Sexe Oral - TOUT ce que la loi dit sur le SEXE : consentement, ITSS, nudes, BDSM (Avec Maître Sophie Mongeon)

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Les propos exprimés dans ce podcast relèvent d’expériences et d’opinions personnelles dans un but de divertissement et ne substituent pas les conseils d’un.e sexologue ou autre professionnel de la santé. Dans cet épisode, les filles reçoivent l’avocate Sophie Mongeon, qui vulgarise le droit sexuel sans tabou. Elles abordent les zones grises entourant le consentement, les ITS, les relations de pouvoir et les recours pour les victimes. Un épisode essentiel, accessible et percutant pour mieux comprendre ses droits. Outils : www.juridiqc.gouv.qc.ca Le lien exact : https://juridiqc.gouv.qc.ca/outil-d-aide-a-l-adhesion-au-regime-d-union-parentale#:~:text=JuridiQC%20accompagne%20les%20conjoints%20de,au%20r%C3%A9gime%20d'union%20parentale. Autres ressources ; www.soquij.qc.ca www.canlii.org www.ivac.qc.ca www.cavac.qc.ca https://www.quebec.ca/justice-et-etat-civil/accompagnement-victimes-crime/partage-sans-consentement-image-intime Au menu : - Peut-on poursuivre quelqu’un qui nous transmet l’herpès? - Ce qui est légal (ou pas) dans un contrat BDSM ou sugar dating - Les nouvelles lois sur l’union parentale au Québec - Consentement, intoxication et agressions sexuelles : que dit la loi? - Les recours pour les victimes d’abus, même des années plus tard  Le podcast est présenté par Éros et Compagnie Utiliser le code promo : SEXEORAL pour 15% de rabais sur https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/ Les jouets dont les filles parlent: https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/page/podcast  Le podcast est présenté par Oxio. Pour plus d'informations: https://oxio.ca/ Code promo pour essayer Oxio gratuitement pendant un mois: SEXEORAL  Pour collaborations : [e-mail] Pour toutes questions : [e-mail] Pour suivre les filles sur Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/sexeoralpodcast Pour contacter les filles directement, écrivez-nous sur Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/sexeoral.podcast/  

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How much can you make? It's not interesting. It's the difference between criminals and small children. If the dad does such a thing. If the sex, you know. The BDSM contracts, the sex contracts. Sugar Daddy. What's legal in there, what can be legal.

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Thank you, Oxxion, we love you, and we'd love to have some games. There's one next time. Welcome, Master Sophie. Hello. Hello. Thank you, thank you. I'm really happy to be here today, really. We are really happy to have you. It's very exciting. We have a lot of questions for you. You already had time to review them. But before, we would like to do a portrait of who you are. We can be a bit of a tutorial. Absolutely. So... I've been a lawyer for 30 years. It's a bit of a betrayal of my age, but it's still a sign of experience. I started to represent the accidents of work and the road,

the victims of criminal acts, the invalidity benefits, the invalidity insurance. And over time, I'm throwing the citizen against the big machines, against the government, against the employers. So when people come to see me, they're really, really disarmed. And one of the common phrases I hear, yeah, but I didn't know that. There's a principle that says, «Null n'est censé, ignorez la loi». If you went on a stop, you didn't see it, it was there, it's a pity for you, you still have a counter-vention.

So, over time, I thought, «Ah, I would like to be able to answer people as I go along, and tell them, really, «No, it's simple, you can find everything on the web». So, during the pandemic, there were a lot of questions, so I started a podcast called A Deux Mètres. We were two lawyers, so two meters and two meters.

And we met people who were live. That was fun. So we could talk about vaccination, work rights, all that. And when the pandemic ended, the enrichment team, they did another podcast, La Poche Bleue. So it was more about the enrichment prize, and I didn't like that. I wanted to be able to answer our questions, like we do today. You know, a exchange of questions, etc. And that's when, with the great despair of my adult children, I started my TikTok page in December 2020,

which is called Maître Sophie Avocate. Then, five years later, I was 123,000 subscribers, and every Monday night, we a live, a legal one, or live during an hour, in the fall we'll do an hour and a half, where you come and ask your questions and I answer them as I go. I love the challenge of being on the VIF, of finding an answer quickly, and then you're honest, when I don't know, I say it,

and then I'll make a capsule to answer the question. So that's a little bit all that, my journey in recent times, which makes me an amateur of podcasts and that kind of information, no matter if the information is spicy or not, that it's still an essential service. What brought you to this career? Lawyer? Yes.

In 1990, when someone starts with a date, that's not a good sign, but anyway, I lived in Oka during the crisis in Oka. So at that time, I lived in an Indian reserve, and then there was the crisis in Oka, and then there were battles between the army and all that, and I found myself caught up in it. And then I met politicians, and a politician in particular, who was called Claude Ryan, at that time he was the Minister of Public Security, he looks at me and says, what Sophie, you would be a good lawyer. I said, oh yeah, and I didn't really know what to do. You know, I think like all young people, it's like a transition, what are you doing, etc. So there he put the gun to my ear, so I was like, why? Okay, why not? Why did you say you could be a good lawyer?

Because I think I have empathy. And I was raised on a farm, not in the box, in Westmount or whatever. So I've always been a worker. And I think he saw that I had the right of citizens at heart. I had already started giving small TV interviews for these stories. I was present during meetings with the government to try to sell our farm. You were 18 at that time?

Yes, I was 17 or 18. I applied for a right and at the time I had submitted my application with letter of recommendation. Today, we do it less, but at the time, I had a letter of recommendation from the minister who said that I was a good person and that I had demonstrated good work. So finally, I was accepted at the university. And it was not easy. I don't mind saying it, and at the same time, it encourages young people. I took my first class called Introduction to the Right. It's not bad. I don't mind saying it, but it also encourages young people. I took my first class called Introduction to the Rights.

It's not easy. But, look at today, with a step back. When you have adversity, you don't have to see it as an obstacle. You have to see it as a redirect. And it allows you to get over it. Sometimes when you make a mistake or it's not going well, it doesn't matter. You lift your sleeves. So that's how I ended up being a lawyer. And with time, since I was doing a kind of law that is administrative law,

civil service came naturally to do all that. How has your practice evolved in recent years? The law remains the same. It's the same things, accident of work, accident of car, criminal act. That has changed a lot in recent years. So the law is the same, it's my vision that has changed. So my vision is to make the law accessible so that people can understand. Like today we're going to talk about the subject, whether it's a crime or not.

And we don't expect people to remember everything. What we expect, what they say, yes, it seems to me that I heard about it, so leave a little grain there and then, oh yes, we're going to look for more». So in the last years, what has really changed is social networks. You have access to inform yourself a lot more. Listen, me before, when I wanted to find a decision that explains what we call the jurisprudence, when I wanted to find a decision that explains what we call the jurisprudence, when I wanted to find a decision that looked like the one I wanted to plead, I had to get up and do what I had to do at the University of Montreal,

go to the library, or go to the justice pallet. Today, you have that at the tip of your fingers. That's crazy. So it's just, you can say, I don't know, it's easy to find, and my goal is to help you find the answers yourself, so that it doesn't cost you money. So, there you go. Today, how do you feel about the subject we're going to talk about?

Are these things you talk about often? Because we're going to talk a lot more about sexuality, sexual rights, BDSM, we really have a lot of questions about sexuality. Have you ever talked about it? How did you get to talk about it? It's new for me, I find it interesting. But since my goal is to demystify the right, I'm a bit like a family doctor.

When you have a family doctor, there are knowledge in everything. After that, when you need a particular problem, it will refer you to an orthopedist, a elbow problem, etc. A heart problem, it will send you a cardiologist, etc. So I see myself as a family doctor. I have knowledge of office in a lot of everything. And that's what I'm able to answer you today.

So no, I'm still very excited about the challenge that you're offering me today, the girls, really. Well, I would pretty excited about the challenge you're offering me today, girls. I'd go straight to the subject. Wait, but before we get into the subject, you told me about a topic that's up to date. Yes, there's a report on June 30th. What's going on? I'd like you to tell us. Not everyone knows about it, including the ages. I had no idea. You had no idea? Parental union. Parental union. Yes.

Before, to have rights when you were in a relationship, you really had to be married, civilly or religiously. Then, over time, in 2012, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if you remember the cause of Eric and Lola. Not at all. Not at all. It's an extremely rich man. Most people know who he is, but these are pseudonyms that have been used.

There were three children with a particular woman and they separated. She wasn't married, so she wanted food and shared goods. So it ended up until the Supreme Court, the biggest court in Canada, which decides when it's important legal issues for everyone. At that time, we said, in, we chose to have the family heritage when you're married. When you're not married, it's good value, you don't really have protection. And then came the parental union. So whether you're married or not, if you have a child with a person after June 30, 2025, automatically you are admitted to the parental union regime.

Very good news. That's what he does. So let's say, whoever decides to have a child, you have a responsibility. The guy can't leave. So let's say, I have a child before, June 30, 2025. It doesn't count for him, but I'm going to have a daughter in September 2020. She will count. 100%. Yes, automatically.

So it's important. Everything will be submitted to the parental union. And it's from one side to the other. Half and half. If you live together. Even the house is yours, for example. The tone. Because the girls are financially able to be autonomous.

That's it. That's it. It stresses me more than it excites me. The guy lives with you. From there, you have a child with him. From there, you are submitted to the parental union. So the most valuable thing in your house. So today, if it's worth 500,000,

then when you separate or there is a rupture, during your 750, you will have to share the most valuable. On the other hand, it's the companies. If I'm not mistaken, the companies don't count. So your company, your money, you don't have to give anything. Be careful. You can have a compensation loan, for example. I don't understand anything. Let's say you're the one who works all the time,

and he's the one who takes care of the family. So he puts aside his plans. To enrich you personally, you could be able to give him a compensatory loan that is a amount of interest. It's not a food pension like when you're married, but it's like a amount for what we call unjustified enrichment. Because your heritage has grown while he was decreasing because he gave to the family. Yes, absolutely, it's extraordinary. when he was getting older, because he gave it to the family.

Yes, absolutely. It's extraordinary. It's especially good because we won't hide it anyway. Women's rights are not equal everywhere across the planet. When we say we have the right to vote in 1940 and abortion in 1988, it's not that far away, it's not even 100 years away. So, it will mostly protect women who are in positions that are more demunized than men. It's always that. Men couldn't go on their careers if they didn't have the help of their spouse,

and in the end, they pay the price. No, it's extraordinary. Do you think it will make decisions in front of the court? Because at the same time, now to be in a relationship, you're no longer necessarily forced to live together. That too, it's starting to be a little difficult in the legal evaluation, because you can be in a done relationship without necessarily living together. If you, we are a couple, you and me, you live at home, I live at home, and we have the common name, everyone knows that we are partners. At that moment,

we are still considered as a couple even if we do not live together. I use a, and we adopt a child together, let's say after June 2025. Yes. Another question? Okay. Oh, I like that. There is, it can still bring something. That's why I was talking about it with my friend. We imagined all the possible scenarios that could happen, including one. A woman who wants to have a child alone, because it exists, who falls in love with someone who doesn't protect herself. And it's her fault too, it's her who doesn't protect protected, so it's a pity for him. And then she gets pregnant and then, finally, she keeps him. Can she, but they're not together, like just... She wanted a child all by herself.

Can she go back and say, hey, I want half of all your things? No, she can't go back to say half of her things because they're not considered together. They don't have the common name, but she could still ask for a food pension for the child. But it's not for young people. It's already like that. So you have to be a part of it to make it work. Yeah. Okay, because I was like, hey, guys, wear even more condoms.

Well, it's sure that thinking so well. But all the time, basically, it's never the fault. I find that it's your penis, it's you that I'm talking about. Well, put a count on your wall. But I was sure it was that. So I was like, imagine. Imagine. But can you give up on this path, this regime if you want? There are formulas that you can fill to give up.

There is no formula. You have to go to a notary. So they make it a little more complicated to be sure that it's not a night that, you know, I'll give you a little document, yes, sign it, resign to parental union. You have to go to the notary. Here, for example, you already have your two children, I think you have two children. If you wanted to be, to adhere to the regime of parental union,

you can do it. There is a free tool online. For online tool for you to have that protection. You have to accept the word. It has to be consent. What's more complicated to talk about in a couple's life? Money, children, sometimes sexuality too. Adhering to it afterwards, it's for sure that we're going to have

some nice battles with that. But the other thing that tells me... It's for sure that you say, we can give up on that. In what point and what goal would the woman want to give up on that if it's not because her boyfriend is a bloke.

You know, like... Do people check something? renonce à ça si c'est pas parce que son chum il est bleu. Tu comprends? Est-ce que les gens vérifient quelque chose? Est-ce qu'ils font comme « ah que c'est beau, tu renonces », mais peut-être que la femme elle s'est fait obligée de renoncer aussi. Ben rendu là, je pense que le notaire, étant donné que ça doit être fait devant un notaire, s'il voit que le consentement il est vicié. En tout cas, le mot magique aujourd'hui, les filles, je vous le dis, c'est le mot consentement. Si on voit que le consentement il est pas réel, il est vicié, il est tordu, he is twisted, at that moment, the notary cannot... He can intervene. Yes, he has a legal obligation to say no. It's like a doctor, he sees that you are not well and you ask for advice. But he can challenge you and say I don't think you have free and clear consent.

Okay, okay, that's good. Okay, now we get to the point. I think I would be very alive. Well, I think you would be. Because you know the mothers who are not. It was alive. The right of women is important. It allows us to know our affairs. So, consent to sexual intercourse.

Is it not to share... Where are you? I'm in my personal questions. OK. Is it not to not disclose... I'm in my personal questions. Okay. Is it possible to not disclose an ITS before the sexual intercourse can be considered as a criminal? If yes, in which disease? You know, I know that AIDS and everything... HIV, yes.

Which one is it? HIV, there have been decisions that have been made, especially in 1988. In 1998, when you were caught with AIDS, you were almost dying. So it could be considered a sexual assault. It was really a crime not to reveal it. A little bit earlier, a judgment came in 2012. So we see that the law is changing with new values, with society changes. A podcast like that, maybe 20 years ago, I'm not sure who would have been welcomed.

We think of Madonna with her song Like a Virgin. I remember my mother, she was a capote at that time, today. It was a little gum. So in 2012, there was another judgment where we said that it was a sexual assault, but we had to look at if the person was active while she had sexual relations. So if the seropositivity was there, it's more of a crime than if at that moment you're not really...

you don't really have symptoms. So that's HIV as such, but it can still be considered as a sexual assault with 14 years in prison. Ah! Yes, 14 years. Depending on the circumstances. Especially if you develop complications, you're sick. So the consent you gave is vitiated, it's fraud. I don't understand the numbers either.

14 years, okay, but why is a pedophile two years old? I don't understand. No, the juvenile pornography is 14 years old too, but why pedophiles, it's two years, I understand. No, the juvenile pornography is 14 years too, but each is a case of species. You know, the law is like a base, okay? We never say, it's not black, it's not white, it's gray. So it's like there are bales, so it can be in time and time, depending on the facts. Did the person still consent? Did she dress? Did you meet her at a party where half of the world has AIDS?

So you can wait for the old age, so you can wait for... So every case is really a kind of code, and that's why we call it the jurisprudence. So that's what comes a little tempered the law. And then, more on the airspace, which is a little more common, there you can pursue the civilian. The civilian is more about getting a financial compensation. The criminal is more about punishing. The person can go to jail, do community work, etc.

The civilian is more about, I caught the Air Pace because of you, I'm pursuing you because it's causing me harm. So I have three causes that are different. But for example, in 2019, there was a man who was sentenced to pay a woman $32,000 to have herpes. While he knew, let's say, and he didn't tell her? He hadn't received an official diagnosis, but he had already had symptoms. So, you know, a bit of a voluntary blinding. So he didn't declare it to the woman, she followed him.

And since there was a fault, she followed him for 32,000. In another case, you see, the woman was paid, she had to pay 11,000 to a man to have transferred her piece. The woman knew she was pregnant, but she didn't declare it. So what makes $32,000 one, $11,000 the other? That's what I was calling you, what I was calling you, jurisprudence. Each case is a case of species. And you see another man, he was sentenced to paying $12,000 to a woman. In this case, the man declared the a carrier after the woman had symptoms.

So, in the end, she said, listen, it stings, it scratches me, did you have it? He said, yes, well, I had it. So he was sentenced to 12,000. But that's not that much. And here, let's say the person who transmits the reprise told him, but there's no proof that it was him. Well, what I told you, what you told me, but there's still a consent. It's better to write, in that case, like, by text. By the way, I have the reprise. Well, maybe not by text.

There are proofs that you said it. Yeah, but... But in that case, you know, situation, if the guy says it, and you go voluntarily, I'd really like you to be turned away from it. Yes, but... The genitalia, there's a lot of people who have it, and it's like a buccal,

there's three quarters of the world. So you can't do it at the same time, but is there a way to protect yourself, like the person to protect themselves, and the other one too, that both of them... but is there a way to protect yourself, like the person to protect themselves, and the other too, that the two of them, you know, the person, what is the best option? Would it be necessary to send a text,

or would it be necessary to do a... I was trying to tell you that the option of text or the email is a good thing, you know, a little text, hey, yesterday we had a conversation. But is it embarrassing to talk about that? It's like I said, it's about money too, or talking about that, sometimes it's... But we're still in a time when I think we have to do it. But I think, yes, listen, I understand that we talked yesterday

that I'm a wearer of the Airpice and that it's not problematic for you. OK. You can always do that to protect yourself. OK. Do we really do it? Well, I'm not sure. But that's crazy. Yeah.

I knew that HIV... Even though HIV, when you're not detectable because you take medication, you don't even need to say it. You have to keep it. In the judgement that was made in 2012,

the jurisprudence came to give us premises or teachings. They told us that you have an obligation to reveal 2012. Donc c'est ça que la jurisprudence vient faire, nous donner des prémisses ou des enseignements là. Il nous dit que t'as une obligation de révéler ta séropositivité lorsqu'une possibilité est réaliste de transmission du VIH. Puis que tu utilises pas de protection. Fait que c'est venu tempérer un peu l'obligation, mais entre toi pis moi, je pense to say it anyway, because it's serious, the consequences of that. Well, I think there are some who are really undetectable, undetectable, as if there was nothing there. You can't be a bearer without really knowing either. If you don't know it and you discover it afterwards, so you can't be accused of aggressive crime.

And even in the civilian, because at that moment, you didn't make a mistake, you really didn't know. But if the person is able to prove that you knew, and that you didn't reveal it, then we can talk about a pursuit in the civil. Is it a pursuit in the civil? Because I, I don't know, I was being robbed of my tempo, and... At 4,000$? On a scale. I stole my tempo and... Ha ha ha! At four thousand dollars? On a scale. Then I called the police and I went.

Then they told me I had two choices, either in the civil or with us. I said, what's the difference? It's civil to say whatever, but he said with us, we can stop him. I said, ok, but where's my tempo? You'll have a tempo. Your insurance? Yeah, but I want him to give me my tempo.

So you're the one who stole it? Yes, I have all the evidence. It was really easy, his name, he wrote to anyone, detective, anyone he could find. So I give him all the evidence, all the notes. To the police? Yes, but he told me that if he could find them, he would give them my tempo.

I don't have my tempo. How long did it take? It took about six months. Okay. Plus didn't have my tempo. How long did it take? It took about 6 months. And then it was winter, it was cold. So how do I do it? It's better to find another tempo. You think so?

But my tempo, can I go to the person who's not a criminal? You can do both. I can do both? Yes, you can do both. Does the other cost money? The civilian? Yes. And when your claim is less than $15,000.

You know, like earlier we talked about intimate photos, all that, if it causes a problem, you can pursue it. Or small loans. Small loans are $15,000 less. So much easier, not a lot of fees. Yes! So that's possible. So in the case of a police officer, you make a flight policy, you let it go.

You don't hold back because they have quite more important subjects than your tempo to settle. With all due respect. With all due respect, yes! Even if we loved our tempo. And you can continue with the civilians for the value. And if they were stolen, you can make a complaint to your insurance company. No, no, it's beautiful insurance companies. Ok, perfect! Thank you. It's my little parenthesis.

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Seeking arrangement. Isn't that it? It can be, I don't know. Let's say we take the Contras OnlyFans. That's legal, as long as there is no sex exchange. Ok? That's clear. The contracts for Sugar Baby, Sugar Dating, Sugar Mama, Sugar Daddy, that's also legal, but I don't know why someone would do that. At the level of OnlyFans, there are even companies that specialize in management. For example, I think I have beautiful feet, which I find elsewhere.

And then I have the taste with my daughter to be an OnlyFans of Mom and Daughter Feet, something like that. I could have a contract with a manager who could take care of putting forward, at the same time as you have help for your podcast, etc. So that's possible. As long as, as I said, we don't talk about sex exchanges, and it includes people who are together. The controls of sugar baby, sugar dating, it's also legal. But for example, when we talk about framing the monetary value,

I give you examples. Outings at restaurants, outings at the theater, listening to movies together, traveling together, walking around, doing sports. But from the moment we talk about sexual exchanges, we're not allowed to do such contracts. So the contract doesn't hold.

We call it a contract that's rigged. Because it's based on something that's illegal. I understand. But you can have it. But as I said, I don't know why we would have one. There are already implicitly some in everyday life. You know, there are men like Léa Nordot from Caprio who go out with 25-year-old girls. There is no written contract with her, maybe confidentiality agreements, but we know that he makes her live a kind of life of rich and famous, etc.

So implicitly, it already exists, as such, in everyday life. But it's not illegal. I think it was in Toronto, yes, that's it, there's a guy who pursued his old sugar baby for $229 million. Yes, yes. It's for sure that the cause was not retained't maintained because the amount was exaggerated. And then, from the moment the girl decides that it doesn't exist anymore, there's no motive to pursue it. As if he had given for $229 million.

I don't think he gave for $229 million for the exchange of services. But it happened to him for for sexuality, for example. Do you often see cases where the gentlemen come back and say, hey, I'm going to tax you because you stole a lot of cash from me, and you didn't give me everything I wanted? Well, we know that there are men who like that. Indeed, having a young woman, he is paid to spend their money on them, give gifts, there are some who like that. and to spend their money on them, to give them presents. Some people like that.

But you know, can we really pursue someone? Not really. Because we don't see many people doing that. It's a bit embarrassing. Well, there are often, it's already happened to everyone, it's sure, well, everyone. Often, there are people who just want to give you money because if they want, get rid of you.

So let's say the person after not because I always said no because I don't want her to come back on my back and I owe her something. And now I have two children too. But before my two children, it would have tempted me to receive money for free, to throw away someone for free for nothing. It's a bit of a escort, but more... I was at home and he said, no, you have nothing to do, I'm just going to send money. You don't even need to exchange anything? That's it, maybe after he would have wanted to. There is certainly something in exchange that comes. You must not be double. Yes.

It makes me think of something while we're at it. When you meet someone, before you actually get engaged, you never know who you're dealing with. Like, this person is a reliable person. What's wrong with that? When I say nothing is supposed to ignore the law, before you get engaged with someone, can you go check on your ancestors? Us girls, yeah, it's super important.

It's called SOQIJ. SOQIJ, Quebec society of legal information. Wait, access. Yes, it's free. How is it written? SOQIJ. S-O-Q-U-I-J. Q-U-I-J.

SOQIJ, Quebec society of legal information. .com,.ca. .goo,qc.ca Puis, ça on peut aller voir là-dedans les antécédents juridiques de nos partenaires. Ce que tu fais, c'est, il y a un anglais qui est gratuit qui s'appelle Trouver une décision. Puis là tu peux mettre les noms de

personne. C'est moi mon genre. Fait que là je pitonne mon genre dans les noms des parties. Puis là tu vas voir toutes les causes à qui j'ai participé, où j'ai plaidé. Puis tu vas voir les quelques plus que j'ai perdu. Mais sinon, And then you'll see all the causes I participated in, where I pleaded, and you'll see the few I lost. Really? Yeah, yeah. So when you meet a guy on the web, or a girl, same thing, you know, from one side to the other, and you don't know who you're dealing with, and you're surprised.

So you see all the judgments that this person has had. So if it's six times that she's in front of the housing manager, or if it's ten times that she's been pursuing the little creditors, you start to know who you're dealing with, or if she's been pursuing because she doesn't pay her creditors. That's completely cool. Yeah, so you can use all the applications on Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, all the applications, as long as you have the name of a real person.

That's a plus. Go on, okay, I enter the name, you'll see what's in it. And there's even a more limited one. It gives me the urge to go see. Google the name. A celebrity. So much. So much. I think I have nothing to complain about,

so you can all go see. Me too. And you can have access to the plumeitive too. It's paying. What? The plumeitive, that means, let's say I was accused of something criminal, and there's no official judgment.

You can still go see my... I don't know if you pay, but you can't succeed. It's worth it. Well, damn! How much is it? I think it's $4-5. That's it! Wow!

Are you having fun? Check me out! Hey, you're gonna be okay. All the stars from Quebec, to know what's up. There's just one apartment to be sure of, we don't forget it. It's very important. It's the most important aspect of the history of sexuality. It's crazy. It's incredible.

It's a very clear extract, everyone needs to know. Everyone needs to know. It's free. You also have the site called Canley, which is also free, but I'm honestly more skilled with the sockie than I am with the Quebec. Wow. Oh my gosh, Quebec sockie. You have to do it, girls. Even when you transition with a new person in your job, are you proud of that person? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Your head is going fast. You're thinking of everyone you want to check out. It's crazy. We'll check it out later. It's very hot. Wow, incredible. We have to focus. We still check it out later. It's very high. Wow, incredible. We need to focus on a podcast again. I have another question in my questions.

Here in relation to the food intoxication, even alcohol. Someone who is... where is the limit? Someone whose concentration... they say that concentration is not valid, then... Not because you drank, automatically your consent is vitiated. It depends on the extent of the intoxication. But the magic word is consent. So if the person is not able to consent, then at that moment, it's not consensual.

So it can really be considered as a sexual assault. Even on the road, you know, consent is from the beginning to the end. So for example, if you insist that he wears a condom and he takes it off on the road, your consent is violated. On the road, your consent has been stopped. Not because you start and you say yes, yes, and then suddenly you don't like what's going on, and then you say no, not because you said yes at the beginning, but because they say no, that the yes has been lost throughout the act.

So when you're asleep, unless it's a phantasm or whatever, between you, but when you're asleep or when you're intoxicated, we can consider that consent is not valid. So from that moment on, the person can be accused of sexual assault. So, if we drink three or four glasses and we're just trying to light up, we're okay. So, I can't turn against someone. No. Well, in the sense that it alters your consent. It's not black or white, it depends on the circumstances.

Yes, and there are only three or four glasses and it's like, it's strong. Three or four glasses. And if you're not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not a person who's not black or white, it depends on the circumstances. Yes, and there are only three or four green, and there are some that are like, it's like, it's strong. Three or four green. And it's also how you can put a judgment on it, in the sense that... But it's a party that happened last week, and there's no one who... It's really someone's word against the other's. Yes. That's crazy, That's tough. The guy says, well, no, I have consent. No, I don't have an agent.

Hey, still! Yeah, but it's difficult. So each one is a case of species. So we can't do generalization. You have to look at what's in it. Even if it's you who went to his house, you were in, you knew, what was going on. It doesn't automatically mean that you were consenting to sexual activities.

Why don't they make lie detector in these cases? They do, but it's not really admissible as such in evidence. It gives an idea, like in the movies, we think of lie detector, but it's not really concrete evidence. Because to make other evidence in front of the criminal court is out of all doubt reasonable to accuse him. While in front of the civil court it's 50% plus 1. We're talking about the story of Roseau. Wait, I didn't understand. Well, that's what I'm going to explain to you. Like Gilbert Roseau, he was currently accused of being a criminal. He's a guy who just had to laugh, all that. It's a very active trial right now. He was pursued by the criminal for sexual assault and he won.

He wasn't found guilty. However, currently, there are... I can't remember the number of women. Is it seven or eight? In short, he was persecuted by the Civil Service for 14 million. But the evidence is not the same. The evidence must show that 50% plus one girls have made a mistake. Oh my God! While in front of the criminal court, it must show that there was the men's riot they wanted. That it was really... So from the moment you make a doubt or that it was consensual or whatever, you can be acquitted,

but you can be prosecuted and sentenced to life in the civil court. The story of O.J. Simpson, it happened a long time ago in California, where he was a football player, if I'm not mistaken, who was accused of killing his wife. He was acquitted, but his family prosecuted him and he won the civil court. So it's not the same thing. And they had won in the civil war. So it's not the same thing. It's two different ways of doing things. I understand. And here too, for example,

you're a victim of a crime. You complain to the police, etc. And it affects you so much that you can't work. What do you do? Do you know that there is a law? I ask you, girls, because you're young, and often you are active, sexually, you go out with your friends, etc. Do you know what to do? Well, if we can't go to work because we are too exhausted.

Yes, because we were victims of sexual abuse, sexual abuse or sexual assault. No, none of them. It's super important, there is the indemnization of criminal acts. So, if I, for example, am assaulted in the subway, or anywhere, even by my current partner, the conjugal violence, or I was a victim of incest when I was young, first of all, there's no time to report. So, if you've been abused when you were 8, 9, 10, 11 years old by your grandfather in the

long run, and now you're 30, you can still file a police criminal complaint. Even if he's dead? Even if he's dead. You can even pursue succession. Can you also do it in the city? Yes, well, those who irritate. If the person is rich and you were abused when you were young, yes, you can pursue the situation. Stop it!

Yeah. Can you be civil? Let's say you don't think he's been in prison enough. Yeah, well, it's because in the criminal world, it doesn't give you a scene. It gives you justice. 100%. Okay? You have the impression that justice spoke for you. In the civil world, it's trying to get money back. And why? How do you do both? Yes, you can do both.

And also, you can do the three. You can make a claim to the compensation program, which is free, for the victims of the crime. What does that mean? Well, let's say you're not... you're a victim of aggression. Then you find yourself in a house of beaten women. You have to find yourself a place to live. Then you're living in a house of beaten women. You need to find a place to live. You live in a house. Then you're not able to work.

They will pay your salary. They will pay your psychotherapy treatments. Then, after all that, if you stay with sequels, I'm not able to get out or whatever, you can have a high salary for your sequels. Okay? So those who listen to us se retrouvent dans des situations comme ça, vous contactez le Centre d'aide des victimes de la criminelle, ou vous tenez sur le web là, indemnisation des victimes de la criminelle,

pis là toute l'information est là, ça donne un bon coup de pouce financièrement. Alors, t'es dans une situation comme ça, tu fais ta réclamation à l'indemnisation des victimes de la criminelle, tu s'en vas voir la police, pis en plus, to make a request to the victim, you don't even need your aggressor to be prosecuted. To the criminal. But, in principle, you do it, and in addition, you can prosecute the civilians. And there, in the civilian, you were a victim of aggression when you were young. You're 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 years old, it lasts 3, 4 years. What do you think is a moral damage to pay back?

You feel like you've been indemnized. 3 million. 3 million? You, Lisanne? For how long? For 5-6 years, you were abused by your great-grandfather. It's not worth it. It's not worth it because it's life. It's going to destroy his whole life. I'm trying to think of something realistic.

I want it to be that person who gives it to you. First, the person has to be solvable. That's it. If the person is a teacher, it's useless. It's nice to have a good judgement, but it's useless to seize. And the social aid provider lives in a lonely garden. You've wasted your time. But the judgement is good, 10 years for example. So you have hope that he will be reneged.

He might win the lottery, he missed a lot of scratchers. Well, for it to be... I would say 500,000 to be sure to eventually touch the money, I don't know. 125,000, that's roughly the maximum amount we're going around. We're in Quebec, in Quebec, so we don't go too crazy, like in the United States, we have as limited as possible the moral damage that a person can have. However, if we raise that, the world might try to, you know, like... Well, it has to be dissuasive.

When it's dissuasive, we say we're talking about punitive damage, but that's not a big amount. So there's a decision I had released, a report, that she was abused by her brother for many years. Her brothers were aware and didn't do anything. She received a sum of $125,000 for the damage. And the brothers were sentenced to $,000 chakras for damages. But how much did it cost them? About that. To give us an idea of... Of fees? Yes.

Oh, still. Why? Well, it doesn't say. The story doesn't tell. But you can find lawyers who will work at a percentage. Not a lot, but still. But calculate that it will still cost you about 1,500 francs, of registration, of? It's because I'm trying to imagine myself, let's say we're going back to the example of congenital violence. I just got back from the hospital,

I want financial justice, for criminals, I want to feel protected, so you're at the lowest, you don't even have the strength to brush your teeth. It sounds like a mountain. How do you... Do you have people who can accompany you in there? But if you don't have money, you're not going to do it. What do you do? There's a center called the CAVAC. The Center for the Victims of Criminal Act. Okay. Okay, really, it's the first place to go. It's a service that's free, where they help you

to make your deposit, let's say, to the police. They's a service that's free, where they help you make your deposit to the police. They will accompany you in front of the courts, etc. And in addition, in recent years, there has been a special court for sexual violence that was also put on foot to help. It's a court where the actors, the judges, all the people who are in this court have more knowledge about help or victims than other types of law, for example. As she said, there is no limit. You can do it later. So right now, you're clearly not someone who just got abused. It's very rare. You're like, OK, let's go and file a complaint right away. It's very rare that they come to abuse you. It's like, OK, we're going to report it right away. It's very rare. So it's later. But just to name a first step, I imagine, like, we read under the information,

and just to make me say, start with that, Kavak, that's all. That's the only thing you have to think about. The rest, it will come one day at a time. I find it important to mention it and... Yes, because there are a lot more people who are victims of violence. And violence is not always physical violence. Sometimes it's insidious, it's psychological violence.

And when it becomes psychological violence, you can't really get out. There are applications to follow each you on your phone. I have my friends. Yes, etc. So, psychological violence can also be as important as physical violence. When I talk to criminals, most of the time, physical violence heals. But psychological violence is the hardest. To get over it. But when you're physically and psychologically, it's all...

It's really... The pain is incredible. And is there anyone who, let's say... We were talking about being, but do you have a sexual relationship with someone who has BDSM? And that there's an accident, like, I don't know, it's their fantasy, it's getting bloodshed. Is the contract they made valid or not? Because it's entering into sexuality? Well, the contract as such, if there's a contract... Are you talking written or implicit? No, no, a written contract. There are a lot of people who practice BDSM and who make contracts.

I heard that a contract wasn't valid as long as it wasn't notarized. No, no, no, a contract is valid. In fact, I have a contract with you. Together, you have a contract between you, whether it's written or verbal. A contract is a contract. It's certainly a written contract. It's harder to debate if there is a debate. But it's still a meeting, a commitment, whatever. So if there is a written contract

that places the limits and the limit has been exceeded, from that moment on, it's clear that he can have actions. But it's not a contract that is valid. It's written contract that puts the limits and the limit has been exceeded, from that moment on, it is clear that he can have actions. But if we impose a corporal punishment that goes beyond, then the consent is made a vicar, so it can be considered as a sexual assault in the end.

But the defense, I think, of the lawyer who will represent the accused person, is that it was consensual, since there was precisely a contract that was written. But did we exceed the limits? Certainly. There are some who, for example, will do asphyxiation, you know, it's a kind of... From the moment the person loses consciousness, in principle, his consent was cleared. So you could say, listen, what you did once I was out of consciousness, well, it went beyond the limits, so you could make a complaint to the police, but on the other hand, you were

a little consenting, you know, how far? That's where I say that it's not black or white, that it's often gray. So he's going to invoke as defense. No, it was consensual. The consent was clear and in danger. So their contract must have a lot of specifications. When I fall asleep, you don't touch me anymore. Or if you touch me, here's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's it.

You have to go into details. But I personally have never seen a contract written like that. I think it's something that doesn't really happen in court. But the Sugar Baby contract, did you ever see it? No, it's recent, it's new. But you know, we see in the United States, obviously, the United States, that's what it is. There are aids to reduce this kind of control. Which I find is a kind of prenuptial contract.

It's a contract that makes obligations, but still, it's never, never, never that we talk about sexual exchanges. Because otherwise it becomes prostitution. Prostitution itself is not really illegal. It's not the person who offers, it's more the client who is sought, who is punished. What can you do if your ex licks nudes without your consent? If it's two major people or two minor people? Well, minor people automatically become juvenile pornography. Even if the two people are 14 years old? Yes, even if the two people are 14 years old, when they are young together and it is consensual,

it is not problematic as long as they are not revealed, etc. But from the moment we leak them on the web, a whole new arrangement has been put in place. This is also really important. It's a form, and I'll tell you where to find it. Basically, it's a new resource called the Request for the Sharing of Intimate Images Without Consent. It's brand new, it dates from June 2025. So when you have a fear or you think that your nudes are going to be leaked, you can immediately call a form that I find interesting, that we give the address to go to.

It's called an urgent request for order, cessation or prevention of sharing an intimate image. So it's a pretty simple form, look at maybe 2-3 pages, that you can put on the digital graph, it looks complicated, but you put a digital graph in Google and it opens right away. If you're a miner,

it's free. When you're not a miner, it's $201. And then quickly it will be taken care of. Ok, and it's... That's when you... someone... Example... Threats you. Ah, who threatens you.

Or... Who did it. Ah, yeah! Even if they threaten you, can you... Yes, yes. It's an urgent order, cessation or prevention request of sharing an image. So if you think you're living this, at the moment, that someone is threatening you, ah wow, you can already go do that. And if you don't have all the information, you fill in the best of your knowledge.

And from that moment on, there will be someone in need who will be assigned to your file, will tell you how to proceed, etc. Otherwise, I would... Does it cost other fees after? No. No? No. But it's new. I'm telling you, it's all reserved. It dates from June 2025. It's fresh, fresh, fresh. It's so cool.

Yes, it's really interesting because it's becoming more and more common. So I'm happy in Quebec that we have legalized and that we have all put it in place. When you're a minor, it's free. And you can even rent here, it's really well thought out. I'm not able to acquire the legal fees related to the request. So even if you don't have money, you can do it right away. But I commit myself to paying for the following days. So if you need to act quickly, you don't have the $ you can go straight to the next day. But I'm committed to paying for the next few days. So if you need to act quickly, you don't have the $201, and that's where it happens. You put it on the website, you print the form, you put it on the website,

and then quickly there will be actions that are taken. If not, what you can do is also... Personally, my TikTok account is still very, very active, j'avais un compte TikTok qui marcelait. Donc, ce que j'ai fait, c'est que j'ai fait une plainte à police. Et là, la première réponse de la police, c'est « ouais, mais t'sais, il y a beaucoup d'harcèlement sur le web, là. » Parce que j'étais considérée comme une personnalité publique, donc ça pouvait affecter... t'sais moi, je représ victims. They accused me of helping the victims' aggressors. Forget that, it's so far from my niche. And what am I doing? You know, helping the citizens and everything. So it was annoying.

So the police finally succeeded in obtaining from TikTok the IP address of the people behind that account. Then we went to meet the person. My intention was not to deposit charges at all. It was a poor girl, etc. Who had a problem. Then we just said to stop and it ended there. Did you point yourself out?

No, the police. Do you know who it is? Yes, I know who it is. I didn't do anything. Does she know you know? Yes, she knows I know you know who it was? Yes, I did. I didn't do anything. Does she know you know her? Yes, she knows I know her. But the count was... Did you know her?

I didn't know her personally, but I knew who she was. I didn't want to give her trouble. Did you know who she was? Yes. But did you already know who she was before...? No, okay. I had doubts. It always ends with someone telling you something.

But no, that's really when we did that. Otherwise, there's another quest that's interesting. When you want to know who's behind an application, you can make an order from Norwich. You can also seize the court and say, it's causing me a loss, I absolutely want to know who's behind this account. But I won't hide from you that the TikToks are very frivolous. They don't want to give this information.

They really want to keep freedom of expression. Freedom of intimidation, moreover. So it's difficult to get as such. So what you have to do, like on Google, if there's something that refers to you, there are three little dots, you can click on it, you can point the account, etc. So, there are possibilities on TikTok, Meta, Face, Facebook, Instagram. But, I'm sorry, I'll come back to that.

Is Lafay someone from your entourage or did you know her existence before? No. Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's it. It wasn't really after me that she had it. or that you knew about her existence before? No. Okay, okay, okay. It wasn't really after me that she had it. It was more for the person I was associated with. Okay. Yeah.

So... But I found that interesting too. Very cool. To have lived it myself. Now I understand more how it works. So the answer is, there's something. You have two actions to take. Police and your request in full speed, free for minors, it's very important to take note, or 200$ that you can even pay a little later to do that quickly. It's new, new, I want a 2025 in Quebec.

It's crazy, bravo Quebec! It's fun, isn't it? Is it that if, in my youth, I sent videos to a lot of people, I sent videos, photos, and these photos have already been shared with friends of that person who told me they had shared. Is there a way that I can make sure that these photos, videos, at the moment, in the right time, I don't care, I don't want to... Is there a way to do that and ensure that the person who has these photos has no access to share them? Yes, we could, but I think at this point, it's already been a few years, I would undertake steps to get them removed. I had a road accident, which was a really big accident. But everywhere in the newspapers, fractures, survivors, etc.

they tried to find a job. And unfortunately, on the web, the bosses will keep the name to see the extent of the accident they had. So we did some steps to remove Google, to remove the newspaper from Montreal, etc.

So that it doesn't get damaged in a future job. Why would an accident damage it? Well, because employers don't want people with disabilities. It's not supposed to be like that. In real life, it's not supposed to be like that. Your medical antecedents shouldn't stop you from having a job. Except that we know it. Just like I told you,

you go to the gym to see the employees. But the employees do the same thing. But it's an accident. Yeah, but despite everything, she's a risk-taking person. Absence for illness. Okay, okay, okay. And if she gets hurt, they will be held responsible.

I understand, I understand. Okay, but let's say my pictures aren't on Google. The pictures are on the phone. Well, I would fill in this form, but as I said, it's new. So, how does it really work? I would fill in this form, then I would ask to make some steps to do it. It's like that. But did you make the first request,

saying, listen, give me back my photos, or would it be the first step? Yeah, that's true. But as far as they're not shared. But no, but it was when I was at the end, at the beginning of my career. It was like kids. And I know that after, I didn't see that guy anymore,

but I knew that it was on. What was it? Videos of me doing little dirty dances. Scratch. Do you touch in the videos? And there's a video that I knew. Oh yeah? Well, that's pretty graphic. But you know, the portal to his friends video I followed. Oh yeah? Well, that's pretty graphic.

But you know, he shared it with his friends, I think. But at the same time, he probably kept the video. If he shared it with his friends, automatically, that's considered legal. That's criminal. I can come back to that, even if it's a bit... And how do I do to... Well, I... Yes, I would still take the step.

First, I would... How much money can I have? Did you cause any harm? You were a volunteer. No, I wasn't a volunteer. I'm a criminal. I would pursue it with a little bit of faith. A little faith? I would try to share it with several people.

I thought about that. If you ever listen to me, you can arrange with me a little bit of a... Erase the photos first. Remove the photos, a little bit of a 3000 and we don't feel the shit anymore. Really? You're an avid fan of the gang, I'm really naising for real. I'm laughing, but I know there are people who... For real, it didn't bother me that much.

I was like, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. I'm not like. I was like, nevermind. It's not like it was embarrassing what they saw. It didn't bother me that much, but it's more the fact that today, when I have two children, if they still have those videos, that's what I would like them to see. First, you ask for some money.

And if they are on sites, you could ask for them to be withdrawn. No, no, not on sites, I'm not going to get involved. No, but sites or places, you can ask them. Okay, perfect, thank you. Well, that's a call to all. All those who have notes from me, delete them. Thank you, yes, that's good. Me too, from everyone.

It's just going to make sure that people say, it's true, I have notes from them. They go back to the cell. We still have what we need to do, to put them back in the front. We're going to think about thing. We still think that we can put them back in the past. We'll forget about them. When can sex sign fall into illegality? Well, a bit like photos. As far as it stays between us,

it's part of our fantasy, our exchange, our relationship. It's still from the moment when you don't want to, so the magic word consentment, when you don't want to and you ask him to destroy them and share them. That's where it becomes problematic. Between minors, it's still consensual if it stays between two, between people,

and that there is no sharing with friends on the network. But even there, minors, let's say a 16-year-old guy sends pictures of a dick to a 12-year-old girl. How old is he? He's 16, she's 12. Let's say. I would have to check to be sure, but in the criminal code, they make distinctions between the age difference. That's right. So it depends on the circumstances, but it could be considered as juvenile pornography,

because at that time, both are minors. And the age difference, I think, is still a bit big between 12 and 16. 14, 16, 15, 17. When you're two years old, the other years old, it's more acceptable. They say minor, but technically, the legal age that you can consent to sexuality with someone, no matter what age, is 16, right? Yes, but the age of consent, yes, but still, it's 18. Or if you're no longer considered minor. There's a change, you're considered major. It's like at 12, you can choose medical care for yourself, or at 14, but you're not considered major for that.

So let's say someone 16 years old has a relationship... Let's say a 16-year-old girl has a relationship with a 40-year-old man. Yeah. And then she says she was consenting and that... It can still be considered illegal. Even if... Because she's under 18. Even if she was consenting at her age.

Yes, but he's older and not older than a lot. So it's more like a minor detour. It's more... But it has to be who den... Because we understand that she is not the one who will want to denounce. Can the parent denounce or is it... Well, the parent can denounce certainly. It's the parent who could... Yes, she too, she could.

You know, sometimes when you're younger, you think, unfortunately, that's what we often see. We think we want to, but we are often with people who are in authority. We talk about coaches, hockey, paternity. Yes, that's legal. Yes, doctors, nurses, psychologists, teachers. Now you're in an authority position. Now it's even more serious. But when you're young, young, under 16, 18 years old,

and the person has a big age difference, there's not really an excuse, even if it is consenting. Okay. So it's the age of consent, but not necessarily legality. Exactly. Yes, it is very well explained indeed. Okay. Yes. But still, given that everyone is a case of a species,

we can think of the Vedettes who had, sometimes, with managers later or whatever, or when they want to, but with a attachment of authority. When you're 12 or 13, and there's a 40-year-old man who grooms you, if you'll allow me to say it, are you really consenting? You're 18, you're technically legal, but... But you'll often realize that it wasn't normal. And that's when we say, again, bravo Quebec, there's no time to file an accusation against a criminal. Let's say the coach is 12 years old, the coach does nothing, and at the age of 18, he develops something.

Is it still a nature was just groomed, it wasn't voluntary, etc. She could make a request. And whether she will win or not, you know, everyone is a case of despair. We should see how it went, what was going on. What is the difference between a process when you go to the police with a complaint versus in the civil case? Because with a complaint, I've already done a big process anyway. between when you'll complain to the police versus the civilians? Because complaining to the police, I've already done it, it's a big process anyway.

What's the difference with the civilians? That's why when you do a process for violence, sexual affairs, you have the cavaque to give you a big push, so you're helping out there. It doesn't cost you anything. So it's really, you're going to see a policeman who will submit your... he's going to do an investigation. He's who will submit your case to the Attorney General, the Crown, who will decide whether or not to file an accusation.

So even if you think your case is a piece of cake and a great proof, if the Crown thinks it won't have a guilty verdict because there are too many holes in history where it doesn't hold, etc. At that moment, she will not file a complaint against the criminal. And if you have complaints and you want to remove your complaint, like often in the case of conjugal violence, you have complaints to call because you just got beaten up a little, you make a complaint, you remove it because you have complaints and you feel bad, the police can still put charges on you.

Whether you want to or not, it doesn't belong to you. It belongs to the police and to the prosecutor general, to the court. But it's also because once the person tries to withdraw his complaint, you're like, you're no longer in possession of your means, and you're no longer necessarily in control. It's more like, remember! That's it, remember, take it off! So if they see that there is really violence or whatever,

they won't listen to you, they'll do the same. It's a good thing. It's for sure that, when it comes to the trial, or when it's time for a sentence, or a negotiation of a sentence, it's for sure that if the person doesn't want to testify, the chances that the person is really condemned are lower. So often, they will have a hearing in Lamia, or whatever.

So ideally, the person has to participate in the process. This is at the criminal level. At the civil level, it's more like, it's more financial. As I was saying earlier, girl who was pursuing her brother... What are the people doing to find out? Are there people who will make sure that the evidence... No, the civil world is your burden of evidence. It's your job to show that you were in such a circumstance,

that it wasn't voluntary, that it happened from year to year, that it caused you such a loss. For example, if it prevents you from working for four years, you can still continue for damage. So I didn't get paid for four years, I was doing 40,000 a year, it's 160,000. Earlier, when I was talking about my time, it's moral damage that we're dealing with at 100, 125,000 when it's serious. So in the civil, it was moral damage that we had to pay at $100,000, $125,000 when it was serious. So, in the civil sector, it's really more you who has to do it.

And it's like any other pursuit. You even have to prove that you're pursuing the contractor who has badly damaged your roof. But you're all alone. No, no. You can't do that. You have to take a lawyer who helps you out. So, that's for sure that it costs money to the civil. Yes, that's it. So to the civil, you have to pay your attorney and... You pay your attorney, period. That's it. And how do you make sure that the person remits you, let's say that he doesn't have the means to give you $125,000?

Well, before you go into a lawsuit, you check if the person is solvable. How can we do that? You can hire a detective who will go and check for credit inquiries. You can pay for that on the website. It's easy. You can find detectives or credit inquiries. For example, when you want to rent a house, you will do a credit inquiry. Same thing, the person has a job, he does the trans-union fax, those who cut your credit. So you're able to know roughly.

And you know if there's a job or not. There's a house, there's everything. So from the moment you have your judgment, you have 10 years to execute it. Okay. So can he be in several positions? Or does it have to be? Well, at that point, you can agree with the person as such

to be paid. But you could seize the house. Ah, yeah. Yeah. At least that. It's a call. Well, you pay me or not? I'm going to exercise my rights. If you don't give me my money, well, I'm going to seize the house.

But you have to commit the... Commit the fees. But when you... Let's say the person owes you 125,000 and it costs you,000 of this, $10,000 of that, etc. When you go to seize the house, you won't just have $125,000, you'll have $125,000 and the fees. Is there anyone who doesn't have $15,000 but who has a big pursuit to do on $125,000, but there's a big pursuit to do, precisely, over $125,000. There's a way that it's after a few bucks. There are lawyers who will work on it, but given the time,

and when I talk to you about $125,000, I'm a little generous. Otherwise, it's mostly around $35,000, $50,000. So if you don't want to pay lawyers, never, and organize yourself, 35, 50. So if you don't want to pay for an advocate, never. And organize yourself. So the Quebec Courts of small credit is 15,000 dollars less. Calculate. Let's say I want to pursue

for the person for 25,000, sometimes you're as good as going down your credit to 15,000 in front of a court that is much easier than paying for a big advocate. So my stamp is small credit. So let's say someone owes me 20,000. I'm going to pay a lot of money. So if someone owes me $20,000, I'm going to bring it to the small credit and I'm going to be satisfied with $15,000. That would be my suggestion. Well, have you heard that? I told you yes.

I'm threatening you. Ok, we have a lot of other questions. Here, here, here, wait a minute. Ah, well, go ahead, leave them all. As long as I go get them. Your rights if you are a victim of harassment after a Tinder meeting that goes wrong. It's criminal harassment.

Okay, criminal harassment, precisely, you know, I am followed. You know, sometimes the limit is immense. I didn't think about that, but I'll talk about it. I have a man who writes to me at least 8 to 9, 10 times a day. An old date? No, not even a fan. Sometimes he'll take print screens, let's say, of the interview here, and then he'll turn them around and say, it was beautiful today, your dress was beautiful,

things like that. It's always very, very polite. He's in my restrictions. So, I mean, on my messenger, I don't see him. And he never arrived at our place, whatever. So I'm not really scared at all. At first, what I considered as being a flatterer, after that, I started to understand that it was a bit toxic. But I'm not really afraid, so I didn't do anything necessarily to...

From the moment I'm afraid of someone, at that moment you'll see the police and you could always ask for an 810. That is, you want a commitment that won't come to see you, the distance, etc. So it's the same principle whether it's on Tinder or anywhere else, if you're harassed, then you feel bad or they pass in front of you, well, automatically, you'll go to the police to be sure. I told my entourage, anyway, if one day I disappear, well, you know who it is, I would have given him the name.

Oh my god. Okay, but you can also declare something to the police. Let's say you say, okay, I have a doubt about this guy or this woman, I really have a doubt. You go and declare to the police and that finally, there may be a case, maybe there were some cases. There are antitheses. Can't the police tell you that? Did you check if he had forewarners? Did you check your website? Well, no.

Oh, well, yes. No, no, no. I could be prosecuted for defamation. Same story when I was talking about Judbert Rosa. He was prosecuted for defamation. A person who had denounced him. So we can talk about them without saying their names, right? He was persecuted in defamation, a person who had denounced him. So we'll have to talk about them without saying their names, right?

Well, that's it. But in the sense that you, after... It's a good idea, I think I'll go, I'll go. We want news. It's funny, huh? Off camera, we want news. Are you crazy? No, I'm not really afraid of them.

We never know. We'll keep that. Cordonnier, I'm going to check, I haven't even scared of them. No, no, you never know. We'll keep that in mind. I tell you to go check, but I haven't even done it myself. You know, the predators, the girls, they weren't like, Oh no, I had doubts. No, no, there were no doubts. They were super thin and they were a fucking fucker. You know, no, no, no. There are people who have doubts that are often made to have.

They're good, the tabarouettes. I have a hard time. But you have to go see that. If we go to the police, let's say, we'll go to Madame, we'll say, tell Madame or tell Monsieur, I have doubts, I have doubts,

can you ask him if he has any files? Yes, you could ask him, whether he'll tell you or not, it depends on the circumstances. But before going to see the police, you need proof. You can't just have doubts. You need proof. Screen capture,

maybe witnesses who saw him. He went out of the house at 10 o'clock. I know it because I'm taking out my trash. It's still a big crime to accuse someone of a crime. Go to the police? Go to the police and say, Chris, I would like to cut myself. And probably the first step will go to the police and say... I would have a couple.

And then, probably the first step will be to call the person. The policeman, in my opinion, his first step is to call the person. Listen, I have Lisanne who came, who told me that... Let's say it's a fake Instagram account. Well, if it's a fake Instagram account, and it's serious, then you have to have screenshots all over the place. If it's a fake Instagram account, and it's serious, and you need to have screen captures all the time, if it's really, really serious, then the police can do as they did in the file I had,

so try to get some social network, who is it, IP address, and make steps. But it still took, if I'm not mistaken, a big 7-8 months before we discover who it was. But really, it's going to be worth it. And will that end up in my bag that I took out his stuff? No, not in your bag. Bag, no.

Only if he's condom-free. You know, in the bag, what we see more often is more what is civil. You know, I have the administrative court of the housing, it's necessary, it's occupied for those who are all civil. For the contestation. If you continue, you meet a guy and he gives you your name and he sees that you're always in the court. We'll say, it's a specimen, it's there. You hold me.

But imagine a guy who doesn't stop contesting tickets. It's going to be there. You know he's a claimant and he doesn't let go of the piece. He's good or not, it depends. It's good to go to another podcast. We said to go to another podcast, just to say if you've experienced something, abuse, whatever, and you don't want to complain, you don't want to go to the police, whatever,

just to go to the police and say it. Because if they have other... If this person... There are other things about the person, it can really help the case. Well, you have professionals from Tinder who will actually burn women, steal money from them. Women who will also steal men. Absolutely, absolutely. Sugar Baby contract or not.

It's all... It's from one side and from the other. So it's a good way to know exactly in what you're involved in. The socket, as such. And then going to the police, well, if you see, the guy, he still had a file. That's how I knew the person

had a more difficult childhood. So it was like... I just wanted it to be final. Often, that's just what we want. Well, yes. People who are bad people, people who are unhappy. Yes, and sometimes we lack judgment. If we think about it, if we've done everything, we'll say, « Maybe I should have thought about it a couple of times before. »

So we shouldn't generalize too much. There was an event, a decision that was made in 2020, where the girl was 61 years old, and she was talking to a man who was 59 years old, and she had dick pics of the guy. She said, I'm going to show them. And she said, no, no, if you show them, I won't be able to, I'm going to kill myself, I won't be able to go through all of this. She published them, the guy killed himself.

Let's see! Yes, it's the Gosling arrest, it's a 2020 judgment. And then I said, the girl is going to be accused of murder, or something like that. No, the person, the girl was sentenced to 10 months in prison, after being released from probation for 3 years. So you do your 10 months in prison, and then you're in probation for 3 years, or she wasn't allowed to use the internet for 5 years.

And the reason it was just 10 months in prison, which I think is not enough, is because, and I think it should be an aggravating factor, the man as such had big bipolar problems. So, would a person in a certain position have gone to the suicide act? The person was already sick. Was it a man?

Yes, the man was already sick. So, he was bipolar. So, yes, following the leakage of the photos, he committed suicide. How old were they? She was 61 and he was 59. No! She posted it on Facebook! No, I don't know. The story says that,

I don't have all the judgment, but she published the images of the man by revenge. What did she do? Because... He had pictures of penises. No, but what did she do revenge. What did she do?

I think he didn't necessarily want to maintain the relationship. I don't know what. It was twisted. And in addition, a relationship of a few days. So he says, I can't spend a brief relationship. That's what we say. A few days. Then he said, listen, I wouldn't be able to live with that if you show me my pictures of my penis everywhere on the web. Then he went to bed. I think the prison

It's crazy. You don't expect him to do it for real, do you? Well, Lel didn't have a novel, she didn't have any. Oh, well, damn. Oh, well, Lucielle had little babies. Oh, you had spiders in the... Yeah. What... To finish, we'll continue on the Patreon, but are there any things that...

You had your... We'll put the links of the sites, I think, that you wrote. We'll put them down. Is there anything else? Your TikTok. What's the TikTok again? It's MaîtreSophie. M-E, to put, lawyer. So we'll put everything in the bio.

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