Shaun Newman Podcast - #1013 - Chuck Prodonick & Jim Sinclair

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

Chuck Prodonick spent 20+ years in the Canadian military. He is a retired sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas. Jim Sinclair served 33 years in the Canadian Military. He’s a retired corporal, former member of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas.Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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Good to see you back alive there. Sean. Yeah, I sound like an 80-year-old smoker right now. Other than that, I feel pretty good. Guess what kills all that shit, Sean? What's that? Well, you had, you had syphilis or whatever that other thing you had there. You know. You'll make me laugh, Jamie. Well, Jesus Christ, every since you quit drinking, you've got body infections, you got colds, like, hey, I'm just saying. You're saying get back on the wagon. Well, have a little bit of alcohol on your system, and it's like, it's, it kills all that shit. Yeah.

Uh, yes. Okay. Well, I'm not fucking sick. Stop making me laugh, Sinclair. I'll just take, I'll just take you off this. Okay, calm down. Okay. Gentlemen, I've had Tom Luongo, Alex Traynor, Susan Kokinda, Matt Erritt, I think to this point, talk about Iran.

and what's been going on there. Is something going on there? Yeah, what's happening there? I figured, you know, it seems, you know, if I'd plan this out and hadn't been gone to Panama City for the last four days, that I would have planned out a military roundtable where you guys could have got together and Jamie could have drank some bow and everything else. But I was kind of curious that the guys I always lean on from the Canadian military.

Well, of course, folks, Jamie's going to go grab one. we're waiting on you. No, no, don't wait. Keep going. Well, I'm curious. You know, you two, like, I mean, you got a conflict going on in Iran. They're bombing the living crap out of them. What are your guys' thoughts on what's happening overseas?

Go ahead. You go first, Chuck. Oh, geez. Mark this one down. Look, I've heard a lot of the arguments, especially like I listened to the one. with Alex and Tom and the other lady I don't remember her name. Susan Kokanda.

That lady. It was a great conversation. I was a little surprised that Alex's takeaway from it, I guess. Or it is what it is. Everybody's going to have their own opinion on it. Look, people are acting like this war started last week.

Anybody that's old enough to remember how things really got kicked off just under 50 years ago, closer to 47 years ago, this war has been hot and cold for decades and nothing was getting done except the can kick down the road as these negotiations about nukes and at the end of the day in my opinion

it had to happen this was going to happen eventually and it was done on American terms and under Trump's terms their military is strong right now he's rebuilt it he's reinvigorated it they have a purpose again they're unveiling new toys in every operation that you're like, well, they've got that now and they're willing to show it.

Their capabilities, nobody's going to touch them right now. I think they did the right thing. They're not putting boots on the ground in a conventional sense. They're using the Kurds with some, well, you know who's going to be backing that up and enabling them. It'll be CIA and SF groups doing what they do to make the Kurds do what they're doing, or Kurds have wanted to do this for a while. Look, people are going to think that this war shouldn't happen. Mostly those are people here in Canada.

I mean, they're all around the world, but the ones here in Canada specifically don't want it to happen because we were left out of the loop. And they can't understand why would Canada not be asked to join? Why would Canada not even be informed about it? Well, because on the geopolitical stage, if you're another country looking at Canada, we're compromised. We're basically, we're not basically,

we're out and out stating from the prime minister on down to every one of his mouthpieces in the media and his ministers are openly stating and have been for months since the trade war started that we'll just work with China. It's China, China, China, China, we're just going to do everything with China. We like how China does stuff. We're with China. They're saying this openly. So of course, when you have President Trump and his guys going, well, we already know you're compromised, we're not going to give you the heads up. And that's pissed off a lot of our people. the war has to happen. You've seen our own Prime Minister go back and forth, I think, six or seven times in the last week on whether he supports the war, whether he doesn't support the war. It's an illegal war, but we're going to help in the war. We're not going to help in the war.

Well, we might help our partners in the region. Who's our partners in the region? Our partners south of the border. But they weren't asked to help because we can't help. We all know we can't help. The British, they've made a muckery of it too. and I'm not just talking militarily where they can't deploy a Navy that was once the

fucking pride of the world they basically their Lloyds of London have now pulled you know they vacillated on insuring these ships and they've had them monopoly on that for a long time and it's made England a lot of money over the years and has given them a lot of influence

and power Trump pulled that from them you don't want to insure them we'll insure them not only will we insure them we're going to protect those ships England does know what to do at this point, except more of nothing. This is going to be, in my opinion, because of this, and how NATO countries have reacted,

this should start the fall completely of NATO. This should absolutely show what NATO is worth, and it's nothing. It's more Middle Eastern countries backing Trump's play right now than anybody in NATO, other than Greece has gotten involved a little bit to defend themselves. Spain, are you kidding me? Until they threatened to do away with all their trade, then they got a little bit involved here and there,

a little bit, kind of, sort of. This, at the end of the day, this also pulls all the oil from China that comes from Iran illegally. Like, that's another factor that people aren't looking at. Go ahead, Jamie. All right. Well, fuck, great, great look at it there, Chuck.

Lots of think about there. I agree to Chuck and lots of different aspects, especially when it comes to using the Kurds to, to, because there are homeless people, like they border Turkey, they border Syria, they border Iraq, and they also have, you know, tribal grounds inside of Iran. So, so like they've been pushed around for centuries, those people. So, and they're, they're motivated to fight. And I, I believe that they definitely will be brought in at some point and they're already actually doing shit. But the, what is that faction called that's the Artaesh, which is the Iranian reserve that that are non, non-radicalized part of the military.

I really feel they're going to be involved in this. The Mossad and the American, whatever special forces group you want to, they've all been in and out of our, out of that. part of the world for years. And they've made footholds and they've got Intel and they've been preparing this for for years for this to happen. June 13th, when Iran attacked Israel and then they responded, I think, on the 22nd. I was on a podcast with you Sean and I was talking about, you know, this is the beginning of the overthrow of Iran, which is now happening. They also talked about, or I also talked about at that time, that this will actually bring about the purse or the people that were in charge of the assassination attempt on Trump.

They found that guy and they got rid of him. So, like, this stuff is happening. And the only reason, like, Chuck and I maybe have an idea what's going on over there is because you can foresee all the pieces moving around and you can just kind of place it together. And we've been doing this for 30 years. so doesn't mean we're intelligence experts, but we've got our finger on the pulse because being in the military,

kind of assuming where your next appointment's going to be is the reason why we always pay attention to this stuff, not because we're warmongerers or what have you. Okay, so having said that, this is the one and only opportunity for the Iranian people to take control of their country back. Went back in the 70s when they took control of the, Persian people under an Arabic rule of law, even the symbol on the Iranian flag is Arabic.

It's not even Persian. And they've been wanting to roll this back for years. But now that the Muslims have got such a control over that country, they can't do nothing until they have the weaponry to stand up for themselves. And like most countries in the world that have been disarmed, they can't change their leadership once they become radicalized. So we've kind of seen that elsewhere. And Chuck brought up England and England and Canada.

So England's a Muslim country. If they were to declare war against that religious leader, there'd be riots in the streets like you wouldn't believe. And our own leader, he's saying that Muslim values or Canadian values. So internationally he's saying he's supporting the Canadians. Back at home, he's saying, oh, well, you know, we got to have a ceasefire and all that bullshit. He can't, he's got to play.

Like, he's, he's playing the game of the exact game is what they're playing in England. And that's why they're powerless, because there's so many Muslims inside of their country that would stand up and, and cause chaos in the streets. So, yeah, no, like, it's, it's a tricky, tricky thing going on here right now. I believe that they'll follow the, the play that they, want to do in Afghanistan when Trump said that they were going to pull out, they were going to help

the special forces hold baggroom and the Canada Airfield. The special forces would mentor and lead the Afghanis in the battle and help them with calling indirect fire and help them with organizations of their teams bring in Intel.

And this is a special forces environment for war. As for boots on the ground, the Americans have to look at China. They can't commit their large mechanized forces or their tier one forces to fighting in in the Middle East. That's going to be an SF role. They do it great. This is totally suited for them. They'll use Israeli air power because Israel is not going to do anything over in China. Eventually, all those aircraft carriers, they're almost in position to be in a

right spots for anything that's going on in China anyway. They're already a few days away for sailing there. The other thing that the states wanted was to take Bagam Air Base back. They won't have to do that now because they'll build a big fucking airbase in the northeastern side of Iran that they'll be able to watch what China is doing and also have influence over Pakistan and Afghanistan and southern parts of Russia as well. So this does lots of great things. Some oil being taken away from China. That's going to bring them to the table. That's going to set back their ability to launch an attack on Taiwan next year or the year after. This is going to push all of their timings back because one by one, we're taking down all of

China's allies that they need. The next thing. Venezuela was a part of that whale. Oh, that was huge. Yeah. That was huge. The next thing is North Korea. So when Iran, was building these rockets to be able to touch Europe and eventually United States and such, they test fired all those in North Korea. Those were those missiles they were shooting over towards Japan and such. That technology came from Iran. So now that the Iranian missile technology is not there, this is going to hinder anything to North Korea wants to do.

And so it's this has been building for a while, like Chuck says. it's a great thing that's happening. I just heard on the news today about high fuel prices. So we all got reserves around the world that in times like this, you can start using your reserves to lower the fuel costs. Okay, they're not really that worried about it yet because, you know, this eventually is going to stabilize or they'd be using their fuel reserves right now. They are on the news in Regina today, they were blaming our,

Israel for attacking fuel refineries in Iran for the high fuel costs, they totally forgot to mention that Iran just hit Saudi Arabians refineries, which creates like 60% of the world's fucking fuel. They're the largest producers of oil. So like the media is totally on side with, you know, being on the Iranian side instead of like, like trying to actually report the truth. It's ridiculous. And to quote like General Rick Hiller, which Jack doesn't like,

but Rick Hiller was on the radio the other day. And he nailed it. He's like, at home as Canadians, of course we're not going to have anything to do with Iran because we're such a compromised country. They can't tell us any secrets to begin with. But what our country of Canada can be doing,

number one, deporting all the Iranian officials that are inside of Canada, to send them to fucking Russia or wherever the fuck you want to send them. The second thing is any assets that Iran has in Canada seize the assets. Don't let them use that money for sponsoring world terrorism throughout the world like they have been for years. And there'll be a large sum of money held within Canada because it's a safe place for it to be. So in all these Canadian banks that have all this currency, seize it just like they did

to the truckers. Hey, they can do it to the Iranians now, right? So they got that down, Pat. And let's tighten up the noose around those organizations that we can inside of Canada. And that's going to help the next government that takes over to push forward. And Trump's right. He's not going to let some dictator let his, after he gets killed, get his son to be the new leader. Like that guy, I can't believe he took the job.

Like, is the guy fucking, does he not have a window in his house and see everybody getting fucking killed around him? Like, what a fucking shitty promotion. Like, it's, it's not a good move for him. But people got to remember, too, that without Iran, you don't have Hamas. You don't have the, in Yemen, all these little backed up terrorist groups throughout North Africa, Africa proper, and the rest of the Middle East and all over the place, they're all funded by Iran. Iran brags about funding them. Their minister of propaganda was on, like, day one of the thing, and he was actually asked by a reporter during everything blowing up, like, well, you know, you guys are funding these people. He goes, well, we give the money.

I wouldn't say we're funding them. He basically waffled his way through it, but everybody in the world knows that's where the money comes from. Well, Chuck, look after 9-11. Yeah. We had terrorism in, in Ireland, the IRA. terrorists throughout Germany, Italy, Spain, and they were all funded. And they kept their money in banks in the United States and Canada and Europe. And the United States that sees all terrorist bank accounts.

That shut down the IRA. Like they were bankrupt the next day. And when Obama dropped off, I don't know how many billions of dollars in literally cardboard fucking boxes on the airfield in Tyran to get. them to stop their nuclear program, all that money went to funding terrorism around the fucking world. 100%. So by Canada seizing them banks and not

letting any of that money go outwards to their terrorist organizations because that's the first thing they're going to want to do is wire all that fucking money out of the country and get it in the hands of their of their proxies. If we can stop that, that's going to stop a lot of this fucking bullshit.

A couple things too. Like the the fact that we use Canadians right now are especially of course the Laurentians and our politicians and our media class are all looking at it in this certain way

I'm convinced that if the event of like you've seen the movie Argo Ben Affleck it's basically when the Iran rose up and took over the American embassy and took a bunch of hostages and then a bunch that escaped, went to the Canadian name, but for the younger folks might not know this. A bunch of Americans were rescued and given shelter by Canadians and hidden for a long period of time.

Yeah, our Csus got them out there. Yeah, and we're hidden and eventually gotten out of the country as like fake Canadians. And that took a lot of courage to do what they did in that environment to do that kind of thing. It was very balsy. I'm convinced today in today's climate that we have in this country, our people would hand them over. There would be no movie Argo, which is a good movie. I mean, it hits most of the key points. We would do the exact opposite of the right thing.

We would be handing over the Americans to the Iranians for beheading and YouTube videos. We have no moral high ground to be spouting off about anything. hear these pundits going on CBC, then every other channel. They had one fellow on, he's a YouTuber or a influencer, who very famously a few months ago got in trouble for basically torturing

dogs on his podcast, and has been quoted as saying Americans deserved 9-11. This is who the CBC brings on as their geopolitical expert on America bad. Are you kidding me? Like this, but the boomers, boomers are watching this and eating

it up. Chuck. Chuck. Our our number one worst enemy out there that nobody's talking about and and we're talk everybody's talking about china like people are mentioning that word the number one enemy that nobody's talking about that everybody loves is the united nations yeah united nations is so fucking corrupt and complacent and knowing that these things are going on they've been supporting terrorist activities throughout Israel and such for years. China's the head puppet leader of United Nations. They get all those African countries to speak for them in.

And like, what do they do for the world? What do they do for the world? Fucking nothing. They, they're, what they're good for is bringing out health fucking shit that makes countries vaccinate other people when they're not willing to fucking do it. and governments buy into that bullshit. And they're great for climate warfare stuff. But they're actually such a broken organization.

I'm proud of Trump bringing in the council of peace. And you have to put money in it to be part of it. And it's going to be regions of the world that are there for the right reasons. And we've got to fucking get rid of the United Nations. I've seen how they worked in Africa. They've unload bags of grain with big American flags on it that were supposed to go. to the starving fucking people of that country and a Chinese ship with a

Chinese flag on it rolled up and he loaded all the grain onto it. And it was fucking. It never went to, it never goes to the people that need it. And that kind of shit's got to stop. And yeah. You look at the NATO perspective. I hope this is the end of the United Nations.

And NATO as well. You look at what happened with the Greenland stuff about a month ago. And NATO was like, well, essentially saying we're going to stop America one way or the other from taking Greenland, NATO couldn't fight the Salvation Army at this point. Canada certainly couldn't. Well, I look at it differently, and I think Trump is crazy like a fucking fox, right?

So he got the whole world worked up about NATO or about Greenland. And to tell you the truth, Greenland offered to sell that to Trump in 2019. So he was just renegotiate or restarting up that that, that, that sail. Here's the thing. He got them so fucking worked up. NATO said, hey, listen, we'll take care of NATO from the bottom of the sea to outer space. We'll control that. We'll take care of it. So it gives them a right to exist. So now they got a new purpose. The second thing that this does, now NATO countries have to pay for the Golden Dome that is going to protect the northern flag of America and us.

The third thing that this is going to do, once the Golden Dome is set up over North America, NATO's going to have to pay for it to be set up in fucking over Europe. And guess who makes all the money out of that? The United States. So this was going to cost the United States $44 million to give everybody fucking how much money to be part of the United States as a, not a state, but whatever you call those offsets like that. They got in South America, they got a country down there that's like, I forget what word they use it.

It's a territory of the United States. So now this is actually costing them zero. The people of Greenland are getting nothing for funding from the Americans for their country. And now they're going to have to spend money because Denmark's going to have to put money into the golden dome that's going to protect the United States. So I think he's fucking brilliant in his strategy. and NATO's got to fucking protect it. So I think he did a pretty smart thing there. Oh, he did a very smart thing.

I mean, he's working with the South American leaders. What is he calling up the Alliance of the Americas or something now, where he's essentially got the major players on board to guard our side of the hemisphere. The only people who aren't on board wouldn't you know is basically our leaders in Canada. Yeah. And a large portion of the Laurentian. side of things. We who have lived

under the grace of their protection for the better part of the century want to boo them, mock them, deride them in every way, shape, or form, including on the world stage, and then wonder, well, we're not included in a thing. We're not even

given the heads up like by the way, when you wake up tomorrow, we're going to war, we're going to war. What do you guys think of the talks about them not having enough munitions to keep going at Iran. Hey, I am. Before we get into that,

no, Chuck's telling me no. What, Jamie? I'm going to forget about this point. I'm going to forget about this point. All right. If you look on your fucking map and you look at the very southern tip of South America,

right up to the very top of your map where it says North America in the North Pole, it's all the fucking Americas. So everybody that's out there going, oh, he's calling that America, America, because it is. And the fucking Gulf of Mexico. is... Gulf of America.

It's the Gulf of America because Biden put on a fucking no drilling for oil into Gulf of Mexico. So the fastest people way around that is rename it to the Gulf of America. Like it's that fucking simple. And that's what I mean. He's crazy like a fox. And as for missiles,

I'll go first this time, John, since I'm a lot of red. Yeah, you keep going. As for ammunition stocks. Okay. So it's the Jamie Sinclair show today. You're never going to fucking know what they got. You're never going to know what they got for fucking ammunition stocks. So yes, they're like, okay, we're prepared for a 10 or 15 day fucking battle with Iran, right?

So what you've got to remember when Trump took over in this last term, he went to every military installation that builds shit for the United States. And he said, okay, this piece of equipment, you can sell it to all of our allies for that much. We want it for half price or whatever they negotiated. So that's that. And then he said, okay, you guys are making so many missiles per month. Within two years, you got to make this many missiles. And if you make these, if you're actually following through and you're making these systems to do the volumes they want, get a bonus. The other thing is, when you have these missiles, it's not like you just bring

them back to your factory and refurbish them, which they're going to do in the future. They're going to build them like that. They're going to be able to refurbish these rockets and such. The ones they got now, they got to fucking shoot them. They can't sit on these fucking things, even if they want to. So it's like when Canada supplies aid to the Ukraine, it's stuff that we would cook off or just fucking burn off anyway. How many labs are we giving them? Like 66 labs? That's a battalion's worth of labs.

Oh, yeah, but we got the lab six now. We gave him lab threes. What do you make? What do you make? Didn't we give them lab threes? What did we give them? We gave them a battalions worth of labs. Like, not the shitty ones.

No. I'm driving home. I'm driving home. I'm driving home last night from the airport, right? And I flip on, I go, I wonder what Tucker Carlson say. So I flip on Tucker. And he's interviewing a journalist. And forgive me if I don't have the, you know what, folks, I'll take a quick look here.

And regardless as, as I'm looking, the journalist is talking about how they don't have enough munitions. They're going to run out of missiles, right? It's just a foregone. How does that fucking journalists know that? I don't know. No, no, no. No, no. Just let me finish my thoughts.

But, Jamie, stop it. I'm going to come through the screen. Hurry up. Well, you're sick. So I'm listening to a journalist doing his work, doing his thing, talking about how they're going to run out of munitions. And I go, I wonder how he knows that. And then I'm sitting here thinking this morning,

I'm like, I'm going to be checking Jamie think of a journalist telling them how many, how many, you know, missiles they got. And I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of texts because maybe he's got information from here, or there, or everywhere. But you guys have been in lots of different fights, okay? when we were talking about Russia, Ukraine, go back a few military roundtables. You two were kind of on the opposite side of this.

I don't know. Well, we still are, I think. Yeah, well, fair enough. So it shocks me you're both on the same side of this one. I'm like, oh, interesting. And that the United States hasn't been really in a conflict, but you believe Trump has rebuilt the U.S. military. Yes.

And that they are capable of sustaining pressure on Iran. I've been to a couple of wars with Americans, and they ain't going to run out of ammo. They're big on shooting things and shooting it until it's really fucking dead or blown up. They're not going to run out. With regards to what they were giving Ukraine, as far as javelins and a few other very high-tech anti-tank munitions, their stockpiles were getting, admittedly, they were self-admitting, like, yeah, we kind of got to tone this down a bit. They're expensive, and it takes a lot to build them. They're not simple munitions.

There was a few munitions, ground-based munitions they were starting to get a little blurry on. Do I think that they held enough back to defend themselves? Yeah, I'm guessing. They've got 14,000 military aircraft, which is something like 10,000 more than the next biggest country, which is either China or India, I forget which, at like 3,000. If they ran every airplane in there,

every combat airplane in there with like a slingshot, they're still not running out of ammunition. They've got ammo for days for this. They're not going to run out of them. So going back to, I know you don't like this guy, Ryan McBethy's fucking, he's an annulus,

but what they're doing now, so they got big stockpiles of missiles and fucking drones and all that bullshit the fire. Well, that's the arrow, okay? The system that launches all this stuff, that's the Archer.

So what Israel and United States, States are doing now is they're killing the fucking archers. So you get up all the stockpiles in the fucking world you want. But if you got 10,000 rockets, you only have like 50 fucking launchers. And you just don't build those things overnight. It's not like in Afghanistan when they'd lay it on a fucking rock and drain some fuel and then fire it and it would just go wherever. Like they actually got to fucking put in coordinates and aim these things so they hit the enemy. And most of their launch systems have been taken out in the first couple days. So they're This bombing campaign is going to start winding down in maybe 10 days, five days, who fucking knows.

And the ground force part, either the Kurds or the Artax or whatever to fuck they're called, that's when they're going to start rolling up all the hardcore Muslim police and military that have fucking nothing. They've been bombed the fuck. And the Arthash will be well supplied. They'll be air dropping in all kinds of ammunition and weaponry for these guys. And the Kurds, same thing. They'll come in from the north. Your Tash will come in from the south.

And they'll fucking, it's going to be ugly for a year or two or whatever. But there'll be strategic airstrikes. They'll be conducted by Israel by that time. Because the Americans are going to refocus on China and watch what they're fucking doing. Or us. Yeah, or us. But anyways, no, they'll, like, this is going to eventually get, like, you know, door to door, like the shit that Chuck and I used to do.

but it's not going to be done by the regular army of any NATO force. This will be all in-house and with the Kurds. It's funny, too, we talked about NATO for a brief minute, and one of the things that kind of got glossed over in the news in the last few days was when Zelensky threatened the life of Victor Orban, Victor Orban, being the PM of Hungary, which is a NATO country. And I don't know how many hairs people want to split. Sorry, that's my cat screaming to go outside.

I don't know how much people want to split this nugget, but that could be an Article 5 moment when some country, Zelensky's country, who has been blackmailing everybody with his oil and letting oil go through, and then Orban says, you know what, then I'm not going to let your $90 billion euro package go through. He threatens him,

threatens him in a press conference with, yeah, I'll let my boy. Okay, okay. Hey, we're not talking about Russia, China, A Russia and fucking Ukraine. No, no, no. I'm just saying as the greater NATO pitcher, this just showed, nobody over here even talked about it.

There wasn't even anything I saw. There was not even a statement put out, but any minister over here, you can just tell Freelan's over there in the Ukraine or wherever she's sitting in a bunker typing madly like nothing to see here while our people are like nothing to see here. We're just going to keep sending

them billions and billions and billions and billions that we don't have. NATO NATO was useless in this instance that the country's Trump did ask to let him use their bases, said no, the ones that

might have been on board, don't have anything to send anyway, were so corrupted and compromised, he didn't even let us know what was going to happen and didn't ask us for help when it did happen, because we have nothing to send. They would literally have to do like they did

in the early days of Afghanistan, pick us up, and fly us over, and then give us shit when we're, you know, that's that's where we're at as a country and you can hear all these people oh our recruitment is up yeah recruitment's up because you're given there's no standard in for training anymore you're pay bumping them through the wazoo which is good i'm not knocking soldiers getting decent pay but this comes at a time when this is the only incentive to join is i can basically be myself and have no standard worth of training and get a big pay bump a big pay bonus to join we you're going to send these people I'm going to I'm going to I know we only got a little bit more time here let me finish up okay Jamie okay so yes Chuck great point about NATO they're not going to fucking help guess what is going to help hopefully fucking Iran keeps like taking out uh their neighbors refineries because like fucking Saudi Arabia will be sending their people like there'll be all

kinds of fucking people wanting to go and fucking get control of Iran, especially their neighbors, because they need a stable environment. They can't have a fucking chaotic situation like that going on next door. So there's going to be lots of people that are going to get involved.

It's not going to be NATO forces. Because NATO really is going to be looking elsewhere. Like NATO is going to make an enemy out of Russia. Whatever. They're also going to have to protect the Arctic. Okay, that's great.

Fucking, that's a good job for them. The United States and, um, fucking Australia, New Zealand, fucking Japan, South Korea, their eyes are on China. That's, that's where the, everybody's shifting to after this little,

uh, spat is over. And, uh, if, if anything, this is going to push China back a year or two. Oh, but they'll be ready for when China's,

said they're going to launch. So that's where we're, that's where we're heading. That's just my assumption. But like it or not, China said a, said a thing and he got digging for the word. So I feel that the Americans, that's going to be their next focus. There wasn't South Korea begging us for oil this morning? Probably. They're begging Canada for oil. But hey, hey, there's no fucking case for that. There's no case for it. There's no pipeline for that. We don't need to sell this oil. No, this oil is really good in the ground.

It's really nice. Hey, hey, fucking Chuck, get out there, get all your people to start signing it so you guys can separate. Dude, everybody's signing here. Yeah, fucking oil. Everybody's signing here, man. Yeah, good. We're done.

You guys can be the ones that save Canada. Because if you guys separate, Canada's going to have to tighten the belt and stop all this bullshit. So thank you for what you guys are doing over there. I was told by an old buddy of ours. I won't say his name. on here he told me

we should just give up our third ATV in Alberta to make things easier for them in the east and double down on it and I'm like well

I know it wasn't Kevin Hermison because he's fucking dead yeah he's dead in the river yeah we'll talk offline about him the other one even in

even in Panama City Alberta Independence was a conversation oh really yeah fuck right on yeah lots of Canadian Canadians

expats perspective Canadians wanting to get out, etc. I'll keep up the good work, you guys. That came up. Hey, whoa, our nation needs you to do it. Before I let you out of here,

I am curious about it. I'm not leaving. Well, we both know, me and Chuck both know. You, I'm just getting going here. That's right. We should just have a Jamie show, folks,

where I just give him the reins, and he can just talk. Me, I don't know the reins. No, you bet. the rain's this entire time pretty much. Yeah, you've been whipping me around. Okay, the girls' school, the bombing there, right? That's been a big, like, their bomb and children.

Right? I didn't hear about this. There was like day one or two, and it turns out it was Iranians. So it was the Iranians. I don't know if I knew that. I think even on telegram, they kind of came out with the Iranians made an oopsie. You know, they're, now it could have been something. Like a fall short, like their missiles could.

Yeah. It could have been also like the American systems knocking down their missiles. It could have been a result of that too. It's war. It's going to get messy. It's unfortunate, obviously, that it happened. But it's not like the Americans have this package of, you know, an Intel briefing going, put this school on the list. We're going to knock the school off.

It's not Obama running the show anymore where he does this kind of shit. It's, you know, it's they're going to try to mitigate that. Then let me ask one more question. I was a Trumper because he was going to be the no war guy. Now he's went into Venezuela, helped in Mexico. Well, hey, yeah. Hang on the crap out of Iraq. Isn't that war?

Pump the brakes. Sure. Venezuela. So China controlled the Panama Canal. So he had to kick China out of there. Guess what China did? They put their fucking surface to sea missiles in Venezuela, which cuts off the east side of the Panama.

canal. So if you're going to fucking allow your number one adversary to put fucking missile systems on your country, you better be prepared for the fucking recourse. So that's... So he goes in. Yeah, he goes in. I agree. He goes into Venezuela. I think most of us went.

I don't know. Okay. All right. And this war with Iran, it could happen now. It could have happened 10 years from now. Like, Iran made a big mistake by attacking him on the 13th of June. That's fed up the whole fucking Not just that. Iran has been low-key bragging, low-key bragging during this negotiation period that they're doing, that it would only take them two weeks to manufacture with the material they have about 10 or 11, you know, nukes at this point. They were low-key flexing that in the negotiations, apparently.

Yeah, try and launch them. You've got 13, yeah, but you ain't going to fucking open-door the office. This is what I'm saying, though, is they have for a year had this capability now, to get to where they're at only because this can's been kicked down the road by every other president and Trump said it's not going to be on my watch it's not going to happen Obama and Biden

well and Trump doesn't have to get reelected he's not getting reelected because he can't run again so he's just going to go for broke and look it might be splitting hairs here again but if he's not putting American boots on the ground like other than some SF and CIA guys

they're not going to even entertain it as a real war. This is just a bombing campaign, much like we did to Serbia, you know, as NATO did for some fucking reason and then called it justified under Bill Clinton to divert things from a blue dress. But like, we'll just go to bomb a piss out of the Serbs. That work their level. Yeah. So like, yeah, I get what you're saying, Sean. He's been a war president. I think what he's done here is ended a 47-year war. Or he's in the process of end. that war. What he did with Maduro?

What he did with Maduro? You know what? That wasn't a war. That was a fucking picnic. That was like, it's going to fucking lose. You mentioned the Chinese surface-to-sea missiles. What they're showing now in Iran is all these Chinese anti-air missiles, air defense missiles and their systems have just been junked. They're just, they've been useless. And that's, I'm not saying that's China's top tier of anti-air defense.

But it's what they sell. It's what they sell. It's like what they sell. And it did nothing. Made fucking China. It's I think, you know. So do you do you, how do you, how do you wade through that gentleman to know if it's true or not? Do you really think China's weaponry isn't capable?

Oh, no. China's weaponry is capable. Okay. What they keep back is capable. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So here's the thing about Chuck and I.

We, we have acts. We, we don't write books. We don't, people don't pay us for our information. I can barely read it. We have, yeah, if we make a mistake, we can walk back our mistakes. We're mad enough doing it up to that. Other people that you, that fucking write books and people go and talk to, like reporters and such, they got an agenda and they push their agendas.

And so that, that's where the news gets all fucked up. by talking with people that have no skin in the game, these are our thoughts. Doesn't mean we're right. But we've been pretty fucking accurate at some of the shit that's been going on. So I guess what I'm saying is when people are looking for news, like there's organizations out there like SMP, but there's ground news.

There's guys like Ryan Macbeth. Like there's people out there that you can. source and you're going to get the news for free and and it's well ground news is going to cost you something but it's going to give you your own you can build your own mindset and your own opinions and move forward uh i i know i'm not 100% right i got an ex-white that tells me that all the time but but anyways uh i i'm pretty close to rate sometimes and uh i i feel this is well in in this conversation jamie the thing that that uh leans well into what you two have done, you know,

is you got over three decades. Trucks got over two decades. You've both served overseas and have been in kinetic warfare. We've seen this shit play out before in other countries. Right. So I got nothing against people who study and watch this stuff. Heck, I bring them on all the time. You both know that.

But an academic versus like boots on the ground are two different things. Just like I assume you would agree, like an intelligence officer or something like that is a little different as well. And you're just trying, you're just trying. Intelligence officers are real helpful. Real helpful people.

Like the guys that said August 3rd was going to be a cakewalk. Yeah, it'll be a cakewalk. Oh yeah, there's only six guys in Hyderabad and there was 50. Yeah, the intelligence in any army is just, it's useless in my opinion. But Jamie mentioned the news and that kind of thing a second ago. And it's, look, our media is only showing wailing men and women and Iran beating their chest and wailing the way that they do because the Aitola is gone

and he's a martyr, he's a sat and the other thing, you go on Telegram and some independent, like the videos they're getting out of Iran of the people, they're doing the Trump dance. They fucking love the guy. They're literally, I'm not kidding, there are videos on telegram of mass crowds of these people celebrating what's going on as their liberation doing the Trump dance. It's actually, it'll bring a tear to your eye because these people have had no chance to do this. 30,000 them estimated were murdered by their own government in the streets in the last month.

You know, and then you hear like these other major news outlets go, well, it was only like 3,000. It was only like 3,000. Hey, only 3,000 on the low end. It wasn't 3,000 either. Just go back to the Trump dance at Gopher off a caddyshack. He's got royalties on the Trump dance. Well, I don't think Trump's worried about getting sued about that kind of.

I don't know. Trump will give them some money. You might good dance. Look at the end, I mean, you had a guy on there with that panel, you know, with Longo and Craneer, and they both had, they both have very valid points. They both do. Are they trying to say that this is all England? England set this war up? Is that what they were saying? I don't think England set the war up, but England's tentacles go pretty deep into everything, too. I don't, I love those guys, but I don't, I don't buy into their, into the message at all.

find it interesting though that Trump is now sorry my dog's chasing the cap my that that Trump has circumvented Lloyd's of London in a huge way he's kneecapped them we'll see how it please hey let's not go down that road because it's totally I don't believe in that fucking at all I'm not getting into entertain that if you don't believe in it we'll just leave that alone then we'll just yeah thank you

we'll put that over there to Luongo about that shit it's fucking China that puppet controls everything and pushes the message it's the slow drip out of there fucking read the book the fucking art or the art of war I did read the art of

was that written by Chinaman? Yep. Sun Tzu. Yeah. And if everything if you understand that book everything that's going on in our world is you have crayons all over

your copy I'm sure. Fucking right. I even ate I even eat them from time to time. Gentlemen, thanks for doing this. Is there any final thoughts you have before I let you out of here? Just the, yeah, of course, this is a hot war now. It's a, it's a, it's a hot war.

You don't, we don't, nobody knows how things will turn out. People have been messaging or asking or texting or calling about, what's going to happen here? I don't know. But if what's happening in the U.S. is in the indication, there have been terrorist attacks already, several different types, several different places against different targets. Speaking, speaking of that, uh, truck, have you talked to Henry, uh, uh, Jamie? No, no, no. They were down in Texas and were in the bar like a half an hour before the shooting there.

So I never even, I didn't even hear about it. I mean, in fairness, I was flying when it was going on. So, but yeah, like I haven't heard a whole bunch about any of that other than they were there and they were telling me all about it, how it sounded like, you know, it was directly related to what's going on in around. Iran. Absolutely. So here's a beautiful thing about that is that no more of that stuff has been going on. So all the sleeper cells that are in United States, Canada and such, maybe they're seeing the writing on the wall and they're going, maybe this isn't worth losing our lives over

and having our families in fucking Iran persecuted after we do something stupid. So I guess I want to end with this is that this is horrific. many lives will be lost over this but it's something that the world has to grab a hold of and fix this problem because up till now thousands of people have been tortured

killed and maimed by these fuckers and it's got to come to an end and this is this is a ranch chance to be free same as Alberta's chance if I could grab a hold of their reins and steer it in a right direction So no, not not to, but the human cost of this is not a joking matter.

It's ugly. It's horrific. And please, as Christians out there say a prayer for these people, because they have children that they got to care for and protect and put to sleep in night. So let's be mindful of that. Yep. Gentlemen, thanks for doing this. Love you guys. See, boys.