Sexe Oral - Le sexe d'Erika Suarez

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Les propos exprimés dans ce podcast relèvent d’expériences et d’opinions personnelles dans un but de divertissement et ne substituent pas les conseils d’un.e sexologue ou autre professionnel de la santé. Cette semaine sur le podcast, on reçoit l'humoriste Erika Suarez. Elle nous livre ses secrets pour garder une vie sexuelle pimentée. On jase de trip à trois, de roleplay et plusieurs autres sujets chauds. Pour suivre Erika: https://www.instagram.com/laerikasuarez/  Le podcast est présenté par Éros et Compagnie Utiliser le code promo : SexeOral pour 15% de rabais https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/ Les jouets dont les filles parlent: https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/page/podcast ---- Pour collaborations: [e-mail] Pour toutes questions: [e-mail] Pour suivre les filles sur Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sexeoralpodcast Pour contacter les filles directement, écrivez-nous sur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexeoral.podcast/

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And Tabarnak. It's been a long time since there was had a podcast that has excited me so much. It's like my brain woke up from a long sleep. Ah, that's right. We were hibernating. We were hibernating and it got us out of our cave. Yes, that's what was happening. Look, we're not going to say more. You'll understand.

It's going to change lives. It's going to change relationships in Quebec. I have everyone who has libido, from this podcast, you're going to come back. Yeah. Like, we just saved you thousands of dollars in consultation to find your libido. Absolutely. Thank you. Have a good podcast. Hello, Erika! Hello!

God, thank you for inviting me! Well, thank you for being here, Christophe! I'm happy. How are you? I'm fine, you? I'm happy! How are you? I'm fine, you? I'm fine, thank you! We just got scared, the three of us together, we were like...

We're the same, we're the same as everyone else who lives. Do you say it? What are we going to listen to? We're going to listen to three prayers for Joanie to feel better. In her... Sorry. That death will catch me and that... I'm scared. I'm going to pray tonight, be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. I was saying that earlier. In addition, we said, Rika, it's like, you see, it looks like you're a bit of a witch.

Like, yeah, I'm a bit of a witch. Like, clearly you have a cat named Salem. Exactly, I have a black cat. Oh yeah. Is it true? Yes, well, not really, I have a black cat. It's true, but it's not because I'm a witch. It's because that's what a special one had. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yes! Well, yes. Well, listen, we... we salute them, huh?

We salute them, and we're going to fuck them up on the stage. So... Erika, let's put it in context. Let's say there's someone who listens to us, who doesn't know who you are. Do you want to make a little guess? Who are you? What are you doing? Where are you from? Well, yes. Well, I'm a comedian a comedian, a beautiful girl. She smells good. I mean... I'm like...

Yes, bitch! You're fighting with my neon, bitch! I know! It's good, right? It's like the same pink. Yes, it's the same pink. I'm on brand. All the time. All the time. Yes, that's it. I make jokes, I do a lot of stuff. I don't know too much.

I did... Yeah, that's it. When have you been humorous? I've been humorous for about three years. And you were still fast with my stuff. Did you go to the school of humor? It was just a pity. I just got a little bit of a pity.

There were people who said to me, Oh, you're funny, you should try to make humor. And I was like, well, being funny between us and being funny on stage, it's two completely different things. But now I got started, I tried it, and I fell, etc. I was like, being funny between us and being funny on stage are two completely different things. But now I started, I tried and I fell in love with it 100% and eventually I thought... You didn't take writing classes because

what's the hardest thing in humor? It's writing. No, I didn't take classes, but I really started at the beginning, I started listening to lots of documentaries, I read lots of books. So it's just to give me the skills. But even today, I still take training, you know, you can never know too much. But yeah, I started doing humor, after that I did Big Bro, we have that in common.

And that's it, I survived. Did you like Big Brother? I really liked it. I really got really shocked. I would go back anytime. But it was intense, by the way. Did you like that? Yeah, but let's say the following year after Big Brother, it was like I did it again, for sure. And the more the years go by, the more I realize

how hard it was on the mental. It's really hard. It's really really hard. How long have you been doing this? Two years? One year? No, it's the last season since the mental. It's really hard. Yes. It's really really hard. How long have you been doing this? Two years? One year? No, it's the last season that I'm doing this. It's the last season?

Yes, I went out last March. Okay. At this point, when you're there, it still tempts me. But in a couple of years, I swear, you're like, oh shit, okay. It takes a moment to get out of what you're living. It's tough. Yeah, but I'm still in it. I know I'm still in it. You're a little like, who's talking?

Is there an alliance forming? You're a jerk. Yeah, really. Yes, yes, there's PTSD that stays. It's Corinne who told me something that I really found, it can't be better described. To be a big bro when you go out, after that, it's the Stockholm syndrome.

Yeah, that's cool. Stockholm syndrome is when you fall in love with your... Your aggressor. Your aggressor, let's say. You know? So that's really the feeling. Because you go there, you're 100% in trouble. It's terrible on the mind to do that show.

But it's so much fun. Yeah, love-hiding. And it brings so much... It's really difficult. And the exit is difficult, I think. And the relationships with the people you've been with. It's such strong relationships, condensed in a short time. When you go out and go back to everyday life, you become a little bit of a stranger with people who know everything about you.

It's a little bit weird. It's really weird. I've never seen three quarters of people like that. That's it. It's really special. You say, we'll see each other again, we'll be friends every night. You say that at the beginning. It's like the camps.

The vacation camps. It's so sad. There's a kind of rejection There's a kind of reject after, a kind of... A little It's really fun, it has a lot of positive sides. You have to think about all the elements. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.

But Erika, you talk a lot. And that's what we were told a lot. You talk a lot about dating. Yes. You really have a lot of stories. I have a lot of dating stories. And today, the theme is your best dates. So, but before that...

And one night. And one night, yeah. Before that, I would like you to share with us your worst and your best. Oh yeah, okay. The worst is the best. Yeah, but if you have two worst, can you say two worst? Well, that's the thing. I had an intense dating period before I was with my chum,

and I've been with my chum for a long time, it's been 9 years. So when I was single for a year, and I said to myself, let's go, we do everything we can do, but I didn't have as much success as that. I had a lot of bad stories actually. Ah, okay! Like, exciting. I'm so sorry! So when I'm asked the worst, I'm like, my God! Hey, I'm going to tell you about it.

Oh my God, what could I tell you? I'm going to tell you... Okay, I was on a date with a guy last year. Okay. And... Yeah, I'm going to tell you about that. It's the 100th one that's not close. I was on a date, a super hot guy, hot, like I see him and I'm like,

yes bitch, it's gonna happen, okay? So we're on a date, we're trying to go for a walk like in Mont-Royal, a very relaxed date. It connects, we walked all the way to Mont-Royal, it was awesome, we walked a lot. And then at the end, I'm like, are you going back home? And he said yes. So we took a taxi. When we got home, he left the taxi.

Without paying. And he left me in the taxi. So I paid the taxi. I was like, ok, it's not going well. It's not going well. You're going a quarter of a mile less. I got out of the taxi, I'm like, I paid for the taxi. He was like, cool.

I'm like, okay. Alright. So we go home. And how do we put everything on TV? He says, I have a co-lock, but don't worry, he won't leave his room. I'm like, but you don't have a room? He's like, yeah, but I don't have a TV in my room. I'm like, but we don't care about the TV.

I'm like, he was like, no, we're going to sit down, we're going to talk about what? There he puts Family my family guy. No. My family guy. I'm like, well, it's perfect. What better than edgy jokes for... For the close-up. After like five minutes, he's like, we're going to my room. I'm like, ah, not what I asked for five minutes ago.

Then we go to his room, we start to warm up in the nap. He tells me, just before it happens, he tells me, do you mind if I don't put condoms on? Then I'm like, well, you warm up in the bedroom? He says, just before it happens, do you mind if I don't put condoms on? I'm like, yes, I do mind. It's yes. No, but it's because I've been told to do... what's the word I'm looking for?

Surveillance? What do you mean by you've just been told to do that? He says, yes, but before. But you can't do that. I'm yesterday. But you can't do that. That's it. I'm like, but now you can't do that. You still have some points and everything. He's like, yeah. But if I put a correct condom on, I'm like, but are you sure, my man? It won't work anymore.

I'm like, but you can't do that. You can't. You know, the date was going well. I was like, girl, I'm about to get this dick and go home. Oh, no. I was ready. I was like, it's perfect, it's a cool day. And even when I said I was going to remind him, he was like, yeah, no, it won't work. I was like, okay, but with or without condoms, my friend, it won't work. So he was like, okay.

Full of circumstances, it was my fault. He was like, okay, but you can stay here and sleep. But I was like, I hope there's an idiot morning hour. So we sleep. The next morning, I hear... He was about to pu okay. Okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay.

I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay.

I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay.

I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. you're awake, perfect. I have to go do my jogging, so... Then I'm like... Okay, okay. Then I get dressed. I'm like, what's going on? Then we go out, and he's like, yeah, well, I don't know where I am, I'm in Montreal, but I don't know the area, I don't know... I'm like, okay, is there a metro not far? He's like, yeah, there's a metro not far, just go up the street, turn left,

you'll see the metro. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, hi! And he's leaving. But I'm going in the opposite direction. I'm like, okay. I walked down the street, breaking news, there was no subway. Impossible. No!

No subway. And that happened to me non-stop. I have a date where the next morning the guy made me crepes in the shape of Jesus. No. Yes! In the shape of Jesus? How can you make a Jesus in the shape of a cross? The guy was a great artist.

He did... Jesus is a good guy. He was alone in the drawing. I told myself several times, I love you on the first date too. Don't do that. Don't do that. I understand that for example. You're a really nice person and a good person.

I would say I love you too. You're right. You're right. I'm more difficult with guys than with girls. Because I'm bisexual. Yes, that's it. I thought you were bisexual, I knew it, but I didn't know if... Yeah, I'm bisexual.

Can you tell us about your pansexuality? When did you discover it? Oh my God, I always knew that I was... When I was young, the first time I said something gay, I was in the maternity ward. And then my parents were like, damn, it's going to happen. I didn't understand that I had a friend who had a little boy, and I didn't understand. I was terrible at what was happening. I was like, well, let's see, guys with guys, girls with girls, I think.

In my head, that was it. And then my parents were like, oh, okay. And when I got to high school, I was really mixed up in it. I knew I liked girls, I also liked guys, I didn't understand too much. And then a little later in my life, I heard the word bisexual, and I was like, aha! That's it. And one day I was at the gym, and I saw in the locker room a trans woman who hadn't done the surgery,

the bottom surgery, but who had breasts. And when I saw that, I was like, wait a minute. That's what's going on. That's nice. When I came back from the gym, I saw that and I was invaded by a really strong sexual desire. And I was like, oh my God, I got informed. And when I left my last relationship,

which was super toxic and disgusting, I made myself friends a little more queer. With a man? Yes, with a man? Yes, with a man. And... Yes, that's it. And someone told me, oh, pansexual, maybe that's it.

Because if you really, if you really, you know, the physics, for you, all the physics interests you, you're maybe pansexual. And when I was told that, I said, oh yes, that's it. And then I followed. The person, like, whatever, it's the energy of the person. Yes, exactly. Is there a variation between the types of bodies that go, or is it really, no matter what the body is, it depends on what's in it?

No, that's the thing with... with... with homosexuality, it's that a lot of people are pansexual and they're like you said, it's really the emotion, but like the person, the spirit and all that. But, I'm not like that. I'm like... For me, it's important to have the same physique. Okay.

And there's really a hierarchy, you know, the man, as such, the cis man, it's really what I like the least, physically. I'm with a man, I don't know. We salute him. That's it, we salute him. No, and it's really... You know what it proves?

I always say it in my head, that's what proves you're really the love of my life. Because if I'm with you, it's really you that I want. But I really have a preference for... As long as we go purely superficial, like on the physical, let's go. It's really...

And trans women who haven't done surgery... Bulls and a tail, what can I tell you? Oh yeah. It's the best. Everything haven't done surgery. What do I tell you? Oh yeah. It's the best. Everything is there. I understand. Everything is there. I just have a little...

Because I considered myself as pan for a long time, and then I was told that the nuance between bi and pan was really at the level of if there is a hierarchy, but that bisexuals include all the people who are on the spectrum. So you can't be bisexual and it counts non-binary people, whatever. So that's what I heard. It wasn't necessarily just gay. Yes, I have a bisexual friend.

And what she likes are men or trans men. Yeah, but that would still be hetero-like. Since it's just men, let's say. Yes, but she doesn't define herself. I have the impression that it's so personal. My reflex would have been to say that it's just straight, you know? But... You can be, let's say, you know, you have an heterosexual attraction,

but you're sure... You can consider yourself in the umbrella of queerness, because you have an opening to... But yeah, you know, your chela... I think there are so many nuances that it's really personal to each one. There are many people who see each other in different ways. And among the people I know, there are contradictions in terms of terms. Yes, that's it.

I think it's just... Really, I hear that, I'm like... I understand that it's important to have labels, but the day, I say it, the day, would we need those labels anymore? It's going to have labels, but the day, I say the day, if we would need those labels anymore, it's going to be really incredible. Because you're going to be able to love the person you want without having to define yourself, without having to say, hey, I'm this, and then say, ah, but finally, I'm not that, or I'm not that, like, hey, I find that complicated. Because for me, even intersex, sometimes, when I talk to other people

and they explain to me what their vision are about pansexuality, I'm like... I'm really attracted to people who have all kinds of different appearances and identities. So it doesn't stop there. It seems like I tend to go more towards the pan. I'm not saying I'm against labels, on the contrary. I'm just looking forward to the day when we can just love who we want, and that it changes and that we come back. We're not there yet.

Can you open my Prime? It's been like 45 minutes since I've been trying to open it. Thank you. No, but having such a big opening, on the other hand, it's a beautiful meeting, it's a nice evening. 100% It's fun. My best one night trip or date was with women or trans women.

Okay. Women. And also because, you know, lesbian trans women, that happens. We may have someone in common. No. Okay. No. Sorry.

It would have been really... I'll take notes. No, but that's it. I'm a person who... I like the human warmth. I like the world. I really have a big preference for women. It was very clear with my chum from the start.

And when I was just getting married and dating, I was surprised how many times I was on dates and that I was saying that to partners and that for them it didn't work, especially guys. In what sense? In that sense, it happened to me very often to go on dates and I was telling the guys from about it, I love women. And it brings me something that you will never be able to bring me.

So if you're not open to the fact that sometimes there are times when people will enter our sexuality, but it won't work. We're not open-minded at all because of that. I could never do that, I would never be able to. But because open-minded implies that it can be individual. You know? Oh, okay. So you make trips sometimes. Yeah, that's it. Me and my boyfriend, we're open.

And we like having fun. So it happens that we're going to add someone to our sexuality. And it's really important to me because I was like, it's impossible for me to spend the rest of my life without a woman in my life. Impossible. So, but it's not emotional. My need is more sexual. But a lot of times, I told guys on dates before being with my husband

and they were like, no, he's very bad. And I was like, no, you don't have to tell me that. Because there were guys who thought it was the answer to give. And I was like, no, no, it's true. And he really didn't want to. And there were even guys who were like, it won't work. And I was really surprised. I had this mentality that you go on a date with a girl and they say, well, I'm going to have to do

three-to-three with other girls. And guys were like, well, yes, of course. But no, it happened really often that there were people who were like, no, no, it won't work. It's surprising. It's surprising, huh? The dream of Claude, no. It's funny. It's surprising too. The dream with the other one? It's funny. What's funny?

It's funny, it's really a little comic. It's really a little comic. Well, no, but it surprises me. I was thinking about the word that... I already had... I think it's important to do that anyway because it's like recognizing that you could as much as have feelings for a girl as much as a man. It's recognizing that they have the same value. It's like, I never have feelings for guys but girls don't have any problems.

It's like there's something I'm uncomfortable with about that. So at least if you're fucking consistent in the fact that all guys are better. Yes, but that's what I learned thanks to that. I really had this mentality that no guy would ever tell me that he wasn't in for that. But that's the explanation I've received several times that was like, if you told me that you weren't seriously attracted to women, well that would be different. But now you tell me that you love women,

not more than you love men. So I'm afraid that this connection will be made with the girl and that she will finally have less. And I was like, my God, wow. To see that... She considers it for real. She considers it for real, but it's so good. But that's what worked with my husband. I told him and... It was like all in. All in. But there was this...

There was this point that had been brought up. And I would say, I fell right under the head for that guy. So, this worry, it was my job to prove to my husband that no, it's really in a sexual context. And also to make him comfortable when we're in those situations where communication is so important when you add people to your couple. What is it, because we often ask ourselves in our shows, what is the best way to add, like, what are the tips you would give to someone who has never done that and who would like to add someone?

Well, the first question you have to ask yourself is why do you want to add someone? You know, what's the reason? Is it just one of the two people who really want that and the other person does it for that person? If that's not going to work, do it. It won't work. And also, who is the other person? You know, it's... The best thing I can give you is to be clear. And don't be afraid to name things.

The first time I did it with my boyfriend, the girl, we had a conversation before. And we were just really raw, clear. Like, we're this, this, this, this. And I don't really have any restrictions. So I was like... I was like, here's what's going on. And what are the expectations of the girl?

You have to have a safe word, and if something doesn't work, say it, we'll stop. The clearer it is, the more fun it will be. It's as simple as that. If there are bad words, if there are discomforts, it's going to be bad, for sure. But if you put everything on the table and everything is clear, there are people who think it's going to waste the moment to do that.

It's going to waste the spontaneity of the moment. But let me tell you, a spontaneous trip is not a very good idea. Oh yeah. It's really not a good idea. Like in a party and then things can... That we are drunk and then after that the hand on the desk does half the work. It's not a good idea. The best way to do that is to be really in a clear context

where everyone's expectations are clear and you say..., it can be crazy, by the way. It's not a meeting, Zoom, where everyone is sitting in front of each other, today we're going to talk about points. No, it's not that. It can be in a vibe, it can be in a game. There are games that sell for that. Oh yeah? How? What kind of games? Society games. Sex. I thought you were talking about the meeting.

No, no, no. You can play sexual games. You can play games that have questions, that you can answer, and that can clarify things. You go to sites, forums, there are plenty. You go meet people. Exchange clubs are a great place to experiment. That's what I said at the show. Before even embarking on a date, go to a club to see your boyfriend's reaction. How he looks at the others. If it's annoying, don't avoid anyone.

For real, the first step is to avoid someone. Because you can think it's nothing and you're ready. And then, seeing that, you're doing nothing, but you're ready. And then, seeing that, you're like, oh fuck. And then, sometimes in action, you can do things you regret. So, go to class. And also, just to experiment in fantasy, with toys. Maybe a toy that could represent another person. And then, to do roleplay. Because if that bothers you, imagine if could represent another person, and then do roleplay and then do...

Because if that bothers you, imagine if it was another person who was there, and then you have to do it in front of someone else. There's not even another person, and that's going to break the gene, it's going to break the... It's really... I find that adding someone to your couple, doing a trip like that,

it's really the last step, and there are many steps before. But the world skips those steps to have the big trip right away. They don't discover themselves in front of them, they don't discover themselves. And maybe you are a lot more than you think and you don't even know. And you will discover yourself by doing a lot of exercises together, and you talk, and you pull things. And sometimes you will say something and you will say,

oh, finally, don't do that. Listen to the point together, look at other people, think, it's really communicating, because otherwise, it's sure it doesn't work. It's sure, sure, sure it doesn't work, and it won't be fun. Because a trip, when it's fun... It's fun. What are your limits?

What are the things that you're like, I really can't put it. Hum... Pfft! My limits? I really don't want to, let's say. Um...... My limits? I would say, I have emotional limits. That's more my limits.

Really. He can't tell you in words, but you can't manage it. It doesn't even work. An example, there was a couple who came to see me after a show. In fact, I tell you that public service announcement, if you come to see me after a show, we'll make a trip to Troyes.

It won't work, okay? It won't work. It happens often. Okay? Wow. Oh, really? Yes. In fact, you talk about it in your shows, like...

No, but I think I have a sex vibe, and I have the same energy, and I'm extroverted, and I'm open. So people, where I tell dating stories, it's in my stand-up, things like that, and people feel that vibe of me, you know? So they feel very comfortable. And one day, a girl came to see me, and she said, oh, you're so beautiful, I'd really like to go on a trip, and I was like,

my God, thank you, it's flattering, but no, you know. And we started talking and she was like, yeah, she said to me, the trip of my chum is to kiss another girl in front of me, like he kisses me. So, he wanted to make love to another girl with her boyfriend. But that implied that he said he loved her. He said, really make love. I said, I would never do the same thing.

I would never want to see my boyfriend make love to another girl. He would say they love each other. It was almost like it was not sexual. Sexuality was a way for them to go on an emotional trip. They loved it and they loved it both, so it's quite chill. But they loved it to incorporate someone in their couple and pretend they were in love with us. Do you think I'm going to say it? Are you a unicorn?

You know, the 3M in a couple. Yeah, but they were really... Their king was a lot to talk about. It was like, you know, we want you to tell us what you love us, and we're going to give it to you too, and my boyfriend is going to do that. And you're like... I was like... Yeah, no, that's it. That's less...

But in addition, at that time, you were in a couple. Yes, that's it. Yeah. Okay, so even without a couple, you would have done... No, it wouldn't have been my vibe. But you know, I'm putting myself in their shoes and I'm applying that to my couple, but that would be... that would be unable to live. I'm like... I'm not jealous, but I've put limits. No, but it's normal, there are things that make you uncomfortable.

Do you have any troubles with yourself? Troubles? Troubles? Troubles? Do you see a little bit of my life? No! You're going to have to travel with us tomorrow? You? You're going to travel? You're not going to travel with us? No! I've heard that on the phone. I'm like, how do they manage all this? All this good stuff?

Yes, that's it. But it's a lot of management. A lot of management. I'm the one who's going to manage it. And I think it would be a lot of information at the same time. But what I've always said I would do, like, if God allows me one day, it would be two pianists. you know, and they clearly are not too complicated, you know. They know where the troops are and everything.

So that would be it. You? Yes, I do. But I associate it a lot with the period of my life where I drank a lot of alcohol. Okay. So now that I don't consume anymore, I have a blockage that has created because I was always doing really intoxicated, really drunk. It's not good memories.

Yes, it was fun, but it's fucking blurry. Once I broke down, it was a big deal. Yes, it's moments that I look at and it's hot, Une fois je t'ai pété, ça a l'air d'être une affaire. Je suis comme... Fait que oui, oui, c'est des moments que je regarde, pis c'était chaud, là. C'était fucking chaud, mais tu sais... Live à Jeun avec... Tu le prêtes-tu à Jeun?

Dans ton contexte, tu le prêtes-tu? C'est ça, j'ai vraiment un blocage qui s'est installé. Pis vraiment, vraiment. C'est parfait, t'as le droit. C'est ça, là aussi, qui est important, c'est de le dire. Ouais, pis c'est vraiment quelque chose que comme... Tu sais, to say it. Yeah, and it's really something that, you know, I tried to imagine myself, but I don't feel like I would be excited about it. You know?

With that value, there's a little... No, it's not a value. Alcohol is like, well, yes, a little, you know? Alcohol is like part of me, which was super important for me. You, let's say, you're completely drunk every time you did that? Not every time, but most of the time, yes. Completely drunk? Yes.

Not a glass in the body? I don't really drink alcohol. Okay. Yes. I don't really drink alcohol in life. A little puff of weed, I don't know what it is. Yes, and even there, I like to be in full possession of my means when I do that. Okay.

But it's the best thing. Yeah. And also, that's what shows that you really like it. Yeah, that's it. But it's for sure that it removes a kind of... ...gene. It makes it easier when you have something to help you. Whether it's edible or any kind of drugs you use, or alcohol, or anything.

Of course it can help, but fundamentally you have to like it when you're young. Because you don't have to have a desire to create yourself because of the consumption. But that happens a lot because it's almost made for that. Yeah, it's crazy. No matter what you take, it gives you... The sensations are more intense, the sensations are more... You're more in a favorable state to that. But it makes sure that maybe you don't feel things that you'll feel afterwards and you'll be like, oh yeah, maybe I liked it at first, but now...

And that makes sure that often later you do like, yeah, I'm going to do it, but not at all. Something you liked at first can become something that holds up today because you didn't do it in the best possible ways. Exactly. I think there are a lot of associations that can do that. I associate it to a moment when I was unfaithful, I didn't respect the limits of my partners, I was always drunk, I made bad decisions.

It's all put together in a package that today I've all worked on. It seems like all these triples are part of it. I clearly have a strong blockage right now. It's something I'd like to settle eventually. Yes, it's totally normal. And somewhere, it's a bit... I told you earlier why you do it. The motivation or what drives or what feeds the desire

or what feeds the desire is really important. And I think that's what makes Montchamps work so well. What feeds that desire for us is our love that is so strong that for us, I like to do it with my boyfriend. I would never do it alone. I would never do it on my side and he would never do it on his side either. Because it's almost like a tag team. When we have someone with us, it's our mission to make it the best base for this person. For us, that's it. It's like we do...

We do this for the other person, almost. Together. Sometimes there's almost a competition between us, for who will do the most good to the other person. So you want to be our plus one, actually. Because what motivates us is that we love each other so much and we live something so strong together. We have to face someone else, you know?

And then, the other person brings us something sexual, but for us, the person is like a toy. In the sense that she's there to bring us pleasure, but there's nothing emotional about us in that act. But we want it to be very comfortable for the other person. So we really have together a crazy pleasure to do good to other people. Me, seeing my husband do good to another girl, it makes me feel good. It makes me feel good.

Even though I coach him, you know? I'm going to start the relationship with the girl to find out how it came about, and then explain to my husband how it came about. I to my husband how it happened to the girl? I have an announcement to make. Arna Soli, you're not my favorite anymore. You're not my danger anymore. It's not you anymore. Since the moment I listen to you, I'm like... There, it's okay.

It's okay. No, no, no, in the sense, in the good sense. You find yourself beautiful, but I love the fact that you think so much about the pleasure of the other. That's the fun. It's fun to hear for any woman. That's what we want to hear, no matter who you are. That's what I realized. It's fun to see someone who cares so much for the woman. Exactly. And that's really what it comes from. And the discussion, you know, me, two guys,

it's a little less something that... It's in the right places and everything, it would be... But my guy thinks it's stupid. It's my guy. Because the two of us are the same. I don't like seeing my guy with another girl. My guy is like, Christ, he says to me, I want to see what it looks like when The fact that it's that, the point, it comes from,

I want to see you have fun, and I want to see the other person have fun too, to be able to do like, yeah, that's mine bitch. That's really our motivation. In that case, there's nothing unhealthy for us in there. We don't consider the other person or the other people as bad. So in that case, there's nothing wrong with us. We don't consider the other person or the other person if they're a couple or whatever. But there's something so strong in us, the pride of doing good to someone else, that puts us in a wild state.

When did you start getting together in your relationship? It took some time. We've been together for 9 years. It's our birthday on Saturday. Congratulations. Thank you. The first time we really went on a trip, it was maybe 4 years ago, we talked about it before and we went through many stages before this date. We went through... We really went through stages.

You talk about your kinks, then you do them. Once you've done your kinks, then we can go and look. Then we try this, then I like this. Real roleplay, I really like that. Real roleplay. What does real roleplay look like? Real roleplay is my boyfriend coming out of the apartment an hour later, he knocks on the door and it's like that, maybe two people you didn't know.

That's it. That's what I want. We go to the hotel, you take a room, we meet at the bar at that time. Pick me up. What does it look like? We want a context. I want to do the podcast so much, I just want her to talk to us about it. Well, a little bit like that. Fuck that. Because I keep thinking about our questions and I'm like, if we say that want to make the podcast so much better. I just want her to talk about us. Well, we can do that. Fuck that. Because I keep thinking about our guests.

And I'm like, if we say that's not the podcast, we're fucked. We're taking it out on you. Look at you. I feel so engaged. Absolutely. We're really engaged. Yes, but that's what's fun. It's discovering because it's... In a trip, there are forests, there are awkward moments, there are disappointments, there are lots of things to do.

So the first time you live that, you live it with someone else, with another person who has a whole range of emotions. It can be a lot to handle, but if it's just you and your chum, and the first time it's funny, obviously, you open the door, your chum is there, and he's like, hi, there's a name invented, a life invented, it's sure that one day you laugh, and you have to be strong, you have to stay in your character, you don't have to break, but it's sure that the first time, there are forests, there are things that tell you that you're like, hey, that's good, we're going to start over.

There are moments where what you learn, you discover, you get vulnerable. After years together, a year, you make the turn. So if I tell you, we're in a relationship and we do this, and we say, okay, let's go, we're doing a real role play. What you're going to bring me will lie to you. What you're going to invent, it's not going to be a waste. Because you think he's going to say something about a lack or... Whether it's conscious or unconscious, you're going to bring something that's going to talk about you. Because if I tell you, OK, let's do a roleplay.

The person you're going to decide to be, you didn't choose for nothing. Whether it's conscious or unconscious, you're going to have chosen this person, this character for a reason. Something that attracts you, something that intrigues you, something that you love. And you learn to connect with yourself and you learn to connect with the other person too. You know, in the first times we did roleplays, me and my boyfriend, sometimes we weren't at all in the same place. You know, like when we met, we had an idea, you know, everyone was on your side before it happened.

You have an idea, okay, my character is going to be this, I'm going to want this, this, this, this, this. And then when your partner arrives, oh, my character doesn't work with what he brings. So there, you understand? So it can either be, uh, or it can be, uh, uh. So there, at least it happened to me several times, as much to my husband as to myself,

to come up with an idea, but the idea of the other person is so attractive that suddenly you say, hey, Lyd, go ahead, bring me into your universe. And then you get lost in there, the money go ahead, bring me into your universe. And then you get scared in there, the moment you move forward, and you discover things yourself. And what's fun about being a character is that you can try things out, and after that, it's much easier to be in a character

and ask for something, than to try asking for something when you're yourself. Versus when you arrive and you're like, Erika, businesswoman, pilot, at the hotel, here just for one night, because I'm on a rush, I'm sad, and I'm a plane pilot, and I'm leaving tomorrow. We'll never see each other again.

Now, I'm getting to the bar, and that's my character. And then my husband comes, hi, hi, okay? A little bit like, am I open right away, or am I closed? Am I being worked on, or not? There's all this gap, and you can try so much, it's infinite, you can try so much, and by doing that, sometimes you'll come and be like, oh, well, you see the character, or don't you without it. There's always this gap. It's endless. You can try so hard.

And by doing that, sometimes you'll come across the character you don't like. I don't like that. Perfect. If we're on a trip with someone and the person plays the difficult part, I know I wouldn't like that. I did it with my chum before. So from the start, I'll cut.

I won't get involved in a stupid thing. You learn to know yourself, so when you arrive in a context with another human, you're lost. You know what you liked and what you didn't like. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be the same because you add a person, maybe it's going to add something different that you're going to like. So I'm going to do a roleplay with three people?

No. Well, it happens to do a roleplay, because we do roleplay, but the other person doesn't know. Okay. Well, it happens to do some roleplay, because we do some roleplay, but the other person doesn't know. Okay. It's beautiful. Well yes, why not? Well, since you've been famous, does it bother you a little? Because you're like, oh, I'm going to die. Since I've been famous, it's changed everything.

It's all cracked. It's all cracked. It's sure that being famous, it's changed a lot. I don't go to the exchange clubs anymore. Unfortunately. Oh yeah? Yeah. I can't. That's a shame. I can't. I'm not able to. Unfortunately. Oh, really? That's a shame.

I can't. I'm not capable. Well, there are some people who know who go. Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! There are some people who go, but I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not capable. I'm too scared to be recognized. Oh yes, sorry. I remembered the question.

I'm too scared to be recognized. Really. Ok, but let's say you scared to be recognized. Really. Okay, but let's say you would go to a masked party. Even there. Because I have too many tattoos. I still have... I don't know. I really have a blockage since then.

That was really my problem. Let's say you talk about it today openly. You know, you're saying crimes, you're talking about it openly. What would make you feel like it would create a blockage, that people could recognize you? By saying you're talking about it openly today, you know? Because I have no problem talking about my relationship, my sexuality, talking about it is fine, but sharing it with someone else

and not knowing what that person is going to do with the information. That's where... Because what I like a lot about it is the control that the two of us have, me and my boyfriend, in the situation. It's us who lead the situation, it's us who decide in which disposition we put ourselves, it's us who decide the situation, we decide in which way we are willing to go. We decide in which way. When you bring a third party, and that person has the capacity to take pictures, videos, tell stories, I don't know. I don't know what it can be.

But there are too many dangers and people with bad intentions so that it can exist. So you haven't do any trips either? It's not like we don't do any. To add someone to our relationship, it's not the most important trip. We go on a trip together, and it's fun. Is it a roleplay? Your favorite? Among so many other things. We're freaks.

Ok, I want many other things. You know? Yeah, we're freaks. But that's it. Okay, well, I want to know everything. I'm not going to say everything. Because right now, we need a little fire. I need ideas. I really want to do something new. With the baby routine and all that. So, give us ideas.

Well... Well, first of all... Do you talk about it with your... Well, your husband? Well, he listens to podcasts. It's good. My dream is to make a world play world. Okay. But do you talk about it? How does it... Because I'm fascinated by it.

We're going to have a service exchange. I'm fascinated by it all the time. Because my husband and I are fully open. Like, in the way we talk. That comes from the fact that when I was single, I said to myself I want 100% what I want or nothing. I didn't want to decrease

my expectations or my criteria to be with someone, just to be with someone. So the person I'm going to be with is really the person. And my room is the same. We were... I was very good when I was a single woman. I was a woman alone in my apartment,

with my money, my independence. I really didn't need anyone else, except for purely reasons, like if I wanted to be with you, I wanted to be with you. It wasn't like, I'm alone, I should go. I'm not dependent on anyone at all. And my husband was the same. So when we decided to get together,

there was something very real and raw. As if there was 1% of you who is not what I want. I'm all bitch. And we were both the same. So that keeps me where I live. And it makes me feel like if I want something, I'll tell you. If you don't want it, why don't you want it? And if you don't want it, what are the other options?

It's talking. I'm talking in the dialogue. He listens to the podcast, but did you already say that? Yes, yes, but it's because I didn't have... It's true that I never... Let's say, after the podcast, it's for sure that tonight I'm going to sit down and I'm going to say, baby, let's talk.

Because my child takes everything a little... Or it's a joke, a little like... And he's like... But I'm sure that if now I'm full sincere, he's going to maybe do like, OK, well, let's go. If that's really your wish, but at the same time... It's not my wish the most dear, but at the same time, I would like to try it.

Really. So I think he would be open to listen, to do it, to go there. I think so too, because we had already done a little one, but that's it, it's little ones. We had already done some kinds of... but not big ones. Not like all at once. That's what you said in Tavao. Me too. Like we're leaving and we're not in the same place and we're meeting at the restaurant at

the same time. And that, it seems like it's easier to put the character in in the character who just goes out the door and opens the door. And that, it seems like it's like... I said that when we were 7 weeks in the car. I said I would love it so much when we're on a date, when we don't prepare in the same place, when we point at each other and pretend we don't know each other. I said that like 3 days ago in the car.

Do it now. It's really nice. Where is he? He's going to be so good. He doesn't like... He's not in... No, I know. He's really nice. Do it! He's so good. He's not in... No, I'm just a little kid. You have to say that at the beginning, when you think about this idea,

it sounds like a lot. You hear that it's quite intimidating, and you think, are we really going to do this? But once you're in it, once the machine is gone, it's really easier than you think. It's like the first five minutes, it's really easier than you think. Well, that's for sure. It's like the first five minutes, like a show, it's like a podcast, the first five minutes,

we just adjust, we're like, hey! And then we're in. Like poppy play, it was like, it took after, after I left, I did the poppy play, and for real, I was a dog that year. I was really a dog. So, you know, I'm sure that, it's not my problem, but it's not mine.

But clearly, as you say, we have more conservative chums. Oh yeah, huh? Is he an actor too? Not at all, my chum is in construction. So he just gets on your trips, or are you the two trips that you... No, no, it's not just... It's him too. Him too. Not bad. Okay, can you tell us about a time when you were...

It's really remarkable, a roleplay that transformed you. Write it down. How was it? What did you do? I feel like you live through my story. Absolutely, that's what we do. What example can I give you that my genre won't kill me to tell here? We want to know everything! We need to be super money!

Please! Well, there's... Ok, so we did a roleplay I'm going to make you laugh We did a roleplay where I was a housewife Who worked for a man Married Married or not. It was not a point.

I was doing the cleaning at home. I was doing the cleaning at home. And the man came in the style of, I'm the cleaning lady who was supposed to be there when there was no one, but then my client comes. Okay. My client, who was a rich businessman, the man was dressed in a suit. He left. I started doing the cleaning.

And the man came home. Oh, you're there. I'm sorry. I started cleaning. My husband came home. Oh, you're here. I'm sorry. I didn't know you were going to be here today. Oh, no, I can go if you want. No, no, it's okay. You can go clean.

My husband just got here. It's changed. He's in the house. He's sitting in front of the TV. He's watching TV. He's listening to TV. He's up. I'm in the bathroom. I'm cleaning. I'm cleaning the bathroom. Hey, do you want to grab a glass of wine? I feel bad. You're working. And I'm at home. Hey, can you get me a glass of wine?

I feel sick. You're working and I'm at home. Oh no, it's okay, sir. Let's go. No, no, take a glass of wine. Okay. That's it. And you go and you hear, it's the company of my parents. I'm in my twenties. I'm at school. Really, all the way. That's all along.

Before they go out, do you know what role you're playing? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Okay, so this time, you just say, okay, I'm the maid, you're the man, and we're going to vote. Sometimes that's it. Sometimes it's... Sometimes it's something else. Sometimes it's like I said, it's... Sometimes it's something else. Sometimes it's like I said, it's...

Sometimes it's him who's like, Hey, I have an idea. Follow me. And then I'm going to go blind. That's exciting. When it's the other person who guides you, it's really exciting. And it's not even necessary to be as big as that. It can be just being guided. Has it happened to you before?

With your guy? Yes, it has come. But now you're guided by someone else, but it's your boyfriend. You're going to put him under your neck. I really like that. It's been a long time since we've known each other. You're going to be guided by someone else. Sometimes we're going to sleep together. Just me and him, I'm talking normally. And in the middle, boom!

Now I'm that person. You're listening to me. Live. Okay, we're not going to do that. You you started listening to me. Live. Oh, okay, we've talked about that. It was there, and it's happening. It's been maybe 10 minutes since we started, and we're me and him, and now it's a new one. Oh, I'm going to get caught in life.

Okay, so he brings it like he's like, he's just a new kid. He's gone. You have to stop, he's like, hey, it's a black dress that's in your room, we're going to put it on live. And it's on the edge of the window, maybe? And then, boom, he without a chance. You have to stop and be like, Hey, your little black dress that's in your room, go put it on. And it's on the edge of finishing, maybe? And then, boom, he grabs a bubble. And then, hang on, hang on tight.

Oh, yeah. Well, yes. But that's also the thing, it's that I'm lucky to have a partner who loves me a lot. Yeah, yeah. And I love her a lot too, actually. Well, you're lucky to have a partner like Zutko. We love each other, you know. And we love her a lot too. You're lucky to have a partner like that. We love each other. We love each other and we really desire each other.

So much that it's not enough to just be these two people. We have to desire each other elsewhere because it's so strong that... But I have the impression that... You say that, people will show that they don't desire each other enough. It's not that. Yes, it's really... We don't let ourselves the chance to do it. Because I'm convinced that everyone, as you say, after so many years, at some point, people who are looking for something, hey, we want to change the routine, we want to

make a crime, change people. It's not the same thing. Just be someone else. I tried all the toys, all the fucking cucumbers, all the fucking vegetables. Like, now, it's going to be a mess. Right now, I need something different. But the thing is, I think there's really a... There's a discomfort among people to show the presence of the routine. I think it's uncomfortable to say that to your partner.

Hey, we might be in a routine right now, or I need something else to do. And it's one thing to say it, and one, to receive it too, because maybe the other person isn't there for everything, maybe the other person is doing really well right now, and that she's sexually fine. And then you tell your partner,

hey, we're in a routine, or maybe you switch it up, because the person will take it badly. And it's another thing too, you shouldn't take it badly. On the contrary, saying that you want something else, it proves that I want it to work. I'm telling you, I want it to work, you don't have me anymore.

I want it to work, right now, I need something new. So it's to have an open mind, and a sincere desire to want... Me, if you're my partner, and you tell me, hey, right now, what do I want new? Hey, something new has to happen,

and it has to happen right away, because my partner wants something new live. You know? So it's a bit of this boiling fire that both of us have. So, you know, when I ask myself, when I say to people, it's been 10 years since we've been together,

they say, what's the secret? The secret is to never take for granted. Never. That's true. My boyfriend knows, and I know that too, that if I stop taking care of myself, he'll get away with it. I'm not with my husband

unconditionally. It's very conditional. And he knows that too. And that's what I want. Keep me on my toes. When I know that I'm at home, and I know that my husband is coming, and that I still have a disability at home. It doesn't work.

And he's the same thing. It's not just me. Wait, me too. The only thing is that you really have to make the difference between the moments. You have to take care of yourself for your partner. But taking care of yourself sometimes it's soft and being like, hey today I'm going to be able to relax. It's that it takes a balance of all that together,

which makes a perfect amalgam, but it's hard. And even us, it's not always perfect. It's just that you have to talk. Sometimes, it's... You have to say it. Often, it's, let's say, we're in the routine, whatever, and we don't even take the time for ourselves, so we take even less time for the other, clearly not.

But just to take evenings sometimes, to arrange and say, hey, look, I want you to... A text, a photo in the middle of the day, anything. It's just to always treat the relationship as if it was the beginning, in fact. And to say it. That's really important. And to get into other people's follies, what's the worst thing that could happen? Especially if it's just the two of them.

Because the worst things that could happen in a trip with other people, there are a lot of them. A lot. It can really break down quickly. And it can... You can get hurt quickly. And the other person can get hurt quickly. And you can quickly be in a bad zone. Because you say to yourself, Oh my God, they don't care about having fun, I don't have fun anymore, what do I do?

Do I break the moment? I want to try, but I'm afraid to hurt people's feelings. But you know how you do that? You don't go into someone else's life. You become someone else's, that's it. And if you don't like that, you do time out. I don't like that. That's it? Before letting someone in, be someone else.

Wow! Exactly! Why not? It's the best way because it's so... What's most appealing, let's say, in the first one, is not knowing, not knowing the new one. And it happens to me too, to look at my chum, to be like, you're so... It's me to watch my chum and be like, you're so... That's where I find him beautiful, attractive and sexy.

It's so valuable that I know him by heart. And I can't see him again for the first time. But it's not true, is it? No, that's it. I would need to see him them for the first time. Your boyfriend would be so good. I can imagine. I think he would be 100% sure he would be good. I just want to make a little comment because I have a lot of value that I know him by heart.

We understand each other because we don't want partners together. We wear all hats. We're co-parents. Exactly. I see him in everything. I see him getting into my nose, and rotting, and farting, and being like... Let me ask you a question. Let's say you were to do a real roleplay with your chum. Do you know which character he would bring? I'd like to... Not what you'd like to!

Do you know... If he were to choose your character, who would it be? A fucking pirate. Yeah, that's what we did once and it was a real pirate. A pirate? Wait a minute. He was full of romance. I didn't even want to say it. He didn't even want to say it in the evening.

It's like a romantic pirate. I don't even want to make love. He didn't even want to make love in the evenings. It's like a romantic pirate. I remember a little bit. I remember a little bit, it was quite the story, but he was really in the mood of I just want to arrive at the dock and you wear a beautiful dress. I'm just the pirate who saves you. If you were 20, it would be a really cute story. Yeah, romantic. Yeah, full of romance.

But what would you like? You were going to say it. Oh, well, that's because I'm listening to the series Tell Me Lies. Do you know what it is? No, you know what it is? I heard about it. Yeah, tell me some lies. Anyway. And in season 2, there's a English teacher.

An English teacher who sleeps with a student. Who has a degree. Yeah, but they're 20 years old. But it's not his student either. So if I can get in class and he's my teacher... I've already done it. Ah! Was it you, the teacher, or was it him? No, it was him. I'm really not dominant in the Lille.

With men. Oh, okay. How was it? The teacher? It was really fun. It was fun, but the thing is... Just do it. Why don't you do it? When he comes home, you're not the only one. Figure it out, bro. Liz, what could you do? I did a roleplay with my ex.

And he was crazy about roleplay kids. And I was on my bed, I waited for him to work, and I was studying, doing my studies. I was going to my little son, you know, to do my studies. And then he came to pick me up. But it's just the fact that, like, clearly, like she said, like, provoke him. You know, if... Like, he's going to to the boat, I'm sure he would. Instead of asking him, make the character, he will go.

And then he said, stop being a jerk, you will... What? Like, keep going. Don't get stuck. Yeah, and Amané will be like, ok, you want my little conic? Ok. I understand. But the thing is,

there's a part of me that wants it to be the other that wants to do it. But you have to start from the beginning. That's what I mean. And sometimes, in your head, you're like I would love that so much that... Because you can't read in your head. So sometimes you have to start it.

And that's when you're a couple and you're a partner. And a real partner. It should be like a teenager in a vehicle, to see the opportunity to please your partner. It should light up. And if it doesn't light up, well... Sorry, but... There's a bigger problem.

Have you ever had libido crows in all these years or has it never happened? Libido crows... I'm scared, yeah. No, I wouldn't say libido crows, no. I would say maybe... How can I explain that? Sometimes it's like, hey, we're going back to the roots. Sometimes you're like, hey, maybe it's been a while

since sexuality has always been in fantasy or has always been in something else. Now we have to find it. That's super important too. Because it's so good. Sometimes you'll discover something so good that you always want to do it. But you shouldn't do that.

OK, what else did you have? Oh, but we just, in general, we both like it a lot. So when we discover something new, it's kind of a reflex to do it. We always want to do it because it's... But sometimes it's important. Just a normal evening kiss. And you shouldn't let it disappear. I'm always like, hey, we always want to do this, because it's... But sometimes it's important, just a kiss, normally the night before, you know?

And that, it shouldn't disappear, because if it stays too much in the fantasy, or if you go too deep into the king and all that, and you don't come back to the main word that made it exist, then that will become too much of the focus and you will lose the word afterwards. But all that comes from just fact that you just communicate, communicate with a real desire to please the other person. But it's hard to find. It sounds like it was easy for me and that it was clear,

but it's really not easy. And it happened because the two of us said to each other, I want this, and I want nothing below. But it's hard to keep that. It's hard to... Sometimes you meet someone who is almost what you want. Who isn't necessarily what you want. But you say, it's maybe the closest thing I'll find, so I'll do it with.

Sometimes it's just little problems here and there. But who block this expansion. I know, I have a question. I wasn't finished with the scenario of the women of the house. Oh yes! Oh no, but that's it. It was just the... Let's say you were in the bathroom.

Yes. And then you... If I was in there, you know. I was in the bathroom. So you were offered a glass of wine. Yes. And then you took a glass of wine. Yes, I took the glass of wine.

Like in a shy mode. I was supposed to work. I was supposed to talk to make wine. And then you learned how to make wine. Yes, I learned how to make wine. I was embarrassed, I was supposed to work, I was supposed to talk to the client. I was like, it's beautiful, I didn't know you were going to move in. Oh yes, it's beautiful, I'm going to move in. And then you get in. And then, as I said, it's just to continue to discover that. And what's your name? What's your name?

Oh, you're really beautiful. And I remember that in what I had done, I had put on like little shirts, little t-shirts, you know. And there was the aspect where, hey, I wouldn't have dressed like that if the client was there. It's just because the client wasn't there,

I put on my jacket, you know. Oh, that's such a good idea. Like, oh, I'm sorry, sir. Oh, I'm going to put on my leggings. And I go back, even my leggings, dressed like, more... And then, well, no, we're not doing that. Oh yes. Did'm going to put my leggings back on. I go back, put my leggings on, dress up like... more... more...

No, we're not doing that. Oh, yeah? Did you have to straighten your hair underneath? Well, yes, I just put a button on it. Put your buttons on. But it's long, so let's put it on. It's fucking long. It's for sure.

I have the impression that it will last like 10 minutes, because he's going to be so excited, he's going to want to fuck me. Oh no, but yes, at the beginning, that's what happens. At the beginning, that's what happens. At the beginning that's what happens. Even for... well yes, at the beginning it's like you get to the climax really quickly. But by force of doing it, and by force of... and as I said,

it's been 10 years since we've been together, what I'm telling you, it didn't happen overnight, it was a build up, and at the beginning we laughed, we thought it was funny, we thought it was stupid, we thought it was stupid, or... it's hard to keep your seriousness during all this time, and to... At the beginning we laughed, we thought it was funny, we thought it was stupid, we thought it was nasty. It's hard to keep your seriousness during all this time. And when someone breaks, the other person doesn't have to break.

Sometimes it happened that I broke and I was like, wait, it doesn't work. I don't understand what you're saying. And then you're like, ok, he's not going to give me that, he's not going to break with me, so you have to get back into it. And sometimes it's him who breaks, or just like, I want too much. And then you're like, no, I'm not going to do that. And then he's like, okay, I have to work again to have it. That's it, you have to commit to the beat. But it's good because it makes the excitement go up.

It's hot. Or... Yeah, or... You know, both of us are like... Climax, well, it's in your favor. And it happened sometimes that it was just too good. And that... It's often me who comes first. But...

Like... It's too good. And then I jump on it. And then it's like... And do you refuse you? When they refuse me, and I keep going, and I keep going, sometimes it turns into, Oh, you like that at this point, my big question, and you don't want to continue?

I was shocked to not have respected the whole roleplay. And now we're back. But now you got me out of my business, I'm pissed. You understand? Okay, you're in the BDSM and everything. Not necessarily. No, BDSM, I'm not full BDS Okay, you're in the BDSM and everything. Not necessarily. No, BDSM, I'm not full BDSM, but it's... sometimes it was like that. It was like, I was like, okay, no, fuck that, fuck that, fuck that, I don't want to be in the... I'm too excited, it's too exciting.

Oh, you're excited at this point? Perfect. Okay, let's do the roleplay. But now you're going to go to the bedroom. And you're so excited, well, touch yourself, go ahead, I'm looking at you. Go ahead. You don't want to do the roleplay in place? Go ahead, you want to touch yourself, go ahead.

Then I'm going to touch you, and then I said, let's go, let's go. No. It's boring. You'll hear. It's... But it's to commit to... But like I said, at first, it's not that. At first, it was super short.

Sometimes it was like, it wasn't long. So now we have... I rented a massage table that you can bring home. Oh, damn. It's a commit. Wow. She rented it like! They're coming. Wow. She rented it like it's not good. But because, and that, I think it's one of the good ones

with which to start, the massage. Oh yes, huh? Isn't that what Fred had done? Yes, I was a masseur. Yes, that's it. I was a masseur. Ah well, there's also the plombie and everything she did, and everything, and that had a broken pipe.

But I have to admit that my sister, my sister, it's easier. Because, yeah, it's like, you don't have to look at them in the eyes anymore. I think it's the best place to start. It's the massage. Yeah, it's the massage. Was it you or him? Both happened. Yeah, both happened.

But you know, like, really, because at the beginning, you know, you do it at home, in your environment, in your house. Sometimes it's hard to get away from it. As you said earlier, it's better to go to another place because it allows you to get away. But doing it in public is another level. Because even if everyone around you doesn't care and nobody knows you're doing it, you feel very exposed and you feel like everybody knows, but nobody knows. But that's why it's good to start at home, or rent a hotel room, or something like that.

We had rented a legit massage table. There are plenty of massage salons that rent their massage tables. And it was really a table, like in a spa. And we installed it in our room. And you get a massage at home. And okay. And at first, it's not sexual, because I paid you to get a massage. You massage the person, and it's degenerative.

You can choose the story you want. If you're like the masseur who's a little too touchy, if you... We had a wedding that was... My boyfriend was massaging himself, but his wife was the one who engaged me. And his wife wasn't there. That's the hard part.

Or it could be one where you're massaging yourself, but his wife is underneath and he's really massaging you. That's what you'd like. You're like, I can't do it, I'm going to do it too loud. It's too lot of work. Yes, but it's just about feeding the good things. You're in a good place, not necessarily.

Because when you stop to think about it, there are endless possibilities. It's just that because of porn, because of a lot of things, we have stories in our heads that are designed because we say to ourselves, give yourself the right to live, to imagine, scroll through porn sites, look what exists. Go to forums, read the kings of others. Go, go, go in search. It's not, we have the impression that sexual awakening is something that happens naturally. No, not at all.

Do you know that kinks are hereditary? What? Is that true? The kinks you have are probably the same kinks your parents have. It's fucked up. Let's see. Yes, there is something to be born in us. There are pre-existing things, but it can't just be that.

You have to explore it. It's fucked up. It's fucked up, but it shows how normal it is. Who said that? It's science. Science, okay. Google it. I will. I didn't finish with you, Erica.

I mean, we're obviously going to invite you. Part 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I was so excited to read the stories. We're excited to listen to the others. Yeah, that's right. We'll talk about it on Patreon. Because we already that's right. We'll talk about it in the afternoon on Patreon. Because we already have an hour to go. Oh, well, we'll talk about it on Patreon.

But before... Have you ever done gynecology? Gynecology? Gynecologist? I thought you were going to ask before, where can we find you? No, no. Have you ever done gynecology? Have you ever done that?

No, we've never done it. I'd like you to do it and then you can talk to me about it. Perfect. Do you want to do Twig on Luke? No, but I'd like to do it. Well, you can do it on Amazon. You put your little feet in the cracks. Yeah. And then you're like...

I'm not going to stop an exam, but... I wouldn't be interested. No, no, no, no. Wait, it's because he's starting to do his exam, but then you realize that... There's no need to go back and forth. And then what's he rubbing? You start like, hot.

Yeah. And he's not supposed to be long. And then, there's no gloves. Why is there no gloves? I love it. It's hot. It's crazy because it's as much problematic as it is... It's like, you're like, oh, it's problematic. That's what's hot, that's what fantasies are. You have to say it's Louis.

It's Louis. Well, it's not Louis. Exactly. But the thing is, there's a lot of things in this universe that are, as you'll say, problematic. But there's a difference between fantasies and... Yes, fantasy and reality. Yes, but even... Do you know why you have that fantasy?

Where does it come from? What motivates it? For example, me and my kings are often... Motivation is often the loss of control. I'm a person who is very in control in his life in general. I'm very independent, I'm a strong woman, I'm above my business, I have a big personality. So losing control, for me it's super nice. It's good. It's good to lose control and to no longer be the person who...

I'm caught in the game. I'm never caught in life. I'm the kind of person who will talk, if you don't do my business, I'll tell you. I'm not a very good victim. It's fun to become a victim in a frame. Or you can be. And the consensual, non-consensual, for example. The fantasy of rape is one of the first fantasies that women have. Have you ever done the fantasy with your own kind of rape scenario?

Not really. It's more like... It's more like the loss of control. Let's say the arrears at the beginning. Yeah. That, you know, yes. But like... It's never been a full on... No, I don't want to. Yeah.

But like I said, there's so much to discover, and so much to... And then you have to keep a safe world, because you're playing the role of rape, but you're really not in it for real. So you're like... Ananam, ananam. Yeah, ananam, you mean. If I say ananam, it's because the game is over. So I think it's important too. And what I also find a little weird about all this is...

There are people like you who find it super hot and who want all the stories and all the details. I find it hot. But on the other hand, there is a whole side of, are we going to be judged for that? Because there are people who really judge that, who are really dumb and who find it freaky. And I can tell you that it was a bit of a fear. I talked to my boyfriend about coming to your podcast before coming, because obviously, saying we're together, if I'm talking about sexual experience, it's clearly him I'm talking about.

And like I said earlier, you're still popular in construction, girls. I don't know if you know, there are a lot of guys from construction who listen to you on the construction sites. Hi, the boys! So somewhere, or even friends... Ah, tomato sauce, my voice. Friends, there's people who are going to watch this podcast and they're going to discover things about me and my job that they didn't know. Things like that. I have something that is very important and fundamental in all of this.

I wasn't a co-chamber before my job. I was a co-chamber at some point. Now with some back up, I think. It's like the love and attraction I have for this guy has lit up everything in me. It's like I want to be the ultimate horror for him. Not just in general, but that's what people don't understand. Often people will, like I said, after shows, people will be like, Erica, big sexy vibe, you're a dick, she's willing, she's in general. And that's what people don't understand. It's that people often, as I said, after shows, people are like, oh, he's got a big sex vibe,

he's a dick, he's willing, etc. But no, not with the others. He's the one who woke me up. Really. And it translates to other people in trips. And that's what allows you to... Because, like you said earlier, you said you have a part of your life

where you consumed a lot, you drank and you did trips. So, somewhere, it was a bit in the void of motivation. But to have a person in your life who loves you, and you seem to be in love, and you seem to be really fusion and it's worth your business. You should use that as motivation. Because before, it wasn't that. so you associate those things with that. But to be able to love what you loved before, you have to find a new reason why you love that. And your partner can be a good reason. I want to be you when I grow up.

No! I'm horny. That's what I want to leave as a... No, but it's weird that it happens to me. Oh yeah? There are episodes where I'm like, you know, I keep my legs tight so that there's not a river on my... my... my... needed that for... I think you're more inspiring than Barack Obama. I really think you have the best speeches.

And you didn't send drones. Yeah, sorry, but I don't know much about Barack Obama. I said that, but it could have been... John Lennon. John Lennon, but now John Lennon seems to... Yeah, that's it. So finally, look... I'm just inspiring.

You're just inspiring more than. Yeah, that's it. So, finally, look... I'm just inspired. You're just inspired more than many people. But... You know? That's it. No, but all of that comes from the fact that I got into a situation where I could be myself. That's really just it.

And you're going quietly, as you said. It started quietly. Well, look, I put a challenge on us, Liz. Gang, you listen to us, everyone listen to us, that we have to try a first role play. I think you're going to change the sex life of couples in Quebec. I'm ready to say that. I'd like that.

And as I said, don't talk around the table, hello, here's what I'd like. No, do that tonight when you're stuck, you listen to your show. Put your hand on the cover, start to flatter it, and say, what did I think today? I would like to see what I would like to see. No, do that in the evening when you're stuck, you're listening to your show. You open the lid, start to flirt, and say, what did I think today? Say it like that, don't say it like...

There, we should talk. Go into the bathroom and sleep, and no, no, no, wait until it's calm. Sometimes just before you fall asleep, when you're in sleep, you're like between reality and sleep, you whisper in your ear, I'll learn that in another week. Oh, now it stops. It gives chills in the back.

And then you think back to the end. And you're like, oh, it excites me. I do it. No, no, I think back to the beginning. Just saying. Do you set limits? You make yourself at home. Anticipation and agony are much better than action. Ok, I'm already... You're talking and I'm just imagining

how I'm going to bring this, what I'm going to say, what I'm going to do. Well, you say, we're going to give you a challenge. I'm thinking about my partner. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm going to have an update. We're going to have an update.

I'd like you to give me an update. You write to me. When you tell me you don't need it, I feel like in my case, if I talk about it, he's just going to... You're just going to do it. I'm not going to break it. You're going to continue until he's done.

I'm not going to break it. You really shouldn't start with too much... A demicidal massage. You shouldn't start with too much... A massage with a demicil. You shouldn't put the person either. You have to start small. And sometimes we say to ourselves, I want this so much. But sometimes to get to that, it's just five good sessions where you can move forward, move forward, move forward. And there's something fucking awesome about wanting more,

but not being able to have access to that. To have to wait. And to have to... Is there a game of yours that gets boring the first time you do a roleplay? Like, you're so angry that it doesn't have the same effect as the first roleplays? No. No? No.

No, because what she says is endless. It's true, because you always have to find new character ideas. Sometimes it happens that it's in the middle of the day and my boyfriend is at work, or I'm at work, whatever, and my boyfriend calls me and he's like, hey, I have an idea. Or you know, you do a roleplay, and once you do it, let's say the next day, the next day, you think about what you did, and you're like,

oh, at this point I could have said that. Oh, at this point I could have done that. And then it's like the same roleplay evolves. You know, like we have scenarios that we've done since the beginning, since the first time we started doing it, which still exists today, but which are now the 2.7 version of the thing we did at the beginning. And now you can also learn what the other person likes and take it by surprise.

Sometimes you do one scenario and you learn what to do if you jump and you hit it in the head or you hit your head. And then in another scenario, you bring back the same pattern a little bit, and the person doesn't expect it, and then he feels excited because of a pattern that you brought. It's really complex, but it's really fun. I'll talk about it for hours. You have to go on Patreon. You have to go on Patreon. Go on Patreon. Erika, you're amazing. Thank you.

Thank you. We would have had a chance if we hadn't talked about the podcast today. We would have missed everything you would have told us. We're going to read your best dates on Patreon. Or say another scenario. Okay, we'll do that another time. Yes, we'll do that another time. I want you to tell us the scenarios that come back.

But it's private, it's private, that one, Patreon. But wait, before we go on Patreon, do you have things in your life that you're currently working on? Like something... I don't know when it's coming out, but I'm going to release my hour at the beginning of the year. At the beginning of the year, it should officially be released around mid-December, so I don't know if we're going to release it here. But whatever. You'll see that on my social media, Instagram is the best place, but yes, I should release my hour, which until now is called the trial room. Not sure if it will change.

A little exception, I haven't said anything yet. Sex exclusion. It might already be said that it's coming out now. Maybe, but if it succeeds the first time, I would have said it. But yes, I'm releasing my first hour next year. Season 2 of After the Deluge, which will also be released at the beginning of the year. I'm not hard to find. So just go to my Instagram.

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