Sex With Emily - Episode 339 - Kinky
Episode Date: November 19, 2011Adult film star Pony from Kink, says she’ll try everything twice. Emily and Pony talk about polyamorous relationships, BDSM for beginners, getting shocked by tasers for pleasure (not for resisting a...rrest), and Divine Bitches. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Look into his eyes
They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex
Eyes that block our secret institutions
Betrubized they call them in a bygone way hey, Emily
You got a boyfriend because my man E here. He just got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute
The girls got a hair stand. Oh my the women know about shrinkage. Isn't it common all the way?
What do you mean like laundry?
It's shrink?
Can we not talk about sex so much?
Are you kidding me?
Oh my god.
I'm so, so, so.
Being bad feels pretty good.
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show. We've got a special guest here.
Pony Gold. Hi, Pony.
Hi. How are you?
Good. Okay, I got to tell you about Pony. Hi Pony. How are you? Good.
Okay, I got to tell you about Pony.
So Pony was on my second show about six years ago
because you knew so much about sex and sex
and dating and love and all that stuff.
And we talked about, I remember talking about anal sex
with you in particular, but today, Pony has been doing
amazing things since I've seen you last. You are a videographer of pornography.
Right.
All right. So we're going to get into everything that you've seen, that you've done, that
you've witnessed. She's a photographer. She's done amazing photography that we're going
to get into in a minute. For taboo. What is it? It's taboo hustler.
It's hustler taboo magazine.
Hustler taboo magazine.
These are the hottest photos. And I'm just so glad you're here today.
So thanks for joining me.
Thanks for having me, gosh, it's just, this is amazing.
I mean, we've come such a long way.
I know.
I know.
I know.
It's just, you know, it's good to meet with an old friend.
It is exciting.
I know, I love it.
I've been catching up on everything.
Let's catch up on everything.
So first when you were on the show,
I remember you used to work at a sex toy shop, right?
Like years ago.
And then I was like, wow, that's so good.
I didn't do anything.
I was like, I mean, I've come a long way.
You can't believe what I've done
since we've signed to the last 60, you know,
since we started six years ago.
But so now you work as a, if kink.com,
which many people know, talk to me a little about kink.com
if people don't know what it is.
Kink.com is a very, just, we make BDSM pornography.
It's amazing.
It's the most beautiful porn out there, I would say.
Like it was the most beautiful.
What is BDSM porn?
People who don't know what that is.
Bondage, say, doh, masochism,
which is like, you know, whips and chains and floppers.
And all the, you know we we actually have a
really wide range of fetishes we have about like 20 different websites and
all cater to different fetishes all around as well as some little more
vanilla than others you know we cater to everyone so it's awesome what are
some of the fetish sites some of them whatever some of our most popular ones
are fucking machines dot com machines dot machines.com, I've heard of that yet.
Which is the lone lady and the big hunk of metal poundinger.
It's really, really, really hot website.
That's so hot, okay.
We also have public disgrace.com, which is a public website.
We go to different venues and bars and restaurants all around San Francisco and Europe.
They do Euro tours.
Wow.
Where they, it's about public humiliation and it's just a lot of fun.
A lot of fun.
So what kind of stuff do you shoot?
Well, what I'm shooting right now is I'm shooting for a website called Wired Pussy.
It's like a, it's a FEMDOM lesbian website revolving around electrical play.
Electrical play.
Yeah, electricity.
There's different, there's a slew of different toys out there
with that can just shock you in different ways.
Have you ever been shocked?
Yes.
And how does it feel?
Lovely.
Really?
So do you incorporate this stuff into your own sex life?
I have.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I mean, working for the website,
you want to know what are these what are these amazing women going through because for one thing electricity
Is is a huge you know we grow up learning that it's it's dangerous right and that you shouldn't play with it and so this and no in fact
We there are there are certain safety rules we have to abide by which we do do. But all in all, the toys that we play with
are manufactured for this purpose.
Okay, they're manufactured for sex place.
So what are they like?
They absolutely are.
What are they, they're like,
what are they like tasers or something?
We do play with tasers.
Okay.
That's so hot.
Oh my God.
You know what though?
And what I really love about Wired 2
is that there aren't any marks.
You know, it's rare that you have a lot of models come in.
You know, they shoot the next day,
they have a shoot the next week
and they can't have any heavy marks,
but this kind of like gives you that taste of pain
that you've been wanting and pleasure.
I don't know that I've been wanting it.
Do you think I want it
and I don't know that I want the pain?
I'm not saying that.
Okay, it's up to you.
But it had to explain to me how it works.
So walk me through, walk me through one of your shoots.
Like how long, how long are the videos that work, pussy?
We shoot about three scenes, about 20 minutes you see.
And it's just a woman being like, is it guide
or another woman doing it?
It's a female female.
Female female.
It's all right, let's be in family time.
Let's be in family time.
Okay, so are they chuck shocking them each other the whole time
or is it one person getting shocked
and the other person?
So how does it work?
Well, no, it's mainly just like one person
is a submissive and the other is a DOM
and basically the DOM uses different electrical instruments
on the submissive.
And sometimes there's a story,
sometimes there isn't,
sometimes it's just like just
get right into it, you know.
And the women that we work with on this site are experienced and really enjoy this, like
they're really into it and love it.
Some of them are some of them are newbies that are just really curious and they've never
tried it before.
That I think is the most fun.
Really.
So they're really on camera having their first
shocking, literally shocking, shocking
and there's different toys, you know, and they range,
like they're adjustable, so, you know, you don't have to
like, shot the shot at someone right away.
I mean, it's very sensual.
It's very like they incorporate, you know, the play
with the electricity.
Oh, okay.
I got to check it out.
You got to give me a log in.
Oh, I guess I could join.
Okay, so how did you get into this?
Well, as you know, me,
I've been kind of involved for a long time.
In the sex world, right?
Yeah, and I've just kind of found the home, I suppose.
I do love it.
I do love it.
We can't wait, because because King is the armory building
Which is this amazing building in San Francisco that has like all these different rooms, right?
Like feta's room. Oh my god. There's it's a job. I'm gonna have a hard time. We go. Yeah, I can't wait to go
Yeah, okay cool
So what have you learned about your own sexuality? You think by shooting this stuff by shooting pornography?
Well, I mean you know you've known a lot so so you must have
You must know that more because you were teaching me stuff six years ago.
Yeah.
Well, I guess I've just learned more techniques
and more, I've opened my mind a lot more
to different venues and different ways.
Like what, like what kind of stuff?
Well, electricity for one.
And that's the thing that, you know,
I was working this website for a while
and then I realized, gosh,
I don't know what these women are actually going through. So I want to feel it. I want
to know what it's like. And it's really cool. I mean, we have so many different instruments
and they all feel different. And one of my some of my favorite things are there's these
little sticky pads. And I don't know if you've ever been to physical therapy before,
but like they sometimes use these black sticky pads
that they'll put on your muscles and it contracts the muscle
and it kind of helps you through.
It can kind of melt away knots in the muscle.
Okay.
Things like that.
So when we play with them though,
we just put them on more, a little more sensitive areas.
You know, like between your thighs and like,
right on your pubic bone,
where it hits your G spot.
And so does it bring you to orgasm?
Some instruments can.
Yeah, there's this one called the samurai,
where it's like an electrified dildo, basically.
It's like a big metal dildo.
And actually, we have different sizes.
Right. But, and what that does is it it contracts the vaginal muscles as if you were having an
orgasm. So when you naturally have an orgasm your muscles tighten up.
Right. This tightens your muscles for you. Wow. And that incorporated with like a vibrator on
the clitoris is just like I want to like one of the go back with you to the office.
You're the choice.
That is so hot.
I can't do that.
I feel like I should try everything.
It's so exciting.
I mean, it's really exciting to me.
I think it's just so.
Is it ever too much pain for someone though?
I never like that's too much.
I can't.
It's not even sexual at that point.
No, I think a lot of people do purposefully know, purposefully push their limits and that's kind
of the whole purpose of the game is to see how far you can go.
Right, exactly.
How much can you take?
I've never done that.
Like, I want to just be tied up at this point.
Like, I just want, like, I want to start with the basics.
Yeah, and then all the purposes is not to break the person.
It is to like have fun and have pleasure and there's a lot of pleasure involved.
So, but, you know, we, like,, we are BDSM and that is the realm
that we work with in and so on.
Like all the videos are BDSM.
Like I know the one, what's the one called
when they, the two women are wrestling
and then one, ultimate surrender.
Ultimate surrender.
Yeah.
I wanna watch one of those.
Those are good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good
life-shet. Those are good, good, they want like in the wrestling match you know they have
live shows for that yeah I mean you know what I mean absolutely I was a free
show okay if you don't have to pay to go you just have to contact the website
and contact the producer involved in I think if you go to audience at kink.com
okay you can apply for any,
because we do do live shows for public disgrace,
which is a lot of fun.
Okay.
And that is actually another website.
I've been working for.
What is public disgrace exactly?
Public disgrace is we basically just walk a girl
into a bar, a restaurant, anything.
And we just do various things.
For real, you really have to do it.
There's random people.
Yeah.
It's like what?
The general public is in fight.
Okay, so say, where did we shoot last?
We shot the knockout.
Right.
So, the knockout is a bar on mission street.
Right.
And so we walk into the bar, it's Gia de Marco.
And she's actually in this match.
Okay, we're going to show those in a minute.
Yeah, and she's lovely.
And basically, you know, they just, we have a couple people on board, you know, Princess
Donna is the director of that website.
She does a great job.
She presents the model to everyone. And basically, what I like to say is that it's a human petting zoo. You actually, this beautiful woman we brought in, you can touch her and like spank her
and whatever her. So the people who are actually sitting in the bar participate? Yeah, they do.
Wow, and that's so, really hot.
And to me, it's almost like a social experiment.
Because when I arrive on set, a lot of people are just like,
oh, I don't know if I'm gonna do anything.
Right, right, right.
I'm like, hang out over here in the corner.
But then once they kind of feel comfortable,
that's the thing, and what I really love is that we make people feel comfortable
with their own sexuality.
Right.
They see what's going on.
They know the model is okay with it.
The model is like, the model what I love the most
is has all the power.
She looks like she's submissive
and that she's doing things for other people.
But in reality, she at any time can say,
I don't like that. we encourage them to do so.
And we're watching over them the whole time,
making sure that they're happy,
and things are going the way that they want them to.
It's like, you can live your ultimate fantasy
through us knowing that it's like,
can anyone know?
Can anyone do?
What do you mean anyone?
Like you guys take all models off.
What do you guys take all the time? What do you guys take all the time? What do you guys take all the time? What do you guys take all the time anyone? Like you guys take all models off. I would say you, you're beautiful.
We would obviously love to shoot you.
That would be fun, but I don't know what I would do.
I would be like.
Well, I'll also say if you would apply and be like,
Donna, I really love to do public disgrace.
And we have you on the show basically.
And you'll fill out a list of things that you don't want.
Okay, this is what I don't want.
This is what I want to happen. This is what I don't want. This is what I want to happen.
This is what I don't want to happen.
And we just like really respect you and basically how it goes.
Like we just abide by anything that you say.
What about what your advice to be for someone who wants to get into bondage and stuff?
And we're talking basic beginners because King is kind of like, he will watch every
year. What if someone's watching? I'd love to do that, but like, how do you even start?
You could start small. Like how?
I know that you've said, I know that you talked about this before.
You know, little little little little little ones, you know, just start with like small amounts of bondage,
see how you feel being tied up, see how it feels to be dominant, see how it feels to be submissive.
And you know what, you don't always have to be in bondage to experience that.
Right, exactly.
Right.
Okay, good.
So I'm just curious, because some people are like listening to this and they're like,
whoa, that's so out there.
But I kind of like, you know, to be a little like tied up or something.
Right.
So it doesn't have to be as extreme as a whole.
Exactly.
Like this is extreme.
And these are experienced people that we work with. Right. Now, we are experiencing. We know what we're doing. So it's kind of like,
to drive us at home kids, you know, sometimes. Right. We actually, I just wrote a book called
Hot Sex. And there's some models that are kink models in our book, like that, but they
become illustrated. So you can't like tell who they are, but they use some models. I
know that it also been a kink. So nice. Yeah, it's cool. I got to show I should have
brought you a copy of it.
Okay, so what would you say is,
so what else have you,
like you know, I know you know so much about sex,
but what have you learned about female sexuality?
Is there anything that you've seen pushed
or stretched the limits of women
that you've seen that really has turned you on
or that you've learned or that you could share?
Crying.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know why when you said that the first thing that came to mind was crying.
That's crying during sex.
Yeah.
Or crying during, I mean, during the websites that I work for and, you know, in general,
like, especially in BDSM, that's one thing that's really woken me up because I've kind
of always, we naturally associate crying with something negative, you know, like something wrong is happening,
or you're uncomfortable or you're not having a good time,
and one thing that I've really experienced personally,
as well as publicly is crying is like this really amazing release.
And when you're at a point where you are overwhelmed,
which is how it's kind of like, you know,
like we're supposed to like push you to your limits.
And when you get to the limit, sometimes this little button in your head that gets pushed,
it's like a subconscious thing.
Right, right.
It kind of almost for me, the times that I've cried, it almost like brings me back to being
a younger kid where you're just like, I'm in trouble.
Right, right, right, right, right. And then, the beautiful thing is too,
is when you do start to cry,
there's so much support behind you.
And there's so much like positive influence in that.
I'm like, all right, you're doing great.
Right, and, you know, and they often,
like the models that we work with
are so in tune with themselves that we are able to cry.
And that's okay.
Right, and that's really fine.
So a lot of people cry from sex after sex
or right, during orgasms or whatever.
Well, I think in a typical situation,
that's like, wow, what's going on?
Your psycho, you're weird, was going on.
I don't understand.
And that was something that I had,
yeah, it was like a little bit of judgment
before I started working for this company.
And now I realize the process of processing.
So a lot of times you're saying the models
are crying on camera.
Yeah, sometimes.
A lot of times part of their shoot, right?
And sometimes, right.
Which is, yeah, normal.
Which I think is just, it's beautiful sometimes.
Oh my god.
Because it gets them deep inside.
They're so
just inspired and they're most of the time it's like out of like, you know, you get in their head
and it's such a mental fuck.
Some of them are like, oh my God.
Wow, that's, I mean, so many people don't experience
any of this stuff in their sex life, right?
I mean, it's expanding your mind, I'd say.
Right, that's really cool.
So you shoot the scenes.
You get turned on ever when you're watching it.
Oh, absolutely.
You do?
Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't have been just like, okay.
I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't love it
if I didn't think it was hot.
Okay, and you're married, right?
And do you hook up with women yourself?
I do.
You do.
Like, women need me to work and all that stuff?
You know, at some times. Or wherever. Not really necessarily who I work with. I do, I maintain
like a really professional relationship. Right. Exactly. I don't see you in your
husband. But in my personal life, outside of work, yeah. I do. And you always have?
Have you ever started having sex in general. Wow. And you're
and with with your husband too or separate. Yeah. And both. I mean, separate. Right. And it's
totally fine. He's fine with that. It is good. You know, it's a case per case basis. It's
negotiable. Like any relationships. Sometimes you feel a little threatened by one person or another.
Right. Right. Right. You have to have really honest, open communication.
Mm-hmm. Absolutely. So what would you say? So if you've been with women and you perform
oral sex, would you be like good oral sex tips that you can share with women? Yeah.
Like what do you think guys are still learning? Come on, but what would be something that
you're like, why don't Marry will do this? So this is just a good tip that comes to
you. I confess to you really. So I'm a woman, right? And I have a vagina and all.
But I still feel confused sometimes.
Yeah, I know me too.
Do you like when you're down there
and you're just like, does she like this?
Is like sometimes communication
isn't really all that fabulous?
Right.
You have to communicate what you like.
I guess you kind of do.
And I have to admit that I do get confused still.
Right.
Yeah, that's confusing. I'm going down on the lady and I don't know. So gosh, you feel better that do get confused still. Right, yeah, I'm just confusing.
I'm going down on the lady and I don't know.
So guys should feel better that women get confused
by a giant stick.
Absolutely.
Like, you're not the only ones
you get confused by a giant stick.
And then too, you know, sometimes I'm like,
is he like this?
I mean, I'm just like, I'm trying to be perceptive,
but mostly it's, I do have some confusion.
I'm just like, there's a lot going on down there.
It's not everyone who's different.
What about when you're performing all sex in a man?
Yeah, I think the general you know for me a general rule from when I am in the process is like just take it slow
Yes, and then just feel it out. I always tell everyone slow down
You I always tell guys like you should go five times slower than you think you should yeah
Yeah, it's not speed up. Yeah, and then speed up.
From there.
And then speed up.
And then so down.
Yeah.
I'm sure this is just an wonders first exercise,
but I love that you're so married and all that.
I was doing really good.
I was doing really good.
I always do, like, whatever.
But that's so cool.
And he's supportive and it's all working out.
He is really.
God, this, I am a fan of marriage.
I'm a fan of this marriage anyway.
That is so good.
We're doing really well. I'm a fan of this marriage anyway. That is so good. We're doing really well.
I'm so good.
I'm so in love.
He's my rock.
He's like, I was really nervous before today.
He took me onto lunch.
Fed me a couple glasses of wine.
You were nervous to be on my show
after you were my guest number two.
Are you getting the show?
I'm not like 300 shows.
Always, only.
It's not amazing.
I'm really, of course, I want to.
Oh my god, you're right.
That's what I was like.
Oh my god, you're going to be on my show. And I remember you were, we were, I was talking about anal sex, of course I want to. Oh my God, you're amazing. That's what I was like. Oh my God, you're going to be on my show.
And I remember you were, we were talking about anal sex
like on the second show and I was like, how do you,
how do you do a, how do you perform anal sex?
Or like what do you say?
And you're like, you're like start small.
I'm like, small penis.
And you're like, no, small finger, small thing.
And I just remember you're, you've always been so informative
and helpful on the show.
I've just always identified with that.
I've just always identified with that.
I'm like, I know, it's so good. I have to always identify with that. I have to identify with that.
It's so good.
What are some other good sex tips that you can share?
Anything.
Anything that you've seen that you've learned
doesn't have to be personal,
but just stuff that you...
Well, another thing I'm really...
Well, I don't know about tips,
but I'll tell you when I'll tell you some into.
Yeah, that's dark.
Yeah, do it.
Tell me.
Is oral sex,
like anal sex for men. I'm really in. How
do you guys are so freaked out that they're going to be seen as gay if they have a
sex? I was not in fact. I'll just tell you I did have sex with a man the other night.
And he had sex with me first and and all of a sudden he looked at me and he was like,
do you have any dildos? And I was like, what, I do, but for what?
And I also own a strap on and he's like, oh, I really love it.
If you fucked me.
And I was, I absolutely would.
Wow.
And you had, had you done it before?
Oh, yeah.
I have done it twice.
Okay.
Before on camera.
Oh, so you've been, well, I was, you know, I have my limits.
Okay. I have done it. Yeah. I have had eyes in the eyes you know, I have my limits. Okay.
I have done it.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
I have guys in the ass.
Oh my God.
So what was that like?
Amazing.
Okay.
Wow.
So much fun.
And he had he had that before?
The guy I recently was.
Yeah.
I recently was.
Yeah.
Yes.
He was.
He was obviously. I mean, when he asked me, he knew what he wanted. He was like, he was so cool. He was walking through the whole thing.
I've never done it to him yet.
Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
Okay, so you strap it on the strap on.
You strap it on right here.
I love your strap.
I love it right here.
You're cute, laugh.
So you strap it on, it's like a waist belt,
and then it's got a dildo coming out.
Right.
And then you use lots of lube, right?
Yeah.
And then you just...
I approved the size.
I'm like, it's the size okay with you.
He's like, yes.
And he was so cool about it. So casual. And then you just I approved the size like a size okay with you. He's a yes and
He was so cool about it so casual because he had done it I'm like a bunch of times before and he is also someone who is
Incredibly comfortable with his own sexuality. He also is a porn star and okay
He has done this a million times before so he just knows what he's doing
So that was really comforting.
So does he have an orgasm?
Is that what you're penetrating him?
Does he have an orgasm that way?
Oh, I didn't tell you the whole story.
No, you're...
Go back up, back up, start over.
Okay, so we chose the dildo, and I put on the staff on it.
I was giggling, of course, like the whole time.
So I was just super excited because I've never really done this in my personal life. Right.
And the times, the two other times I've done it before, was in front of the camera, which
I'm not normally in front of.
It's just, you know, it was someone was having a party and I was given the opportunity.
I'm like, of course I would.
So this is my first personal time ever doing it.
And like, I was so excited and nervous and I had sex with this person before, so that was familiar.
So,
what happened?
So,
yeah, I just immediately got into it
and I was talking all this shit.
I'm like, I'm gonna fuck you,
just like you just fucked me.
Oh wow.
And at first I was like,
I'm not gonna fuck you until you make me come.
So he made me come and then we got the thing
and then I,
How did he make you come?
Did he just fucked me? Right, okay. Awesome. It was just more for me, it kind of felt almost like
a dominant thing where I'm not going to fuck you until you make me come and after you make me come,
then I'll do it. Right. So, um, I got mine. That's so nice. And then I was, you know, and I was just
just whispering in his ear, you know, like, fuck you, like you fucked me.
And I think we did Doggy Style to start off with.
Okay.
And we were on the couch.
So he was kind of up on his knees,
and I had my arm just wrapped around his neck,
and I was just like, wow.
It was amazing.
That is so hot.
Really hot.
And he's super hot, too.
Wow, I'm sure he's gorgeous.
And he, it was great because there was another position
that we took where I was on the bottom and he was on top
and I was jerking him off and he came all over both of us.
Wow.
It was so hot.
And I was thinking to myself, what a man.
Right.
What a man.
What a man.
So the wire guy's so intimidated by you,
like, why not just try it?
Like, I just feel like guys think that, like,
it's only for gay sex, but they've emailed the male prostate.
I mean, they can have orgasms or that way,
and it can feel amazing.
I mean, they might not like it just like some way
they might not like anal sex, but how do you get straight men
to know that this could feel like,
this could be a really good thing.
Like, find a partner that you feel safe and comfortable with
and you could start with a finger, right?
You could start small.
Start small.
I've just been with my partner.
I've been kind of trying to coax him into it.
And some people like it and some people don't.
Right.
It's not always a...
You have to like it, but what if it is this thing
that you rock your world and you never try it?
Right.
Right, that's amazing.
You should try it.
All men should try it.
I really do think so.
Pony knows.
Pony gold.
I love it.
I love it.
Okay, so that is sounds really, really fun.
So what other kinds of things?
So what did you do on camera when you were on camera?
When I was on camera, I, you know what?
The majority of my, it was a big party. So it was for the
two times that I did do it. It was for this particular website called Divine Bitches.
Okay. And Matri Smadeline is the director for these sites. And she is amazing.
Okay. Beautiful, beautiful, no-plastic surgery. Right.
Like, honestly, naturally celebrity gorgeous to me.
And so she throws these parties every once in a while where the women are the
doms, you know, it's a FEM dom website, and the men are to worship them, and it's
just so much fun and so empowering. It's such a refreshing take because you know
where you're used to like men dominating women and whatnot and
This this woman has just taken the reins and it's just made these
She does divine bitches as well as Wicked ass, which is another lesbian
Phantoms website
She just is just rocking it so what happened to men are men are
Performing on you men are performing sex on your oral sex or whatever or the parties involve
Different guys
They're available for certain services like one guy one guy in particular is personally really into pain
So we use him as the pain slut and the other guy really loves getting fucked in the ass
So we'll all fuck him in the ass, you know, so the kind the party goes in stages like four different stages
but meanwhile there's other I mean, yes, you know, so the kind, the party goes in stages, like four different stages.
But meanwhile, there's other men running around, like getting drinks and giving massages
and just pampering.
That is so fun.
And they're so good at the party.
The boys are so kind and sweet and loving and it's just a lot of fun.
And your husband is cool with all this.
He is.
He married you.
He knows.
He knows, man.
Yeah. People can have relationships that are healthy and happy and still have experiences outside of their marriage.
But they're also, I'll be honest, is Greenlight red light.
Right. You know, some people he doesn't like and when he doesn't particularly like someone,
then I have to abide by that. Right.
I'd be respectful. So you have to prove it. You talk about it first and sound like you just do it.
It's not, our relationship is not a free for all. Right. Yeah.
I don't just like go around screwing in and I want to want. about it first and sound like you just do it. It's not, our relationship is not a free for all. Right, yeah, that's not it.
I don't just like go around screwing in, I wanna want.
You know, I do think go around screwing everyone he wants,
but we just like, we consult each other.
That is also healthy because I think,
so would you say that you're in a polyamorous relationship then?
I guess I would.
Yeah, open relationship.
Because I've been thinking about that for myself.
I'm not sure, I'm still trying to figure out
what kind of relationship I want.
You've been talking about that for years. Actually, not sure. I'm still trying to figure out what kind of relationship I want.
You were talking about that for years.
Actually, okay.
I thought you were talking about this.
I remember.
I got this so many, because menace like every day is like,
that's just what you want.
But I don't know.
I mean, I've experimented with it.
I've been more open with guys, but I've never.
I've been with the ladies.
Yeah.
I have.
I've been with women.
I know.
I know.
Had I not, had I not never been? I don't know. I don't think I knew that. I can't remember if I had before. I think I with women. I know. I know. Had I not? Had I not never been?
I don't know.
I don't think I remember that.
I can't remember if I had before.
I think I had before, but not more recently, I guess,
in the last six years.
Sex suddenly opens up many doors.
Of course.
I know being at kink.com probably opens up many doors
and many offices.
Many offices and many doors.
So what about trying to think what else?
So, where do you, okay, let's talk about your photography.
I want to show you a photography here.
So, this is Taboo Magazine.
Yeah, so, you know, these are the hottest photos.
Well, the past two and a half years I've been doing videography as well as photography for kink.com.
And I have learned so much lighting design,
positioning, composition, everything.
So you hadn't done that before,
because you were editing before, right?
Or you were?
Well, I was doing a production assistant work,
which does involve photography.
I know those are really hot photos.
Oh my God.
Okay.
And so, you know, Taboo came to King and wanted to work with us.
They wanted to do something.
They wanted to feature some of our work,
as we really focus on being authentic,
real authentic videos.
It is real, I mean, it's real, like people are really,
okay, I'm showing this to the camera now,
if you guys are watching the show.
Look at these photos, they are beautiful.
Can you see?
Okay. And this is, it's hot.
And these are Shardic Kinks. So I love this one when she's swallowing his, when she's got
her calm, his calm coming out of her mouth. I know everyone loves that photo. Look at this.
They just, they just think it's coming out of her mouth. She just swallows come in this
photo and then it's coming out of her mouth. I mean, you've really caught a moment. These are beautiful photographs.
This is a hard shot to take. The actual...
Com shot.
Yeah, the Com shot itself is really hard to take.
Do you know when you're shooting this port? So this is Ta-Boo magazine. You can check
out and you're gonna do more photography.
Yeah, this is a September October issue and it may still be around.
Oh my god, it just came out then.
Yeah, you just came out a while.
And then the next one's coming out in March.
Okay.
That's a Holly Hart and Cyrus.
It's like a medical kind of shoe.
Okay.
Based in the, well, based in the,
in the padded cell that we have at the art of building,
but you will see.
I'm going to come check out the art of building.
I cannot wait.
There's like, I remember the,
I remember the padded cell. I remember the the the medical room. I remember I just
know in the old to kink in the old building that they have. Yeah right. Yeah I went to that one
but I've never been to the new one which is like this epic and now they're going to open up tours.
People can go right. Yes they have they do currently have tours. Okay. Sign up. I think it's
armory at kink.com. Okay, cool.
Everyone, check that out. So any final sex tips or anything that you would like to share
with our people listening that they should know about sex and what you've learned. Anything
to impart, wisdom. What you think is right now. You know what? You know what? I would say
I would say try everything twice. Try everything twice. Not just what I always say once, but twice
right now. You might not like the first time. Because the first time might, it's a little Twice. Try everything twice, not just what I always say once, but twice, why not? You want to let it go for a second?
Twice is good, because the first time it's a little awkward, it's a little scary and strange,
depending on what you're doing.
Okay.
But the second time, you know, you're a little, oh, okay, I've done this before and let's
see, let's open our minds just a little bit more.
Okay.
I love it.
Thank you so much, Pony Gold.
Absolutely.
It's so great to see you.
I'm so happy you've been on the show.
I mean, seriously, it's been years.
Like, she was like my second guest. I was like, you know a lot about happy you've been on the show. I mean, seriously, it's been years. She was like my second guest.
I was like, you know a lot about sex.
Come be on my show.
Oh my god.
And now it's like a whole nother level.
So congratulations.
There's more.
Yeah.
There's so much more.
Okay, well, you have to come back again.
So thank you,
Thank you, Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, next time,
okay, you're going to come out with the models next time.
Well,
like tomorrow.
Next time,
who I would really love to bring at two particular models.
So one of them is Matrice Madeline and the other is Bobby Star, which they're both doing
really amazing things right now.
Okay, that would be amazing.
That would be, let's do it.
Okay.
Thank you so much, Pony.
And thanks everyone for listening to Sex with Emily.
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For a wired pussy and public disgrace.
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