Sex With Emily - The “Bottom” Line On Anal w/ Dr. Evan Goldstein
Episode Date: April 30, 2021Anal sex isn’t as taboo as it once was but many people are still too shy to explore it. Today, I’m talking with nationally renowned anal surgeon and expert Dr. Evan Goldstein, about all things ana...l. From how to clean up before backdoor play (did you know you can be too clean?), to tips to enhance pleasure and the wide variety of things to try while you’re back there, we’ve got you covered.I also discuss how to address mismatched libidos in a relationship, tips Dr. Evan gives tips on how to relax, toys that can help, and which lubes are best for every act imaginable. We also break down lube shooters, how to minimize the risk of exposing yourself to STIs and what to consider whether you’re a top or a bottom. for getting ready for anal play, how feeling pressure to initiate and perform can affect the quality of your sex life, and the best ways to approach potential partners. For even more sex advice, tips, and tricks visit sexwithemily.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The misnomer of anal sex is painful. That shouldn't be the case.
Anal sex should not be painful. I think people think that you can go from nothing to something
big very quickly and you can't. They always want to go from zero to anal.
Totally. And there are definitely some people that are able to do it.
But the majority cannot.
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Anal sex isn't as taboo as it once was, but many people are still too shy to talk about
it.
Well, today I'm talking with nationally renowned anal surgeon and expert Dr. Evan Goldstein about all things anal.
Get ready for it.
We talk about how to clean up before backdoor play.
Did you know you can over-douch tips to enhance pleasure and the wide variety of things to
try while you're back there?
We've got you covered.
And remember, this is for all genders interested in anal play.
Dr. Evan gives tips on how to relax, toys that can help,
and which loops are best for every act imaginable.
We also break down loop shooters,
love loop shooter,
how to minimize the risk of exposing yourself to STIs
and what to consider regardless if you're at top
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How do I prepare for anal sex?
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Dr. Evan Goldstein is a nationally renowned anal surgeon specializing in sexual health
and wellness care in New York City.
Dr. Goldstein has extensive experience educating and shedding light on health care issues for
both the LGBTQ community and straight audiences.
He's also the founder and CEO of Beespoke's Surgical and the co-founder of Future Method.
Find more about Dr. Goldstein on social media at Dr. Evan Goldstein.
Hey Dr. Evan Goldstein, welcome to the show. So tell me by yourself.
Thank you, thank you. I started a practice called Beast Folks Surgeical about 12 years ago.
And I saw a huge need in the community, all stemming from everything that you get asked all the time.
And there really wasn't someone that was spearheading the movement of saying anal sex is totally
appropriate and fine.
How do we make sure that you are doing it as safely as possible with the appropriate education?
And if something does go wrong, how do we now make sure we have professionals
that are able to take care of it, both physically
and then obviously mentally,
because there's so much that combat's both of that.
And that was really the impetus of me
starting this practice.
I just saw a huge gap in the services
that was being delivered.
And I was like, how do we just do it and create an environment
that is destigmatizing, that doesn't create the taboo that's associated with it, make an environment
that's warm and comfortable and inviting because people are really talking about difficult
topics and topics that are really true
and dear to their heart.
And that's really spearheaded this kind of anal move
and it's been kind of crazy.
It is an anal movement, what you're doing,
because yeah, it is still very taboo though.
It's like the other thing that you do,
where do you think all the taboo comes from?
People always ask me that,
why do you think it's so taboo?
I think that again, it probably that the homophobic component
and the reality is that
it feels so good
but with the problem especially is a man i'll never have that honor of being a
man and getting it having a prostate
but i feel like in the years i've been doing this or something i've noticed is
it still taboo and people still wanting to want to know more than any other
subject which is why i'm so glad that you're here
But also that straight man have started to come around on their own and just say hey, I'm curious
I hear what you've been saying and maybe I should try it out, you know
Maybe I should put a finger in there about plug, you know, but there it's it's just in the last few years
So I don't know what you can do in there, but we're all ready for it
I mean, yeah, you know, I there, but we're all ready for it.
I mean, I mean, I think that that has actually been such a huge push and help in terms of
everything that we're doing at Bespoke Surgical and also a future method.
And we'll talk about that.
I think the key component has been breaking down these stigmas in society.
I did a study early on in my career and you know that what I do is a
referral-based practice, right? You go to a doctor, you say, my ass is hurt, and then they send
you to me. But the reality is that most doctors still don't talk about sex, and they don't ask
them on a general health physical of like, hey, are you sexually active? What type of sex
are you engaging? Do you enjoy it? Are you happy? I mean, those are questions that people just never
ask anybody. No, they don't. And then I said, well, if doctors aren't asking the questions,
my business model is flawed, right? Because no one's going to refer, because they're not actually asking the right questions.
And so seven years ago, I hired a publicist and a PR team,
and we say, you know what, let's create a mission.
And the mission is how do we kind of use popular press
and push the narrative so that people can get educated
and hopefully explore sexually in new ways that they never actually
knew was what they wanted and or possible.
And you're so right. I mean, the thing is, is when you look at where we've been successful,
we've been successful in two areas.
Female-centered publications and straight, like barstall sports, Cosmo, Vogue, and it's interesting because those are,
you know, pushing that narrative into the heterosexual world
has actually helped us on the gay space because now people
are talking about it and people are saying,
well, you know, yeah, I could actually enjoy this
and I should offer this to my partner or partners
and how do we do it safely?
So it's been quite interesting. That is so interesting. You went in through the the straight door to get to the back door.
Okay, so what are all the things that people want to know about anal?
Should we just start there? I mean what I can say is off the top of my head it's gonna be painful.
How do I clean for it?
And you have so much great knowledge in this area.
Sure.
So when I first started practicing,
I kind of broke things up into categories.
And that's actually what those pillars
are what is founded in terms of how I practice.
And it's, how do you prepare for anal sex? How do you actually engage or play?
And then what is the aftercare? And so I think the misnomer of anal sex is painful. It's really
that shouldn't be the case. Anal sex should not be painful. You should not bleed. You should not
you know be an excruciating pain. That's just not
how it should work. I think people think that you can go from nothing to something big
very quickly and you can't. It was going to go from zero to anal. Totally. And there
are definitely some people that are able to do it. But the majority cannot. And so I usually recommend doing a four to six week
protocol of using toys.
And it gets people one to know, do they like it?
Or do they find it pleasurable?
Two is it really starts for people
to learn the pelvic floor and the anal anatomy.
There's, it's not very complicated.
There's two things in the ass.
It's skin and it's muscle. That's not very complicated. There's two things in the ass. It's skin and
it's muscle. That's it. And the key is how do you get the skin to fully relax and
how do you get the muscle to relax. Now if you think of skin, skin itself is
very very thin, especially in the ass. And so by using a toy or a butt plug or a
dilating kit, what you're doing is you're kind of strengthening the skin.
And I tell people, it's like you and I going to the gym. If we're lifting weights, we get calluses on our hand.
It's the same concept. The bar is creating a protective callus. If you're using a toy in your ass, a couple of times a week,
in a very gradual progression,
you're gonna start creating good healthy skin
that is now strong enough to descend
so that you can engage however and whatever you want.
And so the process of dilating over four to six weeks
allows for the skin to get fully comfortable
with opening, and then allows for you to understand the three different muscles that are there
that sequentially need time to learn how to relax.
And so I usually tell people it's a six week process, and it's using three toys that come
in like a set small medium and large.
And just like going to the gym, I tell people do it right when you're showering by yourself,
you'll take the toy, a lot of lube, and you'll just like going to the gym give me two sets
of 12. That's all you need to do. Two sets of 12, what? Like pulses or 12 minutes?
No, in and out. So you're just going to go all the way in, hold it there until you hit
a little resistance and then come back out.
And each time that you go in and out, I usually tell people to re-lubricate it so that you're
kind of understanding that lube needs to be 360 degrees around. And each time that you're going in and out, you're kind of applying the loop in that area,
plus you're learning how to relax those three muscles.
And it takes time.
And with that said, it's really for people to understand the anatomy of, okay, this is
how I actually relax when I'm engaging.
And it takes time for the body because the neural mechanism is only really created for
shitting.
It's like, hey, how do I relax when I'm going to the bathroom?
That's it.
Now, it's okay.
How do I take this to the next level and get to a point where I can fully receive what
I want?
So, how do you explain that?
So I can see them putting it in and taking it out.
But how do you, is there a breath work that you explain to them when they're going in
out?
How do they relax?
Because the neuro muscular, like we're just, we're so used to tensing.
So how do you get them to be like?
That's right.
Relax, yeah.
Totally right.
Well, the small toy is really small. So it becomes, it's pretty easy to go in and out.
Now, with that said though, usually how,
when someone comes to the office and I'm doing exam,
I'm asking them to kind of push out.
I so I usually say, push out like you're gonna take a shift.
And what happens is they learn how to relax.
And they're like, oh, that's interesting.
And I said, yeah, when I'm pushing in the the instrument or the toy, if you push out, it now allows for things to fully
to open. And you can start to kind of work breaths into that. And you know, there's yoga, there's
pelvic floor therapy. There's all these things that you learn. But the key is going until you hit resistance, holding the toy there,
breathing, taking it back out, re-lubricating, and doing it again.
And not to get frustrated, because a lot of people will be like, oh god, this is not happening
and they get really tense.
And it says, okay, say, okay, that session is finished, try it again another time.
And you'll start to see that over the next couple of weeks,
that you'll be able to start getting the small in without issues.
And then you'll always start with the small toy,
gradually working to the medium, and then getting up to the large.
And through there, you'll start to really see.
Now, if you're bleeding, if you're having pain,
if things aren't moving the way that you're thinking, then
you should see somebody.
Because there's a lot of people that have predisposed issues, whether it's a hemorrhoid, whether
it's a fissure, which is a tear, whether it's some extra skin that developed, I see a lot
of post-pregnancy women that come to me with some hemorrhool skin tissue that causes them issues with just wiping, let alone or
feeling sexy from vaginal sex, let alone on an anal perspective.
So there's lots of things that may cause issues that if things aren't gliding the way
that you think that they should, then you should see somebody to make sure that we're all
on the same page before you push it further.
How, who else would they see now?
You're like the most, I feel like there should be nobody else.
If anything goes wrong with my A-ness, I'm getting out of plane to New York.
That's what I got to say about that.
But yeah, because it's women, it's really, yeah, it's everybody with an A-ness, right?
That's right.
Which would be all of us.
Are there toys that you recommend or you sell in your office or online? Yeah, so. So on my website, bespoke surgical, there's a lot of different toys that are there
and different apparatuses to help. And then it goes over kind of why I think that they're
really great. And also people can get the protocol as well on our website so that people
can start doing what they need to to get to where they want.
And that's bespoke-surgical.com.
But you guys can find that.
We'll put that in the show notes as well.
Okay.
So let's talk about loop for a minute because someone asked me like, I got 30 seconds
and they're like, give me your best tips for anal.
I'm like, breathe, go slow, use lots of loop, right?
That's kind of my thing if I'm like in a hurry.
You know, then we talk about it. But the loop thing, my thing if I'm like in a hurry, you know, and then if we talk about it,
but the lube thing, it's like, I'm like, apply, reapply,
I think silicone lube is the best for anal, typically,
water-based, no one's got time for that,
to keep reapplying, reapplying,
unless they're using toys,
we have to use water-based with toys.
But is that pretty much what you recommend?
Yeah, you know, I think that not all lube
is created equal.
That's true.
That's for sure, And a lot of people
have reactions to certain lube or cans. So you just got to really see. Now, if I'm playing
with toys on my own, I'm using water based because it's just so much easier, easier to clean.
And a lot of the toys can't support silicone. So you just got to be careful. If you use silicone
with silicone, it actually eats away at some of the rubber
and then the silicone there.
So I usually say for toys and you're not engaging
in anal water-based lube is the best.
If you're doing pure anal, I agree with you.
I think silicone has the best lubricity that is out there.
With that said, I love toys before sex or during sex
because it's going to allow you to be pre-loovircated
to be dilated the right way.
You know, if you assume that somebody is at a top or someone that is inserting actually
knows what they're doing, you're going to get hurt.
So my whole stick is if you are about them or receiving, you need to be so understanding of all these
things so that you minimize your risk.
And the way to do that is to, you can be submissive, but you can know, okay, how do I make
sure that I dilate before?
How do I make sure that I'm using the right lube and what's called a lube shooter, which
is basically a syringe that I love the Loub.
I love that.
I love that.
Oh, it's a game changer.
Once you start using the right tools to get you where you want to go.
And the assumption needs to be, and the goal for bespoke surgical was always, how do I
empower the bottom?
And by empowering the bottom, it's making sure that they're educated,
making sure that they're doing everything right,
and also assuming that nobody else knows what the fuck they're doing.
Yeah, and if they're on the top, exactly,
the top doesn't know, because they're a top.
Like, they don't know that you need these things.
Like, how would they know you're right?
We have to be our own best anal advocates.
That's right. That's right.
So many times, you want to just assume,
like, I to just assume like
i always just assume my partners knew everything because i didn't know anything
you know before i had this
has my career right right can't find out that no one knows anything
it'll know shit
shit
stick around after the break doctor goldstein gives his top tips for cleaning up
before anal play. So the other question I get asked all the time is about douching.
And I know you have some strong protocol around this too.
And I wonder, like I often say that the store bought ones aren't so great because there's
the vinegar, whatever, whatever, what's in it with that.
But then I heard you say an interview, so I want to talk that water is a great either.
So please, please.
So one of the things that my practice at Bespoke was I started to see people coming to me over
and over with the same injury or the same STD.
And then I started to break down into those categories of, well, what are people actually doing?
And a lot of people are using really huge bulbs
to do shout and clean out.
They're using shower hoses.
And so we started to look at, well,
what are the differences that are causing problems?
And there's three things.
One is the solution that people are using is not correct.
Whether they're using water or they're using a store bought enema.
And what happens is that when you use this, you're actually getting rid of your protective
lining in the ass.
It's like dosing in the vagina too, because that's right.
Same exact concept.
That's right, same exact concept.
And the water and the enema cause so much irritation internally
that now you are predisposing yourself to HIV, STDs,
and injury.
And so we said, okay, well, why don't we just develop
something that is gonna be safe?
And that was the impetus of me creating a future method.
And future method is all about that, which is like,
how do we look at sex and the way that communities engage?
And then how do we put products to support it?
And so I said, OK, why don't we make this our mission?
And the first product that we launched with was
an appropriate anal douche solution.
And the solution is pH balanced very similar
to the vaginal side, which is how do we clean
and give people what they want,
that sexy feeling and clean,
but without irritating the cells, without causing damage.
And so I said, okay, first thing,
let's come up with a solution.
So we did that.
Second thing is, let's come up with appropriate education and an appropriate system, because
I think people are actually over-douching.
They're over-douching.
And then, right, I don't think that everybody needs a douche.
If you know your natural cycle, like if you go onto the bathroom that day, you know,
like, I don't think you have to.
Every time people get so, like what about poop?
And then I always say, well, it happens.
So throw a sheet down like it's messy.
Yes, I agree.
And I think that I'm so glad you mentioned that.
Because the reality is that I think seven to eight out
of 10 people will not have shit anywhere near
where you're having sex.
And it's just people to understand anatomy, you know?
Where we're having sex and it's just people to understand anatomy you know where we're having anal
is actually clean it's when you're having the bowel movement the crap moves into the anal area
and then you shit it out right but the rest of that is actually clean and and we talk a lot about
instead of anal health gut health which is how do you make sure you're eating right how do we make
sure we're doing nighttime fiber supplementation?
So that's you shit.
First thing in the morning and it's like a appropriate and it completely empties you.
How do you use toys?
And I tell people all the time, like prove it to yourself, use a toy without douching
on your own.
And I bet you nine times out of ten, no poop whatsoever. And so I think the stigma
associated with it, your own internal stigma and also society's pressures make people want
to do. So I said, okay, well, if we are going to do, then how do you do it the right way?
The right solution, also a much smaller bulb. Our bulb is smaller. Why? Well, because
you really just need to clean very, very like eight to 12 centimeters internally. You're
not talking about a ridiculous amount where you need to clean.
That makes so much sense.
Totally. So the key is like, how do you educate people being mad at me? And again, that's to blame for sexual education
in our country, right?
Specifically, anal and gay sex.
I mean, I hope in my lifetime that there'll be courses
that are really sponsored by the appropriate
governmental, you know, government.
I know, that's what I want to.
I want it to for everybody.
There's no sex education.
And then with gay sex, yeah, I could see that you must have so many people coming in with injuries from
years of just not, where would you go? You see porn and they're not showing you the
whole thing. They're not showing you their dilators and building up nothing. There's nothing.
So there's more harm. Yeah. Wow. I think this is such a great protocol. So this is what
we're talking about is like the having a healthy microbiome.
Totally. You know, there's a couple of things and there's some stuff coming out that you'll
see on the future method side of biome stuff. And we know a couple of things. When you
overduce, we're using water. You're actually altering the microbiome. And there's a specific
bacteria that we know elevates. And when that elevates, you're susceptible to STDs, HIV, and injury.
So the key is, how do we balance all of this?
I know what people want.
They want a sexy ass that has no shit
and is silky and playable.
I know that.
The issue is, how do we now make sure
that people are doing it in a way that's not harmful? We do have so many harmful things to ourselves and then we just keep going.
Assuming it's going to get better, we don't want to ask our doctors because there's
so much shame around it. So I love that your site has so much great education.
I always say less is more with anal. You need to think that in everything. It's like, how do I just create an environment
that is going to be safe for everybody
and also minimizes much risk as possible?
Because the acid itself is very thin walled.
The pressures of sex are greater
than really what a lot of that can sustain
without you taking these precautions in the right way.
And then also like, look, you are gonna get hurt
every once in a while and you are gonna bleed
and have some pain.
And so the question is, okay, well, if that happens,
how do I now take care of myself early on
to so that I don't have these long-term complications
or see somebody that knows
about sexual wellness that's specific to my community.
That's makes so much sense.
So what do you do for aftercare if you do have tears or just in general?
I think that a lot of it is like a three to five day break of making sure the poops are
soft.
So add some stool softers, ebbs and salt baths are really great.
I use these and love these suppositories,
which have cocoa butter in them
to kind of soothe the lining.
Also, even like a preparation age,
both inside and out.
And then after three to five days,
you should start to see that like,
you know, everything's getting better and improving.
If things aren't,
then the key is really making sure
that you see somebody, because there's so many things
that we can do early on that doesn't need surgical treatment.
Let's say that we've got people now interested
and they're like, okay, I'm gonna take the precautions.
Are there any tips you have for beginner anal play?
Yeah, so I mean, I think a couple of things.
One is being in control.
The first couple of sessions is so important.
So a lot of it is just being on top.
Meaning have the person lay down, get them erect,
or whatever toy they're using.
It depends on how you're engaging.
And you're in control.
You're sitting on it.
You're trying to manipulate and try to see,
don't let somebody get behind you. If somebody's behind you, they're going to kind of do their thing
and their thing is not really over the best. So the key is kind of, I think bringing in toys
to foreplay is amazing. You know, especially like, you know, fine, if you don't want to bring it in,
because you don't feel comfortable, do it literally right before. And again, like when you're
dushing, when you're cleaning out, if that's what you're doing, use the toy. It helps with
getting rid of any extra liquid solution that you use. It'll also lubricate everywhere and get
you kind of prepared to then do what you want to.
I think you need to find somebody that is super fun, but also communicative, so that you can have
a really, really good like, hey, this is my first or hey, this is what I want to do.
And then can we kind of work together in a really good way, where it may not be overtly crazy
sexy, but you're learning had to kind of
manipulate in the way to then get yourself into a good space with different
positions, etc. So you've got to choose like a friend with benefit or a partner
that is really really understanding and trying to see. And also you know, don't
go crazy big, you know, I'm saying I know we all like big things, but you know,
choose wisely the size as
well if you can.
That can happen too, people
will that what you're
saying is Tony Hill picture
analist someone coming in
from behind, but I love what
you're saying about it being
on top and lowering yourself
down so you're in control.
Exactly.
So it's a commissionary.
That's right.
I know so any of the
positions that you're facing
the partner is actually a really good position because you can see the grimaces.
You can see the pain. You can see the pleasure. You can kind of you're kind of forced to communicate even if it's not verbally.
So like I usually tell people starting in that capacity is a really good way. And then once you kind of get yourself into a really good space,
then great thing you could start to explore
and be open to that.
I also think that like using the toys,
I usually tell people there's a dilator kits that I like.
And then like, if you've passed that,
then the next is kind of Dildos,
which I think are really great
because they're lifelike,
they'll give you a little bit of understanding of, oh, this is how I can actually relax to
achieve what I want.
So there is this kind of middle ground before you're kind of jumping on the real thing.
Now, is it ever, we're going back to size.
Is it ever a case where it's just too big?
You're like, that's just no.
Like, this is just a no, no, no.
The text you pictures are like, Dr. Goldstein that right? That is the hardest
thing to teach somebody which is when to say no. I mean, I even to my kids right? I mean, you know,
you're kind of like in anything like well that's probably not a good idea right? And so with that said
you really need to understand and using the toys and the dildos will allow you to understand like what you're capable of doing. Now, no matter what, there are
definitely people that as they're using toys and dildos, they cause issues.
It's painful, they feel burning, there's a little bit of a tear and it
becomes this restriction that doesn't allow them to engage with what they want. And there's certain things that I can do
in the office and in an operating room to help people. A lot of people, their muscle is way too tight. I
see people that, you know, we're a lot of Peloton users. We're doing a lot of squats. All these things
create such beautiful butts, right? But they're actually getting so much muscle to happen annually.
And so what you see is that they're not able to fully, fully relax.
I see a lot of body builders come to me because they have so much muscle built up annually
that now when we say, okay, relax, they can't.
And so I do a lot of Botox where I can inject Botox into certain muscles to give people that relaxation.
Also, I give some under the skin line or actually bring people to the operating room to kind of open up
both the muscle and the skin to now allow people to do what they want.
So using the toys and the dildos and kind of preparing allows for people to really see
like, oh, well, maybe I do have something that's limiting me.
And I do want to engage.
Now the muscle is really great.
You can kind of work that in both capacities, tight and loose.
But a lot of times it's the skin that's the limiting factor.
And today I had a couple of Skype calls from people where they go to a surgeon and the
surgeon basically cuts the muscle because they're like, oh, they're too tight.
But the reality is that no, they were taking dick and toys before.
It's actually the skin.
And if you don't correct the skin issues,
it's never gonna actually heal.
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your listener questions.
So I have a question for you about the gay community.
So I always have, I was talking to some of my gay friends about this.
They're like, oh yeah, they're only bottoms or they're only tops.
But I'm wondering, like, I always say like if I had a prostate, I would definitely like
take a gander and figure it out.
Is it more like you just think like, I'm just going to be a bottom or I'm just going to
be at top?
Like, you know, there are switches, but you think there would be more because it can feel
good to everybody.
So what is that about?
Do you think it's changing at all or?
It is because actually my generation, I'm in the 40 to 60s, right?
So we're actually the first living out gay men ever.
You know, you think about what generation before they all died of HIV and AIDS, right?
Exactly.
So what you're seeing is, you're seeing a lot of people as they're aging, they're out
of different, they're out of their older relationships or their erections aren't working so well.
So now they're varying into other things. Now, my question is, and you kind of brought
it up, which is when someone comes to my office and I ask them do you identify gay, straight by whatever and then they say yes, I say okay
Do you engage in elite? Do you consider yourself a top first bottom if at all and most of them like oh well, I'm a top and then I usually say well
Are you a top because you're just like that's not my thing or are you a top? Because you're just like, that's not my thing.
Or are you a top?
Because when you tried to bottom, it was painful.
It didn't feel good.
And nine times at a 10, all of these tops
want to take it up the ass.
That's what I thought.
I'm so glad you're like, in my own research,
I'm like, that makes no sense.
Why would you only be a top?
Right? That's right. Right. Interesting, that makes no sense. Why would you only be a top? Right? Feel that.
Interesting.
That makes so much sense, of course.
Now, I think that they're definitely gonna be people
that are upon those.
I'm like, hey, I want to do, this is who I am.
And I totally get that and respect that.
With that said though, a lot, and I say,
well, what if I were to make bottoming feel really good?
What if I make it to the point where like,
you're like, I like this?
Like would you do it? And they're all like hell yeah I would do it. I mean I do it like all the time
but I would definitely bring it into my world. And then also you know we did a couple of research
studies on different cities and like you know there are definitely cities that have way too many
bottoms or have way too many tops. And so like,
you know, if you become a little bit more versatile, you could actually kind of change your
experience.
This is an education, I think, unique, because I've just, I've just been talking to my
friends about it and just asking it. So I think, yeah, it's just we don't have the information.
Maybe it hurt once. Maybe you maybe there's still isn't, maybe you're gay and there's
still some homophobia. Who knows?
That's right. We actually got some questions that came in from our listeners that I would love you to help me answer.
Okay, this is from Sarah in her 30s in Chicago. Hey Dr.
Emily, I started listening a month ago. I love your show. Thanks for the help. I've learned a lot. Okay.
So I have hemorrhage and I'm wondering, does that mean I should never have anal sex?
They developed in my 20s. I'm about to be 40, they don't flare up much anymore, hardly at all, but the skin tags are still there. It's embarrassing. I've had some insecurity during
sex just at the idea of them being seen. I've thought about having them removed. I'm gaining
some confidence though, really only recently since I started listening to your show.
My front with benefits has shown interest in tickling my butthole when we shower together,
so I've started to warm up to the idea, which I never would have before.
He hasn't asked for anal sex.
He just asked if it feels good when he tickles it.
I'm not sure if he's seen it, I imagine he has, it makes me nervous.
Is it bad to consider sex to have hemorrhids?
So I guess she has skin tags and she's had a history.
What do you think about this?
So I think let's break it down into hemorrhoids first and skin tags.
Okay.
So hemorrhoids are there for reason.
They're there to protect the ass.
So when we're pooping or we're having sex, blood goes into those hemorrhoids which are
these veins and acts like an airbag.
It's like a cushion.
And then blood leaves. If we're pushing too much, if
we're constipated, if we're doing heavy lifting, if post pregnancy, the mechanism of blood going and blood leaving can
leave you with these extra skin or these hemorrhoids that flare up periodically. Now, if you have hemorrhoids, the key is, no, if you're not
bleeding, you're not having pain and you feel fine, using
toys actually probably helps the hemorrhoids because most
of the hemorrhoids happen because your ass is too tight.
And so if you're able to fully relax, those hemorrhoids
usually don't flare. So the key component is, yeah, I would say, look, if you're able to fully relax, those hemorrhoids usually don't flare.
So the key component is, yeah, I would say,
look, if you have hemorrhoids and they're not bothering you,
use some toys with good lubricant and seeing
if indeed they become an issue.
Some people, they will and it flares up and like,
all right, well, then maybe we need to tend to the hemorrhoids.
But many people are able to use toys, dilate, stretch, the hemorrhoids never flare and they're
good to go.
So I would say using the toys with lube and going slow.
Now, on the sexy side, a lot of people that I see, I do a lot of aesthetic work with,
how do we make things look prettier?
And it's not even on an anal side,
because I have so many women that just are like,
Evan, I just feel gross just on a vaginal side,
because someone's gonna see this or they feel it,
and I just get so self-conscious.
And there's lots of things that I can do
to remove the extra skin that's there,
aesthetically make it pleasing,
plus also if we need to take care of the hemorrhoid. move the extra skin that's there aesthetically make it pleasing,
plus also if we need to take care of the hemorrhoid.
The key is how do we make people feel sexy
and then engage sexually however they want?
And that can happen.
It's just a matter of making sure
that it aligns with their ultimate goals.
Okay, wow, that's great.
You can kind of fix anything then, really.
Skin tag, you can remove skin tag easily, but. Okay, wow, that's great. You can kind of fix anything then, really. Skin tag, you can remove skin tag easily,
but yeah, a lot of doctors won't remove the skin tags.
And it's, you know, I kind of bridge plastic surgery
and colorectal and I put it together.
These guys, they don't think that skin tags are a problem.
You know, they don't have the concept of like,
well, just ignore it.
Well, wait a second, I feel it every
time I walk. I'm trying to wear a G-string for a sexy night and I feel them and they're
rubbing. All these things I know men and women can be an issue and the answer is it shouldn't
be an issue and there are solutions that are out there.
Now they have a place to go and feel safe to talk about it because no one wants to go into their doctor.
That's great.
So I've got a skin tag in my anus.
You must be busy.
You really must be.
Okay, this is from Shannon, 29 in Texas.
And she says,
Hi, Dr. Emily, I have a male friend
who really wants to experience anal,
but he had his colon removed.
And he says his doctor said he can have anal sex.
What are your thoughts on this?
Is there any possibility for him to experience anal pleasure?
So it's a little bit of a complicated question because I don't know when they had the colon
removed, which portion of the colon was removed and did they put this person back together.
So now there are definitely people that I treat that had colon resections that
Do engage annually and they can it really depends upon how they were put back together
If it was let's say a rectal tumor and they remove that portion when they put people back together
There's a staple line or a suture line very close into the S. And so sometimes they're prohibitive of doing
anal. With that said, a lot of times there's certain things that I can do to help to make
sure that one that the suture line is exactly what it should be strong enough to engage
anal. We talk about different practices of making sure that they're prepared because if they lose
a portion of their coal and sometimes they have a little bit more diarrhea and they can't
hold their stools.
So we talk on using emotium or tincture of opium or certain things to kind of slow their
gut down so that they can engage annually the way that they want to. I think that, you know, this is the typical straight doctor who is like,
ah, you know, who the fuck, you don't need anal sex.
I shouldn't be doing that shit anyway, you know what I'm saying?
Any answers? No. He needs to be evaluated.
There needs to be discussions to make sure that we're doing everything safely.
But if somebody wants something up their ass, they should be discussions to make sure that we're doing everything safely. But if somebody wants
something up their ass, they should be able to do it. And have them call me or email. We do a lot
of things out from all over to try to see if they're able to do what they want.
Okay, well, however, reach out. All right, here's another question.
Alice in 24 in Georgia, dear Dr. Emily, my boyfriend, I want to try anal sex. Neither of us have ever experienced it.
I know there are anal kits, toys and loops for anal sex.
But where do we start?
What are your tips and suggestions for beginners?
Yeah.
So I think that it's great if both want to be involved in it and the more the merrier.
I think that the key, like we said prior, was understanding the anatomy, understanding how do you gradually
work with different sets of toys.
At bespokecurgical.com, we talk a lot about the protocols.
Also, it'll, in our shop, have different lubricants that we think are really important with
loop shooters and also these diluting kits.
And it goes over certain toys that I like and why I like them. And it gives people
just an understanding of the right way to start out. And again, it's a good four to six weeks
and using this as foreplay to see first off if you really enjoy it. And if you do, great, keep going.
Most people, once you finish the four to six weeks, you're up to about the medium to large toy and then you can definitely start getting into anal.
So check out the website and then obviously if they, you know, if there's more questions, I'm totally available.
Okay, good. I love that. Okay, there's one more question I have for you because I want to know about your study you did on your site, people can find it at bespokecirical.com about the most
popular sex positions based on Google searches by state.
So people love sex positions, they want to know.
And I was just interested to find out like, what are we doing in California, right?
So we're doing the cliff diver, which I don't even know what I guess it looks familiar.
And then like, okay, so you're, I don't know,
tell me about the impetus for the survey,
and what we need to know about sex positions
across America.
Yeah, so I mean, I think that it just,
we do a lot of different studies and campaigns
as it relates to sex.
And we wanna know, like, what are the favorite positions?
What about different toys from different bondage to different, you know
Sexual positions and different components to this and so we run usually about four or five campaigns a year
And we do a lot of really interesting studies to try to figure out across the country or across the world
How do we start and it's all to kind of really
how do we start? And it's all to kind of really destigmatize sex. And it's also interesting to see like in certain locations where it's really, really what you would think is like back country
and nobody's engaging where you start to say, holy god, like this is crazy. And you start to really
develop and understanding that everybody is into anal. And everybody is into sex.
And now the key is, well, okay,
it's all well and good behind closed doors,
but how do we start bringing it to the forefront
so that people are exposed and hopefully over time,
really the stigma and the taboo starts to diminish.
Yeah, there's a rise in anal engagement,
you might as well do it correctly,
and let's minimize your pain and enhance your pleasure,
which is what you're all about.
Totally, totally.
I think we spoke of obviously the before,
we spoke of the play of positions and lubricants,
and then kind of the aftercare.
I think it's so interesting when you look at people
do so much for their face, right?
In terms of facials and exfoliants and all these things,
well, the same thing should happen annually.
You know, one thing I think I want all your listeners
to know is, wet wipes are terrible for you.
That's so many.
I just see that why, why, I did not know that.
But if you were like screw goldstein,
I'm gonna use these wet wipes.
Oh, wipes are just like,
even what are the ones that are made for set?
Tell me why.
Couple of things.
One is when you think just moisture in general,
that area is already too moist, too wet.
Because it's where the sun doesn't shine.
There's sweat that happens.
We're sitting all day.
We're usually clothed.
So when you're using wipes, a couple of things happen.
One is the solution gets rid of the good bacteria.
So again, we spoke of that microbiome.
There's a balance.
We have good and bad bacteria.
And when you use wet wipes, what happens is you're getting rid of the good protective
bacteria.
So you see a lot of irritation from fungus to even like a herpes outbreak or these
source even in my community. I start to see a lot of HPV and in an awards just from these wives.
And most people are using them. Look, the companies do so well in advertising and they're like,
oh my god, I want to be so clean. But what you see is all of these complications from that.
And so we speak a lot of toilet paper popping into the shower,
the days, less of that chemical.
And even if they say, oh, it's chemical free, it's natural.
Well, no, it's not.
It's moisture and the cloth that people are using,
people are irritated in and of itself on that aspect.
So you just got to be super careful with the wipe stuff.
You know, periodically, once here and there,
it's not a huge deal.
But it's the regular usage of that that causes issues.
So some people have them instead of toilet paper,
they just have that.
That's right.
Don't do that.
Okay, even your anus, how about your vagina as well? So same component to it, you know. Yes, some people have them instead of toilet paper. They just have that. That's right. Don't do that.
Okay.
Even your anus, how about your vagina as well?
So same component to it, you know.
You know, the thing is that when we wipe with wipes, people are like, Oh, great.
I'm clean.
And then they pull up their underwear and it's not dry.
And so that moisture sits there all day and causes issues.
So it's the wipes.
Wow.
Second is, you know, we, we, a future
method came out with an anal exfoliant because I started to see like post sex
people with silicone lube, it's so hard to get off, right? Even your sheets,
right? Yes, yes, yes. But with that, I was like, well, wait a second. If you're
showering, why don't we just come up with an exfoliant that just gets rid
of the excrement, the silicon loop, but also kind of like soothes it, polishes it, and
creates this kind of first aid in the area.
Because we know that even if you feel great, that there's definitely friction and irritation
in the area.
So, so we said, okay, well, let's do that. We came
up with the button body anal exfoliant, which we absolutely love with our signature sense.
And then I said, okay, well, well, now that we're done, how do we come up with a lotion
that is like this first aid to the ass, right? You cleaned it, now it's dry, how do we come up?
But again, it took us a while because a lot of the lotions
create too much moisture.
And so we want it fast on, but fast dry.
We want the soothing capability in the first aid component,
but we don't want any excess.
I ran all about you and I've heard about you
and I think you're doing amazing work
and I feel like you've such a great niche here that people and
it's our aided like everyone has one. Like the fact that you're creating such
these great products for everybody is really incredible. So congrats on all of
your all of your success. And thank you. Thank you for being here. I have to ask you
the five quicky questions we ask all of our guests. So just quick answers. Ready? Biggest turn on.
Biggest turn on.
Smooth.
Smooth.
Biggest turn off.
Hair.
What bit?
No hair.
What makes good sex?
Oh, God.
What makes good sex?
I think for play.
Something you tell your younger self about sex and relationships.
I made so many errors in as I was going through this.
Just be true to who you are.
Okay, what's the number one thing you wish everyone knew about sex?
That anal sex shouldn't be painful and that it should be a hundred percent pleasurable
and the world should accept anal into their hearts. I'm doubt. Is it still illegal in states, isn't it? There's some states.
It's crazy or even countries. I mean, come on, we still have so much work to do, but I thank you.
I mean, oh my god, I listened to what you're doing out there. So congrats on all of that.
Thank you.
And thanks for taking the time to support my mission and cause. And if you need anything forward,
any questions pop up.
Yeah, totally.
I'm all about it.
I'm all about, where can we kind of throw out your site,
but where can people find you?
Just let us know in the comments.
Sure, so bespoke surgical on all the Instagram,
Facebook handles, or bespokeseurgical.com,
future method, futuremethed.com, and then the future method on Instagram.
And then I kind of do anal and my family life
with my partner, we have two twin boys together.
And that's on Dr. DR Evan Goldstein on Instagram handle.
Okay, great.
Thank you for being here.
I so appreciate you.
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