Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - VPR From the Start - S2 E11

Episode Date: November 18, 2023

Episode 75. In this episode, Kristen and Luke recap VPR: Season 2, Episode 11 “The Ultimatum.”  Sponsors: Go to Addyi.com and use code DOUTE for a $10 telemedicine appointment New customers get $5 off Lume’s Starter Pack with our exclusive code and link. And for a limited time, returning customers can get $5 off their next purchase of $30 or more, too! Use code DOUTE at LumeDeodorant.com.  Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What up, what up, what up! Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of VPR from the Start Season 2. We're on episode 11, that is part 2, Cabo. In this podcast episode, this episode of Vanderbump, is called the Ultimatum. Luke, the Ultimatum. The Ultimatum. And before I watched this episode,

I didn't think it was going to be Chris in giving the Ultimatum. I did not either. And then when we were watching it, I was like, oh, that was annoying. We'll get to that. Yeah, Chris and I have some definite behind-scenes details to some aspects of this episode. Sure, do, Shorty. Let's give the people what they want.

You guys, I'm not going to like apologize again and again, which I've been doing pretty much every episode for this season because it's pretty horrendous. I'm not going to lie. This one, even Luke, was like, wow, you can call me bat shit, I called myself bat shit, but what did you say? You said something and then you go, what an all fairness, you were on a three day bender. Hi, I said you're a mess. Yeah, you're a mess or I don't know something. Yeah.

It was real messy. Mm-hmm. Who let me drink the shittiest, cheapest, sequela, like just rude? You were a grown ass woman, that was your choice. Maybe that just rude. You were a grown-ass woman. That was your choice. Right, that's fair. You did not have a babysitter. But they didn't offer me nice to Keela. Okay, okay.

All right, let's get into it, guys. So this is Cabo Part 2. Part 2. So we come right back to dinner where episode 10 ended and Katie had just walked out. Stasi is all pissed that she's gonna go back to her room because Katie left and just ruined the vibe of the whole thing and it's not enough

about Stasi right now. Yeah, dude, I'm not gonna lie. I lived it but watching it now compared to 10 years ago, I was like, holy shit, Stasi, calm the fuck down. Like calm, I'm gonna start trying try to stop cursing so much. Just calm down. Like it was really vicious. She's like, Katie, you might as well go bury yourself alive

in the sand on the beach and never talk to me again because you cried at my birthday dinner. Like are we eight years old throwing temper tantrums at the McDonald's ball pit? What's happening right now? And you asked me, Luke. I asked you, if this is hyped up a little for the TV, or if this is Stasi, like, if she's always been this way, you know, pre show, like, very focused her birthday is like a national holiday.

Right. And what I said to you is like, I think this was Young Stasi. She's obviously not like this anymore. Nor has she been for years, but no, it really, it wasn't just the show because she really was screaming at Katie like this. It's not like Katie like new, oh, Stasi's going to fake yell at me right now. Oh no, I know it wasn't scripted. I just meant the whole birthday focus and everything in general. She just kind of was like this when she was younger, for sure.

But yeah, dude, it was really, it was like, I don't even know. You would have thought she killed her dog and like sent like bomb threats to her family or something when she just like cried at the dinner and shorts was the one being super vicious too. And I was mind blown that we put up with that. Because no one put up with me doing anything. And the more I watch it, I was like, I'm kind of like really nice.

Like I'm actually like a really good friend. Obviously there will be choices that I make that will come out later this season, which will completely negate that. But in this current moment, I'm just trying to like make peace. I'm like, you're okay. You have a fair point, Stasi and Katie. Also, I'm sad that you're hurting right now. Like, I see all the sides to this. Lord, I'm mighty any who any who. So yeah, that whole deal anyway, after the whole girls being upset at each other, well, Katie wasn't upset at Stasi at the time.

She was just like crying and continuing to get beat down after her boyfriend just beat her down. Right. Well then Katie ends it with like Katie finally just goes like enough, like you're being cruel, Stasi, like enough. Right. And so, you know, immediately after that, Tom asked Katie to talk. And he goes to this whole apology thing, and, you know, he actually becomes awfully sweet

the way he does it. I was very genuine, but that is exhausting as hell too. You said it would drive you nuts with the flip flop as far as him saying, you make my life miserable and these things too. Which is exactly what Santa Vaughollen I would do as well. So we were all very chaotic. So I'm not like, well, I am. I'm basically like pop calling the kettle black,

but I'm just talking about this particular scene and what I saw after it was like fucking 15 minutes before this. Shorts was like, you make me miserable, like embarrassing Katie at this table. And then they walk away and he's like, I know, I wasn't, he's like, I was horrible last night. What about, or like the other night,

but what about like right now at dinner, like like five minutes ago, what the hell? And then they both are like, I love you, I love you too. And Katie's just like, dude, you make me really sad, like you're not very nice sometimes. And he's like, oh no, I was like, Jesus Christ shorts. Like damn, it's so odd to me, to me that it didn't stick out to me this, this greatly 10 years ago. Because you were so invested in all your friends groups and

your relationships. You wanted them to work out no matter how bad it was at times. And you knew, like you said, your relationship went through those whirlwinds all the same and you still want it yours to work out. So you were just like, well also because mine were by far probably the worst, I was like Tom and Katie are just like meant to be. They're so perfect for each other. Who cares they get in little fights here and there, right?

Right. Yeah, everyone fights. I just felt for Katie like a whole lot because she really wasn't doing really many things wrong right there. Yeah, she's just, yeah, had been getting beat down. I felt for Katie there for sure. Yeah.

Yeah, so Stasi does make it back up to her room, gets in bed, and she's crying, and the girls are all trying to cheer up and get her to go out, and she's like, there's no way we can go out now. Every tall ruin, yada yada, and Shina is actually the one that throws the sheet back and pulls her up. Yeah, Shina's like, bitch, let's go. We're having fun.

So, Stasi gives in and- That was Stasi needing, like, the way I watched it started to wrap you up, but like, it was like Stasi, like, demanding that we all, like, give her, like, the utmost attention in that moment. And she's like, okay, fine. And now, all of a sudden, Holly, Looia, Holly, freaking Looia, we're all happy again.

All happy again. How did we do this for so many years? Oh man. But yeah, so everyone goes down to the pool. And it's the- And we did have fun. Girls and guys segregated again. It happens a lot.

So yeah, the girls are doing their thing. Stasi's topless in the pool. Girls and guys segregated again it happens a lot So yeah, the girls are doing their thing Stasi's topless in the pool and Jack's decides he wants to go check on Stasi And here comes Stasi's whole big plan. She didn't plan it to go exactly like this But opportunity is there presented itself and she was ready to strike. Yeah Jack's comes over. He's like I thought we had some flirting going on. She's like- That was hysterical.

No. Yeah, she just goes, no. He's like, not even a little bit. She's like, no. Like, trying not to laugh at his disappointment in that moment. It was really, it was pretty funny. What's wild to me is that after she said that, she still was able to get Jacks to admit to the rumor.

Mm-hmm. It was after she had shut him down like that. That's the power of the pus, man. I know, but she just basically said, you're never getting this again, and then puts them on the spot. Yeah, but you're saying there's a chance, even though she's like, there's not a chance.

He's like, but you're still troublesome for him to meet and you're actually talking to me. Yeah, he was distracted by the boobs. I've been there. Yeah, see? Like, what would you have done in that situation? If you were still in love with your ex girlfriend and she's like actually giving you the time of day?

Because obviously, as we can see for the last, for all of season one and part of season two that we're in, is that like, Stasi does have this power over Jacks in these moments. It's not something she's trying to do. It's just like this natural power she has. that we're in is that like, Stasi does have this power over Jacks in these moments. It's not something she's trying to do. It's just like this natural power she has. And so, I mean, if I were her and I had been through what she had been through in that

relationship, I would totally use that to my advantage as well. That's fair. And you know, before he even really admits it, he kind of admitted it saying, well, I can't throw it, just throw my friend under the bus. It's like, okay, you just admitted it right there exactly and she goes Oh, so you can half throw him under the bus because you already told me so basically So it's what sassy saying is admit this shit on camera right now right you've already told me in private But now admit it on camera. It's exactly what she was saying because once you do that you can't take it back

And if you do you're gonna look like a moron Oh, man. Everyone's liars and then he does admit it fully by saying well that was something that I said to you like in our relationship privately when we were dating etc. Right yeah let's move forward because yeah Jack's obviously isn't happy with that. The girls then move off and I I think I want to you back in the room, or yeah, back in the room, and they're all talking, Kristen's smoking a cigarette.

And the girls are off. We had to say that to you. Yeah. Just troll me, troll me, troll me, drag me. Yeah, so the girls are talking about this rumor that just got confirmed now. And so, Stasi's like, I have to tell Kristen, but I'm really worried about how it's going to make her spiral and like what that's going to, you know, what's going to happen

in you. It doesn't take her long to walk outside and tell Kristen. And obviously Kristen's distraught and crying and gets a bottle of tequila. Oh God. It was like not even, was I don't what kind of tequila is that when it's like gold It's definitely it's supposed to probably be a repissato, but I think it's just bad tequila. I don't know I don't know, but you are taking shots out of a champagne glass Yeah, and then you see as I progress I start putting orange juice in it. Oh man. Yeah to be young again Classy Dodie classy. So you wanted to make a note about Bill and John here. Oh, that's right. So Bill and John are executive producers.

In this moment, the girls, IRL, as the kids say, in real life, the girls were kind of like, oh, this is getting a little much. I don't remember if they asked the camera to leave or if the camera was just probably naturally left, because what else was there to shoot, but me just pouring tequila into cups and like, downing them. I don't think I was like, so were for one second that trip.

But Bill and John came in and they were like, like, when we were like sitting on the couch and they were like, expressing serious concern about my mental state and my drinking. Which is a fair concern. Are you okay? And you probably said yes when it was really a no. Totally.

Yeah. So, okay, we get to morning and Sheena shows up to the guys room again, no surprise to anyone. She does look so young. I can't get over it. Maybe it's like, she was young, obviously. But it's like, she's very like, almost like teenager-y like, like she was young obviously, but it's like she's very like, almost like teenager-y like her face is so,

I mean she always looks young. Like I said, this is, she is totally like tiny and beautiful and amazing even now, but she just has this like youthfulness about her, the way she dresses and like the side ponytail and it's just like, it's cute. Maybe makes me giggle a bit. I agree. Yeah, she noiggle a bit. I agree.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, Sheena comes in and this is great. She basically says to camera in her interview bites, she was like, Jack said no problem, shoving a grenade up my ass when he wanted to tell everyone about the gang banging comment. So I have no problem shoving a grenade up his ass. Hey, all is fair and love and war, right?

So yeah, Sheena calls Jacks out in front of the rest of the boys about spilling the secret to Stasi, the truth about Tom and Ariana. And you can see in Tom's face, like, Oh, he knows. Clearly he knows it's true. He didn't even deny it.

He didn't deny anything. He was just like, we're not talking with this and Jacks, like, yeah, we're not talking about this anymore. Right. And they both just say, end of conversation, we're never bringing this up again. And it's like, okay, guilty, guilty, guilty. Yeah, this is quite the, quite the episode.

So just why we're only doing one today. Yes, true, true, true. Because it's just a lot to digest. But that was really funny. And everyone's just like so awkward in that moment. And there's really like, no one even like discussed it. No, Jacksonize it though. Jackson really like no one even like discussed it. No, Jack's denies it though. Jack's is like, I didn't say that.

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Go to addy.com and use code Dodie for a $10 telemedicine appointment to find out if Addy is right for you. What would you do in that situation? I'd like to think I wouldn't be in that situation. You think? But... Or if you were like in that room. It's so tough to try to put myself in that dynamic because you guys had such a unique dynamic,

knowing each other for so many years, and you were all coupled up and everyone's friends and I don't know It's it's weird. It's a tough place, but I've definitely learned already in my life that you got to get the truth out You want to live a lie? You're just signing yourself up from misery as long as you want to keep living that lie Yeah, because then you have to lie to cover up that lie and then it's like I feel like it's just lie upon lie upon lie And then you start forgetting which lies you told Or who you told the real truth to and whoosh It's exhausting. You know what movie I watched after you fell asleep last night. What just go with it Talk about stacking lies on lies

I thought it was really funny. That's a really good movie. It's such a good movie Devlin Devlin take it Devlin. You guys haven't seen that you have to to see it, Jennifer Aniston out of Sail Learner, Nicole Kidman, Dave Matthews. It's a yeah, it's a good movie. Very good movie. So moving forward, we get down to the pool and Kristen walks in. Well, this is like the next day, right? Oh no, because we're now the next day. Sorry, Shina. It's just told the boys. Yeah, so we, all of the girls and guys go to the pool. Right. And I'm already drinking a giant mimosa in a cup. Right, which that's kind of Mexico anyway.

Yeah. But I'm gonna use some water. Kristen's clearly just strut hung over whatever it is. Oh, that you said you look, oh no, Tom said I looked hung over in the scene and like you can totally see I'm crying. Right. It yet take a fucking hint bro. So Kristen wants to talk to Jacks, obviously, in the scene and like you can totally see I'm crying. Right. Idiot.

Take a fucking hint bro. So Kristen wants to talk to Jacks. Obviously, Jacks is totally denying it. She doesn't want to be around Tom understandably. Yeah, it's just me going, okay, Jacks, let's call a spade a spade. This is what Stasi said to you. This is what you said. Let's all admit this and just get it out in the open.

And they're like, Jacks, just backpedaling back peddling, and going, I didn't say that. I don't know. Like, I don't know for sure. I don't know. And Sassy's right there. So she's like, Jack's. And then Tom's like, wait, what? And it's just like, okay, clearly we're just going to like let this just keep kicking the

can down the road just keep kicking it. So as after Chris and walks away, you told me that you met up with uh... Well yeah, because she didn't check. Right, so you see in the scene, she didn't check and she walked up holding hands and like hear all the yelling and shouting and they both just kind of like retreat like into the shadows. Like you know that gif of Homer Simpson, like where he retreats into the bushes?

Yes. That's what it reminds you of. It reminds you of Shina and Shay in that moment. They're like, maybe they didn't see us. Turn around, run away. Yeah, so in that moment, Shina and Shay went to like a beach bar restaurant, and they were with our talent producer, Robin at the time, love her. And I was like texting with them, and I

went and sat, put in like head drinks and food with them, strangely enough, after all the drama, it was like, well, yeah, Shina and Shay are the ones like bringing me joy right now, and not dealing with all of this for a minute. For just a minute though, because you come back to the pool. That was really funny.

I was like, I was gone for 20 minutes, and some of you even do what I was, as if I had been gone for like three hours. Or three days. Or three days, yeah, really? Because like, probably you were in your room. Maybe you went for a walk. Like, it was as if I had disappeared and no one was like sending an SOS out.

Like, you know, signal out for me. I'm like, God, you guys, I was gone for 20 minutes and no one even looked for me. You didn't even know where I was. The drums. That's so one even looked for me. You didn't even know where I was. The drums. That's so unrelatable for me. I know.

It's a bit unrelatable even for me right now. It's very odd to watch this back. So you come back to the pool though and call Lisa to tell her that you can't work with Ariana. Yeah, let's talk about this. I definitely had said like, out loud. I remember something like just being like, I can't fucking work with that girl anymore.

Like even in my interview bite, I was like, I want to knock her out, but I'm gonna be classy. Guys, by the way, I've never fought a girl in my life, so I would never knock her out, leave it at that. But yeah, I did say out loud, I was like, I can't work with her. And of course, the producers take that and it's like, well,

you should probably tell her. I think you need to tell her right now. I'm like, I don't want to tell. Wouldn't make it, I'm going to call Lisa. Every time I saw someone on this show called Lisa from like a trip, I'm like, what is happening right now? And honestly, I forgot until we were watching this that I too was that girl. What a joke.

They just wanted to make it seem like Lisa's the mother, We were watching this that I too was that girl. What a joke. They just wanted to make it seem like Lisa's the mother, like the mother hen to all of the... Yeah, the main trick. Yeah. Because it was her aunt is called Vanderpump Rules. But it's just weird a shit. I was never close to her.

The cast was not close to her until filming the show. No one was close to her. Maybe China. I'll lie. China, I'm sure it was. But like, I said, all I, it's making me sense. I won't lie. China was definitely close to her.

Maybe the Ville Blancke people were a little closer to her. But none of the star staff was ever close to Lisa until filming the show. So to be calling like mother hen, I wouldn't even call my own mom from the trip to to be like tom cheated on me. I'm freaking out right now. Right, again. We got.

So I call Lisa though and say, I don't want Ariana working as sir. However, I know I cannot say something like that. Do you or ask something like that? So therefore I don't think I can work there anymore. And the line was, it's either me or her. I did not want to say that line. I'm gonna throw it out there.

That was a production line. And this isn't me blaming them or saying like, oh, they made me, I said it. But to explain to you guys kind of the way reality TV works is like, I don't know, I don't care, wishy washy, kind of sort of maybe. It just doesn't really work. It's not that interesting. So it's like, Kristen, how do you feel?

Well, in that moment, I had not been sober and at least a few days, probably hadn't slept at all. It was like, chain smoking cigarettes was just nothing but toxicity, right? And in that moment, I'm like, I'm going to beat Ariana's ass. I don't want to fucking be it, sir. I've worked there forever. That bitch can go back like, so yeah, in that moment, I felt it's me or her. And they wanted me to say it. So I said it.

I wasn't even on my own phone. You think I have Lisa Vanderpump's like cell phone number, like dialed into my cell phone? No. Interesting. Not that anyway. Yeah, fair enough. So there's the ultimatum. That is the ultimatum. Which clearly does not work out. Only halfway through this episode. Yeah. So next up is the booze cruise that didn't cruise the pirate ship at the boat dock for obviously Stossi's continued birthday. Yes. And I thought, you know, before Jackson them show up, the funniest line was, I think Katie said that Kristen's spirit animal is Dory from Finding Nemo. Yeah.

Because it's like, she can only focus on what's in her field of view. Yeah. So if Tom stays out of her field of view, she can be happy. She's having fun. Yeah. She was like, when Tom's around, like, she's miserable. Yeah. She was like when Tom's around, like she's miserable or something like that, but when Tom's not around, she's happy and partying with tequila.

Perfect. I'll take it. She's not wrong. You know what I was thinking though about that? I remember when they first showed the boat, and I said to you before the captain of the boat said it, I said, oh, yeah, we didn't get to go out that day because of the weather.

And then he explains the water was too rough. But he also says this ship was built in 1885 and I'm like, you sail that boat out in the ocean and it was built in 1885. How do you think they got here in the 1700s? Do I understand that? But nowadays, like it's safe. Well, I'm sure certain they've been. Yes, I'm sure it's going to be silly. To be silly? Yes, I'm certain there have been some. Or is it just like some of the wood is from 1885? I'm certain it's not 100% original.

They've updated some things. But it's just simple little cruises. They're not trying to go across the sea. I know. Just go do a lap out there when it, yeah, I'm sure it's fine. OK. Well, we stay docked. Stay docked.

Which is probably better for all of us too. And here comes Jack's with all every girl he could find at the gym. Yeah, he says like, oh, met these girls at the gym. I'm like, were they all working out together on their girl trip? I think, from my perspective, I think he literally asked every girl that he saw. You want to come on a booze cruise on a pirate ship? He's like, hey, we're filming a TV show. Or that.

You know, we're filming a TV show and got this boat and took all three booze and like free food and like you can be on camera and stuff that's really cool. I bet that's what happened. Maybe. So anyway, he walks up though and clearly these girls are uncomfortable. You can see it in their body language and Everything as they're walking up there like what did we just get dragged into? Yeah, because we were all very loud and Making them not feel comfortable like we were We were pretty loud and like obvious like oh who are these girls who are these bitches like what do they think they're doing getting on our boat?

I would be uncomfortable too. And which we quickly shifted like, you know, cause that was very nice, but it was Jack's fault. And Stasi quickly like shifted that way of thinking where she was like, actually, Jack, you know what? I don't want you on. The girls can actually say, but you have to go. That was hilarious.

Yeah, that's funny. And yeah, it doesn't last long. He turns around and leaves with him. Yeah. Very quickly, he's apologetic and all that stuff. So out goes Jack's and. Let's talk about Peter. Blaspeder's heart.

Always just like the perfect comic relief wearing the pirate outfit. Oh, yes, the pirate outfit. Yeah. He is a pirate. He really is. I mean, he's definitely Johnny Depp, Pirates of the Caribbean. We all know it. And then I wonder how long Stasi's underwear stayed up on that pirate

ship. Oh yeah, that part. That's so funny. That's interesting. What do they do with underwear after that? It grows. It grows. I don't know. Hopefully they don't have any pervy people working on that boat. Yeah. I mean, whatever. If you don't know, I don't know. Well, you don't know, can't hurt you. Exactly. Whatever happened to it, she decided to leave it there for the unknown. Because it sounds fun when you're in your 20s. Sure, I'm not blaming her.

It is fun and it's hilarious. I've got no problem with it. So the non-booz cruise cruise was sort of a success. Well, it's been the bottle now. Oh, yeah. They cut to that little spin the bottle moment. The first time shorts and sand-of-all ever kissed. First time of many. And second.

And second. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. OK, so you're looking around. It's like, she and I share dating. And as we see at the end of this episode, spoiler alert, she and I share getting engaged in the next episode, right? So they're dating, Tom and I are dating. And as we see at the end of this episode, spoiler alert, Sheena and Shae get engaged in the next episode, right? So they're dating, Tom and I are dating,

Tom and Katie are dating. And then we have Peter and Stasi and Christina Kelly, right? Right. All there. Sheena kisses Peter, Tom and Tom kiss, Katie kisses Peter, and then a bunch of girls smooch. How would you feel if you were sitting there You and your girlfriend and your girlfriend kissed one of your friends playing spin the bottle would it bother you?

So I actually had a very similar experience to this, but it was in high school Okay, but I did have a girlfriend and it was a group of guys group of girls kind of thing I think we may have been the only couple there though Well high school is different because during this time, most of us were almost your age right now. Right. Age you are now, we were like, we were like in late 20s to, I think, Jackson at this point would have been like 34

or something like that. Okay. So from what I experienced, I don't know, it was fun. There wasn't no jealousy or anything, but it wasn't just like, the way you guys did it, the little packs or whatever, who gave the shit. Okay, so right now, if you and I were with a bunch of friends, would you would play Spin the Bottle and kiss a random girl or have me kiss one of your friends?

I mean, I wouldn't suggest it. Yeah. I'd be like, we're really doing this, it would be really my question, and I guess it did. I just would do it. Okay, if you wouldn't do it, then I wouldn't suggest it. Yeah. I'd be like we're really doing this would be really my question and I guess it would do it. I just would do it. Okay if you wouldn't do it then I wouldn't do it. That's that's fine. My little teeth to you. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like not about the kiss on the lips type thing because I like I feel like as like the older you got grown adults and stuff. Yeah like you were saying like pecs on the cheek peck on the lips when it's like off close close like best friend or family Friendly, like it's not weird

But it's the fact of like playing a game and or the whole point of the game is to get to kiss someone right so that's why it's like Yeah, that's weird. It's a little that's why I don't think I played spin the bottles in high school Yeah, I mean either just getting Yeah, clearly. I think everyone saw that yeah, but yeah I don't know it's just curious what you thought about. I thought you were going to ask me about the Tom's kissing. I know, how do you feel about the Tom's kissing? I don't think it's a big deal.

Right. Because I'll tell you this. Well, there's a picture, there's a picture of them in Tom Tom, like a ginormous like wall size photo of them kissing. Mm-hmm. It like became their thing. So roommate of mine in college we pecked because at these two hot college girls there that were like we'll make out if you guys kiss. And we're like okay just like literally no hesitation. Peck and then turn and look and it's like your turn. Yeah they made out of course. They were gonna make out anyway if you like this

college you're gonna drinking. Yeah. But no hesitation, I don't think there's anything. I don't know. No, I agree with you. No, weird at all. So the next scene is at Sir, and they're having this conversation about Kristen's ultimatum. Oh, Guillermo and Lisa.

Guillermo and Lisa, yes. Poor Guillermo. Guillermo in real life would have been, he's like, Kristen can't bring the drama to the door and like, what a good actor he was because, and it's because in real life would have been like, he's like, Kristen can't bring the drama to the door and like, what a good actor he was because, and it's because in real life, Geremo would have been like, are you doing okay, sweetie? Do you need a glass of wine?

I hope you're doing okay. That's what really happened. His Geremo has a heart. Oh man, but so then they talk to Ariana and Ariana's like, if I wanted to be back at Villa Blanca, I'd be back at Villa Blanca, which obviously makes sense. And I guess she's been kicking ass there. And based on your track record recently,

with Sir, I wouldn't expect them to keep you over her. Oh, totally. Yeah, you're right. I would not either. Yeah. It doesn't this kind of remind you of like the Stasi Laurel Lee from season one. Not really. Stasi was Lee from season one. Not really.

Stasi was texting Laura Lee and saying, you should quit. No one fucking wants you here. Like she was taking it to her where I was like kind of just talking about it. Right. Stasi didn't get in trouble. Yeah. It was it was deemed cute and cheeky. I was never treated kindly.

Not that I should have given any boss an ultimatum about my personal life. Because if I were that boss, I would be like, you're joking, right? I see the similarities. I hadn't thought about it till now. Yeah. But again, you guys, this is a television show.

That's what it really is. It's a television show. It really had nothing to do with SIR and all of that. Because as we know, I eventually do get fired in real life, and it was literally the best day of my life. Like, it was one of the best days of my life. It's Sir to me was just like dating Tom Sanovall. It was like this terrible toxic relationship

at that point anyway, that like I was never gonna leave, unless they broke up with me. Right, okay. No. We'll get there though. We will get there. Oh geez. So move on at a club somewhere partying.

Squid row, baby squid row. Squid row. And this is where you told me about these head shaking shots. And first of all I've seen it, it was a jello shot. Was it a jello shot? It was a jello shot. They came and gave you and then she shook your head. I just want to look this up, like, shaking your head after shots.

I think it's just a, for show kind of thing. I don't think you're going to have much of an effect, like, right away, especially with a jello shot. Maybe if you just did a shot of, like, tequila, I guess, I don't know. Oh, the tequila head shake. An experience in Tijuana, Mexico. Well, that's not where we were. But this is an urban dictionary.

They throw tequila down your throat while blowing a whistle, and then they shake the man's head vigorously. If it's a female, they pick them up and spin them around. Well, it doesn't say anything about it. So yeah, you're right. I just thought maybe it was like, it got you more drunk, but I feel like if anything, it would just make me puke. Yeah, I wouldn't like it. So yeah, you're right. I just thought maybe it was like, it got you more drunk, but I feel like if anything it would just make me puke. Yeah, I wouldn't like it. But when I Google it, it says, why do I get the urge to shut her and shake my head upon drinking?

I guess when you take a shot of something that's not good, you do kind of like cringe. Yeah, exactly. And kind of shake your head back and forth like, oh, that was awful. But yeah, whatever. Whatever. So Jack shows up with a few of the girls earlier to the party and Stasi acts like she owns a place and vague quickly leave. We were, the thing is like we were all on board with her. We were like, yeah, like he doesn't need to be here. He doesn't need to be bringing these girls just to like, while you up. Sure. Like, yeah, like he doesn't need to be here, he doesn't need to be bringing these girls just to like, while you up. Sure. And then I think we go on to say like,

or maybe it was at Shina or Stasi or someone, so like, isn't it crazy like, when Jackson's in here, we're all having a good time. Yeah. And we actually didn't realize Jackson wasn't there. That's what it was. It was at Christina's like, do we just now realize Jackson's in here?

Like again. Well yeah, because everyone, yeah, like it was said, everyone's having fun in Jackson's in here, so we don't even notice that he's not here. Yes, yes. So he was just trying to like, rile saucy up doing that. Like, oh, you don't want to be with me,

well, this is what it looks like if I'm possibly with someone else. Right, exactly, the whole jealousy game. Yep. Oh, man, so then she and Stasi have their little heart to heart and they're back to being friends. So she can grab. Here we go again. Yeah. Got it. Gas Stasi back. And now we go to the bathroom. Katie's reminding Kristen about Tom and the breakup and this plan and saying like look I want you to be strong. Like don't forget about this. You're having such a good time

right now. I want you to just like go crawling back to them and make all these excuses for him because you just wanna stick it out. Like stick with your guns. This is what's best for you. She's trying to be a good friend. She really was. Oh man.

Always. Yep. Are you ready for this? No boy. So. Oh boy. That's essentially the last scene of the club. Here comes the morning. Where's Kristen? Yeah. Where's Kristen? Obviously when the where's Kristen question

came up, I knew right away. Did she? Yeah, of course. Of course. I mean, I have absolutely had toxic relationships in the past. Okay, but what if Katie had responded, oh, she's in the bathroom puking or did you definitely think? Oh, I thought right away. You were there. Yeah, you're in Tom's bed. Tom looks quite satisfied when they walk in and find you two together And he's like, what what's weird about that? I'd sex with my girlfriend. Yeah They're like, yeah for the first time in how long? Oh geez, oh man. That was so embarrassing. You just, you flip flop so hard here and you're like, it's none of your business.

I know, this is when you were like, like bug-eyed to go in the Christian, what the hell? The hell is going on. Yeah. You were 30 at this time? Mm, yeah. Yeah. Tsk. Thanks, babe. You know, STF you. STF you. Hey, I'm just saying I think

that version of Kristen timings everything in relationships. I don't know her. Okay, she doesn't go here. She can't sit with us. That's one thing we've actually said is that there's probably not another time that you and I would have ended up dating. Too shay. Because cigarettes one are a huge massive turn-off for me. And two, just the level of chaos. I don't know, I just don't think you and I would have dated at that point. I was just as much of a mess.

If you were 30, I was 22. Right. And did not know up from down, you know, didn't, I had some convictions and ambitions, but I was all my fucking rocker too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this was not, this was not my best look.

That's for sure. No, and the girls are justifiably and obviously very pissed at Kristen. Yeah. Because they're like, it's not a fear of business. What do you even care? And they're like, I'm like, it's none of your business. What do you even care? And they're like, seriously? Seriously?

This is definitely a low point for you with your self respect. Yeah, it's, yeah. There's parts that are like understandable. Like, I'm not happy with myself watching this, but like, I've definitely had many of girlfriends just be like, oh God, it's like all I've ever wanted was for him

to finally be kind and sweet and pay attention to me and act like he's gonna turn a new leaf and then they get what they want. But in this situation, watching it obviously from the outside, watching this as a viewer now, I'm like, bitch, Kristen, you really think this is turning a new leaf, he's gonna come home when everything's gonna be great again. You just found out for a fact that he was definitely cheating

on you and he literally was like, we're not discussing this, this is not even a topic of conversation. But I'll totally have sex with you and let you sleep in my bed that we're not even sharing on this trip. There's just every kind of wrong. Well, of course he would.

No, I'm just saying, everything about this whole situation was just so not cool. Yep. You know, on my part is what I mean. So, yeah, I very much understand why Katie and Sassy were like, bitch, we are spent in this moment. Yeah. So yeah, what uh, you have anything else to add to that? I don't have much else to say about that. Uh-oh. No. I don't want to. OK. I'm just going to bury my head in the sand.

Well, we gridded through another one for you. We did. And next week we'll be loud and chaotic once again. How many more damn episodes do we have? I don't know. This is episode 11. I think there's 16. 16?

Okay. So we're coming close to an end. We're getting there. All right. All right, guys, well, let us know if you're watching along with us, if you are remembering along with us once again, if you have any questions, comments or concerns, be kind. You know, I kind of feel like we're putting these out there for people to go back and like find the episodes when they do rewatch.

I don't know how many people are really rewatching with us. And it's more like, oh, I just, you know, watching season two, and they can pull up the podcast and be like, boom, just watch that episode. Let's hear Kristen's take on what was going on there. Yeah. My take is, who let me out of my cage. Oh geez, too much alcohol, too many cigarettes. Yeah, you did say that though, that's what I like. You were just like, dude, you were on a three-day bender, like almost like I don't know what else they expected from you at that

point. That was just such a poor try. I, that was just poor choices all around. I don't even know. I think I would die. I think I would actually die if I drink like that for one day right now. A three day bender, plus all the emotional stuff you're finding out, your emotions were all over the place. I'm not justifying this, but I can see it happening

and it's not that surprising. That ended up happening. So. Messy, messy, messy. So messy. All right, well, we got through it. Here we is. Love you guys so much.

I like to just Google in my uncomfortable state how we get through it. Laughter is the best medicine. And we'll talk to you next week. Sex love, what else matters? And again, on VPR from start, we have about five more episodes to go and we'll be done. Alright, thanks for listening.

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