Sexe Oral - Claudia Fontaine: Séduction chez les ados, apprendre à aimer sans devenir toxique

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

Cette semaine sur le podcast, Lysandre et Joanie reçoivent Claudia Fontaine, éducatrice spécialisée et intervenante psychosociale, pour une conversation essentielle sur les adolescents, la s3xualité, les relations amoureuses, le masculinisme et le manque de repères auquel les jeunes sont confrontés aujourd’hui.Depuis plus de 16 ans, Claudia travaille principalement auprès des adolescents, particulièrement des garçons. Elle explique pourquoi l’éducation à la s3xualité ne devrait pas uniquement parler de contraception, d’ITSS et de c0nsentement, mais aussi de communication, d’émotions, de jalousie, de rejet, de limites personnelles et de relations saines.Elle revient également sur une expérience gynécologique vécue à seulement 13 ans, sans préparation ni véritable explication. Une expérience traumatisante qui a laissé des traces pendant plusieurs années et qui lui a fait comprendre l’importance d’apprendre aux jeunes qu’ils ont le droit de poser des questions, d’être accompagnés, de comprendre chaque intervention médicale et de retirer leur c0nsentement à tout moment.La discussion s’intéresse aussi à la montée du discours masculiniste chez les adolescents. Claudia explique pourquoi certains jeunes garçons se tournent vers des influenceurs masculinistes pour obtenir des conseils sur la séduction, le dating et les filles. Selon elle, leur dire simplement de ne pas écouter ces discours ne suffit pas : il faut aussi leur proposer de meilleurs outils pour comprendre leurs émotions, traverser un rejet et créer des relations respectueuses.Ensemble, elles abordent également la p0rnographie, les premières expériences s3xuelles, la m4sturbation, la communication dans l’intimité et toutes les questions que les adolescents n’osent pas toujours poser aux adultes. Claudia partage différentes façons d’ouvrir la discussion sans jugement, notamment par l’humour, les jeux de rôle, les mises en situation et les conversations inspirées de l’actualité.On parle aussi de :— Pourquoi l’éducation à la s3xualité demeure incomplète— Comment préparer un jeune à son premier examen gynécologique— Le droit de poser des questions et de retirer son c0nsentement— Les conséquences possibles d’une expérience médicale traumatisante— Les douleurs pendant les relations s3xuelles et les ressources disponibles— L’importance de la physiothérapie périnéale— Les premières expériences s3xuelles chez les adolescents— Ce que la p0rnographie ne montre pas sur les relations réelles— Pourquoi les jeunes manquent d’outils pour communiquer dans l’intimité— La montée du masculinisme chez les adolescents— L’influence des réseaux sociaux sur les jeunes garçons— Pourquoi certains garçons deviennent en colère contre les filles— Comment accompagner un adolescent qui vit du rejet— La jalousie, les insécurités et le besoin de contrôler l’autreLe podcast est présenté par OxioUtilise le code promo SEXEORAL pour obtenir 1 mois gratuit sur https://bit.ly/oxio-sexeoralLe podcast est présenté par Éros et CompagnieUtilise le code promo SEXEORAL pour obtenir 15 % de rabais sur https://bit.ly/eros-gpopRéserve ta soirée entre amis au SHAKER de ton choix dès maintenant sur https://bit.ly/SexeOral-ShakerAbonne-toi pour ne pas manquer les prochains épisodes!Pour devenir partenaire du balado :[e-mail] travailler avec l’équipe du balado :[e-mail] Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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with these adults, not just that. I've done it, I've done it, I've done a lot, I've done, a lot, but the majority of my experience,

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in a house, and I've been a lot, so it's a lot more more, like that, and I like really really,

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do the guidance parental, but what I like, what you can do the It's a time a period key

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to get some to get some these concepts, of the way, and the people, super out of so I think

it's a beautiful moment and it's a real money and then of the richest for the... It's there

that you have to intervene, more than, and to, and to all all the adults who are,

who are, I'm going to skip, no, skip it, not because it can be be very good good advice.

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that education that not not really. It's not exactly. It's just it's not not used an education

with the sexuality very far. I think we're probably in the same generation and it's clear that we can't that's probably

that's even the people even even the people that I'm like that I'm that can't be able to the age adult

even if we not received certain education, it's, it's, it's a part of my work, I'm, you know, I'm doing, you know, I'm interested, you know, something that's

people who's people who are in fact it's a clientele, to get to be used many people who blockage, of the anxiety, of the problems relational, so it's,

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the masculinism, and all that. So it's a, it's a, it's true, it's true, to respond to these issues

that. Is that you, you can you know talk to be, well, each intervenant, all the people

who aid the people, it's often the people, who have had been, and you've talked a little bit

to your interview, of something that you have been if you've been a sure,

and is, is it has a line with why you why you're there's, it's, it's certainly

that me It's not really to do you know, it's it comes to fact that when I'm more young, you know, like, many people of my generation, I've not had an education at the sexuality, really. You know, it's a very taboo.

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cached than that, even, to be the problem, so I'm like, I'm, like, all the time, I'm trying to I've gotten to get into

that, oh, but if we're not, it's it's not, he's not, you know,

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that in a many, and in they're in having, they're in the time,

it's something, I've got, access to where they were they're going to to be able to I'm not I'm not asking a

question, but he came to get to be able to me to talk and I'm making it's there's many people

I'm made you know to do you with the education to the sexuality but at the intimacy, at the relation

or to our emotions, there are many of today are not as even not as as far as

as important taboo, sensible and yet it of the law of the couple, plenty of problems that we have.

So I think it's super important to it's quite a mix of my experience and of the gross good sense I think,

and of what I observe again today. Okay. And we can not say, but it's for that I said

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the relations, and all of course, there's also, there's a part of preparation to your health sexual, so, a,

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and I'm going to, and I never, never, person who has , never, never person who had the medicine, that I was going to

ask, so, in fact, I'm just, you know, well, we're just, you know, we're going to make the

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because on the cause when person you say nothing, and it's a normal, you think it's you're the problem, it's, you

see that, it's so, you're just, because we're just, I'm going to make the genecology I'm okay

I'm not so I'm not what I'm, I'm trying, I'm 13 years, I think, I'm trying, I'm really,

I'm really young. So I say I'm not. The medicine is like a figure of authority. I let us

to do it to do you. I'm going to I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My God, I'm done and I'm finished

and I'm like perfect. I'm going to do you're like a prescription. I'm like, I'm sorry really because

I said like my question but what's that's coming to me come to be it's very intrusive that you

get to an entic and I'm I'm sorry my parents And then I'm like, I'm like, that's the same,

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they've been they've been they've been they're doing, she'll be accompanied at the hospital, she said,

she said, she has due be prepared to that. There's a problem of communication. And I think

today the medians are a little more conscientized to be able to get to get a good, but it's clear

that it's that I'm doing a, you I'm, just to today, I've not past a

a past a crisis of panic. It's never arrived, I've really have a misery.

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to fail a little to not be capable to accouching like the other, but today I see more that like, I've repried

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really have really to find the line with this first experience, that at what that's the thing,

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if I'm on the table medical, with the light, I'm really, I'm really, I'm not able

to just be able to be able to just be able to but just be able to be an ambiance of hospital, the air

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sort of hypnotherapy for calm that, ah, it's been it's actually today,

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I'm imagine it to go and I'm going to I think it's not the most the best of

my life but it's not a lot of it's not a because even during my marriage I'm said I'm sure

I'm sure on a I've been going to get a suviseach woman to have a lot of

and even with the women with the people who have the respect to you have been not able to

have been to have been but I'm I'm not so I'm never there because I'm there's always

you know you're sure more worse but with the new restriction that it's the 15 minutes there's blocks of 15 minutes

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so the infant, the adolescent who will live that for the first I imagine that it's really that's really flat for that

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what I'm trying, to be ready, and it's terrible, that, so, that's something that's something that I offer, in my service

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call the 8-1, it's great, just that's sometimes it's long, and to have someone who's and have someone, and you know, and I'm not a doula, it's really not that, but it's to be

to prepare to return to the home, and have someone, and I'm supposed to do do you're supposed to do, what, and I'm supposed to do that moment, it's, it all right, like, it's, you think,

it's going to mourn, and I'm, like, I'm, I'm calling who? I'm, you know, I called my satchfamble, and she was like, I'm like, I'm just, I've been done to help, I'm saying, I'm doing, you know, it's a lot, you know, it's, but...

But, yeah, that's been pre-the-tele-the-tele-law, there's a lot of people, and there's a lot of and that's... The fact that, you know, that's the whole of course, you're doing, and that the second where the baby is out of, you know, you're left to-o-mame, bed.

Yeah, it's really... You're supposed to know, and, and, it's like, quite part of the preparation pre-natal, that, the... I'm going to come to what's the thing would be that's the

thing is the thing that's what the matter of that's not what's the thing that's what's going to get to happen

my emotions just like they will be in how you can't be to get to get your how you

you can't help you yeah I think you I'm sorry I'm playing yeah I'm playing

and I'm saying well I'm well I'm well I'm I'm really you're really just really

in my normal we're in bed you're like all right, it's just that's not easy to get, and you know, when you're a cesarean, you don't move to

not, you know, so you've been to be able to you know, you're not an inutil, you know, it's a fool, I'm saying the person

the abuse inutile. Clearly, it's, it's, it's, it's a matter, so I'm able to my wife, and my child to be able to

get a little I'm just the thing, I'm just the same and you're just to give a break, but, yeah, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I'm full important, and I don't know how we're coming like,

yeah, reprint the power and it's that's going to get to be going to get to get to because

to get to do you know and it's and then you're to get to it's, you know, it's like, like I'm

like I'm like to do you do it, but to get to get to it's a time, you know, when you're

when you're going to get a preparation at the physical, to understand to understand to come to your life,

and then after, and then you know, the limit personal, We're like it's all like an angle more that's not

about a lot of people. It's abouted in a house of young. I've done done because in the time you have the time to do you do with and you're doing what you're

on what you're and they're doing they pass all. You pass the generations in the first time and they're all they're all right that they're going to

live so. So we've done we're doing that we're on the school and recently I've been to ask you having a story in

my own time just like a I'm a friend and I'm asking the question to join you I'm saying hey we're

we're coming to to work on on the atolliers of relations limits personal, interaction social,

health, sexual, what is what is doing it is there and what's it's inters

contraception, psych-mastruel of the femme, consentment, it's more that.

The hormones. Yeah, he can't also a bit the aspect

relational there there. It's to be about but not much

they're maybe the impression that they have more the issue they're more I'm not I think

I think that now I think now they're a question in a court of people who are in the school in the school

in the school and that that's a question that would have like the mandate of the

relations and a bit the cityity Quebeccoise so all what's what he

will do you do you want to he's people they're talking they're talking

so many they're talking they're talking they're talking to relations. And then there's an atollies that

started to be able to be on the prevention of the relations toxic, the cyber defense, the prevention of the aggression sexual also. The Calax don't know

a lot of that. And I'd say that I'd want to go to go ahead and in a little ecosystem to help people to help you

think it's a problematics, it's people that people people might be people who and who can explain what and

after it's why it's about what to do it, and I think that it's someone who educs on, yes, but what's I'm doing,

what I'm doing, now that I'm that I'm trying, it's what I'm not that I'm doing, but I'm develop as well there's more

a little bit flue sometimes. It's a little that I'm going to add to what? Before, to go back the adolescents

and the seduction, is that, what, what, what, to do you, my doctor, that,

your doctor, that's, if we're, is a bit of, is, is, is, is, is,

is, is, is, is, you see you see some of the light that's

you're received it's a better than you know, it's a after the time I mean, I mean, I'm

like, I'm going to be a gap, it's been really really long but with the psychotherapy it's really

really really really about really, you can do you do you can't do you can't do you know, in preparation

at the then quite I'm to be to get used to be some bit to get

to get there's I'm learned that you're that's when you're when you're I don't even if it was that,

I mean, it's just the fact that, you know, we're learning a lot of things, but imagine a ado who has these first relationship and who doesn't not too, why, who doesn't want to be not quite, but it's important,

that we say, that it's important, that's why it's not that it's all right, it's all right, to say that I'm in the detail, to say, that I've been

not a example of clients that I've accompanied, because it's confidential, but there's not the client that I have been accompanied who have lived these traumas for who I said

impossible. You nirre never much, quitted this bureau and you'll be like that, it's never to be able to, you know, I don't know, I'm able to surmounting in doing the psychotherapy. It's, if you want, it's a matter, the trauma or the blockage or the

more experience, even if it's not a trauma, it's not even not a problem, it's not a problem, but it's anxious, pass an exam, it, it's not yet, it's uncensored, it's a chance, it can't, it's a lot of course, even if you've got a good experience, all that you can

go to search to the aid of the validation of the and the information and I think think we're in quite a problem

before to get to get to get to get and to get, and I'm at when I see to the physiotherapy that could be

desensibilized for the examines for the course, I'm like, my, my God,

I'd have been a bit before you. You're trying to me say that's been to be

a few and that's there's and that I'm if I'm if I'm if I'm if I'm

if I'm probably to probably I'd But it's the only thing, is that if it were more discussed, it was more made of the avant in the milieu of youngness, and for the parents, all the world would be better more informed. It would be more easy to go to search these resources

that that are accessible, in plus. The physiopinial, it's kind of the same setup, that's been cached on a table, and you do you do, that for you, it's been more easy? It's been more easy, because, in entry to judge, I've talked with the physiotherapist, and we've had used a moment where we just, we've asked,

the first visit, we just talked. So it's the idea, I've seen the place, we've seen the way, and I've seen, and I've seen,

I'm not the gross light, I was sure, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she said, like, I'm going to get, a door,

and we're going to get to and you're for you, for you, for you, to have made,

the move, to go, and, it's what, it's what, yeah, but, I think,

It's the accouchement that he made. Because, because, I would, because I'm going to, but I'm going to, I'm going to, essentially,

there's something that going to be the thing that's going to so I'm going, so it's not, that's going to help. The Sachevam also

had encouraged to go, so it's really cool. Maybe it's someone who's it's a question, and it's like

that I've heard that I've been going to go really to go back that. And that's it's just, I'm afraid of

there's a lot, there are many there are many of people who have people who know that's not that it's straight.

Well, yeah, I'm saying, I'm sorry, but it's not I'm sorry, it's not you know, and that's a problem,

in the world, and that's a problem that, I'm foogial, right, but the water cull, a little part of a few and I'm,

so I don't my my own at a grand gout, if you go, it's, so I've got to that, so I'm in parwet,

so I'm really something, I remember, and it's what the name, and it's not It's not normal. It's not normal, that.

But you just just be hesitated, in fact, you know, at all the end up to be able to feel like, but it's not chill,

I'm gonna be sure. That's not correct. Never that can't be able to do. It's normal in the card that you've been

and that's that's, it's, it's not normal to say, it's not normal, but it's not normal, but it's normal

in the card that you have been a but it's normal in the it's a trade, it's that it's so,

it's so, it's true. It's so. There, I think, there's a question that I really want to ask because there's,

but I'm going to go to see, it's going to. It's going to. It's going to. Is there a changement particular that

you've seen in the ados of the 16 years versus those of today? There's something of markant. Or it's

all the same affair? Well, the context in the context in the context voluntary. It's sure

that because of that I'm access all the time to their real personality, I think, in class,

it's changed because they're in a relation of authority. What I observe is that when I've started, often the

young, they're at the end- would be to be the more, and now, it's even

not to contested, it's remet in question. And the thing, I see that relatively positive when

it's made in the respect, and it's something that I'm always encouraged

with the young, you have a milieu of life, we have some if you're

if you're if you're if you're a lot of a lot of a lot of I'm in a question,

it's not a question, it's really correct. I'm always encouraged the, we're going to get the guidelines of life for the

well, I'm for your security, and can't be able to you're in because you're more than you than I'm

I'm ready than the same to get to equal to so, so I'm sure, I'm sure you're that's important,

because when you're you have you have a respect for the people, but you do do it's not what you're not in question because it's going to

be in some where you'd have to do say no, maybe you're doing maybe you're doing before you're doing something, and it's important that you develop

your judgment. And it's always that's what I'm when I'm doing discussions, of the atollies, it's, I want that you develop

your judgment critical. So, an atollier, me who vire in chaos and that's the people and that's

that I'm interested, and that's what I say, like, and these people the proffes, they're like, no, no, but he talks

of the subject, it's perfect. They're all right. They're like, no, but you're not a rapport. Yeah, but she's not but I'm like, but it's perfect.

It's what we're, we're like they think they're going to be able to they're doing it, so I think they they're doing more today.

I mean, what I want to do more than the question when a proff do something so they're going to call your bullshit,

let's say, so if I'm if I do you know in a lot of in a lot of in a lot of really, yeah,

oh, yeah, oh, yeah, but they're You're saying, like, you don't have a rapport. They're generally more respectful by the fact that I'm an invite. But I'm just doing to get remorse, really. And so, on the affair, even if, at least the young has a point that has not a rapport, or, you know,

I know, I know that's based on nothing, but you're to be there. And you've got to be a manor. The servo, it's not finished. This affair, so, he's on is there. So, my job, is to be to be able to be there. How, it's so, my job, is to do you know, I'm going to give you

to continue to to make chumining that, but I'm going to accuelly to, even if it's something of an impoverable. And when I'm doing those people,

if I say to do the young who's not reason, and if I do you're doing that, then essentially, I'll have asked to listen to, but I'm going,

what I'm going to be able to be there he's capable to be able to be in question, and these comportments and these comportments are assy on

some people, are asked on some people who have done who have seen and they're I think the best way

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other. Is it? Is it? Is it is more more of discur masculineist

in this moment in your Yeah, there's there's more but after it's not, in me

the chantions that I see, the The Mason of Young and the class that I've seen, it's not a majority of the young. After that, they're not all

all over those expresslyly, but those who were that were in many people, they said, by example, it's always

in the class, they said, yeah, but, we, we, we, we're thinking, we're saying, we're not, generalized on

all the world. I think that the young have always to think, to the influenceer, that,

apporte, just that, not a problem, you've got to have to be to listen, and you, I've got to

rarely have seen of the young who adder to absolutely what's what's brought to do you and they're

going to be able and let's and what's the way the artelier to do the thing is out of seeing that's

the same influencers who are the same coaching of seduction, and we're trying, and we know, we know, it's horrible

what they're saying, but who don't they're proposing something to their children, in the fact, if they're

just those who they're learn. Is we're like, we're like, okay, but I'm going to keep to keep the best of guidance

like, I'm doing this one of people who are to understand what I'm doing, especially for the young, we've talked about about

these un-selled or the young who are doing who are full-met in the friend zone and who come back from the fashes

because, and that it's very ethereo-normative and binary this discourse that, but it's the three, it's the problem

that they reject, so we're so it's often related to the people who have this discourse, you do you, do you have a

with the isolation? It's the young who are more isolated? There's a question, there's a question, which is perhaps,

which is probably to have asked, how you see that, a reject, how you react that, how you react to how you react to be

to get to their own, they're not correct. You can't be farce against the because they're not.

Bonn' journey. And then I'm like, okay, but the guy, there's a lot, we're doing, we're all,

in the air land. We know what's what's going to do. It's a minute. So, what I'm to have to have to have with them. We're going to normalize that it's to be a little bit of, you know, to be able to get

to get ridged or live a rupture or have the impression to be in a friend zone. Personn't that doesn't know, people don't know what? So, we'll have

to be, and then I do you, and I'm going to the line with us on, the zone sensible that that comes to to try to see with, it's in to it's in-toe,

and when we're when we're talking to say, the jealousy that I'm the other, it's my insecurity I could try to control the other.

You don't know if you're not, you know, you're not, but my insecurity she will not disappear. She will be able to be able to be able to because the other

will just be able to because she doesn't my insecurity. Tandiske to if I'm sure my insecurity and then I don't discuss

in a better sense. I bet the book, I'm saying, it's like, it's the same subject that we're

having to be a word of Yeah, and how we're doing? And how much? Well, in the communication

it will change much. I've got to arrive here in doing a crisis of jealousy. That's very, very drool. But, you know,

to say, I'm secure because when you talk to say it's a person, but it's you're all able to identify that it's not

to get to to get to to get to to try to but you're not a adult of 30 years. Oh, but you'd be surprised

how there there's a old old of not, really, really, really, really, but, you know, I think I

I'd be able to have been able to do that or to end rive two minutes after, at 16 years. No.

It's clear. You can't you know, and you're in intense, the emotions. When we're when we're

at all, it's all right, it's pretty a feeling of I'm in the person of my life. The other

are different, and it's quite important, is hyper encombrant. So, it's clear that it's very intense.

So how you do it, we're doing, we're, we propose a young, or to go to get a

little of help, or we're trying to let's see the people, let's your name,

and, like, really jealous with her partner because he's full of insecure, how you could you could be able to say it's a lot of

sometimes it's more more than you're more I'm sure that would probably be able to do you know, but I'm probably to have more than to get to get

to get to to get a lot of something really intense a trauma, a dependence where the school will refer it but to say

I'm interested by some people and it's always they're more to say I'm more more tendency to say I'm the right to go to

get the right to get to be consult because you're an ado and you're in an ado and you're in a idea of time

this option would be valid all right, you're valid all the time so it's to go and what's going to

get to find, and then you find you can't get the real problem, so my problem is not my jealousy, it's that I

feel not not bad in my car, so how I can't work on my esteem to my

and more the pitched in the face of the other, and have having there's

there's there's there okay, there there's there okay there's a adult who becomes perfect

at this level that but just at the point, we're in when we're in when we're in this color

to be in a kind of a and how to get someone and how much you're in the little bit of

like if we're like a little idea with a sexologist and then we're like you know,

we're just out of maybe, maybe, perhaps, arc, no. And then I'm in the

acos arch, no. And I'm saying to be really on being on the

but if I reject someone saying, arc, no, it's obviously the person

will be very gente, so the two two sides. How do you know, how much to the person? And how can't

accept that, I'm not the control on the fact that this person not interested to so, how I'm going to get that. And then it's really,

and that's a idea that, it's really really, because he had passed to podcast of Sonia Von Sachs and he

talked to like, it would be, like, so it would be, but people I'm trying to do that.

We're trying to do, we're going to be but we're trying to it's like, but the response it's really positive. The people are really content, the

people are really content, that we're able to that, and we're deciding to push even more more on more than some some things. It would be a brainstorm.

It would be sure. We've got just to with the ados at all the to, like, to chill. Okay, we want

to know the date perfect. They've been on don't know It's like, it's in talking about Mark, because, I'm in my family,

we're 13 cousins, and we're two cousins. And one day, we had decided that we'd have to have had to be your first year, and that's been

to say, their first date. And it was done full of regal. And it's a car, but I'm going to do that for, you know,

because with the ados, it's be a little bit, so the step, one, is the hygiene corporeal, if you please.

The day when you go to your date, you'll leave the hair, you, you're doing to do you, It's wrong, but you've got to tell them to do this med video.

Faf, to not neglige the hygiene corporal, it's a lannibal, but we say, this simple effort, that, show to the other person, women, no, matter, that you've made an effort, that you've considered, that you're prepared. You know, just to make, we're on the implication and the effort

that you can put to make to show to make the other person that you're still in, so, you know, we've got to do do with, you're doing with, to be brosceled down med, but for having, to work with the ados,

sometimes it's not a key for all the world, and it's not that's not, that you think that the other person will you accord an certain importance. So I'm like,

well, he's the first thing, it's the first thing, after communication. Let's not that you're

not the day that's the time, to get a lot, and that's to be a person, finally,

finally, he's, it's not to be, to be, if you're not, I'm, I'm not,

my way, I'm not, you're not, to create a communication and to talk, and then,

we're creating a bit of course, and we're , we're used to be to be able to to talk about how we feel the originality

of the date? You know, you have the right of just chilley, but you could first, go to see,

if it's if it's not if you tripe on gaming, and you don't never talk about with the other person,

you'll invite to it to get to because if she she'll like that, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she'll be, maybe you have not a great thing, you have been to find that you probably to ask,

and if it if it's not to try something that you have in common who will you want to to try to

the new, the two together, and after, then, then, I'm in a 15-

you're not a crisis of the scene, you're not you're doing any of the job, I'm like, you're in

a job, like, the hotel five-est- and the restaurant, and I'm like,

even I'm, I'm not that, okay, maybe I'm not sure, they're not there's not

there's been there, for there's sure that's that they're there's sure that the school and the school and

the school and the school and there's there's there's there's a activity

Disponim We said, you're not obliged to two. It's a kind of a school that's

a little bit of a little bit of a lot of but you do you do? If you do, we're doing to get in front at midday and

after we're going to get to be able but it's different than just chill it. We can go to try

to play to go to go to work. There's you have to all your way, but after you can

have a little job and try to try to try to try to try to try to try can't pass the

of ma'amop at the Yeah, it's sure. Tete, you're talking, they're doing

the money to live, you're talking to have a good reason, you're having a date. So, they're

talking, they're talking, they're talking, they're Alasar Plus, Lasar Tang, I was, like, yeah,

it's like, I'm, because I'm going with the young, and it's the only moment I'm not

a intervenate, I'm just a little and I'm to end up that, I'm done, that's,

it's the moment that I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, It's the sole... I don't know a chance.

It's the only moment, yeah. It's the same. In the game, it's like, perfect, we're trying, but all the other

tag, no. I'm going to do me. It's not saying that I'm doing this attitude, like it's a competition just

to break, and I'm just I'm just crazy. I'm really not really. It's really it's good. It's better.

It's more. It's more because if we're on the bat, we're really for real. I'm a person,

I'm a much example. When I go to Lasertag, I think it's really so, it's really really. But after that

I'm doing, look, I'll bris of anything. No. And then we're not. We're not.

We're not we're not. We're talking. We're talking. So, so there's there's a lot of

to talk about to play of evasion. Sometimes it's a bit more cooute, but there's in the

house in the house, phone, and at double tracheard, that, that's not

a blind date to do you not. Not a blind date, maybe not. Maybe not. I think you've never You've never seen the person

Like, you know, you have a year In a house Embarrie I'm in a barren I'm not in mode You know It's not in a lot of If you're

If you're If you're more Competitible In a escape room You'll be Maybe that's not You'll be You're not

You're not You're not Concentry to You'll be You're not You're not I'm gonna You'll be

You're in a Interpose to Putt over To put up You're There's been And then where the key? Well, after that,

it can just go and my time. We can't go and be able to and I'm sorry. Oh, my do you know, it's sure that the podcast is terminated.

Oh, my God. It's been the last time. Hey, I'm full nonchalant. I mean, I find some ideas by the other

time I've opened a ball, there had a mart in there, I'm trying, but like, person has tried the mask

for the phone. So, so I think, I think, I think, people, but I'm really nonchalachalant.

I let's all I'll give I regard the little crot and I regard the things I think it's it's a ral

in caval It's a great room It's a great really great really good A house house

on T T's a little cochele like sexual Yeah it's like We're We're

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and on the issue of the relation. It's a part of the game, and then, my friend, he said, not game of Canadian, he me, he said, not game, to pluggy, Wynkretki, who says, in life, you will be manned percent of detail that you don't, and then,

I'm playing, but, but, but it's true, you go, You're going to to be a cheque it's a way, I'm saying the

world, and I said, the statistic of people who are in people who are not quite not much,

okay, so when you come to want to want to work and it's true for the relations of work, there's

relations of your life, in there will have there, have some there, there will have the frustration, it's how much to get it

and how much to get some self-o-o-o- -rereli-to-reli- and so It's really that the tools that we want

to be good for all it's really that's that at at the level of the people

where is you don't know the advice for that's the reject and

all, let's let's a thing that if you if your son

had a cast head and then I'm there to look and

I'm to watch I'm I'm like he's like he's like he's before he's

before he's I'm not able to But I let's for sure, and try to try and try to do it? So what's you have like a trick like that that can make in a lot of the kids have less fear of, to lose or to reject? You have exposed, already.

You know, it's for that person in an end have vukes. There's frustrations, the reject, you know, we see, an infant who's a lot of getting to get these frustrations. It's a lot of, so, sometimes it's contraintuitive, or sometimes we're just in there who are doing crises in repetition, but, sometimes we have envy to, like,

to avoid the crisis, but you're trying to make the young live these experiences and they're in while in fact, you get fashed, it's correct, you're kind of

not even not used what you want to do that and then you're going to do that and get it. It's just to learn to, it will be these emotions

uncomfortable and how gerry this incofort, that in front of you, in the way to put the putt

on the other, so to make the responsibility, it's a bit, it's it depends a little, obviously, it depends

always the context but to not hesitate to go ahead and there's plenty of of tools in line if there's just there's people that's coaching family

to the guidance parental for to give a cut of mind the type of the encardromance that you have, the energy that also,

and the things you have to have for your children and the type of that you have with your own, we can

put to put something to get something to try to get to referrace to the resource. Sometimes at

especially at the time, it's more difficult sometimes to receive have some of their

colleagues, there's that's over super good, but to have a lot of people in the

people who will be in a little in the time in the time, you know, there's a idea of

to do that, like, I'm, that's like, to say that there's not necessarily who have a relationship with their parents,

it's just, it's just, it's the impression that's more sensible that information that, they're having to have to be

with a person new, they've been on talking to we're using, we're using, we, obviously, I try to

to take to to turn to and on with your family the most possible. So it's to work, I think, the relationship, the experience of the emotions. As parents, as a adult,

also, if I'm not made this boul, that's possible to be difficult to accompany my own family, to do that, if I'm sorry to to get my emotions,

or that I'm a lot of difficulty in my relations, it's possible to to be difficult to my own to my way. It's possible

that I'm going to get to help for my situation to me, for after that, to have some that also, it can be interesting.

And that's, of the aid gratuit for the parents or it's all there's a lot of there are many, there are many of them they're often as they

they're working by mission it's like a problematic a thematic in the form so if you've lived with the

dependence you've been the center of the dependence you've been there's there's a community

specializing in trauma if you're if you're going to go to try to you can't go to private

but you're there's there's a way to an act criminal in your life, along the criminal, but you can't go to get a

indemnization for victim of a criminal and there's plenty of people like we, we can accept these mandeal of, so you've made pay your

your own, you've lived with something about the CNSSST, the SAQ, if there's there's a recuance,

so, so, it can't be to make a bit to have a bit, without having to have to bea

to get a money, and then, it's not the resources gratute there are, there's a lot

there, there can't many, there can't a lot of people, but it's worth to regard, because there's a

idea of the time, there's a lot time that's not that's a lot of that's a lot that's not a time, if I'm there's been,

we're able, we're able to cellular. Yeah, that's been a great, you've seen the TikTok, it's a drove,

but there were the young who had been there's plenty, I could be more far to do cout in the attal

because they're not their cell oh, okay, and that, of what? De Caut, it's like a quiz in

line that the young could have the application on the cellar and we'd projected that and the people were in live

respond on their cell and it was it was in a lot but they're doing it's yeah but you

do you think that's a impact positive really long term because there clearly it's where you see where you

see the problem you see you see more you know to do you know to do you know the people

when the people you're when you're talking you're you're asking you you know where it's just you know what's

Justly, of just the discourse masculinists or... Ah, yeah, a result... I'd have a more social...

Plus resos of social. ...dive, sometimes of the clash of culture. You know, when you're

in a culture that's different of the times, it's not to be partager your values of...

of the discor masculinists. I've heard that, there's a... let's... let's say, that I've got,

a couple heterosexual, that we're that's married, that the family, that's in the family

to find the different... to differentiate, if you're all all the two all the two every two people have the

same rights and people have the same people are the same and people are a discro masculinist on the race social where we're really about

the woman comes with the pressure of your family and you're obliged to you're always a little

against the women there there's a lot of social I'm not to make a lot on the

food on the education of the parents because I'm saying now that I'm now that I'm

remember even more I'm rarely view of my career that's not their parents in my

career that they'd like not the point of the fact of the fact of the fact of the but I'm in

you know, I'm doing it your monoparantal to this child, you work in I mean, I say,

it's a that you don't know that you don't have to have a time, you don't know

the research of solution, how we can support the parents who have been using the tools,

who have been the money, who have been to of a game to be able to the discussion, who would have

a million to be in a life for that the people who are to receive certain things that can't receive at the

I'm not in, we're doing a good of parents than we're in but the social, it's sure that

it's sure that it's a access to a lot of different to so it's a so I think that we can

respond in making developing the judgment of the young on you receive a packet of

information you're so you're so much than we when we were when we're

How you let's try these information that, how you decide, you know, what's to do you, what's to adder, what you're, to accept that will be a reflection in evolution.

I think it's not a bad thing that's the same thing, after that, at the time, we're not supposed to have to be able to know with us,

depending on the job that we do, but you know, we don't, we don't know the Wi-Fi to young, and the young,

they'd left their cell to go to and it all the time, all the time had all the time all the time and we did sell their cell to and we

had d'allel their cell to and we'd and it was going to be like to sort of often. There's always, it's like, oh, how do you have to be able to have, where they're doing, and they're like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's so that's going to pray to donate

to the poor, and it's, it's never long that we'd be doing to do with, and the young, you'd be like, and then, you'd like, launch my cell, and I'm going to find out of other so, so it's not, I think what they're that's the interdiction of,

but, me, when I'm when I'm coming these young, I've rarely used the problem of, hey, launch your cell, the child, the, I'll leave more with these adults. Oh, yeah, really. It doesn't

not. And the young, let's talk and they say, ah, it's, it's not

my, my dating, and I'm there's a there's a thing you can, like they're like,

you know, apparently the civil that's a thing, so it's a time for that's a

date, but, you know, to approach someone, there's there's, there's,

there's, there's, there's there's sure there there there's there there's, it's the fun

to observe, what's what's what's on what you're going to be what's going to and then you know, you can't ask you,

you're going to see the other person how they're doing, because, you know, sometimes we're centred a little on the adolescence. Blanche adieu, there's a lot of

all I'm interested, like, that I'm interested in somebody, say that the person is interested to me. After, to try to decode certain signals, but there

is nothing that is more sure than to pose the question and to have an response fa, so I think that there's ability to communicate

will come in because it's super gendal, let's ask to someone, we look sometimes in the eyes

in the way it's it's really it's super general to say, we know, we're like

we're like to we're like to talk, we're able to talk, but we're not not in action and the ados have been

often to experimented something for really it's really to be able to say, well it's it's not,

they're going to make my hand on my own I'm doing an example of young, I've done

an form of the person for the education in our young, and I'm when is

when is when is the young is and had come to to get a minute, and you know, you know,

and it's not good, and it's never, you know, it's never to say it's um, the ideas, and the index,

and the information, and you'll accompany in its, in its own in the form, so it's the same thing, at the level of

a little, it's, that I'm going to give these and we're going to be and we're doing,

in Maison of We've made, we've made, the theater forum, it's it's really, it's a pass or it, but

theater forum, it's a bit like, of the improv, where I'll do what I'm a new first thing,

so you're playing, let's you know, some people who have done, and the scene so finish mal, and then

you're going to be there's a re-jue, but you will make in a scene of a situation, so you will have have some

you'll have more communicate, and there's like it's like, for real, it's like, it's like, it's caves,

and we're, and we're, and we're really really very really very really very droll, but it's, it's not,

it's not, it's not, it's not, because there's because there's, but in the young, they're in a

new time, they're like to be the animator, you'll like to be doing the animator prefer, and then you're very new people, they're very content,

they're really, they're really good, and the fact that they're like to make, to make, that's made,

to do what, after, after, it's sure that they're more able to do it and the other angle, is to try to

the other angle, it's, like, if your family would be that, how you'd how you'd

how you'd be able to how you're, it's a bit to say, oh, well, it's I could have it like to accompany like,

and then they can't really, they're like they're in there, so it's a good, I'm a

judgment, autonomy and made in practice, if we're it's a bit of the time, there's

there's there's really marked the parkour that you've seen, let's, who they live

with you, maybe, or some, or the young, who were that's full masculinists

and that now, now, now, it's a bit of the story of the same,

that I'm it's relatively recent, not, but, but, you know, there's a story,

there's a lot, there's a group of guys, I'm going to get a group of guys, I think it's to be able to me to make a idea, they're

doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going to get to the porn. But, you're very drow,

but, like, they're all sitting, and they're looking, they're saying, it's not a word, and they're like,

they're like, so, have you any questions? Ah, you're pretty, I, that I was in the studio who I was like, oh,ps.

So, like, I was going to have to have jazze? Oh, look, look, look. And then, hey, we're jazze it in, like, two hours. Yeah. It's really bad. It's really interesting. It's really bad. It's really hard.

It was really hard. Oh, he was like, fuck. We thought it was. We're open a port that we want to. But it's often that. It's rare, a nodo who will say, I have some questions on my sexuality. They don't do.

They're going to be to design to desks everywhere in the men's own, and they're going to make these jokes of sex or to want to do not, well, I'm going to say, well, it's the time. You have some of your question, and you're getting janeed to say, we're in on par, the condom. Fere, do you know, and I'm telling, these condoms of jones.

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the young, they're just in the nose, in the under the knee, and they so they soothe and they soffes and they're sort of and they're in and they're just they're just like that

they're really. After that they're still pretty, but they're too pretty for me, the condo, I'm just like on the whole

made out of the we please. I'd like that. I'd like that but when my son, we're getting on the age,

clearly it's probably, you'll be the same you've been to look at my man, and then you I can't even

never heard of talking about I'm just that's really that's really that's really, that's really, But you know, just that, this anecdote,

you know, you're faced to a situation that would permit a lot of people, mal-alice, that you know how to but you're rodded to, well, it's a door that moved a beautiful. He's trying to me provoke,

but I'm going to, I mean, it's going to be a-potter-a-ha-car who's out of the stouto'clock. And then, yeah, I didn't know, I'd say, there'd be able to do vip under it. And then, we're not, we had a machine at a buchamp, so, they're going to get

the ingredients of the liquid that we put in in a booker and it's true that's quite quite very much to have a

very much more if we're in the way, why we're not there's a lot and there's a thing you have a way, so I'm

not the law, so I'm not doing it but I'm know the effort of the sort of like, well, you know, that's true.

And after that I'm quite, if it's made with a lack of rest of or someone who's to have been

to work with the adult you have been quite the because they're to confrontate like that and it

could be easy to be shaken a bit and say, like, well, we respect not my authority, but I'm like, but it's not really that they respect not my authority,

it's their job to questioner, and to provoke, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm going to be going to be able to that's a way security and responsible,

the number of connery and the prank we've had done with those other. I said, I'm doing with them, because if I was not, if it's

never, I'm much, I'm not, we'd make sure not, we're not, not, we're not, not, we're not probably not, not true, because it's

probably to be able, But it's not really It would be around Toilette That's really very Very good Go ahead And then we're

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To make a Dormackack And so, why They're And so it's Arrived And so it's There's

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It's a Another anecdote I'm in other atelial of sexuality some years later where we're talking about and then I'm just with these guys

and they're just like all right they're getting to get to say to how they're with the details they're like they're they're mimped

how they place their pen they're in which they're in what they're doing they're all they're all to say to

it's all right it's like but that's it there's not there's not there's a taboo to get that that's the

whole people you're doing it And then I was just, I'm like, I'm just a point of it's it's a totally cool,

it was really it's really made in the respect and in the yeah, is that I'm not, I'm doing it's like,

oh, no, I'm also, I'm in a place to the same, and it's like, wow, you've got

you've to have used to you know, I'm sure that would be that's not sure that would be we're making

a climate of confidence, a moment on on a job, and it's after that's after that's

like, yeah, Claudia, I've been my first time I can't you tell I'm trying, but, but yeah,

and then they'd almost 100% to say it's not like I'm saying, go-ofe, and then it's not like I'm saying, it's like,

it's the communication, it was to be there, it's a that's not prepared, the mechanism, the thing,

the condone, that's all right, after that, ah, it's really, I, I've got, to put you

someone, I've got, to be, there, she's a, she has, there's a , who,

he's probably have been a malay, I'm not prepared to get, I think, you know, I think I've got to demand your consentment, but I'm not really practised to do it

and I'm like, you're coming, I'm, finally, I didn't have the gout, but, you know, you want to do that? And then, if we're jazze with them, and that we normalize the fact of jazes, and it, it's a lot of gestion, and communication, and to learn, learn, to see, their limits personal,

to, learn, learn, to, a day, it's attend, a, day, it's not until it, not the person, that, it's normal that it's normal that's like that, to learn, that, on, and, in plus we change

so much to start to use these discussions that, even between they're going to make in a

way to do a way more more informed, solid, in confidence, we can't give them, a way

to get a way, in doing it, it's a idea. The Pes of Ateardt and all, I've got to

that's a hour for it's a It's a hour. It's a not, but it's a lot

to be a good day. It's a really, it's really, even, even at nozance,

I'm, I'm doing, they're too young pizza theater, they do, at each day we're doing like a year, but like,

more vieue, you know, to make these petateate of the same, because in the joan, as you say, in doing it,

but it's a practice like, and they think to say, it's a genius. Really, really, really, the game

of role, and one of one thing I like I'm really with the adults, is, you, when I'm

with the adult, sometimes, you know, to see, social social, we're asked on, you know,

there's many many people that method traditional and it's correct. But I like the

methods alternative also, we're going to get a bit from the work, we're going to

do you know to do you're using the method of course to use often to get the question, and create the

link. So I think that's for that it's for that it's a question, the show

to go to play a play to play at the nature, I'm going to get to get to

russes to pass the russes to pass to the the full of conscience. There are plenty, plenty of things

that we can use depending on the problematics but I think with the young, it's pretty pretty much the game and we've been to do this me and my best of

my own family who's working on we've got to work in a reason of young there's really long time and he's he's not in

my own because when I my wife I'm I've been put to do this night but I'm also for the other to do

some of the project and we've talked to find a genre of donjon dragon but sort of intervention because the

young I like very so. And I love to be a major to play a

because I'm like a lot of it's like a but you're like you're not doing it's like it's like you know what you

know, it's so it's a so we're in trying to work on a space of where the personage

will encounter these different like science fiction but who will come to be to do things

of communication, the defy of people, we have to we can communicate, we have to we have to make the

card of a game, but in the something of very, very ludic, The ludic with the children and with the adults, it's

actually more confrontant than that's sitting, and I mean, tell me, all right, I'm doing, I'm trying to, I'm not, I'm doing, I'm not, I'm doing, I'm doing it, but, you know, it's more confrontant, and it's, you know, and it's, but it's fun, also, because, you can't make that humoristic,

it's not, you have no business, like, to, to, to, to, to, travel these things, that, yeah, it's a really good idea. You know, what I, what I just that I retien the plus of all, you know, by rapport, let's on, let's on, when I'm going to have an adultess,

it's really to make the game, to make the context, the situations, all that, then after that after that's

just in the conversation, because inevitably it's amending it's really more confrontant. The actuality also,

the young like the young of their age, so, to get a, it's been saying, we did that we did so, we're

doing so, we did so, and in the schools, when I do these, to part of something

that a young of their age has been a year of course because it makes the things very real

for them. So it's also to be on the actuality to the family, on the things that the

people are that they're more than you talk, but it's the door. Liseandre is part

to lette his own so I'm so I'm for the for the thing. Yeah,

and also so out of the occasion you know, you talk in the intervening and all,

I'm visualise many the parents there how how we a little bit the same

you know, to be able to to see on the example, you're surprised your son, you're trying to

get a film porno, the way to do like if you're getting like that oh my god my son got to get to

get to the car, yeah, like to get to get to get with humor like,

and then, you know, we're talking we're talking to get to so, so, you know, and to get

just like it's like, it's difficult when you're that for you're not a subject that's not

who is that at this moment that for the parents who are they who are not that they're not that they're not

that's just to have to with a with a friend with a with a resource I'm doing I'm doing

so that people can't be contacted if there exist there's to get to get to

to get to respect these proper limit to get to let's say okay I'm saying okay I'm

I'm come to come to come in here you? It would be a That could put in this formula where I would put in

to try to You could have all the two? Yes, you'd do you'd just the ados also I'm

like a group of education asexuality ado. My vision of the idea is to do that of a

little to find out of age adult to work to work when the parents are very young

so my fack my my feet, let's say on four times times it's

time the time the if you're trying to let's try to let's be demand you

in she's she's she's a two and a minute, I'm pretty, I'll have a becko, I can't have a caline, and she'll be, and I'm saying, no, it's no. Just to, dutia a little, the parents, to add these things simple, that you'll demand not more of energy, but you can

come to addiolidant. After that, a little bit of adolescence, well, the ideal, it's to fornive, those intervenants and in the middle of youngness, but after, the parent, if you're not al-a-a-a-lawed to be able to be that's not you to do it, you know, can't be able to do it, or you know the resources, or if you want to regulate some of the time, or you can't work,

you can come to try to help for that, to get to be able to get to be able to beckes, that's the deblochage, you know, to have an offence, it's a,

it's a lot of to get rid of, the day you're your child, it's, your babyit is, it's like the kind of

the last cry of alarm that to come, well, let's get in that you're, you know, you know,

you know, not that you, don't, that you know, hate this a moment trauma, yeah,

it's a bit of the kind of, like, like, like, like, you know,

like, you know, I'm sorry, yeah, she, she, she, she,

she, she, and her, and she, like, she, like, she,

like, she, she, she, she's not deven, cla, we're,

there's clearly, it's security. In the , she's , so, so, my fear,

it's, that she, she, she, she, , with these attouchments

sexual. So, so I'm in my head, everyone in people, everyone,

everyone can be an abuser. So, you know, like, I repeat all the person who touchy,

like, but, you know, I'm afraid like, like, yeah, I'm talking,

but sometimes we can project our insecurities. 100. It's for that it's super important,

to, like, let's, we could, we could, we could enjazzed primarily

to, about your and I'm I have some people who have really who are coming to me and how I've been to come to like I'm,

because you're really not the sole without their without their without their without, but in out of but it's a

bit that I'm saying to say I'm saying I'm very, because there's I'm out of I'm out of I'm actually, I'm sure,

there's a lot of I'm not too but I'm the tools so, so more you see, more you see,

more you're seeing that you're seeing that you're in trying to give to the end of the end of the tools

that for potentiallyally the most possible to find face to these things and to reten

that if it happens, it's not the end of the people, let's it's a bit of but it's not the end of the

way that exists. I'm the last for the young. It's not the end. It's not

the end up there's a whole world. It's a page very treas in the story, but

it exists there's a after that there's very very well, my objective to you to do you

to do you want to to be to talk to be talking about the secrets that are normal

that are not normal, the the to decode and to have a good communication with you and to report it to report it so. So, the infant is not so on mode,

I'm mummified, but he's more in mode, I understand that's a key in a secret normal. So, ah, it's not in a category. I'm going to talk to my mother. You're not in the power, but more in the... Okay, it's just that. But, yeah, yeah, I'm

really, we'd like that, we're really so, we're doing so on Patreon. I'm not sure that you're probably more, so... Perfect. And I'm just... And I'll be able to do my husband, and you'll probably

me say, it's not or not. All right, we go.