Shaun Newman Podcast - #13 - Brothers Roundtable

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

During an epic 4 1/2 day roadtrip to Vancouver my three brothers, dad, nephew and brother-in-law discuss current hot topic issues including: -1st round of NHL playoffs - Steve Yzerman to Detroit Redwings  - Carolina Hurricanes endgame celebrations  - Game of Thrones Predictions 

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really appreciate all you guys listening and giving me some feedback. So Brad Nate wrote on Facebook was a great listen. Thanks for the banner guys. And he was talking about Dwayne Perlet, who I had on last week. And Dwayne's got quite the story. I really suggest you go back and give her a lesson. He's been all over the place and such an interesting guy. Next, Darren Nasby left a note, just finished listening. Great work. Also on Facebook, on the Facebook page there. And he was talking about Gord Redden. Gordredden we did two or three episodes ago, and he went on from the Weyburn Red Wings in the mid-60s

when they were in the farm system of the Detroit Red Wings and on to Pro from there. So he's got quite a story, and once again, a really excellent listen. Thanks to the two guys for reaching out and giving me their thoughts. Anytime you guys interact, like really appreciate it. If you're enjoying it, let me know. I'll get you a shout out on here. If you're looking to interact, obviously you can do that on our Facebook page,

the Sean Newman podcast or Twitter or Instagram. Any of those ways, please. And then podcasting platforms allow you to rate it and you can subscribe there and then leave comments as well. So any of those ways, guys, really appreciate all the feedback. Now, on this week of the podcast, I had my brothers, so my three brothers, myself, my dad, my nephew, and my brother-in-law, took a road trip to Vancouver and back in four and a half days. And along the road, we hooked up the mics in the van and discussed the NHL playoffs, Steve Eiserman, Game of Thrones, lots of different things. So I hope you enjoy, and without further ado. Welcome to Sean Newman Podcast.

We are currently in a van. This is the van edition of the Brothers Roundtable. Number two, we started in a van Wednesday night. Seven of us picked an eight up once we're in Vancouver, but essentially seven of us drove to Vancouver in a day and a half, spent a couple days there and are now just passing through Eminton. So essentially 3,000 kilometers in four and a half days, a typical Newman road trip.

Currently, we're going to try and rattle off this roundtable while we're in the van, and Nate is out of beer, and he looks pretty darn rough right now. He's got no smiles for us, and he would just like an alcoholic beverage. So he's going through a little bit of withdrawals. But I'm going to start it off, I thought, with the stories from the trip. So we'll start with Mr. Harley Newman. One second before we get into that, I just got one big shout out to the legendary The legend himself, Mike Crawford, another failed Don's Cup attempt.

Somehow, Vegas found out that Crawford had Vegas in his big playoff draft. He was leading. He was on the way to victory. And a bad call from the refs, and Crawford is without for another year. So a big shout out to the legend. Charles, what do you got from the trip? You know, so we took four days here. We've gone to Vancouver, go and visit our cousins out in Abbotsford.

And the last time I remember, a lot of them, I was a lot smaller than what I am now. So just fantastic. That might be an understatement there, but anyways. Fantastic. Go ahead and listening to Uncle Bob's stories. Man, did he ever have some absolute gems? Auntie Judy as well, who was one of the people that was actually in the perfect storm, if you've actually ever seen that movie. But that's only a touch of the iceberg as far as her life goes.

It was fantastic. Her and her husband, Andre, and then also the man of steel himself, Uncle Ralph. So a big shout out to them because it was absolutely fabulous. And to me, that was one of the best highlights of the entire trip. I think we planned on being there for two hours and we ended up being there for almost four and a half. Dust? My story that sticks out in my mind is we're driving. I'm actually driving through the mountains and we hit some road construction and it's kind of hot and we're kind of stopped.

So we started opening windows and we got a sliding door in the van. So dad slides the door open. But as he's about to slide it open, someone says, just make sure. sure nothing falls out the door we don't want a garbage going out we're in a national park two thousand dollar fine on littering two thousand dollar fine for littering that opens a door harley moves his foot and kicks a beer can out of the door and it rolls down the side of the road ting ting ting ting ting as we're pulling away and everyone goes shut the door are you doing sean's uh the peace story oh yeah well i'll tell that one too we're on our way to our cousin's place

and we're in rush hour traffic on a Friday afternoon going towards Abbotsford and we take kind of a back way and Sean's really got to take a whiz and he keeps asking how long until he get there and I'm driving like Sean will get there when we get there but he can't hold it any longer and there's nowhere to go so he takes a Gatorade bottle in the back and does his best dumb and dumber impression filled up two bottles Who knew you could fill up two gatorade bottles? Yeah, well, yeah. It was funny because we had to scramble to find him the second one because it was getting close to the top just like in that dumb and dumber.

Here you go, Harry. And the funny thing was, is all along the odds were on Nate. But Nate did just fine. And it was Sean that ended up breaking the seal in the van. Bladder of the size of a pea. Brent. I think it was probably when Steve J. Nate and I decided to go up the gondola instead of run up the damn mountain.

And we knew we had made a very wise decision when we're sitting there listening to Sean's little video of him panting. And as we take a sip of our drink, take a bite of our chips, we're like, we made a very wise decision. Dad, I got three. The first one happened.

We may not get the rest of the show. We're pulling into Irma. What have we been on the road? An hour and a half. And Harley's driving and we do 120 through Irma. And we just finished saying don't hit the brakes hard because the lid's open on the cooler and it's full of water. And Harley's doing 120. Everybody starts riding me all at once.

Everybody says it's a 50 kilometer sewn. So he absolutely hammers on the brakes and spills half the water out of the cooler in the back. when we flood. The second one was being in Vancouver where there's absolutely nothing but traffic. We don't know where we're going. We're following the GPS and the lady on the GPS. And a guy sitting in the passenger seat

is trying to tell the driver who is Dustin at the time, what's going on. And this is what's going on. I'm trying to get the radio on, because these guys have to have tunes. So this is what the tunes sound like. Dad, I can't hear you. And Dustin's driving saying, what?

Take a right turn here, Dust. Harley's saying you need to turn left here. And Dustin's saying, what? And they won't turn the damn music down. That's number two. And the third one was, is we're coming into, we decided that we're going to stay in Jasper. We stop on the outside of the park there entrance,

and we pull up in this van. and the guy says he's staying the night in the park, yep, we're going to be in Jasper tonight. And he says, how many of you are there? Jay says seven, and he gave us a funny look. And then he says, we give him the 20 bucks. He gives us our ticket to stick on the window, and he says, have a good time.

After we left that, we're thinking, that's such a strange thing to say. But anyway, pull into Jasper on the west side, We're driving down Main Street, and one of us notice they are gay flags down the middle of the street and say, why are there gray flags down there? So Sean gets on his phone, and it's the 10th annual Gay Pride weekend in Jasper. So we started talking amongst ourselves, what's it going to look like? We're a close family, but we're not that close. what's it going to look like for seven guys to get out and walk to the hotel and say,

have you got a room? We left and drove to Hinton in a snowstorm. I think I'm going to hop in front of you, Jay. Yeah, go ahead. I was thinking, you know, we were talking about it there as Nate contemplates life in the back. What this trip would have been like if Nate had it been in. And Nate doesn't want to get on here and tell a story. He's a little nervous, I guess.

But I was thinking the first night, first day we drive down there to Calgary. We spent a night in Calgary. We had two of our buddies houses, the legend Mike Crawford, and Marty Britton, who I hear is currently stranded in Mexico. That must be a tough thing. Real rough time. Yeah. So we do what we do at Marties.

We fire up the PS3 at 1 in the morning or PS4, and we start playing the Spangler Cup. And we lose the first game 8-1, so we cut in 8. Me and hardly go on to win the Spangler Cup and don't go to bed until 4 in the morning. And Nate goes about, you know, 2.30. And Nate's rousing the troops at 5.5.30. And off we go again. And I just think, I don't know what this trip would have been like if Nate wasn't here.

Because every morning, he's the first guy in the van, big smile on his face, that big mullet of a haircut. I believe it's called salad. And we, he gave us all a bit of energy that at times we didn't have. the other one I was thinking was when we we're driving we've driven a long time now and we're on our way back we've dripping like

well this entire trip's over 3,000 kilometers so you kind of get the picture and we got Jay in the driver's seat and we haven't been seeing a cop we haven't been stopped and all sudden uh-oh we got a cop and we're all scrambling right

nothing's really going on in the van but at the same time I got a cop and we're all whatever right and so he comes up and he starts talking to us and he gives us a warning. Wow. We get 10 feet past them. Bad boys comes on, or bad boy. Nate throws on bad boys, bad boys.

What you're going to do? What you're going to do? It's cranked, though. It's cracked. And then we all had to crack up here for the road because, I mean, we just escaped with a $200 fine as Jay went 180 through 50. It was 98. through a 70.

Sure. Throwing it out there. It wasn't 120 through a 50. That's for damn sure. No, and I will say I did, you know, I did some of the driving and by far Nate was our best music guy. We had a couple other guys that put their hand in there and it was very average. So Nate would get the tunes pump and everybody get rocking.

Cheers for Dad to grab a beer and away we went. That's the last compliment I'm going to give Nate on the podcast, by the way. So Nate, you sure you still don't want to tell a story? He's staring at me saying no. Okay. So Jay. I got a couple. First of all, everybody likes to do the thing where you get iced.

So that's the Smyrna off ice. Here's a little shout out to Smyrna off ice. Maybe they'll throw something at Sean's podcast. And of course, Nate gets that rolling right away because at the start, nobody's thinking. Everybody's just pumped, hey, I want a beer. So Sean just... Just before we get into this. So to preface this, if you don't understand what getting iced is,

that is to somebody asked for a drink. and you cannot hand them the drink. They've got to take the drink. They've got to physically grab it. And if they grab it, they've got to then turn around, and it's a smear and off ice. They've got to slam it. You're supposed to go on one knee and slam it, yeah.

100%. So the first one that's got is Harley, because he asks for a beer, very innocent, pumped the bee here. Nate slides an ice into his jacket pocket. Harley grabs it, ice. Done. second guy i believe was uh i don't remember when dust was that's because i never got iced oh dust

didn't get ice either smiling eh so actually it's kind of funny because i think the four older guys didn't get iced and the three younger guys got iced they just iced each other over and over yeah this is true so uh so then we get to the house and it's got a pool in the backyard Sean's jacked right I don't even think he's got his clothes in his room or anything he runs onto the deck Peels everything but his shorts Goes to the diving board Jumps in, pops up Nate goes, and it's in the evening

because we didn't get there until I don't know Dusk. Yeah, dusk. And Nate says You want to bear Uncle Sean? And Sean You betcha it. He's pumped me in the pool. Nate tosses him an ice. Sean grabs it, not realizing it's not a beer. He does an absolute Hail Mary throw. I dive, catching him all

Pump, right? Woo! Bobb! Oh, fuck. And then, so then on the way back, now everybody's got to get Nate. And he's hard to get, because he's a pro. So what the boys do is they actually peel off a Bud Light can. So you just have the Bud Light tin that goes around the outside. Peel off the top and bottom. Peel off the top of bottom.

If you don't know, Brunkey Brent. He always carries around a knife with him. So I hand him an old beer cat. And Brent goes, how are we going to get Nate? How are we going to get him? He said, we got to trick him that it makes it look like it's a bud light can. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, give me a bud light can.

And I'm like, okay. So I hand him an empty bud light can. He proceeds for the next like half hour to carefully and meticulously cut the top and the bottom off of the bud light can. And then slide it over top of a smearing off ice and then gives it back to me and we put it in the cooler. and just wait, right? And an hour goes by, and at the time, Nate is drinking these green tea, ice tea things. And so he's not even drinking but light.

And we're gonna, ah, man, sitting there waiting, right? Sitting there waiting. Well, an hour passes by. Finally, Sean goes, Nate, grab me a beer. All right, sounds good. Cracks it open, grabs that Bud Light that was sitting right on top. And grabs it and pulls it up and starts looking at it. and all of a sudden, Brent and I just, yeah!

And he literally grabbed it, and the sleeve fell off with the Smyranoff ice, and boom. He was iced. And so what does he do? Well, you can play at that game, so he puts the sleeve back on it. And he passes, because remember, Sean wanted a beer. So he passes it up to Sean. Sean reaches back because it's a Bud Lake can, and they got them both at the same time, and they both had to drink it at the same time.

It was awesome. My other story is, of course, we couldn't have a little sports involved with the four brothers. So last night, we get to the hotel and we got an extra 20 minutes, so we get our shorts on down to the hot tub. Happens to be in the pool, there's a nice, you know, come with a double ring water slide. So we get looking at that. Next thing, we have Water Olympics. So the first round was everybody had to slide down the water slide and make the biggest spot possible. Now I know what you're thinking, that Dad would probably make the biggest.

one. But no, it was my brother-in-law Brent who got a five out of five from the judges and won the entire group, one the biggest splash. I think he splashed on the far windows. And so then, so he's won that gold. So then we slip into, okay, now you're going to go head first into a four-foot pool and you can't make a ripple, right? The guy who makes the least amount of splash with the speed and the distance, right? Very Olympic. I want to preface that too by saying the speed and the distance. So, you know... At least splash speed. Again.

You'd think that I'd probably win that one, but I actually skipped on the top of the water. Yeah, you know, Dustin made a lot of splash, and he looked like a rock skipping over the water. So about the third or fourth guy was Sean, and he was so into it. He thought, I'm going to just pick up all the speed, and I'm going to dive straight down like a real... Like a rocket ship, baby. But there's only four feet. So he comes up. So it looks like when he went down, his wrist hit first on the four.

on the bottom, which pushed it aside so that it rolled over his shoulder, which hit. And when his shoulder hit, then his head banged against it, he had a mark on the top of his head in his forehead, looked like he should have broke his nose, somehow escaped without that, and somehow he cut himself below his nose. Am I correct with that? And he's leaking. And he chipped the tooth he found out the next morning. And he's bleeding.

And shall we say, who was the smoothest going into the pool? Not going to guess it, but yours truly. It's built like a big walrus, just slipping rain in. It's all fun and games until somebody comes home bleeding. At that point, I think that is almost exactly like how we would end off the Christmas out on the pond. Nobody's done until somebody's bleeding. We're not going home until we're done. Everybody back to the rooms.

Okay, so in sticking with water, I thought we might go to our resident water polo expert. Brand Herring. It is very difficult to get. a wet suit on a horse. There you have it, folks. We started off last week with the first ever trade, sign, buyout. So I thought, you know, I'd like to poke a dust with Taylor Hall. So here's the game.

He's got to buy one guy out. He's got to trade for a guy, and he's got to sign one. And so the three names I'm giving you today, Dust, are Taylor Hall, Jordan Everleigh, Ryan Nugent Hopkins. And I got to decide what I'm going to do with each of those guys? That is correct. You're signing Taylor Hall. Buy out.

We'll say Jordan Averley. Because I like the Nuge better. And the Nuge, I guess you're trading then. Do I got to do all three, or can I... Yeah, you've got to do all three. So you're trading Ryan Nugent Hopkins. You're signing Taylor Hall. Yeah.

And you're buying out Jordan Eberley. Sure. Do I got to... Or can I say sign all three? I can't do that. I got to have... No, no, you've got a one each. Right?

Haven't you ever played that game before? I can't buy a lute each? No, you can't buy out lucci? No. Wait a man. Would you like a... Can I trade Brandon Manning? Is that part of this?

No, you've got to trade for Brandon Manning, right? That was a great trade. By trading away Jordan Emberley, you're getting in return, Brandon Manning. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, you traded Newgen Hopkins. You're getting Brandon.

So, in other words, Dustin just got a great player that's going to be a great player that's going to hurt all the time and his room sucks. Is that correct? Pretty much, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm, I'm buying out Taylor Hall. I'm going to sign Ryan Nugent Hopkins. You're going to buy out a Hart trophy winner? Yeah. It's going to, my room is going to be great. And instead of, instead of, I'm going to trade Jordan Everly for Sean Horkoff and get Horks back in the room because Horx was always the best. He was a room guy, remember? He was so, so saw on the ice and everything, but they always kept him because he was a great room guy. Don't you remember that? So my dress room is going to be solved. You can put up 76 points.

New Year one time. He did. Okay, let's go to notes from the first roundtable. I thought this was interesting. We did predictions. Somehow hardly escaped from doing any, so we're going to rectify that today. But Jay said, the one Jay got right is he said, Calambas has balls they're all in. And I would say that they're doing pretty good right now. He also predicted Chicago to make playoffs. He then went one for four on his predictions. He said Montreal, out, Florida in. So, well, he's one for two there. And then he said Chicago win and Colorado, Ohio. But I did say with Florida that if Florida didn't make it, the coach would be fired. Of course their coach is going to be fired.

But I predicted that. Dust, what did you predict? So, Dust, I didn't predict anything. I gave Dust a 0.5 out of 3. Point five. He said, Columbus or Montreal is out. Well, I guess, I mean, if you're going to do a prediction like that. Hey, you know what we could say?

You know what, I bet you half the east is out. Hey, that's a great prediction, eh? It's less than half, Jay. And then he said, Minnesota and Colorado out. So nobody had any faith on Colorado. Oh. So Harley did point out of three. So we aren't doing that great.

And me and Harley just kind of... Isn't that 0.5 out of 2? Say anything. So we're going to rectify that today. So let's go into the first round. I thought we'd start with a, like, first round playoffs. Isn't that the best time of year? Yes.

I told my wife when the first game of playoffs started, this is the best day of the year. Hockey playoff start. There's nothing like the beginning of the first. first round of hockey playoffs. Actually, I actually tell my wife that it's not the first day of the playoffs, but draft season, hockey draft season going into the playoffs is my favorite time of season. Not Christmas, no, hockey draft season.

You know, that's the one with Carolina. I went hard on Carolina. Man, that game 7-0-T goal, baby. I've got them in two drafts, plus I bought two Calcutta's that were Carolina. It's like he's playing poker and he needs like a runner-runner. You're this good, guys. When you're this good. Never a doubt either.

So first round, I thought this playoffs had a little bit of everything. What I love about the NHL playoffs compared to any other sport is I think any team, and I think it's proven every year. As soon as you make the NHL playoffs, any team can win. Now, I'm not saying that a couple aren't a little longer shot than others, but you look at the first round and all the upsets, like holy moly, right? Like parity. For the record, I went two for eight in the first round.

Luckily, the one team I was right on was Carolina. I went one for eight, and first time all four number one seats from any division and any North American sport have all lost out first round. Who's your one, right one, Harles? Boston. Went on a limb there. I got two out of eight. The Islanders? Which, you know, it's such a tough year because you pick the islanders,

so you're feeling so awesome that you were that smart, and then you're two for eight. So you're really not that brilliant. Seeing, I just claim of fame is I picked Columbus to beat Tampa Bay. I walked into our family, Don's Cup draft. Everybody was laughing at me because the year before, I traded all my Washington for Nashville, and while the guy I traded it, too, Washington wins the Cup, he wins the Don's Cup. I look like a complete nutter moron. So I fire all my scouts.

I walk in with not knowing anything. Jay offers up a Panarin or Timmy Panarin for a fourth I go you know what Columbus can do this All the way of the bank All the way Right You know what's funny about that Sean

As we did her snake draft You pick second overall And took Kutra No Kutrov He was just hedging his bets Right That's right Some way he's gonna win

And he's gonna be able to come on the podcast Go look how smart I am You didn't go all in Sean Like me and Carolina though Yeah well you also went two for eight Dustin If they don't pick up their socks I went two for eight

But I picked the one team Nobody's like the legend, though. Old Mike Crawford. Okay, so let's go through the first round. Tampa Bay, Columbus, right? Let's start there. Tampa Bay Columbus. I don't know.

You know what? It seemed for, the one thing for me in the first round was the momentum shifts. And in that Tampa Bay Columbus series. Is there a momentum shift? Yeah. Tampa Bay was up three nothing. Three nothing on game one. Game one.

And then all of a sudden, the switch went on with Columbus, and Tampa just, I don't know if Tampa just went, yeah, we got in the bag just like the regular season and just could not ramp up. And it was almost surreal to watch that. Is Harley driving with all the rumble strips? Anyway, sorry about that. Well, what do you think? You're sitting there, you're the GM of that team. You just had the, what did they tie it?

Tied the regular season record? They were number four all time. Four all time? Yeah. Right? So you have this amazing regular season. you walk in the playoffs and any way you slice it they get four straight yeah i don't think you blow it up but obviously you know everybody keeps pointing back is it i think they need a winner proven winner

like luch each that would really help their dressing room the thing with a team like that though is and dad's always said this to us before is you have to lose some games right yeah but it's not their first year though harles you need to know when you need to pick up your socks and get going and i felt they just drifted into the playoffs and never really had that strong competition going into the playoffs where they had to dig down and actually put forth some effort that to me it looked like they coasted into playoffs you coasted into playoffs and now you're trying to ramp up well it's already too late everybody else is you know you look at Columbus they're fighting for their lives to get into the playoffs they're already in that playoff mentality Tampa Bay was not in playoff mentality well it's it's funny because you look at the

the league the last three, four years, and it's all about speed and skill, and all the small guys can play and so on and so forth. And yet we get into the playoffs and the softer teams, Tampa Bay, Calgary, I'm going to throw Pittsburgh in that one, all of a sudden they're not doing that well. Tampa and Calgary are your top two teams regular season when everybody doesn't want to get hurt because they want to pull under four or five million. Then they hit the playoffs and all of a sudden everybody wants to win a cup and the bigger teams and the physical teams all of a sudden comes to the forefront again. Yeah, yeah, no.

The whole, look at Carolina's not a big physical team, though. Yeah, there was another momentum change. Like, that's almost reverse. I don't know if it's because Ovechka almost came apologetic afterwards, or, like you said, Dust, woke Carolina up. But you're up to nothing. You're winning in game three, and Ovechka absolutely pile drives the kid, and then Carolina wakes up and wins a series.

I wonder with Carolina, they're a young team. I haven't been in the playoffs a whole bunch where they just woke them up. All of a sudden, like, oh, crap, this is not, you know it's not the regular season where we skate around and make plays and pulling money and it got kind of mad i wonder if that's what happened yeah it's strange and then and well we haven't even talked about the Vegas well wait a second i got a throw out that i got a newfound respect for rob brindamore that guy is a coach what he talks about and everything is awesome if i played for him i'd be scared of him rob the bod baby rod the bod like he's a scary looking dude lindress wasn't scared of him

Let's go to Vegas, San Jose. Vegas is up 3-0 with... Anybody know the time for the time? For six minutes. No, I was 10 minutes left or so. 10 minutes, right? Yeah, it was exactly about 10 minutes. Like, it was like just 10 and change, I want to say.

And then the draw goes, he gives him a cross-check in the... It's a weird play. In the chest. In the chest. I mean, if it was me, it would have just bounced off. It wasn't in the stomach. A little higher than that. A little higher than that.

And then he falls into another guy. What's above the stomach? The chest. And then he twists off of him, and he falls hits his ice. conkeys himself, and then there's, we're thinking a pressure cut to his head, and all of a sudden he's bleeding everywhere. Yeah. Well, and the refs originally didn't call anything.

Then they called it two. Then they'd five in a game. Five in a game. So now San Jose... It's tough for the riffs, though. Really tough for the riffs there. It is a tough position for the riffs. Nobody wants to see anybody get injured like that.

And, you know, you've got somebody that's getting carried off. Freak accident. Yes. But now the NHLs come out and apologize to Vegas about it. Yeah, what are you going to do, though? But if you were them refs, okay, I understand. Nobody wants to see that. But if you were them refs and you didn't see it, which obviously they didn't, they didn't.

It happens quick, right? Right. It happened quick, but they didn't see it. So, let's go through the scenarios. If they only give a two-minute penalty, okay, they give a two-minute, and they're wrong that there shouldn't have been a penalty, nobody's going to argue that much for two minutes, and it should not change momentum enough for San Jose to get that many goals, right? But if it, but if it, but, Dad, nobody can hear you at the front. So if, but at the same time, if they call only a two-minute penalty and it should have been a five, they would have went.

Jeez, that's a terrible play, but what happens? Well, now Eakin's getting suspended from the league because how many times you've seen where there's been a non-call in the ice and the guy gets suspended because of something he did on the ice? And they're still not in trouble. But for them to call a five-minute major in that game. Yeah, but how often do you get four goals scored on you on a five-minute power play? But we're talking about the rest for a second. I don't. So what about a double miner?

What about two minutes? Well, I'm just saying, right? The reps are in a tough spot, guys. Seriously. That's a really tough spot. Things happen quick in hockey. He kind of snapped up. It's possibly he could have got it in the head, right?

Yeah, possibly he didn't. And nobody's seeing it, so give them a two minute, carry on. Here we are. Okay, but how did they collapse and give up four goals on a five-minute power play? We're living in right now where everybody is over-cautious, over safety, over everything, right? So they don't want this to morph into something. They're trying to protect the players out there as much as possible. It doesn't matter about the rest, right?

And here you get an exact thing that happens where it's the worst case scenario, and they look like it is. Well, congratulations, society, it just cost Mike Crawford the Don's Cup. I will say this, is mistakes happen, and there's no way to get rid of every single mistake. They're just going to happen. Well, just for the listeners, Dad, who's at the front, who just started talking about it. But his idea was, and it's not a terrible idea.

Tell the mic. Dad, let me talk. All right, just talk. We got a mic. We can hand it to him. Dad, tell us what you think. How many times have you seen the refs gathered together as a for some to talk about a play or, you know,

like if they shoot the puck over the glass or whatever, what happens if they just kind of delay, they take the guy to the penalty box because they figure there's going to be a penalty. They shove them in the penalty box. and skate away, they don't actually say how many minutes he's got, and that gives them time to huddle. The one guy watches the big screen and says,

you know what? He cross-checked him in the arms. And then the guys in the finger saying, how many minutes? And you say, it's a two-minute penalty. Okay, but here's the thing with that. You're talking about reviewing everything, essentially, Daddy-O. You're talking about putting it on the big screen,

but what happens if they don't put it in the big screen? What happens if they show the wrong angle? you're talking about reviewing every single penalty. Well, it gives you a bit of an idea dust. Yes, but if you don't have all the camera angles, then you don't know. What happens if they don't show it on because it's the home team and they don't want to know? Or sometimes they won't show penalties, especially stuff like that, because they want to make sure before they get the fans all riled up, right?

So they actually won't show certain angles until it's all over the time. He's a tough job. You're going to make mistakes from time and it's the way it is. To Dad's point, though, he's not talking about every penalty. He's talking about a five-minute major. That's right. Okay, so what are you talking about? Reviewing major penalties then?

No, Dad's saying if he was a ref, he'd be a little bit smarter than the average bear. And he'd just take a look at the big screen. And he'd go, okay, guys, put him in the box. Let's sit here and huddle. I'm going to put one eye up on the screen and see if we can get a better idea what's going on here. It's not a bad idea, really. Anyhow, that was the craziest game seven I've ever seen because San Jose was done. They were done.

They were done. They were done. Dead fish in the water. And they got four. And I actually went to overtime. and Vegas could have still won it. Yeah, could have. And it was unreal.

It was unreal. To see a momentum shift like that, I mean, I've seen it happen in other games. You know, a team gets up to nothing. Coach calls a timeout or an injury just slows everything down and the momentum shifts. But like you said, 10 minutes left. These guys are professionals, too. Everybody's making millions of dollars.

These are the best players in the world, and that can still happen to them. Unreal. Probably the best 10 minutes of hockey I've watched a long time, too. Crazy is for sure. Okay. What do you think about, let's go to Toronto Boston. Toronto again. Man, they're a good team. For telling what Toronto Boston, you're talking about what Toronto's going to do down the road, don't you?

Like, how many years have they lost to Boston last year? Same thing. Well, I don't know if it's in a row. Is Toronto a little soft too? Well, you know what? And there you go. But now, Codry's not. Goddry takes a bad penalty and boom, gone. And I'm not saying it cost them the series. But it changes the look of it.

Definitely doesn't help them. So let's see. So now we're at Toronto, Pittsburgh, Tampa, Calgary. So four of the teams for sure just because they're soft. Okay, you can call Calgary's first line soft, but they got Kachuk and they've got, I don't know. They got anyone in their best players kind of disappeared in that. Oh, no, absolutely.

Their first line, Monaghan and Gujarro. I don't even remember hearing Monaghan's name during those games when I was watching. I heard Guadro every time he gave it away. Well, and Guadro had Johnny Hockey had the breakaway twice. in the last game, right? He almost felt bad for that. Some of its luck, though, because the funny thing about all that is you talk about soft players. Remember when we ran Jordan Eberley out of town because he was soft in the playoffs,

couldn't do anything? And then he goes over to the New York Islanders, and he's tearing it up this year. And he is not a hard hockey player. He's more of a soft hockey player. But we didn't have Eberley on the team to win the playoffs. We had Eberlead on the team to get to the playoffs. No, no, but in the playoffs this year, he's actually performing. That's true.

He's lighting it up, right? So you can say, well, what are they going to do? Get rid of Johnny hockey? Well, maybe, maybe not. Maybe he had a little bit of bad luck. Is Jordan Eberley the top player on that team? No. No.

Right. So he has a bit of room to get away from some of that stuff, though, as well, right? So what are you saying? Trade Johnny Hockey? Well, the islanders traded Tvers. I'm just saying, though. And I made the blouse. I mean, Goudreau, they're focusing on Goudreau because he is the top player on that team.

Yes. Jordan Eberley, he can slip out the back door and guys kind of forget about him because he's not the top line, though, Harals. Actually, you know what's funny? It depends on you look at that because in the Islander Pittsburgh series, their fourth line of Matt Martin, Sezikas, and Clutterbuck was playing 18 to 20 minutes a game. Top line got a lot of points there, though. Yeah, but their fourth line was the guys grinding it and battling against the other team's top lines.

They played a lot of minutes. How about the Islanders, Pittsburgh? I can't believe that Malcon and Crosby got like nothing. the whole, why they lose force rate, they got nothing. That's unbelievable. You're talking about two of the best players to ever play the game. Anybody, but Melkin didn't make the top on hunters. Yeah, well, that's a bunch of crap.

We both know that. Nobody says that coaches aren't that important. It's about the players is missing the boat with that one. Trots goes and wins a cup in Washington, gets handed a team where they trade away the best player, and then they go and upset Pittsburgh in the first round. So on that point, you've got Toronto and you've got your top player

and he is not playing 20 minutes a game. Anything to say about that then? Because Matthews, towards the end of that game, was not out every second ship. The only thing is for me is, you know, I can remember when I was coaching Junior B, I had a guy who was a really good goal score but if I overplayed him,

he tired out too quickly and then he became where he was useless. And so I haven't watched Toronto enough to sit there and say, yeah, you got to have Matthews every second shift. Maybe Matthews can't, maybe he's not as, you know, yeah, great, he's out there and he's their best goal score. But if you're playing him every second shift and he slows right down, now he miles will be nobody out there. So you're better off to get him out there every third shift and be effective. Even in game seven with it on the line? Well, I'll tell you, I really held him back until five, six minutes left, maybe I guess.

And I mean, maybe Babcock with four minutes left should have been. but they're down 5-1 by that time. I don't think Matthews is a playoff performer. He should trade him for a defensive D-Man, which Toronto really needs. Second pairing. Adam Morrison? Absolutely.

How much is sticking with Toronto? How much is Marner going to get paid? He's got to get as much as Matthews, doesn't he? Right around there, doesn't he? I think if I was his agent, I'd be saying, like, I mean, after watching everybody play the last two years, I've got to think he's got to match him for sure. So who's gone?

Yeah, who's gone from Toronto? I was the GM of Toronto, who I would trade would be Marlowe. I would find any way to trade Marlowe and not retain cap from him. I'd try and find a way to trade Zytezev. And then you've got to make a tough decision on Gardner, but you're going to need some D-Men. Right now you've got two D-Men and you need four. And if you let Gardner go, well, and you trade Zyte-Save. So what you're saying, though, is you're not getting rid of any of your forwards?

Because you're going to... I just said Marlowe. I'm trading Nielander. Because I think Neelander gets you the best person back, but then with Neelander, I'm focusing on a defenseman. So, aka Jacob Truber from Winnipeg or maybe a guy like Slavin from Carolina, but somebody that you can stick right in. Slavin's not getting traded. The other thing, too, with that type of player. The other thing, too, with Neelander is he is the smallest out of, between him, Warner and Matthews, right?

So, you know, when it comes to something like this, they're all. going to be up there in money anyways. I think your smallest guy, I think probably. I mean, it's not like he's a Johnny Hockey out there, and he's running around and tearing it up. So I think he would be down. You know what's so funny about that team, though? Everybody talked about the Chicago Blackhawks having $21 million in Canaan Taves.

And look how many guys over there is they had to trade away and move their lineup around just to accommodate. A ton. And now if they sign Mitch Marner, whoever they get rid of, They're going to have three guys at $11 million each. You watch the roulette wheel in that place. Dubus is going to have to be an absolute master of cap going into this offseason because he's got to make some interesting moves.

I wonder what Phoenix would give you for Austin Matthews. You're not trading Austin Matthews. Oh, I'm just saying. He's from there. Would Phoenix give you everything and their left hand? Well, if you could get all, Ekman Larson and a first round pick, and Baird-Haten, would you do it? No.

Would you be a better hockey team? No. No, you don't think so? Matthews is that important. Matthews is one of the best young players in the NHL. And top five best player, young guy in the NHL right now. Top five, so can you get the value out of there? Now you're going to say, oh, you get a defenseman, which is great, but...

Anytime you trade away the... When you trade away one of the best players in the NHL, you're going to lose that deal. No, 100%. And, you know, because with the orders having McDavid as the best player in the league, because they're having troubles with depth guys and stuff, they can't make the playoffs. And so Toronto has got all these great young guys. How did Chicago win the cup, Jay? Chicago won some of them cups before they got the big money.

They had a bunch of guys that were Hall of Fame caliber, essentially, and they surrounded them with low-money guys. How did Pittsburgh win the cup? They had a bunch of guys that were Hall of Fame caliber and surrounded them. how's Toronto going to win the cup? You've got to have some Hall of Fame caliber guys. And you look at their lineup, they got Tavares, Matthews, and Marner. You've got to make sure that those bottom end guys are the right guys.

And that means you've got to have the right thing. For sure. It was making those right choices. Because if not, you turn into the Edmonton Oilers where you can't even make playoffs. Sounds like we got our first prediction of the day. Hey? What's that? Toronto's next cup winner dust?

Sure. There we go. There we go. You heard air first in the van. I'll give you this. I'll give you this, is that I think Toronto is the next Canadian team to win the Cup. That's what I think. To say that they're going to win it next year, that's a little bit right.

And I'm going to say the Winnipeg Jets are going to be the next Canadian team to win the cup. All right. Well, go around the, who do you guys think? Okay, Charles? I'm going to take a lot of flock for this, and they absolutely frustrated the fuck out of me this year, but the Edmonton Oilers. Like, I'm a die-hard oiler fan. I still believe we have the best player in the world. We do.

50 goal scorer and dry saddle. I'm going to say the Emmington Oilers. But if Bob Nicholson keeps Keith Grexky and doesn't go out and hire us another GM, I'm turning into a Vegas. But they lost in the first round shots. I know, but I'm so fed up with the Oilers man right now is driving. The way Crawford goes, you'll trade all his Vegas guys at the end of this season because they lost the first round.

Probably for all the Carolina guys. I think that's where I'm hedging my bet there is they bring in a GM that's actually going to right the shirt. Does Dad have a prediction in the front? Who do you think is going to be the next? Canadian team. I can't say Toronto because I don't like Toronto. Either Edmonton or Vancouver. You can't pick two.

We can all sit here. You know what? I think it's going to be somebody from the West. I think it's going to be between Calgary, Winnipeg. Calgary. Yeah, that was my brother-in-law. So we just opened the door and threw them out. You got to make him win the next cup from Canada?

No. No. I will say this. I think Toronto wins the cup in the next three years. I won't say next year because that's, tight, but also in the next three, I think they win the cup. All right, you got it, you got your prediction, you're saying Toronto. We get it loud and clear dust.

Okay. Does Toronto keep Babcock? Yes. Yes. Yeah, I think, they're not changing the formula there. They're trying to generate a story about Dubus and whatever. He's fine. All right, we got three serieses left.

St. Louis Winnipeg. Winnipeg comes in. They're a cup favorite. Like, that just seemed to be the theme this year. I thought that was a thing. I thought that was a pick-um series, though. St. Louis started a week and came on strong. They got a solid four groups, solid defensive group.

My goodness is a team in the NHL since January 1st. What the heck happens in game six when they're getting peppered 30 to like 10? Like, where was Winnipeg in that? I don't know. You got to ask some serious questions that Winnipeg team in an elimination game and not show up. Winnipeg seemed just lost this season, period. And I had them in my Don's Cup draft, and so you got a role with what. you got because I had two of the top players in the team. But in saying that, to me, they never

really seemed right all year. Last year, going into playoffs, they seemed like they could win the cup. They just, they were rolling on all cylinders. Everything was just going right. This year, it just, everything seemed a little bit off. I don't know what that is, but something is not 100%. Can I say this about Winnipeg? When I look at their defense in Bufflin, Lufflin seems like that guy who gets the big hit and the big shot, but isn't great at playing defense. And I think that kind of summarizes in my mind, the Winnipeg team. It's tough to get past bad defense because it always comes back to haunt you.

But we'll have three drop in forwards making $33 million in Toronto. Well, and that's Toronto's problem right now. They don't have enough defensemen. That Muzon trade was a great one for them, though. They need more defensemen. But when I look at Winnipeg's team, I see that as what's holding them back. Is that what's holding Toronto back? Absolutely.

It just seems like they haven't learned how to... It seems like last year was a year, and then they win that series, and they lose a tough one to Vegas. And this year they come in almost with expectations. They're going to get right back there, and that's the first thing that hurt you. And that's how I think I see in Winnipeg,

that learning curve of learning how to win in the playoffs to get to where you can win the cup. It reminds me of San Jose, it reminds me of Washington Capitals. And sometimes... Kind of like Carolina's learning curve? Yeah, well, we'll see. But it doesn't happen.

in a year or two. Sometimes these things take three, four, you know, look at Washington, six, seven, eight years there. Yeah, Washington needed to add a lot of pieces around Evchkin to finally win. But like they said, they never got away from their core. Their core was Hopi, Vetchkin, Baxter, Carlson. Hope he wasn't there in the start. He came a little bit after the fact of him. Yeah, fair. Into Vetchkin's career, and they added Kisnets off and Baxterum, and those guys aged a little bit and got it in there. What's that all just?

Given Harley the bird. That's all right. How about Dallas, Nashville? I had Nashville packed. to go to... I had them going on the final. Yeah, but you know what I didn't realize? This is what I overlooked, and it's the story of the series. Their power play was ranked number 31 of the entire NHL. You cannot win in the playoffs if your power play can't score your goal. They were over 15, I think, in the series.

I didn't think Nashville's defense played that well, and I thought they were such a defensive juggernaut that they would roll over Dallas because Dallas had one line. That's right. But their defense was not good, and they couldn't get a goal on the power play to save their life, which cost them. Their power play looked god awful. Yes.

Out of all the teams we talked about, I feel the worst for David Poyle. Because you look at the team he's put together there. You talk about no power play. Who did he add at the trade deadline? Granlin from Minnesota. Who's supposed to be kind of that smaller, nifty power play guy? Yeah, and they added Wayne Simmons. Wayne Simmons, and he stands in front of the net.

And you look at your team on paper, and you build from the net out and the whole bit, and you've been there and the guys have the experience. And then nothing? To Dallas? Is it the case of doing two? much bringing too many in maybe though they've kept their core together though they had a couple pieces in what you want to do they've got the core there they haven't traded away their core Wayne Simmons didn't play a game right he was hurt the entire

is that where the coach is a little more in a hot seat dad you're kind of swerving up there the wind is it the wind up there oh yeah there we go rumble strips for you folks I would think the coach is in a little bit of hot seat yeah I don't know when I look at the teams I just that was a very Nashville should be they've gone through enough series together. And it just, that was, that was buffalo. Okay, finally, the team that nobody thought was making it, not only did they make it through the first round,

but Colorado Calgary, Calgary comes in first in the West. They had an excellent, an excellent season, right? See, I thought Calgary had roll over Colorado. Colorado had one line. Calgary was deep, had good defense. I don't know. That one shocked me, too. Man, that taught, like Colorado, along with Dallas,

Those two teams look so bloody fast. It's not even funny. Yeah. They just, like, Colorado's speed. It's scary. You talk about Islanders Pittsburgh. Islanders looked fast. Yeah.

Sometimes fast to his puck movement. Yes. Yep. Colorado really seemed to move the puck quick and it just added to your speed. And really just take away the Calgary's top line. Like, once again, I didn't hear Monaghan at all. And does look like you can get under his skin. Oh, little pick.

Oh, little pick on the wrist. Oh, look at him, wave his wrist around, and just can see him get under his skin the whole series. Well, McKinnon's playing, he's the best player in the NHL at the moment. Yeah. That's what he looks like. He was dominant for the heartloster. No, absolutely. No, absolutely dominant.

Okay, so last Brothers Roundtable, we did a little bit of NBA, and it was such a hit last time that we actually brought in an NBA insider. So here's our NBA insider. What do you think of the NBA playoffs going on right now? I like turtles. All right, back to it. So I want to do our round two predictions. We actually made these predictions before they started the second round. We made these predictions on the way up.

So I'll start it off because I think some of my teams are winning, some of my teams aren't doing it. I had Columbus over Boston. I had New York Islanders over Carolina. I have Colorado over San Jose and I have Dallas over St. Louis. Harles? Very similar. I picked Columbus, the Islanders, Dallas and Colorado. I was so bad in the first round going two for eight that I picked all four winners that are going to win the second round.

I've got Boston. I've got Carolina. I've got St. Louis and San Jose. And Jay? I'm St. Louis and Colorado and Boston. Who must have woke up after when they won their game? seven win. Can you believe who's left? Anyways. And I picked

the Islanders. I'm not going to bet against the Islanders until someone can beat them best offensive team in the league all year and then rolled through Pittsburgh. Well, now I'll go to our cricket insider. Nate. I don't know. I'm thirsty. Nate's dying.

He is. He does not look... He looks rough. He looks rough. He normally looks rough, but he looks really rough. Cricket's a rough sport. Okay. One of the big things that happened over the last, I think it's 10 days now, is, well, a year ago, Steve Eiseman is the GM of the Tampa Bay Landing. You look at the team he constructed to go on to be the fourth best regular season of all the time. Got swept this year, though.

I understand, but he constructed that all. Like, he did so many brilliant things. I agree with Sean. And then he steps down, and everybody's going on, and the world is going on. He says he wants to be closer to his family or in Detroit, and we talked about this last one about who they. the other should get as a GM and it was brought up that he was going to go to Detroit. And I was like, well, no, they got Holland there. Like, how does that even make sense, right?

Well. Whose call was that? Actually, I believe it was Harley who brought it up. Harley's one for one, hey? Huh? Huh? So, Holland not only steps aside, signs a multi-year deal. Steve Eisenman is now the Detroit Red Wings GM.

And we gotten a huge argument about this in the middle of Vancouver. But the culture in Detroit is second to none. And doesn't that just translate into the next five years, them coming back around and being another team that's going to be a force to be reckoned with, maybe? I will say this, is that adding Eisenman into there probably helps them because I think Holland, sometimes you get, when you get a little bit older, you get stuck in the ways that brought you success. And I think they needed a reinvention because Detroit in the last couple of years has gone downhill.

And they don't seem like they have a lot going on. adding Steve Eisman and who's proven to be very capable in Tampa Bay will help that organization immensely, in my mind. And when the others are talking about getting Holland as their GM, I went, you know, he was great back in the 80s and 90s and into the 2000s. But the last five years, they've gone downhill. He signed some average players to long-term deals, and they haven't replaced the guys, and their teams kind of bottomed out. And I go, that's the guy you want to add in to fix your problem. You've got to be having new thinking GM, and that's why I like the route they're going talking to Hunter and... The Oilers, you're talking, Hunter and McCrimmon.

The thing I'll say about that, though, is when is the last time Detroit had a top 10 pick? They picked Zadena last year. Right. And before that? They have not, they have made the playoffs for what? Well, in their heyday, they're 25 years in a row. And this was the second year they haven't made the playoffs, right? Yeah, I believe so.

25 years that they haven't had a top 15 pick, never mind a top 10 pick. So you are consistently having to find those gems out in the rough. And they did it for a long period of time. And well done on them, right? But I think eventually you're not going to find those picks. Eventually the scouting is going to get out on different guys. and it's going to become harder and harder to find those guys out there. And so, I don't know.

If you've got a great scouting staff, that's what they do. Okay, so here's the thing that made Detroit great before everyone else, is they had great scouts in Sweden, where they picked up some absolute gems late. They had great European scouts, and before everyone was picking European players, they were, and they picked the best players, and they made their team great.

And now does everybody have European scouts? That's right. And so it's tougher to be way ahead of the curve. And the second thing, the second thing they did, for a lot of years was there was no cap and they brought in guys late in the careers Brad Hall, Brennan Shanahan, who were great players and they could bring them in because there was no cap. You can't get away with that anymore. But the other key that Detroit always had is great player development. The minor league system was unbelievable. Left guys down in the A trail,

they developed them. Which is what they've talked about with the Oilers, right? That's the one thing Sherelli did. No, but that's one thing Shirelli did was improve the minor league team. And this year they were one of the best teams in league. So to be a great GM, you've had to be ahead of the curve. And the things that made Holland great, he was ahead of the curve back in those years because of those things. He can't be ahead of the curve anymore on those things because other teams have good scouting in

Europe. There's a cap now. So it's not like you can just bring in guys late in their careers that were really good, like Shanahan and Hall and Robitai and all those guys, because you can't fit him under the cap anymore. It's a lot more challenging. You need new ways of thinking to stay ahead of the curve. I'm not going to get into the

argument about whether he's the best GM still out there, but he's still better than a lot of guys. And you look at how smoothly they transitioned that team from an old Detroit Redwing, Cronwall, Datsuk, Zetterberg, all them old guys, into a nice table of young guys that they're not trading away for Adam Larson or Ryan Strom. I mean, imagine where the orders would be. That's the Gagne. Well, yeah, like, imagine if they, for Spooner. So imagine where the orders would be if they had just been patient, let all this crop come up. you had a bad one with Yakopov

but other than that you let the crop come up if you feel like a hall is bad in the dressing room you get way more form but I mean Detroit's got a nice young team there they really do and all they're missing is probably you throw McDavid into Detroit and people talk about them being close to

winning a cup and right now McDavid's on Emmerton who has how many top draft picks and there's just no depth around them and that's your leadership that's your GM yes I agree with that Okay. Carolina Hurricanes have their little endgame celebration.

Now off air, I've talked to several different hockey people about this, and I thought, I will throw it around the round table and see what guys think. They have their endgame celebration. They did that in regular season, not the playoffs. Not the playoffs, that's right. But at the end of any regulation win at home, they do different little celebrations that interacted with the fans. And Don Cherry came out and was basically blasted them for it being, you know,

The guy who wears the most elaborate suits possible. Really. But more hockey insiders came out and said the same thing that they didn't like. It was hurting the culture of the game or the history of the game, that kind of thing. What a load of BS. You're going to in a place that doesn't have hockey. They're trying to make it more entertaining for the fans. Like they'd say, you know, you go down to San Jose and they do quirky, funny little things.

Well, it's San Jose. They don't have snow there. It's not something they grew up with. If you can make it more entertaining and engage the fans, you do it. Don Cherry wears all these fancy suits. to draw more attention to himself. But he's sitting there criticizing Carolina for doing goofy things at the end so that the kids

and the fans, if you get the kids involved and having fun, that's what's all about. So who cares? I agree with Dust. I'm going to just say, you know, I enjoy watching Don Cherry because he's enjoyable. Part of the reason he's enjoyable is because he just doesn't say the norm.

So you know what? 30 years ago, he was talking about the Russians being in the NHL and was terrible. Then it was the Swedes and how they dived. And then over time, he slowly comes along with that that all of a sudden he's not on that. So he's got to keep himself relevant

and take a shot at the next thing because people are watching them. They want him to have this outrageous predictions. They want to have these, and then every once in a while he's right, just like Harley was once. And all of a sudden people listen to him and he has a falling.

I think he does a great job of what he does. And I imagine what we're going to find. I mean, I think actually Vegas started the year before with all their playoff theatrics, not the players themselves, but you're bringing people into the building. There's a lot of places for your dollar to go. The one thing I'll say to this is

when we're playing college ball down in the States, and you get... This was like Div 3, like Tier Z. Right. Guess off. Absolutely loving every minute of it. And there'd be a rain delay or a snow delay or whatever. Jay, how many Div 3 ball teams do you play for?

I didn't. but I won a national championship, Sean. Oh, no, that's all right. I won a Western championship, too. Good for you. Yeah. Whether it was rare or not, Harley was on the bench either way. Go ahead.

Your junior high school volleyball team. Harley, did you win Westerns or National Scrolls? Oh, no. Yes, I did you. Oh, did you? Yes, did you? Westerns. I went to Westerns once or twice.

Yeah. We find the weak link here. I was like McDavid, surrounded by a bunch of agents. You get into a rain delay, and teams would, go and they would have random shenanigans. Division 1 college teams. They would have, well, and even

when we were there. I know, but the ones you're talking about, the best ones were Division 1 teams that when they got a rain delay, they'd start doing dances and stuff like that. That's your ball players interacting with everybody. And it made like YouTube sensation kind of stuff. They would get guys up on their shoulders and they would have a bat in

between their armpits and the other team would get and they'd do jousting back and forth, right? And, you know, it's just something fun and entertaining, right? At the same time, too, it brings teams together. And for something like that, I was thinking the other, when the Oilers made the playoffs, they would. When was that?

A long time ago. They would go back to one of the guys's rooms, and he had an old Nintendo, and they would do Mario Kart. And it became such a thing within the dressing room that it brought all the guys together, and everybody would, as soon as the games were done, everybody would run back to the one guy's room, and they'd have tournaments of Mario card. Right, right? So for something like this,

everybody's trying to outdo themselves because it's their turn to make up the end win celebration, right? So they're trying to be the next guy that has the best one, right? And I can see how to bring a team together. It's fun for the fans. Am I for? They go on a one heck of a rome. run. Dad's got one from back when we won nationals. Well, when we won nationals, we were in

Victoria, it was midget, and we're in the final game, and we'd picked up a backcatcher from Saskatoon. His name was Ryan Ray, and he was high percentage. Like, he was just full out going all the time, hard to control. So we're in a tight game. Everybody's not saying a word, And Ryan Ray, out of the blue, says, we got to sing. And everybody goes, we're a bunch, you know, a bunch of farm boys and stuff. We don't sing. We sing poorly. And he says, no, we got to sing.

And he was getting it from, he was on the Canadian team. And their coach there made them sing when they got in tight. And it just loosened everybody up. So he started singing the Atlanta Braves chant. The, ah, ah, ah. And what it did was it. loosened all our guys up and it made the other team kind of freeze and go, what are those guys doing? And we got singing it and then whoever was there for our crowd started singing it

and pretty soon we had the stadium singing it and we ended up winning the nationals over a stupid song. I will say this. One more thing about Carolina is this. Is it bringing your team together? Not only that, they got Don Cherry to attack them, which brings you closer again now they've gone on a run. True. Very true. So, we just passed biking, which means we got probably, how much time we got, Brad? 15 minutes? 15 minutes. Okay. So I want to go first off to our Kentucky Derby insider, Mr. Daddy O'Numan. He is heading to the Kentucky Derby. What do you think? Guys, I know absolutely nothing about horse racing. What I do know was I grew up on a farm.

We rode horses, but I had the little pony and dad had the big quarter horse. But dad's theory was, show him who's boss. So when his horse would stumble, because he wasn't paying attention, he'd give him a swap between the years. And when my lady, who was an old lady, didn't pay attention, he'd get a switch, and he'd give her a switch, and I'd hang on, and she paid attention. So at the start of the race, I think, in my theory,

all you got to do is see who has the biggest whip. That's the one that's going to win. Show him who's boss. Show him who's boss. Okay, well, with 50s. Fifteen minutes left, tonight is Game of Thrones. So if you are A, haven't watched Game of Thrones, or B, you're a, you're waiting for the next series to come out all in unison, you maybe don't want to listen to this. I don't know.

But Game of Thrones, tonight, they're all sitting in Winterfell. The Dead Army is staring across at him. Who's not making it out of it tonight? Harley. Oh, there's a heck of a prediction. Who's dying, Harles? First off, I want to know who's dying, and if you're over under three and a half main character. So.

I'm going over. I'm going over. I'm going over as well. I'm going to go under. You're going to go under? Well, I'm thinking like Don Cherry here, because if I'm wrong, you guys are going to be talking about all three, right? But if I'm right, right, this is going to be awesome. Okay, carry on. Jamie Lannister, done.

Jora, I think done. It's a little bit too early to discuss Brann yet. Fire of Sword Preacher? Done. And I gotta think that there's probably one more somewhere in there that I'm not really 100% sure on. Maybe it's green worm. I don't know.

But I for sure think that there's probably four that are done. Okay, well, yeah, you're over three and a half. That's right. So I'm just looking at some of the names. I'm not quite as, I have watched in the past, but I'm not quite as up to the day as my brothers. Jamie, though, is going to die because he's going to be, but he's going to be heroic at the end.

where he comes and everybody loves him for how he dies. He saves somebody, he does some heroism. Gran of Tartre most likely. And they're in the same squad. I think the hound's done too. He's going to go down in a huge battle. He'll probably have like a hundred of them crawling on them. But I think the hound's done.

And I think Samwell's done just because, who names her kid, Samwell? So, and the only guy that I think for sure is going to make her, I think DeNaris is going to make it because she's got dragons. So you got dragons, you make it. and there's one dragon that'll die so she'll have one left. I think Aria's going to make it because she's going to be the big battle with Dineris. And I think Greyworm makes it because how do you really kill a gray worm? And, yeah, Dust.

I'm going over, but Theon Greyjoy is dying tonight in some heroic thing where he saves Bran. That's my prediction. Jora's going down for sure. The hound is going to stick around because him and his brother at some point are going to have an epic. battle so the hound is not dying um for sure the fire sword preacher i can't remember his name but he's dying yeah he seems like an easy one just out whack off and be done with it yeah um now i'm gonna go with uh maybe davos will die tonight as well just because i i'm gonna go with the over and i'm just looking at the names and i go i think it's going to be the night of the side characters are toast

So the one that isn't a side character is I think Jamie Lannister is I actually kind of recruit you I think he's going to go down saving Brianna Tarth I think they're in the same squadron out on the fight in the dead I think that's going to be the big one to go I think the hound cannot go because he has to fight the mountain he's already alluded to it so that's got to happen that doesn't happen to all fans are going to be disappointed but let's see here I think the fire the fire sword dude toast I think Davos, toast. I think all the Starks are going to make it, at least for this episode. I think DeNaris makes it.

I think Podraig. Podraig. I think he's toast. Right? He's a lovable character, but he goes tonight. I think one of the dragons dies tonight. One of DeNaris's dragons. Does that mean the Ice King dies tonight then? Does that mean that there's two?

And all they're marching back on Circey Lannisters with one. One dragon? I think that she only has one dragon when she goes to face her. Here's a bold prediction, but I think that one dragon sticks with the Nairus, and one is now John Snow's. Wow. Well, they were riding them last episode. Spoiler alert. So.

And he is a Targaryen. Spoiler alert. And I don't even have to watch the show. So I'm going to go with, let's count it out here. make sure I got four, so I'm not saying I'm over four and then take three. I got Jamie Dian. I got Davos dying. Fire Sword Preacher Dian.

Podrick. The guy who is the king's bastard. That would be... Gendry. He goes down to. So there's my bold prediction. Who do we got sitting on the iron throne at the end, fellas? I got two schools of thought.

One is the happy ending. John Snow's king, Deneres' acquaintance. However they slice it, they got a couple of dragons, and Sanzas Stark is up at Winterfield. Or they do the Game of Thrones thing, and they throw it completely on their side, and Sansa, I think, ends up killing Circe, and she's the left with the iron throw. She seems kind of having enough to be the one. She seems pretty on point, and she's been playing the game now, whereas the other ones have not. I'm going to go with John Snow and Dineris both have their own dragons,

and they both have an epic dragon-on-dragan battle. There you go. I'm going to go with Aria wearing Dineris' face on the throne. Dneros' face? Isn't that an interesting one? Did you say he was going to end up an epic fight, but who wins? So John Snow is going to get killed, and then the red woman is going to come back and revive him,

and he's going to sit on the... They already did that once. We're throwing Harley's prediction in the garbage. I'm going to go Sanzas. You know, I was waiting for my big moment, and then Dustin's story. told it so now I'm going to look at all the names again. Girl, are you wearing John Snow's face on the throne? That'd be even better.

You know what? I like the idea that Tyrion gets on there, and then it is a happy ending. Does Brent want to throw out a prediction? He has been watching the series. No, we're going to go to Brent here. No, I don't have a prediction. I do like the prediction of the, what's a small girl? Area.

wearing someone's face and being on the throne. I can see that happening. And I like the thought of, is it, Sansa? Sanza, the oldest daughter, right? Yep. Killing. Ceres? Circee, Lannister?

Circe, yeah. Maybe wearing her face just for fun. Well, folks, that does it for another brother's roundtable. I hope you've enjoyed this episode coming straight from a van somewhere in Alberta as we get closer and closer to Kinsella. And stay tuned next week. We'll have somebody on, all right? And just remember, there's always next year, Kroft. Yipski-doo!

Hey, guys. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I. I always enjoy getting the brothers and having Dad and Nate and Brent around while we did it was awesome. So I hope you enjoyed the banter between us, our second roundtable. This upcoming week, I have the first woman to the podcast, Chelsea Steinley. She is originally from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. She is a wife and mother of two who went back to playing competitive volleyball with Lakeland College at the age of 31 and ended up winning conference going on to nationals, winning nationals that year. And then the second year they won their conference again, got to go back to nationals and won a bronze.

So in her two years of coming off of motherhood and work and everything else and just deciding to head back, she was a part of something really special and played the entire time. I'm looking forward to sitting down with her, so that's next week. Please tune in. Until then.