Sex With Emily - Sex With Loveline Hosts: Drew and Mike

Episode Date: December 20, 2014

Tonight’s show marks a couple of very important firsts: It is Emily’s first time in a Santa Hat (gasp) and it is the first official Loveline/Sex With Emily crossover podcast. Can you handle it?Emily is joined by Dr. Drew Pinsky and Mike Catherwood, the dynamic hosts from the popular syndicated radio show Loveline, to talk sex, relationships and Loveline over the years! Together they address a variety of topics, including marriage, pornography and the impact Tinder is having on our sex lives. They also give advice to a listener suffering from a shattered self-confidence, and share some personal secrets for a lasting relationship. All this and more in the latest Sex With Emily podcast!Don't forget: If you missed the Live Stream, you can always catch the full video at SexWithEmily.com!  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Everyone, thanks for listening to Tonight's Show. My guests are Dr. Drew Pinsky and Michael Catharwood, the host of the nationally syndicated show Love Line. They do a lot of advice five nights a week about dating, sex, and relationships. So tonight, we're going to hear their best tips and how they practice them in their personal lives. Like, how to keep sex alive in a long-term relationship

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They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex Eyes that mark our secret institutions Betrubized they call them in a bygone Hey, Evelyn you got a boyfriend cuz my man E here. He just got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute The girls got a her standards oh. The women know about shrinkage. Isn't it common, Lolly? What do you mean, like laundry? It's shrink? Can we not talk about sex so much?

Are you kidding me? Oh my god. I'm so, so, so, so. Being bad feels pretty good. You know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with. You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex relationships and everything in between. For more information, go to sexwithm. We're talking about sex relationships and everything in between for more information go to sexwithmme.com where you can check out all of our

blogs, all of our podcasts. You know the easy thing to do is just to subscribe and iTunes. We do two shows a week. You will never miss a sex with Emily show again because why would you want to do that? And sign up for more mailing list because I give really good emails. I have to say I'm not making it out. People tell me so it's, it must be true, right? And that's what you should do. And I'm here with Anderson. What? I'm just gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show.

I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show.

I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show cathartic right here. He's one of our guests tonight. Would you like to comment on that? Did you did you see me giving blowjob the camera? I did not. I saw you looking beautiful and having a great time. Thank you. I was a great time. I did actually. She Emily looked great. Thank you. It was a really good time. Yeah, it was fun. You got to meet my wife, which I know I love it because I only met your wife when she was like nine months pregnant

for like two seconds in the love line studio. That's right. And she's awesome. She's funny. Yeah, she's pretty solid. She puts up with you and you guys are good. We're going to talk about that tonight. OK. A little bit of that, your relationship and all that. OK, so this has been a crazy week. Had so many Halle parties and work, my head spinning. Seriously, what?

Anderson, you look shocked. I'm never shocked with the IQ party and then going out. Everyone thinks I do, but I don't all the time. Well, no, you actually, I tell people that you don't have much of a social life. You need more because actually people are always asking very often people are asking me if you're available. Oh, you're interested. I'm ready. And I say I'm not her pet.

I say go talk to her yourself. Dude, there's some numbers if they're cute. For those of you who can't see the U stream, Emily looks very cute right now. I'm a Santa hat. It's our Christmas show and I'm Jewish but I've never wanted Santa hat and I'm so excited. It's becoming. You should move to a place where that's just like the style. It looks good on you. Like in our hole or something. Is that where it's a style? Emily's wearing a Santa hat and eating pork.

So she could break away from her. Exactly. But I'm also holding sex toys so I could be struck down you know what I'm saying. Um, so, okay, this is my cathart would. He's here. Mike is the co-host of Love Line. Uh-huh. And I talked about you a little earlier at the beginning, but Mike, I've been on it working with you. I'm Love Line. It's been on the air for 30 years. 34, I believe. 34? Really? Yeah. Okay. And you and Mike, I've got a little like bio here for you which bios are so lame because you could say it's so much better But sometimes everything sometimes it's crazy sometimes is crazy and how How in different people are to creating bios because they're just not nonsense and other times I'm like shock

I'm like wow, that's pretty accurate. I can't believe I don't for instance my Wikipedia I I had never seen it until I didn't know there was one until like about a year ago, and I read it. I was like, this is spot on and like stuff like my mom's background, my dad's background, like where they're from and how they like their parents and. And it was all true. Everything in there was like totally spot on. Oh, that's good. Because some people go in and go crazy. They're like, that's not true. Yeah, yeah, it was a little bit nuts, but also at the same time, I started to think, well, who wrote that?

Like, who in my life, you're crazy fans, because you've been, you know, but my friends, like, people who would know that, I know, but my friends, like close friends of me that would know certain little details that are in there, would not write that

because if they did, it would be all like Mike has a small dick and Mike is, uh, as it would Oh, you would write you a small dick. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying I know my friends that are close enough to me to know that kind of stuff, but they would never have they don't have to use Wikipedia because Wikipedia, you have to be like Wikipedia certified. I think to use Wikipedia, not anyone, everyone go in and edit their stuff. But I guess so there is must be some really passionate Mike Catherine would fan who knows

a lot of stuff because like I said, there's like family stuff in there that I was like, it was totally accurate. I was like, you Google it, I figured it out, but you know, you've been on the air, what, okay, so radio, television personality, well-known masturbation advocate. That's true. I added that part.

I really am though. I know, you're really, you're really, and you're really articulate about it and you share when you masturbate. Well, I just think a lot of times, even non-sexual stuff, young men especially are, they're so driven by their pent-up kind of sexual frustrations that I think that like masturbating frequently, not too frequently, obviously, understanding moderation, but masturbating, at least daily, really kind of regulates some of those weird decisions that men make for the sake of having sex or

getting sexual lax and I was like, it's kind of like how women are like go shopping on Zappos or something at night. Right. No, but guys are just as guilty. I mean, if I say, well, if you have $30,000 in the bank and you're like, I'm going to go buy a $60,000 car and figure out how to, how to lease it and leverage myself to it. I go beat off first and like, free think that. Like, think it's, like, you may be fueled by the desire to get laid or

that is it. And I'm like, just don't. If you're sexting with a girl and you, and you have a girlfriend that's, you know, asleep in the other room, like, go beat off and then think about sexting and like, so you use it as like a decision making tool. Well, yeah, I think I think it kind of regulates a lot of your impulses. No, I think it's true. I think it's totally natural.

We talk about this in the show a lot that people just don't a lot of women. And I was like that. I didn't understand why my boyfriend and I was like 24. I'm like, we're having amazing. You know, you then you think, it's a bust sex in my life. Like, why is he always watching porn? Why is it? I thought that I wasn't fulfilling him,

which is a lot of women believe that. But okay, there's a few things I have to say first. Before we, before we chat. And the most important thing is that you have to follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram this coming week because starting today, December 18th, so it's all sex with Emily across the board and you should totally be following me because

It's fun my post on God. They're good. I'm I get your newsletter. I follow you on Twitter and Thank you Mike. I appreciate I'm pretty sure we're friends on Facebook. I'm pretty sure yeah, I don't know I don't really apply like I know that you don't usually like you probably like you know not friends with everybody But I just don't know I don't do put any effort into my Facebook. I have no idea who my friends are. I have no idea what's on there. I've got a page though. I've got like a Facebook page. That's actually okay. So anyway, there's a thing. I'm bringing you seven days of how the pleasure meaning seven days to win some very sexy prizes. All sex family were giving way all good stuff. So check my social media every day for the next seven days and it's hashtag seven days of what is it? Seven days of pleasure. Hashtag seven days of pleasure. We are giving way some of the most killer toys products, whatever. So check that out. And that's like the most important thing I have to say. And here's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is here. Hi Dr. Drew. Hey Emily. Looking good. He's burgundy shirt. More of that. low You guys are awesome test test. Here we go. Hello

Christmas. Oh, thank you. Show up right now. If you want Susan duck duck and you're I know you're part of the tribe to yes, I don't I don't dress like Santa Haga story this is my first time ever wearing a hot Sure it is naturally Well Emily actually like when sometimes in certain outfits. You're very Julie, but then other times I look at you and you're very good. This is very good. Wait a minute. What? Yeah, well, Christmas happened. When am I Julie? I were all black. No, no, I know, but that is very uptown New York, like

Jewish chick. Kind of you have that sexy Jewish professional chick. Look a lot. But then other times I look at you, I'm like, she could be a fucking Ruka from like East LA. When is that? It's true. It's a while. Every once in a while, yeah. Do you agree? You've seen her drew in her camel toe cheetah pants and stuff.

I've cameled, I do not own camel toe cheetah pants. They're leggings and I never wear them in one house. I do have cheetah leggings. I've never left my house in one house. Since then, I've been just about. How'd you know? I know, I'm not letting you. Hey, I've got my house. Since April to 12. How'd you know? I know. I'm not letting you have it.

I've got the bell. You let us into your territory for once. I'm opening this now really. Oh, still. I love still makeup. This is awesome. Thank you Drew. Thank you, Susan.

Your lovely wife. Are you into, like, my favorite brand? And this is good. That's good stuff. I know it's exciting. She knows what she's doing. Are you real into like makeup, not makeups, but like face creams and that type of thing?

You know, yeah. I mean, I like it. Because you look very young. Oh, thank you. You visit my wife's bathroom. There's a full, not only a store, but a museum dedicated to creams and makeup and bikinis. That's the other thing.

There's a museum of bikinis. Oh, your wife. So we were on the Goon Beach. And she's amazing. Oh, yeah. I remember you guys swing her party I don't think that Drew would get along with one is well I know for a fact that you don't engage in swing swing or party yeah, I remember you guys swing or party yeah, I know we are good. I was like really you went I'm like no we're all friends it's totally cool and chill like yeah sure it really keep party like like Drew really

I have a title mode. Sorry. I don't I don't think that Drew would I do never would it would get along. You're getting well I know for a fact that you don't engage that Drew would, I, I, I, Drew never would, it was sure we get along. Your goal is, well, I know, I know for a fact that you don't engage in swinging with Drew because you walk correctly. Oh, stop it. If you engage with sex with Drew, you'd be all bow-legged. I mean, you are just being zagged the same good. Oh, yeah. No, you'd actually, you're like to be closer together. You win, are you?

Yeah, actually, your legs closer somehow. My penis is so small. We're gonna get to that later. But, yeah, so your wife, among many things, very talented. She, um, host her podcast, calling out, she's in Pinsky, but she also happens to be a bikini expert because she worked at a bikini shop. It was her first matter. Yeah. That's right.

And so we went bikini shopping one day. It was like Memorial Day, Labor Day, whatever, Labor Day, was a Labor Day. Yeah. And everything's in sale. All right, Liguna Beach. And so we went into this bikini shop and I just, she just sat there I'm not sure if she was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby.

She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was a baby. She was don't. She knows she absolutely. No, take it off. No, like she was like the bikini.

And then she sounds like me. Sounds like me. Hot going to buy suits with my friends. I know. I always like those little pebbles are too big for you, dude. You're not tall enough. You need to need thin lapels. You got to match your tie to it.

My first look, thank you. No, everyone needs a friend like that. I don't have that in life. Susan, I should go shopping with her. OK, so well, you're both here now. So we'll just I'll do my little intro. If people don't, that in LA. Susan, I should go shopping with her. Okay, so you're both here now, so I'll do my little intro. If people don't, I'm assuming, unless people have been under a rock. They've heard of Loveline. It's been around for 30 years.

He said 34, Mike. 83. Okay. 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30. I really don't do math, actually. It makes me feel like I have it. It'll be 32, exactly. Like, January 3rd, right?

Isn't that when he started? I know, all I know is I remember New Year's Eve 1984. actually makes it. It'll be 32 exactly like January 3rd, right? Isn't that when he started? January. I, all I know is I remember New Year's Eve 1984 and it was a Sunday and it wasn't even New Year's Eve. It was actually New Year's Day because they'll never do the Rose Parade on a Sunday. Right. So New Year's Day was Sunday and the show was Sunday night and the second was the parade. Right.

And I remember having to get in through the parade track but into the K-Rock and Pasadena. And it was, and I'd been doing it a few months at that time. So I probably started the summer of 83. So yeah, don't start me around. Don't start me about New Year's Eve and the fucking Rose Parade. Yeah, yeah, bring up my, oh, I got a damn horrible memory.

I want to pass it as old. I'll be back. We'll be come visit. I know, because I'm going, now I'm going to Florida. My mom, my mom is not the Jewish guilt type at all. I wish someone's I think it would have been better. She had any. Do anything that showed that she means she cares, but she was like, whatever have fun, go to San Francisco.

If you don't like it, it'll come back. You can take some of my mom's. She's going to call me and say, you know, I got to choose you. I'm not getting any, you know, I'm not getting any young guys. She's in Florida. Not getting any young. I'm like, which is right here. I could die soon.

You guys would love my mom. She's like, you know, I'm not kidding about it. I'm not gonna be around forever. You should come to Florida. Yeah, she is. She looks amazing. She's 71 where I'll fuck. She is a place in Sarasota. Dude, you probably would. Who wouldn't you fuck if you weren't married? But even as even five minutes when you weren't married. Even as if you knew me when I was married. I definitely fuck you That would have made for good show come on talk about it. I'm listening. How do you know? I would fuck you? You would have really all that small penis Okay, Drew Drew from what you know of me as a man who knows me Very well on and off the air and especially knew me during the time of activity post first marriage. Yeah If Emily was like the like a part of love line the way she is now and during say like 2008

Honestly is a betting man. What would you say with the chances that I'd have sex with it would be? I'd more be wondered why it wouldn't Yeah, like it's a way of it. Yeah, like it's a little way of it. Yeah, it's and so although it appears we didn't I know this will minute. She's deeply turned off by the small penis. I'm kidding. It's a joke because that's actually something we're gonna she might get to the Morpheus. We're getting a body. The Morpheus. We know we're being a fat and might it ain't right. It anchors me to what his dick Morpheus. And then Mike always talks about having a small penis. penis and I don't really you want to show it? Yeah, people do not think about the fact that the male preoccupation with penis size penis shape penis whatever is a form of body dysmorphia very often right it's sort of two manifestations one is

When men have low self-esteem they have low self-esteem when they're just not feeling good about their place in the world You know young men particularly they have what who am I? What am I going to do? They start preoccupying about their penis size. It becomes sort of a some of the surrogate symbol for their bigness, their worth. That makes sense with me. Yeah. But as a syndrome, I'm just reading about it the other day,

and I realize I've seen this a number of times. These guys, in fact, we had a guest in here at the start of the Eric Andre, he had the same exact syndrome. They get like an irritant. First of all, they become a little bit. They're ocean. Which is under bullshit because he's a black guy. So I refused to hear that from a black guy.

He's a hard show. Yeah, but he, but he's Sammy David. He might have gotten his mom. He's black. He was. It wasn't going to turn with size. Here's what his thing was. And this is this is sort of that.

That's right. Yeah, that's right. Typically how it goes is they start worrying about STDs. They get a little irritation and go, oh, I've got one. I've got one. They see dermatologist, dermatologist, dermatologist, you're all just like four or five of them. And then they'll come to a generalist like me because they get sort of dismissed and blown off by all the specialists.

And they'll go, look, there's a shiny spot. There's a little spot. Do you see the irritation? It's driving me crazy. It's so awful. And you can't see a damn thing. There's nothing there. They've tried all kinds of steroid creams and everything doesn't help and you put them on an SSRI

Which by the way works for all body dysmorphias and and think goes way immediately goes away immediately You have to be occupied. I have that becomes their obsession but there's a lot of these as a rumination We talked about how drew I speaking of SSRI so I'm gonna go ahead and meet you. Okay that call tonight. No Well listen to this fuck this going on with this. I ordered see you can so I'm gonna go ahead and need you. That call tonight. No. Well listen to this. That's not the only number with this. I ordered. See you can see I made your last one refillable. I you see I made it as call. Okay. I made it. I made it. Did you want to call that? I made my prescription from Express scripture down. They sent me seven

fucking pills. Oh, what is it? That means they're not going to cover it. And fine. I've been all paid. But either way just send me my god. Yeah, you need it. What is it? That means they're not going to cover it. Oh, and fine, I've been all paid, but either way, just send me my God. Yeah, you need it. What is it? The rest is alright, both of them. Can we get them some? Do you get them? I've been getting them across the truth. It's a real doctor. He just calls in a prescription and so for me. And I go and I'll pay one on. But here's the thing with my body this more, if you know, which all kidding aside, goes much larger than

like the way I look at my penis. It was it. I mean, I really was, it was so crippling that in my first marriage in the early 2000s, I would shower with a shirt on. I take my shirt off when I got in the shower because I would possibly walk by a mirror. So I mean, I had a really bad body, it's Morphea. When did it start, what age? Junior high school, I was like, okay. That sounds about right now. Wow, and you never got naked in front of anyone. Oh, no

Not unless it was not unless first comedy even when you were like jacked up on steroids and stuff Yeah, even I was actually probably worse. What don't you always think I think I found like a little comfort zone like Like maybe like sophomore year in high school before like right before I Not only get out you would get out and pose down in a fucking yeah But I honestly did that like a snow suit if you're a bodybuilder I know, but I did that as a way to like common say one of my one of my therapists thought it would be like a good idea to like to like draw by fire like to take steroids and then go to competition. I don't think she was aware of

oh how ridiculous is that that she didn't know because I don't think most people drew like you have a such not only a working knowledge of like muscle building and like strength training because of your own personal like hobby. Well, not a year exercise, bulimia. Jack, that's just like very good and very shaped. Work a haul, like what else? We just call our issues out.

But not only that, you're a doctor. So I think that you, I mean, you understand that human beings don't grow 30 pounds of muscle in a year. It just doesn't happen, you know what I'm saying? But she, like, that human beings don't grow 30 pounds of muscle in a year. It just doesn't happen. You unless you, but she's like, that was a main issue for me when I was in my first marriage because a lot of other stuff got when my wife left me, my first wife left me, then I started focusing on other things. Like the body is more or less, you almost got better by virtue of not paying attention to

it. But during the time when we were married, that was my main focus when I was going to therapy was like trying to deal with me. And you hadn't focused on it before in therapy? No, no. Because it really, like, it was kind of something that you just were in your mind. Yeah, because, well, because I was,

I think it hit a, I think it hit an apex during my first marriage because my body is morphed, it became so much more clear because I was also sober. Right, you know, when I got married, when I got married to my first wife, I was three or four years sober. Okay. So by that time, got married, when I got married to my first wife, I was three or four years sober. Okay. So by that time, I started to kind of a lot of things in my life became more clear. Um, when I was 19 and had bad body dysmorphia, I just do coke and everything

went away. All the more. Yeah. I just numbed everything. So now you're dealing with that. But you feel like it's getting bad. You feel like you're making progress in it. And you make the jokes about the spa. Besides, but it's still crippling. It's still uncomfortable. I mean, I mean, you make the jokes about this ball piece. Besides. But is it still crippling? It's still uncomfortable. Like, I surf a lot. And when I take up my wetsuit, if it's hot enough to where I'm not swimming. You could be like, I'm in the pool.

Remember that side fold? It was a strength, anyway. What? Do you remember that? I was in the pool. I do want to hear a little joke about that. I think you say, though, you've just taken the wetsuit off in public for your penis. Oh, I see. OK, I was just saying, like little joke about that. I think you say And though you've just taken the the wetsuit off in public for your penis

Yeah, no, I'm just saying like just like seeing my physique is Like I I do a lot of photoshoots not a lot But I've done photoshoots in my life like when I was on day two with the stars or when I was when I was in certain magazines We're in it and they're like hey mr. Muscleman go ahead and take that shirt off so we can get that shot And I was like you got to be fucking kidding me right? I mean I'd be like to real photographers for like details I'm like okay What Bell okay, and I'd be like whoa? Whoa you've got to be kidding and they would have this conversation with me like it was a real

possibility that I would take my shirt off. Oh, we do where they got a meds and the meds took care of it So the meds so that was just, he was leading to the SSR. Right. Okay. So now you're on SSR eyes for depression and the body. And and and a late benefit. You better get him tonight for him. A latent benefit has been that I've, I've really found my stride. At least I'm a lot better than I've ever been before with the body is more of you. It really works very well. We're markedly well. Okay. So this is what I got to give my little like, I'm okay. I assume most people know who you guys are but just in case no most people don't know who I am most people probably know Drew yeah that's true okay but Dr. Dr. okay so love

lines been on for 30 some on years and there's been a few other hosts like Adam Corolla people I know of and now it's Mike Catharwood and you guys are awesome and it's been an honor and kind of a dream to be on the show with you guys once a week I guess guest co-hosts on Thursday and it's been an honor and kind of a dream to be on the show with you guys. It's a week, I guess, guest, co-hosts, and Thursday nights, it's fun and you're both here. We love having family there. Yes, we do, really. I'm glad, because I love being there.

Like, I really do. It's hard for me from a broadcasting standpoint, but on a personal and professional level, it's the best. Why? Because no one has worse Tourette's than Dr. Drew, except maybe Emily Morris. And I'll be like, here's the number to call in

to my call in radio show 1 800. But here comes the gift. Give me give me give me give me a drop. And then Drew jumps in and then like, wait, can I just wait? Give out the number. I look at his Instagram.

Now I know it's okay. I'm sorry, but yeah, I'll run out for something visual in the room. This should start talking about it. Emily, look, it's a picture of Elvis. You're like on Instagram

surfing the hot chicks. I got my fucking mouth shut. No, you do. OK, so listen, so you guys, and also you've both been married, happily 25 years, 23, and a whole. OK, triplets who are 21, 2-2, right, 22, great kids, and Mike, 2 years married. Just 2 years, last week.

I saw your picture on Instagram. It was the first one. And then he was the personal consultant to one of my sons. Yeah, that's right. Oh, he's like, you know, he's like, you're a mad genius. Like you're a magician. I was texting him just advice and college. I know which son it is.

And he said those words. He's awesome. Because he gives the other son what he said. He goes, you go, you go, thank you. No, he's awesome. I love, I love, well, I don't know how, I can't believe how much you've helped me. That's one awesome. I love I love I don't know why your kids, but I'm you're a mad genius. I can't believe how much you helped me That's one son. I know Who knows I'm right. I should say this. I can't begin to express my I won't say no

Don't say it for me, but I'm just saying like once I can't begin to Just like that. I'm grateful. I have for the close to deal that we're working on. Okay, they know I do with women No, I know you think he's, no. Please, speaking of anal, we're going to get into that, because, okay, so love lines and Alan. That's Emily's book.

He's speaking of anal. Speaking of anal. I mean, I was at a bad title. It's a good title. Okay, so love lines and amazing. You could listen to it five nights a week. You could download the podcast,

all that stuff. Okay, so, and then Drew, HLN, you're all over the place. Teen moms, somebody we have. They recognize you. Drew's really becoming one of the picture like like really one of the main faces of not only HLM but like the CNN company as a whole. Well, he should be so we're gonna be two thousand fifteen is gonna be important your for that show. Yeah, what's gonna get audience in there? It's gonna be

really cool. That is gonna be very close. Everyone should check that out. Starting to hire Latinos. Mike, if you don't know who Mike is, you're on there sometimes. He's gonna be out a lot. I want freaks out, right? Because Mike is not, like Mike is a good counter to you. He's not HLM material. No, but we've not seen him at all. He's HLM material in terms of where they want HLM to go. Right. So it's good. I'm not HLM material in that most of the people that get mad at me are fucking idiots. And it's a lot of times he'll bring panelists on that like a panda to fucking it is.

Doesn't agree with you as an idiot. No, no, not at all. But don't you do things that like free people out like in the middle of the show like Sam his co-host. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the big Mike has an obsession with big penises, pic photos that he sends around. I've actually moved beyond that.

It's more to Gabe, right Drew? That's my where's my phone? And didn't you like do something a video? Because because Susan Pinsky comes up to me, she was Michael has a video that he's showing tonight of his daughter saying anal gaping. I'm like, he's staring. Yeah.

She's only a few months old. She's probably not really saying it. It's not funny. Is that bad? Say that. Anyway, Susan told me it must be true. But Mike, OK, so 10 years you want Kevin and Bean, very popular LA morning show.

Yeah. Cycle Mike. Yeah. AKA. And then Love Line four years ago, and you were also but Mike, okay, so 10 years you won Kevin Bean, very popular LA Morning Show, cycle Mike, yeah, that was great. A. And then Love Line four years ago, and you were also in Dancing with the Stars. That'll be, it'll be five this March. Is that he's, oh really? Yeah, I can't believe it, I really has flown by.

And then my favorite part of Dancing with the Stars that you slept with everyone in the show. And I was, Google it, and you're doing it. In defense of the married women on the show, I didn't sleep with everyone. I slept with a considerable amount of girls. Yeah, so that was pretty awesome. And also if you want to find out Twitter,

an Instagram, your Instagram. What is the number? I've never asked you that. Dancers are a people total. Yeah, from the production. Six. Okay, that's how I was there. How long were you there?

I was not, I was voted for offer. I know you were all first, but you know, he was too busy boning to get over the dancing. Do you think that if you spent more time practicing the moves you might have run you should you might not do if you wanted to do. Do you think that

you would have maybe would have voted off second? Sex aside, I think if I would have like really applied myself more I could have done that. Because you weren't taking a seriously. I didn't take it seriously at all. In fact, I in fact, I went out of my way to not because I felt it's it seriously at all. In fact, I went out of my way to not,

because I felt, it's so sounds so crazy. Like, back then when I was young, but that was only like three, four years ago, but I just had a different view of it. I thought it wouldn't, it somehow wouldn't be cool. You like a self-hating dance in the separate. No, it's like, it wouldn't be cool if I tried hard. If I really learned the moves, that wouldn't be punk rock

and cool. So I just, like, I had this attitude where it's like, I knew I was the least popular guy. I had the least amount of fame. So that already was like really working against me. No, that's true. You could have like swept out of the dance floor and kicked ass just because you weren't well known. Even if even if I was the greatest dancer in the history of that show, I wouldn't have beat like the Christian. And then you banged and then you banged the her assistant was probably

like he's off and they like rigged it. Yeah. No, no girl. I made sure that the girls that I was lucky enough to make love to not powerful enough to kick me off the show. Okay, got it. Let's mark. Okay, so love line. How did you guys meet? Oh, we met you that years ago, right? You mean me because we both are from the Pasadena area and Drew was at the time like a huge fixture in the recovery community there because he was working in a he's working in the addiction medicine department of a Pasadena program. Yeah, it was Jeremy the program. And so that ended once being that being my home neighborhood and then also me getting finally getting clean and sober there. 12 years. Yeah, yeah, 12 little over 12 years. OK, so that's when you met when you were getting sober.

Yeah. Wow, he treated you so hard of coming out of that. No, of course. Yeah. So Mike, my character with detoxing the whole thing must have been. He has to tell that story. And I mean, yeah, we're going to talk about that.

But this is what I want to know. So then you guys came together, did love line. And so, and I'm going to, I just want to ask you both, well, no, first of all, I have Drew. What was your favorite co-host, Ben? Mike, of course. Well, if Emily were a regular fixture, it would be Emily. OK, good answer.

OK, so I just want to know. I mean, 30 years of love line and you've been here for five. And you listen to love line because you used to print a call over like 12. Right. So do I. He would be like the Corolla years.

Right. Those were the golden era for me. But I want to know what you guys think of how what has changed in sex and relationships? So a lot has changed. When I began I initially began really what motivated me was HIV and AIDS. Neither terms had been coined yet by the way at the time. We were still calling it gay related to test cell disease syndrome.

We were great. We're just beginning to all days. We did not have a cause of the agent. The term safe sex hadn't been coined yet. I'm sure you're right. But before Grids wasn't there a time in where it's actually called the gay flu? There was a time when they didn't know what the hell. Yeah.

They had all kinds of names and all kinds of ideas about it. And when I was, that's a good band name. Yeah, but I mean, I hit the, the gay flu. They were starting to call it AIDS. And we were just, she putting people on the ground, hand over fist. I thought, oh my god. And nobody was talking to young people. There was still a sense in this country we just been through the sexual revolution and nobody thought that adolescents would follow in the footsteps of the adults. Well, adolescents

are not to have sex. They don't even discuss it with them. No, don't discuss it with them. That's a don't. Why do you consider adolescents when you're talking about this? I was 21. Okay. And I was like, hey, fuck that. I know what people are doing. I haven't seen it all the way through high school, and now I'm in college, and I'm in medical school. This is not something that just started.

Young people are engaged in sexual activity, and they need to know about this thing. Because it's not gonna just, people were convinced it was just a gay phenomenon at the time, and I was clear to me It was infectious. So that's what got you in here, but then the call started coming in and when we're coming in and that's mostly what kept me I was got was once a week with Sunday nights midnight to three in the morning Stay a week one night a week at say an hour or two and it's got popular fast and was sort of moved to 10 to one at one point

And I wouldn't stay at all three hours typically I would just I just thought it was important to pump out this information. I did it for eight weeks. I'd say sex. Safe sex would not have termed it had been coined yet. And condoms were behind the calendar. Yeah, I guess so embarrassing. Yeah, I did line up and ask the pharmacist

to get you the condom. And I was advocating this and no one was talking about it. And over the course of two years, it went from like, what the hell do you think you're doing to it being all doctors need to do this now and it was it was a very difficult time for me. That's why I didn't use my last name. I didn't want to tell anybody I was doing it. I was very secretive about it and it was fun and interesting and different and I did it for 10 years for free just thought I was doing community service and so got popular right

away pretty fast. I mean serious people have tried I tried I kick off the right now. My short and I know, serious people have tried. I tried to kick off the right. No, my shorty, no, but I'm kidding. I didn't try to copy that mine's different, but love line. No one else has been able to come up against it. I mean, you really, yeah, we know what we are. I only place everyone grew up on it. That's how that people learned about sex because there's no where else. No, there's other places and other people hold on. There's other people places and other people have tried the truth is, and I hate to say it with him here, no one can do the clinical aspect of it the way Drew can. He's the best at it. There's no, it's absolutely. People love it.

No one's in that ballpark because. I got it. There's plenty of people who can give you the clinical backing to all sorts of syndromes and diseases. There's plenty of people who are very entertaining on the radio and do it in a compelling and listenable way. There's nobody like Drew who can do both. He's both, exactly.

That's why you've been here. So what else is, like, anal sex? No, that was that. So that was that was that. And through that decade, it was sort of a naive notion that, you know, I remember back when Dr. Ruth was telling people how to have good sex. I was like, no, people know how to have good sex. They don't understand how not to get pregnant, how not to get STD.

And it was a naive time. And there was no internet. There's no place for young people to go to get information. STDs. Sex education is a bismall in America. Listen and in the infectious disease and the reproductive health stuff, infectious disease behind this veneer of this is veneerial diseases. No one had any sense of what these things were, what the different names were, what they

meant, what they look like. They knew nothing. It was amazing. It just happened to totally nourish. Did you know that or you'd have to go back and study because you know I saw the time of clinics are tons of right there was so much there's a lot out there then and and I just that's what I was pushing pushing pushing STDs in birth control that's sort of what I was really that's how it all started and then it went from that after about 15 years to more of the trauma stuff started emerging. The trauma, trauma, trauma people, it became increasingly clear that people were acting

out the traumas, but it wasn't as pervasive as it is now. It was just starting to kind of serve as a people making bad choices and relationships and they're having compulsive reenactments and that part got into it. And the information was starting to come from different places so it was trying to straighten people out and more about relationships and really dealing with the consequences of not such good family family systems. Right, which that's kind of the same now.

But now it's now it's horrible family systems and horrible trauma and it's going to work. You think that families are going worse? Oh yeah. How many kids are raised with two parents in this country? Inside wedlock. How's that you more trauma than how many kids are raised with two parents in this country or inside wetlock? I mean I came but didn't the divorce and what's the percentage for the African American and Hispanic community? It's it's it's it's shock it's science fiction. You know when you find out how many people really have a stable Fill home life in in those communities even the married people who are like coming from homes where the parents are still married Could sell the abuse in the trauma. Yeah, but it just got worse

Okay, we come back. We're gonna talk about the and the trauma. Yeah, but it just got worse. Okay, we come back. We're going to talk about what else happened with that. And then they know sex was ever. Okay, but first word from my sponsors, you guys, do you

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Exactly. That's changed and then people you think are just more messed up childhoods and all that stuff. You said so way more. And then of course gets acted out in their romantic lives. Always. It's the patterns. Yeah, they're parents and all that stuff. Okay, so I want to talk about sex after marriage to both of you.

After marriage. Yeah. To my wife's. Or to no, just in general, because you're both in relationships, my you married for two years, you've been with your way for four years, three years, uh, three and a half. Yeah. Okay, and you 23. Yeah.

Okay. So you both seem happy. I mean, you know, you never know. No, it goes. What goes on? I'm very. I am. I hate to make even like that hackney joke. I am I am so

Overwhelmingly happy in my marriage. I know it's kind of annoying She's like like repelled by the Really what I mean what how do you make it work? How do you why do you even want to have I mean you're still I really think a big part Two two big parts remain great. Tell me best tip. One is where you are in your life. Yeah. So that you've got to be ready. For a guy that's very important. You have to be ready.

That's where you are in your life when you're ready to really commit. OK. And then who you choose is really important. I don't think enough goes into that choice. You've got to be there has to be something renewing about that relationship every day for a long time. And if you're not... You need renewing about that relationship.

You've got to be into that person. You've got to be into it. You've got to want to spend time with it. You've got to want to let it be attracted in a way that you know you're going to be attracted long from long into the future. Because if you don't have the attraction at the beginning... It's not going to build. Well, it builds in a certain way.

There's a certain element that... Not in a way that guys are thinking about. Your boner doesn't grow. It doesn't. But your appreciation for that person grows. But so people get married or commit, because they're having amazing sex. And they're like, oh, we have a great sex.

So we're going to get married. And that's very, very tough. And that's very tough. It can. That traction. And you realize that I think everyone should get, you should fill out a form to talk about your sexual likes Dissexual sexual pleasure

The sexual inventory before you marry someone where you act Sexual pleasure and sexual quality of sex is an incredibly important factor into a great relationship in my opinion Yeah, this is you know, you're asking what makes it work. This is incredibly subjective I'm I'm assuming you know, Dr. Drew and his wife do they have an excellent marriage, but So much that goes into it is so unique to each relationship. It's like saying, what's the best diet? You know, it's so personal. But that's a really important point.

But you have to focus, I think it's true. But I was gonna say that the big thing is that, without question sex is a very important factor. But for men, especially, if you wanna be able to really successfully engage in monogamy, you have to, you have to analyze whether or not this woman makes your quality of life better, outside of the bedroom, because I've been in plenty of relationships where, you know, to quote the Kings of Leon, the sex was on fire, but it was was I mean, I think we talked about off the air last week Emily

Where I was saying I remember moments where I was with this one girl where I Actually was like searching for things to say to her and like we just I was I'd be in the moment looking at it I'd be like fuck we have nothing in common. I better fucker And we'd be away on week We be like on vacation with a topic. No, we be away on weak, we'd be like on vacation. We'll come up with a topic. No, we'd be on vacations on weekends, like weekends away. And I'd be like, well, and I honestly just look at her, we'd be like watching TV or something.

I'd be like, let's go have sex. And I, because I would force myself to just have sex there because that was the only time we ever got, like really, I connect. I was actually really common that people are like, I just, and then they realize I'm kind of bored. I think you have to be, the global sort of phenomenon, I I think you have to be excited to be with that person. Has to be fun to be with. Yeah, exactly. You all the time.

All the time. You can't you got to think, am I going to ever going to tire this? Is there something that's going to tire in somewhere? It's going to change in such a way and that'll tire of it. I think that a lot of it to achieve very romantic means I think that a lot of it to achieve very romantic means, to achieve incredibly romantic ends, sometimes you gotta really get rolled up your sleeves and engage in a lot of very unromantic means. And by that, I mean,

to achieve this relationship, this marriage, where you just, you love every moment of it. Like I'm describing where I just am so happy in my marriage a lot of times it's not just about Roses and nights out and fucking it's it's about like us having serious conversations about learning to respect each other as people And I can I could never imagine doing that with any other person even my first wife But people know this I feel like there's so many guys, and this is just, you know,

I talk to a lot of people now, you know, who've been in relationships, and even in their 20s, I'm talking to people, they're like, oh, you know, men typically will date someone that they're really attracted to, and that's all they, they're not thinking about all these other things that I have to really like.

And it goes with that person. Right, but they don't. That's something nobody ever thinks about. It's like super hot. I'll marry, you did it. I'm married with somebody. How do you feel about it? But they're not thinking I might be bored by this person. They're not swimming. But women were more like, is he funny?

Is he smart? Does he entertain me? Guys are just like the physical. I always say when dating and a dating situation. You're going to want to be entertained. You're going to want to be, you know, have a good time. Well, that's really hard to do. To a young man. Because you and I don't. I don't mean that. I don't mean that to be little younger guys

It's just like hormonally biologically you're set up You're not really set up to look at women as a way of who's gonna entertain me. I mean you're just not I know But you're so I think that man should kind of like have some fort like well know what you happen What should happen? She's hot, but find a hot girl in the bar I can say something what should happen which would solve the problem for both men and women is that women and men should wait till they're in the 30s to get married. Oh, that's why. Do not get married. Because women will then start to kind of discover themselves sexually more and it'll level out that way and men will start to discover themselves emotionally and psychologically more

and it'll level them out that way And it makes for much better matchmaking, as opposed to in your early 20s, when women are not most women, aren't necessarily at their sexual- I'm not sexually aware of that. They're not sexually aware of themselves. They don't have the lust that a man has. And then men are emotional, they're insane. They're like tornadoes because they're

just these walking testosterone factories. That's why I tell people to work for you. I'm like, just in their 20s. I'm like, you just, it's okay. Like they don't get attached yet. These guys don't know emotionally. You don't even know what you want. You got to get around a little.

A big factor too is, I had to, in my first marriage, and you said that, well, you married someone for the looks too. I did, I married a way hot person for my first marriage, but it wasn't because of sexual reasons. In fact, we didn't have sex at all. I could probably count on one hand. I thought we were just kept having sex there because you didn't want to talk to her.

No, that was my girlfriend before I got married in my wife. I was so confusing. Yeah, I know. I'm going to do a flowchart. But I was just saying that a big factor for me is that I took my family of origin as As a model of what good marriages and you shouldn't always do that. I mean, that's not you know Because your parents had a good man. You still married, but I like I said

I talked about it on the air No one's I've never heard my parents tell them tell each other they love them I know my parents so fuck and they probably haven't for 25 years. I've never seen my parents hold hands. I've never seen. No, see that's so hard when you, that's what you see in your home. You don't, you think that that's normal.

I thought, I thought, it's a beautiful my dad was always in my, my mom, I think. I really thought that like this sitcom idea of marriage was the way it was because that's the way my dad worked his fingers to the bone, complained about not having sex. My mom complained about how, my dad, my dad worked his fingers to the bone, complained about not having sex. My mom complained about how my dad never around.

And it was like, it was like, you know, home improvement or any other sitcom. It's like, oh, I love my wife, but geez, I gotta tell you about the striped-by feel. And I just thought that's the way life was. You marry someone and then you don't fuck them and then you live together and a guy works and a woman complains about it.

You didn't realize that you could have it all. I didn't even understand. Because we don't have a and they live together and a guy works and a woman complains about you didn't read right exactly you didn't realize that you could have it all I didn't even understand we don't have a model you don't have a model of it like I didn't have a model of like a happy family happy marriage right so I'm still here talking about this stupid dad I know I know when he was married three times before he died so he went out like hi like it was like it was a honeymoon he died sort of I mean it was a month later but yeah oh my god I know Mexico hit a heart attack his 49 and I think if he was here they later, but yeah. Oh my God. I know Mexico, hit a hard attack, he's 49. And I think if he was here, they wouldn't be able to save him.

He was like, you can't go in, right? So yeah, that was a bum. I will be the first to say my people, not at the top of the medical flow chart. Oh, yeah, dude, really. Seriously, I was saying Mexico. Okay, I want to talk about porn, which is one of Mike's favorite pastimes. I like it. I like porn, too.

So what do you guys think about this whole porn? Like how it's affecting people's relationships? Negative. I think people's relationships. Hard to measure yet. I think we think we're seeing young males that are sort of disengaged from relationships because they'd rather not deal with a person since they've got porn. It's perfect.

It's so good. It's all they need. It's all they need. No, you laugh, but I mean that it, it's perfect. It's so good. It's all it is. It's all they need. No, I, you, you laugh, but I mean that it's, it's not. What's going to happen when they get those virtual reality? Well, they have such a regular person with a woman because it's work. That's the, the, the, the, the brains are getting rewired into just being that. They keep raising the bar or what they're, there's that, but they're also is the fact that I hear young males say the following thing.

Like, yeah, girls, they're kind of crazy. It's got to be a- Right, fucking issue, they're hassle, they get mad. I'm fine, I'm fine. And they don't even want relationships to be- They didn't get noticed that too much of a hassle. You want to know an analogy I always use and I think it is a good one.

It's kind of like sports and video games nowadays. A 12 year old kid in 1980s, see, and I was 12 years old in 1990. In 1990, you could only play Legend of Zelda on the original Nintendo for so long before you got bored with a fucking stupid game. And then you guys, I better go out and platoon some hoops, play some baseball.

You really aren't that motivated to go break a sweat and have to deal with the grit of playing real football when you have Madden on an Xbox. It is so awesome. It is so fucking great. The game play so smooth, the graphics show hot. Why deal with the other part of getting sweaty and getting possibly getting a concussion? Okay, so porn.

You're interested. There's hot ass chicks that you can get for free. I can put I can Google I can go to red tube right now and put in anal. Remember, remember, remember a huge component of the male sexual experience is visual, right? And you're gratifying better than they could get a real life. But they don't even know because they're so young. They don't care. They're visual system tells them that you're missing the point that they are so young when I was so young, I was I was over the moon. If I got my hands on a Victoria's secret catalog, that was

like I was the fucking. All the same. think it's the same what same thing that you had a catalog and that you know I was very motivated to go find a real woman right because right because that's all you know I have was like a shot like a maybe an underwear shot of Leanne Tweedon and Frederick to Hollywood you know why you have around the show because we can come and I told I've spilled so much jizz I know I remember I was this is what I would too, because not only is it affecting men, but women typically in their 20s don't know their bodies as well. And then I have a friends who are like in their 30s, 40s, even with women in their 20s,

they're like, I swear to God, they all have sex like porn stars. Like they, they don't really, yeah, they're, they're trying to act. Yeah, really. It's a damn. No, but not in the way that it's good. Like, it's in a way that they're playing a role because that's how they think they should act like the moaning in the way they move. Mind you love your males. Think there's that's what they're supposed to be. Right. And that's where they're

pounding the way during the jackhammer at them. And it's just a terrible place to learn about actually how to have socks that they're learning. Yeah. I said that learning to have sex is like, by watching porn is like learning to box by watching Rocky. Exactly. The terrible way to do it. I know. But I get that it exists and it's not going anywhere. I just wish that people would like listen to love line. Listen to my.

Well, in defense of the adult industry, there's a lot of value to it too. I'm not an anti-porn guy. I just think that you have to, you have to kind of digest porn differently than we used to. You got to understand it's a very powerful force. It really is. really might dig this dig something we've not talked about is I have a sense that in the last year or so maybe even nine months That's it has improved a little bit and I wonder if it's tender

That the ease of access has sort of translated over now the internet is made it also easy to make a physical connection or a human connection. Their sort of the bars come down a bit and now they're more likely to go out into the world. Now mine is not exactly the healthiest thing. Right, because it's hooking up in the middle. Is that my right? Is that my right? I feel like the porn stuff is just on a rise

because I feel like at every party, I've ever outing that I go to. There's always someone who pulls me aside and usually that uses a litmus test or whatever questions they're asking. For a while, I went, at every party, I've ever outing that I go to, there's always someone who pulls me aside and usually that uses like a litmus test or whatever questions they're asking like for a while, I went, everyone's like asking about threesomes, how did I get my way to have threesome, or then it was anal. And now it's all about guys are like, I watch a lot of porn, I, you know, I don't want to do, I do it once a day.

And this guy pulled me aside, he's like, twice a day is that bad. He's like, okay, actually, it's seven times a day. And I can't have it. You know what they're guilty about it because they don't know it's such it's so intense it's so it's so gratifying it's really and it's and I'm not kidding a big problem is it's so good and so available it's the women are so attractive the camera angles in the like it's so good the quality of porn is so high that it makes it a much more dangerous entity and I do think that men are being more judge

than they're with the woman they're like her makeup's not perfect or boobs are perfect like I don't know. I don't know. What I do think is that I think that's what I do. I think that's what it is. And I don't think this. I know this from my own. I don't know if the control size was big enough. This is the what is it?

Not the control group. The control group was big enough because I talked to three or four girls, my wife's friends who were quite attractive in their mid-twenties Actually like the very successful everything going any guy on earth would have been happy to be with these girls And they're all using Tinder and I'm like What's up with that and I read why are you having to use right and I read what these guys are writing them, okay? And every guy is a fucking idiot Why are you having to use it? And I read what these guys are writing them. OK.

And every guy is a fucking idiot. Yeah. And then I start talking to them. I say, well, what's with dating nowadays? And she's like, well, I want out of this guy good. I say, she's 28 this girl talking about. She's awesome. So hot.

She's successful in her own right. She's like, I want out of this guy is 45. And we sit down to dinner. And he's like, look, I'm not going to play games with you. If unless we're, you know, unless we're in, like, some serious sex he's like, look, I'm not gonna play games with you. Unless we're in like some serious sex stuff, like multiple partners, I don't even wanna, you know, I'll drive you home right now. And I go, what a dickbag.

And the other two girls were like, oh yeah, that sounds like that's pretty much part for the course. So I go, wait, explain to me dating in 2014, because I'm out of a loop. I never even did it when I was single. I really date. So everything I'm noticing is that guys have no idea how to behave or treat women anymore because of porn and a tinder. The sex conversation too, which you should never even talk about first date and then you get blame on. I like three cents. 1996. It wasn't even an option. Now, if you strike out with three chicks, you still have 350 million that you have access to on Facebook.

Right. Anyway, they're bound to say yes every once in a while. That's why guys, like, the Lord, they've completely forego the kind of process of getting to know a girl playing the game. But like, look, I'm not going to lie to you. Sometimes I've said things and done things to manipulate girls to get in bed. But at least I had to say and do things. You know, now you don't have to. I never left with that.

That's what you squirt. You know, that's what these guys are saying. Do they think it's okay? My friends, it's a blowjob to Spencer. He's like, every time I go out and Tinder, like, I get a blowjob. Like, it just happens. Like these women like, come to me. Every time I go to come a car, I get blown somehow. No, but it's, I mean, Tinder really isn't as awesome as a phrase, but it's the big, right? That's true, too But it's the big, right? That's true, too. It's a bigger, better deal.

Because think about it, like 10 years ago, you didn't have people poking you where it relates to Pokemon Facebook. They're not liking your photo on Instagram. People are meeting from so many different other areas that there's always someone new popping up on your social media chain that in the past, it's like you went to party, you met someone,

or you didn't, or you were at the store. I had to do two. Yeah. I'm a general agent. I'm a social guy someone or you didn't or you're at the store. Yeah, I'm a general. I'm not. I'm a general. I'm not. I'm not going to go places to meet women.

Yes. Right. And now we use lazy. You never leave your house. You're like, this guy like me on Instagram and you go down the rabbit chain of like, oh, who else are they see? And it's just there's. They don't know how to date.

How to meet people. I hate to use these sports and allergy. But I know. But for my ass, we didn't drive San Diego and go to a Charter's game. Okay. Two or three or four months. Right. And I thought I thought to myself, yeah, sounds cool. You know, I love the city of San

Diego. Charter's cool team. See Philip Rivers ball it up. And I thought to myself, they may could be come up here to join you. Yeah, okay. That'd be awesome. Um, I do myself, you know, I can sit in front of my TV and get HD views of the NFL with breakdowns from really good correspondence and, uh, and, uh, play by play guys. I don't really think I need to go into a stadium with 80,000 people and deal with drugs and stuff like that.

And I think the same thing for, you know, 18, 19 year old guy, you come home from a night at the bars and you think to yourself, why am I going to do this again and pay $20 for a cocktail and try to meet girls that aren't necessarily receptive when I can just open up my fucking Facebook and just rifle through. Right, exactly. And thousands. You could put it out there, like you could like toss the net or whatever, out to like as many women as you could text.

That's why texting, I think it was invented too for guys like at night, like the booty calls, like a text, 10 different whoever answers first. Yeah. When it first started, I was like, that's what all everyone's doing and it used to be like you called them They answer they didn't so and I think that there's this whole like almost boyfriend syndrome Which we talked about on the show last week that people it's not even like friends with benefits It's that someone that feels like they're your partner, but really you're no one's committing to anybody Yeah, I never never navigated those roads, but I can see how grown adults. It's very difficult to have the R.E.

A couple conversation. I mean, how do you do that at and when you're 29 How do you look to another girl and go like so what are we? I mean, it seems very reasonable at 17 It's just I don't know I mean get you go on you go on on your fourth date You've already been sexually active, you hang out together and you go to lunch in between, you know, your lunch break at work, you go and have lunch together. And it's like, you're kind of together, you're sexually active, but like, no one's ever said like, are we boyfriend, girlfriend? Where does that conversation happen? It's very difficult.

No one's even having it anymore because they don't have models of it. So none of their friends are in relationships. But they're also afraid of what they might hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Both sides are going around. I think a lot of the women are going around or going on. I think that the women actually might want relationships more so, but the guys aren't doing it. They're not asking for it. And they're none of their friends are in relationships. So my wife had to have that kind of like it was like a conversation.

Most people were uncomfortable, but it was, you know, I'm 35. My wife's 37 and it's like, we were grown as adults who had already both been married and owned homes and stuff. And it's like to sit down and be like, so are you my boyfriend? It was very weird, you know. How long have you been together? When we had that conversation, like, five months. Did you bring it up or she brought it up? She did. Oh, because you don't need to. I've specifically always brought it up over.

But I just assumed. That's what I hear. I've never brought it up. I hate it. I assumed I'm like wait What'd you say I never want to admit me? Dess you never have ever you're boyfriend. Yeah, exactly. I'm like Do you want to be your boyfriend? I've seen you with three different guys that look like they want to be your boy I know they do yeah, I two of them were fucking dicks who I like all of them are you how many I met I only met you met three No, one three who three you didn't I met one one of whose name remind Rhyme was schmavid You didn't mean him I said did

When okay, we'll talk about and then I met the one with your two friends that wants one of your boyfriend Okay, and then I saw one last weekend That yeah, but that guy doesn't want to be I we already had that conversation with that dude He's handsome. No, no, no, he does now he does again really with the conversation The guy you with the editor Christmas. Yeah, we yeah, we talk you said some girl talk. No fucking he was here You brought him to love line and I go Emily what's with the this guy's good looking. He's nice. He's charming And you're like oh, yeah, I mean And I go, Emily, what's with the, this guy's good looking. He's nice. He's charming. And you're like, oh, yeah, he's my fan. I mean, okay, we We were friends, even friends for a year and a half and then, you know, hugged out, but we're not like now he's in. Oh, now he's in, but in, but

I was saying, what are you guys want to be boyfriend? They're just saying. They do. I think I don't want to. That's really cool. He's Super nice. I love. He's great. Awesome. Very good. So what's the hang up? There is no hang up. You're happy. Exactly. Exactly. No, I'm not the hang up. I swear. In fact, I think you have the talk with them. I've never had the talk of my

life. But I'm working on I've never approached a man like you have never approached a woman. Mike, which I find interesting for all the sex you've had. And I've never made the first move. I've never had the talk. And I have

many relationships for two and half years. I've got to go to school. I've got to the talk. And I have a relationship for two and a half years. I've got to trouble. I've got to trouble talking about that. I don't know who you are. We've got to talk about that. I've got to trouble with that talking about how I don't, I've never, like, asked to grow out and got her number and stuff. And I've fucked, like, too many women account. Right. And it's because, and I don't, I don't say that because I've got to trouble on, especially,

no, especially on, like, love advice type podcast. I've gotten in trouble because guys are like, hey, dude, that doesn't very helpful to me who I go, well, I say that only because for the first half of my dating life, I was high and doing blow. And if you do blow with girls alone, you're going to fuck them. And so it wasn't. I do it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's very easy. That one you're drug. I you drug addict. You do it because it's your you want to enjoy the

coach. Yeah, it's like, so I have social anxiety about women that use a blow. If I get the blow, this woman's going to sleep. So I was I was in a very unique world prior to that. Then as soon as I get clean, then I was on TV. So then I was in another very unique situation where girls would just be like, Hey, how sex with me sound. You know, and I know that sounds like a like even afterwards those women at the hotel, the milves to you. That was insane. He's sitting there like waiting to go in a love line. Like, I don't know. No, no, no, it's worse.

It's way worse. I just got, I just dropped off a girl who I went on a date with and had sex with. And she was doing a, I can't even say she was doing a makeup exhibit. She was a hair makeup for like TV shows. and she was working on a client at that hotel So I dropped her off I dropped her off in her hotel to do her client And I was waiting at the bar there because I was I lived in Pasadena at the time and didn't want to drive all the way back to Pasadena before Love line, so I was like I have 45 minutes to kill while I'm in the bar just dropping off a girl I'm in the bar waiting and these girls from these mils from Texas are like, hey, how about you come to Texas

and have sex with us. And I was like, what? Was their hair like all crazy? No, they were they were in their 40s, but they were very attractive. And they just gave you blowjabs, right? Well, no, one of them, like they were preparing to have sex. I love that I know all your stuff. And they were making out with me. And then they both got topless. And then one got full naked and started blowing me. and I'll never let I remember I was a funny think because she was blowing me and I looked over and the other one was topless on her blackberry like sending a text to someone and I'm like oh that's kind of it's kind of it's kind of it's a good sexual sexual that's really actually thank you very much okay you guys well let's answer an email from one of my

listeners let's do it I think they would love to have a right, you guys, well, let's answer an email from one of my listeners. Let's do it. I think they would love to have Sure, because you guys are like professionals. Yeah, it's about low sexual confidence. Do your Emily the last few days my ex who I ended on okay terms with I'm starting texting me. I don't know. Doesn't say it makes a big difference. Okay guys. We'll probably probably figure it out. Sorry. Okay, it's the last few days. I know I do. I ended on okay terms are getting back. Starting taxi meet. We were goofing around over tax when she said that I was the first guy she had a hard time getting hard and that I wasn't that big and that I was too hesitant and didn't just take her like she like I like she thought I would with this. This is this. Okay, okay, just listen, so this, she made him feel bad,

exactly. This killed my ego and now I'm pretty afraid to have sex with women. I have never been really good talking to girls anyway. And so I'm not the most confident guy ever. So it's not like I'm getting

a ton of sex to begin with. I work out six days a week. I'm studying become a personal trainer all of my friends. Tell me just to focus on that and wait for women to come by, but my thought is why wait? I haven't had sex in six months

and haven't had a relationship for a year and a half. Isn't it normal for me to be seeking out a mate? Don't guys usually court girls anyway? I thought maybe you'd have some thoughts on this, Mike. I'm guessing that he's in his 20s and that one woman can do this. Like I was with the guy who his ex wife said to him like, you're penis is small. And I'm just telling you, it is not a small piece of lovely penis.

It worked fine. I was very happy. I was like, like, I was shocked. It was a really lovely penis. I enjoyed it. It was actually, I would have to say larger than normal. But he, she said, this one thing to get him at the end of the marriage and he never got over it. And so I think this guy, he gets insulted, he's not that big, and how do you recover from that? How do you restore a castrated male? Exactly. And I think more than anything, as I think about it, it's how vulnerable you were to this in the first place.

It's like, why did somebody suddenly get depressed when they had a sudden stressor like they just put them over the edge So they're already was trouble He's already worried about his he's just not whole And if you're not whole it's I mean you hear his email Hey, dude, why you just go hang out with people you're doing personal training You know how to talk to people late people you must be able to a training work. Start just take people up for coffee and hang it out. Part of the same stuff you're telling my son, just hang out. Just hang out. Just enjoy the time with people and stuff will naturally happen. And if you're really into them, be open and honest. But just, you know, don't,

if you're whole, it's hard for somebody to take you apart. But if you're already fragmented and fearful and unable to hold it together, somebody can just pull it down in the house of cards falls. You got to build yourself back up and all, which some of the women are telling him already, which takes time. That's right. Some women are already telling him that, which is right, which is just focus on your work, focus on getting, feeling good about yourself in the world, and then start dating people, but don't jump into sex, necessarily right away, but really don't fall in love with anybody either. Just start hanging out, and if sex happens great,

if it doesn't, also great, and see if you can get some experiences where you get back literally back up on the horse. And he probably feels confident, Mike, when he's at work to start channeling some of those skills of when you're confident. He might. He might. Yeah, right, because these are things he's good at. I'm sure he's been trying you never know. I mean I I think that You'd be shocked. I think that young guys

Very young guys 20s teens. They have a hard time even admitting to themselves how how much They're their status in the world socially, professionally, how much it affects the ego. I mean, yeah, I think that, let's say young guys in their 20s, they didn't make enough money, you know, they, you know, but one of my point is, is that if you don't go to, uh, uh, Ivy League school when you're in college, if you don't, if you don't make a lot of money when you get out of college, if you don't have a job, if you, if you're, if you look at yourself in a way that isn't necessarily boosting to your own ego, that plays a huge role in how

you look at yourself in the bedroom. It's a shame that you have to be really old and over the hill to a point to ever realize that. I just think that everyone needs to go to therapy in the 20s. Well, I was going to say this call or I would think therapy would be an important thing for him because he does kind of have his own life together and yet he still feels empty. I mean, I honestly think that everybody, I think couples need it. I think that individuals and I know and that does a lot of them like, uh, you want to say it again, like go to therapy and everyone thinks that they can't afford it.

There's always ways to get at their sliding skills. But real quick, what is very important and I don't think women understand this by and large. Yes. Drew, don't you agree that he bought from an outsider's point of view? Ostensibly, this young man does have his life together, but that doesn't matter because it doesn't matter until he feels like he has a, that's right. He has to feel like it. And I was, I was a part of a, a worldwide, I was part of a very

a legacy radio show sitting next to Dr. Drew every single night. I was on dance with the stars. I was flying back and forth from New York doing Regis and Kelly. And I, I, you would have thought, you would have thought. No, no, no, you would have thought that I was cleaning up the jizz at a late night porn theater. I mean, that's how I felt about myself. Exactly. It doesn't matter how intense you will tell you you're beautiful, you're amazing, you're smart, you're sexy until you believe that yourself. It's not going to fill you up. Yeah, but particularly for men in their career. Yeah. I got to understand what I call it is sort of your

position in the world. You have to know who you are as a man in the world, what your contribution is, what your worth is, how you, how you're going to make a difference in the world. And the other, the other, that's one take a message from that story. Just rest. And the other is women do not appreciate the impact they have on men. I didn't even know a lot of a lot of men are still 40 year old men walking around still in pain over something

somebody said to them when they were 11 exactly like the peanut right exactly so you've got to realize what's holding you back and if you need to go to I don't know what other way to say there's one is it feels like a broker-mector but that's how we all we've all been in therapy and that's how you're working out so we got to go because we got to do another show. But I know there's like I have a hundred other things I want to talk to you about. Well, it was very nice to join you on the sexual Emily. I love this. This is always this is meant to be.

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