Sex With Emily - SWE: Mom Porn

Episode Date: April 16, 2012

Emily’s lesbian neighbors are having loud sex and a listener suggests she use a complaint form. However, Emily has Bravo camera crews going in and out of her apartment. Her neighbors might fill out a complaint form too. There's no attractive people at the chocolate festival says an eye-witness reporter, Hong Kong isn't getting laid, and good champagne is hard to come by. Chin jobs are on the rise and to how to talk about fantasies with your partner.Emily talks to author Rachel Kramer Bussel about the BDSM novel 'Fifty Shades of Grey,' erotica, bondage, and cupcakes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, Evelyn, you got a boyfriend? Because my man E here, he just got his heart broken, he thinks you're kind of cute. The girls got a hair standard, oh my! The women know about shrinkage. Isn't it common, though? What do you mean, like, laundry? It shrinks. And we not talk about sex so much. Are you kidding me?

Oh my god. I'm off here. I'm so gone. Being bad feels pretty good. But you know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with. You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex relationships. And everything in between for more information,

go to sexfemely.com or EmilyMores.com. We'll get all your sex question answered and you'll feel like a better person and have better sex just happens that way. So thanks everyone for listening. Happy Monday. And hope everyone had a great weekend. Today's show, our guest is going to be Rachel Kramer Bustle. She's calling in. She's the co-editor of a new book, The Best Sex Writing of 2012. She's written a ton of erotica anthologies. She writes for New York magazine, all kinds of blogs. And we're going to talk about 50 Shades of Grey. Have you heard about this? 50 Shades of Grey? They call Mom porn. It's like this erotica that all the moms are reading. It's like this huge trend right now. My sister on the lawn Michigan, like everyone's talking about it.

It's all about women being dominated, like BDSM and women. Is it novels or is it videos or what is it? It's a novel, it's a book. Really? It's like a retica, like straight forward a retica, it's like women, they call it mom porn because moms are all really into it. And the women, the woman, the heroine or whatever in the book is like, she's, she's gets into, she's this young girl gets taken by her professor or something, I haven't read it yet, but and then he's been dominating, it's like a total

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It's all organic, too. And it puts you in a better mood can you tell that I'm really happy very happy don't I see happy yeah bubbly have a good weekend it was fun I had a former intern was my intern like five years ago she was 19 and now she came back to town for a conference she's married 24 what what she said the summer working for me because she lived in Michigan that came out for the summer for three months to work for me Amanda. You might have met her. You probably did five years ago. But anyway, she said it changed her life. And she said that she not just because of my internship, because a lot of the experiences

she had around it, like we had that lingerie party and she had dressed in lingerie and she met a lot of dudes and had fun and she felt like she grew into a woman that summer. Yeah, maybe she found out everything that she didn't want to do. Oh, but looking at my life. Yeah, and then now she's married. She couldn't believe I had a dog, she almost lost her mind. Yeah. She's like, I was ready to get married after that summer. That's really funny. She's like, I don't want to be like this for the rest of my life. I got to, I got to get locked down. So that's what she did. Yeah. That was fun to see. I love all my former interns. They always come by and they're all doing great things. And then I just hung out with friends and went to Target. Yeah. Tarjay. Tarjay. Which one do you go to? There's a little

difference. Just go. Well, there's a couple. I never go. I never go down south. I just did. I left the city. I did that. I hung out with friends. They were watching the baseball game, I guess. I wish I ran into a torsier that would be there. I was in that area, but I didn't go. I went to Daiso. You did? I had a freaking heart attack. What? I mentioned that. I know. That's why I went. I was like, oh, I have to go. There are men that said to go there. Yeah. Is it a chain everywhere? Yeah. There's a bunch of. Yeah. I don't know if it's national Yeah, there's a bunch of. Dice in Japan. Yeah, I don't know if it's a national, but there's a lot here local.

Oh my God, it's like all these little Japanese products and organizers, I like my lost my mind. Yes, like screamed. It's like a dollar type store. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, it's amazing. So that was fun. And then I just hung out with friends

and I always spend a lot of time with my dog walking her dog park whatever. Nothing like signing head sex. Mm-hmm. How's that? But nothing was fine. I wasn't feeling that great this weekend, so I really was like that girl who didn't feel well and didn't really want to sex.

Happens, happens to best of us, yeah, what about you, what'd you do? I, well I didn't go to Coachella music festival. I know, does that kill you every moment of the day? It does, actually, it does. It's very painful. Because you remember, I planned that out like eight months at eight months at a hotel. It's a music festival in the desert.

Yeah, and I had my tickets at VIP, everything. And then there's this opportunity at work. So it's like, oh, it's not a good time to leave. I really got to put my heart into my job right now. And so I didn't go and I wasn't really tripping about I wasn't tripping out about it until Two days before the concert and they said there was gonna be a two-pock hologram on stage right now If you don't know this my name actually my nickname menace came from a two-pock song Oh, so I'm a big fan of two-pock if you're going up in the Bay Area

You have to love two-pock right you. You have to move. Right. So if you go online and you Google two-pock hologram, it is scary. How real it looks. It looks like there's a ghost standing on stage. That's crazy. It's insane. People said that they went to the show. They had nightmares after because it looks so realistic. That's crazy that they did that. It's insane. So like he was on stage and you saw it, can you see it? Yeah, he looks like he is standing on stage and it's just projected with all this light. Oh my god.

That is so cool. And then Snoop Dogg walks on stage and they're like dancing together and like talking back and forth. It was, it's, uh, uh, it's freaking. It's an effincy trick. I would think I was losing my mind. It's, I would think I'd take in some serious halluc think I'd taken some serious hallucin genetics. Oh my god I want to imagine the people that are on drugs down there that yeah That's freaking out. How is it two weekends or so? What do people do in between people down there for two weeks?

Well, I was gonna actually take the week off I was gonna be around and I was gonna go travel around but oh well. I law the blues of Chicago. That's my favorite I'll be out there, okay, but I did do two fun things over the weekend I went to a chocolate festival that was at Pixar, animation studios, I got to go there. So I got to try a chocolate from independent vendors from all over, that was delicious. But the lunch chicks there?

Because everything chicks would like flock to chocolate festival. Yeah, there's definitely a lunch chicks there. Not your type. Not a couple, maybe my type. And then the next day, I told you, I went to the taco festival in San Jose, California. Right.

Holy S. The taco festival is out of control. They sold out thousands of people. It was sold out. They couldn't let any more people in the venue. What was just like different booths with tacos? No, it was like taco trucks all the time. They're all competing. How many tacos can you eat though?

I've won Taco, I'm done, I'm ready to go home. I had about six tacos, but they're not like giant ones. I had like Calamari taco. Did you like vote on the best taco? Yeah, yeah, it was so good. That's so fun, you love San Jose. Yeah, I had sex, that was cool. With you, the same girls last weekend are different.

Same girls last weekend, I was gonna kind of like your thing. No, I don't have a boyfriend with you the same girls last weekend are different same girls last week I was gonna like you know, I don't have a boyfriend like you You but it's just go want something more. She's She does yeah, she wants Have a little piece of you now I was a good sex. We really drunk are you sober? I was actually Was it good sex? Were you really drunk or were you sober? I was actually...

Moderately. Marley sober, I had some champagne. I'm really on a champagne kickaway. I have two, I had champagne last night. I really wanna buy a bottle of spade champagne. So if there's any listeners out there that wanna donate a bottle to me. How much is it?

It's like 300 plus. Oh, is it that good? Yeah, apparently. I watched Shaz of Sunset. I've yet to watch it. I've been wearing people. I'm sorry to even watch it. Yeah, apparently. I watched Shaz of Sunset. I've yet to watch it. I'm sorry to even watch it. Yeah, I know. It's on Bravo, which is our network.

I know. They did a champagne. Oh my God. Oh my God. You should have seen it last night. I think it was a rerun. I was watching. I was catching up on old episodes.

It's on Bravo. And I know it's like, it was totally mindless fluff. But I feel like since we are going to be on that network in a few months, we have to, I should be up on all the shows. And so one of the girls on the show, one of the women, Gigi always talks about how she only drink crystal and the best champagne and all this up. And her friends, I believe we did a taste test.

You would not know bad champagne from the good champagne. Yes. So he had five flutes of champagne at his house. He did a big thing and had everyone there do taste tests of like one was like a really bad bottle. One was like, don't be in chendon or whatever, not don't be in chendon. What is that?

Crystal and whatever the best champagne. You don't drink, I don't drink crystal no more. Why? Because Jay-Z says not to. Why is it bad? He says, he says, I don't know if they are, but he says they're racist. Oh.

So he goes, everybody drinks Bade So I'm not gonna say that. Okay, that's all you want to say. Well anyway, it was five different kinds and she couldn't tell the difference. She couldn't tell which one was the bad one. Yeah, that's the worst. The cheap one. But the rest, she couldn't tell the difference.

But she always was like, we have to get this or we have to get that. Yeah, because she has to. It's kind of a good medicine. It's good medicine. I don't like the two-bucked chocolate they sell at Trader Rose. And menist thinks that if he did a taste test with me,

I wouldn't be able to tell. We should do a taste test. Let's do it. Let men think that if he did a taste test with me, I wouldn't be able to tell. We should do a taste test. Let's do it. Let's do a taste, a blind taste test. Okay. We'll put them all in and you tell me which one. I've got a drinky game for us to play. I bought it with me.

What? We have no alcohol, but we're just gonna play if we have time. Okay, good. It's really fun. That's fun. So yeah, that's pretty much my weekend. That's fun.

Dude, what? What are you gonna be on TV already Jesus is everyone asking you yeah everyone's like oh one is it air well we're not sure it's it's misadvised bravo and bravo TV and I they don't know when it's gonna it's for sure airing and it could be July it could be September and so we're not sure yet so it's either July or September. And we should know probably in the next few weeks and we will let everybody know. Wow. So you can watch it. It's at your DVRs. And it's going to be crazy. We shot for two

and a half months. It's eight episodes. And I haven't seen any of the footage. I don't know how they're going to edit it. There's a lot of menace in there, like saying mean things to me. No, sweet heart. No, you're not. And which is where they loved menace. So I don't know what people keep asking me when it's going to air. And I think that they really don't know yet, because the network tries to figure out what other shows should be aired along with it and all that stuff

before and after. Are you excited? I wish to be after a real housewives or something. I know that'd be awesome. I've been watching it. Do you watch the Atlanta one? Yeah. I like it. It was an amazing adventure. I know, that'd be awesome. I've been watching, do you watch the Atlanta one? Yeah, I like it, it was on last night. I like Atlanta and Beverly Hills, that's all I like. I don't like any of the other ones.

And oh, Jersey a little bit, little bit. Right, well, I'm sure it's different than Real Housewives because the three women on my show don't interact, we don't really interact. Yeah, which is cool. So I don't know how they're gonna be, how it's an hour long show. They're gonna piece it together. But I'm not sure how they sure how they're probably just gonna cut from one chick to the next city's and stuff different cities

And how we're you know, we're going on I went on a bunch of blind dates with one of your friends. I Can't Stop watching mobiles though. Oh, I heard that's amazing. I love big-ange big-ange Oh, I heard that's amazing. I love big and big and That's really her name. Oh, yeah, you got to see her. She's amazing big and I'm just dying because she's she's awesome and it's a really show, right? Yeah, yeah She's hilarious and the really mob wives Yeah, can't their husbands get arrested for being pointed out as being well. They've been getting arrested lately because of the show

I don't know because of the show, but they, one of the ladies' husbands turned rat and he started ratting out everybody around him. Oh, wow. Yeah, so they also are going to. How did it sound to stay in dress the show? They also are going, yeah, I met a couple of them down at the Grammys and I was a little, a little afraid to talk to them.

Oh, because you're afraid they're going to be killed or something? No, it's just like when you talk to them, they're the real deal. They're like, this is not a front. This is, we are part of the model. Which channel is it on? VH1. Okay, I'm gonna watch it. It's on my list.

I swear. Okay, I've got a little bit of sex in the news. I just got a little celebrity stuff on the here at all, but I was watching, there was something that I read today that I thought was interesting about a celebrity couple, but I can't just like Brad and Angelina. Yeah, they got engaged. Finally, and they got the blessing of, because remember, they said they weren't gonna get engaged unless, same sex could get married. And now they're like, what's up with that? But then, you know, the alliance whoever represents the gay and lesbian, um, oh, they gave them their blessing.

They gave them a blessing. Oh, that's nice. And then, uh, did you see the photos that it got posted this morning in Hillary Clinton, partying it up? I heard right about it. I didn't see the photos. Yes, it's partying it up. She's drinking beer.

There's a picture of her drinking beer. You can tell these pictures are totally taken under cover. Right. And she's dancing. They said that she showed up to some bar in Columbia, ordered 12 beers and a bunch of shots. Stayed there for like a little over half hour and then left is balanced. That's so fun. And they showed pictures of her the next day like yawning and stuff. That's funny. That's funny. I haven't seen it but I run out of it. Well, it's like

I posted it up online so people can see the photos. And then a couple of the reactions were like, oh, are she doing this on taxpayer money? So the moment's in working our ass off from 20 years for this country. Let her have a friggin beer in Colombia. Yeah, come on. Seriously, people. Get over it.

Okay, well my sixth news we got here is experts push Hong Kong residents to have more sex. If you thought SARS and bird flu with a worse epidemic to Hong Kong think again, surveys have shown that Hong Kong has the lowest sex drive on Earth. What? They need some hot rocks. Hong Kong. And sex experts are urging the crowded populist to expand its horizon. Apparently, the career driven mentality, financial pressure, and lack of privacy due to young people's inability to move out of their parents' home until their late 30s have all contributed to the lowest fertility rates

in the world and bleak prospects for singles. Thankfully, the socially conservative city is growing more open-hosting the fifth annual sex culture festival and a large sex toy convention, which all the sex toys, a lot of them are being tried anyway. But that's just that's cool. Yeah, but you know, it's so overpopulated

over there, I don't know why people are. Well, they could have sex, they could have intercourse and not have babies, but, so I thought you'd find that interesting, I don't know, I thought I would find that interesting, that they're the lowest sex drive. Okay, so this is interesting, chins are the new boobs, you'll appreciate this. Chins implants see huge spike because of skyping.

So you know how everyone's like skyping now and doing video conferencing? Apparently everyone thinks their chins look fat. I don't know if you think your chin look fat, but I know you always think things about looking at yourself on camera. So. I just look fat in general,

I'm thinking that's what I'm like. Oh, is that it? Yeah, I'm not the chins. Okay, so chins sector. It's a whole body. So it grew 71%. What? There were more, there were more chins being done last year than boob jobs, butt jobs and

liposuction combined. They, oh, the trend is due to the growth of video conferencing technology in the workplace and the benefits of having a strong chin and business. That's very odd, but do you know who had, like, cheek implants was, when he Houston, when they did the op-top, say they listed everything and she had cheek implants. Oh.

How the hell does that happen? You just people do it a lot of women do it. But where do you get that in without people seeing scars? I don't know how they do it, but they, a lot of women do it because it makes them, it's like plastic, makes you look younger. Yeah. Because your face when you get older, it drops.

Yeah, but it looks so like hollowed out when you do the cheek implants. Did she look hollow? She looked good though before she died. Yeah, she looks like she. They find in her like cocaine and marijuana. They found a lot of stuff. She was having a good night. Sad.

She died. OK. OK. Senior sex video rubs audiences the wrong way. Trying to stop the rise in STDs among Florida's elderly population, the US organization Safer Sex for Seniors has released a video campaign featuring old men and women pretending

to bang in challenging situations. Have you seen this? No. They're in challenging sexual positions. The ad agency behind the 30-second clip defended its strategic choice of shock humor. Many who cherish the idea of pure chase dramas have said it devalues a worthy cause. So there's this video out there that's trying to promote safe sex among seniors because seniors are actually not using protection because they don't know about it and they're

good. There's all these STDs. So it's a safer sex video, but it's like old people having sex. And it's been controversial. Yeah, this doesn't seem appealing to me at all. To watch that? Yeah. Okay.

34-year-old virgin makes up for lost time creates baby-making business. What? Mm-hmm. The 42-year-old Dutchman sleeps with 15 women a month now in a bid to make their dreams of having children in reality. He began donating sperm to clinics nine years ago, then found out there was a market for natural conception and never looked back.

He boasts an 80% success rate. He currently has 45 girls and 35 boys all around Europe with 10 more on the way. And he's not making any money. He's just doing it. He's just banging chicks. He's just banging chicks and getting impregnate. That's pretty cool.

That's pretty cool. That's crazy. Yeah. He had them sign a contract, every partner sign a contract saying he doesn't pay child support, but they're saying and they might have to overturn it. That would be broke.

He'd be in jail. Oh yeah, yeah. So I thought that was, that's fast. Why can't you sign a piece of paper saying it's all good? That's wrong. That's wrong. Everything's wrong in the world. Just use protection, people.

No, he's trying to get, he's trying to get it. He's trying to get it. He's trying to get it. Yeah. But everyone else in the world, if you don't want to have to pay child's port. That's right. Okay, we've got some emails. Thanks everyone for emailing us.

Okay. Feedback at sexwithemily.com or you can just go to our website, sexcellamy.com and click on the Ask Emily or you can get in touch with me through Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, sex with Emily and you can find menace at all those places, white menace. Of course. The white menace. Not the white menace, but white menace. Dear Emily, please, please, please get Keggle Camp on the Android market. I refused to buy an iPhone, but all my girlfriends are raving and I got to see what all the awesome fusses about

from Caryland, Greencastle, Indiana. If you're an Android developer, contact me because I don't have a good Android developer. I'm actually going to take a class. Okay, make my app. It's called Kaggle Camp. It's selling like crazy. I need to take 80% of the profits. Fine. 15. And out of 50, 50. 70. I'll do 50, 50. 65. Can you really do it? It sounds that hard. I don't know.

Honestly, I don't know if it's that hard or not, but I'm going to definitely say. People have been asking me half the world is on Android, right? Or more? Yeah, it's up there with iPhone. It's crazy. So Kaggle Camp, it's... Switch iPhone, people.

I love my iPhone. I'm in bad size. You stand droid. I did not like it. How did you let me have that droid for so free and long? Because your service provider didn't offer iPhone at the time. That's what it was. That's what it was.

So, I have an app called Kaggle Camp. If you haven't heard me talk about it at Nazim, and it helps men and women do their Kaggle exercises and have better sex. And I walk you through it with my voice. It's a very easy to use the app and app, and it's very popular, and you should all buy it. Oh, do you know what else? Tell me.

We're here at the Citro Studios in San Francisco. And you can download the Citro app. It's totally free. That's STITCHER for your smartphone, Android R iPhone, or whatever the hell you have. You download it, and all you do is search sex with Emily, for your smartphone, Android or iPhone or whatever the hell you have. You download it and all you do is search Sex with Emily and you're able to listen to the show on the go.

It's pretty easy. It's really easy, so that's a great way to do it. We love Stitcher. Yeah. And what else was I going to tell you? Something that I had to do with technology and the new app. A new app. Not a new app.

Instagram for $1,000. No. Sorry, I'll come up with the later. Kiss me. Oh, no, no, I was just gonna talk about XM, also on XM radio. Oh, one, series XM, we're doing it this Friday, 420. We're gonna be on Playboy, can you do it Friday night?

Write it down. Menace and I are, okay, we're on series XM. I love doing it, but they're killing me with the Fridays. I know, I know, I know, you should already be drunk by the time we're doing it. I think we're doing it. Yeah. I think we're doing it at seven. But if you listen to serious XM, we're going to be on Playware

Radio taking callers this Friday night. I'll get back to it the exact time. But we're also on extreme talk, XM 165 from six to seven. Ah, yeah. And then, so don't forget, it's 4.22. So we got to talk about marijuana smoking. Marijuana smoking. 4.20 is a big day for that.

All right. Okay, hey, Emily, my name is Katie and I'm from the UK. Loving the show, been listening for a while now and just became a friends with benefits. Remember, I myself am very interested in this object of sex and if any of my friends have an issue with it, it's me they come to. I've been inspired by you and want to start my own show here in the UK. I'm thinking of doing it on YouTube as I don't know anything about podcasting. I'm only 23 but I don't think my young age is stahme so I was wondering if you had any voice

for me starting out on this. Love on the UK, Katie Buckingham, Box. That's where she's from. Sweet. I'm a member. Okay Katie, just do it. Just start doing it. That's what I did. I started doing this podcast seven years ago in my living room. YouTube is not a bad idea if you want to do a member. Okay, Katie, just do it. Just start doing it. That's what I did. I started doing this podcast seven years ago in my living room. YouTube's not a bad idea if you wanna do a video. Can you do video podcasts at YouTube though? I can't video podcasts,

but I mean, you can release episodes and putting the subject of sex in the video probably will get you quite a few views. And being a 23 year old female. Talking about sex should be hard. Yeah, with a low cut shirt. I'm sure you'll define. I'm sure you quite a few views. And being a 23 year old female. Talking about sex should be hard. Yeah, with a low-cut shirt, I'm sure you'll define. I'm sure you'll define, but YouTube is not podcasting. Podcasting, you can go online and look up

a lot of different ways to do it, but it's really easy to do it from your computer. Yeah, it's actually more work than doing a YouTube video though. It is? Yeah, yeah. Why? Because they're like, it's a paid dollar though. Yeah, I always did and then you get a Smedicine.

It's a pain in the ass, don't do it. Yeah, it is, it is a pain in the ass. It is a pain in the ass. A lot of things you can do. I know. But I wish you luck and I think that you should just start doing it and don't worry about your age and I'm sure it will

be age appropriate and you'll just start talking to your friends and having a fun show. If you blow up, we, we remember. Yeah, we get 10% of everything that you make but that's cool okay dear Emily saw this article about a complaint form and thought of your gay downstairs neighbors you can film you could fill one out for their loud love making unless you are enjoying it and they can fill one out for you when you forget to wear your eyes or slippers and walk around your five inch

or is it ten and chills. This listener very well in this listener knows me very well. His name is Greg. He writes all the time and Greg you're awesome because it is I can't but it's just funny that people I have a problem I wear my five and chills I get in trouble I put on my eyes when I get home now because they make no noise but the freaking lesbians below me and next door to me have very loud sucks so he he sent me this article, let your annoying neighbors know how you feel with this simple complaint form. So there's a complaint form. We're not all blessed perfect neighbors. In fact, we're not always perfect neighbors

ourselves. We're all capable of being destructive and annoying. So when that happens, we need to call each other out. So there's a form and you slip it on the door and you check off all the relevant problems and leave it at that or you can Phone the blanks from already tell Dude when we were shooting the Bravo misadvised the Bravo reality TV show that we're soon gonna be on television television and The camera crew's 15 person crew was in my house in my apartment my little tiny apartment building with the with the thin walls for two months and My neighbors were not happy. Hate it, you.

Hate. I got hate mail. I got mean letters, not hate, but just like, can you let it, can you let us know when the crew's coming back? I gave everyone brownies and sex toys and I tried to make them feel better. I don't know what to do about my neighbor too.

I got a noisy up there neighbor. I think this guy, like, I think this guy sleeps the floor or something and leaves his cell phone on the floor and it just, it like vibrates the ground. You haven't even know. I told you already punched a hole in my ceiling. Yeah.

I wouldn't do that again. What I would do is leave a note. Can you why don't you just write a note and say, listen to your name? This guy, I seen some emails, this guy wrote to the landlord. This guy seems like a real fucking dick. Like he doesn't seem like he would care about the.

Well, I care whenever I get a letter, I take off my shoe. I try to like, because I feel bad like when my dog was pooping in the neighbors yard and cleaning up at a mistake. I was drunk when I out. I still say almost one up to his house and beat the shit out of him. Yeah, that's why we better write a letter before answer. You don't beat the shit out of him. Right?

True. Uh, true. But it's not bad. I mean, it does, maybe just because I'm so I wanted one to like me and I, I feel bad that my neighbors were upset. I don't care if this guy likes me. I just wanted to shut the F up. Yeah, you got it right.

He probably doesn't know. Okay, we can call our guest. So let me just tell you a little about her. Her name is Rachel Kramer-Bossel. She's been writing about sex for a really long time. She's a co-editor of a new book, Best Sex Writing 2012 along with lots of erotica anthologies, anthologies. She writes for New York magazine, all kinds of blogs. She, um, seriously, she's been on CNN, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, uh,

sexdireesiland.com, the village voice, and she writes about cupcakes. All right. She writes about a lot of erotica, BDSM. Cupcakes. Ooh, I like that. She writes about cupcakes. Is that a nine or a four right there? Uh, nine.

Nine. Nine. Yeah. Oh, in the second one. All right. Let's try that again. I write. Yeah. So Rachel Kramer bustle.

And we're going to talk to her about how she got started. Ready, Mads X and... How do you hook up with Rachel Kramer? Twitter. Twitter. Tweet. Twitter, she tweeted me. I wanted to be in the show.

No, look at you. Look at me on all on Twitter. You know, tweet-ish. I got to do Instagram more, though. You're like, tweet-ish, like, sweet-ish, tweet-ish. Oh, dude. What? It's not working. I think there's something wrong with your Skype account. Oh. Yeah, it says they told me that it was going to

expire today. But I tried to. Okay. Is there another Skype account we use? I don't believe so. Do you want to log into my personal Skype account? Okay. Okay. The hold on. Oh my god, that's so weird. Yeah, that sucks. If they told me this today that it was expiring, and I put in my credit card, no one cares.

Okay, hold on. We'll switch real quick. You type it in. Okay, come over here. Where is this gonna be on camera? Oh, ho ho for the first time ever. No, I've been- You should be on camera.

Well, I've talked to the awesome company you work with to get one in here. Hello. Hi, everybody. I'm on camera while Emily is typing in her information to see if we can get you. The guest, I don't know how to fill time when you're not talking with me. Alright, we seem to be having it work, I believe. Now I said upgrade. Oh, what the hell did you just do? Be careful.

Okay, no, is it? Because you could stop our recording right now by accident. Here, I can look at it now. Wait, okay. Sorry, everyone. We are so professional here. All right. I can't leave my Skype count.

Did that to me. I put in my new credit card Whatever so we're talking to Richard Cramer bustle And we're gonna call it right now. That's funny. Life is funny. I Love my life. Okay, here we go. Okay And we have to have 50 shades of gray which they're calling mom porn right now. It's like the biggest It's the it's like the huge the huge sensation now with like moms across America. Like 9,000 guys are trying to hit you up right now. Yeah, hold on. Really? I said he had

messages. People love me. My brother. It's not working either. Why? It's logged in. It says, you need to, yeah, you need to upgrade this account too. It says to upgrade it when I logged on. Yeah. So, do you have a Skype account? No, I don't use Skype anymore. I use GChat.

Oh, I could call her for my cell phone. Does that not work out well? Yeah, you can do it. I mean, that's the only thing that we can do. Okay, go for it. Okay, but then I can't talk but it's okay. No, I want you to talk. Should we just post-pollinate? What? Post-pollinate. If you want to, I don't care either way. I'll call.

I usually don't talk to the guest that much anyways. Yeah, you do. I just piss him off. I just piss him off. Yeah, you do. You just make faces. Sorry, everyone. This is, uh, it's really interesting.

We're keeping it ghetto. Hood. Are you calling her? Yep. Okay. I'll be waiting. You can lift. You can talk to.

Yeah. Hello. to. Yeah. Hello. Hello, Rachel. How are you? How are you? I'm good. I'm good. How are you?

Good. It's so good to talk to you. We're doing it. Our Skype wasn't working. So we're calling you for my cell phone with the speaker phone. I'm the thing. So hopefully you can hear us. I I can hear you perfectly, perfectly. So yeah, it's nice to talk to you.

I know we've tweeted, but we don't really know each other. I know, and I just stayed with Jamie Waxman. So I know you guys are friends. Yes. Well, you just saw Jamie Waxman? Yeah, I just stayed with her in terms of skill. Oh, you were here and I didn't get to meet you. I was there, but I was like playing around with crazy.

I know. Okay, you got to come back. You got to come back. So how did you, I know you've written a ton of books about erotica and your website is Rachel Kramer Basel. That's Basel with B-U-S-S-E-L. Correct. Okay, so how did, how did you start writing about sex?

You've written a ton of books. Um, I was in law school in, um, maybe six to 99 and then I had been reading some of the relatic before that. I was reading a lot of it during that time and I just got, oh, these are short stories, like I could write one. And there was a call out around that time for stories about celebrities.

And this is dating myself, definitely, to this was 99. And so I wanted to write about Monica Lewinsky. So I wrote about her for a book. Can I say any English words on there? You can say whatever the hell you want. I can get whatever on. OK, as we're going, uh-oh, the book's called Starfucker.

So I was just, this is very called Monica and me, and it was the Spanish-y, basically about me meeting Monica and she and the big girl. That got published, and that was to be really amazing. I still remember holding booked out book, and it was also published in the Westwood, being a lot of good, 10,000 wines. And I remember standing in a bookstore which no longer

Of course, I was so Exactly That's cool and you've been doing it ever since you've been writing so what, what's, and then you write a lot about bondage and erotica, what got you, what sparked your interest in that? You know, I think it's a really interesting and fun topic because you can play with all sorts of different things you can use in terms of bondage. Like equipment, there's a story in one of my best knowledge or other anthologies. I think 2011 about using tables in an office to type someone up.

I really use almost anything, I think there's the psychology of this, which is not anything about sex. I'm always interested in psychology, why? Some people are into one thing and some people are into something else and so I think you can play with that from both sides, you can play with the psychology of why someone wants to tie some up and then what are they going to do with that once they're tied up? Exactly. Why someone wants to be tied up?

And actually there's a really interesting story that I didn't write that's in my book, the funnage out at the 2012 And I read it out loud the other day because it was still compelling. It's called Milk and Paste by Shashana Evers. And it's about a woman who's no into being tied up. And she's not dating anyone. She can't really find a guy who you got with her. So she ties herself up.

And she's at the TMS, and she's waiting for this race to get the key out to unlock herself. And I thought it was still fascinating because really, She's got the TPM post and she's waiting for the site to get the T out, not herself. And I thought it was so fascinating because I can get into bondage. I like it sometimes, but having an interaction with another person, I don't know if I was like... Right, like it... Exactly, like it that much. So you're into bondage in your personal life?

I am. I mean, not all the time. And it's not like someone wasn't into it, it would be a deal baker. I don't really think I have to anything that if someone wasn't into it, it would be a deal baker really. But I do like bondage. I mean I don't think I don't do it all the time.

Right. But you're into it. Yeah, yeah. So what do you think about this whole 50 shades of grey? I was trying to tell Menace he's here. He's my co-host on the show. Can you hear her? Hello. So what do you think about this whole 50 Shades of Grey? I was trying to tell Menace he's here. He's my co-host on the show. Can you hear her?

Hello. We have our phones all over the way. But 50 Shades of Grey, why is such a huge phenomenon right now? I don't know. I just know that like it's everywhere. Because they're traveling a lot this past week. And it's that all the airport book stores right up front in terms of... I just...

I don't think it's that different or new, you know, it's a grown man and the protagonist is young and very inexperienced and her, you know, the side that she's really influenced. Older and kind of stern and like showing her the ropes, so to speak. But I think what's interesting to me is that I had trouble reading it and testing with our people because I thought so much about it, telling them what to do. I think that can be totally hot. I think that's personal life too. I think that's the moment to do it.

They tell me what to do. I think that when you're laying about it, if you're not hearing why are the person thinking to talk, then it can just be like be like someone telling you what to do. And that's not, you know, I think you need more of a context of what. Right. Keeping the orders is turned on by it. And that's the kind of rating I like where someone might be doing something that a lot of people would think that I would never want to do that, or that's something or that's you that or that's dangerous, that's whatever, but if you can get into the psychology

of why that would turn someone on, someone might want to, you know, call her out on the floor and eat out of the dump bowl and not every day and not with everyone but doing a great contact because they have a dynamic with someone where that's sexy. But I feel like for me, 50 Shades of Break didn't give me that dynamic. I don't really need much Apple. She was kind of doing a lot of the stuff just at least. And that is where I kind of lost. You don't see what's in it for her, but there's been so much when you've written so much.

How many books you've written? Like so many books. It would take me the entire show. It's like 42 books. Yeah, that's a lot. The little book, that's a whole. Oh my god. And so this book, yeah, that's a lot. And I'm sure a lot of your books have

the elements of 50 Shades of Grey. So I'm just, I'm wondering why this one just took off. They're calling it Mom porn. And my mom called me and was like, have you heard of this 50 Shades of Grey? You know, it's like, yeah. I think it's, I don't know. I mean, maybe people have just been eager for something, you know, that's especially about

that. But not like that's something new. They're applying and gale green. The aesthetic growth is that's selling a radical novel in the 70s. And I think there's in her out of novels that have captured the public imagination, but this one is just, first of all, it came about very quickly.

Like people are asking about it and they're not hundred and you've been heard of that, that she was a secretary was really fast. It's not like she was building up her career or people knew who she was or, you know, it's just, it's one of those. It's just, right, you just never know. But that's why I like the inspection element. Now I haven't read, it's why I like, or you know it just had right you just never know that the

pilot and the channel and now i don't really have much of a connection between the bondage novel like that by light yeah i mean either i don't know i feel like i should check it out but what would you say Rachel's in you know all about erotic i literature what what's a good starting point for someone who's never read erotic but they might be interested like where would you even start i think some of my t-shirt books those are pretty intense so i can't sure if that's what you're into like i don't want to carry a day oh read about taking a bondage but there's ones that are

more caring there's one called orgasmic that i really like. All I edited it and saw stories about being not orgasm. But some really different points of view. Oh, I love it. I'm a dream. And chemistry is about a woman who's turned on by chemistry and being in a science lab. And you know, she's a scientist. And I'm not into that at all.

Like chemistry has carried me. And I'm like, oh, I almost felt that. And I'm in college. But all. Like, chemistry's tearing me and I go, I almost felt that. I'm in college, but again, she needs me to get into the character, who's turned on by the scientist, the malpice nose, and the kind of power that scientists have to make perfect explode. And I think that a lot of people started out ready to run it, but certainly I did about stuff that they're interested in.

Right. Where the bigger challenges is to try to write about something that doesn't turn you on, the conviction to fictionalize it and make it something that sounds sexy. Right. Right. That's a good point. Yeah, you might never know. And also, it's a good way for couples to explore. Like, do you have any books that you recommend for couples to read together to kind of explore

what would make them feel good sexually. Maybe they can learn something. There's a lot out there right now. I edited it called The Red Festival, which features a couple and some are new couple. But some of them are definitely long-term couples doing everything from their parents, their deaf and their family to work and home-right, like just different things that real couples

go through. So you think a lot of go whether you're reading it out loud to each other, leaving your teacher reading it on your own and then comparing notes on what you like the best. I think you can keep the safe way to think about something that you might want to try or just to share a fantasy. Like I have you all about dirty and shined fantasies. While you have the freedom, when you put someone who you feel like you can say, oh, I wanted to do this.

I'm going to heat it up a minute. You're not really saying, I want to do this tomorrow. You're saying, I think about this. I'm going to turn it beyond. And I think sometimes people don't only get that. I think you're in me and I want to do this right now. And that can be a lot of pressure. And everything you've got in the heat

at the moment of fantasy, you know, meant that you wanted to do it right then. I think that would per kill a lot of people is talking dirty. Right. So I think there's definitely something to be said for around being a lady that tests the boundaries of just or just

or just say certain things out loud that you may not know how to say exactly because I'm always telling couples like you got to find out what her fantasies are what his fantasies are but this but reading erotic would be a good way to kind of read it together and discuss like well that kind of turns me on or just discuss you know the different things in it. The story turns you on just because it's an interesting story. It doesn't necessarily mean that you know you see yourself in that. Well maybe you know it's a story that I'm not a woman and you're a melting milk couple maybe the woman's yourself in the role of the man in the story. Right.

I think because it's fiction and there's still, it's like when you're watching a movie, you don't necessarily identify with the character who books are sound like you. You may identify with some other character. Exactly. I got to read more Radica. It's like been on my list forever.

I read some like in college, but not, I want to read some of yours. So your best sex writing of 2012 is what's coming out right now or what you're working on. Not actually non-fiction that's more stinky like I call it a book for sex nerds so there's definitely all sorts of stuff that can easily seem, can it be cute to consider what's going on in the world, not just in your personal life, but you know, outside of it as well. Right.

Okay. Cool. Well, we'll have to check that out and then just tell me quickly about your cupcake obsession. How does that relate? Where did that come from? Non-structural. People sometimes are like, what does that relate? Where did that come from? Non-structural people sometimes are like, what is bad meaning cupcake? I'm like, what do you think of these cupcakes?

You're like, I just like cupcakes. Yesterday I judged it. Well, I was at a cupcake, the cupcake camp Seattle, which is a charity event. And people, like hundreds of people came and they cupcake, and there was a cupcake getting contest where you have to see who was going to eat the most cupcakes in three minutes when it was kind of crazy. It was fascinating but I'll fill a little bit for it. I love that. You guys would love that.

That's so cool. That's awesome that you do that. So everyone can check out your site, Rachel Kramer, Bustle, BU SSEL. And that's Kramer, K-R-A-M-E-R. It's all going to be on our website. And then we can link to the show and we'll be sending to you. And thank you so much, Rachel, for sharing this and good luck with everything you've got working on.

And I hope to meet you some next time you're in town. Come say hi. Okay, cool. Thanks, Rachel. Have a great day. Bye. I want to talk more about the cupcakes. I know you did.

I knew your eyes were in the... That's when men is glazed over about a radical. But honestly, like, there was all these like books growing up like women on top and all this erotic of that. All those books that uh what's his name? Um the famous model he was on the cover of. Oh right Fabio. Fabio. Yeah. But that's when like this 50 shades of gray supposed to be like that kind of thing like appealing to that's awesome that that's coming back. That's coming back and I want to read it. I'm going to read more. You're going to bring back reading? I'm going to bring back reading. I think reading is sexy.

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