Shaun Newman Podcast - #1005 - 222 Minutes

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

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Welcome to the strong newman podcast folks and today twos is going to do the ad read so this should be fun he's been teasing me all the entire time as we've been here that I'm too comfortable and I'm sitting back right now and I'm looking forward to hearing this anytime too oh now I can you know anytime usually in a professional organization they'd give you like the gun the wink in the gun or they'd flip you off somehow quietly all right so I don't know if you guys been following around the cost of silver lately, but an ounce of silver has been all over the map. End of December, it was less than $100. It went up to $150, it dropped down again, and now you can buy 49% of an EV battery

factory in Windsor with one ounce of silver. It's a wild ride. Hey, too, thanks for coming in the studio, by the way. There you go. Okay. All right, you're messing with my ad read. That's fine. Thank you.

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You should just say if you're, instead of your listening, feel free to leave a review and subscribe. Now on to that tale of the tape. Ladies and gentlemen, he is just getting over a syphilis infection. His leg still hurts real bad. I'm talking about Sean Newman. You forgot to do the... Anyways, you can put you... I assume you had that post...

No, no, no, no. There's no post-production on that. this i'm gonna give it to jack jack i'm gonna be like listen cut it out of both the five minute mark because we there's five minutes of stumbling through until you actually begin and then we're off for the race so welcome to the shah newman podcast folks i guess uh there you go there's your ad read for the day yeah i told you my my notes it's got more mistakes than my taxes sure no yeah yeah two's in studio folks first time in the new studio yeah what do you think i love it i think it's great you got to do some dusting, but other than that.

Yeah, I do. Yeah, I got a syphilis, didn't you here? So, like, I mean... I was expecting your nose to have fallen off by now. Yeah, well, it's, it's, you know, it's itchy. So, you know, I'm a hopeful it'll stay. And in the meantime, I haven't got around the dusting anything. I've been, you know, kind of bedridden, so...

Yeah, well, that's probably how you got syphilis. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, anyways. Shout out to Jamie for leaving you Bohemian.

Yeah. Jamie, you're the man. Where you're at Tuesday is like, I wish I had a bow. I'm like, funny enough, I got a case of him. Well, and also funny enough, he's like, I don't have the fridge here yet because of course he doesn't have the fridge here yet. And so he's like, well, you know what? If you want it cold, you can just leave it outside for a little while.

It is minus like 27 today. Yeah, but I feel like you've never had Bohemian in your life. I've had Bohemian. Have you ever had it cold? Yeah. Nobody has. It doesn't exist at a cold state. No one's ever had it.

Okay. Okay. And then we also had firehouse subs. You know what I really like about firehouse subs? Is it left you a pickle? You get that pickle. They're very crunchy pickle. Tews calls me up yesterday, folks.

He goes, actually text me. Call me ASAP, all in capitals. That was after you didn't answer when I called. Right. Right. And so I was like, okay, what's going on? I'm thinking, you know, lots of different things. Hey, you're around tomorrow?

I'm like, uh, sure. What are you doing? Driving up. We're going to sit in the new studio. All right. So this has been a, uh, longstanding opening night, twos. You want to come in by all means. And so I was waiting on my first opportunity to be in a situation where I wasn't going to leave the store hanging.

And I had time off from the day job. And this was it. And so I thought I might have to drive up last night. and that's why it was to call me ASAP. Now, I've already given you the silver coin, but you do get a silver coin, one-ounce silver coin from SGB. I'm sure they're tickled pink

that Tews is finally getting one for being in studio. The silver has been a wagon. You pointed out well in the ad rates. 150 at one point. Me and Kenny sat right here, and I was like, I don't know, it's like 92. Is it going to be 100 before the end of the year? It was 100 before the end of the year.

Then I got the 150 Canadian. and now it's back to 102-ish Canadian. So it has been all over the map. So that's been an interesting thing. Tews, do you collect any silver? I mean, aside from this, yes. Yes. Yeah, so I got a little bit.

Actually, when it was going through the roof in early January, I sold a little bit of it kind of rebalance things. Oh, did you? Yeah. Yeah, nowhere near the top. But higher than it is now. Yeah. And actually, super easy.

because I just went on to silver gold bowl. This isn't a paid promotion. I mean, but this part isn't. But I just went on there because I was like, well, how do I go about this? And then, oh, I've got a profile on there. I open it up. And they've got all the stuff I bought from them.

Okay, here's the silver. How much do you want to sell back? Push a couple buttons. Bada bing, bada boom. That easy. It was. So I didn't know. I was like,

I don't even know how to do. this and so I tried giving him a call and the guy was like we're pretty slammed right now trust me it's super easy you just got to log in and I'm like but how do I I don't even know he's like just check one of the emails it's all going to be in there and I was like okay well fair enough I guess they're busy they're busy I'm not going to bug them too much and then okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but a boom and honestly I had it done in less time than it would would have taken me to just verbally tell him over the phone. Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty easy. I'm going to go to Substack, okay? I threw it out that you were coming in studio. Yep. And I think it's quite relevant. It's Kevin. He says, thoughts on the debate, and can we redo it live in studio? I assume he means the debate we had on the mashup last week.

Yes, mashup. Right. So, again, props to Chris for... Hoping on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's been really frustrating because, and I think it's indicative of the situation here where you've got one side who is just foaming at the mouth and chomping at the bit and wanted to jump out and talk about this. And you've got another side who's like, I'm not going to debate you. I'm not going to debate you. I'm not going to debate you.

And generally speaking, if you have really strong arguments, you get really excited about presenting them. And if your arguments are junk, you try and cover your junk. yeah you know like a can and so you know it's it's been really hard to that's what they're for shaw no carry on all right so anyway um it's been really hard to get anybody on on the other side of this willing to sit down and have a discussion and so props to chris i think i felt like a lot of his assumptions were, you know, he took a lot of economic fallacies as given truths throughout the whole thing. You know, he talked about how, you know, the reason why we, we pull all our money together to pay for health care is because it's cheaper. You know, and, you know, there was a bunch of things like that

where a lot of his understanding of this country and how things work is based on economic mistruths. And so that was interesting because I feel like if he and I could just sit down at a pub for an afternoon, you'd be like, okay, from the get-go, why do you think this? And why do you think this works this way? And let's step back. and, you know, I think one of the big things with people on the left is that they haven't analyzed things critically. And I'm not saying that to be a dick.

I'm just saying like, you know, you try and simplify it as much as you can, you know, when he was talking about how the UCP sucks because our healthcare system is busted because people are dying in the waiting room. And Sean, I mean, we've covered how many different instances across every province of it happening. You know, we've done it in liberal provinces, conservative provinces, NEP provinces, which aren't serious provinces. And so, you know, if you're mad at the UCP for doing this and you think that it's a failure on their part, where are you on the other parties with completely different approaches where it's also a failure?

And if you were to just scrape everything back until you found a common foundation between all of these different provinces, I feel like you would probably have to acknowledge the fact that maybe the entire overarching setup of health care in Canada is done poorly. Right. And so there was a bunch of things that I kind of wanted to get into them with a little bit. And I would have liked to have spoken a little bit more. But I thought it was really good and interesting. I just found it. You know, there was a couple points where I was like, what?

Say what now? What are you dropping? My phone. Okay. All right. We can put it away for a little bit, though. So anyways, I don't know. That was my take on it, was that...

You think I could put my phone away for a bit of sitting on my knee. I got substack questions on it, you jerk. Okay. I thought it was fun and interesting, and I had a good time doing it. And the problem with a bunch of the pushback that I didn't give him in a lot of places is that I would have had to just literally start from scratch and be like, okay, so economics is now is an analysis of tradeoffs, right? And you know, build it up from there. And so so that was kind of tough. What did you think about it?

Oh, I think it's always good to hear from the opposing side. I mean like I have had to have like three or four really interesting interactions lately. I was saying this with David Parker, Chuck and Tim Moore. Or Tim. Yeah. That I've actually kind of come out of my shell a little bit more and just started bringing up in random conversations. Just see what happens, right? And it's funny.

I even brought it up with the lady I interviewed right before this. Okay. And she was against it. I was, oh, okay. And then I let her keep talking. And she talked about how poor Canada is right now and how it's not the country. You know, and I was like, I feel like the more you get people to just, just start talking about it, really interesting things start happening.

And so, like, the thing with Chris is, you know, the thing that I've messaged them about this, right at the very end, he says, you know, I'm just scared, I'm going to lose my house, I'm going to lose the country I love, and I'm going to lose my passport. Those are the three. I wrote them down, and I emailed them or sent him a message on X, hoping that I'm going to hear back, still haven't yet. The passport, I think I understand that fear. Okay, you're going to lose a passport, but it's a passport, you're going to get another

passport or you know like what do you do you're going to lose the country that you love fair enough we all go go through that grieving stage losing my house i don't understand i don't know what he was meaning there well i'm not quite sure either i saw some really convoluted sort of i don't know um the crazy crazy crazy part of leftist twitter was talking about how it would invalidate all of the mortgage insurance and so then banks would just no longer you would no longer have a valid mortgage okay and it seemed so they're worried about that but they're not worried about what's going on in bc with cowichin and and giving all the first nations fee simple title yeah yeah i'm not so to be to be clear like this was you ever read something that's just almost unintelligibly

poorly written and that was the kind of stuff I was seeing about this mortgage stuff like we didn't even talk about it on the mashup because I'm like I just I can't I can't smarten this up enough to a point where it's English and we can discuss it now I'm not saying that's what he saw but if it's if he did see that and maybe saw a better version of it that could actually be taken seriously maybe that's where he's coming from but it was kind of like how um know there was like three people out there who thought that 5G was going to give you COVID. Right. Like the exact same sort of mentality and poorly thought out ideas, but on the extreme left.

Hmm. This reminds me when we talk time travel and can to so on and you're like, this galatees lost it. I'm like, nah, I don't know. I'm not saying 5G can give you COVID. I'm just like, nah, I don't know anymore. There's a lot of stuff out there. I'm like, I don't know. I probably just haven't graduated into that realm

where I believe everything or can get to some of those realms. It's just when you come back to the housing thing, okay? You go, oh, we're going to lose all our houses because we're no longer part of Canada. That makes zero sense to me. It's like, no, the bank still wants you to pay your mortgage. Yeah, yeah. And they have nothing but incentives

to just keep you paying that mortgage because the amount of time and hassle they go through. for a foreclosure or something like that. Well, money, money to me makes perfect sense. Yep. Right? They want you to keep paying.

No. What didn't make sense is when they froze bank accounts, right? And now that wasn't, I mean, obviously the bank played their part in that. But that was pushed on by the government. So then they freeze bank accounts and that makes everybody, whoa, whoa, what are we doing here? Because banking is really simple. Now they're doing a lot of different things. Evichipiak was the latest one that got her.

You're too risky. It's like, okay, well, I tell you what, go read it. Have you been reading Ben Trudeau's book? No, I haven't even cracked it yet, aside from just reading the, it's been a busy week. No, no, no, no. The reason to bring it up is he was, he starts talking about back in like the 1930s, I want to say. So you finally got a copy of it? I did.

Better late than never. I think it showed up before years. It was just sitting in the mailbox that I didn't realize. Anyways, what he was talking about was back in the 30s. The French couldn't get loans from English banks, so the French started their own bank. And I want to say the number he had was like $27 is what they started. They pooled together at the beginning. Okay.

And now it's like a billion dollar entity, right? See, that's how the Bank of America started was that the Bank of America was originally called the Bank of Italy in the States. Really? Because they were all like, hey, we're not going to give any of them whops alone. and so anyways no Italians could get loans for anything and so they started the Bank of Italia and then they realized it would be slightly better marketing to rename it the Bank of America.

Yeah, yeah. So I mean stuff like that. Here's the thing is whenever there's a market need, somebody steps up to fill that void because there's money to be made. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And that was kind of the point of the middle of COVID.

I'm like, man, should just start our own bank. I wonder how hard that'd be. Probably pretty hard, I'm guessing, because you've got five giant ones. True. And now in Alberta, you've got the country line on everything. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Oh, I want to circle back to that whole time travel thing. Sure. You've been thinking about it a lot. And here's the main reason why I don't think that Candace Owens is correct about the whole time travel thing, is that you can't invent time travel without having first invented interstellar travel. because the earth is rotating around the sun, which is rotating through the galaxy, which is rotating all around a big black hole in the center of things.

Okay? So if you were to teleport yourself to the exact same place at a different time, think about it. Like if you were driving down the highway in a car and you went 10 seconds back in time, you wouldn't be in that car anymore. And it's the same thing with the planet. So if you teleport yourself back a certain distance in time, you're just going to be floating around in nothing.

And it kind of makes me wonder, like how many people invented time travel and then froze to death in the cold vacuum of space 10 seconds later or before, depending on how the verb tense has worked with time travel. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, because of that, I don't think Canada.

What's one thing that you didn't think you believe in, that you now believe in? You know, you poke fun at like time travel and stuff and like, fair enough. But what's one thing to is that you're like, you know what, this is a stupid idea? And then like a year or two later, you're like, well, that wasn't so stupid. That's interesting. Something I thought was a stupid idea, but gradually came around to, I mean, heck, even just like, you know, the first time you invited me on the podcast. I was like, what are we going to talk about?

And I think I can't remember if I said to you or I just said it out loud while I was typing you. This is such a stupid idea. You were wrong. Yes, I was wrong. Yeah. Kind of, I'm kind of a big one. So.

So I have that. Yeah, yeah. I got that one on you. Yeah. I got that one. Yeah. Like what are we going to talk about? There's nothing to discuss.

There's plenty of discuss. We were just watching Rosemary Bar. and off air, but on live hot mic, right? They go from her. And she says, it's all, what did I say? It's all made up anyway. It's all made up anyways. Right, like.

Well, I mean, there's just so much idiotic, performative theater out there. And it doesn't matter what side. Like, look at the, um, look at the floor crossers, right? I mean, we've touched on this a little bit, but really in kind of a rapid fire mode. Yes.

So Bill Blair's resigned. Christia Freeland's resigned and then now I guess sneak preview of tomorrow's mashup we're going to talk about how the Supreme Court decided This will come out until after tomorrow's a mashup, right? So it's not a sneak preview. It's a Thursday so it'll come out Monday. Right, tomorrow's Friday.

All right, fair enough. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so anyways, a reverse sneak preview of last week's mashup because I guess now we have invented time travel. It's, uh, well, you're learning, you, to the, to the audience, right? If I record something on Thursday, it airs on Monday. Every other time, it airs less than 24 hours later. Oh. So if this was a Wednesday, it'd get, it'd get aired, you know, real fast. I'd be super stressed. It's probably why I'm not stressed. I'm like, we can record for three hours. I got nowhere to be. I don't have to be, uh, anywhere. I don't, well, I could be wrong. Mel could be blowing my phone up going, where the heck are you? But like, as far as a podcast goes, I don't have to race and get this up to Jack so that I can get out for tomorrow.

Yeah, he's also doing salsa dancing, by the way, which is awesome. Yes. It's much, it's a lighter, cleaner version of guacamole dancing. You know, if you wonder, folks, is two like this in his personal life? Like, he's just, at times, he's just like, what are you doing? Yes, yes, he is.

I go stay at his place. I'm like, can you just shut up? Can he just stop? Stop you're doing? Yeah, nope. Tuse does this all the time. Yep, Mrs. Tuse gets irritated about it. I mean, we were just talking about the...

Everybody gets irritated. It's like, just shut up. Shut up. Why are you going to do it? Why are you going to do it? You're such a dick. Yes. Yeah, actually, you know, anybody who's known me for, you know, buddies from high school,

they'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody, wait a sec. He made a joke and none of us heard him. And if we don't stop and listen, he's going to be mad about it. What was the joke you just made? Right? Well, now I don't want to tell you guys. Aaron goes,

where do we put our energy in federal politics as we strive for independence? Okay. This goes back to the whole floor crossing thing. I don't know. Can we crack open the whole floor crossing thing and talk about, all right? Yeah, yeah.

I would really love to see a good poll where it asked a few questions that were all, more or less the same thing is basically and i would love to see it worded exactly like this how many shits do you give about federal politics you know a few shits no shits a moderate amount of shits most of the shits are all the shits right and then and then since that last floor crossing would you say that you give a few less shits many many less shits about the same amount of shits a few more shits or severely more shits about about the federal um about federal government

yeah and then how would you feel also about the conservative party under those same things and the liberals under those same things and then um and then it would say you know is the nDP a serious party and then the own answer would be no right and those are the kind of questions i'd want to see in a And so then you would have this context, which I think would show you that people in Alberta are probably checking out of federal politics at this point. Because what the fuck's the point? Even if I vote for somebody who says they're going to be conservative, they just dipsy-doodle over to the other guys. What's like I can't even, you know, going through their process that they assured me is going to get me some of the other guys. representing what I'm looking for, aside from the fact that they, the conservative party

ebbs a fucking lootly does not. But even if you had that tenuous grasp on things where you were like, okay, well, you know what, I can do this and it's going to work out okay. And then, and then dude just like pulls off the mask. He's like, surprise, cockfags. And goes over to the liberal. It's just, it's going to disillusion people. And I think if there's a federal election any time at all in the near future,

the liberals are going to pick up a lot of seats in Alberta, not because more people are voting for them, but because there's going to be a whole bunch of people who did vote conservative that just can't be fucking bothered to. So in other words, if you're Albertan, you're putting zero energy in federal politics at this point. Well, probably. I mean, you look at it.

I mean, they just had Pierre Pauly up back here. They just had their AGM. They just brought in all the social media influencers. They brought in a big show. They did. Although I believe Rachel Parker was not allowed in. I believe Jason Levine wasn't allowed in. There was a couple others that I saw.

We didn't even get invited. Yeah, well. And I would say, you know, Marty, was talking about how he figured it was more like, you know, East versus West thing. They didn't want the Albertan influencers in there because they didn't want to hear anything about independence. but if I'm being really critical of the people who are on that list,

there are people who ignored big warning signs regarding the conservatives in order to continue putting out a positive message about them leading up to the election. And I don't think that's unfair or unreasonable. I mean, we've talked about it on the mashup, pointing out specific examples. And so they wanted people who were going to tow the company line, tow the company line, which is interesting because it's also what they want in their politicians. It's why they kicked out Sabrina Maddo before she could run, why they kicked out Wyatt Claypool.

And then they get in a bunch of yes men who do whatever the leader or the inner circle of the party tells them to do. So for example, unanimously voting to pass Bill C202 protecting the dairy cartel, from international trade competition. How much does that help out small town Alberta? How much does that help out Prince Albert, Saskatchewan? Fuck all. Fuck all. If you were going there strictly to represent PA,

you would vote for no dairy cartel and more knives. But that's not what happens. They go there and they vote for the dairy cartel, which tells me that they're not actually there to represent their people, they're there to represent the inner circle. And so you've got people whose hiring criteria is based on whether or not they're willing to fuck people over under the auspice of doing things for them as soon as it's for their own personal betterment. And then you've got to suddenly pretend to be surprised when that person fucks you over under the auspice of your betterment

in order to further their own personal benefit? Like, seriously, it's just hiring a bunch of snakes and then being surprised when you get bitten. So you're saying put zero energy into federal politics? Yeah, yeah, I guess circling back to the question. It's not like I feel like I'm Charlie with the whiteboard and the yarn right now and you're like, okay, but that first thing in the corner?

Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, put as much energy into federal politics as you want, but this would have been a perfect time. Tell me this wouldn't have been a perfect time for a Maverick party to still exist. Well, so let's talk about conservatives. Maybe they didn't want the Alberta message in the AGM, that thought process. I think they just want a yes, man.

No offense, guys. Maybe. I don't know. I just look at it and I'm like, let's even play out the thought that they just don't want to have a differing thought process. It's dumb. I mean, that means you're removing a huge chunk of Albertans from even remote or elsewhere, right?

Alberta isn't the only place that's got an independence movement happening. They're all over the place. Like, you've got, you've got Saskatchewan, you've got BC. Honestly, and I think I said this the other day, if I lived in Ontario, I would be voting to separate from Ottawa. Be like, just let's put a wall around it. Fuck it.

We'll let Quebec have it. Quebec goes, no thank you. No, merci. All right, here's a different one. This is Earl, okay? A few questions from an Ontario. Okay. Looking at Albert Independence from 30,000 feet.

Full disclosure, I get it and agree on principle. We all need less Ottawa, a lot less, like none. Well, he'd probably sign that petition too then. But my overwhelming gut feeling is the powers of B, i.e., the crown and globalist bed buddies, will stop at nothing, including espionage, terrorism, murder, et cetera, et cetera, to prevent it. And then he goes on to say, Tom and Alex touched on this subject, but I'm interested in your take. Security, so he has three. Security now for the movement.

Security for the actual voting process. I think it will get sabotaged before it gets this far. Just my gut feeling. And security going forward with potential independence. Have a great day. boys. Hey, Earl. Always good to hear from you. So I've been, if, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, I've been, I've been trying to bring on a bunch of different people and ask this. I'm like, okay. Okay, well, now you got me. Right. Well, Alberta's, Alberta's the third largest oil reserves,

right? Proven oil reserves. Proven oil. Thank you for adding that. Then just tack on all the other things, right? All the lovely minerals and all the grain farming and the cattle. and all the things. All the stupid mountains, getting the way of more farming, yep. And you go, are the powers of beach

is going to let us voter way out and go? Hey, this isn't, all right, I'm going to piss off probably somewhere around a third to half

of the people listening right now. All right, rock and roll. Which I've never been afraid to do. Okay, so first off,

you guys are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. All right. This isn't something that you need to tie up in a grand conspiracy. It doesn't need to be a bunch of people in London sitting with like

drapes in front of their faces around a giant boardroom table speaking and hushed voices about the future of the world. This doesn't need to be that. You just have to look at simple response to incentives. If you're in Ottawa, like if you're a liberal. So I don't think it's unfair to say that Alberta is the linchpin holding the country together right now. I would say that just the money that just keeps everything from grinding to a screeching halt is coming from Alberta. So you don't need to get shoulder tap from Davos to see that it's important that if you want Canada to continue to continue as it is, you need to have Alberta not leave. Okay. And so the liberals want it to stay there.

The NDP, well, I don't know. They're probably eating crayons. I bet you even Elizabeth May would admit to some extent that it's important to have Alberta and the oil and gas revenue to some extent. And if you're the conservatives, all your fucking votes come from here. So yeah, you don't want them to leave Confederation either. Because if they ever do, all of a sudden, you get down to like fourth, fifth, ninth place party status? That's it. Game over, man.

So there isn't a single federal party that doesn't have some form of entrenched incentive towards keeping the status quo. And then furthermore, if you're the liberals, do you want to be the party that was in charge when the wheels fell off the train? No. No. So on top of all of that stuff. So, you know, it doesn't need to be a grand conspiracy. every single person who has their hand on every fucking lever of power in this country wants Alberta to stay exactly where it is and shut the hell up and keep paying for everything. So yeah, I think I don't know about assassination attempts. I mean, it would be pretty easy to assassinate me.

You'd just be like, I don't know, put some strict nine in the bohemian. And good to go. but I can see it getting real dirty. I could see it getting real greasy. I could see if anybody emerges as a very prominent front and center leader of this movement, they are going to get dragged through the fucking mud. And I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing sort of. Okay.

So one interesting thing about the petitions is you can only sign it once, right? And I think that that's shitty. because now granted they probably didn't think about this at the time but let's say I am a blue-haired idiot and I put on a ball cap and I take up my septum ring and then I go sign up to be a canvasser and collect signatures and I get a bunch of signatures and all these people are like oh yes I sign that petition and then you just gleefully cackle and go running into the woods and light it all on fire and accidentally burned down BAMF again. Okay?

Those people think that they signed the petition and they did, but they won't get counted towards the final total. And I bet you there's going to be a little bit of that somewhere along the line. And so if you were able to sign multiple petitions, if you were able to sign multiple times at multiple places, then you could mitigate that a little bit.

So the question was around security. And you're saying you don't need a grant's conspiracy, you're not worried about security. Oh, no, no, no. It's securities, but I guess the context of Earl's question was do you need to be worried about security because the globalists and yes yeah it's it doesn't even have to be a globalist because it would play out exactly the same whether the globalists were pulling strings behind the scene or whether there

were no globalists at all in the first place this would play out exactly the same every single person with their hands on levers of power has a very deep incentive to maintain the status quo this country. So they have a really deep status quo, like to keep this like a deep incentive to keep the status quo. Why does it look like they're doing everything but trying to keep it that way? Well, they're also dicks. They're super arrogant. They're completely aloof. You look at even, even look at the campaigns that the conservatives run. They're not really speaking to anybody with dirty hands and and cowboy boots with a little bit of shit on the sides of them.

They're talking to the most, like, the most blue-collar people they're talking to live in sub-suburbs of Toronto. So they don't know how alienating they are to just regular folks out west. And they probably don't care because there aren't enough votes.

and they probably think that we're just a bunch of backwards idiots who aren't going to be able to figure this out anyway. Like, sure, hand the baby the car keys. He's not going to know how to start it anyhow, right? Is probably a lot of that mentality of just, we're so much better than them that even if we give them the opportunity to do this, they're not going to be able to figure it out.

I see them, I don't know, do you have any reason to not think, that there are anything but contemptuous of us? The politicians? Yeah. The group of, um, whether the outright politicians or the people, the staffers. When I first started watching anything to do with politics, I can't remember what year it was,

2019 maybe, 2018, maybe, I don't know, it was Trudeau. And he was making a speech and he listed off every province, but Alberta. And I don't remember thinking, there's no way, there's just no way that happens. because the first thing you would do Like no way that happens accidentally you mean Thank you sorry Because there's If it was accidentally

The first thing you would do Like the next opportunity Like holy crap I didn't say Alberta Full stop I didn't say Alberta Yep Or you'd catch it at the end and be like Oh and I forgot Alberta Like I'm an idiot

Right and you and you But like it doesn't Nope It's like That isn't an accident And you start looking at you're like Hmm This is just gonna continue

to play out, isn't it? And it just keeps happening in different ways because being treated fairly in Confederation is more than they're willing to give. It's, it's, um, I guess, uh, I disagree with you on that it doesn't have to be a globalist, well, it doesn't have to be. I'm saying, but the truth of the matter is, it would play out exactly the same whether there was globalist there or not. Well, you, okay, you take a 10,000, you take a 10,000 foot view of Alberta. Okay. And you go, okay, Canada obviously doesn't want it to leave. Yep. The United States, United States definitely wants it to leave. I would say probably.

Probably. Well, no, no, because here's, it's, it's like, it's tradeoffs. It's tradeoffs. Okay. So on the one hand, you would have a freedom, hardworking, good bunch of people who want to build the stuff to extract and export the stuff you need to keep the country going. Correct. On the other hand, you know that.

right now everybody to the north of you is a fat idiot that's never going to be a threat they are being a threat fat idiots are being a threat okay but they're not nearly the same sort of threat as it would be if

you had I don't know um 60s Russia there or something like that right like you you know what you know and who knows what Alberta could eventually evolve into if they were freed from the idiotic shackles of central planning and centralized death care and equalization. And, you know, we can basically just be like Wakanda with snow.

Right now, what is the latest immigration numbers? I don't know if you know this off top of your head. Ooh. I think something like 23%. I saw a graph. David Parker told, said earlier on the podcast. In 20 years,

20% of Canadian-born people will be toast. Oh, yes. Sorry. And right now, the boomers will be gone. And at the end of those 20 years.

We just saw in Alberta, the number one name, if you add up all the spellings, is Muhammad. Seriously? Yeah. We're doing that thing? Oh.

No, no, I'm just. Well, no, but it was funny 20 years ago. You remember with McLevin? Where he's like, I was thinking. thinking about getting the name Muhammad and like Muhammad are you fucking retarded. Hey, it's the most common name in the world.

Read a book. And it was funny back then because while it was the most common name in the world, it was not the most common name over here. And now that stopped being funny. If this keeps up, what else is not going to be funny from Superbad is like if if we keep going to the direction we're going in him drawing giant dicks all over all the page. just in 20 years might not be funny either.

Well, you just, you look at it and you go, okay. Yeah, big, fat, happy, nice people that can't do any harm. It's like, well, no, I mean, overall, their largest border is one of the easiest borders to get into at this point. I think we can all agree. Yes. Their population is changing over faster than anyone cares to admit. What does that do long term?

I can tell you. I'm sure there's some people with some thoughts. But everybody's fat and stupid here. Do you have any idea how much material it makes to make a suicide vest in quadruple XL? Well, they do fair. But we are strengthening ties with China. I mean, I don't know if China's the biggest rival in the world, but the United States certainly thinks so. Yeah, also, can we get some reparations for that whole coronavirus thing?

Like, I think there's a pretty valid claim. even if you think it got magically released at a wet market right next to the virology lab, which stretches credulity to say the least. Also, I didn't know this for the longest time. Do you know what gets sold at a wet market? No. Fish. That's why it's called a wet market is because they sell fish, okay?

How many batfish are there? That makes sense because it always goes to a wet market and there was bats being sold there and you're like, how the hell is not wet? Well, I never even occurred to me to ask, well, what is a wet market? market. I just assumed it was, I don't know. I never even, and then, oh, a wet market is where you sell fish? Yes, yes. You'll get, you'll have the sturgeon, you'll have the jackfish, you'll have some peck roll right next to it. You'll have some fucking bats. I'm glad we don't serve bats. I think the United States would prefer to have Alberta out of Canada. Okay, but I'm saying that there is,

there is a little bit. And I would say there's probably other powers of be that would prefer Alberta to stay in Canada and that would not be the United States take that where you want it to go okay but also like not just in terms of who knows what it might become but also you know there's potential there for them for for an independent Alberta to become on at least some level not not a toe to toe level but you know on some level the better Alberta does internationally that's going to cannibalize a little bit of the U.S.'s success a little bit now that like they would get Like, just assume that if we start making, I don't know, fucking pens. If we start making pens and selling them.

Yeah, we're going to cannibalize the U.S. on pen market. Well, yeah, yeah. Bick is going to say, well, hey, man, we sold like 3,000 fewer pens last year because they've capitalized on the market and the Dutch pen market, right? You know, there's going to be little things like that. And so on a on a micro level that would happen. trying to make the argument. No, I'm just saying, I'm just pointing out that there's going to be tradeoffs even if some of them are very slight.

Sure. That's it. I still say the U.S. wants us to separate. Probably. Although, if Northern California gets to a point where the independence movement surges ahead any further, they probably won't. Like, the countries that are going to want us to separate the least are going to be Spain because they've got the whole thing with Catalonia. Honduras and China because of Taiwan, right? Because if all of a sudden you start legitimizing

offshoot provinces saying bomb voyage motherfuckers, then that opens the floodgates to everybody else. Sure. I mean, sure. But I mean, yeah, you have to have a government, like if the United States wasn't for it, I don't think Alberta would stand a chance. No, no, because the one thing that,

you ever watch Map Men? Map. Map. Map. Map. Map. Map. Map.

Okay. This British YouTube series, it's hilarious, super dry, but they just go into maps and things that are interesting about them. And then it's like

if you had money Python go through an Atlas. Sure. Okay. And so they've got a couple episodes about one of them is how many countries are there. And the other one is

how do you make your own, like what do you need to do to make a country? And so the big difference between legitimate, because it depends on what list you look at. There's no set number of how many countries there are in the world. Did you know that? Because there's a whole bunch of contested ones. Look at Palestine. Canada recognizes Palestine as an independent nation. There's people on the UN that do, but there's other parts of the world or other countries that don't. And so, you know, if you asked somebody who doesn't recognize Palestine is as or doesn't recognize their

sovereignty they're going to give you a different number for the total countries in the world than Canada because they would say oh we have to put Palestine on the list and the other people would say no same thing with China and Taiwan there's some countries that recognize Taiwan as an independent nation and some countries that don't and so their internal number of countries differs and so and then when it comes to what makes a country, there's a whole bunch of people

that have had a whole bunch of different ideas about what actually makes a country. Do you have passports? Do you have things like stamps? Sealand is a really fun example of that any aircraft tower in the English Channel. Okay.

Well, they took all the anti-aircraft guns off at the end of World War II, but they didn't take the big platform down. And this dude was outboating and he's like, oh, I wonder, I wonder who lives there. And it turned out nobody. And so he decided to live there. And he said that he calls it Sealand. And they have passports and stamps.

And they get a few random documentary makers coming by every once in a while to talk about goofy little micro-nations. Because that's his country. actually it's I think it's the guy's son or grandson now at this point but the point is is that different countries have different levels of legitimacy sure and the big deciding factors seems to be whether or not any prominent countries recognize it and that's where Alberta is kind of under the gun because if Trump is willing to recognize it you don't know who's going to get in next Like I saw Polly Market just said that the odds, the betting odds for Jesus coming back are currently better than the betting odds for Kamala Harris becoming president.

But you don't know who's going to end up there. And so, you know, if we could get to a point where while Donald Trump's still in and that administration is willing to recognize a sovereign Alberta, well, boom, all of a sudden we're on the map. And as gay and retarded as it is, we get a seat at the U.S. United Nations just because we have to establish the to help establish the legitimacy can we send twos is our guy at the unit oh man we'd like a 222 minutes what is your actual name sir twos what they call me yeah so here in Alberta we we go we

choose our own names all right yeah um yeah that that old name no no I I get the fact that you've got that on an old birth certificate but that's actually my slave name When Alberta became a sovereign nation, I got twos put on my passport. But, no, I, oh, man, could you imagine? I have to rub shoulders with Bob Ray. I feel like it'd be good for you. No, it wouldn't. Knock you down a pegger, too.

Knock me down a pegger, too. I'd be walking around in $10,000 suits, telling everybody how important I am. Isn't that what you do when you go to the United Nations? We wouldn't give you that budget. Okay, I like that. All right. I'm on board. We give you a healthy dose of gunslinger T-shirts.

Yeah, and I could just show up with an old busted up pair of shit kickers. Yep. All right. Okay. I'll be an ambassador. I'll be like, yes, yes, the representative from the country of Alberta. That's a fucking retarded idea. Gaville.

When do I get my gavel? we make a lot of headlines that way I mean the problem with those incredibly bureaucratic organizations is that they have completely lost touch with reality and real people I mean we talked about how Germany did that big speech the other day

about how they wanted to do something that was pro-business and became the exact opposite and everything just gets around in bureaucracy you think you'd be a politician No. I don't think so either. Oh, thank you.

Good talk. Good talk. I meant me too, you Jack. I don't think I can do it either. Like I stare at that world and I'm like, man, it's a rough world. Well, I mean, if you're even a remotely halfway normal person, the only remotely normal person we've had in politics in the past, couple decades has been

Rob Ford and he had to smoke crack just to get through the day. We've had some normal people in politics. It's just not in prominent roles. Yes. And also you saying that killed my punchline. So thank you. Well, that's what I'm here for too. Mm-hmm.

Yes. Well, how's your both? Oh, it's delicious. It's the exact perfect temperature. You want one? No, not really. All right. So I don't know

That's I don't even know How we got on to that thing It's been a meandering Meandering Well you know normally what we have Is we have a list of 700 things And I'm so mad at you

Because you've populated with 700 things Yeah And today we don't have the 700 things And so I bring up the three And you meander I'm like this is what happens This is why I need the list This is why you need me

Keeping you to task I'm a very list based person Yes Uh huh yeah No no I'm like I'm not being funny like I'm very much like yesterday at the store Mrs. twos said oh hey I need you to do this thing before you go and I was doing something else and so without even really sort of just you know when you're like a

really good workflow and so I've got the notepad that I've got beside me and I just write down what she said on the notepad and I keep working and she's like hey I need that today I'm like yeah I'm in the middle of something here but it's just list check it off move down check it off move down on, right? Just like the mashup. I've been getting up at, up until the infection,

I was getting up at 4.30 in the morning. Oh, yeah? And starting out with my list and like getting things done. Yep. Kids' schedules have been just absolutely ruining me lately with hockey and all the things,

school stuff, just everything. It's just a busy time of life for kids. You're full of shit. What are you talking about? Poop. You're full of it. Okay.

you said you were getting up at 4.30 in the morning. When we talked yesterday, you said, because I was going to come up last night, but you said, I've got an interview with this lady first thing in the morning at 10. Your exact words were first thing in the morning at 10. Yes. That's the kind of thing I expect to hear in Nova Scotia. First thing in the morning at 10. Yeah.

It kind of is in the middle of the morning. morning, I don't know. But yes, I was waking up at 4.30. I don't know why you think I'm full poop. I haven't been waking up 4.30 because of the leg, but I was. Put it back in the deck. Said Jack, erase this part, please? I don't want people. No, I'm like, no. I literally was waking up. Oh. Oh. Oh. That's nice. Yeah. That's very well done. Okay. I'm like, what did it bring out to? You know, Tuesday ain't coming back out here for a bit, folks.

We're going to set up a laser turret. And it's going to have facial recognition ID and the only guy I have to worry about. Tews. Yeah, that's fine. I'll just go back to being the box head. A bunch of Cases guys. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't want to. You've been watching any of the Olympics? Just the curling, but we're going to talk. Well, I guess actually by the time anybody hears about this, we'll have already had a subject matter expert on to talk about this on what will have been last week's episode

oh, the grammar. The grammar of time travel. It's really tough for you, eh? It's easy on this side. It's, I mean, did you ever read not just the first book, but like the whole series Hitchhackers Guide to the Galaxy? Nope. Okay, we're done here.

Okay, so in one of the later books... Are you trying to tell me I should read that book series? Yeah, I can't believe you haven't already I watched a movie See now that was pretty good Had most deaf in it It had Alan Rickman I was actually kind of disappointed though

Because I was so excited When most deaf came and did a concert When I still lived in Calgary And then he didn't even get on stage To like 1230 at night 1230 at night Yeah Yeah the opening act was on at like 730

Wrapped up around like 8 And then it was just like Where's most deaf? Where's the most deaf? Well, he's most definitely not here. Did you stay for it? Did anyone stay for it? Lots of people still stayed for it.

I probably heard two songs, and then I was like, I'm just so mad about the fact that this has been the situation that I'm leaving. And then I went to karaoke. It was awesome. You're a karaoke? Oh, yeah, a karaokeist. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's our word. but yeah.

You would be. I ever tell you about being in Finland and them singing karaoke? And it being like hilarious? In English, right? They're not singing karaoke. Well, yeah, yeah, but they'd have the crazy Finnish accents and they'd be singing something like...

With no like... You like good friends in new places? It didn't sound quite like that, but... Okay, so... It's not not like that. Okay, well, how was it? It was like a bunch of tone deaf people. Like they couldn't, they couldn't.

That's most karaoke. In a foreign language. Ah, yeah. I imagine. And all of them absolutely loving it. It was in a very interesting room to walk into. That would be all right. You just did it the one time?

No, it was part of the one bar we went to every night. every night it was there okay it's also the only place I've ever you know you go used to be a teenager or a young man you go to the bar and the women would all be dancing together and you try and like get in the women circle and they swat you off you know what I'm talking about maybe I mean I wasn't really the kind of guy I got swatted off but I know sure yeah I knew I knew exactly I was gonna say fineland was the only place the men did that sorry the men were swatting you off No, the men danced in a circle And swatted you off

When you tried to get into the group And swatted off women As they tried to get in the group The women came Tried to get in the group I don't know It's so weird And then you know

You fast forward 20 years And everybody's talking about Declining birth rates Oh hello boys Can I join you Go away women It was a It was a

remarkable night. I'll say that much. I was dating out at the time. It didn't bother me any. I was like, oh, whatever. This is the strangest thing I've ever seen, though. Yeah. And it was strange. I wonder if it was like this reverse psychology thing. Well, that's what I was wondering while we were doing it. And it was like, when walks in eight, it gets repelled. I'm like, I'm like, I'm, that's interesting. She's a good looking girl. And the next one comes in. She was like 11.

I'm like, this is interesting. And they repelled her. And you could tell she was like, kind of like annoyed by it and walked away. And I'm like, this. This is, and it just kept happening. Like, women just kept trying to bust in. Did any of them pass the test? No. The guys are like, no. It's a man tonight.

We're not, no women tonight. I'm like, this is strange, whatever. I mean, it didn't bother me. Once again, I was dating hell. It was like, whatever. But, I mean, that whole part of the world, the women are just kind of on a different level. Like, I spent a lot of time in Denmark.

I used to work for a Danish company, and so lots of, like, months over there. You lived in Danes. Denmark? I didn't live there, but I spent a lot of time there. What were you doing in Denmark? Drinking mostly. Yeah.

A lot of Fisk. A lot of Fisk and Tuberg. Yeah. What were you supposed to be doing for work at that time other than drinking? Well, that was just specialized downhole tools. So sometimes, like, I'd been there for training on the tools. And then at one point, it's like there for a month for, like, management training. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't actually work there. It was all educational. But you'd go to downtown Copenhagen and like just every single woman there was a knockout. But it was weird because they didn't know that they were knockouts. They had no concept of the sliding scale that the rest of the world lives on. Like if you were to take some completely average, maybe even a little, bit dumpy woman from Copenhagen and drop her off in downtown Edmonton, she'd be causing

traffic accidents. But over there, like it was funny because like I was taken at the time, so I didn't really get to have any sort of fun and interesting stories aside from just surface level interactions. But you'd go up and you'd ask for some directions or something like that or even one of the guys you were with tried to impress them a little bit unsuccessfully. and they were still friendly and approachable and everything like that, despite the fact that if you were to take them and put them in downtown, like if you were to put them on Stephen Ave in Calgary, they would,

I don't know, they'd probably start naming the bars after them, right? Like they'd probably, I don't know, holding an impromptu parade. And meanwhile, like if you were to talk to just some regular girl on Stephen Ave, she would basically size you up and down and want to know what kind of car.

drove before she'd even let you buy her a drink kind of thing and you take just an average girl over there that's super fun and approachable and interesting and she's a million times more attractive than the ones who had a very large chip on their shoulder over on this side of the pond oh i just remember them liking speaking english that was the other thing is everybody there would always just apologize and they would be like i am so sorry my english is so poor. Please be patient with me. I'm trying to articulate it as best as I can.

You hardly even have an accent. Your English is perfect. What are you apologizing about? They were all convinced that they had shoddy English, and none of them did. In 26, what's something you want to do with the mashum? We've had our first debate. We had our first mash spiel.

Yeah, I would say that as far as live events go. Last year was the first year. that you wanted to get up the charts on the SMP? It was number one. Yeah? I don't know. I mean. All from something,

what are we going to talk about? This is a terrible idea. Yeah, okay, all right, let it go. Let it go already. And then Alexander wept for there were no more worlds left to conquer.

I'm so smart. My name is twos. Well, no, it wasn't that. I was just like, I don't really have anything interesting to say or contribute. So why would you, like, why do you even want to talk to me?

I sometimes wondered that. No, it wasn't, it wasn't like, it wasn't like, oh, I can't just soil myself with conversation with you. It was like, what on earth do you think that I could possibly add to a conversation? So what do you want to do in 2026? I don't know, man. I mean, we already had, uh, we already had the mash spiel. So, I mean, that was, that was pretty good. That was pretty good.

I tell you what, I was against the Mashbill, folks, if I'm being honest, right at the start, and I was like, curling Bonsfield. But that was a lot of fun. Yep. And I would say that as far as live events for conservative media in Canada, I would say it's probably the best one that's been so far this year. Yes. Yep. Yep.

Well, that's exactly. So you want to do another curling bond spiel in another year's time, essentially. Well, I think we kind of have to. I mean, there's a lot of people who, now granted, this is going to be selection bias or survivorship bias, I guess. But I didn't hear even a hint of negative stuff or even neutral stuff.

Everybody was over the moon about it. Even the people that had never curled before and it was their first time. I mean, Eva had the time of her wife. And then now I see her on top. Twitter talking about the whole curling thing in the Olympics. And I'm just like, this is awesome. Because everybody on Twitter is suddenly an expert on curling.

And none of you were at the mash spiel. Right. But yeah, as far as ever goes, you know, she's getting right into this discussion about curling on, on Twitter. And I'm like, ha ha, ha, gotcha. Because that's how you just get them. She's hooked now. She just fell in love with curling. Yeah, we witnessed it.

Yeah. We listened it. We also witnessed Eva, you trying to pay off the women to let them, you know, for you to just win. You tried a lot of different ways. I give you a lot of credit. Well, I mean, there's a lot of different ways to cheat in curling. I mean, you can put your finger on the granite as it's crossing the hog line. You can do a last minute adjustment to the rosters in the brackets.

There's all kinds of different options. I don't know. So, I mean, granted, I can't do too many of them. And I don't imagine everybody would want to go to one every month or something like that. But things like that, like that was an event that for me anyway, and I think for a lot of people, it was just good for your soul. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was a healthy event to go to.

I had a shirt at Cannis. She also listens to the mash. up. She's been like, you know, it'd be nice if we had the odd thing that wasn't just such a doom and gloom, you know, because like, you know, the state of Canada doesn't leave you a whole lot to, no, a whole lot of hope, I guess, right? Like, there's just a lot of heavy. And so the mash bill was very light. Yep. Like, even think of what we did in the middle of, uh, um, in the middle of it where we got up and spoke for like 20 minutes. I'm like, well, we probably could have done better than that. But at the same time, it was like, like,

You're coming here to curl. We're going to just relax. We have a good time. This is not about what's going on in the world. This is about hanging out with community and having this is fun. Exactly. Yeah. And I don't think there was anybody there who took it too terribly seriously, aside from Parker.

And Carrie Ann. Carriand and them came in and they won. Yeah. Yeah. Showed to Carrie Ann, first Mashbill champion ever and her team I might have. And thanks again for coming on the mash up tomorrow, which is yesterday or three days ago and talking about it. I don't know why you have to keep bringing that up.

It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. You realize because some people are going to listen to this Monday. Yep. Some people are going to listen to this until like a week past. Oh, okay. So I shouldn't be specific on the day. So thank you, Carrie Ann, for coming on the mash up on the mashup on the

Friday before this was released, which may not for the listener be necessarily the day. You're trying to jump through all these mental hurdles. Thanks for coming on mashup 196. Simple. It's right to the point. It's actually matchup 196. I like my way better. Thank you for coming on three, no, a day and a half ago. It's basically the ad read of thank yous. Uh-huh. Yeah. Stumble across your words. Unbelievable. Yeah. Youer has an apostrophe. Yeah, I just, that's just kind of like notes. I just kind of, you're right. It is kind of like notes. It's not exactly like notes.

guidelines. Just reminders. Oh, I got to talk about it. Oh, I got to talk about that. You know, that's what I do. I don't need to have it spelled out. I don't need a teleproper. Well, you literally don't need it spelled out because it sure the fuck was it.

No. Yeah, I knew as soon as you read that. I'm like, yeah, this can be bad. Because I even, like, I had East of Ladook on there for Kalmar for, like, for, like. three months and every time I go by it I'm like it's not east of the duke it's west of the le duke I don't I just change that and whatever and it would still say east of le duke like we're the mash bill we're gonna be in calmar alberta east of the duke and then I'm like wait a second that's not right it's west of the

leuke why does it jump back and forth between fonts I don't know okay because I probably copied and pasted it from somewhere and then put it in and it gave it a certain font and I'm like well whatever it doesn't bug me your laptop isn't even open right now and now that I'm thinking about it my eyeballs starting to twitch yeah me this is why me and twos are two completely different people

you need it like a perfect not perfect proper grammar put commas in where you need them fix the spelling mistakes and have it the same font in size throughout the document that's not asking for perfection that's just asking for a base level of uniformity.

I just need pronunciation, pronounce it, pronunciation. And a general direction of where you want me to go. It is the worst person in the world to sit across from and mispronounce a word, folks. Full stop. Especially the word mispronounce. Yeah, you couldn't make that up. Hey, you want to hear about the. crazy karaoke place that I used to go to in Calgary.

Sure. All right. So I hear about from somebody who heard about it from somebody who heard about from somebody that there was this underground Korean karaoke place. It didn't even have a door. It didn't even have a sign. And where was this in? This was in downtown Calgary.

Okay. So there used to be that like. So obviously you're like, yeah, I kind of want to go see this. Yeah. So. Because even I understand. I'm like, even, you my God, I kind of want to go see this. Like a top secret.

Korean karaoke place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And so where there used to be that master's pub kind of on the end of down on the west end of downtown for anybody listening that knows it. It looked right into an alley. You would go down that alley and then a little like a couple buildings down on your right. There was this car park, the carport. And so go down there. And then there's just a bunch of giant Asian dudes sitting on. around a table smoking cigarettes and playing cards. I don't know, maybe this is the place. So go walk by him, open the door, just a complete blank, unassuming door.

And then it's just flashing lights and oomts, and, you know, people dancing and singing karaoke and you go down there and you get this remote. It's like the size of your laptop with all these buttons on it in Korean. And then there's, because you get your own room. You can go to the main room or you can get your own. room if you go there in a group. So we got our own room. There's a light switch that you flick to ask for more like pretzels and chips and

stuff like that. And another light that you would flip to ask for more drinks. And then there's this coffee table, couches around the back, and this giant remote with a bunch of stuff that you don't know what any of it is. There isn't a single bit of English on that whole thing. But there's this poorly translated, like laminated card. Okay. And so you eventually figure out like two buttons and then you're like, okay, well, I guess we're either singing Ring of Fire or the look by Rock Set, right?

Because those are the only ones you figure out kind of thing. And, you know, you try and push other buttons and then it ends up going like if you ever get your TV stuck on another language, you know how hard it is to get it back? Because the instructions for getting it out of that language or never in a language you can speak. Sure. Yeah. So this was kind of like navigating this remote. go there have a great time go back a few times and and then just kind of forgot about it and I hadn't been back there for a few years and then this completely different group of friends of mine that I'd

never been there with um we're saying like hey we should do some karaoke I was like I got just the place okay so we go there and it was it was November 2nd because it wasn't Halloween and it wasn't the day after it was two days after And so because sorry, we didn't all go there. Two of us went there to just do a little bit of recon because it had been a while and I wanted to make sure it was still there. Because bars live and die all the time in downtown areas. Sure. So I'm like, okay, here's, here we go.

We go down the alley. Here's the carport. We go underneath. There's nothing there. Like there's no table. There's no giant Asian dudes smoking cigarettes. There's, there's, you know, none of the chairs that they were sick. on.

There's nothing obvious about the fact that this is a karaoke bar. Except there's a dude standing there all by himself in this empty carport in like a Halloween costume. One of those ones where you're like riding a dinosaur and you got the fake legs up front and then your real legs. Yeah, he's got like one of those. And I remember because it wasn't Halloween or the day after. It was the day after the day after.

So it's November 2nd and he's still in his Halloween outfit. And he's like, oh, hey guys, what's going on? I'm like, oh, nothing. Just going to check out the karaoke place. He's like, what karaoke place? Like, dude, the karaoke place behind that door. Like, there's no, there's no karaoke place there. And I'm like, dude, if there's no karaoke place, what are you?

Like, he's looking at me like I'm crazy. right? I'm like, dude, you're still dressed up from Halloween. What are you doing here if there's no karaoke place? He's like, I'm not the weirdo here. You guys are the ones looking around for a karaoke place that doesn't exist. And so I'm being like gaslit into being the crazy person by a guy who's still wearing a Halloween costume on November 2nd. And I'm like, okay, well, check this out, motherfucker. And I opened the door and it's a broom closet. There's like a mop. There's nothing like there's staircase going down. There's no nothing. It's just like a mop and a bucket and maybe a couple

other random sort of things. And he's like, see? Like a weirdos. I swear to God it was here. And it was exactly like George Costanza with the butcher shop and the that the bar that was the bar for the pretty people. That's exactly what happened to me with this karaoke with this Korean karaoke bar. where I went back one day and it's not so much that it was closed up like they still left the door open which I thought was weird because you'd think that

you know with the amount of homeless people and everything downtown you'd lock up all exterior doors and why would you have a broom closet that opened to a carport none of it really made any sense but I was like I swear to God there used to be a set of stairs right here

and a karaoke bar that was awesome and now I don't think it exists Was that your story? Yeah. I don't know. What else you want to talk about? I'm like, where's anybody else going?

Where's this story going? I'm like, I don't know where this story's going. Well, how weird is that? Are you taking a picture of me? I am. Why? Oh, and I just sent it to you. Because I got Nick texting me wanting to talk,

and I was sending him a picture saying I can't. Oh. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. Oh. Actually, I. have I had a couple neat ideas that I'm sure are actual horrible ideas and execution that I was going to talk to Nick about. So we could do that afterwards.

We could do that. What? You got this like that. He's like looking at me. And I'm like, what? What? What do we want? What do you want?

Well, I don't know. Do you want to hear my revolutionary idea for Silvergold Bull warehousing? I don't know, do I? Well, probably not, because if one of their competitors are listening, they're going to steal it. So maybe we should just keep this one under our hats for a little. This one on our hats? Okay, then I want to ask you a question.

Yeah. Okay. Alberta independence is raging. Yep. It's all the rage. Okay. We've had a debate on it. I've had multiple conversations on it.

Some people are for it. Some people are against it. You get the point. Now, Saskatchewan's talking about it. Mm-hmm. You think it's possible in Saskatchewan? Probably, if anything, just, as likely if not more.

Also, one thing about, I hate shit talking it. I don't think it's really shit talking it, but I don't want to dampen anybody's spirits. Okay. But I got my canvassing badge a little while ago. Okay. And so I had this whole giant lineup of people who are like, okay, when you get it and you can take signatures,

let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know. So I'm reaching out to all these people, and they're like, yeah, already signed, already signed, already signed, already signed, already signed. I'm sure there's still a lot of people out there that haven't, but I feel like the giant lineups that we were seeing at the start and the huge turnouts that are probably petering out a little bit were the people who were very fervent, hardened supporters. Sure.

So you don't think it's going as well as they're putting out? Well, I think that the early successes should not be assumed to be a constant. It's probably like your cephalus, right? A really big flare up at the start. and then it kind of peters out a little bit, right? You're putting the Alberta independence movement to syphilis, okay? Well, I mean, it's spreading all over. So I guess there's that.

But no, just in terms of... If there's a listener out there that lives relatively towards Calgary and wants to assign a petition that twos himself... Anywhere between Calgary and Red Deer. There you go. I don't know. Maybe somebody hasn't signed yet, Tuse. I was waiting for Tews.

There's a bunch of people who haven't signed yet. But I mean, the thing where I'm trying to go with this is that you shouldn't just assume that riding this torrential wave that's just going to be just absolutely devastating everything. Don't assume that because there was giant lineups for miles, that there's going to be lineups from miles all the way through. If you're canvassing, you're probably still going to have to put some miles. on and hit the pavement and yeah no it's like you go and gold rush sure yeah at the start maybe there's a few people well by the time this giant nuggets but then now the time me has to start yeah by the time this this airs there'll be like 70 days left okay maybe even less maybe maybe maybe closer to i don't know as the kids say six seven right i don't even know what that means but i hear it all the

time i hear it all the time yeah regardless yeah i don't think it's a i think it's probably a wise thing to, well, if you want something, you better be moving on it, right? Yeah, well, I think as far as Saskatchewan goes, to go back to your question, the thing Saskatchewan has gone for it is that the rural population hasn't been supplanted by the rural pop, or the urban population just yet. and so you've still got a lot more no offense people in sastatin Regina but you still got a lot more builders makers and doers and farmers than you do bureaucrats or whatever yes i get the fact that things still get made and built and done in sastas tuna regina but it's also where all the

bureaucrats are clevette doesn't really have a lot of bureaucrats so I could see that being a little bit more likely because getting the numbers as a proportion of the population is going to be easier. What are you doing? You're not even listening. I'm not listening. Should we come back to this in a little while? I don't know. Do you want to watch, do you want to watch like a new episode of Stranger Things maybe? I mean, I dro-

Tuesday is upset with me right now. You know who I'm looking at right now? She who will not be renamed. nail in the coffin for me after many preceding red flags. I have a substack that's a best seller in the top 50 for world politics, but I'm going to actively seek to migrate off this platform because polymarket and substack, we're excited to announce an exclusive partnership together.

I have my doubts that... How can I put this with... She will not be named. Right. By the way, I drove like five fucking hours. Put your phone down. I'm curious You sound like dust

I'm just checking a couple things That's all Checking a couple things Okay So Sounds like my mom I doubt the credibility Of her having such a highly ranked

Do you actually think she has a substack I'm sure she has a substack No I'm searching right now And I'm sure it has a lot of followers But I would 18,000 That's how she's got on substack

I would have a lot of doubts How many of them are premium? Number 49 in politics. Okay. How many of them are paid? I don't know if they'll tell me that. Are any of them paid? No, no, no, paid right there.

Never mind. Okay. Shows paid, but it doesn't show how many, it doesn't give me a total. Okay. I don't know what I'm looking for, folks. I'll be danged. Rachel Gilmore has 18,000.

subscribers on substack. Well, let me put this delicately. Okay, first off, she was not supposed to be named. So what the hell, Sean? Secondly, I know that there's people on the internet who have bought their followings. And given her track record? No, no, no, not track record, more of a lack thereof when it comes to compelling

thoughts or interesting analysis or anything like that. She hasn't done anything other than try and get hate mods. You know, you don't go to her because she has a really interesting take on international trade deals. I don't know why you'd even go to her and begin with. Well, that's exactly it. And so to think that it's one of the biggest ones on substack organically, I have doubts because

well it's I don't know it it's like when people talk about comedians or steal jokes right not that she's stealing material but just roughly the same concept being that if somebody ever gets accused stealing jokes the easiest thing for them to do is just come out with a bunch of good material

afterwards be like okay well yeah maybe I had the same premise but it was accidental but if all of a sudden you take that off of if you take away that solid material that somebody thought might have been stolen and they can't come up with anything afterwards.

Sure. Then it's probably fair to assume that that perfect bit they had got lifted. And with her, there hasn't been any good bits. There hasn't been any great bits. Like there's no actual substance there. Like nothing I've ever seen of hers

has been because of some quick-witted analysis or some remarkable insight. or anything like that. Yeah, and she's been put on, not on the flip side, but just like when I think of Rachel Gilmore, she's found her way into committees, right? She's found her way into like parliament, not parliament.

Hearings. Hearings, thank you. Where she's getting asked her witness, expert testimony or whatever, and you're like, Rachel Gilmore? What world do I live in right now? Well, I mean, it's just, it's another issue.

of the Chinese takeover of Canada, right? Take over of Canada. If I could get her on the show, would you try and have an interesting discussion with her? Or would you lose her top on her? I wouldn't lose my top on her, and I would not want her to lose her top on me. But I just,

I'm not really super interested in giving such a vapid, I don't know, attention craver legitimacy. And she doesn't really seem interested in having intelligent discussions. So I guess that makes it pretty easy to do because, you know, you say if this were to happen, would you do this? Well, yeah, yeah, sure. If it was going to happen, I'd give her a million bucks too

because she's not going to come on and do the show. So sure, whatever. I'll do a jig on top of the roof if she does it. Rachel Gilmore, I bet she should be easier to get than that. Easier to get than a million dollars? Yeah. Yeah. But she's not interested in doing any sort of panels or discussions with any of this stuff.

It's all about either echo chambers or selectively editing other people's stuff to misrepresent what they're saying or intentionally not hearing what's being said and speak. speaking to a straw man version of it. I mean, that's the whole schick. So to sit down and, you know, get her a firehouse sub with a pickle and me, a firehouse sub with a pickle and sit here and, you know, have lunch and figure out some ideas about the way the world's going, she's not going to be interested in that. She wouldn't be able to keep it up, I imagine. That's just speculation because I've never seen her do anything remotely like that.

I'd sit in for that conversation. All right. So it's a double-edged sword because on the, actually it's a three-edged sword. It's a triangular sword. Because, A, I do want to have interesting discussions with people who don't agree with me.

And it's hard to get people who don't just knee-jerk assume that I'm going to be a douche for some reason. So two, you do play, a character on the show, right? I mean, like, you're our full stop a character, too, so if people tune in for 10 seconds and don't actually hear

you have some profound thoughts, I can see how they think you're a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, that's fair, but... It's like pointing out Uncle Hack at times, right? And if you don't sit and listen to the guy or, like, interact with them, you could think a lot of things about them. of a sudden you're like

there's way more under the hood to that guy. Oh, there's so much more. Like go to one of his shows. He stands by the door and he shakes the hand of every single person who came through to see him. I've been to a lot of comedy shows. I've never seen anybody do that before. Like, that's

whatever you might think about him's surface level, there's a shit ton of integrity there. Yeah, he's just playing a character. But, but, uh, but, Okay, so the only reason why there would be any sort of gain for having she will not be named on here is so that she could be just exposed as a vapid idiot.

But I don't really want to do that because I don't really want to just have a bunch of gotcha moments where someone could do a little clickbaity headline in all caps and put it on YouTube as a short, right? Yeah, I think it would be interesting to hear her speak. like actually to have to put out some thoughts and then have it you sit there and be like that's not right but that doesn't make any sense

but that's the thing is that she wouldn't be interested in that and me even this is going to sound funny and if she ever heard she's going to be pissed right off but I don't want to give her any of my credibility

by treating her as somebody that I could sit down and have a serious conversation with when she's shown no indication of wanting to do that to anybody at all, ever. So, I don't know. Who's the person that you would, who's somebody that you would like to have on the show least, but would probably, like, okay, what if Justin Trudeau says,

Hey, Sean? So I was just like surfing around to Fino. And, uh, I was thinking about getting the private jazz. jet to swing by your new studio, man. Should we sit down and do like a convoy? Maybe a convoy? What do you think, bro?

Well, okay, let's put it in the realm of possibilities. Okay, so it probably with Katie as well then. Yeah. I would say that, so somebody I don't want to have a conversation with normally, but you're asking would have a possibility of actually happening and people tuning into it. Is that what you're asking? Like, is there somebody who you would not want to have a conversation with, but you feel like you probably should if you were ever presented with the opportunity?

Yeah, yeah, Jason Kenney. When David Knight-Legg brought it up, I was like, I really don't want to have that conversation. I have my thoughts on who he is and what he's done. And yet I'm like, at the same token, I think it would be really interesting for him to try and jump through mental hoops and try and explain how he wasn't wrong in COVID and everything else. Well, I mean, like, here's the thing, Sean. You're missing so many golden numbers.

Like, I don't think Jason Kinney would ever be interested in the long form because it's not just that. Why would you approve, you know, why were you the point of the spear when it came to the temporary foreign worker program? Why were you part of the government to set up the equalization? in its current format. You know, why do you speak so strongly about going to Ottawa to represent the people of your province and then voting for the shit

that put them in this predicament? Like, you could, you could go in so many different directions. Sure. Like I was, Jason Kenny, I'm going to chew my own horn for a sec. Tews got a lot of backlash back in the day for being one of the first people

to say Jason Kenney, Jason Kenny was a self-serving piece of shit who doesn't care about the actual betterment of this province and is only doing this for his own aspirations. Even the episode of my 222 cents called Jason Kenny is a Jason Kenneyist. Back when he was still in charge of things and popular and people liked him. And I broke down exactly how you fast-forward. I think pretty much everybody came around to Jason Kenny being a Jason Kenneyist. So Tuesdays was right of the week for that one. But yeah, Jason Kenny would be, yeah.

So why would you not want to sit down with him and talk about those ideas? Probably most people know this by now, but I don't love confrontation. And I don't see how I can approach that conversation without confrontation. Okay. I mean, he literally has, was the guy leading the province when I thought that he did by far the worst job ever and was saying things one week and then turn around and saying something completely different the next week and on and on and on and went. And I don't think, it's kind of like, you know, in the middle of the debate, you're going, Sean, you're the debater. The moderator. Thank you, the moderator. And I'm just like, I know, but I'm just, I'm, I'm sorry. You can't

You can't walk on the show And say that without being like Excuse me Like let's let's take a look Let's open our eyes You can be in Eminton Living in everything you're living in And go is the city better or worse

In the last 10 year I don't think anybody would say is better Nobody I don't think there's anyone's living there Oh we got a new Starbucks It's way better It doesn't even have graffiti yet Right

So I go like to me if you're looking at this country and you still want it to be together, okay, I understand that trained thought. How are we going to do it with the liberal still in power? And how are you going to get the conservatives in? And how are you going to hold the conservatives feet to the fire so that they do things differently? I don't know.

They seem like very valid questions to me. And at this point, I go, because all the problems that are coming through, sure, are there different governments that are, or provincial governments and everything else and different ID. ologies that has seeped in, but liberal government has been managing the destruction of this place. So like Jason Kenney, yeah, I got my bones to pick there. And I mean, like, what do you call me, Tim Foil hat on, on, on X, right? Like, I just, I just feel like, yeah, you want to come on?

Sure. This is, this is going to be a tough interview for me because most people are like, I don't know how you keep you cool. I'm like, well, most people, there's nothing personal and they can say whatever they want. Yeah, and then we have one guy and be like, well, I kind of like some of the stuff Justin Trudeau did

and you're just like, oh, I said pardon? What did you say? Well, maybe you need to moderate the next one because I, to me, I don't even want to debate that like you guys are talking

the economy and different shit like that and I'm like, the hell are you two talking about? It's like, I didn't really steer that ship. I know when I was trying to steer, I should have steered it better, but I'm like,

at the end of the day, I'm like, I just, I don't get what we're arguing about here, right? He's over his skis, and you're trying to pull him back from the skis, and you're just off in the Lollah Land. I'm like, why do you want to stay in Canada? Oh, I think we're better off this way. Why do you think that? And he goes, well, we've got to stick to the course and all these things.

I'm like, stick to the course. We're driving into the toilet. We might even be through the bottom of the toilet. We might be going out the ass end of this thing. You want to keep going? The ass end is usually at the top of the toilet. Well, whatever. I'm just, I guess in that specific conversation, my frustration boiled over on the Justin Trudeau combat.

And I think everything you said about the debate was really fair because when Marty debated Troy, I listened to it. And because they asked if I was interested in helping moderate it. And I was like, yes, but I don't have the time. So good luck and Godspeed. But I listened to it afterwards. and I was just like, you guys are just so far off the discussion and you're so far off the discussion.

And then I'm like, okay, well, when I do this tomorrow, I'm not going to get off the discussion. And then I did. You know, but you have that little bit of humors in your head, especially when you're like, okay, well, I see where this one went wrong. I'm going to do it completely differently. And then when I do it, it's going to be better, you know, which is what every comment.

this says but whatever. I don't even wrong. Like I come back to the debate. Was it good? Yeah. Like I think it's really important. Even quick dick had pointed out. He said more of this.

Yeah, more of it. Okay. But we need other people from the other side to engage. Right? So like you go like Jason Kenney and Denver come on the show. Well, that's real sad. For a guy who's going to try and tell me about how things should be and he doesn't want, you know,

trying to end his political exile. You know, he seems to be really trying hard to put himself back into relevance. I would agree. Yeah. But here's the thing is that this wouldn't do him any favors. He would, I bet you he'd go on Jesperson sometime soon. Sure.

Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I could see, well, Jessperson's one I'd love. I think, like, I put it at the start of the year that Jesperson's a guy. I'm going to try and get on this year. I was talking to Quick Dick about it because Quick has been on it. Multiple times. And I have no idea.

You know, what do I actually know about Jesperson? Very little. I mean, if I'm being honest, I know he got his starting with the Oilers, I believe, right, being their in-house guy,

I want to say, and then he was on 630 Chad. And then he got removed from 630, Chad, and now he's got real talk with Jesperson, right? And when I look at his guest list, I go, well, I can see how me and him are different. But actually, that's full stop that's all I know you know I listen to him in quick dick it wasn't a bad

conversation he even says in it that we're going to have a referendum and he doesn't think it's going to pass but he's pretty sure there's going to be a referendum okay like it's not like he's going off deep end I just I think there's enough of like he's in a different world than I live and those coming together would be interesting and so is it a conversation I really want to have no what I really want to have is Jordan Peterson and I don't know like who's another Canadian that's just whipping things up right now. Wes Huff. Wes Huff is one on the,

is one on the, on the Bible, the Christianity side. You're, who? The astronaut. The astronaut. Yeah, we're sending some astronaut up into outer space

here in the next couple days or maybe it already happened. There was one Canadian on that NASA mission. It's supposed to go around the moon or some shit. I don't know. So if you believe in the moon, it'd be an interesting story to have. If you believe in the moon. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. Like, I'd like to, I'd like to interview Sydney Crosby, right? Like, I came back to the Olympic question. Like, the times where I'm happiest when I'm, when I'm Canadian. You should get the, is when men's Olympic. The Swedish curling team. Hockey is coming on. The Swedish, not the Canadian guy, not the Canadian guy.

Talk about that. Then it'd be like, it was total bullshit. I'm really excited to hear Carrie Ann tell us. why or why or not. I really enjoyed having her on tomorrow. Wherever you're at on a Monday morning listen to this, you probably drive around going, what are these two morons doing?

That's probably what you're doing. And welcome to one-on-one where we don't have 800 topics. Well, you know, I don't know. I was texting you about this the other day. But I really like the fact that over the years, we've kind of got to a point where, well, what do we talk about on the match?

We talk about heists, whatever the stupidest, craziest. You had a nice write-up of that. Okay, well, I don't know, pull it up real quick, maybe. I don't know where I could just tell you what I thought. I wasn't supposed to get my phone. Okay, I'm on my phone again. Oh, great. Here we go with this.

Dad's going to be on me here in two seconds, so I better get right to the text. Then get off of it. Okay, here we go. All right. Some expedience would be nice. Let's see if I can find it here. Holy crap. How long ago did you send this?

I don't know, apparently 50 text messages ago. Anyway, the gist of it is that I like the fact that the mashup has focused on a lot of the things that interest me the most, which are like shipwrecks and crazy news stories and heists and laughably bad drivers and just things of that nature. Okay, Sean. This is going to sound dumb, but I love that we talk about heist and pop culture.

references and weird stories and people like it. I guess it's true that you can hear when you're passionate about stuff. Imagine the sales pitch for this show as a show. Current events, swearing rants, heist, the craziest news we can find, shipwrecks and callbacks to old martial arts movies. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what the mashup is. And there's some people who are just, like, people who love the mashup

love the mashup it has a cult falling yeah I even see them getting in arguments over how much you swear oh it's the first person the comments

you swear too much the next person I'm basically tell them to screw off yeah yeah and you remember when we had we should bring Uncle Hack back up

because when we had Uncle Hack on and he made you blush that's what I like about him that day on text line is the most polarized I think I've ever seen the text line. Half the people said they would never, ever, ever listen again. And the other half said basically that was the greatest show you've ever done. You need to bring it on again and again and again.

We've never done it again. No, and it's not, I don't know, Uncle Hack if you're listening, it's, we love you and we miss you. The last time I had Uncle Hack on was the federal live. where I put him and he came on earlier than he's supposed to with Jennifer L. Yes, Jennifer L. Thank you. And then there was a whole beef between them and I kept muting them because of the noise in the airport. And he thought it was because of there's, well, I don't know.

I think he got it. We didn't know that they had a beef or even that they even knew each other. Correct. Because we put together all these different panels during the live election. And it just so happens that one of the panels had Tupac and Biggie on at the same time. And I kept muting. One of them. Yeah.

Well, I mean, to be fair, in real life, both of them got muted. But yeah. That was a hilarious turn of events. Yes, it was. I was like, what is happening right now? Oh, man. But they were great about it. They just, they laughed about it.

That was actually one of the... You know who was, it was supposed to be Jennifer L. Quick Dick and the radio guy from Saskatchew. Ashwin. John Gormley. John Gormley was over in like Vietnam or something. Yeah. Told me he couldn't make it. And all of a sudden, Uncle Hack was like an hour early.

Because he got the AM and the PM mixed up and the time zones mixed up. And so he wasn't like an hour early. He was like 11 hours early. Yeah. So all of a sudden we got Uncle Hack there. Anyways, what a funny predicament that was. Yeah. Yeah.

What is big elections we got coming this year? Fucking Quebec. Yeah, Quebec. When is Quebec? honor before something like October 26th. Be real cool if we didn't live from Quebec. You know what? That's probably not a bad idea.

Like let's go to Montreal? Well, fuck. I don't know. I guess we could go to. You know what, to be fair, Quebec City? Quebec City is a big jaunt. But you know what? Like Montreal.

I met a few people around there. Like, I even just randomly ran into like one of the guys from Rebel while without drinking one night in Montreal during the lockdowns. Fuck your stupid rules. And, uh, I mean, I guess it stands to reason that, you know, people like him and us were the only ones out, right? So be easy to cross paths for the only people at any bar. Um, but, uh, but, yeah, there's, there's some. There's some fine folks on both sides of that border. Yeah.

I mean, Granby's only a half hour away. That's where Ben's mom's from. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's, yeah.

And, you know, we could just call up Vesper and be like, hey, guess what? We're staying on your couch for a couple days. And he'd be like,

what? And it'd be like, too late, the flight's already booked. Actually, We're in the air already. And I've sent stuff to his house. So I know where he lives.

So we could just show up. We have Vesper be a guest co-host for the show. Yeah, in person from fucking Quebec. That would be a fun pitch, actually. The only problem what we got is we don't know enough guests in Quebec to do a full-on. You remember, like normally Saskatchew, we try and find all Saskatchew, Alberta, the same thing. You remember in Ontario that we had people on? And they're like, yeah, I don't really care who wins.

It doesn't really matter. That became the theme of that show. It doesn't matter who would. Yeah. We already know that the conservatives are going to win again and nobody cares. Well, who's that guy with one leg? Lucian Bouchard? I don't know.

Has he got one leg? Yeah. Like, he'd be really easy to track down. And then, you know, we get Vesper. I got a couple buddies out. Ben Trudeau comes down. Ben Trudeau, for sure. And then, you know, I mean, well, the Pleb, the Pleb's from Quebec.

The Plebs from Quebec? I don't think I'm saying anything that everybody doesn't already know. It shows how much I fall. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's in Montreal. Matt, Air, it's south of Montreal. There's a lot of things that are south of Montreal. I'm just saying he's back.

Like Florida. Tom Luongo is south of Montreal. Really? We're talking about Quebec as a province. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there's lots of things south of Quebec. Yeah.

Yeah, let's get somebody from Brazil. Well, it's south of Quebec. Tom Ongo, South of Quebec, he says, no, no really, really. I'm just. You just pointing that out? Tell me I'm wrong. You're wrong. Tell me I'm wrong.

He's pointing out Matt Erud is actually in Quebec. You do, for me. So why not say he's in Quebec, not south of Montreal? There's like a lot of things that are south of Montreal. The Gulf of Alberta is south of Montreal. Oh yeah. By the way, everybody, once we separate, we're going to go after the naming rights for that place.

Just because. It's not the Gulf of Mexico anymore as the Gulf of Americas. If Alberta separates, if when Alberta separates, we're going to rename it the Gulf of Alberta. Like Donald Trump, we like, Hey, you know what? It actually seems like a fun idea. And they need a win.

And they have coastline now. Big, beautiful coastline. We even threw in Galveston. Jason Kenny is interesting, hey? David Nightleg is one of the smartest people, either one of us know. He's just profoundly insightful. I wish he did more podcasts, not just with you, but just like with anybody. If he had his own podcast, I'd turn in every, tune in every week.

And Jason Kenny is one of his best friends. And it just never really made a lick of sense to me. Like it's kind of like the South Park characters, Mimsy and what's the other one? You've got like the super genius and that, yeah, yeah. They'd be like Pinky and the Bravesy and the Bray. Pinky in the brain and Larry. Pinky in the brain and Larry. One is a genius.

The other is insane. Hey, David, what are we going to do today? The same thing we do every night, Jason. Like, you've got this guy who's just, you know, one is a genius and the other's insane. Yeah. It was a good show. That was a good show.

Yeah. Actually, yeah, met the guy who did the voice of Pinky a bunch of times. Really? Yeah. Where? In my hometown. He did a, so him. The guy who did Pinky came through Saskatchewan.

Yeah, yeah. So him, McGiver, like Richard Dean Anderson, Alex Trebac, Dave Couille, like a whole bunch of like 90s, Alan Thick. Okay. Did a fundraiser, a hockey fundraiser where they played a bunch of NHL guys. So those guys played, you know, Gordy Howe and, oh, shoot, what's Bernie Ferdurco and, you know, like Tiger Williams and Ken Dryden at Sask Place for a fundraiser. And the guy who did Pinky's voice, he also did Yacko, I want to say, from the Animaniacs. and like he was Raphael from the Ninja Turtles

and he's done the voice of hundreds of video games and cartoons and stuff over the years like he actually came out to the town multiple times just show up hanging out with the kids and I was one of the kids and it was awesome yeah he's a great guy and so what career

yeah right like what a career guy's probably a millionaire just from doing like if you look up as I shoot his name is alluding me right now but if you looked up as IMDP it's fucking huge just the voice of pinky from pinky in the brain

yeah we gotta be able yeah oh here we go with the phone again never ends oh my god look it up i don't have your desk is sitting there for you just waiting yeah i guess you don't have a jamie here to look all this up for you pinky voice actor rob pulson yes rob paulson 69 years of Oh, Pinking the Brain, Animaniacs, Jimmy Neutron, the goofy movie, the Mask Cartoon, Iron Yard,

oh yeah, pretty much Ninja Turtles, I mean. Yep, he was in at least one or two of the Balders Gates. Yes, that was a great show, too. That was such a weird show. But, I mean, there was something. Freakizzoid. There was something great in the acid that they were doing in the mid-90s at Warner Brothers. Like, because there was that whole run of shows

Because there was pinky in the brain And there was animaniacs and freakazoid And I think one of two other ones Darkwing duck was fantastic. Darkwing duck was good. I don't remember if it was good or not And those things are tricky. Like I remember Thundercats was awesome.

Thundercats was awesome, right? Okay, okay. I went and rewatched a little bit of the original Thundercats as a grown-up And I was like, this is just unwatchedly bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, but you're an adult now. You can't, you can't go back.

and watch, you know, like, take your pick. I bet if I went back and watched Gargoyles, I'm not going to think it was as good as what I thought of as a kid. Oh, I bet you would be better. Maybe. Well, they had the continuing storyline. I went back and watched, I went back and watched Batman. The Batman that came out when I was.

Batman the animated series? Yeah. Batman the animated series. Did you watch the episode with Mr. Freeze, where they turn him into an anti-hero? How about, did you know that Batman the animated series introduced Harley Quinn? Are you getting mad at me right now? For shit talking Batman the animated series?

No, I'm just saying it isn't, it's good, but it's not as good as I, like, I live that show. I wake up two hours early for it. They invented Harley Quinn. That's fine. Harley Quinn did not exist before that happened. Well, I mean, she's almost disappeared from all the stupidity they've put her through in the last couple years. Yeah. Yeah, you thought dating the Joker was bad.

I want to ask you about Marvel. They got all the Avengers coming back. I feel like I asked you. And all the X-Men and all of... You think it's going to be any good? Let me just preface this out, okay? And if anyone's still listening, which I assume they are, but, you know, we haven't talked to any movies yet.

And I was... So Mel and I, the other night, normally we used to go to a movie all the time, right? Multiple things happen in Lloyd. One is, you've got the homeless population. It gets... Lloyd has homeless people? Oh, yeah.

And it gets a little strange, a little nutty down by the theater after like six o'clock. Like the movie theater. Yep. Still in the same place. It's always been? Same place.

Same place where I saw the original Sin City, where I saw Transformers. Yes. Where it's, oh, shoot. Serenity. What was the? Serenity now. No, no, just Serenity.

Serenity, no. Okay, anyways. So, they bring out Iron Man and they bring out Captain America and they did, and they worked their way to the Avengers. And the first Avengers, Unreal. Yep. Then they do Age of Ultron. Unreal.

I mean, it was pretty good. It was pretty good. It was good. It was good. It was good. Don't sit here and go backtrack. It said it was pretty good. It was really good. I said that from the get-go.

And then they culminate. Infinity War. They culminate an infinity war. Which I saw in the Lloyd Theater, actually. And what was the second one? End game. End game. Thank you.

Those two movies were just like the culmination of a really good idea. Was there crappy movies in there? Yes, there absolutely was. But as a whole, 20-some movies, how it culminated was like super good. And now we've talked about this lots where, you know, like Shee Hulk and a couple other ones really turned you off. I lost anything to do with it after like the third TV show they brought out. Like I don't even think I got through the first one, but they just kept bringing out a TV show after TV show.

I'm like, what the heck is going on? I stopped watching. Then I get sent the preview of Captain, or well, uh... Doomsday. Well, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the fact that Captain America's back. Yep. and that Thor is coming back

and then all the Avengers or all the X-Men are going to be there and I'm like, what is this? Like is it going to be any good or is it going to be complete crap? Okay, so it's got a few things going for it. One is that Anthony and Joe Russo were directing it again.

So those are the guys who did Winter Soldier, the last two Avengers movies and also a whole bunch of... So did Endgame and all that? That's what you're talking about Avengers movies? Okay. Yeah.

Those are the last two Avengers movies. Yeah. I'm just making sure. And also, Winter Soldier, which is like... I'm just making sure we're talking about the right thing right now. Okay. Also, Winter Soldier, just... All you need to do is say Winter Soldier, and that's good enough.

Winter Soldier is okay. Winter Soldier, get the hell out of here. No, I don't want to get the hell out of here. Winter Soldier was okay. Get out. No, stop it. Winter Soldier was phenomenal. Winter Soldier was probably the best show in the entire thing that wasn't one of the ensembles. Like aside from the last two Avengers,

Winter Soldier was the best movie out of all of that. So, yeah. They're pretty good at, no. Let me guess. You really liked Civil War. Civil War was good, but you said where it wasn't an entire ensemble. I think the original Iron Man was really good. Better than Winter Soldier?

Yeah, probably. Look, John Favro is good at doing things that are flashy and nice. He's like the fucking soda cracker. movies like you know sure yeah you could just sit there filling your face full of it but you're not going to feel filled at the end of it you're you're not going to have any sense of accomplishment okay yeah all right so you like the winter soldier i think that's coming through loud and clear can we get back to the fact they're all coming back in a movie okay so remember iron man too also written and directed by john favro yeah i never said iron man too is a good

I'm not saying, I'm not saying you need to say it is. I'm not saying any of the rest of the Iron Man's was good. I'm saying the original was really good. Actually, Iron Man 3 was kind of good because Shane Black did it. He's the guy who did kiss, kiss, kiss, bang, back. I'm sorry, Iron Man 3 wasn't that good either. So carry on. Kind of good.

Kind of good. I mean, not every movie he does has to be a fucking Christmas movie, right? But here we go. So Iron Man 2 kind of suffered from having so many new people brought in. Only took to the two hour mark folks for this thing to just get a little. lively okay fine you're pissing me off right now carry on oh yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry am i am i denigrating st john fabro no i don't care about who directed the movie it's whether or not this wasn't a good movie either just so you know all right i at what point did i say i'm a huge

john fabro movie uh buff i'm not the mandolorean overrated nostalgia clickbait not once you said you said winter soldier because i started to try Best standalone film other than the ensembles. And I go, I don't know. I think Iron Man was better than the winter soldier. That's all I'm saying. It wasn't. And then you've got on this whole thing, John Fabrel, and this is not.

And he sucks at his director. I'm like, listen, man, even a blind mice can find a piece of cheese every once in a blue moon. And I feel like he found it, okay? Is it a blue cheese moon? I don't know. I feel like he found it with that. Iron Man. One of the problems with Iron Man, too, of which there was a great many, not the least of which were the writer and director, was that they tried to introduce so many new threads and characters and everything like that.

Remember that was the first time Black Widow showed up? Yes. All right. Stuff like that. And so now you're going to have a movie that's going to have every fucking main character from 26 movies, plus whatever's been going on in the last couple phases. plus you're going to have all of the X-Men characters plus you're probably going to throw in like the Netflix Marvel people I'm guessing

and you're probably going to also throw in so it's going to have a Star Wars feel to it Electra and Daredevil almost where you're like why are they even here like they're going to have to do scenes where different characters are finishing each other's sentences because that's the only way that any of them are actually going to get lines. Think about it.

There's probably 50 main characters in that movie, if not more. So is it going to be good to? Are you going to it in theater? Yes. It'll be the first Marvel movie I've been to see in theaters since Endgame. When does it come on? November 27th, I think. Something like that.

but it's going to be one of those ones where I have to keep my expectations low because if I have, you know, like, I'm like Jeremy Renner, like, don't give me hope. You know, when he became Ronan. Yes, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just shut up.

Yes, I get your lines. I'm still trying to think in my head if it's going to be a good movie or not. Well, I think. Because it's got a good, you know, the teaser trailer is for him. I'm like, well, that's interesting. Well, the last Avengers,

movie they did was a time travel heist superhero movie like they literally just they may as well have cloned me sat that clone down and said what would be the coolest things we could put in a movie and so they're they're good at catering the things i like i would say like even when they did citadel um you know kind of shitty execution but it was an interesting premise for a tv show and i love community so they have the potential to get my interest we'll see if they get my attention then i have one other question for you okay i am a giant christopher nolan fan he has i like regular size christopher nolan but continue the odyssey is what he's coming out with next yeah i think it's going to be in the get

well it's going to be giant so it's going to be right up your wheelhouse apparently filmed in i'max are you christopher nolan fan yeah i feel like i probably introduced you to him. Really? Okay. Really, you introduced me. Yeah. What a dumb thing to say.

These are the times. That was funny. That was funny. That was definitively funny. When you say things like that, anyways, what are you going to say? What are you going to say to? I remember the first time I saw Memento.

And that was like 25 years ago. And I remember being like, I don't know if I loved that movie or hated that movie. And, well, I can't. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head. I know that I've felt that about movies, and they usually ended up being my favorite movies. Like where I get done, and I'm like, I don't know.

Was that awesome? Did that suck? Like, I'm just so confused right now. Oh, Snatch. That's another perfect example. Came out about the same time. Snatch was a good movie. Snatch was a good movie.

Snatch was and is a phenomenal movie. And so, anyway, Memento ended up being one of my absolute favorite movies. and I'm not going to tell that story. So anyway. Anyway, yes, I've got a lot of love for Christopher Nolan films. Like, even Insomniac was a great film, even though I didn't, like, I remember watching it in the theater too, actually, and not knowing that it was one of his movies.

He's the only guy I follow as a director. that Spielberg guys come out with some pretty interesting. Yeah, but I don't go, oh, it's the spill, what's Spielberg? I don't look up what Spielberg's next project. Never have. He makes a good movie, sure,

but Christopher Nolan, I'm, I'm like waiting to see what he brings out. Yeah. And I've seen, I've seen, I've seen everything has in minus, probably one or two of his earliest films in theater.

I've been big fan for a long time. Yeah, following was coming gone by, that time I'd even heard of them. So yeah. And then I didn't see Batman McGins in the theater. I remember hearing about it. And I'm like, oh, they're doing a Batman movie.

And that was it. I was just like I was so sad from Batman and Robin. I mean, why couldn't you give Alicia Silverstone the nipples, right? It's a fair question to ask. And yet here we are with George Clooney. and what's his name O'Donnell

Rosie that was a terrible movie yeah he came back and set Batman straight yes he did but I wasn't expecting that and then the way he tied in

the dark night returns and Batman year one have you ever read those no okay so they're really interesting they're really good both of them

are cartoons though aren't they or is only one of them i bet you they made most both like dc did a thing for a long while yeah yeah where they took their most one of one of them for sure is a cartoon i've watched it yeah so yeah dc did a thing for a while i know they did it with flashpoint paradox and they've done it with doomsday where it's still moving towards me it's still moving towards oh oh um yeah where they would take some of their best series and turn them into movies. Flashpoint paradox. You should definitely read that.

But like Batman, you remember that part where he pulls that thing out of the bottom of his heel? Yes, and drops it down. And all the bats go. Yeah, that's right from Batman year one. Yeah, and I'm not saying that as it's a rip-off. I'm just saying I really like it when you take like the absolute best

from an IP. And you use that to tell a story in the theater, right? Like, you don't have to reinvent it all the time. If you've got something that just works phenomenally well, do that exact thing. Like when the Flash, so the Flash, um, talk about a terrible, terrible movie character they've built. Well, and that's loosely based on the Flashpoint paradox. And the thing that's amazing about the Flashpoint paradox is the big twist.

that I'm not going to say, but you could watch the movie and it does a fairly decent job, the animated movie, but if you read that comic book, you'll turn that one page and you probably just drop it and be like, holy shit, that's phenomenal.

It's amazing. You just mind-blown. They cut it out of the movie. The Ezra Miller movie, they cut the best part of that whole series. out of the fucking movie. I feel like that's the problem with DC.

It's like if you ever read the Age of Apocalypse, alternate future Marvel, right? A bunch of the superheroes are dead and a bunch of the bad ones are fighting with the good ones and the good ones started fighting with the bad ones. And, you know, just one small change happened early on in history and everybody goes in a different direction. A bunch of them are dead,

a bunch of them have different costumes. Wolverines got one hand. He's just got a stump on the one hand. And so he's going around fighting, still fighting the good fight. And then like very near the end, overwhelmed by enemy forces, about to die. And then all of a sudden out of this stump,

this metal stump, out comes the three claws. And you're like, yeah. It was like one of those cool moments except heart wrenching and gut rendering with the flashpoint paradox. And they're like, no, no, we don't need to film that. That's the whole fucking point of the entire comic. If you cut that part out, you did not understand the story at all. Do you feel like directors or writers of movies are kind of like politicians where you're just like,

all you got to do in the movie is talk to the comic book lover. They'll tell you what you cannot remove from the movie. Yeah. And it's kind of similar to a politician. You're like, all you got to do is talk to the blue color guy that's doing the work.

And he'll tell you exactly what you need to do. But they don't want to do that. They just constantly don't do that. Yeah. And then you have problem after problem after problem. Well, that's the thing is the blue color worker is too stupid to know what's good for him. And the comic book fan is too stupid

to know what's good for him and what's going to make a good movie. I make good movies. So you're going to shut up and watch my movie. movie and the politician is like I make policies you're going to shut up and deal with my policy

yeah well I mean it's classic executive everything there's there's a lot of people in that that fancy suit wearing level that just have no idea about what happens at the lower levels

if you're making a prediction on Alberta independence referendum yeah okay we're going to get to referendum. Referendum, what is going to be the vote count? Not vote count, like percentage less. I have no idea, but I'm going to say this.

There is going to be at least a couple major catalysts that end up being the formative deciding thing in this. It's going to be something like 60%, or it's going to be something like 15%, or it might be like 80%. It's not going to be anywhere in the middle. at all. If you look at the 2015 election, Stephen Harper, a big part of the reason why he got voted out was because

some kid washed up drowned on the shore of the Mediterranean. You know, if this trans shooter had played out a little bit differently, I could see that being a big catalyzing thing for separation.

And so Canada just seems to live and die by reacting to things. Oh, this is, oh, this is a big, like look at the whole elbows up thing. They were able to literally put this in front of test audiences, measure the responses, and then fuck up international negotiations to the point where they could come in, say, elbows up and get a minority government, but they pulled it from the jaws of an overwhelming conservative majority.

And so we've got this bovine reactive culture in this country. Nobody thinks about what's best for them or charts their own destiny. We all just get led by the nose. And so all it's going to take is a couple catalyzing factors that people see is relating somewhat in some particular way to the Alberta separatist movement. and that's going to be all anybody cares about is just how does this thing shoehorn into it and it might shoehorn to the good and it might shoehorn to the bad

but I don't think we're going to see a 49-51 we're going to see something where all of a sudden everybody abandons it entirely or a whole bunch of people get on board or everybody gets on board I wonder what it would take for everyone to get on board Well, you would see something like, I don't know, pick some woke, stupid idiot thing that the liberals do that we don't want and have it blow the fuck up in the faces of somebody else who tries to do it in California or Nova Scotia or Belgium. All it takes is one catastrophic fuck up.

And the world's pretty good at those lately. I don't know. What do you think? What's your prediction? Well, I think we're getting a referendum. I mean, even when I look at what they did to Lacostics, how many signatures they knocked off of it, I'm like... And he's still asking, technically his was asking for a referendum anyway.

Yeah. So I think we get a referendum. What I can't figure out is this is why I've been telling people, you know, including myself, like, just need to bring it up with everyone. Because you think everybody knows about it. think everybody's paying attention to it you think everybody is like um engaged but they're not and so you know like i've i don't know i just keep doing it i just keep adding to the list of people i'm like oh what do you think about the alberta petition going on independence yeah i have not for it oh

why not and just see what they say yeah and others are like yeah i'm probably for it but they probably already got a million signatures already and i'm like what are you talking about I don't think you could be that overconfident. It's like, you know, I had another call, a phone call just yesterday and saying, I don't know if I want to put my name on that. Why? If you're already on a list. Yep.

You're already on a list. Well, I don't know if I want to be on that list. This could be different. That's the one list you want to be on. Well, I'm, when you go big conspiracies or whatever, it's like, listen, I interviewed Byron Chris for years ago. I can go down some conspiracy rabbit holes with the best of them. And Byron Christopher has the receipts to prove out that a lot of it is in conspiracy.

It's full on fact. But like you're looking at this and you go, you got to just, if you're even remotely interested in Alberta getting a new deal, you should be signing it. The bigger the number, the more it's going to send the shockwave to Ottawa. Well,

if it just squeaks by the line, you think they're giving it any time of day? No, no. And this isn't something, this isn't pee-wee hockey. There's no such thing as running the scoreboard up too high. No. Like if literally every man, woman, and child in the province sign that petition,

I would be fine with that. Right? But, well, I mean, obviously not the children. You know what I mean. I know what you mean. So, I mean, we talked about this. I think the first time we sat down when you were like, are you a separatist?

I'm the guy with a separatist on my show. It's weak, folks. So anyway, yes, I am a separatist. And I mean, if we go to separate, well, I mean, one of two basic things is going to happen is one, we go our own way and chart our own course, or two, we're walking out the door and a bunch of cheese dicks in Ottawa say, wait, wait. What if we, whatever. And if we decide to hear that conversation,

I don't want to, but the majority of people might. And if the majority of people want to hear that conversation and go, oh, actually, well, you know what? Maybe we should be able to have our own dairy cartel or whatever it is. Why don't you guys get a dairy cartel too? Quebec has one. You guys can have your own police force, your own pension, and your own dairy cartel.

okay well maybe now we're happy I'm being very facetious if you're listening to this and so that's not going to happen until we're walking out the door the decades of asking nicely have come and gone the strongly worded letters fallen on deaf eyeballs

you know what I mean anyways the point is is that they don't give a shit and we're going to continue taking it for as long as we allow ourselves to continue taking it. So maybe we don't. Any final thoughts, too? I crossed the border of Saskatchewan today. How'd that feel?

It feels nice, man. It feels nice. I don't know. I don't do it nearly often enough. And it always makes me happy. Like, just the, I don't know. Like, how often? often you think about it. You live on the border town.

I don't think about it that much. It's nice to be, this is the first time I've been in the new studio. Basically this year. Actually this year. Okay. Well, you think I came back from the in-laws. And immediately Peter was working on the stonework up top. Which looks great. Yeah. It really does. And then as soon as he was done,

then I had Josh back in finishing up the wall. wood and then as soon as he was done then I had Harris electric in finishing the lighting and so like you know every every time I was almost getting back in and then I got staff infection I mean that pretty much right like this is pretty much how the the last two months is which which one of your staff give you syphilis and so like now that I'm thinking about it this is the first time I've been in this studio in the new year and like when we first started this. 24 October is when we first started like doing some things.

I never thought it would take it a year to get in. I certainly didn't think it would, you know, and then I did a series of about seven podcasts in here and we're all wasn't completely finished. And now that's completely finished and I still got to clean the floor and I still got to hang some things and, you know,

we're going to have really echoey audio, aren't we? Ah, it's not terrible. A little bit. Tews is having fun. Oh, like I love this. It's like everything you wanted to have like if you picture the coolest tree house you could imagine as a kid, it kind of has that same sort of feel to it where like, I don't know, even just kind of how it's located and stuff. It kind of seems like the kind of place that I would just be lugging like, you know, if the old man's busy doing something else around the other side of the house,

I'd grab some two by four from the side of the garage. You could drag it out into the pasture. I mean, I wouldn't build something like this, but I'd imagine it being something like this. Well, and it's the type of place that it's better when all four seats are sat in than two. It's still really good on this, but when you have four people around, when we had the military roundtable or Marty's He Man roundtable, like we had the book club out here one day. Like, it's just better when the chairs are full, which is unique compared to the studio in Lloyd,

because in Lloyd, it's like, you're jamming everybody in. It's hard to almost get everybody in. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. Coming back to Saskatchewan, I don't know. I don't really think about it. But now that I'm sitting here, I go, it's the first time all year I've been in the new studio,

and that's saying something. But, I don't know, sun's shining, you know? You're making fun of this deck season. I'm like, I chuckle about it, because I talk about deck season as long as I can because I don't want to talk about winter. I don't want to say the word of winter in my ad reads. I don't even want to put that thought out there.

But as soon as January hits, I'm almost like, I can almost talk about deck season because the days are getting longer. And I know we got a dark month ahead of us, maybe too, but that's it. And then we're back into...

Days are getting longer, man. I know. Days are getting longer, sun's shining. I mean, if it wasn't for this dump of snow, we were golden. It was crazy.

Like, it was all anybody wanted to talk about. Like, I haven't worked basically in a week because of the... Because of the weather? Yeah. Really?

Well, granted, I had the weekend off and then and then we got that like in two days it went from t-shirt weather to four feet of snow. It dropped 50 degrees. Correct. Yeah. Celsius. Which is like 90 degrees, 95 degrees, something like that. 90, oh, it would be actually 90 degrees.

Yeah. Fahrenheit because it's nine fifths or five nines. So it dropped 90 Fahrenheit degrees in two days. And so for those of you listening and Kelvin, it's 50. I tell you what, this spot when it's finally done. The trees are all green and looking lively and it isn't minus 28 outside or whatever it's doing today. This is going to be a spot, man. Oh, dude, I was, I was just thinking when I came in about how, like, because I'd looked at roughly where it was on Google Maps,

I like, you could go for a pretty fun walk a few miles in that direction. Roughly speaking. And like this, this just kind of seems like it would be a fun place to explore. And yeah, I sound like a little kid again, but. You know what, you know what basically is two miles that way? Well, that's exactly it. I don't know. I know that you know, but I don't know if you want to say. Fair enough. Well, we'll talk about it after hours.

But yeah. The, oh, I got some work to do yet in here. But regardless, it's minus 20 something outside. And I don't know about you, but I feel pretty dang comfortable. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's great. I can see with the thermostat you got it at 18.

It kind of feels like a warm 18. And I heard the, Well, I guess heat pump? Mini split. Yeah. Sean put a heat pump in here, by the way, guys. You could talk to Guardian about that. No, actually, I bet you, I bet you they would say what I would think about it without being an HVAC expert is that a heat pump would probably a really good fit for this space because it does air conditioning and heating at the same time.

and you don't, you know, if this was 10 times larger, yeah, you'd want forced air. Like you'd want all the ducks and everything like that, which I'm guessing there's a few kicking around here. I haven't looked at the finer points of it. But the point is, like, you would want a natural gas furnace. Whereas here, oh, it just kicked in. Listen, listen, you can hear it.

You can hear it. Have you felt the floor? Oh, yeah, that's right, because it's radiant floor heating. I didn't even think about it But yeah I've had my feet on the floor this whole time That's right But yeah

A heat pump would be a good fit for this place Anyway It's a solution that makes sense for the space Well I tell you what And it probably let you get rid of your oil heater I'm hopeful that Sean Newman

You know I was doing my How many how many years it would take me to get to 10,000. Yeah, you're going to be 84. Yeah. And I'm like, well, in that case, I got 44 years left in the old building. All right, that seems like a pretty good tradeoff.

Well, I mean, 10 roofs, that should be about as long as you'd expect them to last. The trim in here is pretty timeless. I'm guessing at some point you'd come up with better gyroscopic camera holders. and things like that so that you don't have to have somebody fiddling around with the bubble for a while.

Like, who knows what they'll invent in the next 40 years. That's a farmer doing a farmer fix. That's with all these are. Oh, you got a farmer to come in here? I grew up a farmer, you jackass. I guess I'm not anymore. Oh, it's...

That's how they taught me. You put together a bunch of things and you hook it up and if it works, it works. It works just fine. Oh, yeah. Could it be better? It always can be better.

Oh, I think this place works phenomenally well. I mean, granted, I was pretty involved in the consultation on it, but, no. Dude, I love this spot. It's great. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the day when CIS knocks down the door. That'll be a sad day. Can you just open the door? You don't need to knock it down, man.

It's not even locked. Just slide it open. Just come on it. God, you guys are dicks. Tews, as always. Unless you got something else. I don't know, man. I think you did a,

you've done a pretty good job pointing everybody out on the board over the past while. It's something that, if your name or your logo is up on there, this is absolutely something to be proud of. It's remarkable. I think it's great.

It's so cool. And everybody who helped you out with it, you guys are wonderful. Now we just got to find a way to do, uh, everybody wants like a grand opening. In the secret location. The bat cave didn't have a grand opening guys.

A grand opening in Lloyd. Okay, a grand opening. Just have a camera and just show them the inside. There's the inside. We can't go see it? No, you're not allowed to go see it. Oh, it's a super secret base. Did you tell the girls where your tree fort was?

I didn't think so. Tews, as always, we're going to catch up to you on the mashup anyways. Yeah, I guess I'm going to be talking about. We already talked to you on the mashup, but regardless, thanks for it. It was... Thanks for making the drive, man. Yeah, I mean, it was great that I was able to go here before the mashup, which aired before this. Yes, if you can jump through this train thought.

Appreciate you making the drive. Hey, man. Thanks for having me. It's a standing invitation because, like, you know, like... Well, I don't know if it's... Is it a standing invitation like any time? Because you just said, I want you to come on out. And I said, okay, well, I'm going to make it a priority to get out here as soon as I can, which I did.

It's pretty much a standing invitation. Okay. All right. The next time, the next thing what I would do is I would turn into a blue color roundtable and I'd try and add some people in the seats. You got to get some rigors out here, man. Sure. Yeah. To all the rigors listen.

Tews comes back. The problem we're going to have with all of you is getting you off work to actually come sitting. No, the problem you're going to have is figuring out a ride home. Well, I'll be the ride home. You guys can sit and have all the bows you want. Oh, yeah, that'll be great. So, yeah. Yeah, what's up, my rigors?

So, yes, the standing invitation. is still there. I just think the next time we do it, we do a blue color roundtable. That would be all right. That would be all right. You need to do a blue color roundtable on separation. With who?

You and Chris Scott and or you want. Actually, you know what? It was so cool because I didn't know Chris Scott was a rig guy until. Until I interviewed him. Yeah. But there's a lot of really intellectual people. or people who want to sound intellectual or some mix of both talking about separation. Okay.

And so if you had some blue collar guys talking about what they think about it, why and how they think they could win. Like, don't get me wrong. I'm not, I thought that what you did with, uh, with Tim and Chuck and David was awesome. And it was really good. But if you did that exact same thing with a few. you more F bombs, you would get surprisingly profound results. Well, I tell you what, if you're listening to this and you know a blue-collar guy here in Alberta

that wants to come on and talk independence, let's find three of them. We'll stick them together. There you go. Pretty simple. All right. That's her. Toos. Thanks for making it in. Hey, man. Thanks for having me.