Sex With Emily - SWE: Guest Fernando and Greg

Episode Date: January 3, 2013

Greg Sherrell from Fernando and Greg in the Morning discusses gay dating in San Francisco. Greg reflects on growing up gay, from hiding his porn to telling his butch brother he prefers men. He also explains his shock at finding out his Dad's ex-wife was the lesbian soft ball coach. Greg breaks down dating, from the gym locker room to the club. Emily and Greg also talk about the differences between gay sex and straight sex, the Grindr obsession, amateur porn, double penetration, and orgasming without touching your penis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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listen to our podcast, I'm at for a mailing list and you can not so find me on Facebook. My fan page is sex with Emily. So thanks everyone for listening to the show. Great to be here today and we have special guest me with Menace. First of all hi. How you doing? What up menace? Do you want to introduce our special guest? I want to introduce Greg from Fernando Greg here in San Francisco on a move in all sorry. I used to be moving. He used to be moving in 997 now now. Yeah, calm for Nando and Greg in the morning. Highly rated morning show. Highly rated super famous morning show. I don't know about super super famous, but we're getting there. We'll be there. I've been fans of you guys for years, even before you came over to CBS. You wanna hear a funny story? Yes. So we're doing, I don't know if the program director here

knows about Super Secret because of the way he conducted things, but there was already a morning show at this station that I was going to work for, which was moving. And I think everybody kinda knew that that morning show was gonna be gone, you know, when their contract was up. But when we did our interview with the program director, he had us at a Restaurant, he met us at a restaurant right next to the radio station and who walks in but white menace

Hey for Daniel and Greg Did it so supposed to be like this super Right, and then men's blows and tweets it out to everybody. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We could like, dude, but I'll tell you something that you probably don't know, menace, is that the first time we came over here, we actually saw you, and we ducked behind like a CBS TV van

to hide from you. Yeah, but I kept everything on the DL. I earned your trust in that. Yeah, yeah, you did. I'm just saying that, you know. Okay, so tell me about your show. Like why? What?

It's so popular. People love you guys. What do you think it is? You know, I think it's because it's a fun show. We talk a lot about absurd things. We used to be on the dance station, Energy 92.7. A lot of people knew us from that.

And that's kind of known as the gay station. Right. And um and your gay Let's put it out there. I am if you can't figure it out of our listeners are not in San Francisco So they're all over the world so yeah, I just didn't know I mean if you can't figure out by the voice But I don't sound I don't look like I sound is what everybody tells me I got more a little more grisly and but yeah, you're grizzly and cute. Then people think like my like when they meet me there, I was like, oh, I thought you were like a total like tweaker party

boy. Like stick, you know, real skinny, you know, and I'm like, I guess I just got the Midwest first of all, I'm not from the Midwest. Why are you clinging it? I like what are you talking about? Maybe I got my geography makes that. I'm from Texas. Okay, Why are you clinging up? I like what are you talking about? Maybe I got my geography mix. I'm from Texas.

Okay, that's it. That's Midwest, right? No, man. You got to leave San Francisco more often. That's true. You know what Texas is Texas. I mean, I hate to be like Texans are way too proud for that state, but Texas really is Texas.

It's not the South. It's not the West. It's not the Midwest. It's just Texas. Okay, that's it. Right. Texas Right. So you're from Texas and then you did you as your family still there? My family is still there. And then you close to their family. I am off and on. How do they feel about like when you came out as giving gay? Well, you know, I didn't really come out to my parents. I haven't really come out to my parents. It's just interesting because my mom is on the show. I mean, they've got to know. I think I didn't. My mom's on the show every Wednesday. But my brother asked me, it's been

got 10 years ago. And he's super budge. He rode bulls in the rodeo for years. And total cowboy, S kicker, you know. And he invited me to his house the night before Thanksgiving and he got completely wasted on crown. And we were drinking and drinking and drinking and finally he looked at his wife and he's like, I'm just gonna ask him, I'm gonna ask him and she's like,

the car eyes bolted out and she's like, no, and I knew immediately when he was gonna ask me now. And he's like, are you queer? And I was like, I mean, I really wish if there were a Jesus at that point, it would, you know, he would, it's pretty funny. You could tell him that really just, it would have come down and lifted me

into this guy. It was horrifying, but You know what he was cool about it at that moment. He was like you brought brother not love you no matter what You know he was in he was just like I just don't get it cuz I love pussy And he said it like five times like I get it. Are you trying to convince me? Are you trying to convince yourself? Exactly, exactly.

They're like, I just don't get it. I just don't get it. And I'm like, but he was cool about it, but then never again have we talked about it. Right, that's what people are. Where are you brought up? You brought up religious or not religious? You know, my mom is one of 11.

And all of her brothers and sisters are uber religious like their Catholic. Of course we don't have that many kids. We're going to be Catholic. And they're so religious, but all the other Anson uncles like totally go to church and on the word I my mom, my dad wasn't my mom married outside the faith, which caused huge scandal. Right. So he does.

They wouldn't even like speak to my dad for like months. And he was married before. Oh, that is amazing story. That is a great story that I have to tell. Okay. So I was, this is probably like five, six, seven years ago. A friend of mine, and I were going to go to Port of Iardam. We're leaving out a DFW that's in Dallas.

Just that's for minutes. Yeah, there you go. And we have to help him along some time. Yeah, so my friend, she takes a shower first. We stayed at my parents' house. I lived in Dallas, but we stayed at my parents' house because it's a lot closer to the airport and my dad was gonna take us to the airport.

So she takes a shower, she gets ready, she goes in, she's older than me, she goes in the kitchen is having coffee with my father and they strike up a conversation. And it turns out that she grew up in the same town where my husband, my father lived with his first wife. Oh. And so they strike up a conversation

and then as soon as we leave, like get out of, you'll get dropped off. As soon as we get out of the car, oh my God Greg, I have to tell you something. I'm like, what? She's like, your, do you know that your dad was married? I was like, yeah, he's mentioned it. You know, I was a kid, but he's never really talked about it.

She's like, your father's ex-wife is a lesbian. And I'm like, what? And she was like, oh my god, your dad's ex wife is a lesbian. She was my softball coach in high school. And we started talking about that. And your father, who's never opened up to me, of course, never opened up to anybody told her that in one conversation, he barely knows her that this other lesbian comes over to the house one day and says that's not your wife that's my wife she had a baseball bat with her because they were on the same softball team and said and my dad was like I'm out like you know I'm not gonna find it and your dad so did you met your dad that you know what I'm not what I'm not gonna say I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. You know? I don't know, but you know what?

I got my friend, I went to my friend's house and we got her yearbook to look up, you know, the softball. I was trying to see, and the woman looks like a total lesbian, but that was years after my dad was married to her. But my dad doesn't talk about his first marriage. Right.

Other than, I remember being a kid and it got brought up, you know how you're a kid, you hear things you're like, you're married before, married before you know whatever and I asked why they didn't say Married and he hears the exact answer was She you know, I wanted to have kids and she didn't What's your situation like here in San Francisco like okay, so here's a deal so sex with Emily I've been doing the show for like five years And we've had a lot of people talk about all different kinds of sex, but not lately like a lot of like gay

Sex sex issues, what's going on in San Francisco? I know and it's just like because I feel like a lot of the topics Be cover till they were like not we do talk about it. We really we get emails But specifically I just feel like we all have the Sklaas same issues, you know, it's different. We do, but we do, but we're different. There, well, it's just so different the way that men are sexual beings. And I always say, people like to say, well, gay men are so promiscuous and gay men are forced to blah, blah, blah, blah. It's that that is not true. What's true is men are promiscuous. Right. What happens is Some blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah different because there's not that like like let's get married and have to right because you know and I've talked to a friend of mine and she's so open and so like out there but sex means so much

right that's a lot of women are like that she has sex with the guy she's not necessarily in love but crushed if then he doesn't want to continue to have sex she's okay with having an FB. That's fine with her, but if she is enjoying it and stuff and then he says, I don't wanna have it anymore, it's like for right. They go crazy, yeah.

And the other thing she can't do, which I don't understand, other than safety wise, I can understand it, but she can't have sex with someone who's having sex with someone else. Yeah, a lot of women and men are like that because I think a lot of that has to do with ego. I literally can't, and it's not in a bad, just like our minds can't process that the

person that we're with, like we all want to believe that we're special and that we're the one. And to think that this person who just had sexual relations with me and had their penis inside me or wherever happened. Is now gonna be with someone else, is like, I, people don't have the, they literally don't have the skills to handle that kind of emotion and that kind of anxiety

and stress around, and jealousy. I think if I didn't have FB. I think you learned to be, yeah. Oh, I've actually had FBs in the past that have been in relationships. And I really liked it because, it's no fuss, no fuss must come in, do it. Let's not talk a lot and get out.

I enjoy that because then I can go back to watching the golden years. You know, I don't really have time to have, you know, this whole like, what are you doing for London? In fact, when I had FBs, it became a burden made with just a case people are getting it.

It would be like, and then they'd be like, well, hey, maybe we could go to lunch sometime. No. Like, we are not lunch was not in our contract. I have a plan. We're not right. Exactly. You just want the FB. Yeah, that's, I think that women typically more than men, but not that men don't, but they kind

of romanticize it. One of, well, we're having sex. It means something I want a relationship, and it's harder just to have that. So what do you have now? But now you're, yeah, kind of romanticize it. Well, we're having sex. It means something I want a relationship, and it's harder just to have that be. So what do you have now? But now you're in a relationship. I have a boyfriend of two years. Absolutely.

We are. We are. He's younger than me. How much younger? Nine years. He's 28. Oh, damn, I just gave my age. That's okay.

Come on, don't add. Don't add. He's 28. I think with the younger generation, they definitely, it's like the monogamy things is very, very important to him. Really, it's younger, more important. Yeah.

I mean, if they're interesting, yeah, because they're into it. That's my problem, okay, yeah. Older gay men are more like, they've done it, you know, you've done it. Right, it's very instant, so you know that it's his first real long've done it. Right. It's very instant. So you know that it's his first real long-term relationship. Yeah.

You're the first one. So I think in that way, you always think I work because I've been the first relationship for a couple of guys and the interesting men who are formally identified as straight. Men that weren't out. Okay. Yeah. But I don't think like, I mean, they didn't socially identify the straight women. They always meet their women. Yeah, well, actually my current boyfriend now,

he came out a while ago, like several years. He even came out to his parents, you know, and stuff when he was in college. But he just never had, I don't think he ever felt comfortable enough to have a relationship. Okay. In fact, I scared him because he was so, enough to have a relationship. Okay.

In fact, I scared him because he was so, I'm so just out there and whatever. Right, I really like this is what I, right. When we first started dating and I would go to hold this hand in public, he would stiffen up and free out and kissing him and probably he'd like, you know, and it's like, we're in the cast room. Right, we're in the gay the Castro We're in the gay area Right, oh my god, I work out the Castro gym. Do you work out of the Castro gym? I have to go out gym. Yeah, I don't only because I do work out at golds gym Me too, but not at that one because it's so small right and I don't know if it still does

But sometimes it smells like man musty It's man, it's all men like only woman and you never go south the market I do go south the market sometimes. I look pretty there. I do yeah I heard there's nothing going on in the girls locker room No, but what's going on in the men's locker room for real is there really really Is it really because let me tell you about this gym because gold's Jim is like a serious Jim and it's there's two of them and they're mostly gay I'd say the gay I feel like the gay Jim in the Castro I often say is the gayest place on earth yeah, but I'm in the Castro and it's the gay Jim

Yeah, but I think you're wrong because I think there are more straight women who go to that gym than there are that go to the South of the market It's not the market is more. Oh, they're like a big fear I would just have the market for a year and then I realized that one was closer. It took me a year to figure out that There was whatever I'm slow. You didn't know where you live really slow But I feel like all the men are just always so like I mean they're buff, but there was like just you know like friendly and Touchy and we're having each other's ass and so I'm wondering what happens in the locker room. Like the whole cliche of what you hear about the locker room. Nothing happens in the locker room part of there's the locker room you walk in and there's the locker room.

And then there is a shower and then in the back of the shower there's a steam room and a sauna. Yeah, a steam room and a sauna. Two different things, right? So there's all that going on. I've taken a shower at that gym and there doesn't seem to be a lot going on in the shower, but in the steam room and the sauna from what I am told by my friends, and I have this one friend who is like,

a whorny is all get out. He's constantly having sex everywhere he goes. I mean, he's a good-looking guy. He has sex everywhere. I mean, he's one of those guys that you he could be Uh one of those after dark HBO show you know like he has a coffee shop in the coffee shop it down below the You're like this never happens to me There are certain you know my friend has a theory that there's three kinds of men and I'm not gonna remember But one of them is the guy I'm not gonna remember the right terms

But one of them is the guy that just you can't understand it He just gets everywhere he goes he gets laid like special powers No, no, it's like like he's maybe good looking but it doesn't matter like not more good looking than their friend It doesn't ever get laid But there's something about these people they got these powers men women straight gay would I mean it doesn't matter They just men. Yeah, and he doesn't have to hook up like online or on you know, whatever he just plain and simple can walk into somewhere. And I am telling you within 15 minutes, he's in the back of an SUV getting his penis. Yes.

Yeah, but I I've talked to my my gay friends and they said there's like just a I go when you're in the club and you want to hook up with somebody like how do you do it? Do you even like talk because once I get to the club I swear to God my gay friends are gone within five minutes already and they say it's just a look. You just look at each other. Yeah, that's why not. And then you take off. The club is different because you know, well get back to the gym.

I from what I understand there is sex and masturbation. Yeah, that's why I'm not. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off.

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And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. And then you take off. have this weird thing that in the locker room, they must walk around without a tell for what appears to be hours. Like I mean, like I can go in there, change my clothes, work out, come back and they're still finding things to do, clip their tone in, grease their legs. And it's guys with big slongs connected to pretty faces. I guess they're used to getting attention for it all Right, so they put their talent right? Yeah, God. This is my one thing God gave me and I by God and showing it to the world Right, right, right for long for hours, right? Yeah, it's so nice. Listen, I can big it is. Right. Are you impressed by size?

I'm I'm I'm not a size queen. I'm not a size queen, but I like bigger. I just do for sex for looks for sex, I think. I like just the feeling. I like I just do doesn't that to be huge and not like a totally a massive, but like I have been in the past with some that are just really not as big and not as you know, I'm one in particular. If I might go back, wasn't this really good? Was small, but I know that this person is like married with two kids and really happy.

So like I know like for me, it wasn't right, but it doesn't mean that it wasn't right for someone else. For me, the penis was like, are you, are you in? You know, my friend was was having sex with a guy, and she was like, I didn't know if he was in. I said, is that your finger? Never ask, is that your finger? And your wasn't his finger?

Yeah, you should probably ask that. I was with a guy once. She stood out. That I, he's like, not my finger, bitch. Yeah. That said, I was with a guy once that it was so small. Like, I'm not a size queen at all. Right. Fine, I mean, anything from normal, small to normal large,

it's great. In fact, I would rather have more on the medium to smaller side than like a huge penis if I'm going to bottom. But sometimes actually, if the smaller it is, like if it's an abnormally small, it hurts worse because it's like a little shutting in there. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah, so it's like a little shutting in there. Oh, wow. Really?

Yeah, so it's like. You said if you're going to bottom, so do you bottom and top both? Yeah, both. What's it called? There's turns for that, right? What versatile. If you do both, you're versatile.

Someone just told me some gay friend right just that San Francisco is a town of bottoms. It is. Well, almost every town's a town of both. Really? It's hard to find a top. I mean, listen, when you find a good top in a town, you stick to them. You can't find a top. You just explain this to me. This is what it is. How do you know right away? You don't. I

mean, you don't. I mean, some guys you can look at and be like bottom like out. Right, right. Do you do bottom bottom top bottom top bottom bottom. It's like a game you play. Right. You just give through the Castro. I love it. Can I tell my liver near there? Absolutely. Okay, good. So fun. Okay, that's so fun.

But you know, I'll tell you what's changed the game. And I know Minnes asked me a question about this the other day. And what's changed the game of hooking up is Grinder. Right. Grinder the new app for. I don't love it, but my, I just, I love. He secretly loves Grindr.

I love the gay technology of Grindr. It's for people that don't know. It's an app that's on your phone that uses your location and everybody else that has the app has theirs turned on also. So when you turn on the app, you see all the other people that are- And how far away they are from you. Oh, yeah.

Have you used it to hook up? Well, you've been in a relationship. Yeah, I have, but listen, I have a friend who is obsessed with it. Obsessed to the point of we went to Kwai as a group of people. He was so obsessed with his phone eventually broke. I think because he was using grinders

I'm like we're in Kauai. There's nothing but chickens here and fish. You're not gonna find another gig. I get off of there He was so obsessed with it. He drove us insane. Oh my God. He needs to be checked into rehab. Right, but what he is told me about it my boyfriend actually downloaded it He's told me about it. My boyfriend actually downloaded it a while back because we have a friend, a straight girlfriend who's obsessed with the concept and she had to know all about it. So he downloaded and they looked at it

and you literally can tell like, okay, someone is 10 feet away. And he will suck my cock or I will suck his cock. Well, no, what happens is, you see, it depends on what it says, it's the pro-part, you click their you click their photograph and then you can instantly start chatting with them. It's crazy.

Wow. Wow. You're nice to me. You sure say you know more about it than I do. He knows. So I have a lot of day friends. He brings it up all the time. They have then there's boy a hoi, which is another one that just works. I have not even had.

I don't like that name. I got how he knows boy a hoi and I got you know the obscure Grindr, but do you know what's funny? It'll never work for straight people because We don't get on it. It would just be straight man I feel like men going out here. I see you Would you would you would I do that? Grounded grinder not on grinder I already have men pick.

I told her saying there's men picking me up. I have men pick. I don't know. I don't need to be like, I'm available single chick come talk to me 10 feet away. Like I'd rather not do ever just want to have sex. Yes. And just like all the time I got to want to have sex right now. Let me get on my phone and find a guy.

But I have guys in my arsenal that I could call to have sex Even at noon Yeah, I think so I mean you you've got like around you You got around the clock clock. I do around the clock and around the country This is what sucks for straight men because straight men doesn't don't have anything like yeah, they do I have it with these men and they have it with no Because I got you just have to be cute. No, I have to buy you fucking lunch. No, you don't. Don't. But you just gotta have. I prefer them not to buy me anything. I just. I have another

. I have another friend. You shouldn't say that on the end. Leave that out. Leave that. Leave. Leave. I have a friend who has an ex and he every time he texts it's always like he's in the food service industry So he'll get out at 1130 midnight and we'll be hanging out, you know on a Friday night and she'll get a text and it's like What's up? What are you doing? Can I come over right? Yeah, and then it's like I mean her hair's on fire. She gets out of my house So fast, you know that's what I do. That's what we do. We hook up late and I mean, her hair's on fire. She gets out of my house so fast. That's what I do. That's what we do. We hook up late and I, yeah, you just like, hey, hey, what are you doing?

Menace does it every night. He doesn't even go home. Well, that's funny to me because, because management looks, no, no, not about minutes. Oh, sorry. I like when it's even imagined having sex after 8 p.m. I can't even imagine. Oh, you're not, because I get up at 4.30. You get a 4.30 for.m. I can't even imagine that. Oh, you're not.

Because I get up at 4.30. Oh, you get a 4.30 for your show. I got it. And I really want my boyfriend. I have tried to talk to him over the last two years. Listen, once in a while, you have to find a way to get out of work. Because I'm horny at like two or three or four.

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Enjoy the show, I promise your sex life will improve. Thank you, and deacon. What kind of porn do you have, does anything? No, I really like to see, I really like amateur porn. Right. And I know that amateur porn isn't really amateur porn. Right, but it's more amateur than that. Then I don't want I know that amateur porn isn't really amateur porn right but it's more amateur than the then I don't want super glossy produced you know whatever I wanted a little bit more and I

want to see guys who are enjoying themselves and you can tell and I have a lot of have you ever watched gay porn yeah because I get a lot of lesbians who want to watch my porn like they come over and rent you know the gay porn right out of your collection. Yeah, I have a lot of friends who get turned on by gay porn. Would you? Yeah, I have seen some gay porn that that turned me on. Yeah, this is right. Did the girls turn you on? Yeah, girls turn me on more than girls going like this. Turn you on. Oh, no, that's annoying. And they're not. Yeah, that's so weird. The fingernails. Well, it's so weird. Like, it's not me. Like, that doesn't turn me on. But I think two women

getting it on is hot. But real women, not like real amateur, amateur women, then the amateur porn women, what? What do, what do men straight men watch in a straight porn? Because you don't look at the guy do you? No, I don't want to see they don't want to see another penis. Men men straight men like to not like to limit the amount of other penises around in their vicinity. Well, I like it. So when you've logged off of Grindr,

you right exactly. And you've logged off of Grindr, you write exactly. And you've logged off to chip the whole way. Absolutely. Right, right, right. What turns you on in the porn side? No, I like Amateur porn too. I don't like to produce stuff at all. And then there's like the-

Look, he's standing up. I know he's just like moving and going out. I like it. I like it. And then it's also like with the guys, it's,'s yeah again. It's like the penis is really cut out It's like they have the it's cut out. No, no, but it's really the camera views is like it's actually you right, you know You know talking about it's George Carlin you say rest in peace in any dye

He said that he had like a one dick theory or something and he said he only like men only want to see one penis in the room like one Dic no other pieces no three so I'm like they even that like they even do a thing where they're picturing that it's their penis going in What about double penetration? That's a great question that just came up someone just yeah, I don't I had to show my friend that, because she didn't believe it was true. It's true. It was on a website that I look at SeanCody.com

is a fairly produced site, but I like the guys on there. How do you say it says, slow down? SeanCody.com. SCAN. SCAN, CODY. Codey, okay, got it. I'm gonna go now.

It's like all pretty boy sex, which I like. Right. You know, I'm into fit pretty boys. Right. Which is why you like our gym and the same room. Exactly, sex, which I like. I'm into fit, pretty boys. And I'm also like, I'm a gym and the same room. Exactly, yeah, the same room. No, I've never been a steam room. I know, I'm sorry, I said it now.

Like, I like, you know, I like smooth. My boyfriend is Asian, but he's not like, you know, fresh off the boat Asian. If you want to picture him, he's very athletic. He was two time jump rope champion. Really? World jump rope champion. Oh my God, that's jump rope. World jump two-time jump rope champion. Really? World-of-jump rope champion. Oh my God. He's a jump rope.

He's a jump rope. He's a jump rope. Can you believe that? Yeah, he's a... He's a Japanese and he's from Alaska. Okay. He's very unique. Yeah.

We should have him in there, but he claims that... He should, does he get nervous? He does. He doesn't like to... I bet him. Yeah, I mean, he's fine with me doing it all, but you know the thing, the only... He's only been pissed at me a few times and we called him on I was there after yeah, we called him on our after show that we do after our show

Which is on 997 out of come and you can find You tell me how we find you people watch their hilarious like like your show is renowned and I think everyone should listen to your show Tell us how to get there. Yeah, it's either here in the Bay Area. It's moved, it's 997 now. 99.7. 997 now.com. And then there's all the podcaster up there. And then we do a show after the show,

which is a little launch here. It's not as in depth probably as this, but it gets there. But we call. We call. Well, some of us can't get that. Right. No, but we called deep we call Well, some of us can't get that No, but he we called him and asked about could I have sex because if you know just in Timberlake We're in front of me. Can I have he just that things that's just respectful for me to be asking about Having sex with other men and he got really mad. I was like wow

You're gonna do what you want to do anyway Doesn't Timberl, what are the chances? I mean, listen, if Justin Timberlake wanted to have sex with me, I'm sorry. My boyfriend would just have to get over it. Right. And that would just be that bad, you know? But that makes him mad. He thinks it's disrespectful.

But I think to him, like, if Hugh Jackman, he loves, if you Jackman wanted to have sex with him, I would have to say, You have to say like hmm you got it away Right I agree right he's gay right nobody acts awfully gay Do you believe that most men in this town? I feel like everyone's gay and less proven straight. I don't I Feel like there's a lot I swear to you that are you from here? Are you from the very long time but I'm not from him from Michigan? Yeah, so when I moved here I really I swear to God, and I just had a conversation with someone at the LGBT center that's the lesbian gay.

It was ill. Can you try to say that? Can you try to say that? Can you try to say that? Center here, because I'm thinking about doing some work with them. She said that a lot of men who move here have the same thought. The thought I had was I was going to give here. And there's like unicorns,

hopping up and glitter falling in the sky. And, you know, it's not like that really. And San Francisco's gay community is not like the pretty boy gay community. It's not clean. There's a lot of sub sections, the leather, the stinky stinky ones, you know the ones that like that odor which I Always get next to me on the stair I Never heard of there's just men that don't wear a deodorant

I guess and they don't wear deodorant and they funk a fight like I cannot wear Deodorant and I don't funk a fight I don't Like I don't think I don't think I'm like I'm like I'm on the ceremony and I'm like putting my yeah, it's bad It's definitely a fetish for God I didn't know that was a fetish absolutely and it's really really prevalent here

But can they not do the fetish of the gym? I agree. Do it in your bedroom. Yeah, exactly. There's a bar here. Have you been to 440? Otherwise known as daddies used to be daddies. Yeah, I remember daddies This pretty smelly people in there really it's kind of like the smelly bar Pretty wrong. I know I get you know I get I used to get a I don't know I must be Known to have a boyfriend because I used to get hit on and I do not ever get hit on But not everybody knows who I am. I mean, can't tell by looking. Right. It's I don't know. I feel like that too sometimes. And then you get asked out and it feels

really good because you go and like kind of yeah. My boyfriend should be very happy right now. I never get hit on. You never get hit on ever, ever, ever. Okay. Well, thank you so much for being on the show. You're awesome. Wow. We that. Wow. What are we? Are you doing a couple of moments? Okay, good. Let's go. Okay, why does this usually yelling at me? No, no, no.

Are you ready to wrap it up? No, I think it's good. We've been trying to get you in here for a while, so. Okay, I'm excited. I can tell you where I'm going. Maybe you actually, one thing I did want to say, because I want to describe to people out there a little bit. So, I walk in and Emily is wearing these pants,

and I have to tell you, I'm gonna describe them to you. Do you remember Olivia Newton-John in Greece? Yeah. These are the pants and I just saw the Australia episodes of Oprah, are you a fan of Oprah? No, I mean, yes, I am, but I don't. I just, well, Olivia Newton-John was on there and she brought out the pants that she wore.

And they were these. They're just like that that she wore in Greece. You bet a shape on that. Yeah, exactly. Because I need a man, I need a man. Really these look like you like them. I love them. I love them.

I love them too. They're amazing. They're very American apparel. No, they're not. Yeah, are they? I don't go into American apparel. I thought American apparel was all like sweatshirts. No, they've like, it's very 80s. Yeah, is it? Are you in Paris? No, I mean, I'm in Paris. was all like sweatshirts Yeah, is it

No, I mean I'm a hipster No, that's such a good question No, he's not hipster. What am I meant is what am I I'm a little bit of everything I'm a little hipster I'm a little bit of a ring is sort of like very trendy But it's trendy to be right now just like a hippie I think. I do like a lot of hard for hippie. Like a trendy hippie. No. And you like, you've got the Michelle Obama arms,

like hot, you know, buff cut. Thank you. Looking good. Wow, I don't know what I am. I'm so confusing. It's like, I mean, I do like, I like nice things, but I am kind of funky. It's the way I dress is kind of wear whatever.

And I'm I like what you have on, but you're very, the bottom half of you is very grease, not the top half, but even the boots, I mean, you're living in John right now. I'm so, oh my God, that's like heaven. I wish that I love living in John. I remember one of the first songs I remember. Is that what you're gonna say?

That's one of the first songs I really remember I remember being a kid It's so funny that you know some some like escape in exhibit no homosexual Do and you know I was I always wanted to be a cheerleader, but I didn't want to be like a boy trailer because I didn't But get pom-poms, yeah, so I wanted Of course I wanted that and being a farmer without the host And I want to be lifted up, you know, I want to be treated like a lady so But I loved that like that Elton John like my mom and dad listened to country music so I rarely got to hear

Music you know once in a while you would hear it and your friend's parents would be listening to something and I, I, this song, I guess that's why they call it the Blues by Elton John. I fell in love with that song and my mom took me to the record store and the only records I bought that were not LaRetta Lynn, Donald Parton, and Crystal Gale, where Karma Camillean by the culture club and I guess that's why they call it the Blues by Elton John.

Why my mother still is having even questions about my Mom, do you clear this up when I was eight? But it is super funny. I got and then I guess we'll wrap it up. No, we're good. We're good. I got I Tricked my grandmother. I was staying for the summer at her house and when I was In elementary school, I wanted pom-poms so bad. I mean, it's like they dream of my life, so I wanted to. I mean, I did too. I was supposed to.

Yeah, but I get you. You didn't get on. No, but you had to. You were totally acceptable for you. I know, I didn't get on. You're right. I'm just thinking I know that feeling so I can imagine for you, like you really could. Yeah, but you know what's banned.

You know the king. Right. But you know you can't. Like, that's, I'm going to cry. Yeah, my parents are really country, really conservative, really Catholic, well my dad's not Catholic, but all the other things he married to Liz, man for God's sake. Right.

So I tricked my grandmother and told her that there was this girl named Kimberly back home and it was gonna be her birthday on the day that I got back. So I needed to go shopping for her birthday immediately, like while I was there and get pom-poms. And that's what she wanted. And so my grandmother took me, and I was there for like two or three weeks.

So I got the pom-poms when we were at the store. And I remember, my grandparents would fall asleep in the middle of the day, like all people do, watching as the world turns. And as soon as they would fall asleep in their chair, I would go to the room, get the pom-poms, go back behind in the backyard, behind the barn, and do cheer.

Oh my God, that's so cute. Did you pick up like, give me an A? Oh yeah, well, no, it was very like, because I like certain sports teams then, and certain colleges, and so which I still do, certain colleges, certain pro teams. So I pretended I was cheer leaders for those teams. Of course, sure. And I imagined in my head, like I still do, certain colleges, certain pro teams. So I pretended I was cheerleaders for those teams. Of course, sure.

And I imagined in my head, like the team was making a touchdown and then I was doing the chia, proper chia. Potential. Potential, I never got caught. I never got caught. At anything I did, I, you know, I told my therapist, it's bad because I'm a good, I'm good at hiding things.

I'm good at getting away with stuff. But one time I nearly got caught with the Gay Pornom magazine at my house. Oh, yeah. When I was like, oh God, I was 15 or 16. And I remember there were, remember new stands that I pointed back up. You don't have them anymore because we can get our porn

and regular news elsewhere. But there was this one on the way home from my high school, and I went in there one day, was terrified, and you had to go in the back for the porn as well. So I go into the back, and like there's another man back there, so I start looking at the strike magazine,

you know, like, with the boobs, and all that stuff. And then he leaves, I'm, oh, I don't know where to get in the game, I'm looking at the game magazine. And then he leaves, I'm, oh, I don't know where to get in the game, magazine. And then I wise up and I put the game magazine inside of a straight magazine. So if anybody walked in, they would think I was looking at that. Finally, after doing that, like three or four times over

like a month or whatever, I got up the courage to just, I said, just gonna take this game magazine up to the counter. I'm not gonna look at him. I wasn't even old enough to buy it. I just put it up there. I didn't look at him He's like three dollars. I gave him the money. I ran out. Oh my god. So like exhilarating Was it her first sexual explicit material? Yeah, yeah, first of I'd seen like guy guy It turned me on it's just like but it was so scary to buy

That first experience. Do you ever have to go through that minus buy? Get porn. Get porn. Get porn. No, just like that with condoms. Right, right, right, right. Why were we so afraid of condoms?

Because we're like, oh my god, they know we're having sex. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Like today, it's like, you know, and people should applaud you for buying condoms. Yeah. You should applaud yourself for buying condoms. Exactly. Everyone should buy condoms. And now, and I straight women, this, this frustrates me so much. Straight women don't protect themselves. I've so many straight women, friends, who are like, did you wear a condom

with a guy? No, well, I'm on the pill. You don't know him. He can have you know, exactly. You have to. And. You don't know him. He can have anything. You don't know exactly. You have to. You're not doing it. And if you don't want to buy them, if you don't want to spend the money, straight people, then go to your local gay bar. They hand them out for, there are buckets of them.

There are buckets at the front. It's true. Yes. When you check in and hand in your underwear, you can pick up a rug. But anyway, so I take the magazine home and I hide it and I look at it, I masturbate to it like so many times. So one day we had a swimming pool and one day I take it out into a living room.

My parents weren't home and I'm looking at the magazine and you know, getting all horny and I decide to go out and masturbate in the pool. I mean, who am I? Joe Collins? I mean, I don't know what's going the pool. I mean, who am I? Joe Collins? I mean, I don't know what's going on yet. I'm like Blanche Devore. I'm like exactly. Exactly.

So I go out thinking I'm Linda Evans and I'm like masturbating in the pool or whatever. And I just finish up and just whatever. And I'm walking back in the back door. And I hear my father walking in the front door. I looked down, I had left the Gay Porn magazine on the middle of the living room. Oh my God.

Open to the spray. No. No. I guess I got so horny like. Yeah. You're like, I'm just going to the pool to go off there. I'll go back and get that magazine. So what happened?

Well, he was luckily walking through the kitchen and I see it and grab it and, you know, rush into my room and hide it, but that's the closest I had ever gotten to getting hot. Oh, God, that age that would have been you weren't ready yet, right? It's talking to me. I'm not ready now.

We're still not ready now, exactly. Oh my God. How long did you have that one magazine? You know what I would do, Ministers? I would have the magazines for a while. And then I would freak out and be like, oh my God, my parents are gonna find it. I gotta get rid of it.

You know, oh my God, the pages are stuck together. Whatever. You know, you get tired of the same one. Right, right. Mostly like, I'm so scared that they're gonna find it so I would get rid of it. I'd take it somewhere and throw it at it. Right.

And then a couple months later, I'd be like, oh, Jonesing Jonesing. Right, right, right, right, I used to get a new one. I got to get a new one. Yeah, I remember, I drove to Dallas. I called when I was like 18, 17 or 18, I think 18, I looked in the phone book

and I called this gay and lesbian, whatever. I didn't know what I was doing and I was like, where do gay people hang out? Like I asked, you know, what do gay people hang out? That's correct. But I didn't want to know. Like they're like, oh, there's youth groups, I'm blah, blah, blah.

I didn't want to know that. I wanted to know where I can get a gay video. I wanted to see some hot, man-a-man attitude. Right, right, so what'd you do? So I drove over to the gay part of town and I found a video store. And I was like finding goldmine. Right, like, mega. Exactly. so did you buy a bunch of videos well I wanted to rent

these videos right so I go through and I pick them all out and you have to that back then they would put the covers and sleep like the plastic sleeves you know yeah and then you have to take the covers up there and then they have right so I did all that and they're like okay we're gonna need a major credit card or a member like blockbuster or these they used to like you'd have to have your life Yeah, because they cost so much back then now they didn't cost anything and they're like or you have to write a check for a deposit I did not have either one. I had a checkbook. I so I was so wanting the porn that I drove I so I was so wanting the porn that I drove 50 minutes back to where I lived in Fort Worth all the way back from Dallas to Fort Worth to my house got my checkbook Drove all the way back to rent that porn to write that check

Thank God you moved to San Francisco It took an hour to find Gabe porn because San Francisco you instead of Francisco, you can't drive five minutes without fighting Gabe Puerre, right? What do you think about in the Castro, the gay neighborhood? What do you think about walking down the street and some of the places just having like dildos and the windows? I think it's fine. I think it's okay.

I think it's, I have no problem with me. I said, if you had children. No, I don't. I mean, no, if you had to, I didn't. If I had children, I just think it's part of life, part of the the culture that we live in I mean I you wouldn't take them to the cast I'm not I don't know. I don't know. Where would you take them in the where would you take them in I mean I guess there's no But some families live in the cast are new the theater. I love the theater I mean, what is it? I know but they're like oh, like what mommy? What is that, you know, spaceship looking thing?

Like, what do you know? You're like, oh, it's the top one. What's the top cookie thing where there's a giant? I know, or like the sausage factor and I would know. But I don't know. I don't have a problem with it because I think that sex, toys, and sex, perfinal, you really help and enhance people's relationships.

But what do you do about young kids? Like, what do you do at anything? Like, they're on the internet and they're getting... I see a poor no one out of six years old how you never forgets this yeah about again because I think it's fucked you up somehow it has no it's so weird because you see it where'd you find it okay what happened was I I've told the story many times before but I was learning to ride a bike and I broke the train wheels or it's now not makes sense yeah I broke the training I broke the train wheels on the bike

because the train wheels were plastic wheels, right? So I was out on the front trying to ride this bike forever. And then finally, I rode it without the train wheels. I kept on going. I didn't know how to stop. And I ran right into a fence. And I was so excited. I ran to the front door of my house

and the screen door was there and my dad was watching on point. Of course he was. He didn't hear me, he didn't hear me get to the door, so I immediately stopped. And I stood there and watched. And I watched, but for some reason, you're a Willie Allen. No, but for some reason, at six years old, I knew what it was. Well, I think it's going on. Yeah. But I'd never seen anything sexual right before that maybe my mom's Your mom's vibrator. Yeah, I think traumatized me more than right that would try to my brother My my parents had remember those old Tommy vibrators that not plug into the wall that's you magic one

Yeah, well, no, this was like the thing for your bad. This was like a real vibrator. Like for your back, you held it like this. Yes, yes. Somehow my brother figured out that if he put it on his penis, it was like, yeah, vibration feels good. So he, I one day came home from school probably, he was probably like in ninth grade and I was in seventh and I catch him in my parents room

and he's like starts freaking out of yelling at me and I wasn't quite sure why, you know, like, get out of here, what are you doing, and he had the vibrate, and I was like, oh, it's vibrate, whatever. Right. And then I figured it out, like, oh, he was, you know, what he was doing.

So then of course, that gives you the idea. Right. And I started, it was amazing. Yeah, men, some men love the vibration. That's the penis play. That's why I always talk about rings that like the the You know rings for people to use them. I don't like them. You don't like them to Complicate it and a lot of times the the rings they're for guys who can't keep it up

Right and I'm sorry I do yeah, I've used those before I just don you like the vibration on your penis. I do, yeah. I've used those before. I just don't like the rings on my mouth. I know what you're saying. Okay, I would rather have like, I have like a little toy that I've stuck down there while I'm having a little pack of racket or something. Yeah, right there.

See, I like it right in the tank. Right. That feels good. Man, you should try that. We feel so nice. We don't have to insert it into anything. We need to tell menest things that we feel good. It feels really good. Here's another thing I discovered on my own as a damn nice thing. We still managed to insert it into any of that. We still managed things that we feel good. It feels really good.

Here's another thing I discovered on my own as a junior high kid is I somehow, I mean, I'm amazing like when you're a kid you can find these things out, but figured out that if I took the shower head and laid down. Oh yeah. And put it on the head of my penis,

not the right below the head of my penis, that I could come without touching my penis. You're like my guy. And that way, I'll I need is a piece of go. Ten of shower head. And I'll tell you, I think I really think it is if you can, if you can come without touching your penis, it feels ten times better.

Oh, I'm sure. It just feels amazing. Like, I don't know this Yeah, I Do it right but to make it right to make it We have to go yeah, okay, I'll come back another day because I want to talk to you at hand jobs Yeah, yeah, you have a big debate. We have a big hand-out debate. We come back. Yeah, I'm so excited I'm so happy

to meet you and thank you so much for being in this show. This is so fun. Okay, everyone. Well, that was how do we find you? Download his podcast. Yeah, 997now.com. And search for Nando and Greg on Stitcher 2. For Nando and Greg on Stitcher, we've got a lot of Stitcher listeners. Yeah, on Stitcher, you can search for Nando and Greg. The last two weeks of podcast I'll listening to, Fernando and I've been in huge fights, been like marriage. For real?

And a lot of people don't like it. Like, if you were a Howard Stern listener, I always like digged when they would fight and it was really stuff like that. We've been going through like this seven year itch kind of thing. Like, you know, like in a relationship when you wake up and you look at someone and you like, I wish that person were dead.

We've been going through that the last couple of weeks it's gotten better, but it's all kind of played out. when you wake up and you look at someone and you like I wish that person were dead. Right. We've been going through that the last couple weeks. It's gotten better, but it's all kind of played out. He was there one day and it was not even bad and he started squarming in a seed and feeling uncomfortable. What the hell is going on? You can't always be happy. No, I don't want you. Been your listeners probably want to see you all sides of you. They complained a lot and they think I'm a dick, but I am a very very.

I want to come see you be a dick on but I am a very, very, very, I wanna come see you be a dick guy, because I don't see you so far. You know what? She should come through our sideshow. I love to. Oh my God, do it.

I love it. I'll talk about anything. Whatever would be so fun. I'm just, no, I just don't want you guys to end up like some shows that I know where they are in separate rooms. You know, I don't want to end up being like that one day. Oh, that's not gonna happen.

But you know, you know what? They're gonna make it, they love each other, right? You know, yeah, we've been good friends for a long time, but you know when that happens or why that happens, is because people don't get it out. They harbor their bad feelings to the point to where it's just like, then it all blows up. I, you know, here's one thing,

I think we're both in therapy, and I think therapy, what I've learned in the last year, is therapy brings a lot of stuff to surface. You think you're gonna go to therapy and you're gonna be fine and everything's gonna be great. No, it brings it so much rage down. It breaks you down. You gotta get it all out.

So I last year was raging because I'm getting all this stuff out. I was gonna be forever forever. I think year two is when you start to maybe I was in the third or 15 years. Okay, maybe in year 14 you start to fix things. All right, we do have to go. Okay, Emily will be on the side. Okay, I can't wait.

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