Sex With Emily - Vagina Spas & Sexual Ahhs with Dr. Carolyn Delucia
Episode Date: September 29, 2018On today’s show, Emily is joined by renowned OB/GYN Dr. Carolyn Delucia, a woman with groundbreaking ideas, to talk about – you guessed it – all things vulvas, vaginas, and sex! The two discuss ...the real difference between sexual health and sexual wellness, what men and women really need to know about regulating hormones – because it matters more than we think, how to get the sexual health answers you’ve been looking for from your doctor, and what it’s really like at a vagina spa. Thank you for supporting our sponsors who help keep the show FREE: Womanizer, Adam & Eve, Fleshlight Follow Emily on all social: @sexwithemily Follow Dr. Delucia on Instagram: @dr.de For more on V Spot Medi Spa, visit: vspotmedispa.com For even more sex advice, tips, & tricks, visit: sexwithemily.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily.
On today's show, I'm joined by OBGYN, Dr. Carolyn Delusia, to talk about, you guessed it,
all things, vulvas, vaginas, and sex.
Topics include, the real difference between sexual health and sexual wellness, how you can
use your yearly pap to your advantage and get the answers you've been looking for, hormones,
what men and women can do to get your bodies regulated and what it's really like out of a Jhinospaw.
All this and more, thanks for listening. Betrubized, they called them a bi-gon. Hey, Emily. You got a boyfriend?
Because my man E here, he just got his heart broken.
He thinks you're kind of cute.
The girls got a hair stand.
It's a lie.
The women know about shrinkage.
Isn't it common knowledge?
What do you mean, like laundry?
It shrinks.
Can we not talk about sex so much?
Are you kidding me?
Oh my god.
I'm so, so, so, so.
Being bad feels pretty good.
You know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with.
and bad feels pretty good. You know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with.
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am so excited for you to listen today's episode where I'm joined by Dr. Carolyn Delusia.
I had the pleasure of working with her
on a nationwide tour where we've been speaking
to medical professionals about women's sexual health
and wellness.
We recorded this interview in New York City
right after one of the events,
and we were both feeling really excited
about all the innovative options available
to help women with everything from bladder leaks
to orgasms, just challenges to our overall sexual health.
And Dr. Duluthia is really at the cutting edge of all of this.
We covered so much groundless interview, even an amazing magnet chair that you can sit
on, fully clothed, that can restore your pelvic floor in just a few sessions.
It is so cool I have sat on this chair.
And don't worry, we are going to have links to everything we talked about in the show
notes on my site, sexwithelm.com. I think you're going to get a lot from this
interview, whether you have a vagina, or you know someone who does. I hope you'll have
as much fun listening as I did talking with Dr. Delusia. Enjoy the interview.
I'm really excited. I'm sitting here in New York City in my hotel room, and I'm interviewing
Dr. Carolyn Delusia. She's been in general OB-GYN practice since 1992.
After several years, she evolved her practice to include anti-aging medicine, and she now
runs two facilities, Viva Rejuvenation in New Jersey and V-Spot MediSpot in New York.
She focuses on non-invasive procedures, female sexual health, and vaginal regenerative medicine.
So we met because we've been doing this tour where we speak to doctors and practitioners
about a whole range of issues women normalize, which we don't want them to normalize.
We want women to understand that a lot of their suffering, they don't have to go through
it and how it impacts their lives and how to communicate about their issues.
We've been attending these conferences like four or five of them.
Yeah.
Carolyn, right?
They always have us follow each other, which I love, because our energy is similar,
and we have the same special interest in women.
Do.
Give me a little snap as to what you talk about,
because I haven't even talked about,
to my listeners about this at all.
What I talk about when we go to these conferences
is ways for women to address issues that arise
throughout our entire sexual life.
So starting with childbirth, feeling vaginal laxity,
loss of sensation within the course,
and as we age, urinary incontinence, vaginal atrophy,
and moving right through our menopausal years,
and the effects that these changes have
on our everyday life.
Women with urinary incontinence will suffer a insecurity and inhibition to be free with
their sexual partners for fear of leaking urine.
Let alone when we go to the gym wearing boys, you know, there are more adult diapers sold
by 2020.
If we don't change what's happening there will be more adult
diapers sold in the United States than there are baby diapers if people who don't
know what urinary incontinence is can you explain that absolutely oh my goodness
they know what the funny thing is we all have it right so there's not a time
when group of women don't get together and we make each other laugh and we all say oh my gosh
Don't make me laugh. I'm gonna be my pants, and the that is urinary incontinence
We're not supposed to leak urine if we laugh right we're not supposed to leak urine when we're on the virgin
We have our hand on the door not the bathroom. We're not supposed to leak urine. And that's urinary.
So we have urinary stress incontinence
and urinary urge incontinence.
The urge is, I gotta go, I gotta go right now
and you have your hand on the door and up
and you just can't get there quickly enough
and you leak urinary stress incontinence
is when you get on the trampoline with your kids
and you're leaking all over the place.
So you don't go on the trampoline with your kids
and you don't go to the gym without wearing a pantyliner
or a poise because if you do a jumping jack,
you're gonna lose your urine.
So even if you've just emptied, that is the issue.
I mean, we always win, and we've all gone through these
more like three days.
We have.
We try our darnedest not to let this happen,
but it happens.
It does happen. And it happens. It does happen.
And it can really impact our lives with or without having
carried children just with gravity.
With gravity, the older you get, it's true that it happens.
And we don't even know that there are solutions.
We do this conference and I talk about how to talk to
your female patients, there's OBGYNs there that
who meds about their vagina.
How to feel comfortable talking to women about their sexual health, their own pleasure,
because women tend to normalize so much pain, so much suffering they have around sex.
80% of women experience pain at some point, or they can't have orgasms, or they have low
libido, and I'm telling you women walk around thinking my pleasure is not important.
Or it's okay, or I guess everyone must feel pain, and we don't talk about it.
So I know, as I've been telling, I know, until I learned all of this stuff,
I feel like the one doctor I've gone to every year,
religiously, is I go once a year to my god-of-life
gynecologist, and it was like this.
I'd go in, put my feet up and serve, I get the pap smear,
I get it back, even normal pap,
and then usually they said,
you have sex, how is your sexual partners?
Are you using protection?
And that's, that was it.
And I was like, okay, bye, I'm out. You know if there's something wrong
He did let me know usually there wasn't and I left and I didn't really know any other questions to ask now
If they had ever sent to me like how is your sex drive or do you have orgasms or do you are you feeling desire?
Here's how your birth control my nip at you. I would have I would have asked those questions or maybe it would have
No, but there was never anything
about my sex life.
So I think I used to think that I was sexually healthy because I was going to the gynecologist,
but that's really not what sexual health is.
So can you kind of talk about how that's changed or what you'd like?
I'm thinking about how that's changed and also maybe what, give advice for some listeners
about if they are going to see their gynecologist, no matter what age they are, what are some
great questions they should be asking?
Absolutely, Emily, so well put.
Let me just tell you that women do not ask the questions
they should, and like you said, they normalize their
suffering.
They think, oh, well, I guess this is normal in quotations.
It's not normal not to enjoy sex.
It's not normal to leak urine. It's not normal to have pain with intercourse no matter what age you are
And we can address those issues women don't realize there are answers
They don't even know they can ask the question right and I have to tell you that the physicians on the whole are afraid to ask the questions
as well.
It's not just the patient's fault.
It's also the physician's fault.
And I wish that more gynecologists were open.
And I hope they're listening that they will open up to women and understand that we have
questions, we have needs.
I hear every day women as they age.
Oh, it hurts so much.
I just don't have sex with my husband anymore.
I tell him go elsewhere.
Well, let me listen.
I tell my ladies, you know what?
You give him a hall pass.
He's taking it.
Right.
You know, you're saying go elsewhere.
Guess what? He's going it, right? You know, you're saying go elsewhere. Guess what?
He's going elsewhere.
Exactly.
So, if you really don't want him to,
don't say that.
That's true.
Okay, so here's my question.
They're going back to why don't the doctors?
Why don't they go into colleges?
Why are they afraid of women asking questions?
It says uncomfortable for the doctor as it is for the patient.
And there are so many physicians
who are uncomfortable with going into sexual health even though it's their business. And
the majority of them to this day do not realize there are solutions. And that's the saddest
part. That's why we're here today. That's why we speak around the nation.
And that's why you are where you are today because women need this kind of outlet and information.
Yeah, they really do.
I feel like we're shrouded in mystery, like this vagina and the sacks and the hormones and
birth control.
And we're just like all trying to figure it out.
And so you're right.
So they're afraid they don't want to get into it because maybe they don't even have
the answers.
They don't have the answers.
Now how much sexual health training did you have in medical school?
I had none.
I had one lecture from...
You swear I've always heard.
I'm telling you from Ruth Vestimer and that's where I learned...
No!
And to this day she's my hero.
I'm telling you and it is a crime of what goes on in this day and age.
And it has to be addressed and we have solutions and that's the beauty of it.
So I mean, and this is exactly so I love that you're saying this because I came into this.
They asked me to go speak at theseences they do everywhere and they said to me
BTL aesthetics I mean they have amazing equipment
They do
BTL is amazing technology that can help women they do a lot of different cosmetic services, but also for women
Forever, China is it help with incontinence and so they asked me they said we
We don't know if you tried our products. That's cool. Those are your services. Just go in and we're gonna have rooms filled with doctors and meds
Bows. We like how you talk about sex to your listeners Emily and your audience
Can you just kind of let them know how to communicate and how to talk about so that's kind of why I'm here
But since I've been going to these in different cities
I've just been blown away and I've learned so much about these solutions and the options
What are we've been missing like what are the solutions The beauty of this whole situation is that it is the biggest exploding area in medicine
today.
Women's sexual health are back.
Women's sexual health, but what they call it is cosmetic gynecology.
And the issue there, the only reason why it falls into this ridiculous category is because we use
tools that are known and used for cosmetic procedures.
So we're using lasers, we're using radio frequency to help the tissues of the vagina keep their
youthfulness and we use platelet-rich plasma, which is the portion of our blood
that has all our growth factors.
And these are areas that are typically used
in cosmetics procedures.
So we fall into this cosmetic category
and it gets unrecognized by the generalist
or the general OB-GYN who doesn't tell you that it's not
another work.
You have another job.
And you're training.
Yeah.
And this area, you have an in all sincerity, I encourage anybody to go and get appropriately
trained through the American Esthetic Association and through the Cellular Medicine Association
or the International Society of Regenerative Medicine.
And these are organizations where we teach
other physicians worldwide how to address these issues
using these new tools, whether they be laser,
whether they be radio frequency,
whether they be electromagnetic energy.
B-T-L has come out with it's a company
that has made devices that use radio frequency
to rejuvenate the face and to rejuvenate the abdominal skin,
but now we can rejuvenate the area around the vagina
as well as strengthen the muscle of the pelvic floor, the the cradle of civilization.
Our pelvic muscles are where it all begins, isn't it?
Yes.
So that's where we have to strengthen those muscles.
And we've been telling women all our lives, kegel, kegel, kegel, kegel, kegel.
And the bottom line is none of us know how to do it.
None of us do it enough.
We're supposed to do 100 kg a day.
And I know, right this second, me and Emily are kiggling it.
You know why?
Because that's what women do.
If we're reminded, we do a kiggle.
That's it.
That's the only time we do it.
Right, exactly.
We forget to do it all the rest of the time.
We never do it efficiently.
We're supposed to hold that contraction for 10 seconds.
Let's be real.
I used to be your butt too much. Oh, none be real. I used to be sure, but too much.
I know it's hard.
I even iPhone app, I'll caggle camp because I made it six years ago.
And it reminds you of doing them every single day.
But even that sometimes for some people, it's just at least it's on, it's your consciousness
because it's really hard to remember.
And for a lot of women, it won't even be enough.
Exactly.
And I wanted just before we get into these, these, these, these, because I haven't blown
away by how it's saving women's lives, women having better sex again.
I wanted to kind of differentiate between like, because people here have this thing, they
think, oh, labia plastic, it's because I don't like my labia.
So let me go in and chop chop.
It's not that.
No, no, no.
So we're not talking about surgery.
Because you, we're not talking about surgery.
No.
We're talking about rejuvenating collagen.
So women don't have pain.
So women have more lubrication and all that stuff.
Exactly.
So I just want to clarify that because I'm not
forward the surgery for women for labor.
I really think that all the gynos are beautiful.
They are.
Our volvos are beautiful.
They are.
I'm talking about helping women have more pleasure.
Yes.
And so let's get to the surgery.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Issue of vaginal labiaplasty where women come in and they say,
I don't think I look
normal down there okay and it breaks my heart because there's not one of us who
isn't abnormal we're all normal there's nobody abnormal and the best
honestly the best example I have is the artwork in London called the Great Wall of
Viginus. If you have never seen that artwork, please Google it right this
second. The Great Wall of Viginus, the artist literally took 400 plaster
molds of women's vaginas.
And God bless those 400 women
who sat there with plaster on there, VJJ.
Letting him take a cast.
And it is immortalized on a wall in London.
There are 40 plaques,
up and down this hallway 4400
China's a 400 the China's and let me tell you you will find one similar to yourself
But never you you know why we're like snowflakes. We are like snowflakes
I always say that we're all so different love your body each and unique and have you ever seen one penis that looks exactly like the other
No, not you have not And have you ever seen one penis that looks exactly like the other? No, not enough.
No, not enough.
But we have not seen one.
Right.
So we've not.
We come in all shapes and sizes and so do men.
And we are all snowflakes.
There's no two alike.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
So women who come in and say, my labia are too Lord, I ask them, why do you think that?
Why does this even come into your mind?
Right.
And a lot of them stereotypically, there are quote unquote norms by culture.
And that may be because of pornographic photos or because of just knowledge from their
friends.
I mean, the other way is even how you groom yourself.
I've seen every range.
I have seen every decoration.
I've seen every shape inside of hair.
Literally, this is 92.
I mean, you've seen a lot.
How would it have been to Betsy, yes, I have.
You could have your own vaginal wallet.
They all those vaginas.
You can have thousands.
It is not an image I care to keep them out.
No offense.
No offense.
No, it's a lot of gender.
It's a lot of gender.
It's a lot of gender.
It's a lot of gender.
So, okay, so here's my account of my brain.
I have so many questions.
Because what I want to know is since 92 then, which is a long time ago, I mean that's
something I started doing the big
note, but I, you know, I try to think about the key.
Yeah, please, I love that you say that.
Yes, college.
You should see how gorgeous it is.
Okay, you are so gorgeous.
I'm looking at you going, oh my God.
So I want you to be beautiful.
You guys both going to think pictures.
But I want to know, how has it changed?
How has women's questions in sexual health change?
I'm wearing number one to one question is, do you think since porn, so I'm doing my show
for 13 years and I have to say right about then, 2005.
I'd say about 2006, 2007, when it was like porn, oh my god, it's everywhere.
So I think that's when it got on the smartphones.
Right.
I kind of started seeing a difference, but do you feel like that's when we was laby blast your people worrying about the labies
Did people come into you with that in the 90s?
No never see that it is never and the bottom line is
No pun intended that women are now more aware of
What they think we're supposed to look like. No male looks like those male porn stars.
Hello, have I ever seen a gentleman like that?
No, honestly, no.
So those are ideals, supposedly, by culture.
That's our culture that thinks the pornographic stars
are what's ideal, quote, a little slit,
whatever they think, You know what?
Does it matter?
No.
None of it.
And you know what?
I don't think in all sincerity when it comes to the bedroom, when it comes to that
intimate moment, I don't think it matters.
It doesn't matter.
Whether our labia are five centimeters, as if you pull it out or two centimeters or non-existent.
Honestly, it's not impacting your ability to pleasure.
It's fine, so let that go, you guys.
If you want to long,
when you have confidence in the bedroom,
you walk into that bedroom and you're with or you're lover
and you guys know how I feel about masturbation,
you're masturbating, you understand your body,
you know how to orgasm, you feel good,
that's the sexiest thing in the world.
And nobody's looking, if you are really orgasm, you feel good, that's the sexiest thing in the world. And no one is looking.
If you are really turned on and you're bringing your full feminine energy and you're turned
on self into that situation no matter who you are with a man or woman and you are like,
you're in your body, that's the sexiest thing in the world.
No one's going, oh, what's with this weird, whatever they talk about, clitoris or so
that's my one question.
The other one is superficial about pubic hair.
I'm just because I know I started doing the Brazilian
in the mid 90s.
But before that, I had a moderate bush.
I have to say.
Yeah.
So when you say you've seen all different types,
have you seen that change?
I have seen to this day, a day I go in the office, any given day,
I can see a mid 20ies with completely ungrouped.
I can see a mid-twenties, not a hair-on-er, who gets waxed, who gets lasered.
There's not a hair-on-er.
I can see a 30-year-old, same variance.
It doesn't matter what age group,
we completely cover the range.
We have, I call it landing strip, it's a little...
Right, I'm just, you here.
Right, right.
At the apex, whether it's a strip or a little triangle,
whatever.
What's the strangest, what's the most interesting
vaginal, people care of shape you've seen?
Oh, well, those who do the design,
like actually put a name in it, right, people do that. It would last long though, yeah. Oh, well, those who do the design line, like actually put a name in it.
Right. People do that. It would last long though. Yeah. Oh, sure.
Did they go, oh, doctor, just by the way, this is my boyfriend or whatever.
Exactly. That's a fun weather. I'm just glad. I'm curious.
I'm curious. I think do you. I think it's not about what your partner wants. It's about what you want.
It's how we feel secure and sexual about ourselves at that moment.
That confidence is what we are trying to maintain and assure in all women.
And I think that's true of you and of me in every aspect of what we do every day.
What do you tell women who are like, I'm just not in the mood for sex.
I have low libido.
I know I had a kid or well, the very very very first thing I do is check their testosterone level.
Unfortunately, our ovaries make two hormones.
We make, well we make three hormones.
We make estrogen, we make progesterone and we make testosterone.
And as we age, over 30, women will drop testosterone level 1% per year and
testosterone is a very underestimated hormone in women and it is what gives us libido It is what gives our clitoris sensation and when that is kaput when our ovaries go
Blinkers and we that's it. So that level can hit a native at any age.
Okay.
So some women, it isn't until they're 55.
In other women, it's when they're 35.
Is it humanitarian or is it because they're a child?
It could be because the medication has no idea.
Why are hormones still so shrouded in mystery?
I feel like they run everything that they're such an important part of our systems,
our endocrine system, our hormones, the way it all works,
and it's still so confusing to us.
So, we don't quite know.
And the technology is one of the most complicated,
fields of medicine.
I have to tell you, when I was a resident,
I was absolutely petrified of hormones,
and it's what ran everything in gynecology.
So our entire body has feedback loops, which means that if one hormone is high, it stops
the stimulation of the thyroid, it's tied into the pituitary, the pituitary, it's tied
into the ovaries, the ovaries are tied into the adrenal glands, the adrenal glands are tied into the ovaries
and it's like it's a mass kind of
Telephone wires. It's like when you have those cable lines and you're moving and you're like, I don't know what goes to what?
Yeah, and that's the way endocrinology is in our body and
The important thing is that as we age if if a woman comes into me with completely no
libido, the very first thing I have to do is rule out a deficiency and test-toss-wrong.
Sometimes it's there.
Sometimes it's not.
If it's not there, then we do have to look into more of a psychological aspect of their
life.
They may not be feeling good about themselves.
They may not like their partner.
You have no idea how many times I say,
you don't wanna have sex with your husband.
Nope, I'm not interested in sex at all.
I said, do you like him?
And they say, oh, he's really nope, nope, nope.
And that's the saddest part.
It's a lot of times, it is psychological as a fact
that they're in a place in life.
And I said, well, what about George Clooney?
If he locked up, he went to the store
and went, you're kicking out of bed free and crackers.
And when they say no, and I said, well,
how do you feel when you're alone?
How do you feel when you masturbate?
We can't be afraid to ask those questions.
Right. How is it when you're alone? How is it when you are masturbating? Right. Exactly.
And if they say, Oh, yeah, then I'm fine. Hello, they're not low on the read. I've never
got low on testosterone. Right. This is see these are just simple questions. I've never had a go on testosterone. Right.
These are just simple questions.
I've never had a go on a call.
They've only asked me if I use condoms or birth control pills.
Literally that's it.
I guess.
But we're also women just to go.
So I think that most women probably, at least our women in the United States can relate
to, I've listened to all over the world, but I would think that that's my been in my
experience.
I've gone to good doctors in San Francisco.
Yes, of course.
No, no, no, we're not.
So what?
And then do you ever say to women,
though, couldn't a lot of it be what medications are?
So let's talk about antidepressants and birth control
pellet and their impact on libido.
Absolutely.
So we'll start with birth control pills.
We don't know how birth control pill will affect libido.
I can tell you that post-pondom after my first child,
I was breastfeeding and eventually I
started a birth control pill.
I thought I was dead from the waist down.
And I literally said, I cannot live like this.
This is not how I was before I had my pregnancy.
And I did not have a vaginal birth.
I had a cistern section.
So I will be then.
You were like, it was 29.
Right.
And I completely lost sensation, desire, and it was agonizing.
It was all about breastfeeding, which is a time when women don't realize that they will
feel that appausal.
And it's also a time when if you do start a birth control pill, it can take away your
libido.
So every pill is different.
They have different androgenic we call it, effects, meaning feeling like a testosterone.
And when those are higher in the pill, we may have better libido, or if that's lower,
we may have none.
It may take away our
desire completely. The SSRIs, the antidepressants that fall into that grand
category. So let's select a paxle, effects, sir, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, all of
those every day used antidepressants and since 9-11 unfortunately the majority of
women are on some form of SSR-1 out of 5. It's um yeah 2 out of 5. I think it's more like 2 out of 5.
The bottom line is that we'll take away libido and thank goodness we have
procedures like the OSHA. There's an excellent editorial in the Elite Daily
by one of my patients who does use an antidepressant,
had lost her libido, she's in her mid-30s,
she came into the V-spot, we did the Oshot,
which is platelet-rich plasma,
directly injected into the G-spot
and the clitoris painlessly otherwise I've heard I know
and she is what tell me unbelievable response
yeah so it returned her to normal function and she was able to enjoy her
relationship again let's talk about selling we get back from the break I'm with
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And Viva Rejuvenate, where I do all the same things,
if not more.
Let's talk about the MCELE because to me,
that is a mind-breaking technology.
My boy.
The MCELE is the most simple device ever created for women
that has absolutely changed our lives.
And what it is, it's an electromagnetic chair.
You simply sit on it,
what does electromagnetic energy mean?
I don't know.
It is an MRI magnet, and it creates an energy field
that makes our muscles in our pelvis contract.
Really strongly.
So I kid that after sitting on the MCElla
as prescribed,
which is twice a week for three weeks,
and each minute, and you sit with your clothes on.
Let me just tell you, I sat on it to try it.
It's kind of good.
It feels great.
And you sit and you could feel it pulling,
but it's not painful, you could sit and read.
And it takes a few treatments,
and it just, let's talk about what,
well, that's the V-Spot we've got.
Netflix hooked up and you just chill and have your muscles
rejuvenated.
The issue, we are going back to that Kegel X
or something.
Yes, we never do it, right?
We never do it efficiently.
This machine, this chair that you sit on fully clothed,
totally comfortably, reading magazines, watching Netflix,
will have you kagled 11,200 times in 28 minutes,
and that rehabilitates, basically rebuilds
our pelvic floor muscles, and I will tell you,
the muscles that go from, I'm gonna be descriptive ladies,
the muscles that go from my anus to my pubic bone.
Clinically they're called the iliocascus, because it's the muscles.
And those muscles, I don't even know if I had them anymore.
They are on 56 years old and they are back to full power.
And I don't even know how I had them.
So now the beauty of this is this is
the only device in the United States FDA approved for the treatment of
urinary incontinence and we went into that in the first half of our chat that
urinary incontinence is extremely common issue where women lose urine. So this
device by sitting on it for 28 minutes, twice a week
for three weeks, rehabilitate those muscles, give us the ability to clench down and stop
leakage. Now that's just the way it's labeled. What are the other benefits? Now this is totally women chat woman to woman
We take control we are able to control those muscles so at intimate moments
When we may be super turned on a little bit more honestly a little bit more lubricated than maybe we'd like for our partner
So it makes you more lubricated. No, but we can clench down. So our partner will then again feel friction. Wow. You take control of that moment. And if women have never
kegled during sex, I highly recommend it. It's amazing. It's so much fun. It intensifies our
pleasure. It intensifies their pleasure. And this gives you a mega cagal.
So ITs that I can now crack a wall, not with my cagal.
I've never tried it, I'm kidding.
But darn it, my cagal's much stronger.
I don't even know I had these muscles.
Yeah, and they will weaken for every woman.
Like, no matter how many years after you're vulnerable.
It's like everything else, like get wrinkles,
you get these fall, you're breast.
If we don't go to the gym and we don't do biceps,
what happens to our biceps?
Right, nothing.
You know, we are skin-acquired.
Yeah, it happens.
What happens to our quads?
What happens to our abs?
If we don't exercise the muscle, it atrophies.
Right, exactly.
And this is the muscle you guys,
so I've talked about it,
but you kind of pumped, even if you guys,
if your muscles may be very strong,
I mean, if you're someone who does a lot of core
and you do a lot of Pilates
or you do a lot of yoga, you might be good.
And I hope so, but what you need to know is that if you,
if you pump those muscles, they will intensify your orgasm.
That's right.
And your orgasm and your partner could feel it, too.
It's, you're right.
And so that's, and people are more lubricated
from the MSL, too.
Of course.
And it's by accident, really.
I mean, they're not at all on label for any of this.
This is like, these are all the by accident side effects
of the wonderful technology.
Well, this chair, I would like to say this
because I just read this to everyone talked about the state
which blew my mind and this might be a little teaser here.
I heard that the MCL2 chair was approved
for male erectile dysfunction in Canada.
It is.
I mean, to me, if men could solve erectile dysfunction, no more pills.
Right.
They just sit on this machine.
It is.
It's exploring my mind.
That is exactly right.
And this is well established in Europe already.
There always a little ahead of us.
Okay.
Because they don't have our blessed FDA, which does protect our public from devices
that might be dangerous.
However, with those protective agencies in our country,
it takes a little longer to get things on the market
and get it approved.
But yes, in Canada,
they were already using this chair for men.
They said I had several men try the chair today
because they are male physicians.
And this is our success tour with BTO and we're sharing these devices and ideas.
And I wanted these male physicians to feel the contractility, the really powerful, super
maximal contraction of their pelvic muscles and how it impacts their erectile
function.
When they say, they all blush.
They, you know, they love sitting in the chair.
I love sitting in the chair.
I love sitting in the chair.
I love sitting in the chair.
I love sitting in the chair.
It's so funny.
And they go, he, they're everyone, you know, all the men, women, giggle.
And the reason is that the increased contractility, the muscle tone, will increase blood flow to the area,
and that blood flow goes where the area of least resistance,
which is our clitoris or our penis.
So in men, it'll improve their rectile function,
and women it improves our sensation,
in addition to improving the muscle tone,
which of course it's one FDA clearance,
and it's the only guys cleared for your new con.
I mean, I think that's gonna be game changing.
It's called EBS, if you're loud, you're like,
where is it?
They probably might have it,
where you live, EMSELLA.
Just Google it in New York,
you have to go see Dr. D'Aleusha.
Should women just, like when they leave their doctor,
we have to they give birth, they leave the hospital,
and they're told six weeks and you're good to go.
You can have sex again.
And so I think a lot of women who aren't ready
after six weeks, and their partners are counting down,
and they're not feeling it,
or maybe it doesn't come back,
because they're breastfeeding like,
what, why so much misinformation?
And what could we tell these,
is there anything else that we know about
that these women could do, or like you said,
they get checked out, they get their hormones checked.
I guess it's the Aspor questions, right?
Go see, they're gonna have elders like what?
I think the biggest issue is that there's lack of communication
and post-partum symptoms that, first of all,
let's face it, we're exhausted.
We have a newborn baby who's draining all our energy from our breasts.
Let alone our physical rest.
There is no sleep when you have a brand new baby.
The baby doesn't know night from day and we are exhausted.
Honestly, I tell my patients that it's typically five years after a child is born before you start
to feel yourself again.
Wow.
And that's the reality.
Having experienced it myself and looking back on the experience, it is truly five years
before.
And it's also physical.
It's our physical, the laxity of our skin on our abdomen,
the laxity of our vagina.
And sometimes that never comes back.
And all of these changes that occur in our body,
it is not instantly over.
We don't just like sleep bags.
Absolutely. We're never the like step back. Absolutely.
We're never the same as we were.
So let's talk about something that women can do at home.
I've been talking a lot about Apex.
Okay.
I love the Apex.
And you know about, okay, so tell me a little bit.
Well, I think that the company that makes Apex is wonderful.
And what the device does, is it allows women to feel
Kegel exercises without actually doing them so it's kind of like that thing that you if you're up at two in the morning
And you look on TV and they're selling on KVC the thing that makes your abdomen contract. Yeah, I bought that one
When I was like flat abs much eating pizza
and some of you. Anyway, when I was like,
flat abs, much de-needing pizza.
That's exactly right.
But this is better than that.
It will make your pelvic floor muscles contract at home,
and it's fabulous to maintain the efficacy
of these other treatments that we have
and specifically the amcella chair.
So what can women do in between treatments?
Can they maintain it without having to go
for a maintenance treatment of the MCElla?
And this may be the answer.
So I, all families send my patients home
with an apex or an intensity.
The intensity adds a little.
I love the intensity.
It's a little vibrate.
Oh, so cute.
I got one.
I got one.
I get to my home.
Absolutely. I was obsessed. Oh, it was a little meditation thing. I'd go cute. I got one. I got one. I got one. I got one.
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I got one. I got one. I got one. I got one? I was like, I was doing the guggles really strong. Yes, and it's basically, it's biofeedback at home.
It makes your muscles contract and it maintains.
So once you get that complete efficacy of the intense muscles
from the amcella, you may maintain it
with something like the apex or the intensity and both of these devices will
Oh, yeah, I give you all my procedures absolutely absolutely I work with them all the time this company that makes
Fabulous devices and it inflates to fit the vagina
Yeah, that's the pump. Oh, no, it's you because you can't mess up the Kaggle doing this
That's right. No, it's impossible. It's impossible
So you people get even started they can't get to the chair. They could do this as well
They could do this at home. I always try whenever I do any procedure for incontinence
I always send them home with one of these devices so that they can do this at home and
Hopefully they won't need me anymore
But if they still do,
I've got a whole armantarium for them.
Exactly, I know.
So what about you?
So now you have this,
I think I'd never seen,
when I went to your site,
I'd never seen like this.
I mean, maybe they have an LA.
I think this vagina's,
but like they don't.
They really don't.
I mean, I feel like this should be like
the starbucks of feminine health.
I think it should be one and every quarter
because women, we're trying. No, I really do. I was like, oh my like the Starbucks of feminine health I think it should be one and every quarter because women we're trying no, I really do
I was like oh my god all these things it because I think that women
We're just again. We've got one appointment a year and we have we we get the wrong messages and we're suffering the rest of the time
Not all of us you guys I'm not telling I hope you're having amazing sex
I really do all the time
But for most of the women I know at different points in their lives
They could just be could just be PMS. It could be childbirth. it could be depression, it could be getting, you know, paramanopausal,
whatever it is, breath can help out. There is something that women have some challenges
around their vagina and they literally have nowhere to go because their gynecologist
might not help them. So to me, if you had little like, pop up, you know, the airport,
the little massage place is like, I see this because it's 50% of the population. Yeah,
yeah, it might want an oh shot at lunch or a V-tighten
or sit on the chair and I just see this is like so inspiring
because my, and I think this is yours too,
but I want women to like take control of their own sexuality
and take control of their bodies and to have the best sex
that they can have.
Like what do you,
because you must be after you've got just focusing
on gynecology into this world,
your mind just must be like,
blonde like don't you just, I am I out there with all of this?
I'll tell you that I've been on my soapbox for four years trying to get the word out that
these procedures are available, that they work, and that women can have them.
And it is a 24 hour job. What? Yeah.
And it's so difficult to get the word out
that they're even available.
And I think that the V-Spot being such a safe haven
for women to come and have this is,
it's unfortunately very unique situation.
And we are going to be opening up many more
Locations throughout we're gonna start him and hat and of course and then spread out through the nation and then
God will I think yeah, I mean that's exactly what I'm thinking and we try to be up on whatever is new
Particularly in this field for women sexual health. Yeah, I think that you're doing a great job I think that we I want to circle back to this because just getting to know you and listening to all these doctors and speakers
I've been kind of like I want everyone to know this or tell me what are some of the other
Options I know we talked about the O shot and the amcella can you explain to me how it actually works these
Absolutely, so I actually treat my patients with a whole gamut of procedures.
And so, we've already touched upon OSHA, which is the availability and the usage of platelet
rich plasma, which was a trademark procedure developed by Dr. Charles Rennel's.
And it is absolutely phenomenal for increasing sensation
and as well as in the clitoris and the G spot as well
as improvement in urinary incontinence.
In and of itself.
Then there's the MCELLA, which of course
is our electromagnetic chair for development
of our pelvic muscles, our cradle of civility.
Now, then we move on to the layer of the vagina,
the first layer of our skin.
It's like a little bit different than the inside
of our mouth, but not like our face.
So it's kind of in between that kind of tissue
is the vaginal wall.
And that layer of skin is treated by lasers today.
We either have an urbium laser
or we have carbon dioxide lasers.
These lasers both will treat a very superficial layer,
but their efficacy will be to improve
and the results that women get will be improved lubrication,
as well as new collagen and elastin and blood vessels,
all in the vaginal wall, which in turn end up
improving urinary incontinence as well as vaginal tone. So it brings back the ability to cling
to what's penetrating. If you actually were able to measure the diameter of a vagina, we may not see a change, but it's the new tissue
in the walls that give its ability to feel like it's clinging.
So there's an increased friction, which gives an improved sensation of the blood.
It's like laxity for women.
That's right.
So it's collagen.
It's new collagen in the mass and our tissues that help us give that tone to the wall and brings us back to a new rubber
band from being an overstressed rubber band after childbirth.
The radio frequency now is actually radio waves.
Those are the same thing that we hear on our radio every day.
But when they hit tissue, it's not a laser, it's
color blind, doesn't matter if there's pigment in our skin. When radio
frequency hits our tissue, it's called impedance. It kind of hits a blocked
wall. And what happens then is the water in our tissue starts to spin. That's
spinning and we're 70% water. So when that radio
frequency hits our skin, our water starts to spin and that creates warmth. That heat
then tends to rejuvenate our collagen in our last and at a deeper level, even then are laser.
So immediately after a radio frequency treatment, you will feel a edema or a swelling of the
area.
So immediately you feel like you're tighter.
That's not real, that's going to pass.
But it sure is fun.
Last.
Right.
Hey, let's not, you know, I tell you the truth.
It's good for you.
There's not a lot of side effects.
Like this is a debtor, right?
There's no known side effects long term
for any of these procedures documented worldwide.
And this is the important part.
A lot of these devices have been out in other countries
for many years.
Again, no FDA.
So the bottom line is the radio frequency will treat a deeper layer and
create ending and lasting results that are well established at six months down the road and will last for years after that. So the immediate feeling is transient, it's not going to last, but still
fun while it lasts. And then we have the long term effect, six months down the road, and
how long that lasts is as long as it takes our buddy body to age that new tissue. So that's
radio frequency. So we have. So that's radio frequency.
So we have lasers, we have radio frequency,
we have electromagnetic energy for the chair,
and we have platelet rich plasma,
which is our own body's elixir of life
to regenerate new tissue and sensation.
Yeah, because our vagina, it is the,
would you say the elixir of life,
the mother or cartil of life,
what does she say?
It is. It is. It's a cradle of life. What does she say? It is.
It is.
It is.
It is.
It is.
It is my vision.
We don't feel good in our vagina.
It's really hard to kind of feel good in other areas of our life.
It really is.
So here's my question for you.
You started to say this earlier, but you've been for four years.
You've been out there trying to get the word out.
And now I'm like, I tell all my friends since I started coming to these, I mean, because
I gave the calls
and I haven't actually brought it into the show as much,
but that's why I love having you here to talk about it.
I want everyone to know.
I want my friends who are like, what do I do?
I had kids, I don't feel like it.
I'm not trying to know about these things.
So why can't we get, I'm trying.
I don't read about it.
If I didn't go to mean, you really got a dig.
Yeah.
Just starting to feel like there's more options now
But just the last few years. Yeah, but what is it once again?
The one stumbling block that we have is that all of these procedures fall into a cosmetic category
And that's really the Achilles heel here the problem is that the general OB-GYN has never dealt with a laser.
It's completely far into an regular GYN. I happen to be open to it and it
walked through my door very very serendipitously. The bottom line is that I had already
started using lasers for laser hair reduction
because I stopped doing obstetrics to raise my children and to increase my bottom line.
This is what women were doing so we tried the laser hair reduction in my practice.
So that was a gateway. You got it right.
And so they came through my door and said we have a laser that can change the nature of the vaginal wall and can improve urinary incontinence.
I said, you are speaking my language. Who are you and what can you do?
And that was the opening to this world, but the general obi-ju-ian still thinks I'm off my rocker. They do, right? I know.
And it's just because it's a laser is completely foreign.
The only way we ever used a laser was to evaporate external warts, general warts that were
outside the vagina.
And that was a horrifying experience.
It left burns.
These women went through to it.
So that's the only exposure that routine OB-GYNs have ever had with a laser it's foreign and
scary to them so unfortunately this entire cosmetic category because these
tools fall into that it's kind of a barrier to entry for them it it's
overwhelming and we need some documented clinical trials
because in the United States,
we are evidence-based medicine and patients,
well, what do the studies show?
And they want to be able to show that,
and there are studies out there, and they're growing.
So I think it is.
I have hope, I have great hope,
that this will become mainstream. And I will tell you, They're growing. I have hope. I need to. I need to. I need to.
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Dr. Carolyn Delusia, thank you so much
for being on the show.
And for just really inspiring,
I think that there's gonna be a lot of men
and women listening to this show
who are gonna realize that they have options
and they're gonna realize that actually
they have the right to pleasure
and to having better sex
and there's ways for them to have it.
So thank you for this
and thank you to everyone for listening to the show.
Thanks to my amazing team, thank you to Ken,
Jamie, Sarah, and Michael, and thanks everyone
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