Shaun Newman Podcast - #238 - Adam Konrad
Episode Date: January 24, 2022Former trout world record holder & co-owner of Fishing Geeks in Saskatchewan, Adam tells us of his journey with an adverse reaction to the Pfizer shot and the never ending saga that has followed. ...Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500 SNP Presents February 5th snp.ticketleap.com/snp-presents-solutions-for-the-future/ Support here: https://www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast
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This is Adam Conrad, and welcome to the Sean Moon
podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Adam Conrad. So first off, sir,
thanks for hopping on. Thank you. You're welcome. Now, you come to me in a very, not odd way,
because normally this is exactly how a lot of guests come, but it's, it's a different story.
And somehow a listener, listens to the podcast, throws me your page, I read your story,
somehow we connect and here we sit. So I guess what I'm looking for and what I love at you is
the audience is for the most part isn't going to know who Adam Conrad is. So first off,
maybe we could start with a little bit of background and then let's just lead into your story
and I'll interject if I feel the need to, but chances are I'm going to let you go.
Okay. Just a quick overview. I'm an identical twin. I'm 41 years old in 2007.
I caught the world record rainbow trout at Lake Defenbaker.
And from then we started guiding on just on the side as that was a full-time mechanic,
living in Saskatoon in Saskatchewan.
And we started guiding my brother and I went fishing and he caught a bigger rainbow than me.
So he broke my world record.
So he now holds the world record.
How piss for you.
Yeah.
And, you know, we were still mechanics full-time.
until COVID hit and I got laid off my job at Saskatoon Motor Products as a tech.
I was a tech for 15 years.
And my brother still works in Spruce Grove as a automotive service tech at a Hyundai dealership.
And anyway, so when I got laid off my job, we opened up our guiding business full time.
And now I'm owner of Fishing Geeks, part owner.
and the full-time guide, and we run rentals now, and we're putting a lodge up on the lake.
So that's kind of my story, 41 years in the little...
My question is, I got three older brothers.
If I held the record and then they broke my said record, how pissed were you?
Being an identical twin is a little different than just having a brother.
How so?
Like, just like he's part of me, I guess.
You still weren't pissed.
Come on.
You want me to lie?
Yeah, I was super pissed.
No, I don't want you to lie.
I just like, you know, like to get beat by your twin brother.
Yeah, that's better than your arch nemesis.
But I just assume, you're like, yeah, I got the world's largest trout.
And then to have your twin brother beat you is like, yeah, I'm happy about it.
But I'm still kind of pissed about it.
I mean, I had the world's largest trout.
largest trove. I guess that's the difference between me and a lot of other people is that
Sean and I work as a team and we just, that's how we succeed in things we do through our whole
lives. We've always worked together. Started with like even playing soccer when we're on the
field together. We could dominate the field because we knew kind of what we were going to do,
right? Pass the ball here, go there. But when it comes to fishing, we work together as a team.
and when we go out fishing,
it doesn't matter if he caught the record breaking fish or I did.
It's just a team effort when we're out there, right?
So that's why we're so successful.
We do compete,
but I'm actually glad he broke my record
because now that someone's got to catch a bigger fish than 48 pounds.
And I can take credit for it too.
That's pretty crazy.
You know, first off, Lake Deethenbaker,
I didn't realize there was that big a trout sitting there, one.
Like, I've been by that, like, plenty.
I'm sure a lot of people in Saskatchewan have,
and I didn't realize it had the world's largest trout in it.
That's something new to me.
The twin thing is interesting.
You know, I'm a hockey guy.
I got the jerseys on the wall.
And any time I hear about twins,
I'm sure any hockey fan thinks of the Siddines in Vancouver,
and they always talked about how they just knew where they were going to be and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm just like, I mean,
it's pretty hard to understand from a guy that just doesn't have a twin.
I got three older brothers and we compete and we fight and we go and everything else.
The way you talk about it almost sounds a little rose-colored glasses, if you will,
like it's almost something.
We beat each other senseless, I'll tell you that.
Yeah.
Well, let's hop to it.
You know, I'd love to sit here and say we're going to talk about fishing.
the entire time. And I someday, I hope that's what we get to do at them. I really do. I've had a few
different fishing guides on the show one point in time. But where we sit now, we sit in this weird
couple of years. And we talked earlier and I wouldn't mind if you'd share a little bit of your
story and in your journey in the past couple of years. Okay. Well, it started all with COVID when I got
laid off my job and we opened up our business things were great we had a great opening year
i was making more money as a guide at a new business without like we didn't really have a name
out for guiding yet like crazy and we were doing very we are doing very successful business is
great you know the first year i had enough work that i didn't have to
go back to my job. So I just told my boss that I wasn't coming back and we just started expanding
our business. So that was the first year and then did some ice fishing over the ice fishing season
and then came in April is when I have a month off. There's no fishing and that's when the
Pfizer shot started coming out. I'm not sure my exact date. I think it was April 26th.
I got vaccinated.
And my wife and I went in, both got vaccinated.
And the next day, I was super tired and just like, I think, like how everybody felt kind of, you know,
you get super tired and sick for a few days.
And didn't really bother me because I knew that there would be some sort of kickback to getting, like,
obviously when you get flu shots and stuff, sometimes you get sick.
but yeah i don't know i really didn't think about it like just wanted to do what was right you know
protect myself protect others um and yeah it wasn't maybe 10 days later i uh found myself kind of
fighting for my life i uh it happened really fast i had a you know i was guiding on the water all day
like I always do.
And I got back into the RV.
I staying in an RV at Sandy Shore Resort
because we're building our lodge out there.
So the lodge is just kind of being built.
So I was in the RV.
And I think it was around 10 o'clock at night.
I was in bed.
I was actually watching a movie.
And I was just finishing a beer.
And I went up to get a glass of water.
and my heart just started pounding.
And my first thought was like,
I didn't know what to think really.
I just felt my heart beating.
And I was just like, okay, whatever.
And I took two steps.
And then my heart started beating faster.
And it was very weird how it was beating.
I've never felt anything like that.
And I didn't know what was going on.
It took me a while to figure out,
actually what was going on.
And I thought I had like, I don't know, it was a partial heart attack or, or turns out to be
a fed with a high heart rate.
But I was sitting at about 230 beats a minute and out of rhythm.
And it basically felt like my heart was exploding.
And I got a friend to come over.
It was 11 o'clock.
I popped some aspirin.
Yeah, I popped aspirin because that's what I was told to do if you're having a heart attack or heart problems.
So I had some aspirin.
And there was a nurse that was on site there that sleeping, we woke her up.
And she came and felt my heartbeat and told me I had to go to emergency right away.
And I didn't know why.
She said my heart is having problems.
And I was just like, my heart is having problems.
What?
Like, why?
Like, I was just like, what is going on?
Like, what if you had a heart attack today?
Like, why, like, you live a good, healthy life.
I run all the time.
I'm 40 years old.
And so I started getting scared, and on the way there to the hospital,
it felt it forever.
Anyway, I'll speed this up.
No, no, let me be very clear.
You do not need to speed anything up.
Well, it's a long story.
That's fine.
A podcast is not built off of being a two-minute story.
If you skip over details, Adam, I'm going to slow you down and pick it and want to know more.
So I appreciate the story.
Yeah.
Well, I did write my story down.
I'm just going to kind of wing it because.
no that's fair that's fair
fresh
Outlook Hospital
my heart rate was sitting
at 230 beats a minute
and out of rhythm
and it would be like
pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop
and then stop and then boom
and it would just like
it would feel like
my heart was just
pounding as fast as it could
whenever it wanted
and it was like
I was passing out
I was lightheaded
He was kicking in now.
And they couldn't get my heart under control in Outlook.
So they ambulance me to Saskatoon at a university hospital.
And I pretty much saying my goodbyes to my family.
And yeah.
So I was surprised I made it to university hospital, to be honest.
I thought I was going to die on the way there.
It was at a heart rate at 2.30, 2.40 for six hours it was sitting at now.
Your heart will fail eventually if you don't get it down to a manageable beating rhythm.
So anyway, got there.
The ambulance lady, she must have been 35.
Like I still didn't really know what was happening.
but she asked me if I had my Pfizer or if I had a COVID shop.
And I said, well, yeah.
And she's like, which one did you get?
I said, Pfizer.
And she said, oh.
And I was like, why?
And she told me that she had a Pfizer shot.
And it was a week later, her heart rate jumped to about 180.
or 190 or something and I think she was in rhythm though but she was she said her heart rate jumped
to like 200 or something and she had to take she had to be in the hospital for 24 hours
until her heart rate came down and it's just like what like nobody told me that I'm going to have
heart, I could have heart issues after this shot.
Like, so I'm just like, it was very weird.
Anyway.
Well, and for, for the audience, like, I'm just thinking back to my time.
Like, when I got smacked in the face of the puck, a slap shot,
um, my heart went as low as 48 beats a minute.
And, you know, resting heart rate can be anywhere between what, 60 to, uh, what, 80?
I mean, it probably could be a little high.
than that but that's kind of in the ballpark so 200 and some beats just for the audience to like
put that into perspective man that's like you you go for a run my heart will be like a hundred and
i don't know 130 140 and it feels like it's going to fall on your chest 150 one 60 when you're
that's a full out sprint and we all know what that feels like when it's just like you can't catch
your breath and holy crap like 200 and some
Yeah, it was 2.30, two, four. I was like, yeah, it turned out a couple weeks later when I, I think a week later when I saw my doctor, he basically said if I was 20 years older, that my heart would have gave him out. So lucky that, like, I've been running my whole life, kind of, was exercising and never really been obese or anything. I was just like there was no reason for my heart to start doing that.
you know, I don't know.
Nothing really changed.
I just, you know, you have a beer or two once a night or twice a night.
And like, I've been doing that for 20 years.
And so, like, I don't know, I cut out everything.
I don't know, I'm jumping again.
Anyway, when I'm in the university hospital, they, they have to, like, restart my heart pretty much.
Like, so they paddled me with, I don't know.
they called. So when they paddled me, they restarted my heart and I woke up to my heart beating
and rhythm again. And I don't know, I think I made a doctor's appointment or they put me on
blood thinners right away. But the doctors pretty much thought it was one rare occurrence.
because like, I don't know,
it was the first time it ever happened to me.
So like the first things I did was like,
what could it cause this?
I do drink monster energy drinks,
one every like two or three days.
So I cut out monster energy drinks.
That was the first thing I did.
I cut my alcohol intake in half.
So instead of having one or two beers every day,
I'd have one or two.
beers every two days or only one beer, right?
Yeah, and caffeine too.
I could go on.
But I was in the doctor's office and they just said it's probably the rest,
the monster energy drinks and you over get your body.
So you've got to hydrate yourself and relax.
Nobody ever brought up the Pfizer shot.
No.
Except for the paramedic.
I never even knew it at that point.
I still didn't know what was going on.
All I thought is that I'm having heart problems now.
And I still didn't think about it.
Because when she told me that, I just kind of went in my mind and out.
And then later on, when I was thinking about it, like, this happened about a month later.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
Like, what changed in my life?
One thing.
Like, because I read, you read about 8th when it starts.
And a lot of times.
AFFB will start when you change medications.
Or when I started reading adverse reactions for medications,
which I'm just like, well, I did get the Pfizer shot.
So then I did like, okay, then I checked on everything and I'm finding out all these
adverse reactions, right?
you know so now i'm like putting two to two together is it and then then i asked my doctor about it
i'm going i'm going forward still after i got out of the hospital the first time it was only
10 days before i had to head back to e r again same thing yeah so so i was i was in the university
hospital first attacked i had a doctor's appointment they told me to not drink monsters cut my
caffeine intake and have hydrate. I did all that. And it was only three days in. I was back on the
lake guiding. And that night again, I think it was 1.30 in the morning. I woke up and I stood up to go
take a pee and my heart jumped out of rhythm again. So I had to like 10 days later rush myself to
ER again. My heart was over 200 again. I don't know how many times it's happened.
All I know that in the last six months, I've been paddled six times.
You've been paddled six times in the last six months.
Yeah, they have, they put you to sleep.
They put a defibrillator here and on your back.
And then I don't know how many bolts.
They, they, they paddled.
Right.
And then I'm left with scars on my skin.
Like, I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm asleep.
it's happening so I don't see it but all I know is that after they do it I'm back in rhythm
and feeling like normal again ish yeah it I don't know it's been uh been a long summer
in a very long summer um I'll let you talk for a bit what do you have any questions
Well, no, I just, no, there's not a whole lot of questions.
I, I've been hesitant, you know, on this side, I'll give you a little bit of my backstory.
I'm just been hesitant ever since the start, ever since they said, this is the only way we get out.
As soon as there's only one option, I'm always, I'm always like, hmm, that doesn't feel right.
And then when they say it's safe and effective, that doesn't feel right, right?
Like there's always risk.
There's risk in everything.
Adam, you might be one in a million.
You might be one in 10 million, but you're still a human being, which means hearing
your story, I'm just like, I don't know what I thought this would be, but this is hard
for me to even ask questions because I feel like, I don't want to ask questions.
I want you to talk.
I just want you to explain your story so people understand.
Because to me,
I sit on this side and it has been a wild ride by not getting because people have
vilified me.
They have vilified people who haven't got it that I know friends,
family,
etc,
etc.
And it's been an interesting go that way.
This entire two years has been interesting and I don't think no matter what side of
the coin you're on,
everybody's had an interesting ride of it.
And when I hear your story,
I just go like, man,
I don't know how we got here.
Like I understand COVID.
I understand the dangers that come with it.
But what you're talking about is something that they act like isn't there.
And to hear it firsthand is uncomfortable.
Honestly, I sit here.
And I'm sitting here and I'm like trying to spit out.
You want me to talk.
I'm going to.
And I'm just going to more bumble jumbo.
I could read you my story.
Like I haven't written down because there's times where I get.
very depressed.
So I have written my story down.
And actually I think what I'll do is just read it to you.
Sure.
And it kind of goes in more detail.
My mind just kind of jumps around.
No, no, no.
You're doing good at it.
Don't beat yourself up.
That's what a podcast is all about.
We get to go down rabbit holes and everything else.
But I tell you what, if you got it written down, I won't stop you.
Okay.
I'll just go to the start.
Basically just saying it's been, it was five months at the time.
And this was my first story.
I have not like talked about my second story.
But is the volume good for you there?
You bet you.
Yeah.
Okay.
April 23rd, I show up for my first dose of Pfizer.
It wasn't a week after I started noticing something weird with my heart.
On May 16th, May 16th was my first test.
actually so it was maybe more in 10 days I was out of rhythm to 240 blah blah okay
here we go I was rushed to the University Hospital as I almost passed out two times
my fight continued as I was prescribed four medications now I was full I was in full
fear that my second attack as I thought what happens if I'm the
the lake by myself and passed out because actually I forgot to tell you that if you're out of rhythm
and your heart's beating that fast you pass out like you can pass out very easily so for me to
drive by myself over an hour on the highway while I'm an aphib with a high heart rate is very
dangerous because I could hit the ditch and I'll be you know I'll be passed out in the ditch
nobody would be able to
this is such an impact
on my sleep at night and fear
my heart will finally give out
from when I lived my health
the healthiest life I could cutting out
everything possible that could have a negative
effect on my body in part
eating high magnesium foods
cutting out alcohol
caffeine I even purchased
a book called the AFED cure
and if you know me I am not
a reader I went about a month
until it happened again this time I was a
at the lake. I woke up at 3 a.m. with a bad feeling. My heart started pumping hard. I took
metaprol all, but it was too late as my heart rate jumped over 200 again and out of rhythm.
I got in my car as I was alone at the lake and slowly made my way to Saskatoon. I called my wife
who also who came to meet me in case I passed out. It felt like a lifetime to get to the
hospitals and my heart was exploding over 200 to 240 beats a minute. Again,
I was cardioverted back into my enderhythm a third time in less than two months.
My body was so exhausted and feeling of such helplessness.
I've since had two other attacks.
One last night, which was, I don't even know when this was, September 28th.
So this is when I posted my story on September 29th.
Then I go, do I know for certain the Pfizer shot was the only contributor to my heart
arrhythmia problem?
No, I don't. Is it a coincidence? Maybe. I don't know either. Would I have taken the shot if I knew that
there were possible side effects? Probably at the time of what I knew and what everybody was telling
us to do, I probably would have still got it. I go on and say, we live in a society that is starting
to be divided from vaxed and unvaxxed, all the hate. Hold on a second.
all the hate against one another, violence throughout the world, riots, deaths,
nudes, social media blowing up with violent threats.
And all I want to do is fish.
I feel sorry for everyone who have to live their lives every day with this divide.
Like the healthcare workers, you know, people just think that it is doing the right thing
for themselves and everybody's just like going crazy.
I don't know.
That was my first story.
You still feel like it's coincidence?
No.
No.
That was after five attacks.
I don't even know.
I think that I started like I knew it was a Pfizer shot after a month later when I started
when I started talking to people about it.
And what do you do?
what do you do you call the doctor and say hey this was the Pfizer shop and they say
I don't know it could be but what does it matter let's continue with life like there's nothing
you can do I got it am I going to get the second one no I'm piss you off I'm pissed off for you
yeah I was pissed off I'm better now I it's just like it's just like
so much heartbreak out there and I don't know how how is us humans as a society here deal with
what's going on like right we can talk all we want about it but can we change what's going to happen
what they want us to do I think we can't I could be wrong well we're supposed to vote and we
we tried voting and we all see where that goes
us. I think, Adam, maybe I'm wrong. So maybe I got, maybe I got, maybe I got rose colored glasses on. I think
the hope is, last time I checked politicians, whatever you want to stick in that category,
ain't that many. There's a lot of us. You just, we just got to figure it out. And they just keep
dividing us. They keep trying to separate us out into two cars, to two categories, to seven categories,
to whatever it is. I listen to you and I'm, I'm like, no.
No, no. Like we can, we should be able to admit what it is. Stop and be like, okay, like no more. Like this is no more. But instead we keep rolling out that it's safe, effective, come for everybody. This is the only way out when we know there's other ways out, but we won't admit it. And our government won't admit it. Our health care professionals won't admit it. Canada is in this weird, strange world. And when I listen to your story, I'm heartbroken for you. And I know it's getting
better for you. I hope it is. I just go, I don't know if it was preventable. I'll give you that.
Right. Back then, I agree. If they'd thrown out, listen, guys, this is the possible side effects.
Well, we're all the same way. Smoking has possible side effects, some of which are really,
really bad. Lots of people still smoke. Like, I get it. So it's not like maybe it wouldn't have
oh, I'm sure it would have. But that isn't the way it was portrayed. Certainly it wasn't then.
It certainly isn't now. They keep telling us that it's the only way out of this.
we're two years in.
And stories like yourself kind of get mothballed.
Honestly, on the podcast, you're the first one.
You're the first story.
And I feel almost a little shameful at him that I didn't want to have somebody on
to talk about vaccine, hesitance, injury, et cetera.
And people might laugh about that, not because of having you on,
because of my stance on a lot of things.
But I was just like, I don't want to have somebody.
on and then not having somebody on that got COVID, et cetera. But I listen to you and I go,
I don't know, that's to me, as a society, we can be better. That's, that's just my stance.
Yeah. And like, I don't know, I kind of just like, after September, the end of September,
I was, you know, just, I was just focusing on trying to keep my heart at rhythm. And, you know,
moving up into October
they pulled that or they
did the alcohol ban
on any liquor stores
so if you're unvaccinated
you can't buy alcohol
it's like we're
17 again
but they won't give you an exemption
me no
they won't give
there's still
there's still more to the story
this is not this is like half the story
okay well I
this is the good this is the good
That was the good part of the story.
This was the good part.
That was all, everything you've seen was the good part.
You're getting me wound up on the good part.
I apologize.
I will just shut up.
Let me carry on.
Compared to what happens after September 28th is like, yeah, they pulled alcohol away.
And it didn't bother me because I actually stopped drinking alcohol, which is probably one of the best things I've done for myself.
But my dad was, uh, is, was.
an alcoholic and you know he he's living in saskatoon and you know he just enjoys his vodka at night
right has it has a couple shots of vodka kind of zonks him out and he goes to sleep right and some nights
he drinks too much but you know what he's been like that his whole life and uh he's the loving dad and
And, you know, when they took away the alcohol from him, like, you know what, he went
dead, right?
He got his Pfizer shot because he can't buy alcohol now.
And I don't know, he knew the, I don't know, consequences or if you think that what I've had
was a coincidence.
I told him to be careful if he gets his shots because of what happened to me.
And he got his first shot on October 1st, I think.
And he didn't tell us.
He was my brother and my sister in Toronto.
Didn't tell anyone, which is fine.
It's his decision, right?
And then on October 26th, maybe I'll just read my second story.
I wrote it down.
All right, here comes my second story.
This was after September 26th.
As I rested after September 28th attack, I lay in my bed mentally and physically broken.
My routine started again with my battle between my brain and my body for the weeks to come.
I'm back to work after a week and struggle with sleep at the lake.
My days of the lake, I'm filled joy and laughter with my amazing clients.
After the day on the water, I dread my long night to come.
I pray I stay in real life.
them. Weeks passed and our family started getting ready for Halloween. Things were getting
better as my body started getting better rests. In October 26th, my brother has a weird
conversation with our dad. Sean called me saying he's not acting right. Seeing that my dad was
older and he drinks, I didn't think it was a big deal. October 28th, things started,
things seemed very different as I started falling mentally again.
My heart, oh, I got a typo there.
My heart was in and out of rhythm that night.
So when I go out of rhythm, I could feel it.
I could feel my heart acting weird.
And on the October 28th, my heart actually, I felt it go out of rhythm.
And then it went back into rhythm.
and that was about 10 seconds worth.
So I was getting scared I might have to go to the hospital again.
So I was getting ready to go to the hospital.
And it kept acting up my heart that night.
And it was very weird.
Obviously, when you're having heart like palpitations and stuff,
the worst thing for you is anxiety.
So if I'm worried about my heart going out of rhythm and I have a panic attack,
that could trigger an episode as well.
So it was weird how, like, that night I was, wasn't feeling right.
It was, it was weird, but I found out why later.
Things started, things seemed very different.
I started falling mentally.
Oh, yeah.
I was, October 31st was a very difficult day for me.
Halloween was great, but my mood started crashing.
I had amazing day on the water on November 2nd, and I was back home by 9 p.m.
2.30 a.m. I awoke on November 2nd, out of rhythm. Panic started as my heart pounding
away in my chest. My Apple Watch pigged me at 200 beats a minute again. A dose of metaprolol
got me down to 170 and manageable. Off to the ER and 4.4.
five hours, out come the paddles again.
When I woke, my body ached and my heart pierced with pain,
broken again and in my bed, I had to cancel my next trip.
The next few days went from bad to worse.
November 6th, p.m.
I realized I haven't talked to my dad since October 26th,
and my brother talked to him on, I talked to him on October 25th.
My brother talked to him on October 26th.
I remember he was acting very weird.
My brother basically said my dad kept asking him why he called him, which my dad actually called my brother.
And my brother was like, you called me, dad.
I could talk.
What do you want to talk about?
And he just couldn't answer any questions.
He was like, his mind was, it was like he was absolutely drunk, but not drunk.
He wasn't acting drunk.
He was different.
when I called my dad
it went straight to voicemail
his phone has never gone to voicemail ever
and when that happened
I knew something was wrong
to call his
apartment and
they have to do
they can't just go into
the apartment you have to do a wellness
check right
so
when he knocked on the door there was no
answer. So I, I, uh, I wasn't doing good. My, my wife actually went over to the apartment and there
was the coroner there with police and my dad was, uh, on his floor dead. All I know is my dad died.
I wasn't allowed in the apartment until everything got cleaned up. I was beaten and broken.
My wife's voice and her broken voice, I knew that my dad had passed.
He has been the rock throughout my life.
I was so broken inside.
November 12th, I'm allowed in the smell that never will leave my mind.
Why is this happening to me?
I'm angry.
I'm mad.
I lifted for his wallet and I removed a record of COVID-19 immunization.
my dad's second dose was October 26th at 1 p.m.
And I knew right away that Pfizer had taken my dad.
What do you do?
You break, your body breaks, your mind breaks.
The only thing you can do is just put yourself back together again and get up.
So I did that.
I knew that my dad would want me to be strong through it.
So we held his funeral.
We celebrated his life and time heals.
I have called every single place I can call.
It seems like when something like this happens,
nobody really wants to take responsibility or talk to you about it.
The coroner just wrote it off as natural causes.
His body was so decomposed that there is really nothing that they can do.
So you can't really do an autopsy on a body that's been dead for 10 days laying there.
So, yeah, I called.
I finally, I don't know, I called his doctor and his doctor, like there was no explanation for his death.
but the only explanation that can come is the fact that he couldn't talk properly is he was having a stroke or mini stroke, right?
Like, and then he was walking in his apartment and just he just died instantly.
He couldn't even reach for his phone to call, so he just probably had a blood clot or if he had a heart problem like I did, he'd be dead so fast.
his body wouldn't take that.
So his doctor actually said, what happened?
He was doing really well.
Yeah, he was.
So not anymore.
Called 811 because people were telling me to call 811.
And the lady just gave me two places to go, which I already were at.
I don't know.
I called.
I messaged my.
my MLA, government people.
Finally, I found the lady to call
that does the adverse reactions to it.
So I made a report for me and my dad.
And well, we'll put this up to our,
what do you call those health minister people?
Who are they?
Sean, do you know who those people are?
Like the health ministers?
Who makes all the calls here?
You know how pissed off I am hearing this story?
I don't think you understand.
Like my heart's breaking for you, man.
I'm listening to you.
My heart's broken and it's been put together again.
Well, I appreciate you telling me the story.
But you've made me very angry and not at you for you.
And I think, I know it isn't, I know it isn't,
I know so many people that have had vaccines and everything else.
and it's not like it's not like everyone has the same story but there's enough of these stories
and you hear them and it gets buried and the bearing of it is what's absolutely not appropriate
like I can't think of the word right now I just can't and um I don't man I I'm trying to find
the words I don't have the words I know in situations like this there are no words if we
were sitting across
with each other,
I'd give you a big hug
because honestly,
I can't imagine
what you went through,
what you're going through.
I hope it is better
because the fact that
we continue to say
vaccines are the only way,
now people can argue with you
and I suggest
they don't argue with you.
It's just like,
it's just like,
you know,
we tried.
It's not working.
Right?
like why do we keep trying when it's not working well here's something that's you know
it's like why it's like I don't understand like how this could even keep going on like this
why don't they just say okay visor's actually not working you know when when do people get sick
and die after they get COVID even when they've been immunized like I don't know it is
it is different. I don't think our world's ever seen something like this with the technology
we supposedly have, right? So I don't know. But anyway, after I sent in those, the adverse reactions,
they never talked about my dad. They never said anything about him. It's just gone. And for me,
they told me to get my second shot. They said they recommend I get my, my second Pfizer shot.
Why? Why would they recommend you to get your second Pfizer shot?
Because that I would have had heart problems like that without the shot.
And if I got COVID, that I'm at even higher risk than what I was.
I think they're fucking insane.
Oh, what's worse than almost dying?
No shit.
Five times over.
Five times over.
Like fuck that.
Yeah.
Like, I'm on my deathbed.
Almost killed me.
Took my dad out.
and I should take another shot.
Here's a question for you.
Since you've, and I know you haven't told the entire story live like this,
but you had a Facebook post.
Ever you had the Facebook post, did you have people reach out?
Or was it pretty quiet or what was the feedback like?
Oh, yeah, people reached out.
I really wasn't meaning for it to reach out to people.
No, I'm just like frustrated.
and I'm like, well, why can't someone hear what I've been going through?
Why is Facebook always so happy?
So I made a negative, I made a post of how I was feeling and what I was going through.
That was the truth.
I'm not, I don't know.
I just want to continue on with life.
I want them to tell us the truth.
And if they, you know, they say, you know, these aren't working.
maybe we should step back and try something else.
Doesn't that make sense?
It does.
But I've been a proponent of early treatment.
So you're a young guy.
I don't care what anyone says.
You're older than me.
You're still a young guy.
And by looking at you, you're fit.
And you already talked about running and everything else.
And the research that I've done, which is a negative word, can't do research.
Heaven forbid you do research.
and the doctors I've listened to, which are extremists, and you shouldn't do that either,
and heaven forbid you do that, have all preached early treatment, which our country has
pretty much decided is non-existent, not worthwhile, doesn't work, ever, you know, you just
go down the list.
And when you talk about, you know, if it doesn't work, why aren't we doing different things?
I mean, man, that's a question.
I've been asked myself for probably close to it.
a year now is like, you know, Ivermectin gets a bad name. And there's, Ivermectin's the,
the poster child or hydroxychloroquine because of Trump. But Ivermectin in our province gets,
gets a bad rap because Mo, you know, calls it horse paste and whatever, CNN and Joe Rogan,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's like there's so many drugs that show early treatment.
If you test positive for COVID, you start taking it in unison with a bunch of different things,
you get through it just fine.
And our government, like, buried that, buried it hard.
And when I hear your story, I go, heads are going to roll.
I don't mean you're going to make them roll.
I just mean, you're not the only story.
I know of multiple people who've had adverse reactions, hospital trips, and it goes on.
And what you're talking about, I hear it.
And I go, this is on our leaders for not giving options, for not explaining the
possible repercussions for making like for telling you to go get your second shot is just
fucking laughable i have no better i got people who are going to listen to this go sean you're
swearing too much you know what at this point in time i don't know a different word i can say that
makes my anger come through the the um the mic as much as a swear word right now because to me
getting a second shot while you're in the position you're in because of the first shot makes
zero sense. And you're not the first person to say that to me. I've heard it once before. And then I just
had Kate King on not too long ago. She's a paramedic in Alberta. And she had a colleague with
adverse reactions to different vaccines, anaphylactic shock, which is pretty much death.
I mean, geez, like you can't get, and he couldn't get a medical exemption. They basically said,
roll you into the emergency room and get it. And yeah, it's better for you that way. Better for you,
how this is killing like sure we'll argue one percent of the population but that one percent is
in alberta anyways 78 years old it's four core morbidity is at 75 percent of the pop 75 percent of the
people who die had four coronerobities which is like overweight heart disease lung cancer kidney disease
like you listed all off these are unhealthy people now we don't want to protect them yeah we do
but I look at you, sir, and you look like a physical specimen, if I may say so.
And I hear your story and I go, fuck me, I'm pissed off.
I'm pissed off because our government has not in a one style approach.
This is the only way.
This is what it's led to is stories like yourself and you're not the only one.
When I said, when I was asking about the Facebook, I was just curious if, what was the feedback?
Like, not feedback like, oh, that's sorry.
I mean, like, was there other people who reached out to you?
Because in doing what I do, I've been reached out to a ton of people.
And I'm just like, and this is why I feel guilty early on.
I was just like, I don't know.
Do I put that out there?
Like, this is, and here we sit.
And now I got young kids and they're going after the kids.
And I've made a very firm line of you do not vaccinate my kids.
I'm not going down that road.
Like, I'm just not.
I don't see the benefit of it.
And I apologize because you're getting me a little steamy tonight.
but I really feel for it.
I don't know how better to show it than a little bit of anger because I don't know any other way at him.
Like I hear your story and I just go, this is unbelievable.
This isn't headline news across the CBC and everywhere else.
Yeah, I'm just a normal guy trying to make a living and trying to do the right things.
I have nothing against anyone trying to do their job properly.
It's just has to come a point where you know, you're saying, well, maybe we're killing too many people then helping them and people are still dying anyway.
So maybe we should try something else.
Spare some more adverse reactions.
Like, I don't know.
Has I ever been another vaccine that's had so many adverse reactions and failure?
I don't know. I don't know these things. It's just, I'm a fisherman and a mechanic,
and I'm just trying to, trying to get by like everybody else, try to make the right decisions.
And, you know, there's like, like I said, all my guy friends in my age, they're doing great.
My brother, he hasn't had it, so he probably never will get it.
if he does get it, I guess we'll see what happens with him, but I don't think you will.
After he sees what I went through, I don't think that I wish that on anybody.
I hope nobody out there has to deal with what I had to deal with in the last six months.
It's just they can break you.
And if you're not strong, it's just, yeah, I don't know.
I've gotten over it.
talk about it now. And every day that goes by, I keep making another decision. I just keep moving.
I'm trying to live a happy life. And I am. It's just, there's these glitches in it.
Well, I hold scheduled, sorry, I'm scheduled for surgery now on February 1st. So a couple weeks.
Surgery for what? It's, it's called an ablation. So if you're going into APEB, they,
it's kind of like heart surgery, but not as invasive.
So they go through a vein from your hip, and then they, I don't know how they do that,
but they'll go up in the vein up to your heart, and then they cauterize your heart in two
different spots.
And that helps manage the electrical flow in the heart.
So yeah, I'm scheduled in February 1st for my ablation.
I'll be coming off my meds after that to see if my heart can stay in rhythm.
Well, this is what I'm going to ask of the audience.
I'm going to ask of two things, okay?
One, I'm going to ask for prayers for you for your surgery.
Because to me, you say non-invasive and I hear that and I go, I don't care who you are.
This isn't like trimming a toenail.
This is a little more extensive than that.
So we're going to ask for a little prayer for you because whether you leave it, believe in the big guy or not,
think we could put a little goodwill your way.
Well, you know, like I said, it's his will, you know.
So if I go, I go.
But they say that there's like 1% chance of a stroke during it.
I'm a good 1%.
I always have that luck.
But I think it'll be okay.
I've been, I've actually lost some weight.
I haven't actually ran.
I can't do anything physical anymore.
What's your,
what's your business at him?
If people want to book you to,
you know,
if I want to come catch the biggest trout world record,
how do I find you?
No,
just,
you can type in my name or our business name is called
Fishing Geeks,
fishing geeks.net.
And you guys are from Lloyd,
right?
Yeah,
you bet.
Yeah,
I got clients that come in from Lloyd.
We're very business.
But yeah, if you want to message me, try to get in,
you come down and catch as many fish as you want.
A lot of people just, the reason why I get hired a lot is,
is if somebody like you comes to me and says,
I'd like to catch a 30-pound northern pike.
And I could provide you a very good possibility of catching that fish, you know.
So I specialize in multi-species.
If I want to catch the world's biggest trout, is that possible?
I don't think right now, but last year our biggest rainbow is about 24 pounds.
Okay.
It's still big.
Yeah, the fishery goes up and down, right?
Right now, I'd say the trout fishing is at a low, but the walleye fishing and northern pike fishing is at a high.
So, you know, the diversity of fish we have to guide for.
for on Lake Deacon Baker is absolutely amazing because we have so many different species
to go for.
It's the difference between our lake and any other lake around here.
So, yeah.
Cool.
Well, I hope some listeners take you up on that.
And at some point here,
I'm going to see if I can't catch the world's biggest trout because I would love nothing
more than to dethrone the Conrad brothers.
And there may be no anger between the Conrad brothers,
but if I pull it off, I tell you what,
I'm going to be shooting you messages all the time.
I can give you a tip too.
Sure.
This is what you do if you want to figure out how to catch the world record rainbow truck.
Okay.
You hire me for about three days and you get me to spill the beans on everything.
And then after that, you live there for like three years and fish every day for that 49-pounder.
Because honestly, sometimes you have to be.
be there for like three, four days before you get one bite. But that bite could be a 40 pound
rainbow. Yep. Well, I don't know if I'm moving there. I'm going to take my chances that.
You want it to. That's what you got to do. But the first step is to hire me and I'll show you all
the ropes. I tell you what, we're going to take you up on that. Here's your final question.
Well, we'll switch into the crude master final question. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald.
supporters of the podcast is the very beginning.
I'm always curious and the listeners know this.
They probably get tired of me saying that, to be honest.
But if you could sit down with one person at them and pick their brain right now,
who would you take?
And yeah, who would you take?
What do you mean by pick your brain?
Well, exactly what I'm doing.
To me, picking the brain is the most fascinating part of an individual is between their ears.
It's how their brain thinks.
You get to pick it.
You get to ask you questions.
You get to pick their brain.
Like talk to someone that I enjoy talking to?
Yeah.
And ask them some deep questions.
And what would their answers?
Do their answers have to be truthful?
I don't know where you go.
Yeah, that's what the deal is.
The deal is I could pick anybody and I could ask them any questions, but their answers have
to be truthful.
How about that?
Okay.
Fair enough.
I'd pick Justin Trudeau.
Oh, fuck.
You'd have to fill him full of truth serum and then some.
But no, but I could get to, you know, that was the deal.
Okay, fair enough.
What would you ask Justin Trudeau?
I don't know.
I'd think about it before I got up to him, talk to him.
I don't know, but he's the biggest liar out there.
You could tell.
Isn't that the truth?
I'm just going to stop talking about that.
That's bad.
But if there's somebody that I could like talk to, I don't know.
some sort of like maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger or something.
He's been a,
he's been fun to watch over the years.
Well,
regardless,
I,
I,
uh,
I really appreciate you coming on.
And I really do appreciate you telling us your story.
Um,
I hope it,
uh,
spurs on some people,
resonates with some people,
whatever.
To me,
uh,
after hearing it,
I go,
I've waited too long to bring someone like yourself who has a
story like that on,
to be honest.
and I'm going to be a little hard on myself for the next couple days because I've thought about it a lot.
But I do appreciate you taking the time to talk to me and explain your story.
I wish you the best of luck.
And I do mean it.
I hope the listeners, there's a lot of people who believe in the big man upstairs.
And I do hope they'll send some love your way because non-evasive or not.
That type of surgery isn't your standard, like I say, clipping the toenail.
so to speak. So we wish you the best of luck.
You're not making me feel good right now.
No, I don't mean to do that.
I just, when you say it's not evasive, I just, I'm like, oh, what is he doing?
Is he, is it just a root canal?
No, that ain't a root canal.
That ain't a simple going.
I hate going to the dentist.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they seem to just really broken, broad.
Yeah.
I am nervous every time they, yeah, the heart is a very delicate thing.
And if you ever have problems like this, it could screw your life up pretty bad mentally too.
It's a lot for me to come out of that dark place.
Well, I appreciate you doing this.
And go be with your family.
I do appreciate you taking some time for me tonight.
And God bless, okay?
All right.
Thanks, Sean.
Thanks for tuning in today, guys.
I hope you enjoyed the episode.
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He's a lawyer with the JCCF.
He's coming up here in a few weeks.
He's going to be on the podcast.
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You know, you got a cast of interesting people who are going to talk about some things,
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You're going to essentially scan a barcode and get to ask questions via that and then, you know, vote questions up and down.
It's going to be pretty cool.
I'm excited for it.
I can't say I've ever done it before.
So there's a possibility of fails.
Let's be honest.
There's always that possibility.
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Anyways, if you haven't got your tickets for that, that's February 5th, and you can find all
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