Sexe Oral - Dauphinelle: La réalité de la violence conjugale au Québec

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Cette semaine sur le podcast, Lysandre et Joanie reçoivent Roxane et Ind de La Dauphinelle, une maison d’hébergement pour femmes et enfants victimes de violence conjugale. On parle des signes qui peuvent révéler une relation violente, du contrôle psychologique qui s’installe souvent avant la violence physique, et de la réalité des femmes qui doivent quitter leur maison pour se protéger. Elles expliquent aussi pourquoi la période après une séparation est souvent la plus dangereuse, comment fonctionnent les maisons d’hébergement, et ce que chacun peut faire pour soutenir une personne qui vit de la violence. Un épisode nécessaire pour mieux comprendre ce que vivent des milliers de femmes et pourquoi il est essentiel d’en parler. Le podcast est présenté par Éros et Compagnie. Utilise le code promo SEXEORAL pour 15 % de rabais sur erosetcompagnie.com. 🔔 Abonne-toi pour ne pas manquer les prochains épisodes! Pour écouter sur Spotify : open.spotify.com/show/59Z6zW2JDjKXDjnLTOC78c Pour suivre Lysandre Nadeau: https://www.instagram.com/lysandrenadeau/  Pour suivre Joanie Grenier: https://www.instagram.com/joaniegrenier69/ La Dauphinelle: https://ladauphinelle.org 514 [e-mail]   Pour écouter sur Apple Podcasts : podcasts.apple.com/fr/podcast/sexe-oral/id1547085665 Pour suivre le podcast :https://www.instagram.com/sxoral.podcast/   Pour devenir partenaire du balado : [e-mail]  Pour travailler avec l'équipe du balado: [e-mail]

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we're doing with In and Roxie. You represent the doffinelle. Yes, exactly. The doffinel, which is a house of embergement for the women who have suffered

of the violence conjugale. Today, we're going to be in a subject, we're going to be in the effort, we can't sort. In fact, it's a depart catastrophic, generally,

there's a 10-a-of-a-vieve in a week in in context of conjugation. We're at 5 in 25 days. When there's a place of living, it's not to say that all

all the men are not. No. No. It's always a... But it's always a man. We're all in the same battle. We're together. We're

together. We're together, in all the same, in all the case, against this problematine. But, we're the reality that we see the reality that we see the women. You have to doubt

of their parole because it's their vicarue. On the other reason. Okay, we're going to go. Today, our podcast,

we're with Inde and Roxanne. You represent I would say like for the doffinette. The adofinel, which is a house of abergement for the women

who have suffered of the violence conjugal at Montreal. Yeah. Fame and infant. Fame and infant because he can come to come in with

their cocoa. Is that you want to make a brief description of you who are your amitia because it has been doing that you've been

and you're trying and that you have, it's all that, we're all all right. With pleasure. Yes, but in fact,

I'm in fact, I'm intervening, psychosocial, at the do all a lot. I'm a diploma in criminology,

but I'm not criminologist, so it's important to be a noming. So, I'm working as intervenants social at

the dofinal. I've made my stage there in 2012 and I started to work at the dofinal. I'm not

never reparty at this day. So it has been a good bit bit that I'm

that I'm there's a year, yeah, I'm over 2014. I've done my stage also

of education, I've been school, so I'm I've worked social for more 10 years. I've done

the stache of the study at the tuffinel. It's what we do in our because we

have in the artel we're in a new thing, it's difficult to get it after. But positively

for the mandate, the mission and then we're a great great team. And so I'm

I'm a intervenante psychosocial today, it's my title with Roxanne to voles

on the voles of service in the house of the whole of the whole day,

we're all the the people of the population, of the children, of the enterprises, you, my dam, thank you for the invitation, for talking about to talk about.

I'd just mention that you're in five of eight months. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Of a three. And it's a third. A third.

A third. A good at the house in plus. Oh, yeah. Filtation, to be there. It's really pleasure.

And then I think that all the doffinel is a current. We want to come to you're going to We're esteem

a lot of work. So how we have terminated of the second? Conjured maternity.

Cojubed maternity, yeah, yeah, that's what I did, our director just now,

no, you're not, you're not, you're on work on work, wow, yeah,

we're talking for that. For that you love, that you'd have all, that I, I've got,

I'm, that you're all right, after the year after two years, completely passionate

because you're made. It's a cause that's not easy. That's sure it's a

subject that's a question that you're quite when you're when you're in a house of time you're

a lot of tough. Yes, but there is a there's a too much and I think that that's what

that's a time of year, it's to say that there's to say that today, we're going to talk about a

but there's there's an story, we we're in it's not in fact at all the years. There's

there's a after 10 years, that we've seen seen as a man, the house of embergement, we're having been married. We have a lot of a mother of emerald. It's a work

human, incredible. It's, we'll end up if it would say it's very well, and then especially we're mom, all the two. So I think there

had a transition difficult also to adaptate when we're given mom, because we've we know, the whole

the whole thing is more horrible, but a lotores that a woman and his own and some also like the Zeroxane, is to continue to

go to look at after, to see the resilience of the children, because the children, honestly, they arrive to get to get to get on

a lot of the way, it's not really, it's always the mom, the mom who, the mom who arrive in a moment the

most vulnerable in their life, because they're in the urgency, we're not in, you're in the time to be in the time,

you're not, they're not, they're people who are they're probably to be able in the day,

if they're with their partner at the same, so they're a moment where it's the more dramatic and difficult.

And when we see the after, then it's not we, because it's not we, not to do you. We've been just there for their offer the space

in fact that they have had been able to obtain. And I think that's our reconnaissance personal after, it's for that

it's for that has been more 10 and that we have a great long time. The conditions of the time,

it's not for doing the publicity at our house of but really in the organism

community I think you know, it's sometimes difficult, we're not difficult, we can't

So we have the chance to have some that they're necessary at at this level that for to us to come back

for us there's a reason of this podcast today is that there's been you've said you've said

about 25 years in 25 years in Quebec only since since since we're in 2016

since because not two months not two months and and that's it's plus

that's been how many how many of you know? In fact it's a depart

catastrophic generally, by year, a year, there's a year, there's a year,

there's a year, nine women, have been in five, in 25 years. So, from the vague

post-COVID in 2021, where the female-sid have really exploded. I think that this year,

there's been 26. Ode that, it's really one of the depart the most the most tragic.

So, the year last, it's nine in two. On two. On two, on context

on context unctue on there's more, there's but nine in context conjugual.

So, So on the moment of the relation or in post-separation, what we call the after. Because again, again, a lot of course, because when we're more in the relationship with the person, we're not, we're not, we're not, but, no, unfortunately, we continue to let's,

and we're having, and we're in, you know, we're talking about, you know, we're talking about statistics and of the don't know-chiffed, but it's these women who are dead, who have been assassinated or who have been suicidly after the violence conjugal. So, no, no, it's a flea.

One, they never would not mourn, in fact. even a one one's a lot, but there we know that the

constat of five it's dramatic and we're really about and we're asking. Is that

it's explain? Why this year particularly it's part like that there's

there's just like, for what's for what reason these feminists that

arrive why why today so this year so that there's there's a efforts that are made in the

last years for the time to try to combat these feminicides I'm honestly I don't know I'm not there question that why

we know We never the response because I think if we had, there'd be there or in the questioner would

more of what we can't do what we're can't for that can't exist not, it's certain that we're in a

climate actual that that's that's not that's all all the world I'm I'm in

Canada, it's not ideal not really but in all the in the case we're know, by experience, we see

what's what he's doing the legal, we see what's what's what's what's in the prevention, we're really proactive in the prevention, we're trying to

go to do the world, but reveying us we, in fact, we're in trying to lose our women, really, literally,

and it's not to make the other people, that there's people, that's there's a victim of violence conjugale, he's,

but there, but there, the family, there, there, there's not the justificative we, in the fact,

there's, there's not, there's, there can't, there can't, There's a mountain of masculinity, there's a mountain of some

current current actually, because it's that that's difficult to say, but it's difficult to get to get to the mace,

because it's not normal that our mothers, that our daughters, that our men, of their conjoin or ex-conjoin.

But it's the exposition, the radio social, the algorithm, it's just it's just that a person,

an man who, who, he, that, that, actually, against the

women or whatever, after that, it continues, It continues, it continues, it continues, it's a lot of it. So, I'm not, I think, I'm really more of this on everywhere, that. Before, we'd say that's, it's the radio social, because, we'd say, we'd have been more conscientious of that,

and we'd say, to be, on these videos, of people who are, who are, who, who, who, who, who, who, insults, the women, oh, and far. So, I think, it's not, me, no, no, no, there, no, There's a current. There's a current, really and then what's what we say

also is that the violence conjugal, in fact, it exists before the time, really, from the more from the more, we're not even it's been,

it's still, there's this chance that maybe, the radio, also, the radio, the television, all that, but it's true

that can have also a other reverber there there's, it's a lot that's a lot that's really for a certain

cause, and then we're we do, we're also, we're gere our media, our platforms, in the radio,

We've made a lot of sensibilization, the same manner that we do in our conference, we do on the media. And we have these comments at each day that are horrible, horrible, horrible, and there, in line with the five feminicides, we don't have not justified for any concreason.

And what we want to pass as a message, in all the doffinel, is to say, well, men, we're all in the same battle, we're ensemble, we'd have lute, in all the case,

against this problematic. And we see that there a caseure at a certain moment with a lot of people who reproach

to do it and they're invalid what they're that's what they're justified for all different

reasons. So that's dangerous and we have the impression that's that's what the

first thing we can see someone who can see a woman who could live the violence

conjugal because I have an impression that at time we're that there's

there's there's there not just a statistic that the majority of the womencid

they have never have never been the day of the day of the day of

the third of the case. In the third of the times, the women have never ever seen

of their murder. At the the year of the end of the bureau of coroner has statuous

it's in 50% of the murder of children, that have not an abuse

physical on the before the year of their murder. So, you've

not, because I never viking that I'm not, it's because it's a question often

that we have and it's a, have to minimize this vehicle that of control, of violence psychological in saying, it's going to

not me ever because he never ever made, I'm never fracped, no, we know. It's a myth. It's an idea preconceue

that we have in an human, population, to say, well, there's not a cause, it's not grave finally, but

because that during the years and years, the decades, we've represented the violence conjugal,

like the woman batue, the woman that's been the blue, the equimos of all, And in fact, there's certainly

a certain way a new comprehension we can justify the fact that it's difficult to catch the coup, the blasures, the blue, so at a moment

a moment of the author of violence conjugal, which is a man or a man, but will be maybe be maybe I'll be

maybe evite this way that physical that will be able to be able to my company by example

or my companion so I'm using the strategy psychological and then like the

the statistics and the data, it's It's so much. It's so much to make much, even more. The power of the women that we've

accompanied in these years, you know, the coup, I've used, I've seen, I've left, I'm, well, but it's not, you know, I'm going to see, I'm doing

a cream, or what that's the sort of, it's going to make, for my psychology, on my health mental, on this control,

because it's due control everyday in all the aspects of my life, well, that, I'm having to get to

some time, and it's going to be with the women, they're it's positive, It's positive,

but it's a positive, but it's a lot of time and there's a time, and there's a business specialize for that's

it's not, and you know, how we're how is it, how is we know, how is it, it's not,

but all the people, it's these reproche, it's a great, that, that's that's never enough enough valid, it's

never valid, it, it's never correct, and quite all to, all my energy will come to go to the other,

the business, the business, it's standard to him, his way, his way, the things. So I'm to make

to make me efface, to diminish who I'm in to make this energy on the other for tentate that to try to do you do something,

to try to to avoid the conflicts, for to try to the crisis. And so, we can observe a changement

a little of the person, a new of the person, a truceus, also, it gruge a energy,

so to make in a sort that all so far to be perfect on the everyday, to be able

to be very difficult. And, it's very difficult, and the violence conjugal, it's

always with a relationship amoeoe there's a there's a there's not there's not

a woman who will embarked in a relation in thinking that's a finality of the relation. There's always

the love there's always the beau at the little bit and then will be being to

more than more present and then there will there be a I would say that tension that's

to start to start that I'm sure that I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure that

all sure that all right in place of strategies, like a sign to repair, I'm repair, I'm going to change how I'm

abey, I'm going to change how I'm going to change how I'm isolated also, a lot of the isolation, we minimise,

we're minimalance also, we minimis, but there, we're talking about the cycle of the violence conjugal, but

we don't not today, I think it's something that's something that's there's a where you have to make the accent,

there's really the terminology now that he he's identified, and it's really like the Deroxine, it's these strategies,

because we're in the violence conjugal, it's not these disputes, the chicanes of couples that we're in all our

couples, I think that's that's not not say, I'm never disputed or what's the part of my partner

or my partner. It's normal, the disputes, we have a collair in us, we have some of us emotions, we're

there's different. It's that even in a dispute or in a chican, I have to give what I think, I'm

to you want to do you want to do do you want to decide to my life on all what I

partien, I can't do it I can't do I'm even not the right to make sure, I'm even not the question, it's not

the first time the first time, sometimes it's even not the first year there's a time that you're doing, well, it's a two, three

years of a time that it's for that it's more difficult to be repair to be able to and we're the approach,

what we're the entourage proche, that it's family, familial, amical, colleagues of

family, we, we're we've done, we're strategicallyically will manipulate her mind. So we're manipulated, us also, there in plus of the partner

conjugal. And that's really the propos of the person that we accompany, is to be saying, but I had really the sensation to be full, because when he saw my family, when he saw my family, when he saw my friends, it was the perfect, it was the papa perfect, it was the person ideal. So

the world, even, we, at the coat, we, we're saying, it's difficult to think, what she's in trying to me, or what she is trying to us, because we're not not see, but the sign, they're very present, and when it's in the sphere of private, in fact.

How we can, you know, know, you know, we say, we're all our time,

but you know, but how we're doing, concretely, the, the people who are you, there's,

there's some there's some that we know, there's a little things, there's

a little most the most people, the kind of, just, there's,

there's, there's, there's some people, there's some, there's, who are going to be in front

the family, and the person who is victim will really feel like to be of these blames, people are really,

we're really, just to come in piqued the person, he's really create a sentiment also that's not agriable. Before to go to

my proches, it can be chicaned, all along in the car, we're going to get to and I'm in,

so I'm in, so I'm really doing so much do you do something before, the reunions family after,

it can, it's, it's an issue, so, this amy, that we were super-proche, who was always

present, and then then, she'll start with, she has been put... To justify its absence. So, that's also an other sign

that we can observe, really a decalage at a level, there's an alteration of these liens with the people that they were

so much, we're saying, it's also, some moments where we're going to bring some people, there's a

time, especially in a different social, that can be very fusional, I think it's something that normal, but generally,

we're coming overpresent to our proches. We're really, of an elwynment

that we can remarked des blanks sarcastic and the person for you also, the person,

she will change of the behavior, we know, we know, we know, we know not our friend,

we know our sister, our cousin who knows, we know, very spontaneous, very entusious, very joyous,

social, you know, that has not difficulty to have been to be plenty of subjects in public,

in family, and then when he is there, but we're no way the same person,

you know, we're not We're trying to but, you know, like we, you know, like, we'll see, we're going to look, you know,

I'm going to do something, you know, there's a black that's going to do, I'm going to do you have to be able to be there's, is it this surprotection,

but this also hypervigilance. The person who vile of the violence congulence constantly from the morning to the night or for all what she

is, in fact, for all what she represents, is is that I'm being well is I'm able to do the good manner, is

is that I've made the best of the good food, is the good to create a stress, it's enormously

stress, and the stress and the stress to see a person, it's visible. It's really visible.

What it is there are in these there's, there's a there's a lot of things to do you,

but it's not very, it's a little, to open a little to open, it's to

ask, maybe a question, just a question open, you know, you know,

you've not been, because I know, because I'm to know, you know, you're maybe

some, you know, you're seen, you see, to go out of the toilet, you're at the telephone, you'd pleaded? Is, is it an want to be in front? Because I feel

there's something that's going to be something like, and then normally it's going with a little more of information, or not, or not, because the person also will be, will be a feeling culpable,

will be hanteous, to an party, to have to be able to this person there, but there's fortunately there, and then you have fortunately, in atollier,

that it's in the company or in the schools, and that's finally the world reagy and says, yeah, it's It's true, it's

that I've seen, I'm doing it's like, I'm trying to try to get into some time, and I'm trying to she's made in retry,

that's brought, you know, how you go, in relation, your chum, your partner, your, you know, your blonde, how she's,

I'm not want to talk, you know, yeah, it's can't, you, have the right, but, is that you can't be a little bit

why, then, then we're gonna , then, we've got to , you know, we've got the time, the dispute in

this moment, is for something for something particularly, then, But, you know, there's no solution miracle,

that's it can work as it can not be able to work not work and then

if you're the mother in the moment, you know, you know, you know, you know, that's

a situation like, you know, that's not interdire, nor, give a comment so at this moment,

that, what's what the main intervention that we can have to listen, there's other

thing we can do the first the first, the first, the first, if we're that, if it's,

what's what's going to keep a person and it's very that it's a it's a

very much it's a because if the author to do you know, something, he can't

get sabotage the relationship and after that your mother is really to check all the time he will

be able to try to that person so, and I'm think that to always to always

to always to get a person who is victim in the situation what's what's what's

what's presently what's what word you can put on your situation. So, to let's to let me to make it

to make a own time to get to get to be in the question of, it's what, your limit, you know, it's a coming to do you

do you use these words, it used these words, so, to get to what kind of impact? You know,

when he's had said, when you tell you, tell you, so, so, to let's make,

to be often, we're often, we're probably, we're to come, to come, no, it's to person

to talk, no, it's, we're asking to question, on his relationship, on the impact of these comportments on her on her. We can't

be able to noming the things at a certain moment. I'd say because we can also a line of the call on a telephone on which all the

people can't us call, entourage, partner, who can't who. Really, and then it's, it's really, and then sometimes we're

sometimes we're in the question, you know, in time, is, is, really, I view of the violence conjugal, or it's just a moving passage

that I have in my relationship, is, is what we have many of mamans, as you We talk of moms. We have enormously to us call to me

to say, I'm, I know my wife, I don't know my my wife, I know even more, I'm even though we're with her father, we're like a trio, and there, to

by the biolation. We're not, we're convinced that's the fault to the relation, but we know that you don't know about because she

is normal to be a normal to be for someone who is in a relation like this, but you know, it's a partner

that she has chosen, she has been because he had the quality, in the fact, she she had been

convinced that it could be the good person. So, to see, he's not correct with you, he's a good, he's mean, he's mean, he's mean, he's mean, he's mean, he's mean, he's and then to give us all the insults possible, well, it's going to be also judge our proper choice, so we're going to be in retray. So, we're, what we invite also to say, is, well, by security, to verbalise,

to noming the shows. I'm, you know, I'm a mother, I'm just a matter, I'm taught an certain manner, I know that I've had certain value that I'm today, how it's possible? I have the sensation that at every time you come to take the example of situations, I'm concerned a little more,

I read a little on the internet, I called it has called the resource and it's the violence conjugal, my then,

so you will not be not to know it's not to make the word violence conjugal, but it's not a relation

sane that you're in trying to live. And like, we said, we're asking, we're asking, who,

who had you, before to be in relation with how you, how you the things of the life,

in fact, the how you've the When often when we talk of control, on all the aspects of the everyday, someone who has

want to work versus someone who has not to work, the parentality, the education of the children, the values, in fact,

human, that will be made under an reprise, the part of the author. So the person that is victim,

she will start to change all these values there, although she she doesn't know they do not, she does

not want to the company or to his partner in the case, that's some that's the things that you can't

at the reason with us and that we're not the same avi, is that that, that's questioner not, just? On the questioner not, just, on your relation? It's really the presence, the element key, the listen, and to be at least in alert, in all the case, to maintain the relational,

because that also, we have a lot of people who call people who say, but it's fatigant to accompany someone who viz that. Because, you know, we have to be be able to talk, we, we have been even these examples, they return to always with him. we know at a moment

don't know we have no way we'll let's the affair and it's it's quite it's quite it's quite it's quite

it's a matter but it's the moment where you think you think it's that's not that's

going to happen and the same it will be a little bit that you've been that's open and without judgment

it's not you it's certain we're going we're in the experience it's like that to find out of using just the

term victim there's a there's people who are me identify not to do

at the word or violence conjugal. So, sometimes to use other

words in talking about by the question, but it can be a way to get

to make a question, but without being too confrontant if the person,

they, it's not the way, the law, the coercition,

coercition. Coercition. Coercision. Yeah, Coercitif. Yeah, control coercitif.

Coercit. It's not necessarily reconnue in the sense that's there's not there's a

there's a there's there's a there's a thing you're not criminalized in terms of the law,

to criminal we can't be able to put their plaintiff in saying I'm there's there's not

physical, there there's not violence physical, it's just that's just that the menace

of denigreement in the case, in all the violence psychological that comes in the

violence we're in the government that that's there's not other people,

if I do not of bates, that's they've been criminalized. Now we're no, we need

to have the famous photo, uh, of the blue of the, the, the,

the, uh, the, the, uh, when we're at the hospital or

but the control coercitif, we're going to do it there's there's a comprehension, so now we're

not about, we're not about, and there's not, pardon, I'm not, pardon,

pardon, pardon, we know, we have a control coercitif, yeah, it's a gross,

like more, But in fact, it's not a new form of violence. It's just the ensemble of all the manifestations of violence for long time. We're just kind of a kind of a kind of of a sort of hierarchy between the violence.

Ah, well, physically, it's more grave, psychological, it's in-ba, sexual, it's a little bit, no, it's an ensemble of violence that we're going to make in this famous control coercitive and it's by the biolier, in fact, we're going to

play with the rights of the person, the access to the information of the person, we'll be to control it really on all, and this famous control psychological, he has some consequences,

we know, on the view of the view of the life of the future in the evolution recent is by the view also of the civil

when we want to separate in context of violence conjugal. We are we're in the court, we're not because

we're doing a little but now, the judges are obliged to bring in consideration this famous control

coercitive in the history of the case, okay, there we have two persons who are in a context of violence

conjugal, my view, is to evaluate, in all the the best, I'm not the best, I'm not

the interest of the end of documentate. If there's presence of control coercitive in the situation familial,

we have on the if there's there's there's an and in the calculation and in the

problem. That's it's a changement of law that has been a C13 something,

that's the C-16, no, that's C-S, So it's really a criminal. So, so it's a criminal. So, so it's a separation. We have a complex. We have to know. But, you know, in the fact,

the changement of law and the reality, there are two months. So, we, the vehicle of these mamas, is we don't even though, not necessarily count present. There's a few judgments. There are a few judgments. We have had a jurisprudence.

We're on the level of civil. After that, at the level of the criminal, the C-16, but it's all recent. It just to be deposed before the Feet. I think it was the 9 December. the two-jours of violence

and the women's and the commemorations of polytechnic, the 6. So, some years after, the government federal has announced the depot of

the project of law C-16, which is, in fact, the criminalization of the control coercitive. But, but there's

a great battle on the legislative adopted, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're doing

that's a governmental, but it's because it's a lot of no, the dofinel, of all the

organizations, of all the business, of all the sense, there are there's people who are criminalized

why a victim does it want to have to be the worst for we're not a lot

to do you know, I'm going to get to get to the end of the end of the

life, I'm not a cause, so, well, so, the services of police

will be well, but they don't know because there not there's not there's

there's so they're saying, we're sorry, madam, but for the time, but for the

time, you to decry on the paper, continue a little to to register, to guard

some control that, but we're not going to be perjorative and negative, we're going to because it's

a lot of sense and it's what we, when we when we're the question, what are the solutions, we have

no solution miracle, but the application of this law is continued to get to the

violence conjugal, for us, in all the case, it's the solution, because we

don't know to be under to five women that's, But if there we

say that the stat is one of three who has never lived in life of physical before to get to be

not prevening the female to not not they're not to be able to exactly and it's what the

consequence of the control coercive so long you? That the women sateg it's the

privation of the liberty so it's that's the control coercive and the

violence conjugger the consequence number one is that an individual that is

an individual who will be And, tranquillement, because it's so-noisement, little at little,

I'm going to get my liberty. So it's a important. But someone who, because we, we're able to

the question with the women, also on the media social, we have a lot of people who

have been people who can't have been because it's the an affair and she

she's in danger, but after she in the media, someone has been

had been had been had been there judged, we've faced a a person who has made these briefed conditions, who has

a sentence of a judge who has said, you don't know not approach this person there, you don't know to enter in context direct or indirect.

This person has come even bris the conditions at several repris. It means that the person not responsible

to do what he has made, he is still in liberty. This person that, she's going to be going to be

once to 12 times, to bring the conditions. And at the 13th time, the famous paper that

he's engaged to signed, we'll they'll make do then we'll go, we'll assassinate her ex-partner, it's the case of the last female decinescine, there's been

there's a case, there are these complaints, there were there, some partner, in all the case, who had assassinated, but they've been the author of violence conjugale overpresent, right of two other women in the past, and had already had of the prison during two to three years, I think,

and he had been resorted in a new relation, she had deposed plaintiff, there had had used

these famous conditions that he's not respected, and we're having a new femininiscite so,

so someone who has who's said, malgrary the fact that I'm saying,

that's if we're not in possibility to make an certain security, I prefer not partier,

I prefer rest, I'm maybe a bit safe, where I'm should be really causee these impacts

very gross in in the in the C-16 there's also the fact we're possibly consider the feminicide

like the murder like that's also is kind of something something new important because presently there

are many there are judged as the second degree. Is it you could do you

do that difference for us in fact first degree is that there's there's the premeditation

with the propos delibered so it has been there there a certain

there a certain plan that has been midgeted And the second degree, is that there's not a premeditation. And then

there's a there's a publicism of a few people, it's what we know, it's a thing that's

what we've seen in the last thing a chicanne a chicanne that's okay, but it's

to say, but a femininiscite is not a chikeneer okay? Our directress director said recently,

a chikine it's not a shikine, it's not an end uputism of a long relation of control,

of violence that will culminate with the femininisc, So to recognize as first degree, is that we can

recognize this that, that's a whole chomininginging by the form will pass a bit like the murder of the police

or the murder who are in the court of aggression sexual, well, it's the same thing that we're doing with the feminicide

for envoying a message clear to the society. Well, I'd like that we're making that

make some exercise. We have some these titles that article that are

sent to the imprimed, I hope treatment mediatics. Perfect. We have here these examples of of a good treatment mediatic in violence conjugal. We have, like a title here, a chicanne

a gendarre at Rojumon, a woman between the life and the death. So, that's the example that I'd give. A chikine, it's not with a feminicide. Violence conjugal, he will have brought a bracelet

anti-raprochement. In fact, in this article if I remember well, it's that in the first text, we're talking just that this man, the fests are

so grave that's a bar, we're an brassel anti-raprochement. That's a dispositive of security. The farm

will have a cellular and there's a certain perimite that monsieur can't enter, so often the domicile, the place, the

place, the person, this perimate, the woman receives a person on the phone cellular,

so it's not the service, and it's the service of police, exactly. So, we're talking

of an individual dangerous, those who are have imposed a bracelet anti-reproachment. It's the criminal, the most dangerous. And in this article, this article

that, the second paragraph, after having talked to the dangerosity of the individual, we expose the vicar of Mr. in saying, he has v. a divorce in the last year. And he has also had a period.

He had a life difficult. He could not pay the things at the moment. We're really we, in all the we, in all the case, it's like we know,

decredibilized a little bit his responsibility really, it's really really responsible and justifiated the fact that he is an entente

to the life of someone, and that has been used because he has a bracelet today, and that he

obliges to respect to certain conditions. There we have explained to the population, we're in we're all,

we're all, we're all, we're all that's a way of communication very important that will

come even give to give a certain regard to certain situations, a comprehension. The world

that, I, even if I'm in the domain or not, I read that, I'll have to have to have an empathy for this person there.

It's normal, because it's like that that's like it has been decry. Yeah, but he has had been difficult. The divorce has made that

had had some impact and the consequences on. So, maybe that's for that he has been violent invers his ex-companne.

And that's dangerous. It's too dangerous and it's so it's still in so it's a lot

interesting that we're important, and then it's a tit, but there's the famous drama passionel.

we've had been very, very, very long time. Drama, passionnel. There's a something

that's not the two were not in he made too. He had had to let's she had he had

mal-gared that. There's many of the family to see, but it's right. But it's

it's going to it's not that all people are not the thing that's important that you're

not to doffinel, it's not to the ones are of violence conjugal? Not, to do all. It's a minority of this population

who's considered a woman who will be author of violence conjugal. It's not all the woman, but it's always

a man. But it's always a man. I've seen this citation. Well, yeah, and it's for that we

want to respond to a lot of comments that when we get a little minimise the acts,

and when we get also say, but the women also they're doing do much, and yes,

the women are violent in their relations. Yes, it's true, it's it's true.

When we're talking of suicide also. Yes, there's enormously, there's men who are going to make fun at their day. But there's these problemsatic

different and especially when we do our research, because we'd also be able to respond to these comments there with these

facts, there's not, there's not, a woman who is a woman, even of violence conjugal,

she doesn't to assassinate her or her ex-partner. It's a fact, it's like that. So,

we're not there to say that all the whole thing, we're there is a problematic that's a

perdure from always, who has to retire the life of women,

and that's in the fact you need to make to make a barrier to us and then we're just

to be able to I'm just let's say, I'm not I'm a person public on Instagram

that has made a video recently a man, a influencer who has talked

in a very partager us on our social who has said, but arretton we in

time com to be braque when we talk of feminicide or when we talk of men who are violent against the problem.

It's a cause of that's the problem. Why we know we have nothing we're not, we know we're doing it that means that we can mean minimise what

it's past it means that we're not not we're not we have a responsibility in time of them to say if we're not

we're not we're not sure to look around we, intervening, we're just we're doing the women who

being. So, being borsalal right? Well, if you're If you're not They're talking They're not They're not

Like, you know Not to be Yeah, Exactly. Is that Let's That's not I'm not

That's the subject of podcast But a man That's It's a There's

There's There's There's There's There's not There's There's Yeah,

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It's It's Func But, But it's It's It's important to name, to it

to be, we're also not the promotion, but when we pose the question, we say, here's what he exists for the

people, we're quite to do you know, we know, again again, for our line of urgence, or by a

certain consta, there are more more of them who are also denounced of the violence conjugal, but when we're

a man, it's not easy to to say, on the world, I'm a woman, because here's the

image of the home, who is represented in the society, how I can make make to find

to people, my partner, my partner, me feel of the violence conjugal. But we're on where we

go to some of the school or some the center of formation, we're in with the young

girls, the young men who are I've been to do the violence conjugal but it's

difficult to it for me so we don't know that on contrary. Example.

If I'm a woman victim of violence conjugale that I think, but the day,

I think that I'm my God it starts to I can't be able to me

to make my family. I'm I'm sense more like,

is there there's a example, if I'm in there's an example I'm in there's a thing,

there's a thing that I'm saying, let's say, that I'm not that's an irreversible? Is it

irreversible? Let's on, a relation that comes to to be around there, there's a way that

I can be able to my chum, there's do you do recalue, there's an excellent

question, if I can be able to, I mean, I think, I think, I think, I think,

I think, I think, I think, of the human, fundamentally by the count, it would be a question of this questionment that,

will be the person that person who is author of violence. What I'm, what I'm doing the country, is that we're going with the savers,

we're, but I will help, I'm going to help, and all that, and all that, so, it's what, the resources for the women,

it's me who do the research for the therapist or the center of aid, it's me who book their first rendezvous,

it's me that time, at tell hour, at tell day, he's present, it's, it's not

what he you want, it's the fault of who you think. It's your fault. You've not to find the good therapist for me, and it's very often against the victims. I believe profoundly in the human who can change. By contrast, it's just a little of mowbris,

and you have a certain introspection. And if the conjoint, by example, arrive to noming, what, what's what he's what you're not in there? The risk, it's, often it's to turn to her. It's you capote. It's you who dramatize for

nothing. It's you're made susceptible. So, there's not this liberty to be exoner. After that, if we're faced to someone, let's say that's in a person

to get a saying, to get to get to be in a person, and to get to get to get a person that,

to actually to make the move, to find the time, to find a rendezvous by him and to investire in the long durie

in the processus. After that, we, we're we'd say, this portion that of women, because our

women that choose to see paris, so it's more difficult, we'd not you arrive with

the, but it's It's a good question. A question. A question. A lot of the woman, but that's but that's But we're not

on the course. No, we're not like I'm as much. Like I have hope. No, no, but I came for the show

to be in a second sejo in a fact. But I think that's a very good question and you

have responded to the most be the best way I think that's really what you for to

respond to to answer to rest certain on the notion of the responsibility

of the responsibility of the person. If Mr. Vian reconnate these acts, recognize these

agisement, these more than you know, he recone, you know, you know, to have to do you know,

to do you know, to be able and to be like that with you know, I think we can see a kind of an kind of

to be a way to see that, or at each time you make not a I'm not I'm not,

I'm not, I'm victim of what I'm doing so you so, like you do, I'm trying to it's you

that's you can be the necessary to adaptate our relation and for that at part time and the person

that she that's in accord with that, yes, it's what we're what we're really what we're

really what we're in the return in our experience is that the majority of when they when they when they're

we're doing we think, I think it's I think it will change he's promised it's a time with the

phase of remission before we're the phase of the last of the time of I'm sorry I'm trying

to make I'm promise I'm prompt probably at a month, to two months,

three months, maybe, we're just to see a year, we're just to the same way, but I'm

in my travers, I'm with a control that I want, because that's what I see what I'm in the relation conjugal.

So, we would be the case for all the case, but the public who we're not the case.

But, you know, we're doing, we're part of a table of concertation violence conjugual,

here on the New Orleans of the civil there, there are, the

people, who accompany, in any other the author who are parties, we're talking a little bit with them,

and it's what he they're in these people, these people, these men, and they're in these people, and we're in

a little question, the person, on what he has been in his past, in his own my, I don't critic

not the ways of the way, but the consta is that after, often these people are

being by the court, to go, to go, to get, a judge, a judge, he's just,

to be, for all to be all right, for not that you get to give something to give to engage to you know, to do you

get to do you and when the therapy, she's always, it's not seen by it's always, or sometimes it's yeah, well,

that's not my problem, in fact. That's the concern, other men, it's not me the problem. You know,

it's the relationship, it's the woman with who I'm in the person that he's for us, for us,

we can't not have to do you can't be different, you I'd say, I'd say, the fact,

the violence physical, but all the the climate of control, the violence, psychological, the denigreement, the abasement, the re-abessment, but often, that, it's going to be maintained,

or have you ever been? Have you, certainly, a questioner on your platform for sure if I'm if I think of being victim, there's questions, there's questions, but on the site,

OSO, violence conjugale, there's really a quiz interactive, and, you know, is, is that I'm victim of violence conjugale? Is, is,

there's, is, there's, there's any all the world to do all of it, to do it even me even, me,

even, it's always interesting to do it We've got just to date. But, but our our partners, because as you

say, as far, we say, sometimes we're doing, that's the violence conjugale. But it's a, it's an episode

of whatever, but I think it can be good for to do it also, to do it's a couple, and to

see, that sometimes when I know, that's really in security to do you have some

question, that's it's a problem, 100%. But it's because because, like I said,

Liz, is that sometimes it's like that will come to like some with the little stuff, I'm not about my

relation, I'm really not in my relation, it's a very much, before it before it

before it to bring to action on certain, the person that's, what is it's,

they say, they say, they say, they say, they say, I mean, I mean, I'm saying,

there's sometimes, because it makes, it, you, it's, it,

you know, do, so, you, do, the, it's false who they're not

not quite, I'm not I think you're not quite, because you realize what you're because you're saying,

I mean, in the sense that you realize that's a way, and there also the question of the legitimacy,

because these men, that's the people, often, the violence, the family at all,

they're not to get to the emotions. It's not to get a person, he's a lot that's

very much, he's trying to help, he they're trying to , these emotions, and his behavior. It's a

way that is legitimate. I'm a legitimate to exercise this control, this control, this violence, for

obtain what I want to be, because it's a question to be able. And why it's a point, why

we're in so it's a idea preconceue that we have the victim, I'm in the gimmick because we

don't know not necessarily in terms, but the person, she doesn't not, she is in

doing to live every day, she's she defan, she nom, she verbalise, sometimes even,

she's to defend physically, in all, She has some reaction to make a question to

understand. I don't I'm not what you are in trying to me feel like this relation of this

manner that. So we can not say, I'm not when you're a company at each day,

she'll know, they tell, they tell, they're not, they're not, they're there's there's people,

there's people, there's in violence conjugal, when we're on the control, on the

on the duty, it's sure it's not on the we're conscious, we're conscious, because we

like me, like I'm with my family, I'm with my family, I'm not, I'm sure with my same, I'm sure, I'm sure,

it's just when I'm with her. So, yeah, it's like, there's a impression that we're in an image, you know,

that's the that's always to be a certain type of of a time, but in a day that's been that's been

that's a is there, is there a profile, type of of people? It's you, it's us,

it's our mors, it's our sisters, it's our friends, it's our The police are you said Tantot?

Yes. There are intervening. There's avocates. There's one there on the social who is known who has

made a devolment in all the whole case, she has talked her story. She's she can't this person

that. So, we're probably but no, it's not possible, she's a she's what she

she knows she's a person who has that has to be of character also. No, no, no,

no, no. And then, and the people people zeney age, they can't live the violence

congulul. We have femininici where there were the family of 70 and more. It's one

of the articles that's written mortispects, and so generable Boucherville. Yeah, that we've

madeiatized in saying, in trying to make it's perhaps a crime by compassion because when we're in a certain age

we have perhaps a pain for our partner so we're going to make a stayjour for more that they're

going to it's always that's written that in this article but there we're reading that it's been and it's

historic, of violence conjugal, Madame, would be separated, but due to the age and due to the

situation, he's in the same there's, there's, there's, the color of the color of

the power, I'm sure, the status socioeconomic, that we're rich, that we're poor,

that we're that's a person, someone who's a person who's, that's, we don't

be not in a world too rose like here, we, we in some other places in certain

places, in certain that, it's going to accentue, we're talking to

a lot of the subject also some of the fact that's a bit of a bit of that's

not quite quite not quite that it's not there's always there's always there's actually there's there's a

trouble of mental, maybe also of the toxicomany pardon, of the dependence, but all that

does not the author of violence conjugale. No, it will be aggravate, it's

will be accentue these comporto, but he decides he's like it's what there's the profile type. I'd say, by

count, there are certain women who will live more of obstacle to an sort of a woman, a woman who has been to arrive here, who cannot be the resources, there's not a family,

or I just the family of monsieur, by example. It's an more difficult to break the cycle of violence at this moment that, when maybe I'm

to my police, because, I, at the police is corrupt, so I don't know, the police in Montreal, it is common, so I'm

being miffying, to call the services, I can have, some, that's that's, you can all left my children. That's these

women that we accompany dailyly that are in sort of they will be able to bring more to break the

cycle of violence versus someone who is accompanied, who is a good social social so,

so the importance to make know our service. And we we have a great people

diversified that's people who and we're also we're also services to interpret

if we're not the language of the language of the language of our service also.

There's how many women can be in the place? We have 24 place in the bedroom of the

So of an emergency So we're in fact We offer a Sejour of two Months, we're So in fact, we're not from the violence Congregal in two months

but it's for their apparel the security. After we have some unit transitory, in any case, we have five

where we're going to be longer with us if they want to they want to there's risk of femininicide when we have

when we have these elements to our possession that make that's safe for this person if they're in the

over to the abergement, we'll have proposed to rest a little more longer and we're ravied,

but that we've already announced that we've opened our new new house of this year, this year

with one of it's one of it's one of four units, so with 14 unities transitory, because we're

making our expertise, in all the case, our chiffres, someone who comes in in these

people who there's very good, and then there's many things that can't do that's difficult

for these people to , we're have a risk more elevated to return to the

conjoint directly, while when when we propose some new long term, we're able to to put in

the time, to understand to come to the development of the infant also, because we remember,

we have the baby, we have some mace at the house of abergem, we have

some there, and there, to have the more long term, with an offer

of service really more important and adapted, it, it's it can't make,

after they they reprace their in vol they I'd like you'd like. The first question that a woman

says when she's when she's going to get to where? Yeah. I'm going to and if the sole response,

it's, well, yes, the same thing, it's the core of the resource, of the adof-finel, it's our

access, if we're a date of fine, if we're going to diservive all the times,

actually, I think, they refuse a firm on two, there, there's a one,

who can't quit, who is not in measure to be re-logged in a house of

And it's there that we have other services, we've had to be a bit in our own house to put in place some fillets of security by the services external that we can be in part of the

question, but it's important to offer an response that, and certainly the women who are the most in risk to live a femininity and there really there's really

Mr. who bruce these conditions, Mr. who rode, will roodd around his family, to his friends, of his own his own work,

the arcelement, so there really factors of risk that we can't count in the evaluation of these risk that for to choose

our families who are the most in the risk in the risk women are in a risk of Is there

the security your yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a system of security. There's been

a decision there's a years, there a man who has there's a man who has been a man,

we're quite there's a country, there's a community, which is that we're getting

to be confidential, but in the region, there's there's all the people,

where the house for the , so it's arrived a few years, there's a man who's presented to

the resource and who has assassinated his ex-conjoin so. So, there's a there's a

thing that's being a so we've been put to be munnire of camera, and there's a system

also an organization internal, on the address and all. But it's certain that we're sure,

we're doing questions every day in our at our questions, is, is,

you have to the place, never, never, never, of place. And it's some of

people, it's not the people who never person, You quit your life, your whole your

whole time to go to get to do your own with your with your people who are with your

people who are soci of security. So it's person who feel that and that and it

has a time, we have a lot of people, and often we have said, we're saying,

we're sincerely, we're we're saying you know that you know, we've been

something, but for the time, we have just not the have been in the field of attend?

No, we don't have not, but there are certain houses, I think, that's the list of times, but

even the other houses, they are saturated also. So, they're going to be able to work in place

in a house that's not the same service, or in any case, the mandate is not not necessarily

directly violence-conjugate. It can be other other, it other, but we have not in the

cases, in the case where is there's not there's not for this woman that who lives that,

and it's really, the alternatives, the solutions to this woman, there's you have you, you've had to

do you have to do do you know, we're in the service external, the public part of the

service external, honestly, the service external is destined to really to women who would not

come to be in a house to be the violence. If I'm trying to not to come to come to

my house, with my son, I'm so, I can do, so, I can't try to find a

so much, but I'm going to because we're not just a toe at the al-Duf on, we're

an accompaniment a social, we're a service of aid. So you have of the place. By the

service external. Okay, and again. We have a colleague who has this mandate because it's also there's a service

external, even if now it's very on, on open, we've had had some very recently

that's a new service and we're a single colleague that is at the post there, and she's

there's already saturated she even. So, so we're all people who don't want to pass

by the case of who don't the possibility, who don't they don't have the possibility,

and that it's not, It doesn't mean that we're victims, that we're going to go to an resource of abergement. By the point, they're absolutely to be accompanied on the aspect administrative,

judicier, criminal, to go to post of police. There are many of people who, will have a real estate. I can go, maybe two, three, I'm going to be,

maybe I'm going to be my proche who my company in this parkour that, so I'd like that's a intervenate, so

yeah, it's the way of our service external. We've developed these accompanements, really, the Masons of Bairgement, you're not

mandate principal, and we're on all the spheres of their life. We've got to understand, we're trying to work the morning, they're in pajamas, we're playing our coffee with her, we're there during the routine of the children when it's the

course for all over at the school. So there's also a link of proximity that is inegal that we can't not find out of course. And there's a time to accompany these people for the guard,

for the avocates, for the separation, to bring the information on, if we can putte plaint, is what you want to be a obligation to be plenty to

putte plainte to bring to home. So we're off all these information that if there's there's issues with the

children of those we're in there we're in there, it's in fact it's often it's a lot to be a

life of life and that's the births the fetus the phytis sense the hormones of stress

the cortisol will circulate on the baby we're the baby we've accompanied it can be there can't

be able to give us even to be able to get to not get to don't know to

There's fair, these babies who's refuged in the summer. So, you know, there's a panoply of consequence, and we're really there for them for these moms, you know, you know, the service are

quite a bit of and it's an abergement, to make some of the activities. I've already made a family, it was the first time, it's a little bonoom of three years,

and I saw that he'd watch all in the sand, and his mom me said, there was a park in face to show, but I couldn't get to

rest in the house. It was the first the first time that the little bonoom sent the sensation of the sand to see the feet. There's a first

time at all, at the doffinel, and then I think in all the house of abergement, there's really the empress is they,

and then it's true, the world has the world has a real to realize at what we can be put out of

this emprise and just at what? But there there's there's there never nothing that

they're ever they're ever when they're in a business of because they're the opportunity, the space and the time

to do it really, the vacants we're trying to propose these activities, the can of the winter, there's plenty of

things, there's a lot of their life, and not by the worry, because I don't have just not the right, really.

Just the sentiment of liberty, it was, it had really marked this woman, that was out of the house

of abergement, and when she had been to say, Ransan, me, when I made a little bit

a year, my telephone not had to be able to because he me texted, he made so ce,

just this sentiment that in time human, to say, I sort of out, and I have this sentiment that of liberty total, you know, it's something

that's a little bit really. It's not just in your conclusion. It's really more than the to- what you know, let's talk,

let's take a place that's a bedroom, I'm, I said a be a house to the house of house of perjama.

How do you do you You're the next person. It's the next person who's a hazard? There's not a selection. There's a little questionnaire of evaluation.

Honestly, it's what? 15 minutes. We have just a little series of questions for to assurring, in fact, that we're not

a question of any other thing. It's not to do you just for you explain how we're doing at the dofinal, here's what we're to do a project,

have you, you, there, plenty of things that you'd want to be that would correspond with our mandate to

us. Then we just that the two are together. The majority of time, it's very, very very well, and after it's

that we're not, we don't do selection, it's just if the evaluation telephonic, it corresponds, in the case,

it's quite, and that we're really assured to you offer the service adequate. She's envious after the time.

After, we'll have some of the women who are in the time, there's you're not the time, you're in your address, but then after,

at the other appell, we're exchanged with with her, justly, again, to assure

the confidentiality. But it's that, they're on the apparel and so, so, they're really, they're in a

property of their phone, or not? Yes, they're they're all, they're all right,

it's also, it's very what we can't get to the house, they're not a code of

the code of the code of the legal and it is obligatory for that there's a good

entente in the house and that I'm not in the entry. But, but it's

that, it's that, We know, we part this Cote de Villa, we're on part of entire, we're having the family, we do also some of the tachsh menager,

we do plenty of things ensemble, but it's just for the part a little structural, that it's been well that they're with the children, but all that

the telephone, it's just for to sassure that, because we know, and the person is partied to quit,

the telephone son, we have the advice of the police, the monsieur is in alert, there, there he research

Madame and the information, and we're just assuring that all we're desactivated. We're doing directly with the school

if there's a school because there's a issue of security so we can't let us return the children to get in place

after the arrival of the person. Dek an place of lib, she's really, it's never really, we're working with SS. It's really

SS-violence conjugal that has like the disponability of all the abergements throughout the Quebec.

We have paid, I think, three times per every day, all the people, all the house of all the mansions,

so it's really the business, it's really the because it's evils to apply all the

resources individually. And there are who are the first of the time I'm in the phone, we're in a

little more now in the extraireure, but when we are on the place or the colleagues, like you know,

I'm sorry, we have not a place, but you know a paper, a crayon, I'm going to you know,

you know, we're doing this other resources that are many very, very long of Montreal, but it's the

only solution for that's the same that's important to continue to be able to be really to be

just just just the the number that we every morning when we're in the day, it's the way

entire, really. The moment when the women are ready to make they're their two months, they're in their

their sack, is you have, they've had to be able to a new house, or maybe a new job,

how they make in sort that the guy they're not that's true. It's all the development of our

offer of service, it's certain that we're not in the end of two two months to find a apartment to

the apartment psychosocial on the research of the It's for that the two-month it is short

to have the rest of the person. But we're going to do it in a sort of the we're in a really,

we're really croised the I'm going to to say, and I'm going to try to try to find other alternative,

we'll try to find other resources of we're trying to find the house second step,

so she she propose the unit transitory on the long term like what we're

going to this year, in the we're not not at the way, not to do, never,

we're always a solution. We will have very rapidly the demand also in the organism HLM for to find an apartment to loy modic, we're

doing the necessary park public, park private. We have developed these expertise, I've got a great idea, but develop a lot of

so much of strategy for conclude these intents with these private who accept now to power signer with the

lawy subventione, the PSL, in fact, the program of the loyye really moderee so that also it's not

It's very easy. There are some there are the lawyer and the money and they don't understand not the situation of dangerousity. So we're

trying to use to all the strategies. Then when they have finally quitted, and that's what we want to quit really to quit

also, we also, we're also a post embergement. So we have also a other colleague who will continue to

them even when they are installed at them, because we know when they start some when they're

sometimes, it's sometimes it can't take time time after they're there, there's there, there's

there, we're not the limit of service, like the S-L-S-L-SUS where they will have really a time reduced because they can't do not do otherment. We have not a time determined, we don't have no, we're not

we're not doing all the world who comes to partoo and we're all-accompanes everywhere. But it's an offer of service that we're trying to develop it's important in a context, 70% of the feminicides, of homicides conjugo, so produce in the context of post-sparation. It's the moment

the most dangerous for a woman, it's the moment of the separation, but also in the months, in the years to next year. So, like, they're

a new conjoint, there's there's a situation, the divorce that's pronounced,

there's there's been a monosid. This femininic that's produced when,

it's produced when it has received a busi at domic with the requite of divorce.

It's that he put his arm-a- off-of- his consigne, but the

couple was separate from a little bit. So, so it's important

to assure an suit in post-s separation after their part of the

abergement, is that this risk that homicidal will vary with the time. So, we're sure to really

to the accompanies all along of these steps that. I want to just to know your stories that you're

the little little bit of a little story that you have marked the two in your work?

Yeah. Yeah. I've already had a podcast and I've had been

about to say because it is very difficult also, I don't but it's

it's it's in fact, it's Mark positively, in the sense, also, there are some of the with the women, but there are some

difficult by the by the moment of difficult, and then we're talking about, we're talking to people, we can accept or even to even understand

that's an autocity of on other human, and particularly when it's the person with who we live on the day, I know,

I know a man I think it's in my debut, I was still still my first accompaniment that I have been with these

three kids, if I'm not a bit of bitty, it's a more 10 years. She had been sequestered this woman, she's while, there's person who had been in the course, she was

to be able to go to the school, he'd go and he'd get them, the verro had been like a each time, how she's on is sort, she's,

she's that she has passed some hours and these hours during a year to look at the eye, the door, and as she made

to hearl, hurl, hurl, tap in the mur, and say, what's what I'm trying to live, call the police, if you please,

he's going to let's out of the house. And by after when she's arrived, she's in she's over,

she's in the very good, she's in, she's in the thing that's what an idea of a story of the person,

and especially for you propose to you know, it's a good to be in the relationship. And she had just

part of demonstration that he did live on the everyday before these people,

it was, it was it was inconceivable that an person person being in capacity to that,

the example that's like it was like she'll have she wanted she had been in a chatt while they'd have not a chast

she's like she's like she she's like she's considered more bad than than the more than the animals,

more bad than than the he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd eventually be

very, many, many, that's that it's made because in plus it's a man

because it's a man quite quite she, she she had made there's she'd have made she

had been that she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, had

in all these possessions, all these connections, and to live with a man who has made that, it's great,

and you say, how you do you do it, but at the final, we know, that's all there's all right, we're talking,

it's a every day, it's a every day that that's a important also even we, to bring

to care of us, because it we're affecting it's so it's for that it's for so it's for so

it's for it's much when I'm many things in the media and that we minimise, and invalide,

And then I want I mean, I want to that we're in the reality that we're doing it's really what we're in the women. You have to be sure

because it's their vucu, on the everyday, but I'm, but I'm, but I prefer rest on the positive, the positive,

we have so, we're still, we're having not the ambassador, because they're not like that, but they're talking,

they're even, in their middle of their work, they're going to they change to career because they

have always an voice, a point more important. We have a company that's a company that's the time of the

parliament, yeah, in the case, that has made also, of the new new resolutions on the legislative

and all. So that's be a lot, and then we have all of all at each time. I'd say, my story

that's the most marked, well, there are a lot of, you know, it's the people,

that we're doing, we're developing. We're going to get to, the kids, well, in fact,

it's because, you know, when the when the the cloche has sonned, I had not wanted to return to my while I'm in

here. I'm sure you know, I'm going to return here that's my home to be so you know, there's a

for these children that, it's really, even, malgrate all the context that is difficult to get to get

our joe and our shows, like that, yes, it's difficult, but these men, we, we,

we're going, we're we're going, because there, we're giving them give them a space

where they can't exist, without, okay, and that it's really

fundamental for an child and for the woman also. But I'm I'm saying today,

especially on being in mom today, it's this woman that I'm at the moment, I'm at the time, she's been

the door of a house of a bedroom of the house of bergement, and I've seen pass the door with

a boat because in her flight in the violence physical, she has subbed an attack physical,

very violent, she has broken the she've, so she arrives with her great butt, she arrives

with a coquee A new new new new new new a new new new new a few seven, two other children,

so I think, on a little little little bit of five around. And then it's all we're all all we've all

many times and I've seen of these moments that I'm said if this this woman has been to have to

quit this to get this relation that you're you're in relation again, that's something of the separation, to imagine to separate

to all let's but if this woman has reached to find the courage with her

chieie and she's little baby in her coquet with these two little boucho to her

and now now, she's she'll be remarried. She's she's in couple

years. It's has been ten years that she's she's she

today, she already will do you know and that will be the violence conjugal

like it does it touch all people and she her life, her

It's a good It's a lot of You have You have made But it's But it's not It's true It's not easy

And then it's For that It's not It's really that we're It's really Our everyday But it's really But it's

We're in It's all over When we're When we're The person who We're Who Who's

Who We're They're When we're It's When we're It's She's

She's This family She's It's It's There's There's There's

of them, but even his job of work, has been sensible to be a cause,

the employer has made in sort of readapted his work, has made in sort of being proactive,

proactive, empathic also in him saying, how I can't help you can't

you can't you can you can't you, it's that really,

it's just just the moment, it's negative and it's difficult,

and it's generally generally very often that's they're they reprained they reprint

dro, to see what they They've had what they had had the right to have and to do

do it and to do it's, but it's what it's not a bad at the thing.

It's what it's positive, we're like, but in a time, it's even not,

you know, I think it's a bit our effort to say, well, you know,

there's a why, why, why we're what we're what we're doing what we're what we're what's,

it's to me to me say, I'm trying, I'm three co-co, and I aspire one year, you,

to attain an equality between the women and the for me, it will pass by the fact that the women are able to

make a term to their relations without we make a term in their life. So, at this moment

that, we will have gained something on the level of the equality on the when we're not that.

For me, we're not, it's for us that we're not that we're not that's just that we're doing that we're doing.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. can't be able to because you're really

part of the solution also. I see not for fair semblance. We live now with plenty of evolution,

the media, the podcast, it's both, it's bad to be able to see what, and I'm for that we want to use your

platform for to make this message there, it's certain that it's going to get a moment of and then,

and I think, and I'm sure, and I think, and I think, not for not for the woman of the person, you're

to listen to be, Berger, you know, it's these intervenants that's always every day, it's not these men's the same

that you're going to do, you'll just have what you see in the mandate of violence conjugal, and then,

in fact, I have the right, I'm the right to start, I'm the right, and it's the

right the right that's the right that's the right to be to protect us our family, the family,

and thank to have accepted, to be here to be able to continue this message that. This cause

that's, Yeah, and it's often that also that when we do when we're doing, we're doing we're doing we're all part of the filet of security

of the person victims. We have all, yes, it's our role on the level professional, but in our lives respective,

and it's not it's not really, to offer an attention to, to pass a number, I know the number of a resource, and to talk

of these resources, to them make in light, yeah, it's a point, but it's not just a to that can be the service extens,

it can be just to call, and to ventilate, it's rare, to call a number to telephone today and that someone who's people

who says, when we call SS, violence congeal, when we call the line contactel,

that is the line of the d'ofinel, but there's a man who will respond. Okay, perfect.

We'll make all the resources in the description of the video of the podcast. I'm excuse, I'm sorry,

I'm like, like, is, is you, would be to rest with us a little 15

minutes of plus, perhaps, maybe, maybe, to talk of other stories

that you have, to, We can't broil again. All right. No, but some of the best stories,

of redemption, of redemption, is you the good news? Yeah, I'm doing with these best minutes on

Patreon to do you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Very much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. It's incredible.