Shaun Newman Podcast - #1143 - Peter Mac Isaac
Episode Date: October 12, 2026Peter Mac Isaac is a retired forest technologist, conservation officer (game warden), and professional forest firefighter based in Bedford in the Halifax region of Nova Scotia. He spent 29 years with ...the province’s Department of Natural Resources, fighting wildfires across Nova Scotia and serving as an incident commander on numerous fires, including large ones. During the major 2023 Nova Scotia wildfires, he organized a team of experienced retired specialists offering operational support, which the province declined. He is also an author of The Redneck Conservative: How Conservatives Are Made (2024) and Don’t Die In Wildfires: 29-Year Wildland FireFighter’s Battle-Tested Guide to Save Your Home, Family, and Life When Flames Strike, drawing on his decades of conservation and firefighting experience.Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.comText Grahame: (587) 441-9100Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: welcome@BowValleycu.com Nor’East Apothecary - USE promo code SNP for 15% off your orderhttps://thepowerofplants.ca/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500
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Today's guest spent 29 years
with the Department of Natural Resources in Nova Scotia.
He's also an author.
He wrote The Redneck Conservative,
how conservatives are made,
And don't die in wildfires,
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to save your home, family, and life when flames strike.
I'm talking about Peter McIsaac.
So buckle up.
Here we go.
Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.
Today I'm joined by Peter McIsaac,
and he's filled me full of apple cake.
Coffee.
Coffee.
He keeps talking, and so I'm like,
I'm just going to click record,
even with, you know, how unprofessional is to have food in your mouth where you're talking.
Regardless.
Thanks for having me in your place.
Yeah, hey, but real pleasure having you.
I've actually been looking forward to it.
Yeah, well, I was saying, you know, before we started,
I was supposed to interview Paul Palango.
And then that, you know, we break down on all the different things.
You weren't supposed to be around.
Paul was supposed to be here.
Now it's flip-flopped and Paul's gone.
You're here.
So I asked you about, you know, the 22 murders that happened in 2020, right?
Like out West, I remember it.
And yet I wasn't doing it.
this yet, right? Like, I was interviewing people, but my connection, weirdly enough to that,
was I was supposed to interview a female Olympic hockey player. And she was good friends with the
lady officer who was killed. Okay. And so, like, that whole interview just disappeared because
she was just like, I just not in a place where her head to Nova Scotia, that type of thing.
That was like as close they got to it. But I never dug into it because I was still in those days
trying to act like the world wasn't going insane.
I was doing my best to just like interview,
I don't know, take your pick of hockey player, etc.
and stick to the athletes.
Now, Porta Pic is like a stone throw from here.
Your background in law enforcement and then some.
Let's just start there.
Like with this Wharton and everything going on there,
everything in the first book leads me to believe.
And I'm sure that's the way Paul, you know,
The evidence just starts mounting that he was doing something with the RC&P.
I worked for Department of Natural Resources for 29 years,
18 of those I was an armed officer.
And I patrolled the area that the Port-O-Pic massacres initially took place in where they started
and worked in the areas where all of the killings took place at one time or another over my career.
I was also good friends with Leon Jodry.
I actually worked with Leon for over 20 years.
We hunted and fish together.
And I went up the day after the murders actually to meet with them.
And I had my drone equipment and flew all the murder scenes.
And so...
When you say the day after, do you mean like...
Monday.
And when did the murders start?
They started on Saturday night.
Okay.
So then he's killed Sunday.
Monday you're there.
Yeah, Monday I'm up there.
Okay.
Visiting with Leon.
And Leon took me around to things.
He was pretty rattled.
I mean, you got to remember all his neighbors were dead.
And Leon was really shook up.
up. But Leon had a story that he told me on that day that he never deviated from at any time.
And what he had told me at the time, and he's a dead man now, and he can't come back and,
you know, he can't be questioned on that, that he was 100% convinced that Gabriel Wartman's
wife was involved in everything that took place. And his reasoning for that, you've got to remember
that Leon was an outdoorsman. He was an avid hunter and fisherman. And that night, when the shooting
started at around 10 p.m. or a little bit after, the temperature had dropped to around zero
in coastal Nova Scotia where you have high humidity and zero. And she claimed she spent over eight
hours in the woods with jim pants on a t-shirt and in her sock feet. And I can tell you as an outdoor
wildlife specialist and a survival expert, that she would have had hypothermia and very likely
died after eight hours of exposure in that weather. Leon told me that on that Monday, he said there's no way
Pete that she spent the night in the woods. She was someplace, but she wasn't inside a tree or hidden
in the root system of a tree, whatever she had claimed. When he had come to her house, he had walked,
she had walked up the lane to his place. And when Leon answered the door, she was obviously a little
bit chilly. But at zero degrees and dressed like that, you'd be chilly after you walked 100 yards.
And she, he told me her hair wasn't disheveled. She didn't have any marks on her. And he,
I think he took her in the house, called 911, wrapped her in a blanket, gave her his sneakers,
I think maybe a sweater or something else.
But he was 100% convinced at the time that she was lying to him, that there was no way that she had been beaten.
She had no marks on her when she left the house.
And a couple of strange things happened when the Earth team showed up to pick her up at the house that morning.
They didn't do a full inspection around his property.
They just come in, picked her up, put her in a vehicle, left right away,
without doing, you know, a full sweep.
A full sweep of the property.
And he had containers and a garage
with the door partway opened.
And nobody had checked to see
if anyone was hiding inside at none of those things.
So based on my enforcement background,
right off the bat, I said,
okay, here's a bunch of things
that aren't adding up right off the bat.
She claimed that she had been handcuffed,
escaped from handcuffs in the back of a police unit,
climbed out through the silent patrol man,
and that's that little window,
between the back seat and the front seat and the police vehicle
that's designed so an adult can't get through it.
And what bothered me through the whole inquiry later on, Sean,
was that all they had to do to see if her story was accurate
was have her come in with handcuffs on.
She could have showed the inquiry how she escaped them,
and they could have brought in a silent patrolman,
set it up on a table,
and she could have showed them how she was able to crawl through one.
And that would have ended that, and they didn't do it.
And the other thing they didn't do during the inquiry
was they didn't call Leon Jodry to give evidence.
Now, people need to realize behind the scenes,
Leon was saying one thing, and the RCMP were saying,
no, no, this is just, you know, this looks like family violence
and one thing or another.
And he was going, no, Pete, none of this is adding up.
And so within a couple of days, he was pulled over on the side of the road by the Mounties,
and they gave him a mandatory 30 days in the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation.
And I called them the next day in the hospital and said, Liam, what the hell did you do?
Were you speeding? Did you run them?
Or did you threaten somebody? He said, no, man, I thought they'd pulled me over for speeding.
And in the back of his car, he had removed his crossbow and his firearms, and he had them in his truck.
And when they hauled him, took him away and took him to the hospital, they didn't give him an opportunity to lock up his vehicle.
Later on that evening, they went back and towed his vehicle.
They subsequently charged him with improper storage of his firearms.
and that was done specifically to discredit him.
And it worked.
And that's why they wouldn't pull him in for an interview.
I talked to him a couple of days in row when he was in the hospital.
He said, man, he said, I'm completely normal.
I mean, they drugged him up when they got him in the hospital initially.
But nothing made sense.
And Leon never waived from his story ever.
He was always convinced that she was either working for the RCMP,
along with Warpman.
He believed that Warpman was an undercover agent.
for the RCMP and that he also believed that she may have been working for the RCMP as well.
And right after Leon was found dead at his home, now here's something else I want to throw it to you too.
Leon had two dogs.
And he thought more of those dogs than most people do with their kids.
And he was found by somebody that called RCMP.
And the RCMP claimed that caused a deathless carbon dioxide poisoning.
But they never did a full autopsy on him.
And he was cremated within 24 hours of them finding him.
I believe it was in 24.
It might have been 36 hours.
But any evidence that somebody had potentially done anything of drugged Leon
and shut him up in regards to this incident,
once he was cremated, you couldn't go back and find out any evidence.
When did he die?
He died.
I can't remember.
the date now, but it was, it was after the inquiry was ongoing. It was after the inquiry.
It was about a year later, I think something along those lines. It might, and it might have been.
So like 2023 timeframe? Yeah, that one I can't say for sure, but I can say for sure for this.
He was scheduled to go back to work. He, a good buddy of mine who I was supposed to be goose hunting
with this morning. He had contracted with him to go back to and clean up some hurricane damage
around his home.
And he said he was feeling great.
Now, earlier that week, he did an online interview with one of the major news,
one of the major news companies here in Nova Scotia and said that he didn't want to be here
anymore.
What he was talking about when he said that, he was talking about down in Portipig, he didn't
want to be there anymore.
And that was interpreted that he didn't want to be on this planet anymore and killed
him so.
So the key thing is, is he was found in his home.
He had set up a genera.
The generator was running in the house.
And Leon, who thought more of his dogs the most people do with their kids, didn't make arrangements for the pets.
And as soon as my wife heard that, she said, something's wrong with that.
She said, Leon would have went to somebody and said, look, I'm going to be away for a few days.
Can I look after my pets?
And the pets were in the house, and they didn't die of monoxide poisoning.
And Leon did.
And they're only half his body size.
Leon was probably around 220, around probably six feet 220.
And it's like a canary and a columbus.
mine, the thing with the smaller body mass dies first from an oxide poisoning. And when Leon was gone
within days, Wartman's wife filed a lawsuit against the province for damaging her reputation. And she
ended up, I think she got a million or a million and a half in damages. And so I went to
Tural PD and I talked to an investigator. And when I told him about the dogs, he went, well, he said,
How could he be fine and the dogs not be dead?
And so, you know, even Paul, Paul's convinced after talking to Leon that he may be killed, that he killed himself.
I'll never be convinced that Leon Jodry killed himself.
And when Leon Jodry died, the truth of what happened in Portepeg died with him.
Well, if you haven't read 22 murders, I was saying to Pete, when I first got out here,
I started listening to it, so shout out to Kevin for sending it to me.
Because I was looking for things to listen to on a 48-hour drive back across the country.
And I listened to a couple podcasts, and then I looked at this audio book.
I'm like, well, I'm going to interview Paul.
I should read it, you know?
Like, you know, I didn't realize what I was about to go down because the first 10 hours of that book is maybe one of the most fascinating and darkest and all the words after that.
it just reads like you're like what this can't be real life and I stayed I had to put myself to bed I was still driving at three in the morning yeah I'm finally like Sean you should probably go to bed but every time a chapter end I was like I kind of want to hear what goes on after this and he was one of the key parts where you go wait so why did they write him off so quick like that doesn't make any sense because his story destroyed the entire narrative and here's the other thing the research
And the writing that Paul Polango did on this is probably the finest piece of investigative policing reporting I've ever read.
I've read the second book anatomy of a cover-up.
Well, and I'm listening to it.
And I keep timing my Spotify account out, so I have to keep purchasing more time.
So Paul, eventually, I'm going to be interviewing you.
And now I'll have both books done.
Because once you're done the first book, you're like, okay, well, now I've got to finish the second one, right?
but I mean, I think the first book was 20 hours roughly.
And the second one is like 19.
So, you know, set aside some time, folks.
Drive across the country.
It's probably, matter of fact, I have a copy signed by Paul Polango on the shelf up there behind you right now, actually.
So because I had worked down in that area, I knew that there was parts of the story that I got a hold of Paul and said, well, Paul, that's just not factual.
You're here and lie after lie after lie.
And as soon as I started realizing, because I worked with RCMP over my career.
and they lied all the time under oath.
I watched them sit in court.
So how are you, like you sit here and you, you've got a friend that very good possibility taken out because of what he knew.
You've got like the largest murder spree in Canadian history sitting in your back doorstep where you go.
It looks like they both worked with the RCMP.
That's my take on it.
Now, you know what? I'm basing that on what Leon Jodry told me.
So if his wife decides that she wants to sue me, basically, I'm telling you, this is what I was told by Leon Jodry.
And so what happens is I even know the doctor who inspected her when the police took her in.
And I also know how undercover operations work inside RCMP and DNR.
So when you're involved in the UC operation and it looks like your cover's going to be blown,
it's okay for other officers to smack you around and put marks on you to help cover you up.
Because Leon told me at the house she had no marks on.
Her hair wasn't messed up.
Her makeup wasn't messed up.
None of what was reported later how she was found.
And he's got to remember that Leon would be what would be referred to as a trained observer.
I mean, the boy was a really sharp hunter.
He would spot minor details.
And the details of somebody being smacked around and beat up and spent a night in the woods at zero degree.
none of those things were there.
So right off the bat,
nothing in her story held up.
Especially how did you get out of cuffs
and how did you climb out through a silent patrolman?
And then how did you survive at zero degrees for eight hours
along the shorelines in Nova Scotia in the woods?
It didn't happen.
I guess I come back to you sit here and I'm like,
man, you either, I don't know,
are you ever like, you talk about CES's watch list
and everything else, you know?
I just, I literally just interviewed Jeremy McKenzie, right?
That'll be coming out before you.
And I, you know, people told me that the first time interview him.
Well, now Cases has fallen, you?
And Cases is following me.
I opened, I talked about it in my first book, the Red Nent Conservative.
And I had opened three criminal code, not open, but filed three criminal code complaints against Justin Trudeau.
And one of them was for the Algonne Affair and then the Wii charity and then his hate speech rant that he gave two.
a Quebec news station in French, where he called everybody who was in faxed.
I forget there was a long litany of names he used, but it was a hate speech rant.
And right after I opened my first complaint against Trudeau with the RCMP Ottawa, their triage unit,
and they opened the file.
Justin Trudeau appointed Brenda Lucky to head the RCMP.
And weeks later, the file got squashed, went away.
And then the weed charity went away.
Now, the upside of that is Bill Marnow was named in that case, and he had a step.
down but Trudeau still slid, you know, Teflon Trudeau, he escaped that one. But that one got me a,
that one got me a full CESIS investigation. I had a friend inside the RCP who called me up,
said, man, what'd you do? And I said, well, you got a full-blown CESIS investigation in the end.
Now you've got RCP, I'm asked to keep an eye on you. And that's because I opened those
complaints against Trudeau. And so at the time when I did it, to be honest with you, I was still
naive enough to think, well, maybe someone somewhere will do the right thing, but they just
categorically, the RCMP categorically will not do what they're supposed to do, Sean. And the reason
being, in the mid-90s, when they changed their hiring policy, you had to be full-on woke to be able
to get into the Mounties. And they started hiring based on diversity, equity, and inclusion. So now
every single person in every upper rational opposition inside the RCMP now is, am I allowed to use
the word woke tired? Sure. Because that's what they are. And they're fully woke.
and you cannot get promoted inside the RCMP
unless you buy into all the woke garbage
that's being shoved down your throat.
The whole diversity, equity and inclusion thing is nonsense.
And that's why you don't see any politicians,
no matter what crimes they commit,
nobody goes to jail.
It's not just the Mounties,
it's the same thing inside the prosecution system.
So if you're going to lay a charge on a politician in Canada,
federal MP, you have to lay the charge
through Ottawa RCMP.
And even if they want to open a file
and they do want to charge it, you still have to find a Crown prosecutor who wants to prosecute you.
Well, all Crown prosecutors eventually want to end up becoming a judge.
And judges are appointments.
And the only way you get appointed to Supreme Court judge, for example, is that that happens at the federal level.
Seven of our nine Supreme Court judges right now are liberals that were appointed since 2015
since the liberal government's been in.
You don't need to control a whole parliament.
You just need to control the Supreme Court.
buddy, I'm pretty jaded when it comes to this stuff now.
I spent 29 years inside government where we lied to people every day, every day.
And 90% of our lies weren't outright lies.
We only give you the piece of the story that made the government look good.
We could never give you the whole story.
So everything was disclosure.
You never got full disclosure on anything.
10% was outright lies, 90% was inadequate disclosure.
We just told you what made the government sound good.
and it because if you knew what was really going on behind the scenes you'd be at at politician's doors with pitchforks and torches
when you tell people this where like they just roll their eyes in no actually a lot of them they
here's what happens is do you know what the dunning kruger uh the dunning kruger uh the dunning kruger
they did a study and the study said that most people that aren't well versed on a topic
don't know they're not well-versed on a topic and think they're experts at something they know nothing about.
So most people don't know that they don't know, but they think they know.
And then they're more than willing to buy into a narrative or tell you stories based on the fact that what they think to be true,
not knowing that they don't know anything that's going on behind the scenes.
And so I was behind the scenes for 29 years.
And when I retired from DNR, then I got involved in provincial politics.
and Jamie Bailey at the time, who was running to be Premier, asked me to run in Sackville.
So I went, hey, look, maybe if I can get in, I can go over to natural resources,
clean out all the work tards at the upper levels, and get things working again.
And I had a good showing, but I didn't win.
I was new to politics.
So I stayed involved.
And then behind the scenes, I realized that, man, this is a serious old boys club.
And everything, no matter how bad you think it is, you only will ever know a,
fraction of how bad it really is. The lies, the deceit, the skull dug, the level of skull duggery,
and the, and the corruption and the bribery and all of it. It's everything you think it is times 10.
And I'm speaking from a place of credibility. After that, provincially, when I walked away from
the provincial party, I was, somebody convinced me to become the president of Halifax West,
the federal conservative party. So I was president of that for three years. And then,
And there was some skullduggery going on behind the scenes.
People wonder why Pierre Polyev can't get things done.
It's because he's controlled by people inside the party that have infiltrated the party.
And they have their own agenda and their agenda is to make certain that conservative policies never get implemented in Canada.
And so what happens is I blew the whistle on some of the stuff going on.
And rather than fix it, I got turfed from the party.
And so that's when I wrote that first book I wrote, the Redneck Conservative, How Conservatives.
made and I talk about all the stuff we're talking about here. I talk about what happened to Leon.
And then I realized inside the party system is that because I was being a shadow ban so badly,
like every time I'd get X up to 5,000, I'd lose my account. Someone would hack into it or one
reason or another. I'd lose stuff. I just lost it again recently. I got back up to 8,500 and
bang gone again. I'm trying to rebuild it. So that's why I wrote a book, because you might be able to
you might be able to shut me down electronically, but you can't shut down a copy of a paper
book. And that's the one thing that they can't stop from people getting their hands on.
So I wrote that book. And then I also watched what was happening in wildfires all across
Canada. And, you know, in 20, I guess it was 20, 25, I sat home and watched what was happening
in the Palisades down in California. And I was watching, you know, billions of dollars in
destruction. I was watching people getting killed. I was watching people doing things on job sites that
were just, the results of what they were doing were going to be catastrophic. And the level of
incompetence was staggering to me. A guy, you know, like I was I see probably on at least 100 fires
over my career. You know, that's only an average of three year. And I was on some pretty big fires.
but I watched right after I retired in 2012 here in Nova Scotia.
We got rid of our fire tower system that they still have out in Alberta.
Low tech, highly effective.
And you don't have to rely on electronics.
You always have eyes on fire.
Nova Scotia shut down the entire system.
We got rid of our tip of the spear, Helatac crew.
Those were the guys that kept fires at three acres
instead of letting fires turn into 30,000 acres.
They were out west.
You guys have even a level above.
You have what's called rap teams.
So let's say, for example, somebody spotted a force fire in a remote area.
Well, the first guys that roll in, it's not ground troops.
It's somebody in a team in a helicopter with guys that can wrap down.
With chainsaws, they can, in minutes, create a landing pad, drop a helicopter, drop down a team.
They can start fighting fires.
And then that helicopter can start water bombing right away.
And so when an NDP government came in out in Alberta, they started getting rid of those rap teams.
And they started cutting back on fire budgets.
And all across Canada, roughly around 2010, when the government was beating the drum about, you know, climate catastrophe and the world was going to burn and everything, rather than double their assets and firefighting capabilities, they started cutting them almost in half.
Say here in Nova Scotia, our five-man crews dropped down to three in most areas.
We got rid of our helotag team.
We got rid of our fire towers.
We got rid of our paper burning system where if you wanted to burn, you had to come in and talk to a field tech who 50% of the time would talk you out of burning.
And so I watched all this stuff.
And I sat down last winter and I wrote another book called Don't Die in Wildfires.
And I called everybody out on it.
Out West, look what happened in Jasper.
Absolute catastrophe.
How many people, Sean, do you think, got fired after what happened in Jasper?
A big fat goose egg, exactly.
Nobody got fired.
Sorry, nobody can see that.
Sorry, I was saying zero.
Yeah, he's saying zero.
And the reason is, is that nobody got fired.
Did you know that there was a team at 20 of the best firefighters in the province showed up?
And they had access to 50 of the best pieces of equipment for firefighting around structures
in what we call the urban wildfire interface.
and the government wouldn't let them fight fires.
They had to stay parked and watch homes and that burned down in Jasper
because the feds wouldn't let them fight the fire.
Gross, absolute gross negligence,
DEI hiring, chickens came home to roost.
People were hired and put in positions they should never be in.
And the problem is once you're inside the federal government,
there's no way for them to get rid of you.
Management is non-union.
So they just, once they're in there, they're embedded.
And then they had this real bad Abida hiring other no brains that come along with them that make them look good.
The last thing they want is highly competent.
The last thing a woke tired once around them is somebody highly competent that's going to make them look bad and question them.
Buddy, I keep going on.
I want you to do some talk.
Well, I don't know what to say, right?
Like I go back to the 22 murders and what you're talking about there and just, I'm sitting here and I'm like,
the only thing that comes to mind, Peter, is I'm like,
are you all worried they're going to try and snuff you out for being outspoken?
Or you don't have any, like, you don't have any, like, you do.
I got a special skill set. They tend to leave me alone.
Yeah. And that's all I'll say to that matter.
Because the fact of the matter is, even on the court case that were involved in here
provincially, where the 20, walk us through the court case.
Well, so what happened here in Nova Scotia, Tim Houston,
Tim Houston is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination or current premier.
And he was involved in something down in the Caribbean called the Paradise Papers.
Tim, specially as an accountant, was hiding rich people's money so they paid the least amount of taxes possible.
It wasn't illegal, but they walked the razor's edge continually.
And Tim was an excellent, he was an expert at hiding money for these people.
Not hiding about making sure that they paid as little tax as possible.
And when he came to Nova Scotia, he convinced me and a lot of other people that he was a hardcore conservative.
Man, and it turned out that he's a Manchurian candidate.
He's the last thing.
He's a lot of things, but he's not a conservative.
And so I actually helped work with him to help get him elected.
Then I caught him three different times outright lying to me.
And I ended that relationship with him.
And I decided, okay, provincial politics is broken so bad, I don't know how to fix it.
But I get together with a couple of engineers.
And they looked at what was going on in the province through engineers' eyes
rather than a politician's eyes.
And both of them were specialists as engineers
and breaking things and putting them back together, right?
And we looked at every district in Nova Scotia.
And there were seven districts that Tim Houston
as premier when he won his majority
that he only barely won them by.
And so Paul Westaber,
who's just an absolute genius
in the engineering field,
he's got over 20 patents,
he's a medical device expertise,
he's just a whole bunch of different things.
He had looked at,
looked at it and said, well, why don't we help communities find independence to run in those
areas where the numbers, you know, they have a chance of winning. And if they won and there was
enough independence, you'd hold the sway of power. And if it's a minority government,
well, look right now in Ottawa, if we had 10 independents, Kearney would not be able to do anything
that he's doing right now because those 10 independents would control the balance of power.
Same thing in BC. So we were on.
on track here in Nova Scotia. I'm the president of the independent Nova Scotia initiative.
And we were traveling from one end of Nova Scotia to the other
and helping communities find people who wanted to run as independents.
And the difference being is we were looking for independents who would sign a contract
with their constituents, a performance-based contract, same as if I hired you to come work
in the oil patch, Sean. I'd say, here's what I want you to do. You've got X amount of time.
Here's our budget. And if I catch you line, cheat and steal and you show.
up on the job, drunk, any of these things, you're fired. And so we wanted to put that in writing
with constituents in every community where the independent would sign a performance contract.
And for the first time in Canadian history, the constituents can actually control their MP
or MLA once they're in office. Because right now, once they're in office, legally in Canada,
you can't touch them until the next election, no matter what they do. You have no legal recourse in
Canada because there's a court case that came out of Alberta called the Little Child case.
And it was ruled then that no, the only, no matter what lies they tell you, there's nothing
you can do about it. So we were on track to have, to run an independent, help these communities
run an independent in every riding. And we had a set election date. And Tim Houston knew what
we were up to. And he knew what we were up to because there was an early by-election. And we
had a guy named Bobby Lee Dillman run in it. And we found out there was multiple charter violations
inside the Elections Act, and they used those to keep him off the ballot.
And that was a blessing because that showed us the chinks in their armor inside the system.
And by the way, what happened was, is in Nova Scotia,
we used to have around between 3,500 to 4,000 auditors.
And after an election, under the Election Act,
you have to provide an auditor to do an audit on your election spending,
even though Elections Nova Scotia does their own audit.
But there's also a stipulation in there that says if you don't spend over X amount of money,
and I think at the time it was $1,000, that on your campaign that you don't need an auditor.
Well, the problem is, is the province in 2021 changed the laws that said if you want to audit an election,
you have to take a special course.
Well, nobody wanted to do it because auditing elections is a nuisance because nobody ever has
professional bookkeepers looking after their books.
So nobody wanted to do it.
We called, there was only the pool went from 3,500 to 4,000.
down to 142, we called all 142, not one of them. We represent Bobby Lee Dillman to
get his name on the ballot as an independent. Now, there was a couple of independents. We have an
independent in Nova Scotia, but she was already, she already had an accountant that had
worked for her when she ran for the Conservative Party. And so when she left, she had an accountant.
Every accountant, we said, no, it's a conflict of interest. We don't want to do it. We don't
have the time, you're on your own. So section three, the charter says you're not allowed to put
any kind of a market impediment in front of somebody running for office. And the government knew
it was there. And after the Bobby Lee Dillman case, we went to the Attorney General here in,
or Department of Justice, and said, we need an investigation into what happened. And we went to
elections, Nova Scotia. And rather than rectify it with eight months to go to an election,
instead of rectifying the situation by the time, you know, we got our complaint into them,
they decided to capitalize on that and called a snap election.
And they broke their own legislation.
Tim used to have called an election eight months early,
and we didn't have everything we needed in place.
So basically cut the movement off at the knees.
And it's funny at the time because in 2023,
we had our largest force fire in the province's history.
And I got involved with the team of retired guys that said,
even where I am right here, I had our gear packed. We were on notice for evacuation. I said to my wife,
this is crazy. I'm a professional firefighter. I'm going to get some guys and see if we can, I knew
they were short an end and I said, let's volunteer. And for five days in a row, I contacted the
Premier's office and the Minister of Natural Resources and Fire Headquarters offering for our team
to be anywhere as they want it within four hours and we'd give them 18 to 30 days. And for five days
in a row we got turned down. And meanwhile, we had $200 million worth of fire damage in our
province. The most expensive fire in the province is history. And I got pissed off and I sat right
here behind me and I did a video on what had happened. And I said that people are being lied to.
Here's what the province did. Here's what they turned down. And that video went viral. It got over
176.4 million views on TikTok, not counting other platforms, just on TikTok. So I started getting calls
from all over the world saying, what hell's going on in Nova Scotia? What's going on with fires in
Canada? And so this all circles back to what was happened here in Nova Scotia. We had a
DEI hire who was making decisions inside fire control. And he was the guy who made the decision to get
rid of the towers, get rid of hell attack, get rid of the burning system, and change a bunch of rules.
And by the way, after my latest book, Don't Die on Wildfires come out, he's no longer in charge.
he's been I think they didn't actually fire him Sean they gave him a one and a half years to go work on a
project don't show up at the office and and that way you can get your full retirement but the issue
being was in my book I talk about what's happening in firefighting all across Canada and all across
the US like right now this year we had over 55,000 wildfires in Canada and the US
55,000, buddy.
And I can go into almost every one of them
and find you someone, somewhere
who was hired based on
diversity, equity, and inclusion who made a
catastrophic decision
that either gets people killed or gets your homes burned down.
So that's why I wrote that. That book basically
is a manual for people to Canada. Go buy a copy
of it. You can get it on Amazon.
And everything that you need to do,
you can start now so that next year you don't have to worry
about losing your home in the wildfire or in and up
dead.
When you
in the book
you know like
that's the book there
yeah yeah yeah is it
like is it kind of like a manual
things you can proactively do
so that if a fire ever were to occur
yep you know is it like
it's step by step every paragraph
here's the thing is here's the thing about it
I can tell you step by step what to do
but I also explain why you need to do it
every step you need to take the equipment that you need to have
how you need to train, every aspect of what you need to do to protect your family that the government
doesn't tell you. Now, BC, in the last year, has up their game a little and they're starting to add
some of this information. But what they don't tell you is there's a good chance when the fire crew
that's supposed to show up to save your home, they might be DEI hires. They might not know what they're
doing. They may have a boss in charge of them as a complete moron and an idiot. And, you know,
when I watched what was happening down in the Palisades in California, I watched it over and over
again. You know, a woman had been hired because she was pretty, and I think she was Mexican,
and she was hired to make sure there was water supplies for fires, and in the middle of
of extreme fire season, she okayed maintenance on a reservoir that was needed to supply
water to the palisades while it was burning. They didn't have water. Guys were turning on the
fire hydrants. There was no water in them. And so what happens is, it's like, it reminds me
of A.N.N.
Atlas shrugged.
Yeah. Everybody should read that.
Like when I was reading it,
man, was that last summer or was it summer before?
I can't remember now.
But I listened to that on Audible.
And I was listening to it and partway through them like,
we're living this right now.
Like parts of this are just, I mean,
it's talking about railways, right?
Obviously.
But what's happening,
like it's either systematic,
meaning they're doing that on purpose or the roosters come home to roost, so to speak,
and the DEI is starting to play out, and that's what A&RAND.
I mean, different terms, different things, but I mean, that's what the book is literally talking about, right?
So here's a point that people need to understand.
Everything you're seeing is calculated.
What Mark Carney's doing right now, he's doing it with scalpel-like precision.
He was installed to do some very specific things to Canada.
right, like destroying our trade relationship with the U.S.
Irregardless of where you sit on that, it's absolute nonsense.
I mean, what I looked down there, saying that we're open war.
So what happens is, and here's one of the things I watched that happened with Kovachon,
and one of the big things was for most people,
most people probably haven't heard of the Tavistock Institute.
The Tavistock Society was started right after World War I
because the government's had to figure out how can we control
how millions and millions of people think so that they'll support government initiatives.
And the Tavisnock Institute sprang from that.
And what they did was they took government money and a lot of it was military money.
And they perfected, how do you run psychological operations to mind control millions of people?
Well, first of all, you have to control the press, which the federal liberal government controls what most people now see in Canada.
And then they repeat the same message.
and the bigger the lie, the less likely a person is, is to question it.
Right?
It's like, so what's happening is I'm looking at people all across Canada right now that are totally brain rushed.
People that normally would be relatively intelligent people.
And you can ask them questions and how, you know, how did you come to those assumptions?
They can't even answer them.
They don't know.
So everything that I'm looking now is a combination of two things.
If you strategically wanted to destroy anything, all you have to do is make sure.
that the area is saturated with DEI hires, diversity, equity, inclusion, people who tick the boxes,
and they're not qualified to do the job, but they have to, by hiring policy, hire them.
Federal government, you have to hire the DEI people.
Provincial government in Nova Scotia, you have to hire the DEI applicants.
So when those people get in, it's not rocket science, stupid people are going to do stupid things.
and then what you can say was, well, none of this was malicious.
This just appears to be incompetent people.
But if you're a brilliant strategist, the best way to accomplish that
is to make certain that idiots find their way into positions of power
so that they can do what you want done, and when it blows up,
you can blame it on them being an idiot.
I know I'm trying to, I'm oversimplifying it for most people,
But the reality of it is, and so I look inside the policing system, right?
Every single white shirt right now has got to be woke.
You cannot get promoted if you're not a woke tired.
In the military, you cannot get promoted unless you're a woke tired.
I mean, you look what we have for a general who's running Canada's military.
Good luck convincing me that's not a diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Higher to have our top general be a woman who, the information that I read said, you know,
she's been curled up in a ball crying when shells are going off somewhere.
She's the last person that I would follow in the battle anywhere.
And, you know, I saw a picture last week of crates of tampons
that have to go into men's bathrooms in federal institutions across Canada.
And so you've got to ask yourself, okay, why does the Canadian military,
why is the Canadian military short on 17,000 recruits that they can't get?
Why is Canada now hiring 17,000 mercenaries from other country,
but they're looking preferentially for people with military training
to come to Canada to fill our military ranks, right?
And they're going to fast track their citizenship
and they're going to be allowed to bring their families.
So that's 17,000 people with zero loyalty to Canada
that if they're given an order to go to Sean Newman's house
and kick down the door because they don't like what he's posting,
You think they're going to question it or are they just going to follow orders?
They've got zero loyalty to Canada.
I mean, even the people we have right now, they're everywhere.
I'm just talking about law enforcement, right?
There's goons everywhere.
That's right.
I mean, as far as coming and kicking down a door, I think we've learned through COVID, people just follow orders.
Well, yeah, even where I live here, all of my neighbors would have ratted us out if there was over five people here.
And people literally lost their minds.
I just watched how many people do I know now that would have turned in Anne Frank during World War II.
And I can name you hundreds of them.
And some of them are family because we weren't allowed to attend certain functions.
There was a lot of different things.
Right.
So my wife worked in cancer clinical trials.
She started questioning everything right away.
She said, none of this makes sense.
And because I had worked in government for 29 years, constantly lying to people.
people I know, well, the government's lying about this one. And now I'm finding out that the
Canadian military ran SIOPs across Canada and did SIOP training during COVID. One of the things in
Nova Scotia, they did a SIOP operation here where they said that wolves were running around
down in the valley. Yeah, remember that story? And they said, sure, yeah, we're allowed to do it. And then
people forget that Justin Trudeau changed legislation shortly after being in office that makes it
legal for the government in the news to lie to you outright.
Obama did it down in the U.S.
Same thing.
There used to be legislation in the U.S.
that news age, the government couldn't knowingly lie to you.
And same thing in Canada, well, they lifted that.
They can now knowingly lie to you and they do.
And I did it with natural resources all the time.
Can you say like while you were there you lied to the public?
What were you lying about?
Well, it was different things.
It would be like, well,
I'll give me an example, when coyotes started attacking people here in Nova Scotia.
You know, for 10 years prior to that, our department was constantly telling people that coyotes don't kill deer.
And I'd be on the side of the row with binoculars down at Cape Breton and Lake Ainsley watching coyotes kill deer on the ice.
And the biologists continually would say, no, coyotes don't kill deer.
Well, here in Nova Scotia, we have a hybrid coyote.
That's, you know, it's mutated with a grey wolf that migrated east from Ontario.
And we have bigger coyotes and they exhibit a lot of things.
But we would lie about that all the time.
Well, it's nothing really to worry about.
It's not coyotes.
Well, tell that to the girl who got killed in the highlands.
Another person was attacked here just recently in the highlands again by coyotes.
In one of my last years at work, I forget what the number was,
but I think we had 18 incidents that year of coyotes attacking people in one form or another.
And most of it got kept out of the press.
And we continue to say, no, there's nothing to worry about.
Why?
Why? Why not just say, like, yeah,
there is a problem with coyotes.
Because then you have to come up with the solution.
Then they didn't have a solution.
The solution was not popular with the voter base.
Every single thing that happens in Canada is based on polls.
Everything that happens in Nova Scotia is based on polling numbers.
And the polling numbers, if they say, well, you know,
if the anti-hunter groups don't want you killing coyotes year-round,
by the way, there is legislation.
Now you can shoot coyotes here year-round.
But even the gun rules and the legislations are tight enough
that it's everything since Port-a-Pick.
has made it more difficult to do anything with a firearm in Canada.
Right after Port-a-Pick, I think it was only three days later,
there was 1,500 different types of firearms banned in Canada.
And the only one that was used in the Port-A-Pick murders
was the woman, Police Mountie, who was killed,
and Wartman, you took her pistol,
and I think he used her a pistol to kill a couple other people.
That pistol is now not allowed to have it.
But every other firearm that Wartman had,
It was either legal to use in Canada, or most of them were, and he had no permits to have any of it.
And he had been reported multiple times to the Mounties for having, and you probably heard that in the book.
And why did the Mounties take any action?
Because he was working for them.
I highly doubt that in the books they eventually get to an answer on this.
Is there any speculation on why he did it?
Yeah, what it appears, he was one of the people that he shot,
was involved with the Mexican cartels.
There's a high probability that his cover was blown.
If your cover is blown and you're working,
have anything to do with the Mexican cartels,
one day they'll find you under a bridge skinned alive.
Or, you know, they'll take a video camera
and cut your head off with a chainsaw and then put it on the internet.
So I believe, based on my conversations and the research I did
and reading both Paul's books,
that his cover was blown, the Mexican cartels,
you can't hide from them.
I don't care where you're at.
I don't care if you're in a hut in Greenland.
They'll have actually hunt you down.
And he knew the jig was up.
And that's why he was cashing out and making plans potentially to get out of Dodge.
And then he went, you know what?
I'm not going to, I'm not escaping this one.
And so he just said the mountain.
And a lot of times what happens is in the UC when you're no longer involved,
and if you become, if you become, you're no longer an asset to them.
You become expendable.
You're expendable.
And they'll blow your cover to get rid of you.
They'll just make sure, yeah, words out, words out.
Why would he, like, why would he kill, like, some of the people, like.
Well, some of the people were just a distraction.
It's like, you know, some of the people who shot just walking along the highway.
Yeah, well, and, and like, I don't know, like, Paul does a good job of explaining why he killed certain people.
And how method, like, it wasn't his first rodeo.
Well, not only that, the Mounties knew that he had a complete mocked up Mountie vehicle.
right and in a UC operation when he would get pulled over for speeding right a
mountain he would pull him over and he'd go up and even write him a ticket and why they would do
that because sometimes that would be your method of contacting somebody like if you're getting a
ticket pulled over by the Mountie maybe the Mountie's there just say here we're giving here's a message
we had no other way to reach you wasn't safe to reach you by phone or any other method
Mountie walks up and while he's handing you a ticket, he handles, he hands you details on a piece of paper.
People have no idea how complex it is, how so much infiltrated, I mean, everybody goes around thinking,
oh, no, everybody's here trying to protect us. No, man, people are trying to protect their own ass.
You got to remember, the average Mountie now is making six-figure income.
And they're not going to do anything to jeopardize it. It's like, you know,
I was up for the first week up at the truckers, at the truckers protest in Ottawa.
I was there for the first five days.
And then afterwards, some of the stuff that the Mounties did.
And I remember watching Mounties saying, man, we loved it.
We got all kinds of overtime.
One guy said, how do you think I paid for my pool?
This is great.
Right.
So what happens is the force is full of DEI goons now who won't question.
They have no morality.
The morality is a paycheck.
They do exactly what they're told.
They don't question it.
Just too much money involved.
You sure don't paint a great picture of where we're at.
Not that I, I mean, not that I think we're in a great spot, let's say.
Okay, we'll look around.
So when was the last time somebody, when was the last time a politician went to jail in Canada?
I assume you have the answer.
I don't know of any of them that actually went to jail.
So the last big case with Mike Duffy, when he was a, I think Mike Duffy was a senator at the time,
And he was charged with 32 counts of fraud, whatever it was.
In the end, all the charges were dropped.
And the government had to pay him close to a million dollars in damages.
And since then, the only guy I know who stepped down for anything major was Bill Mourneau.
And there was one other guy there, too, who loaned $96,000 to Mike Duffy.
And that was his own private money.
And they made him step down, too.
I forget what the guy's name was.
But what ends up happened irregardless of what you do.
I mean, you look at politicians and they're a minister and they lose billions.
And people forget how much a billion is.
So they lose thousands of millions of dollars.
And nobody is held accountable.
You know, I look at the last environmental minister.
I mean, you know, I'm watching Mark Carney just appointed his wife to be in charge of erosions.
Something to do with erosions.
Why am all the stuff in erosion?
Yeah, but she's not making any money.
It's a free position.
Well, when Mark Carney was working with Trudeau as his top economic advisor,
it was a free position too because that way they can't say it's a conflict of interest.
But they're the ones steering everything behind the scenes.
It's like when the Aga Khan took Justin Trudeau down there and give them all this stuff,
he said, well, I'm a lobbyist, but I'm not a paid lobbyist.
And even if you get caught, you can remember, if you get a fine in Canadian politics
for ethics violations, what is it, $250?
Most politicians, if they dropped $200 wouldn't bend over to pick it up,
it costs them more in their time to gather up the $2,000.
bucks than to pay that fine. It's a joke. So you and I, I mean, we'd be beaten on, you know,
we'd be embarrassed with a tin cup begging for bread and water and a gray flannel suit.
And politicians, they just shrug, and today they won't even resign. Who resigns now?
Nobody. It doesn't matter what they do. The level of corruption is staggering. That's why the government
shut us down on that independent, what we're with the independent movement in Nova Scotia, what we were
trying to do because we have the solution. And I remember when I Reiner Forma called me before they
set them up and put him in jail and said, he said, if you can make it work in Nova Scotia, it'll work
in every province of Canada and you said it'll work at every level of government. So imagine right now
in Canada if we had 10 independents tied down on a performance contract that had to do exactly
what the constituents told them they have to do. And any other votes that come up today, electronically,
you could have every constituents in your writing that would get an indebted.
it a separate ID and they'd be able, you know, he's saying, look, I'm here in the legislature
now, I need to vote on this. How do you want me to vote? He send it out. Everybody gets a notice
on their phone and the constituents tell them, here's how you're voting. And if you don't, we're
going to sue you for breach of contract and fire you. I love it. Who's the guy who got arrested?
For politics? No, no, for, you mentioned when you told them this idea, he said it would work everywhere.
Oh, Reiner Fulmec. So Riner Fulmec. So Riner Fulmec.
was the lawyer who, do you remember when Volkswagen got caught lying about their emissions?
He did a major class action thing.
They were saying that they got caught, it was a multi-billion dollar class action suit, and he won.
And then he did another major class action suit.
It might have been against one of the major drug companies.
And it was another multi-billion dollar suit.
Well, when COVID first started, he wanted to, from a legal perspective,
have Nuremberg II style trials for everybody involved.
in the deception.
Where's he from?
Germany.
He's in jail right now.
What's he in jail for?
A couple of people inside his firm set him up for fraud,
and he's fighting the charges,
and they had him in solitary confinement, man, I think, for almost two years.
They just went, you're not coming after us for fraud that we did.
That's the other thing, right?
And because of the way the legal system is,
I'll give you an example.
Like, even in our case right now,
we're on, we're beyond day 670.
When we filed in 2008, five days before the election to stop the election,
we couldn't get it in front of a judge.
And it was an emergency application.
2008?
No, sorry, 2020, in 2024, in 2024, that was an emergency application.
And we didn't get into the election, I think, was November 26th or 27th.
and we got into court December 5th,
and we wanted to make sure that we would get a decision
so it could never happen again.
And now we're in the day, over 670 days later,
and not only do we not have a decision,
we haven't been able to force the government
to give us the full record.
And we need the record to look at all the correspondence
that took place and say,
how did you guys make this decision?
Because we're alleging malicious intent by the government.
Everything they did was done specifically
to alter the electoral process here in Nova Scotia to keep independence off the ballot.
Now, a few other independents got through, but they were part of a party that was disbanded,
and the auditor who was working for that party said, I'll stay on and look after these two people's independence.
The problem being was those independents were in it for themselves,
and they didn't want to sign a contract where they could be held accountable.
And that's the difference.
And Reiner said, I've run this by every lawyer I've talked to since I've talked to, Peter,
said if you can make it work, it'll work in the UK.
Any place with a parliamentary system, any place where, you know, you're not full totalitarian,
it'll work.
You'd be working here federally right now.
I can tell you right now, we'd have a trade agreement.
We wouldn't be paying what we're paying for fuel.
You've got to remember, as of September 18th, I saw numbers that said,
I think it's 43.2 cents on every liter of gas goes to government taxation.
The level of corruption is staggering, man.
I'm looking at the amount of money since Carnegie's been.
in an office he sent over 13.4 billion overseas. That's 13,400 piles of $1 million has been sent
out of Canada. While right now one in four families in Canada relies on a food bank. And someone's
got a lot of convincing to tell me that that's normal. The problem is what I call the Elbosos
or the people. And you know what? I know that's being harsh on them, but it has to be harsh.
because a lot of people just went, no, I'm doing good.
I need to make sure that my pension's taken care of.
Well, Mark Carney's tapping into our pensions now.
He's making investments.
He's back stopping all these crazy investments with our pensions
so that the companies that are making investments are running zero risk.
It's absolute insanity, man.
And when all is said and done, he's not a politician.
He'll resign and he'll move down to the U.S. where his wife lives
and his kids go to school and they live and where he has another house.
And we're 91% of his portfolio, his investments are in the U.S.
And that's real goal.
And people say, well, you know, I'd rather have him.
He's a banker.
How old are you, Sean?
40.
Okay, so I'm 68.
So when I grew up, we hated bankers.
I was around when interest rates went to 70% and it was the bankers who did it
and the bankers who were seized people's homes.
And I've seen what bankers do.
Bankers not your friend, right?
I mean, if you run a couple months behind on your market,
mortgage, they're taking your house. And they go, well, no, it's not me. Well, yeah, it is you. And the
worst bankers in the world are central bankers. And Mark Carney's a central banker. He's the worst of the
worst of the worst. I mean, you cannot get somebody worse in politics than a central banker.
You mentioned he's doing it with precision, a scalpel. I would agree with that because I was just
having a, you know, a couple of podcasts before you on the show, I was having different conversations.
and one of them was with Josh Udall from Halifax here.
And we were talking about it.
And I was having a discussion with him back and forth
because he was talking about younger people are voting,
leaning more, the polls show they're leaning conservative.
And I was like, that's funny because everywhere I go,
talking to conservative people,
there's more and more conservative people
who think Mark Carney's doing a good job.
Yeah, well, here's what happens.
It all depends.
where do you get your information?
And nine out of ten new sources in Canada,
and everything mainstream,
tells you repeatedly,
Kearney's doing a good job.
And the level of gaslighting is just astronomical.
But the guy who perfected it was,
I'm trying to think his name.
He was the propaganda minister for the Nazis in World War II.
And those guys?
Goebles?
Goebles. That's right.
And so, and he was an expert at it.
And all of that,
all of that science and everything that they did is being used on the Canadian public right now,
same as the terms. It's when Carney comes out, it says, we're at war. When you're using
language, we're at war and we've been attacked, that's a straight-up sci-op. If you're,
hearing that in regards to trade, then either it's a sci-op where the person telling you is
mentally unstable. And I don't think Carney's unstable. I think he's brilliant. And he was,
he was installed here in politics to do something very specific.
And specifically, his job is to bring in the New World Order.
And I read a book one time, and if you get a chance, another one when you're driving,
is get a copy of, it was a book written by a CIA whistleblower named William Cooper.
And it's called Behold a Pailed Horse.
And he talks about the New World Order.
And he said, there will be no amount of money that will restrict them,
or that they won't be willing to spend to bring in a new world order.
And the new world order means that the U.S. cannot control the economy.
Right.
And the U.S. is determined to control the economy.
So here we are in Canada, saddling up to the communist Chinese,
and CISIS is telling us it's the greatest threat that we have in Canada
to our national security is the Chinese Communist Party.
Here in Nova Scotia, two of the top three people inside elections,
Nova Scotia, are Chinese, first generation.
I did an interview with Michelle Shinu Katsuya, who used to be the head of CISIS for the Asiatic Rim.
And he told me that every Chinese person in Canada whose first generation is obligated to report back to the Chinese Communist Party.
All of them. There's no exceptions.
Now, that's not coming from me. That's coming from this guy who was one of the top people at CIS.
And then another guy, Gary Clement, who used to be the head of proceeds of crime for the RCMP.
I interviewed him as well.
And Gary said the same thing. He said the Chinese interference here in Canada is staggering.
And then Carney has made a decision. He's going to pony up and become trading partners with the communist Chinese over the USA, who has their own Charter of Rights and Freedoms, not Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but Constitution.
And then you look at the legislation that Carney's bringing in to shut down free speech in Canada.
Even what we're doing here now, I'm willing to bet if all the legislation goes through you, we won't be able to do it.
what we're doing now within two years in Canada.
Where do you think we're headed?
Like if you know like you don't strike me as a
guy that um knee-jerk reaction or flies off the handle right?
Like I've interviewed you several times Peter and you may get animated
but it comes from a background with you know.
Knowledge. Thank you. Yeah.
So I don't make statements oddly right.
And before I try to, I try to do as much
research as possible. And then I look at opposing views too. Like I've got some good friends that
are liberals because I want to know how are you thinking. How do you look at things, right?
Yeah. Right. And some of it is just, I'm at the point now that I, within two minutes
in a conversation from a person, I can tell if you're a sciop victim or not. It doesn't take long.
A few key questions and it's like, okay, I know where this is going. And you can't talk somebody
out of that frame of mine. So I'm looking at the numbers right now, and I have to give Gerald
Butts credit. Gerald Butz was one of the top advisors for Trudeau. He was one of the guys actually
who's instrumental in getting him elected. He used to be the head of the World Wildlife Fund. Now he works
at the Eurasia Group with Mark Carney's wife. And they get paid, big bucks to recommend here in
Canada how things move politically. And so Gerald Butz was the guy initially who come up with the
idea to pay CBC an extra $700 million to make sure that they Trudeau won that election.
And they just told them straight out, if we win, you get an extra $700 million.
And so every year that budget keeps getting bumped up.
And everybody at CBC knows who butters their bread.
And if you watch it, the level of bias is staggering.
And then I look at CTV here Atlantic.
They were threatened economically here in January.
They were looking at going bankrupt and all of a sudden there's no talk of that anymore.
And now I watch the left-leaning bias on their nivarius.
news, it's just staggering. So the issue is, I, you know, I lean conservative, but I'm not a
conservative. I'm looking for somebody an independent with a contract because all the parties are
different wings of the same bird. Irregardless of what happens, people have to understand that
multiple levels above the level of PM are making the decisions. You know, even Pierre-Poliev,
irregardless of what is intent, Sean, for example, if you ran tomorrow and you had the greatest of
intentions. The second you get elected, you're told to sit down, shut up. If you mind your P's and
Q's two years from now, you're going to qualify for a pension. And if you last six years, you get a
full pension. So for the first two years, your job is to do what the party tells you to do and not
question anything. Now, they'll allow you to say some things that you put on a facade of you're
actually fighting. But in the end, the power structure behind the scenes is so embedded and so
crop, it can't be fixed in its current form. So what we're working on here with the independent
initiative, to us, it's either you either make this work or Canada's going to turn into a full
totalitarian country here within the next 10 years. I don't even recognize the country that I grew up in
anymore. Literally, I'm 28 years older than you, buddy. Right, I got a boy your age, I get twins your
age. And I never thought it would get this bad. I thought more people would stand up. But you've got to
remember the generation of fighters, the real scrappers, they're all dead now. All the leftover
World War II guys, the guys who wouldn't tolerate any of this stuff, they're gone. The Korean
war guys, they're gone. You know, and then a lot of the guys that Canada has sent over since,
there's no way they have big enough numbers to stand up and fight back against the government.
I know that interview that you just did with Jeremy with second sons.
The issue is the numbers aren't there.
My take on it is that the United States will not allow a Chinese military proxy on his northern border.
I don't know what's going to come from that.
I don't know either.
But, you know, if they decided that something was going to happen, it would happen within an hour.
And there's nothing Canada would be able to do about it.
Well, to me, it's already...
or I don't know if I should be so doom and gloom about it already happening,
but it's going to be economics, isn't it?
Well, the economics of it is Canada's not going to be able to withstand the economic destruction
that's been unleashed.
I mean, most, I mean, you take a look right now, Sean.
I was down in Cape Breton on the weekend, and it was $2.3.3 for one liter of regular.
Diesel here now, I think it's around 270 or 280.
It was 223 when I was on Newfoundland.
223?
Mm-hmm.
For diesel?
For a liter of gas.
For a liter of gas.
And when I talked to just everyday Joe's, they were laughing at him and said,
you think it's a bad? It got up to 2.30 a couple weeks ago.
Yeah.
I'm going, well, that's only 7 cents more, but regardless, fair point.
Well, it's insane because what it adds up to, it's over $9 a gallon.
Yeah, I know.
And then you're looking at diesel.
And what people don't understand, most people don't understand in the grocery store,
the price of diesel, the trickle down, is going to crush, crush us.
on grocery prices. It's not just groceries. A lot of people still commute. You know, if you were
commuting back when it was a buck 20, a leader, and you were paying 450 bucks a month to commute,
now you're paying 900 bucks a month. Where's the extra 450 coming from? Because that's after
tax dollars, right? So people don't realize what you pay for gas, you pay with after pet tax dollars,
and government takes almost 25% of every penny that we spend right now on gas. So the trickle now
from that is going to be catastrophic. And then I watch us, we've given over two,
26,000 piles of $1 million to Ukraine.
And Ukraine is not even a NATO country.
Why didn't we do that to countries that were being attacked in Africa and all these other places?
And then I look at Christia Freeland.
Most people aren't aware that Christianer Freeland's grandfather was a Nazi from Ukraine who ran propaganda for the Nazi party.
And Christianerfeelan was kicked out of Russia when she was 21 for being a spy.
Matter of fact, her code name was Frida.
So she got the boot.
And she's the one over there now who's handling thousands of millions of Canadian taxpayer's
dollars deciding where it's going in Ukraine.
And the Canadian taxpayer is never going to see a printout where the money went.
It's not going to happen.
We just send another $100 million to pet the Palestine.
So who's going to get it?
What government is running Palestine right now?
Who's going to be responsible for that $100 million that we're spending?
So what happens is, is I can't fix most things, Sean, but there's a few things I'm good at,
and I don't mind speaking up about them. So I would say down the road probably, the Redneck
Conservative, there's about 50 different pieces of literature in there that anybody can pick up and
read. And if you read some of those books, it'll build a foundation for you. Well, you'll start to
learn right off the bat, either this is propaganda or it isn't. And even my wife, when she worked in
the hospital, she didn't have time to do the research. She'd be listening to the news coming
home. And she was falling victim to propaganda, which is hard to do married to me.
But the reality of is that now, now that she has time, and does, you know, when she sees
something, she does some research and she doesn't use Google, right? Because, like, Google is
completely co-opted. I mean, I look at things on there, and I use AI for a lot of stuff.
I've watched AI change in the last six months and starting to go full politically correct already.
It's just nonsense.
And I don't know where to go and I don't know what to do.
So all I'm trying to do is teach people a little bit at a time and each one teach one.
And I'm trying to get stuff out.
And that's the reason why I do paperbacks because if you get a copy of that, that one can't be censored.
Once you've got it, if you had one copy, a hundred different can be shared with 100 different people.
They can never censor you on that.
And, you know, today it's modern day book burning is what they're trying to do right now with online censorship.
I mean, the government is setting up a committee of more woetards who are going to decide what we should be allowed to listen to or what news we should hear or what we're allowed to say.
You're going to be heavily, you know, you'll be heavily censored.
I am all the time.
Oh, I am all the time, too.
Yeah.
And so here's the thing is, how do you reach out to one another?
I mean, you get a real good message.
I don't know how that one on fire slipped out and got to so many people.
Like, 177 million.
That's a lot.
So a lot of people saw it.
Like I said, I was getting calls from, man, I was getting calls on fires from Australia,
South America, New Zealand, Germany, Denmark, UK.
I think I even got a call from Japan, of all places.
Like people are going to know, like, what's the real deal?
And the real deal is we're being lied to.
And what they're saying is it's climate.
Well, that's just absolute nonsense.
The number one cause of fires in Canada, what do you think it is?
People.
Lightning.
Okay.
It's number two people?
Yeah, it bounces back and forth between people and lightning.
And lightning, if lightning is one of our biggest causes for force fires, you would think
rather than get rid of fire towers, why wouldn't we have more?
No, you'd, I mean, but this is where any common sense answer?
It's gone.
It's gone.
It's out the window.
Yeah.
And it's out the window.
I mean, like when Jasper and all that was going on, or BAMP, I remember interviewing a whole bunch of
forest management people because they were talking about how they're not allowed to go in and you're
like.
And manage.
And manage.
And I mean, I've talked to a lot of people about that.
And as soon as I get to like the second one, I'm like, oh, my God, if I was an evil genius.
This is what you do.
I would eliminate all the things that are going to prevent force fire from getting
out of hand, which is forest management.
It's your fire towers. It's the rapid response teams.
Then I would put in DEI morons, your woke darts.
So when they get in a position of craziness, they can't figure their way out of the paper bag.
Yeah.
And people get killed.
And now you can go, look at how bad climate change is.
And you sit back and then you go, well, climate change and you ratchet up the fear and everything else.
And you created the world we live in.
So now we have fewer fires, but they're always bigger.
And if you want fires to become bigger.
This year, last year, we had two major fires here in Nova Scotia as well.
And we had another one this year.
Finally, they got rid of the guy, you know, the woke tired who was looking after stuff.
And there's going to be a good guy in there now, guy actually I work with.
But the reality of it is, is, like we said, common sense said, you should have increased all your firefighting capacity, not cut it back.
And so, you know, with no rap teams and with no helotag teams, over my career, we kept a lot of
Most of our fires under 30 to 50 acres because we're on top of them.
Bang.
If conditions were bad, we would post helicopters in areas.
We had rapid attack.
They don't do that now in most cases.
Even here in Nova Scotia, listen to this one, Sean.
So last year they were crying saying, we need water bombers.
We need water bombers, right?
So the biggest water bombers, the best water bombers in the world right now are being made in Alberta.
And I think it's called a Viking 515 and replaces the big CL-415 water bombers.
They were best.
you know, they were state of the art back in the day, but they're getting old.
And Canada's not getting any of them until at least 2032.
As soon as Europe found out these things were available, they got all, they're all going
to Europe as soon as they're built.
And those are the best water bombers, basically, that you could get.
And we were not getting any of them until at least, okay, at least another six, seven years.
And the federal government had said we're going to, you know, we're going to hire a thousand
more firefighters and they didn't do any of the stuff they said they were going to do.
And so what happens is we have lightning strikes.
Now don't get me wrong, there's technology that can be used.
But ultimately, when a fire's in a remote area, you need a hell attack team on the ground
of setting up hose and starting to do water drops.
And here in Nova Scotia, rather than get, we replaced our helicopters over the last 12 years,
not one of them is capable anymore of delivering a hel attack team.
And we just got a couple of new ones.
And then we got four fixed-wing water bombers.
that can't water skim.
So we have four fixed-tween water bombers now,
and they can't skim off a lake or a pond.
They have to go back to an airport
to get filled with water and fuel.
And the turnaround times are catastrophic.
It's absolute insanity.
So what happens is nobody can talk about it
if they're working in the field.
And that's why in the book I lay out
every step here's what you need to do.
But I also tell you what's going wrong
and how you have to get involved
politically behind the scenes
and talk to people
and say, we're not spending $90 million on bike lanes when we have subdivisions that only
have one road in and the same road out. And if there's a big fire, people are going to get trapped in there
and die. Let's put a road in so there's two ways in and two ways out. Or let's get woke and put in
$90 million like here in Halifax they want to put in bike lanes. And what happens is nobody's
paying attention at the local level. And we have people here in our city council here in Halifax
that are just, they couldn't run a stapler.
A question for you from afar, you know, it's Alberta.
I've been traveling across the country and I've been asking everybody their thoughts on
October 19th, an Alberta referendum on independence separation, whichever word you prefer.
But regardless, there's an independence referendum coming up.
What do you think of that?
Well, I can tell you, if Alberta becomes independent, Nova Scotia becomes a backwater
overnight. We take in a three and a half billion dollars in welfare payments, and I'm calling
them what they are, welfare payments from Alberta. That's our whole health care budget here in
Nova Scotia. And if Alberta goes, we lose that welfare payment and our system collapses.
It's that simple. P.I. collapse. Same thing, Newfla. Anybody who's taking in any big payment,
same thing Quebec. The only reason Quebec stays in Canada is because the, you know, the billions and
billions that they get from Alberta. When that tap gets cut off, Quebec will be gone.
Same, the Alberta leaves. So in that thought process, there's no way they're going to let
Alberta leave then. Well, I don't think it's up to them, but the amount of skull dougary,
the amount, the amount, you know what, let me put it to you this way. Even what we're doing in
Nova Scotia, the board of directors on INC, NC doesn't travel in the same car together. Say that again?
board of directors for Incey, the independent Nova Scotia initiative, we rarely, if ever,
travel in the same car together. And I'll let people figure out. Yeah, I know what you mean.
I just wanted to make sure I heard that correct the first time. Well, and then here's the issue
with that. There will be so many things happen that'll be underhanded to try to upend what's
happening. It's no different when COVID was going on. There was a blockade. It was it
Coats, where the blockade was. So the Coots blockade. And the RCMP went out on heavy equipment
and sprayed foam, insulating foam into the gas lines on heavy equipment that they thought
what might have been able to be used for road blockades. And they got away with it.
Man, you got to remember, goons getting paid six figure who love this stuff, they don't care.
They're just out there for the excitement. And they will follow any order. It doesn't have to be,
doesn't have to be legal. When Pierre Trudeau was involved in the FF.
Q crisis back when you were a kid, a guy working for the RCMP set off a bomb on Canadian soil,
and they used that bombing for impetus to be able to bring in the military action.
I think it was 1967.
And, you know, we went under military, same thing that they did with the truckers.
Yeah.
State of emergency.
So the state of emergency.
So the state of emergency.
But that was precipitated by a bomb that was set.
off by a guy working for the AirSCMP.
Buddy, there's nothing off the table.
That's what people in Alberta need to understand, right?
I mean,
if I found out tomorrow
that somebody was leading that was killed in a plane crash,
to me,
it'd be kind of like looking into what happened to Leon Jodry.
Yeah, if you go all full circle back to the...
You just start going full circle back, right?
And I just said, well, that doesn't add up.
How did Leon's dogs not die in the same house?
from an oxide poison.
And Leon Jodry is the kind of guy
who, if he thought you were screwing him over
and he was going to kill himself,
he'd went and killed you first and then killed himself.
Man, I drank a lot.
I was that a lot more than one barbecue with Leon.
Leon was not the kind of guy to kill himself.
I don't care how depressed the stuff he was
or what they had him on.
Now, Paul Palangal will say,
look, I talked to him, he was pretty depressed.
I know all kinds of people that get depressed don't kill himself.
And I know the whole thing doesn't go away after that.
And since then, now we're at, what, 2,300, 2,300 different firearms that have been removed from public consumption since Portapec.
And all said, well, no, we have to do this, right?
1,500 within three days.
Explain that one to me.
And you can't.
So I recommend every Canadian read both of Paul Polangos books.
Yeah.
And if you're in any place in Canada that you run the risk that you.
you may end up in a fire, I have to be evacuated.
If you want to be able to come back and find your house still standing,
I mean, there's a couple of key points in there that within one hour and no money,
you can up the chance of saving your house from burning down by over 90%.
And what's that?
Clear the first five feet of anything around your home.
Make sure that it's called your number one defense zone.
For the first five feet around your property,
you can't have anything up against your house that can burn.
You can't have lawn chairs.
You can't have a barbecue tank.
You can't have grass that goes up to your house.
You can't have shrubbery around your house.
91% of homes don't burn down from open flames.
They burn down from embers that fall from the sky in weather.
Like a fire sometimes creates its own wind.
And embers can drop two, three, four miles out ahead of a fire.
And the embers, if they drop on your roof where you have leaves and gutters or anything that's flammable,
and that gets right up close to your house.
That'll get up under your side and burn your heavy.
house down, even if it's embers that just get in vents around your house. I mean, if you, you can
take a roll of duct tape and with a roll of duct tape and a rake and an hour, you can do more to
save your house than probably anybody in your neighborhood's going to do. Every one of your vents
needs to be sealed. You need to cover off your garage doors along the bottom, so no no sparks
can get in at anything. And that first five feet needs to be cleaned up. And anything that's
flammable needs to be in the second zone. So the first zone is zero.
to five feet, the next zone is five to 30 feet, and then the next zone is 30 out to 100 feet.
Well, in that 5 to 30 zone, you still shouldn't have things.
You should be out around 30 feet with stuff that's flammable.
You shouldn't have any fuel, no propane tanks, none of those things.
There's a ton of it.
But this is made for the average guy.
Sure.
And once again, that's on Amazon.
Show the book again, though.
Yeah, it's called Don't Die in Wildfires.
And it says a 29-year wildland firefighters battle-tested guide to save your
save your home and family when flame strike.
And it's just a common sense book.
But the stuff that's in there will get banned in Canada
because the government does not want you to know
that these big firefighters and everything we're dealing with
are not a result of climate change.
That's just flat out nonsense and lies.
That's the stuff that I told people for 29 years.
Well, I appreciate you sitting down with me.
What we are going to do is we're going to switch over to substack
for some bonus questions.
But, yeah,
Thanks for having me in your house and doing it.
Hey, buddy.
Any time.
