Shaun Newman Podcast - #1096 - Jim Sinclair
Episode Date: July 21, 2026Jim Sinclair is a retired Canadian Army corporal who served 33 years in the Canadian Armed Forces, primarily with the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. He completed four overseas tours,... including deployments to Afghanistan with the Royal Regina Rifles as a reservist, where he saw combat in Kandahar.He lives in Regina Beach where he owns and operates the Regina Beach Campground. Cornerstone Forum 26’https://shaunnewmanpodcast.substack.com/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.comText Grahame: (587) 441-9100Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: welcome@BowValleycu.com Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500
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Today's guest spent 33 years in the Canadian military.
He's a former member of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and served in four
tours overseas.
I'm talking about Jim Sinclair.
So buckle up.
Here we go.
Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.
Today, I'm joined by Jim Sinclair.
Jamie.
Welcome back on the program.
It's been a treat to be at your campsite here for the last couple days.
One of the family enjoys it.
It has become kind of like, you know, most people know that we leave in July, right?
The podcast usually slows down in July.
And we do this trip to one of my good friends' houses near Medicine Hat.
And then we buzzed down to Minnesota.
And you've become like the second stop all the time now.
and it started with last year when we stopped in you took the kids for riding the army truck
they talked about that for a long time and now people can go see us riding in the army truck
on X that's posted along my timeline but they've uh i don't know you've become just another
little part of the journey i guess in july and so along the road trip to to get us spend a
couple nights here has been a treat so first off great to have you on the podcast but great to be here
too well hey thanks uh uh uh uh uh well
What could I say like from meeting you, I don't know if that was five years ago with Hank and getting to know you?
20, 21.
Yeah.
Was it 2021?
It was 2021.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it was that fall, right?
It was that fall of everything coming in on the kids playing hockey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because 2020, they just shut everything down.
It was 2021 where all the vaccine or, you know, you had to be tested or, you know, and mask up.
Like, you know, it was wild to think about back then, Jamie.
But back then to play rec hockey, if you weren't vaccinated, I needed to wear a mask.
That's insane.
Anyways, but that's when we first met.
And, you know, when you first started talking to somebody, you know, if they, you know,
you got that connection.
It took like five seconds for me to realize you're a good dude.
And I'm honored to have your family here.
Like, I love the hell out of all your kids.
Your wife is a butte.
And I'm just proud to have you here.
Like my home is your guys' home,
and I hope you feel comfortable coming here.
And I'm proud to have you here and hopefully see you some more.
It'd be great to have you come back.
And next time I bring your golf clubs.
Jamie gives me crap every time I come because I never bring the golf clubs.
And he, like, literally is two seconds from the golf course.
But I did not bring my golf clubs.
I'm not, it's another thing.
You know, a week ago when I had twos on,
he was giving me hard time.
I didn't have hats and shirts,
and then everybody's been texting me about the stickers,
which yes, is funny.
But, yeah, I didn't bring the clubs either.
I couldn't find room to stick the golf clubs in.
Well, you don't look like much of a golfer.
You can probably use mine,
and you brought a golf just as good.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, just like how you play cards.
You're probably as good golfers as you're a card player.
on on the first night we're here with me and jamy stayed up till i don't know midnight
maybe a touch before and we played 31 and i got the most wins and i told them he told me
before we go to bed you got to let i'm winning you can't yeah i'm like yeah yeah i'll let you
win the last game james no worries there's a big gap in our age so it's like playing with a child
of course you won more sean it's like playing with a senior yeah of course you of course you got the last
win, Jamie. It's all good.
Now, I wanted to talk to you about...
Hey, listen, I got something to tell you.
In a gunfight, the last win counts.
Uh-huh. All right.
All right. I feel like
I'm surrounded by twos all the time.
Okay. So,
I want to talk to you about your campground.
Sure. I had
Jason Thornthill on...
Best place on the planet, by the way.
A week ago talking about Aspen Crossing,
we stayed there in Alberta.
and I had him on to talk about his private campground
and how they started and what they got there,
you know, and how they built it.
And I thought, well, let's just take it right back to the start, Jamie.
Because right now as it sits, it's a super cool place.
And I mean, obviously, if you're listening to the podcast
and you know who Jamie is and your fan,
like, well, come to Regina Beach on your road trip
and stop in and say, hi, I'm sure Jamie would be thrilled and see it.
But I want to go back to the start.
Like, where did this start from, like your campground and give us a story?
Well, it started in Scotland, actually.
My grandfather and his three brothers.
Sorry, my grandfather and his two brothers.
They immigrated here to Canada.
Two came in like before 1912.
They landed in Ontario, Toronto probably,
and it took them a couple of years to get out to Saskatchewan.
They would work on farms in the wintertime.
They would log and they would make their way.
to this property that they bought,
I don't know if they bought it in Toronto,
or if they bought it back in Scotland.
The other brother was actually,
um,
stayed in Scotland.
He ended up going to World War I,
which we didn't know until like this year,
our cousin figured it all out.
But looking back at my uncle John,
he was always like dressed to the nines.
You know,
everything was meticulously taken care of in his,
in his garage and his,
house and when you walked into his house like there was like he had like the see-through matting on the
floor everywhere he had to go he had to walk on the mat when you sat down on his couch there was like
that see-through vinyl on the couch to sit there like so yeah it it it uh i could tell he was in the
military now looking back that far but uh yeah he didn't come until after war war one uh he
survived the warrior um like he wasn't injured but uh so yeah he fought
with some Scottish regiment in World War I,
which is pretty cool,
cool history to find out about now.
That's thanks to our cousin Trent Lalonde.
He's a meticulous historian,
and he keeps track of the Sinclair side of where we came from.
So yeah, my grandfather and his brother, Willie,
their first winter they spent in a tent on the bottom of the property,
which borders the rail line, which is right on the lake.
And then they branched out.
So Uncle Willie, he did water and milk in Regina Beach.
My grandfather caught ice and hired all kinds of people.
And I say this, like when I was a kid growing up in the farm in town,
there'd be native kids, white kids.
We all played together.
Nobody knew the difference.
And those families worked with my grandfather in the winter,
cutting ice and they would fill rail car after rail car and these rail cars would fill ice houses
across the province so it was a pretty pretty big business back in a day i got stuff all over my house
for for cutting ice that you know his hands touched and so this farm uh stretched three miles south
at one time uh it was cattle mostly we call it a farm it's called bull riney after the house that
my grandfather was born in.
And when I was overseas in 06, I actually went to the house in Scotland that he was born in.
And we got a Karen in the graveyard with a piece of slate from that roof is the top of the
Karen, too.
So we're pretty connected with our family still in Scotland.
Like my dad's brother, Stu, his kids, they go back and forth quite a bit.
I've been.
My sister's been.
My two brothers haven't been back yet, but they, they, they,
inspire to go. So, but the Scottish family comes to Canada quite often. So we get to see them and keep,
keep in connection. So yeah, that's what we started. Once again, Long Lake here, right? You're saying
you were selling, your grandfather sold ice out of it and put it on the rail car going across Canada.
Did I do that? Not, not across Canada, but across the province. Or across province.
Yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant. Across Saskatchew. It's another, you know, like the episode before this,
is Henry Sr.
Henry Sidet Sr.
So everybody, if you go back in the time frame,
Henry Sidlitz was the first guest I had on with Jamie.
And it's his father that was on just previously.
And he was talking about fishing in this lake,
a commercial fishing.
Yeah, we did commercial fishing too.
I don't know why.
It just, it almost boggles my brain.
I don't know why,
but I just don't think of Saskatchewan as a fishing province, right?
even though there's great fishing up in the north.
Obviously there's great fish, you know, like for the things that they were using it for here in, you know, in Long Lake.
I just, it just, it baffles me a bit.
But, you know, like the people were pretty ingenuative.
Am I saying that right?
Regardless, like the sending of the ice makes complete sense.
You've got a giant body of water there.
You can just keep pulling from it and send it on.
That actually makes a ton of sense to me.
But once again, you know, it's just interesting the history of a place, you know?
Well, it's out of survival, to be honest.
Like, so this is, this, this province, like, people would immigrate here with all kinds of dreams.
And the, the environment of this province would just kill them.
Like, it was, it's relentless.
It doesn't care about your dreams.
If you're not hard, if you're not hardy enough.
True words have never been spoken.
It does not care about.
about your dreams.
It will,
it will,
it chewed up.
Well,
both of us are,
are,
uh,
fans of history.
And when you look at the early
pioneers who came over here and got their plots of land and
stayed here,
like some of the stories are just horrific.
And then,
and yet they still find a way through it.
And you're like,
you know,
and I always point out lots of the stories in our area.
At the end,
they'll always say,
and we're happy.
Yeah.
Like,
which is just shocks me.
Um,
as you have like,
the most,
harsh conditions on the planet.
And yet, you're like, thankful for it.
Like that Irish guy says, the country's trying to kill you.
Leave.
Follow me.
I'm delicious.
Yeah.
Yes.
No, but so this lake, it's unseated.
When I say that, it's the lake's never been seated with fish.
It's a naturally re, like the fish re-repopulate here on the own.
Yep.
Most other lakes, they've got to be seated with fish.
to keep their population up.
Well, Henry was showing me, you know,
and forgive me, folks.
I'm, you know, like,
Jamie drives me over to the sidelets farm yesterday.
Okay?
Drop them off.
Drops me off.
This is the most Saskatchezing thing ever.
Drops me off.
He's like, I gotta run back to town.
I'm like, okay, when are you coming back?
He's like, I don't know.
I'm like, all right.
And so I get in a side by side with Henry,
and we drive the entire farm for probably two and a half hours.
It was a wonderful tour.
I don't mean to make it sound like it was a long tour.
It was a wonderful tour because there was so much to see.
And he was walking me through where the fish spawn.
And I'm like, this is, like, I can't believe this is in Saskatchewan.
Now, I sound like a moron because I know there's parts of Saskatchewan that have a ton of fish.
I just don't think of the Regina area as that.
You think of it as what, the grain belt and potash, you know, like cattle.
You don't think of fish.
Like, am I wrong in that?
No, you're totally right.
So this lake, because it was so abundant with fish, the natives, you know, wintering down southwest from here where they'd find better weather for the winter, the migrate back this way, they would utilize that fish because they needed the fatty meats and such.
Like it was survival.
And then as they would keep moving to the northeast, the buffalo would come through.
and there's a buffalo there's buffalo jumpsore by Craven and such it was a very important part of the
of the province for well if you got water and you got a food source and there's you go that's a place
we got to remember just like on a camping trip you find a good camping spot cypress hills no mosquitoes
I'm telling you I'm going back because one of the things me to Jamie last night swatting away the
swarm of mosquitoes I'm like man cypress hills is a special spot the the first asians like I mean like come on
They're smart on where track and animals and everything else.
There's a lot of fighting over this area of land, right?
Like so if there's lots of food and there's lots of share, then all the tribes meet there
and then all of a sudden squabbles break up.
If there's not lots of food, then that's part of survival.
But the thing was as settlers came through, they were developing this land.
And I worked in Africa.
and when I was in Africa and I saw all the freaking animals that they got there,
it like dawns on you.
It's like no wonder that when the settlers came through Canada,
they realized they had to kill off the buffalo
because there'd be no agriculture in this country.
If there was millions of buffalo roaming through,
it would not be able to settle the land.
And that's the biggest hindrance in Africa
is that they can't, like,
Like they never managed their wildlife.
And when I was there, like, you know, like poaching elephants and shit like that,
the thing was, it was the actual Africans shooting the elephants because they can't,
they can't grow crops, they can't feed their families when the elephants are coming
through eating everything, right?
So they would actually, they were the ones actually going around killing elephants too,
like so that they could survive themselves.
It's land management is not just weeds and grain.
It's also the livestock that eats the food you're trying to grow.
Well, I showed you the video of the guy getting run over by the Bible in Yellowstone.
Well, hey, and there's a plains grizzly bear that was bigger than the grizzly bears that we got now.
And like, imagine running into one of those on your family picnic.
Like, it would be able to survive on here.
It was tough enough just with the weather.
No, you'd take it down, right?
You'd find a way to take it down.
You got it.
Yeah.
So anyways, the management of the land and making this place a setable place.
Don't you agree, though, the Buffalo probably served in two purposes.
One is like, how are we ever going to plant crops of that thing roaming around?
Millions of them.
Two, it was a food source for the indigenous population.
And to be honest, that food source was replaced with cattle.
So there was in Texas and in the western side of the states during the Civil War, no cattle
went east because of the
because of the war and the first
cattle drive that pushed all the
cattle up into the north up
into Canada was all the
Americans bringing the cattle
north and the Canadian
when they moved into Saskatchewan and Alberta
yep and this this would have been prior to
1905 like this is yeah yeah 17
whatever or 18 whatever
when that Civil War was on
and the Canadian government bought
the cattle to slaughter
to feed you know the the native
that were out here as well as the settlers.
So it's very interesting how we're connected to the United States through that
because a lot of the Americans that came up here,
they actually settled in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
And those Americans were like from Norway, Sweden,
like that part of the world that were settling the west of the United States by that time.
I leave it to Jamie.
I asked about his campground.
Somehow we're light years away from getting to that.
but I'm going to stick on this because I was curious, you know, like in your time in the military,
right now, it feels like there's certain, and maybe there always has been, but right now,
like, there are divisive topics in Canada.
Now, being on the road trip, I feel just partially removed from it, you know, not as connected
to the phone maybe as I once was sitting in the studio trying to stay is up to date on all the craziness,
Canada throws at you.
But First Nations has been very controversial with the Camloops graves,
then the fee simple title in BC.
You know, like from your military standpoint, when you look at that, you know,
and then you talk about the history of coming here and your grandfather
and working with the Indians and like being a real tight-knit community.
When you see all that stuff going on,
or you're like, oh, that's a wedge to divide the population.
And do you think something more different?
Well, I saw it in Africa at first.
So when I was working there, you know, being a Canadian, you know, I wasn't a part of apartheid.
Like, you know, you're human, you're human.
You know, we worked with each other because we both, like both sides, the Africans I had working with me and me working with them.
They needed something for me and I needed something from them.
It was a mutual agreement.
We respected each other.
I didn't push my culture upon them because it's scared to live in shit out of them.
I had Africans and I had no idea about space, space stations or anything.
I showed them the space station with my binoculars one night, and it just blew their mind.
They couldn't understand how people could live in outer space.
Like so, you know, it was just such a culture shock for people to, you know, hear me talk about that.
And then they started calling me a Muzungu after that, which meant white devil.
So I just kept my stuff to myself.
I immerse myself into their culture, trying to learn as much about it as I could,
and live the way that they did, you know, just like when in Rome, be a Roman.
Anyways, getting back to coming back to Canada and seeing the divide that is happening with,
you know, certain people get certain rights and so on and so forth.
And then now with immigration that people are coming here, hey, listen, like, I don't care who you are,
but to immigrate to this country, you should bring something to the table,
and it shouldn't be the taxpayer that has to help you survive.
Like, you should have to come here with an education and a certain amount of money.
And there's Welsh people in this town that immigrated here,
and it cost them $30,000 to get to this country and be citizens
and now, you know, go through immigration the proper way.
And now that I know that there's, you know, immigrants are getting,
$80,000 a year and our seniors are starving in their, in their senior homes and living below
the poverty line.
I'm not okay with that.
And that's got a change.
You should be able to stand on your own two feet just like my grandfather did when he
worked his way across the country to get to the property that he bought.
So if you, and there's a difference between a settler and an immigrant.
Like settlers came here to build and create a culture.
unfortunately our immigrants that some of them that are coming here now are trying to change that
culture and they're they're not here to to try and build anything they're tearing down our
morals and our principles that our veterans fought for so yeah it's it's a crazy time we're
going through i hope alberta can save uh canadian values so uh go alberta going away i guess
as a veteran, I'm voting for that, you know, although I live in Saskatchewan, but
yeah, I hope that our values can be saved somehow and, and that's, if it's got to go
drastically that way, I've been to too many civil wars to see if you don't give people
a chance to vote on something, then it could go terribly wrong and go in the wrong direction
and wouldn't want to see that happen in Canada.
Yeah. Well, I mean...
Again, I threw a twist into it.
Well, I go back to the first time we ever talked.
In 2021, you said something that's stuck with me the rest of COVID,
and it's probably stuck with me ever since then.
And you talked about it always starts with just a little divide.
Right? I was asking about Bosnia and Croatia.
It's like, oh, how to start?
Just always a little divide, us and them.
And I see us and them plots, storylines all over the place.
now and I'm like, man, I could never see it getting to that point.
Well, but then I go back to like COVID, there was an us and of them and they were starting to
demonize the people and you go, you know, everybody remembers the Toronto Star headline.
I remember having the conversation with a couple of my friends who were vaccinated and,
pushing on them, you know, like if my kid got to the hospital just before yours, but he's unvaccinated.
I was shocked at some of the answers that came out of that.
I'm like, maybe we are here.
And then you fast forward.
and you see with independents,
you see E.B. come out and say
they're traitors. And other people start using that language.
And then it was Daniel Smith come out and say,
we're not going to call these people traitors.
Right? And you could see them try and push that.
Like, what do you think happens
when you call a whole group of people traders?
Well, look what David Eby did to that province of L.B.C.
He took a law that was created by the United Nations.
The United Nations is such a corrupt organization.
it's run by third world countries
making laws that now
countries like ourselves
and we believe in
law and we believe in morals and ethics
like the countries that are making these laws
if you actually went to their countries
there's no law there there's no morals and ethics
it's all corruption we believe in the
we believe in being like when I sit back and look at the
Canadian people I could be wrong on this
sit back
And I go, we all want to be nice to one another and everything else.
And for some reason, we think standing firm on an issue is all sudden being in polite.
But when they attack your morals, when they attack the very foundation of civilization,
when they undermine everything you're doing at some point, I mean, we got two-tiered justice system.
We got made killing people, government killing people.
Like, oh, you could just dopped out, whatever you want.
We got property rights under attack.
We got immigration.
everybody's got to justify why they're against immigration.
Well, I'm not a racist.
It's like, of course you're not a racist.
It's like you can see it happening in front of our eyes.
I think Canadians are just ready for the leader just stands up and talks common sense.
But that takes a backbone.
And a backbone is going to be a very uncomfortable place.
Well, that's the problem.
We're so nice.
We're willing to destroy everything we fought for and go back to the Stone Age just so we don't.
So we're nice.
We don't offend anybody.
I don't want to be offensive.
It's like, what are you talking about?
You don't have to say, just because you're against the current immigration plan, you're not racist.
It's like, I'm not racist?
Are you kidding me?
It's just something is going on here.
We all know what's going on.
We all want to talk about it.
They don't want us to talk about it.
They call you a racist if they do.
Well, I mean, in the middle of COVID, if you talked about anything, they called you an anti-vaxxer.
Well, throw another label on me at this point because it's like if we don't talk about these things,
you know, what's going to happen is going to happen.
And a politician will dance and we'll dress it up very nicely, right?
We're going to have a vote on the immigration things this year
because we got to decide if Albertans are against it.
It's like, shut up and do what's supposed to be done.
You know what's supposed to be done.
And yet we got to have a vote on it because we don't know how the Albertans feel.
I think we know how about Bertons feel.
I think we know how Canadians feel.
They could see it happening in their streets.
And the best way to get it over with is like, let's settle us.
Like give the vote, give them a vote.
Let's do it and be fair about it.
And then they'll, then, then you know.
The thing about politics is, it just gets ugly.
I don't know if there's a fair.
Well, there is a fair way.
And it's, it's the way that the, the question was supposed to be yes or no.
Like make it a clear question.
Are we, are you wanting to separate or, or no, like are we separating or not?
And, and if it's a yes, then you.
start the separation and and let albertans be independent of of the what's going on and
on and on you've been you've been all over the world yeah you look at alberta all the bad places
you look at alberta right third largest discovered oil reserve in the world right do you think
they're just going to let that walk jamie i mean and i mean literally the they the giant
money makers elites of the world guess what they uh the rest of the world would not
let, like,
Otto would not be that stupid to try and,
um,
use any type of force.
Like,
like they're,
yes,
they need Alberta to survive.
But guess what?
If,
if Alberta was to leave,
uh,
Canada,
the rest of us would have,
like,
the belt would have to be tightened.
It might be the thing that actually saves it.
Yeah.
So if,
if,
if you truly believe,
in Canada. Let this process happen. If Alberta leaves, and now the rest of us have to figure out
our own shit and tighten the belt and stop all the waste and sending money all over the world,
like when Trump got into power, they were given billions of dollars to Ukraine. So he's like,
this is bullshit. Like Europe's getting paid back, all the money they're given to Ukraine. We're
going to get our money back because, you know, during,
World War II, they did the land lease deal to England so that whatever we sent them, they would get
paid back for. As Canadians, we're retarded by continuously given billions of dollars to Ukraine
and not having a, like getting paid back. Like, it's a, it should be a loan to that country
that pay. We have, we have, we have a, we've had a group of leaders that are destroying our country.
Yeah. Like, they're just, they're throwing the money out the door faster and we, and the people
And then we go, but we're kind and we're nice.
And it's nice.
And you're like, what are you talking about?
We're not taking care of our own.
Well, that isn't kind or nice.
And I've always gone back to China.
I've always gone back to China.
Like, we're so corrupted by China from top down in every level of government in the country.
It's like even that new port that they're building up in the Arctic.
China was going to build the port.
It was too expensive for them to do it.
Carney's going to do it under the, under the,
of, oh, this is going to be a military base,
but it's actually for exporting raw materials from the Arctic
back to China.
And China's the one claiming to be a near Arctic nation now.
Like, it's, like, we're starting to spend money
to help China, you know, take more resources out of this country
instead of us refining our own resources and selling them to China.
Like, where we got the whole fucking system backwards.
like we cut a log a tree down in the forest,
we send it to the states,
they turn it into a couch,
we buy it back for 10 times the price.
Like it doesn't make any sense.
Like during World War II,
we had a million people in the field fighting.
We had, like,
I think there was the population of Canada
was 20 million people or 11 million people.
I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
But we had the second largest Air Force,
third largest Navy.
Everything was built to support.
supply the men in the field and build those ships and aircraft.
Everything was made in Canada.
Nothing was sourced from China or the United States.
Like, we can get back to that if we just, like, stop, like, chasing our own tail,
stop giving money to everybody else and make people go back to work.
Like, we're smart.
We're very industrious.
Like, a lot of Saskatchewan's developed so much shit, like, just through farm.
like the airseaters, air drills, the different types of tractors.
That stuff wasn't invented in Europe or anywhere else.
There's some farmer in his garage.
And if you come Lloyd, you'll see a crazy bunch, a crazy amount of stuff that is developed because of the oil industry.
Even oil industry, like when they went to put out those, all those oil wells that are on fire in, in Kuwait.
Yeah, in Kuwait and Desert Storm 1.
Like those are Canadians.
And a lot of those Canadian oil field guys, guess where they're from?
Fucking Saskatchewan.
Yeah.
Well, where do you come from?
Where the oil industry is?
Because you know what to do with the oil.
And you think of like, once again, I go back to Lloyd, you want a group of entrepreneurial
smart people that look at problems and go solve them and try different things.
Lloyd Minster is it when it comes to oil and gas?
And Saskatchewan when it comes to farming.
Do you know why?
Our NDP government of the time back in the 60s, when Calgary was going to be built.
in Swift Current because it was middle of Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba.
The oil hub was going to be in Swift Current.
Our premier at the time said he wanted a high royalty on oil.
So the oil industry said, no, fuck you, we're going to move to Calgary.
So his response was, you'll never take our resources, like our oil.
Guess what our number one resource is is our people.
Our people fucking left just as fast as that.
as those Alberta oil companies
and set up in Calgary.
It's just shocking to me.
It's just stupidity and greed.
Yeah, or ego.
Oh, totally.
Like the human part of the leadership thing
just makes.
But you would have saw that in military too, right?
Like, I mean, you did.
And that that's at the highest level, in my opinion,
of like human life where men died because of stupidity.
And I'm sure there's stories from the military
where you're just like, that a guy is not fit for.
I had a 500 pound bomb dropped on me.
because I spotted an enemy motor position.
My boss, and this is the truth, I said,
no, I want to take my sniper rifle on this mission
because I knew the ground and I knew what we were going to get into.
He decided that I should take the machine gun.
So I'm like, you're kidding me.
And there's a big story about that.
I'm not going to get into it.
Anyways, if I would add my sniper rifle,
I would have killed the guy.
I would be able to shoot those two dudes.
No bomb gets dropped.
Yep, no bomb gets dropped.
I would have been able to protect the platoon better to the right of us,
which were being mortared by the guys that were shooting the mortar.
And you were trained on the sniper rifle.
Well, I was trained on it all.
I know, I know, but like, you know, when I'm sitting, talk to Chuck,
he's like, you want to learn about long-distance shooting.
You should talk to Jamie.
Well, that was many years ago, but I could still, I can still squeeze a train.
I just mean, but back in the day, you know, like you were the long-distance man.
Yep, I did some good-shund.
So as a leader putting you in with a machine,
gun. Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Yeah. And then the chain even got worse. So I spotted the enemy position. I gave a bearing
in a direction and a distance to my platoon officer to call it in for artillery. And then once
it got to that next level of command, some pilot running low on fuel, an American in a F-18,
or in a war dog, he decided to come in and drop his bombs so he could, you know, get a kill or whatever.
but he dropped his bombs on us instead of the enemy,
which were 75 meters away from us.
So it was just one bad leadership decision after another,
and it could have got a bunch of people killed.
And that happens constantly.
And yeah, it's something you got to get over and move on.
But those kind of mistakes, they're so easily fixed.
So Canadians need to just pull up their bridges
and tighten the belt and let's get to work type thing is the Sinclair method.
And I mean, obviously, Alberta is doing that.
Yeah, and that doesn't come from the top down.
Like, great leadership starts from the people on the ground
that figure out a way to make something workable or work.
And then a really good leader will identify that
and encourage what they're doing,
give them the resources they need to keep moving forward.
And then take that method that was created by some guy,
the left flank and spread
the word to everybody else that
are there and say hey listen it's working for
these guys you might want to give it a try
here's the resources you're going to need to
make it happen and get going
like get the fuck out of the way
let the people do their shit it's one
of the things I liked about Henry Sr.
is when he was talking about building the
schools they originally told him no
and I'm like the government told you no
and you kept going wow and I'm like
that's good to hear that's good for
people here our community wouldn't have a
if it wasn't for him.
Yeah.
And we had some great people in our community as well.
And, and, uh, but, but it was the people on the ground that realized what they needed.
And, and Henry was.
Well, in a time they're closing, I think he said 100 to 104 schools somewhere in there,
like small, uh, one-room schoolhouses in a time where they're consolidating and
everything's moving into the bigger centers.
Like, you can imagine in a small rural setting, you're going, the days are numbered.
And then the story of Henry said, like,
says, you know, they found ways to push back.
Government says no.
And they just found ways anyways.
And now they have thriving schools that are still going.
Well, you know.
Our school is so important to our community here.
Like, and listen, like, it's a beautiful school.
And our community is 100% behind what's going on there.
We have Amber.
She's amazing.
She, you know, she fundraised through getting grants to plant more tree.
and such.
And we got irrigation in our school,
but they wouldn't turn it on.
So I've been talking with our school board
and with the guy in charge of maintenance and such.
And, you know, at first the conversation wasn't as pleasant.
Like, it started off pleasant,
but then it was like, okay, well, this might not happen.
But now I can see that, you know,
he's actually trying to help us and work with us.
Thank God.
And, you know, right now we've got to.
volunteers that are going there on our own time the water of the plants out front and the tap
doesn't work on the outside of the building and and then you know we got irrigation for our for our
sports field which looks amazing it's what you see when you drive into town so now that you know
it's looking better because they're turning that irrigation on um you know i i i at the campground
we got miles of water lines to blow out every year so i'm going to volunteer my time to go
and blow out the water lines in the fall.
And if you've never been to Regina Beach,
it kind of feels like that little resort town,
but it's in the middle of Saskatchewan, right?
You pop over a hill and there it is and you're like, huh,
I didn't see that.
And I was teasing Jamie today because we're riding around to golf cart
and to give the audience member an idea.
So I ride around with Jamie for the last two plus days.
And everywhere he goes, he knows every single person.
and so we walk into the you know grab a coffee this morning and this you know a nice little conversation
guy walks in he knows him and everywhere he goes he knows everybody and I'm like at some point are you
just going to run for mayor right like I mean mayor jimmy or jim sinclair we got a good mayor right now
yeah you don't need to step in just yet but i got i could uh i could highly endorse a mayor jim sinclair
that'd be uh no we got a good council right now they they've like turned our main street around
sure well i mean once again
And if you've never been to Regina Beach, heck, I'd never even heard of it before.
Now, it's a diamond and rough.
Guess what?
Here's the best thing about Regina Beach.
It's 30 minutes away from an international airport.
It's got a great school K to 8.
It can go to K to 12 so it can get, it could go to a grade 12.
Sure.
Get the population behind it.
I've donated land to the, to the both towns if they decide to build a hockey rink.
And there's, you know, there's rumblings about doing something like that.
which would be amazing.
What would they be called, the Regina Beach?
Well, so there's...
What's the team name?
Well, we would be part of the Lums and Bethune minor hockey because Lums, like, we're so full.
Like, we need a third rank.
So right now it's Lums and Bethune.
And then Regina Beach would be the third part of the triangle.
And they do that on the east side of Regina.
So there's White City, Belgoni, and Pallibu, and Pallibu.
And they're the Prairie Storm.
So we would still be the Lums and Bethune, whatever that hockey.
division would be called.
Gotcha.
And now we've got a three-legged triangle to stand upon that that was going to support more
growth in the support of hockey.
And it just makes your, makes your town explode.
So there's different ways of funding it.
I came up with some ideas that went over like a stone boat at the town council.
But, um, well, you got to dream big.
Well, yeah.
And I mean, the thing, the, my, my mind.
idea was, is that we're the only part that doesn't take a fee for people to come and visit.
So there's technology out there now.
As you drive by a camera, it sends you a text message saying, hey, it's going to cost you
$5 to be in town for the day.
You know, you just fill it out on a lot, like on your phone.
And that $5 goes towards the community, like a community rink.
Like it wouldn't cause, there's no doing a doctor, be.
There's no doing like knocking on doors.
Although the Duck Derby suite.
Yeah, that's a, I love, I supported the, I still support the Duck Derby.
I've been doing it for 15 years.
But anyways, you're not having to do that because the people are coming out here.
And people are going to spend five bucks that come into town for a day.
If you live here, it knows your license plate, it's not going to charge you $5 a day.
Yeah, very programmable.
It's very, and the big pushback was, and the other thing what it did.
does, it secures your community because we're one way in, one way out. So now anybody that's
coming out here for bad reasons, they're not going to come out here because they know that
their license plate has been detected. If they're stealing, if it's a stolen car, the cops,
you're going to know where you are. If you're here to do something bad, they'll know what's the,
what's the pushback on? Well, they're like, well, how can you secure our town? Like in the wintertime,
we can drive across the lake. I'm like, the amount of people driving across the lake is minimal.
It's like maybe especially for five bucks.
If it was a $5 fee, if it was a $150 fee, all of a sudden people.
There's ice heaps everywhere.
Nobody's driving across.
How much you think that would raise in here?
Oh, like, like upwards to $300,000 a year.
Yeah, so you think, you know, you want to get a rink built.
Like there's 10,000 people that come out here on a weekend.
You know, there's three communities involved.
There's canoe come off.
Regina Beach, Bita Vista.
So they've got people that come to visit.
Regina Beach, just when the weather's nice,
there's hundreds of people come out from Regina.
That's why it's called Regina Beach.
This town was 50 people.
And the police department or a fire department.
The train would roll in.
2,000 people would get out for the weekend.
And the place was hopping.
There was two or three dance clubs,
like back in the day with the old bands.
And they had like, they had wagon, the old Ferris wheel,
or not Ferris wheel, like paddle boats who go up and down the lake.
Like there was all kinds of business going on in this community back in the 20s, right?
Yeah.
It was huge.
Well, I mean, your proximity to Regina makes sense that this would be a hopping spot.
And when it costs like a gazillions of dollars like you know to pull a trailer all over the goddamn country,
it's just easier to come to Regina Beach.
You got your campsite.
It's set up or you got your cottage and you pack up and go home and you're,
30 minutes away.
Yeah.
Like my boy's going into hockey school next week.
I can be at the beach and still have my kid go to hockey school and come back to the
beach for the rest of the day.
Like, you know, you can't do that.
Back in Lloyd Minster, that's Sandy Beach, right?
It's 15 minutes north, right?
It's the same idea.
Just this is a giant lake that had, you know, industry and fished.
It's 90 miles long.
It's rated number one in North America for prickrow fishing.
Like it's, it's an insane lake, like, you know.
I'm just, and the view from Henry Sr.'s side, it was unbelievable.
Yeah. If this, if this was in Alberta, this, like, it would turn into Sylvan Lake.
Yeah.
It would be.
Yeah, and, and, yeah, careful what you wish for, because it's, it's, it's pretty cool the way it is right now.
Yeah.
You know, of course you want it to grow.
Well, it wouldn't be, it wouldn't have the population of Sylvan Lake, because we only got a million people in the province, right?
Like there's five million people like close to Silver Lake.
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
Okay, I'm going back to the original question.
What was it?
I forget.
Well, I want to talk about your campground because I come into your campground.
It's a private campground, right?
So you can't just roll in.
So I don't know.
If somebody's driving through and they want to come stay in at your campground,
I assume they just call.
Yep.
Right?
You got a book.
It's not like you just roll in.
It's not a provincial partner.
where you can just roll in the gates are wide open and pick a spot.
And I know it's not that easy, but it's not that hard either.
Here it's a little different.
Yep.
No, we've got, so I'm going to say this and I hear this from people that travel like yourself
across the country and go campground to campground.
I honestly believe that Regina Beach Campground is the best campground in the province.
And it's not because of our amenities.
It's not because our sites are super huge.
It's not because of the play structures or anything like that.
The number one thing that we've got in our campground
that makes it the best is the people.
And it's just like anything else,
any other thing in the world.
If you've got great people,
you got a great environment to be in.
And people come here,
they get into their golf cart,
they park their car,
they don't have to drive anywhere.
with their vehicle, they go everywhere with their golf cart.
Their kids get on their pedal bikes and they're gone until suppertime.
It's like being back in the 70s.
You know, the kids just free, rain it out here.
They all behave.
And if there is any trouble, other people give them the gears.
And they know not to do anything bad, right?
Because their parents will find out.
And then they take care of it.
And the way that I look at myself as being part of that whole,
environment is that I get out of the way of the people.
Like if they want to do something, there's a building code.
They follow the building code.
They build it to the specs that are on the code.
They take care of their own property.
They cut their own grass.
They turn their own trees.
I just let them be.
And I think it's different than other campgrounds I've been in.
because, you know, lots of people or lots of campgrounds say have like, I don't know,
even let's say 50 seasonals.
Walk me, because how many sites do you have in your campground?
There's 170 sites here.
13 of them are overnighters.
The rest are seasonal spots.
So what I did a few years ago is I was doing my will and I wanted to, you know,
have a succession plan and the worst thing that came up.
as, you know, I was talking to somebody, you know, anyways, they're like, well, what,
what happens if you all die in the same car accident?
And it's like the most horrific thing ever to think about.
And then I'm like, okay, well, what, what would happen to the estate, right, to the farm?
And it's, it'll be like, well, there's going to be people trying to contest or to, you know,
take control of the estate.
I'm like, so the first thing you think of is like, well, what's going to happen to my campers?
Like the people that are in the campground.
And they're like, well, they could be denied entry into the property until it goes to the courts.
Well, how long could that be?
Well, it could be up to two years.
So imagine you've got a camper that you're not, you can't even go into legally.
And the water lines freeze up over the winter, you know, because people would, they would be asked to leave.
be like the police would come and kick everybody out and now you can't get onto the property to
winterize your stuff so it's like you're setting up people for failure so I'm like well how do I
protect the campers like how do I put something into my will saying that they have access or whatever
and it's like well the best thing that you can do is give them ownership like let them have ownership
and then like most professional campgrounds they they have control of of their progress
property. So that's what I did. I sold off half of the sites to the campers so they could have
access. There's a board now. They run the campground the way they see fit. And so they're the
ones that actually are in control of the campground now. So the Regina Beach Campground just gets
paid to do the maintenance and I'm part of the maintenance group. So that's that's how simple.
So when you walk through that, like that's what's different about driving around here.
I actually stopped and talked to one of the guys because if Mel and I were sitting there
driving around, Jamie was kind enough to give us his golf cart for the day, which the kids loved.
And so we were driving around and I was like, like, did they just get to build whatever they want?
And I'm like, wow, the next camper I see, I'm just going to pull over.
I'm like, if they're in Jim's campground, I'm like, I'm sure they're going to be quite friendly.
And I wasn't wrong.
So I pulled up and just started to ask them all these different questions.
and it was really interesting, right?
And then we toured on and we went into not every nook and cranny,
but we went and explored and seen what people had done.
Because, like, you know, you think you have a camper.
And when the season's done, you know, you've got to winterize it
and you've got to find a place to store it.
Well, none of these people move there,
they just leave everything there.
They winterize it on the spot.
And then, you know, as you say, mowing their own grass,
taking care of their own yards.
I'm like, this is, like, really interesting.
It's a very small community.
feel in a but gated community right because nobody can just come in right like the gates are locked
you got to have a pass to get in or a code to get in whatever and the beautiful thing about that is
when when you're out here um yes you can build a deck and and be able to set your lawn chairs out there
and and and um or you could just have like grass and you cut your own grass or some people just
crush rock their whole yard and they just pull out their lawn chairs and sit on that like
You can do one extreme to the other.
Yeah.
And it's whatever the hell you want to do.
You just do it.
But it's got to,
you got to maintain it.
It's got to look good, right?
And they do that just out of pride.
Like, I don't have to go around telling people to do anything.
Like, and the less.
Well, because they have ownership.
Well, yeah.
Right?
It's like, I hate to bring this up, but it's how the government should act.
You know, the government shouldn't get in a way of people trying to make their property better.
Or like, you know, if you make your property nice,
you've got to pay more taxes.
Like that's just not good governments.
So if government got out of the way of people,
I'm sure our country would be way better off,
just like the campers are.
I feel that they enjoy their freedoms to do what they want,
as long as within reason and within codes.
And it's important.
It's important just to let people enjoy themselves.
Tell me about your event coming up at the end of,
the month here because by the time this podcast releases you're going to have I don't know 10 days 12
days something like that before your big event here at the campground walk people through this
like if they're in the area or they're passing through can they just show up how do they do things
and and basically what the event is well it's our it's our annual get together um willie mcdonald
and myself been doing it for 10 years and uh bringing veterans in it's it's it's
it's a it's a mental health thing but it's also just it's just good to get together as a group of men
that fought together in Afghanistan but it went from task force Orion to we got a you know firemen
that came from the humble bus crash to retired police officers that had gone through traumatic
stuff and they come here because they're surrounded by like-minded people and it just you're you feel
you feel at home when when you can
either talk about certain
things or not talk about certain
things and people are there to
support you but also tease the shit out of you too
you know like there's some good ripping that goes on right
but yeah if
that and then it
this was getting discussed last year
we're preparing for the 20th
or the 20th anniversary of Task Force
Orion and this
monster of a man found out
about what we're doing
and his name's Carl Fix.
And he's like, this is amazing
because we're trying to bring the families here
so that we could get them in touch with the people
that were around their kids
or their loved ones when they got killed.
So it kind of closes a loop
that Canada has been terrible at doing
and reintegrating the families
into the regiments
so that they're always welcome
and they always understand
that they've got,
they got a place to go to to feel you know the presence of their of their loved ones and so anyways
Carl just grabbed the horns he went and got a bunch of big big people that that are in our
province to to donate money for travel and for things like that we we built this stage for he's got
like 11 bands coming so he organized all those bands so we needed a stage this year so winds or
Plywood, you know, they, they sponsored.
Windsor Plywood and Lloyd Minster sponsors the show.
Windsor Plywood's been a great company for me.
Shout out to Carly and his team in Lloyd.
It's brand, brandy note here, but anyways, just amazing, like the stuff that people.
I got to walk it with you the first night.
I'm like, this is pretty incredible.
Yeah, it's incredible site management doing what they did.
And, you know, we got Moose Man construction here.
Shout out to Josh.
He came with his crew and stood up all the poles.
and just people, like, there's so many to name,
and I don't want to leave anybody out.
But, yeah, just the support is insane.
And so, yeah, and it's all about reconnecting.
I just want to talk about that one line.
Yeah.
The support is insane.
Yeah.
Since we left on this road trip,
the support has been nothing short of insane.
And I just don't know where to square that away in my brain
because I'm just, like, ridiculously moved by people,
You know, like, I don't want to single anyone out, so I'll just say on the text line, you know,
I've been probably talking about it almost every podcast or every third podcast or whatever,
and lots of people have been saying, we just want to see you succeed.
And I'm like, or you're our line to like the, you know, the way canned really is or something along that lines.
And I'm like, it's just so moving, Jamie.
And when you say that line about what you're doing here and trying to bring the families back and close the circle and like, you know, 20 years.
and, you know, the support that's coming because of that.
I'm like, I just get that.
And I don't know where to, I just don't, you don't have any,
I don't have any words for it.
Well, Willie and I had found out about this 10 years ago.
Like the first one we did, you know, we didn't know what to expect.
Anyways, after that, after that weekend, and everybody that was there.
And seeing people close the loop, like we had guys that were killed and they had no idea
why the battle went that way.
and now we got soldiers talking to the to people that are in command and they're like hey listen
this is what happened and this is why and now that soldier walks away knowing that okay then
everything was done right and and so-and-so lost his life for this reason and and it wasn't because
of somebody not doing their job right or whatever it was like so we knew we hit gold and that's
why we kept doing it and that's why you know now eventually we're in the
situation and it's a one time like I'm I'm sure we're not going to get the support like we are this
year for next year yeah well if the S&P road trip left for five years I don't think it would get the
same support every year you're you struck gold too you're you're doing the right thing and people
want to support you and it's it's amazing and and I'm just like big red when you found out
your recovery is like you got to bring them up for you like let the kids swim in the pool and
I'll show it's big red and and Cindy for letting us come over and and uh you
You know, I keep joking about the Newman tornado.
It descended.
It ate up the food.
It swam the pool dry.
And then it moved on, right?
Like, yeah, the kindness of people has been really cool.
And I keep seeing it everywhere I go with the podcast because I run in, like, you talk about the people in your campground.
You've met the people, you're part of it, but you've met the people in the podcast community when they show up to the cornerstone or other events.
And, you know, like the mash feel and.
The best thing about your cornerstone is the Saskatchewan Bush party.
I'm just going to be honest.
Just going to be honest.
And next year, listen, listen, next year you can't wait to announce the Bush party.
Okay, okay, yes, yes, yes.
People leave for supper and they don't come back.
You realize this year I had to get a liquor license.
I had to do like a whole bunch of different things.
It sucks being successful, doesn't it?
But you know what?
You know what I liked about the Weston?
The staff there, when I was leaving,
at like 1130 and I said I told Jim they got to be out of here by I can't remember if it was one or two
they said no later and you were looking at me and going uh-huh like Jim yeah and and so anyways
I walk out of the staff and I was explained to him and he goes it's all good and I'm like no no
but they get and he's like no it's all good sir don't worry about it I'm like all right I think
I'm in pretty good hands and they were they were extremely I know you guys are going to be
good, but they were extremely, like, understanding.
So that was pretty cool, too.
The security staff had a big breakdown of communication,
because when we eventually left, and I don't know what time it was,
but when we eventually left, I'm like, okay, we got to do cleanup.
The security guard note he told me, he's like, nope, I got this.
You guys just get out of here, I'll lock the doors.
So I'm like, are you sure?
Like, because we had guys that wanted to clean up.
He's like, he wanted us out of there.
So anyways, everybody left.
the next morning I'm like
fuck that guy I don't trust him
so I went back up there
and I could see through the crack
in the door that there was fucking
beer bottle there was chaos in there
it was like holy fuck that guy lied to me
so I jimmie rigged
the door open like I broke
into the place and I fucking
cleaned up all the beer bottles
and fucking got her all cleaned up
and then like
I don't know who showed up
who was having the conference in there later
Matt era.
Yeah, anyways, fucking, I closed it all up,
and then I find out there's going to be a conference in there.
I was like, oh, fucking, thank God,
we got that place cleaned up for,
you guys showed up there.
Newman would have killed me.
I probably would have.
Well, I'm glad you, I'm like, you broke into the West
and to clean it up.
I think they'll let that slide.
Well, it wasn't too hard.
It wasn't like, fucking.
Yeah, I know.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Okay, is there anything else on the camera?
You want to make sure people know or the event coming up.
Well, I, I want to talk.
No, no.
So I want to get back to like like about the, it's called the Patricia Howell this year.
It's free camping for anybody who wants to come.
You're not going to have any power or water.
So pretend like it's Craven.
It starts July 31st.
Our lieutenant governor is going to be here.
She's going to do the opening ceremony.
We'll pipe her in.
We got Blaine McLean.
or MLA, God bless his soul.
He's coming to sing Oh,
Canada, which is going to be amazing.
Then we start off with like three bands
at first night.
And then the second night, there's four bands.
That'll be on the 1st of August.
And then the second of August, which is a Sunday,
we start off the morning on the point.
We do a church parade.
So we'll have the Piper down there.
We'll have the church parade.
Yeah, we do a church parade down on,
the point.
We go down there.
The Padre will have church for us.
It's amazing place.
It sounds amazing.
Oh, it is.
It's beautiful.
We got the Piper will be there and also the Sartre Major that plays taps and such on the horn.
He's awesome.
So he'll be, he'll do, he'll do for Revelli and first posts and all that.
Then we, then that's an hour.
Then we go back to the campground.
then we start the bands back up.
And the last band is going to be Fogdog.
Amazing, amazing singer, amazing band.
They're great.
Everybody knows them around Saskatchewan here.
So yeah, no, come on out.
It's a free concert.
Like you don't have to pay to get in.
It's free for everybody.
Because the reason soldiers go fight for Canada
isn't because Ottawa sent us.
It's because we believe in the environment
that's been created by the people of this country,
and we fight for our values.
And so by having soldiers mixed with people
that just do the day-to-day stuff,
which create our environment or our beautiful values
and culture that we got,
it's a perfect match.
And it's going to be a great time.
There's going to be all kinds of soldiers there,
and there's going to be all kinds of people that show up,
and we're just going to have a lot of fun.
And, yeah, no, it's, it's,
Something worth coming to see, and it's going to be a good time.
The dates of that again?
July 31st.
Got to be here for like 5.30.
Everything starts at 6, and it goes right until the third.
There's no entertainment on the 3rd.
It's just a free day to hang out at the beach or travel home.
So, yep, it's the whole long weekend.
Okay.
And then the two questions I've been asking everybody,
You've kind of already answered the first one, but I'll rehash it if you'd like.
It's just your thoughts on Alberta Independence.
They got a referendum coming off October 19th.
It's a question I'm going to ask all the guests here in the lead-up to it as I go across Canada.
I'm very curious what some Canadians further east of us think.
But regardless, if you want to chime in on Alberta independence.
Well, I remember when in Quebec was going to separate and I was a soldier then, I didn't like the idea at all.
I was in support of Quebec staying with inside of Canada, but I was young and foolish at that time, right?
So if Quebec can have a say and try and have a vote to stay or to go, to me, as a soldier at the time, I was thinking, well, this is democracy, this is how it's supposed to be.
you know what I mean like it it's it's the proper way to to resolve any conflict
because I've been to too many civil wars and when they don't get a choice to say
by the ballot box they'll figure out a different way to do it and and I never want to see
that happen and I'm not like I'm not I'll never condone violence in our in our beautiful
country so if Alberta wants to do the same thing as Quebec did I see no reason why
that they can't have a legitimate question to stay or to go
and give the people to say and let them decide the course of where they want to go.
That's the best way through this whole chaotic environment
is not to try and stifle it or start calling them names and such
because then things get ugly.
Just let them have their vote,
and I support them because I feel that Alberta is going to save Canadian values.
the values that they that they're trying to stand up for is what we fought for as veterans and
Ottawa when they're saying that other other cultures are Canadian cultures I disagree that
because I've lived on those other cultures I believe our Canadian cultures is very unique
because it's it's been created by people that immigrated here and and had to forget about
the fighting they used to do in Europe
because Catholics would fight Protestants,
Protestants would fight the Church of England.
And when they moved to Canada,
and they realized, okay, we can leave all that behind us.
Let's create an environment for our kids all go to school together.
And we can work together in our communities
and get our crops off.
You might be a Catholic.
I'm a Protestant, but we're going to help each other survive.
And that's how our values came from.
is leaving all that shit behind them.
I see that stuff coming into our country now from other parts of the world,
and they're not leaving the past in the country that they left.
They're bringing those conflicts here.
And we see it in the streets.
We see the...
You go back to the first conversation you ever had, once again,
the first time you and Henry came up,
you told me about your idea of Western and Eastern Canada.
And when you say Alberta might be able to save Canadian values,
it also gets closer to the idea I first heard five years ago and I thought, oh, that's an interesting idea.
You're talking about there's a natural divide of West and East and maybe we should just go our separate ways.
I'm probably putting it in too simplistic of terms for what James actually said.
But, you know, that's back in 2021 when that idea first got tossed on.
Tews will be mad at me if I don't say the first time he was on, he talked, you know, about Alberta separatism.
And certainly it wasn't the first time I'd heard the idea, but you were one.
championing of Western Canada because of the values that were shared.
Yeah, the values are important.
Like, and everybody keeps talking about the economic reasons for independence.
It's not what motivates me.
No, me neither.
I'm not saying it isn't important.
I'm just saying, like, to me.
Values are what are important.
And like, people didn't go fight for money.
Like, when I was in the Army as a private, I was getting $700 a month.
No, I wasn't.
fighting for a paycheck.
When I went and played hockey over in Finland,
I didn't go there because I was getting a million bucks.
I got a hundred fifty euro a month,
a place to lay my head and three square meals a day,
which was actually pretty good in as much ice time as I wanted.
Yeah.
And I,
you know,
so like,
it's funny,
you,
I wanted that.
Yeah.
I chose to go there for all the,
you know,
all the right reasons.
Yeah.
And that's,
and that's what's compared to the military once again.
I always do this with you and I always,
You know, obviously I wasn't going off and risking my life.
So, yeah, no, it's the values are what I feel are worth fighting for.
And if they want to fight for those values, I support them 110%.
And I just hope that, you know, it goes, it should go to a vote and it should be an honest and fair election.
One final question then for you.
Yes, yeah, shoot away.
Well, we're on the S&P road trip.
We're going across Canada.
And we've already, you know, like every campsite we go to, the kids don't want to leave, right?
They're always, you know, just beside themselves.
And it's been super cool.
You as a father or maybe going back to your childhood,
is there a favorite camping road trip story that you can think of that you're like sticks out?
Well, we used to do family reunions up in Roe's Reney on the same lake.
and I was always a scrawny little kid
and all my cousins were bigger in me
so I remember playing soccer
and everybody was like
you know it was full contact cousin soccer
and sounds fun
anyways I used to wear
like cowboy boots as a kid
but I had to wear running shoes
to play soccer and anyways
I was getting bullied around out there
so I come running back
and I'm crying and I'm all pissed off.
And I kicked off my running shoes.
I put on my cowboy boots.
And then I went back out onto that field with my cousins
that were all bullied me around.
And I didn't even care where the ball was.
I just started kicking everybody right in the shins.
So it was, I think, about that day.
And, like, you know, the fun that we had as kids, like, you know,
and then resolving problems.
And, oh, there were just great times, like, just to be a kid to rip around and have fun and be with your friends and make new friends at campgrounds.
Like, yeah, it was a lot of fun out there.
And I hope people can go back to their childhood in a way and sit around a bonfire and cook marshmallows and think about being seven again.
So, yeah, I'm proud of what you're doing.
And I wish you all the best on the road.
Well, I appreciate you of putting us up.
And, you know, if the kids, as they pulled in, Casey, he's sitting there, and he's like, where are we at?
And then as soon as we pulled in, he already said, I remember this place.
And he was looking for the big military track.
And I was chuckling.
I'm like, you're becoming a core memory for my children, which is something to think on, you know?
Yeah, that's cool.
Because, like, and Dan Plumer, if you're listening, you know, like, we stopped at his ranch on the way to Cyprus Hills.
and I probably didn't talk about it enough,
but the kids remembered the horses,
because he always has horses,
and I chuckle because sometimes I'm like,
Dad might be biting off more than he thought,
because once we get there,
the three kids almost boss them around.
Like they just want on the horses,
and then he's out there,
and, you know, he's taking them all over the place,
and it's just they're becoming,
those stops are becoming core memories for my children.
I can see it happening,
because they're so excited to be back,
because they don't get to experience that anymore.
Heck, leaving the last spot, they're all upset.
And I'm like, yeah, but we had to go see the big military truck next.
Like, oh, yeah, right.
And this time is going to be different because, like, they got big reds pool.
Yeah.
And they're down to lake all day with your wife yesterday.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Like, they're getting, uh, it's almost, you know, like, I remember our camp camping trips
in the different spots we stopped.
And they're like so much fun.
It's just with the podcast different because I, I'm stopping with people that.
I've got to really know.
And it's kind of odd sensation, but really cool because it's like you go a few hours and then,
you know, like you think about it.
After we leave today, we're stopping where quick tick, pick is.
And I've actually been there before.
Say hi to him for me.
Yeah, well, I think all of Saskatchewan says hi to them, you know, everywhere I go and they hear
them going there.
They're like, make sure you tell them I say hello.
I'm going to tell them Saskatchewan says hello.
It's just, you know, and then there's another stop.
And then there's another stop.
In Manitoba, I get to meet up with Peter, a shout out to Peter, and he's going to show me around.
I get to run into Josh Len Berziak, right, Sundance Construction on Twitter or X, if you follow her.
And like, this is what I wanted out of it.
There's lots of people that aren't like Jim where I get to run into you lots, and you always come to the studio.
There's lots of people that I've only got to know through the screen.
And now my kids get to kind of come into that world.
It's been a very interesting first couple weeks as we get to.
this thing rolling. I'll be very curious, you know, when we're hitting the triple digits of being
on the road. That'll be interesting. It was fun with Henry and Terry last night. Terry going like,
have fun. Like, I'm really interested. All the women are like, good luck. They're almost like hugging you.
Like you're off on a deathly mission where you might not come back. I'm like, we're going to be okay.
She's like, uh, yeah, I just want to make sure. Like, yeah, we'll be thinking of. Yeah, I'm like,
yeah, yeah, I think we're going to be okay, you know. I don't know. Yeah, no, that's, it's, it's, the stuff
of your kids are going to learn.
Like, they're going to be light years ahead of other kids when it comes to,
uh,
uh,
friendships,
uh,
resolving conflict,
uh,
learning how to learn.
Starting conflict.
Yep.
That's all part of it too.
But,
but like just how to like soak in what's around them and adapt to the
environment that they're in.
Like,
it's,
it's,
the growth is going to be amazing.
Like they're going to,
like this is something they'll be thinking of.
They'll take their kids on the same trip.
like or they'll want to like you're you're you're going to do something amazing for your family well
jamie i thank you for again for having us in and showing us uh uh around again and and lining things up
and taking us all over the place and treat my kids like they're your kids to be honest and uh just
appreciate being here because as i told chuck a week ago you know like it's going to be a year in
theory yeah before we do this again and shout out to chuck and uh and to willie for that matter
Not Willie.
Usually, you know, we try and get the guys together.
But I guess, you know, I shouldn't say that.
The mashup is still alive and you become a fixture of the mashup.
I'm going to be on the mashup every Friday until this.
Until it goes.
Well, then in that case, I'll see you very shortly because I'll be doing the mashup from,
well, I don't know, will it be Minnesota?
I'm spacing on the timeline here of where thou all irons out.
But I will get you to see you there.
But either way, thanks for having me in and all the whole.
hospitality. We look forward to it. And to any
listener out there that wants to come to Regina Beach,
make sure to look up Jamie. If nothing
else for our coffee. There's been a few that have come
just from the Cornerstone. And yeah,
it's been awesome having them
come through and it's been amazing.
Yeah. But hey, listen, I love you, man.
I love your family and I wish you all the best.
And you always got a place to come back and hang your hat.
Appreciate that, Jim. You know, I think
highly of you as well. And until we do this again, sir.
Yep. Yeah.
