Sex With Emily - How to Heal Low Self Worth to Build a Fulfilling Sex Life l ft. Tara Schuster

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

Join the SmartSX Membership : https://sexwithemily.com/smartsx Access exclusive sex coaching, live expert sessions, community building, and tools to enhance your pleasure and relationships with Dr. E...mily Morse. List & Other Sex With Emily Guides: https://sexwithemily.com/guides/ Explore pleasure, deepen connections, and enhance intimacy using these Sex With Emily downloadable guides. SHOP WITH EMILY!: https://bit.ly/3rNSNcZ (free shipping on orders over $99) Want more? Visit the Sex With Emily Website: https://sexwithemily.com/ In this empowering episode of Sex with Emily, Dr. Emily Morse sits down with writer, producer, and self-care advocate Tara Schuster to talk about the journey from self-abandonment to self-worth. Through laughter, honesty, and raw storytelling, they explore emotional healing, sexual empowerment, and the small rituals that create lasting change. Tara shares her background of emotional neglect and how she hit rock bottom; leading her to build a "re-parenting" plan with daily rituals like writing down wins, lighting candles, and journaling to create inner safety and structure. They discuss how unresolved emotional wounds often show up in the bedroom as self-doubt, people-pleasing, or disconnection from pleasure, and how Tara learned to stop abandoning herself in relationships by asking "Do I actually like this person?" instead of "Do they like me?" They dive into how pleasure, including sex, isn't frivolous; it's essential to well-being, and how we must unlearn shame and guilt around joy in order to thrive. Featured Resource: Yes/No/Maybe List - A sexual communication tool mentioned by Tara that helped her explore new experiences and communicate openly with a partner about desires and boundaries. This structured approach allows individuals and couples to indicate their interest levels in various sexual activities, facilitating honest conversations about preferences and limits. Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction: Setting the Stage for Healing & Self-Worth 3:08 - Tara's Rock Bottom Moment: The Call That Changed Everything (hitting rock bottom at 25 and the decision to save her own life) 7:42 - The Desert Breakdown: When Success Isn't Enough 14:02 - The Spite Method: How Reluctant Healing Actually Works 19:19 - Body Gratitude Revolution: From Shame to Self-Celebration 22:58 - Self-Worth & Sex: Why Healing Yourself Transforms Intimacy 39:15 - Trauma-Informed Solo Practice: Safe Sexual Exploration 49:23 - The Yes/No/Maybe List: Tools for Sexual Communication

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Starting point is 00:01:02 real everlasting safety is with yourself. So finding confidence, finding self-worth, getting over this abusive relationship, forgiving herself that she's having these things. It's just normal to have trauma responses like this. And she doesn't need to retraumatize herself by forcing it. I think we just need to be way more gentle with ourselves
Starting point is 00:01:23 and when we suffer, recognize it. I think we just need to be way more gentle with ourselves and and when we suffer recognize it. You're listening to Sex with Emily. I'm Dr. Emily and I'm here to help you heal the parts of yourself that feel broken and discover the love you've always deserved. So many of us were never taught how to take care of ourselves emotionally, mentally, or sexually. We're told to hustle, to perform, to please, but not how to feel safe in our own bodies or how to build a life where we actually feel good. That's why I'm so excited to bring you this conversation with Tara Schuster, author, speaker, and emotional wellness advocate. Tara is known for turning personal chaos
Starting point is 00:01:56 into radical self-care and in this episode she shares her powerful journey from hot mess to healing and the tools she used to reparent herself along the way. We talk about what it really means to become the loving parent you never had, how to soothe your nervous system, set boundaries, speak kindly to yourself, and show up in relationships with confidence and clarity. My intention is for this episode to be a reminder. You are worthy of love, care, and pleasure. Not someday, but now. Healing doesn't require perfection, it just asks for honesty, intention, and the willingness to start.
Starting point is 00:02:26 All right, let's begin. Hi Tara. Good to see you. Hi Emily. Tara and I have also become friends. We met through our mutual friend, Jennifer Fried, and we were instantly connected. Love when that happens.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yes. Your book was good. The vibe was good. The vibe was good. The vibe was good. We had a lot. We were like immediate friends and immediately I was like, Emily, can you help me with my sex life? Just like full vulnerability.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's been such a treat to get to know you and it's always fun to talk to an actual friend. Yes, exactly. So that's why this is going to be even more fun. So we talk a lot about confidence and self-confidence on this is going to be even more fun. So we talk a lot about confidence and self-confidence on this show, and we will even more in this episode, but you went through this whole healing journey about yourself, your body, your relationships, and you wrote your first bestseller all about this journey. But then you realize, which
Starting point is 00:03:18 I love because a lot of us do work and we're like, okay, I'm done. Let me move on and learn to play golf. But you realize that there's still more work to be done even when you start on this path. So tell us about that night in the desert where you realize, oh, there's still some stuff I got to do here. Yeah, it's so annoying when you realize, oh no, healing isn't a one shot deal. Like I'm not done. Back up a little and say why I needed healing to begin with, which was I had grown up in a neglectful, psychologically abusive household where things came to die. There was no hex, but my parents didn't know how to nurture anything, much less children. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm taking a whole book and condensing it into like two sentences. But basically, I left my childhood thinking I was worthless, that my body was wrong, that I was bad. This one phrase kept repeating itself to me, nobody cares about me, nobody cares about me. I felt so alone and so I self-medicated with weed and made tons of bad decisions with boys and was basically pouring Pinot Noir into my soul in an attempt that, well, maybe this will help.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And it didn't, but at the same time, I was really, really good at work. And so, work was my salvation, work was my validation. Basically, nobody knew that I was suffering from severe anxiety and depression due to this neglected childhood until I hit rock bottom on my 25th birthday when I drunk dialed my therapist threatening to hurt myself. And she, this super calm, stable European woman who always looked so reserved, she was
Starting point is 00:05:02 leaving me voicemails trying to find me and they sounded desperate. When I heard that, how scared she was, then I got scared and I thought, if I don't save my life, I'm not going to have much of a life to live. My first book, By Yourself, The Fucking Lilies is all about just attacking the problem of, can I find stability? Can I just be content? I don't want to suffer through my whole life. My inside internal monologue is you're ugly, you're bad, you're not worthwhile, you'll never succeed, you're too old to succeed. I was 25 and telling myself there was no way
Starting point is 00:05:38 forward and so over the course of five years I did heal myself and that's what Lilly's is all about. And of course when you heal yourself and you're like, oh, I'm all done. This is over. It is like the moment you say that something hits you. For me, it was I lost my job at Comedy Central. You said this, I had staked my identity to that job because first off, I thought it made me less of a weirdo. You know, none of my friends could relate
Starting point is 00:06:06 to my predicament. Now I know so many people can relate, but then I felt really alone. And so this super glamorous job where I'm in charge of Keon Peel's show and David Spade's show, I could point to that and say, ta-da, like I'm not only, you know, doing well, I'm slaying, I'm killing it.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Aren't you jealous of this glamorous life I lead? It was status for me. I'll admit that. And so when the job was pulled away from me, I was like, wait, who am I? I have invested every ounce of myself into this job. I don't even know how to function without a boss telling me what to do, where to be. And in that vacuum, all of these new traumas boiled to the surface.
Starting point is 00:06:56 The things that I thought would overwhelm me if I ever tried to deal with them. I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, I healed enough. But these things, these feelings, I don't really have to deal with them. Like I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, I healed enough. But like these things, these feelings, I don't really have to deal with. So over the course of five years, I created a 600 page Google Doc with questions like, like it was a lot. I'm extra if you haven't noticed by now.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And I created all these rituals that are so basic, but actually really changed my life and are available to everybody. And that's what Lilly's is all about. Even something simple like journaling has profound effects. So I've done all this work. I'm feeling really good about myself, stable. The rug is pulled out from under me.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I lose my job. I have all this trauma just like surging. I cannot control it. I don't have the power to control it. And I thought, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to work harder. I'm going to move to Arizona and help in the 2020 election and not deal. And so I packed up my Prius of doom. I grabbed my Vitamix and my Nespresso machine, the only things that matter to me, got in my car, hightailed it to Arizona, and I was driving in the Mojave Desert from LA to Arizona,
Starting point is 00:08:11 to Flagstaff, Arizona, when I had the worst dissociative episode of my life. And if you haven't had one, it basically feels like you're full body sick and your mind is trying to take you away from reality to protect you. I'd look at my hands on the steering wheel, but they didn't look like my hands at all. I decided I'm going 95 and if you know me,
Starting point is 00:08:38 I should not be going 95 miles an hour. In the middle of this love child between a panic attack and a dissociative episode. And I realized, whoa, I'm not safe. I have to pull over. Never in my life had I pulled over. I had just, you know, bought into the creative hustle, you know, like keep going and working
Starting point is 00:09:00 and that's your identity. And that's actually your passion and who you are. I had never questioned it. And so I pulled over, it was late at night, I looked up and I saw the stars, like really saw the stars for the first time in many, many years. And in LA, there's so much light pollution.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I don't think you even could. You don't see the stars here. It's so remarkable. People know when you leave the city is when you see the stars and it's not. Exactly. And as I looked up see the stars here. It's so remarkable. People know when you leave the city is when you see the stars and it's not all. Exactly. And as I looked up to the stars, the one thing I knew about stars is we come from stars. Not in a, this will make you feel better.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Let me write it on a Etsy mug kind of way. But in the carbon in your muscles, the iron in your blood you come from stars And the stars glow no matter what they come together because of pressures and gravity and nuclear chain reactions and all this super super stressful things pull together stars and They glow and we all like in a super fractured world, we all agree stars are awesome. Nobody's dissing stars, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Exactly. We give them a birthday present, like I could name a star after you, like stars are not controversial. Star getting seen. Yeah, it's a non-controversial topic. And they like bring out a little awe in us when we look up. And so that's what glow in the effing dark is all about.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's about can I recover my stardust self, the what I was made out of in the beginning, before all the trauma, before all the BS, before the job defining me, who was I? Can I bring that person out? Well, how did you sit out to do that? How was that different from Lily? Did you tap back into what you already had known?
Starting point is 00:10:48 What were the next layers now that you had to peel back? Yeah, now that I look at it, I realize I couldn't have experienced my soul. I'm making a wild claim here in glow in the effing dark, glow in the effing dark. I'm saying you can get right with your soul, that I have spent time with my soul and I feel good about my soul.
Starting point is 00:11:08 But in order to say something so woo woo and like, wait, what? No, that's like a bombastic claim. I had to do all the work of lilies. I had to build a content stable container basically for my life, you know, that had rituals that gave me order. And then once I had done that, I could dig much deeper and, you know, find out what did
Starting point is 00:11:33 the little girl inside of me, what did the stardust self really want. And that's the journey of glow in the fucking dark. I love when you talk about these practices because the practices you developed, you said you developed them out of spite. And this is kind of sounds like the whole stardust thing you're doing. I'm not gonna really be like about stardust. I'm not putting this out of mug, but it kind of like your whole attitude is like,
Starting point is 00:11:53 I fucking hate this. I'm never gonna meditate. I'm never gonna do breath work. I'm never gonna journal. And then it's out of spite, you commit to them. It turns out they work. I am an optimist, but I'm also extremely reluctant and judgmental.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So like, first off, I'm not like a meditation person sitting upon a pillow with patchouli burning all around me. I'm like, I want to go do karaoke tomorrow night. Who is coming with me? So my vibe is just not that out there, for lack of a better word. So all of these rituals, I'm really skeptical of, you know, I'll take an example of having a gratitude practice. I left my childhood believing I had nothing to be grateful for. You know, why would you be grateful for living in an open construction site as your
Starting point is 00:12:43 house? Why would you be grateful for your parents going through a 12-year divorce? Why? And I was actually on vacation with a super-duper privileged person. It was her family's compound in Maine. I don't have any second home, much less a compound. home, much less a compound, and her cousin who had gone to Harvard, become a professional ballerina before becoming a doctor. Like, wow, okay, I guess there are some people like that. She was so accomplished. And I was having a panic attack on this vacation about two different boys who didn't like me. And, you know, I was just like ruminating thoughts about them and anxiety and why don't they like me and I'm unlovable.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That was what was going on in my mind. And she saw me having a mental breakdown, the ballerina medical cousin. And she said, why don't you try a gratitude practice? You know, gratitude brings such perspective into your life and positivity. And I was like, why don't you leave me the fuck alone? Like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:13:56 A gratitude practice could work for already happy people who had the means to go to these places and do these things, but it couldn't benefit me. So I wanted to prove a point that she was super wrong and out of touch. And that is the only reason I started a gratitude practice. I started really small on my list from the time. And a gratitude practice is-
Starting point is 00:14:19 Let's talk about that. You list things you're grateful for every day. There are many different gratitude practice, but that's the basic. And for me, I listed 10 things I was grateful for every day. And so it started with, you know, like number one, I am not grateful. Number two, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Number three, I hate this person. I won't name her, but like, why am I even doing this? And then I was like, okay, I'm grateful for espresso. I'm grateful for clean sheets. I'm grateful for water. Water's kind of a big deal. I'm grateful for my health. Oh my God, my health.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I hadn't even noticed that I had been taking my health for granted. And by faking gratitude, I like could make gratitude because it opened my eyes to how much I really did have as opposed to looking at what I didn't have. You know, it flips the narrative of I don't have enough and shows you, well, you have quite a bit on paper. And so for me, yeah, most of these practices I only began because I wanted to be self-righteous, prove somebody else wrong. I didn't believe it and was like, I got to see this with my own eyes.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I can't even think of a time where I was taken in by something and just thought, that'd be fun to try. I'm very judgmental. And I could see that too. I've had our time with the gratitude thing too. I have a really close friend and she was like, look, every day my friend and I send each other these three grad, every night we've been doing it for a year. And I've actually like, I'm an expert of studying other people's gratitude practices, but I haven't perfected it yet. But that's what worked for her was having
Starting point is 00:15:56 accountability partner in that. Or, you know, and when I do remember to do it, like at night, I try to think about what went right today rather than what went wrong. And that's kind of a, I just love that you were able to find this healing habit, because really it's all a habit. Finding how it works for you and then continuing to do it, like even just for a few days. Like giving people permission right now just to try it for a few days. The other part of gratitude that I love in your book is you have started the gratitude practice, but then you started a body gratitude practice. The thing about the body stuff is hard. There's so many times where I tell my listeners, like, stand in front of the mirror, look at your body, say what you're grateful for. I'm even saying it
Starting point is 00:16:31 in that tone because I'm thinking that, fuck you, I'm going to be naked in the mirror and be thankful for my knees and my toes. But I know that it works. And I know it's a big difficult step for many people. So tell us about your journey. Absolutely. You know, first off, if you feel like you hate your body, of course. Everybody doesn't, it's not like a moral failing. It just makes sense. We live in a culture that tells us to hate our bodies.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So we buy stuff, right? So just first thing, if you hate your body, you are normal. Second thing is I developed boobs like early, right? Um, in life and I always considered myself to have a matronly bosom. And like it was like this mass was just attached to my torso and I didn't know what to do with it. And even in college, I remember being like, I am a less attractive Velma from Scooby Doo. I would place my boobs in what I call a boob shelf, which is remember like, like I would go to the gap and get the it had no underwire. It was just a
Starting point is 00:17:40 place to put your boobs basically. And like no definition. So I just, I felt horrible and I wasn't taking any steps to help myself. And it might've kept going this way except I was buying a dress. You know, I looked at it and I'm like, it was ruched and ruching is the sworn enemy of the big chested. It is almost impossible to pull that off.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And I'm like, oh no, it's just yet another thing I can't wear. And she said, well, have you tried a good bra? And I was like, no. What? Like that sounds too fancy, expensive. I hate my boobs. Why would I honor them? And that's when I realized, wait a second. What if I tried the complete opposite of how I feel, which is to honor my breasts and treat them to a delicate Parisian lace bra that gives me definition, and that's exactly what I did. These bras were like $100.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It wasn't cheap, it was within my means, like a little bit of a struggle at that point to even consider $100 bra, right? But it completely changed my whole life. Because I was no longer totally critical of myself. Instead, I was taking a step to make my body fun. You know, my my boobs look amazing and a pink mesh bra with a giant bow on them. And that's for me. You know, I get to see that when I'm getting dressed in the morning.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And so body gratitude is really about reframing our bodies as miraculous machines slash sculptures. How'd your body even come about? You know, how did the stars know to make you? How does your body know what it's doing? How can it have babies automatically? How can it do any of these things? And so I started just getting into the awe and wonder of my body, like, whoa, it can run, why?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like, why is that the case, you know? And thanking my body, like, oh, yes, why? Like, why is that the case, you know? And thanking my body like, oh yes, thank you lungs, thank you running, thank you. Really seeing everything that it did do, honoring myself with different rituals like a luxurious bath, right? And thinking like, this is for my tummy that I hate. Is this beautiful bubble bath
Starting point is 00:20:04 where I'm gonna celebrate that, wow, I have enough food to eat, I actually am alive and have a tummy, that means I'm alive, like I'm here, right? And so it's all about finding what can you be grateful for, not in a woo woo foe grateful way. There's all this debate about body positivity, body. Like I don't wanna be a part of anybody's conversation about my body, it's mine.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's mine, I don't care what you think about yours, that's your own business. While I'm alive, I'm gonna feel very grateful for mine. And it definitely was a process, but I cannot even believe that I don't hate my body anymore. I thought it was amazing when you write that you would never wear a bikini. I love all your footnotes because first I used to say never wear a bikini, now you're a bikini.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And then you're like crop tops. I'll never wear a crop top. And then you're like, update. I am wearing a crop top now. I'm like, girl, it's just so real. I love, I went from the ultimate crop top hater where I was like, wait, where's the rest of the shirt? You can't charge me full price. This is not okay. To whoa, my body is actually awesome. I am going to be flaunting this mid-drift as much as I can. I never wore bikinis.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I was so afraid. I was like, ugh, I'm so ugly and gross and boys won't like me if they see my body. To through body gratitude, being like, I'm sexy as hell. I'm not taking a bikini off ever. Like, there's no age at which I think it would be inappropriate to gleefully display my body in the exact way that I want. So, yeah, my opinion does change, you know, and definitely as an author, I was afraid to write a follow-up to Lilly's where I said, whoa, I had more problems, because I thought people might say, well, if you're a self-care expert, look, your life was still a mess. But actually, the real truth is we all swing between these things and we all change our minds. And I think people can relate
Starting point is 00:22:04 to that because I'm not trying to make everything look really good minds. And I think people can relate to that because I'm not trying to make everything look really good. Well, I think that is so relatable and real. It just illustrates the fact that we are never done. And people ask me like, you must have the perfect relationship and the perfect sex. Like I'm totally, I am a real person.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I have the same struggles as everyone else said. Sometimes I don't want sex. Sometimes I don't feel great in my body. You know, it's like, you're never done. Coming back to how self-worth kind of affects our sex lives, well, this can also tie into the body of it, because I'm sure it helped you being in the bedroom with a bra that you felt good rather than not.
Starting point is 00:22:34 You told me that low self-worth makes authentic sex impossible. You were saying that you were having sex in the dark before, which I think is very relatable for so many people. So why is healing the relationship with yourself so important to having healthy intimacy with yourself and others? Yeah, I'm so glad you asked this question because I don't even think any like we know what intimacy is, first off, and then we second off, definitely don't know what intimacy is
Starting point is 00:23:02 if we are not intimate with ourselves. It always begins with us. And people are reluctant to do self-care because they're like, it's narcissistic and selfish and shouldn't you be helping the world? And I lovingly remind people, aren't you a member of your community? Aren't you a part of the world? If you are unhealthy, you are our weak link.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So let's localize this. Let's do what we actually can. Let's make change in the one place we absolutely know we can with ourselves and take responsibility. So self-care when done authentically and not like a day at the spa is always community care. And so if you can't be intimate with yourself, if you can't have some amount of body gratitude honesty like not having to fake your life having self compassion not beating yourself up all the time if you can't do those things how will you do the other people.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And it's a cliche for a reason you know if you can't love yourself. cliche for a reason. If you can't love yourself, it was really hard to love anyone else and it's tied to self-worth. What happens when we have low self-worth? We shrink from our lives, we put other people down, we're afraid to be vulnerable because we don't want to feel any worse. There are all these other consequences to having low self- worth that affect all of your relationships, not even just sexual, but literally every relationship in your life. And especially if it's intimate and sexual, because as you said, I could only have sex in the dark, all the lights off, no candles, like pitch black. I don't want you to see my body. That's not very sexy or inviting, either for me. Doesn't set the mood for me to feel like
Starting point is 00:24:50 I can experiment with things and be tender and soft when I'm bracing and scared. So it's not good for you, it's not good for your partner either because again, what does it say? I don't trust you, I'm scared, I'm entering into this as like the smallest version of myself, and I'm not knocking anyone who has sex in the dark, because again, I was there.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But now that I'm in the light and actually love myself, which, you know, I almost hesitate to say, because as I say it, it still sounds cheesy to me, but it's a huge accomplishment if you can just even like yourself. And it opens you up to be open and vulnerable and soft with the people around you. And so that's why self-worth is so tied to sex.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Because what is more intimate than sex? Very little. What does it say about our culture that we cringe when we say self-love? You know, like, take a step back and like, wait, why is that a cringey statement? You know, it's because we're told not to take care of ourselves, taking care of ourselves is selfish. We should do everything in the external world, but nothing internally.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's only like a six society where admitting that you actually have compassion for yourself is like so cringy and bad. And how dare she say that? Oh my God. Such a great point. What is wrong with us? Stay right where you are. After the break, Tara and I are answering all your questions. I would love your help answering listener questions. A lot of people are going in about body confidence and dating and we didn't even get into your dating stories, but I knew you'd be able to help us here because you have so many wonderful, relatable stories in the book. I would say they're wonderful, they're helpful.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Let's just say that. And you've been through- Well, they were terrible for me, but I'm glad they were helpful for you. They're a delight to read, but they didn't sound so much fun. I'm glad I wasn't there. This is from Ruby34 in New York.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Hey, Dr. Emily, I've been dealing with extreme disappointment in dating for several years now. Burnout doesn't feel like a strong enough word for it. I want to find a partner. I want to have the kind of amazing sex I've always craved. I'm open to the fact that those things don't have to happen at the same time or from the same person. Yet dating is a consistent disappointment. Whether I'm on apps, at single events, speed dating, matchmakers, you name it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I've tried it with no success, neither for relationships nor quality sex partners. I've said to my therapist, the most discouraging part is that no matter how much effort I put into dating or taking a break from dating or learning or working on myself, the other half, finding another person is still entirely out of my control. The best case scenario I can manage of my own volition is dodging bullets.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm at the point where I'm going to see a professional dom just to feel present in my sexuality again, which I feel no shame over, but that's not a financially viable long-term solution. I just don't know what to do anymore. I feel hopeless. Do you have any advice at all? Please. So just to recap here, basically Ruby is saying that she's burnt out with dating. She's kind of at this, it's never going to work. I'm trying to find a sex partner. I'm trying to find a long-term partner, matchmaker, speed dating, and she just can't find someone.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Sounds like she's done a lot of work, but she's at this point of burnout. And I know you've kind of been there, Tara. What would you say would be some steps to get her going here? First off, Ruby, this is 100% relatable to me. I'd say for 10 years was dating in a way that was just disappointment after disappointment. Relationships came to feel bad. They weren't fun.
Starting point is 00:28:41 They were just always a terrible experience. What I was craving was someone else to validate me. So I'd put up with basically anything as long as someone would do one nice thing for me. I basically, to quote Taylor Swift, I realized, hi, it's me. I'm the problem. It's me. I took a year off dating to be in therapy, to learn how to be with myself. I take myself on dates at restaurants. I mean, I experimented a little bit with vibrators and stuff like that. I wanted these things, but I thought,
Starting point is 00:29:16 if I can give them to myself, if I can get more intimate with this, I'm probably gonna have better luck in the external world. And by taking that year off, I really did. I pretty immediately fell in love and had a relationship, didn't end so well, but I got to feel what it was like to have a fun relationship again. So she mentions that she took some time off. I just ask, was it intentional?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Was it like intentional with I'm going to nurture myself or was it something's wrong with me and I'm alone and I'm just, I need to do this step. You know, did she make it lovely for herself? That would be my first question. And then I just think this is also Ruby is not alone. This is normal to me to feel this way about relationships. So I'd also just say, there's so many people with you on this one. Yeah, those are all great points there. Cause I feel like what's so relatable
Starting point is 00:30:16 is that she feels like she's tried it all. And then in reading this here, it says, she says it's a disappointment. She says she's dodging a bullet. Kind of feels, she says, it's a disappointment. She says she's dodging a bullet. Kind of feels like she thinks that everybody's a disappointment. And so I feel like that sort of two sides of the same coin here, she's saying like it's not been working out,
Starting point is 00:30:33 but also like to feel that everyone else's disappointment is another way of saying like, Ruby, you're probably not in a place where you're able to even see people right now. Like it's probably like, you're gonna find the negative in everybody because you've had a series of disappointments. And so really taking intentional time. And I did it years ago. I called it a manatorium. It was like a more term on men. And I announced
Starting point is 00:30:52 it on the show and I was like, I am taking six months and I am not dating. And I actively like having an accountability partner too was so helpful. I had my listeners. I was like, all right, week one, you know, week two. And the why it's so great is because you really could do all the things that you truly wanna do without even thinking about dating. I think that our society puts so much pressure on, if you're single, it's just a stopover, you should be with someone else,
Starting point is 00:31:15 you're only half a person right now. Such a relief too to say, I'm just taking this whole thing off the plate, like I'm gonna think about dating, what do I wanna do, Who am I without a partner and really taking steps, being accountable, whether it's like starting the course or looking for the new job or new workout routine or whatever it is that's just really about your mental health and your physical health or whatever it is that you need to work on and you do that for a period of time.
Starting point is 00:31:40 When you come back to it, it can't help but feel different, refreshed, renewed. And the people that you're going to find, you'll look at a lot differently. The people that are attracted to you and that you're attracted to are going to look a little bit different because you did something different to grow. If I could add one thing to this that really helped me, and I'm just sorry I didn't remember it immediately, was you're lucky to be single. I'm lucky to be single because there was a time in which, you know, women had to get married for financial support, protection, and it was just what was done.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And now the fact that we have options and that you can lead a life where you support yourself and get to spend time with yourself and get to know yourself, there's a different way to look at this, which is, wow, go you, use this time super wisely, feel gratitude for that. And honestly, that probably more than anything, it was the break and then, whoa, I'm lucky, not whoa, what do I lack that flipped the script.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And like you said, almost immediately, I found a completely different kind of relationship. Yeah. I think they're all tied together. I can't imagine that that's a coincidence. I feel the same way. I always really actually like being single to a fault, but it is true when you reframe that, you really can just get a high on just off of like your life alone. And you are very grateful.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like I know that my mom's generation like couldn't get credit cards on their own, like couldn't get credit cards. So it was just a different time. And this is still fairly new when you think about it. Recent generations that we can actually thrive, be alone. There's more single people than ever before living alone. And I think that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Rather than being toxic relationships we can't get out of. Okay, speaking of toxic. Amen. Yeah, speaking of toxic relationships though, let's help April. She's 35 in Los Angeles. Hello, Dr. Emily. I got out of a toxic and abusive relationship about two years ago. I've been ready to get out there to start casually dating for a while now, but it just isn't happening. I've gained some weight, which has made me much more self-conscious.
Starting point is 00:33:42 When I go out with friends, they're always being hit on and asked out and I never get asked out, which makes my confidence so much worse. How can I start dating again? Thanks. All right, April, thank you so much for your question. Again, highly relatable to be out of a toxic relationship, start dating, but then not feeling that great about yourself, right? And thinking that your body is a thing that's going to keep you from dating. And how about this, Tara, that you think once I lose the weight, then I can date. once I lose the weight, then I can date. Once I get the job, then I can date. I hear that from a lot of people, right?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Once I get my whole life together, then I can date. Or once I heal toxicity. First off, you know, she just got out of it. Maybe there's some time that she needs to heal. Again, just to our same advice to Ruby, like maybe she's not ready yet. Maybe there's some work to do if she just got out of it. What are some things that have helped you
Starting point is 00:34:28 with confidence in this way, Tara? I think the main thing that I'm zoom in on is she says about her friends, they're always being hit on and asked out. And I just question that when you find yourself saying, always, it never happens forever. I'm like this forever. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Can you not think of one time where you were hit on or flirted with, like really think about it and question yourself. Is this actually true? And I would bet money that this is not actually true for April, that there have been instances, but that she's down on herself. So she needs to open up the aperture and see, wait, there was that great person that I dated. Wait, I remember when this person came up to me
Starting point is 00:35:13 and asked a question. And really when it's black and white, question it. I love what you said about the black and white question. There's two things I wanna see. First, you made me think about this is a side note. In relationships, if you ever say to your partner or if you're dating someone, you're like, black and white question. There's two things I want to see. First, you made me think about this is a side note in relationships. If you ever say to your partner or if you're dating someone you're like, you always do this, you never do this, you know, every single time you do it, you automatically
Starting point is 00:35:34 can put your partner on the defensive, a friend on the defensive, your colleague, your co-worker, you talking that way isn't helpful in life, but certainly not helpful for ourselves. So I love that you pulled that out, Tara, that's such a big one. And the second one I want to remind her is that she says she has gained weight, which has made herself conscious when she goes out with my friends. And so therefore she's already walking in the bar with her friends and she's already self-conscious looking for her friends to succeed and she's not. I don't think she's ready to go out yet. Like why put yourself through that? Is there even a little ritual or something?
Starting point is 00:36:06 Even for me, when I'm going anywhere where I'm not feeling great, my best self, I've learned that for me, what helps is I will sit in the car and I will breathe for three minutes. I have this breathing app or I'll count to 10. I will remember a few positive affirmations to try to reframe and get myself in a mindset. I do some somatic like shaking sometimes or some tapping to get myself out of a negative state. I have enough experience knowing that when I show up somewhere in a bad place, it's not going to serve anyone, certainly myself.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So maybe there's some kind of pre-going out ritual she could do to get back into her body. I love that. We got you here, April. Keep us posted. I love that you wrote in and that you're willing to do the work here. It takes a while to get out of these toxic places, right? It's like a condition we go through. It's an experience and it's not so easy to shake some of that off. This next one is from Zuzaana35 in London. Hey, Dr. Emily, I hope you're well.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Thanks for all you do. My question is, how do I go about sexual explorations when I'm healing from trauma and don't have a partner? I've spent my entire adult life recovering from trauma. I've had great sex with my first boyfriend, but have since really shut down and rarely had a good time with a partner. Now I feel ready to become a woman,
Starting point is 00:37:19 have some fun, pleasurable, exploratory sex, but I don't have a partner and don't want to wait for commitment or commit to someone just for the sex of it. Where do I start? What questions do I ask myself and other people? What is safe sex for someone who's worried about sex triggering trauma responses? Please help. All right, Giordana, thanks for your question.
Starting point is 00:37:39 The first thing that I want to say, a lot of us have traumas and sexual traumas and it does make it hard to connect to a partner for sure. And what I want to say was I would love to have a practice where you can link sex to your own pleasure, to yourself, rather than linking it up to somebody else. And that's why I'm a huge fan of solo sex. So I would highly encourage you to continue or to start a healthy solo sex practice so your arousal and your desire and your orgasms can be connected to something that you are able to provide yourself.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And that also just helps with confidence and love for our bodies and acceptance for our bodies when we see how much they can do. Going into a body gratitude practice about, wow, I can give myself orgasms, you know, is an amazing thing to do. So I would just recommend that you want to keep that going. We have to keep our own pilot lights lit, whether with a partner or not.
Starting point is 00:38:31 But what about the part about what can she ask herself and other people, safe sex in a trauma response? Is there anything that's relatable to you here, Tara? Yeah, I would say if you're afraid that you're gonna be having trauma responses Don't push yourself if you already know. Oh, no, this is gonna trigger me You need to work on the trigger not push yourself and then condemn yourself for like, oh, why am I crying? This is so bad Don't put yourself in that position to begin with and I think one way you can do that is exactly you're saying Emily is begin with. And I think one way you can do that is exactly what you're saying, Emily, is solo sex. It's so important, especially for those of us who have been through issues
Starting point is 00:39:11 that really have affected our sexuality, that we get comfortable and safe, safe with ourselves. To me, that's what I hear under this question is how can I find safety? And for better or worse, the first place you find safety, real everlasting safety is with yourself. So finding confidence, finding self-worth, getting over this abusive relationship, forgiving herself that she's having these things. It's just normal to have trauma responses like this. And she doesn't need to re-traumatize herself
Starting point is 00:39:44 by forcing it. I think we just need to re-traumatize herself by forcing it. I think we just need to be way more gentle with ourselves and when we suffer, recognize it. It's such a great point that like we, I feel like this has been sort of a theme here. Like we're pushing ourselves. I need to be dating. I have to be out there.
Starting point is 00:39:57 What do I do? But I'm not ready. Well, if you're not ready, like, what else do you need to know there? Right? And the other thing before we get into safety, cause I do want to get into safety for a minute.
Starting point is 00:40:07 All of your writings on safety really resonated with me and others. But the first thing I want to talk about is I often recommend to people who have trauma and specifically sexual trauma or really any trauma, but here is sexual trauma is EMDR therapy, which I've done and I know you've done and it's trauma therapy. And I've heard you talk about it. Another thing that you were kind of weary of, but it was very helpful for you. So maybe you could talk about your experience with it. Yeah. First off, it sounds completely fake and witchy in not a good way, like in a used car salesman kind of way. Like there's something off because what they tell
Starting point is 00:40:40 you about EMDR is that they're gonna stimulate bilateral stimulation. So like what does that look like? When I'm with my therapist it looks like I put two Post-it notes on my computer and I sweep my eyes from Post-it note to Post-it note to the sound of a metronome. And there are lots of different ways. Now you tell me how that is gonna be helpful. That just sounds fake, but it had been recommended to me as one of the best ways to get over trauma. I was very reluctant. I started researching the hell out of it,
Starting point is 00:41:14 and it turned out it was one of the ways that people get over PTSD from war. The government is saying, this is legit, this works in the most extreme case. And I thought, well, if it's good enough for veterans i can give it a try. And the idea behind it is that our brains can heal themselves and we actually know that from neuroscience that we have no plasticity which means we can rewire how we think and what we think about ourselves. You know, you were saying the positive affirmations. The reason that positive affirmations as cheesy as they are at work is because they build new neural pathways
Starting point is 00:41:52 and undo the stories that you have now made true about yourself. Because if you think I'm ugly, sex sucks, I'm never gonna find a partner, how do you start behaving? Right, we behave on what we think. So chances are you're making that true for yourself. And until you step back, rewire your brain,
Starting point is 00:42:12 which is completely possible with practice, you're gonna keep making the same mistakes that are hurtful and painful and that you don't want. So EMDR, the idea is that your therapist isn't even giving you insights. In talk therapy, you say, oh, this happened and this happened. And then your therapist says, yes, what do you think about your father? Could you see that maybe it's about your dad, right? The therapist doesn't say anything even near that. The therapist is just there to guide your brain
Starting point is 00:42:42 healing itself. And it works. I mean, Emily, you know. Yeah, it really does work. I've been seeing its praises for so long. But the funny thing is, you were doing it on Zoom, which I had to do that as well with the metronome during the pandemic. But it's funny enough, it seems like everything in my life come back to vibrators. I did it with buzzers in my hand, but I have basically a vibrator in each hand. And I'm like, buzz, buzz, buzz. I'm like, of course, it's always a vibrator, but that's how we did it. But it really, the same thing. It's almost like your brain can change. And what I found is thoughts or events that would normally trigger something from me just no longer did. I'm like, wow, that person called me and it had no effect on me. And that's
Starting point is 00:43:24 how you know it's working. And it isn't a lot of like, tell me about this. It's less talking and it's more feeling and it's more embodied and it's more somatic. And I just, I think it's like, it is the best, some of the best therapy out there. So highly recommend it. I do love the way you talk about safety. It's very relatable to my journey too in the sense of, you know, you were saying in your book, like you talk about having a high tolerance for being unsafe, like people would say to you, that's so brave you camp in the desert alone.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That's so brave you take these risks. I had a lot of that too. And I'm always doing these things, and you're like, wow, you're brave. I'm like, I literally don't even think of it as brave. I just grew up with not a lot of emotional safety growing up and some physical safety. So then in a way it makes me brave,
Starting point is 00:44:08 but also when we don't feel safe in our bodies, also really hard to feel safe in the bedroom. It's hard to let go. It's hard to let ourself have pleasure. You can talk about your journey a little bit. Absolutely. Yeah, I didn't even know safety was a thing. I was in Zion camping alone,
Starting point is 00:44:24 which I didn't even think twice about. You know, I'll pick up and move to Arizona. I'll camp alone in Zion. I'll go on a two week vacation to Buenos Aires and not tell anybody. And my friends are like, wait, what? That's so brave. And no, it's just, I never even thought to do differently. And so I was on this camping trip, camping, I use generously. I was going into town to get takeout food and I'm waiting for my burrito When I hear this dad talking to his family and he says to his kids Sons, we're gonna go canyoneering tomorrow. I don't really know what that is But I've hired a guide to take us. So even when you're scared, he's done it hundreds of times,
Starting point is 00:45:06 you're going to be safe." And I was like, mind blown. Parents tell their kids they're going to be safe and do something to make sure that their kids are safe. I mean, I grew up in a house, I said where things came to die, it was also an open construction site for most of my life where you'd see the insulation and the drywall ripped open and it was on a literal shaky foundation. It was a very unsafe place to grow up. And so after this, I realized, oh wait, that's one of the primary jobs of a parent is to make their kids feel safe. Because I was told over and over again that I might get raped or murdered or kidnapped by my mom. There was a lot of crime also when I was growing up. I was just surrounded with messages of how unsafe the world was. Nobody ever did anything about it. Nobody
Starting point is 00:45:57 was like, well, I'll protect you. And so what I've come to realize is that so many of us walk through this world with a low key anxiety about our safety and outside our door. I don't have to tell anybody. We've all been here the past three years. Some things are really unsafe. You know, if you're feeling anxious, there's a real reason why and it's in the physical world. But we need to build a sense of safety for ourselves because the situations around us we can't control, but we can find peace and home inside of us that we can take into all these situations. And for me, the easiest way to do that is actually by journaling, by creating a physical safe space for all your emotions, by putting it on the paper, seeing that it doesn't overwhelm
Starting point is 00:46:46 you, seeing that you have a place just to be yourself repetitively every day, builds a sense of safety within yourself that you can take anywhere. And so, you know, as you said, it's impossible to be intimate with yourself or anyone else, if you're eight out of 10 worried about your safety, but don't even know that, just you experience it somatically as a low key dread, anxiety, feeling scared, and we really, it's essential, it's foundational to have a sense of safety. It's hard to dream or hope or do anything
Starting point is 00:47:24 when you're like, oh my God, am I going to be okay? It's such a great point. And I think it's something for people to look at now in relationships. Do you feel safe? Is it something that's really comes up in your life as a theme? Because I think that we just don't often think that it's even a factor, but again, that could go back to a trauma. Like I think that we talk a lot about trauma, but it actually is relevant. It's a way of dealing with emotions that we never really processed or events in our life. And we all have them, right?
Starting point is 00:47:49 I mean, everyone has them. So, and then I think safety is a big part of those traumas. So learning to feel safe. I love all your journal prompts and the way you even encourage me. Don't you also like offer this for people? They could journal with you. Yes. I have a journaling club. It's called the Glow Getters.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's on my sub stack, which is my newsletter, where I give prompts every week. We meet up and work on ourselves. But even if you just want a journaling practice and you don't have one yet, or you want to tune up yours, journaling is my passion. I friggin' love this community. My shout out for journaling that I want to give right now is it's also science backed.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Again, it's not some soft blanket. It's not that way. It's scientifically proven, clinically proven over and over and over again. One of the best things you can do for anxiety, depression, even physical ailments, they've seen people heal faster if they're journaling because their cortisol levels are lower, their immune systems, they feel good about themselves. They have less stressors, so the body's actually able to heal itself naturally. Just Google NIH, National Institutes of Health,
Starting point is 00:49:09 studies on journaling. The stuff is widely available, and so the reason I'm so passionate about journaling is because it changed my life. It's scientifically backed, and I know it can change others, and I just wanna help people on that journey, for lack of a better word. Now, are you of the camp, I believe that you are, that should be pen to paper and not typing?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Absolutely. Yeah. Don't type it. I'm with you. Because it's the mind-body connection. That's it. You just can't. It slows you down. Oh my God. So helpful. Tara, you have so many great tips. I just love having you on the show. I have to ask you the five quickie questions we ask all of our guests and then we're going to let people know where they can hang out with you. Okay. First thing that comes to mind, ready? Your biggest turn on.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Ooh, glasses. I like a man in glasses. Biggest turn off? Smoking. What makes good sex? The lights on. Something you would tell your younger self about sex and relationships. This can be really fun and pleasurable.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And if you're having a horrible, disappointing time every single time, maybe pause for like one minute and address the underlying issue. What's the number one thing you wish everyone knew about sex? That it can feel so good. Because I didn't know that until like this year even that it could be so pleasurable and that someone else could give me such pleasure. I didn't know that that was in the past. Until this year, we didn't cover that. I think we have to real quickly. What happened this
Starting point is 00:50:39 year? Can you tell us what happened this quarter? Yeah. I was dating someone who Emily actually even knows. He had explored his own sexuality and spent a lot of time doing so. He was kind of like an expert on things that were maybe a little more kinky. I was always like, I'm not kinky. That's not me. Then we actually used your yes, no, maybe list and started openly talking about it, which was another thing I had never done before
Starting point is 00:51:12 and being playful and experimental. And I felt safe in myself and I felt safe around him. So for the first time ever, I took like more of a step into some kink and some stuff I had never thought about before. And oh my God. I was like, wow, my body can do these things? The relationship ended in a disaster,
Starting point is 00:51:34 which is a completely different story. But just for the sexual experience and the awakening, I'll take it. Tara, I'm so thrilled to hear that. The Yes No Maybe list for the win. People love the Yes No Maybe list. Tara, I'm so glad that you were able to have that experience this year. Right? Thank you. Thanks for being part of what gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm here for you. That list. I love the list. We love the list. We'll also put that in the show notes, but tell people where they can find you, Tara, and join you on your journey here. So you can find my book anywhere books are sold, Target, Amazon, your local independent bookstore. My new book is Glow in the Fucking Dark. And if you enjoyed this, I think you'll enjoy Glow in the Fucking Dark.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And then if you want to be in a conversation with me, join my newsletter, which you could Google Tara Schuster newsletter, or go to tarashuster.substack.com. And that's where I have the journaling club. And that's where I'm talking to readers all the time. I'm also on Instagram, but the sub stack's where it's at. And we're gonna link all things Tara in the show notes. Thank you for being here Tara, I adore you. Thank you, Emily.
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