Shaun Newman Podcast - #222 - 222 Minutes

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

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Starting point is 00:04:24 Now let's get on that T-Barr-1 tale of the tape. He likes his identity to remain anonymous. His Twitter handle goes by 222. 2-2-211 times 2. You get the point. Talking about 222 minutes. So buckle up. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:04:48 This is twos from my 222 cents and 222 minutes. You're listening to the 22nd episode of the Sean Newman podcast. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Mr. Toos, episode 2-2-2 with Mr. 22-2. So, sir, thanks for hopping in. Hey, I'm really glad to be back again. Third time, right? Third time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's funny. I know I say this lots. Lots of people say it, but like, is this the shortest year of your life, the longest year? I mean, because we talked May 31st, July 5th, and now, what is it, November, like, 24th, somewhere in there. I would say the first half of it was really, really long. And since the summer, it has just flown. I've just been trying to catch my breath this whole time with everything going on in life and with this and everything else.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's been a whirlwind, which is fun because you're not bored. And I see you're sporting a little QDM wherever. Oh, you saw that. Well, it's hard to miss that shirt. I'm going to have to tweet that picture of that shirt out. she's nice and bright for you there quick wherever you're at today. Yeah, so thanks for that quick. We did a gift exchange last Christmas.
Starting point is 00:06:14 You did not. We did. So I brew a little bit of beer at home. And so I put some with good old Canada Post, had to sign the document saying I wasn't sending any liquids, or I think it might have even said alcohol specifically, and lied, put it in the mail. and a few days later, quick got it.
Starting point is 00:06:36 But he sent me this and a hat first. And I'm like, a t-shirt and a hat? How much beer were you expecting? Speaking about beer, you brought me in Bohemian today. Yeah, I brought some bow. Yeah, well, I'm not really drinking Pilsner anymore. And why is that? Well, have you seen the labels?
Starting point is 00:06:57 No, I was mentioning before you came in here, I don't know. Life is, you know, busy with kids and kids. hockey and everything. So when I do have a social beverage, it's usually a scotch or something along the lines of that. And I haven't, I don't know, I haven't really been paying attention, I guess. Okay. Well, it's kind of like Justin Trudeau's ears right now.
Starting point is 00:07:18 There's a big blank spot in the middle. So I don't know if you recall or not off top of your head of any of you listeners, you're probably drinking some of you some of you. And if you're not, you should be except now you shouldn't be. But where they used to have a teepee and, the two Indians right in the middle, it's just a big blank spot now. They took them out, presumably because this is what we do in this day and age where we are so afraid of being racist that we can't even pay homage to a longstanding beer or a
Starting point is 00:07:58 longstanding culture or tradition. I mean, is there anything inherently racist about TPs? I can't even find a picture of it. That's what's irritating me. So I know exactly what you're saying. So it's just green field. Yeah, so you've got all the stuff around it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You know, you've got the plane, and you've got the train and the mountains, and where there used to be, and I've been a Pilsner drinker for a long time. I've even got the Pilsner board game. There's a Pilsner board game? Yeah. What the heck do you do in a Pilsner board game?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. Lots of drink. Yeah. Okay, finish your rad. Anyway, we've gone to a place in society where we can't even pay homage to people on the off chance that someone's going to be offended by it. Look at the fact that we don't even have the Edmonton Eskimos anymore. Right. And we're going to bring up that one, are we?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Well, I'm still kind of bitter about it. And I'm not even an Eskimos fan. What's Cleveland now? too. I think there's still the Indians. I thought they were... I mean, you've got the Washington football team. No, the Cleveland Guardians.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Really? Yeah. I haven't been keeping up on the major leagues, man. Like I said, everything's been a whirlwind lately. The Guardians? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I don't know. Are they going to go back in retrofits...
Starting point is 00:09:26 The Cleveland Guardians are an American professional baseball team in Cleveland. Like, are they going to go back and change the Major League movies? Now? Because of that, you're going to have Charlie Sheen with Guardians just badly photoshopped on top of it with his Rick the Wild thing, Vaughn glasses. Are you going to have the subtitles when they're trying to clean up the field with those two guys that are doing all the groundswork? And they'll be like, oh, the Cleveland Guardians are shitty.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Oh, they're shitty again. I'm sure someone's going to be wanting to see it. Not to see it, but just to know that it happens. because they're not outraged, but they're just used to being outraged. It all started with the Cecil the Lion, and it's all just spiraled out of control from there. We don't actually want to make a difference. We just want to look like we're making a difference. It's the same thing with the carbon tax.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We're going to punitively tax the hell out of a country that has made leaps and bounds in terms of emission reduction. Or we could just, if we actually wanted to make a difference, we could just have, help some third nation countries set up natural gas plants instead of coal. For a tenth, the emissions there. Why wouldn't we just do that for pocket change rather than crippling our main industry here? It's same thing with vaccinations. If we actually cared about people not spreading it, we wouldn't be taking away the unvaccinated people's ability to fly.
Starting point is 00:11:06 we would say, okay, well, maybe we'll test you. Or have you had COVID and are you now probably immune? Or the blood work guy that you had on? Yeah, Mike Kuzmuscus. Yes, exactly that. Why would we not look at that? Because it's not about actually making a difference or doing things better. It's about the perspective of doing things better.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's about feeling as though you're making a difference, whether you're doing it or not. It's like shoveling the ocean. You know, oh yeah, you're working hard, but are you getting anything done? No. And usually you're going to look like an idiot, especially if it's a spade.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Like it just cuts the waves better. Did I mention it's nice having you yet? It's enjoyable to have, somehow you make serious topics seem light and like just enjoyable to listen. I just, you know, where's the two? I'm going to ask my, my brother's question, where the hell is the two's podcast been? Okay, so again. I think I speak for a lot of people right now. Like, like, are you just, you've abandoned all of us. No, I have not. So I had a little bit of
Starting point is 00:12:21 logistical issues and I wasn't able. So I guess, let me rewind a little bit. The last six months with a change of my profession, I've been working a ton, which has been great. It's It's been really fulfilling, but really busy. And I guess the biggest change is that I'm not always in a spot where I can just write down whatever idea randomly comes to me throughout the course of the day. And I probably need to get a little bit better at that. And I'm traveling a lot. So I'm not always just sitting in like my comfortable spot where I just sit and write.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And as weird as it sounds, it's kind of hard to get in that same headspace. But I've been doing it a little bit. And then I wrote two episodes that I scrapped entirely. So wrote them and then went to go put them to voice or record them, I guess. And I'm going over it. And it kind of just felt like when a Saturday night live sketch is trying to be funny, but it isn't funny. And you can see where they're trying to be funny, but it's just not landing.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Street one they just did. Yeah, okay, so perfect. Could we talk about the... Yeah, all right. So Pete Davidson, I think is his name, who looks absolutely nothing like Joe Rogan. But you understand what they're doing. Yeah, so you understand what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:13:47 They've got them on there. And then like the world's worst big bird costume. And so Big Birdhead tweeted about how important vaccinations are a little bit before that. And Joe Rogan, of course, with the Ivermectin. And they're saying it's horse. medicine and the thing about it is is even if like let's say that Ivermectin was horse medicine and it never got used for anything else and it actually worked why wouldn't we use this we shut
Starting point is 00:14:16 down the whole world for a year and a half if we had something that we could just give to our equine friends that we could just take ourselves who cares if it's for horses if it's gonna get everything back to normal because I mean that's the thing it's right You just get injected and we can go back to normal. You just shut down for two weeks. We can go back to normal. Well, maybe just take some horse paste. Why does it always have to be on us?
Starting point is 00:14:43 I mean, really, like if there was anything short of like an elephant suppository that was going to get us back to normal, we would probably be willing to try it. But no, because it's not the fact that you're finding a solution. It's that you're finding a solution that isn't theirs. And big bird of all people on Twitter? If you really want to have somebody accurate as far as cartoon characters, well, whatever, Muppets, you name it. Advocating for vaccinations, you should have the Grinch because his heart grew three sizes that day. Big Bird's not accurate?
Starting point is 00:15:26 He's not real, for one. Well, that's true. I'm just saying the Grinch would be a far more accurate representation of my, my, carditis I'd love to SNL I think we've all gone through our phases
Starting point is 00:15:41 in SNL can I can I can assume that yeah and then you know I go in phases of when you
Starting point is 00:15:48 you know they get a great host or whatever maybe they have a good year whatever I haven't watched it a bit but I saw that clip and I was like
Starting point is 00:15:55 man we've hit a new low it was pathetically bad I mean can we go back to anal bum cover like that would be awesome let's get some celebrity jeopardy. Let's do these things that actually work, but they're trying to be, the thing about it is, is that if you're trying to be political and entertaining at the same time,
Starting point is 00:16:14 usually you fall flat on one of them. Look at all of the, not necessarily subliminal, because it's kind of overt, but just look at the messaging in Captain America and Winter Soldier or even Captain Marvel, right? This whole, you've got a string of Mary Sue. and I'm borrowing heavily from the critical drinker when I talk about this. But Star Wars, the last trilogy, it's just that women are empowering and they can do anything. And maybe we could just have more compelling characters that have limitations instead of these ridiculously overpowered characters
Starting point is 00:16:56 that when they're fighting for literally half of the universe, you've got to have them on the other side of it until the last minute where they can just show up fly through the spaceship, right? And, oh, so you didn't, you didn't like Endgame. I loved Endgame.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh, my three favorite kinds of movies are superhero movies, time travel movies, and heist movies. So I mean, don't mind that order. That was just a perfect storm
Starting point is 00:17:25 of everything I love to see when I'm eating popcorn. But at the same time, it wasn't without a flaws. Captain Marvel has the Superman complex. That's the problem, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 What do you do with that character? They're so powerful. Well, and that was something that they dealt with, I think, in the 50s when they were writing it. I think it wasn't even DC back then. But they're just like, okay, well, we've kind of just run out of ideas. And this guy just goes around, have you ever heard of One Punch Man? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's, I think it's an anime type of. I have an idea of what he is. Okay. So he's just this ridiculously overpowered superhero. And I'm not a huge expert. on it. I saw a couple episodes and then life catches up with you and you never get around to watching all of it. And I think it was based on a comic. And so it's just this. Oh, he here. Yeah. Well, that is not what I expected. He, he looked, kind of looks like a bald little boy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:21 it's kind of this airbender looking thing. Yeah. Airbender. That's a good. Yeah, okay, carry on. Yeah. So his thing is just that he can lay anybody out with one punch. And so he kind of just gets detached from the world and everything that's going on because no matter what's going on, he can just give it one punch and it's all fixed. And so they kind of went in a different direction where how does that affect you psychologically rather than just being, hoorah, we've got this unbeatable character. And it's not interesting or compelling and they're not overcoming adversity. There's no montages in any of these movies.
Starting point is 00:18:59 They don't get better as they progress. They start off as good as they are in the first movie as they are in the first movies. the fifth movie and there's no evolution involved. You can kind of turn it on at any point and you're like, oh, she's kicking somebody else's ass. Oh, she's kicking somebody else's ass. All right, I guess I'm going to go do my taxes because it's slightly more enthralling. It's a problem that Hollywood has going on right now.
Starting point is 00:19:23 She's, you know, I'm always fascinated with people who get, everybody always talks about subliminal messaging. Some of it is very like, oh, man, can you just? Mm-hmm. And then I, I, I, I'm obviously, I must be a shallow thinker because I go to a lot of movies. I don't look past. Was it enjoyable?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Wasn't it? Was it the acting good or wasn't it? Kate, you might not have heard of this because it was only in the theaters for like an hour. But maybe about 7,8 years ago, Tim Roth was in a movie about FIFA, that FIFA paid to have made. No kidding. This sort of compelling thing. It was a little bit after one of the waves of Alibald. allegations of bribery and human enslavement and corruption at all levels and things like that.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I'm like, you know, someone in a boardroom just said, you know what we need that would just really turn this around? It's a movie that no one's going to watch. A propaganda film. And that's totally what it was. And nobody ever watches propaganda films. Nobody ever. There's there's not a Shawshank redemption in the propaganda film genre.
Starting point is 00:20:32 There's nothing like that. because you're too busy trying to force a message down people's throats to worry about anything being entertaining. And as a result, it falls flat. And that's kind of where Saturday Night Live's at right now. That's where... No, that's exactly what the S&L skit was on Sesame Street. You're just like, this isn't even funny. This is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like, this is ridiculous that you wrote this thinking it would be funny. Did they even think it was going to be funny? It's, I don't really know what goes on in a. writer's room but you got to think that there'd be someone in there who was putting their hand up quietly in the back and saying what if we got people to laugh well that's what we're supposed to be doing that's what we should be doing i tell you about my y2k story no okay so you have to now though so this is side tangent i had jerry ritz on right yeah yeah yeah he nailed it i and in it i say to jerry something along the lines like you know you've been in the room
Starting point is 00:21:33 Aren't you sitting there going like, guys, maybe we should, I don't know, look at a different, like, maybe look at what all these people are worried about. You know, like we can keep calling them conspiracy theorists, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever the word is. Maybe we should just entertain it. Just have a couple people entertain it and see what they find. Who knows? Maybe we'll find something. Anyways. So I interviewed, I was saying I've been doing these, I don't know, I feel like it's Vance Crow's term, the legacy interview because he does them as well.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But anyways, I've been hired to do legacy interviews. I'm using that term very loosely. where you go out and interview a family. Anyways, one of the family members worked for the SAS government for 15 years during Y2K. And I was like, interesting. So then I, you know, I had, you know, I was pretty young, Y2K. But I remember it. It's like one of those things that happens when you're a kid that you'll never forget it.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Like it's, everybody thought the world was coming to an end. Like how do you wipe that memory from, like that sinks into your core the way COVID is going to sink into my kid's core. into any kid's core. Whether you think it is or isn't, when everybody talks like this for an extended period of time, this is what's happening. Anyways, fast forward the story.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Y2K. So I go to, so why don't you just sitting around a table going like, guys, like the world isn't going to come to an end? It's just not. He goes, oh yeah, there's a group of people.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But everybody was still so scared that we needed to have a plan in place in case it did, that they spent millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on like generators, everything to ensure the government would run January 1. And to top that off, his wife, part of a trucking company,
Starting point is 00:23:13 they had to have a Y2K plan in place as well. And I'm like, you're kidding me. She's like, no, everybody thought the world was coming to an end. And I'm like, doesn't that feel like where we're at right now? Everybody's got to have a COVID-19 plan in place to da-da-da-da-da-da. The only difference is January 1, I don't know where that is. You know, like we don't have a January 1 where it's like, oh, it's over.
Starting point is 00:23:36 We get to carry on, right? Like, oh, the clocks actually did go past the year 2000 or the year 1999, I guess, right? Well, it's a really interesting corollary. And yeah, you see a lot of similar stuff. I'd say the main difference is kind of what you're saying with there's no January 1, except I would argue that it's not Y2K, now it's Y2K plus 1. and Y2K Plus 2 and now it's
Starting point is 00:24:05 whatever while it would have been 2004 the leap year what's going to happen on February 29th 2004 are the clock's all going to go to March 1st
Starting point is 00:24:15 you know and just like oh what's this new scare what's this new thing it's not just well if everything kind of goes back to normal
Starting point is 00:24:24 by lunchtime on New Year's day I guess we kind of dodged a bullet we're in this space where they're like okay so So it's 9 o'clock in the morning, January 1st, nothing's happened yet.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So the next one's going to happen on January 9th. And you need to be scared about that. And the next one's going to happen on the 15th. And then so on down the road, the aides of March. Oh, they would have loved to make that one scary. Right. And we're just living with these constantly moving targets. Everything's evolving in this space, even the definitions.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like we talked about this just real briefly beforehand, but I'm going to bring it up. So the seat- I should point out before you hop to definitions that obviously I'm making very light of the situation, the two situations. People, no, as far as I know, there probably was a couple people die on Y2K because of something, I'm sure of it. The Halebop comet, or no, I think it was a few years sooner. No, no, that was a few years sooner or after.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Haley's Comet? Or maybe it was Haley's Comet. Haley's Comet is... Haley's Comet came in the 80s, and it comes around every 75 years. There was a group, a cult, that all killed themselves on Haley's Comet. It comes every 75 years.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, damn, you were right. 1986? Is that true? Oh. Fuck. That was a year I was born. I can't believe you'd fact-checked me on something like that. I fact-checked you hard. Oh, Snope says it was mostly true.
Starting point is 00:25:57 So in 2016, watch out, because it's coming back, and you know there's going to be... I'm going to be an old man and we're going to be hearing about Haley's comment. Oh, yeah, and people are going to be wondering if their 78th booster is going to somehow transport them up to it. Definitions, fire at me. Okay, all right. So the CDC keeps evolving their definitions for vaccination. So pre-2015, it was injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to prevent the disease.
Starting point is 00:26:29 2015 to 21. It was the act of introducing a vaccine into the, the body to produce immunity to a specific disease. And in September of 2021, the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease. And it keeps changing. Like even with just the effectiveness of the vaccine, you know, people are saying, okay, well, you know what, it doesn't, it doesn't prevent the spread. It doesn't prevent the infection, but it lessens the symptoms. And I was really disappointed. We kind of just gave everybody pass on that. Nobody ever said, let's show your work. Okay, you're, you're saying that the
Starting point is 00:27:11 vaccine is lessening the symptoms. There's got to be some way that you could, and it would probably a little bit interpretational because you'd ask people how much pain they're in on a scale of one to 10 or something like that, right? But maybe you could just look at how much they're hospitalized for something along those lines. But yeah, people are like, oh yeah, just imagine how bad this would have been if I hadn't been vaccinated. Like, oh, this guy died of COVID-19. He was double-vaxed. But imagine how bad it would have been
Starting point is 00:27:42 if he hadn't been vaccinated. Right. And so Latin names of things, right? You've got the family, the kingdom, something or else, and it goes genus species, right? Sure. All the way down.
Starting point is 00:27:56 So we're homo sapiens. And the polar bear is the Ursus Meritimus. And I can't remember what the hell in northern Pike is, but it's got a really cool name where you're like, we should just stop calling it a jackfish and start calling it that thing. Right? But every organism has that name, Tyrannosaurus Rex. Esox Lucius?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Esox Lucius. Did I torture? Yeah. Okay. Carry on. So I don't know if anybody's ever thought of this because Latin's kind of a weird language to just, we're going to call everything stuff in Latin. But the reasoning behind that was when they started doing it is,
Starting point is 00:28:34 that because it's a dead language. So words evolve. Names of things change. So you used to call a small bundle of firewood a faggot. And now it has completely different. Yeah, that's... You realize you're the first person
Starting point is 00:28:51 on this podcast to use that word. I'm talking about firewood. Okay. Am I the only person who's ever talked about firewood on the podcast? Maybe. All right? I mean, yeah, sure, you can take me out of context on that. But I'm using...
Starting point is 00:29:05 a well-established definition, which has maybe been lost over time, but that's what it used to be. And I don't even know how the slang eventually worked this way over. I gotta be honest. You always surprised me twos. You're making me laugh.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I've needed a good laugh. Anyways. Okay, well, that's good. Carry on with your, yes. So, you know, if this has happened to episode like three, I'd be like squirming right now. But, I mean, it's episode 2-2, 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Where pretty much anything goes at this point, because, I mean, we've pretty much done it all. So carry on. All right. So they decided the powers that be, whomever they were, decided to go with Latin names because the definitions don't change. They don't evolve because as people keep speaking,
Starting point is 00:29:49 asparagus. It's etymology. I'm trying to think of that's insects or words. But the word asparagus came from sparrow grass and then it eventually got truncated. So words change, meanings change over time. Things evolve. But because nobody speaks Latin anymore, well, maybe some really pretentious people do,
Starting point is 00:30:12 but it's not a spoken language in a culture or a society. And so that's where they went with the names for all of the different parts of biology. Because if you call something a Tyrannosaurus, it's still going to mean terrible lizard in 3,000 years and it's not going to mean bundle of firewood, right? and so this is the methodology this is the approach that the scientific community has adopted and we're just going to throw that out the window when it comes to vaccination and it's been the same for so much of this like we say okay well we can't use hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin again because there isn't enough information you just got me pulled from YouTube for like
Starting point is 00:31:01 the fifth time so i don't even know if i can be pulled from the fifth time but you know just by men uttering those words. Here, here's a side note. I had to Google it. We've got to love having a computer in front of you. Sometimes called a short faggot. I never thought I'd say that word on here. I apologize, Mom. A faggot of sticks equals a bundle of wood sticks or billets that is three feet, 90 centimeters in length, and two feet, 60 centimeters in circumference. The measurement was standardized in ordinances by 1474. So that's not even just a loose term. That's a literal like you've got
Starting point is 00:31:36 I had no idea you'd be able to convert that into cubits or yeah yeah or or kilograms or if we're speaking strictly of wood that's on earth I wish they had
Starting point is 00:31:49 I wish they had a way they probably somewhere on the internet who am I kidding I could do a deep dive into this and figure how it went from that to where we are now where you can under the word right that's a pretty offensive word honestly yeah anyways yeah especially when you're talking about
Starting point is 00:32:03 small ones like midgets Can you still say midgets? When you're talking about hockey, I think he can. Although not in Manitoba. Although you, well, no, everything's you, right? U-7. I grew up playing Tom Thumb. I still don't know how Tom Thumb's offensive.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Otherwise, you just understand they wanted to standardize everything, right? So you just be Tom, novice, Adam, Bantam, no, Pee-Bantam, Midget. Yeah. Whatever, right? Like, you still catch me all the time. you seven tom thumb my son still looks at me like i'm like what do you what he's it's a different language i still don't understand what tom thumb means but i like it i don't know it's is it hurting anyone no but does that matter i don't know does it no it doesn't matter none of the stuff it's
Starting point is 00:32:51 it's not about actually protecting anybody it's about feeling as though you're doing something right it's what i was talking about before right how many midgets were actually complaining about the nomenclature of youth hockey in Manitoba two, three years ago or whatever it was when they got rid of it. And I mean, granted, they tend to make a big deal out of everything, but I never, was that a little joke? Just a tiny one. That was, that was clever.
Starting point is 00:33:21 That was clever. Yeah, wrote it myself. Anyway. So what you're saying is we got, we're, we're so. We're in such a good spot in Canada that we can focus on the things that really just don't mean squat. Oh, absolutely. Like if you ever think about it, when our forefathers moved here, regardless of what race you are, whether you've got people who have been here for thousands of years, hundreds of years, or a few weeks,
Starting point is 00:33:55 they had a lot bigger problems to worry about than some nomenclature and some far-up. off place that has nothing to do with anything they're going to cover they were worried about freezing yeah yeah you got a my family their first winter here they lived in a mud hut before because they didn't have enough time to get a proper house built i tell you dad made me read uh fort pit trails there were the settlers who came to the area around loy okay and uh close to the river actually like north scatch river and uh the stories from there are just like fantastic uh groups of families living in the tents because they couldn't get walls up quick enough. Imagine sleeping in a tent in minus four.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't know how you do that, first off. I mean, how do you not die? But just the, they were so tough. There's a buddy of mine, his wife, their family started off in, in Manitoba. And they would walk all the way to southern Alberta, not super far past the border, but a little ways. And they would spend their whole summers out there. getting everything ready and then they'd walk back again to Manitoba for the winter,
Starting point is 00:35:06 which seems like a really bad idea. I don't know. I don't understand the finer points of it. But that's what they did. They're just like, okay, well, we've got this other spot that we're trying to get ready so we can move there. So we're just going to walk. I don't know exactly where they were in Manitoba,
Starting point is 00:35:21 but it's probably like an eight or nine hour drive nowadays. Imagine doing it on foot. And there wouldn't have been roads. There would have been a path. There would have been a trail. Yeah. Imagine the characters you would have met on the trail. You remember what was the game in school?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Oregon Trail. Oregon Trail. Yeah, yeah. There would have been a lot of people dying of dysentery back then, right? And now we just joke about it, but that would have just been the way of life. Right? I feel like, I feel like dad will listen to this and change my mind on the story because it's his grandfather. He was sent out on one of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:59 They're coming across on the caravan, the whatever it is. And he was sent out. They were short on food, so he sent out to hunt, right? Here we are, Oregon Trail. We're going to send the hunter out. He's going to shoot something, whatever. Anyways, he shoots a couple ducks or whatever it is and gets lost. Comes upon a traveler making pancakes, flips the ducks for a couple of pancakes, gets back to the...
Starting point is 00:36:22 He's got nothing. I didn't find anything, guys. Well, I mean, imagine you guys are starving. You send somebody out with a muzzleloader, some old flintlock thing with the big blunderbuss end on it. And like these are our last few, these are our last few round shot. And then after that we've got to fill it with rocks. So we just need to go out and shoot something. And then he comes back like a day later with pancakes.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Like how does that even happen, right? I mean, once you'd hear the story, but just imagine him coming over the hill. You'd be like, I've brought food. Like, where did you shoot pancakes? Like, is there a flock of them nearby? Oh, God. I don't know. Some of the old stories are just, uh, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I always, what I always took out of them, though, is even when it got to the worst, they always found the happiness in the shit, so to speak, right? Yeah, well, there's always sort of, well, especially something like that. Like, you're about how when guys are fighting over. overseas and they develop that camaraderie really, really strong and really, really quickly. And it carries them, it stays with them for decades after that their whole life a lot of times. I was just talking, my brother and I, my brother Dustin, who's harassing you all the time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I was, yeah, so I had a perfect joke planned. And then we got sidetracked and I never got to make it. but I was just when you were talking about how people harassing me on Twitter and stuff and you hadn't name dropped them yet but I was just going to say how uh shoot it's losing me now you're like yeah so people are you know give me a hard time about how it's been so long without an episode and when these people are bugging me on Twitter I just want to say hey dust your brother has done 50 episodes since the last time you guys were in a round table and you're telling me that I need to get on podcasting more often
Starting point is 00:38:23 Are you trying to tell me I need to have a brother's roundtable? Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, actually, you guys are way overdue. We are probably way overdue. And, you know, the funny thing about it is you bring up a fair bit in episode. You'll say, yeah, I was arguing with my brothers about this. And yeah, I was arguing with my brothers about that. And from the sounds of it, just that kind of tip of the iceberg that you hear about in the episodes,
Starting point is 00:38:50 there's some really interesting conversations going on about the state of the world. and you guys are vehemently disagreeing and get right into, right into thick. You want to hear the brothers argue about COVID? I would love to hear a brother's round table where that table gets flipped over. That might break the internet. Yeah, yeah. Well, you can't try and lift this table. I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Like, this thing is built to withstand an atomic bomb. Jeez. Yeah. You want another brother's round table. I want a brother's round table. But leave the sports. I mean, the sports is all fun. and you guys have a blast doing it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Oh, no, no. But I want to have one where you guys get real mad and don't talk to each other for a week afterwards. That would be really cool. A good Saturday night party back in the bush one day when you got twins that are brothers and their farmers. Oh, I didn't know they're twins. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:40 That's usually what happened. That's the old stories, right? Oh, okay. Why isn't cousin John talking Uncle Ben, whatever, uncles, whatever, I'm messing this up. Oh, yeah, they got in a fist fight and they fought? Oh, yeah, they do it from time to time. Yeah, I see what you're going for. You're looking for a little fireworks.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Well, I can be honest. But also, like, every time you touch on some of the disagreements you have, and I think most of them are with dust, but I haven't, you know, you don't always name drop. I've called dust some of the worst things under the planet. Always apologized after. We're just chuckling about it today, actually, because it's been one of the best, one of the most heated arguments I've had with nobody listening, which was good. and you say maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah, I'm shrugging because maybe if it's that good of an argument, it should have been a podcast episode. Well, actually, you know, QDM and me had a phone call. This is probably like April. And it was all about vaccinations and everything. It was a lovely little chat. And I thought afterwards, I'm like, dang, we should have recorded that. You know, like it was so personal.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So you're like, I probably don't want to talk about this on air. But now you see where we're at and you're like, I should have let everything fly or hang out back then because had so many personal conversations that have definitely impacted how I think and as a person who follows the podcast, anyone who's listening right now, you're missing, you know, you think you're getting 100% of the conversations I have, but you're getting, I don't know, 80%? Yeah, well, you touched on it, I think with Anita, shoot. Krishna.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Krishna, thank you. where you talked about a conversation that you'd had off the air, off the record, and how interesting it was. And you're just like, ah, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:25 I completely understand stuff like that. You can't always talk about it. But it just, it keeps your interest where you're like, oh, okay. As a listener, you're like,
Starting point is 00:41:36 okay, stop that, because I can't hear that. I want to hear it. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. I get that.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Okay, brothers round table, the brothers have been warned. You hear that? The gong has been hit And the universe has heard We'll get a brother's round table How's that?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, the horn's been sounded So it's high time I hate to break it to you though We're going to talk about McDavid and Drysail Because they were lighting things up right now And we're going to bring up Taylor Hall Because it's going to piss dusting off
Starting point is 00:42:02 I'm going to love it You know? Like those would be so much better Taylor Hall See it's not going to another episode He'd make such a great coach, I think That's what they should do No
Starting point is 00:42:11 Water boy Now, let's go back to it. Okay, let's somehow we got on this, we've gone down this little side trail. Yeah, we're in a rabbit hole's rabbit hole right now, which is totally fine. Actually, it's kind of nice. It's kind of enjoyable. You know, I've been, as you know, I've been rattling off a ton of episodes that have been very clear focused, like, we need to figure this out. And we still need to.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And we're talking about a bunch of different things today, but it's kind of nice just to have a, A couple of, you know, Pilsners would have been better, but I understand your grief. A couple of behemians, they taste pretty good. And just to keep it light, you know, nothing, it's serious, but it's, I don't know. I don't even know how to explain you to is it's why everybody needs your podcast back so we can listen to, you know, fire one off at Trudeau again.
Starting point is 00:43:04 So, yeah, I've got one, I've got one cocked and ready to go for, actually, it's probably going to release same day as Monday, right? I've got another one coming up. It's written. I just got a, and I don't hate it. And I even threw a few of the jokes past a couple people. You know, you know, I'll give you some of your own medicine. When you say, you know, I say I have conversations and you can't hear them and you're like, geez, I'd really like them.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You know, your episodes that you hate, I don't know, I'd still like to hear it because I haven't heard a bad one yet. And even if I went, yeah, I didn't really care for that one. It's only one. And I would like to, I'd like to make my judgment on it. That's all I'm saying. That's a pretty fair point. which infuriates me. But yeah, that's a really interesting way to think about it.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I got you tongue-tied, big fella? You kind of do. So, all right, here's, and now I'm also a hypocrite. Warren Concella, I don't know if you know who he is. He was involved with the liberal government under Kretchen back in the day, and now he writes a few articles here and but also he paints. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And so he had just talked about in one post how, you know, he wasn't sure because he'll put stuff up every once in a while. And the guy's got talent for sure. And so he was just kind of saying, like, I don't know if I should try and sell these. I don't know what people would think about them. Maybe I should just paint them and throw them away or whatever the deal is. I don't know if they're good enough. and I had said to him, I'd replied to him, and I said, it's not up to you to decide if they're good enough.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Put them out there, and if people like them, they're going to get them. And I'm doing the exact opposite. You are. I can work on that. Boom, mind-blown. Yeah, kind of, yeah. You stepped in the studio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Motherfucker. Sorry, Mrs. Newman. You mentioned. David Suzuki. I've had a written down now for like two hours. I'm staring at the name. I'm going, okay. What do you got for me? Well, it's probably the first time you've stared at that name in years because the guys pretty much disappeared, excuse me, into oblivion. And so I was thinking about this, and I've been rolling around in my head lately. He had this statement a few days ago that kind of caught fire. And the interesting thing about it is the exact wording.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And, oh, I can't remember. I should have, oh, no, I did keep it up here. Okay, so here's the thing about David Suzuki is you had the UN climate summit in Glasgow for two weeks. This was this ongoing orgy of self-flagellation and self-congratulation. And everybody's just talking to everybody else about how awesome they are. And the party never stops. The scotch keeps flowing. and those idiots probably mixed it with coke.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And you've got David Suzuki, who for a few short years, was a biologist focusing on fruit flies and then somehow managed to transition into a presumptuous, vacuous, hypocritical personality? And nobody... Yeah. Yeah. And then now nobody's even asking him what he thinks about this stuff anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:48 The guy's just descended into oblivion. And so then he shows up at a protest in BC and he says, and here's the quote, there are going to be pipelines blown up if our leaders don't pay attention to what's going on. And so then the pipelines don't blow up, but everybody else does. And David Suzuki, who we've all forgotten about, I'm sure there's lots of people listening right now. They're like, didn't he die in 1989? No, no, he's still alive. He's got the same Lazarus chamber that Joe Biden does.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And he just doesn't poop his pants as much. That actually happened. When he went to go meet the Pope, I mean, like, I'm not sure if he's Catholic or not. Maybe it's just, he was just so excited. But he literally pooped his pants when he met the Pope. And the Internet's a funny place. As soon as that happened, the memes that came out and everything else, I just, you know, I mean, actually, for a day on the Internet, It was something that was kind of humorous.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I mean, it's kind of sad. It's kind of humorous. We've all been expecting it. One of my early podcast episodes, I did a bunch of recurring jokes in one episode about him pooping his pants. Of course. And then now it came true. But I guess, so going back to Suzuki, though,
Starting point is 00:48:08 the interesting thing is that this is a guy who spent most of his life speaking into a microphone, speaking in front of a camera, speaking in front of groups. And so politicians. the successful politicians, not the good politicians, because I think that's entirely different. The successful politicians are the ones who manage to phrase things in such a way that everybody listens to it, and they think that their beliefs just were affirmed. And so it's why you hear a lot of word salad and non-committal things and stuff that doesn't quite say things outright. And this is just a classic example of that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 there are going to be pipelines blown up if our leaders don't pay attention to what's going on. And for a guy that's, there's nothing scarier for any of these phony quasi-celebrities than becoming obscure and forgotten. They would rather be immolated than forgotten. You look at just the antics that people like Alyssa Milano have been up to over the past little while. they'd rather be they'd rather be hated than forgotten than forgotten yes absolutely
Starting point is 00:49:22 and so this is something that didn't actually say anything it didn't it's amazing how many words were in that even though it was a fairly short statement that just went absolutely nowhere and yeah well that's correct if you think about it like that and it's correct if you think about it like that but it didn't say anything all it accomplished
Starting point is 00:49:42 was that everybody remembered that he was still alive. And so you've got this old forgotten man that's descending into oblivion, and this is his Hail Mary pass. He's swinging for the fences on this, and he's trying to get back into the limelight. He's 85, if you're wondering. 85.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. I wouldn't say he looks a day over 180. But, yeah, so he's getting a lot of press lately. Oh, and then Aaron O'Too. tool called on the political leaders try and do these gotcha moments where whenever something doesn't line up with what they think the other person's policies are going to be or their politics are they'll say okay well we call on all the political leaders to condemn this or we call on all the political leaders to support that jag meet sing did it with the vaccine passports
Starting point is 00:50:39 during the election and there's just been a whole line of them all the way down and it's just funny because Erin O'Toole doesn't realize that they just do that against him. It doesn't actually work against them because they don't care. But for him to just say, okay, well, you know what? Maybe I'll just, I'll say this. I'm going to call on all the political leaders to condemn David Suzuki's statements. Well, first of all, they could just go to the direct quote and say he didn't actually really say anything. And secondly, you've got to have the media pick it up and go with it before it gets any
Starting point is 00:51:13 attraction and that's not going to happen. So you need to go in a different direction with this. If you want to try and score political points against the far leftist that he's up against in parliament, you can't do something like that. You need to think outside the box. Quit trying to play their game and do what works for you. And Aaron O'Toole still hasn't figured that out. Don't you think for maybe I'm wrong on this?
Starting point is 00:51:43 I don't know. We'll see how this thought goes. Don't you think for the conservatives? I don't think Aaron O'Toole is that guy, but they just need somebody who speaks a little truth. Just a little. Doesn't have to be full on truth, but just like this is how it is.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think the entire, well, I don't know, I just feel like so many of us just want that, and nobody's doing it. Well, look at Kenny and Doug Ford as examples that I know what's happened in the past and I can't think of any off the top of my head. But where they've actually gone out and been frank with people and been a little bit less ambiguous in their wording and a little bit more straightforward. And then you see, and this is totally anecdotal, but you see a lot of support for them coming up online. People are like, yeah, okay, that actually resonates with me.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Because I think on one hand, people are getting really sick of non-committal word salads. on the other hand you can't really get behind something that doesn't actually say anything and on the other hand the people that they're trying to say is their core base are people that value honest frank look me in the eye shake my hand conversations and they're not willing to do that because they don't want to commit to anything but every once in a while when they accident Dendally veer slightly towards that
Starting point is 00:53:17 You see kind of of this uptick and in positivity towards what they've done You think Hey, hey, you're the political guy Jay Kenney
Starting point is 00:53:26 with leader confidence, votes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm doing blah, blah, blah, blah. Because I really don't fully understand everything that's going on politically. Is he still a leader
Starting point is 00:53:37 of the Conservative Party next year? So... This prediction time. All right. So the election is 2023. So they're pretty much, if this was the states, this would be like their midterms. A year from now, no.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Maybe eight, nine months, yes. Well, isn't it March? Isn't it March when they have the leadership review? Well, oh, the leadership review. I'm not sure if they've settled on a date for that specifically yet. Let's call it April then. Let's not put it. But regardless, they got to go through that to then have it come up where he's,
Starting point is 00:54:12 voted or voted that he's lost confidence, I think, to then have a, if that all comes to fruition, then you can have candidates and vote somebody new into the UCP, correct? Something along that lines? Something along those lines. I'm not quite sure about the timeline of it. Timeline and fair enough. Yeah, okay. So, interesting thing during the, they had their, I don't know, their UCP summit or conference or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:41 This past weekend. Yeah, and they tried to sneak something in the Friday night and up the threshold needed for a non-confidence vote. So it was something like 22 constituencies needed to say, we want a different leader. And they tried to throw something in that said, oh, actually it needs to be 30 or 36 or whatever it was. But they tried to do it Friday night while everybody was out drinking.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And it still didn't pass. You know what's funny about that? It's underhanded. God, that pisses me off because we've seen it, I don't need to host anybody, but we've seen it locally where you have things that get brought up last second thrown into things.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And I'm not talking just this year. I'm talking, you know, this is life, right? You have somebody who tries to sneak something on last second, you're like, why do that? Like, why? Like, obviously for Jason Kenney, it's about power. That's 100% at. Like there's no way to slice it any different way.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Why to sneak something on Friday night and try and be like, oh, we're just going to screw everybody over because I want my job. He'd rather be King of Ashes than a citizen in a society moving forward where people are making themselves better. And Jason Kenney, I said it in a, I have one episode that's called Jason Kenney is a Jason Kenneyist because everything he's done has all been about him. gaining power and it's never been about would this be better for the citizens of Alberta? Like there's not a single thing he's done that maybe you could say like on some really high level
Starting point is 00:56:25 at the early stages you could say okay well that would work better like the war room the war room's a great idea and you're going to throw 35 million dollars a year at that like I could do better Me and twos, we'd probably take five million. We could do a hell of a job with it. Yes, yeah. So the problem with that is. We'd have a kick-ass TV in there and maybe some recliners. Yeah, we'd do it for two years.
Starting point is 00:56:48 We'd each take our $5 million. We'd be like, hey, you know what? We've helped you by leaps and bounds. Vaccination, that's the way. And I'm going to be on a boat for the rest of my life. What the hell is the war room doing? Spending $35 million a year. the odd, poorly thought out statement.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And are they still trying to figure out a logo that doesn't copyright infringed on other people? Or have they finally moved past that? Yeah, it's just been an unmitigated disaster this whole way. You think about it, there isn't a single thing that government has ever been able to do better than the private sector on any level. Oh, that's an interesting question. Have you ever heard of a place called Kitty Hawk? No. Okay, well, that's the Wright brothers.
Starting point is 00:57:41 We're from Kitty Hawk. Okay, yeah, I got you. Okay, so they were bicycle mechanics, because I guess back then bicycles were a bit more complicated. I don't know the finer points of it, but people had actual bicycle mechanics. Jim Taylor in town is a bicycle mechanic. Yeah, but there's a lot more to do it nowadays. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah. So these guys were bicycle. mechanics and at the time there was a department in the U.S. government that was getting crazy amounts of money to try and develop air travel, not space travel, just air travel. Yeah, but back then that was space travel. Yeah, fair enough. And so you've got this government division that just said, here's a buttload of money, get us flying through the air.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yeah. And then you've got these guys who are just saying like, hey, they're doing that. Maybe we could figure it out. Wouldn't that be kind of fun? No one's invented televisions yet. So what else are we going to do at night? And they're the people who developed air flight. And they just did it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 They were just bicycle mechanics. You kind of reminding me of NASA versus Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos, right? NASA's budget has just been astronomical. Huge over the years, and I wasn't even trying to make a joke there. And apparently, not an expert on this, but from what I understand, Elon Musk has been able to save them ludicrous amounts of money because he's able to do what they need far cheaper than they can, even though they had a head start of literal decades. 60 years. Yeah. Well, I mean, 50 years since they've been on the moon.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, but NASA's been around longer than that. Geez. Yeah. So anyway, but you've got, again, a bloated government entity that can't get anything accomplished. And then you've got some guy in the private sector who says, well, these people are idiots. I could do this. 1958. 1958.
Starting point is 00:59:47 July 29th is when NASA started. So 73 years. They've been around a long time. 63 years, yeah. So that's a long time. And Elon Musk is a lot less. than 63 and it's just there's example after example where okay this war room it's it's it's the uh it's what me and geez mike if you're listening to this sitting in mexico kuzmiskis yeah the CEO of icor
Starting point is 01:00:17 you know sitting there probably drinking a pinia calado whatever else it's what me and him talked about if you were the leader of alberta anywhere it doesn't matter right now wouldn't you like put a lot of weight on doctors but i also put a lot of of weight into engineers and well I don't put a lot of weight into engineers but you get you get my point yeah absolutely sit them down and be like listen we got this problem how do we figure how do we how do we get out of this 35 million dollars a year you could get a room full of roughnecks a room full of low level managers and maybe I'm not even kidding right now I'm dead serious oh no no no did I mention that Justin's an engineer oh that's perfect oh that's
Starting point is 01:01:00 perfect. Oh! Everything is clicking. But I mean, couldn't you, couldn't you, like, I mean, $35 million. We could come up with a, we could come up with a very expensive whiteboard and some very nice markers, and we could draw it up very nice. And, I mean, for 35 mil, like, we could make it dazzle. You could get together the brightest minds you know, and you know a lot of bright minds.
Starting point is 01:01:28 and I could get together to some buddies that I drink beer with. We could put a bet on it. We could put a $30 million bet on who can figure it out. Well, honestly, okay, Jason Kenney, if you're listening to this, you suck. But also, here's a proposition for you. Sean and I will take over the war room, and we'll give you about $28 million in change at the end of the year. Yeah, nobody's going to take us up on that, too.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And I can tell you that we will do a better job, off the top of our heads, then whatever the heck that travesty is that you have going on right now, which has just been, I think you'd have to admit, an unmitigated disaster. I just don't know what they're doing. I actually don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Well, it's just kind of classic government things. They're just making money disappear. What have they accomplished? They've had a few poorly thought out press releases that have been picked apart by the NDP. Do you have any idea how badly you need to write something? if a socialist is able to just look at the flaws in it and point them out? The roast of the war room with twos.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I'm not even trying to roast them. I just wrote your new episode. Like honestly. Well, you could break down the war room. I have no idea what the war room's done. I remember the announcement of it. Certainly do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 But since then, what has it done for anybody's life for $35 million? Seriously, they tried to come out with it. a new logo and they met with some copyright infringement issues. They've had a few statements that have been easily refuted or have holes in them and they've said some stuff that was just inconsequential. It's just been, it's been a huge nothing burger and there's so much meat in this topic. There's so many things you can talk about. You've talked about some of them and you've had well you you and people that have come on have talked about them in previous episodes i've pointed out some huge flaws and stuff on my show and that right there is more than that war room has
Starting point is 01:03:41 done well here it's here it's talking about uh the energy war room when we talking about the same one yeah yeah so their their job is to fight disinformation and to promote alberto oil and gas c tv news alberta this $30 million energy war room living up to its intended purpose. There you go. You think the liberals are the only people who get puff pieces? I guess not. Okay, well, okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Great. You, no, okay, just real quick, just real quick, and then we can move on to something else. But here's just one last point on this. You're in the hub of this. You are right in the center. This is probably, this is, this is, this is, this is, One of the ventricles of the oil and gas industry is this city. And you can't even tell me off the top of your head something good that the war room has done.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And I bet you if you asked a bunch of people you work with or the people you see on a regular basis. They probably don't know it exists. Exactly. Now, in fairness, maybe they've donated $30 their million to something in town and I just never heard of it. But it could be possible. I do live in a box. Honestly, the best thing they could do if they wanted to make oil and gas more viable in our Canadian
Starting point is 01:04:59 parliamentary infrastructure, they could spend about $34.5 million of that on a statue of Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Oh, man, here's the first line of this article. Get it? All right, yep, yep. The Canadian Energy Center, or Alberta's Energy War Room,
Starting point is 01:05:20 is aimed at dispelling myths about the province's oil and gas sector, is once again under fire after taking aim at a children's Netflix. film. I do remember that. That's the big foot movie. Right? I haven't watched it. I think it was Smallfoot maybe or something. Oh, it's Bigfoot. Wasn't it
Starting point is 01:05:38 Bigfoot? Okay, yeah. It's, oh, no wait, small foot was a different movie. But yeah. So you can dismiss this as a quote merely as a kid's show, but it's clearly that they've developed, this is a quote, content designed to defame in the most vicious way possible in the impressionable,
Starting point is 01:05:57 minds of kids said, Kenny. talking about the movie Bigfoot. It's Bigfoot. I mean, there's so much more stuff in popular culture and in entertainment and things like that. Like, if you wanted to talk about things that unfairly demonize oil and gas, especially in Alberta that are way out of left field, why not talk about let my people go surfing? So the founder of Patagonia, I can't remember his name. He wrote this really interesting book about how the company came around.
Starting point is 01:06:26 He was Bigfoot family. I know nobody gives two crafts about what you. Sean saying carry on. All right. So, shoot, I can't remember the guy's name, but it's actually a really interesting book about how he started the business. And he basically just started by forging spikes for people to climb the sides of mountains. And then it kind of expanded into that.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And his effort to be as sustainable as possible along the way and some of the pitfalls they've fallen into, hence the name of pitfalls, and things like that. And then at the end of it, with a lot of it, with a lot of, like 30 pages to go on the book he's like oh yeah and by the way alberta oil and gas is evil like where did this even come from like what did are there two books glued together here that i'm reading like it was just it was absurd and it was weird and none of it was backed up by anything because none of this stuff ever is because it falls apart under scrutiny like shit in your hands and do you want to talk do you want to talk about the bc floods
Starting point is 01:07:28 Okay, all right. I mean, we've been going on the war room. The war room, listen, at the end of the day, I don't know how, the only thing I can remember of it is the Bigfoot family. Bigfoot family is what the movie's called. And when he came out and talked about it, and when our leader of our province is talking about a Netflix kids film, get the fuck off the TV, part of the French.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. But honestly, it's the most ridiculous thing to point at and be like you're defaming, whatever. Give me one oil worker who gives two flying craps, what a Netflix film says about what they do. Nobody. It was ridiculous. Now, there's been a ton of talk recently about the floods in BC, people stranded, etc., etc.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Okay, well, it's interesting because it's being chalked up to climate change, right? And one of the big arguments that has been largely uncontested has been that climate change is causing extreme weather events. There's a recent one that came out that I just glanced at cursorily. But to the best of my knowledge, other than that, there have been two papers written ever that have tried to show any correlation between climate change and extreme weather events, and they were dealing strictly with forest fires. And one of them, these are peer-reviewed,
Starting point is 01:08:53 and one of them has this weird syntax garble in the middle of it. and it got published like that and peer-reviewed and nobody at any point said, why don't you just edit out these weird punctuation string? Like it looked like he just kind of fell asleep on the keyboard or his cat wandered across it or something like that. And that's peer-reviewed and it still got published. And then the other one was a few years ago,
Starting point is 01:09:16 it was paid for by the liberals. And so people like Catherine McKenna, who at the time was the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, were touting this as just being like, look here we have proof you plebs we've got this and gotcha and it's all your fault and then somebody went and looked into it and they're like actually almost every single fire in this study was a result of arson and it was never even discussed and there was another new one that just came out a week or two ago and i didn't really read through it but i opened it up and i found a pdf of it
Starting point is 01:09:52 control find and it looked up the word arson and it occurred once in the paper because it was referencing somebody in that sphere who does these studies named Pearson and so arson being part of his last name it showed up in there and yet you've got people being arrested all up and down the west coast for arson trying to start forest fires or starting forest fires just to try and make a name for this or make a case for this extreme weather stuff and so anyway you have people being arrested all up and down the West Coast
Starting point is 01:10:30 yeah I think there was there was one guy in Oregon who got arrested last year and one guy in California I think and I think that guy might have been a proff too at a university There's two people
Starting point is 01:10:45 okay well one was up and one was down he said trying to salvage his being right but the point is is that lots of these fires and I mean we had how many churches burn and we didn't even arrest anybody right but some people have been arrested for this and the source or cause or however they want to word it for a lot of these fires that have been going on these past few years has been arson and a lot of them have been exacerbated by poor forest remanagement and And so anyway, the few studies that have looked at this have looked strictly at forest fires,
Starting point is 01:11:31 and yet people are just anecdotally without ever being challenged saying that all these, quote, extreme weather events are happening because there's 8 billion people on the planet and we're affecting weather. Because when we burn fossil fuels, we're changing the climate, and that's causing things like the floods in BC to happen. well Jesus Christ it happened two weeks after the climate conference in Glasgow where you've got literally hundreds of private planes flying in Canada alone sent sent over 300 people there and we like how many billions of tons of CO2 or
Starting point is 01:12:09 millions probably but how many millions of tons of CO2 entered the atmosphere just so they could go over there and glad hand each other and then two weeks later God says you guys being a bunch of dicks, and they can't even have the self-awareness to say that, according to our own logic, we did this to British Columbia. Nobody cares. Like, I don't think anybody cares. I'm just speaking aloud here, obviously. I go, nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And of all that, what I took was, man, you can really understand what our country's leadership believes we should be educated about, and that is climate. change by sending 300 people. And to give people perspective, right? Like, we sent more delegates than anybody else. There you go. So what is our goal over the next, I don't know, a couple of years until Trudeau has another election, climate change.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Yeah. Well, Stephen Gilwal has been named the Minister of Environment and Climate Change. I can't remember. I'm not sure if they changed the name again. but you picked a Greenpeace radical to be in charge of making decisions regarding the environment you don't want somebody like that
Starting point is 01:13:32 I don't care if he aligns with your politics or not I don't want somebody who fervently aligns with my politics in a position like that I want somebody who's going to make measured balanced choices I don't want someone doing anything based on emotion when the decision accepts, when the decision affects 37 million people.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah, I should point out, when I say nobody cares, obviously people's heartbreak for the people in BC that got affected by the flood. No different than back in the day. I remember watching, Manitoba, the Red River flood, everybody out and watching that and being like,
Starting point is 01:14:13 holy crap, that's a lot of water. Still remember that as a kid. Like, obviously your heart breaks for that. like everybody racing to climate change is like at this point like let's let's like we got have you seen the videos of the roads out the railways out everything else everything's gone just just take a step back from that and think of like what's that going to do to the infrastructure of the interior let alone getting things out to port everything else when you have no road you got no like your railways are down that's going to i'm not saying every railways down i'm not saying every road's
Starting point is 01:14:48 Okay, so then everything's going to move to that. Now it's going to be... Vancouver's one of the busiest ports in the world. Yeah, there's a lot of ports, but like this is billions of dollars worth of stuff travels through Vancouver every year, and it gets on our train lines. And so, you know, we talk about supply chain disruption in the United States, and then even before that with ever given in the Suez Canal, this is just another thing.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And it makes a pretty good case for risk management. in terms of sourcing anything and everything. If everything we get comes from China, what happens if one day China says, screw you? Well, look at phosphorus. Have you heard that? I don't know what we're talking about here. Phosphorus exports, China, 30% of the world's phosphorus.
Starting point is 01:15:38 They supply, and they've, well, the last I'd read on it, I've got to get Vance on to talk about some of these things. Say hi to him for me. You won't even follow me on Twitter. Well, come on, Vance. it out here. Phosphorus is part of fertilizer and a bunch of other things, but for us in this area, you can kind of get the, okay, oh, oh, okay, yeah, fertilizer, all right. Well, China supplies 30% of the world demand, and they're not, they've closed their borders to exports
Starting point is 01:16:08 until June. Oh. So you can imagine. So it's, it's phosphor us and not for you. That's right. Bingo. And so you can imagine what that's going to do, like what are the dominoes that are going to fall from a shortage there? And I don't even know everything that phosphorus does. I just, I just know the immediate impact on farmers from here. It's the middle number in fertilizers, right? Oh, God. I don't know, is it?
Starting point is 01:16:34 Okay. Well, the middle number is usually quite small. So I'm just thinking that while integral, it's probably not going to be as big as, shoot. Well, it's nitrogen, phosphorus. I tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to have Vance. Maybe I'll even get Q on. Yeah, I was just going to say.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And then be like, listen, me and twos were having this discussion, but phosphorus. Can you explain this to me? Yeah, I'm pretty sure Quick Kik is listening to this. Q, could you do a little phosphorus video for us? He is yelling at the dashboard of Blue Ball right now. Hey, Blue Ball. Just being like, you guys! You guys are idiots.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And yeah, we are. That's all right. We're drinking Bohemian because we couldn't splurge on Pilsner. Well, it's not because we couldn't splurge on it. It's because you've got to take a moral stand on some of the. stuff every once in a while. Oh, moral stand. It's not that I disagree with the fact that you're,
Starting point is 01:17:25 it's not as though I think it needs to stay and you have to have that tepee there. It's more of the fact that you're so worried about trying to cater to the woke people that you kind of lost me. I'm not really, like this is a bigger blow than when I found out it got brewed in Alberta. What? You didn't know that? I didn't know that. That's a big blow.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Lethbridge. Really? Yeah. So is that just creative marketing? Like are they genius or once upon a time it was in Saskatchewan? Or they literally have a brewery and like, you know how we can snare all these Saskatchewan folk? By creating a, I got to have them people on. Well, from what I understand, that's a little bit outdated.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Now they brew it in a few different. places. I'm sure. But it was historically done in Lethbridge and I'm guessing it's just where it caught on. Same thing like Bo. Good luck finding it anywhere west of the 4th, right? Now, wait, wait, wait, go back.
Starting point is 01:18:32 What did you say about phosphorus? Where did you find it? Did you find it? We're talking about Bohemian and you blow on your mind on Pilsner. What's this about phosphorus? So the three numbers, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium. So phosphorus is the middle one.
Starting point is 01:18:48 It's usually a lot smaller and from the little bit I understand about horticulture. Dude. It's a lot more important in the early stages of germination as opposed to the maturation of the plant later on. I'm going to have to have a farmer or two on to explain this today. Yeah, if only we knew one. Yeah, only, only. Can we talk about zoos? Okay, so there's a lot of different zoos all over the place who are having animals testing positive for COVID, which is interesting because why even test them in the first place?
Starting point is 01:19:34 But also, I mean, I guess. In fairness, they're testing positive. One of the early guys I had on, I want to say like Nick Hudson maybe, told me it's, to eradicate COVID is impossible. literally impossible because animals can carry that so the fact that you're saying that animals are test positive COVID shouldn't surprise it well at least my audience because we literally have talked about this on here and I was like oh okay and I didn't fully understand and maybe I still don't but the fact that they're vaccinating animals that was okay so this is probably going to be misquoting it poorly but I think the way the conversation went was you guys had said something like even if
Starting point is 01:20:19 everybody just stayed home. Like nobody left their homes for like a year. You could come out and there would still be COVID because it would just be going in it amongst the animal kingdom. And so now you've got places. What if they're taking horse based? Well, it's pretty much the only animal that doesn't seem to get COVID. Does that seem suspicious to anyone?
Starting point is 01:20:44 I feel like Saturday Live could have fun with that skit. Oh, they could have absolutely. Here's the thing is they're taking everything way too seriously. Like if they just wanted to be lighthearted about this. But the thing about it is is that even as you get into the lighthearted stuff, it starts to deviate from what you're allowed to say or what, and not even you're allowed to say, but what you become ostracized for saying.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And people are so worried about being ostracized. Like we can't talk about comorbidities. because that's somehow putting people with them in a bad light. Like, no, no, no. If you're a large person, if you're rotund, you're not being ostracized. You're just ostracized. I'll be here all night, folks.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah. So, yeah. You know, we're worried about vaccinating these animals. And there's, well, it's just an exercise in futility. I mean, like, are you going to go around? There's, look at the wildlife that we live in. There's so much of it everywhere. Dogs, cats, and then as soon as you get out of your backyard.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I don't know the answers. Are animals dying from COVID? I'm very curious. I have no idea. Very few of them live into their 80s, so probably not. Okay. Okay, maybe I'm being a bit dark here. I'm just, actually, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Are animal, like, I don't know. Well, maybe some of them. them die with COVID and that'll be counted as COVID deaths. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if our government's had a few animal deaths counted in the COVID numbers. I mean, we've known that they've been fudged. You don't trust the numbers? Well, it's interesting that we do when we were looking at the COVID deaths, it was people
Starting point is 01:22:43 who died of COVID and died with COVID. And now when we're looking at vaccination deaths, we're not doing the same thing. Like, if you got shot and you had COVID, that's what you died of. if you had stage four brain cancer, as horrible as that story is, you got counted as a COVID death. And the only reason why anything ever came out about it, it wasn't because they felt bad or because they realized there was a mistake. It was because they got caught.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I will 100% agree with you on that comment. Yeah. And so that begs the question, how many more times did it happen? And as bad as what that family went through, I kind of wish they'd have done things slightly differently. And it's a horrible thing to even ask, right? And I mean, but wouldn't it be interesting if they'd have let the governments just run wild with that for like a month?
Starting point is 01:23:40 And all these panic mongers and the media that just if it bleeds, it leads. And if they'd have just let everybody run absolutely amok with, this false narrative of this 14-year-old child dying of COVID. And then after that, 30 days, whatever, have a press conference right before Dina Hinshaw does her daily one. But like, you know, half hour before. Like, yeah, it was our child who died. CBC, CTV and any actual journalists, come check this out.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And then like, yeah, so he. had stage four brain cancer and here's his hospitalization records here's a few CT scans this that whatever else we're not going to take any questions but dina hinshaw might and she's going to be on in 10 minutes i'm a like guy today yeah you are i put my phone on silent but it seems to be a completely pointless gesture i'm not nearly as popular as you are you know i i almost disagree with you on on the 14-year-old kid. Because I thought it was, I mean, imagine being that family. Oh, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I'm not faulting them at all. Absolutely. And I'm really glad that they spoke up. But as the Alberta government, I've said this, and I mean this in, I don't know, I'm trying to be the least dark way possible. Everybody knew they were just waiting for one kid. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because everybody stares at it and goes,
Starting point is 01:25:24 I haven't even been a kid under 19 die from this. What the heck are we doing? So you're just waiting. They just want one because then they're going to say there has been one. Yeah. And so they finally get their one. And they're foaming at the mouth to just like talk about it and let, you know, not leave calling on, you know, and it just goes wild for like.
Starting point is 01:25:42 They were in the starting blocks just vibrating. And then that comes down and the hammer drops like you're a bunch of idiots. and you're looking like it. And Hinshaw's apology was, I don't even know if it was an apology. And I don't even, like, I'm acting like I hate Hinshaw. I just like, I'm just like, where is the compassion in our society right now?
Starting point is 01:26:09 It just feels like it is gone. It's gone and not even in a good way. You could make an argument for entities being in charge of millions of people that there's not a lot of room for compassion because it kind of is a numbers game. You're always going to have people who are poor, people who are sick, people who are dying. Sure.
Starting point is 01:26:28 People who have any multitude of issues. And the idea should be, how can I do the most good with the means that I have, which is tax dollars. And so pissing away $30 million on a war room isn't that, right? Sending 300 people to Glasgow isn't that. But saying, all right, well, maybe if we just took a few bureaucrats out of this who make things worse, who just keep band-aiding over expensive problems with expensive solutions, then we can actually get around to something a little bit more workable. I was just having a conversation with somebody today about garbage people in one of the cities in Alberta.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And what happens is that because once they're under union protection, they're just impossible to get rid of. And so what that city does is they hire contractors from a garbage man pimp company. And then if they're not working out, they can still shuffle them out the door without dealing with the fallout from the union and all the protection that they provide. And so rather than having a fair system, where the workers are being held accountable for the quality of their work. And then judging them on that, they say, okay, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:58 the union has taken that completely out of play. So our only workaround is to essentially have a garbage pimp, which is going to send us new workers. And then after enough time is gone that you get the measure of somebody, then we can decide if we're going to bring them on full time. But they're not going to do that for free. There's an up sale. Maybe it's 10, 20, 50%, whatever their hourly wages.
Starting point is 01:28:19 that company gets to pocket for absolutely no added value other than a workaround for a broken system. And there's just a lot of things where, like, you know, you hear the argument for compassion and you kind of want to side with it. But at the same time, when you're dealing with so many people across such a large area, as really heartless as it sounds, there shouldn't be. much compassion in there. It should just come down to dollars and cents because there's no way you're going to stop everybody from falling through the cracks.
Starting point is 01:28:59 100% safety compliance is infinitely expensive. So it comes back to stats versus emotions. Right? All of COVID, all of Life one can argue is stats versus emotions. Yep. When it comes to COVID, stats and emotions,
Starting point is 01:29:16 right? So you have the stories that pull out your heartstrings and then you just have their overall stats. I always find interesting is AHS, I mean, we're being hard on Alberta government, goes across the board pretty much right now. But AHS, as we sit here with our feet in Alberta,
Starting point is 01:29:38 use stats when it benefits them, and emotion when it benefits them. Never showing the opposite side of stats and emotion. Because there's, I mean, to the one, 14 year old kid, they're hoping, you know, and I'm putting a very morbid thought out there, and I apologize. But they're hoping for the one kid under 20 years old to die, so then they have that stat.
Starting point is 01:30:00 That's the poster child, right? And all it takes is one. All it takes is one. All it takes is one. And then that opens up the, they won't allow the, you know, the 18-year-old myrochiditis athlete who can't play anymore. They don't want that storyline in there because it goes against everything they've built on this side.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And they don't want the stat line of like, whatever the stat line is. Like pretty much 100% safety from kids under 20. And I know that's a little tongue and cheek. I'm sure there's a little more danger in it than that. But you get the idea. You can twist the stats any way you want them. They just don't allow the one side to use stats or emotion either. And they get to use stats and emotion at all times.
Starting point is 01:30:44 That benefits their narrative. And very selectively pick stats. Like that's one of the issues with one of the issues. How much time do you have with Canada in general is that there's not much clarity in a lot of the statistics. Like unemployment levels are based on people who are still collecting employment insurance. And I don't know the finer points of it, but it gets fudgier in Eastern Canada when you deal with fishing. because it's something to do with seasonal employees not counting towards those statistics as well, right? And so if you, if Sean Newman podcast was your sole source of income and then you had to close the doors and you were ineligible for employment insurance, you would not, and you were just sitting at home not working, trying to find a job, you would not count against the employment numbers.
Starting point is 01:31:45 So any contractor or somebody working for their own company, that doesn't count. And also, if you got laid off from your company and your EI ran out, that doesn't count either. So if you got six months worth of the EI and you look for a job for nine months before you find one, for those last three months, you're not part of those statistics. and so anytime you see these numbers coming from the government. They're always twisted. Yeah, there's always this world of asterisks that are invisible behind all of them. And it just, it makes you really wonder, have you ever, when was the last, oh, well, actually, you know what, I don't know, but I don't know if they even still do this or not, but car salesmen, sometimes,
Starting point is 01:32:40 we'll draw this quadrant. They'll take a blank piece of paper and they'll just put a T across it. So you've got four spaces. And then they'll just kind of write in here a little bit and then they'll write in there a little bit. And I read a book on this. It was quite interesting.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Basically the point is that they fill it up with enough random stuff in different spots and it's coming at you so fast that you can't make heads or tails of it. And then when you finally think you've landed on a deal, you're being somewhat hoodwinked. And they come on a little bit further ahead than they could have.
Starting point is 01:33:10 if it had just been a frank honest conversation. And that's the exact same modus operandi that all of our statistics come from. Like, I just touched on it real quick, but all of the COVID deaths were deaths with COVID, but none of the vaccination deaths are, you know, you're not counting if somebody got vaccinated and then they died for some other unrelated thing. Like that kid, was he vaccinated or was he not? I'm not even sure. but if he was vaccinated by the COVID rules it would be counted as a vaccination death right
Starting point is 01:33:48 because he died with COVID so that would have been counted had it not been caught but if he had been vaccinated and then died of stage four brain cancer that wasn't counted right and it's just it's this double standard where you're like okay these are our rules And they work for what we're trying to push. And for anybody trying to ask questions, we've got just a whole bunch of a whole bunch of befuddlement for you. And that's the best we can offer you. And if you want to make an educated stance,
Starting point is 01:34:27 or if you want to figure out exactly what makes sense to you, you can't because we're not going to give you the tools you need to come to those conclusions. It feels like a perfect time to slide into authority as a social contract. You know, we were talking about this before we started, you know, like, everybody's waiting. When is this, you know, like, when does COVID go away? When is, when does this go away what we're in? Like, how does this change? Well, so, I mean, when you think about it, there's more of us than there are of them.
Starting point is 01:35:01 You think? Well, I mean, it depends who you call us and it depends who you call them. but as a general rule there's more of us than there are of them on a lot of different things right but when you think about governments people who are high up in businesses all this stuff there's a lot more boots on the ground than there are boots on the podium next to the podium whatever then this come back to jim brower's video that i showed you before the the twitter thing if you keep us separated it don't really it don't really matter because you got to get as far as people in a country go, there is way more of us than them being the politicians, being the
Starting point is 01:35:42 leaders. The thing is, we're so at each other right now. Like, we're fighting over everything. It's a perfect storm. So, granted, my bias is going to show a little bit, but at what point in this conversation has it not? I would argue that more libertarian and to some extent right-leaning politics, you know, lend themselves to just getting along,
Starting point is 01:36:10 whereas left-leaning politics, and I would say also the media, thrive and succeed in environments where people are fighting, where there's war, where there's strife. You look at, well, I mean, like I said before, if it bleeds, it leads, right? And if you just had a news program that said, yeah, everything was happy today and people had a great time, now we're going to do the weather.
Starting point is 01:36:33 If me and twos are running, global amminton or whatever the news agency is how do we define success how do mean you define success well it's a business so it comes down to how much money we make which translates down to how many people are watching this which translates down to how many people feel as though they need to watch it and if it's just some happy puff piece all the time because we're living in a utopia no one's really going to give a crap about the news because everything's good but if everything's constantly changing in flux, people are fighting. So you're going along and you're seeing this little line, right?
Starting point is 01:37:10 It's pretty flat. Every once in a while I have a little spike and every time it goes down and for the most part it's pretty flat. And then all of a sudden you hit this topic and it goes right to the top of the ladder. Well, you're going to do everything you can to keep promoting it because that is buying you your third home in the Hamptons. Well, I tell you what, I'm not going to single out news for it. Look at what the podcast is done.
Starting point is 01:37:32 We're going along and we're having a lot. I feel like we're having lots of success. Okay. And then we had on Andrew Liebenberg. And not only did it pecue my interest, it pequeed my audience's interest. And there was a jump. I would say, to be totally fair, though, the next guess you had after Andrew Liebenberg was also pretty good. So, you know, maybe you're correlating, but you might be off by a week or two.
Starting point is 01:37:59 No, actually, that was a really good interview. And the funny thing about it is, like, you've been talking about this stuff pretty regularly. And, like, I was kind of going into this thing and, like, what am I going to talk about? This guy is the expert on this stuff because you've had everybody on here. Listen, I'm no expert. I'm far from an expert. I just talk to a lot of people. I'm just as confused as everything else.
Starting point is 01:38:25 I want things to go back to the way they were. There's no going back. All we got is going forward. So we get to choose how we put. on. And when it comes to media, let's, if it bleeds, it leads, you've said that multiple times. And it's like, well, what we understand is, is people tune into something they're interested about.
Starting point is 01:38:48 So if they're interested in, you know, light and fluffy, they would do that. And chances are the news agencies would lead with that. But the truth of the matter is, they want to know about some of the, well, they want to know about the scary stuff going on. Well, the scary stuff, the darkness, the spin, right? So. Well, then there's the spin. And that's what's interesting to me.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Because the spin keeps, the spin isn't about having that new news piece. It's also about having next week's news piece and the news piece after that. Right. So, okay, this Kyle Rittenhouse thing, right? So. It only took us an hour and 35 minutes to get there, but sure, written house. Yeah. Well, I've been waiting for a segue, I guess, or something.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I don't know. But so kind of a dark thing. You've got a kid that rightly or wrongly, whatever else. No, tell us the story. No, no, tell everybody the story. Obviously, my American listeners know all about written hosts. And I would say that majority of my audience has at least some knowledge of it. But at the same point in time, who cares?
Starting point is 01:39:56 Tell us the story. Okay, so kid was 17 at the time, lived out of state, but went into, that state, which I think was Wisconsin, so you probably know a little bit more about it geographically, but he got an AR-15 that he had been storing at his uncle's farm in that state, and they had some family businesses that they were concerned about during the Black Lives Matter riots and the Antifa riots. And so they had been at one and they were going to another one, and he got outright attack. This is a guy walking down the street with an AR-15, which, while functionally isn't a terrible weapon by any means.
Starting point is 01:40:37 As anybody can tell you, 223 isn't exactly. I mean, it's not a big game thing. And honestly, I wish it was 1,000 smaller. Because then it would be 222. But anyway, he was attacked by multiple people, shot and killed two of them, shot another one in the arm who had pulled a gun on him.
Starting point is 01:41:02 And it became this huge political, thing and the trial was an absolute farce. He ended up being acquitted of all charges and it ended up being this huge uproar. And interesting side note, the people he killed weren't exactly awesome people. One of them was a convicted pedophile. Were they all white? Yes, they were. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Which shouldn't matter. And honestly, it shouldn't matter. And it shouldn't matter that he was a convicted pedophile either in terms of this. you can say a lot about whether I know what Tanner from Viking Jim would say when it comes to pedophiles. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:41:42 my personally, I don't think he should have lived long enough to get to the protest, but the fact that he was a pedophile shouldn't matter in terms of the murder trial, murder trial is where I'm going with this. Right? But anyway,
Starting point is 01:41:54 he was acquitted of all charges and it ended up being this huge thing. But meanwhile, you had people on the same day being acquitted of murder charges, for self-defense who are African-American in the States, but they don't get nearly as much coverage. Now, Colton Bushey, five years ago...
Starting point is 01:42:14 That should be a name this area knows a lot about. Yeah, just over five years ago, there was a bunch of puff pieces about it being the five-year anniversary of him being killed in bigger, or around bigger, I guess. Yeah. So him and a few friends, I think there was four or five in total. had they were just out booze cruising and again something everybody around here probably knows about they had a gun with them they got a flat tire they went on to somebody's farm tried stealing a
Starting point is 01:42:48 vehicle couldn't get it went out to the next farm they were trying to steal an ATV and then there was an altercation with the farm owner and his son and Colton Bushey got shot and killed. That happened August 2016. In October of 2016, in Bonneville, which is about 300 kilometers away from bigger, maybe, like as the crow flies. I could tell you, I could find out for if you like. Yeah, we'll call it 300 kilometers and someone's going to be like, it's 308.7.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Stop lying to me. Fact checking you. Yeah. So anyway, and it's totally going to be nernzy. but anyway so two months later you've got the exact same story
Starting point is 01:43:36 where two First Nations 3,774 is that as the crow flies because I said as the crow flies okay anyways you're fucking wrong all right 374 that's what you're at okay
Starting point is 01:43:50 all right so less than 400 kilometers away because the thing about this this is national news and we're one of the biggest I'm being a jackass. So the point is, is that these things happen in their practical doors, like practically their own backyards. In a country the size of Canada, it's pretty much neighbors.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Yeah. Yeah. And within two months, you've got, so the first thing was First Nations people going on to White Guys farm, which as far as I'm concerned, doesn't matter. But the whole point is just how this whole thing got spun. Is two months later, two First Nations people, a brother and sister, again, young adults, went on to Alfred Wagner's farm.
Starting point is 01:44:29 You guys can fact check the hell out of this. And you're not going to be able to argue about whether it's 374 kilometers or whatever. This stuff is out there, but it's, it was completely ignored. Google it, though. So they go on into his farm, kill him, steal his truck. It was like this 40-year-old Dodge pickup truck that, according to the CBC article, people could hear coming from miles away, right? But they went on to his farm and killed him for his vehicle and then used it to go back home.
Starting point is 01:45:04 And Colton Bushy was national news. You had Jody Wilson Raibold and Justin Trudeau issuing statements about how they didn't agree with what the jury had to say about it. And it was all about this huge propping up of this First Nations versus white people narrative where everybody's at their throats. And there's all this inherent racism in the same. system and you have the exact same story with the exact same lead up and the exact opposite outcome happening within two months and a few hundred kilometers of that incident and you've got to look on the back pages of the local newspaper to get any background on it because nobody picked it up because hey it's it wasn't the story that was going to sell newspapers exactly because the star phoenix and
Starting point is 01:45:55 the Leader Post and the National Post and the Sun and whoever else aren't going to sell nearly as many copies talking about how, hey, you know what, this can go either way. And here's the thing is dealing with the podcast, I can kind of feel the same. Well, obviously, I'm getting a taste of it. Like I can understand. I'll give you the two doctors. Andrew Liebenberg was fantastic. Yep.
Starting point is 01:46:25 And obviously people can't see me, but just think of the viewership was here, you know, partway up the mountain. Okay. Cool. A month in advance, I interview Eric Payne. He said very similar things to Andrew Liebenberg, but now he's at the Children's Hospital in Alberta Children's Hospital in Calgary, instead of in Vermilion, Alberta. And the views go from here to through the rooftop. Yep. What's the difference?
Starting point is 01:46:54 What they said? they're both doctors. It's all about position and the position they hold and everything else. Because they're both the first interview with the guy talking about something that was very, I don't know, like they're both very well spoken. They both said very similar things. They didn't say anything controversial,
Starting point is 01:47:11 but they talked about something that we see is controversial. That's right. And so as a, I don't know, like am I a media outlet there? Yeah, absolutely. Well,
Starting point is 01:47:21 if I'm a media outlet, then I'm, I'm, um, look at this place. I do this off of my dining room table and I come in here and you've got all this awesome stuff on the wall and it's painted nicely and you've got the, like, there's a television up there. Ask, ask me who did all the work. Pardon me? Who did all the work? Well.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Okay, Windsor Plywood did the table. Shut up to Windsor. All right. You got me there. Okay. Yeah. Beautiful. and if you if you okay a couple more shutouts then to spot okay the window the wall quote the
Starting point is 01:47:59 smp logo read and write signs okay fair anything else you're gonna call me up who built that fridge i didn't you built that fridge well what do you know about free on i ordered it jackass yeah i know this this thing's absolutely astounding i come i came in here and i was just blown away but yeah so you You got a, if you've got stuff that's this sexy, you've got to say that you're at least somewhat media. I don't know. I, sure. Yeah, it's, it's goddamn impressive. It didn't have Bohemian until you walked in, so.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Ever? No, ever. Really? Yeah. This is a first. You're a first. You got to have people in here that aren't engineers. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:48:55 And you were telling me before we started, what's the road out in Quebec that's open? Roxham Road. You got to, before I let you out of here, you got to talk about this for a few minutes. Okay, so a Roxham Road, which sounds like an 80s. Rock band. Yeah, that too. Yeah. It's where people were illegally crossing and they were claiming asylum.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Claiming asylum from the United States of all random places. but they came presumably from not directly from Nebraska, but some other countries and then they land in the United States, which you'd think they'd be safe there, but they cross over the Canadian border and now they can claim asylum here and then fall underneath that whole gamete of stuff. So nobody checks their paperwork.
Starting point is 01:49:47 And here's the thing about immigration is it's actually a pretty good thing. It's insular economies, when you look at even China, maybe a thousand years ago or something like that, when they decided to be really isolationist, they were super advanced. They had gunpowder and paper. And then they just said, no, no, no, we don't want to hear anything from you people. And you people can't say anything to us. Yep, you people.
Starting point is 01:50:19 I wish I could dub in Don Cherry every time you say that, you people. Anyways, get around. I should do that with my point. podcast. You people. Well, I mean, I say it every episode, right? So anyway, but as soon as they became really insular and isolated, isolationist, I think is the term. They kind of fell behind and everybody else surpassed them greatly, right? And so you need the sharing of ideas. You need as many different people coming in from as many different places as possible with as many different ideas, but you also need to check their paperwork on the way in. And that's kind of it. And that's kind of it.
Starting point is 01:50:56 And so anyways, Roxham Road ended up being this free-for-all where you just show up and the RCMP is there to take their baggage. You had people complaining. There was a news article where people were complaining because there wasn't halal food options
Starting point is 01:51:11 at the illegal border crossing. Can you imagine if there was a Roxham Road going to the United States right now? Give it a few years. That's going to be a two-way highway, man. It might be. How many people have you heard leaving Canada right now.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I can honestly tell you that if I didn't have familial obligations here, I would not be in Canada. 100%. I would be in either Georgia or Texas. Georgia.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Or, pardon me, Florida or Texas. Florida or Texas. Yeah. Yeah, and I know... It's got to be one of the strangest things going on right now. Yeah, so I know... very quietly there are people leaving Canada because they don't like where we're at. And some of the worst parts of it, and I don't know, I'm not saying that they're better than
Starting point is 01:52:08 anybody else for any other reason, but I know some really solid up-and-coming people who are going places in the business community that have decided to go places that aren't Canada. And so you've got Not necessarily all of But you've got some of our best and brightest Who have just said this is not an environment conducive to me Bettering myself
Starting point is 01:52:33 But then also Because it's not even just the oppressive lockdowns And everything like that It's the horrible taxation system It's the over-regulation It's this giant Smorgas board of bullshit On every possible level
Starting point is 01:52:50 where anybody who wants to make something of themselves goes somewhere else. It's like a union. It's wild to watch. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, I definitely know of a few people that have left and some of them have been, I'm getting the hell out of here.
Starting point is 01:53:08 And some of them have been, well, there's just much better opportunity here that I'm going to take. And the net result is the same. It's a distinction without a difference. The point is that the opportunities aren't here. You look at investment. How many people do you even know,
Starting point is 01:53:22 right now that have investments that are significant in Canada at all. Like lots of people have just taken where even if it's in mutual funds, they're going to say, okay, well, you know what, I want something that's going to focus on the US and they probably pulled out of those in the last year and they've gone international with it. Or they're going to Bitcoin or, you know, Dogecoin or Shiva coin or any Shiba coin, I think it is, any number of the cryptocurrencies because they're immune to quantitative easing. right and so you've just got all this this brain drain and this capital drain and everything is going anywhere else and like i don't care where it is zimbabwe denmark leichtenstein it's just going to
Starting point is 01:54:10 disappear to nothing if it stays in canada and it has nothing to do with the opportunities here it has nothing to do with the people or the um the people or the geography, the natural resources, it's all about the regulation and the oppressive nature of our government on all levels. Look at the municipal elections here. We had Amarjit Sohi elected as the Edmonton mayor, and that guy was a disaster. like that just honestly i don't know why whoever was running up against him didn't just be like okay well here's just a few random clips are you really going to vote for this idiot that's all you needed to win except for the fact that there was the packs that were supporting him and jody gondack
Starting point is 01:55:07 it's tough to beat a million and a half dollar election purse when are we doing this again to honestly this is so i mean for anybody listening to we are in the studio and we haven't done one of these here. The first two we did were just, yeah. But I happened to be in town and the timing worked and we did like four episode two, two, two. And honestly, you could have me on every week and I'd be happy. So I guess the question is going to be,
Starting point is 01:55:48 and you talk to your listeners a lot more than I talk to your listeners, although we've got a lot of bleed over. Yeah, we do. Yeah. But I'd say the next time. the next time something's coming up in the world where you just think twos is the guy to talk to about this you know you just put the two signal in the sky and you'll come run yeah you bet you yeah i got a even if even if i'm 100 miles away well 100 miles isn't that far nowadays
Starting point is 01:56:18 even if i'm on the other side of something else i think we got to do all these in person now because it's a completely different feel yeah absolutely Listen, if I had the money, if I had Joe Rogan money, let's just say I had Joe Rogan money. Even if you had CNN money. Yeah, true. I'd bring everybody to me. Wouldn't even be a question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Because in studio feel is like 999 million times better than any Zoom call. And Zooms can be good. We've had good. Like, there's nothing wrong with Zoom. But to sit across from somebody to share a beverage. Yeah. To see what they're doing and everything else to feel it. Like, there's energy.
Starting point is 01:56:57 It's great. It's fantastic. So then I got to slide into the Crude Master Final Five, which, you know, shout out to Heath and Tracy, supporting the podcast since the very beginning. I've been wondering since I started this endeavor what possible question I could ask you. And I think I was wondering that too. Really? Well, I was just like, where is he going to go with this, right?
Starting point is 01:57:19 Well, you know, normally it's, you know, who would you sit down with? And I really like that question because I'm always curious who wants to. you know, like what person you really like to sit down with and pick their brain. But, you know, we're getting close to Christmas. We're getting into like these weird times. I was seeing this to a buddy of mine. It reminds me of what's the movie with Steve Carell and Ryan Gosling, and it's all about the housing crisis in 2008?
Starting point is 01:57:53 Oh, shoot. You know what I'm talking about? I haven't seen it. You haven't seen that movie? No. Oh, two. There's a lot of movies I haven't seen. Here goes my story.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Okay, well, let's... No, no, I'm going to find it here. Gosling movie. Yeah. He wasn't... Steve Carell wasn't the girl in the notebook, was he? The Big Short. You haven't seen The Big Short?
Starting point is 01:58:22 No, I haven't seen The Big Short. Holy crap. That's based on a book by the same guy who... Did the Moneyball thing, right? Okay, so literally, in the big short, they're at this point. Ryan Gosling is telling Steve Karel, like, listen, you see all this system here? It's built upon the idea of this, but this idea is shit, and he just swipes it away. And he goes, so the housing market is about to crumble.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Steve Krell's like, you're kidding, right? And they go back and forth, and they have this, like, lovely dialogue. It's great acting. So then anyways, they all short it, right? They're going to short the housing market. fast forward and Steve Carell is losing his absolute uncontrollable part in the French shit okay because the rate where we're at we're we're just sitting there and going like what are we like what is the world doing like we can see that this is should all fall but the world won't let it
Starting point is 01:59:18 and that's what happens in that movie is the world holds together this like falling house of cards and the government keeps propping it up because it doesn't want to fall and the entire movie's about like the entire system just like falling apart and a few people understanding that steve corral being one ryan gosling be another christian bail being another right is a fantastic movie oh it's got bad man oh yeah that's probably where he got his bruce wayne money was from the housing short from the housing short but he has this one point where he's just like what is going on like i don't get it the entire system has fallen apart but here we're we're we sit and nothing's happened.
Starting point is 01:59:58 And here we sit and nothing's happened. So, World War I was just a bunch of people sitting in trenches, right? Yeah. Defense of war. Yeah. And so, you know, it took, it took that big push and those big casualties and something really, really disruptive to actually get people out of that because they could
Starting point is 02:00:25 just sit around in that trench for a while, right? And don't get me wrong. They sucked. They were not good trenches. They're not these cushy trenches that the liberals live in. Yeah. Right? Where they're just like, oh, we've got avocados.
Starting point is 02:00:39 But you guys can have quack grass, right? So the thing about it is is there's just this. You got to go watch a big short. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm going to check it out. Come on. Come on. Maybe I'll even live tweet it when I go.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Okay. Yeah. I might watch it at the same time as you. Okay. So here, like, you've got all these. Screen share, Zoom. We can watch together. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Something like that. Anyways, carry on. Okay. So you've got all these. We're apart, but, you know, high five, air five. Carry on. Okay. So, circling back.
Starting point is 02:01:20 I'm going to sound like Jen Pesacki here for a minute. So there's so much stuff in our federal, provincial, municipal government that's just absolutely broken and there's no accountability for any of it and it's because we've let the people in it decide what rules they want to abide by and it's just going to keep going until somebody enough people just walk away from it or it just becomes so expensive to the point where they say you know what we can't just give everybody everything like this is what jerry ritz was talking about right where it's not so much
Starting point is 02:01:59 we're going to try and decide what's going to work for you. It's just anything you want, you can have it. I don't care what it costs. And yeah, that gets people elected. And that's the problem. People don't see an issue with that. And so it's going to take that brain drain of our best and brightest leaving. And it's going to take the droves of hardworking people saying,
Starting point is 02:02:26 I can make a better living in another country. and then it's eventually going to become either areas or entire provinces or a whole segment of them saying, look, we're tired of being a colony. We can't pay for all of this stuff anymore. This isn't Hunger Games where like District 14 or whatever it is. Yeah, like honestly, if, yeah, it wouldn't be an awesome idea and it would get picked apart pretty easy. But it would be kind of funny if Jason Kenney put forth a bill, to rename Alberta District 14.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Because it's not too far from the truth. We send everything we got out to another place where we never see any benefit from it. And at some point, at what point do you say enough is enough? Here's the line in the sand. And some people are just going to say, I'm not going to walk over that line. I'm not going to let you cross this line.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And some people are going to say, I'm just going to leave the beach. Well, then here's your final question. All right. You know, we've gone a long, winding. Oh, this has been a fun journey. Yes. With Naria Strait Road.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Which province is the first stand-up? Saskatchewan and Alberta. You're sitting right on the border. Is it going to be Scott Moe or is it going to be Jason Kenney? It's going to be neither one, but it's going to be Saskatchewan. You say, oh, no, Scott Moe. You're saying Scott Moe isn't the guy? No, it's got to ferment for a while before it's going to be ready to drink.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Oh, God. You know how many. Whose that is? It's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. The nice thing about Saskatchewan is with Ryan Maley, Mealy, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it, the NDP leader. He's done absolutely nothing to ingratiate himself to the voters.
Starting point is 02:04:14 And the last two or three leaders have lost their seat in elections, where they didn't even win to be the leader after the election. and so they're becoming less and less relevant. The problem is you've got a very deep-seated and bloated public sector. But you don't have those huge municipalities. You don't have Calgary and Edmonton, which is half the population of Alberta, leading the charge and saying, let's just spend money on everything.
Starting point is 02:04:45 You've got a lot more pragmatism in terms of proportionality in Saskatchewan, and that's why I would say it would go first. You know, you talk about leaders not winning their writings, Yeah. What did you think of Maxine Bernier, not winning his riding? Honestly, I think Maxine Brunier, that was an absolute win for him. He came out of nowhere. Well, it's same thing with Maverick Party, right?
Starting point is 02:05:11 Like, these people are coming up out of nowhere fighting some really entrenched establishments that have nothing but partisan colors. All right. You ever, what's the last thing the Oilers did that you disagreed with? Hmm. What was the last thing the Emmington Oilers did that I disagreed?
Starting point is 02:05:35 Anything. We talking players? We're talking anything. Any decision? Getting rid of Ryan Smith. No. COVID vaccine mandate. Imprimoring Vax pass.
Starting point is 02:05:46 I honestly. I hated you lay up. No, I just, you know where, I think most people understand where, anytime you divide the population, I think it's ridiculous, test everyone at this point. We know if you're vaccinated,
Starting point is 02:05:57 you can carry it. If you're unvaccinated, you can carry it. If it's about COVID, then test everyone. If it's not about that, then let's carry on with life. Okay. So you could admit that the oilers screwed up. Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Okay. So there's a lot of people that carry flags for every party. And not even just in Canada, Democrats, Republicans, the Labor Party in the UK, you name it. That just when their party does something they disagree with, they just hold their nose and go along with it. We had an election where if you just did like a blind Coke or Pepsi taste test on the platforms, if you just took away all the letter heads. Nobody could figure out what the heck it was. You'd look at all of it.
Starting point is 02:06:38 You wouldn't be able to tell where the conservative party was. You'd be like, okay, well, I don't know. This one has something in socks. So it might be Justin, maybe. But you kind of look at the big three. You look at the big three and they're kind of indistinguishable. The NDP is a little bit more crazy, right? The leadership debate was hurt my brain
Starting point is 02:06:59 Because you had Quebec The Block Who's the guy from the He was actually Sadly Or maybe surprisingly He was my favorite
Starting point is 02:07:10 At the entire debate I actually thought what he said Was like Actually that's pretty good But I have no idea why As a country Just think of this You have a guy up there
Starting point is 02:07:19 Who says I actually don't want to lead the country What the heck do you got the guy up there for Anyways It's a leadership debate Put Bernier up there. But the only reason, they stifle Bernier, which is, come on, that doesn't pass the smell test right there. No, it absolutely did not.
Starting point is 02:07:36 They basically just kind of twisted themselves into pretzels to justify him not being there because he needed to pull at less than 5% based on any two of 23 different holes. Here's the rules, and we're going to make it so he doesn't get there. But we're still going to have the block guy on who says, in the debate. I don't want to lead the country. I think it's ridiculous. I had absolutely no issue with that. The whole point of the debate.
Starting point is 02:08:04 He can be a leader, but why does he need to lead the entire country? His entire platform is that he's going to look after Quebec. If I went up there and I said, if I was the anti-hockey party, and I said no one's allowed to play hockey, all these jerseys come down. They have two debates, one in French, one in English. The whole point is to give you a taste to who could be the leader of the country. country. It's a federal vote of who's going to lead it. You have a guy on there and goes, yeah, I don't want to lead the country. Okay, so what if Jay Hill is up there?
Starting point is 02:08:35 I think it'd be ridiculous. I think you put the Maverick in the same boat as the block. Throw them out the door. If they don't want to lead the country, get them out the door, put people in who want to lead the country. Here's the thing is we are a huge country. Okay, well, then put everybody up there. Yeah, absolutely. What's wrong with that? I don't know. Honestly, you mean to tell me that the leader of the rhinoceros party couldn't go up there and say less ums than Justin Trudeau? Have them all up there. No, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Everybody put some daylight on everybody who has an interest in this stuff. I'm so frustrated with the entire Canadian. Like we act like we're such a smart fucking country. We're not. And then we do something stupid. Like we literally hold a party off of there who's polling as good or better than the Green Party. And it's like, so why is the Green Party there? Can anybody like honestly?
Starting point is 02:09:26 tell me why they're there no nobody can tell me that other than they've been around okay so great so it's an old boys club is that that's what gets you on the leadership debate that's why quebec's there because to me i go like we got the green party listen everybody knows green party is never it's either put everybody up there for the love of god or put the conservatives and the liberals and just say the two the two parties that pull the highest are going to be up there at least then it's some clear, hey, the whole point in that election had nothing to do with anybody else but those two, did it not? Did it not?
Starting point is 02:10:05 Honestly, you couldn't put, you couldn't put this coaster between the two of them in terms of their platform. It doesn't matter. At least we could have heard them speak a bit and we could have been like, oh, God, this is terrible. Did you vote for anybody else? You voted for Maverick? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:17 You think by putting Maverick up there all of a sudden it changes things? There's going to be a whole lot of people who are listening. east of Manitoba that don't care about the thing he has to say. And guess what? That's the same thing it was before he went up, and it'll be the same thing he says afterwards. They, yeah, it's, so look, I don't really,
Starting point is 02:10:40 I can't fault Quebec for having a party that says, we're going to have somebody who looks after our interests. No, I'm not faulting for that. I'm not even faulting for them for being at the election. I'm faulting Canada for allowing them to be at the election. You should be able to run on any platform you want. 100%. I make it mandatory that nobody is allowed to drink anything else but bohemian.
Starting point is 02:11:02 At least Saskatchewan is like, what the hell has you done? I'm not faulting. I'm not faulting Quebec for being there. I'm faulting Canada. For allowing a free and honest democracy? Oh, is that what we're going to call this? We won't allow, we won't allow Maxine Bernier up there, though. So is that free?
Starting point is 02:11:20 Okay. Come on. I'm saying, no, no, no, I'm not, I know. But we're picking and choosing. I'm saying you should have had all of them. I'm saying you should have had all of them. And you're saying you should have had all of them but the frog. And I appreciate them.
Starting point is 02:11:32 No, no, no. I'm saying if you allow the frog up there, you might as well allow the Bernier to be up there. You might as well allow. Like the rules seem like they only apply to some. So I'm saying let's make them clear. That is Canadian law. Look, the rule is we're going to have the top three parties.
Starting point is 02:11:50 The top five, I don't really care. But then you can't say, well, the green. is there because of whatever. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't make any sense how they pick their leadership debate. Another thing that really makes zero sense to me is why there's only two debates. Why is it they get to have two debates, one in English, one in French, and that's it. Why aren't they having debates? I don't know. More people speak Ukrainian in Manitoba than they speak French. Why don't they have four or five debates? Why don't they have one in every second province or something.
Starting point is 02:12:24 How about this? So that you could like literally, you know, like, Frigg, you hear one debate on, like it's just, it hurts my brain how stupid we are at times. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay, well, how about this? We include everybody and we have a playoff bracket debate system. Well, now you're playing.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Yeah. They will never allow that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because people would enjoy it. It would be fun. No, because we engaged. But Justin Trudeau would be out. The first round against the Edmonton Oilers.
Starting point is 02:12:56 We would do what they did in New Jersey and have the truck driver win an election. Tews is all sudden ascending and he's this unstoppable force coming out of the west. Can you imagine? I'd have to become a truck driver. Can you imagine how have we not talked about the truck driver in New Jersey? Well, because I don't know what we're talking about here. I know about the cat in Alaska. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 02:13:15 But I don't know about the truck driver in New Jersey. Truck driver, New Jersey. I apologize, folks. I should have had this pulled up. with twos. Here. Here. Here's the headline.
Starting point is 02:13:28 New Jersey truck driver who stunningly unseated states number two Democrat wants to have beer with them. Perfect. Well, that's whatever. When was the last time you had a politician
Starting point is 02:13:38 that had scuffed old steel-toed boots? We get these pedigreed people that have no idea what it's like to live in a regular world. This is the guy who lost. Yep. Was the longest serving Senate president in New Jersey history
Starting point is 02:13:53 Oh, God. I got to find a better article. You don't know what the hell I'm talking about? Not at all. Guy ran on 100. What's the storyline? $158 is what he spent on flyers and I think donuts for his people that were helping out. Nice.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Wins the election. Did he get some cops to help him? I don't know. Actually, you know what? That'd be counterintuitive. I don't think $158 where the donuts would go very far. Okay, let's see here. Um, it says today in New Jersey, the Republican challenger for governor has, uh, conceded the race to Democratic incumbent Phil Murphy, but the second most powerful Democrat in the state, the president of the state Senate was toppled by an unknown truck driver with a assorted history of offensive tweets from, uh, member, uh, did he.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Don't be the real stutter in New Jersey. Where is his name? assorted history of offensive tweets I could be in charge of New Jersey God I should have vetted the stories I should have find it out like I can't believe you know this after spending just $153 on campaign truck driver beats New Jersey Senate president
Starting point is 02:15:09 that's perfect I love those Cinderella stories right where yeah you've got some guy who's just entrenched a New Jersey longest running state Senate president has lost his seat to a truck driver who reportedly spent only $153 on Duncan and paper flyers over the course of his campaign. Oh, that's wonderful. Here's to you, buddy, whoever you are. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:15:34 That's what you want in Canada. Anyways. Okay. So how come you always get to ask the questions? Oh, because that's why it's always been. Okay. Well, okay. Would you like to flip the script on this one?
Starting point is 02:15:49 I would love to ask you a question. I've been wondering about this for a little while. Okay, you get five minutes. Okay, five minutes. And then I got to boot you. World famous hockey player. So this is the crewmaster final one. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:03 On the Sean Newman podcast, spoke to you by 222 on. Yeah, you got it. Here we go. Fire away. Okay. Sean Newman, world famous hockey player played from Wisconsin to Finland and all kinds of places in between, right? You got your tooth fixed.
Starting point is 02:16:19 You had the classic hockey player misinfluenced. tooth forever. How long has it been since you got that tooth fixed? How long has it been since I got it fixed or how long has it been missing? Since you got it fixed? Uh, two months. Okay. How did you lose that tooth? Oh, all right. Sure. Um, when I was 18, uh, I got two slap shots to the face within, I don't know, maybe six months of each other. Okay. And, uh, the first one knocked out my bottom set or part of my bottom set and then the top one uh didn't knock it out it bent them all in and then you know i had a christian dentist and i say that because he was kneeling after hours on the dentist chair as we've all been in reefing on my mouth and a couple of swear words came out of
Starting point is 02:17:12 his mouth so you can imagine what that experience was like i wore braces on the top set for a while and I don't know I just yeah like two slap shots okay see that's interesting because your brothers had hinted in one of the round tables that it was at a party or something yeah so so after I lost my top tooth
Starting point is 02:17:37 I was 18 19 whatever I was and I used to go around parties I was single and so I'd make up cockamamie stories as to how I lost it. So my favorite one was a girl came up to me and bar and asked how I lost it. She's a pretty girl and whatever. And I said, oh, yeah, I'm a marine biologist. And the sea was angry that day.
Starting point is 02:18:04 And I just walked away. And, you know, I always wondered what her face looked like. She probably just thought I was an asshole or whatever. Another good one was a shuffleboard accident, right? I had a girl believe in a shuffle. I used to mess around with what the best story I could come up with losing the tooth was. That was just absolutely absurd. Just to see if people would go along with it.
Starting point is 02:18:28 So a shuffleboard, the Marine biologist, I messed around with that, a whale, the sea, a couple different ways of slicing that. Yeah. So like the brothers and me joke about that from time to time. Oh, that's where they were going with it. Yeah, because when I was young, before I met my wife, That's, I used to, I don't know, I don't know if I was interested in picking up women or not. I was just more interested in having fun. Having fun with the stories.
Starting point is 02:18:53 Yeah, yeah. I tried convincing people for a while that my dad was Toby Keith and it didn't really take off. Why Toby Keith? Well, because it's not a logical first choice. So it sounds believable. Not like I tried to, but same kind of story. You know, you're talking to some pretty girl at a bar and just be like, oh, yeah, what do you do? Oh, well, my dad's Toby Keith.
Starting point is 02:19:16 No, what do you do? Well, that's basically about it. I'm Stobie's illegitimate stepson. Yeah. Okay, see, now I was thinking where the story was going to go was that you were just, you know, like I said, world famous hockey player. And from the sound, you know,
Starting point is 02:19:35 just because what was implied that you just lost it in some completely unhockey-related thing. Oh, no, it's completely hockey. Okay. Two different clappers to the face. really did me in. I don't know about world famous hockey player. I always say I'm very careful because any hockey player that looks me up is going to go,
Starting point is 02:19:57 this guy didn't even play pro. Like, I mean, and so like world famous, yeah. No, my claim to fame is I always told myself as a kid, I wanted to play, if I ever could experience playing pro hockey, what that meant to me was getting paid to play, I didn't have to pay them to pay. So they paid me a paycheck. I got to do that.
Starting point is 02:20:18 I still rode a bike to the rink. And I still, you know, had to work a part-time job, but I got living expenses paid for and got to go to the other side of the world and play very good hockey and everything else. I not made it, but that would be, you know, a check that most people don't get. That's pretty made it.
Starting point is 02:20:39 And so I got to do that. But world famous, not even close. Like there's so many people, so many hockey players that have played far, far better hockey than I have. I just, I had a different perspective. I knew I, you know, I'm five foot, you know, seven on a good day. And so right away, I mean, there's very few guys. Theo Fleury was on the podcast a couple episodes ago. And you got to remember that guy was playing in the best league known to man at five foot six.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Yep, five six, 165, I think, something like that. And doing the things he did, mad respect to that guy. Yeah. Because most people can't. He fought up hill the whole way. He was fourth round even just to get his foot in the door, right? How many people have achieved that level that weren't first round picks? Right?
Starting point is 02:21:31 Well, I'm trying to think, you know, Johnny Guigrew is a small guy. Martin St. Louis is a small guy. But like when it comes, you know, all growing up, and there's so many hockey guys that can relate to this, is that if you weren't over a certain height, you just, you caught. You didn't even get considered. Like, I tried out as like a 16-year-old.
Starting point is 02:21:54 I remember this in kindlessly, and they told me if I was four inches taller, I'd be on the team. Like, what does that even mean? It doesn't even matter, yeah. But, you know, they're looking for big guys because they, you can't teach big. That's the old, that's the old, you know, adage.
Starting point is 02:22:08 Like, if you're not big, you, you know, you can't teach it. You can teach a kid lots of things. You can't teach them how to grow. And so the guys who did make it to the NHL get mad respect for me because, I mean, you have to be unbelievably talented, driven, and then on top of all of that, you're still going to have thick skin beyond belief because you don't understand the crap they would have went through
Starting point is 02:22:38 and the things that would have been said to them. I mean, Theo is, I mean, he's. got a story of ambiance, you know, but even St. Louis getting, you know, he's a guy that was, had his own hoops. Like, I mean, Calgary had him. Don't just, it's too soon. Right. It's too soon. And there he goes. And why is that? I don't know. Maybe he was no good in Calgary. Maybe he just Calgary had bread hole. Hmm. Calgary is that a lot. I got no problem crapping on Calgary. Yeah. Yeah, it's too bad you guys. guys can't do it from a higher
Starting point is 02:23:14 it's more of a lateral crap at this point which means that you guys have improved somewhat although you can't be doing it now Grodrow player of the week Is that where we're going That's what we're going to judge Yeah The drill of the player of the week
Starting point is 02:23:27 I mean the flames probably The flames probably paid Probably paid off the league Can you give us something Okay tosses a couple of You guys haven't retired a jersey in 30 years And so you went with Garth Brooks We did not.
Starting point is 02:23:45 You guys retired a jersey for Garth Brooks, and I think the last one before that would have been Paul Coffey. No, we just retired Kevin Lowe. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Back checking me again. Oh, fuck you, Garth Brooks. I was like, hmm.
Starting point is 02:24:00 Hey, man, I appreciate you coming in and doing this. It's always fun, too. It's better in person 100%. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, this. awesome, been a lot of fun. You know, it's cool. I popped up here and there on your podcast a little bit.
Starting point is 02:24:15 You talked about me with Vance, and then even when you had the hypnotist on, we're talking about the billboard the day before that and stuff. And well, even when you had Ken on here leading up to the election and stuff, you guys talked about me a little bit. And so I just kind of feel like I've got this, well, not necessarily a weight over my head, but I feel like I've got to try and bring my A game.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Well, you always got to. bring your egg game oh yeah yeah but you kind of feel like you need to be yeah i even had a couple listeners uh say hey where did your boy go he hasn't had a podcast out in for a while hey eggs wherever you're at that one's for you because uh you know we're putting a lot of pressure on twos today to get the get the podcast going back we all want to hear one again because there's a lot of ammo there just oh yeah well there's there's a lot one of the things i guess just real quick here because we're trying to wrap up, but because I try and be a little bit topical,
Starting point is 02:25:10 and then I'll write a bunch of stuff, and then before I get a chance, because it's a big sit down for me to record it. And so then when I actually get around to recording it, I'm like, oh, that was two weeks ago. I can't talk about that. But I'm like, it's up forever. And it's interesting the head games you go through.
Starting point is 02:25:28 You got to get into the head games. Listen, when we record this, it's going to be multiple days until it's out. Lots of things can change. I worry about it. the time. But I'm like, fuck, what can I do? Like, honestly, what can I do? Like, I don't
Starting point is 02:25:42 do this full time. So you've got to do it when the time presents itself so that you can have an episode for Monday Wednesday. And if you get one old Friday, hey, I'm doing something smart or whatever. You've got to get out of your own head. Oh, absolutely. The boys, the boys
Starting point is 02:25:58 want some twos, all right? All right, well, it's, by the time you're listening to this, there's going to be a new episode out. Beautiful. Because I've already got to listen. I just got to record it. Actually, cool thing happened to me a little while ago. I had somebody talk to me, or I was talking, somebody who was bringing up the state of the world.
Starting point is 02:26:17 And I was like, what podcast you listen to? I'm like, well, just Joe Rogan in my 22nd or 22 cents. I'm like, okay, so that's pretty cool. And then I know somebody who just started listening to the podcast and they showed it to their neighbor here in Lloyd. So if you're listening, you might know who you are, but I don't exactly. Come say hi. but he said yeah have you heard this podcast he's like yeah i've been listened to it since it came out i listened to every episode i've been following on my twitter for years and so yeah that was that was
Starting point is 02:26:48 dude's neighbor and he's like oh do you know that guy he's yeah i know him but i mean obviously secret identity right that's right yeah so i'd like to have a i'd like to have a secret identity except i named the damn podcast ever myself so yeah i'm kind of screwed on that way you can take your wife's name That'd be a little odd. Give it a few years. I'm sure it'll be normal. In our state of the world, you're probably right.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Well, Toos, thanks for stopping in. Thanks for having me, man. Anytime. Hey, folks, thanks for joining us today. If you just stumbled on the show, please click subscribe. Then, scroll to the bottom and rate and leave a review. I promise it helps. Remember, every Monday and Wednesday, we will have a new guest sitting down to share their story.
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