Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - We’re Giving You Lala

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

Episode 36. This week, Kristen and Luke are joined by Lala Kent to talk about The Randall Scandal documentary. Thank you to our sponsor, Hungryroot.   Go to Hungryroot.com/KRISTEN, to get 30% off y...our first delivery and get your free veggies. Thank you to our sponsor, Manscaped.   Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DOUTE at manscaped.com.  Thank you to our sponsor, BetterHelp.  Visit BetterHelp.com/DOUTE today to get 10% off your first month. Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: sexlovepodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello my little magical angels welcome back to another episode of sex love and what else matters and today Lucas here with me and we have Lala. Okay, we can't. What up? Welcome Lala. I'm excited to be here this time. I miss you. Me too. The last time you, I think you went back home for a little bit. Yeah, I've been going for a lot. And your dog got sick. Oh.
Starting point is 00:00:33 For Jack Dyle's shitting everywhere. Oh, that's why I was gone. While you were gone. Yeah, Kristen told me about that. It's been a minute. What's the dog's name again? Jill. How is Jill?
Starting point is 00:00:42 She's great. She's in Colorado right now, loving the ranch life. She's not in an apartment. Who doesn't love the ranch life? I know. He's like, she just really likes roaming free and not being in a, you know, an apartment in Los Angeles. I was like, I get it. Totally relate. 100%. And Jill's a big bitch. Oh, yeah. She's a huge bitch. She's got a body dunk. She's a body AF. 80 pound German Shepherd. Damn, baby got back. She got booty on her. I love you, Laura. I love you. I'm number one really excited that you have this house in Palm Springs that you've had.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's not like you just got it five minutes ago, but like, you know, kind of though. It's been a minute, like a couple months. But I love that you have like while you're not filming Vanderpump rules, you get to like, just escape and be with your baby, and be with your mom, be with your brother. It does feel great.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And I know I kind of did it backwards, like I got the vacation home before I got the home home. But I always knew like, no matter where I end up in Southern California, I want a place in Palm Springs because people in Southern California know they always say, the moment you see the windmills,
Starting point is 00:01:50 it's almost like you can breathe. And that's literally, I feel like the elephant comes off of my chest. I am obsessed. It's the best decision I ever made. And I don't think you did it backwards because as someone who did buy a home in proper Los Angeles and now sold said home, I'm like, you did it backwards because as someone who did buy a home in proper Los Angeles and
Starting point is 00:02:05 now sold said home, I'm like, okay, I really wish I would have bought one in Palm Springs as well. I wish I would have done that. Well you are more than welcome to come to my place anytime. I mean, don't say that. And like, yeah, I'm gonna see you. No, I'm saying it for real. We're gonna have our bags already packed.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, you're like, wait, we're leaving with you. Yeah, I'm 630. We're in the back seat. Especially when, well, no offense when Luke's gone. I'm like, okay, we're leaving with you. Yeah, I'm 630. You're room in the back seat. Especially when, well, no offense, when Luke's gone, I'm like, okay, be right there. Dropping up, nothing to train her. Yes, and it's so nice. You know, like Ellie's been so ugly.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And when you get down there, it's like me and my babe just out by the pool. And we don't leave the house. So we're like such grubs. Is Easton your brother living here now, fully? Yeah, he lives here. Oh my god, I love that so much. I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You have to meet him, Luke. I did meet him one time at Jackson Britonese. That's right. Briefly. We did my good chance of being here. Yeah, very quickly. We'll make it happen. Cool.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah. You just chill, easy. Yeah. He seemed like it on the documentary. Like, he just has a vibe about him that I think I can relate to. Yeah, that was hard for him. Yes, the documentary, if you're living under a rock as we know, is the Randall. I don't say that name, it's so hard. It's relate to. Yeah, that was hard for him. Yes, the documentary, if you're living under a rock, as we know, is the Randall, I don't say that name, it's so hard to.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's a Randall scandal. Yeah. The fact that they use the word scandal, and it's like the scandal ball, and I can't ever be friends or anything with anyone that could possibly have their name rhyme with or like, illiterate with the word scandal. Right, I mean, I obviously knew that they were making this.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And I told my mom and Eastern, I'm like, if you guys want to be a part of it, go for it. If you don't want anything to do with it, then don't do it. I really left it up to them. And Eastern was really like adamant that he share his story. And literally, and I kid you not, it was like, I wanna say every 10 to 15 minutes he had to get up and throw up.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And I pulled him aside, because I was there, and said, do you, do you not wanna do it? And he was like, has nothing to do with that. I was like, is it the cameras? Like, how can I make you feel comfortable? Do you wanna dip out? And he was like, no, it's that just talking about him is making me physically sick.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I mean, I fucking believe it. He's your little brother, your big protector. You know what I mean? Yeah, and my family, I call us a pot of orcas. Like we're together till death. We don't grow up, get married and like leave the fam. We are like, we bring more members in. And so he took it pretty harshly and knows every single detail.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And so it hit him hard. It hit my whole family, my mother, my brother, brothers, my heart. Yeah. I mean, I'll say as your friend, and then I'll just, because clearly I was not like on the dock you, I was very aware that this was happening. But as your friend, and then also just as a viewer, I felt like having your mom and Eastern on there was like so crucial, so important for the people that randomly turn on ABC, randomly have Hulu on whatever and it's like popping up, right?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Right. And of course they know about the interprone rules. They know your name, right? But they maybe they don't know the situation. If they don't aren't in our world, I feel like humanizing you to that point was like so, so fucking important for the people that don't know you. Right. And if you don't know all of what the hell is wrong with, you're probably, you feel it's in my podcast, you know, or, but truly, I felt that way because you can only speak so much on behalf of yourself. So I think having Heather on there as someone who was a part of both of your lives and also
Starting point is 00:05:30 like someone who is in the entertainment industry in general. But really having your mom and Eastern on there as much as I hated seeing them get emotional, it wrecked me. But it was just I think so important, like, this is really coming from a severely personal place. And this isn't about you trying to, like, fuck Randall's life up. It's like, this is about your daughter, your life, your home. You said it multiple times within this Randall scandal fucking documentary. You said, if I did not have ocean, like, it was still gonna be shitty. Fine, but you just would have walked away even your mom says
Starting point is 00:06:05 I remember your mom saying she would walk away unscathed. Yeah, I mean I Well, I consider myself one of the lucky ones. I've had many people come to me and share their stories about him And again, I've said this multiple times their stories are not mine to tell When they are ready if they feel that it would bring them peace I encourage them and I want them to know that like, I am here for you. You've got an army of people that are here to support you. I am here for you if you are out there and you want to because at the very, very end, sorry, I'm not sure, with the very, Amy Kaufman, one of the writers for LA Times, like she says at the very end, like, we're not done with
Starting point is 00:06:44 this. Right. Like, that's the documentary ends with, this is not the ending. This is a little closing of this part of the chapter and the new chapters about to begin. Absolutely. And I, and I just gave me chills because I fully agree with it that we have just scratched the surface. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I'm glad that Eastern and my mom did it because at the end of the day, when people try to insult me, they think it's an insult calling me Lauren from Utah. But at the end of the day, I'm Lauren from Utah. I came out to Los Angeles, fish out of water. I didn't know that people were hooking up with movie producers to get parts. I didn't know that this is how Hollywood worked.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And I could see Lisa on the reunion when I say that and she's looking at me like, come on. And it's like, I'm from Salt Lake City. I don't know if any of you have been there. I like so much older than you and I'm from Michigan. And when I moved here, I never in my my life times, would I think that that's what happens? Right. When I first moved here, I was like, going to night clubs only. I was doing bottle service only. I was cool. I was meeting rich and famous people. I thought I was the fucking tits until I had to humble myself. Because my friends, the very few friends I had, and I'm talking like a month living here. And my friend Rachel O'Brien, she was like,
Starting point is 00:08:08 who the fuck are you right now? Like yes, this is fun, we're young, we're 20, I was 24 years old. This is fun, but like where's my bonfire, like guitar playing best friend from the Midwest, like I literally don't fucking know you right now. But even that girl, that Kristen at 24, never did I think I would be expected to or
Starting point is 00:08:29 like would have to sleep my way to the top or that men producers or higher ups would actually like consider that something I would have to do. Absolutely. No fucking idea of. No, it's foreign territory. Like you said, you're from Michigan, I come from Utah. It's just like people move differently out there.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It's real life. It's people are working nine to five. They're excited for a Saturday to like crack open a beer and have a backyard barbecue. Like it's very normal. So when I came out here, I also really heavily, I was in my alcoholism for sure. And I think it got, I'm not saying I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:09:06 have been an alcoholic had I not met Randall because that's, you know, not when you're saying when you moved here or you're not. When I moved here I was having a good time. Right. When I met my ex, it was like I was drinking heavily. Like as I was partying. I was privy to all of his parties. Yeah, no, he was definitely the same way.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And I also think my gut was speaking to me and I was trying to shut her out, shut the gut down, going, you're everything's good. I think you're too hard on yourself. Yeah, I do. I think that anybody in your situation with the opportunity that was put right in front of you would have gone with it.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And especially the way they portrayed it, it's like everything was good at the start, right? Everything was really great. And I was with him longer sober than I was in my drinking. You know, I was two years of drinking and then we were together for another three and a half years of my sobriety. And obviously, if someone gave me the option, go back in time, you never met him in your entire life and you don't even know the ocean exists, then obviously,
Starting point is 00:10:11 you know, that would be nice. But you got the most perfect daughter out of it. But it's almost like I can't even go there because I'm like a life without ocean. Oh, take me out. Right. Yeah. In a chisred world, Do you have, this is a question that I thought and it was kind of sensitive, but do you ever have concerns, you know, with the shared custody, like when she's with him
Starting point is 00:10:32 about what she's exposed to being with him now? I get very concerned. It keeps me up at night. And the only thing I really have is, it's so funny. My mom gets these things that pop up for narcissism. And it's like a quote of the day and also like how to deal with a narcissist. And at the very end of it, she was reading it to me and it said, you have to find relief in a higher power. And like, that is one thing because I don't have any control right now. I'm in the battle of not only my life,
Starting point is 00:11:05 but for Ocean's life. And I have to just believe that there's something greater that is gonna protect her. Yeah, I love that. I mean, I'm telling you, so like we're gonna jump around a little bit because if so many just thoughts and feelings right now and fucking tears, I hate seeing you cry.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It murders me. But when we were watching this, Luke looked at me and said, my ex-boyfriend, you guys know whom talking about. He said, this person, he's like, aren't you so glad you didn't have a baby with that person? And that person is not done. The unspeakables that we've seen on this documentary that we know about personally, about Randall,
Starting point is 00:11:43 but still was a narcissist. And I'm like, yeah, I really am, because you can't, that person, they are who they are. You know, like a narcissist, you and I talk about the shit all the time. Like, that's why, so, dangling back to the reunion, when you're like, sandubulls are fucking narcissists, I fucking dated him.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I can say it, I already own a date of them. She can say, you've been around him for many, many years. And sandubulls not even who I'm talking about, by the way, as far as my ex, what is wrong with that? I fucking dated him. I can say it. Ariana dated him. She can say, you've been around him for many, many years. And Santa Ball is not even who I'm talking about, by the way, as far as my ex. What is wrong with us? But they get there, but they know, they know how to pray on, I don't want to say the week, but people who are passionate in loving. Because you are what they wish they could be.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And they start mimicking your behavior, but then when they don't have control of you anymore, you start waking up a little bit in the mask falls, then it becomes a very dangerous situation. Yeah. And that's why, you know, again, I don't want to, I want to talk much more just about you, but just going back to, you can relate. You can relate. Well, one, yeah, one million percent, but also you said in one of the reunions,
Starting point is 00:12:47 like you didn't sit there and say, sand of all was like beating Ariana. You just said he's a dangerous human. Correct. And that, I stand by that. So I, girl, yes. And for, and I've said this on my recap, but like for LVP to like jump down and say, oh, don't make that claim. Lisa, Vannapromp, I'm grateful that you probably have no idea what it's like to be with someone like that. No, I know. And I say to people when they say like it doesn't make sense or no, he's not. And I'm like, you know what? I'm so envious of you that you've never come in contact with someone like that because if you understand what I'm saying, it means you've had experience. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And I don't wish that on anybody. We've got to take away that you have to have a mark on your body to be abused. Yes. There's course of control. There's mental abuse. Psychological abuse, emotional abuse, financial abuse. Like my sister does a lot of work with the domestic violence shelter that's very near and dear to us in Michigan, a local shelter.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And my sister, when I was dating one of my exes, not a man of pump rules, guys. When I was dating one of my exes, she sent me, there's like, almost like, you know, the color wheel where it's like purples across from yellow and whatever. So there's this wheel of abuse.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And it shows this pie structure of like all the different forms of abuse that I really didn't know existed and then how they are like combined. You know, it's like where one overlaps the other one. Right. And it just blew my fucking mind because it's hard when you are the one in a relationship like that, the being abused and being the victim to own and accept that, because you're like, well, he didn't hit me. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Should I be stronger? Like, what's really emotional abuse? Like, you make these fucking excuses for this person. Right. Yeah, and it's very, and start looking inward. And it's like, well, because they make, they make you feel like you've gone crazy. They do.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And what they do is they take you on extremes. It's very textbook. The lowest of lows to the highest of highs, and then you realize that they've broken your soul. Yeah. And then you're fucked. And then you're fucked. And the coming back from that is very intense.
Starting point is 00:14:58 In probably a long process. It's a, I, I'm not gonna have a overnight. No, I mean, I don't really trust no offense to you. I don't trust straight men. Right. I don't, that's not like I'm gonna kick you out of the office, but I'm like, you know, like I'm kinda good on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Girls and gays. Yeah, because that's what the abuse has done to your psyche right now, to your soul. Like, and it's gonna take time for you to work through that until you do again. I think that it's super fucking unfortunate, but it makes perfect sense at the same time. Totally. And I like shitty that that's one of the ramifications of being in that relationship
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Starting point is 00:18:10 we were still like waking up the next morning in some foreign Airbnb. And like what's on the schedule today? Gotta work. Yeah. We've got bills to pay, gotta find a house, gotta go get a car, have lawyer bills that are gonna start coming in.
Starting point is 00:18:23 We could not stop. Do you think that was the mama bear in you? Absolutely. Okay. Because I couldn't say very with unfortunate, like obvious certainty that I didn't, you know, I wasn't able to pick myself up after certain narcissist relationships. Right, but you have to be easy on yourself, you know, I wasn't, I didn't have a choice because my seven month old did not have a baby. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So I don't know what it would have been like, had I not had ocean. I like to think that maybe I would have found a strength that women possess, you know, with or without a child. But I do think that there's nothing like the strength of a mother. Oh, I agree. Looking at you, looking at Shina, like, you know, just looking at Brittany,
Starting point is 00:19:06 Sassy, who I'm not even super close to, but just being like, I have now watched my friends in close proximity. I have friends back home, they have kids that are married, all this stuff, but like in true close proximity, people that I spend daily, I spend time with daily,
Starting point is 00:19:20 watching you all like from your first day that I found out you were pregnant until the time you gave birth to where your toddlers are now. And I'm like, that's fucking super woman. Yeah. Wonder woman on like, time's 10. 10. I fully agree with you.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Like I have this mad respect for mothers. Yeah. And it's made me have much more of a respect even for my mom. Like as I've gotten older, but again, like seeing what you, girls have gone through, and what you've gone through, and my mom realizing now at 40 years old,
Starting point is 00:19:51 like my mom was a single mom raising three kids and working like multiple jobs. And me thinking my dad was like, the cool one. And my mom has all the rules. And like my mom's like never really around. And my grandparents watching me. And it's like, my mom fucking did every thing she could. So I felt that my childhood was fucking perfect.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Totally. I had no idea that anything was wrong. She had to make Christmas happen. Thanksgiving dinners had to, you know, we didn't have money at times. I didn't know that anything was wrong until I was a grown-ass adult. That's a fucking warrior right there.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So shout out to all the moms. I know. Oh, hard. Okay, so we'll just, let's just get through this Randall scandal. Because yeah, like I said, I cried, well, when I wrote, I took a lot of notes because that's what I do. Good, I love that your notes are actually like, vegetable. Vegetable.
Starting point is 00:20:39 PEN to paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a total person. Yeah. But I wrote, I literally cried in the first 20 seconds. Like I said kind of earlier, but like the first 20 seconds, shit was just hitting me. So hard. Obviously watching you cry, watching your mom, watching Easton more than anything, but
Starting point is 00:20:57 then like the treatment of the assistance and it's all stuff. I like kind of knew like when I was in his life in my y'all's life, I'm like, yeah, see the rage before I remember this, I remember certain things. My biggest question, and maybe this is your biggest question to the fucking court system and everything else, is with that article, which I believe is somewhere
Starting point is 00:21:21 circa 54 pages long, the article with Ali Times. Yeah, 53 and a few things. It's insane. Yeah. And then this documentary, and all of these people coming forward that have been brave enough to do so, how the hell is none of this used in your custody battle? They do not care.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But why is this not so simple for them to just say, she has a loving mother and a perfect family support system around her? She is so well taking care of her mom. I told you this last night when we were watching the reunion together. I mean, you already had companies, multiple companies working and when you know, we were talking about what you're sending to Darryl sweatshirts that I'm wearing literally right now and so are you.
Starting point is 00:22:04 But I was asking you about different materials, like you were using a blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, the reason that you are so fucking successful is you don't wait a second. Thank you, good. The second something comes to your mind, you did an Instagram story about the dumb season to cis thing and you went, you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:20 You're just popping off, like just chatting up a storm on Instagram to yourself and your followers, right? I'm pretty much like, don't send that shit to my Gmail, send it to Daryl. And it was like, by the time I blinked in woke up, they were sent it to Daryl merch. I'm like, fucking brilliant.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It's so impressive. It really is. And it's also super impressive, just everything for you to come from what you came from, which is a far extreme to what anyone else can even see. But I see people go through things that can't even compare and you've turned it into this fuel
Starting point is 00:22:48 that is so rare and awesome to see and be around because it's everything so impressive. I mean, we're here in your studio recording this. And it's gorgeous. Office. Office last year. It's an office, it's a studio. We don't really know what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and a rock. It's a rock and we don't really know what it is. It's a cholesterol of just like products, merch, microphones on the table. But you are just fucking important. Literally, we are. We're in like the nicest part of West Hollywood. I'm surrounded by give them Walla Baby, give them Walla Beauty, give them Walla Book,
Starting point is 00:23:15 give them Walla Podcast. And like holy fucking shit. Like, and then there's this show called Vanderbomb Rolls-Full. Right, you know. That was really kind of both of you to acknowledge. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. I'm impressed by you more than any of other Christians, other friends.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I mean, everyone's great in their own right, but for what you've come through and how you have turned it, like I said, turned it into fuel and like state-focused, it's incredible. Yeah. Thank you. I think it's because I have a great support system. Like, you guys are a part of that support system, obviously my incredible family. And I don't really know how it happens.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I just know that things don't last forever. Example is send it to Darro, like the moment that people took to it. It was like, this needs to happen, like, yeah, like yesterday. Like, this needed to be made before I even delivered that fucking line. You know?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Because tomorrow, no one cares. Well, yeah, because like, I'm really in a week. And we posted things that are way funnier. In a week, there's just gonna be like another slogan you said, popping off about whatever. But then you take that, like you're tattoo. You know, it ain't, you turn your tattoo in a march.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Like my favorite should ever. I wear this shirt all the time. If you cannot, just, you know, it ain't, right? You turned your tattoo in the merch, like my favorite should ever. I wear the sweatshirts all the time. If you cannot just, I profit off of like my heartbreak. Exactly. Because what else am I gonna do? So be upset about it, cry about it, and what the fuck is that gonna get me? Not a house that I paid for on my own in Palm Springs,
Starting point is 00:24:42 that's where I'm sure. Right, you know, I don't get it, girl. I'm in Palm Springs. That's where damn sure. Right, you know. Get it girl. I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with you. Okay, so I'll just roll through the scandal really quick. But essentially, there were some things that I kind of didn't know. And I thought we're, I guess interesting
Starting point is 00:24:57 for a lot of about our term. But they were talking with this origin story about him being this underdog persona like in high school. But at the same time, I feel like it was almost like a juxtaposition of him always wanting to be famous. Totally. And the fame was like meant more than anything. So I felt like that was just such a juxtaposition
Starting point is 00:25:14 because obviously I met Randall much, much, much later in life. And that's the one thing I was telling Luke, think God Luke's never had to meet this person. But I was like, it was always about fame. Totally. Absolutely. And flaunting. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And so how are we supposed to think anything else than what we were seeing was true? What I also want for you is to not ever feel jaded by like moving forward in your life that like what you're seeing from someone is not what you get. Totally. Because that's what he fucking did to you.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And it's like, there's another fucking scar. Well, in his childhood best friend, when all of this happened, came to me and said, I've known him since we were children, and he's always been a pathological liar. So... Shit, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. I think when he was mean to his assistants, there were many, many, many times. I can remember one vividly. This assistant was not in the doc, but something happened in Las Vegas and the way that he treated this assistant. I said something to him,
Starting point is 00:26:17 said something to that, luch, the assistant left, because at that point in time, when someone's embarrassing you, you don't want to make it even worse. But I had had it. And I went into the closet and started packing my bags and I was in hysterics. I was like, that is someone's child, that is someone's brother, like for you to fucking treat them this way is I'm disgusted.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I packed my shit and I left. And I used to make, justify it in my mind, is this person was most likely bullied, because he had told me that. And he now had the success. And so he was almost mimicking how he had been treated to other people to make himself feel better. And I thought I could fix that. I would tell him, you're the cool kid.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Absolutely. I'm like, you're the cool kid. Absolutely. I'm like, you're the cool kid. Look at what you've done. You don't need to treat people this way. That's how I justified it in my mind. What I've learned from that is, I'm not going to judge someone off of how they treat me. I'm going to judge them off of how they treat other people.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Ooh. Yeah, isn't that. That this thing. Yeah. Saying on your first date, how someone tips and treats the way he and his staff tells you everything, you need to know about the- The ballet, the wait staff, the bus, the culture. Yeah, like just the people that are being of service to you.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Like, are you, and it's not about the money, but I mean, but it's like the kindness, the compassion, the treating people well. Right. You like to be treated. Yeah, that was a huge lesson for me. And I literally wrote down that word for it, I said, I do know that you did not tolerate his behavior
Starting point is 00:27:52 because I've seen you put him in his place. I had to put him in his place. Do you think so? So that my question was like, do you think that you turned a blind eye, but now I realize it was like you just having sympathy for this what you assumed this bullied child?
Starting point is 00:28:08 I would not say that I turned a blind dive because I wouldn't have procreated with such a monster. No, I'm saying like more earlier on. Definitely not. Earlier on, I think I justified it as like I said, like oh, he was like severely bullied as a kid. He was always, I mean, even in the dog, they refer to him as a geek.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They did. They kept saying the nerdy kid in Miami's high school that the geek, like, oh, poor guy. Right. So for me, it was like he's bringing his trauma into the present. He's a broken soul. We've just got to work through it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. It's so funny. I'm so glad that they got footage of his, the reality show that he was trying to pitch, which by the way, how do I, how do I've been filmed when I was like in junior higher high school? They were talking about that, the mogul or whatever. The mogul. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I was like for him to say like, I joined the show to help you out. I always wanted to be behind the camera. Cut to, you tried to pitch a reality show about yourself. Like, when I was literally like a sophomore in high school, it's like, the amount of like, we're just exposing you. Like, we're fucking done. Is incredible. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:30:33 And he was off doing whatever he was doing during COVID and coming home to me who's pregnant and then with a newborn and it's like, wow, you just like really don't give a fuck. Yeah, when you think back, what was the first red flag that you ignored and like kept rolling with? Is there something that stands out? Oh, the first red flag should have been the,
Starting point is 00:30:52 you're on your phone 24-7. You're on your phone 24-7. What you got going on there. Right. Because you say that you're working. And to be honest, and I threw this insult around a lot of times for as much as you work, I'm like very unimpressed with how much money you have. Usually a fucking billionaire with the amount of work and deals you claim to be doing on that
Starting point is 00:31:15 fucking phone. But nobody was doing, don't we? What blew me away that I just feel like is the just ways that people show their characters when you were in labor and he wouldn't got a separate room Yeah, and he claims that that's a lie and he was there the whole time I remember we recorded a podcast and I talked about him getting a room and he made my podcast editor take it out and pretend that He was in the room even when as far as to talking about how uncomfortable the couch was. That my mother was actually the one sleeping it. Wow. No. But it goes back.
Starting point is 00:31:49 His best friend, he's always been a pathological liar. And the scariest part is I think he believes what he's telling. Right. I agree with you. Which is why his eyes are always black because it's fight mode. It's like an animal in the jungle praying. You know, it's like looking for prey. It's on the prowl.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And so it makes sense why even when we were together, he was never included in my prayers. And he would ask me to look in his eyes and I would always look at them and go, why do they seem so black? Whoa. Even when we were like together. Yeah. Well, and your mom said something Whoa That's even when we were like together. Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:32 Well, and your mom said something that really struck a chord with me and made me ball my eyes out But when your mom said you know when like they started dating and he was like oh moving with me and all this stuff Right pre-ocean she was like oh is It was come when your dad passed and she was like he oh, it was when your dad passed. And she was like, he made her feel so safe. Yeah. And I remember those times so well and him even texting all of us girls when we were gonna come to Salt Lake City
Starting point is 00:32:57 and all of that. And he really did. Like it felt so genuine and just so... That's one thing that I... I would your mom not want that for you. This man that makes you feel safe. That is all a mother ever wants, right? No, you have to know.
Starting point is 00:33:12 There were times where my mom cried to me and said, like, I'm so happy for you. Like, you found someone that really loves you. And I don't think it's that he didn't love me. I think he is incapable of love. I completely agree. And but that's one thing that I will never try to take away from him is, because I don't have to take anything away from him.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He takes away everything. You know, he's got the shovel. He's digging himself. But the one thing that I will never drag him on is when my dad passed away, he came in and really picked up the pieces. He was the one where my mom and I couldn't get out of bed and he was like, we're going to lunch, we're going to go remember Kent. And that I will always be forever grateful for because he really picked up.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There's that higher power. You know? Yeah. I think, I mean, it's very big of you to like credit that. I just think that was probably also the higher power stepping in and going. We're going to make sure that this person who may ruin your life, try to ruin your life, tell them the wrong deed, did not. He tried. Right. Will not succeed, especially in this moment. He will actually humble himself and give himself to you in this moment.
Starting point is 00:34:25 In this moment. In this moment. Absolutely. That is the one time in my life that I was completely debilitated. And I still look back and how everything unfolded and me finding out that I was with a monster. It was like, that was like God, creator of the universe, and all things mixed with my dad and my guides being like she's tough enough to fucking handle this and now is the time to get her out.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Ocean seven months, young enough to like not remember shit and it's time for her to abort mission. Yeah. And that that Ellie Times article was coming out whether I was with him or not. That shit was so heavy. I could not believe that. How crazy is that? Do you even have enough content to write an article of that magnitude of that quantity, like, and with the quality of writing, of course, but I'm just saying the quantity, that many pages, is just like, holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So that's why I just, it's still like just rattling my brain how none of this yet has had a positive effect on everything you're going through with custody of ocean. It's like, no, they don't care at all. Oh the fuck. So it doesn't matter what I bring to them. It's so corrupt. I think people would fall ill
Starting point is 00:35:44 if they saw what I submitted to the court and what was rejected. And they say unless there's about to be blood on the floor, there's no intervening. And I'm like, okay, so what you're telling me is when it's too late for a child is when you step in, set up preventing it all together. Well, the court system certainly favors people with a lot of money. That's how it works. Yes. Yes. These people, I know we've been super everything. 25 million dollars in lawsuits.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I think is what they came up with. I look today, the house is in pre-foreclosure. There you go. Okay. But again, you know what? Not my problem. No. As long as ocean, ocean is my concern.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yes. That is it. Have been insane. Don't care what happens to him. She's smart about ocean and her well-being. And making sure that that little spirit is incubated and we have her just grow up to be a beautiful, strong woman. That is all like, all your life.
Starting point is 00:36:39 All right, everything we see in ocean right now, which is like this smart little bright light who just loves so hard, she's so intelligent, she picks up on everything. And she's just a fucking blast to be around. She's really freaking cool. The other day, I was changing her diaper and she doesn't like her diaper changed, right?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Like she's over it, it cuts in a playtime and her big thing right now is she wants to look at the diaper. She's very curious. Like what has come out? Yeah. And so I told her, I said, ocean, don't touch it. And she goes, be careful, mama. Be nice.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And I'm like, I'm not doing anything. And if anyone hears you, it's going to seem like I am doing something. Like stop telling me to be careful and be nice. My mom was telling me that this little girl was like, we were at some birthday party and this little girl had a toy in one chair with Ocean and she told her to be nice. Everyone's got to, I'm like, you also have to be nice. So funny. Right?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Ocean's like, well, I am being nice. I'm telling her to be nice. I'm trying to better her for her future. Like, you know, like, what is that inner brain of hers? I just know, like, between she and summer moon, like, when I watch them have these conversations with each other and I'm like, I've just died a no. Like, you know the movie Lucas talking.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yes, they absolutely know what the other one is. Yes. I know when they make zero cents. Yeah. You guys remember that my first trip to LA when Chris and I started hanging out with my surprise, and you and Ocean became buds. Chris and I started hanging out. Oh, yeah. And you know, she became But ocean. I became buds at the pool. Yeah, ocean doesn't see many men. So when she does
Starting point is 00:38:11 She's like a little bit of a flur and that's what she's yeah So now I want to talk about In the saw like ties together, but one mom's battle on Instagram. I follow and Just yeah, I mean I want to talk about that. I want to talk about Washington DC. I want to talk about your peaceful protests because that is also like, I feel like you taking this, you're just turning this into as for lack of a better term.
Starting point is 00:38:39 The best thing it can be is you raising your daughter perfectly and properly, fighting as hard as you can, and now using your anger, your pain, your sadness, and like trying to change the system and lives that will, you know, to come. Right. Thank you. Which I think is fucking phenomenal. I'm trying. I know that I'm just like one small voice, but I know that I do. It's how it starts. That, right. If I can get everybody on board,
Starting point is 00:39:04 because you just have to be like a compassionate person with a heart to like care about what we're talking about. And even if you're in a happy, healthy relationship and you have kids, it's that way until it could not be that way. You know, it happens overnight in your inner position that you didn't know really existed. And the reality hits pretty hard. And I think it's important for, I'm gonna talk about women specifically
Starting point is 00:39:27 because one mom's battle is really a bad women. I want you to swing to like our listeners. Yeah. And even to Luke, I don't know if you know a lot about it, Luke. I do, so I'm gonna let you. Yeah, so it's mostly made up of women, but if you have a child, you need to be educated because it could affect you and your children one day.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Tina Swithin, like you said, has one mom's battle and there's kind of two things happening at once that align and can come together at some point. The first one is Kaden's Law. And Kaden is a little girl whose parents were obviously divorcing, fighting for custody. The mother walked in on numerous occasions, begging the court to care about her concerns. Like, I am worried about the well-being of my child.
Starting point is 00:40:11 They did not listen to her. Kate and ends up being murdered by her dad. This law was adopted on a federal level, and now it's going state-by-state, which I go to states and I give a testimony, and it's one of many. I mean, there's people who have been directly affected, children who have been directly affected and just hoping that this law will pass. And basically long story short of what this law means
Starting point is 00:40:36 is it takes children's safety and makes it so that it trumps parental rights. Because if you look at the court system and the way it's designed now, there are dads who have been convicted of, you know, really horrific crimes and they're still allowed custody because parental rights always trun. It's like, oh, well, by the way, I always say, being a dad, being a parent is a luxury.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You don't get to just shoot some sperm and be called dad. You have to take on the role. That's not how the court system sees it. If you want custody, it's 50-50. There are certain states favor certain parents. That's right. It's very different state by state. Utah is I'm trying to get them to see the light. I just did a testimony in Montana.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Unfortunately, that didn't go through with, it was SB 250. That was the bill that we were talking about in Montana. And then there's another section of reunification camps. And the best way that I can describe this is if anybody is familiar with like Britney Spears and where she was sent, she was sent to Bridges, same fucking thing. So basically, I'm going to use a dad. It was Woody Allen in his custody case with Mia Farrow. They came up with this term parental alienation where they think the safe parent
Starting point is 00:41:52 is brainwashing the children to not like the the unsafe parent. The bad guy goes in and says like she's brainwashing my kid parental alienation. The court then steps in and can order that the children be taken by force to what is called a reunification camp. And they basically... It's fucking hard to break in. They're... They basically sit there and have them play like mind games to show them that their mind is lying to them
Starting point is 00:42:24 and that their unsafe parent is actually a good guy and their preferred parent has been lying to them. This is a, like, a, they're un... They're un... ...and they make a shit ton of money. Yeah, that's fucked up. It is $40,000 for four days. I mean, if you, there's, I'll, look, I'll show you later.
Starting point is 00:42:45 They have gone as far. So the one mom's faddle and so you're like, literally she will show videos of children. And I'm not talking, I'll just about like babies. I'm even talking like children who can literally speak for themselves who have opinions. Well, the youngest to be taken into a reunification campus six.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You're talking about my and Sebastian who were taken by force. It is the most triggering video, but I want people to see how they take these children by force. It is terrifying. Or essentially almost like arresting them. Traumatizing. Right. Traumatizing them to the point where there are kids who have aged out and they talk about their experience,
Starting point is 00:43:23 and they will never be the same. It's going to be a lifetime of intensive therapy. And they go, when they go to these places, they go as far as depriving them of clothing, depriving them of food. What? Right, like taking pieces of clothing slowly until they have nothing but their underwear.
Starting point is 00:43:40 How is that? Do you know what it reminds me? Anything. Because you have to follow the money. And what's so crazy is when I did a protest, her name's Brody Dahl, I have nothing but their underwear. Do you know what it reminds me? Anything. Because you have to follow the money. And what's so crazy is when I did a protest, her name's Brody Dahl, her husband was a musician, her child was taken to a reunification camp. She has two kids. One I believe is about to age out, but she still has one more.
Starting point is 00:44:01 The judge gagged her, which is why we speak on her behalf now, and we were at the Stanley Moss Courthouse protesting for her during one of her court hearings. And I go to the Stanley Moss Courthouse, I'm looking at all of the signs that we can hold up. One of them says, follow the money. There's a list of names. And I'm reading'm going, holy fuck, these people were brought into my custody case, which leads me to believe one in one thing only. You were setting my daughter up to go through this pipeline that is thousands upon thousands of dollars just completely lining pockets of court professionals saying we don't give a fuck about the well-being of these kids because I'm making money and we'll deal with it later. It's insane and I'm telling
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Starting point is 00:46:35 Visit betterhelp.com slash doti today to get 10% off your first month. That's better help h-e-L-P dot com slash dodie. My blood's boiling right now. Just mistreating children is the most evil thing. I feel like in the world. Oh my gosh, the most innocent of beings. Like how could you do that? And then you look at these kids who have been traumatized
Starting point is 00:46:59 in the court system now listens to them and they're like, how heartbreaking, I'm like, but you could have stopped it. And you didn't. This hits close to me on multiple levels in ways of people being close to me. And I won't say exactly who the person is so I don't know why I always said,
Starting point is 00:47:16 I felt like I had to silence myself a little bit just to not screw them over in this ongoing thing. But someone very, very, very close to me in my life, who I consider family. A father, actually, who has a full custody of his son, who is young, but since this child in my life was like a toddler. This person in my life has been trying to get full custody over and over and over, where
Starting point is 00:47:43 the mother was pulled over drunk with the baby in the car seat, but the car seat's like the, it's not even buckled, it's come to pick the baby up when she's like, clearly on multiple pills. Like, just, I mean, the things were endless. And the worst thing that happened was the child was present at home, when her, I don't know if this was her boyfriend or her new or husband at the time, committed suicide. Oh my God. Yet still it was like all these things, you know, convoluted, but yet this person close to me who is the father trying so hard, it blew my mind how these things didn't really have much of a bearing in his custody
Starting point is 00:48:28 battle because it's 50-50, the state that he lives in actually was, this is when I started finding out that sea laws that the mother was favored. And I'm not saying the mother shouldn't be favored, the father should, I'm not a parent, right? My point is it blew my mind that there were all of these things just sitting right in like facts, horrible, horrible facts that are endangering this child's life. Exactly. They're endangering a child. And yet thousands of dollars, another court date, a thousands of dollars, another court date. And this person close to me, this dad is just trying to protect his child. To protect his child. That's it. And not everyone has thousands and thousands and thousands
Starting point is 00:49:06 of dollars. So I say paying for the girls. It's a luxury to get to protect your kid. And even when you have the means to protect your kid, you are up against a wall. Like your hands are tied the moment you enter a custody battle, you no longer have any control. Your child belongs to the court system.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And that don't work for me. Mm-mm. Hell no. No random person is going to decide what's in the best interest of my child. Or even, honestly, in my opinion, as you're saying, even if you have their fucking opinion on what's good for your child. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:42 At the lowest of the totem pole, like, didn't ask, don't care how you feel. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? She's surrounded by love. She's so brilliant, like, step off. And to just drag you through all of this while you're protecting ocean and so hard.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And I mean, I guess, for lack of a better word, luckily, she's so young that she won't remember this stuff. Right. And I said this during the finale, what would have been the finale episode of Vanderpompt and they took it out and I'm totally okay with that. But Lisa asked me, what do you want when it comes to ocean? And I said, I wanna know why people are accusing him
Starting point is 00:50:19 of the things they're accusing him of. Remember, what people are accusing him of to me is not even put out there. Right. What I'm going into the courtroom with, into the court system with, it makes me ill that I'm even putting this into court documents going how the fuck is this real? And at that time, I think ocean was like, how old was she, nine, ten months? And I was like, I'm not fighting for Ocean who's nine months right now.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Fighting for Ocean when she's five, six. Fighting for her future. Fighting for, just like when she's through the years, exactly. Yeah, we're fighting for her because if I don't, her future is grim grim and I'm gonna have to pick up the pieces and I'm not willing to allow anyone to fuck my child up beyond repair. Yeah. So you guys fucking listen to Lala. I mean by the damn merch then fucking listen to what she's saying. Please jump on this
Starting point is 00:51:20 bandwagon like make changes, you know, be the change that you want to see. Be a voice, sign the things that I freaking post. Watch the videos, even if it's triggering, like, you gotta know what exists. Absolutely. I'm in line, and I had no idea, like, I was blown away with something you're saying, I didn't know it existed. How would that even be legal?
Starting point is 00:51:39 How's that possible? Exactly. I know! How the fuck is it legal? Like, yeah, how is this possible that we're even having this conversation for this long of a period of time right now? Let alone the many months and years you've had to pump up things. Money and corruption.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Right. Money and corruption. And I'm just getting started. Like, I'm gonna have a lot of season to cis coming my way. Very soon. Because I'm just gonna start saying names calling people out because they don't like being on someone like They don't like being on my radar. Yeah, cuz I don't stop call fofty Fawfty we need you to be the mic
Starting point is 00:52:20 join on it What is the future look like for Lauren? Burning ham. Burning ham. Lala Kent. I love that my mom was calling me Lauren. And I love that Eason told everyone why you are Lala so people start being like,
Starting point is 00:52:36 oh, why is she Lala with our big hoops from Salon? Salon and he's like, because I couldn't say Lauren when I was little, say Lauren. When I was little, so I said Lala. Yeah. No, it's down there. No, itala, like, if a little mother gave her an nickname, you guys calm down. Everyone calm down didn't change my name, and I just like to big hoops.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I still do. I love all shapes and sizes of hoopy. I'm like, shapes and sizes of what? I'm fortunately, I'm like, warding the dick off at a cost. But I'll let you know when that changes. Yeah. Oh, I'd you know when that changes. Yeah. Oh, I'd like to create an empire.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You know, how big of me, right? No, I mean, I just want a little simple empire. What do you think it's going to take for you to like trust and want to give a man another person a chance at a relationship at like opening that door for love? Do you think it's like, have you set a bar where you're like, well, oh, I mean, I know you set a bar real high as you should as far as who this human could be.
Starting point is 00:53:31 But as far as like, oh, she needs to be at least this age or like, I need to do do do do do do. Or are you just not there yet and when you're there, you'll know. Well, I know that I'm going to have another baby on my own, no matter what. Luke wanted to ask you about that. Yeah, I'm going to have another baby on my own, no matter what. Luke wanted to ask you about that. Yeah, I was going to.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah. I would like to definitely do that solo. There's not even, even if I got back to trusting, it's just like I'm not taking any chances. I like 100% when it comes to being with my kid every day and getting to like just have every sleep with them. I don't really know what it would take. I need closure, there's no closure.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I'm still, when I say closure, I just mean like, I'm still in it. I'm still in the battle. Yes. I, when this is over, I'm going to go into full hibernation. I say that, but then I know I'm gonna be like at the office calling Jessica like, where was the next reading?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Like, full hibernation for 12 hours. Yeah. Yeah. Hibernation meaning I will finally get a full night sleep. Yes. Love that for me. And then I'm just gonna like roll with the punches. What I do want after there is resolution, I just want to enjoy the fuck out of my kid every single day. I love that. If someone happens to answer, right? to enjoy the fuck out of my kid every single day.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I love that. If someone happens to answer, right? Seren Dippitus situation and someone, you magically meet someone randomly, like you're walking through a hallway and you both have books in your arms and you bump into each other and you drop all the books on the floor and then you accidentally bump heads
Starting point is 00:55:04 and you're like, oh my gosh, you're cute. If this fairy tale romcom were to show up in your life a year from now to your shaman or something, do you think you would allow yourself to be open to like communicating and flirting? And is does their background check come back clear? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You got to clear the background check first. And it's worldwide. Like, did you do something fucked up in Germany? I don't know. We'll find out. Actually, I don't even thought, God, Carl, you're better detective than I am. Not really.
Starting point is 00:55:37 The PIs. But okay, but I didn't even think about overseas. I'm just like, oh, nothing on Google, Gussie's clear. Come on, I'm old. That's fine. I love that. Take me back to my space. That, if it were obviously perfect, then yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I would never like... I mean, nothing's perfect. I would never... They've also got to fit into my life, which is going to be very difficult, because it's like, you got a family, and it's Christmas time, we're spending it with mine. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:04 If you want to go be with your family, like, have fun. But I think that's what the... Or my family, the families are going to have to come together. Yeah. Like, my mom is never moving out. Easton's never moving out. We're getting the compound.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And it's going to be filled, which is like... Sounds like so much fun. That's what I'm doing. Can I move in the compound? Yeah, I'm building a compound. The compound is really for women who have decided not to have life partners and games. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Okay. But you think we're all just, you can play things. Yeah. You just can't stay. To Justin, I have like an annual pass at least where we like don't have to request access. I'll have like a little sign-in book. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Before we wrap this up, Lala, can you tell us about meeting the president and going to DC? I wish I would have met the president. Oh, you didn't? No. Okay, sorry. No, but it was really weird watching him. I'm like, you know what's so crazy?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Is if I were to just walk up there, secret service would literally attack me. You're talking me to the ground. I'd go to prison. But right now I feel like everyone up there is like my friend, catch catch a leader, Joe. Great to see you, Camila. You look good, girl.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But like if I would have passed like some invisible line straight to the ground. Yeah, like the matrix. The matrix like laser beams, but you can't see them. The service hall has a lot of them. No, totally. But it was a surreal experience.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It was the first time that I had ever had in Poster syndrome, and it was crazy, because everyone there was obsessed with Vanderpump rules, and we, and Arianna and I were obsessed with the fact that like these people are like making laws, producing the news on CNN. It was crazy. I could not believe I was there,
Starting point is 00:57:43 and I would talk to them about what I was working on and they would start circling back to like, Scandival, which is totally fine because they're in a box of news and they want to break out of it. And I'm in a box of Scandival and I'm trying to break out of it and somewhat make a fucking difference on the planet.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Seriously. And I'm like, and y'all have the power to help me out. So I still talked about it to anyone who would listen. Well, that's awesome. I'm so sorry to be you, I love you. Thank you, babe. I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with you guys. Okay, well, I want to wrap this up with two last things because I think all three of us and Jess is here as well. All four of us can decide, we can't wait to stop talking about
Starting point is 00:58:19 Skandball. I won't lie, I'm kind of excited. Oh,? Yeah, I mean. I'm excited for reunion three, only because I need to just know how this gets nipped in a bud, and how long is, how long, well, you don't know because you don't know about editing. But I'm like, how long do I have to watch, or how barely blink until I get she in a back on my screen for that episode? It's, I believe if they show like, she comes back for like, we don't do a toast. We're like, doesn't feel like a toastie. No Peter Magical bringing the sun up.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Peter Magical coming out, we left and it was kind of heavy and dark. It's so crazy, because I talk about, he's like a little bit for this, you know. And this is why they haven't sent it to us before. And I literally know not a thing. I said on Amazon Live, I know, but I don't actually know. You know what you lived through
Starting point is 00:59:17 what you went through that day. They said, Raquel does a one-on-one and she exposes some new details. And I was like, okay. And they were like, but you can't confirm that. And I was like, okay, and they were like, but you can't confirm that. And I was like, okay, it's not that juicy. Yeah. To even over.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Because I think we're all sitting here. I had these guys, we did a podcast with called the Braw Bros. And they're like trying to get information out of me. And I'm like, yo, I'm like not on the show. No, don't really, don't know. But I feel like a lot more. I'm a cluster. I hope not. I wouldn't be surprised if they only allowed
Starting point is 00:59:47 a certain amount of editors to work on the episode. Oh, so there's no production leaks. Totally. Like, I literally would not be surprised. That's a really good point. Mm-hmm. They're keeping it on lock, and they said, on screen, wait until the last five minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, like put it in the last five minutes. And no one's turning that off early. And like, what could it be where a group of thirsty people who are so thirsty to be on camera that they're willing to give up acting and everything else, to do reality TV? What could possibly make us not come back?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, consider not coming back to this platform that, again, I will say for the 80 millionth time on my podcast and reality TV career, no one does Vanderpump rules for their health. You do it for a platform. Well, and they could. So you can have, they could.
Starting point is 01:00:40 They could. And other things, right? Yeah, they could literally say, like, Raquel actually banged all your men and we'd say, like, great, let's let me add her. Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't care. I'd be like, better you would have me
Starting point is 01:00:52 imagine. I'd be like, better you would have me imagine. Or like, what, Rachele is coming back. Okay, well, she's not gonna go well. Yeah, that's okay. Lisa knew the whole time that, I'm thinking of things that I've gotten in DMs about that people are speculating.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And Lisa did. Do you think that that girl on TikTok was her and people were like, she, it was her, but she looked pregnant. That girl had way too much swag to be Raquel. I don't think so. In Jacksonville. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I was like, was the only way she would be in Jacksonville is if like, Tom were there, which I didn't see him. I don't think so. I was too schedule free tickets, right? Oh, I did. I looked it up. Did you? Because he's my most favorite person to troll right now.
Starting point is 01:01:27 He blocked me. Oh, so blocked by sand of all? I do it for the gram and the pod. That's it. So I actually unblocked him when our friend passed away recently, about some piece Ollie. I unblocked him because I wanted to see if he had posted anything about it
Starting point is 01:01:44 or was he posting like The same narcissistic sort of selfish things and he did post about it. So I unblocked him for that reason I don't know if I reblocked him or not But I've read a lot of funny things about these shows and stuff like he put I was like so this will be my little troll of the night And then we'll wrap this up, but I did read yesterday. I think I showed it to you that The park. Yes, so Tom Santafall, I don't know if this is on. Instagram or Twitter, but posted like this article about his Houston show and it was like a thousand people,
Starting point is 01:02:17 like but now it's like doubled that and it's the biggest crowd this club in Houston has ever had. And he was like sold out show. Sold out show, double the capacity. And someone, first of all, Fire Marshall would never allow that. So fuck off.
Starting point is 01:02:32 We know that. Don't. Like we know that. And number two, this blessed this person on Twitter, she posted, like, kind of, quote tweeted it and said, so actually this club, quote unquote, is a public park and the tickets were free. So.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Oh, there's that. I've done it. It made me so happy. And Luke, let's ask her our last question. And Jess, I want you to get to the mic for this one as well. OK. Do we have to sing it? Can we just ask? Sure. OK, I'm losing my voice today. mic for this one as well. Okay. Do we have to sing it? Can we just ask?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Sure. Okay, I'm losing my voice today. Shout out to Meat Love for us to sing. Shout to Meat Love. Does that one work, Jess? So, you guys, both of you. I would do anything for love. I would do.
Starting point is 01:03:16 But I won't do. Anel. Good answer. There we go. There's one. Is that true though? A hundred. Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Are we so in sync? You were gonna say anal too. I was thinking, I don't think I'd ever allow anyone to put it in my bum. You've never done anal. Now I know people are shocked by that. I'm pretty shocked by that. They're like this freaky bitch. I'm like, I'm all talk.
Starting point is 01:03:36 All talk. This freaky bitch who used to be a Jersey tracer and you're like, that's anal. Hey, that's exit only for some people. And that's fine. I just know what happens. I know what happens with it after a cup of coffee and a smack at the end. You know what you're right.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And listen, I don't even want to be in it. I don't like it, but I've done it. Hey, no shame. People let me have a double a double beer. So you're so. So you won't do double anal for. No, no. No, do you have a new one for today? Another new one? Yeah. So you won't do double anal for, you got it.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Nope, do you have a new one for today? Another new one? Yeah. I will never drive Uber in LA for. Love, for love, okay. Wow, neither. That was so deep. Law goes, wow.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I would do anything for love, but I would do anything for love and almost anything for money, but I would do anything for love and almost anything for money, but I would never work at Sur again. Same. Same. Oh my gosh, there's so much. I probably wouldn't do anything for love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Lala's so jaded right now. Right now. Lala's so low on that. Lala's so low on that. Right. Well, what I do. Now, the enough. I'm so happy on my own right now.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Like, I'm just like living the dream. I'm so happy on my own right now. Like I'm just like living the dream. I'm filthy and disgusting and bad. I make a plate of nachos, eat it in the bed with the dream on. Like I'm fucking living the dream. I do that too and like, she does it right next to me. Oh, that is love. Looks not you're all that huffed him,
Starting point is 01:05:01 but still like we get a little stoned at night and then we wake up and he's like, they're chip crumbs in the bed. I'm like, we get a little stoned at night and then we wake up and he's like, babe, there's chip crumbs in the bed. I'm like, well, just wash the sheans. It's fine. I'm gonna get you a hand back. It'll save your life with the crumbs in the back. Okay, thanks for having me on your pie.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Okay, thanks for being on you guys. We love you, follow Lala, you know what to do. Just do all the stuff by all of our stuff and just be a fucking, be that person. All right, we'll talk to you guys next week, bye. All right, thanks Lala. Make. Alright, thanks, Lola. Make sure to follow us on social media. You can follow me on all platforms at Kristen Dodie
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