Sex With Emily - Fun, Fearless Sex (Talk): Cosmo Style
Episode Date: October 6, 2017Emily’s mission has always been to help people have the best sex they can. On today’s show, she’s joined by editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan, Michele Promaulayko, a magazine that’s had a simila...r goal since the 1960s! Emily and Michele both know a thing or two when it comes to sex, relationships, and ways to improve both. They talk about how the magazine has evolved, different sex trends, sex and society, peppered with a few stories of their own. Plus, they answer questions about friend jealousy, long distance sex, and announce a sexy contest! Tune in and find out, just what is the moaning mermaid? Thank you for supporting our sponsors who help keep the show FREE: Mystery Vibe, Sportsheets, Womanizer, Magic Wand Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily, and today's show I'm joined by Michelle Pramaleko,
editor and chief of Cosmo. We talk sex, relationships, and everything in between.
We cover a lot in this episode, including why we're all obsessed with butt stuff.
What's the moaning, mermaid sex position all about anyway? Words we want women to banish from
their vocabulary, how to keep long, distant, sex hot, moving past friend jealousy,
and getting on the same sexual
page as your fiance.
All this and more, thanks for listening. Secret institutions, bed-roof eyes, they call them in a fight on me. Hey, Emily, you got a boyfriend?
Because my man E here, he just got his heart broken, he thinks you're kind of cute.
The girls got a hair stand.
Oh my!
The women know about shrinkage.
Isn't it common knowledge?
What do you mean, like laundry?
It shrinks?
Can we not talk about sex so much?
Are you kidding me?
Oh my god, I'm off here.
I'm so drunk.
Being bad feels pretty good.
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It's all at sex with Emily across the board, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, all
that stuff.
And also, you guys, if you have checked out some of my recent podcasts, one that you guys
seem to really like was sexually fluid with Niko Torturella.
That's going to come up in a minute as well because my special guest here actually introduced
to us and I'm so grateful for that.
You guys should check out that podcast as well.
I actually met him at a Cosmo magazine event in New York called Let's Talk About It.
He was just very open about his sexuality and gender fluidity and where he's at and who
he sleeps with and he, I kind of want to sleep with each other but didn't really happen
on the show but could have happened later anyway.
It was a really good show.
You guys don't miss it.
You will like it.
Yeah, that's what we got.
Okay, I'm just going to introduce my guest right now because it is Michelle Pramaleko.
She is the Cosmopolitan magazine editor-in-chief,
which is the largest women's media brand.
It's freaking amazing.
Good for you.
It's amazing.
And the editor-world director of Seventeen magazine.
Correct, because you have to have two jobs nowadays.
Exactly. How do you do it all?
Two jobs are better than one.
I know.
Well, thank you. Yes, exactly.
Thank you for making the time, right?
See, I'm getting right in.
But are they right in the same building?
They're in the same building, right?
Yeah, we're all on the same floor.
But that's just a lot.
It's too bad to use that.
It is a lot.
Yeah, it is a lot, but it's such fun audiences.
So I love it.
It is fun.
See, that's really interesting, because I would think the crossover, is there anything
that comes up, you're like, oh, that would be more 17, that would be more cosmolite.
Absolutely.
And there's a little bit of crossover.
It's like if you're talking about stress reduction
or something like that,
that can apply to any audience.
But mostly the 17 reader is still pretty innocent
and hasn't really graduated into a sexual life, so to speak.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
I was trying to think about Cosmo,
because for me Cosmo was such a,
like I had a bag my mom to get a subscription to it.
In 17.
And Cosmo readers generally start reading
when they take their mom's copy.
So they start early and they're curious about it,
but the 17 reader generally isn't quite there yet.
There's a little bit of overlap.
I was like 13, I think when I got my 17 subscription.
Exactly.
Is that right?
High school age.
Right, okay.
High school years.
And then college is Cosmo, but obviously some high schoolers read Cosmo
and then women love their Cosmo and they never want to give it up
so then they keep it forever and ever.
Just the true, I kept so many, I had so many causes
when I moved from San Francisco
because I was there for 23 years.
It was when I started the show,
so I've been doing this for 12 years
and I've had a subscription, I've gotten,
I just kept them out like they always do
like they're very appropriate for what we're doing
and I like them. Yeah, useful magazine.
So I was thinking about this.
That it really was probably the first place that a lot of people really read about sex.
Like whether it was you stole your mom's copy, you begged your mom to give you a subscription to it,
or you saw it at the grocery store, and it was sex.
Absolutely, and that's one of the things that we pride ourselves on.
I mean, listen, we all wish sex education could be perfect or even exist in all places,
but because it doesn't,
Cosmo has those kinds of frank conversations
and they're authoritative and they're necessary.
Yeah.
And you're doing the good stuff.
I know, it's true.
And I was thinking also,
well, the one more thing I was gonna say
is about men reading it,
that I didn't know that until I was older,
probably my 20s and guys were like,
oh, I learned everything in Cosmo,
like they stole their sister, they're not friends. I were like, oh, I learned everything in Cosmo, they stole their sister,
so they're all friends.
I have like,
we used to have stats on this.
I don't know if I haven't looked into it recently,
but at one point, I think it was 15% male readership,
and it was because they felt like they had stolen
the opposite sexist playbook.
Exactly, it's true.
And you sort of want them to steal it,
because you want them to learn things.
So you're like, please take it.
It's kind of like the podcast too.
I feel like people are like,
and I tell couples this too, you should listen together,
or they're like, I'm trying to get my girlfriend to listen.
I'm like, we're gonna listen.
It's a sports conversation.
So whether it's Cosmo or the podcast,
it's the same kind of thing.
You want that to get started.
You're like, I didn't say it, Cosmo said it.
So obviously, this is how you have to go down on me today.
And also, we have heard from readers that they've used it,
like I read in Cosmo.dot.dot.
And so it's the icebreaker that enables them
to start a conversation that they may feel
a little awkward starting.
So I love that conversation starters.
That's good, you're doing good work.
And the magazine too has been, since you've been there,
I mean, you've have two stints there.
Right.
So you were there.
I'm on my second tour of duty. Second tour of duty. And so you've been there less I mean, you've had two stints there. Right. So you were there. I'm on my second tour of duty.
Second tour of duty.
And so you've been there less than a year now.
Just a year.
Just a year.
Okay. And it's really changed.
It's not the Cosmo that it used to be.
I brought a bunch from Hawaii when I went in July.
I had them stacked up and it was like,
I was so into it.
And I was with a guy friend.
He's like, what do you do?
He's like, that's Cosmo and he had seen it.
And I'm like, no, it is.
Like, it looks like you're reading like an L,
but you're reading all the sex stuff.
I just think that you've done a great job.
That's amazing.
Tell me what happened.
What happened when you came in?
Where was it?
What were you thinking when you got there as far as a state of sex and how to kind of change
the negative thing?
Yeah.
I mean, here's the thing.
Women have changed so much even since I was there last.
So I was gone for eight years.
One of the things that even took me by surprise
was how sexually fluid the audience is now.
And it's not even just the Cosmo audience,
it's just millennials in general.
I think the stats, like one third of millennials
identify as something other than straight.
And I was like, really?
Right.
So back in the day during my first tour of duty,
we might have done stories like,
I kissed a girl and I liked it kind of thing. Right. So back in the day during my first tour of duty, we might have done stories like, I kissed a girl and I liked it kind of thing.
But now we have to be really conscientious about how we talk about your partner and other
things which is honestly created a challenge.
It is a challenge.
No, we do that around here too, like you and your partner.
You can't assume, you know, you can't make any assumptions.
Yeah, so that was a huge learning for me.
It's not my experience.
So I was like, wow, okay, cool.
But we do know the majority of our readers are straight,
but we also don't wanna alienate any reader.
So we're really careful about that.
So in that sense, it's less man-focused
and it's less man-pandering for sure.
It's more about how to get yours.
But also, women wanna know how to please their guys.
So we don't have any shame in talking about that. It's not like you're pleasing him exclusively and you don't expect
reciprocity you absolutely do but yeah, we want let's go both ways. No as it should I get that too
And I just feel like that women can never stop hearing that lesson that your pleasure does matter and your partner
And I feel like I I've talked about this in the show
But my sex education, you know,
a bit small.
I mean, if I had any at all, and that's kind of like was my impetus for starting the show
because I wasn't having great sex, but that it's funny because my niece now, I hope,
God, who knows, she could start listening to the podcast, but she's a team.
She just started college and now we're like best friends, we talk every day.
And it's, I feel like it's such a different time right now, but yet she's a team. She just started college and now we're like best friends who talk every day. But I feel like it's such a different time right now.
But yet, she's still like dating guys.
She'll be like, well, I hope this guy has more experience
because he had a girlfriend before or something.
And she's not very sexually.
I mean, she just had one boyfriend for a year
in high school.
But she has an expectation.
That the expectation is that again,
like someday my principal commons so a lot,
which is what I believe.
The man's in right up.
I'm his white horse and he's going to have the keys to my magic kingdom because I did
not get the keys.
I didn't know how to work my own, so I'm thinking myself, wow, you're more sophisticated
in that way.
But not even, no, but it was the same old school like she thought that the man, she still
hasn't let me talk to her about.
She still thought, I need to be with the guy who said, we're experienced because I haven't,
and he's gonna bring that.
So I'm just saying, while I think a lot of things have changed,
I still think there's this thinking that it's about
pleasing the man more.
Even though we do all of our work.
Right, it depends on the person,
but of course that still exists.
There's universals, and then there's the unique things
that you think is an individual.
One of the things that we hear all the time from readers is, am I normal?
Do people ask the same question?
So everyone's always wondering where they are in terms of experience, how much they know,
what they like, what they're into.
I get exactly, am I normal?
I say that so much of my job is just saying, yes, you're normal, you're okay, it's fine,
what you're doing is fine.
Because people, they don't really have other places to go
to really find out if that's true or not.
Like who am I gonna talk to about it?
I'm gonna be shame, I'm gonna be blamed.
Yeah, and staying on the topic of women expecting
to be pleased and to get pleasure out of the experiences too,
I think that's mostly reflected on our covers now,
where you don't as much see that, like I said,
the man pandering like how to please him,
you might see a cover line about what he's thinking
or just kind of male mind reading stuff,
but less about here's what to do.
Right, so it's a lot about self pleasure,
prioritizing yourself.
Don't that.
Right, do you feel like those tips have changed
sort of or it's just more emphasized,
I see what you're saying.
I think it's more the way that we frame it too.
Right, I love that.
That's it, yeah, yeah.
Gotta keep up with it.
Because this is the other thing I love
that your mission statement,
Cosmos mission is to empower young women
to own who they are, be who they want to be,
and we're focused on propelling her
into fun, fearless, future, no excuses, no bullshit,
no regrets, I just love that bullshit.
Yeah, so Cosmos long time tag line
has always been fun, fearless female.
And I love that.
And of course, it's like a brilliant marketing slogan, but it's absolutely the kind of advice
that we impart to our readers.
I feel like you're doing that.
Let's go talk a little bit about the trends and the questions you get asked.
So I was thinking about this because I've been doing this for 12 years.
You've been working in this sex business in another way for a while.
Journalist's excited about it. But I was thinking, okay, the last few years, you've been working in this sex business in another way for a while. Journalist's excited about it.
But I was thinking, okay, the last few years, the trends I've noticed, anal.
I'm thinking, anal's always been there.
So 12 years ago, I was like, oh, anal's a new blowjob, right?
Right.
And then it was like, pegging.
I'm like, oh, it was pegging the new anal.
But it just seems to be this sort of swirling of anal, but stuff, but stuff, pegging,
right? Squirting.
All the time, wherever I go.
Like literally that's just a thing.
That's the number one question you get.
Well, yeah, a lot more squirting,
but then some things make a comeback.
Three sums always in popular, but then all of a sudden,
like early this year,
surge of three sum questions again.
Why else is this?
I wanna see if these things are cyclical.
I don't know, yeah, maybe.
But I agree with you with the whole idea of anal and butt stuff.
And that seems to have come up more than I remember it coming up before.
And we just did in the latest issue, his P spot, which we said,
guys have a G spot too, but it's the P spot, which you talked about on the show, of course.
Yes.
And we went there and told them how to find it.
Good for you.
Oh, this is really,
because I'm getting asked it.
We hadn't done that before.
We also said, broach the topic carefully.
Don't just go for it.
Don't rush in.
You just let's do.
Don't rush in.
And we said, if you don't want to go all the way there,
here are some other things you can do.
But if you're a game and he's down, here's what you do.
Exactly.
I don't remember ever being quite that bold before.
I did not even know that it was a thing before, probably,
like, 15 or even 80s X, 20 years ago,
was not something as much talked about.
So now, and now the men, the thing that I've noticed
is that while I've always talked about,
yeah, you guys got this magic spot,
like, what if I told you your orgasms
could be that much more intense?
I don't care, that's the no-go zone.
Exactly, but now men are actually asking me,
they're like, how do I find it? How do I do it?
So I love it. We're all on the same page.
Yeah. Why not, though? Like, what if you had this magic spot that...
I was listening to one of your podcast with the three guys.
Right.
And the one guy was saying that he, like, found it on himself,
and I was like, wow.
Yeah, people, I'm like that's really ambitious.
It is ambitious, it seems like a lot, right?
But if you, there's toys and music.
You might need to be a contortionist to do that.
I'm not sure.
But.
What's your legs back?
There's some toys for that.
We've got toys for that.
Lots of all the toys.
You guys, like you said, you get a lot of toys today.
Yeah, I mean, they don't get sent to my office.
This is why we're gonna go shopping in the closet.
Excellent.
Yeah.
When people come to visit me, we go shopping
in the beauty closet.
See, I wanna do that too.
Well, you, I'll go shopping in your sex toy closet.
Can I come in your beauty closet?
Can I come in your beauty closet?
It must be epic.
Yes, it's pretty amazing.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Oh my God, I love your job.
I really do, because you get sex stuff
and you get beauty stuff.
I'm what, more can a girl ask for.
Well, like literally nothing.
I know.
So Michelle, are you dating?
Are you in a relationship?
So I'm a serial monogamous, so I've been in long-term relationships.
And my last relationship was very long-term.
And I've been out of that for a while, so I'm starting to date,
but I am the layman's dateer on the planet.
I'm so passive.
I've been on apps apps and I'm like,
oh, I know.
I can't.
So I've given up on that and just now I'm resorting
to just telling friends.
I'm open, set me up.
It works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I've been doing that too.
I feel like the apps I get into the apps
and then it's like another friggin email answer,
another text.
Yeah, and it's funny because one of the reasons
I got on the apps wasn't just,
I want to get out there and start dating again.
It was because I really wanted to understand what our reader was going through and what I hear from our younger
Staffers and everything they say is true and it's like at this juncture in life
I really don't need anymore friends. I mean not to sound like an asshole
Yeah, but like I'm not looking for a pen pal. Right. No, you're like let's just we just wrote a article move it from dating move it from texting to dating Yeah, so what did you find to be true on the apps just that there wasn't a lot of follow through and I get it
Because I was kind of acting that way myself on the other end
So it was both of us I was doing it passively so I can't really say that I gave it a good call to try
But I I was like this is this looks I'm with you
I did it first.
My very first Tinder date was a few years ago on the show.
I had a live Tinder date on the podcast because I was like, you know, I'm just, I know.
Well, it was funny because it was good content.
That's good content.
It was good content.
And he was a great live Tinder date on the show, but the second date wasn't as fun as
the first.
It was a great show.
It was funny because Anderson, who was my co-host, the time he came out and got the
date. We had a bottle of wine in the studio. and it was just, it was really fun, but it was
just, uh, it was, but it was interesting to hear like how, how I was on the date because
I actually forget that I'm, like, I really feel like we're sitting here talking right
me.
We are sitting here talking, but I don't think about it.
It's just a completely deep interior.
I know, we are looking into each other's eyes.
What do you hear though about, and it's probably changed to that something else I want to
talk to you about dating now with the apps, not just the apps, but what women are looking for now.
In their 20s, as opposed to last time you were a Casino.
Well, it's funny because the whole dating app revolution hadn't really happened,
and so it was still the traditional friends, you know, friends setting you up,
going out to bars, all of that stuff. So now they're in this world where they're
completely dependent on these apps. And they really crave
going back to sort of the retrograde like meeting IRL as my girls would say in real life. I think so too.
And I have a funny anecdote for you. So this summer I was in Greece and I was on this with a friend,
I was on this tiny island. And I look over like I'm at beach club, and I look over and I'm like, that guy lives
on my hall in New York.
That's so crazy on this little remote island.
Like, that's wild, but I'd never really talk to him.
He lives two doors down for me.
So I go up to him, I introduce myself.
He's like, doesn't recognize me because that's New York.
And it's really upsetting that you don't know your neighbors, and you have to go to Greece
to a tiny island to meet them.
So get home, you know, he slips a note under my door
that says that was wild, you know,
let's grab a drink, hope you had a great vacation.
So I posted it on Instagram and Facebook
because I just thought this is a story about New York
and how F'd up we are that we don't know our neighbors
and we have to go all the way to Greece.
Oh my God, I got more engagement on that post than anything else I've posted.
I don't know, 1800 likes and 85 comments and all of them were.
It's Kismit, it's meant to be. You have to marry him.
You're gonna run the story. Oh my God, things happen for a reason.
On and on and on and on.
And first of all, he's gay. Okay.
But I did obviously say that.
There was no, I wasn't even thinking about the fact
that it looked like this romantic connection.
Oh.
But in getting that feedback, it made me realize
how desperate everybody is for that meet cute story,
for that romantic story book movie, you know,
get up.
And I was like, I hate to disappoint you guys.
So I wrote about it in my most recent editor's letter.
Okay.
And I said this happened, it really made me aware of how abysmal
the dating scene is, it's not fun anymore, like all the fun's been sucked out of it.
And, you know, so this happened in alas,
he wasn't interested in women.
So, you know, but I gained a great new friend. So that's that's the other.
Is he a great new friend? I love this. Yes.
But when you posted the post and your what is your Instagram and we have a miss prom and miss
the yeah, miss as an m i c 8 from Michelle and prom PR OM great. You guys got a
follower. I loved your story. I followed you through Greece. We didn't know this story.
But everyone you could check that out. It'll be on our website and and our website, along with this as well, in the podcast description.
So when you were just posting it though, on your thing,
you're like, you didn't think that people were gonna be
thinking it was a romantic thing?
At all.
You're like, how funny I made a new friend.
I would have thought that, yeah, well, obviously.
I was more thinking that it was a funny commentary
on New Yorkers, and how we're in an apartment building
on the same floor as someone and how weird, small
world, you see them increase and then you become friends because you're so in this weird
context that you're like, I have to go up to them and say hi.
Whereas if they're in the elevator, I'm like looking down at my phone.
So for me, it was a commentary about that and everybody interpreted it as like this wildly
romantic story.
I know.
I was hoping that this was your guys.
Yeah. I know that too. Well, that would have been a romantic story. I know, I was hoping that this was your guy. See, I know that too.
But so many firsts.
Well, that would have been a great story.
Well, here's another great thing
being talking about the New York versus LA.
And we were just talking about tape.
This is where my ADD, but the dating,
and dating now in your 20s.
But then we're also all distracted
in all of our phones no matter what age we are.
Totally true.
We're all looking down instead of around.
Right, where I feel like when I look back,
and in my 20s where I'd meet people,
like it was standing in line
if I was waiting for coffee or doing something,
there was nothing else to look at.
Like I wasn't in line at Starbucks,
there wasn't a Starbucks reading a book.
Totally.
Like I would just like, yeah,
and you literally not making eye contact anymore.
Exactly.
So when you say that people are going back to that,
I don't even feel like they know what back to that is because they want to go back to that
But they don't necessarily know how to trace those stuff. They weren't there. I've never walked in those steps. Right.
Thank God we work because I actually am practicing because first of all all these like sex and the news stories come out every day
We do a segment called sex and news but not with you because I know we have so much talk about that
It would be forever that I couldn't break for that.
But it's like every day, like nobody wants sex.
No one's having, no one's having,
the millennials are having,
because they're obsessed with their sex phone.
They're having less sex than any previous generation,
less sex than their grandparents are having currently.
I'm like, there's something very wrong
with this picture.
And they say it's because of the cell phone.
Yeah, well, I think it's probably a combination of, you have the pen pal relationship, like the
texting, dating app, you know, direct message conversation, and then porn, masturbation.
Well, that's the other thing.
Yeah.
Is that that porn?
Is that, and then since they're not having the practice, I believe kind of having intimacy
or having connection with somebody that it's so daunting, it's so terrifying for them to make to approach
to approach a woman and I think society still expects that that's the man's responsibility.
But women should totally do that as well.
I don't expect that I expect everybody to talk to each other because it really doesn't
matter, but nobody's doing it because they don't have the experience and then they're
watching porn.
And that's how they feel like they should have sex.
Right.
So we've covered some of that.
We've totally covered that.
And we've talked to sex experts,
urologists, other people who say,
it's created a problem because the sort of proliferation
of porn and the availability of it
and guys are used to getting off in a very specific way
by their own hand in a certain amount of time
that it's actually created,
impidence, performance, anxiety, all of these things,
which I'm like, oh my God, this is so upsetting.
It's so upsetting, I know.
It's so upsetting for everybody,
for the men, for the women,
because they become so conditioned
to that exact set of circumstances.
Maybe we should have for my next WTF,
but maybe we should do like,
I mean, I would normally not say this,
but maybe we should do a masturbation cleanse.
I think we should.
I think, well, it cleans from, or, or, no, like, porn, you use the imagination.
How about that?
Like, no more porn, but, but I think maybe no more porn, but it's not just the visual of what they're seeing and the kind of sex.
It's them getting themselves off and what that requires, and they know exactly angle to use and exactly what pressure and exactly would speed and so for men
For men, okay, so it really it more for men. So it really is a
Mastervation cleanse it would have to be that so porn slash masturbation cleanse
Yeah, you know the thing is for women
I would never say that but for men I don't think that that's a bad idea and for men
Also, it builds up over like I feel like your orgasms are more intense
and your focus may be sharper
when you're not ejaculating every day.
It actually is really healthy for men.
I have a guy friend who was like,
I don't, I mean, he admitted to me
that he was like a major master, beta.
And then he kind of stopped, cold turkey,
because he said he needed to get his fire back.
He needed to get his mojo and his hunger.
And I'm like, you know what, that makes sense.
Yeah, it's true.
And I just got back from this retreat.
It was like a sacred sexuality retreat in Hawaii.
And we talked a lot about like Tantra.
And in Tantra, for example, especially men in their 40s,
they say, your testosterone takes, you know,
takes a nose dive, you know, things change.
And it's actually not as healthy for men to ejaculate every single day and that the more
and I'm always telling men, it is important for your prostate.
I'm not saying never ejaculate, but as men get older, it's better to not release that
and you can kind of have to do practices where you can still experience orgasm, but you
don't ejaculate, which is a much deeper practice.
I'm going to have some people on the show to talk about that. Wow.
But actually, you could just kind of,
it's kind of using edging,
but not actually going over and having your orgasm,
but I think that women though,
we're kind of meant, we can have like 237 orgasms a day,
is what they say.
So I feel like it's for us, it's really, really great.
Is that the exact number?
It is, but for guys, they kind of sometimes have to chill.
So if any of my editors are listening,
can you jot that down as a story idea, the
masturbation cleanse?
It is a good one.
Yeah, John, exactly.
No, please.
And I want to say two things about Cosmo.
First of all, I loved meeting you at the Let's Talk About an Event in New York.
And that was such an amazing event of seeing all of me.
I hadn't actually attended a Cosmo event.
I don't know how many of those like experiential events you had.
So you had a answer twice a year.
Yeah, and the women,
all the attendees were amazing.
And they were so like, interesting and insightful.
And a lot of the young women came up and talked to me
about what their, you know, their experiences,
and they love Cosmo, and it was so diverse.
And it was so diverse.
And even the topics that we talked about were diverse, right?
So we talked about politics and money,
and power and image, and sex, and everything everything which goes to show you the breath of Cosmo
But I really enjoyed the the session that you did with Nico and you guys were so great together
You guys had great chemistry you did never met before right?
So no, we had never met and then we had a little affair during my show
He came to my podcast. He was on like a few weeks ago, a month ago, who knows what time is? Six weeks ago, he was like,
only has seconds to like, smell them.
But I did his podcast and he did mine and we did it here.
And he was so, I put it on my Instagram,
like we did this, you guys should check out this story,
but he was like, after what, he was like,
I jacked off to you having orgasm on the podcast
before I came on the podcast.
And I was like, here's so hot.
But the whole time we were here,
we had like this chemistry.
So thank you for that introduction. Beside to being a great day, but he was great. I feel like a, I don hot. But the whole time we were here, we had this chemistry. So thank you for that introduction.
Besides to being a great day, but he was great.
I feel like a, I don't know, a little matchmaker,
even though you didn't come to make a relationship.
We didn't consummate it.
We kind of made a great podcast, never know.
But I love that.
And I'm so happy we got to meet.
And thank you for the opportunity to contribute
to the WTF column.
I know.
So we should explain what that is.
So every month, we're going to do it, like, what the fuck?
WTF is blah, blah, blah.
In the actual magazine, just like my dream BTW.
Yay.
And then you're going to explain what the fuck it is.
Right.
Exactly.
And the one that's coming out, can I tease it?
Should I be at like tomorrow or something or soon?
Yeah, coming out.
What's Outer Course?
Exactly.
Which I had so much fun writing because I actually-
Like, don't you guys want to know
What the fuck that is yeah, what the fuck is out of course?
So I have a guy friend that I was he's my neighbor we were kind of
Hanging out for a little bit and I was actually writing it and I thought he was over and I was writing it about
Outer courses more like what you did in high school. It's kind of like, you know
Moving over your clothing and he's like well, we should should actually practice it. And then we actually had never,
we still, and we won't hook up now,
I've realized it's not gonna happen,
but it was super hot because he was like,
that's so hot you're writing this for Cosmo
and I was talking to him and then we like,
actually had outer course outside.
It was amazing.
In my backyard.
It really took your work seriously.
I do.
And then I had this whole vision where I was like,
I don't know how you guys decide what it is,
but I actually wanted to take something on every month
and do it and then write about it for you guys. I love that.
It was so inspiring for me.
I was like, yeah.
So there's a biohacker of stuff.
I know.
Exactly.
Because that's kind of how when I started my show, I was sort of like going to my first
sex party and going to having a threesome because why not?
Like online dating.
How do you guys do your research, though?
I'm curious.
I mean, we really rely on the experts.
So people like you and others and all realms.
So we're the conduit to that information.
And of course, over time, we learn things.
We feel like we're experts in our own right,
but we absolutely, we don't just give opinion.
Right, no, we talk to, yeah.
I know, I always talking to guys,
but I remember the first time I was so, I still am,
but it was like, it was probably when I started,
I think I've like, people know my show now
when I got a call from like a Cosmo editor.
Woohoo!
I love it.
Okay, we're gonna take a quick break.
We come back, we're gonna talk about Cosmo's sexy sutra.
I love this book, we're gonna give it away to you guys
and we're gonna share some sexy parts
and then we're gonna get your emails, give you advice.
Thank you, Michelle, Promoleco.
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They help keep the show free
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Okay, we're back. I'm with Michelle Promoleco. She's the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan
magazine. And we're having a blast. And I kind of want to stay here and talk to you for talk I'm with Michelle Pramoleko. She's the editor-in-chief of Cosmo Politan Magazine,
and we're having a blast.
It's true, so.
And I kinda wanna stay here and talk to you
for a sec.
Talk about sex all day.
I could do that too.
And I love your Cosmos sexy sutra, 101 epic sex positions.
But here's the thing, it's not just positions.
No, there's other tips in there.
It's really like good tips.
People love a new position.
So that's what's teased on the cover. They don't have limited real estate, but yes, there's more. There's more like good tips. People love a new position. So that's what's teased on the cover.
They don't have limited real estate, but yes, there's more.
There's more than just position.
Right.
Well, they do love a new position because I get asked positions all the time and I saw some
new positions in here.
So good job.
You want something?
A little bit.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, well, because we talk about positions in here a lot.
I'm like, oh, that is an interesting one.
We haven't seen it that way.
So I loved it.
And also just like the tips, and it's a great, I think it's a great gift.
It's like great, you just leave it around and pick it up and be like, oh, that we should
try that today.
So tell me about why.
Great conversation starters.
Because we were saying just like, I get it, you guys.
It's really hard to talk to your partner about sex.
So you pick up this book and we're going to give five copies away.
And but before we do that, tell me why you guys wrote this book and why it's important
to you guys. So Cosmo why it's important to you guys.
So, Cosmo's a long tradition of doing books.
The Cosmo Commissoutre was one of our best sellers.
And back in the day, I wrote a book
called Cosmo's Guide to Red Hot Sex.
And that was on my first tour of duty.
I have that, okay.
And this was just the next generation we've done.
Have you seen those like Cardex?
We have like a whole bunch of them.
Some of them are sex games and just like fun things you can do. So we've sold, have you seen those like card decks? We have like a whole bunch of them, some of them are sex games,
and just like fun things you can do.
So we've sold millions of books,
acquiring mines, wanna know, all this stuff.
So this is just our latest.
I love little tidbits and everything.
So good job.
Thank you.
Cosmos, sexy, sutra book,
101 epic sex missions.
So here's the giveaway you guys.
If you want to win a copy, we're gonna give away five,
and this is what you have to do.
You have to share with me what's your go-to sex hack.
So have you ever hacked your sex life?
Like, what did you do to take it to the next level?
Like, give me some details.
Was it like, I finally talked dirty to my partner
or I discovered the moaning mermaid position?
This isn't the fuck.
Oh, now I'm gonna have to read it
because they're gonna be what was the money made.
Making up the name so that's the most fun part.
Exactly, so fun.
What was that one thing?
You're like, boom, maybe you just said, grab my ass.
I don't know.
What was that sex hack?
I'm we're gonna give five copies away.
So just email your entry to feedback at sexwithelmy.com.
Please put Cosmo Sutra,
COSMO, SU-UTRA in the subject.
And we'll also be promoting this contest
in our social media.
So in order to win, you have to be 18 years or older
or live in North America and submit your entry
by Sunday, October 30th.
We'll select five winners.
And I just wanted to know how inventive you are.
Like what was your sex hack?
Next level.
Next level sex.
So I,
and no to editors, that's another good story.
I do.
What?
Yeah, that's my thing.
I love sex hacks.
So to me, that's like, I talk about a lot in the show,
like what are the little things that you could do
that kind of, I can write that column with you guys.
Sex hack?
Sex hack.
Totally.
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay.
And I just noticed we have like the same
as that canal polish on. Right. We're so vibrant. Is this the, did you use's do it. Okay. And I just noticed we have like the same exact nail polish on.
Right.
We're so vibrant.
Is this the, did you use?
I'm not into girls, guys, but Emily's hot.
Is this the gel, not gel stuff?
This is, I have gel form.
Okay.
Well, mine's peeling off, but this is that stuff that's now we're going into like, this is
the stuff that's the gel.
How closet terrain.
I do, so doing that.
I think I'm going to be there in a few weeks.
Oh my God, come on.
Okay.
We have to each read.
We each picked a passage.
I picked 10, because I couldn't choose. But your favorite. Yeah, I couldn't choose my favorite, because I was like, We have to each read, we each picked a passage, I picked ten because I couldn't choose.
But your favorite.
Yeah, I couldn't choose my favorite because I was like, oh, that's good because I was thinking
about you guys.
I'm like, what would you guys want to hear and what do I love because I'm a giver?
But Michelle, this is what Michelle picked from the book.
So mine is going to seem kind of benign because it's about kissing, but I like it because
it's such an underrated activity.
A hot make out session is the best and it's such an underrated activity.
A hot make out session is the best.
And it's the first thing that goes.
Yes.
So there's a section on kissing
because some key lip on lip skills
can take an ordinary hook up to new heights.
So it's places that you can kiss people,
other than the lips,
and then it's three kisses to try tonight.
There's the surprise smooch.
There's the lip service and there's the on the move.
X. Oh, I think you're sure you are.
The other description.
Okay.
One of the I kind of think that people you can.
Okay.
Just maybe one of them.
Okay.
Of course.
I want them to buy the book.
No, I got it.
I've got it.
Okay.
Three kisses to try tonight.
The surprise smooch mid make-makeout suck on his tongue firmly
for a quick second.
The swiftness will surprise him.
You'll practically see the thought bubble above him saying,
did that just happen?
And the excitement will make him want sex like now.
That's good.
Okay, so that sounds like a good kiss.
Well, here's the thing, I feel like,
even I need to hear these things.
I talk about kissing and how to spice it up. It is the first thing that goes.
And it's true when you just do a little nibble, a little lick, a little kiss somewhere else.
It's next level. It's like, oh, that's tough.
Yeah.
Okay, the next one is the lip service.
Switch of the intensity and speed of your make-out sash by playfully nibbling on his lower lip
and tugging it towards you.
The little bit of roughness lets him know you're in the mood for an intense romp.
Hmm. Sounds good. Sounds good.
Okay, and then on the move XO, starting at his neck, give him quick fluttery packs, varying
your kisses on the way down to his boxer briefs. He'll be totally turned on while he wonders
where you're going to kiss him next.
I like that. So the power boring kisses. No, because this is not your garden variety make out. We're talking about here.
Yeah, this is next level kissing and we need to do more of it. Yeah, I think so too. I think that and even I
I said I think I've been a little lazy sometimes with kissing and then I remember that I know things and I got to like bring it back and do it and
I like this for four play as well because I feel like four play just can, I cannot emphasize enough that it's not
just suggestion. It's a requirement. And for women, especially, we want to be warmed
up. So if you're like kissing and then he's going to kiss you back and then you're not
and you're ready for sex. Okay. I look how many I post. A lot of tabs there. I couldn't
decide because I thought I thought, well, this could be good and then I still didn't decide
so I'm doing a game time decision.
Okay, well, wait.
No.
Okay, so I chose dirty talk and then I was like,
oh, okay.
Okay, you're helping me decide.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Hot topic, dirty talk.
Yes, it's possible to whisper naughty things
without sounding like you are auditioning
for a walk-on role in a 50 shades sequel. Here's how to talk the talk. How to talk dirty without sounding like you are auditioning for a walk-on role in a 50-shades sequel.
Here's how to talk the talk.
How to talk dirty without sounding ridiculous.
Start simple.
You don't have to start spouting filthy things right away.
Mums and Oyas are easy entry points, even though that feels so good.
Can seriously steam things up.
Ask for what feels good.
Any dude will tell you that there's nothing hotter than a woman who knows what she wants
and bad, which is both of our missions, CosmoneenseX, and Emily. Tell them what hot
things you want them to do, and if he's already doing them, let them know how much you're
enjoying it all. And don't worry about sounding silly, because really, who else is going
to hear you but him. So I like this because I get a lot of questions about dirty talk. I
think it can be really challenging for women to kind of get over the hump of what to say and how to say it and we're so worried
about being judged by the person. 1,000%. So I think you chose the best possible passage to talk
about because it's true and what it's saying there is basically start with just like communicating
what you're feeling which any guy wants to know anyway and is a total turn on for him and for you.
Right, exactly.
And then I was gonna read some of your suggestions
because I liked them in my dirty talk voice.
You drop your voice a little and you slow it down.
Well, I can't really drop mine anymore
because it's so deep to begin with.
I mind like very high and fast.
We know I like these because anyone can say these.
That like, I was gonna say like,
I don't know, something really dirty.
You don't have to be an actress.
Okay. How are you so good at this? like, I don't know, something really dirty. You don't have to be an actress. Okay.
How are you so good at this?
That works.
That makes them feel good.
You're so hard.
Now I've done that, but to me it's like every time that works, like you're so hard, unless
it's not so hard.
They just want to know you can feel it.
I can't wait to fill you inside me.
That one works every time, because that's so descriptive, it's very specific that you're
actually ready for him, and like, it's fun for the family.
These are universal pleasers.
Exactly. I want to do bad things to you. I like these. These are good. Okay. Now I feel
like I have to read the morning wear made. Go for it. Because I know that I'm going to
get emails. What was the morning wear made? So this is a sex position. Okay. Switch positions
in missionary. So you're
on top with your legs pressed together between his and your arms holding you up like Ariel
on the rock. Hence the mermaid. Since he's on the bottom, he can thrust extra deep inside
you and you're getting the clit stimulating benefits of girl on top. Plus the power
reversal makes this feel a bit subversive. AKA super hot.A, super hot. And then it says, make it hotter.
I thought there was like a make it hotter.
It can never be too hot.
Stay extra still while he adjusts his thrusting
by butterfly his legs wide
and then bringing them closer together.
So the point of this is that she's...
I always feel like sometimes it's harder
to podcast and describe positions.
Definitely.
I feel like for me, it's a lot easier
to have orgasms when my legs are closer together.
So I actually like this position because when I squeeze them together,
you are, you know, clenching your pelvic floor muscles, your kegels.
And for me, that's like an easy way to have an orgasm.
Yeah, it's hard to describe it.
So they have to send in their sex.
Sex.
We're done.
So that they can get a cop.
I just didn't want to, I just know you guys, and you'd ask me, okay, so that, yes, do that.
Send it in, feedback at sexwithm.com.
Okay, Michelle, I need you to help me answer
some emails here for my listeners.
I am down.
I get so many emails, and I love that you're here.
They have two brilliant minds inside of one.
One and a half.
Okay, I didn't mean for a half.
You didn't mean for a half.
No, I mean, you know, not the two, I don't remember.
Hey, we both have a very similar job.
If you have a question, you want me to answer on the show,
I love it.
We made it really easy for you guys.
Text me your question.
It's so easy.
You just go to your phone.
You text 7979, 7979.
That's the phone number.
And then you do ask Emily one word.
And then when you press send, you're going to immediately
get a bounce back.
And you're going to get a link.
You open up that link. and you ask your question.
So it's easy.
You can also go to sexwithelmy.com via the Ask Emily tab and as always, please include
your gender, your age where you live and how you listen to the show.
Hey Emily, I'm a 23 year old female from Long Island.
I listen on iTunes and your podcast is my favorite.
I'd love your help with something.
How do I make a move on a very hot guy?
I'm an average looking girl
and I'm crushing on a sexy trainer at my gym.
He's outgoing, motivating, and seems funny.
I take his class as much as possible
so he notices me, but I'm one of many.
Do you think I can make a move on a guy
who's out of my league?
I'm quitting the gym soon
because I got a job at another gym.
I have nothing to lose,
but I'm afraid of rejection
and making a fool of myself.
I could just give up,
but I'm tired of fear holding me back in life.
What do you think I should do? Love, Lauren, 23, long Island.
Good question.
Well, the first thing I would say is don't ever use the words he's out of my league.
That's exactly where I was gonna leave a sea. We are.
We are completely aligned in that.
Like, we made my stomachache. There is no such thing.
So first of all, she's already putting herself
in that deficit mindset.
So get rid of that.
And yeah, it is scary.
And maybe if you approach him and he doesn't go for whatever
reason, he's got a girlfriend or like my friend in Greece,
he's not into women.
Whatever it may be, it might sting a little bit.
But one thing I try to do and it applies to all different things is,
what am I more likely to regret asking or not asking?
Exactly.
That is great advice.
You've nothing to lose here.
That did trigger me, so I would like you just to remove the
auto-mylake and also average looking girl.
Like all those these world negative sort of
judgy statements about yourself. Yeah, it's what's holding
her back. It's confidence. That's exactly what's told you
back in confidence is the sexiest thing that we can all and
have it possess and cultivating your confidence is the most
important life work that you can do. Maybe start with asking
this guy out and say, Hey, I really enjoyed your class. I'm
going to another gym but but a lot of good lunch. Yeah,
exactly. Don't ever think it in your out.
And also, it'll be great practice because you've nothing,
you literally have nothing to lose,
and I love what you said about number gruts.
Hey Emily, thanks for your advice and knowledge
in the realm of sex.
You've made me and all of my friends
much more comfortable talking about sex in a positive way,
and you've somehow made it easier to talk to my boyfriend.
I'm 27, and I've been with my boyfriend
who's 29 for about a year.
A few months ago, he transferred law schools, so we're dating long distance. Well, I'm so and I've been with my boyfriend who's 29 for about a year. A few months ago, he transferred law schools,
so we're dating long distance.
While I'm so proud of him,
I'm still feeling unsatisfied relationship-wise.
I'm someone who really values physical touch
and obviously long distance makes that challenging.
At first, sexting and phone sex were new and exciting,
but it's become harder to initiate with his schedule
and the fact that he is roommates.
Can you suggest other ways we can say connected and keep the intimacy alive?
Thanks again for all you do Anna 27 North Carolina.
Yeah, Anna.
Yeah, well, come to mind here.
So the first thing that came to mind, it might just be because we've been talking so much
about sex toys, but like a Bluetooth enabled sex toy.
It's exactly where he's controlling it.
That's what I'm talking about.
FaceTime sex with a Wevibe, the RAVE, the NOVA.
I mean, they're all Bluetooth enabled now.
And have you tried the Wevibe toys?
No.
Okay, wait.
I guess I'm getting that as a gift.
You're getting, you haven't seen our sex toy closet yet.
I'm obsessed with that.
Yeah, you might, but it's like the best piece of luggage
that the most useful piece of luggage.
That'll be the one that they search for sure.
It's fine.
I go through it all the time.
Totally fine.
I've got it with like hundreds from,
I went to like a sex toy trade
so there were hundreds of them in my suitcase,
didn't matter.
Here's what I'm picturing for you, Anna.
You're sitting there and you're actually having a real date.
So you're like, Saturday night, 730,
you're gonna get dressed up,
you're gonna wear something that makes you feel really sexy,
you're gonna light some candles, you're gonna each have your dinner, and you're gonna like eat and talk to each other.
If you want, you can skip to dessert. I'm cool with that, but it's a real date, you're getting dressed up, maybe his roommates are gone, or he goes into his bedroom,
and I think use this opportunity to like, maybe ask each other some like sexy questions you've been wanting to talk about,
it could be some kind of bucket list
I love games you said like Cosmo's got like the games
I love that I love games anything that gets you guys talking Anna when you have one of these toys
It's really cool because you haven't seen these at Michelle
This is your one of one of your party gets it it sounds great
Okay, so it's so cool because the app allows you to control it from your phone
Even if you're just not in a long distance relationship
You just don't have to like look for the buttons
So it's right there and you can control the intensity the duration the vibration patterns you can have a vibrate to music
So Anna sweetie your partner can be controlling he's gonna watch you like getting off your holding this toy
How hot is that and that enhances intimacy right there?
Done. Love it. So that's how to keep it alive.
All right, hello Emily. I'm a 26 year old British Chinese female. I've taken very good care of
myself. I work out and eat well. I'm also a kind and giving person. I don't have a lot of female
friends and they seem to find my physical and overall parents threatening. They become very jealous
about easy I have with attracting men and looking good. I do put effort into my appearance and like most people, I also have days where I don't feel
confident.
I want to have deeper and stronger friendships with my girlfriends.
Do you have any advice or ways I could avoid clashes with my female friends and move them
away from feelings of jealousy?
Have you ever had to deal with this best Jessica 26th UK?
I thought this was really interesting because first of all, working at Cosmite
started thinking I wonder what it's like
with all those women in the building,
but also just being a woman.
In the magazine industry in general.
Right, it just, you know, I saw Devil Wars Prada.
Oh, and you would be, you would be that person.
You would be.
It would be the Miranda Priests.
Miranda Priests, but you wouldn't though.
Not as well, right?
But you're so not.
No, you are all those things.
But here's the thing about women and I think
is that it's been around forever, jealousy and women.
We start, you know, typically at a young age,
you start fighting with your friends.
But eventually, you know, you get to a point
where you do transcend jealousy.
But what I think jealousy is about,
it's sort of like this mirror.
And I don't even think that it's like women are,
even we're looking at other women
and we're comparing ourselves going, she's prettier,
she's taller, she's smarter than I am. And we're not even really seeing them where it's a myth that we're comparing ourselves going. She's prettier. She's taller. She's smarter than I am
And we're not even really seeing them. We're it's a myth that we're comparing ourselves to them, right?
Totally great and I think the root of jealousy is seeing something that you want. Yes, and it's not personal about that the friend
I like that this woman says she wants to deepen her friendship. She clearly cares about that
She obviously has a lot of confidence. She knows she's attractive. She knows that she
Attracts men pretty easily maybe more easily than her friends
But she does say there of course there are days that I feel less confident
So I think one way to diffuse this would to be one to reveal those days when she feels less confident
So that she seems human right and then on days when she's feeling good or they're going out and there does seem to be a lot of male attention
Be a great wing woman.
Like be a great wing woman, and bring the friend along.
And yeah.
Yeah, I was exactly, I was gonna say,
to be a good friend, or to have good friends,
you have to be a good friend.
And when I started thinking about this,
I thought, what does that mean?
You really celebrate your friends and their accomplishments.
And you ask questions, you're a good listener,
and you tell them when they look amazing,
you're always just gonna say compliments. Get look amazing. I was just gonna say compliments.
You could get you.
I was just gonna say compliments.
You could get you.
You could get you.
Get generous with your compliments.
Be generous with your advice.
And here's the thing, and you said,
have I ever had a deal with this?
And I don't think I've ever talked about this in the show
and I don't wanna set this to sound super,
I don't know how this would sound.
Like I'm bragging or cocky, but yes,
I was in college and I've always had these times
with my best girlfriends I've had forever
that were like my roommates freshman year and we were still friends, but they were like,
oh Emily, you get, you would get the attention from the guys and I've always been my friends
I've had forever.
I am a very, very good girlfriend, so I get it when you meet someone who's attractive.
It's so easy for women to want to hate other women.
But I also think I am a very like a kind, loving friend and I would do anything for my
girlfriend.
So for example, I love that you said this, if I was at a bar or somewhere and a guy started hitting on me,
and I saw that my friend might have been,
I would instantly just be like,
you should, I would say like, he's yours, take him,
and I would turn my attention back to my friends.
Because I am all about like, you know, what is it?
Like, well, they say bros before hose,
what is it for girls?
I don't know, I said they have it.
We do, but I don't like what it is.
It's like chicks before dicks, but I don't like what it is. It's like chicks before dicks,
but I don't like that as much.
But that's, there must be another one, but that's how I am.
It's better than bros before homes.
Right, they're both bad,
but that's the only thing I could think of.
Is there something else?
The millennial in the room,
there's universes before, deuteruses.
All I'm saying is I've always been this way,
that I'm a girl's girl, till the end,
I have great guy friends, but Siri,
how did Siri wanted to contribute to the conversation.
She asked her.
An alternate for Rose before her house.
That's so funny.
But I really truly believe what you said earliest on,
which is that it's not so much about her jealousy.
It's something about her.
She feels less than and she's the friend.
The person who's asking, yeah, the person who she's talking about being jealous of her. She feels less than and her friends, her friend and the friend. The person who's
asking, yeah, the person who she's talking about being jealous of her.
Her friends being jealous, right? Yeah, I think so too. It's about them, but also just
be a really good friend and then your friends will kind of get past us.
Hi Emily, I love your podcast. I listen to them every day at work. Really? People listen
to these at work and I always see them out. Is it a good day, bad day, getting stuff done?
Like what's happening? You know, you take the message,
we're at the right time.
That would be okay.
It's research.
Exactly.
It's a story.
We've come up with so many stories.
I'm sure.
I've been with my fiance for seven years
and we're getting married in three months.
Since the beginning, he knew I was more open
to new sexual experiences than him.
We have a lot of toys and we're getting better at anal.
Not easy.
If it wasn't for my ideas, we'd be having vanilla sex all the time.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the stereotypical guy in this relationship. I've always wanted to threesome. Not easy. If it wasn't for my ideas, we'd be having vanilla sex all the time.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the stereotypical guy in this relationship.
I've always wanted to threesome, he knows about it, and it scares him like hell.
I would love to do this before we get married, afterwards it wouldn't feel right.
His argument doesn't seem pertinent, I know he's scared of anything new in the sexual
realm.
He acted the same with anal, and now he's the one asking for it.
Should I stop pushing him and get over it?
Anything I can share with him about why we should do this
and experts opinion may cause him to rethink this.
Hugs and kisses from Europe, Madda 26 Belgium.
Ooh, I'm interested to see if we answer it differently
because what I would say is you have to respect
somebody's boundaries and it sounds like
yes, she's had to be the encourager in this relationship and he's come around
to liking some of the things that she suggested,
but he's pumping the brakes on this.
He doesn't feel comfortable doing it.
And she wants to push him,
which to me seems like it could be dangerous,
especially at this pivotal juncture
in the relationship they're about to get married,
they presumably have the rest of their lives
to be together and to experiment and do things.
And so what I would say here is to back off
and also bring a third person into your relationship.
There are always risks involved with that.
So I feel like she thinks it's gonna turn out
like every other experiment which is good,
but he's giving her every signal that he's not ready
and I think she just needs to back off.
I mean, I agree with you and this is, you can't force anyone into anything, especially a threesome.
And typically this comes from men asking like, how do I get my part into it?
It's like, you can't. She has to want to do it. You can talk to her about it, explain how it go down,
but you can't force them. So that's one thing, but there's a few things in here.
So I agree that she can't force them, but I'm concerned about you're looking at the relationship,
saying like, you're getting married in three months,
and then after that, it wouldn't be right
to have a threesome.
Like, I'm just concerned about your whole,
your black and white view of sex.
Like, you're to have like this checklist in your mind,
whereas what I would say is rather than focusing
on the threesome's of the anal or whatever's
on your sex bucket list, you're marrying the sky,
presumably thinking, you know, hopefully
you're gonna spend the rest of your life together
if that's what you're into.
And there needs to be a bigger conversation here
about sexual exploration.
If you guys are on the same page,
and what's like on your bigger picture bucket list,
I think sex should always be expansive.
You should be growing and learning together
and trying new things.
And she's already labeling it as vanilla.
So she's like already going into it
with this like judgy,
like it's boring, it's bland mindset.
And then she said one other thing in there about,
I'm the typical guy in the relationship.
And that's something that I want to like put to bed
because so many people were still conditioned to think
that guys want sex more than women
and they're always the aggressor in the relationship.
And I know plenty of friends who are more sexual beings
or have a more voracious appetite than the guys
that they're with.
So I think we just need to get rid of that altogether.
I agree.
I love it.
That's a very good point.
That was a red flag for me too.
So there's a lot of like some negativity here
and some judgments.
I think that you guys just have to have a really important
conversation about your sex life before you guys
get married.
And it's not really about the threesome.
I don't think you want to force them into anything right now.
It's just a bigger conversation.
It is true that one of the first myths that was busted for me
when I started this show was that I assumed that men just wanted sex more.
That's what we're told.
There's way more women I hear from.
They're like, what's going on?
Hold it away.
Okay, Magda, this is a good time for you guys to have that sex talking.
Congratulations on your engagement.
Michelle, this was great.
We've come to the end of our time together. I think so. This was so fun. This is really fun.
I love that you're here. Thank you for having me on. Thank you. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for your time. Thank you for your great advice. And I love being part of the Cosmo family.
That's right. This is just the beginning of an ongoing relationship. I think so too. I love it.
Now should we go shopping in the sexway closet? Absolutely.
Okay, I love it.
Thanks for being here.
Bye.
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