Shaun Newman Podcast - #1130 - The Allison Inquiry Day 4

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

The Allison Inquiry opened September 8, 2026 on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, as Conservative MP Dean Allison convened an independent, citizen-organized hearing so Canadian lawmakers could listen to people reporting COVID-19 vaccine injuries and loss. More than 1,400 Canadians applied to testify; a smaller group of selected witnesses began sharing sworn personal stories after opening remarks, with U.S. Senator Ron Johnson among those who spoke. Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Nor’East Apothecary - USE promo code SNP for 15% off your orderhttps://thepowerofplants.ca/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

Good morning and welcome to the fourth and final day of the Allison Inquiry. To everyone joining us here in Ottawa and to those watching us online across Canada and around the world, thank you for being with us. Over the past three days, we've heard testimony that has been difficult, emotional, and at times deeply troubling. We began this inquiry with one simple commitment to listen, to listen to Canadians who were injured following the COVID-19 vaccination, to give them an opportunity to tell their stories, to document what happened to them, to hear their challenges of accessing the vaccine injury support program.

Yesterday, once again, we heard why that commitment matters. We heard from a former fire chief, someone who had spent her career serving and protecting others. She described from going to being healthy and active to struggling to walk. We heard the story of a former parliamentarian staffer, a husband and a father who was taken far too soon, leaving behind his wife and young children. Behind every statistic is a person.

Behind every person is a family. And behind every family is a story that deserves to be heard. We heard from a former World Health Organization employee who has spent more than a quarter million dollars of her own money trying to regain her health. Think about that for a moment. A quarter of a million dollars. Once again, we were reminded that for some of those who were injured,

the consequences are not only physical, that it can affect careers, finances, marriages, families, independence, and virtually every aspect of a person's life. We also heard evidence raising serious questions about early safety signals. When were they identified? What was known and whether those signals received the attention they warranted? Those are questions that deserve answers. And we heard concerns that some safety signals continue to be dismissed

or insufficiently investigated today. Throughout this inquiry, another theme has emerged again and again. The injured are helping the injured. When people feel and felt they could not find answers elsewhere, they found one another. They shared information, they helped each other navigate the medical system,

they supported families, and they even raised money. And perhaps most importantly, they reminded one another that their voices mattered. Yesterday we heard from a brave young woman who simply would not take no for an answer. When the doors were closed, she kept knocking. When she felt she wasn't being heard, she kept asking and kept speaking. When the system didn't provide the answers that she was looking for, she kept pushing.

There is something important in that determination. People should not have to fight simply to be hurt. We also heard from two healthy active young people, just 23 and 24 years old, who experienced myocarditis, heart damage, and the loss to actually move freely. Whatever one's views on COVID-19 vaccination, when young, young Canadians experience serious medical events following vaccination. Their cases deserve careful investigation, appropriate medical care, care, and compassion.

Acknowledging people who report injuries should never be controversial. And finally, we heard from an Ottawa police officer who was punished for doing what she believed was her job. Her testimony raises a broader question about what happens to people who ask questions, challenged decisions or attempted to act accordingly to the professional responsibilities during an extraordinary difficult period in our country's history. Over these four days, we have heard from people with every very different backgrounds, firefighters, police officers, healthcare professionals, government employees, parents, young people, business owners, people who are athletes, and people who simply consider themselves healthy and active. While their circumstances are different, many of the stories contain the same themes.

They became sick, they searched for answers, they struggled to find help, and too often they felt nobody was listening. That is one of the most important lessons I will take away from this week. While we may disagree about public policy, we may even disagree about decisions made during the pandemic, we may disagree about the vaccines, but we surely can agree on this. When Canadians say they've been injured and are asking for our help, our first response should be compassion, not dismissal. More than 1,400 Canadians applied to appear before this. inquiry, we can only hear from a fraction of them during these four days. To those we could not hear from, I want you to know. Your stories still matter. We want your stories to be documented.

We want your voices to be heard. And the fact that you do not sit in the witness chair does not make what you happen to you any less important. For three days, Canadians have entrusted us with extraordinary personal stories. Today, on our final day, we owe them the same thing we promised them that they're beginning. Our attention, our respect, and our willingness to listen. Yesterday, we heard again that the injured have helped the injured. Perhaps a challenge for all of us, for governments, medical institutions, elected officials, and Canadians generally, is to ask a very simple question. Why were so many of them left feeling that they had to do it alone? That is a question worth pursuing long after these four days are over. For too long, many of these Canadians,

and felt that nobody was listening. This week we listened. Today we will continue. And after this inquiry ends, we must make sure we don't stop listening. Thank you. Let's get our day started. This is the fourth and final day of this inquiry.

We've had three days. And I think I speak for everyone that has been in this room and for those that have participated online. that this has been an experience. The way that these witnesses have shared to us and literally bared their hearts has affected every single one of this. Every single one of us,

I think many of us are going to be completely unsure on how to deal with this going forward. And when I say this, just the emotional impact that these people have had on us. There have been points where every eye had a tear in it in this room. There have been points where, you know, when your heart's stopping because you're sensing the emotion and the other person so strongly and that we're having that. There have been times where all of us have either cried or been doing all we can to prevent ourselves from crying. Why has this been so impactful?

It's because we're hearing people honestly share what has been nothing but a tragic journey. And we've listened to them. We've heard them. And that's what this inquiry is about. I appreciate that we've had experts to help frame things. And they are precious and we need that so that we understand the context of these injured people. But this is about vaccine injuries. Canadians about their witnesses.

And, you know, I'd shared about the difficulties that they've had. Some of them have been too afraid to travel mentally. You know, we saw Michael McNair testify, a gentleman that was willing to sacrifice his life for this country and his fellow soldiers for years, being completely abandoned and it wasn't it wasn't the words that he spoke it was the way he spoke from actually the struggle to share his story that spoke about the moral injury we all saw it we all felt that it's undeniable and I I hope that we all felt the collective sense of shame that we've left him to his own devices,

he can't even afford the medication he needs that they tell him he needs to stay alive. A Canadian Army veteran. We've had witnesses that have wanted to stay in this room and participate that have had to leave because they're just in too much distress, both physically and mentally, but something else has happened here for the vaccine injured.

is many of them have felt completely alone. Do you remember Jasmid Gruel, who the young man sitting in a wheelchair with an IV pole with two pumps? One goes into his chest into an artery and one goes into his stomach because for 12 hours a day they have to pump. He can't swallow anything. The only reason he's alive is these two bags as we watched. them pumped during his testimony, keep him alive. He felt alone before this inquiry, and he's actually met his people. We've made a choice because we've got a small gallery here that we were going to reserve it

for the vaccine injured and their support people. And I'm glad we made that choice because some of them, you know, we had, I thought we had lost her witness yesterday and had to adjust our schedule, but she couldn't be in the room and they need quiet places to be and the sound and the noise and everything. We wanted this to be a place where it's just them, where it's not busyness and where they can find each other. And it's been precious that they've been finding a wider community. I hope that they're not the only ones finding a wider community. Because we're all sharing in a collective experience.

There's something happening here. What's happening here, in my words, is holy. I think God's presence is here, and he's speaking through these people, and we have a choice to accept that. And we have a choice to experience the community that comes with peace and love and listening to each other. And so I am so grateful, and I know chairperson, Allison is so thankful for the alternative media that's here. They are live streaming, and there's alternative media not here live streaming.

And we've made it easy. But the world is watching this. Something is happening here. This is being blessed. And the world is watching. because of the alternative media and people that are tirelessly posting. So I invite everyone, big or small, live stream this, pick this up. You know, I had mentioned yesterday there are a lot of businesses that they have TVs in their waiting room

and they're running CNN and CBC and the like. Stream the Allison inquiry. Stream us live today and then we'll have four days up on the website for the next several weeks. stream up. Just have that in your waiting room. Share this experience because this is the first time in a long time that we're actually allowed to be Canadians. So with that, I'd like to call our first witness of the day, Dan Hartman. Dan, can you take the Bible in your right hand, please? Dan Hartman, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so happy God? I do.

Dan, I just, I want to identify that you're wearing a hockey jersey. And everyone that's been attending here, because this is a formal inquiry, it's a requirement that they wear formal clothes. But we invited you to wear hockey jersey and make an exception. And so I just want everyone to know that there's a very good reason that you're just about to learn as to why Dan Hartman. It's an act of honor that you're doing this. So you're here to testify by your son, Sean. Yes. And Sean, we know we didn't have COVID because an autopsy was done and it confirms this. Can you tell us about your son, Sean Hartman? Well, Canada, our game is hockey and there's thousands of kids around Canada, around this great country who love hockey, and Sean was no different.

It was his love and passion. And in order to keep playing hockey, which he played since he was a little kid, since he was holding up to play, in 2021, he was forced to take a shot. Otherwise, he couldn't play. And my son's biggest fear in life was needles. So if he had the choice, he wouldn't have taken it. He wanted to keep playing the game he loved. So in August of 2021, he took his first shot on August 25th.

On August 29th, he was rushed to emergency. Let's slow down because I want you to share with us first who Sean is. Oh, okay. So can you share with us, you know, he was 17? Yes. Can you share with us who he was, what type of a person? You know, just so that we come to understand who's not here to share with us today. He was a very shy, humble boy.

He didn't have a lot of friends, but he had some very close friends. He was mostly private. He enjoyed just watching movies and hanging around with his family and doing things fun whenever he had the chance. And he didn't care how popular he was that didn't bother him. He was a very respectable boy. Never said a swear word once in 17 years. I never saw him get mad once.

just such a loving angel. He really was an angel. Sometimes I can't believe he was mine. You know, you described him as shy. Can you give us an example? Can you explain what did that look like for Sean? Well, he wouldn't come out and talk to people like I do. He would just kind of sit in the background. And if you talk to him, he'll talk back to you, of course. But he was just a very up to himself, kind of kid just like normal things that every other kid liked right um can you share with us some of the most precious memories you have of him um he loved to sing i have a video of him singing twinkle little star and i didn't force him to do it he asked me he said can i sing i shang and i said yeah and i put karaoke on the computer for him and he he sang twinkle little star and That's a video I still can't watch to this day.

I'll break down if I start watching it. And he loved movies. We watched a movie together every weekend. We made it a point to watch a movie every time. And he loved action movies, of course, but I convinced him to watch Forrest Gump. And he didn't really want to because kids like explosions and stuff like that. And he watched it with me.

And at the end, he said, I'm so glad I watched that. you and I'll never forget that moment because he trusted me it wasn't his typical type of movie but he loved it did you know we're gonna talk a little bit about us is hockey but you know is that can you share with us maybe some of his proudest moments as a hockey player well he was a captain on his team and a captain on a hockey team is very well respected and admired by his teammates and a leader. And like I said, Sean was shy, but not on the ice. He was, hockey was everything to him. So he became captain of his team, probably voted by the other

teammates or the coaches. And it's a very important position to be in. Right. Are there a couple of games that stick out where, you know, he was, he was very proud of the game? Not exceptional games I mean he was a defenseman So his job was to protect the goalie And he took it very serious He didn't want anyone coming in on his goalie and scoring So he didn't get a lot of goals

But most defensemen don't But he took his job as protecting his goalie very serious And how old was he when he started getting interested in hockey Five Five, okay To see one of these kids that would play shinny out in the street and yeah oh yeah yell car when a car's coming car moving that for the the international audience they won't know what we're talking about but in Canada kids go and play hockey in the winter on

the street and they'll have their nets and everything but when a car comes you yell car and everyone clears off the nets and moves so the car can go by so that's that's the experience and then and then he just jumped into the game as a little as a little kid Yeah. Now you shared with us that he was a defenseman. So was he always a defenseman or did he? Okay, so he just gravitated. Well, he's a bigger guy too, and you want your big guys playing defense.

They're the ones you can check and protect the goalie. That's their job. And just again, we've literally have an international audience, and some people will not understand the role of defensemen. So can you just go in a little more, the types of things that Sean would have to do on the ice. Well, your job is to get the puck off the other team and get it to your forwards. They're the centermen and a right winger and a left winger.

And the defensemen are back here to protect the goal. So it's their job to take the puck off the other team to dump it down the ice or get it to your forwards so they can skate down the ice and score. No, he at the time, what team was he playing for? The beaten stingers. And was that the team he was captain? know? Yeah. And you shared with us that he loved hockey, but I know it even went deeper than that. What was his aspiration to, you know, when he became an adult that he wanted to be doing?

Well, he was hoping to make the NHL to play professional hockey. He knew that's a, it's a long shot in Canada. It's really hard to become a pro. But he also entertained the thought of being an NHL referee just so he could be around the game. if he didn't make hockey. Because I always ask him, what do you want to do with your life shot? And he'd say, I don't know. I said, you just want to be an NHL player? And he said, yeah, pretty much. So he didn't really have any other plan.

So that was his goal. But I said, you know, if you don't make it, you can be a referee. They make a lot of money. That's a good living. And you still get to be around the game. And he thought, yeah, that sounds good. Great. So, you know, he just had such love for hockey

that he wanted to be on the ice. He would talk about hockey in the summertime when they're not even playing. Hey, Dad, did you hear about it? And I'm like, no. What, in the NHL, what was his favorite team? The Toronto Maple Leafs. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. So that's fun. And he also knew that they disappoint us every year. Like he wasn't brainwashed thinking they're going to win the cup, but he still loved them. I was being kind and avoiding them. Yeah.

So, okay, and you're shared with us that he was terrified of needles. And he actually had to get a non-COVID needle, not long before COVID. Yeah. What was that, your understanding of that experience? He passed out. That's how much he feared needles. And I would try to tell him, it's no big deal. It's just a little prick, and you're good.

But he was terrified of him. So that plays a lot into this story that there's no way on earth he would have taken that unless he was forced. And forced, meaning you can't play hockey. That's right. Unless you get vaccinated. So what happened there with the league? What was going on? Oh, they forced you to have the shot, even for the parents.

If you wanted to go in and watch your children, you had to have the shots. So he had to have two shots by a certain date to play, but he only took one. He didn't get to his second one. Now, and I'm asking an obvious question because he's a hockey player and a serious hockey player. Like they play a lot of games and they practice. What kind of shape was shown in, the 17-year-old? Perfect. Very healthy.

He never drank pop in his life. I tried to get him to take it one time and he wouldn't drink it. He wouldn't put salt on food. That's how healthy he was. He never had a drop of alcohol in his life. He never had a cigarette. It was just sports. Right.

So he was an elite athlete with no pre-existing health conditions of any kind. No. So, okay. And you told us the only reason he's taking this is because it's necessary. It's required for him to continue to do. what he loves. Yeah. And hockey was his life. Oh yeah. So August 25th, 2021, he has his one and only shot, which was a Pfizer. Can you share with us what happened? He went to a one day vaccination clinic, come one, come all at the community center and

He got one shot, and he was rushed to emergency four days later. He had brown circles around his eyes, rash all over his face and neck and vomiting, and an extremely sore shoulder opposite to his injection shoulder, which I've been told by doctors could be a sign of heart problems. The doctor in emergency did not do any blood work whatsoever. He didn't do a de-dimer test. He didn't do a troponin test, which would have found blood clots or damage to his heart. So I'll just slow you down here.

So four days after the shot, a 17-year-old healthy hockey player is rushed to emergency because, so he's got the raccoon eyes. So you're meaning where it's like really, almost like bruised eyes, like signers. He's got a rash all over his neck and face. There's clearly something going on. He's vomiting. And his right shoulder is in extreme distress and pain, but his injection was in the left shoulder. And they don't even do blood work at the ER? Nope.

They only gave him a prescription for a painkiller for his sore shoulder. That's it. And sent him home. So no testing at all? Nothing. So just here's a more stronger painkiller than you can get in the drugstore. Were they, did they tell him to go to his family doctor or to? Yeah, they told him to follow up with his family doctor.

Okay. But blood tests should have been done at the very least. I'm shocked, actually. Yeah, me too. Just because of his age and the fact that he would be visibly demonstrating, you know, and I reached out with Dr. Drew, a very famous doctor. Everyone knows Dr. Drew. I didn't think he'd answer me.

because he had the exact same thing that happened to him. He had the brown raccoon eyes after his shot. So I reached out to him. I said, Dr. Drew, what's with the circles around my son's eyes? He said, classically, a sign of transverse sinus thrombosis, which is blood clotting. Okay, so here's one. So Dr. Drew is a medical doctor, isn't he? Yep.

So you just reach out to him and he's able to, you know, just give you a diagnosis. Now, you don't know, but Dr. Peter McCull is sitting behind you. and I saw him nodding in agreement. So this is something medical doctors know about. Oh, yeah. So a 17-year-old showing up with that, the medical ER doctors should know, wait a second, this could be very serious, this could be blood clouthing. And nothing is done.

Dr. McCullough also looked at Sean's autopsy because in Toronto, the cause of death was unassertained. They didn't know why he died. But Dr. McCullough looked at it and figured out that, yeah, Sean had myocarditis. But in Toronto, they claimed he didn't. Okay, well, let's... His heart was slightly swollen, and they tried to pass it off to me as,

oh, don't worry, that's normal. That's what athletes have. Right. Let's continue with the story and then get to that part. So he's released from E-R, we're not even released, they didn't admit him. He sent home with a prescription of painkillers. What happens after that?

He was feeling very tired. I was talking to Sean St. stepdad and he was taking naps during the day and that's not Sean. He doesn't do that and just so exhausted. And then on the morning of September 27th, he wasn't coming upstairs to go to school. And they got really worried. My ex-wife and Sean's stepdad and they went downstairs and found him. dead on the floor besides his bed.

And I had to wait three long months for autopsy results. It's a very simple wait. I just want to slow you down. So September 27th, that's like 33 days after his shot. Yeah. He basically dies in the night, a 17-year-old healthy hockey player. dies in the night. But he didn't die in his bed, did he?

No, he was found on the floor. So I can only assume my best guess is he stood up because he knew something was wrong. And for a split second or two, he knew something was very wrong. And he collapsed on the floor and died. Right. So what likely happened is,

is he wakes up having a heart attack. He realizes he's in, trouble and he tries to go get help for help but he doesn't make it no they found him on the floor right beside his bed and i i know we can only imagine the the panic that sean would have been in he's probably scared scared like he's never been scared in his life so an autopsy is done what what what did say and what what happened after that they said cause of death unassertained they couldn't tell me why he died. They didn't know why he died. There was no full DNA testing was done. Proxicology was done. They found nothing. And cause of death unassertained is extremely

rare in this world. It's only 2% of autopsies. Right. But I just actually have to stop you because in the province I live, Alberta, I think it's only about six, seven years ago that they added, you know, cause unknown as a, before we didn't have that. And for several years into the COVID period, it was the leading cause of death for several years in the province I live in was, you know, cause unknown. So they decided to do a change for COVID and have this basically excuse not to tell us

why people were dying because it's a new thing. So, okay, so cause unknown. and David, can we pull up? You'd send us some photos and I've had two of them that I picked. So tell us about this photo. This is your son, Sean Hartman. That's my boy. That's when he switched teams to go play rep hockey, which is a higher level than House League. And he went to play for Alaston for two years. And he enjoyed it, but he really, really missed his friends. And so he went back to beaten to play the rest of his career. So that's...

Right. So this is like the team, they take photos of all the players and that. Okay. So what year would have this? Would he been what 15, 14, 15? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so he's actually, he's so good that he gets to go playing another league out now. Higher division. Higher hockey. Right. But he's doing that for a couple of years. He's missing his friends back home. So he decides to kind of take a tear down. so that he can play with his friends. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Can we see the next photo? Tell us about this photo. We just got a Chihuahua, and Sean was a big animal lover, and my fiancé was talking to him in this picture, and it was taken without his knowledge, and it turned out to be a really great picture. And he loved animals so much,

so he was hugging our little girl, and just so happy to be with another dog, He had dogs of his own at home, but when he came to visit me on my weekends, now he had another dog to play with. And then you feel some responsibility towards Sean over what happened, and you've been doing some things about that. Can you share with us why you feel a responsibility even to be here and sharing Sean's story? Because Sean can't speak for himself, and I love that boy. more than anything in this life. He was everything to me.

And I will go down, I will die for Sean. I will do whatever it takes to get the truth out about him so people don't have to suffer the same pain I am. I don't want any parent to go through this because it's unhealable. My son wasn't, he didn't have a disease,

it wasn't a car accident, it wasn't suicide, my son was murdered. And I believe that in my heart 100%. So I will do everything in my power to let people know about Sean and to fight for him because he's not here to fight for himself. And that's what a dad should do. And one of the things that you've done is you've started a lawsuit, including against Health Canada and Pfizer, to try and get some civil responsibility for what happened. And I'll lead you a little bit through this because I want you to be questioned by others.

But it's basically the lower court concerning Health Canada has said, you can't go after Health Canada. You can't sue Health Canada because, and listen carefully, everyone, Health Canada does not owe individuals a duty of care when they're approving vaccines. Their duty of care is to the general public. And then you basically appealed that decision to the Interior Court of Appeal. The decision is Hartman v. Canada Attorney General. It's founded at 2006 ONCA 270.

And I've read that decision, and I know you've read the decision, but just because we're running short, I'm going to speed us through this. So basically the Ontario Court of Appeal agrees that Health Canada does not owe individual like Sean Hartman, any duty of care, and therefore you can't even name them as a party in a lawsuit. So the interesting thing I find about that, Mr. Hartman, is that most, it's human nature that if there's a consequence to you'd be negligent, if there's a consequence to you hurting other people, like a personal consequence, then we kind of watch what we're doing, right? If, you know, there was no fines for speeding, maybe some of us might speed more. just to use an example.

So here we have a regulatory body that people believe is there to protect them. Well, if they act negligently, if they act with bias or do something that's awful, there's no recourse so that there's no incentive for them to act with any responsibility. So the law applies to you and I,

we can't hurt anyone. We heard a single person. We find out really quickly. We can't do that. Yeah. But it doesn't seem to apply otherwise. Mr. Mottz. Thank you.

And thank you very much for your testimony. And I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you. I asked to witness this yesterday, and I ask you the same question. You talk about the injustice that was done, and you feel responsible to carry on the fight because Sean can't.

What would justice look like for you and your family for Sean? The one and only thing I've ever asked for in the beginning is truth. I've only asked for the truth. I've been fighting for Sean much longer than I've had the lawsuits or a lawyer. I only wanted them to admit that Sean was one of the people who died from his shot. And they won't do it. They won't admit it. They've admitted to other deaths, but not Sean.

I guess it's because I'm vocal about it, but they just won't admit it. So no amount of money is going to make me feel better if I win this lawsuit. It's five years later, and I'm still crying every day. There's no healing from this. So I don't care about the money. I don't care if they give me one penny. As long as I get to hear the judge say guilty, that's justice for me and my family,

that they are guilty of giving Sean something that kills him. So when you say they, there's a broad day. Oh, yeah. And it's specific. Yeah. So in your perspective, who are they? Health Canada, Pfizer, who made the product, mainstream media, who kept saying safe and effective every day and telling you to take it to protect your grandma. And everyone involved in Sean's death.

But there's so many to blame. My blame list is huge. but I want the judge to just say guilty. Yes, the shot killed Sean Hartman. When they don't admit it, it makes them look even more guilty, in my opinion. Like, just come out and say it. We're sorry, Mr. Harmon, but the shot killed your son. That's simple.

I even put a post on social media offering to drop them my lawsuits. Offering, if they will just admit it to me, nothing. They won't say it. They won't say the words, I guess because if they admit to Sean, It's going to open doors for other people. Right. And that's what I want to do. I want to open doors for other people.

Good for you. Do you, do you, have you ever, obviously there's distrust now with the medical profession in some regards? Have you ever had occasion to go back to that ER doctor that apparently, you know, just dropped the ball? I know, I know where he works. I know his name. I'm not allowed to name him or believe it or not, I could be sued, which makes no sense. I have a lot of anger towards him, but a little bit of forgiveness because it was the beginning of the pandemic. And maybe he didn't know he should have done blood tests, but on the other hand, he should have known, he's a doctor. And I don't think it's good

that I ever see that man face to face. So I'd rather just try to forgive him in my heart and move on. So there's been conversation about Mr. Allison spoke about it this morning that the voices, you know, from this inquiry from the National Citizens' Inquiry and the voices of those have been injured and those have

concerns, you know, we can't let that You can't let that just disappear after something like this. How do you see an effective go forward on dealing with this, whether it be correcting what's happened in the past and coming terms of that, how do we do that properly? And then how do we prepare for the future? Because we're going to have, I'm sure, unfortunately, we're going to have something similar down the road.

From your perspective, Mr. Harpen, how do you see us navigating that currently for what's happened and prepare for what could happen? Truth and honesty. Just tell everyone the truth about the product. Tell them, there's a chance you could die if you take it. I mean, people can die from anything. But they didn't tell Sean he could die from this. Have some truth. The love of God.

I mean, the inserts in the packages for the vaccines were blank. It said intentionally blank. How are you supposed to have informed consent? I was a senior sitting at a Walmart supposed to have informed consent. And they said, oh, well, there's a QR code on the blank page, and you can scan it and get all the information. Lots of seniors don't have a cell phone. My mom doesn't. She's 89.

She doesn't have a cell phone. The little kids could get this shot, 12 and older, without parental consent. I didn't even know Sean took it. That in itself should be a crime. A 12-year-old can't make a decision on their body. Thank you. Mr. Mottes. Sorry.

All the time. No, listen, Mr. Chairman, we really appreciate you being here. And I personally love how you advocate on behalf of your son and continue to. Thanks, Dean. And as I said, we want to continue to help you advocate. So thank you so much for being here today. Thanks for having me. It means a lot that you're doing this.

Thank you, sir. I hope you know, Dean. Yeah. So our next witness is Rodney Palmer, Rodney, can you get, can somebody give them the Bible to put in his right hand? Thank you. Rodney Palmer, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? So help you God.

I do. I just want to introduce you to the inquiry. You worked as a journalist in Canada for 20 years. You were a general assignment reporter for the Globe and Mail newspaper. You worked as a daily news reporter at the Vancouver Sun. You worked at CBC and later you worked as a producer and investigative reporter at CBC radio and television. You then went to be the foreign correspondence and Bureau Chief for CTV News based in India, then Israel and finally in China, based in Beijing. And we've asked you to come and testify about the standard process of news gathering versus propaganda.

at the CBC during the time of COVID. And my understanding this is that you have a presentation for us, and I'd invite you to give that. I do. Thank you, Mr. Allison, for holding this inquiry. Thank you, Mr. Buckley. I worked at the CBC for these times and at CTV, but I was primarily, I was trained at the CBC from a young age, a young journalist.

I was trained in their system. And what I observed very quickly during COVID was that the CBC morphed into the type of broadcaster that I witnessed in China in Syria and North Korea. It wasn't the public broadcaster that I had been trained as. I believe it's a state broadcaster. And I'm going to explain the difference between those two things. A public broadcaster engages in news gathering,

which is defined in the Oxford Dictionary as the process of doing research on news items. And the way it works is from the bottom up. So a little reporter in a small town in Saskatchewan will do a story that's local and maybe Western Canada becomes interested in it. maybe the nation does and it goes up and it becomes a national news story. That's a bottom up. That's how the apparatus is designed to work. That's a public broadcaster.

It tells the story of the nation that holds us together and knits us together by telling our stories. But I heard it becoming a state broadcaster. And a state broadcaster works on propaganda. It uses the same apparatus, the same anchors, the same reporters, right down to that little reporter in Saskatchewan. And what it does, it's defined in Oxford as the intentional manipulative. of public opinion through lies and half-truths. It uses the same apparatus, but it comes from the top down. The government tells us right down to that little reporter,

and they all speak with a unified voice. One of the first things I noticed was a story on the national at CBC Television, the National News with Adrian Arsena. One of the greatest broadcasters we have, by the way. She's amazing in the way that she is on camera, and she's very believable and trustworthy. But when I saw this, I did not recognize it as news. So what do you do when this happens?

A loved one. Let's say it's your dad, drops into the family group chat with something he thinks is real. It's something about China manufacturing the coronavirus. There's a link to a site you've never heard of with a message calling it scary stuff. So what do you do with this? Do you ignore it? Do you call them out saying how ridiculous you think this is? So hold back on all that reactive talk.

Maybe try something like this. Yeah, these are scary times. We're all a bit afraid, but let's be careful. What you're sharing is inaccurate, and it feeds into that fear we all feel. Fear was what they were selling here. It wasn't news. And more interestingly, on April 4th, 2020,

CDC had no idea that this didn't come from a lab. I covered the SARS outbreak in 2002 in Beijing, and I followed the World Health Organization, the virus hunters, determining who was patient zero, I know that the amount of time that this takes, and it hadn't been determined yet. So how did they presume in that story, number one, that it wasn't from a lab. They presented no evidence. There was no news gathering.

And more importantly, they said, don't trust your dumb old dad. That's what the focus of this story was. Don't trust your family member. So this is another thing that state broadcasters do. They attempt to supplant themselves as the arbiters of truth and divide you from your standard, the person you seek as a true person, a wise person in your life. in this case, your father. So they had no evidence, and yet they did this.

It's because this was propaganda, and I recognized it instantly. Just a few days later, the Washington Post did news gathering. It published a story that there were safety issues at the Wuhan lab. This is 10 days after the Adrian Arsno's piece. Going back to 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing had been warning Washington about safety and management weaknesses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that stated specifically there was a potential human transmission representing a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic. This is two years before. Did the CBC come on 10 days later and said, sorry, the Washington

Post has broken a story that we're looking into that it might be from the lab. No, they didn't do that. They kept telling you, you know, it's ridiculous to be from the lab. The next year, Vanity Fair did a deep dive and found five scientific papers published seven years prior to that broadcast by the scientists at the Wuhan lab in public domain that showed that they were creating a brand new infectious pathogen, some Frankensteinian bacteria that, or virus rather, that was merging the SARS-202 virus with a new bat virus. They said there were safety deficiencies at the Wuhan lab. They said they were genetically engineered rats with humanized lungs. And all of this information was available to Adrian Arsano, the CBC and the National at the time they told us,

don't believe it to be true. So they, with the billions of dollars that they have from the people of Canada and the federal government, they failed to tell us this. And it's probably not because they didn't know how. It's probably because they were acting as a state broadcaster. The next thing they did was when the vaccine run. Can I just stop you? Because don't we now, with the Fauci Diaries, it's pretty clear that this lab leak theory

is very, very probable. The U.S. Congress issued a report that it was definite. The U.S. FBI has issued a report that it is definite from the lab. But my point here is in the moment, it was provable. And a journalist

would have proved it, or at least strongly pointed the finger. Not only was it probable, but it was the most likely scenario at the moment that she was telling us, don't believe your father, if he says, because he's kind of dumb because dads are. This is, this was a scenario that they were creating because they were not exercising the journalism that we expected them to do. They were simply exercising state propaganda. And it gets worse, Mr. Buckley. By December, we had a vaccine, ridiculously lightning speed, seven months to a vaccine. and they bypassed the parents entirely in an arm of CBC called CBC Kids,

where they broadcast this on December 16th, 2020. So you're a vaccine researcher. How confident are you that this vaccine is safe? So the vaccine has been tested in thousands and thousands of people and to have shown no significant safety concerns. So because it's been given to so many people and they haven't had a problem, I think that you can feel safer getting this vaccine, knowing that no problems have been recognized so far.

There are three things interesting about that scientist. Number one, she choked on her final phrase, no significant safety conservatives have been found so far. Normally when somebody's doing that, they repeat themselves, they stutter, they stumble, it's because they're trying to remember a script. I picked up on it. The second thing that was horrifying to me is there's a tension track underneath that. You couldn't quite hear it on the volume we have here. It's subliminal.

Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, it's on there, right? It was also on the national news piece with Adrian Arsino. And when she went to interview somebody who said, I'm an expert and I know how to talk to your father, the music changed to, La La La. This is a Hollywood emotional manipulation trick to get us to think and feel a certain way. The CBC was using this in their news items to promote fear and to promote to move us toward the solution that they wanted us to believe in their intentional manipulation. The most interesting thing about this on December 16th is she said there was no safety signals. However, four days prior on December 12th, Health Canada, had issued its first warning, its first bulletin, that it was monitoring cases of anaphylaxis.

So that's not nothing, CBC kids. That's not total safety. That's not no safety concerns. That's anaphylaxis. Four days prior. And that scientist was giving misinformation to the children. Only four months after that, so 16 weeks later, Public Health Ontario published that there were 20 reports of blood clot, seven reports of acute cardiovascular injury.

that sounds pretty severe to me. Acute kidney injuries, skin lesions, acute respiratory distress. Respiratory distress means you can't breathe. And seven reports of death in Ontario alone. Did CBC kids go back on and say, listen, kids, the story has changed. It's emerging. We have new information. No, they continued to say, go get the vaccine.

It'll release you from the confines of your parents' basement. A reporter at CBC Manitoba started to get so many phone calls from vaccine injured people that she did a story about it. She did her job. She's a 35-year veteran named Marion Cloak, and she knows how to do her job. She phoned around to university experts across Canada, and she learned that there were actually safety signals by this time of myocarditis and paracarditis. These university experts who were in the field said that this was happening. It was posted on the Health Canada website. It was being witnessed internationally, and she put a story together, and CBC Manitoba censored the story.

They said, you can't say that. It will promote vaccine hesitancy. And she replied, that's not my job to promote hesitancy or to cheerlead the vaccine. My job is to tell the truth of what's happening in this country. They sent the story down to CBC Toronto for vetting. This has never happened to her before in her 35-year career as a broadcaster at CBC. And it took five weeks for them to come back with an answer. She was pointing out at the time that this was an urgent story, but they said, you can put those people on who claim that they're injured by the vaccine, but you can't put those two learned scientists on who say that these are red flags.

And we have paraccharitis and myocarditis, and we have other death red flags, and they're posting it on the Health Canada website. Not allowed to put them on. You have to put approved scientists on. She had never heard this before. So Marianne Cloak, you can't see the picture here, but she said, I quit. I'm triggering my retirement. I'm leaving the CBC. She later testified at the National Citizens' School Inquiry here in Ottawa. I witnessed in a very short time the collapse of journalism, news gathering, and investigative reporting at the CBC. The way I saw it, we were in fact pushing

propaganda. Those are her words. Around that same time, in order to combat the problem, I suppose, that the government had, but it was also, to me, it was an emerging story. These more and more people were getting injured by these vaccines that we were being told were safe and effective. Safe and effective, safe and effective. This is what a state broadcaster does. It's a hypnotic thing. It's a way to brainwash the public. So the federal government established a fund of $1.75 million and gave it to a nascent group of two people. It was called Science Up First. And it was run by a lawyer, oddly enough, not even a scientist. He, is his name's Timothy Caulfield.

And many people may have seen him. He's been on every media in the country. And he goes on and tells you that not only that you have to take a vaccine, but if you don't, that there's something wrong with you mentally. The mandate of science up first was to get as many Canadians as possible vaccinated against COVID-19. And so Mr. Cawfield surrounded himself with actual scientific experts, and they became the independent experts that the CBC would go to.

We used to call it the Golden Rollerodex, people that you knew. you could bring on and you knew what they were going to say. But they were the only ones allowed on. The ones that Marion Cloak got, who were raising wet red flags on behalf of Canada and trying to tell Canadians be careful, were not allowed on the CBC. Only these ones were allowed on the CBC. The same month that CBC suppressed that story that Marianne Cloac had, that the vaccine injuries were numbering in the hundreds and the thousands, CBC, Manitoba posted any claims that COVID-19 vaccines may have long-term side effects are completely untrue. And they knew this was a lie because their own reporter had a story that it wasn't untrue.

An infectious disease expert recently told CBC Radio's White Coat Black Art. So instead of quoting Health Canada's website or the people who were injured, they quoted themselves. This was a self-referential story. And they quoted a show called White Coat Black Art. You can't get more authoritative. It's hosted by a medical doctor, Brian Gold, and this guy's one of my heroes. He's a medical, he's an emergency room doctor in a busy hospital in downtown Toronto,

and he has two radio shows. And he took all of the trust of that 25 years, and he flipped it against me like a judo move to harm me. He put terra moriarty on, identified her as an infectious disease researcher at the University of Toronto. He didn't mention that she's a founder of science up first, which took a million point seven five from the federal government to promote vaccine uptake.

That was a half-truth from that definition of propaganda I gave you a moment ago. That was a lie by concealment. There was a lie by omission. Brian Goldman lied to us, and then so did Tara Moriarty. She said, we don't have any evidence that the vaccines cause anything but immunity against COVID-19. On the day she said it, Health Canada, and I don't know why my slides aren't showing here, but Health Canada had reported 119 deaths already from the COVID vaccine. You have to understand, Mr. Allison, who reports this?

Not anyone gets access to these lists on Health Canada. It has to be an attending physician who signs off on the death certificate or some other health professional that's involved with the death, and that information goes to the Provincial Health Authority, which then sends it to Health Canada. So there's a big vetting process before they list 119 dead cancer. Canadians while the CBC is saying to Canada that they have no evidence. No wonder people were dying from this vaccine. They were told that this wasn't true on a regular basis. Now imagine if young Sean Hartman,

whose father just testified here, who died from the vaccine, had known that. Imagine if CBC kids was on his television, he was in that range, that 18-year-old range for myocarditis and paracarditis. imagine if Marion Cloak's story had been broadcast like every one of her other stories in her 35-year career, and that had gone up like a public broadcaster does to the national level, and had gone across the country in June of 2021. Would Sean have taken the vaccine if he'd known that people were dying, even if it was only some people, even if it was only a tiny minority, would he have taken it? The next story that emerged was the thing didn't work. So not only had it been established by Health Canada that was not completely safe, but now it wasn't

completely effective. So CBC's cross-country checkup with Ian Hannah Mancing, again, one of my heroes, I love this guy. I used to look up to him. He's so easy on the air. He's easy to believe the way he talks. But he used that trust, and he turned it against us like a revolver with one bullet in the chamber, and we don't know how many chambers, pointed directly at us. He put Isaac Bogotch on from Science Up First and didn't identify.

He concealed that from the public. and instead said he's simply an infectious disease expert. And clearly this is a three-dose vaccine was his message. A number of months later, it still wasn't working. So Isaac Bogots went into overdrive and the rest of science up first. He was on CBC Metro Morning, the flagship radio show in Toronto saying when to get your fourth dose. He was on CBC News in October saying get your next dose every six months. He was on the national with Andrew Chang.

Who looks more trustworthy and honest than Andrew Chang, you know? But he betrayed his audience and all of Canada that night when he put this guest on and called him an infectious disease specialist and didn't mention he was paid by the government to make you take a vaccine. It was a trick. On the same day he said it, the death toll was now up to 370 dead Canadians reported by Canadian medical officials. While they were doing this. So my point is that a journalist looks at Health Canada data and doesn't tell you that people are dying. And by this point, there was over 1,100 myocarditis and paracchariditis, mostly young men. This was a safety signal emerging while they were saying, go get another dose, and don't worry, it's totally safe and effective.

I wonder if this woman was listening to the CBC. Carol Pierce died in minute seven in her 15-minute waiting period after she got the vaccine. The coroner said she died of natural causes. So we really have to suspend our disbelief here that she was going to die anyway in the shopper's drug. at that moment and that the confounding interference of the injection into her arm seven minutes before was irrelevant. This is even bigger than trying to suspend her disbelief that it didn't come from the lab when the lab itself was publishing what they were doing with the coronavirus that emerged in their city. Her daughter posted the last text thread where her mother wrote the last words of this woman before she died

was waiting the 15 minutes, L.O.L. This is the type of social media post that the C.E. The CBC would declare was misinformation. They shamed and blamed, belittled, humiliated, and bullied. I had never seen anything like this. This goes beyond what China did. This is getting into North Korea level of state broadcasting, where they actually attacked people who were telling the truth. And they dismissed it because it was social media,

which is now the only truthful media we have, because the CBC was clearly, and I'm showing evidence here, I'm submitting this, was lying to us by now. They call them anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and misinformation on social media. These phrases may sound familiar to you. I'm going to break down this language for a moment. It's pure censorship. An anti-vaxxer is meant to make you think they're unreasonable.

A conspiracy theorist is meant to make you think they're delusional. They have a mental illness of some sort. They're paranoid. And misinformation means they're practicing mischief. Nobody wants to be accused of these things. So this is how censorship works really effectively. You don't want to be called this so you don't speak up. You self-censor.

You shut the hell up instead of coming forward with the truth. This is the language of propaganda and it's extremely effective. And I want to tell everyone here today, this is a little trick. I'm trained to do this so I understand it. But the next time you're listening to any media or reading any media and you hear the phrase anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorists or misinformation, you are listening to propaganda. understand that from this day forward. Your life may depend on it.

By March 1st, 2023, so many Canadians were disgusted and upset with the CBC for not reporting this story that 150 of them went at dawn down to the CBC headquarters on Front Street in Toronto and plastered flyers with their faces, their names, their injuries, the stories of their dead loved ones, on the front page, on the front entrance of the CBCT and CBC, you could not have been a CBC employee entering in the main entrance that day and not have seen this.

They were saying, okay, we're willing to commit a minor act of vandalism here in order to get you to pay attention. We don't know what else could work. But near as I can figure, CBC security just went out and took the posters down. And these people were not interviewed. My guess is that they couldn't be interviewed. because if you take 150 of them, statistically probably about 10 or 15 of them are going to say to the interviewer,

you know, I believed you. You did this to me. Adrian Arsano, Ian Hannah Mansing, Brian Goldman, I can name 10 others. You did the, I trusted you. They were stuck because they couldn't call them in anti-vaxxer. They'd all been vaccinated.

They couldn't say this is misinformation. They were only describing their own truly lived experience and they couldn't call them a conspiracy theorist because they weren't saying anything other than I got vaccine, vaccinated, and I'm injured. Please tell the story. By January 19th, Health Canada, in 2024, Health Canada had listed 488 dead Canadians reported by their medical professionals on their website. The safety signals of paracarditis and myocarditis were now officially on the Health Canada website. Now imagine if two and a half years prior, the CBC had simply let Mary and Cloak do her story and not sensitive.

her. Imagine if the CBC National had done this story and followed this as it emerged. Never mind that it didn't work. It was killing people. No, yes, they will say it wasn't everybody. It was only some people. And the biggest emerging story that I see on this page is that of the 488 deaths, Mr. Allison, 484 of them have been dismissed as non-causal. So when a doctor sees somebody die and has the temerity to write on the death certificate COVID-19, how does some review panel at a later date dismiss close to 100% of them? Now, instead of examining this as an investigative report, journalists will say, well, see that?

Only four of them really died. Still not none, like they say. But how is it that they dismiss? Almost 100% of them. In this regard, CBC, in my observation, is equated with the state broadcasters of North Korea, Syria, and China. I lived and worked in these countries. I heard it happen. I was trained at the CBC on how to be a journalist, and I watched it morph during COVID.

It's propaganda from the top down. It's intentional manipulation of public opinion through lies, half-truths, and disinformation. And by disinformation, I mean a lie with intent to. mislead. And that's why this inquiry is here. If the CBC had done its job, we wouldn't be here doing this. We need an MP like you to call an inquiry because the billion-dollar CBC failed us. But it's possible that it didn't because its assignment changed. It is no longer a public broadcaster. It's a state broadcaster. And it did as it was told. Thank you very much for listening today. I wanted to come here and tell you what I've observed to be true.

Well, thank you, Mr. Palmer. And you certainly will. Yeah, well, there we go. You won't get any disagreement for me, but I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Moss for a question. Thank you very much for your candor today. Your last statement created a question for me. Now, as a state broadcaster, obviously, CBC did not act alone. So are you suggesting that they were prompted by the state? I don't know who prompted them.

I do know that they shifted their allegiance from the people of Canada to an organization called the Trusted News Initiative, which was a standards organization which virtually all mainstream media in North America and worldwide subscribe to just prior to COVID. it. And this standards organization, and this is research that I've done, would give them story ideas such as how to out lies on social media, how to shame and blame. I can guess that it was a directive that would have come from the president of the CBC, but I don't know. And this news background, like Pena and Press, we would think of it, but you just mentioned, what was the name again? The trusted news initiative. It came out of England. It's a kind of a murky organization.

It's difficult to research who they are, what they are when they started. But they had, you have to understand that the reason I'm talking here about the CBC because it's a Crown Corporation funded by federal tax dollars in its entirety. But it's not alone. What I've just said here could go for just about any news organization, the Globe and Mail, the National Post, global TV, CTV, many of my former employers, I worked in these organizations and I saw them doing the same thing. And they were all members of this trusted news initiative. Well, I just want to thank you for confirming what many of us have been saying for many, many years of the obvious bias by our mainstream media, especially our state fund broadcaster.

So thank you for your honesty today. You're welcome. Thank you. And we are at the time. And Mr. Palmer, some of that sent me a video of you talking at a barbecue. And when I saw you, your conversation, I said, I talked to Sean. I said, I think we need to have him in to help frame what we're up against. And so you've done an awesome job.

And like every witness, we really should have you here for an hour, but we didn't have the time and we need to make room for more time. So thank you very much for your presentation. And I think probably confirming some of the things we suspected already. But we appreciate you laying it out in such an articulate way. Yeah, so every witness's slide deck and photos are forming exhibits, and we'll have a page for each witness with their video of their testimony and the exhibits. Thank you.

So our next witness is Shannon Holmes. Shannon, can you take the Bible in your right hand? Shannon Holmes, do you swear to tell the truth? the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God. Thank you. I'm going to have you talk about your injury after I introduce you, but I just wanted to make the point when you talk about your injuries, you didn't have COVID prior to this.

No. And in fact, you're diagnosed by your doctor with what is called, and I find this, you know, good, interesting wording, vaccine-induced long COVID. Yes. And there's actually probably a benefit to it being defined as long COVID as far as getting treatment. Although, no, okay. I don't know. Well, let me introduce you. That's that word vaccine. That's the problem. So you are 50. You're a mother of two daughters, one of whom is here to support you today. Yes.

You were a movement therapist. Yeah. You did collates and yoga and time massage. You worked, you had a specialty of working with people with neurology. conditions and injuries such as MS and strokes. Yes. Before your vaccines, you were a healthy person. Yes. You did have a couple of medical issues. So you had rheumatoid arthritis, but you were in remission and you had always been managed quite well.

And in fact, I think what's telling is, is prior to your vaccine, you were working six days a week. So moving your body as an instructive. and yoga and Pilates and the like, and doing massage, which is very physical, including moving limbs and manipulating bodies. There was no limitations on what you would do. And you would walk five to 17 kilometers a day. Yes. So you were like totally into fitness. But by the day, the day of your second shot, you became disabled. Yep. So can you share with us your injury experience? So I got, I had my first vaccine and it went the way that everybody else's did.

Soar arm didn't feel so great. Then went from my second one. And because I'm autoimmune, I had to wait in the room for half an hour. So normal people got to wait for 15 minutes. We waited for half an hour. and in that time I had a painful sort of vibrating and tingling happening down my legs. And so I reported, like when I was going, I was sort of sitting there going, okay, well, maybe this will go away when I get up or whatever.

But when I got up, I was just like, so I reported it to the nurse because I had it done actually in the hospital's clinic. So I said to the nurse, I was like, I have this weird dealing in my legs and my feet. And so she went and got a doctor and he came over and pulled my mask down, look in my mouth. And then he asked me what medications I'm on. And of course I was on a medication for my autoimmune. And so I said that to him and he said, oh, you're autoimmune. You're a giant medical question mark. You can go. So I went home. I just, I want to slow this down because when you're talking about the sensation in your legs. Like you're you're actually in pain. It's not just this

kind of vibrating sensation. Yeah. And it's from your thighs down to your feet. Yeah. Like this is not insignificant, and both legs. Yes. This is not insignificant. In fact, and it was spreading into your hands and arms also. Yeah. So, and you're telling the doctor this. Yeah. And yet you're basically, oh, well, you're a question mark. Did they do any testing at all? No blood work, nothing? You're a giant medical question mark. But you're describing being in medical distress? Yeah. Okay, so you're not at the hospital. What happens next? So I went home and my kids were very good. It was the end of August when I got this. It was August 27th and I had a heating blanket on me. So that's when you got the Pfizer shot. Yeah, I had to get Pfizer because I'm autoimmune too. So I didn't

have any other choices. Right. So this is happening the same day that you get the shot. Yeah. So, um, so anyways, they sent me on my way, got home, um, and I was shaking and I was freezing and I had this pain still in my legs and it was sort of starting to go through my body. And I figured, okay, well, this is, you know, because my kids, when they got their first shot, it really, they were out for a few days. Um, so. I was like, okay, well, maybe this is just what that is. And I had gotten a shot later on in the afternoon. So by the time night came, I just took some pain medication and I went to sleep.

That night was one of the most painful nights of my life. I'm sorry. I get these things at night where I'm getting electrocuted. And I actually get like, it actually physically moves my body because it feels like I'm having like a buildup of electrocution. And it just like, I can't stop it. It just throws me. And that was the first night it happened. And it hasn't stopped since.

So the next day. I need to slow you down here. So what's going through your mind as your, this has never happened to before? I was just trying to survive. And I didn't want to wake the kids. I couldn't even barely move. It's just like you just sort of get tossed around the bed and like trying to cling to things. Oh, and clothes hurt.

So it feels like they're burning on your skin. So like, so I tore my clothes off. and I was just like getting thrown around. I had no idea what was happening. Also, when we were speaking, you were talking about you were getting back pain at that time. Can you share that with us? So the pain that I still have as well is I feel like I'm getting stabbed straight through my back. And that's why I have to lay down a lot.

I don't sit very often because I feel like my spine is crushing. And I, and it feels like it gets charged. choking me. So can you give us a little more detail about that? It says when I was interviewing you, I was actually finding it interesting that you were describing some of your symptoms almost like there is somebody attacking you. Yeah. So I don't want you to shy away from that. So you literally feel like somebody has their hands around your neck and a stroke. Yeah, all the time in whenever I'm sitting. Okay. So that night you're having all of these seizures for hours. I just want to, I understand you had a lot of videos,

but because it's somebody filming you when you're in her bed, most of them are decent, but we have one. Yes. And David, can we pull that up? And my understanding is this isn't even, oh, well, first of all, let this is a photo of you before. Yep. Like, okay, and let's go to the next one. This is another one of you. Like you were, these just demonstrate who you were beforehand. Yeah. But let's go to this. video and my understanding this isn't even a bad shocking episode the one that we're watching no it's a mild one so and we'll play it twice so you can see i'm like i'm actually getting like yanked and pulled but the last for hours and you have no control over this when it starts to happen no and it's painful when it's happened it's very painful and it's still happening today yeah okay so

what do you do then? So you've had this first night. Yeah. You're terrified. Yeah. And that's when I developed the pain going through my back and everything. And then I also threw it the day because I, sorry, I looked at my daughter and she's crying. So I also started developing where I couldn't eat. Anytime I ate anything, I felt like I was digesting a car crash. I just felt like, charge of glass were going through my system. So I actually couldn't eat anything. And I had called friends because my kids were still young. This is five years ago. And so I called friends to come over because I knew I needed to get to the hospital. And so they came and they called the ambulance. and then I got taken to the hospital.

And when I arrived, they were, I was, they, I was sort of in the triage session, I guess. And so they came up and they were like, okay, so what all is going on with you? And I'm like, I feel like, like my skin is being electrocuted. I feel like I'm getting stabbed. I said, there's something wrong with my back. And, like, I feel like I'm being choked. And I said, I can't eat anything. anything. And I also developed this other feeling where I feel like all my nails and my teeth

are being ripped off of me constantly. Sorry, this is another description, almost like as if you're being assaulted. Yes. And is this still going on? Yes. Are you feeling that way right now? Yes. I'm going to look at medication.

So you're on a lot of medication right now, also part to mitigate pain? Yeah. What's your pain like right now? Probably about an eight or a nine because I drove in yesterday. Okay. So the act of having to drive here so you could testify, you're being punished for that physically. Yes. And that's another part of your condition is if you're going to do something, you get penalized.

Yes. Oh, yes. And the problem with that is, is the more I do, there's something called, post exertion malaise, P-E-M, and when you do that, if you push yourself and you end up, I'll end up in bed for days,

that could actually end up being my new norm. I could actually not recover from that. So what is it, like, so this happened years ago. Five years. What's your condition today? Like, are you able to live independently? I don't think. I'd be able to. I have my daughters.

Am I right that you can't go out alone? I can't go out alone. So you're stuck in your home unless somebody's going to take you out? Yeah, like if I were to try to go do groceries, I can't. And you spend most of your day in bed? Yep, or on the couch. That's it, laying down. And you are in chronic pain every day?

Yes. Is the medical system doing anything for you at all? So it's interesting because when I actually went into the ER and I told them all the issues that I was having when I went in the first time. And they actually told me pick one. What do you mean pick one? So you're presenting with- Pick one issue that you're having. That's it.

So they gave me some Toridol and they gave me some morphine. The morphine did nothing, like zero. I was still stone sober after they gave me morphine. It did zero for me. And they put me in this weird part of the hospital where it looked like there were like cubicles, but beds everywhere, and it was like dark.

I don't know. It was very strange. And then I was still in pain, so they gave me another bag of morphine. pain still did nothing. And so then they discharged me. You told me when we're being interviewed that you have been rejected for 12 to 15 referrals from your doctor. Can you share with us about that? So, and these are referrals to specialists. Yes. Yes. So when I left the ER, I had, this is actually a perkins that's at home. So I just started taking those because it was a Saturday

day going into Sunday. Monday morning I called my family doctor and I got an appointment with her right away and she's she was amazing she tried she was sending referrals everywhere and I just kept getting rejections and then it happened for so long that then they the rejections turned into them calling me a long hauler and so it's getting rejected because it was a long hauler because it lasted so long and so I eventually did end up getting referred to two really good specialists. I don't know if I want to say the profession because I don't want to risk him. No, no, you don't have to put anyone who's actually helping you in jeopardy.

Yeah, yeah. So once he sort of took over, my family doctor got to breathe a bit. And so he's been instrumental in getting me medications to do help with some of the issues. So inside of the vaccine-induced long COVID umbrella, I've been diagnosed with all three types of pots, the main one being hyperadrogenic. I've been with ME-CFS, so I'm going to say it wrong, myelitis or something, and then chronic fatigue syndrome. functional neurological disorder and mass cell activation syndrome. Yeah, I just want to start by thanking you for taking the time to be here today. And I know that a lot of people don't always understand our witnesses at the table,

the type of pain and suffering. They're actually having to endure to be here. You talked about your daughters and their support. Yeah. And can you talk to us a bit more about how it's affected your family? Well, I used to cook all of the meals. I was very healthy, right? And I used to make all the meals, and I had no problem doing that,

and doing activities with them. And even during COVID, before I was injured, we were, you know, outside painting, and, like, we'd just do whatever we could. and the biggest thing was we'd go for our walks. And when we went for our walks, there were no funds. We walked and we actually talked. And we had such a deep relationship.

And since losing that, my kids have to help me with pretty much everything. They have to help me clean. They have to help cook. And, you know, and even with school, I feel like I let them down all the time. Because I can't always be there with most of the conditions I have. Sometimes I have such bad brain fog. I can't even think of words. Yeah.

And you also talked about the doc sort of say, like, you've got to pick one, but you list of some. So you've got half it does. are more different issues going on. Yeah. Like how many issues would you have going on that you would actually need attention for that you may be only getting help for one of it? Well, yeah, so my one doctor has been good with doing what he can.

But the issue is now is that, like, I can't get it. I've had five neurologists and they've all done something little or it was for a specific reason, but I can't get it. anybody to actually help with the neuro stuff. It's just sort of, I just keep sort of getting blown off. I had one neurologist that I saw, and when she found out it was a vaccine injury, she said, oh, I can't do anything for you, and sent me on my way. And she said she was going to send some referrals for my doctor to get some blood work done.

There's nothing. they don't even have a record of me being at that clinic. Yeah, so I'm guessing any time if you could get a specialist, that would be sort of the response. We just, we have no idea. Yeah. It's kind of hard to get treatment when there's, no one's got any concept and doctors don't seem to be talking too much to each other.

Yeah. Very hard to move forward when there's a cone of silence around the medical industry too, right? Yeah. Well, and so I wasn't getting a treatment that, I did have access. I was very lucky to get a really amazing pain doctor as well. And he put me into a high-dose ketamine treatment that was happening at one of the hospitals in Toronto. And over the course of two years, you get five high-dose ketamine. So it's six hours of being pretty much in a ketamine coma.

And it was actually helping with my neurological issues. but because it's so high sought after, after two years, you kind of get kicked out and you get sent to another clinic, but the time is half as long and it's not, I don't get the same bolus dose. And so everything's coming back because I can't get access because I need double the amount of ketamine than what OHIP pays for. And ketamine is $600 a shot. So that was going to be my next question. And like what type of out-of-pocket costs potentially? I can't afford it, so I can't do it. So I'm stuck every two months trying to make it last as long as I can.

But I can feel all of, like, everything coming back. Listen, I want to thank you so much for sharing your story and for your daughter coming to be the support and what you're doing at home as well. So we do appreciate you taking the time. We understand completely the sacrifices it takes to be here and be a part. But we can assure you you are a voice for so many other people. So thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. And lawyer Miriam Bohemia will be calling our next witness. Bonjour, Madame Lavois. Good morning, Ms. Lavo. Could you lift your right hand? Do you solemnly affirm that you're going to go to? to say the truth, only the truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

I do. Perfect. So, Madame Lavois, you are 68. You were a nurse, and you were working in a research lab, and you retired in 2015. At the time you took your vaccine, you were a driving instructor. So you were working four times a week. You're married. You have two daughters.

And you have three grandchildren. You told me that before your vaccination, you never had COVID. No, I never had it. And how was your health? I was in good health. I was not taking any medication and I was practicing some activities. You told me about the activities that you were doing before you took your vaccine, you were very active.

What kind of activities did you do? I was walking a lot. I loved to dance. And you traveled a lot as well. Yes, indeed. You would go on hikes. Yes, I would go with my youngest daughter, yes. So you took two doses of the Pfizer vaccine on October 1st and the 29, 2021.

That's right. And why did you get vaccinated? Well, first, because of social pressure to have my freedom of traveling as well, because in September of 2021, Quebec imposed the vaccine passport. Yes, that's what I would call the freedom passport. Why did you get vaccinated? Well, because of that, first of all, but also because I've been told that it was efficient

and it was a way to protect our children and grandchildren. And also, I couldn't work without getting vaccinated. Were you in the car with someone next to you? Yes, because you were doing it as a driving instructor. That's why. Indeed. So how did your symptoms start after you took the vaccines? I can tell you that right before the second, I took the second dose.

I realized that I was fatigued and it wasn't normal. I went hiking with my daughter and on our way back I was feeling tired and usually I didn't feel tired. I was out of breath and at some point it went downhill and I thought it was made. Maybe because of work, should I take some time off? That's what was happening at that time. And you had trouble sleeping as well, breathing. Yes, it started when I went on vacation. I took some time off.

And then I realized that some nights I would wake up out of breath. I would cough. And at some point I went to a doctor because I was wondering what was happening to me. At what time was that? It was in January, January 2022. In January, I went to see a doctor and he told me that it was bronchitis and that I needed three to four weeks for it to heal. And at that time, you were in Florida.

So you went to a U.S. clinic. Indeed. After that, it only went downhill. I would have to sleep sitting. And I didn't understand what to do. Why would you sleep sitting? Because I couldn't breathe. I would be coughing.

And I told my husband, we need to do something. I couldn't take my walks anymore. So you couldn't go from the hotel to your car? Yes, that's the case. So I decided to go see the doctor. And I went back to the nurse at the clinic. and after taking my lungs she told me to go to the hospital. From there I was in shock because I was wondering what was happening to me.

So that was your second appointment after you've been told that you had bronchitis. You had a second appointment and you've been told to go to the hospital. Exactly. I went to the ER. Then I've been told that I had work. I had fluids in my lungs and I had a 10% injection fraction in my heart. And then I started being afraid of dying. I was in good health before that.

The nurse told me, listen, ma'am, we think that you're suffering from a condition that's linked to the COVID-19 vaccine because we have a young, men here who has the same condition as you. But I'm not 18. And then they started to look for treatments. And how did you react to that news? Well, I was thinking, how come is that possible? Pfizer is supposed to be efficient.

It's a renowned pharmaceutical company. so I couldn't fat on it. So then they told me that they were going to give me some medicine and told me about the side effects and I started using it. So you've been hospitalized for four days to take out the fluids that were in your lungs. Exactly.

And after that, I stayed two weeks for them to be able to adjust the medication before I came back to Canada. And when I came back to Canada, I went to a cardiologist in Cher Rook, who told me the same thing. The cardiologist told you that it was because of the vaccine as well. Yes, there was a young man there

and he was waiting for a heart transplant. And I was feeling lucky that I was still alive even though my heart was working at 10% and that's how it went and I started doing research and getting answers. I also understand that you saw an immunologist

who filled medical reports not only for you to be able to get on the VIA program for Quebec but also that doctor filed a report for Pfizer for your side effects to be reported to Pfizer.

Let's start talking about the vaccination program. You, it's in 2022 that you started getting, that you submitted your application for the program. Yes, in October. And to answer your question is on October, on September 8th, 2025, that, they've informed me that they're starting to study my case. After that, last August, I received an email saying that I would have a hearing this coming October. So it took four years, four years before you had the chance to be heard for your vaccine injury. Let's go through Pfizer's answer that you received following your doctor's report that was sent to Pfizer.

I won't read the entire thing, but I think it's important that we hear certain excerpts. Pfizer tells you we're sorry to hear of your difficulties following vaccination. they want to mention an option that could be available to you. It's interesting that Pfizer says, Health Canada examined the innocuousness and the safety of the vaccine countless time. In 2020, Health Canada issued a vaccine approval for this vaccine, For people, 16 plus, really in the case of the pandemic, the COVID pandemic. It then allowed approval.

It then approved the vaccine for 12 to 16 years old. And then a full approval for 12 plus. November 9, 2021, Health Canada approved the use of the vaccine for follow-up doses age 12 plus after a first dose. six months previous. And then the five to 11 year olds received approval for the vaccine. In 2022, Health Canada authorized the use of the vaccine for booster shots for 12 to 19, 12 to 15 years old. And in 2022, Health Canada authorized booster shots for 16 to 17 year olds. In 2020, Health Canada authorized the use of vaccine for booster shots for 11 to 15.

In 2022, Health Canada authorized vaccine use for six months to five-year-olds. Also in 2022, Health Canada authorized bivalent booster shots for 15 years plus. And then it subsequently, approved the bi-valent booster shots for 15 plus. Health Canada carried out an in-depth examination of pre-clinical and clinical information, as well as information on the manufacturing process, to ensure the quality of the vaccine. Following an examination of the available information, Health Canada decided that the available evidence allowed it to approve the vaccine based on knowledge of the risks.

Tens of millions of doses were used in Canada and elsewhere. Pfizer has full confidence in the safety and efficacy of the vaccine based on this evidence. in a case where you are seeking compensation for the vaccination, Pfizer does not believe that your case is valid. It notes that Quebec has a program of a vaccine assistance. Pfizer takes seriously requests such as yours and the information that you provide it. It will help us with our global understanding of vaccines and our vigil. in regard to vaccine. Pfizer is unable to provide the answer you were seeking, but we are sensitive to your

decision, to your situation rather. This Pfizer letter is available in the evidence. So ultimately, Pfizer is just relying on Health Canada. It's turning towards Health Canada to wash its hands of its own responsibility. The FD-720 CAT is what I received. I am sitting on a bomb right now. I don't know how my body is going to react. And I really have had my life taken from me. I understand that you had to have a pacemaker installed. I have a pacemaker, a defibrillator. That has caused problems as well. I've had thrombosis in the arm twice, serious bleeding, and I still have trouble with my own. arm, I can't use it properly. I'm relying on my partner to help me. You also take anticoagulants

constantly. That's right. I'll be taking them for life. I'm still worried about hurting myself somehow and bleeding, bleeding to death. There are arrhythmias. I don't think that my pacemaker could deal with it. I'll have to add drugs in that case. which I probably won't be able to withstand. So truly things are not rosy. You also mentioned that you're retired because you wanted to travel. And what of your plans today?

I've given up on it. I can't be far away. I need treatment. If ever I'm far away and I'd be treatment, well, that's inconceivable. And this is what I think. about what's been the worst for you through all this process. First of all, we rely to. I'm still trying to get the truth like many of us here. I hope that we'll receive it one day.

But I am a shadow of myself. I used to be full of energy, ready for anything. Now I can't work standing up for too long. I have to sit down. Otherwise, I'll go completely nuts. You had to reduce your work hours to 15 hours a week. That's right. I can't do more than five hours a day because I just become exhausted. I have no energy. If I do too much in a day, which is something I still try to do, then I'll pay for it the next day.

Absolutely. So my life is very limited. You told me that you have gone from being autonomous, independent to someone who relies on their partner for daily errands and tasks, for driving, to be able to carry out activities, and every single day you have to gauge how much energy you have before undertaking something. A lot of the problem is the anxiety. I don't want to take antidepressants. I know how they can affect us, but I'm dealing with all that as well at the same time. I'll let the MPs comment or question.

Here. And we appreciate your journey too. Thanks to you. No. And so I just wanted to know, how does this affect the family in terms of your family? in terms of your immediate family or maybe even extended? It does because I lost a brother for a pancreas cancer during the COVID.

One of my daughter had cervical cancer. She's okay, but she had a hysterectomy. So it frightens me. My mother doesn't do well. She has heart problems too. And I'm afraid from the long term because this is a poison in us. So we don't know what's going to happen in the future. It doesn't go away.

It's in us. So my husband is okay. He's a great help. Thank God I have him. And my children are probably listening to me today. and they are my sunshines. I want to say thank you very much for taking the time to be here and sharing your experiences. We really appreciate you.

Thank you very much. Our next witness is Joseph Pritchard. Joseph, will you put the Bible in your right hand? Joseph Pritchard, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. so help you got. I do. I'd like to introduce you to the inquiry, but first I want to point out,

you're going to be describing some injuries. You didn't have COVID when you were injured. This is, and another thing is that when we were having earlier conversations, you made it clear to me that because you were in a coma, you have some memory issues. Yeah, brain fog, much like some of the other

people here today. Right. So we just need to be patient with you, perhaps, depending on how things go. So not that we were going to be impatient anyway. You were 46. So when all of this happened, you'd be around 41. I was. You were a project manager. You built commercial buildings, houses.

You were involved with an elevator company. You know, you'd move machines. You're basically very involved in things like that. Very physical. You were healthy before vaccination. I was. I worked out five days a week. Yeah,

which is one of those things. So when you say worked out, you mean go to the gym. With a personal rate. So a serious bodybuilder. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. But I put it in a lot of effort to stay healthy

and avoid those things that come with aging, right? Yeah. You're at work by 6 a.m. you were telling me, you're lifting stuff all day, you have energy and focus, very active and healthy, and no medications. So which tells us that you're not being managed on anything. I actually, usually I wait until we go through, you know, the test a little bit. I want to get your photos right away. They're very good. Before you describe things. So, David, can we have the first photo? And so tell us about this photo. You're healthy in this photo. I was at lunch.

and I actually just got my haircut the day before and somebody wanted to see it. So I just happened to have that photo in my phone so I shared it with you. Right. Yeah. So this is a selfie before you're vaccinated and you're healthy. And for a little bit of a contrast, let's go to the next photo. Yeah. I must have been in the middle of my coma at that point, as you can tell.

And if you look carefully at my stomach, that wasn't from burgers and whatnot. There was a football-sized cyst in my stomach at that point that was exploding and had me septic. If you notice how swollen my arms, my hands, and my neck is there, it was leaking and causing me multi-organ failure. So it was at this point that I told my family to make my funeral arrangements, and these were the photos. I think I stole them from my dad's phone. of me, you know, I guess your family members take pictures of you so they can show everybody what happened on the way out, right? And so I decided to do it to share them with you guys today. Yeah, I have to tell you that I've looked at this photo on several locations, and every time I see this photo, I get angry.

I do too, so I'm trying to look at it. Yeah, and I'm not trying to be rude, but I didn't. know you could put that many tubes down somebody's throat. If there's another picture I sent you, it's more back more and it has more of the machines. As my father said, I was hooked up to everything in the hospital, dialysis. I think you can actually see the dialysis machine in the back. I had banks of those IV machines with, they call them channels and all the little bags and whatnot. I had, you know, they actually installed tubes coming into places you wouldn't accept normally see tubes.

Like in my chest, I had a tube, I had tubes coming out of my arm, I had wires in my feet. I have a small quarter-sized circle on the back of my head that I guess they had to put some sensor in. So I just tell everybody I was in the Matrix for a while. So, you know, they kind of get a good laugh at that one. Right. So I hope this photo is still on the screen for the online audience. So just to recap, again, several things are going on.

So first of all, you're in a coma. you're not aware when this photo is taken. Your stomach is extended because as you described it, there's like a football size cyst, but it's burst and you're septic. It was leaking, yes. It was 32 centimeters, according to the doctor.

Right. And so that's part of the reason why you're so bloated. Like when we look at your neck, like we looked at that picture before. It's like your neck today. This is like a triple, triple chin, you've got so much water and your arms are so large. Yeah. So can we go to the next photo? So this photo was taken a month or two later and

the young man in the photo with me, I've grown up with him, he's like a nephew to me, and he was brought into the hospital. So I unhooked all my machines and told them, you know, I thought I'd never see him again. And when they brought him into the ER, he collapsed playing soccer. I'm not, I can't remember what happened to him. I insisted on going down to see him. And when I came in the room, he didn't even know it was me. As you can see, it was a big difference in the picture from two months before. Yeah, I picked this picture to show how much weight you had lost. Yep, I was, I think in the last boat, I was over 300 pounds. I normally walk around

at about 240, and in that picture, I was 152 or 153 pounds. Yeah, no, it's a visible difference. Yep. And I noticed I had the raccoon eyes like we were talking about before. Hair loss. Unfortunately, I'm not hooked up to all the machines there, so I was only allowed to be in the ER for a few minutes before they wheeled me back up to the other room and hook me back up again. Right. Well, and that in itself is part of the story. So when this picture's taken, your treatment protocol is so strict that basically you're confined to bed because you've got all these tubes in you. Right. And different machines running. Right.

Okay, well, let's talk about your experience then. You get your first shot, a Pfizer shot on May 20th, 2021. What happens? It wasn't immediate onset. I like to think I'm tougher than most people and things take longer to get to me. But, you know, you start feeling off. You don't feel yourself. It was during the pandemic, so things were slowing down.

And, you know, we weren't as busy as we normally. are. So I maybe figured, you know, I'm skipping the gym now and I'm maybe that's why. But I did notice that I started feeling what the doctors started saying was hypertension. Oh, you have high blood pressure. That's weird. You've had high blood pressure before. Could this be COVID? No, you're over your 40s now. This is what happens. It's part of the aging process. So I just want to stop you here because you are at the time 41. You, you know, are going to the gym five days a week. You're like on your feet working all day, lifting, doing things.

You've never had high blood pressure. And you're being told this is just, oh, it's because you're in your 40s now. You're like your 41. Yeah. So the degree you got high blood pressure, did they, was there any testing? Was where you put on any medications? Yes, there was some standard medication. I can't remember what it was called now, but they said this is what everybody takes who has high blood pressure.

I believe my resting blood pressure was like 160 over 100, which is pretty significant. And I remember thinking like, something's not right here. But maybe I just work out more and eat a little bit better and it will go away because, you know, it definitely wasn't the vaccine according to the doctor I spoke to at the time. Now, you're also weak and you're having sweating. issues around that time. Can you share with us about those? You know, you don't feel great. You're sweating. You get little hot flashes like, you know, almost like you're nervous. And, you know, I thought maybe I just need to do better at the gym.

Like, this is terrible. I don't feel that well. And, you know, I didn't think to question that it was the vaccine. I did initially and they just said it was aging. And I really wish that, you know, somebody had said, hey, maybe you should go get a little more testing because I could have probably prevented all of this. And I'm just going to stop you there because this seems to be a common theme. And it's something I think we need to point out is we've had several witnesses indicate that if they had been recognized as vaccine injured and then treated for their injuries that a lot of the suffering and deterioration that they suffered, could have been stopped then. Like the story could have been different, and that's your case also.

Good. It could have prevented everything that followed, you know, from New Year's Eve of 2021, which was about five months before, or four months before that picture was taken. Okay. So your blood pressure is high,

you're weak, you're sweating all the time. You're also having temperature problems in bed. Yes. So I, one of my good friends that I work out with, he's a personal trainer. I remember telling him that I had like three different temperature zones on my body. I had one set of blankets which were heavier for my legs. Then I had basically a light sheet over my stomach.

And then I had a different blanket over my chest and up on my neck. And I remember him looking at me, he's like, she'd go to the doctor and get checked out. He goes, this is abnormal. And I said, well, you know, it's COVID. You just can't get into a doctor. It's very hard, right? And I had, this would have been getting close to my booster shot.

I remember having that discussion with him saying like, you know, something's not right. Okay, so you have July 21st, 2021, you get your second shot. That was Pfizer also? It was also Pfizer. And tell us what happens. Just more of the same. That discussion we just had was after the second shot. Okay.

So things have just gradually gotten worse. And, you know, it wasn't until there's a picture of me I didn't include it that was taken around September of that year. And my friend's mother, who's a chronically ill person, looked at me, she goes, you know, you're swelling up. Because your face, you don't look right, your lips and everything. And I said, well, you know, maybe I'm just putting weight on because you haven't been working. And in hindsight, she saw it coming. She said, you know, if something's wrong with you, you need to go get checked out. You're going to be in big trouble.

And I dismissed it. thinking that, you know, what does she know? She's not a doctor, right? Like the CBC said, you know, your crazy relative's not always right. She was. There's a lot of that going around. So December 27, 2021, you get your booster. Right.

I actually didn't remember this conversation up until a friend of mine reminded me about it. He goes, do you remember you called me? Because he had his booster about a week before. And I said to him, I really don't feel well. I'm going to go back to the hospital and get checked out. And I thought maybe, you know, it says you have a reaction after the vaccine. You might feel unwell for a short period of time. So I'll just go home and see how it plays out.

And that's what I did. And then all hell broke loose on December 31st. So that's when I went back into the hospital. And it was actually rushed to the hospital because I thought it was having a heart attack. And what I didn't know was the cyst had started to erupt and explode, and I was having an acute necrotizing pancreatitis attack. No, at that time, you're throwing up. What are you throwing up?

I'm throwing up, well, first you empty out your stomach, and then I was drinking a lot of the fluids to try and replace the stuff that had come out, and then I started throwing up this black stuff and stomach bile. It looks like something straight out of a movie. I have a picture of the nurse holding it up somewhere. It looks like a black picture full of nasty file or I don't know what to describe it as, but it doesn't look right. It looks like you're in a horror movie.

And, you know, I just kept coming out and coming out. And I guess it was leaking through my cyst. I'm not sure how it actually happened, but it was extremely, it freaked me out. So I was in the hospital saying, hey, look, you know, I go to the bathroom and nothing but blood would come out. And they were just, okay, we'll have to give you an MRI and do your blood work and go wait in the hall. We'll, you know how it goes. Right. My understanding also is you're having really extreme pains.

Yes. And you described it to me as like as if you're shot with a shotgun. Yes, big shotgun. And right here where my pancreas was. And I remember on the way to the hospital, my friend drove me, and he stopped at a red light. And I just looked at him and started trying to push his leg to go on the gas. gas and we got to go. Like, I'm not going to make it if you don't hurry. And, uh, I know when we got there, um, they were good enough to rush me right in and hook me up to an AKG because I thought it

was my heart. But turns out your pancreas is over in this neighborhood too. So, um, you know, as soon as they thought, uh, I wasn't having a heart attack, then they kind of put me on the back burner and gave me a scan thinking maybe, you know, being New Year's Eve, I was there for a another reason that was left on us. Well, let's, no, let's, let's go there. You, you were actually, it was made clear to you that they have no interest in treating you because they think you're there at drug seeking. Correct. And because I operated heavy trucks and machinery, I would always have blood tests done. And I'm always on top of my health. I go for yearly these wide spectrum blood tests. And I said to them, I said, if you'd like, check my file. I don't use drugs. I've never used

drugs. And you'll be able to see that in my medical records. But being New Year's Eve, I guess there's a few people who thought it would be, you know, I was there to extend the party of some kind, right? Right. Now, okay, so they basically dismissed you on New Year's seat, but you end up right back then. Right. So I ended up going home and I ended up getting a phone call from the doctor at the hospital and he asked where I was. And I was back home in bed because, you know, being in the hallway of a hospital is very uncomfortable. So I went back home again and the doctor called and told me I was extremely sick and they were going to send an ambulance for me and come pick me back up because I need to get to the hospital because I wouldn't be alive if I didn't get there fast. And that's because they had done a CT scan and finally looked at it.

And I saw what was going on. So I went back into the hospital and I'm not sure where they put me, but I think I went straight into the ICU. I can't really remember. But I just remember more and more doctors coming in and having more and more tubes and then they hit you right away with heavy-duty drugs and everything starts becoming kind of blurry and blended together. Right. It was communicated that you weren't likely to survive, though, right? Right. Before they put me into the coma, one of the nurses came over and kind of held my hand, and she said, you know, you're going to have to fight like hell and you might not make it through this or something to that effect. And I just looked at her and I said, okay. And I remember one of the nurses was sitting there and I mistook her for another person I knew. I thought it was a friend in the room. So I thought very carefully about one of my last words to be. So I looked at her and I smiled. I thought, all right, let's rock and roll. And that was it. And then I remember waking up after the coma,

and my nurse was standing there going welcome back. And that was about three weeks later. And you were in the hospital for roughly five months? Almost six, almost six months. And I think they would have kept me there longer, but I'm a bit of a fussy patient. And I told them as soon as my legs work well enough to get out of here, I'm going home. because, you know, I felt I was in almost like a prison, you know. And it's not a very nice place to be living, especially during the pandemic. I mean, the worst thing was you'd see doves on the door. And that meant the person had passed away and they're supposed to give them space to agree with their loved one.

And mostly, like, especially in the ICU, there was just body bags going by constantly. And, you know, you're sitting there intubated, looking at everything. And it's quite scary because you're, you know, you realize. that you could be in the next one leaving that hospital, right? And, you know, there's no coming back from this. This is, this is it. You're right there on desk door. And I just used that to fight harder to get back here today. Right. So you ended up, you spoke about this cyst, and it, it was a problem. It kept growing. It's the size of a football. Now, it was started by a blood clasp, right? It was. And I should also point out, I've heard a few people mention it.

I also had a deep vein, bromosis, I believe it's called. I sent you a picture in my right leg. So my right leg's curdily at 35% circulation. And I'm guessing we'll be amputated one day in the not too distant future. They haven't said it, but, you know, I'm fully diabetic now that cysts took out my pancreas.

So you have a tail on your pancreas, and apparently mine's missing or disfigured so badly that at my last urologist appointment, he would look at it, and he told him he's never seen a living person with a pancreas like mine. And I just told them, I go, you know, if you look at my medical file, you realize that I'm kind of like the Harry Potter of the place, right? I've, you know, I kind of beat it and I feel very lucky.

With the deep vein thrombosis, I had to have three separate surgeries to get it corrected. So I guess it was a very bad one. Two at one hospital and then halfway through, they paused and threw me in a real ambulance and took me up to another hospital where they managed to tackle it. So it was a great. And that affects the way you walk today because you've only got 35% circulation in that leg. So can you tell us about your walking? You know, you have to work at it every day.

I don't just walk. I look at where I'm going. I have to be very careful. Like some of the other people said, when you go to the mall, I almost have to go like this when I'm walking. Because if somebody steps in my foot and causes an injury, I'll lose it. So I'm very careful, especially when you go get groceries or you go to a crowded place. I just don't go. I'll just wait in the car and send in, you know, either.

the person I live with or I'll ask a friend to go in because, you know, somebody steps on your foot, you might not ever have it again. Right. And you're limited to how far you can go also. Right. I mean, some days, I don't leave my, my apartment. Some days I try and walk around the block. If I have a good day, I'll keep going until it starts hurting. You know, it's a daily fight. And you have to keep your leg elevated for a large time. So at home, currently I'm still waiting for the vaccine injury program or whatever it's called these days to acknowledge me. But I've had a makeshift leg elevation thing. I think I sent you a picture of it. I basically was a laundry basket with pillow shoved in it and I sleep with my feet like this. Now it doesn't work that well because as soon as you fall asleep, usually the whole contraction falls over.

But, you know, it's working, you know, the majority of the day I'll sit there like that and I watch a lot of TV and between, you know, I'll get up and walk for 20 minutes around the apartment or I'll go walk around the building and then come back in and put my legs back up again to make sure that the The feeder above the heart, which is what they tell you to do to induce circulation Right, and I You've had kidney damage because of this you've had liver damage because of this for a period of time you had to wear diapers Yes, there was no control over my body I know I look fairly well these days and your wife even pointed out, I looked like security. And, you know, it made me feel pretty good because I don't look

like that anymore. But yeah, I mean, you wouldn't go anywhere. Like even to this day, I have to have a bathroom within, you know, walking, a short walking distance from my room because in the middle of the night, you'll wake up, and if you don't get there in time, you're doing laundry, you know. And it's embarrassing to be doing that in your 40s. That's something you should be doing in your infinite age and maybe in the end, you know, when you're on your way to heaven. But, you know, at 40, 41 and 42, you shouldn't be doing this. It's not normal. And you also feel sick all of the time. Yes. I've got borderline chronic pancreatitis now. I'm off dialysis finally before I left the hospital. They

finished that up. My kidneys and my liver came back. I can't go anywhere near alcohol. Not that I ever did, but you know if somebody's having a toast, I'm doing it with water. I drink mostly water and the odd time I'll have like a little soda, you know, the zero sugar thing, but you have to be very careful what you put in. Like if I decide to go over and have a steak, I'm paying for it. And even if I take my little pills, I have to eat every time called Creon, my pancreas, you're still sick afterwards. If I eat anything high fat, I'm instantly sick. And you're also in pain. Yes, throughout my whole body. My throat went 80% necrotic.

My thoracic surgeon was very concerned, apparently, when I was in the hospital, that I'd have to have my throat rebuilt, and I might just have to have a hole put in because this was all damaged and wouldn't come back. And the last time I saw her, she did the camera down my throat inspection. She said that it actually became grossly normal, whatever that means. So, you know, like certain food you can't eat, they'll stick in there. Sometimes if I take pills and I don't water them down,

I can cough them back up when I'm out walking, which is kind of odd. I'm guessing they get stuck in the ridges in there. So the reason why I'm not wearing a tie today is for that reason is this is very sensitive and hurts. So if I give this a good grab, I mean, it feels like the Terminator grabbed me by my neck. And it's extremely painful. The pancreatitis is painful. My leg is painful. And then much like Shannon described, I have that electric, I call them electric seizures.

I don't know what the right term for them is, but your basic nerves all start firing and you start doing the jiggle. And it's happening less and less as time goes on, which I'm thankful for. But for the first year, I'd just be walking, I'd fall on the ground and start, sorry, I'd be hanging onto the wall and walking, and then I'd fall over and start doing the shakes. And people think you're having a seizure. And just leave me alone for half an hour, I'll be fine, you know.

Like half an hour. So what's been the most difficult part? about this? Trying to get help. You know, I've been diagnosed with major PTSD and all kinds of different variations of it. And I just kind of smile because there's been no help. And, you know, you go to the doctors and try and find a specialist, which a lot of my specialists have left and then my doctor, my current GP has been fighting tooth and nail to

get me to new doctors. You know, you just said there's not the help out there that you think there is. I've had no offer for help for the PTSD other than some stuff that the hospital recommended. that would be paid for by BISP or VAP or whatever it's called these days. And, you know, it's very expensive. It was like $50,000 or $60,000. And, you know, I've been fighting with them. I applied right away.

Like many of the other people here, I had a hard time to get my doctor to sign it. And he took him a while to read through everything, and he signed it. And I joined the program. And, you know, I kind of made a little list of all the things that I'm going to need. And there's been radio silence. They told me that they got my records, and then they had to take my name off them because I might find it. My privacy was violated. And then they told me, sir, you're going to be up in three, four months for your review.

And I got really excited that help was on the way. And after the couple of months, I called in or emailed them. And they said, sorry, sir, we've had some issues. It'll be another couple months. So, okay, wait another couple months. And then after a while, they just told me, sorry, we've lost, you know, we're handing it over to Health Canada. And good luck to you, sir. You can deal with them.

So like everybody else in this room, I'm sure I'm waiting as well for even here when my appointment's going to be to get my review done. Thank you, Mr. Pritch. I got some questions from here, Mr. Ruff. Thank you. You started answering my question or I was going to go with this because you said you've applied through the vaccine injury support program, now the vaccine impact assistant program, and you're now sort of in limbo. Right. So can you just elaborate a bit more on the timelines that you're talking about here? the last time you had sort of feedback from... So I called them after...

I did all the participating on the line on... They had those little video sessions. And I talked to this person a while ago, and they said, we saw your emails, we included the emails from the last program where they're giving the runaround. And they said, well, unfortunately, you know, we're just getting going, but they said,

we have to put you back to, like, you're not at the medical stage, you have to go back a step. And I was like, I was like, okay, well, like, you know, can you just put me where I was before? And they said, well, we're going to try and get you through the program by the end of the year, try and get you in front of the medical board. But this was in May. And then the last time I talked to them, they just said, you know, I was in Q that they didn't make,

the lady did mention that I had a ton of, she goes, you have a really huge file. And I said, oh, I know. You know, I know it's a lot to go through. But, I mean, it's pretty obvious that, you know, you don't have four or five major things go wrong all within, you know, a short period of time. time like that and they just said we'll get back to you so I mean you know people have your life in their hands you're not going to call them up every five minutes and be a pest right I hang up on people like that so I'm trying not to do that right and you know I need the help like I need you know I can't work anymore even coming here I didn't want to come I thought a couple times about

pulling out because this is a lot like I like to be at home I have a shelf full of medication I have to take five six needles a day to be here as an inconvenience and um uh uh you to taking care of myself, but I thought it was necessary to come. I do hope that they will get back to me. I mean, you always remain positive that helps on the way. You know, it's like you don't want to be negative and think that they're not, but, you know, at some point, you know, I don't know if it's okay to say this or not, but the government said if you take this and something happens, we'll take care of you.

And you're all scrutinized and going through this program, and it's making me upset. I see President Zelensky. He shows up in Canada and he doesn't have to submit doctor's notes and do all this stuff or even have his financials looked at to see what he has. And he gets billions of dollars. And then I see that they're giving millions of dollars away to other countries where they've got motorcycles. You know, I used to ride motorcycles.

I'd like one, right? I could ride it to my appointments. And then here I am that took their shot on their advice because they said I had to if I wanted to go to a restaurant or if I wanted to travel or do any of these things. And I got sick. I get as a phone call saying we're going to think about it. It's like teasing somebody hungry with a nice juicy steak or a nice juicy meal. It's cruel what you're doing. I mean, all these people, we don't have a time machine. We can't go back and stop ourselves, which I wish I could,

and say, no, no, no, this is not what you think it is. We just want help so we can spend the remainder of our days and have some kind of help and comfort and not worried about homeless. I'm sure everybody saw the homeless people on the benches around here. And I worried I'm going to end up like that. And I probably would have ended up like that if it wasn't for friends and family who've given me a place to stay or some money or, you know,

even I don't know when it's time to take my medications. One of my friends gave me a smartwatch. So it beeps at me when it's time to take one of my 15 or 20 medications, which has been very helpful. But that was this program's job to do. And they haven't done it yet. All they've done has made me very angry

and, you know, I have to sit here and bite my tongue because I have some words I like to use, but I promise, Sean, I wouldn't. Where's home? I live in York region. Thank you, John. Richard, thank you very much for coming in and sharing that. And thank you, Mr. Allison, because, you know, everybody here is, you know, it's a big parliament building and there's a lot of MPs and we only have, you know, three here.

I think it's three, right? So, you know, I appreciate the work you guys are doing because this needs to be heard. and I know Canada takes care of everybody else, but me and everybody else who's come here, we do need help. So thank you very much. Thank you for following my recommendations. So our next witness is Jamie Daniel.

Jamie, will you please take the Bible in your right hand? Jamie Daniel, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you go i do i'd like to introduce you to the inquiry and that want to get out up front that your neurologist tells you quite clearly that this is a vaccine injury that you're going to be sharing with us undoubtedly you are currently 36 which means you were 31 at the time of these events and you've got two children and your husband jeremy who i is the fellow with you. You were an advanced care paramedic and practical nurse.

You've been in that role since you were 18. You were paramedic first. Like this is your passion, was to be a first responder. And there are different levels of paramedic. But in advanced care paramedic, like, that's the full scale. That's like four years of training to get to that level. So I just want people to understand. that we have a first responder and thank you for your service.

Thank you. And as far as health went, prior to what you're going to describe for us, you had rheumatoid arthritis, but that was being managed. I mean, we're going to get into, I mean, you were working full-time, 12-hour shifts, moving people and doing all the ambulance things. You were 100% functional. Yes. So there were no restrictions on your lifestyle.

You're managing home, your family, your daughter. You're going to the gym two or three times a week. You would swim, rock climb, camp, outdoor stuff. And basically, no health concerns prior to these vaccines. Can you tell us about your journey with these vaccines? So at the time of the vaccines, as you said, I did have some stable health things, but they were all well managed and I was not disabled. I was fully functioning.

I was working 12-hour shifts as a paramedic. I held a 0.5 line, which is part-time, but I quite often picked up to full-time hours. I just like the flexibility of picking when I could work. We were managing our home together, about 50-50 responsibilities. At the time, our daughter was 18 months old, our first daughter, parenting, looking after her, doing extremely well. Being a first responder, I was one of the first waves of people chosen to go get the vaccine. And I was excited. I was over the moon excited that I could go and do this service for my country, get the vaccine that we'd been told had been very similar. It's been studied. It's safe. It's effective. And of the healthcare practitioner, I worked with people who are high risk. We have high risk members of our family. And this is something I could do to help. And I was so excited to go get that vaccine. And I went. I have a picture of me smiling at the vaccine clinic being like, yes, everybody, go get your vaccine. Vaccine saved last. because they do, but this is not a vaccine.

This is something completely different. Within hours, I had flu-like symptoms. I was in bed. I remember clearly with a bucket because I was nauseous, I was throwing up, I had fevers and chills, I just felt generally unwell. Fluke symptoms, normal vaccine. I chose not to take any Advil or Tylenol at that time

because my knowledge knew is that's the immune response. This is what's supposed to be happening. Went to bed that night, very uncomfortable, woke up the next morning in excruciating pain. Severe pain to my back, down to my legs, some weakness. It felt like I had previously herniated my back years ago that had been fully rehabbed, and it felt like I was herniating my back over and over and over and over again, and I knew something was wrong. I did everything I could think of at home to manage it, Advil Tylenol, heat, ice, compression, doing some Z-line, like, you name it.

I did everything I could because I was not going to go to the hospital for this, because I don't go to the hospital for things. I take people to the hospital, but within about 24 to 48 hours, it became very clear that I needed to go to a merge. I started presenting with something called saddle pariscia. So if you think of when you're sitting on a horse, anything that would touch the saddle of the horse went completely numb. And it felt like I had an ice pick going into my spinal cord over and over again.

Jamie, can I just slow you down? And the reason is, is we have some very nice people in the translation booth that are trying to translate in real time. Okay. What you're saying in English into French. And they've been very nice to us, so I'm asking you to be nice to them. So if you can try, I know it's stressful to be here and speak to people. And we're so grateful that you're here. But if you can just try and slow it down a little bit, thank you.

So I knew something was wrong. I had medical knowledge. I could tell this was presenting like a severe spinal cord injury. I went to the hospital. My husband had wanted to call an ambulance, but I would not let him. Because it would have been one of my co-workers that would have picked me up. So we went to the hospital, and I remember being taken back to a room right away. Now, can I just slow you down?

Because I want people to really understand what's going on. My understanding is you're experiencing, extreme weakness to the point that you're having trouble walking. Yes. So can you explain that for us? It was so severe that my husband, like I said, wanted to call an ambulance and I refused. So I was so weak and in so much pain, I was literally crawling across the floor to get out of the house. I needed a wheelchair once we got to the emergency department.

And they took me straight back to a room because it did present like a severe spinal cord injury. I was having overflow urinary. I'm going to say, okay, urinary. That's what I was going. You were losing sensation. I lost all sensation into my groin, my inner thighs, still with the extreme pain, and I started having overflow urinary incontinence. I could not feel when I needed to void, so I did not void, so then it would overflow.

They took imaging at the hospital, but determined that it was most likely surgical, something called cata equine. so they transferred me to a different hospital via ambulance, my worst nightmare, to a different hospital so I can meet with the spinal surgery team. Once I got there, they finally had my imaging results, and I met with the spinal surgeon, and he said that there is nothing obvious on my MRI, that it was probably just a bad day. Not quite sure how that works. They ended up releasing me from that hospital. I just need to stop you here. So you're, what, 31? You're an excruciating pain.

You're so weak. You're having, there's times you cannot walk. Yes. You've lost sensation in your groin and really bladder control because you don't know. You didn't talk about, but your bowels have stopped working also. Yes. So for most of us listening to this, we would be. thinking that you are in an absolute medical crisis. Yes. And yet you are sent home.

They made me walk out of the emergency department, and I clearly remember collapsing on the floor, and the emergency didn't do anything about it, but security eventually brought me a wheelchair to wheel me to the front door for my husband to pick me up. Okay, we need to unpack this. So the emergency people are telling you, you have to leave, and they're expecting you to walk. Because my imaging was normal. Right. So they're totally ignoring what you're telling them. Yes.

And so you try to walk, but you can't walk. Yes. So you fall to the floor. Yes. So you are now on the hospital floor. Right? And there's nurses around. Yep.

And they just leave you on the hospital floor. Yes. But eventually, security feels sorry for this woman. laying on the floor. Yes. So they bring a wheelchair. Yes. I think everyone participating in this is feeling some collective guilt over how you were treated.

Can you carry on and let us know? You eventually figured out what was wrong. They eventually gave you a diagnosis, not that day. So I went home and I ended up presenting. I can't remember if it was two or three more times to the emergency department. I was called a drug seeker. I was told I was having anxiety. I was told it was my rheumatoid arthritis,

but none of these symptoms were any of those things. Eventually I got admitted, not due to the severe pain, but because I was peeing myself. And I got belittled in the emergency department by several healthcare members being like, why did you just pee the bed? What do you mean? Why did I pee the bed?

I have no sensation. I have no control. I ended up being admitted for a week. I needed in and out catheterization. I needed extensive bowel management to be able to get my bowels to work again. They did eventually treat my pain. There was a hush about maybe it's transverse my latest, but nobody would ever come out and actually say that while I was admitted. They released me. I went back and looked after our conversation of back pain and you urinary incontinence not yet diagnosed. That was my discharge papers. Luckily or unlikely, I had previously had migraines,

had been discharged from neurology entirely because my migraines were managed, but my neurologist had said, if anything ever comes up, call me. And I knew that this was neurological, so I called his office, and he got me in as soon as he could. It was a month or so. It was a while, anyways. But eventually, I remained off. work. I had severe pain, fatigue, overflow incontinence. I still had no sensation to my bladder,

but I could manage it with three-hour time going to the washroom. I could barely walk a lot of days. I was so fatigued, I could barely get out of bed. But eventually I saw my neurologist and blessed this man as soon as he assessed me. As soon as he went over my history, it's like, but this is trance versus my latest. I was like, I know that. It's like, but why didn't they know that at the hospital? there's other treatments we could have given you in the hospital for TM because nobody wanted to associate it with my vaccine. Which would be the explanation for it in the first place. Yes, and so he was, I can't remember how long until I had seen him,

but he was the first one who actually came out and said, like, for sure, 100%. You have MRI negative transverse my latest from the COVID vaccine. Right, and he had no trouble reaching that conclusion. You had heard whispers of that when you were being, what I would describe as mistreated. Yes. In emergency. So do you think this is a case where basically you were left to suffer and not being treated properly because nobody could admit that this was vaccine injury?

Yes. So recently you went to emergency in July. Yes. I have approximately yearly relapses of my transverse myelitis, although my symptoms have fully gone away. Right. So you're in back pain every day. Yes. You're in pain now. Yes. On a scale of 1 to 10, where are you now? Today my pain's about five. I take multiple medications to manage that. Most of my time is spent managing my medical conditions. It is evolved into multiple medical conditions outside of the transverse myelitis. Most people refer to it as a

neuroimmune problem. So one thing has cascaded into another, into another, into another. Right. And you also have what's called post-exertion malaise. Yes. And basically that if you exert yourself in any way, basically you get fatigue that's completely out of proportion to your exertion. Yes. What are going to be the consequences to you physically for coming here to testify at the Ellison employer? Well, to start, before I even came here,

I had to start prepping. I removed anything from my schedule for several days so that I could rest. I arranged child care for my children to make sure that somebody was available to drive them back and forth to school. Next week when I go home, I've also arranged child care every single day for my children because I will probably be too exhausted to get out of bed to care for them. We'll have

grandparents drive them to and from school. My husband almost exclusively does all of our cooking now. We have a housekeeper once a month because I can't maintain heavy housekeeping. I just want to slow you down. So just to be able to come here today, you had to be clear responsibilities, including child care, from your schedules. Your kids cannot interrupt you. And you've been resting for days. Yes. So that you could kind of put some energy in the bank to be able to come here.

Yes. And you've already cleared your schedule for a week. So that, because you expect basically being in bed for a week, including heightened pain, flare up. You basically anticipate suffering. Yes. And I also anticipate a worsening of my complex post-traumatic stress disorder as well from this experience. Even though I feel like it's very important for me to be here and the stories are very powerful, I know it will affect me psychologically as well. Okay, do you want to tell us about your PTSD?

So I was a first responder and even before the COVID vaccine, I still had a diagnosis of PTSD. But I was just seeing a therapist and working. I was functional. They had no concerns about me continuing. to serve as an ACP. The medical gaslighting and destruction that I went through with our healthcare system was horrific.

It was nothing I could have ever anticipated. I proudly served our medical system and it abandoned me. And there was exactly one moment that every ounce of faith I had in the system was destroyed. And it's also the moment that my severe severe PTSD became such a significant problem that I was partnered with Kevin. I was admitted to the hospital again.

And I'm just going to stop because the camera doesn't show this. Oh. You basically have an emotional support dog named Kevin. He's actually a fully certified service animal. So he is recognized by the Alberta government and placed with an organization for full service animal status to mitigate a disability. Right. And in your place, it's PTSD.

Yes. So it's Kevin being with you all the time. Yes. Helps you, you know, remain calmer and less fearful and stress. Yes, we've been partnered for a year now and he's been wonderful. And we had to put Kevin on the list to get him. Because he has his own ID. He had to have his own tag.

Get in. Just because people watching don't know this is a parliamentary building. And so you have to get through security and the metal detector and all of that fun stuff. and you have to be on the list. So carry on carrying it, talking about mental trauma. So you're describing, starting to describe that for us. So I remained off work and about a year and a bit after my initial injury in June 2020. My infant had been hospitalized.

She almost died. She was in ICU. When she got out of ICU between, she had had a virus that also affects the immune system, which is a known trigger for relapses of transverse myelitis. Between the virus, the stress, the physical task of being in ICU and in the hospital for a week caring for her when I have complex pain, emotional issues, I myself ended up being readmitted to the hospital for a week with a complete relapse of my transverse myelitis.

My neurologist at the time was like, absolutely, it is a relapse of your transverse myelitis. You need to go get pain management and you need to go get steroids. The first time I went to the hospital, they agreed, but when they call, and my husband had had to go out away for town, so he was trying to arrange a flight to come home to care for our children. The first time I went to the emergency department, the emergency physician agreed, yeah, this sounds like TM. We'll get everything sorted. They sent a neurologist to consult on me who's like, no, absolutely not. She's a drug seeker. She's just here for pain management.

Yes, I'm here for pain management because my neurologist told me to come to the hospital for pain management and steroids. And then at that point, he said, and it's, you know, she's a drug seeker. It's probably not even her TM. It's obviously her rheumatoid arthritis, which is why I'm peeing myself, which is why I have no sensation, which is why I feel like there's an ice pick stuck in my spine. So I got sent home. Luckily, I had had an appointment with my rheumatologist's. that week. And my husband basically, again, had to carry me into that appointment. And she looked at me and she was horrified. She had never seen me like this. She had never seen me in such significant

suffering that she called the hospital, doctor to doctor immediately and was like, you will admit her, you will treat her for pain, and you will get this figured out. So we went back to the hospital and luckily I did get a bed. I got treated. I got admitted. They preferred a functional pain disorder instead of the transverse myelitis, even though all of my other providers were like, this is TM. And I remember breaking down crying. After all of this being happening, I was crying and bawling to my team saying, I can't live like this anymore. I can't live like this. I was not suicidal. I was asking for help. And at this moment, instead of helping me, they brought in a psychologist to talk to me about meat, medical assistance in dying.

I was in my early 30s. I had a baby at home that had just been in ICU. I was barely out of the postpartum period. My hormones hadn't settled. I was admitted for pain crisis on heavy duty narcotics. And I was asking for help, and instead they offered to euthanize me. Three year olds old and three or four months old was my little one at the time. And they were just, instead of treating my pain, instead of finding me help,

finding me help, they wanted to euthanize me. That moment broke me. It broke my husband. It broke my family. That was the moment that any faith in the medical system that I so proudly served for years was gone. And then it just continued because after that I still had severe pain, severe disability. That was in summer 2022. And then I helped. out hope that maybe the government, all my faith in the medical system was gone. All of my faith in, you know, even my co-workers, the people who, our friend group, the people who are supposed to have me outside of my husband, our immediate family, and a handful of people. My faith in everything was gone, but I held out faith at the government. They're like, we got you. If something

goes wrong, we've got you. And then in January of 2023, so six months after this event, of which I had walked with a cane for most of this time as well. Jamie, can I interrupt you? Yeah. We want to ask a couple questions. It may be related just because I've got a couple of the MPs. I want to ask you some information, Mr. Mott. Thank you for sharing your experience.

We have lost our way in society. And I'm sorry that you have had to go through what you've, gone through. It's important that voices like yours don't get lost. And what would you like to see happen as a result of this inquiry? Transparency. We need to talk about what happened. People need to have their stories heard. And we need to have checks and balances in place to help people. They're supposed to be the VISP, and that's about where I was about to go in January of 20, 23, they sent me a letter, didn't even have my name on it. They said that my injury, even though my neurologist said it's transverse myelitis, yeah, there's causation there. We believe that, you know,

it's transient related to your vaccine. But we don't really see that it's transverse myelitis. It's probably your rheumatoid arthritis. And regardless, your injury is not severe or permanent. Denied. I appealed within 60 days, and that was in March, 2023, and I still have no resolution. So I've been off work since February 2021. I was removed. I had a long-term disability through my employer for two years, but then they found that I could not return to being a paramedic.

I could maybe do a job, any employment, because I didn't have the head. healthcare backing from any of professionals to be, my neurologist would be like, yeah, you have transmits my lightest. And my family doctor is like, yeah, you have this. And you have this and you have this. But there's nobody to cumulatively bring it together to be like, hey, everything put together means you can't work anymore. So I went without income for two years until I was finally approved for CPP disability. But to give you an idea of CPP disability, I make $1,600 a month. My out-of-pocket, just medicine costs are $500 a month. That doesn't. include physio, that doesn't include any therapy, that doesn't include anything else.

But when the government, basically, Oxero, the government was represented by Oxero, and they said, no, your injury is not severe, it's not permanent, it broke the last bit of faith that I had. The government said, we've got you. But nobody has us. There's not once, besides the people in this room, the government, the government, that's the There's no one here to support us to help us get through this, to help us navigate. I'm a well-educated, well-spoken person, and I still struggle to get help.

I still get called a drug seeker. I still get called, oh, she's crazy. Oh, she had pre-existing conditions before she got sick. So that's obviously why she's sick. It has nothing to do with the vaccine. Even though I have black and white medical documents that state transverse my light is from COVID vaccine. So if I can't even get help, how does everybody else get help? I have support.

I have a husband and family who have moved mountains. We are able to remortgage our house so that we can survive. But there's so many people that don't have support. What about them? Jamie, thank you very much. And once again, I'm reminded of you as a first responder, we thank you for the work that you do and have done. and having your own community, you know, give you a hard time or turn on you as well.

And that's troubling, but at every level compounds that as well. So thank you very much for coming and sharing your story. Our next witness is Nicole Sador. Nicole, will you take the Bible in the right hand? Nicole Sador, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so have you gone. Yes, I do. You're going to talk about some injuries,

and you did not have COVID when you were injured. No, I did not. Or before you were injured. No, I did not. Now, you're 50 now, so you would have been 45 on the events that we're talking about. You are a single mom now, raising two kids. the fathers of the two children have both passed.

And so, yeah, so they're not there to pick up any slack, which is when we're described in a minute is a concern. Pre-vaccine, you were working at the Odyssey House, which is a woman's shelter for domestic violence. You were working as a community support worker. This was a full-time job. Health-wise, you were like a. an avid swimmer. I didn't pick the photo, but you sent me a photo, which is really a trophy case of swimming trophies where you'd won swimming competitions. You said I was with the master's swimming club. So you were an elite swimmer, and you were still swimming, and you were an avid runner,

you're no medications, no pre-existing things. So you're an extremely healthy young woman at the time of age 45. And then on April 23rd, 2020, you took the Pfizer show. Actually, 21. Sorry, we spoke earlier. Can you share with me what had happened after that? Yeah, so I'll just, I'm just going to say my son's names because I want them on the record. Oh, please, yeah.

So my oldest boy at the time was 13, and he was also very ill at the time. he had been left in the hospital with a ruptured appendix for almost three days, and he almost died. So he was very, very, very sick at the time. My partner who was deceased a year in two days, he was very sick. And so I was working at the Odyssey House, so I had two children, two people in my home that were immune compromise,

and then I had a little one, Lincoln Speed, which I won him on the record as well. He was six at the time. So the email started coming, that I was going to lose my job if I did not take the vaccine. I also had my son's doctors from the Stollary Hospital in Emmington calling me and basically telling me if I did not vaccinate my son, he would die if he got COVID.

And I was made to feel like I was a horrible mother if I did not take this vaccine. So, and I needed my job. I was the breadwinner. And I was barely keeping a roof over our head. And, you know, I've been working since I was 12. I love working. I love my job. So within a couple days after my first vaccine, my hand, this hand, blew up.

It was about that large. And not thinking anything of it because I'm working. I got a busy life. Went to the first doctor to say about talk about my fat hand. That's kind of what I would joke about me and my fat hand. And I went to... But let me slow you down. It was three times the size of normal.

Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, we're not talking minor swelling. We're talking a significant amount of swelling and discomfort in that. Yeah. So I went to the clinic, short of my hand. And I'm not picking up that it's to do with anything. He sent me for an ultrasound, so they did an ultrasound all the way up here, but stopped right here. Got the call, didn't see anything, sent me on my way.

So I continued my life. And the girls at work are like, man, like, you had to go get that checked out. Like, it doesn't look normal, of course. And I went back to that clinic, saw another doctor, and this particular doctor gave me three pills of predazone, said, try this, see if that does anything. And took those, didn't do anything. So then I went back a third time. And this particular doctor told me to put, well, I was sitting, to put my hand up over my head like this, and do this.

That was his solution and that I could go get a compression thing for my hand. So at this point, I'm wearing a compression sock on my hand. So then finally, at the end of 2021, I went to my family doctor, who has been an absolute blessing,

and showed him my fat hand. And he's like, well, that doesn't look normal. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. So he sent me to an internal specialist. So I went to my internal specialist who has also been a blessing. And he's looking at it. He's like, he couldn't figure it out. And he's like, maybe it's something with your neck.

I don't know. I'm just going to do a scan of your upper extremities. So I go for a scan of my upper extremities. So at this time, I go down to, at the end of 2021, I go down to BC for Christmas. And I'm wearing a compression sock on my hand at this point. I come back to Grand Perry, and it's a January 30th of 2022, and it's a Sunday afternoon, and my phone's ringing, and it's my family doctor. And I'm at work, and I answer the phone. I'm like, you know, and he goes, so I got the results of your scan, and we can see that you have a massive blood clot underneath your armpit. So I had a blood clot that was forming underneath my armpit, which if they would have continued with that ultrasound, they would have seen that, but they didn't.

So I had a massive blood clot right here, and I'm kind of like, okay, what do we got to do? I got a life to live. And he's like, oh, that's not all. So I'm just going to stop here because your hands started swelling in April. April. So we're talking, you had a blood clot in your armpit for eight months. that went on diagnosed. Yes.

Eight months. And then he continues to go, and that's not all. You also have a brain aneurysm sitting in the back of my head. This was on January 30th. And I almost nearly fell over. Immediately thinking of my children. Sorry. So I'm like, am I going to die?

I just want to unpack it. unpack this because if that aneurysm bursts, you die. Yes, sir. And you do end up having brain surgery, but you still have the problem. Yes. So can you describe that for us? So he sent me back to my internal specialist who has been very honest with me and who has signed my papers that he never met anybody like me before.

And I've never met anybody with a blog clot. I've never known anybody with an aneurysm. You hear about aneurysms after the fact, after somebody usually has passed away, and he's like, you're going to need surgery. So my aneurysm was 10 millimeters sitting in the back of my head, which I know now from talking to my vascular neurosurgeon, he had never operated on an aneurysm so large and saw aneurysm that haven't ruptured. So he sent me out, he sent the referral out to a neurosurgeon.

That neurosurgeon sent it back because where it sits is so, close to my nerve endings for my eyes, and he would refuse to touch it. So it got re-sent out to a vascular neurosurgeon. So immediately when I found out who that was going to be, I started calling. I was emailing pictures of me and my boys to please see me because I didn't want to die. So my first appointment with that vascular neurosurgeon was on April 1st of 2022, and he blew up my my head on a screen, I chose not to Google anything and not to do anything because I just wanted to get there and get the surgery. So I went there April 1st of 2022 and he explained to me what he was going to do. He was going to be putting coils in my head. And so I drove out to

to Eminton. And every time I have to go to Emmington, it's five hours. Like I'm driving back and forth and back and forth and back and forth by myself. And so on April 1st, he told me what he was going to do. I was like, okay, when can this happen? Drove home. Also, on my way home, I got the first call about my oldest boy's dad had passed away in a car accident. So I had to go home and tell my oldest son that his dad had passed away and turn around and go back to Eminton. And I got my first, got my surgery on April 19th of 2022. Put 13 coils in my head. I had. And I had turned around. And and a stent and basically him telling me that he's probably going to eventually need to put more coils in my head. So I got that surgery, came home, I was off work, then I went back to work, and I tried to go back to work after six months,

and my mental health had become so terrible at this point. I tried to go on a mental health leave from my work. I was denied my benefits because I was not taking prescription medication. I have it in the e-mouth. So I was denied my benefit. I just want to slow you down and stick with this brain. Because they put coils on it to try and prevent it from growing and bursting. But my understanding is it's continued to grow.

Yes. So at this time, so we are four years. So I can go, I suffer from pressure. in my head. I've got the deep-ane trombosis, which I've heard multiple times here. I suffer from pressure in my head, especially in the winter, migraines, headaches. But I just want to stick with this aneurysm for a sec. So they've told you it's actually too dangerous to operate. Yeah, so the residual in my brain aneurysm has increased twice. So I got a hold of my vascular neurosurgeon and we had a conversation, and I said, okay, you have said you're going to put more coils in my head.

Like, let's do that. So about six months ago, we had the conversation, and what he said to me was like, oh, no, no, no, no, Nicole, it's an abnormal brain aneurysm right now. It's too, it's unoperable. It's too dangerous to operate on my head, and we just have to monitor it. But that means you're ticking time bomb. It could burst any time. Yes, sir. And if it bursts, you die.

Yes, sir. And when you were describing this to me in an earlier interview, you said to me that every day you cry. Every day. Every day. What you see here is who people see. But what we don't talk about is the despair, the abandonment,

the financial insecurity. For me and my boys, as a single mother, you know, it's awful. I've had to sit down and talk with my son. I've just prayed that I could make it to my son's graduation. And he graduated in June, but he has also taken on the role of we had to sit down and have the conversation that if something happens to me, my 18-year-old, who's working in the oil field right now, that he will raise my son.

He will raise his brother. We've had to plan for the worst and hope for the best. So I just want to slow this down so people understand. Because both fathers are deceased, there's nobody to step in if you die to raise your two boys. And so you've had to speak with your 18-year-old son and get him to agree that he's going to raise his brother. it was currently 11.

Yeah. You've also had to set up your will. It's not that you have anything. I have nothing. But what's there, it just makes it clear to the boys so that they can raise each other. And you've also had to talk to your boys about you not being revived

if that brain aneurysm aneurysm bursts. Can you talk about that and what the conversation is like with your boys when you have this? Well, having to go through all of this, the only reason I have a roof over my head and my boys is my parents. Because my doctor has written me off work many, many, many times. You need to take it easy. You need to take it easy.

Well, I can't. I've been denied, denied disability, denied everything. Sorry, what was the question? I'm sorry. Oh, no. it's perfectly all right. Sorry. I was just pointing out that you basically have a document saying don't revive me if that brain aneurys and burst.

But you've actually had to talk because there's nobody else for them to. Your kids, your 18 year old is going to have to make that decision and give those directions. Yeah. So. I don't want to be a burden on my children. I feel like a burden on my family already. And so I do not want to be revived because. I don't want to be a burden on my children.

Right, but you've had to have the discussion with an 18-year-old, but if you get the call, you tell them don't revive them. My children have grown up with a sticky note. My son, my little one was six. We've had a sticky note on our fridge, and I was speaking with him before I came here and asking him how this has affected him. He's like, all I know is I go to that sticky note,

and if mom goes down, I call 911, and I tell them it's a brain aneurism. hurry up because if you take too long, she will be dead. And that is the reality of how my children have grown up in these last five years. David, I think we do have some slides on this. Oh, I thought I'd asked you about that. Well, that's okay. What's been the most difficult part about this?

My mental health. Yeah, my mental health. I've made a conscious decision. I'm not angry anymore. Because if I'm angry, it just adds stress. And that's going to take away the joy that I have with my children. I try and hang on to every moment, every day. My mental health, the financial insecurity, there's no stability,

the denials, the gaslighting, the way I've been spoken to. Yeah, and just not knowing where the next dollar is going to come from, you know, there's been times where I've only had money to feed my children. I don't eat. You know, it's awful. You know, I've been working since I'm 12. I'm a hard worker. You take somebody's health away and they can't go to work.

And I've always been the breadwinner. And I'm okay with that. I've always been okay with that. been able to take care of myself and be independent. And there's some days where my head is just, you know, the pressure, the pressure behind my eyes, you know, some days I feel okay, but there's no, you don't know how you're going to feel from day to day. And coming into winter, I don't know how I'm going to feel. I don't know. I'm always trying to think about that. I have nothing for my children. If something happens to me, there's no money. There's a minivan with

two years left to pay on it, you know? So, yeah, it's just, it's, it's, it's awful. It's total, it's just hell. I don't know if I can say that. That's what it feels like some days, you know, and people will say, because when they appear to meet me, I have to tell everybody around me if I go down, don't try and resuscitate me. But, you know, people say, oh, don't, don't, don't, don't, try to meet me.

not to think about it. Well, I can't. It's literally in the back of my head. I can feel the construction site in the back of my head. Cool. I want to thank you for coming today and I want to ask the room piece if they get any any questions.

And I'll just ask a question. Nicole, I you know, once again, I'm reminded that so many people that show up here have got so many things to juggle. Right? You've got to worry about health issues.

You've got to worry about family issues. And, and, you know, probably more importantly or most importantly, and the whole mix of that is financially, how do you keep everything together? So, you know, how do you, we talked about your younger boy, but as you talk to your kids in general, how do those conversations go in terms of what, how do they feel about what they've seen their mother go through? My boys are amazing. They've had to grown up so fast.

We don't talk about it all the time. We don't talk about it. I don't want to talk about it all the time. But the pressure, especially on my oldest, is immense. You know, my parents have, you know, they're hardworking. Alberta, born, you know, they've been incredible, but as a 50-year-old woman to have to

ask your parents, the only reason I'm here today is because of my mother, I'm wearing her clothes. You know, I don't want to die before my parents die. That's one of my biggest fears because they've already been through enough. My family's been through enough to witness this.

You know, most days I feel okay, but a lot of days I don't, but I don't talk about it. Nobody wants to hear about my burning head and, you know, but some days it's unbearable. But you go to work because that's what you have to do as a mother to put food on the table. Like I do what I can, even though the doctors are, you know, you need to take it easy. There's just no other options. My doctors, I did the thing. I went to the doctors.

They signed the papers, sent it off. And I got denied from Visp. It was a year ago. Oh, you can appeal, so it was appealed right away. That was a year ago. I don't know. My doctor made me fill out the paperwork for disability, denied. You know.

So I've just chosen to just keep on working, do what I can when I can, to try and help. And I would also guess because of what an elite athlete you were, you probably, you weathered some of this better than most. And that's not undermining what you have to deal with. Yeah, like, I love to swim. Swimming is my thing. I'm scared to swim, to be honest with you at the moment,

because swimming, you're alone in your thoughts. And I'm scared to swim sometimes because when something happens, then I'm really a goner. You know, even, like, my internal specialist and my vascular neurosurgeon, because at one point I was on two blood thinners, one for this and one for my head. And so they've had to come together. And the conclusion when they talked was like, she's on too many blood thinners because I was getting dizzy. And so my internal specialists, like we've decided that we're going to put you on the one blood thinner just for your head because of something that's going to go haywire.

We'd rather it go haywire with clotting, not with your brain. So I am on Alberta benefits and they won't even pay for my blood thinner because. because the conversation was my vascular neurosurgeon is not educated enough to prescribe this medication because it's supposed to come from a cardiologist. So I have to pay for that every month, which is $90. Like, it's just, it's just one thing after another. There is no help for people like me. For that, that's my boys. And so maybe one final question.

What type of cost do you have to incur for medicine or treatment? Medicine, I don't do anything else because I don't have money to do anything else. So you would do more if you could? Yes, there's lots of things I would like to do. I would like to, you know, with my trauma and stuff. There's lots of things that would probably help me in a day-to-day, but I don't. I can't. It's food and shelter.

That's all. Well, Nicole, thank you very much for being here today. Thank you for traveling great distances to share your stories. It's all important, so thank you. Thank you for doing this. Our next witness is Dr. Gary Davidson. Dr. Davidson, will you take the Bible in your right hand? Dr. Gary Davidson, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

So help you God. I do. I understand that you just flew in from Seoul, South Korea. That's true. Are you reliving the same day or? No, I lost. I think I lost it. No, I don't know.

I have no idea. I appreciate, though, that you're going to be very fatigued, but you were down there. You had meeting with the Minister of Health there and likely some other government officials. Right. I won't ask you about that. But most Canadians don't understand.

understand that actually there was a government inquiry into COVID-19 and COVID-19 issues. And that was in the province of Alberta. And I'm going to introduce you to the inquiry. And then my question after that is simply going to be, can you explain to me kind of like, how did that come about and what were the terms of reference and the purpose? And then we'll go a little further. So for the inquiry, Dr. Davidson was an emergency physician at the Red Deer Regional Hospital for over 16 years. Dr. Davidson was the clinical lead of emergency medicine for the Central Zone and chief of the emergency department at Red Deer Regional Hospital from 2016 to 2020.

He was also an associate clinical professor at the University of Alberta when his position was terminated due to his stance against some public health measures. I live in Alberta, I know that Dr. Davidson has an extremely good reputation and is called upon to assist the government at times with advice. Dr. Davidson, how did it come about it? Just because whenever there's an inquiry, it seems that the last name of the person heading the inquiry, so I think of it as the Davidson report. But that's not the name. It's like people think of this as the Allison inquiry. Can you share with us how this government task force came about and what its mandate was and what it did? The Premier wrote a letter to the health minister in November 22 and asked the health minister to set up a – It actually ended up being a data review and the difference between a data review and an inquiry, a formal inquiry, you can subpoena people that show up and they have to show up and testify in the other choices.

data review is we were allowed to ask anybody we could ask questions but people weren't made to answer our questions necessarily but I'll just stop you because this is the Minister of Health asking you guys to do this so surely all the departments I'm being facetious because I know they didn't would share information with you yeah you would have thought yeah so we did get a lot of information for sure but but It wasn't a formal judicial inquiry. So people had to volunteer or be willing to share with us.

Yeah. So, yeah, the Premier asked for the Ministry of Health. Then I was asked to chair the task force that then set up to committee. And we were given two years to write the report of which we handed in January 24th, 2020, I think. And what was the purpose of this task force? Like what was that passed? Yeah, her mandate was to review the Alberta's response to the COVID-19 pandemic was, you know, what our scope was. And what we, in the end, when we finish writing it all, the terms of reference that I was obviously involved in writing was, it's a data review.

So we want to know what data was used, what information was used to make the decisions Alberta made in everything they chose to do during the COVID-19 response. So we looked at what data they used, where they got it from, who gave it to them, who interpreted it, whether they were qualified to interpret it, did they do a jurisdictional review or a jurisdictional scan? Do they look at other places doing similar to see if it worked or didn't work? We looked at how it was implied or applied and then did it turn up the way they thought. So these were the questions we had. And then we had different areas we looked into. So we looked into data flow, you know, data and governance. So how did the information get shuffled around?

Where did it come from and who was in charge of that? We looked at the vaccines, the therapeutics, which included any treatment. We looked at masking specifically lockdowns, things like that. So we looked at nine different areas, but we asked those questions, what data did you use? And that's what the data review was. And I assume the purpose was to assist the government, if they find themselves in a similar situation, to basically be able to make changes so that decisions are made as the best decisions possible. Right.

Yeah, that's right. So we interviewed as best we could and researched all the data to see if what they did worked, could it be done better, was there something that wasn't done well, and what do we need to do to make sure it works better next time? Because that always can be done. And I'm just going to ask, I'm just going to read some of the people involved, and I'm really sticking, limiting myself, because with a project like this, and I also know that there'll be a ton of people that aren't listed in the report that contribute. heavily and I'm just limiting myself to medical doctors and researchers but

this is just the biography list in the report itself your listed dr. Gary Davidson m.B. Dr. Blaine Atchen MD Dr. David Vickers PhD Dr. Dr. David Vickers PhD Dr. Justin Chinn MD Dr. Dr. David Speaker PhD D. Byron Bridle, PhD, Dr. J. Badicharia, MD, PhD, and he's currently the director of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, a very high-ranking position within the U.S. government. Dr. Kevin Bardosch, Ph.D., just so these are just the medical doctors and researchers with PhDs that I listed, just limited it to that. But the point I'm trying to make Dr. Davidson is we're really talking about a high caliber, the world-class people and experts that have come together to assist you

in putting this together. And I imagine you were highly impressed with the team. Yeah. I mean, you know, that I said to everybody on the team, I wanted to surround myself with people way smarter than me because I'm the smartest person in the room, we're in a lot of trouble. And so I think we did that as you just read the list of people. You know, yeah, people had a lot of experience and a lot of training in the area. And I wanted to make sure that everybody could bring something that was, yeah, world level investigation. And that's what we had. And I just, David, can I just pull up the slide of just the title page?

So I just want, because Dr. Davidson, it's a story in itself that a provincial government has, you know, had a task force, evaluate what a province did and come up with some recommendations on how, you know, to do things better or what to look into, that the rest of the country isn't aware that there was a government task force. And so we're very pleased that you're here because any inquiry in the vaccine injury should include things that government's, have already done so that we're aware of them. And I will let everyone know that this is,

the full report is an exhibit at this inquiry. And so eventually we'll have a, you know, a webpage for you and of your testimony and this marked as an exhibit so that anyone can access it. But if you have the title, you can find this online. It is an official government report that is on the Alberta government website. It's not a secret. It's just for whatever reason, the mainstream media. didn't report on it so Canadians don't know.

Can you kind of share your thoughts about what do you think were the major lessons learned? And what I guess do you wish you could have done differently? Because I know you had some informational challenges. And maybe perhaps what the biggest surprise was. because we're really surprised when we're doing a project. Yeah, I'm not sure if we had any big surprises. The biggest thing we learned, I think probably was data flow. So where was the information coming from?

Because, you know, I was reading stuff in 2020, late 2019, that was all there, just like we heard earlier, that anybody could have found this information, the gentleman from CBC, the reporter, was sharing it, and it was like, yeah, we knew that. And it, yeah, why it got pushed down? That's above my pay grade. But the data flow, when we talk to the people involved in Alberta,

what they said was that the Health Canada told them how to set up their dashboard, then Health Canada would take harvest data from their dashboard, make a presentation, and give it back to them, told them you take this to your people, and this is the information you share with them. So it was just a circular thing that really wasn't being done in Alberta. And that was, I found that quite interesting.

We asked to interview 109 people everywhere from the top to the bottom. We want to know who was making the decisions, because everybody said somebody else was, that that's what we ran into. And so in the end, we interviewed a couple MLAs that had vaccine injuries, a couple people in the department that were asked to speak with us because they had a job in the government. And so, and they did, and they were very helpful. Then we interviewed, in the end, eight people total out of the 109 that we wanted to interview

that were decision makers. in the health system in Alberta. And we always started the same way. Share with me how it went. You know, how did you feel it went? What would, you know, what did you do well? What could you have done different? What was your thoughts?

And they shared stuff. And then we always, it was a data review. So I just said, so, you know, I had all of the things that they had done in their job, all the edicts that they had put out. And I said, so in this one here in particular, can you share with me? the primary literature you read to back up that decision. And these are all doctors, some with PhDs and other things like that. So well-educated and all in positions of leadership.

And they said, oh, I didn't. I said, what do you mean you didn't? Like you can see that there is a mandate that came down from up top. And it was given, you know, and so when you implemented it, did you read the information? And they says, we didn't have time. And some of them even said, we didn't know how to read that stuff. And it wasn't shocking, but it was just sad because people trusted that they were actually

reading the information. And when they told you to do it, they thought that they had read it because they were a doctor could understand it and were sharing it as the best information they had. But in the end, it was just they were given something. They just handed it to somebody else to do and just make this happen. And it wasn't shocking, it was just sad to actually hear it because I watched it happen. I knew it was happening like that. And that was the part that most people don't realize happened, that these people that were

telling, that were implementing these edicts didn't know why. Didn't, none of them read any of the primary research behind it. And then, you know, I wrote, I was a primary author on the Therapeutics chapter. chapter on the treatments. And so on Ivermectin, there was a thing that came out of Alberta Health Services, a scientific advisory group, and it said, you know, he shouldn't use Ivermect. And I said to the people making decisions on this one in particular, when you told everybody they couldn't use Ivermectin, did you read the primary research on that edict that was passed down? Of course they hadn't. I said, did you realize that the primary research that they use, there's 10 papers,

that they used to back up their decision, actually said Ivermectin work. But in the end, they said, well, we're not really that sure, so probably shouldn't do it. And that was the edict that was passed down. And I said, so you didn't read it. You didn't realize that actually the papers they used showed it actually could work. And definitely didn't hurt anybody. And none of them would read. None of them, nobody read it.

I'm just going to slow you down on this one, but then I want you to keep going because I think everyone is finding this as fascinating as I am. So in Alberta, I mean, definitely the policy became don't use Ivermectin. So really, it's a policy directive towards doctors. And tell me if I'm exaggerating, but I mean, Alberta doctors understood that they could be facing misconduct if they were to prescribe ibermectin for anything, but the two listed parasites that Health Canada had approved them. only during after COVID through and after COVID right right like today they might today they might be fine but that's what I mean

so this was a directive that basically prevented Alberta doctors from you it took a treatment tool away from them and I assume you'll agree with me that there was some pretty cogent evidence that Ivermectin should be in a physician's toolbox for trying to treat COVID And I'm actually, you probably feel more strongly than how I phrased it.

Yeah, it's very true. So that's one of the things I got in trouble. That's one of the reasons I lost my professorship and a few other things over was I prescribed a lot of ivermectin. I prescribed it. I wrote it as a prescription before we weren't allowed to September 22nd, 2021. And before that, I wrote, well, I know how many I wrote. I wrote a lot of prescription, more than anybody else in Western Canada, put it that way. So I ran six pharmacies out of Ipermectin.

So I wrote a lot of it. And I treated people for COVID, anybody that came, nobody under 18, just, you know, I didn't need to deal with that. Patients that were very senior and elderly and very unwell. And out of all those patients, I didn't lose a patient. I didn't have one of them die on. But we treated them with a protocol that was very proven, had good scientific research behind it using, I prescribed Arbemex.

I wasn't telling people to go to the farm store and buy it there. I'd prescribe it to them legally. And then, yeah, it was taken away. And I was just thinking, show me the research that proves that it's dangerous because I'd never seen anything like that. So it was, yeah, some of it was just hard to get in my head around. And I got threatened with my job about prescribing. I want to slow this down again.

I mean, I think there was a province in the country of India that gave out like hundreds of millions of doses of Ivermectin. And now in like a post analysis, don't tell me where you disagree. I mean, Ivermectin, if we were facing COVID-19 again, should be one of the frontline tools for physicians to use to treat. COVID if we were facing it brand new. I would agree with that. That's the research I found and like I said, I used it hundreds of time. Well, you were actually managing an emergency department

and successfully treating COVID-19 patients. Not in the emergency department, but as okay, as a position. Yeah. So, okay, so carry on, I just, it was important, I think, for us to point out that, so here's a decision to limit a treatment that actually you personally was finding tremendously effective in managing patients on COVID. The decision likely caused lives in the province of Alberta.

Would that be fair to say? That would be your opinion. That would be my thought for sure. Okay. So this is important. So a decision that likely caused deaths and the people that are implementing the decision actually didn't read the research that the decision was based on. That's what we found.

Yes. And the research that it was based on, actually, you read it objectively, would, oh, my gosh, we should be pushing iburemectin. Yeah. In the report on the therapeutics chapter, we show, like, there's hundreds and hundreds of papers on it that show that. And if you do a bring them all together in a review, it's very positive for it. And it has to be done a certain way. There is protocols you need to follow. It's just not, there's some people using it kind of willy.

the only end there was then too and that's not quite the way to do things now this inquiry is focusing on vaccine entry and you this report has a chapter on COVID-19 vaccines and and I told you I was going to just pull up the the recommendations section David can you pull up the slide so I just pulled this this slide is actually straight out of your report except where it says on the top conclusions from Chapter 8 of a COVID-19 pandemic response file and report. We put that in so that we could identify where this came from. But the head including conclusions and recommendations and these conclusions and recommendations, these are directly out of the Davidson report.

So the first one is, is immediately halt the use of all COVID-19 vaccines without full disclosure to patients regarding both the safety and efficacy issue. by the physicians. So you're not really saying people can't use them, but there's got to be full disclosure. Can you share with us why this task force came to this as a conclusion and recommendation? Because it was pretty obvious, and I think you've seen it in many other testimonies here,

that people weren't told that there could be bad side effects. There could be really poor outcomes possible. And I think a person has to be. to always remember though that still the vast majority of people that took them have not had any side effects and we have to remember that it's not everybody right but it's still a number that's present but nobody was told that we were told they're completely safe and healthy for everybody to take all the way down to six months of age that had almost zero risk from COVID you know probably the one that really sticks with me is the the pregnant ladies

So if you know in the Pfizer research, it was done in 2020, before the vaccine was out, there was 44,000 people in the study, 22,000 each art, and one was placebo, one was getting the treatment. They didn't vaccinate anybody who was pregnant on purpose, because they just didn't. But 272 girls became pregnant during the follow-up period. Very interesting. They lost 238 of the charts to follow up. They don't know what happened to them, which is strange because they didn't lose 278 of any other. or 230 of the other charts. So why they lost all those, we don't know.

Anyway, it left about 34 charts that they didn't lose. And out of that, there was only one normal child born. The rest of them had bad outcomes. And so I'm just, but was anybody told that? So it's interesting, because I had the Pfizer research, before we had any vaccines in anybody, I had their paper, and I had it at work. And I got my pharmacist to print it off,

and I highlighted that. And I showed my colleagues and I got in trouble for creating vaccine hesitancy. We didn't even have vaccine yet. And I'm thinking, what do you mean? Like, this is just what we should share with people. So I got in a lot of trouble for that and got, that was one of the reasons they took my professorship away because I didn't think I was safe to have a resident because I was teaching them this stuff. I wasn't teaching them anything.

I was showing them Pfizer's own paper. Like, and just saying, you should just read this and know this. And it was just bizarre. But that was creating vaccine hesitancy. I think, I hope so. You know, like, that's, so nobody had informed consent. And so we were giving it to these girls who were pregnant. And I'm just like, you've got to be kidding me.

There are so many things we don't give girls who are pregnant that are way safer than this. And I can name a hundred of them without even thinking that we just like, well, we don't give that when you're pregnant. You can have that when you're not. but you shouldn't take it when you're pregnant. I just know that. But this, we had no evidence whatsoever other than that, which just looked bad, but it was very preliminary.

I'm just saying, hang on, we shouldn't do this until we know more. And it's like, oh, no, no, we're all good to go. And it was stunning. So I just said, before you give anybody this vaccine, you have to make sure they understand the risks and benefits for themselves. They get to choose, just like I hope everything else in our society. because if you don't have full disclosure, how can you make a proper decision? And it just was very bizarre to me.

So there's lots of others if you go through all of the research. There's tons of it that people weren't being told. And we heard it here, you know, the research was easy to find, but the media was still telling you it was completely safe. You know, you could say it was fairly safe. You could say a lot of things, but you can't say that. So I want to move to the next one. So the next one I found very interesting. So the next conclusion and recommendation was end use of the COVID-19 vaccines for healthy children and teenagers,

as other jurisdictions have done, see Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the UK. Can you comment on that one? Yeah, there was a 23 million person study done in these countries that are listed here. because they said there was something not quite right. It seems like the side effects aren't worth it. We have to do this. So they studied it and they realized that if you're under 50, that's what they said. If you're under 50, the risk of the vaccine wasn't worth the risk of getting COVID.

You had a higher risk from the vaccine than you did it from COVID itself. So they didn't recommend it. And then for healthy teens and children, they just said you can't get it. Unless you get a letter from your doctor saying that, saying that you specifically need it. And so put the onus back on the doctor to explain to the parents whether this child needed it or not. And that's what we thought should be on.

So I just want to unpack that. So, I mean, basically these other jurisdictions that studied a very large sample site, I think you said 23 million, and came to the conclusion that actually for people under 50, the vaccine was causing more harm than benefit. Now, adults are able to make their own informed decisions, but there's a responsibility to protect children and teenagers.

So these jurisdictions, these countries, has actually banned COVID-19 vaccines for anyone, you know, basically likely 18 and under. And those countries are Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the UK. I mean, we're not talking about third world countries without a health ministry. These are serious European Union countries. Yeah, it was a big study that they did. Of course, there's, you know, you can throw it into Grok and now. they'll give you all sorts of reasons why it wasn't done right.

But we just have to read to it all. But since this report, I expect that your opinion is that you would stick by this because there's further information that the risks outweigh the benefits. Yeah, it's become more clear since then for sure. Right. Yeah. Yeah, no, I would still say that's what I would recommend. Those are my questions.

The MPs likely have something. Thank you very much, Dr. Davidson, for being here. I was, I think most of society has people pedestals and doctors are usually on that pedestal. But I'm through this whole five, six years of four and three years, I think people have changed their mind alone. And no offense to present Trump up to me. We, we move forward to get some sort of a, I guess, confidence back in the system? I mean, is it

somebody had mentioned they didn't have time to read, right? But if they're providing care to people, you think that they wanted to have the best care possible with this people. How do you reconcile that? I'm not sure if I know the answer to that, how to restore the

trust back in the profession, to be honest with you after this, because when people have been hurt and injured and we or, you know, in my, some of my colleagues haven't seemed to done what they did in, you know, good faith, it seems. And of all people, we should have known. We should have been able to read. You know, and like I say, I printed off Pfizer's own research in my office.

And I'm the department head, and I'm saying, guys, you need to read this. And they just like, I'm not reading that. And I don't even know why they did that because they should, it was pretty easy to read. It's pretty easy to see that there were more people died in the vaccinated arm than the unvaccinated arm. There's so many things in there. It was so obvious. This wasn't a good vaccine. But they wouldn't read it because I'll tell you why.

Because I got in trouble every time I did something. And doctors don't have really a lot of transferable skills. Walmart wasn't hiring and they don't pay well. And if I lost my job, I had two kids in the school and the states in college that I would have had to bring them home. I have a farm, you know, as a professional, you have quite a large overhead. There was no other way to pay those things. And everybody could see how I was getting treated. And they said, we're not going there.

I had lots of them come up to me and said, I really appreciate what you're doing, but I just can't do it. And that's unfortunate. So in reality, the very system that it's something. supposed to care for people was coerced into and fear mongered into promoting something that they themselves had no confidence or care to check say that's it's it's unfortunate that we have coercion five the people who received the vaccine and then how many people how many the doctors and medical profession for coerced from above government.

Yeah. To do this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just agree with you. It's really sad. Well, do you have a question?

Go ahead. Alex. Just a quick one. Your opinion, why do you think Canada, especially recommendation number two that you made within the report about, you know, basically limiting the vaccine? vaccines going forward for younger children that are healthy.

Considering most of those countries listed are countries that we actually tend to be very much aligned with from a professional sort of democratic process and even health services. Why hasn't Canada sort of said, you know what, this makes sense going forward, at least again, I'm not litigating on the past, but just sort of going forward, why hasn't the public health agency at Canada sort of made the same recommendation. I have ideas but I don't really know. Yeah, some of it's just I don't understand. I really don't. I don't understand why we did it in the first place

and why we haven't been able to change since. I really don't understand. It's just sometimes hard to back up. And I think people are afraid to admit they're wrong for fear of what it may cost them. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. You know, and then, yeah, I think most people, most physicians are good people and really do want to look after people. But they are really put in a really, really impossible position. And yeah, so I think it's the same all the way around. I think it's hard to back up and admit you're wrong because then also the liability comes with that.

And then where does it end? There's a lot of people that didn't do well. Thank you very much. And as usual, we're out of time. And I want to ask questions, but I can't. But Dr. Gavis, I want to thank you very much for being here and for taking the time. It's interesting. As much as I followed a lot of the stuff over the years, I was unaware that Albert did a report.

So that just tells you, you know, if you're sort of paying attention, I say sort of, paying attention, you don't know. What are the chances the public will ever be paying attention? Yeah. I think I was going to ask you which ones were implemented in Alberta, but I'm not going to do that. Which one of the recommendations? I think I get the answer to that as well. No, our premier has done quite a bit actually in Alberta. So I really appreciate it.

That's actually taken. Well, thank you for being here. I think this has been enlightening. I think certainly for most people that may not understand that. there was actually a province that commissioned some type of report. And you've explained very clearly what that report looked like versus, you know, an inquiry officially versus that. All great and very helpful.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks. And Dr. Davidson, again, the travel that you did to get here, we just thank you. I know it's tough. And we so appreciate you coming. And it's just so important that the only government report done needed to be part of this record. So I personally thank you for coming.

Thank you. You're welcome. David, before we go to the next witness's slides, can we do the Foster videos? We just, I just went, I'm going to talk while you pull them up. So we had Rodney Palmer today to go through some slides in this presentation. and he showed a slide of Carol Pierce and that she had been texting her daughter

and she died during the 15-minute waiting period. But we have some evidence from an earlier proceeding where her daughter testified under oath. And as it turns out that what happens is, so Carol Pierce goes and visits her daughter that morning. Well, the neighbors got a security cam that's motion detect. So there's a video of Carol Pierce walking into her daughter's house. She walks in with her daughter.

And then there's a video of her leaving to go get vaccinated. So she's literally within half an hour of her death. We've got a video of her walking. And it's instructive to watch this. And then we also have a better one of the texts that happens. So David, so we're going to play this. This is the motion video camera, Carol Pierce the morning she died, walking with her daughter into her daughter's house.

Now, it's a quick video, so we've had it so it repeats three times, and just watch, because a picture's worth a thousand, you know, words, and you can actually see for yourself. Does she look healthy? Does she look? Is this somebody you expect is going to actually drop dead while she's standing? And apparently she was dead before she hit the floor. And she's in the red. That Carol Pierce is wearing a red jacket.

And it's just going to repeat twice. So now she decides to leave, and we're going to play the video of her leaving to get into her car to go and get vaccinated. And again, this one plays three times just so you have a real good opportunity to see her walk. So Carol gets into her vehicle, and she drives to Shoppers Drug Mart in Saskatoon. There's a long lineup of people, and she gets her vaccine, and she's back up one, David. to the text. So she's now gotten her vaccine and she's texting her daughter, Stephanie.

And this would be where it says yesterday, 1220, at below that 1221 p.m. Carol Pierce texts, waiting the 15 minutes emoji, L.O.L.L. And her daughter, Stephanie Foster, texts back. Good job. Carol Pierce in the last text of her life, texts Stephanie Fosterback, thanks.

And Carol Pierce is just standing, waiting around with other people who have been vaccinated in the 15-minute period, and she just suddenly dies. The report at the other inquiry was that she likely was dead before she hit the floor is what they were told. And we had Ken Drystale here talking about national citizens archive. You can see that testimony with Stephanie Foster. Can we go to the next slide?

So a media outlet, a 650 CKOM, put out a full story. We'll attach the full story as an exhibit. But in that story, because it was becoming news, wait a second, this lady dropped dead. And so where we put in on the left there, it's a quote from the story, this month, Several posts on social media indicated a woman died minutes after receiving a booster shot at the pharmacy in Saskatoon. In an emailed statement, the Ministry of Health confirmed public health was informed of this death, but it was not caused by the vaccine. The coroner service has investigated this instance and determined that the person died from natural causes, the ministry said. So when you go and get your vaccine, we can't argue with the coroner service. So Carol Pierce just coincidentally, while waiting seven minutes after her second shot,

happened to die of natural causes. But here's where it gets interesting. It was reported that nobody else left the line. So there's a long lineup of people waiting to get their vaccines. They see this lady collapse. I mean, emergency services are called. Everyone knows she's dead, and everyone stays in the line to get their vaccine. That's where it thought interesting.

So I'd like to recall as a witness, Deanna McLeod, who we just ran out of time yesterday, but there was more to say. And so, Deanna, would you please take the Bible in your right hand? Dan McLeod, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so happy God. I'll just ask you, we've got about 13 minutes to use that time wisely and continue your presentation. Oh, Klydoscope strategic medical research firm 20 years of doing evidence-based evaluations and trying to counter pharmaceutical bias and preparing guidelines for cancer. and I'm pressing my slide thing and it is not working.

Hey, okay. So I'm just going to show you a few more slides. We got through part of them yesterday. The slide on the left is a slide for Bell's palsy, so a number of the people who have reported injuries, neurological injuries following the MRI vaccine. So you can see on the left-hand slide, that is O-HIP data,

which represents the billing data for 16 million people in Ontario, Canada. This is basically health utility data or access to care data. So you can see that up until the COVID-19 MRNA product rollout, you had a steady state. Whenever we went into lockdowns, it drops down, there's a rebound, those are the white dots. And then after that, going to the right, you can see. that there's an elevation in the number of people on a monthly basing basis seeking care for Bell's Palsy. So if you were to look at the steady line in the middle, that would be

what would be expected during that time. And those little blue dots are all of the increases in what would be expected at that time. And these are monthly rates. So let's just look at that. So we would say maybe seven or eight people would be expected to be looking for care for for Bell's Palsy in a given time, and then we have a jump up to 9, 10 at any given point. And the gray band is what would be due to chance, and what's above the band would be something that would unlikely be due to chance. Right. And when you see numbers like seven, that's per 100,000 of the pocket.

Yes, thank you. Seven per 100,000 per month. So if you add that to a year, that would be many more. On the right-hand side, you have health-seeking behavior accessing health hospital care. So they don't do it on a per-patient basis for that. So the hospital care would be, you know, there's an event at the hospital, and it's either going up or down. So you can see for Bell's palsy in the hospital, there's a trend towards increased need.

But then with 2020 and 2021, you see an increase, especially in 2021. and that represents a 4% increase. So one is community care, the other one is hospital care. So you have to kind of look at both of those if you want to understand the trends. So pulmonary embolisms, there's been lots of talks about clotting over the inquiry. And so you can see here on the left-hand side,

when you're looking at community care, you've got a trend going up, and the lines don't necessarily align very well, except for maybe whenever the vaccine was rolled out initially. But if you look at the hospital care, you can actually see that there's a 13% increase in pulmonary embolism. So those are fatal clots or could be potentially fatal clots going to the lungs. So pulmonary embolism, that's an increase of 13%.

It's well above the boundary of something that would be due to chance. So if you were somebody who would be wanting to know what the actual rate of side effects were for an MRNA product, there's a lot of talk about Kephas, which is the passive surveillance system in Canada, But this is much more reliable data because you can't skew this. This is people actually looking for care for these actual conditions. And I have to stop because we get witness after witness saying they couldn't get care. So this is actual data for witnesses who got care. Yeah.

When I'm saying care that's like health-seeking behavior, I have a problem, the doctor comes in, sees them, and then they have to bill for that interaction. And so what they bill is it's pulmonary embolism, where I'm billing for Bell's palsy. So this is a qualified medical professional making a diagnosis and assigning a diagnostic code. So it's unlikely. I mean, maybe some people won't bill or maybe they bill incorrectly, but those billing inconsistencies would be consistent over time. It's not like they would change during COVID.

What I was getting, as we have witnesses being sent away from ER without any diagnostic at all. And it keeps repeating, but then later on they're diagnosed. with these conditions. So it's just an interesting twist. So this is hospital care data. I'm going to keep going. This is hospital care data for myocrititis. There's various codes for myocarditis

or hospital codes for myocarditis. You can see on the right hand side, this is annual numbers now. It's fairly consistent, but then you have the MRNA product rollout. You see this big jump. It's above the boundaries for chance. On the right hand side is another.

other code for myocarditis. It's consistent again, MRNA rollout, big jump in 2021 and again in 2022. These represent increases of 87% and 76%. And so a lot of the talking points that we've heard have been that myrocarditis is rare and transient. I would probably argue that the data for 16 million people in Ontario would say something other than that. I just like to go through, this is just a timeline of the data that came out at various time points for myocrititis. So this is one of the side effects that was attributed to the vaccine. So on the far left-hand side, you can see that that's kind of time zero. And that's whenever the MRA product was rolled out.

And it was rolled out based on level one evidence, which is a randomized controlled trial, but only two months of level one evidence. It was a fairly large study, but it's very difficult to understand within two months if something could be harmful to the heart or not, a little bit longer. So each of those bans afterwards are six-month intervals. So a little further along, you get the six-month follow-up data for the randomized control trial specifically for Pfizer. And in that trial, which came out in September 2021, you have this, if you actually looked

and analyzed the deaths, you have nine cardiovascular deaths in the MRI product arm and five cardiovascular deaths in the placebo arm. So what that tells you, and this was a population of healthy individuals, so there was a signal as early as six months after rollout, but I'm just going to pause right now because I'd just like to explain something about the regulatory framework. So on a normal regulatory framework in standard practice, a pharmaceutical company would have to prove that a product was safe

before it accessed the market. So you prove safety, and you do that through rigorous testing. The testing would include clinical examinations. It would include, you know, lab work. You'd look for biomarkers. You'd do extensive testing. It would take years to complete that trial. And then at the end of the trial, you would look at the results

and you would be able to say, is it safe or is it not? And does it meet the standards for regulatory approval? However, during the pandemic, because this was a public health crisis, a new emergency framework was put in place, and they were able to conduct approvals based on what they call rolling reviews. And a rolling review basically means that you get to take sneak peeks at the trial,

and if there's an early sign of benefit, then you actually get to approve the product based on that early data. So these products were approved based on two months of data. And if you would actually consider how carefully they were looking at them, they were basically the patients had a phone app, and they would basically say,

did you get this, did you get that, did you not get that, little clinical examization, no lab marker, no lab reviews. It's not a standard clinical trial. All of that to say is that the six months, we see that there's some trouble. They're relying on post-marketing on pharmacovigilance data. There was a report three months later from Pfizer, and it basically highlighted that there were serious cardiovascular deaths worldwide, 1,403 cases, and 135 deaths after the rollout. That's within three months. So we approve it at two months. At three months, there's this report from Pfizer.

They had to hire new staff because there were so many side effect reports from the vaccine rollout. The six-month data comes out. Still, there's not a lot. the Israeli study, which is a matched cohort study, which is fairly reliable in terms of, you know, maybe moving the needle in terms of people acknowledging a side effect. And then Ontario public health comes out and says, oh, myocarditis, there's an alert. So we're concerned with the Israeli study because there was more people getting myocarditis with the Moderna than the Pfizer.

It's not like, don't take it, or let's start risk profiling people, which is what you should be doing. it was take the Pfizer and not the Moderna and you still can't get an exemption for your vaccine. Sorry, don't go to school, don't go to your job or whatever it was. So this is abnormal clinical practice. I've never seen this before. We don't do this in cancer. A little bit further along, Dr. Davidson mentioned the Nordic matched cohort study. It was a very reliable study, fairly well structured, 23 million people.

They only looked for 28 days after. So this is a very short time frame right after the MRNA product rollout. And they basically said there's a real risk in young people. So I just want to say by the time they were able to get a properly designed study, it was two and a half years later. So what this means is that the product was put on the market. People were harmed for two and a half years because we were negligent in doing our safety testing prior to rollout. and then we acknowledge the harm. So this whole idea of rushing a product to market

for the good of the people is ridiculous because what we are actually doing when we do rush a product is we monitor, not safety, but harm. And the people who witness today are the people who've been harmed by this negligent regulatory practice, which needs to stop.

So I'm just going to zip to another set of slides, and these are ones that we've presented, in Washington at the President's Council panel in June 2021. And so on the right-hand side, on the left-hand side, sorry, you have, on the upper panel, you have breast cancer, and that's greater than 50 years old, and then breast cancer, less than 50 years old. And again, we have a trend for an increase in breast cancer. You've got your gray confidence intervals.

And then the yellow band is the rollout of the MMRA product in 2021. And almost immediately following the rollout, you see that those blue dots start to increase above the gray band. And what that means is that there's more health-seeking behavior for breast cancer now from women older than 50, which is when you expect it. But tragically, on the right-hand panel, you have incredibly elevated health-seeking behavior for breast cancer and younger women, less than 50 years old, well beyond the confidence intervals. So if you look at uterine cancer, that's the panel below that. You have greater than 50, again, off the charts out of the regular confidence intervals. On the right-hand side, less than 50 again, right off the charts. So I just want to stress that in our exuberance to get a product available for COVID,

which was an incredible threat, we classified this MRNA product as about. vaccine, and we did the safety testing for a vaccine, even though the actual mode of action was gene therapy. So a gene therapy, which is an MRA product, would be what this would be technically classified for in terms of how it works in your body. But the regulatory classification was as a vaccine because it was intended to stimulate immunity or prevent infection. So they actually did this switcheroo and called it a vaccine because of the intention to treat. And that's never been done. And the safety testing, therefore, was very much lower because they considered it a vaccine rather than gene therapy.

I know I've got to go fast. Well, you've got about a minute. So this is cancer registry data. So when you look at health care seeking behavior, you think, okay, what is this? Is this, you know, new cancers? Is it people whose cancer progressed? because we did lockdowns and shut down cancer care. You know, what are we actually looking at?

And this is SEAR data. Sear data is cancer registry data. It's the most reliable population level data that you can look to. This is SEAR data in women less than 50 years. And this is women presenting with metastatic cancer. So breast cancer, cervical cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer. And the yellow band is the COVID period. It's by year.

And what you can see over the COVID period, not always beginning in 2021, but in around there, you see this uptick. So there's always a trend upwards, but you see an extra increase in women with metastatic breast cancer, ovarian cancer, cervical cancer at presentation, meaning that for some reason this cancer is growing very fast. This is data that represents half of the U.S. population. It's cancer registry data, which means. that it's been validated and confirmed as such.

So I just want to, please give me a little bit of time, I want to explain how this happened because it's, it needs to stop. So the way that this happens is who recommends, who recommends surveillance? As an international health regulation member, we have signed on to collaborate with the World Health Organization,

and doing surveillance. They recommend a PCR test. The PCR test is unreliable, and I'm going to show you why it's unreliable right now. So at the very beginning in wave one, you have hospital capacity and ICU capacity, which left-hand side is peak inpatient ICU capacity. They predicted, or they do their projections

or their modeling based on information from China. So the World Health Organization conveys that there's a crisis in China, The hospitals basically say we're going to be in trouble. We have to actually get some hospital capacity here. The red is what they projected based on the numbers from China. The blue is what they actually used. So we weren't in a health crisis because if we were in a health crisis, all that. And if that data from China were correct, that would be blue all the way up.

But it's not. This is empty hospitals and empty health care units. This is an affidavit from Deborah Gordon. who is the vice president of Alberta Health Services. And the reason I wondered, why on earth could they get it that wrong? And you know why they got it that wrong is because they needed those accentuated numbers to trigger public health policy right across the province. And once public health policy was triggered,

then the chief medical officer of health became the quarterback for the pandemic response. And this is the order. number 16, 2020, which basically the public chief medical officer of health basically sent to the regulators to tell all of the doctors in Alberta to come in line. And this basically says, I'm sending this to you that you have to come in line with me and my public or the COVID-19 policy. And I have the authority to take whatever other steps that are, in my opinion, necessary in order to lessen the impact of health emergency. So once that impact, once those public health orders or acts were triggered, the Quarantine Act at the federal level, and each of the public health emergency acts at each of

the different provinces, they're named different things. This one person was able to direct every single health care worker in all of the provinces, and they were able to do whatever the heck they wanted. And, Deanna, I have to, I'm sorry. And I'm done. And I'm done. Okay, good, good. So we stretched that out. We're very thankful that you came back. Okay, we're now going to suspend for lunch, and as we have done, we'll be reading out the names of the over 1,400 people that applied to be here. We're unable to do it. And so if you decide to stay by all means do, but if you're going to leave, if we can do that quietly as we do that, and then we will resume, after lunch at 115. Christopher Leclair.

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Riley Sower, Andrea Kiever, Maureen Woodridge, Daniel Nagasi, Linda Lindy, Lee Vilemi, Ron Nushet, Patterson McLean, Kelvin Casper, Shania Kennedy, Carolyn Roy, Marie LaRocque, Daniel Anna Ciorna, Sandra, Sandra, Sandra, Sandra, Lacerty, Julie Bloden, Natasha Raymond Blue, Sonia Landry, Matthew Oberton, Patricia Trambley, Renee Bosse, Gilbert Trambley, Cindy Boven, Isabelle Zener, Susan St. Laurent, Mario Lesbarris, and finally Madeline Corbaudie. The silence is over. So thank you very much for being here today. Over the past several years, Canadians experienced the pandemic in very different ways. Many families lost loved ones to COVID-19.

We had many frontline healthcare workers and our first responders carried an enormous burden. And I want to thank all our first responders and our frontline healthcare workers for all the work that you do every single day. But there was also Canadians who suffered serious. adverse events following vaccinations who feel their stories have not been adequately heard. Every Canadian deserves to be treated with dignity, respect, and compassion. When people come forward with concerns about their health, our first response should never be dismissal, it should be listening. The individual sharing their experiences through projects such as the Allison Inquiry are not statistics.

There are mothers, our fathers, our sons, our daughters, our friends, and our neighbors. Their experiences deserve to be documented, examined and understood. Good public policy depends upon public trust. Trust is strengthened when governments and institutions are willing to ask difficult questions from the evidence wherever it leads and acknowledge when people have been harmed. My position is simple. Compassion for those who suffered from COVID-19 and compassion for those who were injured following the vaccination and a commitment to transparency, accountability and giving people a chance to share their stories,

and to be heard. Canadians should never be afraid to tell their stories, and government should never be afraid to listen. Today, I want to highlight two reasons why these stories matter, and why Canada needs a more thorough examination of his pandemic response. First, we can't ignore the experience of Canadians who were injured following the vaccination. The government recognizes this, even the liberals recognize this, and federal reporting through the public health, has said that there's been over 58,000 adverse events reported in Canada. including more than 11,000 classified as serious. The federal vaccine injury support program had received more than 3,500 claims.

More than 3,000 of those claims were deemed admissible for review, and so the government acknowledged that people have been injured, and yet only over 250 people have been compensated. Those numbers alone tell the story on just how slow and unfair the process has been. Many individuals tell us they have struggled to be heard, struggled to navigate the system and struggle to obtain answers. There are legitimate questions

about whether the support program is delivering the assistance efficiently. According to the report by the Globe and Mail last year, more than 54 million was provided to OX Arrow, the company administering the Vaccine Injury Support Program, with more than 36 million being spent

on administration. That's two-thirds spent on administration, while only a fraction of the claims have resulted in compensation. Whether one's support, courts or opposes government pandemic policies, I believe Canadians agree on one principle. If people have been harmed,

they deserve compensation, support, transparency, and a timely assistance. Second, Canada's increasingly become an outlier among Democratic nations when it comes to reviewing what happened during the pandemic. More than 30 Democratic countries have launched significant COVID inquiries, including public commissions, parliamentary investigations,

and independent national reviews. These include countries such as United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Norway, Italy, France, and the United States, many G7 countries, and many Commonwealth countries have recognized an event of this magnitude deserves careful examination. These reviews have looked at government decision-making, lockdowns, mandates, policies, vaccine policies, economic impacts, public health preparedness, and civil liberties concerns. They have not undertaken these inquiries because they all had the answers. They undertook them because their citizens deserve answers.

Yet here in Canada, one of the most significant events in modern national history has never been examined through a comprehensive national public inquire with the level of transparency and independence of many Canadians believe is necessary. That said, we're not proposing to national inquiry today. What we are proposing is something more immediate and accessible, an opportunity for Canadians to share their experiences, tell their stories, and ensure that their voices are heard. As I've traveled across the country, and as my colleagues have traveled across the country, we have heard countless stories from Canadians. People have come to my office, people have written letters, they've sent emails, some lost loved ones to COVID-19, some people lost businesses, some struggle with isolation and mental health challenges. Others experience severe adverse reactions following the vaccination. What they all have in common is a desire to be heard. That is why this conversation matters.

This is not about relegating every decision, or relitigating, sorry, every decision that was made during an unprecedented crisis. This is not about assigning blame. It's about learning. It's about listening. It's about ensuring that when the next public health emergency arrives, Canada is better prepared because we have the courage to examine what happened honestly and openly. Canadians deserve transparency.

Canadians deserve accountability. And above all, Canadians deserve to know that their experiences matter. The stories that we will hear in September are reminder that behind every statistic is an actual human being. Their voices deserve to be heard. Many have suffered in silence, and their country should be willing to listen. My call to action is if you've been injured or someone you know has been injured, we'd love to hear your stories. I'd ask you to go to Allisonquiry.com and fill out the forms. and then we hopefully we can get a chance to hear your stories.

My name is Sean Buckley and I'm a lawyer that is volunteering with the COVID Testimony Association, which is a not-for-profit that was set up to help manage this inquiry. This inquiry is meant to be a non-partisan inquiry. If it was set up by the Conservative Party or the Liberal Party or the NDP or the bloc, it would be difficult for other ends. MPs to participate. So this is rather unique is the COVID Testimony Association is citizen run. It's a volunteer organization, so I will be participating, Theresa here who will be speaking next,

are participating as volunteers to partner with MPs so that MPs from all stripes of all parties feel free to come and listen to Canadians, because that's all that's happening here. And the motivation is quite something. I was involved in another citizen inquiry, the National Citizen Inquiry, which is in 2003, listened to vaccine-injured persons. And I remember there was a volunteer named Christine,

and she was getting quite involved, and I asked her, I said, Christine, why are you helping? Why are you volunteering? and her body language, she just froze. She got this pain looked in her face and she just froze. And I knew that she was volunteering because somebody close to her had been injured by a COVID-19 vaccine. I was now just waiting to hear who it was.

And she explained that her husband died after taking the shot. Her best friend died after taking the shot. And a teenage son of another very good friend died after taking the shot. we've all had this type of experience. For me, early on, once we started this down this road, it was in my neighborhood myocarditis, so the teenager that did my yard work couldn't do my yard work anymore because of myocarditis, a neighbor a couple doors down in early 30s,

myocarditis, another neighbor down the block, severely bedridden and sick for a long period of time. and now it just seems I'm surrounded by people that are getting cancer. In fact, one of the persons that I'm hoping will help in a very significant way with this inquiry. I'm hoping that we'll be far enough down the cancer journey to be able to participate. And everyone I speak to, we all have this experience, are aware of people. And so this is something that we need to address. Now, what's interesting is, is even in arriving here today to do this press conference,

I've learned that this is a topic that almost seems to be forbidden. You know, MP Dean Allison last year indicated, you know, I'd like to actually just listen to Canadians sharing their stories in a more formal way. Every MP is having this experience in an informal way where Canadians are coming to them and wanting to talk about vaccine injury. And we spoke to several MPs, and it's interesting, they'd ask questions like,

is it okay, am I going to get into trouble? How is Parliament going to react? How is our party is going to react? That there seems to be a fear in actually having people come and formally share their stories before a panel of MPs and senators are also invited. to participate. And it's kind of got me thinking we'd gone through this experience where decisions

were made to try and get as many people vaccinated as possible. And this inquiry is not here to question any of that at all. But there was pressure, and we experienced that pressure, but that pressure is no longer here. We should be free to speak now. And I wonder if what's happened is we've internalized that pressure that was before and now we need some something to give us permission to speak again so it's certainly I've learned that our lawmakers need permission to speak again and I anticipate that the MPs and senators that participate in this inquiry which is

just to listen to ordinary Canadians sharing their journey that it's going to be something that will be freeing for all of us. Again, this is nonpartisan. This is just to create an opportunity for Canadians to share their stories. The Allison Inquiry is not to make any findings. It's not here to grind an axe. It's so that our elected representatives and our appointed senators have an opportunity to listen to you Canadians. And, you know, as MP, Dean Allison spoke earlier in this press conference. I mean, there are numbers. We know that a lot of us have been injured by the COVID-19 vaccines.

And it just raises the question. Can we not accept that we're here today, that many of us are injured, and we need to hear their stories and we need to privilege them? You know, when we were doing the National Citizens Inquiry, there were a couple of themes that came out that are troubling, but they need to be addressed and they need to be spoken about. And one was, is people that were vaccine injured really felt like they had taken one for the team.

And I think we need to understand and appreciate that a large number of Canadians were volunteering to take the COVID-19 vaccine to protect the rest of us. So they were doing something to protect us and now that they're injured, have a responsibility, A, to recognize that they were injured to listen to their stories, but we also have a tremendous responsibility to care for them. Another thing that they shared,

so, you know, first, you know, they were doing this to protect others. They were taking one for the team. But their experience, many of them, their experience with the medical community was, is that there was a reluctance to accept that they were actually injured by the vaccination. Some of them even described what most of us would describe as gaslighting. Like there's almost this refusal in the medical system to accept that they were vaccine injured. Now, we're all the same. It doesn't matter where we're just common citizens, whether we're elected members of parliament,

whether we're healthcare providers. We all had this experience where there was pressure on us not to question. And it's reasonable to assume that the medical community is also internalized that pressure, because they're there to help us, and they're under tremendous strain. And we're hoping that having ordinary Canadians sharing their stories at the Allison Inquiry will also assist the medical community in giving them permission to speak. Because here's the ethical problem that we have. And, you know, we basically have a commandment to love each other like we love ourselves.

And when it comes to, here we are in 2026, when it comes to those of us that have been injured by the vaccine, love includes listening to their stories, giving them a safe place for them to understand that, you know, they haven't lost their mind. They're not alone. We are going to listen to them. But loving them also includes then those that are vaccine injured, acknowledging that they're vaccine injured so that they can be treated properly, not, oh, it's something else, because there are protocols, there are treatments, and we do a disservice by not having this conversation, by not

focusing our care on those who have taken one for the team. We do them a disservice by not having this conversation. So we view this as a real opportunity. This is a real opportunity. This is a just an opportunity for Canadians to come together to share their stories in an open, nonpartisan environment. And so we are inviting all Canadians. We're inviting those that are vaccine injured to apply to become witnesses. So you can go to Allison Inquiry.com. You can also go to COVID testimony.com. You will find us. Apply to be a witness. If you You know somebody who's injured, encourage them to apply to be a witness. We are calling on all members of Parliament and senators to contact Dean Allison and apply to participate

in this inquiry. It will change you. You're already listening and thank you. You're already listening to the stories of Canadians who are vaccine injured. We know you're listening. This gives you another forum to do it in a more form. to do it in a more formal way. We're inviting you to join us. We're inviting the public. We're inviting the public to participate in this. You know, for the vaccine injured that want to have a

voice, that want to share their stories that that want to be heard and acknowledged, it's meaningful if there are people to listen. And so we're inviting you. The Allison Inquiry is going to be heard on September 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th. from a committee room on Parliament Hill, it will be broadcast live, and we're inviting all of Canadians to participate in what we anticipate is going to be a healing journey for the nation and a beginning for us to be free to basically have a conversation about something that we need to have a conversation about, not in a judging way,

but just listening to each other's stories so that together we can decide how to best move forward. Hello, my name is Teresa Buckley. and I'm a volunteer. And I just want to share with you just a little story about my daughter-in-law, and when I spoke with her about what it was that Sean and I were doing with MP Dean Allison. I told her about a yoga instructor that I had.

Her name was Drew Taylor. She testified at the National Citizen's Inquiry as well. Drew Taylor was a power yoga instructor. She was the strongest woman I'd ever known. She could just, she could do amazing things. She was so strong, mother of two, 32 years old, happily married. She took one COVID-19 vaccine, and within an hour, she was in the hospital. And she remained there for quite a while.

She finally started to get better, and she was released. And for her reasons, she got a second shot. The details behind that are her story. They're not mine. I'm just here to share with you that after she got her second shot, she now needs a walker. She has pots. And she faints about 30 times a day.

I think it's time that Canadians listen. I think it's time for people like Drew Taylor have a voice and I think they need to be heard. When I was sharing this with my daughter-in-law, I told her about Drew's story. And what my daughter-in-law told me was, I just don't understand why no one's talking about it. Why is everyone quiet? Why is everyone silent? It's kind of hard to sit in that silence.

So today we're not going to do that anymore. It's time. Canadians are suffering from sea to sea, and it's time to hear from them. So I just want to thank you. Thank you, Dean, for being courageous. And courage is infectious. Please go to our website, alisoninquiry.com, sign up to be a witness.

And we look forward to listening to you. The time is now. Thank you. So if there's any questions, we'll now take questions. Sure. Good morning, Dean. You've been a backbencher for a little while now. Many two years.

Yes, exactly, since the Hartford years. In today's leadership, do you have Pierre Polyev's blessing to be doing this? Oh, absolutely. I've talked to Pierre about this. I've talked to caucus about it. You know, the amazing thing is that every single member of Parliament, and I have talked to some liberals, has heard these same stories. So I think if you ask Pierre, he would tell you that he's out and about working very hard.

And I know that he hears these stories all the time. So absolutely, I think this is something that at the end of the day, all MPs here in their offices or when they're out and about. So absolutely. Question for Sean. You mentioned that this inquiry and the project of your hosting is going to be non-partisan in nature. And while you may have an argument there on the people that will be engaging in you, But at the brutal level, we're looking for a response from Parliament Hill.

Can you imagine that there's any opportunity to cross-partisan affiliate, given the fact that the Conservative Caucus was the only one that had MPs who weren't vaccinated in the lead-up and the conclusion of the 2021 election? Well, you know, I think that, you know, there was a division before unvaccinated and unvaccinated, but I think we need to transcend that now because the reality is we all had actually a very similar experience. We just believe different things. And, you know, I will be generalizing now. But I think we have to understand that people are people and we act the same.

And so, you know, just to... Welcome back to day four in the afternoon as we finish up with our final session. And I want to turn it over to my calling. Before I do it, Tony, I just want to welcome you. And thank you for taking the time to be here. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks.

So our next witness is Tony Lannigan. Tony, will you take the Bible in your right hand, please? Tony Lannigan, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God? Yes, I do. I'd like to introduce you to the inquiry. But the first point I wanted to make is it's become clear reviewing your file that the doctors agree that what you're going to describe to us is vaccine injury. And you can leave your mic on if you want. It'll make it easier for you.

That's great. So you're 38 years of age, which means you were 33 when these events happened. You have one daughter, Riley, who's here with you in support. You're now a part-time educational assistance, working with assistant, working with students with intellectual abilities. But you were a nurse for 10 years. Yes, I was a nurse assistant. Right, in acute care and palliative care. Yep.

And now you can't nurse. No, I cannot. Prior to the vaccination, you were very healthy. You did a lot of volunteering. You coached soccer. You were a social butterfly, and you worked eight to ten hours shifts on a full-time basis. Yep, yep, some 12-hour shifts as well, yes. And now that changed on March 26th.

26, 2021, you received a Pfizer shot. Can you please tell us what happened? Sure. March 26, 2021. I was on shift. I was not on, I wasn't on a break or a lunch. I was on my time. It was a rollout for the vaccines.

and because I was front line, I was ready to have mine. I walked down to a makeshift boardroom in my hospital to receive it. And at 9 o'clock, I received it at 9.05, my body denied it. I went into anaphylaxic response. I was sitting there. and can I just slow you down because you say anaphylactic shock and as a nurse that means something to you

but for the rest of us that speak the English language they're not going to know your blood pressure is rapidly dropping your throat and your tongue are starting to swell you're having difficulty breathing and then you lose consciousness so my first symptom was the roof of my mouth began to become itchy. And my co-worker said,

stand up, we need to go to emerge. And I'm very lucky I didn't get this vaccine at a clinic because by the time I got over to emerge was only 10 or 12 feet away. At that point, my blood pressure did drop in my heart rate. I had not one

at a different shot, like an EpiPen, I had three in total. Not one, not two. I had three. And none was helping the situation. So they gave me an IV of it. And that was continuous until they got me stable to transport me 45 minutes away to Charlottetown QEH trauma center. In trauma center, I don't recall very much. From my records, I do remember reading that once they try to reamie down off of, the appi that I began to go back into a shock response. And after that, I woke up in ICU, intensive care unit. And you were there for several days, weren't you?

A couple of days, yeah. And then I was released. That sounds like it was a frightening day, but unfortunately, that was not the scary part of all of this. But let's back up because it was a frightening day. It was terrifying. So can you share with us kind of what's going on with how you're experiencing it and what emotions you're feeling? Well, when I was walking down the hallway, I was texting my daughter about, like, you know, how proud of how much I loved her.

And, you know, that could have been my last text to my child. That's my pride and joy. So the fear was immense. It was, yeah, I did know what was going to have. happen. So just immediately. So you're on shift. You're actually on shift, but it's like, okay, you guys, go get your shot. You've got to set up here. You're in the hospital, thank goodness. And bang, like within minutes, your life's changed. Five minutes. Five minutes is what I took. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, not, yeah, not one, but three shots of epinephrine and then continuous.

Yeah. So you're released from ICU after a few days. Can you share? with us what happened after that? Yeah, so I went home with absolutely no support. No support. I never had any follow-ups. Nothing. So I felt as a caretaker, my obligation was to go back to work. Let's just brush this off. Let's go back to work. So I entered my first shift back. I don't know how many days later and I was going to get a blood glucose and one of my patients and I remember looking down at the machine and I could see the machine it was I could see the sheep and I could see the color couldn't read the numbers and at this point I realized my vision was impaired I went back down to the same emerge room that I was in and the

same doctor was on call and from there 11 months is how long my vision was impaired. And to this day, my right eye is still impaired. And when you say impaired, I mean, it was literally too blurry. Completely. I see. I wouldn't. So if I close my left eye right now, my right eye is blurred. I cannot read my name and I can't see your face.

But that's what it was continuously for 11 months because I couldn't. In both eyes. In both eyes. But then the one eye cleared. Mm-hmm. So with having that, my everyday life was turned up. down. I couldn't drive no more, obviously. You wouldn't want me behind the wheel. And I, uh, walking, like my gate was completely off, my balance. You can ask my family, like, I don't know,

can't count how many times I fell down my own stairs, right? Um, I couldn't read no more. Um, I went from my bed down to the couch. And at three o'clock, I put on a fake smile. So that way, my child had to try to have a normal life again. You also developed headaches. Can you share about that with her? I actually don't like the term headaches. I call it pressure. I have immense pressure in my brain.

And it forms around my right eye. I still affected eye. I kind of just pushed through my days with this pressure. It's now part of me. I've never had any answers for it. It's just there. So five years later, they don't know why you're feeling pressure. To be honest with you, I stopped going to doctors.

I stopped going. I had one doctor, so I was all in my head and turn around and give me Gabby Penton, pain meds, mental health meds. If you could see the amount of medication that I had, just as of recently I took back my life, came off all my meds. The only meds that helped me was Topa Max. That helped me and get whatever site I have back today. But I don't trust our system no more.

And I feel like a burden. Even coming here today, I was like, maybe my story shouldn't be here. So that's how everything made me feel. I'm not supposed to. Okay. I'd like to explore that a little bit. And first of all, understand that we're very excited.

for you to share your story, which is why we asked you to come. Yes. And, but it's intriguing that you've been mistreated by the medical system. And can you share with us some examples just so that we can understand what you faced? The main one was that I really sticks out to me as him telling me that was all in my head. What was, which visit was that? What, where were you in the? That was a doctor in Charlottetown that was medically looking into my eyes.

So there's that. So this is when you can't see out of both eyes? Yes, this is both. I left his practice that day and I never returned. Right, but I'm just trying to understand. So you can't see. You're basically now disabled. You're functionally blind.

Yeah, but no one would have said that. And you have an eye doctor telling you that it's all in your head. Yes, I did. I had, I had, um, psychiatrists that said, um, I don't know if it's appropriate to say, but said to me like shit happens, we move on, diagnosed me of PTSD, panic disorders, but told me to move on. And never talked to me about it. Like that was taboo.

We're not going to talk about that. We're just going to talk about everything else except for the vaccine. Okay. So I didn't realize this went into psychiatry also that they're not allowed to talk. So you're diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. Yes, and panic disorders. And you are getting treatment by a psychiatrist that is being paid to basically address the mental difficulties that you're having. Yes.

I'm not addressing them at the same time. But you can't really talk about what is the most stressful part of your life, which then actually makes it worse. Sure does. Yeah. So yeah, there was that, but then I was also trying, you know, I wasn't working, so I had to try with workers' comp. It took me three years to go through that court procedure.

And the reason behind why I wasn't going to be compensated was because my employer did not expect me to get the vaccine. I worked for help PEI. And the reason why I wasn't compensated was because they did not expect me to get it. Would I have had a job if I said no? Right. Okay. So they're playing the game. So you're going to be sent home without pay if you don't get it.

but because you could be sent home without pay, then you didn't need to get it so it's not a work requirement and therefore you don't get workers' compensation. Now, on the flip side, I did win that case. What did it get me? Nothing. I actually went back to school, like you said, found a new passion because I was really passionate at work and at the hospital.

So I found a new passion in working at the school system. advocating for people that can't advocate themselves. But, so what did they do? They gave me money to pay back my disability, because disability cut me out. Disability wanted their money back. So the money went to them. But they made me tax that money.

So this year, I have no child tax support because I make too much money, but I never. It was just money I had to pay back. And I just want to make sure I understand. So you're getting disability insurance, but you don't have to pay tax on that. Or did you have to pay tax on disability? I did. Okay, so you're paying tax on that, and then you get workers' compensation,

but you have to pay that all back to the disability people. Yeah, yeah. And so I have summers off. That's a perk, I guess, working in school education. But I have to go through EI in summers because we're going to. to work there. But yet if I was still nursing or so at the hospital, like, I'd still be making money. I'd still be working, but they don't want to compensate that either. Right. Okay. I want to go through some of your physical experience again. My understanding is that you've

developed really severe fatigue. Can you talk to us about it, that and how it is today? Yeah. So in the beginning, like I said, I went from the bed to the couch. I tried to live normally because my daughter was watching, but that was really exhausting. I was hard to. My body ached. My head was constantly with the pressure, and I was fatigue. I was always tired, always tired. And today, I still have a fatigue.

I fight it, but it's still currently there. I just... In fact, in an earlier interview, you shared with me that some days even showering, might be a challenge. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, sometimes I relate that to the mental health aspect, too. You know, like, there's that.

And then just every day, yeah, like, I can't, I had difficulties going out in public because we're scrutinized in the public. You know, I was a taboo subject. So going to the stores or grocery shop, I was terrified. It took me a long time to go back by myself. I still don't really go grocery shopping by myself. I have my daughter. You know, I have my support.

So when you say it's taboo, you mean within your community because you're vaccine injured? Yeah. You're ostracized? Yeah. I had support. Like, you know, there's some people that absolutely stood behind me in support, but no one wanted to talk about it. It was like, well, we support her. We have sympathy, but they didn't want to talk about it.

I lost friends. I didn't Yeah You're also affected cognitively Can you share with us about that? Yeah, I have a hard time articulating myself

I mean I might sound okay right now Some days I have a lot of brain fog So things don't come clearly to me My speech sometimes is completely off I'll stutter, I'll stammer I'll try to find a word I tried practicing a couple words in the bathroom earlier

because I'm like, oh, what if I can't say it? And again, so I just want people to understand what you're saying. So you've lost the ability sometimes to speak clearly. Completely, yeah. And I never was like this before. You can ask anybody, I was a chatterbox, social. I love being around people. I can't go in crowds.

It was really hard to come here today. Right. I walked in this building and I had a panic attack. Yeah. And so when I get worked up, it gets really tight. around my chest. And that's just like my anaphylaxis. It kind of revolving for me.

It brings me back to that day. Well, again, you know, appreciate you coming. Yes, thank you. And this was important for you too, wasn't it? Yes, it's very important. Like, I like, I want to advocate for people, but I never advocate it for myself because it was hard. But I want my daughter to see that, you know,

no matter what, can you guys speak up for yourself? You got to be heard. And maybe after this week, maybe after this week we can be heard. Yeah, that's the goal. What would, I'll just have one more question for you, Michelle. What would your message to Parliament be if all the Parliament was listening to me? Doesn't have to be perfect. Just do something.

Yep. Don't abandon us. Tony, thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate it. And as a first-line responder, we appreciate what you've done. I love my community. It's so important. I loved it. Our nurses actually are the ones on the front lines.

Don't tell the doctor next to you that. But they're all kidding. You know, you guys perform a great function. And I understand as, you know, you feel. like you put yourself out in the community, well-respected. You know, people love what you do. And now you're not able to do what you've always done. No, yeah, like my identity was, that's what I was.

I was good mom. It's great in my community. I lost that that day. But I didn't let it take it. You know, I didn't, I was saying to some of the vaccine survivors here too, that I stopped letting it consume. I stopped letting it consume me. So I'm back out there.

I found a passion, and I'm working with youth that can't, you know, always advocate for themselves. What a better way to be in your community than do that. So I love my job again. I miss my old job. I'd love to go back. Like, you know, why didn't they ease me back into it? There was nothing.

I lost my job. I didn't leave my job. Lost it. Well, and now you, as we, what we're trying to do is give people permission to speak publicly about these injuries. So we hope that not only all the people that are here, but everyone in this country, members of parliament, can start talking about this thing in a more public way, right? Because there's no way we can resolve any kind of resolution if we're not allowed to talk about these things, right? Yes, exactly.

And I appreciate you for doing this. Well, we're going to keep talking about. We're not going to stop now. I appreciate your daughter being here today. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. I needed it. No kidding.

But, you know, talk to me about the relationship with your family. Yeah, no. She's my best friend. I'll say this, and this is vulnerable to me to say, but I wouldn't be here if I didn't have hurt. I wouldn't have went through all this. It would have been too hard. So she's my reason.

And it sounds like you got a good support at home. I do. I really do. It's awesome. Thank you. Well, Tony, thank you once again. We would really appreciate you taking the time to be here. And like I said, you thought at times you didn't want to be here, but your testimony is so important.

And it's so important for everybody else to hear what you have to say. So thank you so much. Thank you. Can I just add one thing? So here you are. You've had the anaphylactic shock, but that was just the beginning. Yeah.

You're basically disabled. And the public health officer of your province, Heather Morrison says publicly that you recovered and were okay, not naming you by name, but everyone knew they were talking about you. No, no, she's fine. Yeah, there's an adverse reaction. They talked about it and they said that she's rehome.

recovering and fine. Dr. Heather Morrison, I reached out to you. Dennis King, I reached out to you. I wasn't fine. And you never responded back to me. And they never corrected the lie. The public lie. No.

Thank you. It's just been a pleasure having with you. Thank you so much. Our next witness is Dr. Peter McCullough. Peter, if you'll take the Bible in your right hand, Dr. Peter McCullough, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so I'll be God. By way of introduction to the inquiry, Dr. McCullough is an interest, or internist, cardiologist, a pediologist, sorry, I'm switching that, holding degrees from Baylor University,

University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University. Dr. McCullough has broadly published on a range of topics in medicine with over 1,000 publications and over 700 citations in the National Library of Medicine. Dr. McCullough, I expect that there are a few individuals on earth that have published as much peer-reviewed research as you have. Dr. McCullough is a well-known public figure in medicine and is a frequent contributor on numerous mainstream and independent media platforms. He is testified multiple times in the U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, European Parliament, and many state capitals concerning public health policy. He practices internal medicine and cardiologists in Dallas, Texas. And Dr. McCullough, we are pleased that you can add to that resume that you've testified in the parliamentary committee in Ottawa in Canada.

Now, you're here to testify in issues surrounding the COVID-19 vaccines, and I understand that you've prepared a presentation to help us understand this. Mr. Chairman Allison and Mr. Buckley, members of Parliament, members of the press, members of the Canadian citizenry. It's a pleasure to present today on pandemic lessons learned. COVID-19 vaccine injuries and a path forward. As introduced, I'm Dr. Peter McCullough. And I'm in practice. I see an examine patients every day. I do research. I have been involved firsthand in the pandemic from the very beginning before the vaccines arrived on the market. I have over 100 peer-reviewed manuscripts on the pandemic and on vaccine

safety, and I have medical authority to say what I'm about to say today. I'm going to follow this outline and make some comments along these points, which I think will be very important, and it will bring into light what is going on in this large number of vaccine injured individuals who have come forward bravely and disclosed what's happened to them since COVID-19 vaccination. What many didn't know is that there is an entire business of pandemic planning and preparedness that involves global vaccination. This is a slide from the World Health Organization in September 2019, three months before the outbreak was announced. a whole array of diseases. And you can see the leaders of the board there,

including Jeremy Farrar, who's the current chief scientific officer of the WHO, Anthony Fauci, former NIA director, and senior White House coronavirus advisor. This is in 2019. This is before the pandemic. There was tremendous planning that occurred. It goes all the way back to about 2004

with the U.S. bioweapons program. There are now 20 books, at least, written on how pandemic preparedness and anticipation occurred for this outbreak, including the development of messenger RNA vaccines. In 2012, DARPA, the research unit of the U.S. military announced a program called the Adept P3 program. It stated its goal in 2012 was to end pandemics in 60 days using messenger RNA vaccines. These messenger RNA vaccines had been in development for nearly a decade before they were rolled out. They weren't rushed. These were in development for a very long time. That's how Moderna was able

to announce within five days of Trump declaring a public health crisis. Moderna declared they had a vaccine in five days. It's because they had been working on this for years. What we've learned is that there are four beta human coronaviruses that can cause a common cold. Now, they are a small fraction of the common cold. This is before the pandemic. Each one of the viruses has a globe to it called the nucleocapsid,

and then proteins on the surface called spike proteins. A U.S.-Chinese collaboration by some of the individuals I showed on the last slide was underway since at least 2012 to create SARS-CoV-2, the virus that got us sick. The spike protein was intentionally engineered to invade humanized animal respiratory tract and kill the animals. It was far more contagious than any other beta coronavirus. And as we sit here today, if we use artificial intelligence to drill down through populations and through county and regional and provincial databases

and ask the question, how many of us got this gain of function virus as an infection? The answer is 97%. 97% of us have a virus that has attacked our bodies that was a product of gain of function, biological threat research in Wuhan, China. This is a mind-blowing observation. Now, to make matters worse,

this spike protein, as you can see on the surface, 1,255 amino acids, 38, 31 base pairs coding for it, it was the principal antigenic target of all the vaccines. This is the lethal part of the virus. The lethal part of the virus. Every single vaccine, Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen, AstraZeneca, Novavax, Medagogo, your one you had that never made the market. They all featured the lethal part of the virus. virus, not a benign nucleocapsia. There's 30 proteins in this virus. They featured the lethal

part of the virus. That's never happened in human vaccinology, ever. Tetanus can be lethal, but we don't give the tetanus toxin. We give tetanus toxoid a benign protein. This has never happened in the history of medicine. And to take the genetic code for the spike protein, and to load it on fully synthetic messenger RNA that's indestructible by human enzymes. And to create a spike protein, which itself is indestructible by human enzymes. There are no enzymes that dissolve either messenger RNA or spike protein.

And then injected into the human body was, I think, the greatest gamble in medical history. And from the very beginning, if we're all going to get a virus, which had appeared obvious in 2020, I proposed and published the most frequently cited paper throughout the pandemic and as the rationale for early treatment. There was always a rationale. We heard from one of the doctors from Alberta earlier that we could treat this illness

and help people avoid hospitalization and death. Yet governments all over the world, particularly Canada, to this day don't feature multi-drug treatment to help people avoid hospitalization and death. We're six years into this. This is an astonishing set of revelation. If we're all going to get this illness, 20% of us got it before the vaccine ever rolled out. Government should have been on early treatment protocols at home to avoid hospitalization and death. Almost all the deaths that occurred with the viral infection occurred in the hospital.

You're looking at the only public figure in the world who put it in writing in August of 2020 that this vaccine program was again. gamble. It was a gamble with all of humanity. The proposal was inject the synthetic genetic code for the lethal part of the virus. And if the human body cannot neutralize that spike protein, and everybody has a different library of antibodies, that spike protein is going to go cause damage. And that's what's happened in so many of the individuals who presented. Now listen, many people took the vaccine, and they are ostensibly unharmed. Thankfully, many stopped after one or two shots. In the United States, our estimate now is less than 9% of people are taking boosters.

The public knows these vaccines turn out not to be safe. A Razmussen survey indicated 56% of Americans believe large numbers of deaths have occurred after the vaccine. This is a population-based representative survey. What's gone on? What is going on in the bodies of these vaccine injured patients? Messenger RNA, which has been pseudo-urigenated. That means it's been made indestructible by a Nobel prize-winning process, replacing urosol, one of the four base pairs with pseudo-uridine. This is injected. It circulates widely in the human body in lipid nanoparticles. Lipid nanoparticles cross the blood-bate barrier. It crossed into the eye. They explain all these syndromes that we've heard

today, the messenger RNA is readily taken up in the body, and the spike protein is produced in large quantities. This lethal protein, it causes cell disruption in death. It's expressed on the cell surface, as shown at the top. It has homology with over three dozen human proteins, so it immediately incites autoimmunity. The body knows the spike protein is not supposed to be here, and so the body tries to envelop the spike protein in phospholipid packets called exosomes. But clearly the spike protein and the amount of spike protein exposed to the body when the vaccine is manyfold greater than the infection. The infection, the ACE receptor actually catamilizes part of the spike protein.

So we get the tip of the spike protein with the infection, but we still get it in our body. the vaccinated get full-length spike protein, it trimorizes, and then it travels in the bloodstream, and each person's different, depending on where the blood flow happened to go, where the spike protein interacts, that's the reason why we see these array of syndromes. Now, those who took AstraZanekar Janssen, by the way, made by the same biosecurity firm outside Baltimore, emerging biosolutions, that was an adenoviral vector. it downloaded the genetic code, the DNA code for spike protein. It was transcribed, and there's a huge blast of spike protein here,

but hopefully the adenoviral vector is gone, and now it's just a matter of getting admitted of the residual spike protein. In the United States, about 9% took one of these vaccines. The array of vaccine injury syndromes that you've seen over the course of the last three days is mind-boggling of how a single biopharmacist, product can cause this much disease and damage across so many organ systems. How can that be? Some of you must be wondering, how in the world can one person have blindness, another

person have aneurysm, another person have his son die of a cardiac arrest? How can that be from one or two shots? It's because they're genetic and it's because the protein is gain of function research. It was designed to kill. In fact, people who have taken these vaccines in many ways are lucky to be alive because their library of antibodies directed against the spike protein must be perfectly neutralizing it. That's the only explanation that exists right now. Now, there's variation in the vaccine lots. Some lots probably had very little messenger RNA in it. some were hyperloaded.

There's a website called How Bad Is My Bad Is My Batch.com? One can sort this out. And it's in the peer-reviewed literature, and one is able to evaluate what the risk does with their badge. Each person has their own genetics. And it's been my clinical experience after examining thousands of patients that if anyone has any little flaw in their genetics, in their epigenetics,

or in their baseline condition, the vaccine seems to strike at that flaw. For example, if someone has a proclivity to blood clotting, they take the vaccine, boom. We're seeing the biggest blood clots we've ever seen in medical history. A blood clot in the leg before the pandemic was about an inch long. I have patients where the entire leg is a solid blood clot, even extending up to the inferior vina cava. we are seeing anyone who has a polymorphism, a genetic difference in their contractile proteins in the heart, the sarcomere, the other cystic proteins, the non-sarcomeric proteins, to be the ones who are hit with myocarditis, for an example. So it's a multifactorial Venn diagram of who's going to end up with a vaccine injury and who's going to be spared.

When I went on the Joe Rogan podcast towards the end of 2021, that was the toughest question I asked by Joe Rogan. He said, Dr. McCullough, if these vaccines are so bad, why isn't everybody injured in dead? I didn't have an answer, but I have an answer now. It's partly the variation in the concentration in the vials, which Public Health Canada and the Canadian agencies have refused to examine the concentration of messenger RNA or adenovirus. DNA in the vials or examined for contaminants. It's individual baseline variation, and then it's the library of antibodies that they raise against this spike protein. If their immune system is perfect, they can neutralize every single bit of that spike protein, hopefully forever, and they never have a problem. But an important paper by Yonkers from Harvard with little boys who are suffering

myocarditis in Mass General Hospital, and a control group of boys who are fine for from taking the vaccine, the boys who had myocarditis, the antibodies were missing the spike protein. They were just off, and the spike protein was allowed to cause damage. So there's a great diversity of these vaccine injury syndromes. To make it more complicated, the spike protein shown on the left, it folds, it goes in different patterns, and it has different kind of characteristics of its own in the human body. So the spike protein in one human body is not the same in another human body.

It may fold in a way where it damages neurologic receptors in the spinal cord causing transverse myelitis. It may fold in a way where it attaches to red blood cells and forms microbloods and forms blindness in the eye. And you can see on the right here, it goes everywhere. From the biodistribution and what we understand is this, messenger RNA or adenoviral DNA, lipid nanoparticles and spike protein go everywhere in the human body. This is the last thing you would want with a genetic code that is coding for a lethal protein.

It is the worst biological idea I've ever heard in my life. And yet not a single doctor here in academic medicine in Canada questioned it. Not a single public health agency official question it. Not a single public figure question it outside of me in August of 2020. And the question is, why? Why? I think the world was in a fear-driven trance. I think the propaganda over this pandemic, it worked.

All these messages they came out, that no one is safe, whatever, and everyone, this people were entranced in fear, and they were conditioned to undergo mass vaccination. It was population preparation. When this paper hit August 7th of 2021 in the New England Journal of Medicine, this should have been the absolute end of COVID-19 vaccination. Look at this paper. Myocarditis after messenger RNA vaccination. It's in the New England Journal of Medicine, the most widely read journal in all of medicine in the entire world. It's a 42-year-old man who takes Moderna.

He's perfectly healthy. and he dies three days in the hospital with every bit of supportive care that they can give, and he dies of fatal myocarditis. If Moderna can kill a 42-year-old healthy man right in front of the doctors and nurses in the hospital, how does Sean Hartman stand a chance? When I saw this, I was absolutely terrified. I wrote the American College of Cardiology. I said, we can't possibly advocate for these.

and I was shut down everywhere. This was the seminal paper. It turns out Senator Johnson held a hearing. The Israelis were reporting fatal cases in January, February of 2021. They had 62 Israeli Defense Force soldiers. Two died of myocarditis like this man. The public health apparatus in the United States, the White House, the CDC, and the FDA. They knew about this in February of 2021.

They knew the vaccine could result in death. Remember, vaccines are given to healthy people, not sick people. The standard is different than a drug. If I'm treating a sick heart failure patient, we may have risks and benefits with a drug in a serious disease. But a vaccine's on a different level. A vaccine should never cause death. We never trade a death of a healthy person for a theoretical population benefit. And that's what the public health apparatus here is.

in Canada still says that these are rare. And the last time I testified in the U.S. Senate, they said, you know, it was worth it. I think one of the centers said it's worth it, that we sacrifice some lives with an unsafe vaccination for the theoretical benefit to the population. I disagree. I think one death is one death to many. And this is New England Journal of Medicine. This is not hidden.

Within a few months, two boys, one in Minnesota and one in Connecticut, age 16. and 17 are found dead in their beds. It's published in archives of pathology, autopsy-proven, fatal myopacarditis, and then the cases started to pour in. They literally poured in. And I would propose today that any unexplained cardiac arrest in the pandemic years should be examined for fatal COVID-19 vaccine myopacarditis. We heard from a woman today that she has an aneurysm in the back of her head, that she's worried about a sudden intercranial hemorrhage. This paper from Oda and colleagues

shows the vaccine spike protein in the arteries in the brain, causing aneurysms and ruptures, and some of these patients died. If you look at that table, many of these patients never had the infection. They've only taken the vaccine. We simply cannot have a vaccine that can eat away at blood vessels

and cause blindness or cause aneurysm, intercranial hemorrhage. It simply cannot be used, and it's absolutely tragic that young children in Canada are giving this on a routine basis. We've published that both the infection and the vaccine combined to form hybrid harms, that we get super loaded with the spike protein with the infection and taking the vaccine. And because the vaccine doesn't stop the infection, doesn't stop transmission, and the vaccine did not reduce hospitalizations and deaths. There's not a single valid study that shows this. The vaccinated got COVID just as frequently as the unvaccinated.

So they became super loaded with this gain of function spike protein that was devised in the Wuhan Institute of Virology under a U.S. joint Chinese collaboration. This isn't a conspiracy theorist. This is a rational theory. We're not conspiracy. We're all rational theorists. We have rational ideas of what's happening, and that's the purpose of this hearing, to exposit what we understand is happening now to the Canadian population. This is an important paper we just published in the European Society of Medicine. This is my patient.

He's taken three Pfizer vaccines, and we have found the Pfizer vaccine intact and the vaccine spike protein intact in his bloodstream three and a half years after he took the shot. No wonder people are sick for years. This is not supposed to be in the human bloodstream. We did skin biopsies, two sets of them. We found the vaccine and the spike protein in the skin. He's had MRI proven myocarditis. He's had blood clots with pulmonary embolism.

he had a predisposing factor. He had a blood clot about eight years before he took the shots. So any reasonable doctor would say, no, you shouldn't take a vaccine that causes blood clots if you're predisposed to blood clots. But under current vaccine policy, everyone, irrespective of any condition, should take a vaccine.

He worked for a pharmaceutical company. He was told he had to take that to keep his job. He's been terribly sick afterwards, and he's a very courageous volunteer to be in a research. three and a half years after the vaccine. Now we've sent this to Health and Human Services, we've sent this to all the U.S. leadership, no response. The CDC says the vaccine is out of the body in a couple days.

It's still on their website. It's a bold-faced lie. We are dealing with, at least in some people, the vaccine staying in the body a very long time. This is not the first paper. There's a paper by Brogna and colleagues that have identified the messenger RNA out to six months and half of people.

There's a paper from Yale finding it about the same duration. We can use reverse QPCR to find the vaccine, and we can use direct radioimmino assay to find the spike protein. This is alarming. This is probably the most alarming paper I'm showing you. We've analyzed it in two papers with over 600 references, and by the way, there are about 600,000 peer-reviewed papers on the COVID-19 pandemic.

150,000 deal with the vaccines. 15,000 deal with vaccine safety. So I'm summarizing what's probably in 15,000 papers. We have nearly 1,000 cited in these two papers. The conclusion is easy to see. The observed harms far outweigh the theoretical benefits. They outweigh the theory. And as the longer we go in the pandemic,

and people keep getting the infection over and over again, and it becomes milder and milder, they observed harms even greater outweigh the theoretical benefits, the observed harms. Claiming that a side effect is rare is not an adequate rationale for vaccination. Rarity doesn't matter because vaccines are applied to healthy people. One person is one person too many. Very important paper was published in JAMA, demonstrating that the higher antibodies to the spike protein indicate a proxy for the spike protein and symptoms and people after vaccination. Now, they're antibodies, so they're not directly measuring the spike protein, but the correlation in the peer-viewed literature is about 0.8 to 0.9. This test is available. It's a commercially available assay, and we rely on it greatly in the United States.

is offered by Lab Corp, and it gives a range of receptor binding domain units per ML. And as a general rule, if one has just had the infection, no vaccine, they're typically below 1,000. Every paper published using this serology, people under 1,000 seem to be free and clear. When people are closer to 5,000, we start to find spike protein in the bloodstream

when we do research assays for this. And people up around 25,000, honestly, they're in trouble. It's a proxy for how much spike protein is in the human body. Let me see a show of hands. How many of you who are vaccine injured have had this test done? Just a handful. I can tell you, this is a standard of care for any vaccine injured to have a proxy for how much the body's been loaded with spike protein.

Very low spike antibodies had us in a different direction. Higher levels make us very assured that what's going on is directly related to the spike protein. Risk stratification. Who's at risk for a cardiac arrest depends on this antibody level. So I always take a detailed infection history, a vaccine history, measure the antibodies. If they're less than 1,000, no further care is needed. But then if they are higher risk, we go through a series of examinations.

This is what I do in my practice. I would wager to say, this is higher quality medical care than every single vaccine-injured patient received that's testified in the last three days. It's organized, it's peer-reviewed, and it's published. It's all science-backed, and there's actions that I take as a doctor. And under my watch, I don't have patients developing new blood clots or cardiac rests. And under my watch, I'm gratified to see people slowly improve. I follow these methods in patients from Canada, who are referred to me, and I deliver results. The Canadian doctors are not doing this.

Very importantly, and this has been brought up, besides the vaccine injury syndromes that we've seen, which are cardiovascular, neurologic, thrombotic, and immunologic, there's a great concern regarding cancer risks. This came out in 2025. Why are all these young people getting cancer? they went around to leading cancer centers, and they asked them what's changed over the last five years.

They asked everyone. And the doctors at the cancer center said, well, maybe it's pollution, maybe it's cell phones, maybe it's something in the water. Not a single person interviewed or a single staff writer thought it could be related to a global pandemic that we just went through. The institutional blindness to the pandemic, both the infection and the vaccine, is extraordinary.

You read pieces like this and you cannot believe your eyes. What's changed? You saw one of the presenters. She showed you cancer rising. Cancer is rising. That's the reason why Time wrote this article. But they gave no consideration to the possibility that we could have just gone through a pandemic and had undertaken global mass genetic vaccination.

This paper caught my attention. I think it's the best one out there. 66 article-level reports describing cancer rising both with COVID-19 infection and vaccination, both. And there's a variety of mechanisms. We've recently published this paper. There could be at least 35 mechanisms by which this is happening. The spike protein suppresses tumor surveillance. The message RNA interferes with DNA repair.

There's a whole series of changes in the body that are oncogenic. My great fear is that every person in this room now is at increased risk of cancer more so than we were before the pandemic. Because of the infection, the vaccines, and both. But the trends are clear. All cancers, particularly the solid organ cancers, are on the way up. But this could just be observational. Cancer was going up before the pandemic. Now it's really hockey sticking up as shown in the lower right-hand corner.

Here's a patient of mine. A bladder cancer. We take a sample of the bladder cancer. She's in her 30s. I've never seen a woman in her 30s with bladder cancer this large, and we find part of the Pfizer code in her bladder cancer. Not the whole code, but 20 base pairs. What is the vaccine genetic material doing in cancer tumor tissue?

We don't know, but my intuition is it's not good. And that's the reason why the word turbo cancer is used. I think it's a very appropriate term. Cancer is moving far more quickly, presenting at a more severe stage than being far more fatal than we've ever seen it before. But when it's right there at the scene of the crime, it screams for investigation. Do you know the National Cancer Institute, the National Institute,

the National Institutes of Health is doing nothing on this. Health Canada is doing nothing on this. Not a single institution worldwide is doing anything on these important, peer-reviewed, fully published observations of what's going on in vaccinated patients. This patient we just published, he took three shots,

he developed a cardiac tumor, spread to his brain, he died, and we got the tissue, and we found evidence of vaccine genetic material coding for fragments of the spike protein in the tumor. 170 days after his last shot. Is it an innocent bystander or did it cause acceleration of this tumor? I don't know, but I'm greatly concerned.

Cancer statistics going up. Mechanisms of action that support the vaccines are basically oncogenic. And now we have direct tissue. examination. What's the path forward? Fortunately, the Japanese, and I give Dr. Tanakawa a tremendous amount of credit, he found that a natural exogenous enzyme does reliably dissolve the spike protein, both inside cells and outside cells, that enzyme is natokinase. It's derived from the fermentation of soy or from chickpeas, reliably, reliably. And there's probably about five papers in the peer-reviewed literature.

The Japanese have been using this for over a thousand years because it has anti-athoroscronic effects. They eat nato. But this is the enzyme, so it's derived actually in much higher concentrations now. And this is, I think, a reliable way to dissolve the spike protein. It's been my observation that none of these vaccine syndromes

ever get better without getting rid of the spike protein. Taking all these pain medicines, taking all these psychiatric medicines, Doing all these other things except for getting rid of the spike protein never works. Never. The spike protein is job one. The people are loaded with it and we have to get rid of it. The second set of enzymes comes from bromelin, which is derived from pineapple and the stems of pineapple.

It reliably dissolves the spike protein. About 40% absorbed, maximum blood levels an hour. It actually is an anticoagulant. It prolongs with methrombin time. Many of what you saw today were blood clots. I have found these large blood clots do not dissolve on their own with conventional blood thinners. Conventional blood thinners, by the way, don't dissolve blood clots. They just hold the coagulation system static.

This actually helps dissolve blood clots, nanokinase and bromulins. So I use them together under careful observation, given the bleeding risks. Nanokinase and bromline are widely available in Canada. And I think it's sad that the vaccine injured, many of them do not know about this fundamental approach. Here are the data demonstrating bromulin dissolves SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Very important. Percumin, another natural product in high doses reduced COVID-19 severity. The Indians show this in others, reduced the risk of hospitalization in death because it partially blocks the spike protein.

Another natural product. I can't find prescription medicines to do this. So we proposed, now three years ago, that we combined nato-kindity. bromine and curcumin, and administer together and advance the doses as a fundamental way of treating patients after SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccine injury syndromes. It's been copyrighted in my name, McCullough Protocol, Base spike protein detoxification, as you can see here. But I have found that this is needed for years to ultimately lessen the intensity and severity of symptoms and rid people of the spike protein, and hopefully the body is getting rid of the genetic material and some other

disposal means, and there's got to be some molecular fatigue. I don't think we can carry Pfizer the rest of our lives and our bodies. But the point is, this is the base. This is fundamental. Every vaccine injured patient should be doing this. I haven't found a single vaccine injured patient get better without it, not a one. Not a one. This is very important. It's a sad observation that Canadian doctors are not recommending these three simple, over-the-counter products for people to use. And I think Public Health Agency Canada would do a huge service now to make an immediate turn and do research on this, further develop the protocols, and get people relief.

Here's one of my patients with myocarditis and a blood clot. It took about 20 months to see his antibody concentrations go from 7534 to 2783. We typically see the spike protein come out of the body out of the bloodstream at about 5,000, and he's remarkably better. He's all done. His vaccine injury syndrome resolved. But you can see here in the gallery, these Canadians have not even had the blood test to know where they are.

We've got to get a move on in treating vaccine injuries. syndromes. I can't be the only doctor thinking this way. I formulated the first multi-dog treatment protocol to treat COVID-19 and prevent hospitalization and death, and I formulated the first multi-agent approach to treat vaccine injury syndromes. Public Health Agency Canada needs to get a move on. My phone is on. I'll take a call anytime night or day. Another important drug I prescribe is in all the myopacchariditis cases, they must get Colchicine. This is a prescription drug, but it's derived from a natural product. It's derived from a purple flower, and it reduces inflammation in the heart. It's vital. It's vital. In this paper,

these doctors actually had somebody with vaccine myocarditis. They got them better on colchicine. And so what did they do? They gave him another shot. And then he got more myocarditis. So they put him back on Colchicine, and he got better. And what they do, they continued the Colchicine, and they challenged it. They gave him another shot, and he was fine. That shows you how powerful Colchicine is. Now, the risk is life three times, very unwise. But I would wager to say the majority of patients I've seen from Canada with myopacranitis are not even prescribed colchicine. A basic drug, this is a generic $3 drug, a fundamental drug. Another drug I've worked with now, treated a Canadian subject with us is a generic medication used in very low doses. So it's a drug

used previously in transplant patients and in longevity studies called rapamycin. But this man's a college student. He had baseline antibodies of 7,058, myocarditis. He was in heart failure. He's very, very sick. He tried to drop out of college. Seven months of detoxification with the McCullar protocol plus Colchicine and prednisone and rapamycin. Antibate's down to 2650 resolved his syndrome. He's back at school. He's good. It takes drugs that are dealing with the fundamental process, not pain medicines, not things are trying to mask symptoms, but drugs that are treating the basic pathophysiology here to get people better. What are the other things that I found useful? Besides everybody getting nanokinase,

bromlin, and curcumin, which takes years. Intensified detoxification, there are some supportive data with nacetyl cysteine. Taken twice a day, it may demature. The spike protein helped with some elimination. Loss of mental clarity, a nicotine patch, seven milligrams a day. That's available over the counter in the United States. Paper from Switzerland supports that.

Suspected or recurrent persistent SARS-CoVe to infection. Ivermectin for 90 days. That's called a reservoir. A recent trial was tried with Pexlovid for a reservoir patients that had failed. But in my experience, ivermectin is effective. For Potts, postural arthritis tecocardia syndrome, it is a manifestation of subclinical myoparicarditis, so colchicine, natalol, I use an additional drug there for the hypotension

called adrenal cortex, which is a supplement. The autoimmune syndromes, hydroxychloroquine, 200 milligrams twice a day, but you have to check for it. We have to check the blood, ANA, antacitrated peptide, and the rheumatoid factor. A lot of our vaccine injured patients never had these blood tests obtained. Myocarditis, I've told you the program, base detox, colchicine, prednisone, rapamycin in some cases. All the studies show hyperbaric oxygen is beneficial.

Every single study. Canada should have a whole network of hyperbaric chambers. It can help people recover. Hot sauna and perspiration, I told you, the vaccine and the spike protein area in the skin. It's right near the sweat glands. The vaccine itself, message RNA comes out in breast milk, which is modified sweat. and so we strongly advocate sweating, therapeutic sweating, perspiration. There's only three ways to get something out of the body.

The liver, the kidneys, and sweat. It looks like the vaccine and spank protein go out and sweats. You Canadians up north wearing your down jackets all the time. You don't sweat too much. You've got to get out there and sweat. If you want the spike protein out of your body, sweating is very important. A lot of research on favorable microbiome. The human microbiome may have.

help clear things out. I think it's secondary to this program of systemic enzymes. So to finish and conclude, this inquiry hearing testimony from Canadians who were injured by a medical intervention, they were told was safe and effective and necessary. The regulatory apparatus approved these products did not protect them. The surveillance systems that should have detected the injury signal were structurally incapable of doing so, and the scientific question, that could have been answered before the rollout remained unanswered. Now, to make matters worse, Canadian authorities squashed any ability of doctors to talk to one another

and discuss these problems and come up with solutions. They ban doctors from investigating these cases, and they have worked against all the efforts of Canadian doctors to compassionately care for these people. And that is a crime. The government needs to get out of the way of doctors and nurses and let them get back to the work of taking care of Canadians. We need acknowledgement that these vaccine injuries are real. We need accountability, research, and treatment.

And above all, we need far more hearings like this that will exposit what's going on and will shed light on the problem and light will prevail over darkness. good will prevail for evil. I'm Dr. Peter McCullough. There's my comments. Dr. McCullough, one thing that caught my attention was as you were talking about how the vaccine is found within the body,

you gave an example of three and a half years afterwards. And my understanding is that there's other studies showing at least the persistence of spike protein. Can you help us to understand, like how is it possible? that spike protein is remaining that long in the body. Is the body still making it from the MRNA ejection? I think in part, Bessinger RNA is still making it.

But remember, the adenoviral vaccines, Johnson and AstraZeneca, they still have a long tail of spike protein in the bloodstream. We can't find any natural human enzyme that, breaks it down. There's always collagenases, there's always hydrolysis, there's, you know, hapane and all kinds of other, and the human body can break down every protein that's natural. This protein is not natural. It's an unnatural synthetic protein made in the Chinese lab. That's the problem. Okay, and I just want to make sure that I understand it. So the spike protein is the dangerous part of the virus. So if I use the word, if I said, well, that's really a poison. By protein,

it causes damage within us. It's a poison. So what happens is, is we get injected with a poison and our body can't ever get rid of it. It just stays there. You know, like all of their proteins, there has to be some fatigue. As proteins move through the human body, we have the reticular endothelial system. There's all kinds of protein packaging. There has to be some fatigue in this. I don't believe a single protein can last in the human body for 100 years. There are ways of infections, though, to persist in the body for a very long time and make people sick. But it's because the organisms have found a crafty way of doing it.

And the two examples that come to mind are Lyme disease, Borrelia Borgdorferi, very long time. and the other one is syphilis. Syphilis can be in the human body for decades. We don't have evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 virus. So far, the evidence are the virus itself can live in the human body about a year, and that's from an autopsy study from Chertow. We don't know how long the virus itself can live, but we're finding evidence from multiple sources that the spike protein,

little tip of it from the infection, and the full-length spike protein from the vaccine is there for a long time. And is it like one thing, and it may be that I just don't understand it, but with the MRNA vaccines, my understanding is, especially like the Pfizer with the lipid nanoparticles, it goes into our cell and basically turns our cell into a factory that then spits out these spike proteins into our body. is there an off switch for the cell manufacturing what does affect a poison for us? There's no off switch. Okay, so that could be an explanation then.

So if somebody's gotten a shot that caused a large number of their cells to be manufacturing this poison, then are they basically in a situation where they have to be continually on a protocol to get rid of these spike proteins because they can't shut it off. That's correct. So the theory is we've got to get ahead of the spike protein using this enzymatic process, nato-clanase, bromline, curcumin, McCuller protocol. And then we have hope that the body,

human body, gets rid of the genetic material through sweat. And I think that's one of the reasons why after the initial wave of cardiac arrests in the athletes that was due to acute myocarditis, if you notice, the athletes have done fine afterwards. because they sweat so much. Hopefully they've sweated this vaccine out of their body. In my observation of this, where I'm measuring antibodies

and I'm directly measuring the spike protein, the people who seem to clear the stuff out of the body are intentionally perspiring in large volumes. Okay. So this persistence, so if people are not getting rid of the spike protein, if they're not doing the sweating, we literally could have people that are vaccinated

five years ago manifesting with new injuries that are indeed vaccine injuries today. They're never going to be counted as vaccine injuries, but in effect, for example, are continually, it seems that cancer is increasing and increasing. That could be explained by a vaccine injury, even though they were vaccinated four or five years ago.

That's a correct analysis. And our U.S. FDA regulatory system actually has a very prescient regulatory piece on this for genetic products. And said for genetic products, they need five to 15 years of safety observation because of this exact analysis that you've just given. Five to 15 years. Yet public health Canada, the U.S. FDA, they haven't put 15 years of observation. on these vaccines, they told everybody to take it and just in a sense go with it. But you're right. I think we've got, you know, we're about five years into it now. I think we've got another 10 years of concern.

Okay. Another question I had is in Canada, when we had an earlier witness you watched, involved in a report that recommended that we stop vaccinating basically 18 and under with the COVID-19 vaccine, is it your understanding that that age group, you know, healthy children and teenagers are basically at zero risk from dying of the COVID vaccine? Dying of COVID illness.

I'm sorry, illness. I meant illness. I said vaccine. Thank you for correct. You know, at this point in time, I imagine the rate of natural immunity of children is probably near 100%. Obviously, newborns come every year and they are experiencing their first challenges from viruses. But except in extreme comorbidities like children with congenital heart and lung disease or cystic fibrosis,

there was no risk to children with the infection. And therefore, there was no medical necessity. There was no clinical indication. And it was all risk. It was all risk, like the risk that. Sean Hartman took. It was all risk and no benefit, and that equation still exists today. It is complete madness that countries like Canada and Brazil are still pushing vaccination in children, even down to six months. It's been abandoned in the United States. It's been

abandoned in Europe, in most countries. So what's unique about Canada, and Canada's children to persisting with genetic vaccination, dose after dose after dose. Everything I presented today is basically at about one or two or three doses. We have no idea what's going to happen when we get to six, seven, eight doses. Right, but just to follow up on your point, so for most countries, they no longer vaccinate children and youth. So Canada is an outlier in continuing to vaccinate children and youth, and healthy children and youth are in effect, you know, at a zero risk of COVID. So it wouldn't make sense even if other countries were still doing it.

But we're the outlier now because other countries have figured it out. That's correct. And on the record, I don't think these vaccines are safe for anyone. I think they should have been pulled from the market very quickly after the release. And I testified to that extent in 2021. I'm on record for it. I was the first doctor of public record to call for withdrawal the COVID-19 vaccines in the U.S. Senate. And they were a giant failure.

This has been a public health debacle. And the problem is we're so deep into it. And every country is so deep into it. I can tell you, our leader of our public health apparatus, Anthony Fauci, sought and obtained 10 years of clemency for crimes that are implicated in this. And he just pled the Fifth Amendment 111 times in front of the U.S. Senate. I sat in that very chair that he there, and I answered every single question from the senators for hours.

So at the very top of this, not only do we have this incredible public health and scientific misadventure or debacle, but we have corruption at the very highest levels. And none of your public health agency officials will come clean on this. None of them will. Thank you, Dr. Rukal for being here. I know my colleagues got a question, and I do as well, but Mr. Mottlinch for first. Thank you. And thank you very much, Dr. first of all, for your passion for truth. and for your research in this.

You basically answered my question that I was going to ask, and that is, why doesn't Canada remove the COVID vaccine off the shelf and just say, we're not doing it anymore? You started to answer a little bit, but it makes total sense that we just remove it for everyone. This is a stupendous observation. The COVID vaccine is on the market in over 140 countries. The only countries actually don't have the vaccine can't avoid. afford it. There's over 190 countries in the world. Not a single country has done a formal

safety review, a legitimate safety review. Not a single country has opened the vials to inspect for concentration of vaccine material or for impurities or contaminants. Not a single country. It's mind-blowing. What's going on in Canada now is going on in Japan, in Indonesia, and Russia. No one can explain this. It's a mind-blowing reality. We're six years into this. This pandemic should have been over within two years. Should have been like Spanish flu done. The vaccination has extended this to six years now as the virus keeps mutating. They just came out with XFG variants. That variance is already gone. Now we're on to new variants. And it's going to be another failed vaccine. Countries are. buying full stockpiles of these vaccines for their entire population. I told you in the United States is 8.9% of people taking it. 91% of the vials are dumped down the drain, yet the companies receive billions of dollars. Well, Pfizer and Moderna each received over a billion dollars for more vaccines to the United States. It's a mind-blowing reality on this whole vaccine

misadventure. There seems to be an ideology. It's almost like it's some type of false religion. It's a madness that people have. And it's divided families. It divides along party lines. People say they can't talk about this. I'll just say one thing. In the first presidential administration, President's administration, Trump's administration, there's 15 cabinet members. 15 cabinet members. One did not take the vaccine because it wasn't safe. You know who that was? Ben Carson. He's the only doctor in the cabinet. That should tell you something. Dr. McCallel, you talked about the test that most people are out of aware. From my understanding, the test is not really that expensive, or is it, you know, in terms of...

It's $69 cash. My understanding is LabCorp doesn't offer it in Canada. So I have my Canadian patients just drive over the border and they get it done in Buffalo or Detroit. They go online, LabCorp, Labs on demand, get a user ID and password, pay $69, show up at LabCorp, you're in the computer, pay them $69. You'll get your answer that night. My lady from Vancouver just came down, she texted me the answer. We've got it. So this is a baseline standard of care.

Canadians can drive their own standard of care. And I think these hearings, hopefully we'll get out to the vaccine injured and they'll start to do this to get an understanding of where they are in this process. In terms of spike proteins, you talked about high levels like 7,000, me and rot down to a 2,500, whatever, give us some context for that. You know, spike protein levels of 2,500 would be acceptable, normal in people than that. And, you know, what's the time? Remember, it's an antibody.

The antibody lags behind the spike protein by about six to nine months. So the antibody's kind of a trailing indicator. But in general, when the antibodies are below 5,000. units per ML, we can't find any spike protein in the blood anymore. It's gone. So if they go on the detox protocol and it may take a year or two, it's great to when the blood is cleared of this. I was one of the leading doctors in treating COVID patients face to face, so I had a lot of exposure through the pandemic. In 2023, my number was 2,300. And I had some symptoms. My ears are ringing. I had some long COVID symptoms. I went on the spike detox. It took about a year

and my number came down to about 800. And I've checked it twice now. And anything below 1,000, we can't find any signals that there's any spike protein or any harm in the human body. A normal value before the pandemic would be less than 0.8. So we shouldn't have any antibodies to this. But we're going to have some because of the ubiquity of the infection, what's called shedding, and the spike protein in people who have taken the vaccine or had the infection. So in terms of protocol, it's a test.

than getting on the protocol, which would also, as you said, mentioned sweating is also a part of that process. So he's going to exit the body. And for higher levels for those that are struggling, length of time, year, two years, like? At least two years. What I'd suggest is if people want to direct their own care, they can get an antibody level.

If they're below 1,000, I don't think there's any compelling evidence that the vaccine or the infection is causing harm at this point. If they're above 1,000, it's reasonable to go on spike detoxification, recheck the blood level in six or 12 months, and make sure it's going down. We'd like to see about a 20% drop in the antibody level as a proxy that the spike protein is getting out of the body. These infrared saunas are very inexpensive. People can set them up.

They're like little teepees in their house, and they can go in there and actually sweat. But I've done this. I've treated thousands of patients reliably. We're collating the data the best we can without funding to put this all together. but I'll say the converse. I haven't seen anyone get better if they don't get rid of the spike protein. They're just miserable forever.

Thank you. Before I turn it back over to Mr. Buckley, I want to thank you for taking the time to come all the way up here and give us a different perspective. That's why we're doing these hearings is to give people information and then let them decide what they think that should do with it. So, Mr. Buckley?

Yeah. The online audience, people watching didn't see that Dr. McCuller got a standing ovation. And Dr. McCull, I think that's because you've just been so tireless in totally speaking what the research shows. And you've made it so clear that you're willing to share your expertise with several people. My understanding is, you know, one of your Canadian patients. attended in the audience. And so it's just very well respected in the community. And I just wanted those online that didn't know, well, like, why did we stop and why was

this clapping? There was literally a standing ovation for you, which is well deserved. We were absolutely honored. I did want to just pursue one more area that nobody has touched on. And that's, you know, what some people call Calamari. And it's just you're an internist and you're an internist. a cardiologist and there's been report after report after report that funeral homes, when they're basically preparing bodies, are finding these pieces that they describe as

calamari within patients. Can you just share with us about that briefly? The spike protein is found in blood clots. The spike protein can stimulate blood clot formation even in the absence of platelets. We've never seen a protein that is this pro-coagulant. The spike protein is amyloidgenic, meaning it can fold. And I showed you the one side where it's folding. And when proteins fold, they become rubbery. That's called amyloid. There's about three dozen proteins that can do this in the human body or with various

disease processes. But the spike protein is amyloidgenic. And so when large amounts of spike protein are in blood clots, they fold. They attract even more blood clot formation, and the blood clot is physically rubbery. Now, in a report by Tom Havilland, about 70% of morticians have seen this, and there's finding large blood clots in the deceased in about 23% of the deceased, vaccinated and unvaccinated. This is very important. That means the spike protein is in us, and probably all of us are somewhat prone to blood clotting. Normally, blood liquefies that death, and it's easily when the vessels are cannulated, the blood's drained out, and then the body is embalmed. but they're actually having to pull out these large blood clots that's been described as Kalamari. But I've had a patient who's not here today, but he's Canadian, and he's a semi-pro hockey player. He had a massive blood clot in his leg after taking the vaccine.

A shot to his lungs, ruined his hockey career, and he was taking blood thinners going nowhere because the blood clot was not resolving. I put him on the detox protocol hard. at high doses. It took two years. No surgery needed. Finally, and we did serial ultrasounds, the blood clots are all finally gone, gone, and I was able to take them off the blood thinners and clear him to return to pro-hockey. So it can be done. My point is for the vaccine injured. If you've been sick and had a problem for two or three years, it's going to take two or three years of treatment for recovery, to full recovery. He's going to be back being a hockey superstar. Right. Now this is this is important and it's actually one of the reasons why we wanted you on the final day is so that people can understand that actually there's there are solutions.

They just haven't been told about them. Right. And they've been they've been left to believe that they're on their own and they've left to believe that nobody will help them. But that's that's hopefully that's going to change because there are protocols that help. They're not quick. but there's science there to explain what's going on and then some clear solutions. So are there many doctors like yourself that understand these things? I know that there are more than you, but it seems to me they're very few in number. There's still very few in number that the naturopathic, holistic, integrative branch of medicine, which is growing, has embraced this. But I think there are too many injured.

The population is too big. and I concur with your sentiments, people have to take matters into their own hands. They had to with acute COVID-19 infection. They should with vaccine injuries. Most of what I reviewed today are natural products. You can get at a natural food store. Can get it on Amazon. Certainly can follow me and in McCullough Foundation.

All the work I've done, I've outlined these protocols. We have peer-reviewed papers to support everything we're doing. We're collecting more data. I think everybody should honestly take action into their own hands. One of the things we noticed that I noticed in these testimonies was a dependence. So the vaccine injured said, well, I'm dependent on the doctor and the doctor didn't do anything to me. I'm dependent on the government for something. I think here's a paradigm shift.

People have to take matters into their own hands. They have to be dependent on themselves. If they have to cross the border for a blood test, do it. if they have to start working with natural products, they're going to fundamentally deal with this problem. Do it. And then hopefully, agencies will come along and there'll be a change of view on this.

We'll start to see bona fide research and get people out of this problem. But certainly taking more vaccines has to stop because our children right now don't stand a chance. If we're knee-deep into this, I can't imagine how much spike protein is in these children right now. Probably they have very good libraries of antibodies, and they're neutralizing all this stuff.

But sooner or later, the kids are, the antibodies fatigue from neutralizing IGG 1 and 2 to useless IGG4, that's going to allow the spike protein to roam free and start to damage these kids maybe in years to come. I'm greatly concerned that Canada is still vaccinating children has to stop. And then final, I thought I had a final question, but you've kind of created another question with it is. So I found it a little alarming that you're seeing. you're finding large amounts of spike protein in both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Now, why would there today be spike protein in the unvaccinated? Because they should have cleared that virus years ago.

When the virus in the unvaccinated person, when it docks with the H2 receptor, part of the spike protein is sacrificed, the S2 segment. The S1 segment gets in the body, and the body knows it's foreign, so it tries to wall it off in exosomes or in actually in a certain blood cell, CD-16 monocyte, and Bruce Patterson and N-Cell-D-X has shown this. The human body has a hard time

getting rid of this spike protein. So it's possible that someone could have had COVID two or three times. Some people are very prone to this infection and they could have actually been loaded through serial infections over time. There is a bona fide, there's just a paper and jam on this.

There are as a bona fide reservoir. There are some people where the virus sets up shop and continues to replicate in the human body for months so they can get super loaded with this protein. So there is a real long COVID syndrome in the unvaccinated, for sure. But if we were to quantitate it, compared to the natural infection, the vaccine is 10 to maybe a thousandfold more spike protein. It's way more in the vaccinated. Thank you. Dr. McCona, it's just been an honor having you checked the ellison inquiry so our next quickness is diane spalding dan will you take the bible in your right hand please diane spalding do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

so happy god i do then i want to introduce you to the inquiry you're 61 now which means you were 56 at the time of these events. And you've got two children. You now have to live with one of your sons, your oldest son. I do live with my eldest son at the moment, yes. You were a lab technician in health care. You were very healthy. You did biking, hiking, going for walks.

You like to travel. You love to spend time with the grandkids. Good health. Fairly good health, yeah. And then on April 23rd, 2021, you took your first and only COVID vaccine, which was Astrosanica. That's correct. Can you share with us what happened? Yeah, so I decided I would, you know, do the right thing and, you know, get my shot.

So I headed off to the Rexell pharmacy inside Mount Sinai Hospital. and I decided to take the Astorzeneca. That was the one that was available at the rollout at that time for my age category. So I actually was a little bit nervous because I had actually heard on the news about the vaccine-induced thrombosopinia that was happening. But when I got to the pharmacy and I talked to the pharmacist,

she said when I mentioned it, she said, no, that's extremely, extremely rare. No worries. it's safe and effective. You have no issue. You have nothing to worry about. So, yeah. So that's what I did.

I took it. So. And what happened? So the next day, I woke up and I was pretty sick. Just, you know, like the flu. You know, I had a fever, chills, body aches, pains, just like you would with the flu.

And that lasted for about three days. It wasn't bad for about three days. But on the fifth day, I developed a bleed on my lower arm. And that was alarming, especially after hearing about the thrombocepenia. I was like, uh-oh. So I thought, oh boy, I said, okay, this isn't normal.

I better, you know, I'll go to emerge. I'll get my blood work done. I'll see what my platelet count is because, you know, my platelet count actually has always been a little bit elevated. No reason, just always a little bit elevated. So it always had around 5 to 600, okay? So when I got there and I told them about it and they looked at it and they did blood work. And it came back that my platelet count was just around four.

So, and I had my blood work done about a month before that. And my platelet count was at 600. And now it was at 400. Now, 400 is actually within normal range. So no red flags, no alarms went off. But I said to them, look at, I normally have high platelets, you know, or elevated platelets. So now they're being pulled down by 200. So that would make sense that I have this bleed on my lower arm.

But isn't 400 still, like if it's in the normal range? Well, I mean, it's within normal range. But for me, I don't know because I naturally have elevated platelet counts. So it was definitely pulled down. It definitely in two weeks or whatever it was or three weeks that I had my last, you know, budwork done by the doctor. that was just a routine checkup but it got pulled down by 200

I don't know if that's normal but you know seeing the bleed made me you know a little bit you know apprehensive like it made me you know worry a little bit that oh no you know maybe my

my platelet count is you know dropping so anyway they did bleed blood work I said to them I said I think oh and I had my arm was, I had a really bad rash on my arm. It was, I think you, it's yours, but my arm was really swollen and red and, and anyway, they just said, oh, you've definitely had a really good reaction to the vaccine, a good reaction, they called it. And I said, well, I said, you know, I don't

really feel, you know, I mean, I've got this lower, I've got this bleed on my arm, like, do you want to give me some like intravenous immunoglobin or something to tamper down the response? And they looked at me like I had four heads. Like they just looked at me like, like, what are you talking about? What's this IVIG you're talking about? No idea. And anyway, they said, well, you know, nothing we can do. Sorry about your luck.

Sent me home. Now my understanding is you're also developing in your hands and legs. Oh, yeah. So it was about a week after that, I started getting bruising. And the bruising was like all over my body in areas you don't expect to get bruising. And it was just everywhere. I started getting bleeding ducts under my skin called Patiki, more bleeding spots. I started getting pins and needles in my hands and in my feet.

And that feeling of pins and needles was going. going up my arms and up my legs. I didn't know what the heck was going on. I just kept. Can I just lay you down on that? Let's see on your arms, like how far is this going up? The pins and needles? Yeah.

It was going up to about my elbow and then up to my knees. And when you see pins and needles, like most of us have like laid on an arm or something. Exactly. You fall asleep on your arm and you wake up and you're taking it out. Like it's exactly like that. Okay. Exactly. Which is really uncomfortable.

It's very uncomfortable. And I just kept rubbing my arms and my legs. And I say to my husband, want it me go out for a walk and maybe, you know. But yeah, no, it continued. Yeah. So after that, my vision actually started getting blurry when we were going out for walks. I couldn't see people's faces.

They were completely, couldn't see. My vision was very, very blurry. So let me just slow you there down again. So you're out for a walk and like people are walking by and we, you know, intuitively look at their faces. I think we subconsciously do an assessment of them. It's just, it's a blurry. Blurry. So would you be able to recognize people you knew walking by?

No, no. And I kept saying to my husband, is it just me or do you see people's faces? I can't see people's faces, you know? It was very strange. I understand that you were also starting to get vibrations in your chest. Yeah. Yeah. So then that started.

It felt like a cell phone going off in my chest. I started getting tremors in my right hand and in my legs. Before we go there, I just, I want to show some pictures. about your skin. Oh, yes. Before we leave. David, can you pull up? Yeah, so. So can you walk us through these?

Maybe, you know, from... The first picture is a bleed. That's the bleed that was under my, on my lower arm when I went to, when I went to emerge the first time. The second picture, I had all these splinter hemorrhogens under my nails. That was all the bruising. And that was my arm. You can see the, the reaction on my knees.

my arm and then just more bruising and bleeding. Okay. David, do you want to go to the next one? Tell us to the quiz. Thought about that. Yeah, my skin was peeling. Just peel. It would just peel. The skin we just peel off. So you're not picking that out. No, no, it would just peel. Yeah, my skin would just peel off. Okay, in the next photograph?

Yeah, I don't know what that was. It was on the back of my legs. It was actually purple. So, yeah. So it was more darker than the photograph. Yeah, it looked really purple, actually. It was very purple. Okay.

So I just wanted us to see those before we moved on to the tremors. So do you want to tell us about the tremors? Tell us about the tremors. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, yeah. So I had, oh, yeah, and I had light and noise sensitivity that started. And I just, I had to, like, close the blinds.

I couldn't handle any light at all. Any bit of noise drove me crazy. I had to be in complete darkness and no sound at all. So I had that. And then, yeah, so the tremor started in my right hand. and in my lower legs and in my head. And that was very alarming to me. I was like, what the heck is going on?

Like, it's my Parkinson's now. So it was very scary. So again, let's just slow these down. So your hands, like... My one hand, the one that the injection went in. It would just shake? Yeah, it would, yeah, it would just, it was, yeah. And you were not able to stop shaking?

Not really. I mean. How long? I mean, if you held your hand in your other hand, you know, but you could still feel it on the inside. And how long would this last for? Just a few minutes. Just a few minutes. My head would bob.

So your head when it would shake? My head would bob. Like, yeah, it would be bobbing. And how long would that last when it would stop? started. I don't actually remember, you know, a few minutes, a few minutes at a time, probably. Yeah. What do you think is going on at this point? And how are you reacting? I think just how you're Oh, I was terrified. I mean, the extreme fatigue started setting in and I actually spent three months in bad. I could not get out of bed. I'd fall asleep when I'd wake up in the morning and I'd say to my

husband. I didn't sleep. Like, I didn't sleep. And, and, um, I had this, I had this, um, I had this rumble feeling when I was sitting down the one day on the couch. Um, it felt like an earthquake in my head. Like, it literally felt like an earthquake in my head. And right after that, I had a drugged feeling. Like, somebody had drugged me. And that has never, that has never gone away, the drug feeling. I've had it ever since. Nothing is clear in my head. It's just like something stuffed inside my head and I'm drugged.

So you even have that feeling now? I do. So this is a permanent thing where you kind of feel like there's cotton or something stuck in your head and you're drugged. Yeah. I'm just, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so I ended up spending the summer, I guess. Most of the summer I spent, I spent in bad.

But during this time, I decided, because I went back, actually, I went back to the hospital and the tremor started. That's when, when I had that earthquake feeling in my head, I actually went back to Mount Sinai, and I said, you know, like, this is getting worse. You know, I've got these pins and needles now and all these other symptoms, you know. It's definitely from the vaccine, you know, and they actually stuck me in this makeshift area, and it had other vaccine injured people in it. So when I got there, I'm like, are you guys vaccine injured?

Like, why are they shoving us in this, behind this curtain, in this room? And nobody was saying anything, but I knew. But anyway, they did a CT scan and it came back inconclusive. There was nothing. they couldn't see anything. And they said, we think you have anxiety, and we'd like to send you for a site consult. Right.

Like those pictures to me showed real anxiety, especially your hands peeling. So I'm being facetious completely. I understand. That's what's so curious is you're showing physical symptoms. And they're suggesting that it's anxiety. How did that make you feel? Angry?

I had a lot of emotions. I mean, it's really hard to go through all these symptoms and not know what is going on. You don't have a diagnosis. You can't move forward. You don't know what's happening to you. And there is nobody that believes

that you've got something wrong with you. It's anxiety. You need to see a psychiatrist. Because I actually believed it. I actually thought, oh, hey, I guess. So, yeah, I've never had, I've never had, like, anxiety like this in my life. Of course you're anxious. It wouldn't be anxious.

You're going to the hospital with tremors and internal vibrations and all these other symptoms and what? We're supposed to be happy about it? Like, of course we're going to be anxious. Of course we're going to be scared. So yeah, okay, sure. I was anxious. But, you know, I also needed a site consult.

It's just interesting because most of us, some of us haven't gone through a serious health journey. But I think those that have and those that can imagine it, we kind of expect that our caregivers are going to be very attentive, very sympathetic because that's part of the healing and encouragement process and that we would be confident that they're trying to figure out what's going on and then treating us to the best of their ability. But you've been watching these proceedings and you're sharing the same thing is that that's not happening at all. It's almost like they just want you to go away because they can't touch you. And in your case, you got a letter from the Toronto, Toronto Health that I found shocking because You've got physical harm.

You are basically reporting being disabled. And you get a letter from Toronto Public Health, which tells you to get the second shot. David, can you pull that up? I don't know if we're going to be able to read it or not on this small screen. Yes, we can. So, yeah, so this is just the letter and the recommendations. And this is from Sukana Ballot Challenger.

That was my family doctor at the time. Right. So the recommendations, so the TPAH is Toronto Public Health, right? Yeah. So TPH recommends this client receives a second dose of an MRNA COVID-19 vaccine as soon as possible, if not already done, especially in the context of the circulating delta virus. So you've basically become disabled. You've got skin peeling off.

You're bruised all over the place. It says right there, brain fog tremors, breathing, they're ending. It lists your... It lists my... It lists all of my pins and needles. The, I don't know, why it says arthritis, or I don't know, but whatever that is, I don't know.

Yeah, so the paragraph before... ...revement, brain fog, tremors, and bruising. They're saying, okay, she is experiencing severe unusual events and listing them, and then the recommendation is, please step up and get another one. Because you're not dead yet. And we're seeing a pattern here. I mean, another of the witnesses today got a letter in PEI from the public health office.

And I remember, you know, Drew yesterday, same thing. Remember, she's basically disabled. And three specialists got involved without her even asking if she should take her second shot. And Alberta Public Health started calling her to get her second shot. Like they were calling me too. Yeah, they were, yeah, they were calling me too to get, I thought they had. and just like, yeah, that's not happening. But actually, my family doctor was,

she was pretty good in the beginning. She sent me to a neurologist, internal medicine. Yeah, I went to so many specialists, rheumatologists. I think I went to all of them. Half of them just said, why are you here? Why did your doctor send me? The neurologist actually was very kind and said, you know, because I actually joined the can co.

long COVID clinic study and they did all kinds of blood work and they actually ended up diagnosing me with FND, which is a joke. It's just like saying you have anxiety as far as I'm concerned. But, you know, so when I got to the neurologist, he said, yeah, that you do not have FND, you indeed have essential tremors. And he said, I'm going to tell you right now, you're not the first person to come through my door with side effects from the vaccine. And he said, I am so sorry this happened to you, but we don't know what to do. And that, that, this is Mount Sinai Hospital also apologized for you to you for 20 months later, 20 months after. For not acknowledging vaccine injury in your, yeah, 20 months later, I got a call from Mount Sinai. It was in the evening. And he said he was the

head of the emergency department, the physician of the head of the, I can't remember what he said exactly, but I think that's what he said. And he called to apologize. And then my last thing is, you also have the experience of, because you started it, is basically starting a support group. Right. So you just tell us about that, because I think there's interest in the fact that vaccine injured in Canada have to ban together and support themselves. Yeah. So I guess I was in vote. It was probably in 2022 that I created actually.

I created a Canadian Facebook support group. There were other ones before me. And I actually, you know, being rejected by the health care system, I was desperate to figure out what was wrong with me, and I went on social media, and I actually found so many injured just like me, same symptoms. A lot of us took the, in Canada anyway, took the Asterzeneca in April of 2021, and the lot numbers were the same, and we all have the same symptoms. that AstraZeneca vaccine was pulled a week later from the market. So there's an elephant in the room there. But anyway, so I found a lot of injured people, just like me.

We became a family, and we spoke every day to each other, and we confided eating in each other, and we cried, and we, you know, just tried to find, you know, treatments. You know, we were doing, we had drawers and drawers full of every natural supplement you can think of when Dr. McCullough was talking about broling and nato and we had all that, you know, turmeric. We had drawers of this stuff. The problem was, is we didn't know how much to take. when we were taking it we didn't know how long to take it for we had nobody

following up and doing blood work for us so we'd start taking all these health you know all these supplements and everything and now what you know so half the time we would start taking them and then we just throw them back in the drawer I do have to say that once I found silent survivors that's that's that's one of the Canadian groups. And Dallas, she's the one that heads it. And she told me about a doctor. Or she gave me information on where I could find this doctor in Toronto.

And I reached out to him. And he got me on Ivermettin. And I believe he saved my life. I believe he saved my life because I could not get out of bad. my tremors were really bad and once I got on that Iverminton my tremors went away most of my symptoms

started to go away after I took the Ivermettin unfortunately he couldn't follow up with me anymore because then the college was investigating him so yeah so by the time I started started to feel better. I mean, other than this fog in my head,

and I have to constantly pace myself. Like, tomorrow I am going to be in bed after this. Yeah, because I still get the fatigue. I can't go to a jaw. I can't do anything on my feet for more than four hours, and then that's it for me. And then I'm on the couch, you know? Like, I want to be able to play with my grandkids.

You know, and my father, you know, I really wanted to be able to spend a lot of time with my dad. And so in the fall, around Christmas, well, just before Christmas, I was just starting to feel a little bit better. And, you know, to be able to drive out and see my dad. Well, not me drive, but I wasn't driving at that time. but going to see my dad. And he started just not feeling very good. He said, he said to me, I've got this whole backache. And that was probably in December, in January, you went to the hospital,

and you were full of cancer and died February. I'm sorry to hear that about your dad. So we have to move on to the next witness now, just time-wise. Thank you so much for coming. know that you've been in touch with me and you were excited about coming and we're excited to have you. And I know you've voiced what difference is this going to make or what's going to happen. None of us know that. None of us know.

But I think we all know we've been changed by hearing stories like yours. And I also want to thank you for coming. Thank you. I just wanted to say one more little thing that, you know, like just for all the medical establishment, you know, try to have some of compassion. Compassion is, you know, the backbone. You know, you can't acknowledge suffering. And it says we do have to let you go or we have to tell somebody else not to testify. Sean. Okay, thank you, Dan. Thank you. So, our next witness is Lisa Watson. And Lisa, will you take the Bible in your fan, please?

Lisa Watson, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth soft of God? Absolutely. And before I introduce you to the inquiry, I'll just let the inquiry know that this witness, her doctors have conclusively found that it's vaccine injury, including even the vaccine injury support program, agrees that she's vaccine injured. Lisa, you are 60, which means you were 55 at the time of what we're going to speak about. You've got three adult children. You worked for the Canada Revenue Agency, and nobody's going to hold that against. They're just kidding.

But you were in rebates, and you had just purchased an acreage. You did. And you were just setting up a hobby farm. You guys were in the process of getting chickens. This is a high work thing, getting an acreage and setting up a hobby farm. Your health was good. Yes. You worked.

You walked. You'd walk about three to six kilometers, three times a week. Yes. You cooked with a family. You played darts, horseshoes, quadded, fished. You loved going to the beach and collecting what is sea glass. And even though you've tried to explain that to me, I still don't understand what it is. But that changed.

Yes, it did. On June 5th, 2021, you took your first and only vaccine of Pfizer vaccine. Can you share with us what happened? Sure. Well, we as a family decided we were not going to get the vaccines. They were too new, and we had other vaccines, but this one, we didn't. want to do. So, but at that time, we still had our youngest daughter in high school. And I wasn't able, wouldn't be able to go back to work. If I didn't do it, my husband worked traveling back and

forth to the states and back. So for mostly for my daughter's sake, I decided to, to do this with her. And so we went on June 5th and walked in and she said, Mom, she said, I have a bad feeling about this. I said, I could possibly go wrong. This was just a needle, right? We're fine. We went in, we got our shots.

Then they handed us a little piece of paper and said, if you have any issues, you may have, you know, flu-like symptoms, if anything gets too serious, gall. We came home, my husband and I went quodding for the day, felt fine, I didn't have a sore arm, there was nothing. Twelve days later, I had an appointment in Somerside, so we went in, and we were sitting there a little early, so my daughter was with me. and she, we were just sitting in the truck and I was talking to my husband on the phone and I felt my left arm go weak,

noticeably weak. And I said to him, he said, well, just sit, maybe it'll pass. And I sat and it wasn't passing. And I said, I think I'm having a stroke. So I could head of the truck and walked around and let my daughter drive me to the hospital, which was just a couple minutes away. And we went in and they triaged me and they brought me right in thinking I might have been having heart attack, a stroke, something. and so I stayed there. They did blood work.

They hooked me up to the machines. They said, I'm sorry, Mrs. Watson, but it's really busy right now. Could you just go sit back out in the waiting room? And it was very busy. So I sat there and it was, oh, maybe two minutes passed. And this tightening around the middle came across me. that like somebody was tightening a belt. So she got up.

She went, I got help. And she said, I think my mother's have a heart attack. Can you please help her? So I went in and they took me right down to get a CT scan. And I came back up and I was sitting up. I believe and I was dry

and I took a glass of, or another glass of bottle of water, and I went and I put it in my hand to open it. And when I put it in my hand, it fell. And I lost use of my hand. And they said, oh, my gosh, she's having a stroke, even though my facial, everything was fine. within probably a minute my left leg started spasming

not spasming Charlie horsing it was just it was violent and it would last oh maybe a minute and a half to two minutes and then it would stop and when that happened the nurse I remember She was like, that's not a stroke. We need.

And the doctor came in. I believe there was a lot of people around me. But they didn't have an MRI machine in Somerside. So they had to take them by ambulance to Charlottetown because they knew it wasn't a stroke then. They said, this isn't a stroke. We don't know what it is. So down we went. And they put me and took me in for an MRI.

and I don't have any timelines because I was, it's all blur. And it was then too. But when I came back to a room, my daughter was there. My brother came in, my husband was away. And my sister-in-law, and the neurologist finally came in. And he came in, he said, well, he said, you know, it's not a stroke. And we were quite, I was relieved and he said, well, you know, too relieved. He said it's transverse myelitis.

And we really don't know what we're dealing with because we don't see it a whole lot. So they put me on a couple different, I have, I'm talking about brain fog. Oh, you don't have to agree. I know. my medications, but they did put me on basically muscle relaxers to help with that for the spasms, which. But you still have the spasms to the day. Absolutely. And you also still have that tightening around your mid-side.

Yes, I do. I have, well, I was just on the one medication in the hospital, the, whatever it is, one little pill, and it wasn't enough. So after I came home, and then I went to see the neurologist, he told him that it wasn't enough. He gave me another gabapentin. And then basically you became a bit of a paradox, didn't you? Because you had to your left side, you lost movement. Well, from the time, I remember, the one thing I do remember when I got that, when I got to the hospital, before I left Somerside, I needed to use the washroom,

and I was able to get up and use the washroom. When I got to Charlottetown, which is an hour and a half, roughly, like, you know, and I had to use the washroom again. I couldn't walk. I lost all mobility in my legs. I couldn't walk at all.

And I had to learn that all again, and then we realized when I was there in physio I was in the hospital for 10 weeks in Charlottetown and that I have all feeling on the left side

of my body and on the right side of my body I have no sensations I hot or cold pain I can feel if somebody pushes on it and that That was the paradox.

So you were paralyzed on the left side, but you could feel everything. Oh, yeah. You could feel everything. You could move the right side, but you couldn't feel anything. Which was really unnerving because that was part of the problem with me learning to walk because I couldn't feel. Yeah, well, let's show up. David, do you want to pull up? We have the video.

And this is you learning to walk. I don't think anybody who's, even my family has seen this. I've never shared it, but you go right ahead. I gave it to you. go, it'll be a learning journey for your husband here. So, David, yeah, pull up that video for us. It's 49. She's witness 49.

Oh, I'm sorry, it's 50. We're at Lisa Watson. So while David's doing that, let's talk about kind of where you are today. Well, if you've seen me walk around the halls, I do use a walker. I came home in a wheelchair, but I quickly got rid of that and use the walker around the house. So you can't walk without a walker? No. If I hang on to walls or if I hang on to, you know, I tried to use a cane, but it's just too unstable for me.

because I also have now dropped foot. That was when these spasms were happening, they would straighten my foot out, and I lost all movement in my left foot. I think we're ready for that. They do we know. After a couple weeks of me in physio. You got out if I didn't go, chair?

Yeah. So this is a video of you basically learning to walk with them. Like I said, that was about two weeks after. I had a brace on to hold my foot up. And the one I got after, well, even that one I broke my ankle years ago, years ago, so I have pins and plates. So it's very uncomfortable to wear that. It hurts because I have all feeling in that side of my body. Right. And so, I mean, this is, this is really you becoming completely disabled and needing to be hospitalized. Yes. And the chief medical officer,

Dr. Heather Morrison, wanted you to get a second shot? Absolutely. My family doctor was amazing. And he sent off an exemption. A request for an exemption. Because you had to apply to the chief medical office. Yes. And she refused that.

saying that, I forget the wording right now, but basically she doesn't have to get the Pfizer vaccine, but we strongly recommend her have, and for him to discuss with me the benefits of getting the AstraZeneca one. And the funny thing was, that was one for blood clots that they were pulling and I have a fib and so it certainly didn't make sense right because of contraindicated yes so what what has been the most difficult part of this not being able to be who I I was not looking at myself and not seeing me as far as I liked to entertain. I always was the one that would cook the big dinners and have the...

But even more than that, I have five granddaughters that are all fairly young, and not one of them will remember who I was before this vaccine. They do not know who I am or who I was. And I try not to be that person that lets it defy who I am. I will not allow this to defy who I. But sometimes it's hard. Thank God I have a husband that's as supportive as he is. And the kids have been amazing.

I guess I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed in we wanted this little hobby farm. And the day, a couple days before I had bought my first shipment of little baby chickens came in. And I didn't get to raise them. You know, I didn't get to go collect the barn or the eggs or the, And everything else just died with it. I guess it just, it didn't break my spirit. My spirit will not be broken.

But it took, it did take something from me. Took something from my husband. It took, you know, our life is not how we envisioned. He had to stop his work doing what he did to be home closer. My daughter had to move back. and she lived in Alberta, so it changed all of our lives drastically. And it's disappointing. Lisa, thank you so much.

That was going to be my question in terms. I know you've got lots of support at home. I do. And I was going to ask you how that made you feel about the future. And you just sort of touched on it. You just were explaining that some of the things had hoped and aspired for as change as a result of that. Did you want to add anything else with that?

I don't think so. I do want to thank you for validating us, allowing us here. So I didn't know there was so many. You know, when this first happened, I knew there was the odd one. And you just feel that you're a one-off, took one for. for the team. That's what I would tell people. And yeah, it's a lot. And this has been very helpful. Thank you. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you very much. So our next witness is Robert Danesiac. Robert, will you take the Bible in your right hand? And did I pronounce your last

name properly? Daneschak. Dennis Chuck? Or Danesak. Robert Denisuk, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. I just want to introduce you

to the inquiry. You're 56 years of age. You have a pre-existing mental illness. You have what's called schizoaffective disorder bipolar, which means that you can have both schizophrenic symptoms or bipolar symptoms or both at the same time. That's correct.

And prior to what we're about to talk about, you were working half-time at what's called Erika Clubhouse. That's correct. And that you're working around 18 to 20. for hours a week and that's a place where people with mental illness and go and work, right? Yeah, it's also the hangout kind of place. Yeah, and you, your, your work was, um, janitorial work was what? That's correct.

Right. And then, but you, you have, you had some diabetes, but you were in good health. Yeah, I was working around two weeks and then all of a sudden I was falling for no reason. Well, we'll get, we'll get into that in a second. So you get vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine. And then now what you're talking about is about two weeks later, right? Yeah, I was working. And next thing I know I was falling, and I was supposed to work that day.

And I had to get put on the chair. And they called for my mom to pick me up. And I had two people hold on to me to get to the car. So you're at work at that time, right? I didn't work because I was falling on the floor. Right, but I mean, but you're at the house. And so are you just, are you walking, are you standing? When is it that you, when you first fall?

I was just walking and I just, my feet would just give out. Like, it was just, I would be falling to the floor with no understanding why. Okay. and then so you're taken to the hospital. Do you go with your mom or do you go in an ambulance? Well, actually, the first thing we did was we took me to my apartment. I was on the recliner couch, but I spent the night. The next day I was paralyzed and I couldn't get off the couch.

and I had to call my mom to come, and then we called the ambulance, and they had to put me on a stretcher to the hospital. Right. So you fall asleep in the, it's a reclining chair, right? Like a lazy boy type thing? Yeah, it's the only thing I could get on to at the time. Right. So you fall asleep and you sleep the night, but in the morning,

you basically paralyzed you, you can't with your legs, right? Yeah, I couldn't move my right leg more than three inches than my last six inches, and I'll end up in an emergency at Colones Valley Regional Hospital. I was just going to slow you down again. So how are you reacting to that inside? Like, are you scared? Are you? I didn't know what to think.

Like, it was like all of a sudden. And like, no one never told me anything about the dangers of the vaccine. And I didn't understand why it was what was going on at all. And it was actually no one knew at the time. And I went to the emergency and the, The emergency doctor had the phone Victoria to the neurologist, and they diagnosed me with Gillian Barry syndrome. And I was in the hospital for a while, and then they were trying to get a bed at Royal Jubilee Hospital in Victoria, first bed. I have and I remember the ambulance ride it was no shocks.

Oh really? Yeah, so I felt like to be bump on the light of the story. And I, they were, you had like a safety pin and they had like a siloscope and they were doing a safety pin and they were doing a safety pin and they were doing a, I'm not sure what they were doing, but they were trying to get, um, um, um, see, with movement, they were telling me to move my legs. I couldn't move them anymore. And I just back up. So you're, you're taken from Comox to Victoria.

Yeah, that's about three-hour drive. Right. And you actually ended up, you were in about three different hospitals, but you spent about six and a half months. The hospital. In the hospital. And what type of an experience was that, all of a sudden having to basically live in a hospital? Well, in that time period, I had to relearn how to stand up.

I had to use the wheelchair. And then from the wheelchair when I went to an animal and physiotherapy, I had to learn how they used the locker and it was it was it enhanced my prayer life I could tell you that like because you know I just I went in that time period I went from 190 pounds I had to have to I have to I had to I I was weak and I had to gain weight. And I had friends, family, and preachers come down there. And basically everybody thought I was going to be dead. And it's, you know, it just was the grace of God that I'm not, you know. and it's just, yeah, I had a personal trainer that giving up was not an answer,

and the people in the hospital gave up on me, but she wouldn't. She pushed, yeah. What do you mean the people in the hospital? gave up on you. Yeah, in Central Hospital, they said that I didn't belong to go there, but Paula wouldn't take that as an answer.

She said, he's going. And she she, she, she, kept you going, even when it was tough times to go into, Like, you know, when it was tough road to get back on your feet,

she wouldn't take no as an answer. And she kept to go. And she sort of was like a sergeant major. Right. Can you tell us about how tough it was? It was It was like they had They were rebuilding the hospital at the time

And they had a bunch of things in the hallway And there were people in wheelchair whizzing by And I felt unstable on my feet On the walker And it was I was afraid of Like it was It was an easy road

When people were thinking that you were going to die, were you afraid? No. No, I had faith in Jesus. I, you know, I just, I've been through a lot in different times, like near-depth experiences. He is always there. He is always there. So you had to first learn to be able to stand. And what was the name of this lady that wouldn't give up on you again?

Paula. Paula. I'm not sure the last name. Yeah, but Paula, you were going to stand. She wasn't going to take no for an answer, right? No. And then you were going to get in that wheelchair. Yeah.

And then you were going to learn to use the walker. And that took six and a half months. Yeah. And it's... it went yeah I just I lost a ton of weight

then I gained it back gradually in that time period now you've done really well since then yeah so because you you're

walking a bit on your own like you have days where you have to use a walker but you have days where you're okay without a walker yeah So sometimes you fall and you need to go back to hospital, but you're doing better, right? Yeah, I think I've been between four and six months without going back to the hospital. And you are back at work a little bit now, right? Yeah, I was starting to kind of wobble on my leg, so I took a little time off,

but I'm hoping to get back, saving. Yeah. And you can't work as much, but you're working a couple hours a week in it. Yeah. And you need a bar on the wall now for showering. Yeah. And you, you know, you couldn't crawl in or out of a bathtub. But the real issue for you is getting dressed, like doing things like putting socks on, right?

Yeah. I have a carerade that come in the morning and at night give me pills because sometimes they shake. and yeah so I just I just but I don't know sometimes

like there was times I think well the last two years I've been working at the Salvation Army at the cattle when cattle season is on right in the Christmas season

when it's kettle time you do the kettles I sit on the walker and ring the bell Right. Now, you're not able to put socks on, right? That's the big challenge. Yeah, it is. Well, I could if I put my foot in the chair and hopefully not fall in one with the balance. Right.

With the balance, but I don't usually push it too far, but I did do it when I first came and wanted breakfast. Right. And that's why you have a carry come in. It's largely to get you dressed. Yeah. Okay. But now, when you were in the hospital, so you can't walk, you're hospitalized without telling you, they gave you a second shot, right? Yeah.

Well, they didn't tell me what the dangers were, you know? They just said, you know, they didn't really tell me any of the dangers with the vaccine until a friend of mine told me all the deaths and everything that happened with. They said, don't get another one. Yeah, so you didn't want one, but they gave it to you without telling them. Yeah, I didn't know what the dangers were when I had the second one. Robert, what's been the most difficult part of this whole experience? See, the second year, I made it to Christmas, and my dad passed away a month later.

And just after that, I got the COVID-19 virus, and I lost 28 pounds in 10 days. and the vaccine didn't help anything about that. And my dad was there. I was a little bit of fall through that. He drove to the Nilemo when he had lung cancer. And everyone was combined. My parents were there. Robert, you wanted to come and testify here.

Why was that important to you? It's just to let people know that the vaccine is not safe. And I feel that there should be compensation for the damages done with the evil drug. I want to thank you for coming. I appreciate hearing your story and you're talking about, was it your trainer that said don't give up?

Was that who said you giving up? Giving up was not an option? Was that an answer? I think that's a great message that we all need to hear. And like I said, I really appreciate you taking the time to be here. And Robert, I also know you've had a long journey.

You had to come from Comox, British Columbia to be here. And we're really thankful you came. So our next witness is Jasmine, Jasmine, come out. I'm having a day with names. Jasmine, do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Or do you want to swear on the Bible? Okay. So take the Bible in your right hand.

Jasmine Kamau, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? So help you God. Yes, I do. Now, you're 22 now, and you live in St. John. Yeah. But before the vaccine, you were 16. You were in high school. Yeah, I was in high school.

And you had no health problems. No, I was just a little bit overweight, but I was very active. I love going outside. I was always hanging out with making plans with my friends, spending time with my family, me and my stepdad. We love doing adventures. We like to try out new things. He was my hiking buddy.

And you would hike and kayak and you were into soccer and volleyball and things like that. I was into volleyball, but I couldn't play much during the COVID pandemic because of the lockdowns. But I loved playing soccer and volleyball on my own time. I love kayaking. One of my favorite thing to do is very peaceful being on the water. I was very, I would say it was very outgoing. Now, on June 17, 2021, you have your first shot. Yep.

And then on September 20, and nothing really happened after your first shot. Just a little sore arm, but I, it wasn't, it wasn't bad. I didn't have any reaction. On September 22nd, 2021, you have your second shot, a Pfizer shot. Can you share with us what happened after that? Can I share why I took it? I'm sorry? Can I share why?

Oh, you absolutely can share why you took it. I took my COVID vaccine because it was minotory. in school, very pressured to take the COVID vaccine in order to do any, like, school events or like to join sports. I was planning to join the volleyball team in the wintertime. I needed a vaccine proof.

I was also in the yearbook of photography team taking pictures. for the sport team. And in order for me to continue, taking pictures, I needed my second shot. And without it, I wouldn't be able to continue. So on September 22, on the 2021, I mean,

I went, my mom took me to a vaccine clinic, And I remember it was very scary because there was, that was the day it became mandatory in New Brunswick. And there was a long line up outside of the clinic. There were people crying because they were scared of losing their job. There were kids scared, like they were crying asking their mom, what are we doing here? And so yeah, I went inside and I was told to sign a piece of paper. I was rest to sign the paper. I don't know what it was.

I didn't have time to read the paper. Once I signed it, they said go to the table and you'll get your vaccination. So I went and sat at that table and I was never told any possible side effects. I was only told I could have like a sore arm and maybe like a flu-like symptom for the next few days. But I was never told I could be severely injured and be in a wheelchair. As soon as I felt the injection going down, going inside my arm, I felt the back of my neck going very stiff. And I was about the solution going down my arm.

It felt very cold and heavy. And after that, we were told to wait 15 minutes in the waiting area. And I was with my mom, and we were waiting. And within like 10 minutes, I would say, I started having a really big headache and some hands. And I started feeling the tingly feeling at the bottom of both of my feet. And so I told my mom about what I'm feeling because she's a nurse. And I never felt like I didn't have any of those feelings with my first vaccine.

So I was a little concerned now. So I told my mom about it. And so she immediately told one of the staff worker about my sister. symptoms and I was told to wait 10 more minutes. So we waited more and I was also told like if it gets worse, let them know again. My symptoms were not like my headache and the tingly feeling. It wasn't getting worse, but it wasn't getting any better. And I already had a long day at school.

So I just told my mom, take me home. I'll just take a tarantone and try and know it. I tired and all and tries to get off. So she took me home. I talked to my final. I went to sleep. And the next day, I woke up weakness in my legs. And within five days, I couldn't feel my legs.

My legs, sharp pain going up and down my spine. So my mom took me to the emergency. to the emergency hospital. And the hospital, I was surprised it wasn't busy. I was seeing immediately. And the doctor asked what, like, what brought me here today? And I explained my symptoms. And I said it was soon after the COVID vaccine.

and he immediately said no it's probably just a flu go home and just take more time on you'll be fine so i just want to make sure we have this this clear so you at that time can't feel your legs are you able to stand so you so you're a 16 year old high school student who can't stand You've also got this headache, pins and needles. I guess you don't have those anymore. You can't feel anything. Is this from the waist down? And the doctor suggests to you that it's a flu.

Yeah, you didn't do any tests. No blood work, no. No, I don't have my mom spoke up. And I'm so grateful she was there. She spoke up and said, no, go do something. She mentioned about Guillain Barrier syndrome, which it can happen from any vaccine. And the doctor looked at her and said, how do you know about this? How do you know those medical terms?

and my mom said because I'm a nurse and as soon as she said that it's like I was talking to different doctors he changes his mind he's okay I'm going to go

do this this test he admitted me to the hospital that night he started treated me differently because my mom says she's a nurse now you're never able to walk normally again four days after it's been it's been five years now and um i'm still having a heart

my left foot drags when i i tried to walk um after i got admitted to hospital um the doctors give me stereotes, which I gained the feelings back. And my right leg came back good. So my left leg has been very weak. It drags. And I'm in this dream pain every day. Like today I'm in a lot of pain. Is it the whole leg that's painful?

Pardon? the entire leg that's painful? It depends on the days. Mostly it's the foot. But if I do a lot of exercise, it will be the whole leg. If it's pouring outside, I find the weather affects a lot.

Traveling affects a lot. I can't even go see my grandma. She lives three hours away from me. And it takes me a whole day to recover when I go see her. So just getting in the car, having to sit in the car, visit, get back in the car, sit in the car, go back in the house. Taking a full day to recover from that. A whole day, yeah. And I have to take some painkillers, which makes me very sleepy.

and I don't like doing that. I don't like being in bed. I want to show two photos of when you're healthy, and then I want to show a photo of one of your leg seizures, but we haven't talked about the leg seizures. Talk about that before we've been a good video. I start having the like tremors about in November, so like two months after receiving my,

vaccine. It happens mostly during night times. I don't get as often as it was before. Before it was almost every night. My leg would shake a lot and it feels like it feels like electric shocks going up and down and it's very painful and you know sometimes they would last up. to like half an hour, sometimes even an hour. The longest I've had was two hours. And I don't get them as much anymore because I found a method to like, I'm getting under control. I find heat and I find heat and drinking, like, just calming myself down, like taking deep breath. like taking deep breath helps.

But when it first started, I didn't know any methods, so it was lasting for a long time. So David, can you pull up the first photo? And this is a photo before your vaccine. And who's that with you? My sister. Okay. And you guys are making a birdhouse or something.

My step up built it. And we just said, decided to decorate it and paint it and we put it in our backyard. We were so happy about it. And then David, can you move to the next photo? And this is you kayaking. Four days before I took my second vaccine. This is four days before your second vaccine.

And then, David, can you play the video of the leg seizure? And then David, do you want to play the video of Jasmine learning to walk again? And are you 17 in this video? Yeah. Yeah. In that video, I don't believe that was in January of 2022. I got admitted to the hospital for physio rehab because there's my neurologist, my family doctor, and my pediatric doctor set multiple referrals to a physiorehab center in New Brunswick, called St.

Cassidy, and every one of the referral got denied. and their reason was they don't deal with vaccine injuries. So I, my private physio told me, my private physiotherapers told me I need intense, intense physio rehab five days a week, and I couldn't receive it as sticacity. So the doctor at Maramishie Regional Hospital admitted me for three weeks of intense physio. And I'm very grateful because I learned how to take a few steps and I learned how to do some stairs with my cane because my bedroom was upstairs. My parents had to, we had to make our dining room into a hospital room for me. We had a hospital bed.

We had, I had a, I don't know, it was like a commode to, um, to, um, um, to use when I need to use a bathroom because my bathroom was even accessible for my wheelchair. So I'm very grateful that I spent a few weeks in Oswald to learn how to do stairs, so I miss my bed. Now, you're still in high school when this happens, and you end up obviously that's disrupted. Can you tell us how you finished high school and what that's. experience was like I actually failed my grade 12 and that was my main reason why I talked about seeing was you just be able to join events like school events with my friends go to prom with them graduate with them and due to like being due to like having doctor's

appointment and like just being in a lot of pain I couldn't even go to school full days. I was going to school half days. I spent due to missing a lot of assignments because of doctor's appointment and I couldn't be in school full days. I filled my great 12 years and I spent it mostly alone in the library because my classroom were not wheelchair accessible. So I had to learn my own courses in the library by myself. That was my last year of high school in the library, all by this. So you did finish. I did.

And then you went on to college. I went to college. I just finished a two-year program. I just finished a two-year program in Social Service community worker because I really want to advocate for others. But you missed a lot of days because you had appointments. And sometimes you're just in too much pain to go. College was really hard because, like you said,

I've been in a lot of pain, and I'm very grateful. My teachers were very understanding. They allow me to do my schoolwork at home on days where I couldn't make it, make it to school. And it was really hard, but I did it. Now, for teenagers, the social life is usually the most important thing. Can you share with us how this affects. affected your social life and friendships. I lost many friends because of this.

One of my friends told me she didn't know how to talk to me after being in a wheelchair. I remember in high school, I was going down the hallway and like we hear people laughing at me. there goes to wheelchair girl. I laughed at and I've lost many friends. It's been very hard to meet people and make friends. My sister has been

I've been mostly hanging out with my sister and her friends. I don't really have any friends. You applied to the vaccine entry support program. and you share with us what happened? I tried it soon after I got injured. I don't remember what they. It's been a nightmare.

I don't remember. I've lost count of how many case managers I've had. Like, I've had over six. And it's so hard to reach out to them. I'm fine. It was really hard. I've asked my mom to help me, help me with the vaccine support program because it was very hard for me.

And they've asked for my medical records three times. We've had to go to the hospital, like San Jose Hospital and Ramishu Hospital, three different times to send my medical records to them. And that was, we had to pay out of our money to have it shipped to the vaccine insurance support program. And then on February, 2024, my mom, came to me and told me I got declined. She showed me the letter. And it was due to lack of evidence

and also due to multiple diagnosis because my doctors didn't know, my doctors doesn't know how to help me. So they've put depression as a diagnose, they've put anxiety as a diagnose, they put functional like conversion disorder as a diagnosis. Um, and I remember telling my mom, and she was like, she told me, no, we're going to pee off for it, we're going to keep fighting. she told me I have so much to achieve and I'm so glad I have her.

It's been two years and I'm still waiting. We appealed two years ago and I'm still waiting for a new case worker. And I got asked to make a new account with the new program, the vaccine impact program. Jasmine, thanks for going. I don't know how you see yourself, but I see you as a leader. I see a very supportive fan. Right?

Supportive sister? Yeah. Right? I see one tough cookie that's been through some stuff, right? But is keep in fighting. So you've taken an incredible step to be here today. Put yourself out there. But you know what you're.

You're an example now to others to other young people. You know, it's a shame that anything has happened. Any of the witnesses here today and especially are young people. And that's what I've been trying to do is spread more awareness for the kids who got injured. We've heard this morning, John Hartman died. And he was very young. It was my age. That could have been me.

And it's what I've been trying to do is just spread more awareness about what the kids have been going through. You know, school was very pressured. I remember teachers just keep, they would ask us in class who got their vaccine and who have it. My school also had a vaccine clinic in the cafeteria. I feel like a prison for me. And this is what I've been trying to do is just talk more about it. Well, we really feel that these four days is,

we really hope and pray it's going to encourage more people to talk publicly about this, right? We feel like the ceiling's been shattered and we should all be able to talk about our experiences and encourage other people to do it. It's no fault of any of the people in here. You were let down by the system. You were let down by politicians. You're let down by the medical community. But you're here for a reason.

And so I just want to encourage you as you lean on your family to find that strength so that you can encourage other young people that may be going through the same thing. So thank you so much for being one. Thank you. for listening to me, Dean. We wish you safe travels. So Jasmine is our last witness.

Chairperson is allowing me to give some closing comments, and then the chair is going to give some closing comments. And I need to thank some people for enabling this inquiry to happen. And the first person I need to thank us. I need to thank our God. This inquiry has a really unusual start. My wife, Teresa, and I were, we traveled to Ottawa last year on a different venture,

and we had an event on Parliament Hill on October 23rd, and a mutual friend who is in the gallery, said, oh, you guys need to stay and meet with MPD, Allison. And so we stayed till Monday and we met with MP Dean Allison, Teresa and I. And, you know, we all got along well and had a nice visit. It was just an initial thing. And MP Allison had said, you know, I've been wanting to hold an inquiry just to listen to vaccine injured Canadians. Nothing more than that. Just listen. And it was interesting because he would say things like, why can't I listen to Canadians?

What's wrong with listening to Canadians, which is telegraphing that he doesn't feel that it's possible politically for him to do that. And Teresa and I, who, you know, have some experience in putting things like this on, had said, well, if you decide to do that, then we may be willing to help you. because it's a big commitment, as all the volunteers know, to put something like this on. So that was that. We parted ways, and a couple of months later, the Holy Spirit was prompting Teresa to contact Dean and say, hey, do you want to do this? Do you want to do this? And so we started having conversations. And in fact, you know, one I, a person that I've come to really appreciate, you know, we're on a Zoom call.

just thought this was a charitable idea, right? And, you know, but Dean was kind of excited about it, but we got to this point where we're on a call with Dean and Teresa and I, and MP Allison is explaining really why this can't happen, why we can't have this inquiry. And so I stopped him, and I just asked, well, will you go and pray about it? because the real issue isn't why we can't do this. The real issue is, are we supposed to be doing this? Is this what we're supposed to be doing? And so Teresa and I thought that it was finished, that there was going to be no inquiry.

And then about 10 days later, we're coming, driving back to Alberta from BC and Dean contacts us and says, no, I think I'm supposed to do this, regardless of the cost. You see, you know, when you make a decision like this, you don't know what will follow. How is his caucus going to respond? Is he going to be kicked out of the party?

That was very reasonable for him to assume that the mainstream media would try to make him look like a monkey. And even a year or two ago, that would have happened and it would have succeeded. And then Teresa and I had to pray for a week and we had to meet with Dean's wife too. had to be on board and the four of us met a week later and just decided, no, we're supposed to do this. Now, this is probably around May 7th, May 8th. And we had to do this before Parliament returned or we wouldn't get a committee room. And then you kind of got it back up. So, okay, so we're this week.

And well, okay, you've got to have a couple of press conferences. People have to learn you exist, to even to apply. and then you got to organize. So we picked June 4th to announce at a press conference in Parliament Hill. So less than a month, we had to start organizing volunteers. We had to create a legal structure to collect and disperse funds. We had to create a website. I think the French website was probably finished about 4 a.m.

The morning we held the press conference. And we held a press conference. and we don't know how the world's going to react, but it absolutely resonated every step of the way God's gone before us in this. Dean made a couple of posts after the press conference on Facebook, and the 24 hours had over a million views, and it's just skyrocketed with every press conference. This just started to resonate.

And I don't know where we are now, but I mean, I was told like we were seventh in the world, I think trending globally a couple of days ago. Like it's just been absolutely amazing. And I'll say without meaningful mainstream media coverage, because there has been some, even if it's been negative. Some's been positive and some has been negative. But for the first time, the issue of COVID-19 vaccine injury has been raised. And so I'd just like to acknowledge the person first.

thank my lord that this happened because i fully believe that what we've all experienced today and yesterday and the day before and the day before it says presence i'd like to thank my wife teresa who's the main organizer there's she's the only person in the world i know that could that could pull this off in such short time i'm in front of the camera and i mean obviously i work hard to interview witnesses and prop them and help with the organization, but I'm a small part compared to her. There are a large number of volunteers, and I don't have time to thank them all, but some that just came to mind this morning when I was quickly trying to decide what to say. And so if I miss you on this list, if you, why did you miss me? I'm sorry, it's just, you know,

I just jotted this down this morning. like to thank Rita and Susan, the two volunteers that sorted all the witnesses and who often at meetings one of them would just weep the whole meeting. You learn not to ask how you're doing because then the rest of the meeting it'd just be weeping. And the reason is, as we've experienced it here, we've seen these people speak and we've all wept. Can you imagine going through 1,400 of these stories. I think that they have a long journey ahead of them. Eric and Jason.

Bonnie, David, Sherry, Miriam, Tracy, our Ottawa volunteer, Christine, and Peter. Those are the ones that came to mind. I know there's more, and forgive me for missing you. This is September 11th. It's kind of interesting. Because it's a day, you know, back the original September 11th, most of us remember where we were.

I was eating breakfast at the Oberlander Hotel in Williams Lake, British Columbia, a rough little town in northern B.C. Because I had court that morning. And the waitress comes up to me and hands me a phone. And the person on the other end of the phone said, you have to get to do. TV right now. So I go up and I watched the plane flying to the second tower and and I think the first tower fell before I had to go to court. And as I'm watching this, I knew that my world had changed. I didn't know how it had changed, but I just had this awareness that that things are now different going forward, that they're no longer the same. And what I came to

from that day forward was the public being managed in a new way with fear. It'd been a weapon against us for a long time, but it went up a few degrees. The dial got turned up, the fear dial got turned up. And since then, I've watched my country and the United States and the rest of the world being managed with fear. here we are quarter of a century later it's hard to believe isn't it 25 years later that we're sitting here after four days of the Allison inquiry and again I feel like my world has changed I feel that something's changed here over this last four days and what I think has changed is is that the

public is starting to reject being managed by fear. It's okay for us to talk. That it's okay for us to cast off this fear and division. I really feel that God has done something here. We have forgotten that we are storytellers, every single one of us. It's the condition of being human. We have this personal experience, and we have to do. share our lives with others. You know, it's why we have friendships. Remember when you're

teenagers and those close friendships and all you just wanted to do is hang out and talk. You know, and we just want to be connected to other people. We want to share our stories. And there's really nothing more cruel and nothing more hateful than excluding people so that they cannot share their stories with us which is what we've done and you know we we are a nation of storytellers we used to be so exceptionally friendly and helpful as I was just very quickly it was I was being told what to share and I became mindful of my maternal great-grandparents like both my father's side came from Ireland and and homesteaded in Saskatchewan,

saw it house the whole thing, and same on my mother's side, came from Austrian-Hungry empire, their Ukrainians. And in Saskatchewan, there's this teeny, I can't even call it a town anymore called Crider, but it's, which is just a combination of a part of two names, but my great-grandfather was the D-O-R and Crider.

He was Theodore Lusik. And back then, we had community and we had family. You know, your barn burned down? It really wasn't a worry because, you know, three weeks later, the community will have gotten together and gotten the lumber and spent all day, Saturday and Sunday building your barn. And we shared stories, and we took care of each other. And, you know, I think it was Dr. McCullough that was talking about,

I mean, part of the problem is the vaccine injured have to start taking responsibility for themselves. But I think, and that's what we're doing here, is MP Allison has gotten the citizens together to organize a hearing themselves. And some people say, well, why didn't government do it? Would you really trust government to do it? And it then kind of begs the question, why should government do it? shouldn't citizens take the lead? Why shouldn't? So why shouldn't citizens take the lead? Why shouldn't we be responsible for ourselves? Why should we trust public health authorities? Why shouldn't we insist on informed consent? If we're going to, if we're going to make sure that we are a nation of storytellers again, it's going to fall on our

shoulders. Michael McNair touched me when he spoke on day two. For those of you who weren't here, he's a former armed forces army. And he was sharing his journey with us. And you know, if you had a transcript, you didn't see his video and you had a transcript, you would see him telling a story with words that were coherence. And, um, an accurate report of his journey, and you would miss his entire testimony, because it wasn't what he said. It was how he said.

He was tense. He was loud. It was almost like he was gritting his teeth and having to force the words out. And it was one of the most precious testimonies and experiences I've ever had the honor of being a part of. because we all saw moral injury.

So we saw it, we felt it, we breathed it, we experienced it. But you know what he said, loudly and through his teeth is we are all in this together. Do you remember him yelling that? We're all in this together. So let us all be in this together.

We're the ones that change the world. We're the ones that make a difference. A small group of people, these podcasters along the wall, this small number of podcasters, have set the world on fire over the last four days. How is it possible that in this small committee room we became the seventh largest trending thing on the internet in the world? Because we got together and these brave witnesses took the stand at great personal and mental cost and some financial cost to be here so that we could once again be a nation of storytellers. And that's what the Allison Inquiry was always meant to be from the beginning, just listening.

And so my closing words are, let's listen. Thank you, Sean. I do want to thank a few people before I, in the closing remarks, we have a great group of people on the Hill that work behind the scenes normally. That was volunteers here and I'll thank the volunteers in a second but we still have an interpreter that we're here. Oh, we thank you so much. They do a great job and they've been here

for me 30 to 5 every day and thank you very much. I do want to thank all the people are here in the room and those that are listening at home. Well, go ahead. I forgot to thank MP Dean Ellison. That's that I still just yeah. So so

but I know I just have to say. He has such love for people and he truly just wanted to listen and he didn't know where this would go. He didn't that you know that everyone would get behind him and defend them online and all of this,

but he just had the heart to listen. I thank you, I thank you. So now I have to thank you. No, I'm just teasing. I was going to thank him anyways, okay? It was in my notes. You know, so listen, I do thank everyone in the room and, you know, the witnesses that took great pain.

Like I said, I can't say it enough. You know, I, my part of my job is to listen to people. That's what I do in my office. I listen to, you know, 10 or 12 people, whoever comes in or they get a half an hour, and they tell me their stories. And every one of their stories to that person is the most important story that they could be. So if I can listen to people's stories privately, why can't we listen to people's stories publicly, right? So that is really what this is about.

So to the witnesses, thank you. Thank you for your stories. To the expert witnesses for helping us, you know, give a little. little context, right? When we talked about, as I said, we have to have a little context of what's going on. Because if we don't have any context, then people won't know why people are hurt, why they're injured. And so to the witnesses, to the expert witnesses, thank you, to the MPs that took time to come out. You know, this schedule was really around Sean and mine schedule, right? I mean, we picked a date that would work based on the fact that I got caucus next week in B.C., we're going

back to Parliament the week after. We can't get a room. More and likely, we won't be able to get a room because we'll be meetings back in these rooms in just two or three short weeks. So I do want to mention that I'm grateful for the MPs that have come out. I had a number of my colleagues reach out to me and say, Dean, we are so grateful for what you're doing. We just can't make it. Our schedules are jammed. Like I said, everyone in Parliament, I tell people this all the time. There's 343 members of Parliament. There are 25 different committees. Everyone's got a special something they work on. And so, you know, why can't my special something be you guys?

Like, why could that be the case? And so that was really sort of the genesis behind having that conversation. So I need to thank my wife, who's been very supportive. She's been here helping out this week. I want to thank Phil for my office. Phil has helped coordinate everything from the parliamentary back end of stuff. So I need to thank all those people. So I do want to say a few words just as we close, though.

I really feel like the silence has been broken, right? We wanted to give people permission to speak publicly. And the only way we can do that is by starting to speak publicly. I want to thank the independent media afterwards, but it's a large part of these stories. All right, so mainstream is not telling our stories. Guess what? As I look around the room, there isn't one independent media

that hasn't shared people's stories. Thank you. Thank you for what you do. Because how else do we get it out? We didn't get it out any other way. And so I really believe that we can't go back to the way that things have been the last five years. We can't go back to people suffering in silence

because they're afraid or they won't be believed. I think we gave enough context whether people listened to it or not today over the last four days to indicate why people shouldn't have to suffer in silence. And how we've gotten to this place. And Sean talk about it like that again. But, you know, we should not accept the fact when people want to ridicule or dismiss you or say it's all in your head.

I mean, how many times do we hear witnesses say? They say it's in my head. Oh, man, I don't want to hear that. That's very offensive to hear. So that's what we've done, right? We've done over the last four days. We've listened to people. We've heard how people's health has changed dramatically and forever.

We've heard about the families and the support that they offer and how their families. have been changed forever. We've talked about people searching for answers. We heard that many times, right? Like, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. So, you know, no matter what people think about COVID or the vaccines or public policy, compassion should never be controversial, right?

That should never be controversial. So when some doctor online starts chirping us, we can go back hard and say, like, you're not going to chirp us, because we're talking about people and how they feel. We're not talking about anything other than the fact that these individuals have been hurt and been injured. And they, guess what? It's the government that said you've been injured.

They've got a program. Hasn't been run well, we heard over the last four days. But we knew that coming into this. So where do we go from here? First of all, I think we've got to keep talking. We have shattered the ceiling of silence. And so we need to encourage more, not private. Hey, let's do private conversations.

We got to encourage more public discussion, right? We can't shy away from that. We can't back for that. And, you know, when our colleagues are mocked online or they're dismissed or unfairly characterized, I expect everybody to run to their defense and to support them. When an MP does something good, I expect people to say, thank you, online, whatever,

because sometimes it takes a little bit of a little bit of, I don't even say guts. When people don't understand, sometimes it's hard to know how to interact. When you think about going to a funeral of a loved one that's passed, and you don't know what to say, and you don't know if you should be there, and you don't know if they'll accept you for being, that's kind of like what this is for people that don't understand the community. So when people reach out, we need to encourage them, we need to thank them.

It also means asking questions. We can't stop asking questions. That was said by almost every expert witness. we've got to keep asking questions. We've got to ask why. We've got to ask how. We've got to figure out where the evidence is, and we've got to keep going that.

And we also need to encourage legislators to step up, right? And so I think we need to continue to advocate on behalf of Canadians are sick and injured and vulnerable, right? And if we can do that for every other category, cancer, dementia, diabetes, we sure as that can do that for those that are vaccine injured, right? I think a lot of it's just people are ignorant. I don't mean ignorant, rude. I mean ignorant.

They just don't understand what's happened. And if you spend any time talking to you, as I have over the years, not this many at this amount of time, but you would understand what it is. I also believe that it shouldn't be politically inconvenient to people, right? So we need to challenge governments to be more accountable. We need to keep pushing for better access to care. We need to push for resources. Dr. McCull, other doctors said it today. We got to encourage more resources for that, dialogue and treatment.

We need transparent surveillance of reporting of adverse events. Man, transparency and accountability are a fund of major. There's no reason why citizens'ry cannot ask that of government regularly, consistently all the time. And I think that every Canadian has the right to know. What's the evidence? What's the limitations of the evidence? What's changed, as new evidence has merged. Dr. McCullough talked about today of studies that he did years ago

or what he knew years ago, and new evidence has come out to support that. And because we're talking about 2019 or 2020 evidence, that's not acceptable. And that's where we need to come in in terms of education and letting people know where they're at. So I don't think people should ever think that questions are dangerous. I think they should just be realized that it's part of this democratic process that we're all a part of. We should be able to ask difficult questions of Health Canada. How is it funded? We heard some conversations today that Big Pharma is involved.

How are decisions made? What safeguards exist against conflicts of interest? How do adverse events are investigated, whether Canadians have sufficient access to the underlying evidence to make regulatory decisions? These are all questions that will raise during this inquiry. So governments, and I think we need to always have that underlying discussion around censorship. We must continue to resist censorship and attempts to determine which voices of Canadians were permitted to hear, right? Government should never decide which journalists are legitimate based on whether the reporting is convenient to those in power. And just in the last day, we're talking about a registry, all right?

You guys all read that stuff. Come on, give me a break. you know, give me a break. And that's why I do want to recognize independent journalists again and media organizations have been willing to listen and ask questions and give people an opportunity

to tell their stories. You know, we're just doing some back of the napkin ideas and more analysis will happen in the coming days because that's how we're going to start tell a part of our story. You know, I've been looking at trying to keep track on X in terms of the post

and new categories pop in and they pop out and we were looking at one from two days ago. The best I can tell is there's probably been over 300,000 posts. Think about that. Over 300,000 posts that has happened just in the last four days on X. That doesn't include, that's not views. That's just posts. Think about that.

And that is because of people in the room. That is because of people telling their stories. That is because of people that aren't here that are telling the stories as well. And I think that's pretty impressive. We just talked about some of the numbers as well as you look at that. And those numbers don't include Facebook, Instagram, or any kind of the streaming. We're looking at that there's a possibility that we've got 10 to 12 million views through streaming just these few days. And then on Facebook, Instagram and stuff like that.

I can tell you, from my own social media, just in the last week, we got almost 9 million views on Facebook and Instagram and X and those kinds of things. We've got to keep pushing that out. We have got to be able to share, clip, post, tell people, and tell people to tell people. Right? This is what we got to do. We've got to share this information because sometimes it's not ignorance. Once again, sometimes it's a lack of knowledge. And we are the educators in the room.

It is your lived experience. It's your life experience. And do not let them take that away from you that you should not be allowed to share it. It is your experience. And people need to understand. And so they're not afraid. And so as we look at that, and we'll do a better debrief on the numbers, as I look at that, you know, that's somewhere over 20 million views.

Think about that. First press conference, maybe we had a million plus views just on Facebook. I'm not talking about streaming. I'm talking all this. I'm just this is an awareness tool, right? But today it could be north of 20 million. That's pretty good, ladies and general. It's a very, very good job.

And I want to give a round of applause for the independent media in the room, guys. Yes, absolutely. So why can't we drive that? Why can't we drive that to 2050 to 100 million views, right? As we continue to reshare people's stories. You know, a free society requires journalists to ask uncomfortable questions. That's what I see happening. But responsibility does not rest of the politicians or doctors or journalists.

It risks with the citizens as well. So I think now more than ever, Canadians need to hear and help people tell their stories. So listen to them and share their experiences. Ask questions, demand evidence, and insist that our institutions treat every Canadian with dignity. This inquiry was never intended to be the final word. It was intended to begin a conversation that should have begun years ago. And some of you told me that. We should have started this ages ago.

But there still needs to be a serious examination of how the pandemic was handled. What governments got right, what they got wrong, what evidence did. decisions were based upon what harms occurred and what must be done differently in the future. This examination should not be about revenge. It should be about accountability, learning, and ensuring that mistakes are not repeated. Most importantly, we need to continue talking about these experiences because silence does not help people find answers. Conversations lead to questions. Questions lead to investigation. An investigation leads to evidence. And evidence can lead to a better treatment, better policy, and hopefully help for people

who desperately need it. To everyone who testified during this inquiry, thank you for your courage. To everyone who applied to testify, but to whom we could not hear you during these four days, your story still matters. To the families who stood beside someone who is suffering, Thank you. And to the Canadians watching who have been afraid to speak about what happened to them, you have permission to speak. The silence has been broken. Our responsibility now is to make sure it never is imposed again.

This inquiry may be ending today, but our work is not. We are not done. There is more work to do. There are more questions to ask. There are more stories to hear. And there are Canadians who still need our help. So, we're going to keep listening. We're going to keep asking questions.

We'll keep seeking answers, and we will keep standing with those who have asked for far too long, simply to hear. Thank you.