Sex With Emily - More Than Just Your Average Porno with Erika Lust

Episode Date: September 13, 2019

On today’s show, Emily is joined by adult filmmaker Erika Lust & they’re talking about finding porn that works for you & how to make it work for your partner, too. They discuss why having porn that depicts different stages of life can actually help mental health (& is actually really hot), what it’s like to create porn that’s also a documentary, & the pros & cons to VR porn videos. Follow Emily on all social: @sexwithemilyFor even more sex talk, tips, & tricks visit sexwithemily.comFor more info on Erika Lust, click HERE.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

with porn being so available and that's all people are saying now. Now we've generations who really were saying in the last 12 years, right? They've even grown up on it. Yeah. So it's yeah. And they and they start to expect what they have seen online, you know, that's kind of how the brain works. It's like if you have seen lots of hours of porn before you even start having sex, then of course, you think that that is the way you should have sex. That's where it's so important for adult people to talk to younger generations. Don't tell them you cannot watch it. Tell them when you watch it you should be aware that in these images that it's first of all it's very exaggerated fiction. It's not the same as sex. This is somehow like when you watch a movie and you see

Superman and he is flying, you know, remember that. And then you have to think about how it's made and who's making it. And with what values they are making it. Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily. This is Dr. Emily. And today's show I'm joined by adult filmmaker Erica Lust and we're talking about finding porn that works for you and how to make it work for your partner too. Topics include, why having porn that depicts different stages of life from seniors to pregnancy helps mental health and is really hot. What it's like to create a porn that is also a documentary and what we can learn

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You can also find me on serious sex and stars Monday through Friday, 5 to 7 PM Pacific, get a free 30 day trial at sexathemly.com slash SXM. And it's always find me in all social media. It's at sexathemly across the board. All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed this show with Eric Alust. Eric Alust, welcome to the show. I'm so excited. I've been looking forward to this for months.

I saw you were coming. I was like, she has to come on the show again. It was so people loved our last podcast. They did. They did. Oh my God, we had the best discussion. It was really. That was.

Yeah, a lot of fun. I remember. Yeah, it was like a highlight. It was like, oh god. I mean, just also because we're sort of obsessed with you here, because I really don't know anybody who you are changing the game of pornography. I'm trying. I'm in there trying to do everything I can to do something different.

Yeah. And I think we need it more than ever now. I feel like even in the last year, I'm feeling like there's been more and more negative repercussions from mainstream porn. Like I'm hearing like every day there's a story coming out about how men are choking women without asking and they're all the things that they're doing and I just feel like, you know, I've always been partial porn. I'm like, well, it could be helpful for couples.

It could be, but now I feel like we're almost entering a different territory where I'm nervous. And I just say the only porn I will let you guys talk about. I want everyone to see his air colostum. Aw, that's so sweet. Well I'm glad you put it, but it's true. I mean, porn is becoming so influential. It's out there and it's growing all the time.

Yeah. I think we talked about it, you know, when we saw each other a year ago, that it's already won one third of the internet. But I would have what I'm seeing more and more and more is that people, and especially young people, what they are doing is that they go online and they think that watching porn they're going to get sex education. Right. And it doesn't really work that well in that sense.

No, it's not sex education at all. And it was never meant to be a theater. Right, exactly. So that's really why I love the work that you're doing right now. And then since I've seen you last, so last time we were here, we were talking about your ex-confession sites, where people you started in 2013, right? Yes.

We've all sent in fantasies, and then you made them into actual films. And now I hear you have an app. I also have an app, yes, because people wanted to, you know, play the game for themselves, kind of at home. And people are having so much struggle to have these conversations about sex. Like, what can we do that is fun and a little like, you

know, these ideas, like what do you like and what are you into? So the whole idea with this app, it's kind of, it's showing you different cards and then you can swipe left or swipe right, whether if you want, if you want to try, you want to try something you want to do or not. And then you can connect with your partner or your couple and you can even connect with multiple couples if you want, you know, that's a new feature. So it's kind of like a descriptive,

people could choose, and if they match on a fantasy, they can get this idea of things that they would like. And then you, with your partner, if you connect, you can see the cards that both of you liked. So you, you know, you see, okay, this is something. Was it a date and an app actually? Or it's by partner or anyone. No, it's not really dating

because it's not with people you don't know, you connect with a person that you know but it can be a new partner, it can be an old partner. It's great, for example, in long-lasting relationships because sometimes, you know, sex goes down a little and sometimes you want to do it every time in most relationships. Well, I think that already it's almost all relationships has their ups and downs, right? And it's not only, it's not only how you feel about that person necessarily. It's many times it's about how you feel about yourself

and in what situation are you in your life and with your sexuality. How do you connect to yourself? I just think that any tools, because you're so right, even my whole show, you know, I always say communication is a lubrication. Most of what I talk about is this is how you say it.

This is how you ask for what you want and this is how you get there. But so many people with us where I love porn and I love the work that you're doing is, there's a lot of people who don't know. They literally, they're like, well, I know that it's not working now, but I actually don't even know what's on the menu

to choose from to make it more interesting. So in a sense, that's what X Confessions does, that's what all your work does. And it sounds like that's what the app is gonna do. But it's like, oh, this is a fantasy that, you know, so give me an example, can you tell like what fantasies are popular on there? Yeah, well, watch that, this is a fantasy that, you know, so give me an example. Can you tell like what fantasies are popular on there? Yeah, well, I watch fantasies are popular.

It's always, you know, the power plays. They are obviously very popular. People like the idea of playing, you know. It's like games and seeing, okay, so this time you will be the submissive this time. I'm the dominant, you know, those fantasies are common. The most common. But then you mentioned spanking before, I think it's something that lots of people actually have thought about, but maybe they are not

really sure if it's something they are into or not or they are not sure how, you know, how, how can you propose that to your partner? And then maybe, you know, if you choose this card and then he they'd also choose this card, it's easier to start that. You know, you know, if you choose this card and then he, they'd also choose this card, it's easier to start that. You're like, well, I guess we have to spend today. Like, we're both like the same thing. We can't even pick the same restaurant. We like, but we both want to spend.

So like, let's try that. Let's try it out. Just like a win-win, I guess we should do that. But then there's also, you know, this kind of of other people getting involved, you know, do you want to start party maybe to come into the game? Should that third party be a man or a woman? Then there's different cards.

So you can decide what is up for you. So it's the card. So it's not like it's actually connecting you with a third. It's offering a third to kind of build upon the fantasy in that moment. So you could have a third on that. But it's just more like, I get this, because people call in all the time

or they email in and they're like, we want every three sim, but we haven't decided how to find the person, or if it's gonna be a man or woman, but this is kind of like a build your own fantasy using the app and they can make it happen. You start it, but then there are also cards that are more simple, you know?

Not all of them are like getting more people involved or getting into advanced power play. There are also cards like, I would love a sex type for my birthday or, you know, that kind of easy stuff that some people need to start from the beginning, obviously. Yeah, exactly. Well, this is what I love too about the work you're doing because I feel like it's, um, and I feel like it's, and I can't emphasize enough, and we might cover some of the same stuff. We have so many new listeners too, all the time, that I can't help but talk about, I don't know any whilst I was doing, as well as you're doing,

and presenting this to people, and now even like, you just met my niece, who's 19, and we were talking about a lot of this stuff on the show about men, and it's just, these are silly things, but just in watching some of your porn author, I'm like, she's like, I haven't seen it, I don't wanna see porn. I'm like, no, we were watching some last few days

and it's like, I'm like, this is my sound silly, but this is every age. I said, see, it was a scene in X Confessions where it was a fantasy where the woman's being painted by a man, by a first of all, it makes you wanna go to Europe like tomorrow, get painted by a beautiful man. But I said, you see, it's seductive and he's painted. makes you want to go to Europe like tomorrow get painted by a beautiful man. But um, but I said you see he's it's seductive and he's painted. That was a fantasy was to be painted

right by a bian artist and he's painted and he's lying her down and then he's going down on her. He's performing role sucks on her. And I said come over and look at this. I said do you see that? She's not she's yeah, usually the blow jobs come first. I'm like no, but like they don't have to. They don't have to. I'm making them look so beautiful. This scene isn't usually, you know, so I don't know. I just think that it just, but it's all this society so focused on male pleasure, you know, from porn to other media. Everything is about, you know, men and their pleasure and their inner, just the center

symbol, you know. Right. So I think that what we really need to do is changing that and start thinking from our perspective, what do we want? What do we want? What do we want? What do we want? Good for us.

What is our pleasure? And then thinking that sex doesn't have to be so mechanical, it doesn't have to be this formulas that many of us have learned in porn. Right, exactly. Sex is not only penetration, sex is not only blow jobs, sex is everything, sex is emotional, sex is touching, sex is teasing, teasing, know teasing sex is sharing ideas and fantasies sex can be you know a massage why not yeah black can't that be

let's just leave it to the music I love massage right me too it's the best I mean how do you really if you really want to connect with someone if you want you know that person to be in a particularly good mood. Yes. Start with a massage. I mean, there's nothing else good as a massage. Nothing.

And that's going to release all the tension since stress is our biggest, you know, killer of our sex drive and the biggest deterrent. If you just even a light massage for five minutes, you're going to get your partner there. Skin against skin. And that is, you know, when all these points connect to each other, right? Right. No, I know. It's really beautiful.

And I think that that's why also watching some of your work really just is the inspiration for people figuring out what they want. But why is it that you think that so many women, and I guess some men too, but I feel it more women that like I just don't know enough all ages. They just don't really know what they want. Well, sadly enough, I think it's because

they have focused so much on what men want. It's, you know, the way we have grown up when we start having sex, I think that so many women instead of really thinking about themself, they start thinking, how can I please him? How can I make him happy? So many women out there, they even think that sex is about him somehow. You know, we just, we never, we never, yeah, we never learned any differently.

It's just very interesting to me. So taking time, I guess, to try to listen to your inner voice. And then I think it's a lot about talking to other women and to hearing about their fantasies and how they connect with their bodies and with their self-pressure. I made this film a couple of months ago. It's called The Female Pleasure Circle. And it's kind of, it's erotic, obviously. It's adult, you know, but it's also kind of a documentary and it's six women. Okay. And it's about them and how they live masturbation and how they live,

you know, their orgasms and how they feel about sex. And you hear their stories, their very personal stories of how they started, how they kind of found out that they were sexual beings. So you hear, for example, this woman telling that she found out when she got her bike and she was starting to, you know, to sit on the bike and she was rob to not sit on the bike and she was rubbing her clitoris and she realized that this was giving her pleasure and that was one of her first experiences or this other woman saying that she was traveling a lot with her family and they went to hotels and at the hotels there were always kind of books left and then she started to read books and one day she picked up this erotic book and she realized that she got horny reading this book and that was the way she connected with her sexuality and there's

also stories about a girl who went to Catholic school and how she got turned on by all these, you know, images of the saints. And then she probably felt bad about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the story she's like oh my god Jesus he is actually a very sexy guy. You know that's kind of how I connect that I'm gonna watch that one but just this way of

having all these women telling their intimate stories it really made me realize that we don't have those conversations. We don't have these conversations. I think that is such a great place to start from because I feel like since we don't know and we don't know where to go that's why like on my podcast or on my radio show, on your point, it's very hard to do the work on our own. So I think I want to give women a little bit of like, it's okay, you're not alone that you don't know, you're not broken.

And also, the good news is, however you learn, it could be visual, it could be watching one or two of your films, you'd be like, oh, I get it. There's this is the fuel that I needed this does inspire me now I realize that and it could even allow them to eradicate shame like maybe they thought Jesus was sexy And they didn't know like oh, now I feel normal or they were riding a bike that's so common Or they're in the shower and it kind of normalizes and then it builds on it like it's like Oh, that was my first time, but now here's how I can touch myself. And this is, and just learning to watch how all these women are touching themselves.

There was like zero instruction manual for women how to do this, or some people like to listen, or they like to read words, they want to just read erotica, and we all get turned on differently. And I think the problem is that we sometimes just don't do any of the work, because we actually don't know where to start, because there aren't many of you out there. And also realizing that porn can be for us, because I also think that there's lots of resistance out there, because as there's so much bad porn kind of, we have all come across it,

and then you feel like porn is just for that group of men who enjoy kind of exploiting women's bodies, and it's all kind of tits and ass and it's not really for me But then there are good porn, you know there it exists. It's out there. There's independent You know have wrought to get out on the internet the problem is that it's very difficult to find it if you don't know where to You know look for well, I mean I only know I I stick with you I mean that's you're who I know I'm sure that I hope that there's other women. I hope you're mentoring women too.

I'm sure you are. I do. And what I'm also mentoring women, I'm giving budgets to other women also to make their movies and to become directors and to dare with this genre. I think that's amazing. It's part of our guest directed project for X Confessions, you know, I think I told you. We did. We were going to do it last year.

My ex boyfriend, we were going to come to Barcelona, but now I'm taking two weeks, I don't know if you're going to be, we'll talk about it. We're happy. It wasn't like a bullshit. It was like, I really want to do this. I've been thinking about it. But yeah, so it's, it's directors and now in the United States in the US You now have a cinema less than a year with US directors. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay Because I realized that X Confession is great and it's wonderful that for many Americans it feels very European

It feels very arty and I mean we have all these Performers talking all different languages, you know, we have films in Italian and in German and in French and in Spanish and I'm seeing that the American audience, they kind of crave and want something similar here but you know, And I have a cinema online called lascinema.com where I have been gathering movies from lots of different directors for many years now actually and it's a line-sensor movies and you know it's kind of an online cinema. But we are starting now to produce originals. So from September we would start to release original films that we have made with many American directors, female directors and with American performers. And these films are a little different from X-Confessions because X-Confessions is more like the short film format and these are more narrative films. So it's more of the feature film, you know, kind of story line films. Okay. And longer, longer, longer, around an hour and a half,

you know, and they get into a narrative, they get to know the characters, you get to follow them on their adventures. Some are films and some are serious. But it's sexual. It's sexual. It's going on there. But the funny, what I like so much about it is that it gives me time to develop characters. To really take the time to get to know these characters. And to treat them because what I've

seen so much in kind of amazing porn that's out there is that they normally do this kind of very cartoonish characters and I want to do it real you know. With depth and with good filmmaking and with, you know, a great storyline. And realistic sexies. Yeah, we're at this. So if you have an hour and a half, you can actually have time to see how it unfolds and then their emotional connection. I think that would be amazing to see a film like that. I don't think I have.

No, but you're gonna want to. But I'm because it's coming up and I just shot last month. I shot in Barcelona actually, but I flew American actors to Barcelona And I shot my first film for La Cinema and it's called the intern and it's a yeah, you said your knees Like this is being an intern, I saw it on your side. I was like, I don't think we should watch it Is there a out right, it's not out. I read about it. Editing of this moment.

I love the name. I love the name. I sound sexy. Yeah. I was an intern. I was an intern in DC. Who watched DC? Who was an intern?

I'm not an exciting. It wasn't that exciting. But, okay, so how does the US market differ than your opinion? What do the Americans want? Well, I think they want to recognize themselves somehow, so they want people not talking with all this broken accents. I guess I can see that. That is one thing. I think that they really like the narrative, you know?

Not that conceptual, maybe not that arty, a little more of storyline and the character development. Yeah, that makes sense, that totally makes sense. Going back to this with porn, I just can't, like, you've noticed this as well, maybe in the last year or so, even that there's been more studies,

there's been more concern. I have more people, because since I've seen you last, I have a national show now, Five Nights a Week, on satellite radio. I don't think I had that. Congratulations. Thank you.

It's amazing. It's a whole different audience in the sense of like, my podcast listeners are all over the world, and there are just a different, people are driving in their cars listening, and it's just a little bit different, but I'm just finding on this daily basis, talking to people that it's just more and more parents are calling in and even younger people with, you know, who are only, you know, in their early 20s who

are only watching porn and now having like erectile problems or they're having, they don't want to leave the house because they're just watching porn. I just feel like I'm, I almost feel like there's more of a, like I said earlier, like more of a crisis mode. I'm concerned I'm concerned about what it's doing. We can't stop. I don't know how we stop it But I want to get your porn into more into more hands is what I'm saying But I just do you hear from people all the time do people I want to help you they want your porn I hear from people all over here from people telling me hey Eric gag great I seen your films how can I help you can I do? I already told all my friends, but what else can I do?

Kind of, you know, and I think that lots of it is about, you know, being Realizing how the industry kind of works. What has happened with the whole talk about the camera? I can talk about that. Yeah, definitely, I don't know if people might not understand really what I'm like, listen, you guys, it's from the male gaze. Erickas porn is from the female, it's more realistic from the female gaze for women by women, but also it's already in its beautiful, but from your perspective, why else is regular mainstream

porn? Well, I think a lot changed the last, let's say, 10 to 12 years, because before then, porn was kind of made by companies and it was behind a payment barrier, of course, but then, you know, this kind of big company got started called Mind Geek, you know, they are based in Canada Montreal and they are today the owners of most of the tube sites out there. Actually, there's a monopoly going on, you know, they are, they are so most of those monopoly, exactly, of most of those, those sites that you probably know by name, you know, it's not that I'm going to mention, but we all know what we are talking about. But we all know what we are talking about. And I think that what is happening is that they have this formula where they are saying

that porn now is for free, but actually it's really not because most of what the content actor is stolen content, you know. And as a content provider, you have to ask them to take down your content if you find your content if you find your content up there. And I do that regularly, but my friends get uploaded all the time because it's the system works, because users are uploading content, right? And they are not checking if they are actually allowed to update. So that's a problem, that is a problem we have, because all this content is just out there for anyone to click on at any time. And I think that as a

society we have to be aware that we should be more responsive, we should be more responsive. We should be more responsive. We should think about this. Just what we are watching. What are you watching? Who is behind it? What would you see in mainstream? That you wouldn't see in your porn, for example. Well, and you see a lot of racist play, for example, that you wouldn't ever see in my films.

I think that on all these sites, the way that they are categorizing people into groups, I kind of fetishizing on every possible aspects on who we are, you know, on different body types, on different ethnic backgrounds, etc. You know, everything its Asians is it's Latina, it's... It's a perpetrator, I know. It's a very tiring, I think. So that is something that we are definitely not doing. We are just treating people as people. And then you talked about it before.

It's a male gaze. Everything is from a male perspective. The language that they are using is very harsh, very aggressive, especially towards women. They are talking about, you know, destroying, or even destroying tiny pulses, right? You know, this kind of a very horrible language, destroying, banging, nailing, you know, this kind of construction work.

Right. And it's more about punishments. I mean, it's a horrible word to say, but it feels to me many times that it's more about punish fucking women than about people actually, you know, having a great sexual experience together, which I should be. It should be connection. It should be energy, which is what I think you capture in a lot of your films, that it's just, it's that connection.

And you see that it's a real, consensual, beautiful exchange of energy and not that it's not hot, and there's not BDSM and stuff, but it's just, it just feels just more like, you feel better about yourself when you're watching it and you feel good and you feel turned on You know, there's so much about porn that I think that even some men watching it don't even like it like they're watching But they can't help but watch it but that's all they know and it's perpetuating maybe some seed about I don't know We're all the you know something about men. I Don't know this hatred towards women or they didn't love their mother or their ones And then it's like hate fucking and all this stuff. It's just it's just not healthy

And it's just going a little kernel what might be in the back of some men's brain. And I think that many people are using it to kind of for too to calm down their anxiety that it's not even about The sexual experience somehow that they are just going online and opening kind of window after window after window and just kind of watching people bang bang bang bang bang bang bang but it's not like a mindful sexual experience you know I think that sex needs to take its time that you kind of I mean for me it's more like you need your time and your space and Build up and build up and and all of that Yeah, the touch of the kissing like emphasizing like the kissing and the touching and the slowness. Yeah, slow sex

Yeah, yeah, feeling it and experiencing it not only with your body, but also with your mind Okay guys, we're gonna take a quick break and we come back even more Erica lost. Let's talk about the actors that you work with. How do you prep them? How do you work with them differently, you think? Well, I think it's your philosophy. It's almost, it's the whole process, it's everything. It's from how I get in contact with them, how I choose them, how I get to know them, how I try to figure out who they are, what they like, with what other people they would like to work with, because I think that the best sexiness you get

when you have people who are really into each other, who have that connection. And I mean most of the performers out there, they have favorite co-workers. If you ask them if you say, hey, who would you like to work with? Right. Well, give you a list of names. And that's a wonderful way of knowing that they are, you know, into each other really. And then for me, it's about about finding a match when it comes to characters for them, you know, if I'm looking for for someone in particular,

I need maybe a person who has that kind of sexuality in themselves. So already, you know, it's very difficult to put a dominant person in a submissive role or a submissive person as a domino. You know, that doesn't really work. You need to find, you know, the right mix for people. And then it's about, you know, working with them through the process of creating the characters, trying to figure out who are they what their sexuality, what are they into? How can we all construct that sexual situation and energy together? And then of course taking care of all the health aspects. I mean every actor that I work with, they are health testing regularly, they always have the test less than two weeks before

a shooting. That's the standard, you know, we always give the opportunity to use condoms if they want to. We talk about, you know, all these small details, all the things that what do you like? What do you want? And then when we are shooting, how is that what shooting is acting? What do you do? You have to go through all of this that day again to make sure that everybody is on the same page that we are okay that when we have you know the setup done for for you know the location where where we are actually gonna shoot it we go through it with the director of photography talking about why we have the good light where we have the bad light where are the good spots to be in kind of.

And then with the performers, we talk it through. So we have some kind of choreography, almost you know, a little made up, but with space for improvisation, of course. Yeah, like do improv like different, like so how does that work even because I don't know this with certain positions and things that will look better on because a lot of stuff we're doing in real life, like, might not look so you're like cheating towards the camera but yeah what happens a lot what for especially when I work with performers who have worked lots in the mainstream porn industry they tell me that it's very kind of mechanic the way they are shooting sex that they normally ask them to be very separated for example if you're gonna shoot the penetration,

they want to see the whole penetration. So sometimes the penetration can't be very deep. For example, and that might not be so nice and then they ask them to fake like the niceness. Yeah, like that's a good idea. And you feel that it's fake. So I'm trying to work around that. I ask my performers to have sex as they have sex in their real life in their own bedrooms

kind of to, you know, to get into it together, to be close to each other. And then I work with, you know, in my camera operator around that to try to find the angles, where we can see a little end. But, you know, for me, it's not like, I don't, I'm not looking for those kind of genicological shots. Right. Right. You're not thinking of, I'm not, you know, I'm not making a difference. Like, leg up on the stirrups, right? Exactly.

So I'm, I'm trying to, to, to get a mix of explicit shots with other shots that talks to you about the passion and about the intimacy. So there is passion intimacy with them always. They get to all real. Like you feel that. And that's why I was just telling people, like when you're watching other mainstream porn, it is not real. They're not really orgasming maybe, but probably not.

I mean orgasms, you know, sometimes they happen, sometimes they don't happen. It's not like an obligatory thing that you need to do with that. We will stay shoot these for hours and hours. But you don't do that. You don't force it. No, I don't force it. And I think the way that we are doing it is get so natural. So it comes anyways.

You know, right? Because they're like, oh, wow, I can really relax into it. And I heard that. I mean, this last shoot we did now in Barcelona, just a month ago, for example, they were telling me, oh my god, I have a good, this is so great. I get to come here and I get to have real sex on set, you know, and I get to really, you know, experience this and to get it with my best friend. Exactly.

Exactly. It's like a huge, I mean, it's like, it's just a really, really, I mean, that's because you're just not, I did, it was an important set once when I first started this show. It's like 15 years ago in San Francisco. And I just remember, I think it was, I can't remember who it was now.

But anyway, it was the first scene, some famous guy had done, but it was like, the point is it was like so, after a while, I was like, oh, this will be really cool to be at a porn set. And then it was like hours of just like pounding. And it wasn't real. I'm like, oh, this will be really cool to be at a porn set. And then it was like hours of just like pounding and it wasn't real. I'm like, there's nothing sexy about it. And I could just see, you see it in your films and it's real.

And it's beauty and it's, you could learn a lot from it. You're in sparrant. No, I'm not going home for too long because then people just get bored. You know, so I'm trying to do it. And you know, at least like half an hour or 40 minutes and then we're done with our part. I love the pregnancy film because first of all, you get pregnant and there's no manual, people don't know how to make it sexy

or they don't want tev sex anymore. Or they think it's gonna hurt or they don't have positions. That's something it's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt wrong and something is gonna happen. Exactly. There's so, I met so many women who actually think that they could be dangerous to have sex

when you're pregnant. Exactly. And obviously it's not that's not. It's not. No, and I love that you show different ways to have sex. It doesn't have to just be your normal penetration and the position. But not only that, if you think about it, if people are having great sex during pregnancy, because I think this could be a great learning tool for people.

So if you're pregnant, you have to check out this film. We're going to get pregnant or have a friend. sex during pregnancy. Cause I think this could be a great learning tool for people. So if you're pregnant, you have to check out this film. We're gonna get pregnant or have a friend. But also after, after you've kids, sometimes then you're not having sex for all. So that's where I think a lot of marriages have problems because you have the kid and then you've already had nine months of not great sex.

So I think it's a really important film. You see, I can tell you, I mean, I have two kids. I have the motor of two daughters. Now there are eight and 11, so that was a wide goal one day break, but of course it's difficult because your whole your whole body your whole being of who you have been changed, you know, suddenly everything changes. Suddenly you are a mother and and your partner is you know it's not only your lover any longer you are in this new family installation and everybody needs their time to kind of try to find their new roles, I think. And I think,

as a woman, it's also difficult to reconnect with your erotic being. Like, who am I? Who was I? Who am I gonna be now? And I felt in the beginning that for us, it was really, really great when we could get outside our home when we could kind of meet up at a hotel sometimes and just being individuals for an hour or two or three or four, you know, but just being asked, I think it's really, really important to keep on dating, to keep on doing things together as a couple and not losing that part of yourself. Right. That's so important. So you guys, when you were pregnant, you and your

husband, when you said you just go get an hotel room or leave that. No, when you were pregnant, you and your husband, when you said you just go get a hotel room or leave that. Or just a gym, when we were pregnant. That was our game. Right. Because I was just pregnant. I can still be at home. But then when you have, when you have the kid, then the kid takes a lot of your space and your time and your energy.

And at home, sometimes you have that feeling that as soon as you step inside your home, you are the mother. And sometimes I have that feeling that as soon as you step inside your home, you are the mother. And sometimes I have this feeling that I really needed to step out of just being the mother and just being Erica, the person. Exactly. So I, you know, tell me, we did that sometimes.

That's great. I tell people all the time in your own city. You don't have to travel to another city. You don't have to travel to another city. You don't have to go to Paris. Go down the block. You can. And it's not staring at your same ceiling and the same thing. And it's getting out of the house and getting a baby.

Everyone can do this. Prioritizing your relationship. Because we forget when you have kids, it's all about the kids. And then that's not sexy either. But in the pregnancy, I think you made a documentary instead of a film. It was more, it's like instructional and sexy. And I love that. I mean, it's a combination of all of it. I, I, I want to, yeah, I want to show, I

wanted to show a couple. So this, they are actually together, Tiffany and Bruno are their names, you know, and, and they got pregnant. And then she wrote to me and she said she's an adult performer. I worked with her before, you know, and she said I would really like to make this film together with you, Erica, because I think it's so important to show that a woman when she's pregnant can still be a sexual being because people tend to start treating her as this delicate little flower that you can't touch and that you can't really, you know, give pleasure to. And she wanted to show that even if she was pregnant, she's this strong sexual being. And I think that that comes through very nicely in the film.

And then kind of the connection between them and how they talk to each other, how to listen to each other. It's really inspirational. I think I really did want to send it to everyone. And people can find that that's on X Confessions as well, right? X Confessions. Yes.

It's kind of part of these, with X Confessions, the cool thing is that I have this great opportunity to make so many different kind of films. So some of them are more, you know, some are more comedies, some are more dramas, some are more like artis, some are more dance films, some are more sex documentaries. And that's something that I've been, you know, lately working quite the sex star. I love the sex star. I think it's a lot of art. Yeah. Because I feel that we need it because people, so many people, they actually turn to porn

because they want to learn about sex because they have all these questions and all these doubts and they want to know more and they want to see how other people are doing it. So for me, it's a very important kind of category of films that I'm doing. You know, we talked a little about this one with female masturbation before this pregnancy doc. I also made a wonderful film with a senior. Yes, let's talk about that. That was a beautiful film. They are 72 and 74. It's called so sex with John and Annie. I love this town. Yeah, and beautiful. They are also they are just amazing and this is not a great example of a couple that actually they contacted me they had seen my films and they say hi we feel that it would be

important to show people you know of it and not a kind of age having sex because most of people that we see online, they are just very young people, right? And I think this is also such a beautiful film because you can really see how they connect, actually, how they communicate. Again, it's like, it's so intimate when you get to watch a couple. know real couple like they were casted They're exactly they are not just kind of actors doing this characters actors can be great I'm not saying that they are not but but when you get into that Closed, you know room of people and they are really showing you their way of having sex together. For me it's just, it's magic, you know.

And in this film how they, they have this kind of, I wouldn't call it a prayer, but a prayer year, how do you say it? Prayer, like a ritual? Yeah, but they have this kind of ritual, they are actually talking to each other the way they start the sexual experience Right, and they are giving you know, they are thanks to each other and telling what they want and what they are expecting And I think it's it's a magical really it's a magical moment Exactly like I think to spend what you think about you know having sex at any age

I think that all your films have this teachable moment because we're also we going to get our inspiration. Like if we are with someone, or we often have sex the same way that we learned the first time we learned, the second thing we had at the first time, it often won't change. So that's the other thing about your films. I think that are so important is that it's inspirational, they're learning tools and they're hot.

Like in each one, there's kind of something for, I think whatever you're looking for, for anyone. But I like the documentary style, because I've been in this like, how are we gonna change sex education? What can we replace what the kids are learning with right now, whatever ones are anyway? How do we replace it?

So to have a documentary, the way you shot it, it's still, but it's still porn and documentary style and you're learning about the relationship. But it all depends on the definitions you have there. I mean, this thing with porn people, you know, so when you say the word porn people go like, oh, porn, what is that? That is an nasty stuff, you know,

nasty explicit stuff. Oh, porn, but I mean porn, porn can be horrible, of course, but porn can be beautiful. You can be fantastic. It's just, it's what you are putting into that. It's like any chef in the kitchen, you know, with the same kind of ingredients you can do. So many different things.

Yes, but it's right. Exactly. I just think that where have you gotten good feedback about that one, the film, the SoulSax? Yeah, yeah. People have really, really liked it. And I think that so many people told me that they kind of expected most senior people not to have a sexual life.

And when they see this film, that changes that they're starting to think about the people they have in their own families in their own life. They're not dead. They're happy. Maybe they are actually alive. Maybe they actually have this, you know, erotic life going on in their close best home. Right, imagine that.

I think it also could be, because people really do think, well, there's this thing in America. I don't think that we totally do this, right? We talked about this last time a little bit, but like we are all like, oh, I don't want to picture mom and dad having sex or neighbors next door like it's so taboo. Or my parents only had sex twice for me and my brother. And it's just so, the way we talk about it to kids is so unrealistic.

So I think, I had that conversation with my daughter. Tell me, I was just gonna ask you that next. Yeah, yeah, I had because at one point that it's a few years ago, but they asked me and then said, so then what you and that you had sex twice and I went like yeah and then many more times and they were laughing and they looked at me like what and I'm like yeah because sex is not for reproduction that's not the only thing with sex sex is for pleasure so we do have sex regularly and then

then they started you know to ask more questions like so we wear a holiday when that happened for some day like so did you have did you have sex here? and then I'm like so where's the boundary now we're gonna have to try to find the side where to? well what do you do it's hard with mean, what do you like? Well, I don't want to lie yet. Well, this morning, remember when you were watching TV, we had to do a front of the video that I found. Exactly. No, but you have to.

You have to try to give them some realism, but at the same time, of course, I mean, they are your kids, so you can't go completely not see their. It's a balance that you need to find. But I think that for me, it's been very important with my daughters always to be very open to have them knowing that they can ask any question that that's totally okay, that I will never laugh, that I will never treat them like, you know, oh no, that's a can't answer that. If I don't know how to answer, then I would say, you know, sorry, I don't have time at this moment, but I will get back to you with this and I would do that, you know, but I think that's a good answer if you don't

feel prepared for the situation. But as a parent, you know, you should be able to talk about sex. And I mean, when my daughter, when they have pajama parties at home, for example, sometimes, you know, they call me into the room and they say, Hey, mom, this is my friends. Have a few questions because they're parents. They're never asked the question. So your daughter's 11, right? Or eight? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The question. What are the question? Your daughter's 11, right? Or 8? Is it 8 or 11? No, no, no, no, no. What are the questions? What are the questions? Many, many questions are actually about, you know, the period and stuff like this.

Yes. Because they haven't even talked that much about that. This is what I get asked by friends kids comedy the FaceTime. Yeah. We talk to Emily and they ask me about periods about that age. They have lots of questions about that. Well, like, what is it? When does it come?

What does it hurt? You know, how does it work? Do I need to have something in my bag in case it happens? Who could I talk to? You know, all these kind of questions, there's lots of them. And I mean, the questions are so wide, they're, you know, from how, how do gay men have sex? How do you feel weird answering someone's eyes? Kids and they're going to be like, are all penises weird answering? How many times kids and they're gonna be? Or all penises the same. Yeah. My little one, we were talking about that, that all penises are different from Cypher, and then one, one times she said to me, but what about twins mom? Do they have the same or are they different? And I, I was like, I don't know.

You are so clever girl. That's a good idea. Do you think about it? I don't know that. I'm assuming, but how would we know? Are they identical for turtle? What does it mean? That's really clever. But when you open up and you start having this conversation with the kids, you realize that, I mean, the questions are, they are funny sometimes, but they are very innocent.

You know, they are just pure wandering. Right. And why should we not be doing that? we have to be doing it all the time I think we are the sexual human beings. I'm here because two people had exactly But yet we tell kids we don't tell them anything we don't tell other periods And then we're like everything else we're so careful about like teaching them how to drive or how to study and how to travel Or do anything cook but then sex were like you're off on your own, go figure it out. And it's like, no, we are here because of sex.

This is why it happened. But I think because, and hopefully this is changing, but because our parents didn't talk to us, and they don't know how to teach it, and they probably still don't know themselves. They're not having great sex, maybe. They're not figuring it out. Thank you, Morgan.

They are having great sex, but they are very shame about it, and they don't dare to talk to anyone else about what is happening. But that's the shame. Yeah, the shame is huge. You said it's very sad, and I think the only way of actually getting there is through sex education. And that's why I think it's so crucial to have great sex education in schools, because we can't trust that all parents are gonna do it.

Of course, many parents wants to do it and wants to help and are gonna do it, but there will always be parents who are not gonna do it. So how can we get sex education to the kids through our school system? It's very, I don't know how it is in Barcelona. Well, in Barcelona. In Barcelona.

In Barcelona, and then remember, I'm Swedish, actually. So I grow up in Sweden. And if I have to say that it was kind of great, you know, I had great sex education. I had the possibility in my school to talk about emotions and feelings and not only like the reproductive. What a really, what age. I think I want to go to your school.

Well, that was early. I mean, are we always talked about it? It's not something that was only one class, one year. That was ongoing education since I started from I was seven till I graduated when I was 18. We had the conversation teachers. In class with some teachers, but also with sexologists that were coming into our classrooms and that put us down in small groups to talk

about it. Like boys and girls separated? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I think at some age, you had some very good way because there's all these tensions going on. So I think it's it's really really great that you can you know just sit down with other girls in your class and you can talk about what you are worried about and what is you know we talked a lot about what was expected by us and you know how how also kind of strategies. So if you don't want to have penetrative sex, what else can you do?

Which I think is a great thing to talk about because people get so stuck with the idea that sex means penetration. Right, exactly. And that that's what it is. And it's not, come on people out there. You know it's not right. Sex is so many different things. And I mean, you can touch and you can, you know, you can't my penis stay hard enough? I come too fast, I don't come enough too quickly. I come too quickly, or I can't come, and then for women they can't have orgasm. But okay, I answer that a lot. I'm like, but, and there's also other things to think about.

So, I think we're both kind to do the same kind of thing, but I think we, I don't know, I'm just feeling this urgency lately, because if there there's with porn being so available and that's all people are saying now, now we've generations who have really were saying in the last 12 years, right? They've even grown up on it. Yeah. So it's and they and they start to expect what they have seen online, you know, that's that's kind of how the brain works. It's like if you have seen lots of hours of porn before you even start having sex, then of course you think that that is the way you should have

sex. That's where it's so important for adult people to talk to younger generations, to really talk to them, but not to scare them off, not just to ban everything that has to do with porn, you know, because of course they are curious, let them be curious, but you know, dare to have the conversation and tell them why you don't like it, if you don't like it, tell them why, you know, it's don't tell them you cannot watch it, tell them, you know, when you watch it, you should be aware that in these images, that it's, first of all, it's very exaggerated fiction. It's not the same as sex, you know, this is somehow like when you watch a movie and you see Superman and he is flying, you know, that happens in the movies. In real life, there's no human being until today who knows how to fly.

You're right. It's not it's not happening. Okay, so first of all, it's fiction, fiction, fiction, fiction, remember that. And then you have to think about how it's made and who's making it. And with what values they are making it. So most of the porn you will see out there will be made by, you know, this kind of group of men that has an idea of a very standard sexuality. They are into, you know, boobs and ass and it's the cars and the drinks and they want to shine up. Right? That's exactly what they are doing. That's it. And it's their vision of sexuality that we mostly see through porn.

Mostly. I would do the majority. Yeah. What I want to do here is that I want to change that. I want more people from different backgrounds to get into porn, you know, to start making adult films. Yeah. With other perspectives, with other ideas, with other values, and to try to show and to start

showing that sex can be so many different things. Like what's on the menu right? And I think that it's not only that straight white heterosexual man's fantasy. So exactly it was so frustrating because even if people and the thing that makes the bum's me out is that some people don't even have a choice. Like that's all that was there when I went to go look for it. It's like people don't know about healthier foods. If you only live in a town with them McDonald's, that's all that you know, that's all that you eat, that's where all your real thing got foods are fast food.

It's the same thing that's all they saw. What can people do right now to get involved with you? To participate. Well, it depends what ideas they have. They can write their ideas. For example, and we can make films out of them That's one of them when we are participating in the next confessions, you know, you go online You write your sex story or your fantasy or your idea or something and maybe we'll make a film out of it

If you are a film director. Yeah, you can apply for something called our open call It's ongoing. We have you know people applying all the time and we are shooting through, you know, the whole year in the whole world, actually, you know, we shot in Australia, we shot in Finland, we shot in London, we shot in New York, we have shot in Brazil. I'm trying to get a female director in Japan on board, but it's very difficult because it's not allowed to show. It's not allowed to show. Wow, we're not in China. Yeah, we're trying. There are a lot of people. It's difficult to reach certain and high. It is, but you will. If anyone does you will. If anyone does you will. I will. And then I would say that if you're Chinese and you live here, for example, maybe that's the way of showing your perspective, right?

So they could go to aircolost.com, right? Aircolost.com slash open call and then you can apply and we have, we have, we have a kind of a great budget to shoot this kind of films out there. Great. And you know, you would have to apply tell us who you are, show us your show reel because we are looking here for people who have some kind of experience with filmmaking, of course. But the idea of the whole project is diversity. So, you know, please, we want to see it. We want to see how you're having sex and what you're into different parts of the world, different ages, different ethnicities, your first VR porn that you're releasing.

I've done so much this year. I know, this is telling you. I'm looking at the time, but I'm like, oh wait, can you talk about your app? That VR porn. Tell me, I'm dying. It's a very different experience for me as a filmmaker. It was strange because when you do something with VR,

you can't work with the same tools as you normally do in filmmaking. We work with framing and we work with lighting. And we kind of compose the images that we want to show. When you work in virtual reality and in this film particularly, I made a 360 degrees. So you can see everything around. So the experience is actually kind of you put on a headset, you know, these had this. Have you, have you, have you used it once?

Yeah. I used it once and I'm Amsterdam a few years ago. I saw it. So I, that yours, but I, I think most people have not. Yeah, it's a very amazing, crazy experience. So you put on a whole headset and then you have this kind of glasses in front of your eyes, you know. So you can't see the real world. You're only inside this virtual reality world. And in my film, for example, if you sit on a chair that can spin around and you start spinning, then you will have different sexual experiences all around the 360 degrees.

Things will happen. That's what I can tell you. Exactly. Like, oh, there's something happening over here. Wait, there's another guy over here. Yeah, it's all... And you get guided by sound, so you hear things, and then you want to turn around your head, you know, and then you turn and then you see something different. So it's the experience and it's something. Did you enjoy working? That's a whole different thing. Yeah, it was technically. It was a

struggle and it was very difficult for me to get into understanding how it actually worked, but I had support of course, of all kind of technical team. Many men of course because I try to find women but you know how this is yeah This is still a very masculine World when we get into kind of advanced technology. Yeah, I would totally tell women get into it Because I think that we need women to you know start thinking how would we experience this different right? Absolutely, so what do you think are the benefits VR porn versus VR porn? How does it do? What experience? I mean the experience, it's very alive.

I mean, when you actually see this people, they are there. They are. You are there. This is actually happening. So it's totally different from watching a movie, a regular movie, you know. I think I was watching together too if they both have the headsets or is it more of a prank? Yeah, actually we did the other day because we had an inventory in Los Angeles in West Hollywood in the Seoul also. Yeah. And we had the five different headsets with us and people in a room were putting those on and they were you know walking around to get the full experience and someone came up to me and he said,

oh my god, it's so amazing because at the same time as I was inside my story, I could feel the touch from other people moving around. So I got kind of you know surprised by what was amazing. I want to come to your next, so if you're doing that, surprise by what is amazing. I want to come to your next if you're doing that We are that is unbelievable. I think we're gonna repeat it because it was it was a great. Oh my god That is I want to do it here. Oh god. That's a really exciting. I mean all the things you got the apps You got the app VR porn air call us Everything as confession still goes on. I'm going to somehow collab with you. We're going to have lunch and discuss it.

But congratulations on all your great stuff you've been doing. And we are huge fans here at Texas Emily. I think everyone you guys seriously go to our website, get a subscription. Is there anything else they need to know? Like it's a monthly, they figure it out. It's a hard work. It's worth it. It's a snap.

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and what they like. And it depends if you want to watch something more documentary style or something more kind of narrative or more artful. I mean, there's, there's, I, I think we have over 150 short films at this, at this point. And there's a new short film coming up every two weeks on X-Confession. So it's, you know, it's really ongoing, but I think lots, lots of, of, of, especially the reactions I had from women lately with the female pleasure circle have been, you know, wonderful reactions. Just seeing this documentary, I talked about with six women, you know,

talking about their self-loving. I think it's a very powerful film. So that one I would totally recommend. Okay, great. In the month of May, that was masturbation month. We had it open for free for everyone. I don't know now if it's still available. Okay.

If it's not right to me and maybe I can get a lift. Right to air a lift. And tell her, yeah, exactly. Tell her that you heard from me and you want to watch a film for her. Yeah. Because I think we're going to send a lot of people your way. Yeah, so it's a new link, you know? I was a little scared.

I know my link expired. but we'll get a link and it's aircolas.com, e-r-i-k-a-l-u-s-t.com. L-s-n-a-mo.com will have all the show notes as well. Aircolas everywhere, Instagram. All of it at pettis, all of it at pettis. All of it at pettis. I mean, congratulations. I can't wait for the app.

The app is so smart in all your movies. I think it's really gonna help people and thank you so much for being here Thank you so much for inviting me again and giving me the opportunity to you know to talk to your audience and And to talk about porn It's so important you guys. I'm not bashing porn. Just want you guys to watch the right kind of porn I actually have five quicky questions for you. I'm asked you a quick. Okay, ready? What's your biggest turn on? Biggest turn on. Err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, err, er tip, massage? Yes. Yeah, massage.

Start with massage. Everything happens where you start with a massage. It's like, if you're not in the mood, you get into the mood. No one's gonna be like, oh, maybe at first, I don't want one, but then you touch them though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Touch this, I think.

It's everything, everything. Is there anything random? What's something random that turns you on? Something random that turns me on? I Must be so many things Yeah, how would you describe your your sex life in three words my sex life in three words? inspiring sex life in three words, inspiring, I'm bad with words today. What should I say? How about your

relationship or your sex life in three words? Lots of love, really. Actually, we are celebrating just the other day, 19 years together. I'm in like a long, long relationship. It's amazing to me. And I'm actually really, really happy. I think that I met someone that, you know, we really connected and we are, you know, we are still lovers after all these years, which is I think very important. Not without the struggle, of course. That's not the struggle. Yeah, always a struggle, but you're still to prioritize.

Yeah, but I think it has a lot to do with the way that we actually decided to keep being a couple when we had our daughters. Because I think that, you know, that was such a key point. It's a moment. Was there something to happen where you felt like you weren't prioritizing it and then you said, listen, let's for me it kind of happened. I mean, I've been, I still remember the first night when we left our daughter.

She was only five months, the first night she stayed at my husband's sister's place that night, you know, and I've remembered at first I felt sad and it was kind of, you know, I felt, oh my god, I can't leave her. But then I did and we went out and we, you know, had a glass of wine and we started to, you know, reconnect again. And I'm like, this is good. Right. And I think that sometimes you have to be aware of what you want and that many, many times things that you want to go against each other, you know, that, that, that, you're like, I want to be a great mom and be there. I don't want to leave the kid, but I want to be connected to my husband. But you need, you need to take time and then

someone said something to me that I felt was quite smart. And it was, you need to take that time and you should take, you know, at least a one day a week, one week in the month and one week a year. And if you take that time together and you do something just you, you keep being a couple, go out, eat, dance, go to the cinema, travel, I love it. Keep doing those things because otherwise you will lose it. You will. Little by little. You will lose it. You will. Little by little, you know.

It's true. You don't even see it happening. So let me just repeat this again. So you do one weekend a month, it's two of you. Here we try. We try. I got it. Because if you have that as a goal, then maybe you do every two.

Oh, how great. Exactly. Well, let me tell you something, Eric, and I don't know if this is more European, but I'm telling you here, I have to beg couples to be like, please do a date night once a week. And they're like, or go out of town. There's couples that have kids who are 10 years old and they've never, the two of them. Five years old, six years old, all the time.

And it's like, you have, how then of course you're struggling. Like you need to prioritize your love. Talk me, talk me. And the two of you, and you'll be better parents, better everything. Even if it goes against what you feel, you need to do it anyway. And when you do it and you'll be better parents better everything so even if it goes against what you feel you need to do with anyway And when you do it you got to like it. You're gonna like it. You're not gonna have bad time. No, no, no I don't want to lose each other. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, you will lose each other. That's beautiful. Thank you so much Eric over here

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