Shaun Newman Podcast - #1079 - Vesper

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

He lives in Quebec, is a brand designer and during the lockdowns started VesperDigital on X with the purpose of exposing the government and getting Justin Trudeau out of office. We discuss his research on Mark Carney and Brookfield. Cornerstone Forum 26’https://shaunnewmanpodcast.substack.com/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍

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So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Vesper. Vesper, great to have you back on, sir. Thanks, thank you for having me, Sean. Great to be back. Well, it's, I guess before we get into it all, how are things out on the east side of Canada?

How is Quebec? Quebec. Quebec, Quebec. Well, I mean, we no longer have the CAQ premier, Francois LeGo. And we have this new person that took over that's supposed to be of the same party, Frachette. and honestly it's the same policies nothing's really changed we Quebec is right now going through a and I could I could say a very slow burn from the party Quebecois starting to expose a lot of the corruption that's happening in the other

parties now I'm not saying party Quebecois doesn't have corruption we all know what they want they want to get out they're like alberta they want to get out of canada you know what i mean like we just we want to be ourselves they actually have a better argument than alberta because they never signed anything Quebec actually never signed anything and yet everybody didn't care and they just did it anyway and it became part of Canada now the thing is is that they're exposing the liberals i know that you probably noticed not too long ago um a liberal um a liberal um a liberal MP um had to resign because of the corruption in Quebec and the Liberal Party. They're going after the CAQ now also for corruption,

that there was a lot of pay for play, access happening within the party with a lot of the business investors. And I mean, the party gimmick was no saint. You know what I mean? Like they're going to do this too. Their objective, though, is more, I would say they are more focused. on getting out of Canada. That's like literally their MO.

While everyone else is just trying to get money, the Partiquebe is like, dude, let's just get out, and then we'll make the money. And that's the difference between the Parti Quebecois and every other party right now. That's politically. Economically, it's horrible. Everything is expensive.

I mean, I know this is Canada-wide, but Quebec, which was mostly known for like housing, you know, the cheapest housing in Canada. cheapest renting in Canada. There was a house that I wanted to buy that was like $500,000. It's not worth $1.4 million. And yeah, this is, I mean, I'm talking from 2020 to now,

but that's a totally different story. It's become, it's a place with low wages and the housing is horrible. See, at least in Ontario, wages are high and housing is expensive. But here, wages are low and they're not fixing it. And it makes it a bit hard. if you know what I'm talking about because at least with Daniel Smith for example right like

there's a there is an avenue for discussion with the federal government right whether they do it or not that's fine but in Quebec there is a clear friction which is weird right because the Laurentian elites are all from Quebec but there is this like friction between what people's motives and or ulterior motives are so for example the immigration issue. Yeah, well, Quebec doesn't want more immigrants, but the federal government wants more immigrants. And so it's like weird in that way that we're stuck between two very strong-willed ideologies. And yeah, the Liberal Party runs the show here. I'm not sure for how much long, to be honest with you. I hope that paints a picture. Now, on a personal level, I'm doing good, man.

God is blessing me. God is good. Christ has been guiding me through a phase in my life that I absolutely am scared and thrilled about all at the same time. You've been noticing that I've been recording longer form videos. And they've been going everywhere, dude. I had people on the street walk up to me. They're like, dude, you're that guy. I'm like, they're like, why don't you put more videos? I'm like, maybe it's because I don't want strangers to walk up to me on the street that I don't know. And yeah, people have been telling me like, hey, man, open a YouTube page, just drop the videos on. Don't do anything else.

We want to share these deep dives. And I think that's what today is all about. You had seen, you know, me. You've been a guest to the show for a very long time now, right? Like your insight to the other side of Canada, specifically Quebec. And I think highly of the work you do. But then I watched the tree video. and it's how to steal legally.

That's not, to me, it's just got the, anyway, it doesn't matter. It's got the tree on it. And I'm like, oh, this is interesting. Because I've been, I've been wondering about Brookfield and how to like break it down. And I've been searching for a way or some way of somebody who's, you know, put it in a concise way of this is what's actually going on. Yeah. And you did it. And I, and I trekkled.

And I'm like, when people are like, oh, I want to share, you need to do more of this. I'm like, well, isn't it time? And it feels like Canadians are just so hungry for true journalism, which is just like, break down what's going on. Everybody says there's all these conflicts of interest, but nobody actually does the work to find out why it's going on. Yeah, I completely agree. It's one of the gifts that I think I have. I'm able to extrapolate large sums of data. And I've been doing this in my career and finding a way to, it's a,

It's a gift that God gave me. I know how to simplify, get to the point. This is what you need to know. Cut past all the BS. This is it. This is it. This is it. This is it.

I don't need to go into massive, you know, those weirdos that tie like a ton of million lines to this. And by the time we're done, you're more confused than we'll be had started. And I think that's the appeal of doing eight to nine minute videos. Yeah, they're deep dives. But I talk in a way that's like, just follow me. Okay. And in a way.

I'm kind of like with you on this journey and saying this is where it starts. This is where it goes and this is how it is. And this is why this works. And people are just DMing me, Sean. Like we're talking hundreds of DMs a day now, not only thanking me, which humbles me to be honest with you, because I've, you know this. So I've always, to the people that don't know this, I work in the background to help a lot of other influencers. And I love all of the ones that I work with. And I support in every way whether it be through digital graphics or whatever and through my research and anything i find my whole objective was never to become known i mean i i want people to know me but i don't want to become like this sensational guy that just does nothing but youtube all the time i don't

know how you guys do it you guys have a very special talent for people like you shan and um while i am articulate i always looked at it like let's let me play in the back They already got a platform. Why don't I just plug into them, give them the stuff that they need, and you guys will do it. Like, what do I care? I'm not here for the glory. I want to help Canada. I genuinely want to just help Canada.

And I want everyone to know how the rules are changing where we are in terms of where the goalpost is. And so I don't only have my ex account, which I use to basically troll the living nightmares out of everybody that I know is messing around. But I like going to people like Sean and to people like Northern Perspective and some other people that I help that you may not know about. And I frankly like to keep it that way. I give them the data and I just recently had a conversation with MP Dean Allison and some MPs have been reaching out to me recently because I'm able to uncover or scrape the internet in a way that gets the data that they can't find. So now they're telling me just you do it. And I'm like, you know what? Yeah, maybe I should.

It just had Dean on. You know, like you go for people like you for the camera. I, if anybody's, well, I try and let the guest do all the things. I actually, I'm just a conduit to allow Vesper to get his thoughts out. That's all I am. I don't think many of us are here for, I don't know, be nice to make a full-time wage and do some things, but I don't know if I need to be in the old Joe Rogan seat where you can't walk down the street and have, you know, mobs of people. I've read the stories of people

like that, Besper, like that'd be, it'd be a tough life in a different, completely different universe, you know? Yeah. So regardless, when you come to Canada, though, right? Because you got Americans sitting here and listening to us going, okay, Canada is a different beast because, you know, we don't have all the fanfare that the Americans have, right? Like they have Hollywood and all the things. I mean, they had UFC literally on the front lawn of the White House, right? Yeah, that was awesome. Can you imagine if the UFC went to the front lawn of parliament here in Canada?

I think Canadians would, heads would explode because, you know, we probably would not want that. I shouldn't say we wouldn't want that. A whole group of Canadians wouldn't want that. Well, I mean, I would be honest. I'll be honest with you. I think if Pierre Paulyev was the PM, that would totally happen. You think it would happen? 100%.

I think it's because the liberals are in power right now that we're having basically the rainbow parade on the front lawn constantly and nothing else. And that was the same in America, by the way. It was the same under Biden. So, look, I mean, I'm not saying Pierre is like Trump at all. I mean, Trump is a completely different beat. He doesn't care. I'm actually shocked that he hasn't changed the name of the. the White House to the Trump House.

And come on, you know I'm right. You are right. So, you know, so look, I think Canada and to the Americans that are listening, I want you to know that I've lived, I would say, yeah, most of my adolescence in the U.S., particularly, which is really weird. I've lived between New York, New Jersey, all the way to Louisiana and Florida. And so I got family all across the states. And so I'm fortunate in that I have access to not only America,

but I also understand exactly how a republic and the people that are Republican in the United States feel about what's going on in their country. And I'm able to extrapolate that to hear. I am by citizenship Canadian. I don't have dual citizenship. Never really applied. but I spent most of my summers and some winters in the States. And I love Americans, man. I mean, some Americans are more lovable than others.

But in the most part, I would really enjoy living in America. Let's just put it that way. Like I said, most of my family is there. We're here because we came from a war at a time where we needed to just get out of a war. And that's why we're in Canada. You know, it's one of the things when they talk about the trade disputes. elbows up and all that stuff, Fesper,

they don't realize, they always go while our largest trading partners in the United States, which is obviously true. But the other thing that is, that kind of gets slid by or not talked about,

is how many of us have close relations just across the border and how many of us actually really respect the people of the United States, right? And that kind of gets washed away with.

Like we don't, that isn't there. That is absolutely there. Dude, it's crazy. I did, one post about something that was a deep dive on the United States foreign policy team with Trump and how it's coalescing with the Carney Liberals and China connection.

Dude, that day, I got 1,000 American followers on X. And by the way, just so everyone knows, like the kind of guy I am, I'm legit removing a thousand followers manually per month. I'm not looking to become 100,000 account. I took out 5,000, Sean, in like a month and a half. I got 6,000 back. Like, this happens consistently. And I can't tell how many are bots,

but a lot of Americans are DMing me now on my X account that you'll show later. And I think, yeah, man, the Democrats are definitely involved in Canada. I mean, we just recently saw Justin Trudeau with Obama, you know, the same Justin Trudeau that said we shouldn't go to the United States. And then he married, he's dating America, stays in America, roots for Team America. Roots for Team America. And then, you know, all this is happening. There's Canada 2020, which is a summit and a organization that basically joins a Democratic Party and the Liberal Party of Canada here in Canada.

If you've never looked into it, that might be a deep dive I might need to do. It's called Canada 2020 for any of you that want to look it up, whether American or Canadian, because it ties the Democrats and the liberals here. So it's Republicans, here's the thing. The problem is that, and I say this with chagrin, the Republican conservative coalition sucks and is nowhere near as effective as the hive mind, that is the Democratic, establishment in the U.S. and the Liberal Party here. Honest to God, we shouldn't even just, we shouldn't even call them the liberal party.

We might as well call them the Democratic Party of Canada. That's what they are. If you just dive into the policy frameworks, the meetings that they have annually, by the way. And many times throughout that year, Trump with Paulyev would have helped in terms attention. But ever since Trump during our election kind of like nudged, right, everybody to Carney, this is where Trump like really messed it up for us. I mean, we were on our way and he suddenly took over and became this big villain with his tariff stuff. And the liberals got a unbelievable gust of air with like to say, finally, we can pin it on something other

than the fact that for the last 10 years, we've done nothing but destroy this country. And now we're starting to see it kind of teeter off, right, this whole tariff argument. And I don't know if you've been noticing Mark Carney's numbers are dropping. The liberal party's points are dropping because it's, you can only run a framing narrative so long before everybody picks up on. Starts to notice. Yeah, like, hey, I still can't afford shit. I still can't buy a house.

What happened? It's been a year and a half. What have you done? You know, it's like that old Eddie Murphy stand-up routine. Remember Eddie Murphy, Raw? Eddie, what have you done for me lately, Eddie? Goonigoo. Gunny go-goo.

Yeah, remember that? Oh, man. It's old, right? That is old. But I tell you what, if you've never watched that, go sit yourself down. You need a smile on today while you're listening about stupidity in government that show i should go watch that again because it's an old standup but it is fantastic

yeah like eddie murphy at his finest yeah it was that's what and if i could be wrong vespers but it was pretty clean too it's not like he's dropping a f bomb every no no no it was all f bombs was it all that man you've gotten too old bro oh maybe i have maybe i have i just remember that what was it was the one cosby that was criticizing him for too many f bombs What was the one where his mom takes the shoe off? Oh, no, don't even go to it. Let's not ruin. Don't ruin it.

Don't ruin it. I'm not ruin it. I'm not going to ruin it for all you, lovely people. So, no, what I'm saying is I'm unbelievably appreciative of the fact that. Everybody's got that uncle, Vesper. You don't go around that uncle. Who let him around that uncle? I love that part.

No, no, look, I, I love Americans. I love the fact that we, we, Canada and America, not forget the politics now. We've been the best friends through multiple wars. Through multiple generations. Yeah, I mean, I know that we had like very, very early on a lot of friction, but I mean, ever since Reagan and the really got came together. If you go early on, what was the friction? It was Britain in the U.S.

Yeah. Right? Like as we've all been living here. I don't feel like there's any friction. No, no, I mean, I mean our governments. Yeah, our government. And look, all this to say that I'm very happy for the American base that I continue to grow with. And I'm thankful to all of them that are listening.

And yeah, I'm on X. Catch me outside. Okay, well, 20 minutes in, people are like, what are these? two doing we're having fun today all right yeah we are we're gonna talk about some serious stuff i know that's why you brought me well i want to i do want to talk about brookfield right uh you've done deep dives on it now for the audience walk us through this you know because everybody everybody knows the carny and what he did in his past life and how is it benefiting and you know there's these loose things on it's gonna you know every deal that's ever made somehow brookfield's uh uh benefiting

So I think I need to preface this by saying, and that's going to sound very arrogant, and it probably is. From this point forward, I want you to give me a clean slate, everybody. Okay. And we're going to start really simple so you understand how this all builds. Now, I'm going to go really quickly by putting things that happened until we get to Brookfield. Sounds right? Is that okay? Sure.

Mark Carney, governor the Bank of Canada. We all know that. under Harper. Mark Carney gets offered liberal leadership, liberal party leadership. This is right before Trudeau. He says, no, thank you. I'm going to, I'm expected to make $10 million plus at the Bank of England. I mean, he doesn't explicitly say it, but when we look at the deal that he was getting, why would I become the leader of the liberal party when I could just go and make $10 million plus in the UK, right? Okay, so we're good so far?

Fine. While at England, as the governor of the Bank of England, making a million dollars minimum a year, Brexit started to happen also. And he introduced the concept that we all call this quantitative easing also while he was there in the Bank of England because they were having economic prices. And guess what the problem was? Inflation and house. You can't make this up. Okay. Brexit happens and now he has to navigate as the bank of England's governor, this whole debacle of separating Britain from the EU. And he can't help himself because he's deep down a Marxist who pretends to be a Catholic and has to

opine on it and almost put the whole thing in jeopardy and his numbers i mean he came in they called him the rock star banker uh five i'd say three to five years in everybody was like starting to turn on the guy but because of brexit it was pivotal that he couldn't just leave now for you to don't know this about mark carney this guy's background is goldman sacks so he's an asset man asset manager hedge fund manager, big bank money guy. Okay, just remember that. Before any of this stuff, this is what this guy's ilk is, okay, his history. So now he's out.

And during this time as the Bank of England governor, the green hysteria started, the climate stuff started. And Mark Carney decides, you know what, I'm going to jump on this because I fundamentally believe that we are heading. and I'm not kidding, into the sixth mass extinction, okay, of the human race. And he begins to campaign all over Europe for this. I mean, he has the clout, right? He's the governor of the Bank of England. And at that, around that time, Black Rock, Vanguard, and a bunch of banks and hedge funds all kind of came together before him to start this whole ESG push.

and he was positioned perfectly, which is when he created this organization that we call as G-Fans, okay, based out of Scotland. And yeah, then what happens is the United Nations appoints him as basically the czar on climate change, while being governed at the Bank of England. he has this transitional period where he now heads completely into that. Does that make sense? He now drops off after his tenure as the bank governor, the governor of the Bank of England, and now goes exclusively into this United Nations role for climate change. Makes a ton of network connections, a ton, okay? And where this goes is where we're heading into this conversation

and why you brought me on, is that it finally lands him into Brookfield. Brookfield, what is Brookfield? It's a multi-billion dollar firm that deals in asset management and expanded itself over the years into multiple sectors such as housing, green energy, emerging AI infrastructure and data. And Mark Carney comes in, but he doesn't come in as like the boss right away. He gets put in as the boss, or the boss, or the boss, or the the chair of ESG for the company. Okay. Later on, he becomes the boss, like the complete CEO of Brookfield Corp.

Now, we have to make something clear. And if I've lost you, Sean, stop me, okay? No, you're doing great. Brookfield is multiple, it sits under one major company called Brookfield Corporation. but there are many sub-brookfields under them right you have brookfield clean energy brookfield housing brookfield all these things so he was the one that was in charge of the whole climate stuff but now he runs brookfield corp so at one point he's running one of the branches which is brookfield clean right and then eventually he becomes the guy at brookfield corp which is a little over the entirety

Bam. And that's so important because until now, and I want every viewer that is listening or person that's just listening, just remember this kind of timeline. Bank of Canada, Bank of England, United Nations Envoy on climate change, Brookfield. See how simple that is? It's four steps that this guy took. We're going to get to when he becomes prime minister because that's the reason why this deep dive hit so many people and it went so viral. Okay. So now he's chair of Brookfield, and he comes with a, let's put it this way, a package of connections and a massive WEF network. So he's persistently presented even before as prime minister at the World Economic Forum and every other subsidiary that is an organization about, you know, getting together globalist. Like he genuinely is like the quintessential globalist elite, okay, in every sense of the word. And now as he's heading into Brookfield, he as envoy and we'd be, we would be naive to think that he wasn't building a massive network of people around him with special interests when he was envoy and when he ran G fans. for climate change in ESG. And now he sits in a company,

at some point becomes the head of this company, Brookfield, with billions of dollars under him. And what does he bring with him? All that network while at the United Nations as a special envoy and G fans to start expanding their base. Now, before he became prime minister, Mark Carney was giving talks. Now, here's what's really fascinating.

2020, he joins Brookfield. And the time he's as an envoy, during this time as he is an envoy, he brings with him a bunch of people that enter the company as advisors and consultants for Brookfield that he had met through his time at the United Nations. Now, why is this important? Well, we all know, to those of you that don't know, this guy ended up being advisor to the Prime Minister of Canada at some point, Justin Trudeau. And while simultaneously being the chair, the head boss of Brookfield. So if you guys are wondering where the climate insanity happened after COVID,

It happens and you can literally map it onto the exact time Mark Carney began to become the advisor. Now, why is this important? He not only brought the climate craze, Sean, okay? He brought with him also what he tried to do in England. Things like quantitative easing. If all of you that don't understand what quantitative easing is basically this. The bank prints more money and floods the economy, the economy, the economy, the economy with digital currency so that there is disposable income for the government to use

on whatever it needs. So during COVID, the reason why all the millions of dollars in Serb and SEPA payments were being made out is precisely because the Bank of Canada was able to authorize through quantitative easing. Tiff MacLam is the governor now of the Bank of Canada, but he instructed the prime minister that we need to do quantitative easing. The very thing he did in England and got them into trouble economically. And a massive amount of money flooded the market. He also advised them on immigration, which is something that very few people ever talk about. But it's important to keep this in mind. While he's doing this, the climate stuff, the immigration, the quantitative easing, all the policies that he brought with him as the, you know, during his stint at the, in England,

he's the chair of Brookfield now during that chair and this is what the video is about that you watched on X I don't know if you want to show people that the picture to the link so people could read it for themselves follow it here I'll pull it up

it's how to steal legally I'll uh right you can go on to Vesper or search out Vesper Digital correct or you can go down my timeline and it's retweeted on there as well yeah so at Vesper Digital there's two videos two videos. This is part one and then there's part two of this where science of greed. Right. And if you go down in that, and I've broken it down in the thread so that people can see

how this starts when he's prime minister, but it shows you before that what was the problem. All these companies you're looking at and all these names, if you're watching here. So let's just name some of them if it's okay. Can we just start from the top? that you don't mind. I'll go right back to the top. So we have a company like North River that Brookfield owns and they work in the energy sector essentially. Okay. And the primary thing is natural resources, all right. Pipelines, blah, blah, blah, blah. These are the guys that work out also in Alberta. Okay, just so you know, this is like all over. Westinghouse is nuclear energy. Okay, they, they build basically all the nuclear components for that sector called nuclear energy.

And then you have other companies such as North River. You have data center companies like Compass, data four. Let's put it this way. Brookfield, while he was there, wanted to tackle a bunch of sectors. Now, I don't know if you picked up on this, Sean, but it's important that everybody does. I want you all to keep in your mind sectors. Because where we're about to go now is that after he did all this advising for Justin Trudeau to kind of set up all these things that would benefit Brookfield in the sectors that they were building,

the policies were changing so that Brookfield would take advantage of those things. Now, was it a check from Trudeau to Brookfield? No. They don't do it that way. and I'll explain in a bit why that is. Until now, Sean, I'm going to stop so it doesn't sound like I'm just going on and on. Does all this make sense to you now so far?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, no, I think so. You're walking through Mark Carney and where he came from and all the things, right? From the Bank of Canada, the Bank of England, to the UN, to becoming one of the chairs of Brookfield, to becoming the head of Brookfield,

And it's like, this is how you get to, you know, and I wrote down and he became an author of the book values, right? Like, so you're, you're walking through who the guy is. Right. And the connections he's picking up along the way. And, you know, if I was running a hockey team and you'd won Stanley Cups, then I go, this is why we're hiring this guy. When you look at Carney's track record, you go, why are we hiring this guy? Right. And what does he do is the head of Brookfield?

He becomes advisor to the Prime Minister of Canada. Next step, become the Prime Minister. But there's a reason why. And I want you all to stop and ask yourselves a question. Why would you leave behind or on the table tens of millions of dollars to take a job that supposedly pays you $500,000 a year? Well, I would answer, it supposedly pays you $500 because that's what you tell the public. We both know that isn't what's happening here.

Well, no, no, let's just pretend. Your salary is explicitly $1.7 million as the head of Brookfield. Sure. And you decide, I'm going to run for prime minister and make explicitly. 500 grand. 500 grand. So you're going to trim your salary by two thirds, a little more than that. There's what's the catch here? Is it that you're purely idealistic? Or is there something else here?

And this is what that video was that caught your attention. So I'm going to break it down by dates. I wrote them down for you here. 2020, Brookfield appoints Mark Carney as vice chair of head of ESG, 2020 to 2023. Large domestic investments concept later described as the Maple Fund. And that's what you remember seeing in the video. The Maple Fund comes out. Now, if you remember nothing about Carney Post,

like everything in Brookfield, this is while at Brookfield, he tries to launch something called the Maple Fund. And if none of you know, there's a, there's a, a news outlet called The Logic. Now, it's not cheap. You have to pay like three, four hundred dollars to get an annual subscription to them, but they do some of the greatest digging I've ever seen into this. They talked about the Maple Eight. What is the Maple Eight? Mark Carney approached the government during his stay as head of Brookfield, not, you know, of one of the things. He was legitimately the boss and wanted pension funds that the Maple Eight is the top eight

pension funds in Canada to join him to boost all the sectors that he wanted Brookfield to grow it housing data infrastructure climate infrastructure nuclear infrastructure all the things that he wanted to do was through this pitch that he made called the Maple Fund okay he asked the federal government look we'll put up 30 billion, you put up 10 billion, and we'll draw these pensioners and tell them to drop in $36 billion to do this thing. Well, everybody at some point backed out. It was a loss for Mark Carney. It was part of his plan to grow Brookfield, okay, and their investments in these sectors. So none of this happened.

And by 2024, what are we running into in late 2024? The proposal that he offered triggered a conflict of interest criticism because he was both head of Brookfield, Corp, the entire Brookfield, and at the same time was the economic advisor for Justin Trudeau. Can you see now, the guy wasn't even PM yet, And there was already a flag for a conflict of interest. And by the way, that's just one of hundreds to come. So on one hand, you're the advisor to the prime minister

and you're pitching something called the Maple Fund from Brookfield to get pensioners on board so that you could make Brookfield make more money, the company that you have investments in. Yeah, nah, bro. that's exactly what happened. Yeah, no, bro. If it weren't for that ethics catch, this guy would have probably never become PM

because he would have got what he wanted. Now, I know. Everyone's going to be like, dude, this is two tinfoil hat, Vesper. Take off your tinfoil hat. You sound like a kook. I'm not a kook. It's all documented. It's so.

I don't think this sounds like a kook. No, but there are some people that if you tell them this, it sounds like I'm drawing a, bond villain here. And the thing is, folks, villains today are perfectly normal people with their own agendas. Okay. This guy is not out to kill anyone, harm anyone. It just wants to get rich. That's it. That's greedy. That's all this is. This is why I called it the science of greed. It has nothing to do with harming you. It has to do with, I'm playing the game better than you, which is really funny since liberals are all against like the idea of proper capitalism,

you know, free market capitalism, they want to control everything. But when it comes to them, just like typical socialists, it's capitalism for me, but not for thee. Right. These people at the top have access and network that none of us do, and they get to play with taxpayer money at their will. But I digress. November 5th, 2024, a leaked Brookfield pitch, describes the Maple Fund as targeting housing, data centers, nuclear energy, and crown asset

privatization. So I will repeat, the Maple Fund needs to be tattooed into every listener's mind from now on, because that is the quintessential blueprint of what is to come as he becomes prime minister. As a matter of fact, in one of the parts of the thread in this research, I said, how do you fix that in the science of greed. And I think if you could just pull it up real quick, I don't want to misread the science of greed. Right. So what does the first line up there say after like the title?

When Canada was in the way of money, my, whose money, his money, at Brookfield investments, he did the most sensible thing. He became prime minister. Do you guys understand now? he became prime minister he pitched something that would have made brookfield not just for 50 billion because believe me the 50 billion would have easily trickled so the question then well no i'm gonna pull you off i won't ask a question no please i want you to ask the question then then i'm like okay you go i sound tinfoil hat vespers no no no no i'm gonna want up you i'm gonna want up you because i

go okay who's in all those circles donald trump Who becomes the villain so that Mark Carney can come from nowhere to win an election? Donald Trump. Would we not go, well, if there's billions in it, who's there to make a deal? Donald Trump? Yep. And you might go, I mean. That's the inconvenient truth in all this, right?

Yeah. And then go, okay, you got all this stuff tied up in environmental, everything. How are we going to rattle the cage so that we can maybe get some stuff moving? But it's not only environmental, Sean. Brookfield has massive real estate capital in the United States. They get billions of dollars in tax exemptions in the United States and internationally. You know that. They're not just America, Canada.

They're all over Europe. And they are no different than a Black Rock or Van Gogh. as far as I'm case. So you look at it and you go like when you look at it, it can sound tinfoil, Hattie, but I guess like, I don't know. I just take a step back. And I'm like, if I was in that world of like billions of dollars, my brain has a hard time even, you know, you got Elon Musk a trillionaire.

And you're like, what? Meanwhile, half of us are, you know, that we're talking about like, how is this going? What did you say in Quebec? It went from 500 to 1.4 million. You're like, what? You know, like the average person. You're essentially saying, is this by design?

Right. And the question needs to, if Mark Carney was the template for the typical billionaire globalist, and make no mistake, Donald Trump is a globalist, but Donald Trump is not just a globalist. We need to make that very clear. Donald Trump is very pro-America, and I love that about it. He loves his country, and he will do everything in his power to make sure his country profits. But while his country profits, let's not all become naive little children and think that he's not somehow in this also or himself, making deals with whatever, gambling, hotel, anything, name it. Right.

It's not like these politicians are all in this just for good feelings, you know what I'm saying? Like warm, fuzzy feelings of patriotism. He's a patriot, but let's not pretend that's all he is. None of these leaders are merely patriots. If you want to start talking about patriot patriots, let's talk really quickly just to give you an idea of how patriotic and the lack of, no, not the lack of, the sheer forgetfulness of history,

quick tangent here for all your viewers. What do you know about Sir Johnny and McDonald? Probably very little. I don't know. What's a really big thing? Name one big thing about Sir Johnny McDonald. It doesn't matter, no, no, first Prime Minister of Canada. Great.

Did you know that he resigned because he was caught in the railway scandal, Pacific Railway scandal, receiving large sums of money? That's the first Prime Minister. of Canada. The second prime minister of Canada. Mackenzie, same thing, resigned. In fact, McKenzie, and I did a thread on this, that you should watch, Sean, and I encourage others to watch it as well, it's on my ex, where I show why McKenzie bolstered the immunity

clauses of things like parliamentary privilege and access to the PMO and separated. the legislature, you know, judges and all that stuff in Canada, that they have no power inside of parliament. Why do you think he did that? Now, his thing was, I don't want judges to overrule democratically elected people. Oh, sure. They sold it in a way. They sold it in a way.

But it was all because if judges could just access what we're doing, right, and supervise what we're doing. and the things we say and the promises we break, we might be held liable. In fact, McKenzie, in that video that I'll send you, Sean, and feel free to share this with your followers as well, McKenzie says he wanted to make it accessible to any citizen to become a parliamentarian without becoming financially ruined.

So the first Prime Minister of Canada folks resigned. And as a funny, just as a funny quip of that event with McDonald, Sir Johnny McDonald, when he was brought to a trial to basically testify about what the documents were that got leaked that he was involved in this scheme, do you know what his answer was? And I hit you not. You want to know what his answer was? He says between the periods in which the documents were dated that he was, that he was, was a heavy drinker and had massive lapses of memory between those periods of time. Basically, yeah, yeah.

You think, do you, I don't remember shit. Do you think I don't remember anything that happened that, do you think you could actually vote in a prime minister who was just the common person who wanted the best for Canadians? Is that even a thing? No. No. No. No. No.

No. And, and there's a reason why. companies run this world, not leaders. I mean, we're talking about Brookfield. Okay. And we need to finish this because we can go off on a tangent. Sure. Yeah, I know.

I keep, this is what happened. No, no, I love the tangents. You pulled me into Johnny McDonald. And now I'm going, okay. Well, I'm doing it to show you guys something that it's not. And he was, Sir John M. McDonald's a conservative. And this is not the last conservative that had to resign his government.

over corruption. Well, anyone that thinks the conservatives aren't, sorry, you go into the political realm, the same problems are on all sides. Yeah. And I can't say that Pierre is that person, but I can't say that history says that he is and will be, right? If anything, there is always going to be special interests involved. We have a lobbying registry.

There should be no lobbying. There just shouldn't be any lobbying. The fact that we have lobbying is part of the problem here. Okay? That tells you everything you need to know. Why would I, why would we need lobbying? Anyways, so 2025 after the Maple Fund fiasco completely failed, Mark Carney leaves Brookfield to pursue now the liberal leadership race.

Yes. And he inherits when Justin Trudeau pro-robed government for months, something that democracy watch is taken to court, by the way, because it is illegal what he did. There was no reason to pro-rogue government other than self-interest. And I'm going to tie this really back to something that you absolutely hate talking about, Sean, but I'm sorry we have to talk about it. I hate talking about it. Yeah, yeah. This is the part you don't like. I mean, you like it because you understand it, but you don't want to talk about it. So May 25th, parliamentary written question, Q735 presses the government on its discussions dealing related to Brookfield and the fund proposal,

the Maple Fund. So now he's Prime Minister and they're saying, can you show us evidence of what was discussed between you and Justin Chudow? Okay. They gave them nothing. By September of 2025, the commentators described the Maple Fund as effectively going nowhere because major pensions were no longer interested and the political optics looked really ugly. Now, that Carney was Prime Minister. Okay. January 2026, Carney becomes Prime Minister and he begins to advance the priorities that were found in said Maple Fund. Data centers, nuclear and asset monetization. They all track and look unbelievably close, like we're talking 96% of the plan that was found in the Maple Fund pitch to the pension plans.

And now it's part of his policy. But what does you call it? Make Canada strong. So he brands it. He branded it differently. Now, we talked about some of this. You want to talk about housing? No, I want to, I just want to make sure that I clear up the timeline.

You said January 2026, he becomes prime minister. That was the year before he became. comes prime minister what you're talking about yeah no no sorry the 20 25 i said 2026 i apologize yeah yeah and in and by the way when i when i said september all that's 2024 i just i put the dates wrong yeah you put the dates wrong i just go back one year just go back one year on the last and then as he becomes prime minister what he does is he changes it from the maple fund to blueprint he doesn't use the same page correct just takes everything that the maple fund was about which was to expand sectors with the use of pension funds.

And now Brookfield... But now he doesn't need pension funds. He has the taxpayer... Yeah, money. Right. Now, he will still... He is still luring in pension funds. Sure, why not?

Because, I mean, I would love $100 billion. I would love $1 trillion. And if that comes... Dude, I did another video over there. I did a video about this where Mark Carney is bringing us into the biggest bubble right now, which is AI. But he's doing this by dovetailing off of what Christia Freeland under the previous Liberal administration did, which was dangle $15 billion to the CPP and the PSP.

People that don't know what CPP is, Canadian pension fund, pension plan investments, CPP, PSP is public sector pension investments. they dangled in front of all of them $15 billion like, hey, join us to help us build data centers. And everybody is seeing that this is going to be a bubble that's going to pop, but they don't care. Everyone's going to make their money through their investments. Right. And so to just kind of stop at this point

and say, okay, all these sectors of Brookfield through the Maple Fund wanted, what were they acquiring? Well, they acquired for housing. You know how we're all talking about modular homes. Well, Brookfield owns Modular Group. They bought it for $5 billion from a French company. So now Brookfield works in modular construction for housing. And I could go on and on. They bought Westinghouse. They bought all these sectors that strangely and very weirdly, the liberal government under Mark Carney is now saying, we need these sectors to grow to make Canadians.

Yeah, so they're playing inside baseball. If you were sitting there going, you know, your best friend is the prime minister. And he's going, okay, listen, the government is about to expand in, we need more homes. So we're going to go to modular homes.

We're going to expand in nuclear energy. We're going to expand an AI. Everything's pushing that way. We're going to be, the temperature on oil and gas is changing. We're going to be building more pipelines. Brickfield goes, okay,

we need to acquire companies in these sectors. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And they do, right? And they do. Then a whole bunch of money comes from the government down into those sectors. hey, we're going to award contracts to go do X, Y, Z in all these different sectors.

And who's there to catch that cash? Brookfield. Now, before we jump into this, the conservative government, and you saw this across the news, and even CTV, CBC, they all wanted to talk about it. Some of them dialed it back to make it look like, you know, Mark Carney. I want you to click this link, if you don't mind. Sorry, I think I sent you the wrong link. Give me one second.

Here, I'll just give you the right. You want conflict of interest or is it a different one? No, no, I'm going to show you in a second, okay? Go to the science, how to steal legally real quick. And folks, I want you to pay attention to understand that fundamentally Mark Carney is not stealing anything. Let me qualify that. Mark Carney is not doing anything illegal as per the laws of our country.

right now as they stand there is a gaping hole that nobody has ever plugged and so i want you to scroll down that if you don't mind uh sean to show to make a point and then we're going to go up to keep going down you'll see it that this one right here yeah click that mark carney uh basically out of precaution decided to say as he was being screened right for the ethics his conflict of interests, decides to say, these are the companies that I have in my portfolio. 103 companies he disclosed to the ethics commissioner. Are we good so far, John? Yep. The problem is Brookfield Corp has 2,000 entities, not 103. And he didn't have to disclose the other 1,870 something, companies that he has investments in. That's what the conservatives were running after,

saying, you're only giving us 103 out of 2,000, give or take. Can you show us everything? He's like, no, I showed it to the ethics commissioner. He said he was fine. But the, so Finkenstein, I mean, could you have a better Bond villain name for our Ethics Commissioner, von Finkenstein? And these, what do you notice right away for his investments? Oh, I'm telling everyone it's Brookfield. But here's the problem. Thank you, and I'm going to be a bit dramatic here. Thank you, Mark, for telling us that you own investments in Brookfield, that makes you look honest.

But here's the problem. Brookfield owns many other companies or has it shares in companies, massive shares in companies, that don't have the name Brookfield on them. Now, if you click that picture and decide at some point to scroll down in your own, because no, it's not there. You can literally go looking for it and you'll find this. This is a disclosure to the Ethics Commissioner. You will find that not everything's called Brookfield,

but Brookfield, I found easily, very easily, 15 companies that Brookfield has over 45% shares in. And are you telling me that Mark Carney has shares? There's in that? No, folks, this is what I'm trying to help you understand. Mark Carney has all of his investments in Brookfield Corp, first and foremost. Please understand. This is the analogy of the tree that I explained, right? Sean, this is the whole point. Brookfield Corp is the trunk of this tree. Everything that goes up from this tree, the branches, the leaves, and everything,

is everything that is all these other companies and all these other investments. Does he have to go investing in every single one of those things? No. All I have to put my investment in is into the trunk. And if as long as I can align policy that the trunk continues to feed off of the rest of the tree, then I'm gold. My investments skyrocket. I could have just one investment and it's enough.

I could just have Brookfield Corp and I'll make all the money I want. And so he puts it into this blind trust. This is the argument that everybody says, that he can't see, you know, what's happening inside of it. Yeah, because we're all naive idiots and think that, you know, a guy with millions and millions of dollars never talks to the guy or didn't talk to the guy or didn't send someone to talk to the guy that's in charge of his blind trust. But even if he did and the money was put out there,

we already have how much he technically has investments in and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but these things are tied to Brookfield. And you're creating policy to benefit Brookfield. That's where the liberals and Carney will go, no, that's not what we're doing. And folks, this is where it's going to finally make sense to you, like it made sense to poor old Sean over here. If you'd go back to that link real quick, Sean's going to do the reading because he has the most beautiful voice. I don't know if I do that or not, but I have included in this. You really do.

I don't say that to, you know, low smoke up your rear end. I genuinely think you have a great interview. voice. Just close that and go to the conflict of interest section. This is what Democracy Watch, if none of you are following Democracy Watch online, you really need to start following Democracy Watch. They do the most powerful research into government affairs and ethics and illegality that I've seen from anybody. Nobody does work as extensively as them. Where people get lost is because they're lawyers, sometimes it's hard to parse what they're trying to say, right?

So Dove Conacher is brought into committee during this conservatives going after Carney is in his conflicts of interest, and they bring in Doff Conacher, and they say, can you please explain to us why this is an issue? And Duff doesn't go, Sean. Mark Carney is a thief. Are we clear on that? He doesn't do that.

What does he point to? He points to this. What does this say? Conflict of Interest Act. Private interest does not include an interest in a decision or matter. A, that is of general application. B, that affects a public office holder as one of a broad class of persons or C, that concerns the re, remuneration.

Thank you. Or benefits received by virtue of being a public office holder. A and B, to those of you that are watching, let me show you the genius here and the flaw in our conflict of interest act. The problem, and I've said this to so many mindless zombies on social media trying to explain this, the ones that were fighting me anyways, the one who's understood, I'm glad they did. Yes, he's a greedy capitalist. Yes, he's dishonest. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, everything. Okay.

But let me ask you a question, Sean. Are there thieves where you live? Certainly. Do you have a door to your house? Yes. Do you have a lock on that door? Correct. Yep. What if you're an idiot and you uninstall the lock and leave the door?

Can you then really blame the thief? You haven't taken the precautions to keep yourself safe. That's Duff Conacher's argument at Democracy Watch. Canada uninstalled or never installed a lock. And somebody has exposed it. Isn't this what happens? You know, I always come back to sports, Bessper, and people want to win, right?

It's sports. You want to win the Stanley Cup? So you look at the rules and you find ways to bend them. Are they breaking the rules? 100%. Sometimes they do. In every sport. In every sport.

This is every sport. Think of the Houston. Think of the Houston Astros. Who would have thought 100 years ago they would use technology with to tell them what pitches were being thrown? Right? Like that is wild. Who would have thought that at an F1, that a slight change to the bumper would give you an advantage that was measurable on a track? Armstrong and bike racing.

Right. Right? Like this is a human problem, right? Yes. So when we look at politics, I bring. my lens of sports on it. They want to win. And for a lot of these people winning

Mark Carney after he's in office is making billions of dollars. For him and his friends and everybody else. That's winning. This is as old as Rome and even before. This is what it always was. And so this very naive

childish understanding of what Canada is that we are we have politicians that get into it for the sheer goodwill. Maybe some of them did. Then they realized the machine is so busted that while I'm here, since I can't fix it, since I might as well find a way to stuff a few thousand dollars in my pocket.

So yeah, let's play this out. I'm MP whatever, okay, call me whatever, Bobby Boucher. And I come in really wanting to change, you know, Quebec policy through the federal government to make it so that people pay less rent, less this, this, this, this, this. I get in. Immediately, the leader of my party goes, we're not going to talk about that because that'll cost us votes in this area because why we have some lobbying companies that are lobbying us that don't want you to help this competitor grow. They want to own the entire pie of housing in this area. So your very naive views of helping all Canadians is what keeps us in power when we

don't. Because if we piss off this major investor that's literally been lobbying us and donating to us, then we will lose that person and lose funding, which will then hurt us in the polls. And I can't become the next prime minister and you won't end up becoming a cabinet minister so you mean i can't publicly stand up there and say that we need to fight corruption in construction companies in kebac no you cannot do that i'll give you i'll give you one again um vesper brings it back to politics i'm gonna bring it back to hockey sure ron mclean the first time he's ever on the podcast is explaining going out he just got hired to be on hockey night in canada they go for supper with A bunch of the sponsors and the team and whatever else.

And he orders a Heineken. Do you know who the major sponsor was back then? Moulson's. And his boss goes to him after everybody leaves. Ron, you ever drink a Heineken in front of the sponsors ever again? You're fired. So do you think he becomes a Moulson drinker pretty darn quick? Yes, he does.

And so we act like we're so above this all. But when you bring it into our area of expertise or our area of interest, it's like this is a human condition this has been going on forever and you go well what can we do we can put a lock on the door that would be smart it'd be smart to have ways so that politicians can't just run amok with all the taxpayer money yeah well i mean look put up that conflict of interesting again let me explain a and b to you and to everybody when it says a uh an interest or decision in the matter to a general application is when I say Brookfield, is that me being specific or general?

I think pretty specific, isn't it? Bam. Stay right there. Let me show you where the whole is. And I'm saying this for your viewers and you so that you would understand why Mark Carney gets to become really rich. And he's not doing it illegally. you may say unethically, but not illegally.

Public office holder as of a broad class of persons, meaning it doesn't affect one person or like two people. It affects a major population. When you watch that video, Sean, I had posted a picture that showed how Mark Carney, when he became prime minister, and by the way, folks, he knew about this section before becoming prime minister make no mistake about it well he probably had 10 lawyers go through it right let me explain to you how this works if i say to you sean sean you're brookfield okay i'm going to become the prime minister if i say i'm going to give brookfield 40 billion

dollars to start its you know spending on these on these sectors uh no that's a conflict of interest because you have a stake in Brookfield. I see. Okay. What if ethics commissioner, I decide to drop a shit pile of millions of dollars on this entire field of people? And yeah, Brookfield happens to be in this field too. Does that bring me into the problem of general application? Yes, it does. Ah, I see. What if I dropped it, the money, all in this empty field with people lined up to join this field? Would that be me breaching it? No, you're good. Who do you think is first in line on that field that everyone now wants to get in on?

Brookfield. This is how he bypasses all this shit. He creates what we call, sector investments. And if you want to picture them in your head, think of it like large tranches of land, one for housing, empty, barren, fertile, that he's going to drop millions of dollars on that area. This is, by the way, all part of the Canada growth, right? Growth fund, right? Canada's strong BS that he's pushing to everyone. Then another tranche is for data or AI. Then another tranche is for green energy and climate infrastructure. Then another tranche, and you can go on and on, nuclear, this, this, all these fields are empty with people to come to bid on this. And he builds it, but he doesn't direct it. Does that make sense? I build it, but I don't direct it. And then

Brookfield comes in under another MP, whether it be for housing, for whatever, and they submit and they get the contract. He wasn't involved. My hands are clean. I just built the land and I dumped a bunch of money on that land. I didn't tell Brookfield to go and get it. Brookfield goes in, collects billions of dollars from each one of the sectors that was in that Maple Fund. Brookfield Corp becomes richer, expands its investments in Canada. His stocks go up. He makes money. He got past the whole thing by literally putting billions of dollars into these blank sectors as projects to push Canada's economy. But it was perfectly set up for Brookfield to come in as the biggest player to profit off of these sectors. And the Ethics Commissioner can't say, well, he personally enriched

Brookfield. It just so happens that Brookfield lined up to come into this sector. It's not his fault. Do you see the quandary that we're in? Yes. If you're a Mark Carney fan, it's quite brilliant. You've got to give it to him. It is, it's not brilliant in that it doesn't make sense. It's that nobody knows about the section of the Conflict of Interest Act. Okay. It's, it's really important that people start to familiarize themselves with the fact that Canada as a whole. And ever since you've known, Sean, you and I have always done these deep dives into these very very well-buried aspects of law we did on Alberta independence we did it through other things I forget right now but we're talking about things like the conflict of interest act you know

regular every Monday morning reading that everyone does you know what I mean yeah let's all open the conflicts of interest act with my cup of coffee and just read nothing but legalese yeah but once again okay when you put it that way forgive me folks because I'm going to do it again. I'm going to pull it back to something that that has been in my life. Hockey. You go to senior hockey. Right now, now I'm talking about a very micro spot of the entire Canadian society. Now you're talking about about a hundred in some communities in Saskatchewan and in, forget how many communities have senior hockey in Alberta. Is it 20 some folks, regardless, doesn't matter. Then there's specific rules in there. You're not allowed to pay anyone. Okay.

What if, but now you're talking, okay, what is the rule actually say? You're not allowed to pay any individual player. So what happened if we bought hockey bags for everybody? Is that a conflict? Is that a problem? Well, no, if you did that. And you can see how in senior hockey that is so, like it's in, used to be a life I lived, you can see how you read the rules, get invested in it, you figure out, okay, well, we can do this,

but we can't do that. We're okay here. We're not okay there. And then what happens All the loopholes. Yeah. You find all the loopholes. And on the largest sense of the political realm,

that's what's happening. And it probably happens in the municipalities in provincially. All these levels have loopholes and the people that are very into it, that look at the conflict of interest act or have the money to pay people to look into the conflict of interest act and all the other acts. And identify all the holes.

And then they sit back and go, okay, if I got elected or someone, who got elected, how could we use that through the loopholes to find us the best possible things? And where me and Vesper sit, I think I'm speaking for Vesper, we look at this and go, we're on the other side of this, where we go, we don't think you should be using the loopholes to enrich yourself. You think you should be closing the loopholes, have honest politicians that are trying to do best by the country, and maybe there's a couple other things in there that I'm missing

for Vesper. No, but see, stop right there. That's the problem, isn't it? Do honest, you said honest and politician in the same breath. True. The whole point of getting into politics is to be loved and to appease. I mean, you're called a servant. And what happens when you are actually serving corporations? There's two classes here, folks. The politician must serve beyond themselves.

Let's not talk about how they serve themselves because that's evident to everybody. Okay. There's a reason why every politician looks really good all the time. Except Stephen Giebaud, he always looks bad. Yeah, he looks like a car hit him like with a car filled with chickens. I swear to God, it's absurd. This guy never heard of a razor in his life. There's nothing about symmetry. You have a politician who comes in from the voters. Remember folks, companies, and we all know this, and it's obvious, companies don't vote in politicians. But regular people don't lobby politicians, companies do. The conservative party is going to be lobbied. Now, I'm a conservative, and I will vote Pierre Paulyev every day. But I am under no illusion that Pierre Paulyev will be lobbied and has been lobbied.

And Harper was lobbied and on and on and on. I'm not PPC, folks. I don't believe in a uniparty. I believe in what the Bible calls the human condition, the fallen condition of man. What Jesus said is that the love of money is the root of all evil. People need to understand that that is what drives these politicians. Maybe not initially, but let's give some benefit. Maybe they did want to change the world.

Stephen Giebeau wanted to change the world so badly, this idiot climbed the sea and tower to make a statement about climate change and then said on camera, you could find this on my timeline, I'm here to tell the world not to trust the liberal government. And six months later became a liberal MP. And now suddenly he's part of something called

the SDT scandal. You've heard about that, Sean. The Green Slush Fund. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And how his companies got funding from this scandal that people have now been flagged criminally for, where they received tens of millions of dollars

in investments from this fund, and Stephen Giebeau has two companies tied to that scandal. So the guy that was advocating for climate was funding his organizations to the tune of anywhere between $10 to $50 million. That's called The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil. This guy started out as a quack, climbing a building, ends up being recruited by the government that he was calling out,

becomes very rich, a lot of his investments become very profitable, and now he's gone because Mark Carney is unwilling to align with him. What happened to Guy Bo, folks, why he's no longer in the government, is because it's not because he gives a shit about liberals or conservatives or any of that. Mark Carney's personal goals no longer align with Stephen Giebos personal goals. This has nothing to do with liberal ideology. This is how it works in Ottawa, folks. The leader has his own agenda.

You have your agenda. So long as we are in agreement on things, I'll work with you. That is the definition of a constituent, by the way. constituents don't like you. They like what you like. The second what you like is no longer what I like. We are no longer a constituent to you. So Gibo steps out because why? Carney decided to divert now everything you're seeing when it comes to Brookfield and the Maple Fund strategy. And it's not all ESG. Because what is Carney pushing also part of the Canada grow? Canada's strong thing. Nuclear. What else is he pushing?

Fossil fuels. What else is he pushing? And who's benefiting from all this, Sean? These sectors that he created, these plots of land, under dumb Tudow, there was no plots of land. It was all just the green climate fiasco. But Carney comes in and says, all right, I helped this idiot for like four years,

but I'm not this idiot. He actually said on camera, I'm not him. Okay. I'm actually way smarter than him. Smarter, but the problem is even when you uncovered the conflicts of interest and how he's gaming this whole thing, folks, it's all legal. And here's the real question that I'll stop on. We could go into any direction you want after Sean. This law has existed since before Cretti, this conflict of interesting that

Harper was pushing, right, with the office of the ethics commissioner and so on and so forth and all these things. Nobody plug this hole. Canada, and scary scenario, if you could all picture this, has been operating under the false premise that human beings will act nobly when billions of dollars, millions of dollars are on the table. every time. Harper had a scandal under his name to the tune of $500 million that nobody talks about. Justin Trudeau, I don't need to go there. Karnie doesn't have a legit like thief audit scandal stuff, but we have this thing when it comes to Brookfield where he clearly is profiting off of his position. And legally, he's not doing anything wrong, but the moral and ethical implications are astounding.

Best, I appreciate you coming on and doing this. Oh. I wanted to do my best, man. And I love helping. To me, it's always, A, it's always cool to connect with somebody

on the other side of the country. And, you know, as I was telling you before we started, like, it's only a couple months, and hopefully we get to run each other in person.

I think that'll be super cool. Because we've, I think we've grown a pretty good little friendship here via this, right? Like, you know, I've talked to you an awful lot over the course of a few years now. Yeah.

And to actually finally meet in person is going to be something. And I look forward to continuing this chat when I get there. And hopefully we get to meet our, you know, hook our families up and everything else. Yeah, man. That'll be so cool. Well, and by that time, the kids will be just ready for some kid interaction. I'm sure of it. But, no, I appreciate you coming on.

I think you've given people a lot to chew on here. I just like to me it's it's the human condition I fall back on that now when I when I start it's like your analogies are perfect well if you put this to anything into where you are passionate about reading the conflict of interest act what are you talking about but if we I don't think I don't think most people don't know I think everyone does know politicians can't be fully trusted what I'm hoping to do and again I'm not I'm wondering if I should have that YouTube channel and expand a little bit more with all this content is Not that we don't know.

We all know. Every side knows. But what people don't have is somebody explaining how it's working this way. Everybody's either talking too complex or making up conspiracy. Or too simply just going these, yeah. Yeah, this guy's stealing. He's not stealing. There's a distinction here.

You need to understand because if you think he's stealing, you will blame him. Well, once again, and I guess this is going to be the theme of the day, I draw it back to the NHL. Why do people like Elliot Friedman and people of that, I don't know, position? That's a good question. Well, the answer is when Elliot Friedman talks,

he's a guy that has no problem going into the Conflict of Interest Act and all the rules, every little rule of the NHL. Some people's eyes, oh my goodness, we're going to go into how an offside have. He goes in and when he speaks, he speaks with authority to the situation. plus everybody respects him so he can call pretty much anyone in the nchl it seems and have like a pretty grounded story of like this is actually what's happening and what you're talking about with your youtube channel i think is you just friend to a friend as i go bestbert i think a lot of people respect you and you put the time in to go through every document i've seen this from you for how many years now

where we walk through things and you go yeah that makes sense to me it just does i i'm gonna i'm gonna contemplate that and you know what i mean i'd love to hear what some of your viewers think if they want to see more of these uh honestly what i'm aiming for is anything that isn't longer than 10 minutes and something that goes in stages uh as all the other long forms that i've done so far what's the harm i throw them up they're already recorded i just throw them in there and people have them to be able to share i mean dude i see them all over facebook i think people are ripping the videos down which i'm fine I would. I'm not worried about monetizing any of this. I want the public to be, to understand what's happening in a way that they could explain to their mother, to their father, to everybody.

That's the whole point, is to simplify very complex. And they do this on purpose, Ottawa. They convoluted all these things, these committee meetings, privilege this, bab beep, bap, really, at the end of the day, if you just look at it, Mark Carney found a hole in the law that would enable him. to indirectly allow Brookfield to step in and make a ton of money, which then strengthens his investments. Yeah. That's it. Thanks again, Fesper.

I appreciate you coming on, and I'm looking forward to finally meet you in person. That's going to be a lot of fun. It is going to be fun. Thank you so much for having me, and thanks for everybody that listened.