Sexe Oral - À quoi ressemble la vie d’un escorte homme à Montréal ? Avec Maxime Durocher

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Les propos exprimés dans ce podcast relèvent d’expériences et d’opinions personnelles dans un but de divertissement et ne substituent pas les conseils d’un.e sexologue ou autre professionnel de la santé. Cette semaine sur le podcast, les filles reçoivent Maxime Durocher, un escorte masculin hétérosexuel de 51 ans, pour une conversation aussi fascinante qu’inédite sur les dessous du métier. Ensemble, ils discutent de sa démarche, de son rapport à l’intimité, du regard social sur le travail du sexe et de ce que recherchent vraiment ses clientes. Au menu : - Le parcours atypique d’un escort homme à Montréal - Les motivations derrière le travail du sexe masculin - Les qualités essentielles pour durer dans ce métier - Le rapport entre plaisir, empathie et thérapie - La place du BDSM et des relations de pouvoir dans ses rencontres  Le podcast est présenté par Éros et Compagnie Utiliser le code promo : SEXEORAL pour 15 % de rabais sur erosetcompagnie.com Les jouets dont les filles parlent : erosetcompagnie.com/page/podcast  Pour collaborations : [e-mail] Pour toutes questions : [e-mail] Pour suivre les filles sur Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/sexeoralpodcast Pour contacter les filles directement, écrivez-nous sur Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/sexeoral.podcast/ Pour louer un studio et commencer votre podcast : https://studiosf.ca

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because today, Lizan, has had had a little problem with baby, not baby, so, so, baby blaze. Baby,

exterior. It's so, B, B, B, Sierra, don't you don't worry about. And Vanessa Dichelle, who was in in plain course of English.

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Merci, Ful. Thank you, I'm very content. I've had an occasion in the one hour that I've had to me to come to be an podcast

with Maxim, the invite of today. So I'm super content to have to be there's many questions

and I've got to know more on more so I'm going to know the question. It's always

interesting to be able to present different facet and to interacture in talking to talk about

the sex which is for me a subject that is an important to do the topic final

it's decriminalize completely. 100% but I'll let see it's your podcast let's see

no no no we're we're we're all we're on today and Liz I start

that so So I don't, jeaned you not, but, I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to go to the first question. Okay. I'm going to say, Maxim, it's Maxime du Rochay, your name. It's the part of where? I'll always have, okay, it's a bit.

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you think, and the open to see with your family, like that's my own, I'm doing,

it's going to it's a part to the time. I don't know, I can't say, I'm not saying I'm not

the factor of that's that's, is that I'm like, I'm like, I'm playing

pleasure. You know, in a moment of pleasure to make a pleasure, and that's,

it's a little part to, you know, I'm so give us don't know the cardo

to do not the in a way obligatory, in the sense, if you're a fight, you have to give a card. So, I'm at a minute, I think,

a little fun, and I think to tell a person, you know, I'll get it, and I'm going to give, it's a cardo. Well, that's,

it's a great cardo. If you're received, you're because it's a party, or it's because it's Newel.

It's, these affairs obliged, I'm not that, and personally, I prefer not to receive of a cardo no more,

because I'm someone, I'm someone, I'm not, I'm I'm not accumulate, these things.

If someone if someone if someone is more to really know what I'm and what I'm and what I'm

the best of because I'm because I'm not something that's just train and that's just encumbering, I'm not

no more more. Yeah, it's just some. Yeah, it's so. And I

like to make pleasure. So I know that's a great contributor to fact that my first experiences sexual,

I mean, it's always been to make pleasure it's my first, my first

coppine you know I'm, I'm, I'm, I remember, the three first days,

they had passed to becky and when I were able to fornir, she said, well, I'm going to

make pleasure. Ah, wow. Is she were more aged than you than you had you

had you perhaps a few months of more with me? We were at the same age. And she, she, she, she, she had a little more experience than me.

And then, we used in these books of Sexo, we were at Ocege. And she was in, she was in a course of psychology, a psychology sexualist, a, a course of sexo.

And then, we'd, we'd say, oh, yeah, we'd probably try to say that, oh, yeah, it's what, that? Because in the time, we were at the discovery, the point G. But, you know, I'd say

it's a sort of stuff, we're saying, and I had very much to find out of and I'm

in a minute, I'm in my discussions with her, and a little in, you know, in all the

fact, you know, it's, you know, it's, there's a few years, there's not

many, there's not the pleasure of the family. Well, yeah, still,

we've been, there's been, there's a We don't have been he's a bell We don't know

We've been Hello Hello But it's So I think It's more than it's more We're talking

We're talking Yeah, but But, you At a moment It's It's something I mean The first

I mean, I think it It's probably It's It'd be fun, you To be to be able Partage

that with other Fame And I And I had 17 In this moment And I

And I'm And it It's It's in My It's in my It's That in

In fact, you know, there are a lot of women who have not this pleasure, this chance, to have a person with her who will be... She will be... To be...

At their pleasure, all the hour, yeah. Or at the same time, egal, egal, I'm not saying, I want to say, I want to say, I want to say, but I want to, I think, I think, I think, I think,

it's, in fact, I think it's more easier to give the pleasure in first, and then

after that to have because you're on your eye. You know, you know,

all your desire is there, you've been to have to be in orgas, so so that

you want, you know, I think more more, I think, more, I'm doing,

it's that, and good, it's so. And, I, I've, I've heard,

that you're an blonde that's an escort too? Yeah, and is that that's that

that you've got really made to the where you have had already before?

For me it's not clear. I mean, before to it's a point of it's a

milieu that's a very, very opaque. From the exterior, we know,

we know, we have just these, we'd say, these stories or at the inverse of the glamour

stories, you know, we're just, we know, and a one way that I had conued

the, what he's and how it it would be I realized that it was possible that it's possible that's not

a job, you know, even to make a career to be able to progress there in. And I also

seen the thing that's for me the most important there's that it does that don't much of

time free. And at that I worked on the project personal of creative

and I did a escalate and I wanted to do not return to do

to do five. and then to bring the 40 hours per semen and then the night of the night of the time of the time of the time, to just want to do

just want to do that that was for more important and I would say yes, it's you're doing work and yes you have to make

time to that but when we are independent and even when when we're in agency there there's a way to organize

some time for to have a lot to be able to be able to work to work on other things

that are not lucrative but who are... Developed your own but who are... Yeah, but who are

a source of stimulation and then of valorization. So, for me, I've decided to me

to me and I'm because I would have a opportunity. And the blonde how she had

put that at that she's still with her with her. Oh, yeah, I'm

she's totally normal. And she were escorts in the fact the two

you have to work in it's like to what of the discussions at what? After your

work? Well, it's a bit like a bit like another other couple in the

sense, but the things, the stories varied, you know, what kind of client

today, you know, I have a client in a poche, you know, he'd have been

tell, tell, a affair, and other other way, it's, it's, it's been

really tripping with this person that, I've had a new client, you know, It's the same

It's the same thing than a other work in the fact, I mean, it's more intimate, but there's a lot of

work that's quite a lot of where is that you have to get in contact with the other person in a manner

emotional and all, you have the work of the support of therapeutic where is there's a

great work personal that's there's a interne of that, and I think that the work of sex is also it's also a lot of, you know,

there's an aspect therapeutic at this work, and I'd say that even the people who are there and who think

just at the aspect sexual, you know, of the service, they're going to search a human, while gare you,

that, you say, well, yeah, if they'd just be masturbate, exactly, they research

the The connection, the energy of the other person who they bring up. And it's that the people comprehend not. It's that the work of sex has always existed and it will always exist for these reasons. It's the connection human. It's not all the world who can, who can't do it, and who can't even go to the applications. There are plenty. There are some people who it, that they're tend to go to go to this game, but who are

kind of envy to have this connection. And there are some, even if they're saying, they can't. for different reasons. So I think that people merit to to be able to see if you're

in life. I'm really for this work. Is there some of the time you're going to get to work

and you bring the problems of your clients with you because there there's the therapy there in

I imagine you're probably you know it's not it's not, it's not it depends of the personality

of each person of each person, each time because yeah it's like in other work, at a moment, there are people who will report

and that's the other people that are the other people that don't. It's sure that it will depend on what what's going to happen. Some of it, it's sure that it's more difficult, and sometimes it's a bit of time

that, you know, that's the same thing, when you're a same thing, sometimes, these conflicts at work it can be perdurray hyper long time. Yeah, yeah, no, it's clear. And in informatics,

I've already made a burnout because the environment of work in which I was toxic. And then it was too, and I put it in a coche, you know, I'm not going to return there. You know, I had the nausea to think of return to work, so it's never something that's ever something that happened

in the work of sex. But I just wanted to say, like, you know, I've been taught of course for years, and I've learned oftened often to learn after the school, and they'd say that they'd have been afraid at the school or that's a lot of, you know, if they're a lot of, you know,

they've been to pass a day of course to a hour to talk to their life perso, I'd enter at the house, after I just to how I could help

these young that, what's the I'm trying to do you because you are very intimate with

the person so it's sure that I imagine that's a transfer of energy, a transfer of a transfer of something

when you get to when you think you think you sometimes to say this person that

I would that I would be that I would be that it will vary I'm not

the kind of thing that I report with me I'm I'm I'm

content to be there and I'm someone who is disponely me emotionally often

I'm very empathic invers the person I'm I'll easily understand

their emotions where is they are and to be able to be really to say

the situation but after that yeah yeah I'm perhaps I'm perhaps it's not

something that I will get emotionally It's not something that's going to be to pease. It's good, that's... It's so...

It's not... ...it to be able to be able to... It's not to... It's not, that's not... Is it a question, or I can go ahead with my question? No, go ahead. I mean, I'd just say, it's like...

The doctors, or the people who... They don't have not the choice to sort of to start it to the head, because at a moment, if you're... And then, you're... And then, and...

And also, the other thing, also, is... Is it the fact also, is that the people, they pay to the hour, you know, and that's, you know, we'll probably, we'll talk about

more, but for the price, but the people, let's, say, I'm 5,000 Piaz, well, you know, the one hour, there's,

like, as you, as you know, there's more more, maybe, maybe, but at the same time,

it's they're to do it's , you know, if they say, yeah, I'm 100, I'm, I'm,

then, you can, you can't, you can't, it's been, it's 20 minutes, you know, it's the person to No, but I'm glad to, it's more the people that I'd

thinker not that, at a minute, they're also, for cocoa. For cocoa? For cocoa? Well, in fact, I'd have to know because you say that you're empathic, is what the quality that you have for being escorts?

Well, look, the qualities, it's not the qualities that it's for to be a, for, to be a workerer of sex. It's more the qualities that will aid. You know, because,

I know, I know, the first that aid, like to give to pleasure. That is something that's

something that will permit to a person who does work to do really really more

longer. Because the people who do that they have been the difficulty to durable

more. Ah, why? Why? Because it's because it's, they're

not to take that. You know, it's, it's not so satisfying that

if you if you, if you're something a other motivator you know, the fact that I'm

doing the pleasure it's always some of the other people also I'm a very curious, so I'm trying to see, I'm

not someone when I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm asking for to entertainer the respect to

the life private I let's the person to say what they want to say when they want they're

they want to it's especially if a person has been a trauma, I'd post a question on a question on but this person in a manned

will be perhaps will be able to me and say and that I'll accept so. So, like,

to like, to be to be to be curious, I'd say, that a person that's empathic

will also have a more of more of facilitation. But I'm maybe, of this

Could you could have perhaps that a person otis would have more of facilitated in the sense that it's perhaps more prenant the emotions but that's but I'm a little parenthesis

you can be autistic and super empathic yeah yeah but it's just I just not that I'm just not that I'm just not I'm not hyperatical

because I see that yeah yeah but I'm sorry but no it's not but we're not but we're the last time that I've learned that

that I've learned that because I think really, but I thought it just that had not a conscience necessarily social and that was a bit more difficult

for them but it's too not too, but it's not because it's because I have a client who had a client

who had an autistic and she she, she didn't know the emotions Yeah, that's for

that we've made this idea that, and that it's been one of my good client I mean

because we had a little she, she she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, I'm not said that she, but in having already had already with the person autistic and when I had

had been in a minute, you'd say, you'd say, you're not on the spec, you know, I said,

yeah, I said that, I said, I said, I said, and then, it's something that's something

that's a because she said she'd not always not to say to her person, for not

to be treated differently, for, you know, for not that it's influence the person, but my

argument that I used that, I said, maybe that it would help to meet with people who will be able to understand

the fact that you say it's the people who are not reactive, you can't just they're just they're trying, it's not the person

that's not in your life anyway. Yeah, and it would probably had a good reaction, and you know, you know,

you know, you know, there's probably, there's a lot of, because they're not in the way, so it

would be able to get to live in the situations malaysant, you know, and it's so, because sometimes they're

maybe, maybe it would be maybe that it's I'm not because I'm not necessarily very

connoisseau I'm going to think I'm going to another subject because I said

I'm just to have just to have your first client like your first client in

fact it's can you tell you how it did you know that's how you

have you know in fact my my first client had been a couple

yeah because it's difficult to you know it's you know

it's To understand that, I receive practically of courier of men who want to work than the women who

want to have my service. And these men, they don't know that, you know, I think, I've been

six months before my first time, and then it had been three years before to have a salary of

creven fin. For that, I've loaded my credit and my card of credit because I did that I was an

enormous salary. So, I had two cards of credit that had an amount. I had a mortgage of credit that. I'd love of that, and then after that, I've had

done it. Oh, my God. You wanted to do you? Exactly. I wanted to do you. I wanted to do this work that, and I wanted

to continue, like I said, my own projects. And it's not something that I wanted to. I mean, I'm taited. And I regard to, sometimes I'm like, my God,

why I did that? It's a little debil. There's a very few of people. It's really want to be passionate, and there are who are doing to do, like, for

to be artists, you know, that's what I'm to be able to be people who are really persevered in the misery, because it's something

that's something that they want to do it, it's that I've made, and the guys who think they're going to

have the money, you know, they can't do that they're going to do that, no, it's it's costed

to the money to do, to do that, to do this, and to me invest, time and of the

money for debuting. What's what we we're going to work we're going to start

yeah, yeah, of us to have to live. You know, all the time that

you pass to do what you have to do you to work to work to work

of the sex, it's all the time that you have to you have to do you

need, there's photos, and, you know, some of the photos, some of it's really

that's more because there we're there's all all sorts of lot of

So it's just, you know, if you're just, you know, if you're doing photos, you know, it's these photos that are, you know, and then, you know, after that, you know, you have to, you know, you have to, you know, you have to do you, have to arrange that, you know, I'm, I'm just a programmer. So, so, you know, show my set web, it's me that's my that's made, you know, again today, it's me that's written the set web all the complete of A, Z, it's all these lines coded at the

man, you know, it's not pretty null part, it's me that's made because I know how

codet and then you know, you know, and at a moment, you know, you know,

where's the news, in the journal? In the time, yes, I had

passed some in the journal in Moria? Yeah, there had, there was,

there was the mirror, and I'm and then the other. In other, there were two who, between other were there. What's it

written? I mean, I mean, I remember. 51-year-old Gros bat. Comey me to see.

Grobatt. Oh, my God. What's the... No, but... How much we're... No, a woman

doesn't... No, a... You know, there's a lot of people who want to be... What they do is, they make

these annos, and they're they're taking a photo, and they make... They put that, you know, in willing to say, and the women, it's in my experience,

of what I've made to say by my clients, it's a great turn-off. It's not, it's not, that they want, yes, they're going to be to be sex, yes, they're going to

come to have your queue, but it's not that they're going to be able to they're going to want to want your smile, they're going to want to keep, contrary, in

what I think, is what I'm a man who want to search a service for an escort of a woman? I don't

think it's a look, how to see, how to see, how how to... You're surprised? Yeah? Yeah, but

is it the majority, or... Well, you know, there are who are, who are checking and they're going to

see, they're going to have some, they're going to be... The attributes physical. But they're they're, when they're

they're it's, it depends that depends which is a certain people who are not they'll just check the photo but it's not necessarily a photo of five

who will they're attire and there are who are going to read the annals there are who are to be interested to how the announcement it's written there are who they're

going to start to how an announcement and they will have an email or a message text that will reference the announcement in a certain

I had a colleague. She, she, she, she, and the client that she had, she had responded to, and she had responded in a manner similar, and all that, so, so you go,

these annons, and how you're present, will give, who is, who is, who is, it's a, it's,

it's a coloration, correlation, not corollation. If you're, if you came to be able, it's just, it's just,

that's not you can't help you're that's it's it's it's well, you know it's, no,

but it's, you know, you know, you're in it's sure that you're, and it's sure that the person who,

who, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, just attention to how she

, I'm just attention to my name, but, you know, I'm trying my tricks. You're not a bad

person, you're not you're not a too croce, but I'm, but I'm, I'm a too croce,

I'm a true, I'm a But, you know, you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying also that the

travelers of sex also do you have been so on what they're so they're they're so, they're very,

very, very, very, very, attention because there's there's a person who can't be dangerous for us other.

It's so they filter their demand. Pote, it's what their presentation, it's not because you're

a good presentation that you're not because you're not of no, but what I what I mean by that,

is that you can find the clients that correspond to all depending on how is you do your presentation. You can

do you have a presentation plus hardcore if that's what you're in need, but it's not that your presentation

correspond to what you want to offer in, you know, in partland of my ex who had

in a moment, she, she, she, she, she, she, I'd be full of cash, I'm doing, you know,

you know, you're more duss, you're more when it's more when it's you want

to do you really do you really find the client that she she's percived that

it's not exactly that you know it's not you know it's so you know it's like

it's able to know and to know where is we can do that what's

we can when I when I when I when I see I'm if I if I

had to if I tried to use a game it would be because that I'd

always in my affairs, and I'd be able to I'm trying to be able to do you're in

your job, you know, you know, you're doing the card of credit, you do you do you do with your internet,

you make these annons, and after that, is that is that does that function? No. And then,

what's what you do you do? Yeah, now you're in that's what is what is what I'm that's what

has been that, in gross, how is when it has finished by it's because

it's because Because of, well, there had been a few little things, okay. At the beginning, I tried

to do exactly like the, like, like, to make these little in those where's the

where's the people are, but it's at the biblioteque. Yeah, like, you put the

announcements in the pages to leave. In 50 shade, it would be working. Oh,

yeah, oh, yeah, the new last time. Here's my number, my belle. Imagine.

But, it's a good, it's a There are these sites web that are specialised there in. But that's, it's not

for, say, a man heterosexual. So, so after that, I've continued to search, but in this time there,

there was a site that was the concierge of the world. Concierge of the world? Yeah, which it was

just for these men who offered the service to the women, and the people who

were who were sure. This site that is more. It exists but I had used

some I used to after that I exploited a Facebook in the sense that he

permitted not these annons erotic but I had had made an interview for the metro

and the article was in line so I made a link on the article

of the journal and I did make the publicities with the article

so I don't do the publicities to at

the metro who who who had to me. So it

was by the bank and that it has functioned for a certain

time so I pay Facebook for my annons and with

the time what is the case is that my name

is so my new that Google I reference

more more more more because that in the

algorithm there a thing that is that more

the name is the with certain terms, then they're going to

up on the page. So, so I've got it's in 2011, it's 14 years,

so my site web, my own domain, with all my tag of straight mail escort,

of the Traveyor of Sex, all that now that they're associated to that,

it's more easily referencible. Because if, if you have on a site web,

you have invested in the SEO, the search engine optimization, and there again there's something that's something

that's a lot of new new because there's pretty much the search engine, now you're more of the algorithms of

intelligence artificial, so that it's modified again, but I'm I roll on the fact that my

my, my site is well referenceed. Is that the, the fact, you're not

paid, because I think on Google also you can pay for You're not with with the services

section. Okay, it's like, okay, it's that you talking to talk to you're there's a

agency for that then you're okay, no, but for the fans, there's there's a

but there there's not there, because one of the first that I started and I'm going to be able to

be able to be able to be able to have passed at the time there there's a one of

there's saying, hey, I'm I'm over an agency um for

them. They've I've tried, but it has done a year. But why it doesn't work not at a time, you think?

Why there's not the clientele female than the clientele women, because we'll say the escort

feminine. Look, it's the patriarchal. In gross, it's simply a cause that the

manner in the society, which is a society patriarchal, educ the men,

and educate the difference is there. It's not so that a woman is less sexual, a woman

would have more of service sexual or what it's because it's something that's

something that we imprint on on the conscience of the way of the way that we're the way of the subject

that's that's all the films, these books, we don't know, we're doing to women, look,

so you're be sexy, so you're be belle, but the sex that you're not, you know,

so, then when we're saying to them, well, you're not you're if you're

you can, you can't, if you if you're you're not, you can pay. That's something that's that's a lot of

all the women comprehend in society that's something that's something that's possible that we can pay, so, there's

there's not, there's not, there's not there's not, you know, okay, well, you're just

to franchure the path to the taboo is, is that you will pay for that? So, so for the

women, probably have that you have the idea. then you have he says that it's like it's like

okay ah it's like but now it's it exists and hant oh well

it's it's but for me also yeah by what what is what I think

what I'm I've never seen and I uh and then then you're

another you know it's it's it's apparent that there you have

you have to take the decision to And then you tombs on these photos of queue and then you say,

ah! And then it's, it's, it's, it's, well, I'm going to try to be

me re-en to do you. And in all, you know, you know, not that the person

so, you know, it's, it's, it's a thing, there's a lot, I know, there's,

there's, there's, there's, I think, and even, who say, that it says, that it's

years, that I look, it's years, oh. But, there's

There's something of, I think, you know, long time, we're saying, the fie, when you have too of partner, when you do

get too, you know, when you're people who are to be able to for the number of chiff. For the

women, yeah, she's that. She's fured, she's fured, she's fured, she's so, so,

so there's something to relate with the honor, because we're made because we're for the society,

you, so it's difficult for the family to, and also, you're on a dickpick, you don't say, like, oh, yeah,

it's not supposed to-s-o-s-war, it's really rare, so, we know, it's not that that's allume, I'm just to say, there's a lot, but there's,

but, let's, if I'm, if I'm, a dick-pick of an in-connue that's- no, no, so,

no, the, I think, it's, it's very very, but, it depends, after me,

there, there's, there's, there's, there's, it's sure, yes, yeah,

yeah, it's sure, There's a minority. But I think that, but I think that's not in a lot of it's not like

that you're not like that's that you're going to get to get to get you'll be able to and say, you can't

you know a well phrase hey, you're a good compliment yeah yeah but I'm

I'm saying but it's but it's what I'm to make to say to say to know

in what your site in what you're different of a site meton of a woman escort?

It's not very much so different The only thing, is that I'm a section that I call the Lounge or is that I've written plenty of texts sometimes it's these articles for

for these journals that I've written some of the questions that we've posed the list of my films favorite the list

of the films that I've made or the series that I've made on Netflix I've also I've to have been

human plus for that's I've got a lot of which makes that the person can

learn to learn who I'm trying to through this material that and to be to be to be

that I rarely see that I have rarely there's some there's other will

have been a blog but it's but it's not the plus that that I've seen

that I've You know, I tend to to put more my gout my gout who I'm my consent. But you're

conscious that in doing a aspect also security. Yeah, that's for that I do you know,

I know, so, you know, I'm going to me contact and also it's already a filter

in some where. I say that it may not happen to not to not

to be able to be there, and I think there also there also many

of the filtering that's made, there's a minute, there's probably people who

have made, well, there's a bit of, maybe, they're probably, the way which I mean,

or the way of that I mean, they've made, they're doing, I'm doing, I'm going to get a response. Do you,

do you, your client? I've never had to , you know, it's for that it's always, it's, you know,

it's, you know, it's not the loisire, no, really, really, because there's, because if I'm

meant to filet , And it's a trouble badly a couple but the most part

of the time it's, it's, it's, it's it's applied also to get to

get to your do that you have at the part? Well, yeah,

it's sure, I've learned to appreciate the person as they are,

and to find something to each of each of the person that is

special, which is fun, it's I'd say, I mean, there's some of the clients or the potential

who are, is there, is, is that you have to have a photo of me? I'm, I'm not necessary.

But, you know, but I'm, because I know because I know that for certain it's reassurant if he's me envois

a photo. Yeah, I'm the, do, is, is, is, is what,

is, is, is, is, if you want to, send me, envue me to, invite me to,

see, if you, if you want to let me they're going to invite me, and they'll say, yeah, there's no problem. And, yeah, it's a lot of, and, yeah, it's not a problem. And, yeah, it's not sure that they're reassure

that, that they're reassure, that, that, that, that, can't tell me a photo and that I'll tell me, that you're saying, yeah. You know, it's not, not to reassure, but to prepare. Well, I'd say that, you know, the most majority, I've never had a photo before they encounter.

So I'm so I'm so that to have a photo before, it's a that's done

an idea of who you want to it's like when you're talking about their life, you know, you've got

a idea of who you've got to me they're not, if we're talking about

some of some of the details, it's it's just it's appreciated but it's not necessary

but it's it's the fun to to know I'm just to me just to me divorce or

it's it's not in my relationship or tell or tell, tell you and it's when you're

when the person you're interested really not. Yeah, it's rare, so it's it's a like if it's

a tromped of address. Whoops. No, it's not here. No, no, it's not not it's not

it's not. No, but, you know, the when it's the way to it's

because at a moment when I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm to learn to the person

more it's like, It's not her personality Yeah Turnoff Oh, yeah

And then it's like It's like It's like You're like I'm more The Bichron No

No I'm Yeah, That's just I would say You're talking To talk to No

No, It's really These Who are Who are Conservatrice Ah That

Who talk The Trump When Oh Oh Oh, Oh, Oh,

excuse Yeah, you're in the genre You know, I mean, it's That's that, for me, it's a turnoff

or some people who have, I've had, I've had, some people that I've got proved, that I'm

that's worth the pain to be paid. That for me, it's, Chabach. Oh, yeah, no, it's,

it's, it's, I mean, it's what, she's what, she's what, she said, like,

well, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, it's, it's,

it's, it's what, the phrase , After, let's let's talk about, and after? Imagine, after. Oh, yeah,

it's for the next time, I'm not going to, I'm not really exactly what, but it's like, yeah, well,

yeah, well, yeah, but, yeah, it's, it's probably, it's true, it's probably,

you know, if I'd have to have, if you'd have to have, like, if you know, I'm not,

I'm not, well, I'm sure, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, and,

you know, it's, it's just the instant past, the people of people, they think it's a lot of

just the instant passing with the person, just to be to hear of the listening, it's a little that you

take your time, you're taking your energy for this person that. Is it a service? You pay for

your service. Oh, it's awful, the world, it's like I, okay, I'd pay- not because

I'm not, you're not you're not a little when you're or it's a little less but it's

it's not you it's not it's not it's not but is there's been there's a situation

about us about us like you know, that you can you can't describe that's,

yeah, that's, that's, it's a situation problematic or is that it

would have I'm I'm impression that this woman had been

because it's a woman that's a woman, and I have an impression

that's an woman that had to have to have to have to have

to have what she wanted how she And when I've seen When I've seen, it's quite quite as far as to you'd say to say, I'm sorry, but no.

And then I think that it's all right frustrated a little bit, but I'm a deficit of attention. I don't minding me not to me to sounder too, too, of other things. Yeah, but at a moment of all day, also, when you're not, a link or something of super, I understand, the sexuality, it's intimate, it's personal, but

when you've not, when you're not, the person, when you've never seen, the person, The person, sometimes they're in fact out of your and you know, it's a

work, it's not a real relation, like it's a thing, it's a way, it's a yeah, you go to make do with

and then you and then you're like, you're like, you know, I'm gonna, you know, I've been there

three months, to bring an hamburger, you know, you're not, but there's no, there's a lot, but it's bizarre.

Yeah, but it's, it's been a situation a bit problematic, you know, it had to she,

she, she, she, she, she, why I'm I don't know I'm in the way. Is it

you because she's not because of it's not about it like you're like that I'm not

like that you're telling I'm I don't know I'm not this time that's been these

times that because in a man it had been like eight years and

I'm really really I'm really I've always that I'm there's I'm going to

I'm we're saying we're saying she'd be she'd be she had changed she's she had

changed a but no same. Oh, yeah. And then, there's a

minute, there's a person she said, you know, we're in restaurant, and I,

you know, I try to have a conversation with her, you know, but at every time

I'm a question, she, she, it's a end up. So, I'm trying to continue

with a conversation, I'm all the time, a all the time, I'm,

okay, I'll switch, And I'm, you know, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to talk about what what's going to be, you know, these affairs, the preferences, all right, to do that, for maintain a conversation. And then, you know, we're at a moment of the end, you,

we know, we're going to survive at my life, and he said, well, look, I've got to be on a date, there's just talking to you. Ah. Oh. Yeah. I was, I was there, well, I said, she said,

she said, I'm going to, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said,

I said, and I said, well, it's well, I said, well, I said, I'm sorry, I'm going,

bye, I'm going, I'm going, I've been, that's not , you know, no, yeah, I,

I, I, I was paid, I, we're, we're paying at the beginning. Ah, okay. Yeah,

yeah, I, you know, because, insults after that's I'm saying that's

well you don't you don't you don't you know, oh my dear, someone

someone someone someone yeah, I'm gonna watch, no, no,

we're not, no, we know, whatever, there's a day, there's a thing,

you can't, you know, there's someone, and you can't be able to that, I'm gonna

be able to I'd mindry the clip. I'd could not, I'd would be too fashed,

I'd like that, I mean, I think that, by rapport to that I'm just, I said in my podcast, I've always said in my podcast, I think, let's make one, let's make one, I think, to me make a knee, with someone that I'm not in couple, obviously, someone that I'm not really, but, you know, me to make a genoo, before someone, I don't be in this position there, I feel like if we're utilizing, it's, it makes me feel like sometimes, you know. Yeah, but you're

There's a person Yeah, there's a fool There's a fool The people who I'm really Not like that, so imagine, I imagine even not,

the person I've made chee before, there's just I'm, I can't, I'm, I'm, I'm not,

I'm not, it's impossible so, so, you know, I know, I know, I'm know, I'm sorry, I imagine

that there's there's been you've got to pilly on your or perhaps, or, you know, with certain

person, or is that, of all of course we're not the same values, you know, you'd do it, and you'd say, oh, yeah, yeah. But I'd be capable of susy, it's a conservator.

Ah, so it would be... Ah, no, it would be difficult. But, anyway, how can they can't your service if they're conservatrice? Yeah, but it's because the people who are conservatrice, they're often hypocrites, of that.

Ah, car, right. Because, it's not sensed, it's not sensed, there. There's any of the regs of hygiene, or, no, It's no matter of the regals that you instaure before your rendezvous.

Ah, good question. Because, you say, you say, you said that, you know, it's not but you do something? Well, I've got a list of, an etiquette on my site. And, it's so,

I'll list all the things that you have attention, and, you know, how is that, you, I think, I, you know, during the time

we're in time we're in the discretion of my client. I mean also A douche So if you go To work in a restaurant It's she'll

It's like For you At least Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,

Yeah, Yeah, I'm, I'm just to be sure, you know, I've got to I'm sorry, You know,

I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm not, no, it's so, and it's already Arrived,

also, you know, sometimes, you know, if, if ever, he's, if I'm

something, it's implicit that's the other who they're going to pay. You know, if we're in a magazine of the

lunette, and, you know, there's there's to be used to do you something, it's implicit that

they want to buy to get a pair of a lunette fumate. And that it's not deducted of

their service, let's say, example, you're just a pair at $200 piece, I'm,

yeah, but I'm to have to get to my pair of, you know, plus in this sense

that, that you, you'll be clear? Yeah, yeah, I have a list of like that

and I'm I'm usually I'm wondering if they're before we're before we're for that's clear.

Ah, yeah, because it's going to get to be malise, oh, I'm not, I'm not

I'm not sure, I'm not I'm not, I'm not, you're not, it's so, you're saying, it's a lot of

yeah, yeah, just, just to view that the lunettes, let's, let's, no,

I'll pay also the tiann, and I'd be able to, it's not these affairs that when it's

it's not clear I think it's not clear that's that's super clear the intentions the money all right if you read

my my etiquette I'm going to read your etiquette what your reg of hygiene uh

that's a a douche uh before because as I'm in my etiquette I'm not

really the good of the urine it's it's something it's something it's fashue but everyone

like that the good It sounds like it's far good. It seems it's a big juice of urine

full of night. Plain to wear. Okay, so do doche, is she she has

she has or it can be she's at she's she's sure that you know,

you know, you know, I'm an fresh air a certain fresh air. So,

you know, if it's for a hour and you're in a traffic and you're in

a lavabo, do you? Is Is that you go, is it at all the time who's out of who are,

or do you see to see at the time I'm at the time I'm just to receive at my because

I've felt I've had I've had been in my hour my hour is quite that's

so that so that's so I'm so far I'm just and I'm there were, there were

there were associated to that. Because I'm imagine that the people, in the time I want, if I want a service,

I want to come to go to I'm not... The most in fact, the most of people are the inverse.

Yeah, it's because they want to to be able to to be a person to be in a person at a person at home,

yeah, I'm, I see on the coutos, I see, not the arms, I'm not, not the arm, but, you know,

I mean, you don't know, you know, they're coming in to the cask put on, let's get to my, I'm

too poor. I'm, I'm probably, I'm afraid that people that people, at home and then after that

it's for that I'd go to not in the room of hotel I'm actually it's like that's my accommodation for that's

I'm saying if you go to the hotel Alte in Gryffantown I can go you're going to you're trying

that you offer that that he pay obviously and is is is you can do you

talk you can be you can be the salary along along the service that's

something that's a normally varied uh in fit of the years. Evident,

when I started, I'd offer $300 for a day of complete. Oh, leave that's

not cheille? Yeah, effectively, but I've started. Yeah, I'm going to do you know.

Exactly. Time that you have not of reference or what that's so, you're going to start on

the scale, as we say. And now it's $400 for 60 to 90 minutes. It's something

that I'm flexible. I've seen I've seen that's a pretty part of the person,

especially after the time that it takes to get to get to get to get in to get in

to have to have an intimacy, after that rest to call it and quitted it's about

in 60 and 90 minutes. Oh, yeah. Wait, a minute, we'll

continue the salary, but I know, the level of the level of intimity

for like caline someone, is you more hard than do more difficult in so

and long, is it is the more long or there's a little there's a question

it's because it depends it depends really of the person has been but I'm often what I

feel my clients have been the clientes have been of contact corporal that's

it's something it's something it's something that's something that's something I had a she had a

she had had been very very very occupied. At the arrival, we josephed a little, she'd get, she'd say, she'd get, she'd, she'd, and she'd, and she'll go

in her douch, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, after that, you, uh, after that, you, the, the manner don't, you, see, that, it's because we'd be able, she, I'm caressed,

after that, uh, I'd, I'd, either, or the, so, the suleve, and let's say, the suleve, and the sorry, the manged, and then penetration,

then we're in 15 minutes and then it's repartate. It's romantic. Ah, you're excited? No!

No! No, but it's romantic but I'm imagine it's a romantic that's... It's not too. Because I'm

a person very visual, so you're talking all the time, you know, I've seen, I'm going, I'm going to

ask, and just before, you're the kind of guy who rams in the mur, or plus the guy full tendress, la-l-l-l-l-l-l-la-la, or it depends. It's a very depend.

Because, I'm at the first, I'm a king-key. Oh, okay. You know, I'll offer these services BDSM. A bit of tabarwet. Yeah. It's a fact, and

in this card there, I'm someone of dominant and a person, but I'm someone also who is very sensual and very dull. So, so, I offer a variety of things,

Because, me, at the base, young, I've always been quite quite quite. My co-tie, I'm trying to be able to be in 2017, about. And then, and so, again, it's a... Did you part of the client? No, but, in fact, it's one of my... It's a friend who, also, as Scott, but who is also a pro-dum who,

who wanted to let me let me do. And then, okay, what I'm going. And then, me explain a little, and what she wanted, all that. And it's like to do that's that,

that's it's developed Okay. What's what you want? Oh, you're saying

that's rare, let's see, that's rare, let's know. Yeah, yeah. Well, one of

one of other, to be strangled, so it would be so far, to be

controlled by the chfefe, controlling his orgasm, obviously to the,

of the point of there was, yeah, it was, yeah, it's like at the beginning,

you know, there's not there, there's not a lot of not, yeah, okay,

it's after, that's that's the first, you know, it's the first I'm not exactly

again, if I'm if I'm if I'm that, and then, But it's after that that's developed.

We talked to this, we had received a dominatrice who was an infirmier, and she said that one of the things is more dangerous, it's the entanglement. It's that often the people, they want

to be strangled, and that finally, they don't know how they're strangled, and if he arrives of these problems, you can't get to be in the

medical to know to know that strangulation, it can't Yeah, but it's like a king, but it's You can still know how

I imagine that you have to I'm in a certain moment. When it's like a blue, you're

right. Aright. But in fact, it's more complex than the sense that there's

there's just to have the hand. Yeah. There's that there have the two hands.

There are that have a little of pressure. You can put a pressure but just

in applying on the clavicle, it's so so it's so it's so it's, so it's,

so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, It does an impression of pressure. There's a There's a lot of variation. You can also

apply for to go to get the carotid for diminue the part of sangain a little, which is a kind of a bit of a

I'm a little more so. You also, you can go to get the carotide or is that you're still

still capable to respire but it's the sense that and the sense is because you're

on the sovage. You're on the It's very jolly to be sure on the carotid We're going to consult a professional

of the health okay, like if we're going to be sure. Consulting your medicine, you'll be able to see if you're

doing it. No, but can't even, a professional if it's just it's just for it's like you're like

to have to it's like a imagine. You know, it's a no, consultate a medicine.

I think, but obviously when it's in the professionals, the people who are people who are

I'm habituated, I can understand. Well, it's that, it's not, I've never, I've never, I've never had a person with me who has lost connoisseurs. Okay, but it's reassuring.

Because, we're writing on CV. Person of a person to know-sinceant about. So, my mind. And what's the, the clients, let's what,

I want to, I want to know, I want to say, is what the age around, and it's what he research plus?

Well, it's a lot of varied a lot of in a million, we're

25 to 60 but I'm I'm I've already 20 and 75.

It's hot 75. The purse primarily it's hot that you know,

in the sense that it can be intimidating but but 75, the woman said, even at this age

that, I'm going to do because I want to do it because I'm going to It's not anchored in their mentality we know, you know, we're in this age

that they could not have to pleasure, yeah, no, it's so, it's a how she's contacted by your site?

Yeah, but I'm not exactly. I was going to go to Toronto at this moment and I and I

had braced not a lot she had him and Well, she'd have with an angel casted, but no,

it's not right? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've been, I'm sorry. And then it's not,

because, you know, I don't know, I'm not I'm not the word that I'm that I'm maybe

stressed, limit refroredy, someone of 75 years. She had been, it had been

a lot of for her for her I'm, it's for that I said that I was that I'm

I was pretty brassed and she she had I'm afraid in a question I think of

there's a question, is there have been in there's that you're that you're wanted

that they're in what I'm in what I'm in a way, let's say I'm not, I'm not,

I'm going to get, then I'm going to because I'm going to I'm going to I'm going

that person had been that personette had been nice, I'd have wanted I'd

have offered? Yeah, but it's because I'm not I'm someone who's someone who is

very introvertie and I'm going to be alone to charge my battery so I'm usually when I'm having a person, after that I'm trying to

to say to someone for me it's pretty rare because it's just arrived in fact it's often

because it's the off that's the off that's they're going to be able to restate more long time

you know I've brought more And then it's something that's something that's the money I'm trying

yeah it's like and there and there in plus you're just a new bat you know

a second ride well it's not necessarily because in that it's not

not necessarily to have more to have more of a callin more more of time

together it's I'm I think I'm my degenie like oh my

soup yeah yeah it's not to do you have to do. I like to pass Mama Pussy. I like that. Say it's up to say my lavage, please. There are you guys

who, I'd pay it so. You do my lavage, you do my buff, and you need, and you need to put, between two rites, between two brasses. You know, but in the time, but all my affairs are fed, so, so I'm not quite, because

my, you know, it's so, you have to be the active, it's the same, you know, and it's not, you know, and it's not, you have to do that? No, that's never to arrive, but, you know,

I mean, it's probably because it's not in my services that I offer. But if it it was something that

was necessary, I could would have but it would be more sure. But yeah, but I

think there also the, you know, the, you know, the farm, the farm, it would, it's like,

it's like, it's like, a bit of role, let's be, it's, it's like, you do things,

but for de grace. Put your your house and ches. Yeah, and that, you,

no problem. Faire the gazaon, no way. Oh, yeah. The gazon, the pussure, the neage

to the poulogne? No. No, it's because for me it's these affairs that are all the time

I live in an apartment and I have not to do that anything about of the nature,

for me, it's a merveue because it's these stages that all the time

I'm I'm not okay, so you prefer lavage for that is. Is that

I've already had the clientele, just, of a role, the same that's... I'm going to believe that there's

not much that's not a lot of, I've done in a moment, it's been very and it's really a

couple of times, it's a client regular, it was a few times I saw, and at a moment of

a moment of the time I'm seeing, I've had to have a headache cardiac

when I received, because because it's a courier that had an address different,

and he had a in-theat, and he said, in the card of your next

with Mademoiselle we would we'd that you'd be very soin of this

student and that you'd be disciplined and all I'm just after you it's what

because she had to use an other address couriel with a other

name and she and she had said it's it's it's a

a bit of time to to understand that's a demand of a role, that's the debut of a job of role.

And so, it's so, and there, it's so, there's a thing, it's been really tripeer,

kind of thing, but she had really surprised because I had been not ever and she

had really all made for that so it's realist. It was an student

university I imagine? No, but we had played the role of an student

she's she. Yeah, but she had been having 45 She was going to play the role of an student.

They were not an student. No, no, no, I mean, I'm going to say, it's because, you know, the stereotype, you know,

even, you know, of the costume of an student, because it's like a bit controversial. Yeah, she said, it would say, it would be passed

for an student minor or not. Okay, yeah, but that, in the, in the game Kink, we,

we've made the distinction when, we're, we're often of, It's what we call the age play. It's that

there's a difference of age and we're on this difference of age, but you can

have just, we can not have to be not a difference of age. We're on the difference

age. And there's different categories. You can have some little, the middle,

the middle are more young, the middle are more young, the middle are and that

it's a kink. It's not it has nothing to I'll say, but they're not I don't know I'm going to

say, we're not we're not Professor There's a I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry

I'm gonna but I'm not but I'm you're not That's for that we say to it's king And yeah

Yeah, well At everyone it's king but everyone the person who can be

Yeah I'm sure I'd I'd say I'm not I'm not There's so there person

who would be You don't want to do that. Because you understand that when we're doing a little girl, the person

who will be the old, and the person who will be daddy, it's two people who are consentant and for us other

they're king and they have fun to do that same. Because it you have to get to the person who

will make pleasure to her partner in doing something that she want to that it's

that's the man or that you do you make something that you have not the or what you're

completely idiot okay? There's not question to make pleasure to make a question, if you're not

not going to be and then you're if one of the person who is not content there's just partier, and if she

she doesn't be non-monogam you know, at a moment of a moment you do you do you do you do you know,

it's so you're monogame and you accept the person with who you're going to go to

or so you're non-monagame that's sure, all what's all it's percent and to not

to not have something that you don't want just for platter to another, anyway, it's it will be

it's not it's not true it's a lot personally if I'm if I do something with someone and I'm not

a lot of fun I'm not no, it's a lot of it's all right I'll pass on other other thing

I'm asking to do you to say to my question that I had asked you had demanded if you had

had already wanted to if you had had been there had been there had the two sides of

the clientele to you it's sure that I'm... I'm... I'm... ...who are

close to his emotions, proge of who I'm... And then I'm not a role when I'm

when I'm seeing a client. It's sure I'm attached to certain of my clients that with

who there has more a better connection. You know, I mean, there's a with who

I do with who I'm to play at some table, like, because I'm someone

who's super geeky. So, so I I like all the games of table, the, you know, the games of those, you know, like, I'm so cool, I'm full geek.

Magic? Yeah. Magic? Yeah. I'm on deck of Ange. I'm sorry. I'm, excuse me. I'm, I'm a one, too.

It's the best. Oh, yeah. But, I prefer a blonde-war. I'm a beau-manage, blonde-o. Well, yeah. Chevalier and Ange. Okay, yeah. I'm going to be a chevalier andge.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, okay. But I've got to have a tinge. We'll play a year, we'll play a magic. And then, okay, let's be continue. What's what I said? You said that's attached to your client?

Okay, yeah, that's so. You'd play. Yeah, it's so. You know, that's that's been a lot of, I had, I had a client, the first client

international, she was also geek than I, so on the money, she, she, we had to pass a week of the legal land. Ah?

We'll have to buy them, we got to buy, and they, you know, like the, like the person I said,

who had catist I'm attached a lot to her also we're we're

we're we're we're we're and we chaned she was very

kinky it's super tripa what we did in a moment on a

dominant I had we had we had been and after that I said

okay you'd make a sandwich I'm made a sandwich I'm

I'm I'm at genoo at my feet You know, there's all the sort of things tripping at a moment that you attach

to the other and, you know, it's not obliged to be an love with a but, you know, it's an attachment and it's a moment

when, you know, like the client I talked, you know, that came out of, it was really triper,

I mean that, I mean that, I mean that, it was simple, not complicated, and, you know, we had a,

we had a bad exchange, I'd reparted, and it, and, you, it, My journey

had been made I'd say it's the fun that's it's... And how

you view, meton, the client regular that says the day to come to do you

see a bit like a bit like a bit of a rupture? You know, I just it's,

you say, okay, you pose a question, sometimes when you don't know when you

to put a question, but the part of time, I'm in there, I'm in,

I'm in, I'm in, she, she, she, she, And then she discovered also that the kink and the dulae, for her, it's an anxiolytic

very far. It's a calmed. Enormally. And she could be collared against me and she'd be able to call it against me while that it was a guy who was very anxious, and at a moment of a day, because I, you know, because I, you know,

I'd have encouraged, I'd recommend to a, to, a sexologist that I know, to a, a, that I know, And, you know, and I said, we're talking about we're talking about, and then it's made to see,

to see, to see, in a way kinky, at the exterior, I said, look, what's what you're doing, you know,

that's a red flag, so it's a red flag, you know, I'd say, I'd say, in these relations, all of that, and, you know,

it's, so, it's, it's, you know, to, you, to, the time, it's,

She had consulted her sexologist, and she had been to ask you, I'm going to make a credit, I've got, I've been quite much pleasure

with you, but now, at this moment, I'm going to invest in a month of money, you know,

for my family and all, because I think she had, she had, married with the parents,

they had, they had, they had, they had, they had, they had, she, she had,

she, but, yeah, there, yeah, like, 90% or? No,

I'd say, it's, so, much, so, How much do you stand there their choice? So, you don't

fool? I'm going to I'm going to see. I'm not difficulty to see that a person has

some of the person who's an other person can be able to be able to for me it's a

different I think that in a general I think that the species human is an

kind of non-monogame I think there are people who are in monogamy I think

there are that there are who's conform and that they're not necessarily a lot of people who are not necessarily a lot of people. Well, I think

that's the communication. You know, with your companions, that's not monogam. I have made that way to talk to people who are not monogamous. Is that you

encourage, in on parley, can't even, or I know that it's not not? No, well,

I'm, I'm, I'm there I'm there for the appuied. It's a

saying they're talking to their problem to come to go. So I'm the time

there to give you know, I'm in English we're also of a sounding

board. I'm there to reflect a little on what what they in their life.

And in the fact, they're so they're so they're doing that my first client

at a moment done she had decided to let her because

there's And it's it's that you know it's it's it's

it's not there I'm not there to say what I'm not for their I'm not

the end the person the person that's it's sure it's not it's not it's not

I'm if the women he'd he'd talk he'd be they're

if they they're they're if they they're you want to they demand

you the advice by that to the situation that they live, if they're

in a couple, I'm in a couple, no, not really, they're not really,

the part of be there to be able to the people, it's just when you're not necessarily some of the

solutions, you know just that someone to be able to be able to be able to say to

say to say that and it's that will make that, if it's very that in doing

that, it's real that, it would have that would the person should be ready to do. So it's it's not

to say, well, it's not to say, it's going to say, oh, yeah,

it's going to not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, it's difficult to live, you know,

to be empathic and to, you know, to see, to see, to see, there's not, there's not

there's a solution, you know, there's, there's, there's people, there are people, and they want

to find a people, they don't not how to meet to meet with the world. Well, that, you know, it's that I give

that I give them to I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm going to be the application, the site web, it doesn't not, in the sense

that there are that they're going to find, but that's, it's, it's, it's a good chance.

It's a cut of chance. But if you want to, if you want to, if you want to meet a person, you know, to

be intimate with that, start by to find out of their own, you know, they're who your interests? Well, find you a club

of people who do this, and the people and the activities, aim what you do, and then you'll be probably get

some people with who they're compatible because at the base, you have perhaps you have been a lot of,

you know, and it doesn't say that you will be not the same to meet not even to meet

a person. it's, yes, you can have to have a co-of-chance and encounter these anecdotes and say,

oh, it's like that I'm like a person in a supermarket no, you know, you're not, you know,

to ask you to ask you, I'm going to get a back with, no, fuckette, you know, it's not the

place for, yeah, if the cashier has done the potry, and you'd like to make a pottery, and you're

and then, in a course of potry and that the two, oh, you've had said,

oh, yeah, you've done, yeah, I mean, I'm saying, at a moment, you know, at a few the time of the time of, you know, maybe to do you have a other activity, yes, it's like that you're in a

doing it's not in doing swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. It's a good idea, so, to go to go to the places. Yeah, you do you have to escalate. There are some groups, even on Facebook, let'sone, the group of what you like,

to meet, across, but, yeah. Escalade, celibate. I'm sure, that you have really plenty of passion, and you're going to be voyager. But I'd bet it's not a celibateer. No. No, I'd rest on a...

No, but it's true. No, you... No, not in court. Not in court, but it's like... You go just in a group, in the support, to do you have a lot, but then. But the two groups of bar.

The non-silibertar, and the not-silibertar. Yeah, it's normal. It's exactly that. I understand. Because I think it's not good to have an idea to want to want to meet

someone, and it's the part the most difficult, it's to not have that as a objective primal, you know, I'm

a lot of, I'm sorry by having some with the friends and the activities, it's already to be able to

get to be in these activities that that that perhaps you're going to be a time that's a friend of

a man, maybe it's but at the moment that you're doing things you do things, you know,

but you're more of the chance to meet someone. And you also, no,

I'd just to do a, to be to be different because today, the people

don't know because of people because we're the famous telephone and I'm, my view is not to be

not quite but I'm I'm doing with the telephone I'm saying, I'm going to my dad

I'm going to my day I'm just every week and when I go degeneration I'm not my telephone

and sort of my view in fact if I if I'm to talk to talk

to people like I'm talking to people of people of people because they don't

not the telephone, us also, so that it's a moment of a day, she'll add to something, and then, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little conversation. Yeah, but, like, I'm just saying, a little commenter, and then, boom, and it,

and it's finally, look, the last dayday, I've encountered two monsieur, like, about 80 years, super gente, two ancient professors, one, who was a professor of religion, and he had been a full of, and then, how he'd, how, he saw how, comment, but today,

we've got full to talk, and I've full learned, and for real, it's what I'm that I'm trying a moment, just, not necessarily

like you say, to have the view to get a bit of, but finally, maybe, you know, if it's been, maybe,

it's a chance to talk to to people. Yeah, but just to talk, not with a telephone, I'm

with you, I'm in a car with you, but I'm sorry, I'm talking my blonde on on Tinder. But it's

so, but it's, it's, it's it's true that it's true that It's going to do. It's going to do. It's sure that there are a lot of, but I'm glad that you've got to go to, you know, we're going to

see. It's not a good sign. It's really right. The monsieur, he was really surprised that I had no telephone, and I said, it's a bell phone. Yeah, there's a catarette at the verre, and there's no, the point of your phone, ma'am, oh, no, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, my job, religion, yes, I'm not

to cast a sex. Oh, you have you said? Ah, yeah, man, he said, oh, you know, you're doing, oh, you know, I'm, I'm, Yeah, I think it would be a Peshire. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, you know, it's

correct, he said, it's a new generation, yeah, it's so. It's just, I'm going to go at long-al- -a-l-l

with him, but it would have been, it would have been. There, I think we're going to arrive at the end,

but I've had a question, I'm, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know, it's probably, it could be

to close if you see, your view, your vision of your time, how she has how she has evolved,

how she evolved with the time, from the time? Well, let's say, I mean, let's have implicated

a lot of, in the combat for the rights of the workers, the sex. Oh,

yeah. And then, it's this community that that that's a very, very,

very, that made, to be to be in contact with the person with which

I were rarely in contact, and to To see, all the possibilities, and what's what I mean? For me, the work of sex, my vision of the work of sex, if we make, we'll retire the taboo, is that it's a work that is necessary, in the sense that there are the people who are need

of this contact that physical. Really? And that this contact that physical

it can not be done by a person that they know, or who are necessarily

intimately intemly liy, they have a need of a presence other.

And, you know, sometimes, you know, in a world ideal, I would

the work of sex like a, a, an tool

of a relationship, in the sense that if, let's say, let's say, we're talking to people, you know, I mean, you're in relation with someone, it's, it's a little in pain

of love, you know, you'd like that, you know, to, you know, to ponier someone random, and to have a sex that's poor, or to tattach

to all right to get the good person for you, and that it's going to put in trouble, and then, because there you're engaged and blah, blah, blah, blah.

Well, you'll have to have a worker or a worker's of sex. You know, and it's, it's, and it's,

it's all over this reason that of intimacy, of contact physical, and it gives the

liberty to search for another person, you know, to see, to see, to really to find a

person who is good for you, who will not just the first coming, you,

in the of people who are non-monogam but, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's people,

they're going going to get to different. You know, it can, it can us help

for a dey that we have, it can be a recompense and that it's been to get

the recompense for having passed the matrize. You, it's a person who's been offered that

as a matrize and she, she, she, she, she, It's nice. You know, it's

it can be an apprenticeship after a trauma. You know, I've I've got

used many years like that, where is they're going to be to get to get

more of pressure I imagine than to date and it's more and it's more more and it's

because if we don't, if we're not, if we're if we're if they're

if they're ethically they have a barrier physical but And we, in time Traveyor of Sex,

we have not this barrier. You know, we can go to take the contact and give our dimensions

to the chaminement that this person to live. And it can perhaps accelerate even their

chimimimiming, their guiseon. Like in the podcast, they say, they're a therapist. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, the sex is a form of therapy, it's, it's, it's a

endorphine, it's, it's really many of things. And for the women

also what I think I think cool, that the service that you offer, is there a lot of people who have been in to know,

that he had perhaps never ever knew a man or a person who had done really really really,

who had more to their pleasure so to know this vision that that, hey, wow, I'm able to

be able to be able to be a person, and maybe that it will be guided also to a man

or a person who will think to it will be , it's, it's a idea of having to have

more of pleasure. Yeah, yes. It's sure that for certain people, it's been it's been to give an image of what is that can be a relation sane.

Plus egalitarian. Or if, I'm saying, there are there, I think, at two, or is it, they have ejaculated for the first time with me? There are more than one.

There are, there's, many that they've had to be Kinky. so it's these explorations that are more difficult to do in the rest

of the world with the person because you you know you're you're not necessarily at least

you're not necessarily at least maybe you're a good something different you know you know I don't

technically how the other will react or you the other you're perhaps not equipped for

also they've helped to discover new things. You know, there's a sort of circumstances

that a workerer of the sex has more a plus to navigate or more to help me

to ask me to ask you, I'll put to pose questions. But I'm a minute after that

after that we're going to be on the Patreon, but me also, it's too

good. I'm not to know, I'm not to know how performance because you're

paid for doing something is what you feel because you you feel to be obliged

to offer your your performance of your year of the year that you're a client?

And have you a stress of performance? Yeah, that's true. Oh, that yeah. So, there's

always, the stress of performance is always there, and that, well, we have often

with the stress of performance but it's something for the women. There are there's some also who

want to and there sometimes I'm there's a time, there there are the people who are people who are

people who are they're able to be with me. Sometimes it'll have been a time before to

relaxes and be maybe you're going to get to be going to be going to be quite a

practice, but also I'm my proper stress of performance and I do you

get in saying clearly in my etiquette that's my direction and my orchestra

don't not part of the service it's something that can be present and it's

something that's that we can be that's that's that's that it's

that's quite possible but And it's that's going to that's going to have not an erection, it's going to

have been an orgas, and I've already had these clients who have pleaded in thinking that

it's their fault. Oh, no. But it's not that. You know, it's not

to put not, I'm just of the erection but also it can be the performance feminine.

It's not to be not being not fault. He can have there's there's

there's that there it's, I don't know, I'm maybe not degeneration, I'm probably too much I'm in a

head, I'm a lot of a day, I'm a good day, I'm a sure, I'm stressed, I don't know, there's a lot of there's a factor. Because you,

it's for so that, it's just there, you, it's just that, you know, maybe that my maybe that's not maybe it's not, it will be able

to be in the lubrication, plus, in the fact that I'm ultra crisp, but I think it's it's for

For us, we're not, we don't know, we're like, oh, they bant not, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, I'm not adequate, but you, you're not going to, you're not like, hey, I'm not adequate, you know? But, but it's that, you know, this performance, it's something that's something that you know, the way that we present a lot of sexuality of this time see, in society, it's a lot of performantial. We're very orgasmocentric, and then for the person

hetero, or more who are interested in women, who are interested in, very phallocentric. So, but the sex, it's not just that. The sex, it's really

because I'm not not doing the difference between the preliminaler and the sex. After me, it's all,

and if you think you there's a difference between the two, it's because you don't you make the bad money.

And you're fun to get, you know, it's all, it's all the sex, and at

after the moment that we have a contact physical, especially when when we're poor contropos, you know, I'd say,

it's the sex. You know, we're already, it's already erotic, it's already, and it's so. And it's also important. Yeah, you have your question?

Well, my last question, and it's more in line, because it's kind of important to be, you know, you know, if you've seen a difference with your relations, because the fact,

yeah, the fact that the work, the sex, is a work for you? Is it, that there's a lot of women to work with sex who have no

envy of sex or that sex is really completely different with their partner? Is that you, have seen?

Well, it's sure that I, I have these women of women of work, you know,

that's actually, you know, a big diminution of libido. I've also a diminution of libido.

And, and, what he makes that it has a little Cote positive in the sense that I

I think not the sex all the time it's not all the time in the energy that he's going

to be in other other things so that that's that's positive but effectively

I know I have you know sometimes when I see one of my partner

well I have I just I'm not really I'm not really I'm not

I'm let's say or sometimes because I'm a client the landmine or the

second You have to preserve. Effectively, it's that I do it, and it I have to do it, it's even if I'm sure practically not, because I

do it's attention to that for not just to take of this energy erotic, to be able to keep it,

to keep it charged. It's a certain, it's a certain pressure that it's a certain pressure because I

have already tried, well, Viagra, siallet, these affairs, But I'm really not that because

I get super congestioned. It's completely to bebe it's uncomfortable and it's really displeasing. Ah,

I've never heard of that. For me, for me, for me, for me, for me, I don't know,

there's plenty of other things negative to bring that it, it's not just you band, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's a lot the trouble plus, cardiovascular, camp, yeah, the people that have some of the problems

cardiac and I don't I don't know I don't know at least it's a very much that's a very

more than a doctor, so that's been fed to go to go to do with your other technique

natural, which is life cardiac that's great congestion nasal. It's so yeah,

it's ramped too, yeah, we're in other questions for the Patreon of the

people who have posed many questions for you, so we're so, so we're

so much, so you rest with it, it's a a great pleasure, a grand honor to be able to receive.

And you're also, you were super good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I hope that it will open more more the horizons to this time. And it's not the, the

book of the podcast, it's not to encourage the people to work in the sex, really not

because it's not everyone who can do you know, like it's not that's not people who can be

actor. Like, it's not everyone who can be like, like each people that's not

that's not people who want to be and it's important to be heard, and to know if you're going to do it, and I think

at the end of you have really really said, it's a part of a passion, I think, it's a work that's a

way to make because then you don't, you are not in plenty of other other mitsy. So, so thank you

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