Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - VPR From the Start - S2 E9 & E10

Episode Date: November 12, 2023

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We are. We're on episodes nine and ten. I apologize for my stuffy nose. I got the, I got like the fake rona. That's what I'm calling it. The fake coronavirus from Vegas, from Robocon. The false rona virus. Yeah, the fake rona is what I'm calling it, the fake coronavirus from Vegas, from Robocon. The false coronavirus. Yeah, the fake coronavirus is what I'm calling it. A lot of people have had the same thing.

It's literally like fast and furious. It made me super stuffed up. I have a little bit of a lingering cough, but it essentially only lasted. Like, what time did it, what day did it hit me? Like Tuesday. So anyway, it just was like a few days long and I lost my sense of smell for one day and then it came right back and a girlfriend texted me and was like, don't you remember before COVID

that we would essentially lose our sense of smell when we were stuffed up and was like, oh, snap. Don't remember that, but good to know. Anyway, so that's what's up. I sound a little sick, Luke's hungover as fuck. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know sick. Luke's hungover as fuck. I'm not as fuck anymore.

Still has some lingering hangover effects. But we're a hot mess, but any who. So, you know, it's, it's okay, because this episode, these episodes will be hot messes as well. That's what you're all here for. So anyway, we are on episode nine of season two, rich people annoy me. Do rich people annoy you? Uh, sometimes. Yeah. Not in the way they do stossy, because people annoy me. Do rich people annoy you? Sometimes. Yeah.

Not in the way they do saucy, because I have it. I never had to do, I don't know, this dinner party is something else. This housewife's dinner party. Yeah, wow. Should we just get to it? Yeah, let's just get to it. So you guys, I'm just gonna give you a little buffer here.

I did not watch this first episode with Luke. I have seen it before. So Luke's gonna lead these and I'm just gonna give my two cents. Chris and two cents. Okay, so this episode opens at Sir with Katie, Stasi, Peter and Jacks and enter Arion and Tom. Together? Did they enter together? Yes, they walked in together. Oh, well, so they were really trying to get the fans to start hating early. Oh yeah, absolutely. I've been to saw it early, early on.

Anyway, Lisa is letting everyone know that she's putting together her A team for this Housewives event at Sur. I have a question real quick. Does she say Housewives? Or does she say like my friends? She said my friends. Oh, OK. But it's the Housewives.

Yeah, exactly. I just wrote where's Kristen? So you weren't there at the time. It's clearly. And so all the talk about all the rumors we've been talking about are just going on. And so Kristen shows up and says she checks Tom's call log and Tom and Ariana have been calling each other.

Shocking. Tom's a bad other. Shocking. Tom's a bad boyfriend, Shocking. I did use to check phones a lot in my day. Did you use to check phones, Luke? Nope. I never. Did girlfriends check your phone that you're aware of?

I had an ex, I guess, booked through my phone before, but. Did you ever get, did she do it behind your back? And then like you guys would get in a fight about it because she was like, yo, I looked through your phone, like all of the interpump rules. No, I never had something like that happen.

Do you know how I would get really good at checking Tom's phone back in the day? Because of course he would change his password from time to time. Sure. So back in the day, we used to do the swipe thing. You know where you like swipe the numbers? Yeah, like the shape.

So I would just look at it under a light, like I would hold the phone flat and look at it under a lamp. And I could see where the oil from his sweat from his gross fingers were. And then I could figure the pattern out. So for how many years now, I do not trust it Tom at this point. Because if you clearly didn't have any trust, they're fathom him.

Like, no, mostly entire relationship. Okay. Just curious. Yeah. You kill me. Any who? Any who. So Jackson, Tom, or behind the bar, and Tom brings up to Jackson that he or Jackson started

the Tom and Ariana rumor. Jack's obviously denying it. Absolutely, I wouldn't say something like that. Of course I wouldn't think of Sheena and yeah, verifies that's where that came from. I believe with Sheena. Yeah, all of that sounds exactly about right. Jack's makes me laugh.

Next scene we get our first glimpse of Good as Gold with Sheena and Studio. Oh my gosh, 10 years ago. 10-year anniversary. It's crazy. It's so wild because when you and I were talking about this, I was hell-bent that Good as Gold was the first single and I was like, damn it, you're right. It was what I like. And then we got the gorgeousness that is good as gold. Shout out to Sheena, you can buy the vinyl

for Fitty Bucks online, the single. And I think it's like, I don't know if it's a gold record. I know the one she gave Andy was a gold record, but pretty freaking cool to have vinyl with your song on it. I'm not gonna lie. It's pretty cool, definitely pretty dope. Oh, man.

So Sheena does go to school. Sheena does go to school. There's not really any context around that for the rest of the episode. But this is during the beginning of Interprompan rules was really like, what do they do, what do they want to do, what do they aspire to be outside of this restaurant. So that's why there's always, it's very chaotic. You know how we talked about before, where it's just like, and now she is in the studio. And now we're back at Sir.

And now Kristen, Katie and Stasi are bitching about something. And now there's like a montage of people busing tables. Like it was very chaotic, but it did really well. Well, back kind of went along with your relationships. The chaos that was. Very chaotic, yeah. Totally.

So Katie, I put KKS in my nose for Katie. Katie got, Katie. Katie, Kristen and Stasi, yeah, if we get to three together a lot. So KKS making plans to get the truth out of Tom and Arianna. Stasi says for birthday and Cabo, she's gonna be really nice to Jacks and really get him drunk and get him feeling himself and then get him to really spill.

That's a good friend. Like that is a really good friend to like butter up her axe boyfriend who she sort of can't stand just to figure out the truth. Right. And so this conversation is happening. I believe at Katie's while Katie's pulling some cards. Oh, that's from Katie Redmond Taro cards. Yes, yep, that's what's going on.

Oh, I remember that. Katie ismond Taro Card. Yes, yep, that's what's going on. Oh, I remember that. Katie is very, very intuitive. I too tried to pull Taro cards one time. I think I tried to repeat her or Peter's brothers at a park one time and I was like, listen, I'll tell you what both things say and then you can just like decide. I'm not as intuitive as Katie is, that's for sure.

So the most messed up part of this, I think it's Dossi calling you out. You said that you don't even know if you would break up with Tom if you caught him. And Dossi said it's really sad. But Dossi said, I will lose all respect for you if you catch him red handed and then still don't leave. And I put this in quotes, because I agree 100%, that trust is gone after cheating.

Like to build it back, you better have kids involved, you better have some other bigger reason to make it work in my opinion. Because the trust is just, it's gone. Like to work it back, it's like walking such a thin line. It's like you're trying to walk on a quarter inch balance beam

that's made of thin ice, it's not gonna work. Totally. And obviously there have been lots of cheating in that relationship. So it was doomed everyone. Now we know. Right. Well, your chaotic toxic relationships made TV. Sure do. Now we're back at Sir and Lisa is going, having people change, every little thing to prep for this event. She specifically says that Kristen and Shina are going to work on the other side of the restaurant to keep the drama away from her friends, which end up being worse drama than anything else

that's going on in the end. You see this episode? Yeah, and you've never seen how so I've so it's like, no, I haven't. Like, she's getting mad at some like 20-something year olds for being dramatic, but then you have like 50 something year olds just acting like total fools. The thing is that they, I don't know where they were all like sitting there and just like saying these mean aggressive words at each other. I don't know it was, it was weird because no one seemed to get that worked up where someone just like would get up and stop out.

Yeah, it's just that through, just kept like taking their turn to take shots at each other. I thought it was really weird. Specifically, Stasi says, these are some vicious words between friends and quotes. Who needs friends when you have housewives? Right, I put a Tom quote down here. He said, you know, if it weren't for the yelling,

I wouldn't be able to tell they were mad at each other because their faces don't move. That's true. Yeah, and I love Botox, don't get me wrong, but like when you literally can't raise your eyebrows or like squint or like move your mouth like, oh, well, I guess when you have a lot of money. And Jackson's line is, he said,

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and then hears that Jack's Tom and Ariana are all bar tending together out back, and she did not know this. So, she walked away heading to confront Tom. Because for sure, Winley says a 10 person dinner party, she definitely needs three bar tunders, 100%. And two servers, five people for nine. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. That's insane. She doesn't try to start shit or anything does she? Nope. She doesn't throw gas in the fire. But, so out in the alley, Tom comes out, you guys yell at each other a whole bunch

and you bring up three years ago in Vegas. And at this point, I feel like, at least what they aired, what you were saying, kind of didn't have enough context with Tom. Like, you were talking about all the stuff with everyone else and not with him. You heard about it, so I kind of felt for Tom and being confused.

And he was like, I have no idea. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. He did know what I was talking about though. Maybe he did, but no idea. I don't know what you're talking about. I, yeah, I don't know who told you. He did know what I was talking about though. Maybe he did, but he saw. He absolutely knew what I was talking about because when it happened,

so this is true then? When he was in Vegas and he and Ariana happened to be in Vegas at the same time. Many moons prior to this. The reason that I knew was because either she and I were randomly Facebook friends or I was friends with someone she was Facebook friends with, but I had like gone to her Facebook page because I think we didn't even have Instagram yet. And she was in Vegas. And I'm like, what the fuck? She's in Vegas,

Tom's in Vegas. Tom didn't tell me about this. Well, that's interesting. And then when he had come home from Vegas, he had deleted all, like, text and calls with her. Like, she didn't, like, exist in his text messages. So I was like, well, I know you guys were texting, so why did you just delete, like, her entire thread? Yeah, let's sketchy. Yeah. Very, very sketchy.

So he didn't know. That's just the way it boys lie. Right. They play dumb and they go, well, I don't even know. I'm so confused. What do you mean? What if I'm so lost right now? That's just the way it boys lie. They play dumb and they go, well, I don't even know. I'm so confused. What do you mean? What if I'm so lost right now?

I think we've seen him do this on other seasons of Interpop rules when Ariana was his girlfriend. You know? I agree. I just, from a viewer standpoint on this, at this point, it looks like it would be confusing to him because you were talking to all the girls and not to him about this and then you bring it up out of nowhere. Like, it's the first time you heard it, which it could have looked, it looked like it could have been.

The way that it was edited, the way it was edited appeared that it could have been the first time. That's so interesting actually, because I guess I would think that people would know because we lived together and had been dating at that point for like over five years, that it would just be like, well, yeah, duh. Of course they've talked about this. But I see what you're saying because it essentially did not exist on the show. Right. From what you've seen. No, that's really interesting. I mean, yeah, I don't know. It's hard to keep up with where you two are. Or anyway, the at Lisa comes outside to kind of like, so Tom goes back into work, Lisa comes outside to talk to Kristen. And Kristen says Lisa actually talked to her like a woman for once instead of being like really hard on her.

It's nice. Yeah. I think it was because she saw all the chaos and how childish all of her friends were being. And it was just like, comes out and is like, it's be awfully hypocritical for me to scold her right now. I agree with you. Yeah. I agree with you. I agree with you.

Thanks, babe. Yeah, that kind of settles. Kristen doesn't leave even though Lisa tells her to go home. And then, I'm like, no, I will die. I will die on this mountain. You must have stayed in that alley. You must have stayed in that alley. Oh, man. So embarrassing dying that alley. Oh man.

So embarrassing and awesome at the same time. So anyway, Kristen, Stasi, and Katie are sitting in the alley. Ariana and Shina come out to have their little conversation. Oh, this scene, I do remember this scene like it was yesterday. Shina's fucking glasses. Yes. I hated those glasses. Like Shina, you're a beautiful girl, but I hated those fucking glasses. I hated those glasses. Like, Sheena, you're a beautiful girl,

but I hated those fucking glasses so much. Oh, man. Ariana says nothing happened in Vegas, basically. And Sheena just won't stop bringing up the Jack's rumor. It's like, Sheena just won't acknowledge anything that the conversation is going on. She's like, I heard you slept with Jacks. I heard you slept with Jacks and you're like,

shut the fuck up. And then I asked you, shut the fuck up. And it's like, no, you can shut the fuck up. And it's like, no, you slap with jacks, I heard you slap with jacks and you're like, shut the fuck up. And then ask you, shut the fuck up. And it's like, no, you can shut the fuck up. And it's like, no, you can shut the fuck up. And then it was like, just this teenagers. Coral him of shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up. No, you can shut the fuck up. Oh my god. Oh, how did people watch our show? We are annoying. I love you guys.

Hey, it was entertaining. So that one wraps up and you catch a glimpse of the next episode. When you're missing one of the best lines, and she's like, Katie's like, you need to keep your nose out of other people's business. And she knows like, my nose is fine right where it is. Thank you. I don't remember. I do so well. And I have not watched that episode in 10 years. But that's what I do remember also the Ariana and I actually were like, I was trying to like, converse with her and it was like, my friends were backing me up and Sheena wouldn't shut up and so, like Ariana and I, like, I'm sure Ariana did not want to have that conversation with me regardless.

But I was really trying to like, not yell at her and just be like, dude, just tell me, you know, like I'm a cool girl too. Just tell me it's not your fault. It's not my fault. Like, yeah, you know, oh geez. He's the cheater, not you. You didn't owe me anything. We weren't even friends. It didn't work. Not at all. I tried. Yeah. Anything else you want to add for that episode? I don't think so. I'm going to wrap it up and go to Stasi's birthday trip. I think only thing is I'm sure that I felt fairly relieved that the heat was off of me

and that people were focusing on the other rumor. I'm sure during that time that I felt relieved. Yeah, that could be. Hey, well Cabo here we come. Yes, season two episode 10, sir of the border. What a terrible name for that, so sorry to hate on it. Well, ser mean, ser mean south. I know.

Oh, okay, still, yeah. You're like even so, it's still not good. Still not good. like even so, it's still not good. It's still not good. Oh well, you know. This episode opens with Stasi and Christina Kelly shopping and talking about how Jack's wasn't invited and he's still going and always seems to show up

at Stasi's birthday parties when he's not invited and also that she was regretting having invited China because yes, things were better at the time when they started planning it than they are now. Yeah, and it's tough to like yank that invite back unless it is like an ex or just someone's like, really done you dirty. It's like, how do you just feel like?

I don't really want you to come anymore. It's kind of fucked up. So you just kind of deal with it. Like here's our group trip. Hopefully she'll just go do her own thing, you know. I mean, it was pretty much said explicitly by Stasi. Like, why don't you just get your ticket refunded? Oh, did she say that?

Maybe it was in an interview, but she said, why can't you just get your ticket refunded? Why do you have to come? Well, I'll tell you guys why because production told us she wouldn't get a game bank by every guy. Oh, yeah, let's talk about that. Oh, Shush, Luke, you had like a visceral reaction to that. So we fly to Cabo. And once we get to Cabo, we have two sprinter bands. And we whoever decides it's going to be guys and girls, which is essentially how our rooms were, which is so strange because I didn't actually remember that until we were watching the episode.

I was like, oh, we did have like a girl suite in a boy suite, even though Katie and I were in relationships. We were just fuck. Yeah, strange. Super strange. And I am guessing Shina and Shemus have had their own room. Yeah, they had their own. Yeah, that which makes sense. But, yeah, so when we did the Sprinter Van thing,

and we obviously didn't know until later in the episode, you have Jax come to the girls suite and tell us what Shina says. But really, you know what the fucked up part is? We don't really, really know until we would get to watch the episode back. Right. Exactly how it said. Because Jax is the one relaying the message. Yeah, so it's like.

And that have been spun. Yeah, exactly. Or like, did you, yeah, like, meaning, I don't know one other context you can talk about getting gang banged, but it could have been like, did Jack say it first or did one of the guys say something? And then Shina was like, I mean, I guess, or something like that.

But no, you have little Shina, little time Shina in a Sprinter van with all dudes going, I'd rather get ganged. Her idea, I have she little Sheena, little time Sheena in a sprinter van with all dudes going, I'd rather get gang, her idea, I'd rather get gang banged by all of you, be in the van with the girls. Yeah, with her boyfriend, Jay right next door. My immediate response was what the fuck did she just say? Like, poor Shay. What would you do? I mean, I would never, but like, what would you do if I was? I would have said that to you. The fuck did you just say?

You would have. I would have said it that. Yeah, I would be like, what just came out of your mouth? Go put some soap in your mouth. The weird thing though, I don't know, seemed like Peter and basically all the guys, but Shay, we're like, big guy, and all Joe loved the Joe thing about.

Yeah, Peter was like really well-shaking in it. I mean, Schwartz said something about it too. Like, all the guys made gang-bang comments afterward. Like, all right. Which is really fucking weird. Yeah, I think Shay was like, I think I should just leave. Yeah, like if they're not gonna respect

like their girlfriends, even bigger than that, not respecting Shay in that moment. That was really wild, and your reaction was fucking hysterical. So you were like, what the fuck did, what? I was like, dude. I can't imagine being Shay in that position. That was, yeah, quite wild. Quite a doozy.

All right, so yeah, girls' car, obviously they're just talking shit about Shina, the whole ride to the hotel. Did I talk shit about Shina? I don't think, I wasn't like a big Shina and shit or talk or. They didn't show much, but it's all pretty much what people,

we, the conversation that they showed. Yeah, I was just curious, because I feel like I was a little bit nicer than everybody else back in the day. Anyway, I thought it was just super weird that the girls are all staying in one suite and the guys in another, that's like, I said to you too,

I said just so you know, if we go on some trip with a bunch of other couples, that shouldn't happen. I'm not sleeping in a room with a bunch of guys. I'm sleeping in a room with you. That's how that's gonna go. I'm supposed to know why we did that. It's so funny.

It's weird. I mean, I guess, I don't know. It feels like high school spring break. Like is there a shop room, girls in this room guys in that room? Yeah, oh my goodness. We just didn't really like our people very much I guess clearly none of those couples are together anymore True story. Yeah, story. Was it you live you live you love and you learn you know what I mean? Oh, yeah Exactly. So Lisa upgraded Stasi sweet for this this. And she made a comment saying,

well, Shina got a dress. So Stasi gets her suite upgraded. And I don't know what. Oh, the dress you were confused. You remember in season one, when Shina and Pandora went dress shopping. Oh, for their double birthday. Yes, they do, they literally have the same birthday.

Right. So yeah, that's what Lisa was referring to. Also, I just want to take a moment, you guys I'm sorry this is a little messy, but I would like to take a moment speaking of Pandora, a little break to touch on, Lisa Vanderpump decided to comment about my podcast. Thank you so much.

And was this a bravo con that you saw this? I read it, I believe someone asked her, I believe she was asked. I don't think she offered this information. I don't think Lisa was like, well, listening to my podcast and couldn't wait to give her opinion. But what Lisa said was that, in fact, I was very wrong and that Pandora, in fact,

was more than likely faking. I don't know if she said faking, but like, putting on the American accent. So first and foremost, I'm not everyone, I'm not being like a CUNX Tuesday about this. I don't think Pandora is like some fake person, whatever, all I was saying was in my friendship with her, as long as I had known Pandora,

which was even before I dated Tom Sandwell. She never had a British accent, except when we were at work, when Pandora briefly worked at Sir, and when she would film or like was with her parents. That was the only time I would hear this British accent come out. So, yes, do I absolutely believe that when she started going to college in Los Angeles, that she probably worked more on her American accent,

and that's probably the truth? Why not? Of course, sure. I'm not calling her like a fucking asshole, so I don't know why this turned into this like, Kristen's wrong, she doesn't know anything. I mean, I had people online be like, I've known Panty for her whole life and I went to school with her in England and I'm like, okay, you're probably fucking right.

I don't know, I met her in 2007. I think it's because you said her, it sounds fake. It's a, like her British accent, that sounds fake. No, I said, I thought she was faking it because she would turn it on and turn it off. Right. So I thought she was only doing the British accent to appease her parents or appease like the cameras or something of that nature.

I know where she went to school. I'm very aware of all of that. I just thought she was putting the British accent on, but she no longer had the British accent. That's all I thought. That was my experience with her. I'm not calling her anything wrong and Lisa, it's your daughter. You know, you don't have to get your panties in a twist about it.

It's all good. And you're probably right. Actually, I'll just say it. You are right. There you go. Rock and roll. Pandora has a beautiful speaking voice no matter what accent she speaks in. I hope she got a lot of people to listen to my podcast.

So Lisa, thank you so much for the shout out. Oh man. All right, go ahead, Luke. Anyway, so Stasi's quoted saying, some things wrong with you if you can't get along with a group of women. Group of Shina. Yes, and I agree with that.

And when I heard her say that, I was like, I could not agree more. I disagree. Okay, and so let's talk about why. Certain groups women are so fucking toxic that it'd be like, I don't know. Certain groups of men are so fucking toxic. Agreed, sure, absolutely.

But what I'm saying, but just a statement, blank statement like that is like, I can't disagree with that. Well, it's because you know what it is, she's making a generalization of girls of women that say, oh, I'm not agree with that. Well, it's because you know what it is, she's making a generalization of girls of women that say, oh, I'm not a girls girl. I get along with the guys better. I like hanging out with just guys

because guys, I'm like cool like that. It's those kind of women. Okay, well those, and I think stereotypically. stereotypically is what we're talking about. I mean, we're definitely making generalizations here. Well, stereotypically, I think those women are also the ones that kind of like need to be the prettiest one in the group. Yeah, they need attention.

Yeah. We're attention seekers. But I do agree with even that blanket statement. If you cannot be friends with other women, I do think there's something wrong. And obviously, as we know Shina now, she has plenty of female friends. Right. But the generalization in that moment of being like, I don't want to be around girls, I want to be the guys and be one of the guys and then saying, oh, like, I'd rather be the gang bang with all of you. And then the guys are like, oh my gosh, she's so funny. And then they're all

picturing what it would be like to fuck Shina.. Hello, there dudes. So it kind of all made perfect sense in that moment. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Boom. Do you remember the bar club with a pink kitty? Yes, because I remember the really cute blue and blue dress that I wore. And I loved that dress and it was so cheap. And I wore it until like the seams were falling apart. Nice. You did meant common on that frequently. Every time you were in a...

I love that dress. I love that dress. I was so down. I do remember that night very well when shorts through the drink on Katie. How could you forget? Oh, yeah. Do we want to go there, Luke?

Do we want to get the people what they want? Right to it, or we can talk about what set that up. I mean, we haven't talked about when we were there, and you specifically saying you don't want Shina drinking from your bottle. That's so fucking mean. Yeah. And Tom.

I was like, do you want me to go get a security guard? Because they, well, I'm such an asshole. And so what initiated, I think I was. What initiated the fight with Schwartz and Katie was that Schwartz handed a shot to Sheena when they guys were doing like a happy birthday shot, toast kind of thing. And we were being mean girls and we were like,

Sheena doesn't get to have one, just we get to have one. And this is, I believe, is the birth of T'Kila Katie and Crazy Kristen. Sheena says those two lines as things. You're right. She said them in this episode too. Did Sheena name us?

I think she did. I'm gonna have to ask Shina if she is the one who named us that because wow, I haven't really thought back about like when those nicknames came about. Now we know. This is a pretty big couple episodes really. Yeah.

Season two episode nine, where good as gold is premiered, is brought to the surface in episode 10 with crazy christened to Keelikati being coined. Yeah. So anyway, Schwartz really messes up pouring this drink on Katie. Yeah, that wouldn't fly.

I don't think that's really any woman. I don't think anyone's gonna be okay with their boyfriend or significant other doing that to them. No, I will say I've never, never had, never had a significant other than I cared about as I've never done anything like that before. Okay. What about you? No, definitely.

No one's ever tried, I mean I would say you've never had, right? No, I one's ever tried. Have you have I mean I would say you've never have right? No, I have it. No, you know, I don't know. It's hard to say in college. There's a lot of blurry nights So I'm so might have tried to pour a drink on me, but not like a girl. You were dating like your girl. No, no No, no, no, no, no, someone random. So you guys I have a secret to tell you. Okay, so me So the scene with Tom and Katie and the drink throwing really fucking happened as you can see However, the exact moment were shorts literally dumped the drink that just that one quick moment was missed by cameras and One of our amazing DPs our director of photography had set the camera down for like one second

or like moved it from their shoulder for like one second and just missed that little moment, which was fucking insane, right? And we all obviously felt so bad for the camera person because it's like we love our crew. Like what are the chances, right? Like for one second, split second. So the very next day, the very next night,

Tom and Katie had to go back to the same club and redo that one tiny part. But everything you see leading up to it as well as all of us being there and consoling Katie and all of that, that's all real and real time because we did not go with Tom and Katie back to that bar to shoot that scene.

I think they did a good job. They did amazing. So I just feel like it's like one of those things. It was 10 years ago and I just really wanted to say it. But I don't want the fans or like the viewers to think that by any means any of this was fake. It was just that one split second. But it's like how do you, how do you air all of that that happened in reality if you don't have what, you know, the thing that happened in reality, if you don't have the thing that happened. So fucking shout out to Katie Maloney,

hands down, hats off, I bow down, to go back sober and say, I will take one for the team because I love my crew and I love my show. And I will know, sober let my significant other dump a beer on me. I will continue to be pissed off about it. Yeah. That part of she didn't have to act.

No, I mean, and then had to like go change again and then meet us at the real bar we were at the next night. Right. Right. So I mean, that is called a fucking team player. Okay. So this, when you go back to the room and go skinny dipping and all this other stuff happens, like not that not that much stuff, but that all happened before she went back to reshoot that drink.

No. You said you had to go back the next day. Right. That night you guys went skinny dipping. You went back to the room after... Right, right, I'm talking about the very next night when we go to another bar. Is when you reshotted. Is when Katie reshotted, correct.

Got you, okay. So we haven't gotten that far, I don't think, on this episode yet to the the next night at a bar a different bar We wanted there is no next night at a bar right because this is this episode is a two-part episode I mean a two part cargo is a two part. Yes, I'm with you so anyway Anyway, I just had to say that okay moving on. Oh, anyway, yeah, girls go back to the room and Stasi's like, well, we have to go skinny dipping. It's my birthday and girls go down to the beach and go skinny dipping and it lasts about two seconds.

It looks like, cause the water's cold and- And by skinny dipping, I think Stasi was the only one that actually went skinny dipping. We all kept our bottoms on. Yeah, well, looks like fun. Until I mean the next day too, during the day, you guys got the boat and went over to the beach. What was that lover's island and divorce island?

No, lovers and divorce beach. Anyone that's been to Cabo out there at the point where they've got the arch, you can't see it on the other side. But there's rocks all around and there's this beach that hits the bay marine aside. I believe that's considered divorce beach. And then lovers beach is on the other side. Now I may have those swapped, but cool place to check out if you ever go to Cabo.

The girls, yeah, I'm doing their thing. And Peter gets to judge this wet t-shirt contest. And we get introduced to the Skank hierarchy. The Skank hierarchy. Is this the kind of shit we can't say anymore, but this gang hierarchy according to Stas, according to young little Stasya is hookers, strippers, and now what T-shirt people, I think is what she said, what T-shirt contest people. But I agree. I've seen a what T-shirt contest here and there, but

never like what I saw in Cabo. And Peter was loving every second of every lap dance. He got flashed. He had boobies in his face. Like, Peter was getting it. Oh, yeah. You know, I've never actually seen a wet t-shirt contest. Really? Yeah. Out of all the skinks that you hung out with in college? Wow. Oh, and they weren't that many. Interesting.

Well, Peter saw plenty of them in Cabo. And this is now the second lap dance that Peter has gotten in season two. Wow, good for him. That's pretty funny. And also at this bar, I remember, we, a bunch of us bought like these glass guns that you put tequila in,

and then they would like you would do a shooter, and they would put a sombrero on your head, and then they'd shake your head around. Is that at least supposed to get you more drunk really fast or something by shaking your head? I don't know, it doesn't sound enjoyable. No, it wasn't. Yeah, no, that doesn't sound fun.

They're all drinking just like the cheapest, grossest, like warmest, most golden tequila. Babe, I'm hungover in my room. Stop, please. Oh, cobble, cobble, cobble. Oh, I skipped over. So the guys in the morning before you guys went on the boat and beach trip.

Yes. The scene in the guys room is the Tom's kind of laying in bed. Yeah, weird. Is it weird? Or is that normal for them? No, it's very normal for them, but I always just found it a little odd. Yeah, weird. Is it weird or is that normal for them? No, it's very normal for them But I always just found it a little odd They're they're tight. Yeah, do you cuddle with any of your besties? No, right

I mean how much do I cuddle with you? Sometimes you cuddle with me. Just not when we're like going to sleep exactly to wake up with your boys. No, right I rest my case. No spoon in the dudes. Yeah, I'm sure maybe if Tom and Tom spoon their girlfriends more they would have more successful relationships. I love you shorts. I'm sorry, but I said what I said now we go to dinner. Stasi's birthday dinner and the very first thing at this birthday dinner is jacks pulls out a present he got for stasi. He did a good job. A sweet guy. He got the tattoo and now we got her some like designer pajamas it looks like. Yeah he had her some shorts. Like a pair of like cute shorts and then some pajamas. Okay. He did a good job. Yeah. If she was yeah she was like okay like it's not like a

let's just say skank again. It's not like a skinky present. It's not like some crappy, like some crappy, you just, you know, get. It's like, he put some thought into it, you know, put it back on that little that pedestal of respect. So, boys, if you want some respect, buy some fashion. Jack's is really working it too because that paint kitty, obviously, he's like talking to girls and you see a saucy noticing that he's, you know, he's being single. Yeah. And he's definitely a fine line between like trying to make someone jealous so they like

want to be with you and pushing it to a limit, which you'll see on next week's episode. Okay. It doesn't surprise me. Yeah. So anyway, after the present, the whole discussion of the drink fiasco happens at the table and Katie is just breaking down crying and has to leave the table.

Yeah, and I watched this scene very, very differently than I did 10 years ago. Because we were just like, God, Katie, enough. I was even backing Stasi on that. Just not again. Don't ruin the birthday again. Katie, can you just keep it together? And I was very much on that bandwagon,

but rewatching that scene a decade later and hearing the shit that Tom Schwartz was saying to her, like, yeah, they were both fighting with harsh words, both of them, they're both equally guilty in that moment. But Schwartz said to Katie, you give me anxiety, you act like a moron. Then he says, did you graduate from seventh grade and then tells her, she was like,

well, you never listen to me or or something like that. And he was like, yeah, he's like, so I don't like, I was something about her voicing it or I don't like what you sound like. And you make my life miserable. Like, dude, that's fucking hurtful. Like, and a scene like that kind of I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the context behind him getting that upset. But like he is, they're both very, Tom and Katie equally have like a fantastic vocabulary. They're both very sharp-tongued, right? Very quick. They both kind of can go for the jugular like what we're watching on Manor Pumphourls in their relationship at this time. But I don't know man like in moment, she's literally just going like, number one, shorts, you just fucking threw a drink on her.

So you are in the goddamn doghouse and you should be groveling and apologizing. Let her be sad, let her be upset. Now granted, is he a little annoyed because when there's alcohol in the mix, we all tend to act like more dramatic. The sad turns to anger. Yes, there's so many wrong parts about all of us

during this time of our life, fair enough, right? Mostly alcohol. But that being said, shorts was 31, probably 31-32 at this time. And he's not allowing her to be sad. And he's not even, he should be saying, I'm fucking sorry, you're right, I messed up. I can't believe what I did last say. Now does he deserve to be taking like verbal abuse?

No, neither of them do. But you're in the doghouse, deal with it a little bit. And to say those things, I don't know man, that just hurt my soul. And I love Tom and Katie both separately, but we're talking about what we're talking about. And that just kind of pissed me off. And while Stasi and I were telling Katie to stop it,

we really should have been telling Tom to stop it. But you live in your learn. You live in your learn. So there it is. In all of its glory. Yeah. So that episode is. The messiest fucking season of of its glory. Yeah, it's that episode.

The messiest fucking season of Vanderbilt Falls. Yeah, wraps up with the dinner and next week we'll have episode 11 for you. Yep, and it'll be the second part of Cabo. And yeah, there's a lot more, a bigger shit show to come, because I do remember it very well. Oh, yay. Well, I appreciate and love all of you for hanging in there with us while we have hungover boy

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