Sex With Emily - Best Of: Charm Her Pants Off with Jordan Harbinger

Episode Date: November 18, 2015

On today’s Best Of podcast from 2013, Emily talks sexual confidence and charm with dating coach and Art of Charm co-founder Jordan Harbinger. From discovering your own self-assuredness to finding the courage to approach that woman at the bar to making a stellar first impression, Jordan gives step by step advice to help you blossom into the ladies’ man you always knew you could be. He also breaks down some of the worst first-date faux-pas. How much touching is too much touching? Do you HAVE to pay for everything? To sext or not to sext?If you’re interested in locating your missing sex appeal, then this classic podcast is definitely the one to revisit. With the right tools and the right mindset, every man has the ability to charm a lady’s pants off, and that’s exactly what this show has to offer. Tune in! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You will be better in bed. That's all I'm saying. That's why we're listening to the show. So if that's what you want, think go to our website, sexelmy.com, fell me in Twitter, sexual, Emily, Instagram, Facebook, all that stuff. I'm very excited for tonight's show. My guest is Jordan Harbinger from the Art of Charm. He's got, we've doing podcasts. I don't think to consider your competitor, but they're top podcasts up there in iTunes. Yeah, that's true. You know, it's funny because when we first started our show seven plus years ago, I was like, who's this chick sex with Emily who's like, way up in the ranks. Like, I want to email this person.

I did and you replied like three years later. I know. I'm so sorry. I really have an email management issue. Yeah. And I'm really sorry, but now we've become good friends. Now we're going to get into our antics in a minute because I've got like so many questions because all I'm going to say because I I'm also gonna talk to Anderson here.

Anderson is looking very diligently at the board. Talk to me, Anderson. No, I'm looking at computer stuff. I know, but we're not. If you must not. Are you looking at porn? Everyone here in the Love Line studio as they just watch porn all the time.

We did until they took that away from us. Now we can't. They would do that. Anderson, I missed you this week because I was going to come in another night, but I had, I was in Las Vegas. What were you doing in Las Vegas? I was at a sex toy convention.

And it was very interesting because there were a lot of sex toys. Sex toys, sex products. Oh, it's called the International Laundry Show. So lots of scantily clad models, a lot of purves, a lot of purves, a lot of effed up people. Any anyone actually demonstrating how to use these toys? No, there were no live demonstrations, but I did walk around and people were demonstrating on me. But there was...

How does that work? You weren't, it's great, came out, so... Yeah, they would show my hand, the vibration on my hand, that kind of thing. I'm picturing it in the future. Yeah. We get so far off base, off our moral base, our compass that we're, old ladies walking down in the mall, and they have little kiosk.

Come here, let me show you how this vibrator works. Exactly. We hope that that happens, that would be amazing. But this, I got to bring my, bought my Emily and Tony line. So everyone knows I launched a product called Emily and Tony, and I have this amazing cream to powder formula. It's a ball cream for men called Down Under Comfort.

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And I have some for you too, George. Oh, good. I was gonna say, I definitely could use that. Okay, good. And like, compression shorts and I run and stuff. See? You can get a blowjob after you run from your girlfriend and she won't mind if you're wearing this.

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I'll leave blah, blah, blah. Men probably don't care about that much Yeah, but what I got to tell dudes is that you it has this light fresh scent and I also to the second Jordan so you could smell it And I just lie it right now. Yeah, will you hold on? I totally will I know you will you say you will but I really want you to yeah I will okay. I will this is yours down under comfort. Oh, thank you guys We're freaking out. There are these models and these tidy whiteies all day I'm, go put this down in the bathroom and they came up to me at the end of the day. And they're like, I'm not sweating. I'm fresh because the scent is really like it's a light thing. And you don't sweat. It's okay. And it's counterintuitive. Right. Because like you don't

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Right. Right. And we're going to get into that and all that soon. If I was a pickup artist, I'd have some like cool guy thing to say about like, he wouldn't touch my butt. Like I'd have some like weak ass banter You didn't but we're also friends right that's true. So if we weren't friends would you've asked me to touch your balls? No, I wouldn't I mean there's some Some kind of guys are so corny like they would have had some like ooh would take them to touch my balls

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Who? Morbally obese people with folds. Dude, yeah. Oh, yeah. I need it. Yeah, totally. Any folds. Anywhere you sweat.

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Find a fold and freshen it. Find a fold and freshen it. That's so good. Jordan's also a U of M graduate, University of Michigan graduate like myself. So we're really smart. If we talk over your heads tonight, I'm sorry, just grab it.

You have my have to go to into addiction area or something and check it out because we're pretty friggin smart people. So, okay, Jordan, some things I have to ask you. This is the thing. Well, first tell me about the artofcharm.com. Sure, so first of all, we have 210 hours of audio on there at theartofcharm.com slash podcast,

there's a podcast there, and we release every week. So a lot of its personal growth for men. So we've had you on there, talking about sex, we've had a million different dating episodes on there that are all not just guys ranting, but we talk about body language vocal tonality, eye contact, touch, trust. I've gotten, you know, spies and all kinds of cool, like entrepreneurs on there. And people talking about like real deal, practical stuff that guys can apply and it's all free.

And then what we do at the Art of Charms, we run week long live-in programs. So that means that guys from all over the world, like right now I've got like two Australians, a guy from the UK, Canadians, and nobody's even from LA or California. They're all at the place right now. We have a training facility in LA. Canadians need help, they're kind of born. It's getting, I love all my Canadian listeners.

Anderson, are you Canadian? It's a joke. No, I'm kidding, I'm from Michigan. We always have Canadians near right there. That's true, well basically. I was camp in Canada, I love them. We're I'm from Michigan. We always had Canadians near right there. That's true. I was a camp in Canada. I love them.

We're basically from Michigan. We're basically Canadians with shitty healthcare. Exactly. And guns. And guns. Right. And guns and bad healthcare. And so the guys come from all over the world and it's a 60 hour program.

So it's six days, seven days, essentially. We train guys and there's drills, exercises. We train everything from body language that we sit, stand, walk, talk to, generating trust, like master the first few minutes of an interaction and learn how to connect with women and get really deep. And a lot of guys take it for business purposes because they're like, I'm an entrepreneur but I'm hitting a ceiling. I need to learn how to network like a fucking boss. So they'll come to us and even if they're like married and they're like, I need to learn how to network. Wow, so you really expanded, it's not just guys who want to get into a relationship with women. That's how I started though. Cause when I was in law school, I was like, I

went to this law firm and I realized that the partners that made the most money and were never in the office, they were always the same people. And I was like, how come this guy's never in the office, but he makes the most money. And cause like you kind of find that out through a lot of mouth. And I would talk to them and I'd be like, how come you're able to bring in all the business? They bring in business, that's why they make more money. And they're like, yeah, go to Jiu Jitsu, I play golf,

I belong to a country club, I volunteer at this, that and the other thing. And I'm like, so basically you're just like, schmoozing and being cool and everyone loves you so that when you get wind of a new deal because you're hanging out in like a freaking finish sauna with like some eye bankers, they're like, oh yeah, we need somebody to do this real estate deal. And he's like, oh, I'm the man for that. Like, oh, yeah, sure, we're still on for squash tomorrow. And they throw him like a million dollars in

business. And he's like, yeah, I'll take my commission on that. And that adds 200 Gs to his, you know, coffee. That's so smart like an hour. So then you learned how to become more of that guy, the network. It wasn't your natural skill. No, I used to be really shy and quiet and I'm not at all now. Like people who know me now are like what's, and people who've known me back then,

like my old college roommates, they constantly say things like, dude, you're a totally different person. Like is this, how did you, so how, okay, so you're a great, you're a poster child for your own product. You're your own brand. 100%.

You were that guy, you were that guy that wasn't confident with women that wasn't confident talking, and it's like what I tell guys, like you got to build confidence, but that seems to me like I just want to. It's like saying get taller. Yeah, or it's like saying tell people when they tell me to focus.

I'm like okay, like if I couldn't vote, I would focus, I could. No, but yeah, exactly. So focus, whatever I would. Get richer, damn it. That anyone know about this money price. Yeah, it's like get taller, whatever. But how do you, so break it down for me? Like, because women, what we say the number one thing is the guys confident, the guy who's confident, the guy who's confident, where do you start with these guys who are just shy and they've never given an example. So a lot of people have situational confidence and we'll start from there. So like, say there's a guy who's like, he's an entrepreneur or something like that or he's

like an attorney or a doctor. He's in the ER, he's like on point, knows his shit. We can help translate that confidence from where he is situational and help him become more confident in an area where he's weak. And that's huge. So for example, we'll have him, we'll really do like a full analysis of like this guy in the ER. How is he behaving?

Why is he behaving that way? And he's like on point, right? He's an ER doc. How does he like role plays before you? Are you going to do that? We'll do that too. And then we'll be like, okay, now talk to our female instructor. And it's like his body language goes like,

you know, and you're like, do you see why? This is different. So we change his body language, we give him some little tricks and tactics to make things easier, we videotape him doing it so that we can show where he, we can show him where he's screwing up. Because if we just tell you,

you're like, okay, stand up straight, okay, got it. We write it down in notebook, you never look at it. If you see yourself like all like crinkled up and hunched over like, like freaking Nokia, like little pop puppet guy, you're gonna be like wow I look like that then we fix something you do it again we fix something else you do it again we fix something else you do it again till then you're like oh I look pretty fucking good on video now at the end of the first couple days

that's amazing then we take you out to a bar or club and then you're like holy shit I'm getting so much positive feedback now from women because they're not going, wow, you seem confident. They're just like laughing at all the crap that you say. Exactly. You know? And so if you don't have situational confidence and we have like quote unquote, no starting point, all we do then is we go, okay, you don't have anything that you can sort of mentally grab onto.

We're just going to start from scratch. So we'll take away all of the like negative mindsets that guys have like, oh, women are only after money or like, I'm not tall enough to get the girls I want. I'm a little overweight. Women don't find me attractive. We go through a really kind of brutal process in the beginning. You're not going to like cry. We don't yell at you. But it's just like, you have to face your own ego a lot and it sucks because guys don't like to face their people. There be two. No, not at all. So then how do you break it down? We break it down big time for guys. We make them approach female instructors.

We videotape them, like I said before. We do a lot of role play type situations where you deal with difficult people who are really not going to give you your way. We teach you how to generate trust through touch and eye contact and things like that. And that works really well. And then through field work where we take you out

during the day and at night, guys who are like terrified of talking to women, they start to open up because what they are, we help them do it. We give them a starting point and a skill set and little baby steps. And once they do those baby steps, the women are like, they're giving them these positive feedback where they'll be like laughing.

And we have guys come up and I can quote a million things where a guy goes, I've never had women respond to me in this way before and this is the first day of the day of the week. Like what's going on? The first time in the life. Because it's so true that women date the guys, like all the guys I've dated are clearly the guys

who have had confidence to come up to me. Not to me. So there's a bunch of really nice guys. I'm sure that I'm not dating because they just have fear about talking to me. Talking to women. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm like, I should just, I mean, I should go talk to that.

I never approach men. But why, but it's not your job. It's not your job as a girl. I know. I know. I just feel like maybe that's where all the good guys are. It is because you're all the guys not talking to me. But I'd be bored.

How unattractive is that when you're leading? So one of the things we teach is leading, right? So the the girl will go Well, that's why girls go only the guys that approach me are all gross Well, yeah because the guys who are super socially unaware They have like delusional confidence or the guys who are quote unquote confident in that way because they're used to like women Falling for their crap they'll approach but girls are like you where are all the good guys

They're in the corner freaking out because you're hot right and they don't want to get rejected because it would mean the world It would fuck them up for like weeks, but you teach them that it's not so bad It's not so bad We teach you to steal yourself a little bit and just to not internalize it because rejection happens like I mean I went out with a girl like two weeks before I met my girlfriend and she was like, no, but I was like, oh well, whatever, I'm good. Like, it was fine. But I remember years ago doing that and being like,

I hate this, the sucks, it's not working. But I didn't have anybody to be like, dude, this is totally normal. Right, fine, like, rejections are part of life. It's part of life. You can reject it a hundred times, it's okay. Just do it. Because people call in all the time,

yeah, they're just like, I don't even know where to start. How do I, yeah, so just practicing, practicing, practicing, taking winter courses, art of charm, that would be amazing. Okay, Anderson, how are you with the checks before you got married and all that? I'm fine, I'm all right. I never approached them though, I was waiting for them to come to me,

so you and I would never have been there. No, we never would have met. And we could be together. We totally could be doing it right now. But that would be amazing. So sad that didn't work out. Jordan, last week, Emily and I were talking, and she was talking about how she hasn't had sex

in a long time. And I let her know that if we were on a date, or if we're at a bar casually talking, I would take that as a come on. You agree? Yeah. Yeah, right? But it was, we were on my radio show.

I know, I'm not saying you actually were. I'm just saying that if you're out in the real world, you did that careful. Yeah, it is interesting how women, how guys read women's signals so different than you're right. Did I really say that in sex and world? It was like, how long has it been? A few weeks, for me, that's a while.

I think you're promoting your sex toys. So there's a good good reason for it. I wouldn't lie. I don't know. I'd be like, I'm still, oh, I've got some sex toys. I got all these new stuff. Quick question while we're talking about sex toys. I know we're all over the place. But yeah, I always still, oh, I've got some sex toys. I got all these new stuff. Quick question while we're talking about sex toys. I know we're all over the place, but yeah, I always,

I always, yeah, we all are, yeah. Glass in the ass. Why do they always use glass for sex toys for the butt? I'm so glad that we asked this. They don't, they don't, they don't. That is terrifying. Did you see my Instagram with the Hello Kitty butt plugs? Is that why you're asking me that?

No, but that seems childlike. They're, they're glass. They're, they're glass. They're glass. I mean, where do I get those? They're glass. They're glass. Hello Kitty butt plugs. I mean, there were literally thousands of butt plugs at the show.

And my Hello Kitty ones, I posted, you got to go to my Instagram because there's some hilarious photos from the show. But they're glass because they say clean. You can freeze them. You can heat them. You can do all these different things to them. It's just a good solid material rather than putting plastic in your butt. You can freeze something and then stick it in your butt.

Yeah, if you want that sensation, people like to do that with the glass. They want a boy, they want a hat. Oh, look at the one stick. And it doesn't stick on the handle. Yeah, exactly. And it stays clean. But there are some really, and then there was a butt plug too that had a magnet. So this one was a glass butt plug with a magnet.

And the magnet was connected to a rabbit's tail, like a fur, piece of fur. So if you stuck the butt plug in, you would look like you had a tail. That's hilarious. And then you could pull the fur off, like a playmate. So I was like a bunny and I was, but I didn't stick it in my butt

because I was in the middle of it. What the hell, a kitty one, was it pink? It was, no, it was head little diamonds. Hell, a kitty was like in a little like a rhinestones, you know? It wasn't like real. So the end of it has the kitty, guys. I think it's called bling your booty. Is the name of the company.

That's so funny. Yeah, check it out on Instagram. Sex with family, hilarious. Okay. Or at the end of the civilization, I think. We're about to learn. Oh my God, you should see the things that I saw. This is the end of the mora.

And it's what? Sodam and Gomorrah. I know, seriously. I mean, I could tell you some of the things that I saw. I saw them in Gamora. And it's what? Sodam in Gamora. I know, seriously. I mean, I could tell you some of the things that I saw that really like blew my mind. The butt plugs were definitely a highlight. There was a lot of whips and chains and stuff.

I got a lot of good new like bondage gear, but I don't really have anyone to use it with this moment. Although I am doing my mat going on some match dates next week, I am actually going on them You're gonna freak out these do you got to ease into that stuff. You can't be like so I do a sex talk And guys are gonna be like there you're gonna be like sweet. Let's go home right now. They're gonna be like check please Yeah, don't let them know how do I how do I avoid? What do I do a radio but that's what the public? No, but then they're gonna be like listening like I had a guy

When I date with actually a three dates last week, so it's not like but I didn't have saxony of them But the point is It's like but but plugs with exactly. I'm like would you mind sticking this butt plug in? I went on dates and and they one of them listened to the entire love line when I was on last week and a few weeks ago before the day and I just That's not fair. So how do you use a fake name? I have to use a fake team name. I met but you someone helped me write my probably. Do you

do you write profiles for evil? I know but my friend does. My buddy does. He'd like does it professionally. Okay, that's what I need. So I have learned but it's I don't think it's really working so I have to do it again. But um yeah, so I'm going to be reporting on that next week for sure. But let's

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Okay, Jordan, so we got into some stuff that you teach me. But first, I have to back up and ask you about, so now you're a stud, and you weren't always a stud, apparently. But now you have a girlfriend. And you and I have become closer, because now I moved to LA. Yeah.

You know, we're bodies, we're kind of neighbors-ish. And I have a have a garage full of sex toys as you know and Jordan was going on a trip to Vegas with his girlfriend And I said come over I'm gonna put together a little care package for you and by little care Patrick package I think it was like two shopping bags. It's a good double bag full of which by the way TSA checks every time because I always fly But she's in Cupertino so I fly back and forth a lot to hang out with her. She's moving to LA next week. But yeah, I know. So you'll finally meet her. But so I'm always flying with this stuff and I've got like a frickin spreader bar, like vibrators. That's from sports sheets. Yes, sports sheets of vibrator from Jimmy Jane, Jimmy Jane, which is awesome, by the way. She loved that one. Yes. Oh, I gave her the form five, the form, the tongue. The tongue, the tongue.

Form five. Form two, or the form three. I can't remember. Go to go to goodbibes.com and use coupon code Emily and you can get discount and all these vibrators I'm talking about. Yeah. But okay, so she liked the Jimmy Jane awesome. I love that one.

Yeah. Okay. And the spreader bar, did you use it? We keep not using it, but I've always got it. She's like, I want to try that thing, but then like, it just, you know, in the end. So a spreader bar, you use it? We keep not using it, but I've always got it. She's like, I wanna try that thing, but then like, it just, you know, in the back. So a spreader bar, it comes with four sheets, it's really cool.

It's so basically when you're having sex with her, you put the bar, she can put on her leg, so they stay spread. That's how you explain it. And she like, digs it, yeah. And the hot thing is that you said, the funny thing is that you have to do a spreader bar, and I'm like, what the hell is that?

And then I go into my garage, and there I have a spreader bar. I didn't even, and I'm like, what the hell is that? And then I go into my garage and there I have a sputter bar. I didn't even, and people are like, how did you know about that? And I'm, because I'm not like that, well, I was in before I went to your house. And then, now you're thinking. And then I'm like, what's this thing? And I have to like Google instructions for use,

but it's awesome. And she's down for whatever, like, to lay down. I found out about that through my friend who's like a professional, straight male escort. And he's like, dude, get a sputter bar. And I was like, what is that? And he's like, so here's this works. And I was like, no way. He's a professional male escort. So women pay. I mean, for your show, I mean, for your show, people pay him to just like, just regular

women pay him to sleep with them. Yeah, he's the star of the show called Jiggleos on show time. Okay. And he is, yeah, he's like based in Vegas and like women pay him and his homeboys to like. I'm gonna talk about the action of love line, which is a show that I host on Thursday nights, you can get the podcast for free on iTunes as well. But we were talking about this other night that do women really pay for sex.

Yeah. Yeah, they do. Who is his typical client, like older women? Or I don't know. No, there's a lot of of on the show, the women are all across the board. Typical clients, though, are not necessarily there are women that pay for it that you're like, what's that? Why? The thing is because it's not about the sex. It's about the seduction and these guys are pros. Literally, like they don't just go all right. Let's fuck like Their escorts like he'll take them out on a date. It's nice

He's like he tells them what they need to hear he touches them the right way Like not like second not just sexually and he'll like make them feel protected and loved and meanwhile these women who have been like married to like Shlaps don't have any game they're like damn this is how you treat a woman right so he knows what's up and I met him through my show because he used to listen to my show if that's not probably out of charm I don't know what it is that is such props for your show like he guys actually yeah like he was like this is the shit I love this and so he but he's like now I'm like calling him for like you know I'm like yo what about this and this and this so we're like talking about that stuff he's super sharp when it comes to this because now it's his job.

Before he was just like a computer program. So any guy can learn how to be good with women. Have you ever, so you have any failures in your course? No, there's the guys who fail or guys who are like coming in to make sure that they can't do this and they just need to like verify They're filling it everything else in their life. Yeah, they're guys who are like, oh, I can't do this. Why? Oh, well, I'm too busy to go out and it's like, dude, you're not too busy. You just don't want to because you'd rather feel like a comfortable failure than a guy

who's trying to do something and maybe it's not going so awesome for you like your whole life has because you're like a doctor and you can't stand it and be bad at one thing. Exactly. So exactly the perfectionist thing and they're afraid. So explain to me some other things that guys can do. If you're teaching them to go to the bar, for example, you've taught them how to get confidence and how to get the body language. But give me an example if they're walking into like, what would you tell your guys if they were wanted to meet, they see some hot chicks at the table? Like what's your approach to that? Yeah, I mean, the thing is guys make all of these weird, it doesn't even have to be perfect. Guys don't all this weird stuff, I need a good pickup line.

It's like, no you don't, girls don't give a crap. Or they're like, I'm gonna wait till she goes to the bathroom. That's all just garbage and it's all these male strategies that we come up with as amateur dudes are designed to steal us or protect us or avoid rejection, which is not a winning way to get a girl. So they're like, I don't want to talk to her in front of her friends. I'm going to wait for her to go to the bathroom. But then you go, why?

And they're like, well, if I do it in front of her friends, it would be embarrassing. And you're like, wait, for her or you if they reject you. And they're like, oh, well, both. And then it's like, ah, so basically you're just trying to avoid risk. And here's the problem. Low risk is low reward if you walked Like think about how creepy that is you're hanging out by the bathroom and you're like I've been watching you all night with your friends But now I'm waiting until you're alone and vulnerable so I can come say hi

That's what that is and guys don't think about that So if you walk up to a table full of girls and you're like hey you guys are super cute. I'm Jordan They're like holy shit. That just happened. And if one of the girls is like, you go away. The other girls almost always will one of them will catch you in like 10 minutes I'm like, I'm so sorry. My friend is just being such a bitch tonight because that doesn't happen Normal guys don't do that guys who are like, hey ladies Like can I get you guys some shots? Those are the guys that go up to the table for the girls and the girls are like Debag go away exactly. We don't want drinks even that's not even what we want like really and maybe some younger

I don't know I can buy my own drinks, but we just want you to be interesting Yeah, and especially if you handle it in like a really mature way where if the girls are like it's girls night out Instead of going whatever you guys are bitches anyway, you go. Oh, no problem I'll be around with my friends if you guys get a break later. It's love to get to know you guys better You guys it seems super fun so easy and the girls are like whoa He didn't get angry when we like told him that we were doing something He seems normal. He doesn't he doesn't like have emotional issues Because guys get when guys get rejected we fucking freak out right you're like and it's like yeah

And it's like dude calm down You they can't reject you. They don't know you they're just don't want to be approached right now It's totally fine meanwhile then they're watching you and you're like talking to these guys and you're talking to those girls And everyone's smiling and the bartenders like hey Jordan you're back. What's up man? Heart again or like you know Budweiser whatever because you know how to make friends with everyone You you didn't wait in line, they see you, maybe they don't, maybe that whole week nothing works out for you. Then you come in next week and like those girls are back there. Meanwhile, the bartender's like, oh, hey, you're that guy who did the last time and like

was nice and not a dick and like polite, you know, like you work, you work it normally and we talk a lot of, and our course about how to like make a bar your home base. Like, become a regular at a spot, get people, the door guy on your side, get the bartender to serve you first. Like, these are little things that build value in a place where me and my, my coaches, like, I don't teach all this stuff myself.

Like, my coaches and I, we would walk into a bar and it would be like St. Patrick's Day and Irish pub line of round the block We'd go to the front door and the guy would be like we'd be passing by like fuck it We're not gonna get in the guy door guy would be like Jordan a. J. What's up? Yo Go to the back door in few minutes and we'd go to the back door and let a couple like people who think they're smart would like go to the back door with us And we'd be at the back door He popped through and be like, that with you. And we're like, no, we don't know them.

And he'd be like, okay, sorry guys. And then they'd be like, what the hell, you're just gonna let those guys in? And they're like, yeah. And we'd say, why don't you be talking to them in? Just because you are that guy who's comfortable, you go in, you shake the hand,

you make friends with everyone. Yeah, like we call it, we call it mayor walking. Like mayor walking, it's true. And women find that attractive. I've had guys who always take me to places where they know everybody. Yeah, that's what they do. And it's kind of attractive. You're like, oh, you're friends, you're normal, women find that attractive. I've got guys who always take me to places where they know everybody Yeah, that's what they do and it's kind of attractive

You're like oh you a friend's your normal people like you and we like I'd like that. I don't have to wait in line Right, it's one of a million concepts that one's called social proof where if for example if I and you can just Met like roleplay this in your own play. Okay, well, it's just in your own head. Yeah, so I'm taking you out on a date. This is two separate Jordans that you met on match.com or whatever, right? One guy takes you to a place, your reservation's not ready yet, so you're like waiting and you're standing there and he's just kind of talking with you.

It's fine, he seems normal. You sit down, you have dinner and you go home. You're like, that guy was cute, he was great, whatever, it was fun. The next guy takes you somewhere, then immediately the reservation's not ready, but the guy says, like, that guy was cute, he was great, whatever, it was fun. The next guy takes you somewhere, then the immediately the reservation is not ready, but the guy says, oh, Mr. Jordan, you're back, good to see you. And you go, hey, Mike, what's going on, man?

This is my friend Emily. Oh, hi, Emily, we're gonna take care of you in just a second, we're a little backed up. No, no, don't worry, Mike, take your time. We're standing there having fun, just like waiting for our table, they bring us to a table, they're like, is this gonna be okay for you? Yeah, don't worry about it, you guys are for our table. They bring us to a table. They're like, is this going to be okay for you?

Yeah, don't worry about it. You guys are busy. We sit down, not the best table, but we're cool, right? We don't care. Right. Because they're busy and I seem laid back about it. Then they bring us something that we didn't order. Hey, try this.

The manager then comes over and says, Jordan, good to see you. Shakes my hand. I introduce you, right? Like that happens all the time when you know people and then like there's three drinks they hook you up right they ask how we know each other I say we met online they're like oh be careful this guy's a shark right like joking clearly joking the server comes by and says first rounds on me like that happens regularly how many times do I get you an alcohol it's like how often you have to go to the

bar till they know you don't even have to drink at the bar? You don't even have to drink. You don't have to be drinker, that's true. That's amazing, the social proof, I think that's totally true, and I never really broke it down like that, but for men, if I think I can't do that, I don't want to talk to people, but you have to teach those skills. We do, we teach those skills, and it becomes super fun to get treated like royalty. And here's the thing, even though those two Jordans might have been exactly as much fun, or as interesting, or as wealthy wealthy or whatever criteria you're using. You're gonna pick the guy all the other things being equal that is social proof because that says I've got connections.

I'm normal. I'm nice. I have other friends. Subconsciously, this says this guy's safe, but also exciting. Where's the other guy? Still a black box, but not really in a good way. Not exciting. Yeah, and he made me wait a wait for the table for 10 minutes longer. Right. And there's a million other little things like that. Like what? Give me another one. Another thing is body language. Like I might be really successful and really funny, but I might be nervous. So if I'm showing you that, subconsciously as a woman, you're going,

hmm, he's nervous. And it's beyond like cute nervous where it's like, oh, first date nervous. It's like something's weird where he doesn't seem like, he seems so uncomfortable that something's wrong. You start to mirror that because you're a human, mirroring is in like, you're kind of like, mm, maybe I should be on guard too. He do tend to mirror other people's body language. We don't even notice that, right?

Absolutely you will. It's a, it's a, it's a fight or flight sort of survival thing. Women do it 20 times more than guys because it's part of your, that's why women have this quote unquote intuition because you might look at somebody and you don't go, hmm, I can read his mind. Your body starts doing what their body is doing and then you start feeling gross and weird and scared.

And then you go, ugh, that guy made me feel weird. He didn't do anything. You mirrored him for a nanosecond and went, oh, I don't like that. So you showed them the right ways to breathe, Stan Tau. Absolutely. Because so many guys look down,

put their hands in the pockets, they don't make eye contact. Right. It's so funny, because I was invagaged by my assistant, and she was having fun making out with different dudes and having a good time. She's going to tell me when she listens to us, but I don't really care.

But it was funny, because I was like, well, I like this guy, and I didn't really know the guy. I was like, I liked him, because I said he made eye contact with you. He seemed really real. I suppose this other guy, for example, that was like a douchebag. It's like, you really, and I didn't really know the guy. I was like, I liked him because I said he made eye contact with you. He seemed really real. I was supposed to be this other guy, for example, that was like a douchebag. It's like, you really, and I'm like, well, what is it? I was trying to explain to him, like, why I thought, because I only met him for three

seconds. I'm like, why I thought he was a good guy? It was because he looked me in the eye. He smiled, really big smile. He just seemed confident and he just seemed solid and... Solid. It was confident. It was eye contact. It was the way he was standing, and he was asked me if I wanted to solid. And it was happening. It was that I contacted, it was the way he was standing

and he was asked me if I wanted to drink, but it was like, he was comfortable with himself. Yeah, comfortable in your own skin. It's huge. And the thing is a lot of guys are going, well, I don't want to be fake. And here's the thing, you're not being fake. You're not normally a nervous fucking wreck

when you're talking to people that you're friends with. We're teaching you how to talk to strangers like you talk to your closest friends. Exactly. That's all we're doing. We're not, guys are like, or a lot of girls who are like, I'm gonna be a harsh critic. They're like, I don't wanna get used to fake.

There's nothing fake about being confident. In fact, if you do this stuff enough, the mind follows the body and the body follows the mind. If you show confidence in your mannerisms, you start to become more confident, which allows your body to be more confident, which allows your mind to be more confident Which allows your mind to be more confident? It's a virtuous cycle and that's a good thing because then eventually you encounter situations where you're like

Oh, this is unknown and maybe dangerous and you're like, you know what? I got this whereas if you're normally a nervous fucking mess You're like this throws me off even more and I'm freaking out again You need this will help you all across the board has kind of like fake it to you make it in a way It is but that's what we all do and I'm freaking out again. You need, this will help you all across the board. It has kind of like fake it till you make it. It's fake it till you make it. It is, but that's what we all do. And I'm still faking this. I don't even know, sex.

What am I talking about? Right, you haven't had it all the time. You haven't, I haven't. I feel like for me it's like three weeks, not a long time. Okay, so I have a question. So what about sex tips? Like, does this guy's must always ask you, like, how do I escalate it from friendship?

It's just sex. So what? We spend a whole day. What are the big issues that like you think that men come, people always ask me like, what are the top questions you get asked like, what about, yeah, you have a whole day about sex in your book, yeah? Well, it's not about sex.

It's a whole day that's about touching and sexual escalation. So what that is is guys are like, well great, dates are going well. She's like laughing. And she might even be like touching my arm or like swatting at me when she, when I make like a joke or playfully teaser, but like, I don't know what to do from there. So we spend a whole day teaching a system of touch and sexual escalation. And that's not like what to do in bed. It's like, okay, you met there in the first three minutes. How do you touch and relate in the first three minutes?

Okay, now you're in a rapport or a connection phase. How do you touch and rapport? And like the connection phase, what do you do? And again, we videotape it. They practice on female instructors. The female instructors give them like actual feedback. Like, listen, your hand is lingering a little bit too long. Put it over here. This is a more comfortable spot. Or don't do this because this is uncomfortable for women. Or

this seemed way too tenuous and unnatural. Don't do that. This is so interesting. They can what right because our certain places like you always know, I just because I've been studying this for a long time and read all of whatever, but when I'm on a date with guys, I always notice when they touch me, that I always think that are they doing this, that it means something, that they're interested,

I always think, but it's like where they touch me. Like if they start touching me in uncomfortable places, too early on, like they put their hand on my waist and I just met you, like, just dating a mask, we just met, he picked me up, it was a blind date, we're walking to our feet. Put his arm around my waist like in this really uncomfortable creepy way. And then it didn't really get touching my hand. It was like too much. But then there's guys who do it lightly like maybe once or twice

of the night. And that made me feel more comfortable. Yeah. It's lightly brushed my arm or like touch my hand or like oh you know what? But it's not it wasn't creepy lingering. So you kind of teach them how to watch exactly line. She's actually had to walk the line. They really, it's really is a slippery stuff. Like you can go, it can go either right. Yeah. And we have a lot of little, like, little tricky cool things that guys can apply.

Like, for example, you know, when you're walking with a girl that you just met on a first date, do the old school thing where you put your arm out, she'll love that. Because one, guys don't do that. And two, you got to do it right. Like you lift your elbow up. She will thread her arm through the right way and then put your elbow back down onto your body.

Now you're touching her in two places. And then if things are going, like if you have to make a turn or go through a doorway where you can't both go through, slide your arm down so that her hand goes down to yours and grab her hand, not super tight or anything. And then you can walk her into the restaurant and then you can either go back up

or you can keep holding hands. That's good. Don't look at it and like make a big deal out of it and you know what you can do is you can also say like good now we're all set and you can give her hand like a little squeeze. If she squeezes back it's a huge sign of interest. If she doesn't it doesn't mean she hates me. It means nothing. Do you teach in the center what are the signs that she hates you then? You know what, short-cut answers, lack of eye contact, whipping out the phone. I mean, don't know when to whip out their phone on the day. It's obvious stuff that she's disengaged.

Right. She's kind of just waiting to get the hell out of there. But that's why we don't do dinner dates. We teach, again, we teach like appropriate first dates. Like, what is appropriate? What's your problem? I think so too. I don't want to go to a movie and sit next to a movie

where we can't like, is it? We just do your popcorn, I have to touch you, whatever. I don't want to go to movie and sit next to a movie where we can't like Is it where it's your popcorn? I've to touch you whatever. I don't know you and we're not even talking to get in each other Right not interacting like you're being entertained in a dark room That's something you do as a couple or the total putonic friend dinners also bad because you're especially for a first date Because now you're like awkwardly at this formal meal. It's really strange like you're eating Which no one looks good eating So like she's all self conscious about it and you order something that's like safe and then she's like crap Who's paying for this exactly? You're like do I pay which the answer is yes you do you guys you always pay

Yeah, there's a lot of the like the pickup artists guys like don't don't buy or anything Like I hate that fire something if you asked her out fire something you never split You have me split that I'm splitting. Yeah, I mean it's just I'm just a lead at your phone number Yeah, and it's a guy get why they don't do that because they're like I've been taking advantage of take the power back But truth be told that's just some weird crap that like that pick up guys are doing because it makes them feel powerful It doesn't work. It doesn't work at all. No, she's pissed She's like why you know, maybe some worlds are like, oh, I'll get them to pay next time or whatever,

but I'm just like, out if a guy doesn't pay. Yeah, I know. So what about texting and sexting? Well, let's first start with texting. Guy gets a woman's phone number, shitty text first or shitty call. I'm sure he'll call. I would say call, it shows a little more balls.

Here's the thing, here's, actually, it depends. If I meet a girl, say I meet a girl in a bar, we're still in the bar, I leave the bar, she's, you know, because I gotta get up in the morning or she leaves or something like that. I might text within like a few hours, like, hey Emily, great meeting you. Hope, you know, I'll call you tomorrow,

we'll set something up, sign Jordan, that way she doesn't go, who is this? Because that sucks. But it makes sense because she might be testing you she might have met three dudes none of your fucking business Anyway, you sign it so it doesn't look weird then she goes Jordan or you give her a nickname and that's what you say Oh my god guys are always talking about the nicknames give a woman a nickname right away. Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't I don't really do that, but it can be fun. Like example. It example, I mean, here's the thing.

It always goes back to sort of like callback humor. Like, I'm trying to think of an example that happened in real life to me recently, not recently, but like, you know, the past couple of years. There's like a girl who maybe like spills something on you. You know, you can be like, hey, like what's up, Clotsie mix, like sloppy pants, like good meeting you. I'm sending you my dry cleaning bill. Yeah, sending you my dry, let me know where to send

the dry cleaning bill, yeah, something like that. But like you don't have to call her Clotsie mix sloppy pants in her, in everything. Exactly. But you can totally save her number is that. And then when you call her, you know, you take a screenshot of what's on your phone And you can send that as a message and she's like, do you really save my number is it's funny?

Yeah, it's funny. So it starts that right makes it intimate so she feels like oh about this It's a kind of intimate thing. It is it won't cause you a nickname women don't even realize that you're doing it No, it's all subconscious because the people that have nicknames in your life for those that are closest to you right exactly So what about so you text them and you text them and then you call them for the first date. What are sexting? You know what? You can sext when you have been dating for a while.

I don't have a hard and fast rule with this. I would say, well, actually, you know what, that's bullshit. After you sleep with her in real life, then you can be like, hey, that was super hot. You're super foxy. Like I'm daydreaming about it. Don't do that before you have, because then it's just kind of like, you, are you trying to, like, what are you doing?

And then when we're thinking, oh, he only wants sleep with me and that could be a turn-off. So I say don't escalate it into your up-to-your-go-ther, because you're so mean, you were like, have full-on sexing before they even meet someone. And then you meet him and it's so well-scaled. And you're like, I'm not even, anyone ever fucking appetizes with him.

And I was just talking about, you know, sucking you on this text. And now it's bog well-scaled. I'm not even one of it, but it appetizes with him. And I was just talking about sucking you on this text. And now it's bogus. Right, exactly. The way that it starts, okay, I'm just gonna give it, Jenny's gonna kick my ass, but like, girlfriend. Yeah, girlfriend, she's gonna kick my ass.

The way that it started with us, I don't really remember, but it was probably something like after we'd slept together, I was like, hey, that was hot, daydreaming about it. And I think she straight up sent me a photo of her like it provoked not like gross one, but like something kind of sexy. And I was like, oh, that's how it's going to be, huh? Okay. All right.

And then I was like, boom, you know, and that's how that sort of escalated. But she let her and she started it. Yeah, well, she started that. She like took it to that level, but I'm sure that I started by being like, yo, last night was amazing. You're super hot. Like, you know, stuff like that. But that was already like we were already close.

We already like slept together a couple times. It wasn't like great meeting you last night. Can't wait to see them tit is a mouthpiece. Right. And I'm done doing that at all. Yeah, because guys do that shit. And I'm like, no wonder she doesn't want to see them tit is a my face. Right. And I'm done do that at all. Yeah, because guys do that shit. And I'm like, no wonder she doesn't want to meet you. Like the pressure's on now.

She thinks all you want is sex and she's probably right. Yeah, I had a guy that I just made, like send me some sexy photos of you. Here's one of me. I'm like, oh, delete it. I delete it. I just met you. Like we're not going.

That's what don't prematurely sexed and get into a total texting thing. So, but let's go back to the first date. So not a good idea, dinner, not a good idea, movie. What is the perfect first date? One of the things that we always say to do at the Art of Charm is to invite her to something you're already doing.

So, here's, I've broken this rule a million times, but I'll do it depending, again, like, learn the rules, master them, so then you can break them because you know when you can break them, right? I think Einstein said something like that. Or it was like Dali Lama. Yeah. One of them, so then you can break them, because you know when you can break them, right? I think Einstein said something like that. It was like, Dali Lama. Yeah.

One of them, so it's a wise, a wise mofo said that. And so like, first date with Jenny, we went to a place and we ate dinner, but I would never normally do that. Like, first date to my pastor, like, hey, I'm going to hike Runyon Canyon on Saturday. Why don't you join me? And like, she's like, whoa, and I've had girls who could show up and they're like, my friends told me not to come Because they're like what he's asking you on a hike. That's bullshit. He's cheap and she's like actually I love hiking Right, right, right, that's good. And so she showed up and she's like this person is cool, right?

and There's other times where I'm like, hey, listen, I'm going to the Dodgers game with like three of my friends, we have another ticket. Do you want to come with us? And she's like, normally, wouldn't want to be stuck with random people I just met, but I freaking love baseball and you seem cool.

Right. Because we were already talking on the phone, I've this app that called Voxer that I used to like voice message people. She looked me up on Facebook and I was like, and I even wrote, no worries. We can drive separately. If you think I'm weirdo,

you can just bounce no harder. Okay, that's good. So like, I threw it out there. So she wasn't like, so here's the thing. If ending three rolls up and she's like, there's no chemistry, she can be like, you know what, I kind of have to get going and I'm like, don't worry about it.

And she's not worried about me like, fucking sending her like death. Right, because women are worried.? I kind of have to get going and I'm like, don't worry about it and she's not worried about me like fucking sending her like death. Right, because women are worried. That's what guys have to understand is that we have a lot of, like, we have a lot of red flags to go up. So we have a lot of just barriers that can go up and dates are worried, like safety. Yeah.

We want to feel safe and we're like not sure if you're a creep or maybe we've been hurt before. You just don't know, like to go. Yeah. And I hate being trapped. Like I always want to drive on dates. Like I, at first date, like, I don't have to pick me up. Yeah, don't have somebody pick you hate being trapped. Like I always want to drive on dates. Like I, at first date, like I don't want to pick you up. Don't have somebody pick you up as a woman.

I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick me up. I've never wanted to pick you up.

I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up.

I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick you up. I've never wanted to pick don't be so like controlling and say like this or that I totally Absolutely agree with you. Those are all good stuff. First dates. Meet it a place near her place You can even offer to do that or you can offer to meet near yours Which then it makes no sense for you to pick her up and then that gives her that out there Exactly. Don't meet in between that stupid both of you have to drive neither of you know the area generally if you live like an L.A. When one lives in the same neighborhood. I know, at least hard for dating. And plus, if you guys super slam hit it off and you wanna go back and like chill,

now you're like 10 miles away from yours and 10 miles away from hers. Right, good point. This is like, I love that you have broken this down into signs of what to do and what not to do. The articharm team has spent years and there's like a shit load of us trying new stuff and being like, guys new rule, don't do this and this and this and then we'll all follow that and we're like, oh,

exceptions are like we had flow charts and spreadsheets back in the day. Oh my god. We wrote a book on texting that literally we had 15 guys sending. We had sent 3,000 text messages per month every month for a year and kept spreadsheets of what worked with different women. Oh yeah hundreds of women. Guys would die for that. Can they still buy it?

Yeah. How to text girls.com is where it is. Okay. And the best part is like Cosmo picked it up and was like none of this shit would work and then all these self aware like all these haters posted and then a bunch of like really cool self aware girls were like this would totally work on this I did this. This was me. I was sucking him Like girls are like yeah, the nickname in the book is stupid. It's like midget ninja like you know banana pants

Yeah, that's dumb, but they're like admittedly my boyfriend calls me dumb or shit than this and it works and I love it So like what most of the most of the time when women argue, oh, this would never work on me, they're just not self-aware enough to realize that it will. Exactly. They don't want to think that anything works on that. Right, yeah.

They want to think that it's not that scientific that it's chemistry, that it's something else. But like women who are not 22 that are like 30 plus, they're the ones who go, oh, thank God someone's teaching guys this shit. Yeah, teach them how to do it. Yeah. Because guys just keep messing up over and over again. Not all men, but they could take class.

They could listen to sexual belly podcasts. They can. They can do that or art a charm podcast, which you can find in iTunes. I was going to read, but first of all, I'm going to read an email from one of the papers that I think that you can help out with. But I need to ask you, Jordan, since we kind of had this ongoing thing. And I need to ask you about your kegels because I have an iPhone app called kegelcamp as you all know if you've been listening to the show.

It's an app for your iPhone that you it's for men and for women to do your exercises, you download it and every day pop you can set a timer that says time for kegel camp but I do that. People think it's for women. It's more men of email me about it. Jordan, there's twenty levels. I love you. What level are you? I'm on level 19 bitches. I you're the more men of email me about it. But Jordan, there's 20 levels. What level are you? I'm on level 19, bitches. I you're the only people have emailed me the favorite thing. I don't know anyway. So tell me how it has improved your life. It's so it's so

funny. First of all, my girlfriend and our competitive. So she's like, I'm almost there. We're level. She on. I you know what? She's like doing 19 with me when she's there Okay, in her car. She's doing like level like 13 or so. Okay. I'm just impressed. Don't worry. I'm not even there Okay, yeah, you know, I mean, I'm just a thing like it's hard now like levels till 10 I was like, Meh, this is not that bad I was like cruising doing it three times a day now I do it once a day and I'm like, oh my god When is this how long do you hold them for a level 19? It's like 38 seconds Yeah, exactly and you're like dude oh my God, when is this over? How long do you hold them for? I love a 19. It's like 38 seconds and you're like, dude,

and you have to do like nine of them. So you're holding this, holding this, holding this, holding this, you like, I gotta remember to breathe and stuff. I have to breathe. And I didn't before, before I was like, whatever, I have to remember to breathe. Now, when your guidance thinks as a remember to breathe, I'm like, 38 seconds, holding on.

That's crazy. Yeah, and it's awesome because I'll tell you. Tell me how it's improved your sex life though. Not only. How it's of impact in your life life not only can I go a lot longer But I can get to that point where I'm like on the brink and I can be like nope. I'm shutting it down And it's like Hoover Dam just slam shut and you're like boom and you don't feel because until you do until you have really strong PC muscles you kind of can't really control

ejaculation which is a huge problem for so many men, they're like thinking about baseball. And then now if you should the PC muscles are basically what we're talking about, are those peace-stopping muscles. So when you stop and start to flow of urine, and that's what you tense and relax for five minutes a day. Jordan's doing it for it. It's insane. I'm so glad because when we launched it, it was only 10 levels and then all these people email me like I've gotten to level 10. So I love it. I need more, yeah, 20 to 30 now. Okay, so tell me what anything else or sex and how about your girlfriend?

How is it in past? She's like, holy crap, this is amazing. And also, I'm not gonna, like this is TMI, but it's your show about sex. Right. When I get, like when I used to like get like a rouse or whatever, I'd be like, oh, I've got a little bit of a boner.

Now I'm like, oh my God, I have to like go and fix this, like by talking it in the waistband, like I'm 15, because it's so freaking hard. Because of the piece you're piece of work. Yeah, absolutely. Like the pump or whatever I'm working on. Because you're like 30, how old are you? 33, so you're not like a, so you see a market difference.

You should be my spokesperson. I will be. For Kyle Camp, because literally your boners are harder and stronger now. So much harder. I'm dying, can you take a picture? Just kidding, but really, with the my ball, I'll show it. That's amazing. That's the thing I'm dying. Can you take a picture? Just kidding, but really, with the my ball,

ocean on it, that's amazing. That's the thing I'm telling you is like, you know, there's a pump or whatever. I'm done. I'm just telling you to do it too. Like I'm at the only one. Like it's not like I'm saying they're good for you. Everyone says they're good for you.

It works. It works. And it's like, now I feel like I've got like teenage boners again. And I'm like, holy shit. Cause it's like whatever is used to, is used to fill it up. Like the muscles and then that do it are so strong now that it's like boom like it's like it's potent

that's amazing because I've heard so many guys and I've I've actually witnessed this with men as they get older they just don't have that teenage erection anymore you don't you can obviously don't you can literally hang a towel from my bone or now you can oh my god please send a picture of towel for the runner I want to share that is amazing so i just because jordan like more randomly sent me text of like screenshot of like eleven nineteen and i'm not not of my not a boner but of of his kegel camp so i don't want to check it out i'm talking about a few years

but now here's a man that can tell you that it really works and i know people are are going or whatever i do my kiggles at red lights know you fucking don't you talk about it and you don't remember to do it. It's $2 or something like Three bucks. Yeah, it's an app. Yeah, it's a $2 app that will change your life. Okay, change your sex life. Okay, so we have time for an email and then we're going to Have to say goodbye to you, which is really sad because you're gonna come back. Hi Emily I've just listened to your podcast show for the first time in the UK. I'm a sporty 26 year old guy who likes to party and Socialize with my friends,

but unfortunately I can't seem to get laid in nearly over a year. I meet and get with girls in clubs, et cetera, get their numbers and start texting, but then nothing seems to develop. Is it something I'm doing wrong or can you advise how I can get this sorted out or is it just bad timing? Please to hear from you soon, Edward. Okay, so this is tough because, and I I'm gonna be as fast as I can. This is tough because there's not enough info here. And that's okay. Guys always go, oh, I'm getting stuck here.

It's like, no, you're not. You think you're getting stuck there, but that's kind of like saying, why are you sick? Oh, because I have a sneeze and a cough and my throat hurts. This is not why you're sick. It's not what you have, it's symptom. So like, women aren't answering your texts. Well, if you're

meeting girls at a club, maybe they're giving you the number, maybe they're enthusiastic about it, or maybe they're trying to get rid of you, we don't know. Right. Two, if they are giving you the number and they're like, cool, call me and you're texting, well, now they're like, what's up with this guy? And also, what are you texting? Because if you're like, most guys, you're texting, hey, what's up? How is your day? And that's like, I'm not going to answer this shit because it's not compelling. Exactly.

So guys, this guy just asked me out and he sent me this text like, yeah, I've had a really long week at work. So I kind of got a weird schedule doing what I do for a living. Period, that was a text. I'm like, you gave me nothing. I'm so bored.

I even forgot who you are. And I'm gonna delete your number. Like guys have to be more provocative during your time. It needs to compel a response. Also, you should just call. And and the other problem is here's the thing You're meeting a girl in a bar in a club. It's like in lights She's like in party mode. She's had three drinks

Then would you send that lame ass text the next day? She's fucking ironing and doing laundry So she's like and she just had a fight with her mom exactly so she's like I don't feel like dealing with this Like you catch her in this emotional state when you get her number, and then she is in a different emotional state when you send her like a lame, non-compelling thing. The problem is we always filter communication in our own emotional state, and that's why you can say something to your girlfriend like,

hey, are you still screwing around on Facebook and you're like, fuck you! And you're like, what happened? Right, exactly. Because she's pissed about something else, but she filtered that as you being a dick. So like, you're, he's probably screwing it up there, he's probably screwing it up in the timing,

he's probably screwing it up the fact that he needs to call and the logistics aren't there. Texting is not for saying, hey, what's up? Yeah, it's for like, Hey, one nice meeting you. Yeah, no, that's like, you can do that that night, then call the next day and be like, hey, super cool meeting you.

I'm going out again to this place. Why don't you come with us? Bring your girls, I'll bring some of my friends. Now you're in a group thing because she doesn't know you. She met you in a club, the safety factor's not there. She doesn't know anything about you. You thought each other was hot last night at 4 a.m. That means nothing.

Exactly. She's gonna go back there and get hit on by 50 more dudes. So he's probably a totally a normal cool guy. He's just not, he's not fishing right. He's not fishing right now. Okay, so everything I think Jordan has said this entire hour will probably help you out of this, but thank you for helping us with Out of Work.

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