Sex With Emily - Super-Size Your Orgasm

Episode Date: December 1, 2018

On today’s show, Emily is joined by Forrest Andrews from the company Aneros to talk about all things prostate – from orgasms to stimulation, and why we need to get rid of the stigmas. The two discuss the ins and outs of prostate play, how to unlock a full-body orgasm – no ejaculation required – that also leaves you ready for round 2, and ways men (or their partners) can expand their sexual pleasure and explore all the hot spots. Thank you for supporting our sponsors who help keep the show FREE: Adam & Eve, Apex and Fleshlight Follow Emily on all social: @sexwithemily Follow Aneros on instagram: @aneros_official For even more sex advice, tips & tricks, visit: sexwithemily.com Check out even more Sex With Emily on SiriusXMStars 109 Mon-Fri 5-7pm PST! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily, and today's show I'm joined by four standards from the company Nero to talk about all things prostate. From orgasms to stimulation and why we need to get rid of those stigmas, topics include the ins and outs of prostate play, how to unlock a full body orgasm, no ejaculation required, and that also leaves you ready for round two, and ways for men to expand their sexual pleasure. Trust me, there's a lot of hot spots left for you to explore. All this and more, thanks for listening. Eyes that mock our sacred institutions Betrubized they call them in a fight on me

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we're cool with that or get a free trial at sexwithm.com slash SXM. And for all social media, find us at sexwithemilyacrosstheboard. Really excited for my guest today. I am joined by Forest Andrews. He works for Eneros as their business and product development manager. Eneros is a company that really takes prostate toys to a whole new level.

Welcome, Forest to the Show. Well, thank you for having me. I mean, I'm very glad to be here. We're so excited because we've been familiar with the nearest products for a long time, but then after we met at the adult novelty manufacturers at Xboro and me as we call it, talking to you is just so fascinating about your experience with the company and working with them. So, can

you tell us, you know, I would love you to share that with the audience, but what you do at an aerosol and how you found the company. Well, actually, I found it in my search for a treatment for prostititis. What I should say is that although this product is an erotic product now, at that time it was being marketed as a health device. So I mean it's taking back a little bit back in my 20s I started to have prostititis and it became a chronic thing. And can you explain what prostititis is? It's inflammation of the prostate, it can be caused by a variety of different

things, it could be bacteria, it could be non-bacterial in origin. It's one of the hardest things to deal with. When it is bacterial, it is fairly simple. It's usually dealt with fairly quickly. But there are other aspects of this that can take this on for years. I kind of got a chronic form of this. And so I'd been through every antibiotic known to man, been on one that was over two years straight. Yeah. And you had a lot of pain. I was just sure it was okay. I did.

And it would, you know, it kind of wax and wane, but it was always there. So I came to point in my life where I was looking towards, you know, alternative therapy. And it was with that that I came upon the aneroes online. And the peculiar thing about it was is that the first time that I used the product, I had this earth shaking whole body orgasm. First time I used it and I was like, what is this? You know, it was something that was completely out of my frame of reference. And I called the company and, you know, to say, you know, what gives.

And they said, well, you know, we've had some people calling in about this. But it was a, what a side effect, right? Yeah. Yeah. what a side effect right? Yeah, hell what a side effect it was largely news to them But I believe that what happened was is that there were so many of these calls or so much communication There was accumulating that they realized You know that they they should also market it as an erotic product because it was very powerful in that respect So I have a question for you though as a a medical device then, what were they saying besides prostititis, what were men buying it for?

Prostititis symptoms of BPH, which is enlargement of the prostate, and chronic pelvic pain syndrome, which is really just a form of prostititis that is non-bacterial in origin, and it's kind of idiopathic. I mean, they don't know really what causes it, but people just get it, just probably what I had. Okay, and did it help with your prosthetic? Yes, it did. And I mean, within a period of six months, that was gone and I was having these rocking orgasms

all the time. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about that because on the show, you know, we've talked about a lot of straight men, let's say, or men who have never dabbled back there and they just thought that it's just for exiting, or people believe. And I think my listeners are changing. They're not just thinking, oh, it's say your men who have never dabbled back there and they just thought that's just for exiting or people believe. And I think my listeners are changing, they're not just thinking, oh, it's going to make

me gay. In fact, in the last few years, I have to say that there's been more interest now for men. Gay and straight, but it's interesting when the straight men are like, yeah, I want to try it. You've said enough about it. Like I'm interested. So, let's go. That's good because we've been trying to be a part of that.

Yeah, no, you have been. I think, and I think it's, no, you have been. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's just like, you guys, why not? Like, if you could have the most earth-shattering orgasm, like, why wouldn't you try it? Absolutely. So there is still this, you know, a certain taboo, but let's talk about this orgasm that you have,

how it's different than... Well, before I go, let me just say this, I mean, if this gives everybody some indication of it. In terms of our demographic, in terms of how we've broken this down, about 60 plus percent of our demographic is straight. Okay. 30 plus is gay, and the other is in a term. So that gives you an idea of what it's all about. And again, this is not confer a sexual persuasion. Okay, this is about people enjoying pleasure. Right. It meant pleasure that you've never had before. It's also healthy. It's healthy for men to stimulate their prostate. It is. And we can get into that too. I mean,

it's a little bit we should start there. Rather than you guys, we're going to get to the pleasure part in a minute. But let's talk about why it is healthy for men. And what kind of men, what else they might be suffering from or experiencing that it would be helpful for certain types of men? If we kind of go back on it, historical, just so you know, I mean, this is how the product was developed. It, there was a time where prostate massage was the gold standard

for dealing with things like prostatitis and for dealing with symptoms of BPH. There weren't antibiotics that dealt with that kind of thing. It was really that way, even up until the 50s. So men had to do their own, or they go to a doctor, or do a doctor's? And there were a lot of GPs back in those days that would actually do it. Okay. You know, with the development of antibiotics, you know, that kind of fell by the wayside. Fast forward into the 80s and into the 90s with the emergence of holistic medicine, with the emergence of alternative medicine, people looking for more body safe alternatives in

terms of, you know, how to deal with this. And in truth, as I've told you, this is a difficult thing to deal with, these medications weren't really cutting it. So, you know, fast forward again to 1995, there is a Japanese urologist who has been using prostate massage in his practice for a series of years, seen the benefits of it, and reckons that if there were a way for his patients to do this in the privacy of their home, they would do it more often, and therefore receive greater benefit from it.

He seeks out somebody who will create such a device. He comes in contact with the owner of our company who at that time was an inventor by trade, had all sorts of patents and various things. And within a period of about a year, year and a half, he had developed this product. By the way, which is a patented product? Okay.

Yeah. All of our products are patented. Was it the first that on the market? Yes. And of course, that's what I thought. It was amazing to me. Well, it is the first hands-free self-propelled prostate massager. Okay, so it was the Japanese errolidus

who came to the founder and said, develop this. So then he was like, okay, and then he developed it and they started to sell it and it was for medical purposes. Exactly. And you forced founded it. And then you're like, hey, orgasms. Right. So and then so you would use it every as you when you were doing with your prostate, would you use it a few times a week? Yes. What is the protocol? Well, there it's

it's not specific. You know, It goes from one individual to the next, it may change a little bit, but yes, for a period of time, I was using it every day. And then it, as the symptoms subsided, I would use it a little bit less. So it'd be maybe three or four times a week. And so I was able, you know, see, the thing, of course, was that what I found was I had

to differentiate between sessions that gave me orgasms and those that I was doing purely for therapeutic. Right, right, right. You know what, it's kind of difficult. Yeah. But could you end them all with a little, with an orgasm? Yeah, I did. But, yeah, why not?

I could do not, right? How do you decide, though, like, were you still masturbating, like, with your penis, or do you just, how do you decide decide can you do at the same time? You know just I should put this out there because we haven't made this clear the orgasm that we're talking about here Folks is a non-agiculate or orgasm, okay? It's very important for people to understand this and when I say that I should say you have to understand as well that that ejaculation and orgasm Okay, or two-sepid phenomena exactly and as well that ejaculation and orgasm,

okay, are two-sepid phenomena. Ejaculation does not occur as a result of orgasm, okay? Keep going, no, let's talk about it, right? Okay. So, I think that's really interesting because I know people who practice. Excuse me, let me correct that. Ejaculation occurs as a result of orgasm.

Right, yeah, exactly,, not the elsewhere round. Exactly, not the other round. So, right, and then you could also have orgasm without ejaculation, which some men practice if they're practicing like, dauacex or they're practicing like, or tantra. Tantra, exactly.

Again, this stuff goes back thousands of years, millennia to the date, to the writings of the Taoists, and tantra, it's all there But in you know Western traditions. It's it was something that was just lost on us It was lost. You just hid it and quit it right usually for men And so now we're saying so now there's this whole area that they can Explore so what does it feel like to orgasm without ejaculation? It feels incredibly good Okay, because there's no cleanup orgasm without ejaculation. It feels incredibly good. Okay.

Because there's no cleanup, no, it's good. That's an aspect of it too, but I think that most people usually use ejaculations at the top or at the end of things anyway. It starts, first of all, again, these are subtle sensations to start off with. That's one of the reasons that it's so often missed by men. There are precursors that we have all the time that we just, we ignore. Why do we ignore them?

Well, I was just telling you, associate, it's like, assume that this was like sound. You have a sound that is 80 decibels and you have something that is 15 decibels. Which one is the one you're gonna hear? Okay. Okay. And ejaculation is something that just completely

predominates and there's a reason for that because there's a biological imperative that goes along with it is Procreative, okay? It's something that is pleasurable and so you know, it's about survival of the species, right? Right. These are different. It's something that is programmed into us as well, but it is a much more subtle kind of sensation to start with. But when it is built, you know, a stimulation creates sensation, sensation creates a rousal

and a rousal creates orgasm. That's how we look at it. And it's kind of a positive feedback loop that one gets into with this. So it starts subtly and you feel these kind of twitches. It's almost like to start off, if you ever stretched yourself and you feel and you stretch and you're abdum and you feel this kind of like tickling sensation, that's a cousin of this. Okay, that's related to this. That's how it's, that's how it can kind of start. So these sensation start deep within the pelvis

and it builds and it builds. And when you come to the point of orgasm with it, yes, there is a genital component to it as well, but it goes far beyond that. It extends all over your body. So it's something that you feel everywhere. So in addition to that, because there is no ejaculation, there's no refractory period. So there is no loss of arousal. That time out that all guys get right after an ejaculation. So what that affords you is to be able to have these orgasms one after the other. You can have non-stop orgasms. You think you said a record or something, do you? Yes.

I did. One of the many times ago I kind of wanted to see how deep the rabbit hole went. Why not? Yeah, it was about 122 of them over a six hour period. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. I wasn't the same for a week. I'd never do that again.

No, you had to keep hydrating and order food. I mean, I'd never do that again. I did it just, you know,, like, ordering food. I mean, I'd never do that again. I did it just, you know, as I said. Yeah, well, not. It's a good story. I mean, normally these days, I would get by with somewhere between five to 10 or something like that. And you get by with that now. Yes.

And the other thing about it, let me just add one other thing about these kind of orgasms, is that they last, or they can last for minutes at a time as opposed to the 20 seconds that most men are very familiar with, right? So between that, between this whole body effect, between the fact that you can replicate them and have them non-stop, between the fact that they last for two minutes at a time. This is why we call it in the narrow side a super orgasm super orgasm Yeah, that's a great term for it. Thank you. I always did you I'm gonna start saying that because I was like you guys What if you could have an order? It's an amazing but super. Oh great the super. Oh, what who doesn't want a super? It's there any other change that for having these orgasms with this different kind of orgasm that you experience in your body like you over a health

Does have an effect on your mental clarity and does it do anything else? Well, absolutely. I think that, you know, you're not walking around with a scent. How would I put it with a euphoria all the time? That's not present. But you do have a certain sense of well-being and empowerment. It's funny because I, one of the things that I told the owners of the company way back when is, is that shortly after having this experience, I felt like Superman. I really did.

It was as if I had discovered another sense. Yeah. You kinda did, because it's different. Yeah, but just like Superman, I had to keep my glasses on. There wasn't anybody that could really tell about it Right exactly there wasn't and that's why you know, I became such a Shall we say evangelistic user of the product I wanted other people to to to experience this at first just a validation of my experience

I mean am I a freak or you know what exactly right and And in fact, you know as time went on and I mentored I mentored quite a few men on this over the years, and other people added their experiences into the forum. I found that this is part of our birthright. This is what our bodies are capable of. Right. There's no downside. You're not going to hurt yourself with this.

No. Okay, we're going to take a quick break and back with more of this interview with Forest Andrews. Let's talk about the actual product now because I've looked at it, no I don't have a prostate, but I gave it to a friend and I was like, yeah, you just, you want to go slow, you want to breathe, you want to use loop, but I think it might look intimidating. And then he went home and I was like, because he had never used any kind of product. And he was like, oh my God, that was the best thing. But what would you say about that starting out, or if there's fear for men, like, are they

just took a whole new area that they've been carrying around, but they never explored? First of all, let's be clear, okay. Most of our products, 80% of them are under one inch in diameter. So we're not talking about something that is huge. The other thing to bear in mind here is when you hear prostate massage you know if you're 30 or 40 or older do not associate this with DRE guys. The digital rectal exam. The digital rectal exam. The GPs do not. It is not that at all. That is a far more invasive and far more aggressive form of massage. This is very subtle. This is very subtle. It's very gentle.

It's something, again, that you can use to accompany just about any encounter. I mean, if you're using it in a traditional encounter, if you have this inserted and you're receiving oral from somebody, if you are giving oral to somebody, if you're having a, giving, receiving a hand job, if you're using it during intercourse, any motion that you, you make with your body is translated into massage internally. One of the things that we realized very early on is that just generally, in general terms, when people are aroused, a lot of their movement is translated into very, very small

interactions, anal contractions. They're not aware of it. This is where you're seeing it. But this product amplifies that. And so you become aware of that in a good way. So do you recommend that it's better to try it on your own first, though? If you are using it for purposes of trying to explore

this super O, yes. OK. It's pretty much required because you really have to tune into, again, subtle sensations and really kind of work on focusing in word. Okay. If you're using it for traditional encounters, absolutely not, you can use it right out of the box.

Okay. Yeah, why not? I guess it's how brave you are daring just to kind of try something new, if you're in ventrism. So I know for example, when I saw, we talk a lot about like G-Spot toys for women. And I'll say try this toy, go home, but don't, you might not have the orgasm the first time,

even though it might take you months. It could take you the, I can't tell you when it's gonna happen, but have patience and just breathe and turn yourself on and just helps have a literal orgasm first. So you're more roused and the G-spot becomes more swell. So I don't guarantee anything. How is that, does this compare? Are men going to like, is it going to happen for them?

Will they have the super O, the first time they try it? There's some that do. I am one of the lucky ones. I want to make that clear. Okay. You know, we used to keep stats on that. We really don't because it's kind of been all over the board, but the truth of it is that there will be some guys

that get it the first time like I did. There will be some guys that take a period of weeks, there's some that take months to get it. The cool thing is, along that continuum, they're still having pleasurable sensations. But that's the thing, it's pleasurable. It's not like you can't be masturbating that continuum, they're still having pleasurable sensations. But that's the thing, it's like pleasurable. Exactly. It's not like you can't be masturbating, tell you typically do with your penis and then

have it inside. You're just, right, which I think is what's have patients around and speak exploring new rajan so which is what we're all about here. But it does take, again, it does take, if one is going to go, you know, for this, this super orgasm. Again, it takes some focus to be able to achieve that. What's that focus about? So what do you, like focus on your sensations?

Yes, it starts breathing. Yes, breathing. You know, it's, look, they're, talk about the four pillars of Tantra, right? Yeah. Which are breathing sound, a movement, and I'm leaving one out. That's only three. Breathing sound. Oh, and mental focus.

So, right, so those are the four pillars. You can have orgasms. It's possible to have these kinds of orgasms from any one of those. Okay. Our product actually engages three of those. of those. Our product actually engages three of those. It has the movement, it engages the breathing and the mental focus. If you have all of those in line, that's when this really happens. That's when it really pops. It seems like that would be doable. What I liked about it, I see you have it in your pocket and I'll tell you, is that a pen? No, that's the analysiseros. So, I love when you were showing that it makes too much sense that when it's inside you use the bottom to kind of, that's the massage, it's kind of how you steer it, if you will inside of what you, inside of you or how you move it is using the bottom.

Well, it's for people who can't see this. Well, listen. They want to go to aneros.com and they want to look on products and they look for the helix trident. That's what I have in my hands right now. It's one of our most popular products. It is about four inches in total length out of which three and a half to three and three quarters inches is insertable.

The largest part of it, which is near the tip, is just under an inch. After that, it tapers down and near the stem, that is the, or excuse me, it tapers down to a stem, which is near the base of it, and that is the most narrow portion. So, the way that it works is that when it's well lubricated and you insert it, at a certain point it becomes self inserting. It goes and it finds the right spot immediately. Extending from the base, you have two arms. On the top, you have what we call a p-tab. Okay, that is where the p-tab is.

On the bottom, you have a k-tab. Now, the p-tab is something that engages the perineum. This is that people know commonly as the taint, very sensitive spot, acupressure spot. On the other side, you have this K-tab. And that contact scenario that we call the K-spot or the Kundalini spot. Again, it's another acupressure spot. So these arms and these tabs that are on the end of the arms, those are the areas that they contact. When this is properly inserted, you have something that will stimulate all four rodgenous

zones simultaneously. So your contraction is balanced in such a way that your contraction pulls the device in and pivots it upward. As it does that, it stimulates the perineum and that case spot at the same time. I want to talk about the case spot too. I want to say that we also have a great product review on SexBelny.com about the Helix Trident called Hands-Free Prostate Organisms with Aneros.

You can check that out and also go to Aneros and check it out there too. Tell me about the case spot. It's interesting because it's something that in our first generation products we didn't have, this actually there was a handle that's out on the back of it. I would say this between the the P spot and the case spot, it is more subtle still. I have had orgasms just from stimulating that spot alone. But again, I think that it's something that probably the more experienced user will key into more easily. When used in combination with the piece spot and with the overall massager, again, it

forms something that is very, very, very powerful. Okay. Just keep going. I guess that is the thing about. And the same thing goes for my experience, using discovering different parts internally, like the G-spot, and then there's the interior, but there's all these different spots too, that the more patient you are and you breathe into it,

you realize that that's why sometimes I think, I don't even want to call it the G-spot. I want to call it the G-area, or we get get rid of the G and just the area, the internal area because it's, I feel like you can get tripped up on that. If you're just going in with the intention of exploring with also focus and breath and you know, it's amazing what you're going to discover. That's why I'm always talking about this for women. This is why I just love that you're here for men.

I feel like I, having such prostate envy right now. I mean, just watching you like hold that and think about what the possibilities. So there are many different parts of you. You've got the helix, like what's the difference between like the helix and like the maximus say? Or the, how do you know where to go? It's just starting out.

What we discovered, the company discovered fairly early on, is you try to build a device that is a one-size-fits-all, of course. But ultimately, what you find is that there are people who do have certain preferences. So this particular product, the Helix, the thing that's always put it kind of in the flagship position is that it has a great combination of a little bit more focused, a little bit a little bit more sensation from the head of it and at the same time it has tremendous responsiveness. Something like the Maximus, this was created for somebody who was interested in more fullness.

So they like larger objects, they're larger toys. And so we created the Maximus for them. We also have a product that's called the Progasm. It's on the larger side as well. It is fuller, yet it has more focus than the Maximus does. We have products that are smaller than this particular one than the Helix. We have a product called the Eupho. It's kind of interesting with respect to that because for a long time, the company had promoted that as an advanced user's product. They're feeling about it and there is some truth to this,

because it seems to be most effective, at least in terms of triggering the super out, with people who have really good muscle tone. However, it's also a terrific product for people as an icebreaker, because it is smaller. It doesn't have as many of those specific ridges. Yes. And so, in terms of girth, it is smaller. For example, if somebody was into traditional, they wanted to use it for partner play. I think that product is great. I've since had them change some of the wording on the website to indicate that that's a great product for somebody who enjoys that.

We also have products that are overcoded in silicone. And these not only look great, but they tend to have a little bit be a little bit more comfortable because of that silicone in terms of insertion and all of that. But they don't, again, same. So for example, there will be a Helix Trident Sin and there will be a eupho sin. That's what we call them

So it's a synthesis between something it is rigid and something that has a silicone overcoat So yeah, we have a fairly wide product line at this point and it's been developed in order to you know sort of You know meet certain people's preferences. Okay. is there any big pain if they go too fast or is it gonna be, is it more about breathing? It's kind of like anal sex in general, right? That's, I think that that's certainly one of the more unique things about our product because one is using anal contractions.

It's not really possible to harm oneself doing this. Now I'm not saying that if somebody doesn't, if they have hemorrhoids or they have some other condition, it isn't possible that they could have some discomfort from it, but that is not the experience 90% of the time. Yeah, I didn't think so. No, it isn't. It should be said that this product is never to be driven

by hand. It is anatomically designed so it engages the prostate in a particular way. It is not supposed to be driven by hand So don't be putting it in an absolute plug or something. No, it's a massage or it's a very important distinction It absolutely so it's not about blood. I mean some people who have had experience with with prostate player anal play Certainly, they know what you know from working with a dill or from you know a vibrator Most of those products engage the prostate only tangentially.

Okay, so they don't, it's not the right. Right, it's not right on it. So that's why we say you have to be very careful with this in that sense. Not again, used as directed, there's very little way that you're gonna hurt yourself with this because your sphincter does not create enough force to be able to do that.

One's hand, that's a different matter. Do you recommend that men could also use their hands to do their own prostate massages? It's pretty tough. The thing is, you have to be pretty limber, shall we say, to make that happen? And then depending on how long your fingers are, and then you have to be able to keep it up.

It's not to say that it can't be interesting and it's something that you can't explore, but I have, you know, and many men have. But in terms of doing something that is convenient, that is easy to do. I would, yeah. It's just like going right there. It's like the bull's eye.

Exactly, it's just made to go precisely where it needs to go. Exactly. So let's talk about some other Benefits so like I hear from you know so many men or obviously men in the world have experiences with premature calculation or Ractyl dysfunction Is there a way that that could help men who are having some difficulties? Yes, there is and I'm gonna Preface this by saying that that a lot of our evidence on this tends to be anecdotal.

We have a large user forum. It's tens of thousands strong at this point. Yeah, I've heard of me. Yeah, we've checked it out, but I also have heard from men who are like, I know they're forum. Yes. And there are great many men who have reported success with premature ejaculation from this.

And I'll tell you one of the ways that that's possible. What I've already described to you in terms of having this super orgasm, finding this alternative pathway, this alternative arousal pathway. If one becomes adept at doing that, familiar with going to that level, ejaculation at that point becomes a choice, not an option, not mandatory.

One is able to focus that energy towards having this type of orgasm as opposed to an ejaculatory orgasm. In that sense, it's really ejaculatory mastery in a whole different way. Yeah, that makes that makes sense. And also gives them some confidence, too. I would think that they can get pleasure. Yes. And then there's a lot of erectile dysfunction, or PE does have to do with anxiety, or you

have to do with thoughts in our brain, and that necessarily a physical issue. So if you can kind of feel like you're really taking your sexual health into your own hands literally, and you have some control, and you're more in touch with your body, I could see how it would help. Absolutely. And in terms of the erectile dysfunction, what we've noted is that it's also an effective kegul cizer to speak of. Women are familiar with this. You're in contracting with this device, you're exercising all of the pelvic floor muscles, including the PC muscle in there as well. So in that way and in the way of improving circulation within the pelvic girdle, again a lot of men have found that this has

been helpful in that regard too. Okay so tell me more about this aneros forum. So men can just kind of in a safe place communicate about whatever is going on with them, how they use the toys, but what else? I know it's a very popular forum. Well, for the most part, most guys are talking about using our products. They will discuss various models. Different guys will have their preferences. But people talk about everything.

I mean, they're large threads that are on tagging, that in there and there's large huge threads that's on nipple stimulation that's in there. For men. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm one of them. So that nipple stimulation, is that orgasmic for you? Absolutely. I go into just full blown multi orgasms with nipple stimulation. If I have somebody who is good with their mouth, absolutely. Okay, so let's talk about that with that is something that does not come up very much around these parts. Well, listen, in my case, it's kind of odd because in my case, originally, my left nipple was the only one that would do this.

And I trained my right one to do it too. Most men wouldn't even think to touch their nipples and then I feel like in the past if I have, I always thought it was a little uncomfortable for men. No, I don't think it's that way at all. It's analogous to what we were speaking about before. We all have, a lot of our equipment is the same. It is.

You know, and if it's not, it's homologous, meaning that it's sort of developed from the same stuff, right? Right. In the case of nipples, it is pretty much the same. I think that with a lot of things, with the Super O, as we were talking about before, there is a sense that has to be developed in terms of letting go. And if you have, I think there's some men that have sort of a misconception about nipple stimulation, as they do about anal play.

It's like shame, it's judgment, it's whatever. It's quite as harsh as that, but they may see it as just a feminine thing to do. And I like to tell people, and you hear this, it's kind of overworked, but I think that people do need to get in touch with their feminine side. Yes.

And really what it comes down to is it's getting in touch with your entire body and seeing what your body is capable. Again, if there's one kind of central theme to all of this, it's explore. Yes. You have all of these things that are open to you. If you do, you'll find that it's a very rich realm. I was telling your assistant that I had a friend who was, it asked me why you know that they should engage in an anal play and why they should take this device

and insert it. Somebody who is just, in essence, pretty happy with where they're at. And what I said to him, I tried to come up with something to kind of explain it as I said you're watching black and white TV, man Okay, that's good speak. Yeah, I'm watching color TV. I'm watching high definition TV Mine is 4k You know what I'm saying I do so I in essence if we explore ourselves You know, there are all sorts of places that we can go. And Nipple stimulation is just another one of them. Very, very powerful stuff.

I've been pushing that too, pushing it. I'm a pusher. I've been pushing this for women too. I always say for women, it's a second most common orgasm type of women, besides a vaginal, but it can be common for women to have Nipple orgasms if they don't often explore it. It's because they themselves or their partners haven't taken time to really explore it to slow down to

mouth, loo fingers, toys, you know See what feels good to you and I honestly have not encouraged that around men I don't think I've heard that as often. So it's funny because for me it was kind of a natural before I don't think I've heard that as often. So it's funny because for me it was kind of a natural before, even before I explored all of this, if somebody stimulated my nipples, it was like a bee line to my penis. I mean, I felt it, that,

it just, I felt it down there immediately, okay? And since I crossed over and since I've done these other things, that's not where I feel it anymore, I feel it in my prostate. I mean, I feel myself just swell from it. So the prostate's become like the main life force for all that sexual energy, which makes absolute sense to me. So how would someone go about them finding the right one for them?

Where would they start? I think that they should start within our esform. I think it's a great place. We do have, on our website, we do have a tool that they can use in terms of choosing a product at this point. Yeah, it's basically something that enables them to kind of filter down through the different devices by answering several different questions. They can go that route, but the form is terrific with respect to that too. It's great, okay. Yeah, it really is.

In general, I would say, for most people, I would direct them to the helix. I think it's terrific, either in the rigid form here or in the sin. Okay. I think that's, it is our most popular product. All right, that's it. If they've have more experience

and they're looking for something that's larger, fair, the progasm would be terrific for that. Progasm. Yes. Progasms, I like that name. I like that name. That's a good name. All the things.

But there are many, again, there are many different products that we make. And, you know, somebody, you have to look at them and see what it was right for you. And again, you can certainly consult our forum and put it out there to any of our members. Yeah. Okay. And another question view is, are you seeing a change in this from men thinking like it's taboo to moving towards trying it out? And why do you, that's one thing

you're seeing different than why do you think this taboo still? Well, I think we've already covered that to a certain degree. I mean, it's I think that it exists because there is this homosexual connotation that's associated with anal play. And you know, it's ridiculous. We certainly have been trying to do a lot. I personally have been trying to do all the damage to that for many years. I feel like you've done so much. So thank you.

I think that there is, has been some levels of success with respect to this. I think that men are more open to it. I think that men are more open to it. I think that women are more open to it with respect to their men. It's interesting. Back in the day, I used to go to a lot of the consumer shows with the company and they would have me come along. I love those. I know.

We are good. It was particularly if it was a good consumer show and The people that I loved to to pitch so speak would be the women They they were the best or the women with their partner Yeah, because you know, it was always them wanting to do something different for the guy They wanted them to experience and to go to a level To to a higher level and for a lot of women, you a higher level. And for a lot of women, you know, when we discuss the superhero, a lot of these things sound familiar to them. Exactly. This is a place that they know. And so it's like, hey, why shouldn't he be able to do that?

Yeah, he should. Yeah. Yeah, we've all gone, you know, a lot of us have done that expression. You're exactly right. That's, that's, I think, because we have been hearing for more straight men who are interested in then a lot of women asking about it. In the last, I'd say three to five years after 14 years of doing this, it's been great. Maybe just even three, but more and more. So that feels really good. I think we're going to see more of it.

So you're doing good work. Thank you. Forest, thank you so much for being here. And I have cookie questions for you. Five questions. What's your biggest turn on? We have to call our guests. Biggest turn on.

Oh my. My biggest turn on? We have to call our guests. Biggest turn on. My biggest turn on, boy. This is like a Rorschach test or something. Anything, it could be a word, a phrase, it could be something you see, it could be. For me, actually, one of the biggest turn on for me at this point is creating a new product. It really is. Yeah, oh, I get it. Honestly, I have to say, it is such a high when I come up with something and it's something that is really effective.

I try something for the first time and it's just, you know. You're pioneering. Yes, really are. I love that you're still as passionate about it as I am about the world that we live in. You've never done. There's so much more. So it does keep you going, okay, your biggest turn off. Homophobic people. Yeah, even as a straight man,

I just think that that is just awful. Yeah, sexy spotty part to you. My sexy spotty part or for a woman's sexy spotty. Whatever, anything. Well, the thing that I whatever anything well the thing that I that I guess the thing that I would come back to is years ago I took a class this is before any of you guys were here but there used to be a lady who taught self hypnosis called Pat Collins the hip hipnascist and she was up on Sunset Strip down just doors from down from where

guilt-turner was or is to stay and one one of the things that she had keyed in on is the sexiest organ that you have is between your ears. And it really is true. And are there things that turn me on visually? Yeah, there are tons of those. And it's hard for me to decide about that. But really the mind, it is so deep in the places that you can go and the places that I have gone

as a result of using these products. Yeah. Mine. Okay, your number one sex tip. I would say take your time, go slow and let things reveal themselves to you. Oh, I like that. Okay. And what's more important, comfort or passion?

Passion. All right. Good. Thank you so much, Forest. Anders, we're being here from Maneros. I. All right. Good. Thank you so much, Forest. Anders, we're being here from Maneros. I appreciate your time. I appreciate everything. So we can find aneros.com.

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