Shaun Newman Podcast - #1035 - Susan Standfield

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Susan Standfield is an author, photographer, designer, and television producer. A mother of two with a BA from Queen’s University, she has lived and worked across Africa and now resides near Manchester, UK, where she runs SBS Television “Worth Watching.” In April 2020, she launched the “No More Lockdowns” protest marches in Vancouver, starting at City Hall on Easter Sunday, and designed merchandise to support families impacted by pandemic policies. She documented her experiences in the 2021 memoir Betrayed and continues advocating for justice, medical freedom, and personal leadership through writing, content creation, and public speaking.Watch the Cornerstone Forum 26’https://shaunnewmanpodcast.substack.com/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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appreciate all of you. Now, let's get on to that tale of the tape. Today's guest is an author, photographer, designer, and television producer. She runs SBS television, and back in 2020, she launched the No More lockdowns protest marches in Vancouver. I'm talking about Susan Stanfield. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today, joined by Susan Stanfield. Ma'am, thanks for coming back on. Yeah, this is awesome. Thank you. for having me. It's so great coming in from England here. Rainy England. Well, if you want to get

Susan's full story, I would suggest you go way, way back in the time machine in the Sean Newman podcast, back to episode 301. I think this will be episode 135. If memory serves me, correct, forgive me, folks, I can't remember off the top of my head. Regardless, it's been a while. You have since left Canada. At the time I interviewed you left Canada, how is Susan doing? And, uh, Well, bring us up to speed. Okay. Well, one of the reasons why I came here was to open my television company, SBS, TV, and I'm behind on that. It hasn't been as easy because I don't live in the right part of the country.

We had a family death, no surprise, like many of us. And so we have stayed up in a part of the country that's more rural and not near London, which is where I was hoping to be a couple years ago to move down. But that's fine. Other than that, everything's fine. I'm raising two kids. I'm in a very fierce, old fashioned rural part of the country. Like people like the Irish farmers, that's who's surrounding me.

So it's safe. It's wonderful. It rains a lot. And we're able to go over to Europe. So I've been to Germany. We're heading to Paris. So it's a great life. It's a wonderful culture to be a freedom-minded family in because most people are like that here.

And the Brits don't buy into any of the stuff. They've been fighting it for a thousand years. So everybody's awake here. You know, of all the countries, I was thinking of this morning, you know, you leave Canada and, you know, there's lots of expats or people discussing. I assume you know we have a liberal majority government this week. So that's fun. And I went, how many more Canadians are going to leave?

And I didn't ask the question where they're going to leave to. But Susan, I would suggest they're not going to leave to the UK. I would say that's on the bottom of their list. Why did you pick the UK? Well, it shouldn't actually be on the bottom. I've lived here before. We were coming here anyway to set up my TV company. My husband and my children are British.

So we are also an African family, and my husband does business in Africa. So it's kind of, it's a better location. It's the same time zone as Cape Town, basically. And I love England. My son was born here. It's easy. It's cheaper than Canada. People don't understand that.

Maybe not buying a fancy apartment, But the food generally is like a third to a half the price. It's 80 million of us. And the country is basically the size of Vancouver Island. So it's a very good place to create wealth because of that. And everything is federal. Everything is national. So all the things that get in the way of, you know,

things that Carnage says he's trying to fix and stuff that get in the way of broad-based wealth in Canada, a lot of those things aren't obstacles here. And I've known that because I've lived all over the world and I've lived here before. So we came here to create the family wealth and to set up my TV company. I love London. I'm in London a lot. Like I said, we also came to spend time with the British family. Not as much time, but then the grandfather suddenly died because of, you know what.

And so we thought, well, we better stay for a few more years and take care of grandma. So it's been wonderful. But I would say it's definitely put it on the list. And also because it's close to warm countries. Don't come here for the weather, but the proximity to 37 European countries, it's amazing. I went to Germany for 50 bucks. Yeah, I guess the stories we see over here is all the people being arrested for, you know, social media posts. And, you know, like if you follow, you know, not that I've listened to an episode lately.

Well, that's not true. I did listen to a Tucker episode not that long ago, right? He's been over there and he points out all the things going awry in. in the UK, would you disagree with all that? I mean, like, it's funny because your boots on the ground in the UK. Well, yes and no. Like, I think it's the nature of reporting from a foreign country. It's easy to kind of blow it up because you only see the intensity when you're reporting from online.

I know Tucker has come here. But there's also just regular day-to-day great stuff that's going on. And you have to add that into the reporting. It's not some extreme situation over here. by any far, by any means. But my theory and the things that I subscribe to and I've stuck to them for six years is all of this stuff is going to all of the Western countries. So whatever we see in one country will be going to another or vice versa.

So we don't have that arresting over the Twitter and social media anymore. They ran it as a test here and they stopped it about three months ago. Then they moved it to Canada. It's starting in Canada now. That's what Carnage is talking about. The censorship of the social media. social media. So I subscribe to the theory that it doesn't really matter. All of the jackboots and the tyranny is going everywhere in the Western countries. Pick the place where you love being,

where you're happy, where you really want to be and fight there and make a home there. It's easy to think things will be better when you leave, but they're not necessarily. I was already planning to leave. Do you know what I mean? We just left faster because I'd been arrested. So it's the same everywhere. And I see extreme things on Canada that about Canada that maybe a lot of Canadians would say, oh, that's ridiculous. That's not really happening in their neighborhood. That's a lovely point. Pick the spot you love being and then just stand up there. Yeah, and mine is as close to the south of France as possible because that's my final destination on this journey. We have specific things like our mass migration is Muslim heavy, whereas in Canada,

it's Hindu heavy because they're bringing in the Indians and they're Hindu. So there's vernacular differences for sure, right? And it's not, I would encourage Canadians. And the thing is, you know what's really interesting? If you're, you can, you probably have to be a resident here, but I am allowed to vote as a Canadian. So I'm not a citizen. I have a 10-year visa, but I am allowed to vote and I'm allowed to run for office as a

Canadian in England, in Britain. I can be a British member of parliament by only being a Canadian and being a resident here. I think you have to be a resident. And that's because we are all governed under the king. And so anybody who's governed under the king can vote for the parliament of the king's parliament, which is here. Do you know what I mean? Like since we are governed by crown law in Canada, it gives Canadians the right to actually cast a vote here. That is wild.

And run reform, which is one of the new parties. they phoned the other day and asked me to run for office. And I was like, am I allowed to? And she said, yes. So are you running? Well, I will, I, I, candidacy really isn't my thing. I'm a background person. I like raising money and mobilizing. But if I was forced, if it was the right thing, I would do it. But I would run for restore, which is what my book is about. It's the new party that came out of nowhere that nobody saw. And that's what I'm trying to get Canadians to see is this can happen at any moment. This new party is the most popular party in the history of the country and it's only been a party for about six weeks.

Oh, okay. Wait a second. Do I go there? Okay, we're going to pin that. I know everybody's interested. I'm interested. We're going to pin it for just for a second because I'm like Ireland. Yes. Can you like it's not like you're sitting in Ireland, but at the same token, you're a heck of a lot closer than I am. What can you tell us about Ireland? Okay, well, again, all of these things are reflective of the culture and the country. And so Canada has some of the biggest constraints to freedom possible. Purely for a few reasons, one is our massive geographical size and our small population. It's really hard to mobilize a national freedom movement in the country, the size of Canada.

So Ireland is one-tenth the size of British Columbia, and it has five million people. and they have never been a colonizer. They were always the indigenous, right? So it has all these things going in its favor. It's very easy for a broad-based national movement to blow up in a country like England because they don't have to drive 5,000 kilometers to protest, right? They're just down the road. Everybody's just down the road.

But it was primarily the fuel tax. So in order to get the fuel out of the North Sea, which is our main deposit, and to the pump, so in the petrol stations in Ireland, that costs about one euro, that whole supply chain cost per liter or per gallon, whatever they're measuring it. Let's say, I buy diesel and I buy, what do I buy a gallon? Anyway, I can't remember. So the physical cost with the profit and the petrol stations and everybody is one euro. The government is adding on another one euro 20 cents. So the Irish pay $220 at the pump or the farmers, but $120 of that.

So more than 50% of it is tax from the government. And they just finally blew up. And someone, four of them, the main leaders just said, no, now is the time. Very much like the moment of the Freedom Convoy. And it was like a Tinderbox. And every single person in the country, just like in Canada almost, they've been talking about this for years, how misdemeanor, miserable and oppressed and how they're being robbed blind by the European Union, which Ireland

falls under. It is governed by the European Union in Brussels. So Britain left the EU, Brexit. Ireland didn't leave. So they have it worse, but the fighting spirit is the Irish. There's almost nobody fiercer than the Irish. And I would say maybe the Danes and the Scots and some of these old indigenous peoples who have been fighting, like I said, for a thousand years. You know, the English tried to colonize the irish they've already done this once so it's amazing and i can ask i can answer more questions about that i prepared some notes to tell you about what's going on in ireland but you tell me how much info you want well you know it's funny like i woke up this morning like this is where you're going to correct me because yesterday i thought uh what what i was seeing on

x was that the vote of no confidence was defeated meaning it didn't go through i think i saw a vote of I don't know. I forget the numbers off the top of my head, but that it was defeated so there wasn't a no confidence vote on the government. And then I woke up this morning going, I wonder where that left it. And I couldn't find anything on X. Like I was trying my best to just see if it's still going on.

And it's like this, I don't know, void. It didn't seem like there was anything popping up. Oh, no, I'll tell you what's going on now. So the no confidence vote that Sinn Féin, which was, you know, Northern Ireland, Sinn Féin, they instigated, I believed, I believe. And so they managed to get through it because they have offered, and whether they're going to do this or not,

a major package for the diesel industry. And that's what it is. It's a regulatory body. It's a quasi-private, like Health Canada or CIFA, they have the sort of quango body that makes all of the rules. and that's what the people are protesting against in that office. They're protesting those policies. And so a package has been offered.

And I can get you the details on that more. But I was told it was 500 million or 500 billion euros. I can't even remember these numbers are so high. So I guess the Irish are being told to calm down and wait. But the protests aren't slowing down. They went out today is day eight. So it started last Wednesday. And they went out this morning.

They started with, do you know what slurry is? Do we call it slurry in Canada? So this is the waste off the farm. And they spray it on some of the crop sometimes as fertilizer. It's exquisite. Yeah, it's exquisite. So they've taken massive loads of what they call slurry into the towns. And they're spraying it everywhere.

So the farmers are just going to keep going until they get exactly what they want. and the refinery down in cork, which is the southern tip on the Celtic Sea, that they're protesting outside of to stop, you know, to block the shipment of the fuel because that's where the pain comes in. It's actually owned by the Irving family of New Brunswick. Of course it is. Yeah, right? Of course it is. And one of the main army people that's sending out the jackboots, she's Canadian too. The slurry thing's interesting to me, because I remember when we were going to Ottawa. I was talking to

an older gentleman, I'll say. And he was telling me about the stories of when Pierre Sr. or Pierre, or Trudeau, sorry, was in. And some of the things farmers did back then. And the one that stuck out to me was he stayed at a hotel in, I assume Regina, but Saskatchewan, regardless. And they backed up a full load of grain and dumped it in his lobby at the hotel. And I'm like, where did that

Canadian go? Right. Like, what, what, How do we lose that? Because I'm like, holy crap, that would have been a headline as he tries to come down the elevator. And there's a full load of grain there. Them going along and blowing, pardon the French folks, but shit everywhere. I think coming from a farming background, I know exactly what that is. And I guess I just sitting here, I don't hear, you know, like, we're so far removed from it. At least I'm trying to find information out about it.

And I was following some accounts. And then I'm like, can't even find the accounts right now. like what the heck is going on? It's interesting to hear that it is still going on and they're waiting for the government to move, which it sounds like they're going to. It's just whether they decide today or five days from now. Well, and so some other things have happened. And in the meantime, if you or anybody wants to watch, get onto my page because I'm sharing

hundreds of posts a day from all of the people. On X, Susan? No, on my Facebook. Facebook. Where can people go? Where can people go to find you? Okay. So it's Susan.

You'll see my photo and the page is actually a business page. It's called SBS television night. I don't know what you would have to search, but if you look for it now, you'll see it. And I just put a little caption and then some sort of a share. I put up, I must have put up 50 the other night because I just want the Canadians to have these. So a couple of other things that have happened is the Minister of Agriculture has resigned. And so that was good. So he resigned yesterday and to your point of where did that Canadian go, you know, where did this fierce, irreverent personality go in terms of telling the government that we're the boss.

That's really what's needed. That's what's missing. That's what my book is about. That's what's missing in the Canadian culture. We say things like, oh, you shouldn't do that. That's rude. That's impolite. And you hear Carney even saying that to journalists.

He always says this to Rosemary Barton, like, oh, come on, Rosemary, look inside your heart or whatever. He kind of scolds her and shames her for trying to have an honest, transparent. discussion and you can never stop anybody here from that it's the most honest place so and england and ireland i would put the same so the other things that have happened is another member of parliament that i would call him peter his name is pdr toybin but i think it's probably the irish way of saying peter so they have a bicameral parliament like we do a lower house and an upper house and then there's a president so peter who's with the a on to party which is an acronym that's why i'm saying we need

new parties. He's sitting as a smaller party member inside like block or what would be another party. Well, not green, but you know what I mean? Some other fringe party that's NDP or whatever that's in our legislature. And he is extremely vocal now. So definitely follow him. And he's just ripping shreds off the government because he is not in the majority party, obviously. And this is where this is the moment where we start to see the leaders, right? And this is why PRR. Pahliav is screwing it up because he doesn't have what it takes to be a leader, a real leader of the Canadian spirit going forward in the next 10 or 20 years because he won't do this. He won't risk it all. And so these huge chasms of conflict and social conflict and protests and movement is where the

new best leaders emerge. This is where we find them and that's why I'm documenting all of this. Okay. And then the other thing is there's another fellow you can follow named James Gieogen and there's I'm probably not parsing it, but he was one of the original leaders, one of the original farmers that came out, and they've literally said, we cannot afford to drive the tractors home.

So they're not going home because we can't afford the diesel to get them back to the farms. And you know, the Irish, probably a little bit like many of us do in Canada. It's just complete, honest, decent, kind of moral character that they're dealing with over there. And it's catching on like fire, like the kids, the women, everybody's out.

And they're so proud, just like the trucker moment, they're so proud that they have this moment. They could have started complaining a month ago or six months ago or whatever, but it takes that person. It takes that ignition to get it going. Yeah, well, I know a lot of Canadians are saying it sure resembles the freedom convoy, right? And I'm like, well, any time you get a mass of population standing up against government,

maybe you'll have your thoughts, Susan, but I would say it's going to resemble the freedom convoy. Not to mention all the big rigs and the tractors and the blue-collar spirit, if you would, which is, you know, like the Irish or, you know, we're all saying, I want to want to try with the Irish, right? Like, I mean, they've got a proud history. But anytime you get a group of people standing up against government,

it's going to resemble what the freedom convoy was, especially when it's done with nonviolence or non-compliance. Well, one of the fellows said the most important thing, I think. So I think it might have been James. And, you know, these old farmers, right, they're in their 60s or 70s, and they're tough as shit. And they laugh when the police come out. They're like, oh, look, oh, here come the police. Here comes the guard up.

They start laughing and pointing at them because their lives are real and hard. And they fight every day to survive and to feed people. And they look at like the police and the politicians as wimps. That's how they perceive them. They don't see, see them as living real hard lives where you get your fingernails dirty, right? And so he said, oh, they're going to bring out the army. I think Ezra might have asked him that question because Ezra's reporting here.

And he goes, oh, they're going to bring out the army. And he goes, we got a bigger army. And that's what Canadians have to really dig into is we have bigger trucks. We have more trucks. There's more of us. and it can work in Ireland because physically the country is so small. Like they've shut down everything. It would be very hard for us to shut down everything in Canada.

I mean, there's two major coastal highways, you know, coast to coast highways, but you know what I mean? It's a small place, one-tenth of the size of British Columbia. Yeah, I get what you're meaning when you're talking about, you know, how tight everything is. Even mobilizing people would be way easier, you know, like sitting here in Alberta, Eminton's two hours away. I mean, Calgary's five hours away. It's not that you can't mobilize everyone. It's just there's a distance to be crossed. And certainly we all know the Freedom

Convoy traveled a long way to go to Ottawa. That's what made it so spectacular. I know. I know. And cinematic. It's probably five hours from the top of Ireland to the bottom and three hours east to west. It's an island, right? So, so. Just on Ireland, before we go to restore, well, everything about your book and everything you're seeing happening in Britain, because I do want to get to that. Like, is this, where we sit today, Susan, you're like, oh, no, the protests are continuing on. Is there anything else Canadians should be paying attention to? Yes. Yes, lots.

And I can tell you. So my theory, what I'm doing with this book, and I think it's the correct thing, because this is how successes are always, not always, but. a lot of the time they're done is through copycatting, right? Whether it's business or popularity, whatever. If something's really working, you copy it, right? Whether it's an idea or a business or, you know, best chocolate chip cookie, you get the recipe, you copy it. And so everything that's happening over here,

Canadians should be watching carefully and figuring out how to literally copycat it and adapt it for our country. And some of the adaptations are small or big, whatever, but we have the same parliamentary system. It's literally we are the child of Britain. Canada. It's exactly the same system. It works the same. The laws work the same. So it's like photocopying the movement. We can literally photocopy it, transferred on to Canada. But I think the

most important, and I've planned this, I did some planning to speak to, because it's going in my book, is that for six years that I've been doing this, and I lived in Africa for a long time, so I was in Canada. But I started getting into this around 2008 because David Ebbie threatened this for me into prison for not giving him my kids vaccine records. And I was like, what? You know, I grew up in the 70s. And so I've thought about what are the bigger picture kind of esoterical ideas? Because governance and justice and all that, it's just an idea, right?

And we live by these ideas. We live by the ideas that we agree to and we tell ourselves. And it's hilarious in a way because we go like, oh, we're not allowed to do that. We self-governed based on this idea, even though it's against our better interest. And the most important thing, and that's what's happening here, is for Canadians to understand that we don't need the old government system. It's not working. And it's not enough to go, it's broken and it's not working. We have to fix it.

No, we don't have to fix it. It's useless. It's useless. And these people are losers who are using it. So I'm trying to get people to see disrupting governance in the same way the private sector is. So if you, like in the, like remember the, the dial, you're probably not young. Old. Yeah, yeah, you know, my age, I'm 58. We, I grew up with a dial rotary phone in the home. I remember. I, whoa, whoa, whoa. I grew up on the farm. I had yes, we had that. And we had the, yes, I grew up with all the phones.

You had the rotary phone. Okay. So can you imagine if we were forced to still use rotary phones because that, That was what we decided had to be the phone. I think it's funny that I'm proud that I grew up in a time of the rotary phone. I'm like, why am I so, wait a second, I should be saying, yeah, I don't remember any of that, but I do. Anyways. Yeah, can you imagine if we stayed there until now? Well, our government is like a rotary phone that's plugged into the wall and we're using

landlines. We are literally still agreeing and choosing to be governed by a system that does not work. it hasn't worked for decades. But you think over to the private sector and how other ways you run your life. You ditch that rotary phone in a second. You're on the mobile and where now people are like scanning chips into their skin.

My mother out on the farm finally got rid of their landline. Like this is in the last year. She just finally is like, I don't even know why I have this anymore because the only people who call it are telemarketers, right? That's it. That's exactly how Canadians need to realize, that that's where we are with crown law and the westminster system that governs canada it's useless it's useless for us it's useless for the people and and don't even go i'll get in there

and i'll get elected and buy elections and all this know what it is a stupid useless system and so like your grandmother just said what is the why do i even have this i never use it it's broken we need to build a completely new system and then the final destination in mind mind and this is what my book has is one of the last chapters is then we have to become as a nation and a society we have to become a republic we have to get out of the westminster and crown law system and most people are like oh my god really i don't think i have enough fight in me you know i'm going to be dead before that happens but it's like planning it's like any kind of a goal you want to make a million dollars or you want to lose 100 pounds or where it is you want to record a thousand episodes you got to start

somewhere. Yeah, and you have to have the right plan or building a house. So my book I'm referring to as a blueprint. You don't just start buying tiles for the second floor bathroom if you're going to build a house. You go to an architect and you get a blueprint and then you figure out how much it's going to cost you. And then by the end of a couple of years, you have a house that was built with integrity. And that's what we have to do with our government because the current system, it works for the elites. It's their system. But it doesn't work for us anymore. And the more of us that just get out of the system and start building literally a new form of governance. I'll give you one more example.

So, you know, Uber, obviously, everybody knows Uber. It seems odd. Like 20 years ago, nobody knew what Uber was. And everyone's like, oh, we just have to know. We have to use the taxis. That's the way it is. And we all understood the taxi system all over the world. Well, it took Uber a few years to fight the regulatory policy of British Columbia.

so they would be allowed lawfully to operate as a business, as a sector, because it didn't exist before. What do you mean there's strangers driving the cars and you do it all in your phones? And now Uber is commonplace and global, and that is the brilliance of disruptive startups. So that's how we have to start thinking with governance is disruptive startup governance. And that's what's happening in England and Britain and the leader is Rupert Lowe. And that's what he's doing. He's rebuilding the system and he doesn't care about the old system. And people are like, this is brilliant.

This is exciting. He doesn't use some of the language that I use, say, but it's time. And I don't know if Canadians are going to be able to pull it off because it's a big, hard, moral fight where we have to all come together like the Irish are doing. But at some point, we're going to want to do it over the next 10 or 20 years. At some point, we're going to have to get rid of that system. Well, I can tell you, Albertans are trying, right? Albertans are certainly, with the petition being signed, you know, we're going to wait and see what happens here over the next probably couple months.

I'm going to assume maybe it's less than that with the courts trying to pause it, or I should say First Nations trying to pause it and everything else. But, you know, certainly here in Alberta, there is a growing conversation that's happening around the water cooler. You know, you go back to talking about the Irish and that they've been talking about this for a while. Well, this conversation's been going on for a while. And then, you know, the first, you know, Mitch Sylvester doing the petition and then them getting past the signatures required, you go, well, the next thing coming, if everything's allowed to play out is going to be a referendum on October 19th. And certainly in Alberta, there is a spirit to get things done. Yeah. And the reality is in Canada, it's going to be a big, big fight because it's the cash cow.

for the globalists. And Ireland, for say, isn't so much, right? It's small. The resources and all of that. But Canada, that's why carnage was installed. You know, that is, that's the bankers, Costco. If I remember, you know, I used to be fascinated with Rome, I got my degree in history back when I was in college.

And one of the things that I admired back then, then I didn't realize, you know, fast forwarding to now, how much it would kind of correlate. but I remember the Romans, any little uprising. I mean minuscule. They went in with the full force of the empire and put it down and made an example of it. Because as you're pointing out with copycatting, or as Martin Armstrong would say,

you know, this isn't happening just in Alberta or take your pick, Ireland. It's all over the world that people are upset. There's discontent everywhere. And if it's allowed to happen in one spot, it will spread. It just will. And so, although Ireland isn't the cash cow, if it's allowed to work there, you bet your bottom dollar, people are going to pay attention and copycat it.

And it will spread. And if it starts to spread, there's going to be no stopping it. Exactly. And that's why it's so important for people to connect with different people in different countries. Like sometimes people, the haters, give me shit for leaving the country. I'm like, do you know, I'm so much more valuable outside the country. Trust me, there's two million of us who live outside Canada and we can all help Canada at this point. Well, the other example that you might want to look into and even maybe do an interview with her, in 2021, in September, there was COP 26, the environmental racket thing.

So Mia Motley is the president or prime minister of Barbados. And I was in right near Edinburgh listening to the speech and COP happened in Glasgow. It was in Glasgow. And I'm right near Scotland. So we're all watching Mia Motley's speech. And she just rips a strip up and down off the bankers about COVID and how they just photocopied and stole all this money for COVID. And they're a bunch of criminals. That's what her speech was literally. She started off sort of nice about the green and the rising tide and the Polynesian Islands who were suffering. And then she went into this.

Oh, and the bankers are a bunch of liars and they stole all our money during COVID. And I was like, that's pretty historic. I didn't know who she was. She goes back to Barbados from Scotland and she holds a petition. and Barbados leaves Crown Law and becomes a republic. Like they did it by Christmas. Again, possible because it's such a small country. So the king has said, and this is something to listen to,

the king has said repeatedly and even William, the next king, they will never block a nation who lives under Crown Law with the monarchy as head of state if they want to become independent. They won't. And they don't have any moral basis for trying to stop us. they're smart. They know that. They can't say, no, you're still going to be a colony. The problem with Alberta is it's not Canada becoming a republic. It's just like this one piece of Canada. And so everyone's kind of confused. And I'm like, okay, how's that going to work?

What's going to go on with BC? But they allowed Barbados to exit immediately and become a republic because it's built into the laws of crown governance. If a nation, like with Kosovo is the perfect example, right? As soon as Kosovo was made, you know, becoming an independent state, all the other countries in the world endorsed it. So that's a big, that's a long, big hall for Canadians to petition to remove Crown law and become a republic. But that is the final pit stop. You know what I mean? That's where we need to be pointing our trucks. You know, you're, you don't know this, but I leave July 5th and I'm leaving for a year and taking the podcast on the road and we're going to go interview people all over the place right and I might end up in your territory it's still in the works

lots of people are like don't go to the UK because they see all the all the things I'm like that's exactly why I want to go to the UK because I just I don't believe all the fear porn I just I do not I you know and I want to interview people in person but you're reminding me one of the things that I'd set out you know go find the good news and bring at home because like barbadoes i remember hearing that story and then i forgot all about it and you mentioned you mentioned that in the uk that it stopped three months ago and you were talking about the arrests on social media i think correct yeah they stopped it and they put it in the press and they said we're not going to do it anymore because it's not lawful and nobody likes it it was

it forgive forgive me maybe my audience will will text me it's like as much as the reporting was done on how bad it is in the UK and everybody's getting arrested. Did anybody mass spread the UK one and it's no longer there? Does that message actually get through? No. And I see old things about the UK all the time. I also see old things about Canada. You know, we tend to go, especially in the doom scrolling, we tend to like, oh, this is terrible, this is terrible. But what we really all need to do is just get more organized. And I kind of map out and plot all of this. And my Facebook page is the depot center it's the reserve bank of all of this stuff i just keep putting it on my facebook page um the other reason why you need to come here is so england the kingdom and the city of london this is the head office

of the of the global banking fraud this is you know this is the headquarters so we have some of it easier because this is one of the main places the globalists operate and they don't want it to completely fall apart. You know what I mean? Like don't shit in your own backyard, you know, that expression. So you have to do interviews and stuff here because this is where it's all based. This is where it's all coming from. And Russell. Paris. Susan giving me the sales pitch to bring the Sean Newman podcast to the UK. I tell you what? Bloody good. That would be interesting, wouldn't it? I tell you what, we'll stay in touch and I'll see

if I can pull that off. Now, I've danced around it for over half an hour. You got a new book, Restore Canada. Walk me through this because I've been, I didn't mean to dance around it for 30 minutes. There's just so much to get to. And then of course you start saying things. I'm like, well, that's an interesting thought. And walk me through your book. Walk me through this idea because I look at Canada and I go, I don't know if there's any saving it.

But you're about to give me a different idea. And I'm curious about it. For sure. And you know, it took Cambodia 40 years to come out of the Toronto. that it went through. This isn't a sprint. These are long marathon. It's not snap your fingers and things are fixed tomorrow. No. And like Spain was occupied by the Muslims for 900 years. So, but just because there isn't like a quick fix for us as Canadians, by no means should we not start doing the small things and planting the seeds. It's like if you want a big tree in your backyard and it takes 40 or 50

years, you've got to plant the day you got to plant it. So it's called Restore Canada. And it's a play on the Restore Britain movement, which became a political party. So it was just a movement for a while because a member of parliament who sat in the Reform Party got booted out. And they went to his farm and they took his guns and they slandered him in the media. Like a freedom political party threw out one of the most important voices. And he said, fine. And he just operated on his own. Like what happened to Derek Sloan or who else, say Dallas Brody, you know, the lone voice and the

legislature and whatever. So he is a sitting member of Parliament and his riding, interestingly enough, it's near me, is part of the old Hansa League. And if you don't know the Hansa League, I'll tell you more you've got to do podcasts about that. It's a 900-year-old trading and military guild that operated in Northern Europe. And I learned about it when I went to go see Reiner. This is where Reiner comes from. It's Hansa territory. These are some of the most free people in the world. And Rupert Lowe's riding in england was a part of that guild so it was a northern europe east coast of britain trading and they had an army for 900 years and they were called the hansa and so that's his writing if if i made it to your area yeah is there somebody you could put me in touch with to have an interview on

it absolutely i'll try my friend is one of rupert low's PR comms guys and if you want to write his name down it's Lewis Breckpool and he was doing what you do he had a podcast and before that I don't know what he did what he was in some other industry so Lewis is one of his main guys now and all the podcasts happening all over the country but we can definitely yeah hook you up absolutely for sure and the riding you could go to is the sample riding for the new model it's called great yarmouth so rupert's very smart he's a successful multi-millionaire businessman and he's he's literally building it the way you would build up a startup. He's testing it. He's building the model. He's raising a ton of money. And he's doing it slowly because he knows like I was just saying before, this is going to take time. But our next election is

2029. So the chapters in my book, I'll just read a few quickly, kind of form the basis of what is happening here and also mixed into my own theories because I've been doing this work for a long time. So it opens with dedication to the Irish farmers and the story of what's happening here right now. The book will be ready in about a month. Why the book is important right now, and that is this is the moment that Canadians can start copycadding, restore Britain, and start building, restore Canada. All this year, if we spent a whole year just building it in the garage,

you know, the way the tech bros, they build their new startups in their garage, that's what it is. We need to start building this in the garage. To speak around the idea that Canadians have to start thinking about disrupting the governance, There's no more waiting for these people. They're losers. You know what I mean? It's a terrible business model. It's the worst business model. And we deserve better and we can build something ourselves. So it's a startup kind of concept, right? Freedom startup, government. The main theory through the book is that freedoms are taken. Nobody gives us our freedoms. And that's a big thing for Canadians to think about because we're like, are we allowed to do that? You know, that's one of our first thoughts is, oh, are we allowed to do that? You can't think like that. and a lot of Canadians have changed. And we've outgrown our government. We're not the same people that we were six years ago.

The rest of the chapters are about the actual model of restore and what Rupert's doing. Women are playing a major role. There's a women's wing. And this is really important. And Britain is a matriarchal society. The women are very powerful here. There's a chapter about Barbados and how that worked and how we actually become a republic. Because there's certain legal steps we have to go through, right?

how to run a successful election campaign because we need to teach people how to do that, whether we're using the old system or our new system, and then there's a lot of links and historical references. So the book is going to be about, sorry, I just dropped it. It's going to be read on a phone, but if I printed it, it would be about this size. It's a guide. It's 56 pages. So if I do print any or people want to print copy, it's something that you could leave on the table and the kitchen table and start to study. It's a blueprint. Now, it's not perfect.

I'm not saying my ideas are the best and they're perfect. But these are the big, broad strokes of how to disrupt an old-fashioned, broken governance model that doesn't work anymore. From an emotional, psychological, moral standpoint, as well as sort of mechanics, legally, and financial. That's one of the big pieces is we need to raise $100 million. You know, we've been doing this out of our back pocket for six years. And it's one of the reasons why I haven't made as much progress. We need a lot of money. We need a war chest because that's what we're fighting.

I love, I really love the idea of disruptive. Everybody gets that, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's a simple, it's a simple concept. It's, you know, I did my forum in Calgary. And the idea was, the overarching idea for this year's was the importance of discussion. And without discussion, you can't envision a better future. essentially. And these discussions remind me that, right? A simple idea, what's lodged in my brain and I'm

like, oh man, I'm going to be thinking about this for a while, right? When you're looking at governance, it can seem so giant, right? And how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. How do you disrupt a machine? It's like, well, not overnight, as you're pointing out, but if you set the groundwork in motion, you know, it's pretty crazy how quickly a movement. movement can happen and how, you know, like when people are ready for change, how fast it can go on. Exactly right. It's the moment. You were mentioning Restore Britain how quickly it's growing. Can you walk me through? You mentioned that right up the hop. I should have stuck with that thought, but what's happening in Britain and restore Britain specifically?

Okay. So the name came along probably about nine to ten months ago. I believe when Rupert was kicked out of the Reform Party. So it was a sitting in. suddenly made independent without a party. And he's one of those interesting minds in British politics and history. Everybody was already watching Rupert going, who's this guy, right? And he's good looking and he's rich. And it's like, we're all kind of like, okay, done, good enough. He's our Churchill, right?

So he built it as a movement. And then at some point, probably in January or February, he decided it was going to be a party, but he didn't tell us. I happened to send an email saying, hey, I would love to be involved, and volunteer with the movement. And I got this email back about six weeks ago, said, well, you're going to have to join first. Join first. And then we will email you back. And I was like, join. Why do I have to join? And I thought, I wonder if this is becoming a party. It became a party the next day. And that was six weeks ago. So, you know, and then elections, Britain or whatever

it's called just gave them their final standing and approval about two weeks ago. You know, you have to go through the process and apply and all that. So the conservative party, I think is probably the oldest political party in the world. It's 182 years old. And they only have 120,000 members. And so Restore Britain already has 140,000 members. So within literally six to eight weeks, it has surpassed 182-year-old conservative party. Nobody wants the conservative party over here anymore.

They don't want the liberals. They don't want the conservative. They don't want the Greens. They want parties that are led by people like you and I who speak the truth and who have new ideas, new systems, new ideas, because they've completely lost faith in the old system. And that's why the disruption concept is powerful. Yeah, well, conservative, you know, like if you stare at this problem for, it doesn't take six years. It actually takes a very short period of time. And you start to look at the conservative in general in your own.

like, there's not much of a conservative, right? Like, overall, you get to where you're like, is it a uniparty? Because like they're, they're both similar. They're speaking from the same Mike essentially, right? Like they're not even, you go back to what a conservative is supposed to be. And I just don't see that anywhere in Canada. I'm, forgive me, Danielle Smith, right? She's, she's done a lot of great things for Alberta by standing up to a lot of the stupidity in Canada. But like, you go back to what a conservative is and what it should be doing and what it should be getting back to. And yeah, conservative just doesn't mean what, what, you know, on the on the surface, it sounds great. But the deeper you get into it, you're like, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

This is where the disruptive idea really makes sense to me, at least on this end. Yeah. And if you haven't interviewed her yet, the person who explains this really well is Liz Truss. and she was the prime minister for 40 days and they sabotaged her and she was the one that said we're going to start changing the financial and of a system and they completely sabotaged her overnight and how they did it is complicated and you can talk to her yourself but she'll do an interview with her her name's liz trust and so she's on the same road as rupert you know a whole new system and how she described it and rupert does as well and i don't know if the canadians are saying this

but these are sitting members of parliament who are saying this, that the government now, conservative, liberal, green, whatever, we all allowed to have differences, and we accept all that. But what is going on now in these Western governments is nothing short of full-on mafia organized crime. They are organized crime syndicates. And that's why everything's broken, because they're just stealing all the money.

It's not because the conservatives are, we need to vote for the conservatives and everything's going to be better. It's not going to be better. organized crime is in every legislature, in every province and state and country now. And they are the cartels. They represent the highest, most powerful, elite banking, cartel corporations, and they are in full control of all these governments. So that's why the fight is so big. You know, we are up against Goliaths and we can't necessarily fight.

I would never advocate for things being done unlawfully, but they fight dirty and we got to fight dirty back and we've got to outsmart them. And that's the human personality component that's really required. We have to find these leaders in Canada who are fierce, people who Carney is afraid of. He's not afraid of Pollyover. He runs circles around him. Well, and the other thing, you know, when you have Goliath or big, big, you know, you can, like Goliath, I always go back to, you know, David and Glemy and Eliath, right? Like, I guess that's where my brain turns to. But the thing about a big giant who's got, you know, endless, copious amounts of money and power and structure and everything is they can't

adapt to what's happening. Right. So small and nimble, you know, you stare at, well, we don't have the war chest, but you have a lot of other things that they, they can't possibly do and have. And one of the things that I've been noticing about a lot of different people is, you know, as the chains come off, they get to say what if the heck they want to say and our people are ready for it. Aren't they all they just, they just want to hear somebody say it the way it is. And that's what social media allows. You know, you're seeing all these different voices in Canada, but elsewhere, just being like, this makes zero sense. And why aren't they getting popular? Because they're actually saying it. Yeah. And what we have, we, we, we, we,

watch it. It's like a theatrical production, our political system. We watch it literally like we're watching a movie or theatrical and then we go, we turn off the TV and go back to our regular life. And it has in no way reflects what the politicians we're doing. There's a couple of other things. I don't know how our time is going, but a couple of other little interesting point. We have plenty of time. We give you. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I can say one more thing about the book. If people want to buy it, I can give the information, the links. It's on a pre-sale now. And I would be remiss if I didn't say you do have another book.

And now, of course, it's backwards. But regardless, it's sitting here, right? I went back. Yeah, so if people like my writing, they'll like this new book. But the new book is literally more like, you know, how to rebuild a political system for dummies. It's more of a toolkit handy book. That was an evidence bundle of all of the crime. But what I wanted to say was other than people buying it and enjoying it is like disruption

and startups and new, and it's really hard to change people's behavior, even if it's getting them to recycle. Like when the recycling came out, it took a long time to change people's behavior. I'm going to recycle that can rather than putting it in the garbage. That is our biggest effort is to change the habits and the thoughts and beliefs of the public, of the populace, of the body politic, how they interact with government. And so they need tools. They're willing.

They're willing to learn. They'll read anything if they think it's going to be better, give them a better life. If it's going to help them save money from giving it to the government. But they have to have simple systems. And that's why if I can create something that's the first of many, and maybe other people do is, okay, here it is. This is the blueprint that's working. And it's working in Ireland, some of the stuff I'm writing about because we've had

a major resignation. It's working. They chased, you got to watch this video. They chased the member of parliament down the street. I saw it. Oh, you saw that. Okay, he's the guy that resigned. Yeah.

And there is nothing that scares these people more than reputational damage, becoming irrelevant, becoming the hated, irrelevant loser that nobody cares about. And then also financial threat. If the cash stops for them, then they immediately leave the corrupt system because that's the only reason why they're there, some form of power, accolades, and money. Well, the other thing I would say on your book, right, is it can be a starting point for others to expand on your thoughts. You know, one of the things about a conversation entering, say, the podcast world, my podcast world, is it can actually spur on 10 or more conversations that I

would have never had because I would have never had the idea placed in front of me. And you don't know what your book can do to somebody in the UK or in Canada or elsewhere when they've been stewing on this problem for a bit. And they might have their own ability to take some of what you have and build on it. It's kind of like probably the, the, uh, the, uh, the great scientific works, right? Like when, when you're trying to solve a problem, you start putting out your thoughts. And then somebody else who's been thinking about the same thing goes, well, actually, I've been thinking it. And all of a sudden, you can, uh, get great minds together and solve these things and give hope. Like, I mean, this conversation, I always, it always shocks me. This goes back to

COVID times. Every time there'd be just a little glimpse of positivity on the podcast, because I don't try and have just negative, negative, negative or fear or bad things. I really want good things to be on. It's just, it's hard to find, you know, like it seems like these stories or people trying to really move the dial the opposite way or whichever way, I guess, are hard to find. And when they come across, I'm like, man, this is interesting. Because what you're talking about isn't in the next six months, folks, it all gets better. It's like, no, this has been a fight for a very long time. Go read any historical text and you can see the echoes of what we're going through, albeit different, you know, with all the tech we have today versus a thousand years ago. But they fought it back

then. There was people who stood up against it, you know, and there are lessons to be learned. And if you learn those lessons, you can push back against what is happening now. And it just takes time. It takes people motivated. And I think you would agree there is a ton of motivated people right now. For sure, like justice has never been more popular and possible than today and tomorrow. You know, and I've always seen it that way because since I started the protests, I've always been surrounded by 10, 20, 100,000 people who are seeking justice. I was never depressed, sat alone. I was always overwhelmed.

I was always too busy. I was always more optimistic because I saw so many people and so many people contact me. They still contact me and say thank you. But one of the things that happen, it's on my page, and I can go back and tag you, or you just spend some time on my page. One of the thing that's in the book that is not to be discounted, that's a very powerful moment and technical thing. Like, okay, it's in the book. Do this. Chapter 3. One of the first things the farmers, the leaders did, because there's sort of four of them, but now they're bigger, but they're still kind of looked on as the leaders a week later, is they have put forward four farmers. farmers to become members of parliament.

So they're not just protesting going, this isn't fair. They're like, okay, we've got four people. We want four people out. We're going to replace them with four farmers. If those four farmers became members of parliament in the next six months, that is real change. And so maybe you and I could do this just as a little game theory right now is, could you name five, three, five, six people that are known.

So they're not just, well, if they don't have to be known, but well-known people say like you and me, and we've been out there fighting for six years, who should we send to run our government? Who are our best governance? Who are the people who are going to let us be free and be responsible and give us the better future? Like discounting all of the Ottawa people and the parties

and what I call the losers. I'm talking about the real people. One guy is a guy named Kim de Bransky and I thought he was a woman because of the name Kim. And then I started looking at his pages and I was like, this is a leader. He's one of our leaders. He's like, no,

because the mainstream media won't ever listen to me. And I'm like, that's actually in the book. You have to be someone that the mainstream media will refuse to listen to. Check. Okay. He passes that test. So I don't know. Do you think of any others?

I mean, they could be names we know. They could be new names or whatever. I think I would put Timor Leach in that basket. But I don't know the whole history of everything that happened with all that. There seems to be so much controversy. Well, when it comes back to Canada, whether I'm looking at Alberta where there's 87 writings or Canada where there's what is it folks 300 and change I forget what the number is but 3.43 thank you I'm like my problem has always been even if you could think of four is that enough in a 87 riding group in a province is four enough to actually get your voice heard or do you need more of that? Yes, because that's just you. Well, that's just you and

your four. Right. I've got four. Someone else has got four. What the reason why I wanted to do the game thing with you is if we could like we could talk about Kim for example. Do you know who I'm talking about Kim Dobrowski? Okay, he's an incredible writer. That's why I started following him. He's from Alberta. I don't think he's Saskatchew. He is. Kim, Kim Debransky is from Alberta. Isn't that funny? Sit in I don't know who King de Bransky is. I'm going to have a whole bunch of people texts me going, Trot out and you know what this is. Okay.

Well, this is what I'm saying. I'm talking about people from the public. I'm not talking about people who are in office. I'm talking about brand new outsiders, the people who, if we were going to send people, if we were going to consent to be governed by a whole new batch of people, and I'm up for that. So, for example, Dallas Brody,

I will consent to be governed by her. I know I'm going to get a fair shake from her. I might not agree with everything she's saying. I mean, I think I mostly do agree with her. but I know that I will get a fair shake with a leader like her because she will speak the truth. So she's on my list. Kim, I would say he's on the list too because I can tell morally who he is and he will not back down and he's fierce. Okay, fine, he's got to learn about governance, but we're building a new system.

But don't you see like with this thought under, see, when you do restore it and it's like a brand new way of doing things, I look at that and I go, that makes sense to me. The problem with trying to infiltrate the old system that's sitting here right now. There's been a bunch of good candidates, the last federal election for the conservatives federally here in Canada, that the party would not allow to run. They just said no, right? You've got to get through the doors and the gatekeepers go, yeah, we're not letting that person in. Now, could a few get in? I'm sure they could. But I've interviewed a ton.

That's what I'm saying. Don't forget the old system. Forget the old parties. Say this, we're building something. Start a new party. So start a, oh, okay. So start restore here in Canada. And then go Dallas, Dallas, we'd like you to run.

And it could be a couple of parties. It could be a couple of new parties. It doesn't have to be just one, right? But the point of what I wanted to get across is that it is a profile of a certain type of person that we need. That's the hardest task we have. we find those people, then we're going to be able to accomplish this. And like I said, I would put Dallas Brody in that list. Maybe you have some others that you're thinking of. These are people who have shown us for six years what great character and bravery is. The bravest people are the

ones who we need to govern us, right? Curious. You were part of Ken for a long time. Do you think that type of person would sell out in the eastern part of Canada. Because when you go back in the history of parties being formed, the reform party did roughly that for the West. They brought a new idea and then they slowly realized, I don't know what they've realized. You know, I've had Preston Manning on here once upon a time. And they eventually got to a point where they were quite large. They had grown over the course of a decade to be a formidable opponent. Well, that's interesting. So why do you remember? Because I remember reform and Preston. Why didn't it keep growing? What happened? Well, I think what happened is they realized they couldn't

become the official government. And at some point, their idea changed to, we want to govern all of Canada instead of just speaking for the West. And so when they ran they ran candidates all over Canada, eventually they they consolidate back with the conservatives and the entire reform movement goes up and smoke right and then now you have the conservative party of Canada and you're talking about you know for the west could you run Dallas brodie could you run Tamara Leach could you run a bunch of others and have a new reform yes you could I think there's a ton of Canadians and when I say Canadians I actually probably should say Westerners that are done with that idea they They, they, that's why Alberta separatism, Alberta independence is on the top of people's minds.

They are done with Canada. They're just, you're tired of what the, the, the east says. And they look at it as two different cultures. There's just, it's this giant landmass and we're disconnected. And we no longer have the same beliefs as Eastern Canada. And I know there's a ton of people who listen to this show from Eastern Canada that have the same values as Western Canada. So to run a brand new part. party, it sounds like, you know, restore is reform and you go down the thought process.

It was Uber successful from everything I can see. You know, I wasn't paying attention to politics. So I just listened to what my elders say and then go back and read some things on. I'm like, this thing was Uber successful. Why did it fall apart? Well, also remember, too, that Canadians weren't as, it's a different society now, right? in 2026 what we've been through in the past six years reform was it started what 20 years ago or even longer than that right i think reform when did it start is it must have started 10 years before

i'm gonna look i'm gonna look it up because i'm i actually don't know the canada was so this goes back to the disruptor model startup new concept for a new society right the uber thing we were uber wouldn't have worked 30 years ago and 30 years from now it's It's just irrelevant. So timing is also a part of it. And that's what's in my book. 1987 to 2000. That's what it ran.

Yeah. So think how long, think of who were Canadians in 1987. Life was still really good in 1987. Well, they were coming off the heels of the first Trudeau. And so what I would say is to me that's a cycle. I would think that in my perspective, the cycle has happened all over again. where you probably could get a reform. Like that idea would hold weight.

They tried it with the Maverick Party, uh, not this past election, the election before. And, you know, if they'd stuck with it now, in fairness,

you know, Tamara Leach was on that board. Or maybe not on that board in that party. I shouldn't say on that board. I actually don't know what her position was, uh, off top of my head. But the Maverick party was a different version of the reform party.

It was the old reformers trying to ignite that. Well, it was designed to be a block. It was designed to be a Western block because I talked to Tamara about that, exactly like block Quebequa. But I think maybe a better model, and it's not a successful one, but a better, more accurate model is Max Bernier's PPC. That's the model. So he's done it nationally. He has had candidates in many of the 343 writing. He's not a leader that will work federally because of his Quebequanness, I believe.

Anyway, I'm a big fan of Max, but I don't think he's the right leader. And that is a big part of it. You have to have the right person. And so it may take us another 10 years to create the leader that will be this. But also, too, what I'm suggesting is that we change the government. It's not just, okay, we're going to go into Ottawa with the new party. I don't think any of that's going to work, like what Alberta is saying. We have to get out of crown law.

We have to become a republic. And if you look at some of the simpler, more successful societies who do manage governance, like regions of Italy and, you know, Amish society and stuff. And we're all governed. We're all part of governance in other ways. Like if you own an apartment, you're part of the stratic governance. You know, at school, you're on the governance of the parents. Or if you're in a private tennis club, you know, you pay your fees and you go to the board meeting.

We all know what good governance is. And we abide by it when we're governed lawful. So it's not like we don't know how to set up governance. You know, we're under governance every single day for other reasons that go well. What we really have to do is realize that the Westminster system, the House of Commons, that bloody green carpet or red carpet or the chair with a guy sitting at the end with the wig and everything, like the whole thing is done. And it's like the rotary phone.

It's like literally going, oh, it's the government. Let me get out my rotary phone. And so we're choosing to use a system that harms us. And the first thing we have to do is just turn away and walk away from that system and build a new system. So I guess there's two or three parts to this. We need the new fierce leaders. We do need organizing and mobilizing. But let's have three new parties.

It doesn't have to be one party. And then the final thing is we have to build a different type of government structure. Forget about Ottawa. Let's put the thing in Winnipeg or whatever. in the middle of the country and we have to become a republic so this is a five 10 20 year journey for canada barbadoes did it in two months so it is possible with the will of the people because the king will have to say yes if the will of the people of Canada is to exit crown law he has to say yes and he says this that's his job as the king it's if you understand british governance more you'll see the

job of the king and the monarch is to take care of the people he's they're supposed to be on our side against the government to make sure that we are protected from government. I wonder, you know, you bring up Barbados and even Ireland, right? And their size and how proximity. Martin Armstrong, I've had on the podcast a lot. And he's talked about Canada will no longer be a country. It's going to break up into several different spots, whether that's east and west. I have no idea.

He's talked about the United States, the similar thing. And then eventually, and I've always asked, like, so when? I don't know. I don't know when. You know, computer shows a big disruption between here in 2032. And I started listening that in 2020. And at the time, I thought, 2032, the heck is this guy talking about. But as these conversations continue to happen, one of the things, you know, that stands out to me is there is something about being close to your elected officials.

Ireland has that. Barbados definitely has that. Canada is not. We ship them all the way over to. Ottawa and off they go and they disappear and into this like fairyland that is not you know maybe a dark land there's a very important part same with bc the fact that the government's on Vancouver Island is a real problem because they're in their own ecosystem separated by an ocean people can't get to them and away from the population and you think well i don't know i just

you wonder you talk about winnipeg and in a in a in a in a grand world or a great world where things in common sense returns, Winnipeg makes sense because now, you know, everything is centralized to a midpoint of the country and you can, you know, just travel and everything else. Okay, that makes sense. I don't see the East ever going for that. Like, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe somebody here can tell me different. But what you're pointing out is when you have things that are localized, right? If Alberta became or Western Canada became, and all of a sudden the midpoint became the, the spot that, you know, and you had more interaction with your elected officials. I don't know. Yeah. No, and you're right.

And we don't know. And things will be different five years from now. And Canada is almost too big to govern, as Martin says, and I'm a big fan of Martins. What Ireland has also started talking about, and they've been sort of talking about it, but they're really talking about it now, is leaving the EU. And that's something that will drastically change everything. As soon as they get out of the EU, you know, how Orban was replaced by, Magyar, whatever's name is.

I wrote it down. Magyar. So now they can basically traffic all of the countries into the next war with Russia. But it's possible that Ireland will leave the EU. I mean, Barbados is the example. It's possible. Ireland has the same problem as Alberta.

They're being told things by Brussels. Yeah. What? You know, like the general idea, we're all going to be in this together, Kumbaya, whatever. But then you see all the, the ridiculous policies coming out of the EU and then being pushed.

You know, I go, but I just interviewed the two guys from Hungary. And they're talking about, you know, in order to get their frozen assets from the EU, they got agreed to 27 points. I'm sure some of them are like, you know, not that big a deal. But other ones are going to attack their culture specifically. And that's, you know, only going to be bad. You're getting governed by somebody who doesn't live in your country. And if you're Ireland, that makes no sense.

And Alberta here or elsewhere. It doesn't matter if it's Alberta. It could be Manitoba for all I care. Hello, Manitobans. It is, you're being governed and told how to run your area by somebody who doesn't interact with you at all. And it was only supposed to be a trading block originally. And that's why Britain left as well. It was really pitched to everybody 50 years ago as a trading block.

Sure. But the problem is like there's this big, physical ring fence around all of the 37 countries now. But the 37 countries operate their own fiscal policy, but then they're subjected to this big huge one circle law. Like the whole thing is just a disaster. Well, what do the globalists do? They find the way things work.

They infiltrate the way they work. Then they influence so that they have control over it. And they find all the pinch points and go, that's where we're going to go. Because now we can influence everything downstream of it. I don't know Brexit inside and out. But if I was sitting Britain, why do I want out of that? Because you're being told how to do things for your country from somewhere else. And it has ramifications for you specifically.

Here in Alberta, are we good or bad people? I would say on the majority, we are a solid group of human beings that just want to raise a family, work a job, do better. Do we want the environment to be clean and all the things? Yeah, I think overall that would, right? But then Ottawa comes in and there's like, now there's, it's just a growing number of things that make no sense. And at some point you go, this doesn't make any sense. So can you go and start a political party? I'm speaking specifically of Canada and the size of it and everything else.

Yes, you can. Well, I think the movement has to come first and that's what restored did. You know, it's been a movement growing for the last year. And the same with Ireland, the movement now, they may create some new parties now. Ireland. I haven't seen that yet, but maybe. But here's an idea and this gives me great hope is that one day, and maybe not too far off, Mark Carney will be gone. He won't be the prime minister. All of those ministers, champagne and the ones that were being forced to look at and the governor general and whatever and even that be, they all go eventually, right? Like they don't, many of them

in Canada, they don't stay for more than maybe 10 years. So even if we had Carney for another five, six years, whatever. He'll, he's going on to do other stuff. He'll be gone. And that's what they're talking about now in Ireland is that it's just time. Sometimes and even the politicians understand this, they maintain a system that they know really isn't in the benefit of the people, but they keep maintaining it because for them to change it as too much as well. They go to work and go, God, what a nightmare. Most of them know it's terrible. And then at some point, and this happened with Thatcher, uh, in the labor and the conservatives here, right, in the 70s. It was just time. It was just time to get the old system out. So the country could rebuild and grow. And that's where Canada is now. A different voice. Yeah. The breaking point. New parties, new type of government, whatever the structure is going to be, maybe five different countries like Martin says or Alberta separate. The time is now. And maybe not 2026, but over the next decade, right, it's here because of the problems being so bad. And I can't wait for carnage to get out of there and replace some.

I think he'll replace himself with Gregor Robertson. That's my bet. I know Gregor. He's an old friend of mine. Because Carnage doesn't want to stay and be the prime minister. He's there to accomplish a certain job as to rewrite all the laws and trick Donald Trump and rebuild the global system so he's screwed financially. But none of that stuff is actually going to work and last for more than a few years.

It's never, it's an unnatural scheme that it's like his G-Fand that has been falling apart, right? It's not really going to work long term and he will be gone. So I'm trying to give Canadians a sense of this is our country and our culture and our families and they've been there. My family's been in Canada for almost 200 years. We've got a bigger, longer story at play that we need to take care of. But it's time to start imagining it and building it, designing it now. And what progress we would make, say a couple of years from now, if we had a huge new movement happening in Canada, particularly with new leaders and ones that don't fight because the fighting hasn't hurt us you

probably agree with that right i mean it hasn't helped us all this infighting of all of the freedom fighters is really demoralized millions of canadians yeah i um i just go back to politicians nobody nobody talks to each other that way and so it's really odd to watch you know you go back to the the movie analogy you're watching it on screen you're like this is so strange This doesn't resemble anything in society at all. It's theater. It's theater. And they know it and we know it.

So let's just turn it. Let's just shut it down and turn the lights off and pull the plug. Like it's broken. It's not working. So that's what I wanted to share with you. And if anybody else is interested in the conversation around, okay, what is this movement? They should definitely be following Restore Britain as pages and websites.

So it's information all over online. or even come here, not just like yourself, but people can just come here for a week. Come for a long weekend, like get on the ground and hang out in some of these places because it's refresh. It's always refreshing to get out of a country where there's, you know, suffering going on. There's just as many good things happening as there are challenging things. That's my always been my theory. Susan, where can people go to buy your books?

Okay, my TV store, SBS Television. So it stands for Story by Susan. I've been using this for a long time, SBSTelevision.com. And they'll see all of my work and they can click through into my shop and buy stuff or just share my page would be great. And then everything is always on my Facebook page. There's 30,000 people there. There's about 400,000 people there a month. That's really the best place to connect or anything at all.

And I can point people in the direction of information they want here. So you, for example, people you could start setting up some interviews with over here in certain parts of the country. No, that sounds great. No, I appreciate you hopping on. Thank you. Yeah. When are you going to hit the road? July 5th.

And then we leave for a year. And so we've got all of Canada to get to. We just booked the ferry ticket to Newfoundland. So I'm going to be hopefully, you know, we'll see what happens across Canada, but I'm going to be interviewing some of the guests, such, you know, no different than yourself that have been on the podcast before, but I've never met in person. And we both know. it's a thousand times better if you do it in person.

So I'm hoping to do that across Canada to try and talk to Canadians and meet some of these people that I've got to know. And I assume, I assume, you know, I've had different conversations with different people. And I'll just give a shout out to Patrick because, you know, he lives in PEI. And I'm like, he's a, you know, he's a fisherman. I'm like, wait, can you introduce me to some like old, old fisherman that I can interview? And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm like, perfect. Like, that's, I don't know where the road trip takes me. But certainly the goal of it is to get across Canada, parts of the United States, and elsewhere.

And then interview people on the ground in person because for so much of my career, it's been sitting behind a desk like this and talking to people virtually. And I really, really want to not only see different parts of the country again, it's been, I was telling the wife, you know, Newfoundland. It's been 20 years since we biked. We biked across Canada when I was 20. And, you know, all of a sudden, time just goes by. And you're like, it's been 20 years since I've been there. I would love to go back. And I would love to meet some of the people and interview some people along the way.

And we'll see where it gets to. And, you know, the UK has come up. And you're just making a stronger case that maybe a guy should come spend some time there. And not only interview maybe yourself, but some others as well and see what others have to say. from different parts of the world. Yeah, and there's 75,000 Canadians or so that live in the United Kingdom. So you'll not only will you be welcome here,

but there's a lot going on between Canadians and for Canadians, business chambers. Our console is like one of the most valuable buildings in London. It sits on Trafalgar Square, the Canadian embassy. So I can help you with any kind of info like that. And if you go to Newfoundland, you got to, do you know who Dana Metcalf is? Are you connected to her?

Yep. Metter in Ottawa. Yeah, great. That's wonderful. Well, count me in. And like I said, if people want to find me, just go to my Facebook page. The first election of the new model for Restore over here is in May. There's a big protest plan for the middle of May.

And there's a women's event at number 10 Downing in the home office against mass migration on the 24th of April. So I always share all those things as well for the Canadians to see. and if anybody wants to come over. The events here are massive. You know, there could be half a million people at any one event. Yeah, which is pretty wild to think about. And, you know, just for my, for the audience and maybe somebody listening over there, you know, every once in while I check on the statistics of the podcast,

I'm always curious where people are listening from specifically. And you know the number third or number three country where I got listeners from is Ireland. Yeah, fantastic. That is odd to me. Are you, are you, are you Irish descent with a name like Sean? No, wow. From the area, but Wales, Scotland and England are the three. Okay, I got a great guy.

You got an interview in Wales. His name is Gareth, Gareth, Wynne Jones. He's a huge influence over here. He's a sheep farmer. He's a wealth sheep farmer. And he's one of the people I get most of my information about with Ireland, because they're all plugged into the same thing. And Wales has their own parliament.

Northern Ireland has a parliament and Scotland has a parliament and then England has a parliament but we're all under the one country per se. So you've got to connect with Gareth if you're coming over here and Wales is wild. It's also free just like Ireland. Well I look forward to it. Susan, thanks for hopping on and doing this. Yeah, and thank you. Have a wonderful day. Bye all the Canadians. Thanks for tuning in.