Sexe Oral - Les drogues du viol avec Marie-Ève Tremblay

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

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It's really interesting, during a beautiful hour, we have the privilege to chat with her, to discuss all of this, and it was really very very very interesting. It deconstructed a lot of things we imagined about Les Drogues du viol. Yes, I didn't think there were that many. And she tells stories, stories of people who have suffered from it. And it's it's a reflection. So it's a very important podcast

to listen to for everyone. To make people listen if you have people in your entourage, share it. It's very important. It demystifies a lot of things because it's easy to say ok, but why don't they do this? Why don't they do that? Well, you know, it gives a bigger portrait of what it really is and what some things can imply.

It's closer than we think. There are really a lot of people, so for real, just a good podcast. And thank you again Marie-Ève for giving us this beautiful hour. And we encourage you to go listen to the documentary again on ici tout.tv. Thank you. Hello! Hello Marie-Eve, thank you for being here. It's very nice to have you here.

Thank you. So, we're going to learn a little bit about you. You are a journalist on the radio? Yes, I'm a radio host. I also have a journalist training. But right now, it's daily, every day, at 98.5 in Montreal. Otherwise, I also do radio broadcast shows occasionally, and documentaries too. On TV. And the documentary that you...

Has it just been released? Yes, it was broadcast on Radio-Canada's TV last December, and then it was available on Tout.TV. It's still a documentary on drug abuse, which is my last one that I did with K.O.TV. Yeah, for Radio-Canada.

It's really interesting. It's really good. Thank you. I was like, at first I thought it was short, but then I realized it was long. It's really interesting and you're really good. What is it? One hour? Yes, it's a few minutes less, because there are ads in the TV format.

We can say it's about an hour, but I would have had content to make a full series. We have hours and hours of interviews, testimonials, specialists. It was difficult to make choices because there is so much to say about this subject. But I think that in the end, the result is that we learn what we have to learn. And I learned a lot, so I thought, well, everyone needs to know that, what's around this phenomenon. Can you tell us, at the base, what is the famous...

It's been a while since there's been research on this, but what is the drug of rape? What do people use it for? I know, GHB, in the show, you know what you're saying, it's become a recreational drug. Especially a recreational drug. But that's what's crazy, and the title of the documentary is It's a big, recreative drug. Especially a recreative drug. Yeah. But that's what's crazy. And the title of the documentary is

Violent Drugs, in the plural. Why in the plural? Because we always thought that there was the Violent Drugs, that it was the GHB, the kind of liquid that we put at the end of someone's glass, that tastes nothing, that smells nothing, and then, well, we take that, and automatically, you take that, you're going to get raped

or sexually assaulted. It exists, it's certain, it's not for nothing that we say, GHB is a drug of rape, but it's a drug of rape. It came to the radio, actually, I started doing chronicles on that subject. There were people, especially women, who testified, who said, you know, I have a friend who was drugged in a bar, and how does it work?

There's nothing around to frame it. And then I start talking about it. I bring the testimonies in waves. And then a girl contacts me, tells me she works in the field. She says, Marie-Eve, it's not just one drug. There are like over 200 substances that can be used to drug someone with their own income.

200? That's it. What? Okay. And then things like free shipping. We're talking about Xanax, Somnifera. There's also ketamine that's used. And I tried to have the list of drugs that are used,

and we don't want to provide it to people so we don't give people ideas. By saying, well, use this thing, you can come to your senses to attack someone. But just that, it really surprised me. Okay, GHB, because there are 16 drugs, I don't know if you saw it, sometimes, you know, hundreds of thousands of doses in garages in Montréal, I said to myself, let's see, it's not hundreds of thousands of doses intended to rape women, you know, it's almost impossible. So that's why now we're talking about

chemical submission agents. We're trying to put aside the title, the expression of rape drugs, because chemical submission agents, it encompasses the phenomenon more. And it's also not just to rape that these drugs are used against people. That also really surprised me in my research.

There are people who get drugged to get stolen. This is the case of a guy who was from the LGBTQ community, who was in the village, who was in a party and all that. He woke up in blood at the early morning. There was nothing on him. He was convinced that he had been drugged, and realized that he had been stolen, that his car had been stolen. So, you know, these are substances.

They can be used, too, it's crazy, just to approach someone in the sense, hey, I don't want to protect anyone, you know, you understand what I mean? I don't want to excuse gestures. On the contrary. But a guy who can be shy, there's a girl who's interested in him, I don't know, from her court in the CG, and she says, maybe if I put a little bit of that, she'll be more easily approachable, more relaxed,

the contact will be easier. So the goal is not necessarily to rape, but it's still a criminal act. Regardless of the objective, it's a crime to put something in the consumption of someone else without them knowing it. So that's what's pretty crazy. And also, I was talking about the 200 substances, what stands out a lot is that the first drug of rape is alcohol. No doubt.

You had no doubt? Why is that? Because I think of all the things I did when I drank, and I wouldn't have done three quarters of it three quarters of the way. Now that I'm sober today. I understand. It removes inhibitions. Just that. Me too. Sexual things that I wouldn't do on time, that I do 100%.

It didn't affect me negatively. But the next day, you say, «Hm, I don't know, it's intense, huh?» But you can't give alcohol to someone after that, for example? Well, that's something else I learned, yes. In fact, well, after someone, it can be to inflate alcohol parts in consumption. For example, you're at the bar, you drink tonic gin,

and then someone says, OK, I'm going to get your tonic gin. But instead of having, for example, an 11 alcohol, you have to put a double, a triple in it. And often, we take strong alcohol, like that, André, we go, oh, it tastes like alcohol, but you know, what is the real quantity that has to be mixed with the tonic? You don't necessarily know.

So there are people who arrive at the end of a party and they totally lose their mind, and they say, but I just drank three bottles. How does that make me in that state? I know that you drank nine, you drank several. So that can happen too. You have no idea of the amount of alcohol you drank. Another way, but it's not totally someone's instinct, but it's to encourage to drink.

You know, someone who has a target, we are a gang of susceptors and they constantly pay shooters. Hey, come on, let's take some shooters. You know, to encourage to drink. Yes, yes, yes. It's like, and then they're cool, they're fun, and then you want to have fun with them, so you know, you get in the tournament, you don't want to. It's like influencing someone to drink, in the fun.

And then at the end of the day, shooters come in. Yes, and then there's a lot of guilt with people who got it because of alcohol, because I took them, the consumption. It's my fault, it's my fault. It's always that. It's my fault to be able to hold on to it. Exactly, it was my job to watch over myself, to control the person.

You can't imagine that someone would voluntarily put you in a state like that, because what's crazy, again, how many times have I said that it's crazy for five minutes? I know. Quite a few times. I really didn't notice. I'm not sure if it's crazy, but I lost my idea. What's crazy about consumption? Like, at the bar. The... Well, I really have a question. Ok, I have a question from the bar, it's all in English. What are the...

Let's say that there is a new statistics since 2023, that says it's really overwhelming. We're starting to get statistics. What are the most popular drugs used to, let's say, to lie down with someone, with this person? Is it still GHB? For the moment, the police, it's really, it's ultra recent. There have been these waves of denunciations on social media, it's sure that you saw them in 2023,

and it puts pressure on the government because it's like, how does it work? Nothing happens. It shook the cabin. So they decided to put in place pipes in emergencies. Now you're supposed to be able to present in any emergency in Quebec.

If you think you've been drugged, you ask to pass the pipe. It's a little urine test. You do that over there. You're not supposed to wait either. It's supposed to be quick. Then after that, if they find the drug in your sample, it's back, it's the police who contact you and say, well, we found the drug since we're opening an investigation.

That was put in place in December 2023, so it's been a year since it's been in place, and people are starting to learn about the existence of these drugs. So we're starting to see data. We were talking when I finished last summer the documentary production of a little more than 140 people, you know, where we had detected drugs in the samples. What was told to me is that there was none that contained GHB. Oh yeah! Yeah, maybe it changed when we talked, but it shows how much it's the main drug that

can be used. There are other things. And also, GHB, the thing is that it's treatment, and that's why it's the privileged drug for, unfortunately, to assault or rape someone, is that it disappears extremely quickly from the body. That is to say that it makes a bang like that, 20-30 minutes after having consumed it. It's an overdose in most cases. So right away, by knowledge, there can be complications.

It's extremely dangerous, we can talk about it. But that's it, it happens quickly. And in space, it's like between 6-12 hours, 10 hours, that it completely evac out of the body. So, you, as long as you take your mind back, that, hey, something wrong happened, I was drugged to my own will, even if I wasn't raped or whatever, you have to be quickly in the emergency,

and you know, it's really, it's in the hours that follow. So it's possible that there are people, GHB cases that have been escaped, because's the drug of the vile par excellence. The people who use this know very well that it leaves little trace. Are there many among the 140, are there many that say it was negative? No, it's 140 people found it. Oh, they found it? I would like to see it again, but it's a little over a hundred.

It's everywhere in Quebec. In the open investigations, I had the police service of the city of Montreal, we talked about about thirty. And there are some who decide not to file a complaint, even if we find drugs in the samples. It also happens, indeed, I don't have a number to give people who had nothing, but yes, it happens. So in that case, it can be alcohol too. There can be all kinds of factors that make someone feel like they were drugged, that they lost their card.

It can also be, precisely, having less less food, to be tired and all that. But it's for sure that we're trying to evacuate that because already the people who are suffering feel extremely shameful, you know? And then it's like, to be told that it's because you haven't eaten enough, because you've drunk too much, it's really insulting. So you know, it's... People know each other mostly quite well. And all the victims I interviewed, and there are a lot of them, they were all certain that something had happened. What? They didn't know, but they were certain.

So even if we can't find anything, doesn't that mean that there was no GHB or that it had disappeared and all that? But it's for sure that it happens. There are cases where you think something happened, and then unfortunately you can't say that there was no GHB, that it had disappeared and all that. But it's for sure that it happens. There are cases where you think something happened and then, unfortunately, you find nothing. In Australia, it's 500 substances that are tested. Here in Quebec, it's 200. Are there other substances that are used? If we don't test it, maybe it's the case.

So it's hard to know. That's really what's at the heart of this story. There's practically no or little data, statistics, everyone turned to them saying, OK, well, how many cases are there in hospitals? There was nothing to check, like suspected cases of involuntary intoxication or... Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's really where it's happening. Because there is, and that's what's maybe beautiful in history, that there are people who have decided to talk. And I was going to say, women, a lot of women, but men too. At the radio, every time I talk about it, I've talked about it a lot, there are always guys, we have the messaging, we people intervene as in direct, so you see the people who comment as you go, and it's always like, it happens to us too, to the guys, we have the messaging. We, people, intervene live, so you see the people who comment, as you go, and it always happens to us,

to the guys, maybe sometimes for other reasons, it can also be for aggressions. But it's not a problem that is exclusively feminine. But mostly, anyway. Yes, much more. Well, you know, there's no statistics, but in light of the testimonies that I see, and since the documentary came out, I have dozens and dozens of them.

You know, you talk about taboo games. It's for sure that there are people who have to trust you. Often, you know, very, very intimate stories. Well, that's what happens to me with this subject. And I would say that it's about 90% of women, but there's still a 10% of men. It must be 100% of men who do that, even men. Ah, who drug others. That's something I wanted to talk to someone who had already done that.

My father and his brother, it's my father and his brother, it's a lady. They've already done that? No, they've already done that by a lady. Oh yeah? Yeah. And they woke up at night,, they didn't know much. My father said, look, I should contact you. Because he told me that really quickly.

I've had stories like that. This week, I was like, but dad, did you call the police? He said no, he was a teenager. He was a teenager. And it was a woman. And he says that some people think that... Maybe he wrote me. Maybe, maybe.

It's a similar story. It's about someone who was a woman older. And in youth, because that's also what's special, stories that come from all generations. It's really not a new problem. No, it's for sure. Women 70 years old, no, it's true. 70 years old women who say, hey, it's good for me to see that...

I lived with it, I never told anyone. And now I see that it's much more widespread than I thought. So people, you know, seniors, young adults, all ages. It's completely crazy. And otherwise, you know, what you were saying, Lisanne, those who do that, are there women who do it? You know, there may be stories like that, but I have the impression that it's still a gesture that is posed, which is perhaps more on the male side. If we just calculate the number of testimonies we have of victims who are women,

it comes from the opposite sex. I tried to talk to someone who had already done it, and I wanted to do it without judgment. I just wanted to understand. And maybe you regret it, I hope you regret it. If he doesn't regret it Feign told you that, it's hard to hear. With stars in her eyes. She did it.

Success, it worked. I would have listened to her anyway. I understand. What's going on in your head, between your two legs, to decide to do that? What is the motivation? And how do you feel? Even if there has not been aggression, are you aware that it is criminal? But no one answered my call, no one is going to raise their hand to say that they have already done this. And we know

that there are. There was the trial in France, Pelico, the rape of Mazan, he drugged his wife, who was made to pass on the body by dozens of men. That's it, there are so many of them. You just put a little bit of Xantax in your wife's business, who doesn't want to love anymore. She was a somnifer, huh? Somnifer, Xantax, they have couples, really, no matter, you can do whatever, but they do that to their partner from time to time.

You know, chemical submission is taking control of someone else. That's right. So there are several ways to take control of someone. Yes, of course, we immediately think of sexual assault, but there may be other options. You can want to do something else. But it's the idea of taking control of someone else. So yes, in mixed contexts, that's for sure.

In the case of the rape of Mazin in France, it was really a kind of trip where it was men who were part of a kind of trip where it was men who were part of a network that was going to rape the woman of that man who was drugging her. So it wasn't him who was raping his wife. It was people who were making the wire to rape his wife who had been drugged. It's terrible, terrible, terrible. I'm talking about it. Have you seen it happen? No. It's huge, I don't remember. It's crazy.

It's pretty big. It was 35 years ago that she was married. Gisèle Pellicot. Did she know the next day? She didn't realize. How did she find out? The husband was caught in a supermarket, a grocery store, or whatever, filming under the skirts of the girls. They caught him on security cameras, they took him to the police.

And I think they watched... Because there were videos of those rapes. Yes, they watched those videos and saw videos. So they understood that there was something strange about his wife. They brought his wife to the post office and they announced your husband. So she learned that it's been like ten years since he... It's not true. ... that he was filming violent people.

It goes up to 90, like a 90. And there are a lot of people who learn a lot. In the cases where we manage to catch these people, there are women... And that's a big ethical dilemma, because there are women who don't know it happened to them. But the police are watching videos. So try to trace these women. But if the woman doesn't know that it happened to her,

is it better to continue her life like that without having that event in mind? I have the impression that it's always better to know because... Yes, it's better to know, that's it. And to learn about this trauma and... I'm convinced that the body has a memory, that she doesn't know it, but that there's something in it that's no longer aware. I have the feeling that it's always better to know.

It's so common, let's say, children who were abused before they have a memory, and that years later, adults... Let's say, we were maybe abused when we were in bed, we never knew. You know what I mean? There's that, but maybe in your body there's something that... A reaction. That's for sure. Yes, yes. I'd like to know that anyway. But I don't want to do it.

It's a big, big dilemma. We didn't really integrate it because we had so much stock, but it happens. These crimes are often filmed. We're really talking about rape, sexual assault. And often, it's a story of the vice. They do it several times. It's the kind of trophy that becomes a trophy, the video, you know, it's like... If, the other time we talked about another podcast, just to make a little parenthesis, to call people,

if there are some who have had things like that, or whatever, you can go report it to the police without complaining. If, let's say, you don't want to complain or whatever, for x reasons, you're not ready, you can still report it because that's the most important thing, because tell yourself that the person, if she did it to you, you're not the first, you're not ready. You can still report it because that's the most important thing. Because tell yourself that if the person did it to you, you're not the first, you're not the last. So you can really save a lot of people. So reporting a complaint is the ideal, of course. But if you're not ready to report it to the police, it's really...

That means that the next person who will file a complaint be charged will be added to their case. Yes, and it's also that they are able to determine operating modules. Because, for example, you don't want to be charged, it happens to you, but you decide to go and report. You will tell what happened, how it happened and everything. So there, the investigators can have like another person who arrives who decides to be charged, another. It happened to Gatineau in a specific case. Wow! You know, two investigators talking. Of cases they had separately.

It seems like that. So they joined the files, they realized it was the same person. Then they made a public appeal to say, listen, here's someone who does this. And then they received like, listen, it's more than 10 testimonies. then they received like, I don't know, more than ten testimonials. But it's not everyone who went to class, who had a lot of testimonials.

After that, it's up to each one. But it's so important, as you say, to denounce, to go see the police. After that, you decide what you do. But, you know, we keep saying that there are no statistics and all that. We can be afraid of how we're going to be received, but it gets a lot better, you know, with everything that has been put in place, even specialized courts and everything. I think we want, as a society, to make space safe, you know,

for people who think they have been attacked. It's also a drug-related aggression to its own core, even if you haven't been physically assaulted. So, we say we want statistics, but we have our way, our way to go too, that is to say, go and say it, even if it requires effort, even if it's difficult. And, you know, the policemen I interviewed said, you know, because we... And I can imagine in the... in the heads of those women who say, I'm not going to go because, anyway, nothing will happen.

They're not going to do anything, they won't be able to stop her. The cameras, it doesn't really work. Are we really going to see it? There's no proof, there's nothing. And you know what one of the investigators said who worked on this big collar in Gatineau? Well, it's because the starting point is to come and see us. It's for sure that if we don't come and see us, we won't be able to do anything, but it's wrong to say that we're not able to stop them. We're able to do it. It takes time, it takes

a lot of work, but you know, we're getting there, and I think that more people will be arrested, recognized guilty for these actions. For me, it will seem easy. Because if there are so many, it's probably because, hey, it's easy, I wouldn't have to take it. In the end, people either don't complain, or the investigators don't do their... You know, that's why all together, yes, there are the holes in the hospitals,

there are all kinds of initiatives in bars to protect themselves, which are also criticized in some ways. Like what? Green blankets. Why are they criticized? It was a campaign, Check your glass, from Quebec Public Security. And there, they were walking around, they had made a kind of campaign of sensitization, they were walking around in bars and they had produced green blankets.

So you put that on your drink when you're at the bar with a straw. Which means that no one has access to put a substance in it. But the main criticism was to say, well, it's because we to take responsibility for potential victims. Why do victims have to protect themselves? Why don't we take responsibility for those who do these things? Why is it still the person? The kind that we can't...

There will always be bad guys. That's the thing. We can never take them away. There are bad guys and there will have any bad guys. Well, that's the thing. We'll never be able to get rid of the bad guys. There are some, and there will always be some. I think green is a good way to educate young girls. My daughter, it's clear that I have one at home. I got it from my favorite bar. And I'm going to give it to them.

It's not because... But you have to do both. Both? Well, yes. But they'll always have bad ones. They'll always have bad ones. Even if we do anything. But yes, you have to be more severe. You have to be more... At the same time, as you say, you have to denounce more.

You have to... You have to minimize a lot too. I have a friend who recently came to our house and something happened to her. And I was like, no, but it's serious. And she didn't know. And after that, she was like, no, it's serious. She didn't know, and after that she was like, oh yeah? I said, yes. She said, no, no, no. It was once. Sometimes he regrets it.

I was like, no, no. He did that to you. For him, it was sure he did it to someone else. He might do it to someone else. So, not to minimize the things we live. This is the first crime thing that we minimize a lot, the women we live. You're like first thing, crime, that we minimize a lot the women we live. You're like, oh no, but nothing happened. Oh no, but it's not serious, nothing happened.

Nothing happened to you, but you don't know, maybe the next day he's going to do that to another girl, and he's going to... You never know, so you have to help out too. And I agree, but the bad guys will always have to do it. Well, that's why, after all the research, the big question is how to protect yourself. That's the question I'm asked first. It's hard to answer that question. Because...

Prevention. A combination full of business is prevention. It's especially after the coup, if it it was done, to go and report it. We're not going to start saying to everyone, get out of the bar, girls, don't go there, you know, it's not... That would be the best protection. And then again, it also happens in house parties, these things. Because...

Oh, that's what I was going to say, it's crazy, so much earlier. It's that it's the majority, in most cases, it's people we know. Oh yeah. Ah! It's flat as well. It makes sense, but I thought that, regarding drugs, well, that's it. What kills more men than women? What kills women the women in the world?

It's men. Yes. But there's something even more killing women. Women? Their husbands. Huh? It's the type of human being that kills the most. The most.

It's the husband of the whole. I said women, but I really didn't think what I said. We really don't... OK, I understand. It's in relationships of proximity. I don't know this statistic, but it could have meaning. In the sense that the murders of women, in most cases, it could come from husbands or ex-conjoined people. It's also a lot after the separations.

And the place where they are most in danger, do you know? In their house. Yes. Ah! So the most dangerous thing we can live is to be at home with your husband. I know, I know.

No. No. Yes, at the same time, you know, if we look at the totality of the population in the world, we doubt it. It's still... One, it's too much. But you know, I total population in the world, you can't help but doubt that it's too much. But I think that in general, we can still trust the people around us. There are plenty of good people, there are a couple of, I mean, a couple of crotties,

but there are plenty of people who are understanding and all that. But it remains that in these contexts of aggression, of chemical submission. In most cases, it's people around you, not necessarily a chum, but I was saying it. Win at the CEGEP, the initiations, someone you know, a friend of a friend, you go to a house party, there's a guy who's there, who makes the drinks, who finds his taste, you meet for the first time, you know, it's a story of a friend I know. So it's not just in bars. In short, to protect yourself, there's no one-on-one solution.

What I say, what I find most effective, but still it's a combination of things, including the bulletin board, I think, is to always go out with friends. And ideally someone who doesn't consume. c'est de toujours sortir avec des amis. Puis idéalement, quelqu'un qui ne consomme pas. Parce que dans plusieurs des témoignages que j'ai recueillis, dans des contextes de bar plus, c'est toujours les amis, femmes qui sont intervenues. Dès que...

Bien oui. Il y a quelqu'un qui va pas bien, s'en va, tu sais, là, dans la salle de bain ou the bathroom, to the toilet, etc. It's the friends. All the testimonials are friends who intervened. There was one, Angélique, she found herself in the rain, losing consciousness on the sidewalk. She had been out of the bar, as if was a waste that had been drinking too much. The friend was holding her head on her. And it's like around, no one was worried about what was

happening. You know, it doesn't make sense. And then there's a awareness that's also taking place in the middle of the bars, you know, because there's no bar owner who wants to have that reputation. So it's like, hey, I don't want to be associated with that. So there's no bar owner who wants to have that reputation. So it's like, hey, I don't want to be associated with that. So there's more and more training from staff, barmen, bunters. But still, a testimony that often comes, it's someone behind the bar who drugged me. Oh yeah. After that, how...

Ah, it's really... It's a flaw, I think. It's a flaw. In a lot of bars, the rest of the bars don't serve. When someone is drunk, they refuse to serve. I have two bars that I go to, and it's made me drunk by the rules.

It's a good rule. The person is drunk, you see him, technically, it's your duty to be able to say, like, hey, I can't serve you. So, cameras, as the reporter said, I know that all bars should have a camera that targets the bar. After that, if something happens, at least we can still try to find... So, that's it. Yeah, and that's it. Otherwise, how do we protect ourselves? Well, to make sure that there's people around you who you trust.

That's really the first thing. I don't really do the green cover, but... But I think it's a good option. After having evaluated everything, I tell myself, if there's one more element that you can do, that you can prevent from living something like that, why don't you do it? Why do you... We're not made to say we trust everyone.

Unfortunately, no. I totally agree with you. I believed in my little unicorn world until not long ago. I know that the bad guys before me were like, no, there's good in everyone, but now I'm like, no. There are people who are just bad. Unfortunately, again, I don't know. I made a good realization, a sad realization.

I want to know, the symptoms, let's say a person who goes to a bar, what would be the symptoms that you could help women know? Like, hey, I might have been drugged. If very quickly there is a change in attitude, that's what I was told. It's sure that with alcohol, if we consider that it's the first certainly more difficult with alcohol, because it's gradual, but it can happen very quickly. You have a friend who is dancing, and you say, hi!

You lose your mind. Not lose your mind, but you're out of light. Do you understand what I mean? It doesn't matter if you've been drugged on your own, but it's a symptom that can happen. It's very, very, very fast.

And besides, the urgentologist, specialist in toxicomania, I interviewed for that. It's a particular clinical sign. He regularly sends cases of intoxication to GHB, which can be voluntary, because I said it's a drug that's creative at first, but pathology is special because they are in cardiorespiratory stop. It's extremely dangerous, by the way, we'll talk about it. Shock room, resuscitated, and then all of a sudden, when it's at a certain point... Okay, I'm leaving. As if nothing happened, nothing happened.

From what I know, let's say, from the reputation of GHB, how I learned that it was a recreational drug, it was a lot of dancers, because they... I worked in a... in a bar, at the top of a bar of dancers. Yeah. And because you don't take weight, GHB is like...

It's like... It's like you're getting up, quote unquote, without having to take calories. So they take small amounts the GHB, it's like... it's like it's... it's like it's going to make you feel like you're going to lose weight. So they take small amounts of GHB and since they're going to follow the gym, it's like... that's it. That's why they take it. Yeah, it's really a state of drowsiness, the feeling. People take it to feel... Sleek without having to take the calories. Yeah, a little bit. And you know, with a... It's not good. We don't do that. can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it.

I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it.

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I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can always been super sensitive to GHB. I was a young adult, and the brother of my best friend had a blonde. I said, but she's the most beautiful girl in Chikutimi. So, you know, we noticed her because I had a blood type LAC Saint-Jean. That's why I said she's the most beautiful girl in Chikutimi. Véronique. And at one point, I remember, it was summer and... Véronique was dead. Dead!

You know, three weeks ago, I saw her doing a massage, walking on her boyfriend's back, and she was dead! What happened was that she was with a friend in Quebec, she worked there, a hairdresser, and they had made a restaurant dinner, a wine bottle two people, and they went out in their bar. When they got back to their apartment, someone had left GHB, and they decided to put it in their chocolate milk. And then they drank it in the same glass, both of them. They lost their cards on the bed, fell asleep on the bed, and the next morning, the phone rang.

Her alarm rang in the morning, and the bag she was wearing woke up. She said, Véronique, you have to go to work. And Véronique never woke up. She had a respiratory arrest. And she died... Yeah. 19, 20 years old. It's crazy.

You hear that, and it was a taboo. I only heard GHB, Véronique is dead, but I didn't dare to ask questions. I didn't know before doing the documentary project if they had taken it voluntarily or not. Finally, I got the coroner report after the death. What the coroner said is that it was sensitive to the danger of these drugs that could be deadly.

And that, honestly, I had never heard of it, except for that girl who died, or supposedly, after GHB. So I've always been afraid of that drug. I was like, you can die. And besides, the documentary, if I manage to join people who could potentially do that, if I can make them feel that way by saying, if you can kill the person, is that really your goal? It's disgusting to want to attack these criminals, to drug someone with your issue, but can you kill the person? Do you have a thought? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure that people... And in the coroner report, that's what it said, it explained, it takes more awareness of the dangers of these types of drugs. And it's been 20 years. And there hasn't been any. Well, I didn't see any. In any case, it was... Apart from that story. So it's extremely, extremely dangerous.

So people who are drugged on their own, who are going to be raped and all that, who are crushed in the street or everywhere. You have to take care of them too. Because it's a overdose. The recreational side is people who generally know each other very well. In the sense that they know exactly. The overdose, I had already seen a report, I was on YouTube, it's been years and years. It was a gang going on a festival bus.

It was like a mini documentary, it was American. You see, in the bus there was the supplier of GHB, it was really that drug. They put time on the quantities they took. It was very, very, very serious. I don't think it's all that dangerous. I don't think it's all... I don't think it's all that complicated. I think a lot of people take it and they don't know about it. So it could happen.

Like the case of that girl. And why the colic? I talked about the colic. Because I didn't know there were two when I heard that one was dead. But there's one that's dead and not the other. And they drank the same thing. It's probably that they were mixed up and there's one that took more than the other. Yeah, that's it.

One drop can be too much. That's it. It's really... It's minimal the switch that can occur in the amount that is consumed. Like cocaine. It's extremely dangerous. You can have two people and you have an extra thing to do. Like anything, all drugs.

They say, oh drugs are dangerous, but it's really dangerous. Like, it's crazy. When you talked to the co-worker, how did she... That's what she said, that she probably just took less. She doesn't know what happened, and that's what what she said, that she just took less. She doesn't know what happened, and that's what's really sad, because she really wanted that story, because the two of them did it together, and I had the feeling that I had trained her, but they really decided together. But she felt like a responsible culprit, and that's crazy. She said, I would have wanted it to be me for a long time.

I would have wanted it to be me who didn't die, not Véronique. And when I contacted her, it took several months before she agreed to talk to me. She had never really spoken again. You know, it's her. You wake up after a party. Something fun. It's positive. Their party was nice.

Your friend died, and you start doing all the reanimation moves, calling, telling... We didn't leave it in the documentary yet, because I said she left on the riverbank, and it took hours before someone came to her, who was close to Véronique, and said, it's not your fault, don't do it. But she said, I had no idea it could kill us. No idea.

And it was hard to get over it. I'm glad we're talking about it today. I know it's like... But it can save others. The fact that we're talking about it, I'm very grateful for coming. Yeah. And you know, I don't want to be ultra-alarmist either, you know. I think it's important to know these things.

After that, everyone can decide to make their own decisions. For me, that's okay. Now I'm talking about, you know, the dangers of consumption. I tell myself, if there are people who are watching us, listening to us, or who are going to watch the documentary, and who might have a tendency to drug someone they don't know, then they should know that, first, you shouldn't do that, and second, you're putting someone's life in danger. So that's where it is. Let's have the information, and after that, take your decisions, and above all, be sensitive.

I think that's really at the heart of the story. But I don't want to be a moralizer. That's really important. You know, I give the elements and then... It's up to you. But I learned. Every time... It's funny because every time I did a column,

because I wasn't the one who decided to do the documentary, I did the column on the radio. And then, every time... Oh, because that's another story I haven't the one who decided to do it. I was doing radio shows, and then every time... Oh, that's another story I didn't tell you about. After my first radio show, I ended up saying, there are ways to detect drugs in the winter. You put a drop in, and then you're able to know if there's GHB or ketamine. And then I ended up saying, and then you kind of threw it away.

Why isn't there that everywhere? It's so much more of a way to protect yourself. I don't know how much it costs, but even that, why isn't it there? And then I got a call from a specialist, Andréanne Saint-Gelais from the collective movement. It's her who put in place, well, with her organization, a command an Angelo. If you think you're in danger, you command an Angelo at the bar.

And it's like a signal to say, yeah, it's a signal to say, hey, I don't feel good, I'm in you think you're in danger, you order an Angelo at the bar. And it's like a signal to say... Ah! Yeah, it's a signal to say, I don't feel good, I'm in danger. And then the barman or the barmaid takes care of you. So she's behind it.

And then, in short, she calls me and says, it's shit, you know, under there. I say, well, how is that shit? But she says it just detects two substances, ketamine, GHB, but there are 200 substances, and it doesn't work. It all depends on whether your glass of alcohol has milk or cream, I think it has a belaze, or if it's strong alcohol, or if it's something ultra acidic. So it can have lots of positive false, lots of negative false.

So you can put a drop on your soup and soup and then it comes out as if it had GHB, so you panic, you suspect everyone around you, who tried to do that and all that, while it's not... there's no GHB. It's just that your drink is too acidic. We did the tests with the documentary, a gin tonic, super acidic, it came out positive. In a glass of water, it worked. In a glass of water, it worked. In a glass of water, it's positive. The water in the tap, because it's pH, it's according to the pH. So the water in the tap is a pH plus... I mixed the gin and tonic, there was some in it, and it came out negative. But that's it, there's something with the pH.

Yes, because we got GHB from the street, in our approach, because we wanted to test the open ones, so we did the tests like a glass of water, beer, gin and tonic, without. Then we put it all in the flow because it came out positive, it was like it was going to be the same with the GHB. It's crazy. It's a thing for someone who's anxious. Oh my God, I have GHB. Exactly. Oh my God, I have a high fever. That's it, exactly. And on the other hand, you have some, you test it, and then it turns out negative. You still ignore it, thinking that you are confident and that it had some effect.

In short, I talk, and every time I told things, I learned things. You know, probably you girls would have heard, they would have talked about the souverts, you would have said, well, why isn't there one everywhere? Absolutely. Because we weren't told that, you know, there's a business behind that. So, in short, it's producers,

it's someone who has heard, who says, I think there's material to do something, you know, to inform. Because you said the first one up there was alcohol. Do you know what the second one would be? We have data, but it's not here. I don't know if it's the consumers or the drug dealers in Australia, but they were surprised to find out that there was a lot of MDMA

in the results of people who thought they were drug-addicted. Because that's still the basis of what we're talking about. So they're the MDMA that was coming out a lot. It's like you take that and you're going crazy. It's like full sexual. Like, you get touched. Yeah, everything becomes more... Like, it doesn't surprise me that it's really not.

Yeah, so there's that, I know. Here in Quebec, we still don't... It must be that. It's still... Well, it could be. It's still a small sample. But we'll eventually have them, that information, it's for sure. But at the same time, as you said,

there's a discretion around the types of drugs that are used to To communicate them. And I can understand that, as far as we don't want to tell people who are malicious, here's what you can use. But to know, you know, I think we can, we're big enough

to have that information and decide what we do with it. I'd be curious to know what comes out first. It could be MDMA. But there is a woman that we interviewed. She is older and she arrived in a park. It was a school year party because she worked in the school environment. It even happens in contexts like that. It's a c a hurry. Then it was a storm. She didn't see it fully. Then quickly, the symptoms we were talking about, you know, the stunts,

it started to walk towards her house, she didn't live far away, then she had difficulty getting around, the vision was blurry and everything. Then she said, it really had the effect of a very powerful somnifer. Then she, she was on her back for three days. Unlike the GHB, where they exposed that the person who woke up, you know, it's like

nothing had happened, that kind of drug. And what she suspects, it's something in the family of benzodiazepines, somnifers. Is it often used? That's where it's really hard to say. But in all the testimonies I've had, I feel like there are different explanations, with symptoms that change a little, that can make sure that several different drugs have been used. When you said the documentary, how was it born? We didn't even talk about it. You said you had calls to the radio about it. And the documentary project,

is someone else who brought it to you? Someone who listened to it, it's a name of the author. It's an author. Because I never stopped coming back. Every time I learned something, I would come back. I didn't have a choice. I had said the day before that the openings were extraordinary. I had to correct my information.

So that's the accumulation of the chronicles I did, the testimonies I collected. It's a guy called Luc Fortin. He works a little in the field, but not really. And there's a kind of flower for that. And he wrote to me, he said, Marie-, I think he has material to make a documentary. And he's the one who brought the K.O. TV company closer. He said, can you put your name on it? What is he? Is he a producer? He works in the media.

He's really not a producer. He's just someone who... He worked a bit at Quebec Art. He had a web office and all that. He's a big part of the media world. But he's not. Québec Arts, il y avait un bureau web et tout ça. Tu sais, il gravite dans l'hiver des médias, mais là il l'est plus. C'est juste quelqu'un qui m'écoutait à la radio puis qui a eu ce flair-là, puis qui s'est dit, tu me permets-tu d'essayer d'approcher des producteurs? Puis finalement, K.O. TV, c'est à bord de Louis Morissette, ils font toutes sortes de choses et des documentaires. Ils ont dit, avec Rosémi Autonne-Témorin, puis

la réalisatrice qui est arriv came after, also Marie-Christine, I want to name her because she really worked very, very hard. It's like an investigation that we did, there is a lot of information. Eve Lévesque too, who went to climb, because I had a lot of information that I had obtained, testimonies and all that, but after, you had to call everyone, ask questions, are there any, are there any? So it was really a team work.

But that's it, when on TV they said, OK, yes, then we went to meet everyone, ask questions, they asked if we had any, if we didn't have any, so it was really a team effort. But that's when they said, OK, yes, and we went to meet Radio-Canada, it works like that, it's a pitch. They decided to welcome us. We sent it as the plan, and they said, OK, we want to welcome you to present the idea. We did it, and it happened really quickly the next day.

It's rare that it's empty the next day. We got an answer, we said, OK, we're going to go. The first step is development, so it's all the research. empty at the same time. We got an answer. We said, OK, the first step is development. So it's all the research. And when the development is finished, it's not very long, it lasts a few weeks. They say officially, yes, we're going into production. It was done in less than a year. It really happened very quickly.

It's rare for contexts like that, but the timing was so there. And it was released during the Mazar rapes trial in France. So it was broadcast live on television. It's interesting to have these discussions too, because we're in the traditional, there's still a radio broadcast on Thursday, I don't know what date, the 8th of December, you know, at 8pm. Do you want to know about the people in front of the TV? And it's a subject, but it's also wide public. Both young people and the younger ones.

We have more than 400, in any case, not far from 450,000 people live. That's not counting the registrations because there are people who register. Then, Tout Point TV after. Then, I arrive from Mexico. I was on vacation. And just to tell you how far it took me,

and I'm so happy about that because that was the goal. I was told about it. For example, a medical student told me, Hey, I saw the documentary on rape drugs, and it interested me, I learned, you know, a young woman. So I see that it's circulating, that the information is on its way, and I'm super happy. But in short, to have so many people watching, you know, a Thursday on TV every week, I was still happy for a unique documentary.

It touches everyone. From far or near, we all know someone who has already had a similar experience. Was it you who had done it? Because the other time you mixed me up a little, but it was in New York. The time in New York, listen, it's because it's hard, you never know. The time in New York, I'm convinced that my friend got drunk. I'm not sure because I still have memories of my evening. I woke up, I fell asleep, but I still have memories, but it can be.

But there is... In my life, it must have happened to me three times. That you suspect it happened. Yes. That's a lot. Yes, anyway. But you know, you talk about it and... You know, there was one time I was was lying down in the street in the village, and I got kicked out of a taxi because I wasn't able to hold on,

and I have no memories. I got kicked out by people. You know, I have memories. You know, I had the burden to hold on to alcohol, yes, but there are moments when I know that it's gone from nothing, and that I don't remember anything,, I wasn't able to stand up. I was still... It didn't seem like that in your contexts of consumption. It's like what I was in other...

You knew you had something that wasn't normal. That's right. I knew I was able to black out alone at home. So that's not surprising that I black out. But now I'm okay. I'm not there anymore, for example. There's no link with how much I drank or there's a boot in the evening.

So it must have happened to me at least three times, I think. And before, imagine we don't talk about it that much, it's new that we talk about it, but before, even before the denunciations, it was before that that you drank, so there was a little crowd. You know, the dancers who were doing GHB, it's the evening I went out with them that I ended up in the street. So this time, that's why it's the time I'm pretty sure of.

Hey, that's for sure! Oh my God! They let you do it like that. I'm also interested in the after. I mean, you know, if you think it comes from someone from that gang who maybe wanted to do it so you had fun, even then it doesn't hit me in the head. Let's say that's it.

They let you leave all alone. It's... it's it. We let you go away all alone. It's weird, I would say. I mix the evenings too because, I have to say that there's like my alcohol consumption at that moment. The evenings come back a little from Paris to the same. But there is a particular evening that I know that I was not there anymore. But is it that evening that a dancer brought me home or not?

I don't know. It's... No, it was... No, I understand, I understand. Oh my God. You may have a lot of trauma that you don't even know. Actually, are you sure? Yes, that's for sure.

An energy exchange. Yes, I'm going to have an energy exchange soon. Yes. Is that... But I just want to know... It just touches me to hear these stories because... Yes, it's crazy. I don't want to sound like I'm banalizing it. I know I'm talking about it as if it wasn't important. It's just that it's the kind of thing that when you're the one living it, you... I don't know how to say it. But you minimize it.

Yes. That's what we do, we minimize our business all the time. Yes, that's it. Until later you see repercussions, that hey, oh yes, I'm the same, hey, it's maybe a couple of babies that maybe I'm not going to... But what I understand is that you question yourself too, that's the thing, you're never really sure that's what's going on. That's what's going on.

You prefer the option of, oh, it must be something else. It's mostly because I had... In my profile, let's say, I blacked out alone at home. So if I blacked out once more, but I told you, this time it's weird. You're still talking to a girl who's blackouting herself at home. So you're like, how serious are you taking it? You're like, anyway, you would probably be there. No, but you were the perfect victim.

You, imagine I'm a predator, you were the perfect victim. Because someone who drinks a lot, you know it. The girl knows you, you know she drinks a lot, people won't believe it. Even you, you're crazy. a lot, people won't believe it. Even you, you're crazy. So probably that's what happened to you. I said it three times, and I think it's probably more than that. I even have someone who was like the drug dealer in a bar

where I went all the time. I went across from home, let's say, to have a drink. And he was always there around the bar. And we called him the furniture on that bar. And I always found him there. Every time I went to that bar, I'd come back home completely drunk. And in my memories, I didn't drink that much. You know, there are a lot of things in my alcohol life that I feel like there are bits that...

You're missing a couple of explanations. Yeah. But, you know... That's it. And you know... But you know, when we talk about alcohol as the main drug of chemical submission, there's that too, you know, for people, knowing, for example, that you were able to consume a lot, to reach a point where you're not there anymore,

it could probably be very easy to get consumed, knowing that you're going to get there. Absolutely. Even without drugs necessarily. Yeah, really. Yes, that's for sure. Oh, and there's no doubt about that. Let's say that alcohol gets me double when I don't know,

it happened to me hundreds of times. It's easy. But you know, I'm not going to pursue everyone, that's what I wanted to get bored of. No, but if you take an example, you know, sometimes it's stupid, but there is a person that you know that, as we said, sometimes she just wants to declare something. Sometimes you don't know, you can maybe make the difference. If one day you have the taste, make a good declaration. You'll have a couple that you could. Question. Me, that for example, my mother, she really was good at it.

Prevention, my mother, every time I went out, I went to friends' house. She teased me. I was like, Mom, repeat after me. You always keep your glass on you. You never take a glass from someone who brings you a glass. All the preventions, like baby, you think that... But finally, if it's not the poor, it gets in my head.

And even at 30, I don't accept a glass that someone brings me. But what would be the recommendations could we make to prevent people who are cuckoo, but who have a crime? It could make a difference. Your mother has very good advice. And that's what we hear too. I've heard that a lot too. And not just by example, my parents. I heard it at school.

I think the idea of being be careful with your glass, someone can put something in it and all that. That's a good prevention, to hear stories. Hmm. The strength of testimony, you know. Like the girl, you traumatized me with GHB. Like, you... Well, it had an effect on me. I don't have...

I sent it to everyone who took it. Like, all the people I know who take it, I sent it to them who took it. Like, all the people I know who take it, I sent it. I was like, uh! Yeah, it had an effect on all drugs, this story. You know, precisely, when we say, hey, it can be dangerous. We know it, but it looks like we know it. But as long as it doesn't affect us,

as long as we don't see the consequences, as long as we don't hear them, it's not that it's not important, but it's far away. So I think that in prevention, hearing stories, testimonies, making them circulate, that can really help. Because, okay, yeah, your mother said to protect your mother, you know, it depends on the age you are, and you can say, it're exaggerating and all. No, wait, listen, listen, look at this. I told you, but it's not for nothing. I said that, it's for sure.

And then I come back with the idea on the spot, really always with people of trust. Because there will always be bad guys, as you say, who will do that if it ever happens, to have a security net. Because it can happen. You have to protect yourself. Protect yourself.

It can even be... It's who I had the example. You're in a festival, the bottles of water. They suggest to consumers to put dye in the bottles of water, they suggest to the consumer to put food coloring in the bottles of water in which there is drug, so that someone who comes next to you, doesn't get the bottle of water wrong. Do you understand what I mean? You know, there are a lot of people who drink water,

and there is one who decides to put GHB for fun, in the festival. I arrive, Marie-Ève, there's the whole gang full of bottles of water, it was mine. And finally, I manage something that wasn't meant for me. Well, you know, with dancers, I said to myself a lot, I may have drunk in the beer of someone, of a dancer who was there, you know, that too, that's something I have to say. I said to myself, I may have made a mistake myself. That's it. We're never safe.

That's the way I tell that, with the water bottles. To make sure that if we don't want it to happen, if it happens, we're well surrounded. Otherwise, we continue to raise awareness in bars, licensed establishments. I've really discussed it with good bar owners. There's the one from Nacho Libre had some cases. I felt them honest.

If it happened once, it could happen again. The second time, wow, we have a problem. I feel that these cameras are working. They can't stop it 100%. The follow-up, they even told me, you know, at one point they put someone in the ambulance who was in that state. So you know, the responsibility of the bar is not just inside the walls, you know, it's also, I still think of Angelique, you know, on the sidewalk in the rain and everything, well, you know, no, you don't let one or a client come out like that. No.

You don't want to die on the conscience. I feel like nobody wants that. No. You know. So that's how I would go. And watch the documentary, Les Droques du Vieux, on Ristitut.tv. On Ristitut.tv. Can we...

Do you have a place to go? To get closer to schools? Because it's a good document to pass in schools. Yes, already. They approached me for... It would be mandatory. Yeah, yeah. Listen.

From a certain age, I don't know how they're going to sort it out. I was thinking, from the third grade, are you able to... Even one, starts to drink, two maybe. It's true. It's before we start... We traumatize them right away, like that after. Thank you, bye. I think it's cooler to drink today.

It's true. Less cool than the others. My little brother. I think it's because of the millennials who were so thick. They were very small and they saw us go. They were like, we're really thick. It's true that it was a little thick. I remember going out, still in Coutigny or Paube Avenue.

You had to pay 5$ for your cash, and you had like 4 coupons. It was either like a beer coupon or an orange vodka. I would take it on my table. Orange vodka was so good. When you're 17 or 18, it's really our time, I think. It's not cool anymore. It's a lot of chilling, chilling in the parks, in the basement of houses.

We don't move around in the city anymore. It's a meeting. I'm talking about the youth, more the teenagers. Because of the Covid that did that. That changed the way things were. We couldn't go outside, so we started to chill. A month ago, we were saying, I didn't chill alone, but now I'm alone and I'm going out. Now we're starting again. I like going out more.

I used to go out alone when I was a teenager, but we used to get drunk. We used to turn our arms around. We were disgusting. Big Sour Puss crisis. The big sex on the beach, the big blue bottle. That was a piece at the Pobavenu. I have a plastic bag. The Boris. The one that Chris has.

Oh yes, the Boris. It's the small bottle. Him, the dependent, it's blue. Smirnoff Boris. The dependent, it's blue. It's like a blue bottle. The 7%... It's a bit of a risk. It depends on the blue. It's like a blue bottle. Oh yes, the cool ones. 7% there. It's 7% it's like...

That still exists. Yes. Local fires, I think. Local fires, that's the story of the young woman who died too. Young woman? Yes. It's not forbidden, like, local fires. Yes, it's like...

Yes, with quantities of alcohol. She... I have her name on the tip of my tongue. It happened on the North River of Montreal a few years ago. Her father, in prevention, when we say that, took her in a van. I don't know if she stole it or not. She had drunk it on the afternoon at high school,

and they found her a few days later in the river next to the school. That's the period of knowledge with this... And that's what was announced, the etiquette, which is really very attractive, and the fact that you don't taste alcohol at all when you drink those things. And it was a bit like that when I started learning the Smirnoff. You don't want the taste of alcohol, you want... I think it was the fact of taking the...

You know, I feel like I'm taking alcohol, you know? More old, more... You know, it wasn't necessarily the goal of getting drunk and all. But you know, you didn't want to taste the... No. That's crazy. Hey, thank you so much, Marie-Ève. It was really fun.

I'm really grateful that you came here today. We talked about the drug of rape, which is on ici tout.tv. Everything was at... 98.5. Radio every day, every morning, at noon. And it's really social subjects like that. It's super varied, but it's a place where there are discussions. I receive texts, I read the questions from the auditors, there's even people who call. So 7 days a week.

From Monday to Friday, 10 o'clock in the afternoon or 985. And then you move to your radio station every morning. Yes! It's a hot job. It's really fun, it's like this morning I get up at 5 o'clock, it was my return from work, 5 o'clock, and then I start working at 5 o'clock. Hey, but you're not there at noon? What are you doing at 5 a.m. It was my return to work. Five hours. And you know, I start working at five. Hey, but you're not at noon. What are you doing at five? Well, it's because my subjects are not all determined in advance.

Okay. You can wear your capsule. So it's like, okay, what's up? What can I do? So with researchers, there are two researchers, we send text messages with articles. We could do this, we could do that, we could do that, we could do that. But you know, like tomorrow, I'm just asking, I know it's over, but...

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