Sexe Oral - Défendre l'indéfendable : le quotidien de Vicky Powell

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

Cette semaine sur le podcast, Lysandre et Joanie reçoivent Vicky Powell, avocate criminaliste, pour une conversation aussi fascinante que dérangeante sur le système de justice, les crimes s3xuels, la violence conjugale, le consentement et la réalité de défendre des personnes accusées des pires crimes.Avec beaucoup de transparence, Vicky explique ce que signifie réellement être avocate de la défense et pourquoi toute personne, peu importe les accusations qui pèsent contre elle, a droit à une représentation juste. Elle revient sur les dilemmes moraux auxquels elle fait face, la façon dont elle apprend à mettre ses émotions de côté et les mécanismes qui lui permettent de travailler quotidiennement avec des dossiers extrêmement lourds sans perdre son humanité.Ensemble, ils abordent des sujets aussi complexes que les crimes s3xuels, la violence conjugale, le consentement, les mensonges, la manipulation, la psychologie criminelle, le rôle des avocats de la défense et les nombreuses idées reçues entourant le système judiciaire. Vicky partage également les coulisses de certains des dossiers les plus marquants de sa carrière, les réflexions qu'ils ont suscitées et pourquoi comprendre les nuances d'une cause est souvent beaucoup plus complexe qu'il n'y paraît.On parle aussi de :— Pourquoi tout le monde a droit à une défense— Ce que ça implique de représenter des personnes accusées de crimes s3xuels— Les dilemmes moraux liés à son métier— Comment elle se protège émotionnellement au quotidien— Les mécanismes de défense qu'elle développe pour exercer son travail— Les clients qui mentent, manipulent ou cachent une partie de la vérité— La psychologie derrière certains profils criminels— Les limites du consentement et les situations les plus complexes— Un dossier d'agression sexuelle qui a profondément marqué sa carrière— Pourquoi elle a consulté des sexologues pour mieux comprendre certaines dynamiques— Les plus grandes idées reçues sur le système de justice— Ce que le public comprend mal du rôle d'un avocat de la défenseLe podcast est présenté par OxioUtilise le code promo SEXEORAL pour obtenir 1 mois gratuit sur https://bit.ly/oxio-sexeoralLe podcast est présenté par Éros et CompagnieUtilise le code promo SEXEORAL pour obtenir 15 % de rabais sur https://bit.ly/eros-promodemoRéserve ta soirée entre amis au SHAKER de ton choix dès maintenant sur https://bit.ly/SexeOral-Shaker Abonne-toi pour ne pas manquer les prochains épisodes.Pour devenir partenaire du balado :[e-mail] travailler avec l'équipe du balado :[e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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the defense. Of the messach. But what you're just in the life. You're doing it. You're going to be to do you. I'm going to be able to you'll be able to be it. It's totally exciting. I've got this morning a podcast, and I

just the good to creus it in Ques. So, is what we can start by that? Absolutely. Yeah. Just find a topo of, how you've got come to what's going to get to happen

that all right yeah so I'm at the beginning it's really because when I'm going to

in the right of the family I'm going to defend the people, the family monoparental

all the kit it was really my idea when when I had shifted completely

when I had been my first court of criminal you know when you're

you know you're super good and you're like you're like you never in my life I'm trying

to make that so after after I'm I was a bit perfectioned there's a bit of over the course in the

crime. And there was a matter of course when I was doing just to work so I'm saying why not, I'm saying

there's a point, and the profus, I'm doing, you know, to do you know, and I'm impique in my milieu, I'm in

my own organizations. In fact, I'm on the council of administration, I've made to a

business also people who got to be in prison. So, when you're at the university and you're

with people to be with some bit intimidate, but it it had made a

good an open an open open up and it's like to it's like to do you

and then after that I'm doing my stash in function of this. What's you're at

the crime? It's really my prof. It's the proff, you had been very there's

there's there's like there sometimes you know, sometimes you know, sometimes you

did some you know, I'm not to make to respect to those who do do you

do right to do you money, the right fiscal. I'd like that. It's like, I'd like that. It's like the only thing that was always that was the back there

was the drug criminal. F'all, the profs also, it's sure that it's all right. There's there that the proffes but my profus were either, so, at edged juridic,

and in practice privy. I'm talking all over the proff defunce. It's perhaps that that he's tinted also by what I wanted to do, but

it's really the you're more, you're more a fee of action plus? Ah, 100%. I'd probably I never been sitting in

a bureau. I like the caro, I love like that's... Clearly, the defense you're there

to be in 100%. And the thing is that you can you can choose coronin, but we're

profoundly in the mind I'm in the man I'm always I've always been the person who

the truth like I think the defense was a good compromise between

between the two and I in my head I'm like just if you

you're full for the for the person I'm too I'm never I defend the

Mechant, you know, is that there's a bit questionment that or this little, like, hey, no, I'd be able to defend, I don't know, a person, I'm not, a pedophil, or, you know, it's, like, you know, it's just like... It's that I had said, in, in, podcast, you'd be at a moment

where, it's your job, you know, you clock in, you, it's not personal, and, and, at least, when I'd I'd be able to do not sleep, you, I'd, I'd, had these enquiries in liberty, the person had been taken to prison this

time. With the years, you can't you can't put to be in your whole, it's not the

fault, to one, it's not you have made the crime, to do you, it's not you're

not you and brezies the conditions, to three, at the end of the day, you have not to have to

control on the decision on more, you know, to do you, present to the

more, and evaluate what you're to have done to do you and see, there's there's a

possibility or not, and there there's there's a there that's there's, It's the genies of the crime,

and there are other that they don't choose the good vocation. They're a little tata, in other words. Exactly. There are some, there's that's tough. You're like,

well, I'm going to, I can't believe. I can't believe. I can't believe. I'd be a very good criminal. You'd have to do you not have.

But the worst, is that sometimes it's these little detail that you think that's all, and finally you you know,

you're going to be better chance to get to you're bad, more chance to like, look the detail. It was a home invasion,

like the person has entered to someone, he's like, he's like, he's like, oh, man, they're going to never me recognize.

He had he had a gorget of beer in the frigo of the person, he has cheted in the, there, and he has not thought,

he said, by the way, the boss, he had but, he had, but they, he had, the canette

to beer, they've been, they've been, they've been, they're playing, so, he's, he's like,

I'm, Virginia, the crime. Because I just mean a cagull. Yeah. There's a de gallo. He's like, he has my ADN null part. Well, no.

He has been to buy the canette who he has left in the poulbell. You know, it's a little detail like that, even if you're thinking to think of all the details. It's kind of a great detail. I know, I know that.

I'd never so. Beatt. If you have been suhuis. A part of your cat, you know, we'll let's get a rams, you know,

I'm gonna, you know, at what you're at what you're saying, At which point you had Soxed. That's what you. You'd have You'd have just

open the lavabo and put your to putt to get a minute to get and get to get like that's like that's

like that's a bit if you see so sorry. He's there's been so I'm sorry Oh,

he's been decided to suicide or that? The domain of the job of the

job of the job that's okay yeah oh my it's so much

it's so much how It's certainly a motor. No, no, I'm going to like my grandmother. Because obviously, you're an

woman. Oh, yeah. Young, jolly, all that. And then, you know, you have to

be made on serious by these great mechant. Ah, it's been too time. There,

you think you've found the way to be to be a fact to be I'd say

that's a a work that's a time to have to be to be sure it's sure that the

years when you know when you say to say to say to someone it's that's that they're

re-genice it's a it's a idea to create, perhaps I had 20 3 years and I

defended someone of a I'm who defended who's like he's like that person

it's not going to happen honestly I'm not I'm not quite, in the sense that I'm imagine, I'm going to make a crime there, I think I'd have tend to make confidence more easily to someone of my age or more

year. 100%. Yeah, not just the sex, but really more the experience. Yeah, I'm just. But the sex also, because there are some people who, it's platt to say, I don't know if there's a lot of people who

there, but there are these men who, it's anchored that they're not they're not not they're not they're not to make a question,

just because I'm a woman, and he thinks that I'm not able to be being able to be able to be a lot of

a situation, or just because I'm a woman in a time of there, and there's, you know, there's, I'm

retry to your case, you can not have a vawrame, you can't have a vokof a man, you have been a

real, you know, the fact that I'm a man, it created a a man of a man of respect.

Like he'd to be able to a way because I was a woman, and maybe because of his past or

I don't know, but at a moment of a moment to do you can't be to be able to be able to be able to

a man, it's correct, there's no problem you know, sometimes it's more like that and there's there's more

that's more that's more than other. There are that they want specifically a woman, by example,

some, there's some people there, there are the clients who are people

that are a woman. Because it's it will be better better because it's a lot of people that's really

a woman who I'm there's really not, I'm not really not that's a question, but they're saying if I'm

a woman. It's a woman that doesn't know not at the person. A man who has made

some of whatever who is represented by a man, we're saying that's we're saying

we're right we're right that's right it's it's true it's true it's right but it's

even to the colleagues, it's been hard at when you're to be able to get a lot of

the time, I've seen, the other people who are the people who are trying to say, you know, that's a conned or so,

but we know not, you know, we know, not, you know, what I'm not, what's,

what's the work that's when I'm when I'm finished the course, you know, when I'm doing five hours

to work, you're doing, back to back, I'm there, I'm at all the whole, and it's sure that it's

the woman, you're a earl, the fact that you gain the dossier because you work in a lot, but there's always some people who are always

people who are there's sure that, they're a young, they're not what she's not, and it's not easy, you know, to pile it

to put up, especially when you get to turn to get to, but now, I'm going to it's a arrive more.

I think it it's a, it's a few years, I've made a few days, and I'm so,

pill me not pill me not not on the and he's not we're able to we're able to to discuss pardoned my

ignorance but I don't know that it said you know it's not you've got to come to 23 yeah

23 years pass his barro at 23 yeah is not too young? I think it's too

young personallyally if it was to re-fair I'd I'd make a other back

before but how it's past it's how many time the back I'm excuse

I know but I know that's how many time of the that's a student, you know, but you've got to have really

not a good, it's three years. Three years, and you can be an avoccur. Yeah. In the phone, you do your secondar. You finish your secondar, you've got two years on CEP, you've got three years at the university, and it's finished, you can't, you can pass your barrow direct, so, maximum, you know, I'm going to, you know, I was 17, so I'm going to

have 19, so I've got three years, bloup, I'm just Wow, good shot. Kim K, like, I'm sorry. Kim K, like, Kim K, is. It's not that she wanted to do, advocate of the defense to criminal. But it's a

bit that she's that's a bit of that's a parallelelel. Yeah, it's so. It's like that. It's a bit

in the innocence project or something like that. Technically' that's the technically, it's on the it's on the time. But, she's on the baron, finally, because she's the

had been a vocate of the of the defense, it's one of the yeah, it's a yeah, it's a major is he's the he's defended OJ Simpson.

Mm-hmm. But Kim Kee, is Kim Kardashian. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She'll have to do that. She, well, she'll pass her two times.

Wow. She's not passed. She's, she. She has tried to pass. Oh, my God. No, no. And, and, she, she's a side project,

like, she's, like, she said, I mean, she'll have on the right. No, no, I mean, I'm doing. But,

especially, with the number of the number of that, all the project alternative, and everywhere, all,

all the business, too, all this, you know, the barro, the problem with that, is that you

It does so much be focused during a time of time when you're really like a time plain. So, she's sure

she has made that like side project. You know, she's in her reality show like Kardashian, she's in her loge

costumed for going to film her episode of series that is filmed by a tele-reality and she's

in her life because she have to do her work on her she's in trying to her study of her

and she's all right, and it's all crazy and then after she's always after she's after she's at the

carcote yeah, she'll love I'm sorry I'm so sorry yeah but yeah but in she she

she's like she she can't I'm gonna I'm gonna it's important for her yeah it's like Rob Kardashian

it's normal that she's she's normal that she's probably she probably but I'm but I'm yeah I'm also

I'm also I'm sure but there's run to a meme in in place people are like I'm

called Kim Kay Not old. I love. Okay, I'm excuse to have to bring this my reference a bit pop culture

because I know not that. Is that you do you go to true crime? Another question that's about. Oh, 100% all the time. It's that

my Saturday after midday. Oh, yeah. It's got to... But there I've heard of crash. I just just said it's totally

trice. It's a little girl of 17-year and she has turned at 160 in a mur to sue

his chum and the passenger back here. And then she had tried, she'd tried to try with her car with her

having her had been a malase on and it's not intentional, and it's not a murder but the true crime, I like that

I'm doing that the weekend, and it's a lot sometimes you learn the things like the box of accident of a vehicle

I didn't even not that's a fact, in the fact, in the fact, it's a box in the vehicles that can

get used a freenage, if you had been an acceleration and some, and that I have heard that. It's just

so, it's It's adjusto. You have to adjusto. Oh, Lord, I don't know here, but there's not a lot of

in the book. Okay, because in the in the document they're going to get, if you have to have a rabbe

on your assurances because you have to adjusto who's a carcue that's a oh, but I didn't

know, it's like Desjardin. Oh, certainly that probably, but I know, but the true

crime, it's a malade, yeah, okay, so I'm just a bit of the job all the time, you're passionate,

you're just to go to work, all the time. It'll have the next times. It's all due it's a lot

there's a time, you know, there's a day, but that's the day, that's my fault. Okay, that's, it's my fault at 100%

it's my I'm going to, you know, I'm doing, and then I'm doing my agenda, and I think that I'm superwoman

and then I'm like, eh, you're not gonna, no, it's not, not, it's not back to do you're in your

party, so, so, you're like, you're like, oh, I'm feeling good, I'm feeling good, I'm going to book it, so, so, so, so, and then you're like,

tabarnock, you're like, ja'i past me. Well, that's so. And then, then you're looking your agenda, and you're like, jaired my life in this moment. But,

let's on, okay, I'll revene in the view of the subject of, the, uh, the, uh, ,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, can you know, can you know, let's talk, let's,

let's, let's see, there's a, there's, there's, there's, that you say, hey,

no, I, I, I refuse. It's too for me. No. No? No.

Defer, I can't. Some, there are some of the aid, there's a lot of and they were honestly, too gross.

Even if I've done to practice, I'm like, I'm going to be perhaps you'll be not to destroy your name no more

for a dossier, so I'm so I'm going to someone, I'm going to technically, we're two. I think it's

being able to be able to recognize its limits also, you know, when you're never made a mega project

and then you when you're like, well, what's I'm doing, it's both to ask you know, but usually

I'm doing usually, I'm really that the person me can't be a respect, I'm not, I'm not

refus a dossier. Okay, so, so, let's, you're an aggressor

sexual in series, who just, who just, and there, what, the process, is,

if, let's, if he's, if, if, if, if, if,

if, if, , they say, no, no, I've not not, I've got to come, hey, you've got to me this? How do it? Well, I'm going to

tell me, let's, what I'm going to make sure, it's the version, I'll say, okay, it's beautiful, I'll read the dossier, and we'll probably to fix a rendezvous.

I read the dossier, and by, and you know, you're doing it, you're all right, you're all right, you're all right, and then you're,

like, and I, then, I, I'm, yeah, I, I think, I think I'm, that I'm, you know, I'm not, you're

that I'm, because, de times it's more, to evite the confrontation, sometimes it's more that they

realize they're even, that maybe that's not necessarily the good thing. I'm going to play a game, I'm going to

like if I'm going to like to get to the coroner, I'll be this, that, so, so, so, so, so, so.

So, so, so, so, they're saying, they say, they're saying, when, they're not,

it's like, no, it's not, I'm not, I'm not, like, it's not, like,

it's not, like, it's view. So, de a time you make them to go to go to the

van, but there are people who are just salue, I've really made the crime, and I've just the major sentence possible.

I don't know the dossier, I want to see, I'm not if you're not so, and you know, sometimes it's not

possible to not to have a deal, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, we're going,

we're going to try, we're to get to the most possible, to you're that the mandate, you're not that you're

not going to be able to try to you can't You know, de furs, the prison, it's inevitable also, so if he's committed, let's on, he has committed the murder

where he has made, and he said, and he said, oh, I, I've said, oh, I, I've got to do, but is, you know, it's got the right to do, let's see, let's on the judge,

you know, you, do it's like he didn't, I can't, be to be mean. You can't, be not, I can't,

I could say, well, he'd never did, it would, it would be hindue the court in error, and it would be problematic

at my barow. Okay, okay. If I see he's he's I can maybe I'm not

other sort of for example my client who's far with a gun on him. He's got on

I'm not to say that he's not to say it but the police have maybe made a foul

made, maybe they've got maybe that's that I'm going to go and the

same thing with the capacity affable. Your client that's he pete the he's not going to say he was

clearly suh behind his volume. But if you have mal made their devour,

I'm able to exclude, and he's a quitted, but I'm not going to say he's not done to do you

know, I'm not doing with the thing he's not, well, you, well, we know, by the time, the taut,

the taut, the taut, the time, the time, you know, sometimes you do, sometimes you say, if the

request, not, we're not, we're playing the case, sometimes, it's just really on

on a little question, and we know that after that it's not pass not, it's possible, it's

it's not that's for that's for that sometimes it's a lot of it's not in the case in the case where is it's

that's there's a sexual that there's not enough or let's about that you know

that's that's very that's very difficult to prove that's that's it's

but that you know that he he said he said he's he said he he's

he said he he's been I'm back I'm not over under interview my damn and

that he's say the reality, it's it's a real honest. If you don't know

but you know it's I'm not, you know, I'm I'm in you know, to see,

it's like, and then people, they don't know that we have done that we're doing because

if I see the truth, there's the message, you know, the photo, you know,

there's, there's a there's a decision, to not to not to be to be declared

culable, you know, I'm saying, but you there's if there's, so, so,

so, that it's perhaps in your interest to the negotiate and to be in you know, you know,

you have to make a client that's not in their interest, it's not in a process if he is to lose,

he will just have revive the traumatism to the plaintiff it's not the fun to have to tell

a planionate that you get to when you know, when you know when you say that's not the

people who they come to us and then you probably ponging the double. So,

it's not the fun not because he he's a manty. He's just just made

to lose the time. Okay. How do you treat this situation? So how do you do you do you

do you're to do you're to do you do it? I'm going to the risk to say you're going to be

declared a couple of people and then we're doing the chief so, by example he doesn't

play to I'm not play to the aggression sexual but he's pre to play a coupable

a voice of but we're trying to negotiate there's is that you'll elvraiser the aggression sexual and we'll plead

to be culpable to be in the way, I'm trying to see that's a question, then we're if it's a lot of, we'll form the leave,

and he'll know, and all the people can't, and all the people are able to negotiate like that on these elements.

And if it's really, I'll have, we're in a process, and we're now we've made in he'll make

his testimony, and he don't know his version, and sometimes you think, it's that

that I've seen in in a podcast, the time your client is your worst enemy you do you

do you know, you think he's going to be acquitted to the time he's talking, when he says, he's like, well,

he's going to and then he is in doing, he said from the he said, he said, he said, he said,

he said, oh, no, I'm not, I'm not, he said, he's just by the bra, I'm just put in

that's like, so, so, so what's the question, then you've been to do you have been in front, you're not

a thing, you're not At a time. There's some there's some surprise that I'm in a class

to be in front of course. I'm not not sure you're like, okay, your time okay,

he's talking about that's a okay, all they're about it's because of the time you're doing and then you

admit to and then you're like, no, monsieur, we can't have to make a court, you

can't be you get to we're not we're not we're not to make sure, you know, you know,

if you're saying, if you're if you're doing that's clear to declare a couple, you're declared What do you admit? What's you

do you make? We'll try to do it We'll try to do you. In which sense? Well,

you'll tell you. No, but by example, yeah, but, you know, how I could say that? Let's say,

no, but I'm not frapped, I'm put up to face can't, but I'm not done a cut to

point, but I'm I'm trying, I'm trying to do you when we're going to when we're

going to say, okay, Mr. he will not pleaded the chamoisier. So, that's all the

people are content, we know, it's just a question of words, you know, just voice there's just voat

there's people that they're not what they're to say, it's a voice to do you, you're not to give a

point. It's not that I'm that I'm the other way to have made a word of and you

have put up but you're a voice of yeah? But it's not you're not you know, there's not

there's not there's a word from your word process. We're at process, and all the

people don't their version, and after that the judge is there that's a question there's because an time timegation

is a proof. Some people are like there's just a timegation, a timegation, a time time that's a fact, I can

go to be talking about my story, and it's a proof, I don't need of image, I, not a reason

of photo, and it's that I'm that I'm in the conference, sometimes the people don't not put point

because they say, but they're not of proof, a temongage is enough. Because Because of

, what's what's going to you can't you can't be a lot of you know,

you know, when the person will be able to you know, you're not to say, you've got done a cut of

today to corroborate your to react, you're not so, so there's really just your

power, there's, and there's people who are people who are able to give up to give up

to give the detail and you're not necessarily. You've been there's really people who are

really 100%. Is you have you a type of case of you prefer if you're not

not quite or it's not it's weird I'm sorry to be able to I prefer I prefer when there's not

I'm not the victim. In the phone I prefer the affairs of drugs the gun the things of the

cooey all, that's that that I'm that I'm the most even capacity affable

it's it's these things are so it's it's mechanical it's so it's

so it's it's not But, de facto, it's, it's, it's, it's a pretty problematic. And I've had used these clients non-coupable, and you know, you know what, you know who's not

people, and there's people, as there are people who are people who are people who are there's been able to piece of these dossiers,

of all the piece to gash the life of someone, I've seen, it's an impuventable. And the person, after that, I think the person

had, I had said, or it was, you know, but she continued to, to talk on the social or to to make these

declarations to do you know we're to be a matter when we're to get to the process it's a disaster

the danger with that's the people what are, what's the really of value is the people that there are

more than than those who say that's it's advantage all the victims that say

because yeah but if it's a manteous if it's decal that. No but

because of that and it's that that comes to cause of the people who instrumentalize the system

so that's the system at their fine the real victims they're not not true when they're not they're just

it's just a power maybe that's a question that's a manteer that I'm I'm talking about in my video in my video in

line you'd be able to see the comments oh my god plenty of them that's all they're all it's all

it's all it's epipventable it's epipoventable So it's for so that I like I like it's when it's a false plinthe

because you can really get in but I know that after that it's going to endash all the person who's made

a false complaint a one way but we're going to be going to be it's all it's all

we're doing we're doing we're doing there's there's there there's the real victim

there too 2016 2016 2016 the 2020 you're you

a view in the system really a vague after the Mito? The plus of people who are in court by the court by that, MOYIN.

I'd say that the criminality change. We'd say that 2020, for me it's been more, at cause of

COVID, the vol of char, the fraud, the things like so, it's really that I'm more

remarked. Before that, I thought also that, I've started in 2016, so 2018,

it-ish, just in 2020, all the whole of all the world all the world was proxenet.

It's prox, prox, prox, prox, prox, all the man. And then,

they were created a squad, and they were sent to they were they were they're they're

they're all right, and they said, it's calmed a bit, because they

have been a lot you're like, you're like you're like a criminal,

because you it's it's it's it's it's They're like, they're like They're like, they're like.

Ah, we're gonna be cross in a year. No, I don't not frapping person, but it's what I like and the two times that you're in a conference, you use a vocabulary

that's really popular, that's what in the very sense, it's a compliment that, I'm glad to say, but I'm in Quebec also, of base,

so, so. So, it's perhaps the Quebec that, sometimes I'm out of some things like the patent, and the people are

like what? You see, on court, the patent to Mr. Judge, there's a accent of Quebec that's

yeah, yeah, there's the accent of Quebec that's and then for yeah, you know,

you're in there's a Latin so, yeah, there's a little all the

words that's all the is sure. Is that you can't just, I know,

the limit by as you can know to you can be about if you know,

yeah, yeah, like, saying, yeah, there's, there's, is there

there, there is, there violence sexual or , violence conjugale that you do you

do you know that's in people are in I'm more I think they don't know I'm saying maybe that I'm

like I'm don't feel like your clientele you choose by the part of what you do you do you know maybe of your

practice there are there are that there are there they're there are there just that and they're

like I'm like I'm like I'm sure it's like I'm really but I'm feel like they don't

come back me these people So you've never had a case? I've had been in

it's more it's a it's quite long time, it had made some for the pedo-criminality in line,

he had frapped everywhere in the computer of the people and had arraught people for

the possession of fichie so I'm in this project that but it's long time it's what

in 2019 perhaps 2018, 2018, 2019 but on I'd don't have

been not had other okay okay is what you if you I think

if, let's say, tomorrow there's a meeting, and he said, I said, you know, you'd have to

be used to be a little bit? Or do you think you're like that the same thing? You know, I'm not

that you're, you know, and it's for that, you know, there's a case, there, there's a moment of

a moment of a time, I was in the cell, and it's certainly at the sentence, I can't

say, to know, but I'm already in a podcast, and I've had played is the culpable,

because we had done, before the process, there's a something we're like a question, it's like a

pre-procett. So, it's like, that's the way you can test your practice your or,

I'm, the time I'm the client realize the amount of the situation. Because, sometimes,

they're not realise the situation, I'm trying to they're trying to they're going to be able,

and that's being able to that I'm not able, even if I try to make sure, even if I'm

infiable, it's credible, say, well, say the truth. And then they're confronted to that, it's like they're going to be decliquey. So, after this inquiry

that, we had pleaded culpable, and then had arrived with a letter, and she had lived with the violence during 10 years. During 10 years,

she'd been fat, she'd been violated, she'd had been. Yeah, it's made. Yeah, it's made. It's all right. It's all right.

It's been, by his own and it's eposvenable. And then, he'd lise his letter, and I had the light, I'm like, I can't,

I can't be able to play in the room. But it's have to have of the air but it really priss.

The resilience of the Madame to come in, there was even not a paravan because we put put in

because we know, I'm going to make the letter without before her she said, she had read the

letter and she was like, she was like, I've seen, it's like, it's impuventable, like it's eposomable, the poor

madam, you know, and that they come, that she she can't tell her story and she recount

how she has managed to get to to that, she'd just, she would have a live

this madam that would have a lady imagine to be aggressive sexually of your sexualally before your

life, and you're long time to tell you can't talk about no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm

but how he has decided to go to an abac as he's there's there's there's

and why it's, and why it's, but he didn't, but he was technically what

it's been he said, I'm not said, I'm not fere this, I'm not there's not no problem,

we've got to go to go to do make a so that's the pre-prosce I'm going to I'm going to your pre-prosate

I said, I said, you're question, I'm there's a question, we've got to be on these elements that, to-tock, talk, to-tock,

we're going to we're going to get to be the way, and then after that you said, yeah, I think I'll play the coupable so it's like we

convenue of a crime of faith that's come to all the world he said, that I know that I'm that I'm

know-the this, you're making the fact that Mr. had been contented it's, Mr. was content. Mr. DeVere

recognized of the fact, and we've heard for a sentence, and Madame is coming to tell us to explain

the consequences. Yeah. What was the sentence for the phone? No, there was nine years? No, it's not

so much. It's not much. There'd be more. The coroner had more than consideration, but,

yeah. But you've done your job. Well, I've done what I did what I do. Like,

Yeah, a A guy like Like that's super emotive in seeing the Madame, but you know that job is

to defend the guy who, at a lot to be in the at yo, you know, yeah, I know,

I know, I said that I've been to say, but I'm to ask there to be there to

for you, at this level that in your value, how you do you do like,

okay, it's my job, I'd say, I'd say, I'd like I'm in mode of pilot automatic. I'm in mode of pilot automatic, and, you know, even, there's times, like, I'm getting more

used to, you know, I'm doing, you know, the hate, or, rather the judgment by the part of my job, I'm getting more habitual. But at the beginning, when I was this type of dossier,

and that, just, and that was mediated, and in the press, and I received, and it was coming to be able to find, and I was, like,

to answer to respond to this type of commenter that, I was, I'm reinforced a little more with the time also in saying, you know, it's not personal. Even,

sometimes the people have to understand that it's really that's really that's really that's really, that Mr. imagine Mr. posed the questions all and Mr.

had to be defended all alone, without connoit, a bit of the engrenage, it would be, it would be a impoverable

for the system to complete. So, sometimes it's more that we are there to try to make the decision,

to make realise some on our side, because the work that's the time, the time,

the time, there's a there's a process, I'm going to go to a process, I'm to get to get to make

realize that's it's not sure to get a cause, you're capable, you're capable to be conscientious, but that's

I didn't, I think, I thought, I thought, that you know, I was, you know, whatever you

have done, you know, no, it's, yes, it's really, it's really, is,

is there, is there, there, there, there, crotty, they're like really, that you say, hey, Carl, I don't know how he's

for the real, yeah. I can't judge my colleagues. No, not your colleagues. We say, we're not your colleagues. But, you know, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you see that's true,

that's what I can't, so that's just like, it's like, in all the domain, I think, there's there, there's, there's, there's, there's a lot,

and there's, you know, you know, the police, it's the same, the people, the people are, the people are, There are the police

who are, they're trying, they're trying to and they're going to ruin the image of all the world. It's the same

in the same thing, there's the same there's a lot of people who are there's over there's over and there's there's a lot of

all the domains it's all it's all right I know, I want because I'm you know, I'm not

not talking to all the moment to know, we're all right to get to you, it's you, it's you,

it's you, it's, he's in a con, and he's like, no, Mr. Judge, I'm at the fact, you know, to say, no, at you know, at a moment of a day, yeah, yeah, all of a whole, all the time, you know, I'd say, I'd like, you know,

and you know, and then, you're like, and he's like, oh, it's fair, it's fair, it, so, it's not, you, like, it's true, it's, you know, the permanent, the permanent, yeah, the permanent,

I have, yes, the problem in your job, that you've made, of your job, that you've made, oh, see, like, I, you just you just point to pogned something,

like you can't you're trying to find out of you know, Christ, that's the thing I'm

to have to have done. I'm doing it. And it's, and it's, and I'm so, and I'm content.

I'm just, I'm sorry, he's been and I'm, and I have a record, so, you know,

at the time, I said, my strategy, is that at my strategy, is that my strategy, is that

I'm doing, and I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, and I'm but I know, so I'll see. I'll see

to what I'm... He thinks that I'm... He thinks that I'm... And then, by the fill in an eggue, you'll amending, and you're like, hey, in passing,

I have an enregistreement to you know, you just say that, but we're going to be able to do that you're an enregetterment. Yeah. It's not in the

regal. It's not. It's not. I can't. I'm not. I'm going to hear the enresteerment. He'd say,

oh, okay, well, well, now I'm now I'm just I've heard the judge who said, pardon, what? The real verity? There's a false

verity now. I was like, I know, I know that's I know that I know that's a story, but that's a new piece

of all. Of all piece. We can't what's what's his story? I can't

I can't. I can't name a name the name. I can't not too get in the detail,

but you know, it's an history of chican on internet, and then someone who has been

someone who part of a false print for distribution of information intimate. And then, yeah, he made me want to be the image, and the other

me showed me to see, and so, you know, finally, we've got to be able to make up to put up to piece, because the girl, she said, no, but it's impossible

that, that's possible, if the person he has never gone to do that thing, no, no, no, no, then, finally,

we've got to public on internet, and all the kit, so, he, he thought, he didn't, that I was,

and when I, when I said, okay, now, I'll say, the very, the very, so, that she had never

anything had never a name. Finally, no, he had nothing he had nothing,

he had been and he was so nice because the judge had started his judgment he said,

he said, he had started his judgment in saying that there there are there

people who live in a reality parallel and it's an universe that's an universe,

it's incredible. Well, you know, it's just it's con mitomann it,

it's just a mutomann, it's just, we're also in the podcast it's, What's what?

It's narcissic, the people are but it's dangerous. But for you also, it's a lot of Is it is a child in a car?

You know, you know, you're not formed for that, and you know, that's for that I said, that I said,

that's the three young for coming to start in a drug criminal, I think that we'd

have a basic because this type of comportment that's not easy. It's not

easy to do with them it's never of their fault. It's the fault to all

the whole all by them. So, it you have to learn to deal with this

type of personality that, and it's all exist, there's, there's a psychopath also, it's difficult

deal with this kind of of personality that, but the narcissics, it's the end of

a carer, you're like, not the choice of your first, you're accompanied by an

advocate who can't do you do you do with some, because I'm doing,

I'm saying that, and I'm saying, let's, let's just if you're with an

advocate of a 23 or a advocate of 23 and then I'm not going to

do you know not just just an affair of I'm feeling more in confidence to someone to people who

think that's normal. Is that this person can be be able to systematically? Technicallyically

if you're you're doing for a week for that's for that's for that's for that you

choose the endro where you do you do you receive the formation that

is necessary I'm me I'm made a pitcher I would say, during my six

months, but in the same time I'm very much because I'm to learn to be able to me bring to my own

right, I'm afraid to do you to do you know, when I'm a problem, because I can't me address to

someone, how I'm and I'm made, and I'm made, some, you know, I'm not,

sometimes, you're in a situation, and you're in a question, you're a question,

but that, I'd probably maybe know, how to deal with this type of client that,

and, you know, I know, I've seen quite after 10 years I know after 10 years, I know how

how to do you, how amn the things, because of the place of course, that's the point of doing it, because you can't

be able to do, you know, you're not, you know, you know, you know, you've got to be an way

to let me and make, and he comes, and he comes he, he makes, he makes, he's,

the personality that's this type of person, you can't , you can not say too too

fast because that's it will be clashy and it will be able to you know you're not

a way, you know, you know, that's a way to get to be able to work with you. But it

will never two guys that you can't, it's a kind of the guy he's snowed

and the other he said, don't me your hand, and he want to

he wants to be my hand to take my hand for that you're a fact, it's a

person preferrere than to give her after, it's just it's a, you know, there's a like it's like,

there's like, there's, like, there's, sort of, like, he's, like,

he's, like, he's, , so, it's just a , it's a fable, but it's a way,

that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, because, so, so,

so, so, so, all the advocates of the defense are formed with that because there are a lot of, in the case,

I have the impression that's a bit because it's a subject that we're not a word that, conarcyc, it's like we're on an artis,

it's more and more talk, ah, it's arsic, oh, it's arsic, oh, it's arsic, oh, it's not, but the people have, the

people have necessarily to know, it's what, but you're to learn to with that with the time. You know,

and, and, and, and, and, the people, the people don't realize

not that they also, I'm like tendency to think it's a spectrum. Like, let's all

all the influencers are in the end of the spectrum. It's true that. It's really we're considered

like a because we see, we're doing to talk to but it's our work. But it's

very, sometimes I'm to pose the question at the beginning or at time. You did you

do you do you just put in the question? But I think I'm not, I think

there's there a party of narcissism that exists it's sure and certain in my

let's say, I'm not a part, it's sure, but it's not but it's true, but it's true, you know,

there's a certain degree of narcissism where you're not you're not you're able to be being able to be able to think by you

and not even, and not even, you know, it's correct to say me and to think that you're the shit. Yeah,

you're the right, like, you're the price, like at the end of the day, you're the time of the time, you're able to be able

to be able to make a little introspection when you're at your show you know the time to recognize your

time to recognize your time, but there's a people who are never capable like you know, they're saying, they prefer to

you know, I'm going to get the double after the process, I'm offo. He said, I'm going to go and I'm going to

go to go to and you know, you know, no, no, okay, there's no, okay, well, there's no problem,

I've got seen the deschances, you know, the consequences, you can't see, those points far are, your points far are, your points

Fables are there. It's a partying after. I like your mime of your point Fereb I'm like you know it's all

like that like that after that they're going to say no but you have not said that, I'm not all right, all you're by

it's right all you're all you're saying so it's like you're like that at the at the beginning I didn't

and you know but you never said that I'm I've made I've made let let's let let's

let's have done air by the other part of the really that you have made to say you

have to insults like to see that like you're several times, I'd say

not necessarily the other other I think think the courtes the people are the

government I'm saying let's say the family Yeah, 100% yeah okay,

okay, yeah, and how you're what's what's what's, what's, it's the

job, but, you know, I've made a process, it's like, it's been a photo, it's like, my family,

you're like, but you would do do you're the photos, you know, I understand that it's sensible, you know, and I'm a lot of empathy for the family, and I consider,

like, I'm, I consider, like, I'm considered, like, they're 100% of the victims collateral, like, they're victim, indirectly, so, they have the right to live their emotions, but why do you bring some

to my sense, like, you? You do you want to do with that? You want to make on internet? Like, I'm already on the internet. I'm already there, baby. I'm already there, but, you know, it's for me intimidate, I

don't know, there are when I'm asking, when I'm saying, when I'm doing when I'm trying, I'm trying to be a bit

sick. You know, sometimes it's a bit of a bit of a bit of course, I'm a lot of personal, you know,

at the end of the day, it's really not personal, and at the end, I'm, I'm, I'm back to come in war,

but there's people who are in war against me, I'm the enemy public number one. But I think it's

that it's with. And then, in plus, the fact that you know, it's

kind of, you know, you're, you know, because you're just you're doing this cause

that, and you're on the so that's so that people can't be able to find,

so it's a, oh, he's a , oh, my God, sometimes, the time,

the comments that I see, like, I'm, okay, it's correct, you,

it's not that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

but, Is that you consults, sometimes, you know, like all this stress, this pressure, that's the need, you have some need to help? It's important to consult. And, you know, I think we're a little all in the radio social. Defe, sometimes it's like too much, in the same time, you know, I'd like, I'd like to , I'd like, I'm just like, anyone who is on the radio social. Sometimes I'll have ferexed for chitin'bomb, for that, you know, my revenue,

you know, it's, it's, it goes, it's going to function of view. but, de-foy, the comments are really mean, oh, my God. And, you know, sometimes it's, with my domain, I think it's too much also, with my

work, plus the resos. So, you, I don't know the choice to go to just for ventilate a little and be able to be able to be able to be

some of the rickie, like, some of the weird, I'm going to do you. It's not bizarre,

you do you. You do it, you do you do? It's, it's, it's bizarre to not it's, I think, in the society

in the life that we have today, it's bizarre to not do it do, because I don't know how the people will survive at this, at this view, if it's not not turn not around the

meditation, because we're, we're all, we're all right, you know, so, so, de f'clock traditional,

like, you know, just for vent out a but, sometimes I'm also do find the tricks to block my chakry, and with the spree and the

things, I'm in all, I, in the, I'm, in the, just to bring a time, It's effective, even five minutes per day, it's all the difference.

Because, you know, sometimes you know, some of the process, and, you know, these things of sexual during six weeks, sometimes it's lured, and you're like, oh, my God, you have an impression

to absorb the energy to all the world. Your chakra, it's blocked, right, there, they say, take, take the spree, and he's pre-toe on the hour of the midi,

and then, you know, and then, you know, it's more, Sty-Streine placebo, you're sure. You know, you know, you know,

you know, you're the impression that it's, yeah, and it's more that, there's a lot of people,

there's a idea of, they're in depression, they consume, you know, they're not, there's a big,

patch the be a bell gross link in two dossier, like, I'm never seen technically

of my view, okay? No. Of my my eyes never view, the machar a bit of

the man. You can't judge. Yeah, clearly, clearly, I've never visualized. I, like, he has represented my

aggressor asexual, I had some of the same. Probably, he was young. He had laredes, like, speedy, but, like, over, you know? So, when you're all your gestures are... You see, like, the mimic, I, I don't. I don't know.

Maybe he was really hyperactive, too, I don't know. It's kind of tricky. If you're a bit of patched with the drug, it's very... You know, I feel for that person. No, there are who are the detress

psychological around me that I see, but that's what I'm that's not in my entourage proche. But the thing is that I think I don't know much of the

world because sometimes I like just decompressed and decroche to my job. Is it a type of abocat specific that you have a tendency

to have more a detress, let's. No. The defense, criminal. No. Yeah, it's impuventable.

It's impoverable. And, and there's why, and there's that I say, it's important to be detachy rapidly, because some of there are who are people who are who are trying the stress of their client who that's, for example,

to their own, like if it's they were who they were doing to be able to to getache because it's not you, you, you know, you,

you have your time, you're not your life, it's not your choice, it's not you that, so it's important to pass this cassette

that in your head, you know, if the person has decided to to remove the life to someone, it's not your fault. You know, there's

so much you can do also, you know, too. Yeah. Well, we're going to be in my head, it's more,

well, but an avocat who defends the victim, and that the victim, you see that's a victim,

and that crime has, finally, he's probably, it's got in a tabarwate, you know, even more,

because you you say, you're saying, hey, it's not, it's not, it's not, He'd say, hey, my victim,

all his life, have been to have some repercussions, and in plus of that, he wasn't paid. So, we'd be paid. So, I'd say that, I'd say, that I'm, like, you're, like, you know,

these avocas who are on the other side, who are for the victims, and they're nother in tabaret when their victim is... Not really. No. You know,

it's, perhaps that we don't have this line of proximity, with the coronet, like? It's like two gang? I'd say, that we're all

a total a toup but we're a little we're separated because you don't know,

I'm not, I'm sure there's a there's a there's a going to docker and there's maybe, but

I don't know, it's perhaps just me that really, I'm really, I'm detache to the world that

when I come in to come to my question, at what at what we do you,

we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, there's,

plenty of things of things what it's what's what's we know we're in our

little little bollo do dodo what, bolo do do do do deldo

bolo do do dildo and during the time there's like the mafia and there's some people who's the

person who yeah and Stein Viville there's about that's oh yeah it's incredible

nothing it's yeah it's sometimes people are like no we're not we're not

at Chicago. You don't know what's going on. You know, Montreal, you know, without to say, you know, without you can't be able to stop to stopper to sleep the night. You know, you know, to be able to be tabassed

on, it's the coin of the road, but, you know, the malady mental is present, to more and more, and that you see, the attack in the metro, I'm going to,

and I've said in a podcast, there's all the time every time, there's a time, there's a lot of, there's a lot, completely gratis, someone who is completely

decompensed, and, in the metro Yeah, in the metro. Yeah, in the metro. And there's plenty of things that are not necessarily on the current

of the carties that you don't know and all you know around the hot water that? At water? Where is it where's what I'm

at water? The metro at water, that? Ah, it's not a place of water? It's on it's just there.

Yo, I was in San Henri like, I'd say, I'd say, oh, I'd say, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm talking, I'm talking, Wait, the fucking Semine past.

My chum has to get to buy a gris of a caravangy wagon He's not for a seven-up flap,

okay? We're in the bank of the building of the magazine of meb just in front to watch at

water. Oh, did you have to watcher? He's just there, there, yeah,

that's at water that's that's not that's it's back, and it's park just in

face, I'm my wife, my friend, and my chum rent and he will satch

a urchette a I see a guy. He arrives at a velo, I see spot the G-Wagon, he criss his his bike on

car on the track he arrives in front of my window, he he goes, he got high-contact with him, he does he say he's a lot

to get to he's all, he's all right, he mott, blah, he mott, he mott, he went on his car, but I

had a eye-contact with. So, there are two scenarios. So, I'd not in the auto and he vandalize the char,

or if there There were not no people around and they'd be embarked me and my friend

my friend my friend it's a year ago but it's there's a lot there's plenty of people in

distress in this moment it's weird like the malady mental the poverty it's

create there's but it's the big crisis of bauter that's that's that

that's it that's I'm I'm not I'm there's a there's there's a

it's a it's a place for you for the for the for there for there

for there people Like, Morial, we need to, we're going to come to see because it's

the criminality that's the criminality that we could control and it's platt because Mr. Madame, all the world

can be victim to that. I've had to launch a yogurt to get too bonaventure the other way. The person

was completely decompensed she had consumed the drug and she had put a yogurt and she did you say

that you could let that do you can't do that I didn't do you do it did you do you don't do

your car I'm not the time to call the police you But, call me. No, but for the

real, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, okay, there's, there's, there's, there's, that, you could be,

to say, some, we're, to say, that, you'd say, to be a person,

who could be able to me, to be able to be able to be able to see to see,

to be to be alert to some entire, you, the people, you,

the people, the people who have the health I don't know that's not that's not it's not you know,

if you know, if you know, there's a quite a question to make your not ex-prey and it's not it's probably,

I'm not called the police because there's there was a person completely decompensed in the metro.

You know, a manse by the he'd be not to launch his bottle by term I'm just

the line of the metro I'm saying like salue on this station, there's a question

he's completely decompensed he just he's just lance his his way he was Facts they're

arrived, they're controlled, and they're they're being in charge. But, you know, to just

rest to be able to be able to the fact that you're a lot of there's a lot of but it's a mann't of

the criminality that's quite be very and it's and it's, you know? Is it the doce abstein,

what's what you're the thing? Like, in a phrase? No, it's right. It's like

we know that we know the head in the sub. I think they know for these They're

ignorant. It's platt because the world, you know, the world that's

like, you know, you're said that, there's a there's people that, there's people,

we're like, they're consp and then, and then, and then, they're like, ah! That's just

that's just that's just that, because I've seen the page and it's all in black,

all blocked, it's sure that there there's sure that there's there that don't necessarily that's not

that you know that you know, what you know, what the people know, Imagine what we're not. It's really just what you

want to know who they're saying. So it's the more it's the more at the time to see it's like to see what you know what's like it's like

it's like someone another time me say is what you think you think the people there's a brie of a line of the system of

justice I'm like because the people have not access to system of justice to the United the process are in line

you can go to see what we're what we're what we're what we're well be well let's

say the new, they'll never say what's the there's just they're just saying what they're really

that's really people are going to say yes, it's the thing is the people are bad, but what's that's the person's

someone who's because I'm in but let's say Mr. Madam all the world will be sure never? Is what

what do you think that now, you know, I'm more, I'm not like, I'm trying to I'm trying to

me ask me question, but, okay, I'm They've been They've announced, they've announced, they've announced, they've been

There's a There's a baby that's not long. There's a pandemic of Havana virus, Avana, I'm

doing what, in the time, is that, is it like, oh, it's a sort of same time,

because there are people who say, they want to do you want to do you know, like I'm

like I'm there's any there's, I'm not the answer, I'm, now I'm can't

never be surprised. I mean, we say I'm saying. We know we know. Oh, I see that. I see

not. I mean, sometimes I'm that I'm like to live in a world of delusion also.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm so I'm saying that all you know, but we're we know,

we know, we know we can't, we know, we know, we know, we're like, oh,

oh, I'm, oh, there, there's a abstain, abstain, and after that, but it's like,

you know, I'm going to go, I'm going to report my phage. No, I said, it's that's a sort of, you know, all this thing, so, you know,

there's this affair that? So, you know, do you, do you know, do these info that you see, in those stories like that? No. Or your colleagues who say, yeah, what do you think, you know, you don't know. Or do you're not in Quebec.

I'm excuse me, I'm sorry, but we're going to go to Quebec, the Havanavirus. Oh, but that, yeah, there's, no, I know, I see, I see, I see, I'm still, I see, I'm, I see, but there, but there's,

that you're like like that, I don't that's not that's not that's that's fucking intense

and how it's how it's how it's not to get to the population because it's a lot of the government

in Joanney. Yeah, we're doing more, we're more more to say, we're more,

we're more, I'd say, there's some of some of the project of law, you know,

there's there's there's different and we're not not quite, you know,

by example, the $2, $2,000, now, if you're more than $2, cash on you, the police have the right to get a lot of the police have the right to

say it's illegal. What? You're saying. If you're more than $2,000 in your poche, you're $2,500 on, okay? Because you just have been to have a event, let's And then, and then, the police are like, well, it's what, you know, technically they could say it to say it, and it's a lot,

to say, it's legal. So, yeah, you have to pay an evocat. Yeah, so, that's $1.5. It's parted. It's worth, it's worth more cheques than $2,500. But there are some of them, you know, that they're all also also, but, you know,

it's a little bit of the table, in the same to the time, it's a minute, I'm in a minute,

I'm doing it, and I'm doing the last, and I said, oh, my God. And then, I've made a video with,

but you know, you know, because there's because there there's a crime with the money, excuse me,

but it's like that I'm a pretty, and then I'm after I'm back, and then I'm back,

but technically they're not the right, you know, okay, it's what, let's, let's,

The choice of mo. No, no, in the wrong sense, I'm trying to be. I'm a baddie. I have some of my I have some, I'm a lot of my poach, I have some of the drug, I get to do. I'm in my car.

I'm afraid of because I have a lot of brulee. There, I look really of a bandy. I have a lot of vitre, and all tinted, and all that's all. And then, all, and all, and all. doubt, because, like, I'm quite quite, I'm in

my rights, what's he's going to, what's saying, hey, out of your auto, I'm not going to do you, they're not going to do. They're not. There's not who's

there who's going to say, there's a lot of is sure. Is it sure? Is it sure? Is it sure? There's a right. And there are,

saying, well, there are going to say, no. Okay, so there's right to be able to be able to do it. And there's a lot of and they're going to

be able to do this. But why, why the money, how we're saying, hey, evite, your poach, but he is not obliged to view their poach, technically. No, absolutely not.

Well, so, so, that's a thing, for the bandit. But surely, they've probably try to try to try a way to putney, kind of, you know, sometimes, they've been being able to be able to be able to putney, in a fashion,

they're going to say, their light, and after, the light, it's, hey, it's, it's a sound the cannabis in your chard, and then, after that, they're to be, then, they're going to fooier, and then, after that, they're foolea, but,

but we're not so that, we're not that, we're that we're able to retabble, well, it's not like that's that's happened and we're not, we didn't say, no, there were not,

they're not really because they're just fooier the world for fuling the okay, if it's, there you know the right.

They're going to they're doing with the capacity affabble by the cannabis, they're going to they're going to get to fowier.

Because that you have the capacity affabili, and that they're the right to all right to fooier, they're

going to go to goy, they're going to be the environment immodewing of the char, yeah, but you have

that you have a mandate for the Char, no. Technicallyly, if you're to be able to have to

get to find out of their environment. And if it's an excuse to, oh, but I thought I thought, I'm sorry,

it's like you get to rest. It's like, uh, the motive was false, blah, blah, and there's

that we make that that's like we that's like a that's so, is that is that can that's, that's,

it's a thing, all that's, all the, even if it's a car more, there's, Right don't.

In certain case, yeah. Because he's not not found in the good conditions. No, but no,

there's a no, there's a guy who's a question. That's a joke? No, it's really really.

Hey, well, that, that's just for that, because of a cause of the cause of the proof,

like that's it's an impover of, when I've when I've when I've seen when I'm the person

was like, I've made just called a decision. Well, you say, the judge has been paid,

the judge, the judge, the rules, are still clear. You know, it's so the thing,

I can understand, you know, and it's for that I'm the person that person who is the person who's

the person who do, well, we know, there's a drug on you, I don't know, and it's why you do you

that's a create some, it's a creation, and it's a question, because, sometimes it's that it's

that you're to make people because if you're accept a one, they're they're going to do the money,

but you can't say, no, you can't be that, after that, there are others who will not

want to do it, not be able to be to get their inquiette. The police is you have to make out of the world, I imagine,

that they're excluded a car. They're not they're going to get to be there, but... They're going to they're saying.

They're not, it's not, it's not a-hirt. It's just that... I think, it's just that, in the case, I mean,

it's just that when they're doing their job, you know, when they're when they're doing my thing, it's, it's, it's,

it's, you know, when they're doing their job, I'm really content because it's necessary as a job is a great of being a copacier

yeah, it's a few I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm not even, imagine you want to imagine, you've got to get to get to and they're gonna,

I'll crash it to you can't be a job after? You're gonna you can't, we can't, not, okay. Not, okay.

Not when you're not, you know, when you know, imagine the job. But it's it'd crash on, it's up, it'd crossed up,

it would be funny, it would be fun. We'd interoperance this podcast which was certainly extremely good for you

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for you other. There's a lot of that you're fucking not in that. So,

that, exclude the car more. No, but you, let's, you know,

you know, that's, that's that's, that's that can't that, that's,

that's, it's really, that's it gets, at every No, I think not. I think that each

law has a reason to be. Some, it's just more long. Some of it's just more

complicated, but it has their reason to be in some of the dossier of sexual, you have not

the question on the paste of a person. So, let's let's let's, I'm,

I'm accused for the first September 2012, 2026. Let's even not even not even

not even happened again, but I'm not the right to pose some of the relations that we've had used in 2024 and those that we've used in 2025, it's illegal.

I'm obliged to make a record and write to write and write about why I'm going to ask for my defense and so. But it's due time. It's, it's

these procedures, but it's necessary for that the victim can also have the right to their dignity. So I think

that each thing is made in place there's a reason and there's just to understand the reason and respect that. And if if I have

to do I face a request, then I have to do it So if, let's let's let's the criminal, he has batted his family,

but he has batted all these women before. You can't be able to say, hey, check, it's a pattern

recurrent, it's something that's a made and refate and refate. That's the that's the one, my

client, technically I'm not, I'm not he's been put in the person, you have batted all the

pattern, but the crown can't be put the problem because it's a more

reputation and it's not legal as proof. because he has been changed? It's just not legal. At least he says,

at least that it's at this point similar that... And that's really deguess, okay, it's a dossier, and that's an dossier, it's an issue, that's an issue, it's an issue, that's a jurisprudence,

it's what? It's the decisions in the past. In fact, they've already been by these judges that are to, to, to bring us decisions.

I think I'm I don't know In the phone For example I'm For example I'm I'm playing I'm

I'm playing The judge I'll let It's like he He will He will He will say Okay, that's

It's not Bough because of Tels of and that's my decision But there other people

Who can't use my dossier for plade their dossier and It's

Like when when you When you When you You're Furned You're Before to

give the So you So you So you So you'll know So you Okay

Okay, okay, okay. So, jurisprudence, it's, that's that's been made of this way. So, me, also, I have the right to do this way. Okay, I'm going to do this price. Yeah, I'm going to be able to this price.

Exactly. Perfect. I'm sorry. You know, this this is a motion, it's a violer in series. And he, he was he'd

had some of the sack in plastic when he finished to aggressed the person and he'd in Madame. In the Madame? In the Madame?

In the Madame? In the same signature? Yeah, it's a signature. It's anode. Yeah. So, he had been Condonairn, and the coroner

And the coroner you'll Wollestead to show you're trying, all the time, all the time, all the time, and that's always the same way to proceed. So, but he'd

be used? No, no. When he was reveye, he'd be able to the sack, and he'd all right, and he'd like,

it's... It's the... It's the... John? I'm not my name. But, you know, the coroner

does have a requequequeque to say, that's so that's so that's so that's sure that's the same person and to say

to say, and it's always the same signature. So technically if the person does a violence conjugale always in the same context,

he could try to get to be to make sure that's a point similar. Let's on, he was entangleded in a certain

fashion and he had attached his chiefering and a certain way, he could try to be to make up

for a way to make that's a okay. So, that's a guy that's a guy that's

defended you the sack of no, absolutely it's, it's been to be able to that,

I'm done, I'm sure, I'm it's all, I'm So, I see, I'm In those, I'd say, well,

I'm going to, Paul. Paul, it's like, it's like your job in time as well, oh, monsieur, you know,

at a moment to know, like, and then, like, you know, that's there's that you have

to be able to plastic, there's, you don't have at all the streets, you, it's, they wanted to,

he wanted, it's an affair of ego. You know, that you do say, well, it's sure that's

it's not me, he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not, It's a little there to say, yeah, but it's a bit difficult to say that's not you,

because it's exactly the same way to meet with, you know, you've got to find out of the same thing, it's the same thing. Yeah, it's a kind of move of, an other

of plus, it's cocky. That's it's important. Yeah, he'd really have his signature and be, the new the violer on sack, you know,

there's a lot, there's people who there's some people who there's some, it's, there's some people who there's, there are

We're going to learn in a new sense. Mm-hmm. There's other ways of light, but... Like, like the guy who decouper the people and he'd envoyed it

by the post, you know, it's not a matter that? Yeah, between other. But, you know, he's not

just decouper the people, he wanted to the world entire, he said to the world entire and it's not even,

it's so. It's awful. If that would have you said, would you say, yes to say, yeah, to say, yeah,

but I would have, it's my work, I think, but you're saying, but you're saying,

there's a out of my zone of capacity. In fact, it's out of my zone of capacity like I

have not done, I've done with someone of another. But you have wanted to have

this case, if he's he'd have been but you don't know because, because in

the case, where is you, you have these great people who

because, actually, they've done these things really very much like that's like that

you know, that's the that's the person who's that's the person who was saying, you know,

clearly, you're not a lot of you know, you'd say, hey, I could

not do that because I would be a for my life after. No,

it's really your time. You know, it's you're your

and you sometimes a team that. They've they had used, he had

He had tried a defense. He had tried the... Malady Mental. He had tried the Arctic 16, the defense of trouble mental. It's not... It's not...

It's not much. Like Guy Turcote. Yeah. The same affair. Oh, yeah, I think you're talking to... Yeah. Well, Guy Turchase,

he had been a acquitted. Yes, because, on the malady mental... The Courne has said, no, no, no, no, it's not, no, no, that's not...

The court that... The court that... The court of... They're... They've said, , they're a... ...you've got to be a error.

You've got to re-recommance time time. And then he has a period. Is it you think there there's a time there's there's a lot of

maybe in other country, we know, but with the judges? No, I think just that it's a cause that sometimes what they're

going to be in jury, it's really Mr. Madame all the world who is there. So, they can't interpretate the

malady mental of a way, perhaps that it's been quite that they've had been the most

directives or poor impede, because they technically they're receive, the judge, and they're they're going in a piece, and they're preen a decision together. It's a bit like a box of surprise.

Okay, so it's a few people, it's not just a person. Yeah, they're, they're 12. 12, in a member... Do you know, is it when there's a jury? Yeah. It's Mr. Madam Tremont. Mr. M. M. M. Toulogne. You could have to be...

You could have to be... I'm sorry. It's the Mr. Madame Tremont. If you're... It's allay to... You can't see... You can't have to... You can't have to...

...you understand, ala-a-a-to-a-to-you. the person who's who's occupies to do things all the I'm in the person that

that's around that's the she's she's like she she's like she's she'll that's like

there's a letter there's a question. Joanie you're trying to devole your consp

consp consp no no no I'm no I'm pose some questions

it's not not I'm not said it's not it's it's not it's not because I'm you're not

you're not It would. It could. It's really alleyatoir. There's really a lot. There would be saying to say, there are there's people in the States who are in the United

who are sacrifices. Oh, no, no. But oh, yeah, we're going to be asked questions. Yes, yes, I'm perhaps conspied. Bye.

No, but I'm not conspiled, I'm honestly, it's just there's a reason. There's no there's no there's just that.

You could be to be called to be in the jury tomorrow, no, I'm not not, because me, it's what, it's that I said, I think, there's a galic.

They're not going to be able to me, because I'm sure that I'm going to be able to. You're obliged to go, and plus? Oh, yeah? They're going to pay you? They're going to do. They're going to have some point that if, example, you're in the

same domain than the person, you know, they're not. In the fact, you're going to receive the letter, they're going to say, Madam, you're obliged to present at this date. You're like, I'm, I'm going to be jury. So, you can't go to be there technically and respond to questions if they're

if they say, is, is what you I think you know the presumption of innocence, and you say, no, absolutely not, they're all right, they're not put up, they're going to say, perfect, return to you, they're going to be money, and they're turning home, they're going to pay. Metons a case that these children have been made to sue. Is there not a matter of the jury?

There's a lot of people who are able to say, like, I'm going to be capable of doing, but, you know, there are who I'm saying, I'm a man of two children, and I'm want to, you know, and, you're not able to do this I'm just like, you know. I'm in semblance that I'd be able, and I'd ever, and I'd be defuncered. You know, like, my chien, it's all right.

Now, if they're called, like, they'll know, they'll know if they're not to tell you, well, you know, who, you know, who has been able to? I'm going to say, I'm saying, who, who you're trying? No, to who? No, no. Persu.

You know, you? You know, you know, someone? You know, you know, you know, you know, you? Perfect. Well, I'll retit all what I said. Justly, well, yeah, there's one of my

of my friends who's been called, I was having to do you I'm trying to I'm never sure before year that I'm doing

I'm afraid I'm afraid of course I'm sorry for the way but for the whole phone not an ticket no,

no, there's not you're not a jury for the ticket, and maybe, and maybe. And perhaps that you're going to

think I'm not that you're good. For the first I'm a memory of Mardt it's sure

it's a good memory, yeah, I'm That's that. I'm really not a good memory. And I think that I'm a little an issue too emotive, potentiallyly. Yeah.

I think that, sometimes when you're emotive, it can't have to have some of the reactions. Yeah, it's so. And then, sometimes the reactions have to get it for

for you know, even if you want to react your compo- We're going to do. We're going to say the words of the bibbe in the corridor, but, you know,

I think it's not that may be able to not in the same, not, sometimes it's always it's always, I just the words of the Bible, because sometimes I'm not content,

but, you know, there's what the most of the tabernacle? That's the word of the Bible. You don't know, in the room in a cell of course. Ah, because you can do you do have...

Ah! You part of the job. Ah! Well, I'm sorry. I'll start. I'd say, I'd say,

the tabarnack, Mr. Judge. Whoa! You know, it's just like, oh! You're part to have a job to do you're just

too, you can't. You're not, you'll be to lose your job, but, you know, they're, they're,

They're going to They're going to They're going to say, They've said, you've got to You've got to do You've got to do You know,

you have to you're going to You know, it's a problematic So, that's exactly. So, it's really that's really,

even if you're not content, like you're not you know, you're not going to you know, to get that to be able to

I'd have a I'd be able to but, but I'd I'd be really really really really good, and then you

come with your too cute, just full, oh, I'm, thank, thank you, thank you,

I'm going to feel there's my potential career of my potential career of a my point of course,

I'm thinking of I'm thinking of I'm just I'm just too point okay, okay, I'm sorry

I'm sorry, is you know do you view your life differently like you because you let's

say, probably that I'm in freens in the law without that I'd never knew

that I'd have not to do that. You know, is that you're concerned to do? Every time

that you do something that's you know, or someone who's to do you do you say? Yeah,

that I say, for a time, someone who texts on I'm like,

hey, but that we're saying, it's because, it's a because,

we're doing, because I'm trying that's even more than more, you know, imagine,

like I text on the volent and there's a police who went, you know, on the time you're doing on saying, you're on doing it's on doing it's like,

I think it's I'm trying to I'm sure, I'm sure that's sure that's when there's when there's not to charge,

sometimes I'm I'm going to I'm going to do that's not the right to do you know, but there sometimes it's a

little sapine in the auto is that I've had a little that's a car and I'm you've got a question to

have not the little sapin on your signboard? In which sense? It's a ticket of distraction on the volon. Well, yeah.

I'm going to. I'm sure. So, that's weird. If you're a cuttoe on you, a big cutoff, it's $200. But you're a sapine. Improcent.

The little sapine. Even the day and all these affairs, I've I've got to yesterday, it's totally calm. I've got to just

the day blan. And then, and then I said, you can't say, that's a poign. Yeah, and the people, It's like, well, but the sapine, you're like,

well, it's just trying, like, in the retrovisor, you're not the right. It's behind the retrovisor. He's just not that you panned in the retro, that. Okay. It's really fool. I don't know.

I mean, we're trying, that one of my clients to make sure it, and then, he said, well, I, I've put on a ticket of distraction to valance, I said, you know,

you had a telephone, he'd say, no, a sapine, it's like, and it's so that you're not, and I've seen, and I've done a cardiff in the chair. A gun. Impossible.

He's made parrined because of a sapine, sandbon. But how they've viewed the gun? Well, he, he trinning

there at the he trinning it, he had done his permit. When he had done his permit, we've remarked that there was a

mandat, and when he had a he had a car, and he had a gun. All right. All right.

Oh, so chien. Okay. There's you do you know, Rick, de ma'amme that we can't

say, oh, crashed byter. You can't do that? Ah, we? We can't

crash by the police could be done an ticket to crash by the car, I know, but it's

kind of too charred for a crash that. So, if it's a gorgotone, you have to

have you have to be in the whole of a part of the thing, so you know, so you

have you have to get your gorgototon in your house until you try to a bush

or something? You can can you chute there's just can't that's just a good

to have a little gorgotone. You can't do you. If you wanted just aroused the little little bit of the garden. The word gorgoton, the word gorgoton.

It's a little bit of that. Something that we've not been aborted that I'd quite quite is the impact on your relations

personal of your work. I think that it's it makes my my life more complicated,

I think because you know, I've, you know, I'm not, I'm trying a lot of

and I'm alert to a lot of things also necessarily the violence the violence conjugal and

the aggression and all the all of the things and I'm saying, yes I'm going to

get to get to get to it's always it's always in my so we're so I'm so we're not

so we're so that all together so I'm in a time you I'm doing

I've had put plenty of against a client on an Yeah. You know, you

didn't know that? Well, it's because it's not, because it's not if we're going to, it's like, I didn't know if you

want to talk about, if you were in talking about, okay. Well, yeah, it's full interesting if it doesn't get

at your question, we're there's no problem. Yeah, so, you know, I, want, my story, you know,

we can't, we can't say, we're saying, the good word for saying that, but it's, that's what

is coming, more, my baggage professional it's all together, it's really complicated.

You know, in this sense where I'm going to cut up with the people with people I'm not really

to, I'm in the people who are going to accept certain things, by example, level the tone or some, or some,

I, it's zero, it's not, it's not, it's not seen, of things, how the violence can

come to come to come back, or how all that's insta because of my life personal, I,

I, I'm, these mega red flag rapidly. So it's perhaps it's probably for that it's

difficult. Yeah. When you 've been this violence conjugated that, is that, you're so,

you were, you were already avocat? Yeah, it was about five,

six years, that you had said, the other time, the conference that, you had

really a honor to denounce to be a jean, because, because, you,

and what's what's, what's you've permitted to give the force to to the denounce

finally? I have the impression that I'm in I'm not maybe maybe you're maybe you're going to be

victim of something and I'm not I'm not like I'm not I'm not I'm a victim or whatever to go to

go to be to be that my colleagues think he me that they're that I'm not meant

I'm not I'm not he'd be a life and it's a car'd be a lot of the fact

he was even not capable to recognize that it was not correct what he had made, so at a moment a day,

I said, no, I can't live with this collar all the time because it's always, I'm always

to do you know, I'm going to I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, the day of my party, and the day of my

and it's, wow, yeah, and finally, well, he's played decoupable, he has finished by pleading

coupable, wow, yeah, yeah, he has finished by pleading and the people, and the

people, I'm not, the part that you had, it's really a pair irrational. It was really just I thought that the

people were going to visualize even when I had talked on the first on the radio social I said like I'm talking to, I'm talking about I'm talking about I'm talking about

if there's a if there's people if there's there's always there's always there's always there's always that you're doing

that's that you're that's just that you're still have always have to have some you know there's always there's always

people who will who will judge to do you do in the way. But it's a it's a lot, in my, you know, in my milieu,

the people who are going to do, you know, it's been able to it's able to be able to it's not too impacted negatively. It's a fool,

because, when you're a case of a crime, that clearly, even if you say that you're kind of probably

a little part of you know, that's like a little, like, you know, yeah, it's sure that I'm not going to

say, yeah, you're not, you I'm a bit, and it's, it's for that sometimes I'm talking

on the there's there's people, and there's some of the way to get to that, and it's really correct,

you know, in saying that I'm going to that's going to there also, you know, there's probably that they're going to be a

problem, and it can't be there. But it's sure that sometimes I look at the and I'm like, ah, you know, I think it's

I think it's it's awful. Sometimes I'm like, it's like, it's just that I'm like, I'm not too

in the emotion and that it it's apprant with the time. Yeah. Can't Can you do you

talk? Because okay I'm I think to come back that is really

like that you're in the sense, you will do you have a advocate of the defense?

But I think we were in a context that it was a

toxic that he realized not necessarily what he did not that but it's

just it really like it's really there there there's many

there There's a real deal. There's really many of women who are in the power and that's not. I don't know. But I think

the world, he's entorche, like that. I think when it's a person, the other other side,

realize not necessarily your job, or no, and my ex sometimes, they'd be conditioned I, I think,

the fact that I'd have not putte plenty of long time, you'd say, she'd say, ah,

she'd be, she'd say, I'd be doing to say, no, she'd be able to say, and even,

there, one, there, a voice, At a moment of a moment of the Woisin' they were trying to

talk to they've been to get ridden because he made just like, you've got got my life, if that's a

that, my contract, if that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, then I said, okay,

I'm just retire the point, I'm just to get to a point where I'm, well,

I'm, you know, it's me who's not who's in being, I'm trying to get to gash

his life. You know, we're well, we're not, and there, they, to act

like that, they're going to they're going to they're going to they're going to

because he's too conditioned. Um, um, he had pleaded culpable, you're

represented by the state, yeah, the procurer, but that's totally because there's there's person

in Montreal who could bring my dossier, because they know, they have done there's been

there's there's been to find out of the jurors of the exterior who they were, right,

right. Even, at, at the at the long-eye but we could not because

we had, we had we had a we had a question, we had already pleaded before he could not get

to put up a judge of more than Gatino a little bit, it's a good, the gang the gang

with you work, they'd be so much that's a content when you get a

in plus, I was sure we had to go ahead to say, I'm not that he'd play the process

I'm sorry he's, he's been, with an advocate of the defense scallic. I've heard the

morning. I'm the weekend the inquestor my... because I'm made made by audio,

the declaration and he said, he's like, I'm going to listen to do you. I'm going to the declaration

and then I'm stressed, I'm like, oh my God. There's a idea that I have been on the

right, I'm remember, I'm back, I'm going to be five, the process to come out of five minutes

the court of and I'm saying he'd be probably, he'd be probably, you he'd be able to say,

that's not you to be I have no need to be there. I've never I've been finally on you know, there's there

that's there that he had negotiated because there were there were plenty plenty, plenty, plenty, plenty, plenty of chief

and then finally he's put it by a car. And then you have played to do you get to do

back on sexual. Yeah, tabarnack. Yeah, it's for that's for that that's for

that I'm there's for that there's, there of that, there there was way of way of there's all people,

you know, that because you're in couple, you can force your family to have to have

some when it's non, it's not, and if your your wife doesn't, it's not

because you're not because you can't, you know, there was voe there was stranglement, there had agressions

sexual, there had in the justice, there had plenty of stuff. But how you do you

say, hey, I accept, like, you've accepted, but you could you say, hey,

no, I, I'm not, I'm, I'd could say, no, I've been

to say, no, I'm, But, you know, it's just, at least he reconnoisse, according to, you know, for me, I wanted to be

that it's not, if it's been, that's not, I mean, I said, well, you know, his own law, you know,

that's, it's a lot of, no, no, it's not, a good sense, you know, that's, you know,

he's, you know, he's, he's a vogue, um, more, but you know, but, you know,

but, you know, I thought, it's, you know, I'm, And it's like, like, and it's like, that I'm in a position, and it's so that I do,

sometimes I'm in the position of these victims, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm think it's like, he's like, I'm not, you know, that's what I'm

not, like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm all, you know, that's why, when you know, the sentiment of justice, I'm able to make a bit of the

bar, because, I was in my auto, and I was , I'm, like, I'm, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not,

it's, it's, no bon sense. The police is arrived. I was there. They were they've seen

the same. I'm going to do you know, not the way to do you have been in no, they're not, they're

not used even if they've had been there's been there's not I'm going to it's like it for me,

it's important it's an element that, so I'm okay it's both like if he he's like he's like he

he's just that my story so much that my story's that he's he's really also in your dossier

if, if, let's if, let's there's a new rule, the new

thing is out of the doce criminal of your partner if you had some doctor, you say, you can't

say that you can't know that, so that's for that's for that's that's more important

to denounce because even if you say ah, well, it's not even if it doesn't

even if it's going to be in the case, it's you can't know what's interesting

because you let's say if, let's let's say, let's say, let's say, Plumitif. In the form, the plumeitif,

is a computer to play the to play the people, and you can't take the name of the people, yeah,

you can go to know, you can go to do you know, to put up to tap the name of someone, and you have access

to... You have to be absolutely, you can't do it's not to do you know, it's on any part of

any of any any of which when the place, you know, you can't be that you talk, you take the name of

the person and you have you do you get to there's a grand film, no, there's plenty of the

and usually there's person in the part of their advocates. And then, even, de people, I'm trying to tap all right, all right. I'm trying to tap all. I'm talking, I'm doing, I'm talking to tell you, everyone, yeah, but with the new law, you know, before us, you know, it's true before you're doing, they'll go to death. It's going to mind, you imagine, you know, it's a problem that we've got to to have the information, they're going to see all the appell 9-1

that's a when they've called a year to be able to a new one at this time, there's been there's been

there's a question, at this they've got to have been to have been an address, because you know,

even there a time, I've done, you know, but in fact, it's not me that's not my police, it's

my name, because I'm to say, if he's not from here if he's not to come to he's just

heard to talk, to-to-to-to-tock at my port, and it's there's everyone in a piece. Technically,

there's not an accusation for that. But if you demand via the formulae, you go to see,

you go to see, the police is intervened at a date. That's in the new formulae

that's, and that's access to to show to show. It's still a way,

so it's not a place, but technically it's not that's certainly, you're

to fill the formular, you'll invite to a post of police or the point to the

platform, and after that they will transmit the information via a

organism. Okay, so that's for to know if the person that you're in a case. Okay, so it's not super easy, it's not like, I'm going on the site, I've written

your name. No, it's not not like that. Okay, okay. It's not going to be able to have to be a formular, but you know, the

whole, we'll be able to have access to exactly. Exactly. The story of, let's we're going to intervene for the VC.

That's, it's good, that that's not, that's it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's it's not even, you're not

you're saying, We said, yeah, we've intervened six times to this address that, because there had the AVC, and there had these appell of the and there's a piece, and so, and see.

Perfect. It's a few, that's a very good new thing. So, you can be able to put your choice after that,

and, you know, it's, it's it was so, even when we were separated, he cried by the police, tell them, everything is good,

I said, like, no, yeah, he's not good, like, it's not good, like, bring these valise,

and he toss, is, is what's the sentence? It's a don and a a deal of a

a deal of a don't? A good. No, but in the sense it's the fun, but he's not

not, he's not I can't not too give a non-pub so I can not say,

I can't I'm not so I'm not so I'm not from he's not he's not he's not

so I'm so it's back, so it's correct. I'm just he returned to show you You can't understand.

He'd do you return to his house? Yeah, and he can't be, you know, there's a dossier criminal here now. Okay. Good chance for coming after, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So, what's his name? I can't tell you. I can't tell you, but, you know, he's kind of

even coming here, and, you know, I said, look, if there's some, he can do have done a, a house for family. Oh, it's you. Yeah, so. Yeah, so. When I said, it's, you know, I guess it's just, I'd have wanted.

No, no, I had said a good amount. Of memory, it's $2,500, and I had to ask to someone that I'd know that I'm that's what the resources for

women who have been in so there's there's a there was a delay to do you know and to help

to help you to help you have to make a suive for the people people who have perhaps

to understand a bit more the consentment yeah there's there's like that but

at the but at least you have been I'm sure I'm I'm sure that you

see that that's that you're For me, when the When the leave I'm like,

oh, my story my story is crue, you know, well, that's sure. Yeah. Well,

I'm very content also to have made that over me but it's sure that's always there, you know,

in plus, with my formation, and there's always that that's always that's a clear that

has been evident. Oh, no, it's important. Is it is an 15 minutes for our

for our Patreon? We have no problem. We have any questions on the cloture and

all. I just I'll just say to to my guy of I'm a I'm a little I'm a

at a little bit of I'm gonna I'm sorry I'm like he's like I'm like you're like I'm sure we're gonna

we're like a okay Powell we're writing that on the social for to get to well

yeah in place in plus it's it's really because the people he's he's like

I'm like I'm you're like I'm train. It's very normal that you've seen over. Is there any of the stuff that'd ever be plagued in description? On profite for, I don't know,

like, I don't know, like, just like, I'm going to see, on Instagram. I'm more Instagram, vip. com, and on TikTok, you'd add one, because if someone had volleed my name. Perfect. But if they want to me follow, go, let me see.

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