Sex With Emily - "What Happens When You Stop Reacting and Start Responding"

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:47 I know her crazy and I know the way our we function is a unit. Like I know. If I got to go to the airport, I got to tell her it's a half hour before. And then I know she might be. make it on time. And if not, she's going to have to pee before we leave. So I'll be right there is at least 15 minutes. So you just got to learn how to communicate. I'll be right there. You're listening to Sex with Emily. I'm Dr. Emily, and I'm here to help you prioritize your pleasure and liberate the conversation around sex. Today, I'm talking with comedian Adam Ferrara about
Starting point is 00:01:21 the communication skills that have kept his long-term marriage thriving. We're diving into the messy realities of relationships. How to stop walking on eggshells around your partner? Why worry isn't the same as responsibility and what it really takes to choose responding overreacting when your emotions are running high. Adams shares his journey with anxiety, ADD, and learning to separate his thoughts from his identity through meditation and therapy. We'll also help a caller navigate a tough situation.
Starting point is 00:01:48 She's losing sexual attraction to her boyfriend of two years, despite loving everything else about him, and she's been messaging someone else for that missing spark, we'll explore whether sexual chemistry can be built or if some relationships are missing that essential foundation. My intention is to show you that great relationships aren't about perfection. They're about two people willing to learn each other's patterns, communicate clearly about their needs, and keep choosing to do the work together. All right, let's get into it. I love when Adam Frera's on the show, he's the host of the Adam Ferreira podcast, 30 minutes you'll never get back. It feels like five.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That's how good he is, right? Emily Morris, of course, is one of my favorite episodes, and I'm glad you had me back, sweetheart. Thank you for you. Oh, I love it. I love being on yours. We did a podcast swap. You know, we did do that. But Adam, we're going to take a call.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We can help out Brianna 25 in California. Adam's in a successful marriage, and I've got some years here to help. What's going on, Brianna? How can we help you? I am kind of in a predicament here. I recently broke up with my boyfriend, got back together with him the next day, because I felt like it was a wrong decision. But the reason why I did in the first place was because I, as shallow as it sounds, and it makes me so sad, is that I'm just losing sexual, like, attraction to him. I feel like our chemistry in the bedroom is just off.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I've tried telling him, like, hey, I want you to be more confident and aggressive. And he's tried and bless his heart. I love that about him, but it's just, like, it's not happening. I know it sounds bad. I kind of have been messaging this guy. And, like, I don't see that guy as, like, relationship material. I'm just getting that, like, sexual, like, teasing, like, satisfaction. And it makes me feel, and I love, I love my boyfriend so much.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And, like, that's why it's kind of like, oh, okay. Like, I decided to, like, stop doing that first of all. But, like, I want to, like, work on that part of our relationship because literally, like, everything is perfect about this guy, except he's not, like, my typical type. And the sex is just not there. I get it. Brianna, let me just tell you this. So you're 25 years old. You've been together two years, you said.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And let me just tell you, this is what happens in a lot of relationships. Most relationships, by the time you get to two years. there won't be as much of that passion and that excitement and that chemistry you had at the beginning of the relationship. That's what happens. And so what couples, what I do is I help couples figure out, well, what, how do you talk about, how do you communicate about sex? So the thing is, I'll bet that he wants to do, I bet he wants to be more.
Starting point is 00:04:32 What did you say more aggressive or more assertive? He doesn't know how. Like you guys are still, you know, you're 25 figuring it out. And so is there a way that you could, if you want it? And I appreciate, I know what you're saying too. I was you when I was 25 and I wish. someone told me that this is what happens in relationships and you have to choose to work on it or not. You know, so I think that it's always attractive when you're dating someone. Like this
Starting point is 00:04:54 would happen to me. I date someone for two years and this is common and then you meet someone else. And then they're really into you. And then they make you, you get that excitement, those butterflies, that newness that you did not feel early on. You don't feel anymore with your boyfriend. So you think, well, it must be this guy. So I got to tell you it's not probably about the other guy. So either you have two choices here. I would say you could go back to your wife, which you did. And you could choose to say, you know what, I realize that we both could work on this together. I don't need to tell you that you need to just start initiating or doing different things because you have to learn it together. And then you could say, let's figure out together
Starting point is 00:05:27 what feels good to both of us. You go to my website, we have something called a yes, no, maybe list. You could download. It helps couples figure out what you're both into sexually. It helps that conversation. A lot of couples listen to this show or my podcast. So I think that it's more about And you're learning, too. So the 20s are, you know, learning about yourself and your body. And so, you know, I know that he's great. Yeah. He does like, like, I want someone to, like, go down on me and, like, you know, do some, like, no finger action.
Starting point is 00:06:00 He'll do the fingering. But, like, he won't go down on me. Like, just, like, the biggest. Well, that's a deal breaker. And there's, okay, right? Like, then I'm like, oh, my gosh. And, like, he'll, I even said, okay, like, he's a drummer. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Do you go down on him? Do you give him blow jobs? So I'm a giver and I have stopped giving him blow jobs and doing hand things. One, because he's never come like when I give him blow jobs and he says because he gets too excited for that he wants the vagina. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. But like, that personally never happened to me. like, you know, where guys never come when I'm giving him a blow job. But like that, so that kind of was disappointment.
Starting point is 00:06:46 But not only that, but he's, he's very selfish in the bedroom, too. Where I'm like, okay, you, like, and I told him, I was like, hey, you're the bedroom and I need you to, like, put me first. And he'll ask me, like, what do you like? And I'm like, well, I just like you to be confident and just do whatever you want to do, like, throw me around, like, you know, be aggressive and, like, whatever I don't like, I'll say no. but, like, I just want you to just, like, dominate me, basically. And he's just kind of not, he's just not giving me anything to work with. So that's the frustrating thing. Because it's sex.
Starting point is 00:07:20 It's sex. Like, we can always work on that. But, like, you're not, if you're, I don't know, because everything else is perfect. I'm like, I don't want to throw away this great relationship when it's just this one thing, you know. Well, it's a bigger thing. I mean, you're saying that he's, I'm not going to get Adam's take on this, too. Adam, you know, you know, it's a lot of. My question, has it ever been good and deteriorated or has it never been?
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's never really been good. Oh, okay. Well, that's it. Peace out. That's the issue. You're trying, you're not trying to fix something. You're trying to create something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:55 If it wasn't there in the beginning, you're not going to get it back. Because he probably doesn't have the information. He probably doesn't know how maybe eventually he'll learn to be a great lover. But the fact that he has a germ thing and he won't go down in you. Like maybe some guys don't like it because they might not know what they're doing and they feel inadequate or they but if he just won't do it to me that's just a no go zone and now you're not giving him blood jobs first of all the thing the thing that that that you said brian that that you should be commended for is i was doing this and i stopped because so uh you have a vagina and a conscience
Starting point is 00:08:24 good girl so but what if you put yourself in the mindset and ask yourself the question do i want to build this with him and are you willing to do this with me that's the question if you rephrase the question. It's not like you got to get back to something that wasn't there. Do you want to go forward and make this better? Here's what I need. Here's a way we can do it. I'm open to any other way you might have. And then you work on it together. Yeah. He's right. But it's not a problem. It's something to be accomplished. Yeah. Okay. It's an effort. Yeah. That's such a great way to put it. You could say to yeah, let's do this together because you're both in it together. It's not up to you it to figure it out and then see if he wants to work on it together because they guarantee you
Starting point is 00:09:09 both have a lot to learn together but he has to be a willing participant i don't know how you sound very evolved you've a conscious like adam said and a vagina do it does he have the emotional maturity does he want to to work on it with you but i think you'll know sooner than later if you word it like that if he's like i'm not interested or we shouldn't have to work on it you know then you'll know yeah see if he's down and you guys could figure out together i see for first thing you do is like listen, I need to learn things about me. Will you help me? Because he doesn't want to know that he doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yes. Well, don't, yeah, because you don't know either. Let's be honest, Brianna, you probably are still discovering your body and what feels good to you at 25. Absolutely. Like, I mean, definitely there's, like, that's why, like, I want to explore things. And, like, you know, I think in the past couple years have started getting into Louvre and, like, doing different things and different positions and, like, even trying
Starting point is 00:10:01 to masturbate on my own because I'm like, oh, I'm just not into myself that way. There's a way I can get off. And to this day, that's still like a work in progress, but I feel like it's getting better because I have no other choice right now because I'm not getting any satisfaction right now. Yes. This is exactly it, Brian. If you don't know it, yeah, it is about your journey to figure out what feels good to you and your body.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And you're absolutely right going on that journey. And I like what Adam said about, do you want to come with me and help me figure it out? I haven't had an orgasm in this way. or I'd like to figure. And then I think when you enroll the guy, you're like, look at this. Let me show you what we could learn all my body. Let's do this together that maybe he'd be more down
Starting point is 00:10:38 than saying like, you don't know this and you're, you know, you need to ask for directions here, you know. I don't think that men like to be total debt necessarily. I don't even want to ask directions driving. You think I'm going to ask directions for this at 25? Exactly. Definitely. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's, thank you so much. Yeah. Of course. I hope it's still. Well, Brian. I'm here every night. I've got a lot of podcasts about this. A lot of couples listen to my podcast together and they get inspired, turn it off.
Starting point is 00:11:06 What do you say, Emily said here? Should we try to have the conversation this way or try this position? But I think this is a good first step. Try to have the conversation, see if he's down and then call me back. Let me know. I'm here for you every night. Thank you so much. Of course.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You're welcome, Brianna. Thanks for calling. They can be happy. So fun. Sex with Emily will continue after this quick word from our sponsors. Listen, this debut number one on iTunes, his comedy album, it's scary in here. And it's really good. So I have to say, I'm sort of like, how do I not listen to?
Starting point is 00:11:41 I don't know about comedy albums. I haven't listened to it in years. And I listened to it as like prep. And then I was totally into it and laughing. And it's like little small bites of Adam. Thank you, sweet. You can get them for free on all the platforms. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And it's worth it. And a lot of it was about my anxiety and about the way I'm dealing with. with life and yeah. Well, that's the thing is it is about your anxiety and it's pre-quarantine. So I'm glad we're checking in now. How is the anxiety, Adam Fara? Oh, my God. Because I can relate.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Okay. That God, you're here helping people and people have this outlet. My issue is I beat myself up. I turn my frustration in on myself and you should do better and there's that loop in my head. That's why, you know, meditation. I'm too wound up for meditation. I don't think your
Starting point is 00:12:26 mantra should be, look what you did. Look what you did. Look what you did. So, I'll tell you what one of the things that I found that really, really helped me was the phrase worry is not responsibility. That got crossed up in my head because my dad was my hero. He was the one that took care of the family and you wanted to emulate the man of the family. That's just the way I grew up. And my father was worried about feeding everybody who left these goddamn lights on.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I mean, it was the whole, you never let anyone outside this house know we talk about in here. I'm like, pop, the windows are open and you're screaming. They can hear you. So it was always worrying about feeding everybody and taking care of everything and make sure everybody was protected. It was the projection of my parents' fears on their children was part of it. But the rest was just that, you know, it can be a cruel world and you've got to look out for yourself. So I got the message that worry was responsibility because I was emulating the behavior from my dad. So when I learned worries not responsibility, it freed up the fact that I don't have to be this anxious.
Starting point is 00:13:26 You don't have to worry. I don't have to worry that much. to be a good man of the house. You know, man in the house has to be aggravated, worry and take care of him. No, he doesn't. That's just the wiring in my head. So that helped me a great deal.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Worry is not responsible. What do you worry about? That's a really good one. Yeah. I have a different thing. Well, okay, so much like you, Adam, I have the negative self-talk as well, but it's like mine says,
Starting point is 00:13:50 it's so funny you're saying this because I went through this morning. I'll take my therapy notes that are right in from you because you're never done. It's about, I worry about everything. I worry that I'm not doing it. enough that I'm not good enough that I'm not enough so the opposite that is like I am enough that would be like the affirmation when you try to flip it but I do this EMDR therapy about that so it's like I'm not doing enough I'm not good enough I won't be able to do this and it's constant in my head that I am constantly I fuck something up a big one is I'm not going to follow through
Starting point is 00:14:18 and you know here's something I can say to my whole team here because this is a big thing about work I worry that I'm because I'm ADD like you are and I have been challenged it for a long time in getting stuff done and follow through. in details. Like I love, like you said before, like I'm good at my job. I love helping people, but can I remember
Starting point is 00:14:34 to put the keys back in the bowl? Can I, do I have systems and organization? No. And then I feel, I don't always fall through with things and my team knows that. That's why I have an awesome team,
Starting point is 00:14:42 but then I often feel like, oh, they just think I'm not doing enough. So then, this is what I came up with today. Do you mind if I processed my therapy with you, Adam? Please do let it out, baby. What I came up with was, oh, that it's okay
Starting point is 00:14:54 that just because these things happened to me that I'm, oh, God, I didn't mean to go here today, but I'm not a bad, It's not a bad thing. It's not like a people know me. They expect me. I'm a good person.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I have good intents. And they probably know. Emily, like that's why my assistant gets a copy of everything. I'm not going to see it or read it. And it doesn't mean I'm a bad person. Like, I'm not a bad person because I have these skill set.
Starting point is 00:15:16 ADD doesn't mean you're lazy or stupid or not successful or are not all these things. That in fact, that's what makes me unique perhaps. Let me ask you this. When you get something done, do you feel better about yourself? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:28 The other thing is. is, no, I don't for a moment and then I think of what else the 10 things I didn't do. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So it's like a comic focusing on the one person not laughing. I do that too. Thank God I can't see everyone's face on Zoom right now. Thank God that I can't see them because if they're not,
Starting point is 00:15:44 right, I would be worried. So they're plotting against this. You don't trust these. They do. They're going, what, but that's what I think about.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But Adam, I love that you turn into humor and all the things that you do. And I know it's not easy being a comedian and artist, but I think it's, I think you have a skill. Here's the thing I just wanted to ask you because I have the same thing about thinking there's salvation in achievement, thinking about my identity lies externally from me.
Starting point is 00:16:08 If I, it's if then. If I do that, then I'll be happy. If this happens, then this will be, you know. It's bullshit. Okay, so it is bullshit that whole once I get the house, the wife, kids, the family, then I'll be happy. That is true. So we know that intellectually, and you're right. I have that same thing.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And then so appreciating your successes and the small moments are what's important. So it's like the moment by moment You have to just be like it is enough I am enough, it's okay right now It's not about achievement So does that mean that you've let go of achievement at all? Oh, I can say this shit But doing it fucking hurts
Starting point is 00:16:37 No, I know intellectually I know my anxiety comes from Future thought of something that hasn't occurred yet And my regret comes from depression And things I should have done There was a bit on the album called Anxiety and Depression The polarity of that
Starting point is 00:16:51 Where I'm running back and forth Between those two energies That's where that is To be present in that is to not worry about the future or regret the past. I'm right here right now. I'm here with Emily and Janette boxes and we're having a couple of good times. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Do you know this is exactly? I've got my yoga pants on still. Listen, the thing is, is that we, when you are present, the stuff that you're worrying about in the future and the stuff in the past cannot exist in presence. So do you think that's why you like doing a stand-up, right? And when you're probably feel great when you're doing a podcast. That's the only time I am fully present and you're a vessel is when it's coming through you.
Starting point is 00:17:26 when I'm a live audience, no net, I'm improving, and it's just coming through me. I'm not there. It's just whatever needs to come through me will come through me, and you're a vessel to somebody else. And I have, most comics can have that spidey sense where they can read a room. You know, you can feel an energy in the room. You get it when you're talking to a guest. You're like, this is going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:17:46 You know, you can sit there. Exactly. These are the best. Yeah, he's got to go. Sorry, Adam. Thanks for being here. I'll read out of me, book this bastard. I'm dying out of here.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's two hours a night, though, that I feel. feel fully present with everybody and I love, I love helping people. So that's, that's exactly what it is Adam. Okay, so it is true. So then the mic goes off and you're done with your show and then you're with your family or something happens and then you feel, how's it going at home? Home is great
Starting point is 00:18:11 because my wife understands. My wife is best move ever made in my world, and this entire world was marrying this woman. This is, I rang the bell and anyone listening, you're going to Google her and you're going to think to yourself, this guy's batting over his head. You're absolutely right. So she understands me
Starting point is 00:18:26 She becomes the barometer of myself. I need to self-correct if she's not happy because I've done something. My job is to make her life better because I live in better. I live better in service of life or better in service of the queen. You know, okay, how do I make this life better? This is my job. So if I scream and yell, which is old behavior that she's not used to, I'm like, that doesn't, this no longer serves me. I got to fix this.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I got to put that down. that that makes me happy knowing that making her happy makes me happy and again it's it's external fulfillment but right if i'm gonna go down i'll go down with a sword in my hand fighting for the queen you know so that's fine adam that's good so you feel like you uh so she so when you go back into the screaming and yelling like that stuff with therapy you've kind of don't do that as much anymore i try not it's more coming from response response because i grew up reacting italians are emotional people and then they're loud emotional people And it's not really happy.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Nobody lives at the end of the opera, Emily. You know, everyone's dying. So this is the culture we grew up in. So in learning the difference between reacting and responding and where those two impulses belong, reacting belongs on stage. Because that's when you're not thinking. You're totally present. And you're reacting to the moment.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Acting is reacting. So when I'm working, that's when I turn that switch on, open that door. And I can be, just be there. When I'm home, I got to respond from choice. and the choice is to be a better person in a relationship with somebody else, not just by myself. It's not about me when I come home.
Starting point is 00:20:05 It's about this family that I got to take care of. And I've taken on that energy as, you know, being the man at the house. And it's not to discount you ladies. You're perfectly capable of taking care of yourself. I think you're underpaid. And I think any decisions regarding your body should be made by you.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But let's be clear, this isn't about you. Right now, it's about me. So someone better help me right now. Everything is touching dope. Tell me, what? Can my control issues? I really got to address my control issues because there's no, there's no fucking control. There is no control.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah, right now you're just like, oh, okay, I guess this is going to happen whether I want it to or not. How am I going to deal with it? And let's deal with this right now. So what helped me was the blame, look, I can blame myself for a lot of shit. I'm codependent and Catholic, so I'm double-fucked. But there's no way I'm responsible for this. So I can let myself off the hook for this. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You're so right. So you've been married for how long? God, let me say. We lived together for so long. So I say we've been together since like 2006, maybe, 2003. You're three. Say it around in there. It's a long time.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, so we've been together long enough to know that we're the ones, whatever comes up, we're going to fight to get through it. So that's why I, I'm very lucky in that sense that this is something and not only I want to fight for, but I want to keep making better. Well, Adam, did you guys ever go to therapy together? We did once, and we all decided it's my fault. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Now, we did. Look, here's the thing that that works for us, Emily's. I know her crazy. She knows my crazy a lot better, but I know her crazy, and I know the way we function is a unit. Like, I know. If I got to go to the airport, I got to tell her it's a half hour before, and then I know she might make it on time. and if not, she's going to have to pee before we leave.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So I'll be right there is at least 15 minutes. So you just got to learn how to communicate. I'll be right there. That's 15 minutes. Don't yell for another 15 minutes. Don't ask for another 15 minutes. And she's going to pee. That's the reason that there's a little settee right by the front door
Starting point is 00:22:11 because that's where I sit with the dog looking at it going. It's 15 minutes. Don't be impatient. So she's got to know that. You know? So I know that about her. And she knows that when I can't do, I can only do one thing at a time because of my ADD.
Starting point is 00:22:23 so I'm flying all over the place. So she knows if I'm on the phone talking to somebody, she can't ask me a question. She can't get my attention because I can't do it. I'll fizzle out and I'll short circuit. Exactly. So can we talk about that? Having a partner, having ADD and then having someone,
Starting point is 00:22:39 a partner who can sort of handle it. I'm the same way. I can't be distracted if phone calls come in. The other day in the office, like Colin was playing great music, chill music that I like. I was like, I can't read and have music because it takes me out of the. It's not easy. I mean, having a partner who supports you
Starting point is 00:22:54 and got you like that. It just knows you're crazy. It just knows that she's going to need this. This will make her feel better. I know this will be there for her to get. She's got to get the engine running in the morning. So I get up in the morning. I come up first.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I make the coffee. I give her about an hour. Then I go back upstairs. And now she's got her little Yeti travel mug she likes. So I put her coffee in the travel mug so it stays warm. I put it by the bed and I go do what I got to do. So when she wakes up, she's got a cup of coffee. She'll come down and say,
Starting point is 00:23:20 good morning. She's already had a cup of coffee in her. and her day's better. So her day's better, my day's better. Yeah. Adam, that's great. So you just had those communication skills built in, but you had to learn.
Starting point is 00:23:30 No, no, I had to learn all that shit. You do have to learn it. Even without therapy, but you guys were willing to work on it. I just feel like we hear so many, you know, couples calling who've been together 20 years and they still are having a lot of the same arguments they had early on. You just don't learn how to resolve.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I had to ask myself the question. I'm like, I was in a relationship, a couple of reasons before that were at the same point, you know, when I was younger, that didn't work out. But what really helped me with my wife was it was a difference between have to and want to. You know, it was like all the other relationships I have before my wife was like, I got to do this. I got to, I don't want to go and do this. This is like, no, I want to do this. I want to get rid of this because this is worth fighting for.
Starting point is 00:24:13 This is what I want. I want to make this better. So when you're coming from want to, you got a lot more energy about you. And when I realized it's not working, you know, my attitude isn't working. Is there anything that keeps coming up again and again? You're like, oh, this fight or now it just kind of doesn't have the same. Yeah, I have no patience. I have no, Emily, I go from zero to homicide in three seconds.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I have no patience. When I say, can you do this? Is it done yet? That's the next sentence. And I have unrealistic expectations of how things are supposed to work. So that's what I got. I have to learn patience. It's like, I was on a car show.
Starting point is 00:24:49 for years. I like to, I like to drive fast and do stupid shit in cars. So that's an ADD thing too. Yeah. Anytime you put an input into the car, let's say you want to slide a corner, you're going to pull the e-break, you're going to load up to, first you load up the suspension, which means you shift the weight of the car to one side of the car. You pull the emergency
Starting point is 00:25:05 brake and the back end comes out, but you have to allow the car time to respond to the input you put into it. It's a dance. You become one with the car. That's two tons. You're throwing two tons around. So, you know, that's a big car. You know, a big Cadillac. You're throwing two tons around. So that's part of the way I've learned to have realistic expectations of feedback.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Because you have ADD like us. We want immediate, oh, there it is. Oh, I got that hit. I got that hit of feedback right there. Now I can turn my attention to this way. If I don't get the feedback here, I'm turning my attention to get that feedback met. And that's part of ADD is you're looking for feedback. You're looking for the, so you just got to ride it out.
Starting point is 00:25:42 It's what we're saying. Yeah, you're looking for like the separation of the impulse and the feeling to your choice of acting. on it is what I'm running. It's that moment, that sweet before you react. It's that moment in between that you have to, what's happening before, how do you stop yourself from reacting and searching and going to the next thing? Yeah. Oh, Adam. So helpful. We've got to take a quick break, but when we come back, Adam shares how he deals with his negative thoughts. Is your brain constantly reminding you of all the mistakes you've made? Adam and I will tell you what to do about it after this quick word from our sponsors. So a lot of what we talk about. So a lot of what we
Starting point is 00:26:19 talk about in the show is how we handle our emotions, how do we learn to communicate with partners, and especially we're talking about we both have ADD, and I'm always suggesting people need therapy and meditation. But you're saying that you're in a good practice of meditation, not medication. Well, that's right. I started with medication. Yeah, ADD. And first of all, they give you speed. Yeah, it's salt-based anphetamine. And it's expensive. The ad oil, it was like $120 for prescription. And I asked the doctor, I go, what is this? He goes, it's anphetamine. I go, I can go to Port Authority, get a bag of whites for $30. So then you were taking, yeah, no, right, not as effective, but training our mind, which is where
Starting point is 00:26:56 a lot of the destruction comes from is the things we think. So you wake up and you, what kind of practice is it? You said you do. So I got off the pills, right? So I got off the pill. I got off the antidepressants and everything because it just wasn't, it wasn't working. I wasn't feeling right. It wasn't feeling well.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It was too jangly. So I started a practice of just meditation to understand how to, because I figured, I figured, I knew it was the mind because the thoughts just kept racing. So one book I read, so it's a way of disciplining yourself not to react to the thoughts. You are not your thoughts. That's the first thing I had to. I had to learn. So then just as you separate and you get like a 30,000 foot view on your bullshit, you can sit in a place right now.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I can sit in a place where I can recognize the impulse of the thought and the thought triggers the emotion or the feeling. And I can choose to act on it or not. So you're coming from a place from choice. I don't do it well all the time. I don't catch them all, but I'm more aware than I was before. So when you sit in a place where you could observe your thoughts, it puts you in a neutral setting. But you don't get there right away because the first time I was observing my thoughts was like this. I see you, you motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You're the one that's making me yell, screaming yell. But you identify with your thoughts means you act them out. You engage with them. If you can just see them and not judge them as I'm bad for having this feeling, I'm worthless because I haven't done. on this. Why am I, it's not right to feel that. It's all judgment. It's all judgment. Yeah, all that judgment triggers a story. Look, pain in life is mandatory. The suffering is optional. The suffering is the shit comes from the stories we tell ourselves because you don't get something done or you can't find your keys. Emily's bad. And now you caught in that loop. Exactly. And then everyone, and then Colin's sitting
Starting point is 00:28:41 going, Ovi, pull her out of the hole. We got a show to do. That's what they do. We call the rabbit hole. My sister's like, don't go down that rabbit hole. Pick it happy rabbit hole. I'm mad to Megan, go get her. We're all in the 30 second break. You know, so you still got the show to do. I can't find my keys. But Adam, I want to get specific here. Your practice, is it just a breath meditation?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Is it a word? It started with right now. It's a breath meditation now because to eliminate the words, it started with a mantra. It started with this, but then just to eliminate the words and just to go into the space and to, the best way can this place to cultivate a felt sense. All right. so I can feel cultivating a felt sense means it's it's your gut it's your gut when you feel you know when something's right and when something's wrong so if you cultivate that felt sense that's a higher it's pointing you to that kind of feedback with the world we live in rather than sight sound smell all that other stuff we're just we think that those five senses are identity and the thoughts that are connected to what we believe in if you separate yourself from a belief system or any kind of system and just kind of sit and observe shit, then you can just be, you know, being comes from, there's no wanting, there's no fear
Starting point is 00:29:55 and there's no, there's no fear and there's no desire. Fear and desire, the one that causes the stories of my head, it makes you suffer. I have to get that. If I don't get that, I'm a piece of shit. How did I miss that? It's my fault, you know? And then if you look backwards, how could I let that happen? So you're never really present. You're never really being. So I started with a breath meditation. I started with a mantra. And now I'm at a point where I still use the breath through just to start the machine and just to sit there. And the best thing that I have found for 20 minutes is a great book called natural meditation by dean slider uh that's the book that really clarified everything okay um yeah i had a podcast as well but if you're gonna start it all
Starting point is 00:30:29 you got to do is say i'm gonna sit in this show all i'm responsible for is to put my ass on this seat for five minutes three minutes that's it that's all you respond you start with that even if you do it for a minute yeah no it's true and i've been meditate it's funny it's like it's like working out but i when you're in a role with it you're great and i've been probably first meditated 25 i think it's 25 years ago and then I go in and out. But mostly I do it every morning, but I, when I don't do it, I notice that it's, you know, I'm off. But I think you're so right
Starting point is 00:30:55 what you're saying about your gut. Trusting our gut, we have all the answers. So by meditating, you're just more aware. You don't have the same reaction. So it helps your anxiety though, too, you're saying? Are you less anxious? It does. It helps my anxiety because I'm less anxious because I don't feel like I need to control
Starting point is 00:31:11 the outcome of the future. And if something happens, it wasn't my fault. And if something happens, I'm cultivating my trust in my ability to overcome. So I'm moving myself out of a fear-based identity in reality like, oh my God, what if? Fuck what if? You know,
Starting point is 00:31:27 what if my aunt had balls? She'd be my uncle. It doesn't matter. You're putting yourself in a position where you're going to just drive yourself crazy. You know, so it's having, my wife says I'm cultivating trust and Italians don't really trust do well.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You know, we're born going, yeah, I'm not. It's like the DNA thing. She wanted me, she wanted me to do the 23 and me. I said, I'm not giving up evidence without a court order. I'm not trust anybody. So that's what it is. It's coming up with that felt sense that, okay, this is my fault and I'll be able to overcome what's thrown my way. That is it. That is it. It is really the best tool, especially right now when a lot of us are feeling even more anxious. Some people, I don't believe it or not, are having anxiety for the first time. Oh, welcome. That's what I feel like. I'm like, welcome to the party.
Starting point is 00:32:15 How is that going for you? And it's like someone who's been, you know, had it, had it in my entire life, which they never used to call it anxiety. What did they call it 20? I just, or ADD. Calm the fuck down. I remember I was talking to my shrink. It happened to me in the fifth grade. And I remember that summer, that summer when anxiety, I didn't know what it was, but I knew I didn't feel right.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I was in the fifth fucking grade, Emily. And it hasn't gone away. Exactly. What did you feel in the fifth grade that made you anxious? Fifth grade, I did something. I got into a fight on the school bus. on the fifth grade of like one of the last days of school and this guy wasn't much of a fight but I did the best I could you know this kid just kicked my and everyone was laughing to me and I was
Starting point is 00:32:56 humiliated so it was one of the last days of school where I felt you know humiliated and that humiliated feeling sat with me that whole summer and I had anxiety about the first day of school because I'm like I'm going to go right back on that bus and have to go back into that fight again and everyone's going to humiliate me there was going to point and everyone's going to laugh and that's when I realized this is it why is this happening to me. So even at that moment, I realized that I could observe that thought because it was abrant. It was alien to me. I never felt it before, even though I was a kid. But I had a kid's mind where I'm like, this isn't right. This isn't. So I had that separation ability that I didn't
Starting point is 00:33:35 know I had. And meditation and therapy helped me cultivate. I'm still a fucking mess, but at least I know why. Well, that's the thing. At least you understand it. That's what it does, you guys. And everyone just thinks that therapy isn't worth it or you don't need therapy. I'm always pushing it here. I'm always trying to explain to people that it's, I don't know. Maybe people still think, well, it means that I'm crazy or they're going to send me away. Yeah, there's a stigma. We think you're insane.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It just gives you life tools. Yeah. You're not going to send you away. You're not crazy. Everyone's fucked up. You just don't know it. We are all fucking people who think they're not fucked up are the most fucked up. Those are the people that pick up an axe and wipe out the whole family one day.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's so true. And it helps your work and helps your comedy. Do you feel like, how do you feel, Adam, their comedy's been during? Like, are you flourishing or are you feeling like, ah, I'm doing more. I'm doing more, and I'm trying to do more out of wanting to produce rather than, holy shit, I'm scared, and I got to do something. So I'm trying to come from a place of, I had this opportunity as an opportunity to create. I've never been more fucking busy in my life. You know, I'm really busy doing shit, but I'm not going out on the road.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I'm not leaving the house. So the feeling I have to remind myself is you are working, you are producing, you are productive. but you're not, I'm used to getting on a plane every Thursday, flying into do radio Friday morning and do the morning news on Friday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, get on a plane to fly home. That's my work schedule. So that's how I know I'm doing something. I'm actively moving.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So I had to remind myself that even though I'm not leaving the house, I am working, I am producing, I am. And again, I am doing what I'm supposed to be doing. That's your self-worth, that's your value. Adam, this is good. I feel like I'm getting a second therapy. See, we all need it, right? Even though I go this morning, Adam, this is great.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I got to ask you. Adam Ferreira. The five questions we ask all of our guests. Yes. It's our five quickie questions. Go ahead. Biggest turn on. The way my wife's hair smell. The biggest turn off.
Starting point is 00:35:26 The way my feet smell. What makes good sex? Communication. I like it when there's a lot going on. Something you tell your younger self about sex and relationships. Don't be a dick. Don't be a dick. There's two people in this relationship.
Starting point is 00:35:46 It ain't just you. What's the number one thing you wish everyone knew about sex? It ain't dirty. It's only dirty if it's done correctly. I love it, Adam. Adam, that's real. Okay, so tell me people can find you. They can come on your time.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I wish I could go to St. Louis if it wasn't so cold and there wasn't on New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. You would be a good time on New Year's Eve. I do like a collective event. And so, yeah, it's at the Helium in St. Louis for New Year's Eve. My podcast is wherever you get your podcast, the Adam for our podcast. And my album's called It's Scary in here. And I want to thank Emily for having me on to help me plug my shit and have some of life.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I love it. I love it. I have to come back on your podcast. Please do. I would love it. That's it for today's episode. Thank you so much for listening to Sex with Emily. And if you love the show, please like, subscribe and leave a review.
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