Sexe Oral - Le sexe de Jean-Thomas Jobin

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Les propos exprimés dans ce podcast relèvent d’expériences et d’opinions personnelles dans un but de divertissement et ne substituent pas les conseils d’un.e sexologue ou autre professionnel de la santé. Cette semaine sur le podcast, on reçoit l'humoriste et partenaire de Big Brother de Lysandre, Jean-Thomas Jobin. Il est venu nous parler de sa vie sexuelle. Pour suivre Jean-Thomas: https://www.instagram.com/jean_thomas_jobin/ Le podcast est présenté par Éros et Compagnie Utiliser le code promo : SexeOral pour 15% de rabais https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/ Les jouets dont les filles parlent: https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/page/podcast Le podcast est présenté par Oxio. Pour plus d'informations: https://oxio.ca/ Code promo pour essayer Oxio gratuitement pendant un mois: SEXEORAL ---- Pour collaborations: [e-mail] Pour toutes questions: [e-mail] Pour suivre les filles sur Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sexeoralpodcast Pour contacter les filles directement, écrivez-nous sur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexeoral.podcast/

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Yes, your... My shirt... My shirt went out of style. Or was understated. I made a Mr Bean of myself just before we started the episode. I was talking to Lisanne, we catch up. Yes. Catch up, mustard. Very funny.

That should be the extract. Catch up, mustard, it was so funny. People are stuck at home right now. We were talking about the sofa, and there was like a small branch or a leaf of plant that was hanging, and I hung it like that. I put the sapling and the plant on me. So I'm not like a naked Aligian man. I'm all wet, but you know, I'm not in the evening either. I understand that these are women who give me very hot, very, very hot. But that's not why I'm all wet, but I'm not sweaty either. I understand that these are women who give me very hot. Very, very hot.

But that's not why I'm wet. I'm wet because I self-clad my sandals. I understand. Thank you for your short explanation of your nipple. Mine is never short. My sentences are never short. The concession, it doesn't seem to me. But I'm very happy to be there, but I still wanted to clarify that because I didn't want the sentences are ever short. I don't think so. But I'm very happy to be here, but I wanted to clarify that

because I didn't want people to say... Because, you know, I have a reputation for... for chewing when I eat spicy food. I didn't eat spicy food. And I'm very happy to see these beautiful ladies, but they don't make me hot. Well, it's not hot. In general, yes, but not specifically there,

physically, I didn't have a reaction to see you. Oh, yeah, okay. It's okay. I understand that we saw each other in a way that was more or less existent. Jean-Thomas, do you have anything to say to people who don't know your love story? We're old friends. Exactly. We're big brothers. The. We did Big Brother together. The main reason I'm here today, and it's not a disavowal of you at all,

is just that I was bored of my friend. I was like, oh, we never have the opportunity to see each other. I write to her, she doesn't answer me. There's a hook seen, she doesn't answer more. Not true! No, I know, it's a farce. No, but I was happy when she... I don't know who it was, but...

It was Joannie's idea. It was Joannie's idea, so thank you. But it's because I have a lot of... It's the strange way you're looking at me that attracts me. I understand. But you too. Yes, I understand. You too, but we're not there.

And now I want to know, you live together too, you know, how long did you live together? Six weeks. Six weeks before you quit the game. It's like not three days, seven years. But six weeks, 24 out of 24, it's like it was five years, almost. For real, yes. Yeah, but for real, there's something exponential in social connection. It seems like as long as we don't live it, we have trouble explaining it.

I don't know if it's a defect, you try to explain it to people and they're like, «It can't be that intense, how come you're so sold out afterwards?» At the same time, we're so sold out and it's been four years since we've seen each other. No, but it's a link that's there forever. It seems like there are things, there are references that we can remember, that are very specific, that no one else can remember. And, you know, since there is no...

there is nothing for us to... to be distracted from the outside, we have to focus, we don't have internet, we don't know what's going on outside. So interpersonal relationships are like... everything is amplified. The proof came out of the blue with a child. ce qui se passe avec ça. Les relations interpersonnelles sont comme... Tout est amplifié, la preuve est sortie de là avec un enfant. Ouais. Non mais c'est quand même...

C'est fou que ton... Pour toi, ça a changé le parcours de ta vie complètement. On peut le dire. Puis j'ai tellement eu de fun avec Lisanne, même si à un moment donné, on a pris des trajectoires opposées, mais on s'entendait... On s'est toujours bien entendu. even if at some point we took opposite trajectories. But we always got along, of course. We had a slightly more difficult conversation towards the end after I decided it was enough for you.

But in the sense that... You were the one who decided... Well, no, yes, but you know, in fact, she had initiated the project before to eliminate me, and I knew it. So from the moment when the person that you trust, because I had a lot of trust in her, well, I know that she was thinking about it in her head,

and she was right to think about it. I've always said to a confessional, she's right to want to get out, but I can't just wait to be the victim. So, counterattack at that time. Counterattack is... It sounds very peaceful. I carry the Chinese ants with leaves. I never want to hurt myself.

So, counterattack is in the strategy. The thing is, we went home the first day with Brother, and it was already obvious that it was kind of like, I was the one who won. I was like, we can wake up now up instead of all these little soldiers' cries, and one after the other, and we're all going to do what Jean Thomas wants us to do? Someone has to take the... So it's you who... But they all decided to follow Jean Thomas, and who won? Jean Thomas!

As long as they're thick! No, but you know, I think you were right on your YouTube. For me, Lisanne was the most dangerous player in the house because she was good in all spheres. Socially, everyone liked her, she was nice to company, she was good at the challenges, she understood the strategy. She's a girl who is still self-aware. She had all the assets to win. I love you. I love you too.

Thank you for the interview. But Lisanne is a girl, and at home, I used to say it sometimes to the confessional, but I thought about it a lot. I still think about it. For me, she's an extremely intelligent girl. And I was happy to see that I think even Big Brother helped her to increase his confidence in being able to achieve his level of skills, very broad in life, but she's really a super intelligent girl. I don't know her enough, I'm convinced you're extremely brilliant too. I have a good emotional intelligence.

Yeah, well, I also think that emotional intelligence is maybe not quite valued, but it's extremely important. My father, who was like a guy who jumped two or three years at school, he was a champion of failure, he was a Canadian junior champion at the failures, he was going to be a world champion. So it was really like a brain. And my mother, she didn't really trust her intelligence. She said, I just have an emotional intelligence, but still, it's nothing concrete. And my father kept saying to my mother, you're smarter than me, but you don't realize it. And your intelligence serves you more in the life that my cerebral intelligence serves me.

I think emotional intelligence is very important. So, in the end, you're smarter than Lisa. So, you're not as intelligent as Lisa. You're more intelligent than Lisa. You're completing yourself. Yes, we're really completing ourselves. I want to know, before starting with you, I want to know, since you know each other a lot, and we're in a context of sexuality,

I want to know, after Big Brother, let's say, knowing Big Brother, how would you describe Jean Thomas in his sexuality, according to you? You haven't talked about it, but according to what you've seen, yes, you've talked about it! Yes, I think that when the cameras... everything that's not in the editing, it's all the times we talked about ass.

Oh! OK, so he too! There are so many parts, we don't give a fuck, that it's sure that these conversations, the conversations in the living room, it ends up popping. So yes, we have... There are a lot of things I told you, that I had already told in podcasts.

But you know... About the telephone button thing, I learned it in Big Brother's house. I hadn't heard it before that. Because he's not a fan of eavesdroppers. Well, no, but a lot of respect for Mike. For Mike. Yeah, so, no, indeed.

Well, we can start with that. Well, hey, people who don't know the story, can we go there? We can absolutely go there. I think it's the people's expectations, in fact. Yeah. That's my expectations. But maybe people will be disappointed because they'll say, we would have liked to have heard about other things and all that.

But if there's a place where it would be will be disappointed because they'll say, we would have liked to talk about other things and all that. But if there is a place where it would be good to talk about it, I think it's here. We can empty the subject. Let's do it. Without making metaphors. You have the wrong look. Emptying the subject was not a sexual metaphor.

Yes, yes. You're really sulky about sexual metaphors. You have your reputation. You've been training your reputation for a long time. Are you looking for sexual symbols? I don't know what you're thinking right now. Louis told me, You're not going to talk about sexual metaphor. You have your reputation. You've been training your reputation for a long time. You're looking for the sexual symbols. I don't know what you're talking about. Louis told me...

I was listening to his phone number. He told me, since Louis is preparing for the... He knows very well. He said, you're going to have some trouble, but you'll see, you have to read between the lines. He's very... He gave me the full briefing, and I was like, we're going to go one day at a time. But now I understand everything. Now I follow you.

Perfect. Okay, let's start with your date. No, but where do you want to start? I want to know what the story is, but after that I want to know where it starts. You know, your youth trauma, why did you end up in the bathroom? It's not a youth trauma. It happened, I think. It's true that it could look like a youth drama.

No, it wasn't a project on my part, but my first orgasm in my life was... I can't believe I'm telling this again, but too bad. I'll try to go into areas that I haven't told, but at the same time, that's my story. But I was listening to TV. We had a staircase in Colimaçon, at my parents' place. And it was a staircase in Colimaçon, with open air, meaning there was no back splash of walking. I understand.

So I was listening to TV, with a spoon with the walking. It's like, let's say, the table here, I crushed my penis, but not in a sexual object. I just sat there, eating with the walk, and I listened to the TV. I listened to sports. I was nine years old. But I didn't sit there to sign a walk. I just sat there because I was well there.

And at some point, when I was changing positions while listening to TV, I felt a sensation of pleasure, and it was disconcerting, sensory, it was pleasant, but for me, I wasn't like, ah, I'm excited, I'm signing a little, I want to provoke the orgasm. I didn't even know what an orgasm was. So I just moved because I was changing positions. And I had an orgasm, and I didn't know that was it. There was no sperm because I was too young. I think I wasn't yet in my hormonal or pre-teen progression. I didn't have the possibility to ejaculate yet.

But I had the possibility to have an orgasm. But when I experienced that sensation, I didn't know what it was. I didn't know it was sexuality. But I was always in the Colimaçon staircase. Because I had found the cell phone. So I was always in the Colimaçon stairs. To listen to TV, I never used sofas. I was always in the Colimaçon stairs.

And I knew how to provoke it. I knew that by moving the basin, the penis crad crushed on the staircase, it would provoke me orgasms, but I was able to have about fifteen. He never had sperm, but I was never exhausted because the penis was broken. He's not tired, he's happy, he gets crushed, so there's nothing to do. So he was subjecting himself. So that, I... And then, at some point,

at some point, I understood, I don't know at what age, but I understood later that it was sexuality. And then, I became more aware of that. So... When... At some point, I started to see... Maybe I was 11 at that time. Maybe at that moment, I was visualizing things. I knew it was a sexual sensation, so I was making scenarios in my head.

So I didn't want to be in front of the TV, I wanted to be in my room because I wanted to be in a context of relaxation for my visualizations or my imagination, to be transposed in a sexual situation that existed to me. So there, I was looking for an equivalent, but I didn't want to build a small staircase. I'm not enough of a monusier or a webanist to make a small staircase with steps for the years in my room. One of my parents would have not understood anything. I went to the museum, to the webinar, to do a little staircase with steps for the last few years in my room. One of my parents would not have understood anything. They would say, why do you have a little staircase of four steps? So I realized that with telephone sticks, a good thick book, I could recreate the sensation, that is, I crushed my... I'm saying this because I'm always dressed when I do this,

or even if I do it today, I can dress it up. I don't need to be in direct contact. In fact, I prefer to be dressed because I don't want my penis to be stuck on a staircase mast, directly on the skin of the I recreated the age where, in my opinion, if there's a good God, he'll send you sperm so you can understand what he's doing for your child. So then he started to have, eventually, sperm. So then I understood, it was clear to me that it was an ejaculation. But the fact that I can still do it today, it is because I discovered my sexuality like that.

Sometimes I talked to friends about it, and even after I talked to them, there are guys who want to try it because it intrigues them because it's an orgasm that is really different from the normal orgasm linked to an erection. That is to say that it is a softer, more distributed orgasm. I prefer this orgasm. I think I have the equivalent of the clitoral orgasm. I don't know what the feeling you're living is, but I have the impression that it looks like that. I have access to another orgasm, and if I could click and trans at the moment of a sexual relationship, that the orgasm that I could feel, if it could be the other, I would switch.

Oh, yeah! Because he's really more fun, he's like more... It looks like he's going through my body. There's something softer, more sensorial, which is less in discharge, and then... It's like... I feel a lot of sensation, and it's really soft, it's really good and it's fun. But I think the guys who try to recreate it, because I talked about it with a sexologist, because I consulted a sexologist, not just about that, but I find it important.

It was a sexologist-psychologist, so it was really multifaceted in my life as a consultation, but I had talked about that. She explained to me, and I also read about that, that the fact that it didn't start with a sexual association for me, because I listened to boating hockey on TV while I was in the stairs, it makes sure that I can recreate that. Because for me, it's not... I can just put myself in the context of relaxing, and the association that is made, makes sure that... I'm not in the mode of erection.

Whereas a guy now, on that day, who wants to try it, he, the association of excitement comes with an erection. So sometimes there are guys who tell me, I tried and then I tried to move like you on a bed. And he says, but I got stuck and it didn't work anymore. So it was like a normal orgasm or it was... He was like unable to crush it because he was in an erection. But I never, since in my head I know how to do it, I know what the mechanics are,

well, I don't tend to have an erection during because I'm in a state of relaxation and I know what's going to happen. comment le faire, je sais c'est quoi la mécanique, ben j'ai pas tendance à avoir une érection pendant parce que je suis en mode détente, je le sais ce qui va arriver, j'ai envie que ça arrive parce que je le sais que l'orgasme est le fun. Donc, disande elle sait déjà mais elle est traumatisée pareil. Je suis pas traumatisée, je suis lubrifiée. Oui, non, je suis intéressée à... mettons là, fait que t'es chez vous say you're at home right now, at this day. Are there not many telephone buttons anymore? That's true. I get sent telephone buttons in photos, often on my Facebook fan page. Because I said that in some regions, there are telephone buttons that are too thin. Because I'm from Quebec. I said that in some regions, there are too thin telephone buttons.

Because I'm from Quebec. So the button in Quebec and Montreal are good buttons, big chunks. So that's the fun. But when they're too thin, strangely, when the book is too thin, there's a certain level of unbalance so that the juggling is more efficient. If I set myself up, let's say I lay down on this table, and I juggle myself, I would succeed.

So you would be in full belly with the boot under your... The boot would be between you and the table. Exactly. You're going to sleep? You can't just stand up, the penis on the table and the boot. My technique, stop judging me, you're hurting me. No, it's not a judgment, it's a advice. But actually, I wouldn't speak in his back because he talked about it in a podcast,

Just To Buy My Love, the dancer of the New Orleans. When he heard me talk about it, he said to me, I'm also capable. Just to Buy your question, I kept some good big books. Are they hidden? Let's go back home and we'll see them. I think they're hidden. They're hidden, but you know, it's not...

Yeah, it's... I think at the moment, I think it's a nice big book on the history of Canadians. Oh my God. There are really fun pages on Maurice Richard. It's very exciting for the pianist. Have you ever done that in front of a partner? Yes.

Ah, really? Yes, sometimes, but once it was a bet. I lost a bet against my first blonde. She didn't know yet that it was my technique. We bet on a Stanley Cup final. We predicted two different teams to win. We said the one who loses, will be the one to face the other. But I didn't know that was my technique.

So she won the bet. So I sat down on a bench, she didn't understand anything. I was dressed, I was moving. She said, what are you doing? I said, you'll see. She was like, that's why you're teasing me. But then, as I was at the stadium where I had dressed, I moved, and then Ari said, what are you doing? I said, you'll see. You're like, that's why you're messing with me. But then, as I had had a sperm post-exhalation,

I was able to show her the proof, and I did an orgasm. But what made me laugh was that it can be orgasms. You know, I can roughly not make sound if necessary, because as I said, it's softer. It's not an orgasm. I don't need it to be vocal. I don't need to be like, oh yes, magnificent! Because in general, guys often say magnificent in Ejaculate.

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while there's something going on and you have an opportunity that doesn't show up? No, not in public, but I remember that in my vacation camp in New Hampshire, in Camariss, it's good because it's a camp in the United States so no one will be able to make the connection, but I remember that I often went to a small building because I didn't want to do that because there were dormitories with 30 people, Donc là j'étais comme, ouais, là tu sais, positionner un livre, ils m'ont fait, qu'est-ce que tu fais? Pourquoi tu t'installes sur un gros livre? Fait que j'allais dans un... en fait, j'étais capable, tu sais, quand je voulais pas traîner de livre, aller dans When I couldn't sleep, I went to a room where I knew there was no one.

I put my two handles on the floor, and I put them under me, but I moved over them. I wasn't on my back, I crushed my two handles. It wasn't very comfortable, I was looking forward to finishing. At least you found some good plans. Yes, I found some good plans. It's already happened once or twice that girls wanted me to try it on their fangs. I would like to integrate that into an essay we would do. It's exciting to see what it can give. And then, it's a disaster.

For real, the femur isn't wide enough. Or the knee. So I had the taste of laughter from one, her too. I was like, I'm not in there. I don't need to be in there. When I talk about it, I'm not talking about orifice. I'm not in a sexual mindset. And it's like... it's too narrow as a bone.

Oh my God, it's crazy that you're in it. That was one of my questions. I wanted to know if you talked about it in your previous relationships. Because it took how long? Did you have an association with that, to break that when you had your first orgasms with a real person? Did you have difficulty? I think it did, and it's something I talked about with the sexologist in all the things I wanted to talk about,

from a psychological point of view and in my intimacy. But I think there have been stages in my life where it was a little bit of a nuisance to my genitalia in erection. Precisely because I think that unconsciously, the orgasm I wanted was the other. I'm not saying I don't like the common orgasm. It's standard. I find it fun. But I find it less fun than the other. And it was as if, I think unconsciously, my penis was saying to itself, yeah, you're approaching something, but you'd rather like the other. So I could maybe lose my erection.

I'm not saying it's just for that. It's not tangible. It's about knowing in psychology, when it's part of the unconscious, what makes sure that, yes, it's... I had to try to... I had to... I already talked about it in a podcast where you talk about masturbation. Certain deprogrammations to help with sexuality with someone.

Well, one year I kind of stopped doing that completely because I had the impression that if I continued, the association would remain present in my head. Now I'm able to cut it. That is to say, I can... I don't masturbate too often, but I can do both ways. But it's not the same type of masturbation. I mean, if it's an erection masturbation,

it comes a little more with a visualization of excitation, while when it's the crushing, let's call it the crushing, it comes more with relaxation, with sweetness, as if my visualization will be a little more in the sweetness and the comfortable side and tender, let's say, in tenderness. And the other is perhaps a little more... animal, in other words, more... you have a more intense thought, let's say.

So it's not the same mindset. Because when you were masturbating, and when you had your orgasm, you were in an element of relaxation, you were in your living room, and then you were with your family. Whatever. I think it's really... My family wasn't in the room. They were in the room. You were on TV.

You were in a house. They told you you didn't have a job, you had nothing to stress. You were at home, you were watching TV. You were in a moment of relaxation. So maybe that's why you associated that. It's as simple as that. And your orgasm, the fact that you have misery, if we look wider,

all people have a way to masturbate easier, due to our first way. My ex was like that. And he had misery with me, who is not the same. So everyone has to... Did you have trouble moving your pelvis in that axis? No, I was not serious. So it was more difficult.

So, everyone has this thing, and you have to deprogram everything. But when you turn it on, the first way you had your orgasm, it's always better, it's always easier. Because it's, it looks like that's your first link. So, it looks like it's stronger too. So, it's normal. And... You know, it happened that some guys wrote to me on my social media after I told them about it

to say, hey, I thought I was alone, or I thought I had a problem. But I think that two or three sexologists, because I have friends, our two sexologists friends with whom I spoke about this. In their class, I think it's like less than 1% of the guys who can do this, but often, most of them know that their first orgasm is like that. Someone who can do it by having known his first orgasm linked to an erection,

there is misery to recreate it afterwards. pretty isolated life, I would say. I don't date much. I think I'm in love with someone who is not available, so nothing happens, so there's no... or it's not reciprocal, anyway, at least not reciprocal. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think I'm in love with someone who is not available, so nothing happens, so there's no... Or it's not reciprocal, at least not reciprocal.

And it's not often in my life that I've been in love. I think it's the third time. And since it hasn't happened to me often, I think my heart has trouble letting it go, because it's maybe afraid that it won't come back. Unconsciously, I have the... I think the reflex is, hey, I don't want to let go of that feeling. It's been a long time since I've lived it, and I live it.

At the same time, I live it internally, because there's no reciprocity. So it stays very inside. I live it with myself. It doesn't come... There was a part where I found it difficult, but now I feel like it's still what I feel, I still feel in love, but it's not just a pain association. It's as if my heart doesn't want to let go,

because I think it hasn't lived it often. And now I live it. It's not reciprocal. But it's as if I feel it the same way. I don't know if you understand what I mean. Oh yeah, I understand. You can't control that. Even if you say, I want to let him go, if he's still there, he's there. I think it's... I have a very... I don't have an official diagnosis in relation to the spectrum,

but a lot of people tell me, yeah, you're that, and I read books and I'm like, yeah, it looks a lot like me without having an official test. But in what I read, compared to what I think I would potentially be in the spectrum, You know, I... We're talking about autism here. Well, a form of autism. Duct. Maybe a duct. Duct, potentially.

But I have trouble with the term, because the term sounds like a windmill, whereas it comes with a lot of problems, a lot of flaws. But if you say, I'm talented, it sounds like I'm good. Yes, you have strengths, but you have so many flaws, so many gaps. In short, all that to say that, let's say I was talented, let's say. I'm not an official hypnotist, but I've read a lot and I think there's a lot of stuff that I think. But one of the traits of talent is when you love, you really love. And what you love, you're passionate. And I've always been the same. Survivor, Big Brother, I'm a big fan of that.

I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed with sport, humor. What I like, I eat a lot of it. It's an exaggerated limit. And I think I'm the same romantically too. I don't like it often. I can like it friendly, be very attached to people, but the feeling of love, it happened to me three times. I'm 49, so it transposes also romantically.

And when I like, I really like a lot, and it's long before it disappears. So, I think that's what I'm living right now. That is to say that it no longer comes with pain. It's not something that makes me cry. But the feeling is still there, but it doesn't come with sadness. There's a bit that it was, but I don't see that person, I know it's not that bad, but that's it. So you're able to stay in love with someone even if you know that... Well, it's really not rational, actually. I know. I would like to make that click and it disappears, but I can't.

So I know it will disappear, it will take its time, and it's less intense. And already that the association sadness has faded out. But I think that in the future the rest will fade out, especially if I don't see the person and I don't talk to them. It will happen, but at the moment it's still there because I think that's it. As I said, unconsciously, my heart doesn't want to let go because maybe it won't happen again. That person is Lisanne. I came here for that.

Imagine! Since you're in it, it makes me feel a little... Imagine! Yeah, and I'm a little bit of a flirting girl when you're waiting for it. Yeah, we're in it. Hey, that person isn't available. I'm talking to the Big Brother to find love. Wink, wink, wink.

No, maybe that's it. Imagine I came here and we said, wait, I haven't seen her in four years. She might understand that when I say that even if I don't see her, she's not available, there's no reciprocity, she'll turn it on. No, I like it. I would be really blind. Or you would really hide your game.

No, no, no. So, that's it. But out of the three of you, have you ever been in a relationship? What do you mean by that? Or have you never been in a relationship? Yes, so I've been in a relationship. My longest relationship... My first love, actually...

We were together, let's say, a year and a half, but after that, five and a half years of not knowing each other. But for me, it's seven years. But we were like best friends for five and a half years. Because the girl traveled a lot, she looked for her, she didn't look good in her skin. And we're still very close. We're going to Toronto together tomorrow. We're still very, very close friends. We're going to have a show. Well, why do I say that? It's hard to go to Toronto without the arms of a game. Well, certainly. Why do I say that?

I don't know, do what you want. It's true. But so... For me, it's a seven-year relationship. I was in love during that time. But she... It was more... The 5 and a half of Pochler, I adapted to the fact that

she traveled a lot, she wasn't sure what she wanted, she wasn't sure if she liked it enough to be in a relationship and all that. So it's like I wanted to have it at all costs. That is to say that we were friends before and there was affection. It wasn't just that we slept together.

We got along well and I tried to be there for her. And vice versa, it was also for me. But I lived it as a relationship of seven years. But it wasn't really seven years. Do you agree? Yes. Moi je l'ai vécu comme une relation de sept ans. Mais c'était pas concrètement sept ans. Est-ce que tu comprends? Oui. C'est ça, c'est ça. Tu repenses ça?

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You're also a Gemini, aren't you? Oh, that's it. That's why it's been four years that we're in love and she's making me... She's not saying it, but she's doing some feet-threading right now. She has a foot that she loves. No, but it's because right now I have a child in charge, so we're going to fix that. That's it. When he's going to be the oldest.

Is Claude going to be able to invite surprises so that can do a bit of damage control compared to all that? You're kidding, but there are sides of you, it seems. Do you have a good nose? Yes, a good nose for his age, I could say. But so... Yeah, that's it. And I... You know, I like to talk about that,

because maybe it can reflect for some guys or some girls. My first sexual experience was when I was in love, the more I desired the girl, my friend, my blonde at the time. And I think that at some point, it's something that popped up in therapy, because sometimes you try to understand certain mechanisms because at one point, in my relationship to intimacy, it's as if the first two times when I had love problems in my life, I was hurt, but everyone is hurt, but I was hurt because I was really in love and it hurt me when it stopped. I think after that, I was running away and I had difficulty. I think I was afraid.

I'm someone very good all alone. I'm going somewhere with that, I assure you. I'm very good with myself all alone in life. So for me, if I'm in love, it's to make my life better. I don't need the other person's look to love, it's to make my life better. I don't need to look at the other person to love me, because I have a lot of flaws, I have tons of flaws. But overall, I still love myself enough, you know? So I'm fine with all that, and I have a lonely side. But the fact that...

the... for me, it was very fushional. That is to say, the more I loved, the more I desired. The fact that... For me, it was very fushional. The more I liked, the more I desired. And since it ended with pain, I was like, as long as I have as much pain, I don't like living anything. So after that, if I had friends in Mente, let's say, it's like I was more functional sexually in a relationship where I'm not in love. And if I felt that I was starting to fall in love, there's something in me that desexualized the relationship.

Because I think that when I was younger, the more I was in love, the more I desired. And then I was in pain afterwards, and I was like, I don't want to live that again. So I came across a self-protection pattern, I think. I mean, I don't want to complicate my life. Yes, I want to live a little bit of intimacy and complicity with a friend who is in love with respect, and kindness, and sweetness, and we don't bullshit each other, we tell each other things. But at one point, I was like, OK, I have to think about why, at one point,

if I feel that I'm really comfortable with a girl in her relax, and that I'm potentially more in love, or that I could fall in love, it's as if there was something that was a little desexualized, like I was too relaxed with a girl, and then I think that my mechanism is, OK, now it's more sexual because it's going to become like it was before, the times I was sick, that is to say that the more I was in love, the more I desired. mal, c'est-à-dire que plus j'étais en amour, plus je désirais. Là, quand ça se terminait, j'étais comme une locumène, mais j'étais jeune aussi, on a tous des peines d'amour, mais moi,

j'étais comme, OK, mais si c'est pour me refaire ça. Là, je pense qu'inconsciemment, il y a beaucoup d'inconscient dans l'intimité et la sexualité, je pense qu'inconsciemment, je voyais, quand je m'abandonnais dans une relation, je devenais vraiment confortable, je pouvais potentiellement I was really, really comfortable when I was abandoned in a relationship. I couldn't fall in love because I became more attached to the person. It's like the person had done nothing wrong. It's just in my head. It's like I didn't want her because I think I was afraid to fall into a pattern of love-desire and having a backache. So I went to look into that in therapy because I thought that...

At one point I was like, okay, but now it's really nice, but I'm getting old and I would like to have the possibility of falling back in love and living a functional intimacy by being in love because it's still fun when it happens. possibility de retomber en amour et de vivre une intimité fonctionnelle en étant amoureux parce que c'est quand même le fun quand ça arrive. Oui, j'ai eu mal, mais j'étais jeune, on vieillit, on avance, j'ai envie de revivre ça. Donc je voulais quand même enjaser pour essayer de comprendre certaines affaires. Des fois, juste le fait de comprendre, ça aide des fois à déprogrammer quelque chose. Sometimes just understanding helps to deprogram something. So I did a therapy.

There were a lot of things related to mourning. I lost my two parents. And there's still... So I consulted for a lot of things. My mourning, my intimacy. I think it's important to consult. You were a sexologist and psychologist, for whom I had a lot of respect. I think it helped me a lot. I understood certain things about myself. Is that...

But that's complicated. Even when you understand things, apply them afterwards. Because when... There's something that doesn't come naturally, because you say okay, but now I shouldn't fall into my patterns, I have to let myself go, but it's not like that. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. In the concrete, thinking about it can create a blockage. You're like, OK, I shouldn't fall into my patterns, I should let myself go, but letting yourself go is counter-intuitive because you're still thinking about what you shouldn't think about in order not to create your blockage.

So I didn't apply it concretely. I didn't experience the situation. Even if I say that I feel in love at the moment, I don't see that person. I can't confront them. I can't test myself, as they say. So if you're attached to a person, you have a little more erection and all that because're attracted to them and you associate it with something bad. But if you're not... if you're a one-nighter, you're capable of having...

I'm not a one-nighter, but you know, relationships of complicity, of friend-servant, you know... That's fine. It works much better for me because... So if we sleep with you and you sleep with him, you have to take it badly. Oh, is that true? Repeat that. If we sleep with you and you sleep with him, you have to take it badly. It means that you don't love us.

It means that you're a little bit problematic. You know, the girl is crazy in love and she sleeps with him. She's well-worn. No, but that's the point. You have to instantly say, ah! You're going to break my dog's ass. That is to say that for me, there can be affection in respect and complicity. And I never, for desire to be born with a girl,

the chemistry of conversation must be there. I'm not, you know, I've already said that to sex, not sex, sorry, to open couples, but you know, I'm not a... For me, it's a lot in the face that it happens. If the kiss and the breaks are not natural, fluid, it's going to be tough for me. I like to see the face, you like the conversation, it lights me up. No, but I have a side that conversations have led to that. I'm never the dancer of my life, I'm not able to, it doesn't excite me, let's say a girl I haven't talked to, that she undresses, and it's not something, you know, in the sense that...

There must be a connection. Yeah... There must be a connection. Yes, there must be a connection. So, to come back to what you said, I think that... There's like a border where if I'm in love, but I can be very attached to the person, respect her, have a chemistry with the border, or if I'm in love, but I can be very attached to the person, respect her, have a chemistry with the person,

and loving her in some way, maybe not being in love, but loving her, and there, it's less problematic. Ah, who can love you anyway, Liz. I'm not in love. Are you trying to think of our future? Well, no, but you know, we project ourselves, sometimes it's stronger than us, in another life.

Hey, but it's really interesting. I didn't know at all. And did your sexologist tell you that it had a whole relationship? But were there other things she saw in your childhood, that could have been related to that? Or is it really related to your love life? I think it's related to my injuries, which are not worse than others. But the fact that when I love, I really love a lot, when I was talking about, even in my passions in life, I think it reflects itself romantically.

So I think that when it stops, my love pains, I really live them extensively because I really loved her like crazy. But it's not... The person you're in love with right now, have you ever been with her? No. How long have you been in love with her? Four years. I'm going to do... No, but I'm wondering, because I think you would have told me about her at Big Brother.

No, I don't think so. Maybe. I'm wondering, because I think you would have told me about her at Big Brother. Can you? No, I don't think so. Maybe. Maybe I... It's really intriguing. It looks like you're rebelling against your love. In the sense that I... I don't think... I don't know if I was in love at the time. Maybe it was starting, but it could be that I had already told her. But it's not like someone I know... Does the person know that you...

Yes, she knows. Yeah, okay. So it's not a surprise if she can... She can watch the podcast and say, « Oh, your mother is really tired. » No, I don't mind. « Are you going to leave me, damn it? » I don't mind at all. The whole podcast is a declaration of love for her.

Hey, me being her could make me love so much by a man. I'm going to watch it. It would really have to be the other one, it would be really incredible. That said, I think she appreciates me a lot. I think she loves me a lot, but not in the same way that I love her. So I'm not able to be just friends. Not for the moment, maybe one day I will be. That's why there's a break and all that.

But that's not what I was talking about. You were probably the first to be flattered. And that's maybe when you said, I'll have to work hard to have her, my gentle man. I'm just afraid that she's in the comments. This dynamic has been installed since day one. Claude would be in the room, we would say the same things. Perfect.

Completely, 100%. Yes. She told me, if you had already told me, that you have a beautiful relationship. That's it. Very, very... Spiritual. What? Very spiritual.

Spiritual? I don't know. No, no. I wouldn't really say that. I found a word in my head that came out. She said, I'm going to tell him. Yeah. Well, in fact, I... Lisanne is very, very attached.

And I think... And I've already told him that. It's not a problem for you. I think I told him at home. No, not a problem for me. But I like sweetness in life. And Lisanne... I know you can be angry too, I know you have anger swings,

but she speaks softly in general. At home, it's soft. She doesn't arrive in a room screaming, she's kind, she asks questions, she listens, there's a conversation. It's like soft, it's enveloping. So you have a very pleasant stay at the hotel. Well, I think it's really you, Liz. We'll invite you more often, I love it when you compliment me constantly. It's really good for my ego.

That's why I felt when you were 40 today. Oh! No, but... You were also a bed neighbor. Yeah. Well, look... Jean Thomas was lying next to me the first time I got penetrated by Claude. But I had my white noise because...

You were not aware of it? No. Not penetration. The little furtive beaks, yes, but no penetration. In fact, Lisanne was the bed in front of me, and Claude was the bed next to me. So Lisanne was very adventurous at night, she switched to Claude's bed. And there were little furtive beaks.

And furtive beaks were not short, they were long was very noisy. And then people would say, yes, let's go to the French Hire. And then my ex was in front of me and he heard everything because I had already been with Kevin Lapierre. He was just there.

Well, at first he was in the other room. But now he switched, it's true. Well, it's his choice. Well, no, but not being in a relationship, I try to sleep and there are wet mouth noises. I wouldn't be able to. Oh, no, but I... If I hadn't...

Because I sleep with white noise, that is to say that... White noise? White noise, that is to say that I listen, let's say, to the washing machine in rinse mode, I have tracks on my cell phone, and he on the tent, on a metal roof. So you really appreciate it on a tent? Not just on a tent, I'm not talking about a family member. More on my aunt Guylaine. She's the big one.

I had to say it before I became Big Brother, if I didn't have my white noise, I would never sleep. Even more, if there is penetration at less than a meter. For real, you weren't really there. I don't care. Anyway, I probably slept on the other side because I always sleep

with my right ear on the... We still had more class than that. Imagine your room, there are a lot of people and more than the weeks before, it's just you and Claude who stays. Everyone left, they left. Ah, yes, they decided to leave. They sabotaged their game because they weren't able to.

I understand what you mean. The thing is that Lisanne, she has a little bit of what reminds her of the game, because she became a patron. There she had her... She could make love with a shortened arm in the patron's room. So we could never talk. She was always messing with us. Hey, is that true?

But in Tabarouette, we didn't have a favorite week. Well, yes, we had the room. You invited people to do the strategies. No, it was like crazy. She was doing it. That's when she called a girl to go out with me, but she didn't realize that Kim was going to wake me up. I was in love.

I was in love. I was too... I was going crazy and I forgot to talk to the world. I was in love. I was in love. I was so... I was breaking plans and I forgot to tell everyone. I was like, but listen... You were talking to one person, and then the person said it to everyone. So no, but I have regrets about that, but it's okay because at the same time, I had a lot of good things that happened. Yeah, completely. And no, but that said, for real, I found their story cute I think it's beautiful.

They're hand in hand, like conquerors. I just had too much ego to stay alone. I was like, I can't trust my tabarnak anymore. I just have too much ego, what can I say? It's a problem. It's not for love. Even when you're strong, when I was talking about gentleness, even when she sent us all to shit, there was something soft about it. It's true. Eat it all, I told you. Eat it all.

Go ahead, you have to do it. It's like, go ahead, you have to do it. With all my respect. Were you there? No, you weren't there. No, I was at the confessional, because it was the thing with the room over there. Yes, yes, yes.

And then I came to abdicate that test, and then there was Kevin, the other one, and Camille. That's what I hated. And then they called me to the confession, and that's when you blasted everyone. I was spared. Obviously, he's been spared all the time. Anyway, do you have...

So right now, let's say, when you're projecting yourself into the future in relation to relationships and all that, do you have any wishes? Yeah, yes, I want to live a love story, reciprocal, functional, symbiotic. I think I'm ready. I think I've understood things about myself. I hope it will happen.

I don't fall in love often, so that's what scares me. I'm someone who's still difficult. It means that the dynamic has to be fun. That's what scares me. I'm someone who's still difficult. I need to have fun with the dynamic. As I said earlier, I like that the conversation is fluid. It needs to come to the point where desire is there, attachment is there. I would really like to live that,

but I don't think about it on a daily basis because I'm afraid it won't happen. I think if you think too much about it, it will never happen because it looks like you're in the universe, you're too needy, let's say. But I don't think I'm making girls feel it. I think I'm ready and I'd like to live alone. It's like the side that I find...

You know, in life, when we think about our life, I try to stay rational about the fact that I think I was really privileged. In many areas of my life, I had incredible parents, I was spoiled, I worked hard to make a living, and I still work hard. I deserved it in a way. But I think I was lucky with the timing, the synchronicity. It seems like life was good for me in many areas of my life. It's like I say to myself, OK, that's where it pays off, and I'm less lucky.

So I try to say to myself, OK, this is tougher, and it's less organic, or you're less lucky, but you've really been very, very spoiled in other areas of your life, so shut up. I'm not saying, I said shut up, I was looking at you, but I was talking to myself. I got it right, if it was me,

I'd be like, shut up. So I'd it well. If it was mine, I'd yell at it. But, so I'd like that. You know, I think that when I lost my parents, there's a lot of things that... There's a lot of things that change. That is to say that I've always been very close to my parents, but not from a point of view. There are some who have a very... Sometimes, I don't know you that well, but when you talk about your family, or when we talk about Big Brother, it's with his brother and sister, with your parents.

My parents had me at 40 years old, so they were my parents. I always wanted them to be my parents. And I protected them. I think that especially my mother, who was a very sensitive mother-of-pearl, I think I inherited the sensitive and empathetic side of my mother, who was, I'm not saying that my father wasn't, but my mother was always in protection. And if I said that I didn't trust her, let's say that I had a love penalty, I never spoke in the protection. And if I said I didn't trust her,

let's say I had a love penalty, I never talked about it to my mother. Because I knew she would have taken it out on her, and she would have started to insomnia thinking, my son, are you okay? So I tried to protect her a lot. But I've always liked the parent-child relationship. When my parents died in the span of five months, I had this bond that I've always liked.

And then I thought, well, if I could have that bond that I love, I have to have children myself. So I think there was a period where I was like, okay, that's it, I'm going to have children. But there was just something irrational in there. It was like a little bit of a at that age. So I don't completely close the door, but now I'm in peace with the fact that big things won't happen, and I think I could be happy without it too. So, but, compared to children, I don't have a specific wish, I leave life to decide. But compared to living a relationship of functional, reciprocal love, you know, all relationships are difficult, there are difficult parts, but I think I would like to relive that, knowing that maybe it will end up in a love penalty.

But I think I'm a little more equipped than I was when I was young, where I was in love and when it stopped, I was demolished. But I wasn't equipped to face that love penalty. Yes, I was, but now I'm more aware of who I am. There are a lot of things I've understood about myself. So, that's why I was one of the main motivations for consulting. It was the fact that I felt my unconscious escape pattern. I don't want to deal with that because you're afraid of getting hurt.

And if you give up and fall into a loop of desire and love, it could end badly. If it ends badly, you're going to get hurt. I consulted him because I felt like there had to be a knot to untie in relation to that. I'm not saying that he's untied because I didn't face him concretely, but I understood him a lot more, so I think it gives me tools. And the fact of understanding him, it seems like it takes away a layer of pressure. I understand some of my patterns and some of my unconscious blockages.

So, understanding, I'm not saying it will be translated as a success if I re-acquaint it, but I'm more optimistic and I want to face it and live it and hope that it... I really wish you the best. Well, that's nice. My God, I'm so into... well, not into you, but... You're inside me right now? Yeah, I think so. It looks like I feel a little bit, and it's rare that I'm the same. I'm in you.

You're inside me. Yeah, and I feel what you feel. You don't penetrate me. I penetrate you. Well, but still. I like that. If there was no... I'm going to work with you so that it happens.

I'm telling you, we're going to... Penetration will be frequent. Yes. It's going to be fine. Okay? It's going to be fine. You're going to be fine. I'm going to work with you. I'm going to work with you so that it happens. I'm telling you, we're going to... Penetration will be frequent. Yes. It's going to be fine. Okay? It's going to be fine.

You're an extraordinary being. My God, yes. You're fine. I love you so much. You're so fun to listen to. You have all kinds of intelligence. You're such a beautiful person. I love you so much.

You're fine. it's very reciprocal. But was it a love statement just to understand? Because I have mechanisms, I have patterns, and I love you a lot, but I'm not in love yet. I know. But if I fall in love, what will be the frequency of sexual intercourse that you will hope for? I know your heart is already taken, I hear it, and it's okay. It's not really free, free love. I think that after today, there may be a couple of people who will like you.

But are you in a penetration mode? I'm in your mode. Is the fact that she threw flowers at me, does it trigger something? Hey, it's mine, I'm going to penetrate it. No, not really. Let's share. We can penetrate together. Okay, it's like a combined symbolic interaction.

Yes, that's it. And I have a mini last question before... I can't answer everything. Well, is the spectrum that we talked about earlier, is it something... You never wanted to see? Yes, well, in fact, I had a scheduled appointment just before the pandemic exploded. So at that time, I wanted to explore that, I wanted to understand, I had read, and I wanted a diagnosis as official. And because of the instructions, the appointment had to be canceled. I don't remember exactly, it's been a while.

And after that, I thought I was going to do Big Brother, and when I left, it was still the cover fire, etc. I read a lot, and then one year I went to the stadium, where even people around me were like, well, that's straight. You can't say anything. It seems like I don't know what it would give me time to have a diagnosis. It's like I live as if.

There are so many things I've read, I'm like, hey, it looks like me, it looks like me. Not everything, but, you know, for example, let's say, I can't go to a stand that has has the door open, sometimes the indicator for the store, I can't be in a shop like that for more than a minute and a half. Let's say there's a long line of waiting, I have my bread, my milk, my nerds, I love nerds, and there I wait and there are 12 people and then then I hear, nanananana, it happened often that I would bring back items, and I took off,

because the sound makes me go crazy. So I have like, sensorially, I have... I... It's like everything is more... I have a very high sensitivity on sounds, the heat,

the spices, the canicules. It's terrible, as I'm not really into canicules. I have very erogenous mambelons. We talked about that before. I have very erogenous mambelons. That's why you don't wear a shirt. It makes a very pleasant little froth. No, it's not for that. It seems that I'm better when I directly touch the skin with some textile.

But no, it happens. Let's say it can be a bit confusing for a girl sometimes who... I live with intimacy, but I name it quickly so that the person doesn't do what they're doing. But it can happen that if I'm on the back, I touch the mammals. If the girl is above me, I'll do the same. Yes, but it's full of hydrogen. I really do that. But compared to other guys, I think I'm particularly sensitive to mammals. Ah, I like to surprise my mom. Yes. Yeah, no, I don't have... I don't know, I've never...

You've never read about it? I've never... I'm privileged to have access to a male clitorid orgasm of detachment and crushing. I don't have the prostate. I've never tried it either. I'm not a mega fan of this kind of searching, but I'm not refractory either. But it wouldn't be me who would do like, let's go!

Fall into the mode of archaeology. But imagine, I'm in you and I'm going there, it wouldn't bother you. No, it wouldn't bother me, but... It's that I still have things that can make me laugh in sexuality. Let's say, let's say a girl wants me to be a little... ...a little... A little? I'm just going to laugh. It's impossible for me to laugh.

You know, there are some girls who say, I'd like that, it's going to be cool. But no, it's not gonna be credible, I'm just gonna laugh. Because the speed of the slap is gonna be a caress. It's gonna be... No, but I don't want to hurt myself,

I wouldn't be like... Try to visualize me like... Yeah, you're gonna slap me. No, it's not me. It can be intense, it doesn't bother me with the intensity. Sometimes it can be soft, sometimes it can be more intense. You're used to doing that. Yeah, it becomes like a bubble-ed.

But for me, the intensity will never be translated by slaps. And even when they are complained by the person, it doesn't mean a punch, of course, but I can't, I'm going to have the gut feeling because I'm going to have the impression that my slap but I can't. I'm going to have the gut feeling that my talosh is so not credible that I'm going to laugh. Because I'm going to be like... You know, there's nothing that works.

It's a very old-fashioned excuse. You think it's from 49 to 69. I think you're making steps. Yeah, okay, I'm getting it. No, I think it's the... There's no woman who's excited about listening to the podcast lately. Nobody's like, I want to live this! The grunts!

It's surprising. It's surprising. There are some for every group. It's even partial suffocation. But no, I'm always scared. I'm not able to... But that's okay. And it's not everyone who wants that. No, no, no, I know, I... But that's okay. Not everyone wants that.

No, I know, but there are girls who like that. But even things like cuirettes, sado majos, I'm going to laugh. I'm completely in respect. People who practice that, I respect that I'm very open. It's just that I can't practice that because I'm going to...

Let's say, Zorro masks, that's what I laugh at. Because I'm too ironic, and's just that I can't practice that because I'm going to put on a lot of Oro, it's surgery. Because I'm too ironic and second degree in life, even in sexuality, there are things that can make me unhook, that will make my erection disappear forever. That's it, but hey. But that's okay. Yeah, it's okay. Everyone has their preferences. There are for all, there are really for all. So don't worry. If you don't like it, someone else will put it on. Yeah, exactly. You have to find your own fit.

Yes. Do you think that with your... Because you clearly seem to have a lot of things in your brain. A lot. Do you... Sometimes it happens to you, sometimes just being able to enjoy it. And have you ever asked yourself

if you're really good, if you're happy, or if you're always in the... Did you go into intimacy or a more global point of view? In life, I wonder, in your brain. Yeah, I was going to say... It's a good question. It's intriguing. My happiness is...

Sometimes I... It can be days that I'm sad and I don't know why. I do a lot of performance anxiety in life. When I'm in a show or I'm shooting a show, like right now I'm shooting, and the show is set up and I know it works well. But when I have to set up a show, I do performance activity,

because it can make me unhappy, and I'm like, OK, I like it when it's better, and it doesn't mean my show is perfect, it's a matter of taste, but at least I like it a lot, and I feel that the reaction is good in the theater. So, in the theater, I'm talking about the theater, I'm not going to say, it's good in the theater. In the theater, that's what I understood. So, yeah, sometimes I'll have more humorous, sadder days,

where I think it's still related to... I'm not in the comparison, I find comparing oneself in life is the worst thing, because when we compare ourselves, let's say someone who, I don't know, for example, Sébastien Desdeny, who is a good friend of mine, he was with his girlfriend since they were 14 years old. They met at school, they are still lovebirds, fusion, ils stripent dessus. J'ai une certaine... j'ai pas de jalousie. Des fois, j'aurais une envie de vivre ça. Des fois, il faut pas se comparer, mais des fois, tu fais comme,

OK, ça, c'est quelque chose qui manque peut-être un peu à ma vie, j'aimerais vivre un jour. Puis la vie est pas finie. À 49 ans, la vie n'est. At 49, life is not over, unlike what Lisanne always says, because on social media, all her stories end with, at 49, life is over. Yes. You'll have to stop this discussion.

Do you leave your home, do you put yourself in situations where you can meet someone? Yes, I'm not very skilled at that. That is to say that, yeah, I'm not able to go to bars, so... I'm not in the context of meeting a lot, but... But you know, I can have friends-friendship... ...friendship. Do you have any girls after your shows that come to see you and don't want to see you? Not really. Very, very, very rarely. Oh yeah?

I think I... The fact that I'm here, I'm here just because Lizandre is there... No, I'm still someone private. It's so nice of you to come. Thank you. No, I had to make my love declaration and it had to come out. I know it's a joke, but every time it scares me. I'm happy to be here, I have fun, but I'm still someone who is a little reserved. I'm not someone who doesn't let go of the alpha male. I think girls should feel my reserve or maybe someone who thinks I'm gay. You look like McDreamy in Grey's Anatomy.

If you've ever done that. It's James... thing. How do you say it? I don't know. My mom had already sent me a picture. I know him who's in... Oh, wait. The guy who's in Dreamy...

I... You're getting old. I'm crazy about the little... ...gray fuck. Patrick Dempsey. Yeah, Patrick Dempsey. I've done this a few times. 49 years old. Check this out.

You know... Check this out. Oh wow! Oh my God. A handsome man. He wow! Beautiful man. Beautiful man. By the way, do you have an anecdote? Do you have time for an anecdote? Do you want to go to the bathroom?

Hey, wait, can we say it on Patreon, for example? Do we say it on Patreon? Or because there's a Patreon? We can talk about it another time. I'm not in a hurry. Okay, but do Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. but it's still funny, but it comes with a trash side. But I'm not bi-curious, I don't have any bisexual experience in my life, but I like to hug guys, but I don't have a desire to... But sometimes I can find a very handsome guy, let's say I have to change my look, I think I a very handsome guy, let's say I have to change my look, I think I'll take this look or the de-game of his personality.

And then, for the first time in my life, I was listening to a series called Designated Survivors. Survivors Designated, it has nothing to do with Survivors. The show is a series with Kiefer Sutherland. And for the first time in my life, without seeing desire for a guy, I was like, he's really beautiful, he's really very charming, he has charisma, he has beautiful traits. So there, I listened to the series, I was like, okay, well, him, let's say I have to sleep with a guy,

let's say a guy from the temple tells me, do you have to sleep with a guy. Let's say, we're in the same boat, and we say, you have to sleep with a guy. That's it, I'll take him. But I didn't think I would stop directing. But, you know, I could have a little tenderness, sleep on his shag. I didn't think that. I caricature a little,

but in the sense that I say, OK, let's say... I said to myself, if it's the first time in my life I don't have any attraction, I'm not like, ah! But I was like, ah my God, he charms me! So there, that's where the weird side comes in. His name is Adam Cantu,

he's a Mexican actor. So there, while listening to the series, I was like, my God, he's very charming, and he draws scenes where he, you know, he's very charming, and there are scenes where he... You know, it's a bit dangerous, but... And it's in the political universe, you know, he's not a player at all in the show. Except that... It's him?

Yes, it's him. But he... But that's it, so I'm googling him, to see if there was another series. What is his story? This guy. Then I was like... He's dead. He was dead two years ago. And then I was like... I got sad. I got wet eyes. I was like, oh no! But not in the sense that my baby is dead. He died in January 2024.

I know, he just died. How did he die? He had a appendicitis cancer. It's a very rare cancer, it seems. Clearly. And he had two children. That's a nice guy. But he's a really good actor.

And there's something very... Anyway, in the series. So I was just curious, what's his story? Not in the sense... I want to add it on Instagram, it wasn't that, but... But then I saw that he was dead and I was like, oh, it really did me good!

You had the pain in your heart. I had the pain, but I didn't have the pain for... I couldn't live my story with Adam Cantu. But I was like, oh, it's very sad. I saw his family and I was like... I was in tears and I was like... I was in tears, and I was like, hey, it's been three days since I've been listening to his series. I know Fuckall.

And I knew I had to listen to episodes, and I listened to them and thought, he's dead. Oh, I didn't know that. Man Crush. Man Crush is dead. Are you the kind of person who, since he's dead, you're not able to listen to his stuff anymore?

No. Because you say he's dead. I listened to him, I continue to listen to him, but I stopped trying to imagine him on his chair. Oh! I knew it was impossible. Because you cut off the love that he could have. That's it, I know it's not possible to sleep on his chair. You did well, you're protected. It was weird because, as I said, I would say it if I was curious, I'm not.

I don't want to french guys, but I can find good guys, but I don't want to french them. But he was like, if I'm obliged to do it, he's the one I call. You won't be obliged. I won't'appelle. Tu seras pas obligé. Je serais pas obligé. Ça va être difficile. Ça, ça rentre. Tu t'en trouves un autre. J'en tombe.

Tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom. T'as-tu des trucs sur quoi tu travailles en ce moment que tu aimerais nous partager? Oui, bien en fait je suis en tournée. C'est surtout ça. C'est quoi ton spectacle? Yes, well, I'm on tour. That's mostly it. What's your show? My show is called District 31. It's really unclear when you say it in oral, because you don't have the visual of the poster. But when you see the poster, if you go to Instagram, the ad is pinned.

It's really strict. 31. I'm pretending that the gag on the poster is written, there are 10 faces that are less strict, there are 30 cups of tea, there's the number 1, so it's 10 strict 31. The parenthesis is written, hope the rooms fill up thanks to the confusion. So I'm the guy who tries to make sure that the people who tripped on the 31st district show are like, oh, it's in the room, let's go! confusion. Fait que je fais le gars qui essaie de faire en sorte les gens qui ont tripé sur l'émission de District 31.

Fait que c'est rendu en sages, bon ça c'est bon. C'est bon, puis on venait de parler de Poupou en plus. Oui c'est vrai, ton Poupou. Allo à Poupou, on t'invite au podcast s'il-vous-plaît, crise de la cinquantaine. Donc je suis en tournée en ce moment avec ce show-là dont le titre est pas super clair. C'est un titre qui n'a pas rapport avec le contenu du show. Dans mon show je parle beaucoup de very clear. I love it. But it's a title that has nothing to do with the content of the show. In my show, I talk a lot about my fear of aging. I talk about the fact that yes, I'm made of absurd humor,

but that absurdity is everywhere. I give examples of... I have a number on mourning, that we can laugh through mourning, it's important because I had some pretty strange things happen through my parents' mourning, I talk about that. So I'm on tour, jantanmagebin.com. If there are any...

A little story, Liz? Well, please. Oh, come on. I'd like that. Yes, I invited her for the first time. There was the Lü hook. Oh, stop it! It's not true.

She doesn't have the Lü hook. I like that. I want to go. Let's go. Hey, I just want to say, it's the first time I see you since you bought your CD and I want to give you my condolences. Oh, you're nice. I'm sure they'll get me another one. But you, your cats, they look...

Every time... I'm good with cats. And the dynamics of your cats, because your cat... The first one you had, what's his name again? Patate. Patate, it looks like the most sticky cat on the planet. Come home. I'm going to come, invite me. Come home, absolutely.

You're a little guy. I'm even going to accept that Claude and you have a sexual relationship without me putting my white nose on. You're insane. So yeah, it's JeanTamagetman.com. And what were we saying just before? So yeah, and then the potato and the second one is? Simus. But it looks like after like four days, he slept glued and I was like, it's rare, you're lucky, because in general, when another cat goes into the equation, there's jealousy, there's like...

But Timus was a baby and Patat was a mom who had her babies removed because we get so close, I can't believe we're finishing your podcast on my cats. Do you want me to put it on your channel? Shut up! Well, you're moving me away. Do you want to stay with us for another 15 minutes for our Patreon? With great pleasure! Hey, we'll talk about shirts! With great pleasure! We'll talk about other things, but not about the show.

It was fun to meet you. Me too. Thanks for having me. I made a nice discovery. You're a very you for coming. I made a nice discovery. I'm a very special human being. I love you a lot. I really hope you'll find what makes Blacklist. For real, he's really cute.

We'll talk about it later. But he's really cute. I told him when I got home, I said, I find you more beautiful in real life than on TV. Really? I said, OK. When I get my, I said, Hey, my God, I think you're more beautiful in real life than on TV. Oh yeah? Like... She said, OK. When I get my make-up done, it's a disaster.

Make-up is a natural thing. I think you're very beautiful. Well, you're very kind. Thank you very much. You can remember the two of us. It was very pleasant. No, but that's a thing, anyway, that... I know that I have to...

I was an introvert in life. And I try to improve myself by watching when I speak I speak. When I listen, I look, but when I speak, it's hard for me to keep an eye on myself because it's like the attention is on me. But that too, I stopped wanting to do that. Sometimes I was like, why do I have the trouble of keeping an eye on myself? Someone said, you're an introvert, you have the trouble of keeping an eye on yourself. And it's cute, I said that, but I think it's cute. Plus, I'm like, I'm looking at your eyes even more,

to be sure you're not... Certain with the support. Yeah! Okay, we're going to Patreon. Welcome to the official Patreon sexual orale platform. I'm here! Oh, Maria! I'm here! I'm here!

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