Sex With Emily - Sexual Eu(Foria)

Episode Date: July 26, 2018

On today’s show, Emily is joined by Mathew Gerson and Kiana Reeves of Foria Wellness to talk about cannabis, sex, and how it can improve your pleasure and your sex drive. The three talk about the be...nefits of CBD oil – from pain relief to relaxation to arousal. Plus, they talk about ways to get around painful sex, get into your body, and get rid of anxiety. Thank you for supporting our sponsors who help keep the show FREE: Fleshlight, Womanizer, Adam & Eve Follow Emily: @sexwithemily Follow Foria: @foriawellness Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily. On today's show, I'm joined by Matthew, Gerson, and Kiana Reeves. They're from Foria, which is a sexual health and wellness company with products designed using cannabis. And they're just a lot to learn, and they're going to unpack it for us. All this and more. Thanks for listening. Look into his eyes. They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex. Eyes that mock our secret institutions. Betrubize they call them in a fight on day. Hey, Evelyn, you got a boyfriend? Because my man E here, he just got his heart broken, he thinks you're kind of cute. The girls got a hair standard. Oh my! The women know about shrinkage. Isn't it common all the way? What do you mean like laundry? It shrinks. Can we not talk about sex so much?
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Starting point is 00:01:38 They're from Forja, which is a sexual health and wellness company with products designed using cannabis. And we're going to break that down today because there's been so much about it right now when we live in California. And so there's a lot more about it here, but there's so many healing properties and there's just a lot to learn. And they're going to unpack it for us. They've really been pioneers in this industry. Matthew is actually an old friend that I've known for a while from this industry.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Matthew was the founder of Sir Richard's Condoms, which was so cool because you had your buy one, give one model, like everyone you buy a condom and you gave one to, was it Haiti or yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's Haiti. And I was like, I wanna know this guy, and I think I reached out to him on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:02:19 and we started like sharing, is that we met with sharing like your social media? And we just, you've always been such an innovator, and that was such a cool, like, let me just not help people about her sex and safe sex, but let me change the world. And you've always been changing the world. And now with Foria, you are as well.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And you've just been a socially minded entrepreneur and friend. Oh, thank you so much. And so thank you for being here. In Canteries, who's a new friend, she's a director of communications at Foria. And she does so many other things. I'm not even sure how she holds down the job, but she kicks ass at, but also she's the director of communications at Boria. And she does so many other things. I'm not even sure how she holds down the job, but she kicks ass at, but also she's a doula.
Starting point is 00:02:48 She works with pregnancy, postpartum miscarriage and abortion. You also stream practitioner. So that's a scar tissue remediation education management and just you help women understand their vulvas. You have a scar tissue in so many different ways. So I'm glad you're both here and you're also studying sexual electrical bodywork and you can find them all
Starting point is 00:03:08 for you wellness.com. That's Evo RIA wellness.com or at for your wellness Instagram at for your pleasure, Twitter, Facebook.com. slash for you and we'll have this all in the show notes as well. Got that out of the way. Hello. Hi. What's up?
Starting point is 00:03:23 So first, can you guys tell me a bit about your backgrounds? And I know it's covered a little bit. How you actually got into this industry? Because like I said, Matthew, we met years ago, but then when you were starting for it, it was about five, six years ago. And I was like, whoa. Yeah, it's a good question. And thank you so much for having us here. And it's amazing to see you doing so well, and doing such great work in the space. It's been over a decade. Yeah. And thank you so much for having us here. And it's amazing to see you doing so well and doing such great work in the space. It's been over a decade of watching your grow.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So I'm so glad to be on the other side of the table. Thank you. Talking with you and Kiana. I don't know. I think the plants made me do it. What exactly is for you? Well, the word for you comes from euphoria. Oh, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It's like a more feminine version of euphoria, just F-O-R-I-A. The reason that word is so important, euphoria, which is because the enandamide, which is this crazy neurotransmitter that makes you feel really great, like bliss, blissful, it triggers euphoric states, which I think all of us are running after as much as we can whenever we can, whether we know it or not. So Fourier is basically grounded in an aspiration to help increase pleasurable states and diminish states of discomfort using cannabis-based plant chemicals.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And the first product we developed was around five years ago we made what is known as the first weed loop, which is catchy. It's more of a pre-loom, which we'll talk about later on in the show. But it was, we basically reinvented the use of cannabis as a topical to be applied vaginally for sexual enhancement. And I say reinvented because women have actually been using it to that end for a long, long time. And we sort of just reemerge now.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And it's been really phenomenal watching how women have responded, how their partners have responded to using cannabis in the bedroom to light things up. And not only is it helping in the bedroom, but it's helping to enhance pleasure and to manage pain when pain might be present. And so that got us thinking about how we might be able to use cannabis for pain reduction specifically might be present. And so that got us thinking about how we might be able to use cannabis
Starting point is 00:05:25 for pain reduction specifically to address a really unmet issue for our species, which is menstrual pain. And it turns out the cannabis also has a very long and short history of use for women to diminish menstrual cramping in the pain associated with menstruation. So we made what is known colloquially as the weed tampon, which is nothing more than a cocoa butter suppository with THC and CBD that's inserted vaginally and then dissolves and then goes right into the pelvic region where there's a whole bunch of cannabinoid receptors. A lot of gobblygook, but basically you can take the essence of this plant and you're inserting it into your vagina and it can help diminish menstruation.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Not just menstrual pain but PCOS and the metriosis, other pelvic conditions. I love that you're paying attention to this, all the pain that women have been having for forever since the beginning of time. We feel honored to be in a position to be doing this for a while. Yeah, I love that you continue, like you're innovating on it, like it's not even the we, it's the pre-weed loop, no, the pre-loop, the pre-loop. I mean, I wake up often in the middle than I go, and why me?
Starting point is 00:06:27 I mean, I feel like I'm a sex worker to the plants. And we can talk about that a little bit more in terms of the sexual nature of these plants and what they have to offer us and what we're offering them. I don't think we'll understand the sexual nature of the plants. I'm not even trying to.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I mean, to do intellectually how plants are life and... Yeah, I mean, we're none of us are botanists, but I think we can go for a walk in the woods or we can go lay on a garden and we can quickly realize that our understanding of sex, pales, and comparison to the progenitors of sexual reproduction, which are plants. So they've been doing it for a lot longer than we have. So we like to think about, you know, things emerging out of the garden that might never emerge out of the laboratory. And, you know, it's funny just thinking about our story with Foria. It's like, we, we rediscovered something that has been known for a long time. And we rediscovered it. And I think a pretty
Starting point is 00:07:20 critical time to rediscover this use of this plant. Yeah. Because, you know, as a balm, it's not just a balm for some of our sexual needs, but it really spreads out so far and wide through so many other aspects of relationship and culture, this one specific species of plant, particularly. So from my own personal journey, you know, I ended up in the condom space, just happens to dance. Just trying to address. The condoms were speaking to to address the condoms were speaking to you the condoms
Starting point is 00:07:48 The little latex play latex plants No, it was more from a social orientation social impact, you know Looking where we're the places where we can leverage our unique skills or the efforts that we all put for you know Put to work in our respective livelihoods and try to have some real impact in the world. Sex is a great space to do that. You only get to talk about these great things. Sex and drugs.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah, and it's like real time response. The change has happened in real time and it telescopes throughout their whole life into their families, communities, but not so. Well, here's my question for you guys, because this is nothing new. Can a person being used as an afferdee jack new. Like cannabis being used as an Afro-DGAC, right? Or being used as a plant to heal. And so, not just sex, but also just CBD is powerful to be used to, like, for your muscles can be used
Starting point is 00:08:33 for healing pain, like basically all of your body back to the seventh century or something. So how come now is cannabis having a nut? Is it's time? Yeah, it's moment. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's, it's like a cow. It's right. It's moment so many times.
Starting point is 00:08:47 There was so many kind of false pregnancies of like the cannabis was gonna emerge out of the shadows and onto the scene. And oddly enough, I mean, if you look at it, I'd kind of say unfortunately, but it is what it is. But I think cannabis emerged because it hit the jackpot with the consumer market. It's like, oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Like the states all of a sudden started shaking their head saying, hey, this is okay because the states need money. So that is what got us here. But I think what the underlying root structure was mostly empathogenic. It was empathy. It was people having direct experience of how cannabis was helping with disease, with pain, with suffering, with cancer, with cancer, with so many disparate issues that might or might not have pharmaceutical methodologies that helped.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And so people love this plant, because the plant's been loving them for a really long time. So true. Well, I thought it would be interesting for you guys to help me talk about and explain this, because again, this is like, I haven't talked about it a lot on the show. I mean, anecdotally, like, when you get high,
Starting point is 00:09:44 you can help people get in the mood for sex. But also, that not all cannabis gets you stoned. And I think you'll think, oh, I can't use drugs. Or it's a drug, right, man, I drug. But can we kind of talk about the difference between like the healing properties of the plant and like the difference between THC and CBD or however you want to break that down in the simplest form?
Starting point is 00:10:02 I think you can break it down into one how you ingest. And there's different pathways in the body that when you don't ingest orally or you use it, topicly and in different ways, that it has an incredibly different reaction with your system. So that's one way. But then also cannabis itself is classified into two different plants. So there's hemp sort of. And hemp is the same species and same genes.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And it's very good for you, right? It's very confusing. But it is. It's a great analog to what you talk about. Right. I think talking about plants is very much like talking about sex. Like we want to put everything in a discrete little individual
Starting point is 00:10:35 place and say, stay there. And we break up the human experience, the sexual experience, and say, this is libido. This is sex, right? This isn't to me. This is eroticism. And nothing stays put. Everything's moving around.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And so with cannabis too, it's like, we're constantly learning, we're listening to our clients. We've learned so much in the five years that since we put this product out, there are so many benefits that we had no idea that these things were going to come back, that women and their partners were going to respond the way they did. So it's very much more call and response and iterative than it is like we got it on we got this right because it also does yeah but well I think to clarify for people who may not be familiar though it's important like there's there they are the same plant but there's hemp which has no active
Starting point is 00:11:15 THC in it or very very very very low levels of it right so it's legal to ship around the world to use in those states. Most states, okay. Exactly. And then there's Thank you, Mitch McConnell. That's what you're listening. We wanted to thank you for that bipartisan support of that new ag bill that just made me understand the floor. It got passed, which legalized hemp to be
Starting point is 00:11:36 grown throughout America as an industrial crop because the hemp farmers are debaicing out. Tough to farmers. Which is, which people have been fighting for that for a really long time. That's the thing. It's going to go to law, hopefully, in the next couple of weeks. Exactly. But that's important to note, right?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Is that hemp and is an aspect of the cannabis family, and it is medicinal, and it doesn't have psychoactive effects. And therefore, it can be used medicinal in a number of different ways. And I think it's really important to clarify that. Yeah. And I think to the point of around psychoactivity, what we've discovered is, you know, we've been making cannabis-based products for five years,
Starting point is 00:12:10 and if you use them as directed, and we don't actually expect anyone to use a sex product as directed, but that's where we make everything edible. But if you use it as directed, meaning you don't ingest it or you use it as a topical, or you insert it into other parts of your body such as your anus or into your vagina which we could talk about. Yeah. You actually don't get fully high. I say fully high with a caveat. For the most part you really don't get the same psychoactive experience because of the way your body is metabolizing it. So not to get too geeky with the science
Starting point is 00:12:41 but it turns out that our bodies create the metabolite that gets us super high. Right. So it's kind of wild. If you think about it, you can take high doses of cannabis into your body in the suppository, get all these relaxation, topical, localized benefits, and not get high. And you could eat that same amount and probably pretty uncomfortable with stone. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Interesting. Because when we. Right, interesting. Because when we first met, you were starting, when you started for you, like, your first product was really amazing. Let's talk about it. Because I'm sitting here, I try the new, the Waken product for you. It has a Waken product, which is massage oil. It's coconut oil. It has different healing ingredients.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's got, yeah, eight plants, all of which in different cultures were revered for having quote, afford easy act type properties, which is a pretty broad term. But each of those plants individually were known and beloved in the bedroom. So we took the benefits of all those plants, put them together synergistically with the wonderful master herbalist, and added the cannabinoid, the CBD. And then we get this remarkable result. So let's talk about, because this is what you're most known for. Now you guys are branching out in so many things, but let's talk about this
Starting point is 00:13:48 for your awaken. So I spread it into like my clitoris, my vulva, I filed the directions, at least initially. I'm like, I need to start point. And then you spray it and you wait a few minutes, but I'm testing something. It's not, it's for me, but I'm thinking, well, how would someone else be experiencing this too? and how will I explain it? What I loved is that it just got me to not rush into sex. I was just for masturbation, but to lean back and be like,
Starting point is 00:14:12 okay, and I just did a little meditation, and I really just started to breathe into my body, which is what I know, I tell you all to do, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't always do it. Sometimes I'm rushed. But just the fact that it was the process of putting it on and touching myself and laying back, and then I started to feel like a tingling and like a really like warm sensation and it smells really good like minty, like a cow, yeah, it's all healthy and I love that
Starting point is 00:14:39 and then I just like felt warm and it was like I and I didn't need to apply anything else like a loop. I for me it was like it was enough. And then it just kind of felt like I was able to like put my attention there. We're in the sense of I loved it because I'm thinking about my listeners for so many women. We hear from every single day who are like, I, I'm never in the mood for sex or how do I get my, how do I get on board with it? I don't want to text my partner does. I don't think about masturbation.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And I'm always like, you know, so many of us, we've talked about this too, Kiana. How we're so women are so distraught. We're so disconnected from our bodies. And like so much of the work that you're doing too, like all your work, sexological body work and all the things are like getting women to connect. We just walk around with this part of us.
Starting point is 00:15:19 We're like, I don't know what's going down in there. So I love that it, even for a few minutes to be like, I'm gonna send all my energy and a breath into my pelvic floor and it just kind of gave a more purposeful intention and more to my masturbation session, which is amazing, by the way. So let's talk about, we can, about what, like what have you been hearing or?
Starting point is 00:15:39 I get, what was the need for that? Amazing feedback. I'm a lot of the customer interaction in terms of particularly this product because it's spreading itself because it's having such an amazing reach and people are having such amazing response to it. So one thing I think is important
Starting point is 00:15:56 and you touched on is this idea of like a marination time and slowing down and how important that is because we culturally have this model of arousal that's very oriented towards how men or people with penises have arousal, which is very quick and fast. And women, people with vulvas have a much different build up for arousal. The circumstances are different. It's a whole neural connected network that you really have to be not just in your body space, you have
Starting point is 00:16:26 to be in your mind space, in your emotional space. And so syncing those up is sometimes really difficult for people to do. And the distraction to that comes into our minds and all the things we need to do. So the nice thing with Awakened that I keep peering as feedback over and over as one is the marination time. So slowing down and touching our bodies or having our partner touch our bodies in a way that builds a rousal but that's not just building up immediately to penetration and orgasm. It's not goal oriented. And so we've really been talking about this
Starting point is 00:16:57 as something called a pre-lobe. It's something you do even before you engage in what we know as you do even before you engage in what we know as sex, which is usually like heterosexual, penetrative sex. And that has really, really, really changed a lot of people's experience and understanding. The other thing that I think is really, really wonderful about this that I get feedback again all the time is it helps your body's natural arousal systems so that arousal network and self lubrication, for example, some people will put this on and go, I really can't tell if this is me or if this is the awakened.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And what we think is it's a combination of both. And of course, all of the feedback is from our customers at this point, and so there's no scientific data behind any of it. But so many people saying, like this is helping me with lubrication. This is helping me actually not experience pain. Sometimes I experience pain.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Well, let's talk. Well, one to ask that part of it too, is that 80% of women experience pain at some point during sex, and they just normalize it. They don't do anything about it. So I loved seeing all the comments and the reviews. It actually helps when we can talk about that. Yeah, this is one of those organic things that's happening with
Starting point is 00:18:07 the people you know I'll we'll make a post on social media about you know 80% of women experience painful intercourse at some point during their lifetime and then the back end of our messages are all like that's me that's me people raising their hands saying they're I didn't know that this was normal I didn't know that other people experienced this and it's something we don't talk about. And there's not a lot of solutions. Some people doing some really interesting things on the forefront, like pelvic floor physical therapy
Starting point is 00:18:33 and things like that. But in terms of products, there's none. And there's almost no research and no resource for people who are having that experience. Something we're finding with this over and over again are people who have not been able to have penetrative intercourse. For sometimes even years, I'll get messages that are like the first time in five years I've been able to make love with my husband and I had two organisms and I never ever ever thought that was going to be possible again. That is amazing. It's super moving.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Explain to me then what it is so people are saying I'm like, what how did that happen with this spray right on your cell? So what it's the CBD? It's all the products. It's a moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super moving. It's super working within the nervous system to help relax. So you're working physically and with the nervous system, which is huge. And then the CBD, of course, is anti-inflammatory, one of the most well-known medical anti-inflammatories on the market. And we think that's really helping with any tissue irritation, muscular irritation, deep pelvic floor stuff. So... Marical. It really is. I just love. When I was reading through it, I'm like, I love that you're
Starting point is 00:19:44 helping somebody with it. And the CBD is like I just love when I was reading through it. I'm like I love that you're helping so many women and the CBD is showing signs of really offering benefit for social and sexual anxiety which is what flabancerin was trying to address Yeah, the anti-depressant that massive failure The female biographer that wasn't really in a ralph about biagra. The theme of a agra that wasn't really in a rouse, it was about anxiety. And so CBD is known to really help with generalized social anxiety and sexual anxiety, which is really, really common. And no one understands exactly what it's doing. So we're kind of at the Van Guard right now, putting product out there that has a 10,000 plus year use among humans,
Starting point is 00:20:21 right? They did back in the literature 10,000 years into European, into the industry, into China, into like old ancient medical textbooks. And so it's like, well, maybe some of these entrenched issues that we haven't been able to solve for in the laboratory were kind of seeing some early signs of really profound benefits that are just coming back from a small number because we're just a small company of clients, but they're consistent and they're really strong and we're not, they want to share this with us because they want other women to also have that experience
Starting point is 00:20:53 and share it so we can share with them. So it's helping women get more turnout, get more rouse, is that what you're saying? Yeah, I think it's different than the full band, whatever it is, full band surround, or whatever it was trying to, the bag of things. This product specifically, I wasn't designed to address anxiety. So we are creating CBD products which have a stronger amount of CBD specifically.
Starting point is 00:21:13 You can just help with anxiety in general. Like everyone's got to be an anxious, literally who is an anxious, if you're not an anxious, I'm shocked. I want to put those people in a lab. Like, who doesn't have anxiety right now? In a lot of ways. Some people more, right, who doesn't have anxiety right now? In a lot of ways, some people more, but intense than others, but.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Well, I think that gets back to your earlier question about why now? And I talked briefly about, oh, well, maybe it's the consumer market, maybe that's sort of the how it got normalized, how are we here? We're 20 odd states or now legalizing a medical or recreational capacity, but why now, I think, is more interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And so the why being, we are so disjointed, we are extraordinarily anxious. We are perhaps seeing some of the stresses that are coming from an overuse of our mental acumen. No, we're really bright species in some way, but we're perhaps building really sharp salts and cutting off the branches that we're standing on and we're really high up in the air and then we're all kind of anxious that we're standing on, and we're really high up in the air, and then we're all kind of anxious that we're doing that. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And so maybe like climbing down out of the tree, so to speak, and coming into our bodies, relaxing, having more direct experience of pleasure that's not a consumer-based activity that's just emergent out of your own body, or with a partner or not. This is deeply healing, and it will have reverberations, I think, culturally,
Starting point is 00:22:24 that we need to swing back. You know, I think everyone would admit that we're, whoa, like we're moving so fast. Nobody can keep up. I just thought it was my cell phone and traffic, but that's a much better way. My branches are being cut down. That too! But my cell phone won't stop all weekend. It's like going crazy, you know? It's hard not to wax Phil's philosophical with when you're dealing with this.
Starting point is 00:22:47 No, you're loving it. Yeah, because you're just in it. And it speaks to us and it's speaking to all of our clients in very unique and meaningful ways. Well, I just know a lot about CBD because of how it helps with like, a cancer or not arthritis. And I mean, just so many like, um, just kind of pain in general, right, the bone and the, you can not also inhale it, the vapes and stuff. So, and then cramps, I know can help with cramps.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah. You guys have the, we do, we have a product called relief, which has again been this incredible revolutionary product for so many people who have pelvic pain, menstrual cramps, endometriosis, so many different experiences that are very common and there hasn't been a lot of progression in terms of pharmaceutical or scientific research on how, or any natural alternatives for those pains. So we've had a lot of really incredible first hand feedback
Starting point is 00:23:40 from particularly endometriosis community, which are people who are experiencing this like on a very regular, very intense basis, and often on the heaviest dose of pharmaceutical painkillers. People have written to me and said, I've completely gotten off of my painkillers just by using your product, and it's absolutely changed my life.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Using not awakened the relief, the depositors. Yeah, so let's back out, we should talk about relief, because relief also known as the relief the deposit. Yeah, so let's back out we should talk about relief because relief also known as the weed tampon. It's not a tampon and we can talk more about why that is but it's an important thing to talk about in and of itself because I think as a species we've radically failed women to address this monthly phenomenon, which is throughout
Starting point is 00:24:26 the world still a source of tremendous amount of shame. And even here in our culture, it's just not accepted. And women have to suffer through this silently. And the only thing on the market right now to our knowledge is like a rebranded hiccup drug from the 1940s. Yeah, right. Exactly. Like take another pill or.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. pick up drug from the right exactly like take another pill or pick another pill which it's on the bottles like might have long term negative consequences well mental crimes happen for a long period of a life so it's been interesting for us to see how this plan that was originally we were utilizing for the sake of a pleasure enhancement in the bedroom and we developed relief was that we kept hearing from users that it was also dampening pain and allowing pleasure signaling to go through. So normally if you have a pain condition in the pelvic region, you're going to go to a pain specialist and they're going to prescribe you an opiate. And that might be okay for you. If you have severe pain, opiates can be phenomenal allies to help humans have less pain. But if you're trying to experience pleasure and you turn off the receptor, you have no pleasure.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, I feel like this whole, I mean, we spend, I always say like a quarter of my life, I will spend either PMSing or have a period and like a men during that time, a lot goes on. Like I get really angry and then I say the next three, you know, are kind of blow things off. I used to feel like swimming for college. I'm like, if at one week of the month, I'm spending like in this crazy, and then I got to spend the next two weeks cleaning it up, like no one talks about that.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So if there was a way to just help women with this pain and stuff, I just think now it is becoming a thing that women were actually like looking at different ways to help women with this month. They think, now what about men? I feel like we talk about men. I mean, they're cramps. No, men don't have cramps, but like,
Starting point is 00:26:08 what about any of your products or sexual? Yeah, it's interesting. Could we all have anxiety, sexual anxiety? Sexual anxiety. Well, I think that would be a good use for a CBD product for men that have sexual anxiety, a higher dose of CBD to deal with anxiety. In terms of like physiological response, trust me, we've been trying.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Are people been asking us for five years? Why do you, all this stuff for women? It just turns out that this plant specifically, which, remember, this is harvested from the female of this plant, it creates the flower. It has all these compounds concentrated in its flowers, and it's a female. It's not the male. It happens to have all these benefits to the females of our species. So what about the men?
Starting point is 00:26:50 We're still working on it. And we do have some things that might not be fully normalized across the board for everyone, but we found that introducing cannabis similar to introducing it vaginally through a suppository, which is what relief is, we do that with erectile suppository. Okay. Well, I wanted to, guys, there was an article that came out a few weeks ago, it was a study, and I saved it,
Starting point is 00:27:13 because I knew you guys were to come on. I was so excited about, does marijuana increase sexual drive? So it was kind of printed everywhere over to a new study, and I wanted to kind of go through it with you, and see what you thought about it. Yeah. So they found that many women who used marijuana daily a new study and I wanted to kind of go through it with you and see what you thought about it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So, they found that many women who use marijuana daily had about 20% more sex during the previous four weeks in their peers who abstained from the drug and they asked, this was a version of an CNN written by Ian Kerrder who's a colleague and a well-known sexologist, sex doctor as well. What's the connection between sex and marijuana? So it's actually how marijuana affects the libido. People who use, you know, see, here's just some thoughts around it, that people who use marijuana may have more sex because they
Starting point is 00:27:54 put less pressure on themselves when they're high, so they don't have the same performance anxieties as those who are sober. That was one sex therapist. Another one said, a small amount may help increase your ability to communicate your preferences to your partner. You just kind of like an anxiety. I mean, I think so much what we're talking about is your anxiety goes down. You have a little more relaxation. You can actually say what you want and what you need. They're talking specifically about THC in this part of it. It targets a part of our brain associated with sexual rouse, or at least in females.
Starting point is 00:28:21 So what would you have to say, would you say about this? Are you like finally or did you already see this? Well, I would ask you how does your defining sexual drive and sexual desire, right? I think this is important to be gloss over the terms. We do and they're often misused. It's a rousal desire. And even with cannabis, there's a vast difference between a microdose and a dab. So you could onboard a000 milligrams of THC into your body and be okay if you have a super high tolerance because the body does build up. Because the THC is the more psycho.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yes. Tropic, psychoactive. Psychoactive. Or you could take, like me, two and a half milligrams. And that just, enough turning like a glass of wine that you feel. It is like a glass of wine. It's better, I have to say this though wine that you feel. It is like a glass of wine. It's like a glass of wine.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And it's better, I have to say this though, because I feel like alcohol is, alcoholism is, is really a problem in our, everywhere. But I feel like some people are like, all I need that glass of wine at night, I just feel like, yeah, for some people. I think cannabis is the new shard,
Starting point is 00:29:18 right? I think it's, yeah, I think it's being written about us in such a way. I could see that. I think it's interesting, and I'm guessing that this article was about people who are ingesting it through smoking and healing it. I don't think it was specifically topical or other ways,
Starting point is 00:29:32 but it really wasn't right. It is saying that they're having more regular sex. And the thing that that says to me is it's, you know, because I have smoked before, in my experience and other people that I know, is that you immediately get brought into the present moment and you really are out of your head most of the time
Starting point is 00:29:49 and really in your body and really able to feel things really in your senses. And there's nothing that works more with a rousehold than being in your senses and in your body and being able to like feel. Maybe, I would caveat that if you're comfortable in that place, but someone who's just in their head working stressing kids all of a sudden they're super present
Starting point is 00:30:10 They're not gonna automatically be like I feel sexy Way too present That's true. I got to look at your own emotions. I've been blocking and you've been numb mirror life So the people who are long-term users, I think they've gotten comfortable with coming into presence, coming into their body. So then they could engage intimately. Because I've certainly noticed some periods of my life of I alter my consciousness.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And it's too much too fast. I could imagine trying to interact with other person and their needs and their being. It's like, whoa, it's too much. So a lot of this is like, it's all new to us. But maybe we're so, we want to throw the throttle. It says, yes, cannabis is good for sex or no, it's too much. So a lot of this is like, it's all new to us, but maybe we're so, we're gonna throw the throttle. It's like, yes, cannabis is good for sex or no, it's not. And we're like, we don't.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's just like everything. We don't know until about doses and different kinds. That's a thing, I'm not saying it won't just jump into this, but it might be something else to look at. Well, everyone's so unique too. And for me, arousal and desire and even wanting to have sex, so much relates to our nervous system and our stress levels.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So anything that's working with stress levels in the body, I would say it's going to help orient us towards pleasure in our lives. Exactly. The more you breathe into your body and the more we just kind of deal with our stress and anxiety through breath, through yoga, through whatever it is, it's five to ten minutes. I feel like it's huge. We guys stay and help me answer some emails from the people. Okay, great. of deal with our stress and anxiety through breath, through yoga, through whatever it is. Exactly. He's five, ten minutes. I feel like it's huge. Will you guys stay and help me answer some emails from the people?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Of course. Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, we're going to give a shout out to our sponsors. Thank you everyone for supporting them. I love you. We'll be right back. Emily, wouldn't you say stress is probably one of the need number one inhibitors of stress is the biggest killer of our
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, I've desired I'm stuck to that people are like don't want to sex because they're so stressed I'm gonna work and we're going on the computer. We're connected. We're in traffic. We get home How do we want to sex that last thing on our mind? Yeah, and just say and I know even I get and like I got you know, I know what it takes I got a turn on my phone I got to sit and meditate and breathe. But sometimes you just, you're like, no, you really get to sit, but yes, I would say
Starting point is 00:32:09 that it is definitely anxiety and stress. And that's all head-based. But if you can somehow drop into your body. So what I like about this, about talking just kind of us more openly, so glad that it is more open. I hope you can see that there are some solutions. Perhaps for them, if it works,
Starting point is 00:32:25 that they could kind of relax into their body, maybe not have wine and beer or as well, as I don't know, and consumption. We had great feedback a little while ago from a customer of ours who talked about how she actually has been using a waking quite a bit and she was experiencing like regularly very painful intercourse and she was like,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I know how to drink that glass of wine now every time because I do get really relaxed. I can not have this fear of like pain during penetration but I can trust my body and I can really orient towards like the pleasure part of it. So I found that really powerful because- With the four-year wick and that's- I just love this because I've never been able to tell women I could say see it pelvic for a specialist. This is amazing that you're hearing from that from so many women. I definitely have a tool to keep in your toolkit. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And as a guy who uses awakened frequently, even though I don't get a direct physiological benefit to a more pleasure directly, the smell. How do you use it? I mean, I'll use it for like, how do you use it? I mean, I'll use it for self pleasure. I'll use it for oral. With my wife, I'll use it for intercourse. Like, we'll use it in, it's always,
Starting point is 00:33:31 it's in every room in the house, just in case. It's our go-to. It is your go-to. But what happens now is like, I sprayed some on before the show, and like, I turned around like I thought my wife was in the room. Because now I so associate the smell.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And so, like like if you think about the word sensual, like scent. So we're really fascinating. But like how does scent and and fair mones and smell play into the mechanisms of arousal and how we store erotic memories. So what's been really fascinating for me is like using this product, having deeply pleasurable experiences of intimacy. And then it stores that memory in that smell. So I can smell this on the way home from work, and it unpacks that memory, and it starts getting my body turned on, and it gets me out of my head.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It gets me out of this stress response from being at work and being in traffic, and it gets me back into the juiciness of the body. I love that. So like, for a rouse or sake for guys, like using this the essential oil piece, like oh, we poo poo essential oil. Essential oil, what? Yeah, I like smell.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It's like our deepest memories. And these are deepest memories. We get through smell. And the smell of our lovers. Yeah, and I was going to say that it's, I think scientifically proven that the closest sense that we have that's tied into memory is sense. It's like the most accessible way for us to access things that maybe are a little bit. It's true. It's so true. One thing to combat stress or to get
Starting point is 00:34:54 yourself in the mood for sex is to think about all the senses. So I say like go in your bedroom like light a candle, play music, you know, this would be great for taste. It's gonna taste so good. But like the, what are you feeling hearing, smelling tasting, because when we're in our head so much, that's immediately dropping at the experience. So I love that this can kind of do all of it. So it's interesting about people locking in certain sense, because I noticed that too in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'll drive past something or smell something like, oh, that reminds me of whatever, the gas smell was in Indonesia. I was like 20 years, I smelled like petrol or something. It's true, it's not that many of you are some petrol. We do, we do, but you're like, remember your app. But I think that's a really interesting. We're wet asphalt, you know, when you're a kid,
Starting point is 00:35:34 and it rains and you're outside, I don't know. I know, no, it's true. We don't pay much attention to it. So I love that you lock this in with your wife. That's sweet. The thing I like about it too is it'll bring up parts of memory that aren't like your visual or known memory. It's really like the subconscious feel and like the feel at memory and it'll bring up emotion as opposed to just
Starting point is 00:35:54 like the visual kind of like remembrance of something which is powerful. Right, it gets out of our head really. So I think I love that it brings up a different part of it. Now what about this is an Aphrodisiac. Like how they say, like cannabis has been used as an Aphrodisiac in so many cultures and stuff. What do you guys think about Aphrodisiac? It's a funny word. It's a fear of mobs,
Starting point is 00:36:13 Aphrodisiac. It's a fun conversation because, you know, all, there's an encyclopedia of the Aphrodisiac, which is a really phenomenal book. And it looks at a couple hundred plants that humans have figured out over the few of the millennia that we've been figuring these things out. How these plants work with the human body in the bedroom. So we've been at this for a while.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I mean, we've been trying to use plants to get off for a really long time. Like a long time. A lot much longer than they've been by aggers been around for. We've been sniffing plants and being roots out of the ground and being like, wonder what this is going to do for you. This kind of looks like a phallus. I wonder what this is going to do for you. This kind of looks like a phallus. I wonder what this is going to make me hard. I mean, that's where it began.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So we're still in there in that same place, like wondering what is the turn on? And how is this going to function for me? And we'll do it for everyone. We always want everything to do it for everyone every time. But unfortunately, with sex, it's not going to work every time. You can't reproduce great sex by just reproducing the activity. Exactly what happened last time, step by step, that's true. Well, you guys are making good internet.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I love what Foray is doing, and I'm sure helping people, you guys are wonderful to know, to work with them to know you, Matt, and just to see this grow, and everyone's like, talks out for you, and I'm like, I know Matt, I'm important to start it. Kick it this.
Starting point is 00:37:19 This is exciting. I mean, we think there's so much more to come, that's gonna be revealed from this relationship that's happening right now between people using this plan all of these unique and really intimate ways. And then sharing with each other on social and like communicating, this is all ground up. Yeah, people want to know more about you. Yeah, it's a great time. So you guys can all check it out.
Starting point is 00:37:36 If your website's great, they can get on your website. They can. We are able to sell a wake in and future CBD products that are coming from industrial hemp globally. So we can ship worldwide. Our THC products, you have to visit California, Colorado. Come visit! We have a good time here. We have a good time here. But I think just starting with this is great. So emails, we have Matthew and Kiana here from Forja. They're gonna help me. Okay, so I love answering your questions on the show. It's why I exist on the planet. So if you have a question, I'm going to answer.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You can text Ask Emily, all one word to 7979, 7979. You get a quick form, you fill that out. And as always, include your name, your age, where you live, and how you listen to this show. Okay, this is actually about endometriosis. So I thought this would be very helpful. You guys can answer this, help me answer this. This is from Madeline 20 in London, and it's about endometriosis. So I thought, how perfect you guys are here
Starting point is 00:38:29 to help. Hi Emily, I'm a bisexual woman and I've been experiencing pain during penile intercourse. I was diagnosed with endometriosis earlier this year and I've had an operation to try to help, but it's been five months and I still can't have penile intercourse without excruciating pain. This makes it really difficult to casually hook up with guys as I feel like there's a lot of disappointment and not to mention it's a real mood killer. This is leading me to think I should start exclusively sleeping with women. These experiences have been less painful and more pleasurable. Please let me know what you think. The doctors don't
Starting point is 00:39:03 seem to regard this as a serious problem. With these doctors. Oh my God, so much. I mean, I was thinking definitely she could see physical therapist, a pelvic floor therapist. We recently had Heather Jeff Kodan the show. She's a pelvic floor specialist.
Starting point is 00:39:17 She talked just a lot about helping one with pain, how we have this. We don't know how we disconnect from over to China's, but her whole pelvic, the entire region is just so confusing to us. And doctors are not really trained in this area that much. So I think that I'm not sure which doctors aren't regarding it's a serious problem, but I would tell everyone listening that if you go to a doctor and they're saying you don't really have a problem, luckily there's a lot of other kinds of doctors you can go to,
Starting point is 00:39:40 especially when it comes to pelvic floor pain and dermatiosis, all this pain that women are suffering from. So I'm so glad she wrote it now that we were just talking about this. Can I what do you think? Yeah. So my first is what's happening when you're with women versus when you're with men that's making it not painful. Because if there's insertion there I mean, it's like it's insert. She says it's with penal insertion, but you can't have insertion with women.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So is there something that's happening- Oh, emotionally? ...definitely. ...definitely, or if there's more warm-up, or there's more something happening in the nervous system in her response to men versus being with women and feeling of safety. So those are all things I would consider. I also think endometriosis is really linked into hormonal health, and there's been some great benefits from modifying your diet.
Starting point is 00:40:27 There's an endometriosis diet that you can look up. That's great. There's other things that you can do that can help detoxify the system to really balance out, to make some of the effects of endometriosis less painful. The other thing I would say is experiment with topicals that can be pain relieving.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like awaken, like we're talking about. Yeah, away can like, or talking to you. Yeah, away can sounds like, I mean, you can't imagine it. You were mentioned it. Exactly. I've heard the way to play women with endometriosis. So she's in London. Yeah. Can she get this?
Starting point is 00:40:54 She can get it. Okay. Cool. I think try this. Try to see a public floor specialist if you can in London because they can also give you right. What do you think that would be helpful for? Like, I'm not different exercises, different ways to move it to understand it.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Pelvic pain, it's a complex thing. It can be neural, it can be psychological, it can be emotional, it can be obviously physical with the imbalance of the endometriol as growing outside of the U.S. So it's a lot of things. Good advice. Okay, thank you Madeline for emailing us, let us know how it goes. Okay, this is from Emily28 in New York. My current boyfriend of two years
Starting point is 00:41:28 was the first male to give me an orgasm through oral sex. Lucky for me, it's his favorite. I was always able to orgasm by myself. He's been wanting me to orgasm with him inside me. I've told him that only like 30% of women can reach climax through penetration alone, but here's the problem. When he uses clitoral stimulation, when he's inside me, I'm distracted.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It's as if I can either focus on his penis inside me or on clitoral stimulation, not both. Why can't I feel both at the same time? And yes, I can orgasm when I use a toy that's both internal and extra. I've been tried slowing down and breathing, but it's almost like my brain can only process one sensation at a time. Is this typical? How can I compound this if at all? Thanks so much, love your show,
Starting point is 00:42:10 and all that you do for the world. Sounds like Emily, and I can relate to this too. I kind of used to feel this way about 69, the position, because I'm like, either I'm giving or receiving. I can't do both. You're going down to me, I'm taking it, or I'm going to give you a killer blow job,
Starting point is 00:42:23 but I just did the both. I don't know what to do here. So I totally understand to me. I'm taking it. I'm going to give you a killer blow job, but I just, they're the both. I don't know what to do here. So I totally understand this. So I think like for Emily, like she's probably still in her head a lot because obviously she's the orgasmic and she can experience a lot of pleasure. And so I was thinking maybe she could try having a little orgasm first when he's inside of her, but it doesn't have to focus on his penis necessarily.
Starting point is 00:42:42 She could also be stimulating her own clitoris and not have him do it. So she could control when it's happening. And I'm wondering, you know, what different types of toys she's using with both stimulations. Because a lot of times, what I tell women, if they can have something on the ground using a toy, their hands, transfer that to a partner. So how can you be sitting or moving and use his penis in that same way? So you can have those same kind of sensations and orgasm? And I also just like people to take the pressure off
Starting point is 00:43:09 of how this is gonna be. Like she's so under-hatred with it that maybe just kind of take intercourse off the table or just focus that one at a time. One at a time. Yeah, what would you think? I would either want to. You wanted to say something?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Well, I'm definitely going to defer to you too. Oh, but you gotta say it. Well, I did want to encourage Emily to think about your orgasm being yours and your boyfriend didn't give it to you. I was going to say that too. Thank you. When I read that, I would, because then as I cut myself off and I was like, I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:43:39 But yes, when I hear women say he gave it to me, it's like I'm carrying around a bunch of orgasms in a bag. I'm going to hand them out to women. It's not the way it looks. It's not that way. You write exactly. You, we are responsible for our own orgasms. Thank you for this clarification.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I would take the focus on orgasm off the table, even if there is penal intercourse. And for me, I would say something working with building sensation, so working with G-spot stimulation and then working with clitoral and then moving back to G-spot and then back to clitoral. Really like, easing out of this typical idea of what we have, like, once we start having sex, that's the thing. We keep going with that pause in the middle of it. Increase your clitoral stimulation for a little while and then go back towards G-spot because the thing is the way that engorgement works.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Sometimes the G-crest, the urethral tissue is the last to get totally engorged. And so depending on your level of arousal, it's something that gets sensitized more and more and more as your arousal heightens. So if you experience experiment with that, then it might allow you to feel. I love hearing that as a guy, because it's, you know, guys, I have performance anxiety and we're like, oh, is this working? Is that working?
Starting point is 00:44:50 In the minute we think something's working, we go for it. It's like, oh, it's working. It's working. And, you know, it's interesting to hear you say that. And it's beautiful the way you put it, but allowing for oscillation, allowing for there to be like pulling back,
Starting point is 00:45:01 even when something feels really good. Like edging, pulling back, and then going back to it, and then pulling back. And creating some space and some breath so you can actually start to feel what's happening, not just be overwhelmed with sensation, like oscillation. That's a nice one. That's good is a good one. And it's just the way of saying like, I really would love people to stop thinking about sex
Starting point is 00:45:20 is so linear. Like you were saying, it just goes from for play to we make out, then foreplay, then orgasm, then sex, then orgasm, and then we roll over and watch Netflix. I feel like it can be so many different things. Like it can be you start with your G spot and then go back or start with anything kissing and just different sensations and not be attached to what you think it should look like.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And kind of tricking her, how she's gotten used to this. So this has become her problem. You know, Emily, like. That could be cool. Like break it up, like just stop in the problem. You know, Emily, like. That could be cool. Like break it up. Like, and you just stop in the middle, and like, say, hey, I'm gonna go make some eggs.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I'll be right back. And then come back. And like, you caught up with this sensation. Like, this sensation prayed, it like run ahead. And you're like, what? And so go make some eggs and come back. And then get back down again. Yeah, learn to keep your arousal going.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Keep that pilot light lit. Yeah. Okay, great advice. We've got one more. I thought that was just funny, okay? Because it's just, this is from Lee 21 in California. Hello, Emily. Have you heard of herbs just such as longjack,
Starting point is 00:46:14 maca root, or horny goat weed, which can all be used to boost libido? If so, would you recommend these, or do you have any advice in taking these herbs? Now, horny goat, what do you think, guys? I wouldn't take any of those. I would talk to an herbalist, and I'm here up on San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:46:29 He's in California. In California, I'm sure you can find your local herbalist and talk to them directly about these different herbs, because a lot of these herbs are known to help with arousal and men. But a lot of the stuff on late night TV turns out that they're grinding up other pharmaceuticals and putting them into these drugs, and there's and phantom means in them. There's a whole lot of risk
Starting point is 00:46:49 associated with just jumping on the bandwagon for the next super herb in the bedroom. So I would talk to an herb listen and find out the history of these herbs and how they're used and how maybe they're used alongside other herbs to increase their efficacy and then experiment slowly and obviously make sure you talk to a doctor if you've got a heart condition. If any other thing's screw going on, you want to be concerned about. Because sometimes when you increase vasodilation
Starting point is 00:47:12 for erection, you're also going to increase the risk of heart attack. So these are, you know, because they're working. We're often, oh, it's a plan. So I don't the worry about it. Well, perhaps there's less risk, but there's certainly still risk. If it's active, it's active.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, it's not actual go. He's a horny goat. What are they doing with this goat? And he's eating meat. I don't know. It's not legit, right? So, yeah, I guess it's tough for all these. This is what's advertised on TV.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You get it 7-Eleven, like the co-op of those pills. Like you guys don't buy that stuff. Yeah. And I mean, Makka's really well-known, but it's an adaptogenic. So it's, again, working with the nervous system to help mitigate stress. And adaptogen means it helps your body do what it needs to do. So if you're stressed, it'll bring you stressful levels down. But if you need more energy, it'll give you more energy.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And sex hormones play such a big role in libido. And I would say, along with talking with an herbalist, get your hormones checked out. Cause thyroid, testosterone testosterone things that really Feed into what we call libido are really sometimes biochemical. Yeah, exactly. I feel like hormones are not discussed enough Either and we don't understand enough about because it's harder to test hormones And so I just think that a lot of the things that we attribute to I Don't know even like depression and anxiety whatever we're experiencing a lot of it is hormones. You can go to a functional medicine doctor
Starting point is 00:48:28 and they can do a hormone at all. Exactly, that's good. I can all over that. I just started doing that. I had like, pianist day, like, five times a day or something. I'd like, set my time. Did you ever done that?
Starting point is 00:48:37 I'd like, set my clock. But I feel like, well, I'll let you know, everyone. If you want me to remember that. Oh, you didn't really like deep sexy voice. So, you'd like, me to remember. I'll read it in a really deep, sexy voice. I've been like, yeah, exactly. I've been like, how do I get my feedback? My estrogen levels are peaking. So, that's how we have time.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But I have a quick question for you guys. Since we sort of are like at the kind of the forefront of how the cannabis industry now, like I feel like it is a little bit still like the world west, where do you you see the cannabis industry going in the next five to ten years? I'm like it's not about where it's going in the next five hundred years, but we'll have to come back on the other business. Okay, but can we? Yeah, you will come back. I love it. I've been wanting you on the show for so long. This is the treat. What's happening with the cannabis industry? I think just looking at
Starting point is 00:49:22 our experience over the past five years, which in the cannabis industry is like cat years, it's like literally feels like 50 years. Right. I think we're gonna see a lot of people adopting cannabis that otherwise, like my mom, who said no. Right. No, that's not okay. Like my grandma too.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah. And you know, they've already heard the stories, it's getting more normalized, and it's really gonna hit when they have the direct experience for themselves. But right now, it's like people need to keep an open mind, the hearts open. They're hearing all these beneficial stories. So I think if you looked at the trajectory and you look at the trend, it's a plant that's here to stay.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It perhaps has more to offer our species and many other plants that we've discovered. And it's like saying, Hey, I'm right here. And I grow really fast. And I love you. So I think that's, it's a silly hippy thing to say. No, it is. But it's really true. It's true. People don't, like, you know, someone that loves you, they care about you, they offer you ways to, like, be happier and be healthier and have more pleasure and less pain. Like, this plant does that in every instant. So I don't know, every 10 years from now, I don't know, a plant in every bedroom. But right, like I said, we don't have, I always say like a Lou, whatever it's
Starting point is 00:50:30 tonight, staying in plants in every bedroom, because I do feel like a lot with the, we hear so much about the pharmaceutical industry is in a one I think that that that that might be the plants time to shine and people can start to really kind of look at it. Because right now I'm like, I expect everyone to go out and whatever they want to do today, but be the first time they've heard it talked about in a really intelligent way, kind of crossing all, you guys know a lot about it and to kind of just kind of maybe I'll look into that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I think there's new options. There's more options. It's been taboo and hidden in a lot of ways for a long time, so I think bringing it out into the open allows us to do medical studies, allows us to normalize it in our culture a bit so that people who really were brought up in an era where cannabis was the gateway drug and it was marijuana and we you know is this like not a good thing that's really changing. And so that's what I like to see too it is changing and healing. Yeah and so we're not just based on anecdotal evidence from our clients like so we believe
Starting point is 00:51:20 that we have to pursue this scientific method and go through the ring, so to speak, for proving out efficacy as a medicine. So we actually have the first of its kind, an observational study of around 500 women using our vaginal suppository for menstrual pain that we'll be talking about in the next month or two. So we do want to see that move along in tandem. The medical science is usually five to ten years behind where the knowledge is. It's true, it's that. It has a lot of training.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah, it's a lot of training. So we don't want people to wait to get the benefits, because we know this is such a safe plan, because we've been using it for so, so long. So everyone can get the benefits now, and the doctors will catch up and say, we told everyone to say we told you. So we already know.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So we're exactly, well, thanks for doing all the work for all of us. Yeah. We already know. So you're right. Exactly. Well, thanks for doing all the work for all of us. Yeah. I appreciate it. It's been a really tough work. It's been a really tough work. I know. Well, sex and drugs.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Sex and drugs. Sex and drugs. But we have good young men at the end of the day. Well, when you're ready for your next day, we can start a band. Then we can say we did it. We did it. We got sex, drugs and rock and roll. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Oh my god, I love it. I'm in. I'm in. You got a great voice, Emily. Thank you. I don't know if I can sing yet, but you know. We're going to leave you guys tonight with a little song that Emily wrote. Oh, the pressure, the pressure. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Thank you. This has been awesome. You guys, everyone check out Forja. For your wellness stuff. Everyone check out ForjaWellness.com, more information on the website and the show notes. Thank you both. And thanks everyone for listening. Was it good for you?
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