Shaun Newman Podcast - #24 - Hines, Mohr & Franklin
Episode Date: July 10, 2019All three have played multiple years in the WHL.. We get to take a closer look at off season training, road trips, bouncing between schools and finally how they all handled being traded ...
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Welcome to the podcast.
Well, guys, I'm sitting here.
It's Tuesday night.
I had this awesome news to tell you about,
and I thought here is going to be something that everybody's going to scramble to go get tickets for.
We're having the Emmington Oilers alumni versus the Calgary Flames alumni
at the Civic Center on Saturday, September 28th.
It has been coined the Boundary Battle of Alberta.
and it got announced today, Tuesday, July 9th.
And it sold out Tuesday, July 9th.
And so you're going, Sean, why are you talking about this if I can't buy tickets?
Well, what if I told you there's a couple ways to get involved?
And by a couple ways, I mean, get in the game.
So what they're doing is they've opened up five roster spots on each team.
So five with the Oilers, five with the flames.
Now, I just found out from Malcolm Ragkey that
Not even all those are left
They're about half sold now
So if you're sitting here listening Wednesday morning
And you want to be a part of this
It's going to cost you a thousand bucks
And that's going to get you in the game
And now you're going
Gee, $1,000 seems like an awful lot of money
I disagree
You get to sit in with eight alumni
Shoot the shit
play in front of a packed barn,
and I know all of us don't get to play in front of a packed barn anymore,
and relive probably some of the glory days,
or at least hear about some of the glory days,
because I'm assuming there will be some cool guys in attendance.
Now, that date, once again, is Saturday, September 28th.
It's a 3 o'clock game.
I've got to give a huge shout-out to Boundary Ford.
Because of Boundary Ford, 100% of the proceeds are going to Project Sunrise.
and obviously a huge shout-out to Malcolm Ragki and his team at the Lloyd-Mister Region Health Foundation
because they're the ones that are hoping with Boundary to put this huge event on.
If you're saying, yeah, I want to be a part of this.
Where do I go?
Who do I talk to?
So if you want to be a part of this game and you're sitting there chomping at a bit,
you give Lloyd-Mister Region Health Foundation a call 306-82061.
That's 306.
820 6161.
I know I can talk kind of fast at times.
And talk to Malcolm Raggey.
He can get you hooked up and put in the game.
Like I say, there's limited spots available, but there is still spots available.
And so just a hat off to all of Void Mistry.
I can't believe it's sold out this quick.
I don't know if anybody can believe it sold out this quick.
I was like pretty pumped to announce that the Boundary Battle of Alberta is coming to Lloyd.
But as it is, it's right now.
It is sold out.
They may release a few more tickets.
I'm not sure if they can or how many they can release.
If they do, I'll let you know.
But if you're looking to get involved in it,
like I say, there's a few roster spots left open
and $1,000 gets you in there.
So give Malcolm Ragki and the Lloydminster Region Health Foundation a call.
Now, I got to give a shout-out to Harlan Lessick.
You know, before I give a shout-out to Harlan Lessig,
serious XM Canada keeps calling me.
Like, I'm ready to punt my phone out the door.
Every time I talk to him, it's the same thing.
And I tell them no, I'm not interested, and then I, you know, and I'm done.
And this is the third time they've called me today.
Like, take a hint.
Anyways, back to Harlan.
Harlan and the team at the Weekly Bean.
Thanks for supporting me from the beginning.
And thanks for putting out every week in Moose Jaw, Kinnerzley, and Lloyd Minster.
in their paper, a little blurb about who we got coming on the podcast.
So if you pick one of those up, you can take a look, and there we are.
The Sean Newman podcast has been featured in there now for going on about four months,
which is pretty cool.
I want to thank Harlan and his team.
That's awesome.
Appreciate the support guys.
Next, I want to give two shoutouts to a couple of guys that I, I don't know how I missed this,
but it was a little while ago, but Mike Strilltruck had messaged me saying,
I'm loving the podcast.
and then Curtis Going had said,
I'm enjoying listening to your show.
And this was a little while back, so sorry, boys, I just found it,
and appreciate you guys listening.
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I know like, I'll bring up Murray McDonnell and then LaRue as well, Amber LaRue.
Those two, I knew nothing about them until you guys suggested them.
So anytime you guys can give me a guest that's going to be awesome that I'm going to enjoy sitting down with, message me about them.
There are people in the background.
I shouldn't sit here and act like nobody's doing that.
There's lots of people right now suggesting.
and I appreciate it. We're trying to line up all these different suggestions.
There are some really good ones, and as soon as I have confirmed to date,
I'll be sure to let you guys know when they're coming on.
There's some really good ones. I'm super excited for them, as you can probably tell.
Now, today's guess, Zane Franklin, Dallas Hines, and Kobe Moore.
All three boys spent several seasons, or I shouldn't say just spent a couple of them.
Zane Franklin and Kobe Moore are still playing,
All of them have spent several seasons in the WHL.
And they just got a different, you know, an outlook, talk a little bit behind the scenes,
what it takes, bus trips, all the good stuff.
And so I hope you guys enjoy.
We had a lot of fun in here, the four of us.
The three of them are quite the characters.
So without further ado.
Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.
I'm joined tonight in studio by Kobe Moore, Dallas Hines, and Zane Franklin.
I can already tell this is going to be an interesting one.
as these three Yahooos have been sitting here just bantering now for the last 20 minutes.
But I'm looking forward to this, boys.
Thanks for coming in.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I bet you you are.
Now, I thought so people can kind of get used.
With us four in here, I highly doubt they're going to figure out who I am pretty quick.
Obviously, me being on here every day.
But I thought maybe we'd start with your favorite movie.
If you got a quote from it, let's roll with that.
obviously your name, and maybe the team you're currently playing for or played for Dallas being the one who's graduated out of the dub.
So we'll start with you, Kobe.
Okay, I'm Kobe Moore. I play with the countless pleasures.
Favorite bus movie would be The Hangover, and favorite quote is, so how about that ride in?
It's a good icebreaker.
I'm Dallas Hines.
I played for Vancouver Giants last year.
My favorite bus movie is Slapshot, and my favorite quote is, trade me right fucking now.
I'm Zane Franklin.
I also play for Canloops.
Favorite movie is Taldiga Nights.
Favorite quote is,
Shakin Big, baby.
They're good movies, boys.
Everybody seems to love the Will Ferrell.
How can you not?
He's a classic.
Any movie?
He's a classic.
You guys are like 19, right?
Like those movies came out when you're like 12, maybe 10.
There's just so many of them you can't keep track anymore.
That's true.
That's true.
Do you boys watch Raptors?
Yep.
Yeah.
Die hard?
Die hard?
Or are you like me and your closet fan?
And once they hit the semis, you kind of...
Oh, no, no.
I was like that, yeah.
I was a bandwagon.
Once they started winning, I jumped on board.
Yeah, well, Kauai put it on his back and was the man, guys.
Yeah.
He was unbelievable.
No, I kind of feel like I've been on the train the whole time.
Really felt like we deserved this one.
Basketball fans are going to hate you by the end.
of this, aren't they? No, I know a lot. I play a lot 2K. I know a lot.
All right, boys. We're all hockey guys in here. I love that everybody comes in missing teeth,
except for Mr. Franklin.
I'm missing. Oh, you are missing one. Never mind. We're all missing teeth. Maybe that's how I
should have started. How you boys all lose your teeth? High stick. High stick? That's Colby.
I got a puck in the mouth. Dallas is a puck in the mouth? Stitches? Cucion?
Seven stitches in my lip. Seven stitches? And I've taken two pucks.
the face.
Know that that's all about.
And I got punched.
I earned it the right way.
I wanted to leave this for a little while down the road,
but I got the cousins in here,
and you boys fought each other.
What was that like?
Because that blew up on Twitter around here at least.
Okay, there's a story behind it, kind of.
Like, it wasn't just because we hated each other or anything.
But when he was playing for Cooney and I was playing for Lefbridge,
I said, like, we got a fight once at least when we play each other.
because you play each other like eight times a year.
We got to do it once, like, in our career.
And then when he got trade to Vancouver,
and it was our last game playing each other.
Like, he is graduating.
Like, we won't play each other in playoffs.
And so we're like, okay, that's four and four in the offense's own.
So whatever, he says, you want to do this?
Like, from across the circle.
I'm like, I guess.
I don't know.
Like, I didn't think we were actually going to do it.
So the puck goes into the corner,
and he's pinned the puck up,
and I kind of just, like, give him a shot.
like back and I just like I guess we're doing this.
He turned it around and I don't know.
I just kind of blacked it after that.
At least it left me there was a video so we could watch it a couple of times.
But yeah, I was like if we're going to do us, I'm actually going to swing.
Yeah, a little back story to it.
It was two years ago we were at home for Christmas and we were playing the first game back
against each other after the break and we said, well, let's fight that game.
And then obviously that game came and we were both a little gun shy and nothing happened
and then we forgot about it.
And the game that we ended up fighting,
he was lined up against a 16-year-old,
giving him a hard time,
and I was freshly traded to Vancouver.
So to make everyone seem like I was tough,
I thought this is a good chance to fight Zane.
Because not all of them knew that we were related.
So I said, this is a win-win.
I can fight Zane, and my team will think I'm tough.
And my stock rises.
And sure enough, he said yes,
and then, yeah, we just, we threw.
We didn't really hit each other,
but we were trying.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Like, the story around the hockey world is cousins' fight.
Can't get better than that.
No, it's going to be like, it's especially going to be good, like, 10 years down the line.
You're having a beer.
Like, holy, remember when we just threw Hamish?
The story will change and probably be like a line bro or something like that.
Zainer will be telling people he knocked me out.
Yeah, something like that.
So it's a good story.
It was pretty much all that is for.
Yeah.
Cool, guys.
Well, I like to go back.
as you young guys, right, you're still in the middle of your hockey careers, but I'm always
curious on how you boys got your start, if it was, you know, mom and dad pushing you, or if
you're a little older, if it was an outdoor rink, that kind of thing. So since we've been
leaving Kobe in the quiet here, maybe we'll start there. Yeah, I know, I started as long ago as I
can remember. Parents obviously got me into it. Never forced me, never nothing. I didn't like it
at first for sure but uh you know i said keep trying and eventually i liked it and got better the more
i skated and yeah it just became a thing yeah i mean there's not much else to do in marwain so
the first thing i can remember is putting on skates mom and dad were always always made sure i could do it
but never pushed me and then yeah just kind of carried over i honestly think me and i was kind of the
same stories um there isn't really a lot to do but uh like i think my family like especially my mom she grew up
with like a hockey family.
So I think it was kind of just,
might as well give it a go and see if you likes it.
And then I think, I don't know if I liked it, I guess.
I'm here, so I'm not.
Does Tel Avie Lake have a rink?
They have like, I don't know.
Yeah, they do.
It's a little, it's a little one.
It's indoors, so they have an actual indoors rink.
Just natural ice?
It's natural ice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't know if they've had ice in there recently or not, but.
Like, is that the one right alongside the highway, that building?
Yeah.
Right by the hall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right by the hall there.
You'll probably be the one interview you have in your entire life.
That's probably not true.
You'll probably have a couple more,
but they probably won't know where it totally like ever is.
Nope.
What, speaking of your parents,
I was talking with the boys the last couple times here,
and we were talking about early morning practices and that kind of thing.
Do you remember any advice or maybe some of the sacrifices your parents did for you guys
when you're pursuing your hockey dreams, that kind of thing?
I think, like, well, with Marwain, we never ever had to do early morning practice
because there's only, like, four or five teams.
So when we got a little bit older, we just practiced later.
But I think it was more in the summer when I started doing spring hockey.
The one year I played in Lloyd, but other than night it was like all Amitin or Calgary teams.
So I think they gave up their weekends and weekdays.
You played spring hockey in Calgary?
Yeah, for one spring.
Like for a Calgary team or there was just tournaments in Calgary?
No, it was a Calgary team.
Yeah.
Albert Spartons or something like that.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
That's a long way to go.
Yeah.
Did you always do similar things for spring?
No, absolutely not.
Yeah, I was way too committed.
But really, like, it was fun.
Like, me and all good guys, but looking back on it, I wish I had a couple more weekends back to myself.
But, yeah, they just, they drove me, they didn't complain.
I think they had as much fun as I did doing it.
So obviously, up to your 16, they have to drive you everywhere.
So they sacrifice a lot of their time.
Yeah, I can remember playing Batham AA and practicing in Lloyd at 6am.
And dad would be up every morning with me, and he'd drive me in,
and mom would make sure we had food.
So I knew that he would always do that, and it was awesome.
Yeah, I think completely opposite of Zane.
Lots of teams in Lloyd growing up, so not a lot of.
of ice to be had. I remember going to PV every week. Not the best ice surface or rink, but
no. Yeah, I always had a ride out there and back and always stayed to watch and yeah, it was
good. Good old PV barn. That is a barn. Socks over the helmets to keep your ears warm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're wearing mini mitts in your gloves. It's what the old Archie Miller,
well, the Archie Miller is actually a pretty nice rink now. You boys have been in Archie Miller since they
read it? No, I don't think I have.
Or renovated it, it's probably been in your time.
Like, the Archie Miller, when I was
growing up, I had, like, chicken wire on
the, above the board. You got hit into
that, and you're like, yeah, not fun.
Now it's, like, it's actually a pretty nice rate. It's probably a hidden
gem in Lloyd. There you go.
Yeah, I remember the Archie being just as cold as the...
Oh, no, it was brutal. Probably still is brutal.
I remember they always had heated floors,
though. That was, like, the one thing I remember
that about... The dress... The dress rooms
had heated floors, yeah. You would
You'd take your skates off between periods and just put your socks to and put your feet on the floor.
But did all the rooms have showers back then?
No, they were split.
Yeah, they were split, weren't they?
Yeah.
And there was like two showerheads.
Like it wasn't a good setup.
No.
I don't know.
I'm assuming that's improved.
I actually can't speak because I haven't been in the arching a while.
Not me either.
Who's got in the dub?
Who's got the best facility to go to?
Probably my old one.
Rogers.
well yeah i guess emminton right okay minus the natchel barns i don't know i there's quite a few
good ones i like all this well besides tricity like any states team has a pretty good setup
yeah the states is pretty cool to play in and from guys that i know that have played there say it's
all awesome except for tri-cities yeah trice is an old arena it's like it's a little bit it's probably
one of the older ones in the league i would say
Yeah.
It's been there forever.
It has been.
What do they say that's so awesome about the States?
Like, just like the building's new?
The fans are awesome.
The fans are awesome.
It's crazy loud in the States.
All the arenas, even Tri-Cities.
Each team has their own, like, goal horn, goal song that they all sing to.
It's pretty sick.
And we don't have that in Canada?
No, their fans beat our fans.
Hands down in the WHO.
You know that Canada?
Come on now.
Well, they're pretty much like football fans.
They just need a sport.
cheer for and they'll just go crazy.
There's $2 beer nights there, so everyone's just hammered.
Yeah, you can't argue with a $2 beer night, can you?
Nope.
Scrass me on Tuesday.
How about growing up, fellas?
I'm always curious, a big thing now is right, like when I grew up, we didn't have ice
all summer, right?
Like, as soon as hockey season was done, there was no skating because there was no ice to
go skate on.
Now there's ice in year-round.
You guys, I'm assuming, did all the Kujo training, all that dry-land stuff,
and it just seems like, well, now it is.
It's all about being the year-round hockey athlete.
Did you guys grow up playing other sports in the summer?
And at what point did you switch if you did switch?
Yeah, I played baseball, football, lacrosse up until I was in Bantam.
And then Bantam hockey got more serious.
That's when you came to Lloyd?
Yeah, that's when I would have.
came to Lloyd and then you had to start working out in the summers and skating year-round
and didn't have time for any of the other sports.
Yeah, me, I was a big baseball guy, baseball in the summer, hockey in the winter.
Yeah, I had to pick when I was probably 13, 14, that bantam age group, and I chose hockey.
He's easier to go places in Canada than baseball.
Yeah, isn't that the truth?
So, yeah, I stuck with that route, and it's been a good ride so far.
Well, a major injury finished off my baseball career.
I'm not even joking.
I took a foul ball off my eye, like orbital bone eye area.
And I was like, that's the last of that crap.
I'm not doing that anymore.
But I do like baseball a lot.
I love baseball.
But I guess when you get to that point,
there's no reason to risk taking a ball off the eye or something like that,
if you're not going to go anywhere with it or anything.
So I guess I was forced to play hockey.
Forced.
When you guys talk about these other sports, when you look back,
if you could reverse time and hockey wasn't an option,
is there a sport that you wish you could have played full-time?
Baseball, 100%.
Baseball?
If I could play in the MLB there,
would not over the NHL, to be honest, I would pick the MLB.
162 games?
Yeah, but it's baseball.
Some games you don't even do anything.
you just stand in left field.
Or DH, I would DH.
$20 million at DH.
Yeah, and then your batting averages
in the 100s and you got the fads just cat-ball.
Yeah, but there's $20 million in my bank account.
Yeah, for me it depends if I was like a foot taller.
I would be a basketball player.
If I could be 6 foot 9,
instead of 5 foot 9, I would be a basketball player.
And I think that's the coolest sport, yeah.
but if with my height i'd be a baseball player i guess i don't know what else can you deal being 5.9
i don't know it limits you can't be a football player
a jokey
I'm stuck in the middle too big for that
I don't like horses enough too
I can see this is going to be an interesting hour
it's only an hour
Well, we can go as long as you want Zane.
He's got stories.
He's got stories for days.
We poked the bear too much.
Too much might come out.
I don't know if that's such a bad thing.
The listeners will enjoy it.
I'll leash the cracking.
So you guys all come to Lloyd then and play Bannum AAA?
Yeah.
Yep.
We all played together my second year.
They made it his first years and that was a second year.
And then we played again in Midget together.
Now, who played on the...
Zane played on, you played on the Telescope team, yeah?
Yep, yeah.
No, you weren't there.
Nope.
Just I.
Hmm.
That was pretty good run.
Yeah, well, talk about it.
Did you guys end up going to Max Cups team too?
I wasn't there.
No?
No.
Not even in your years?
No.
No, eh?
The year we played, we were really bad before Christmas and then we get invited to the Max.
No, eh?
It was kind of nice.
He's got the Christmas break off.
We were like the blues.
pretty much
except
you go on to win
no
we lost in the second round
I think we lost
in the second round that year
it kind of seems like
I'm the you know
missing piece
you know
I won all the team
I would be on all the teams
you haven't won anything though
but I've gone to the
Dallas Cup
I don't know if that's
a lot of guys go to those things
gone to the westerns
like go on
fair enough
with zero rings
to come away with
yeah
That's going to change this year,
this year we're going to win it.
I'll be flying out to Colona to watch you two in the MAM Cup.
Is that who hosts coming up?
Yeah.
How was Prince Albert this year?
Were they that good?
I mean, Dallas, you get to win in some firsthand.
We only saw them once, yeah.
And we only lost four too.
So, like, that's not bad.
That's pretty good.
I mean, for the situation.
They were really good.
They had an unbelievable goalie.
some of the best 20s in the league,
they were just deep.
They were fast, skilled, everything.
They were hard to play against.
We should have beat them, but they were hard to play against.
Yeah.
What do you think watching them when we went to the MEM Cup,
and then they don't, well, I don't want to say don't perform,
but they go there and...
Well, it's mixed feelings because you don't want them to have success,
but then...
You kind of want your league to go there and perform.
You want your league to be,
because then it makes you look better if they perform,
but I can honestly say that I'm happy they went 013.
It's talking about the Bannam draft boys.
I've had several different guys on here now,
a lot of your guys' teammates that have talked with the Bannum draft,
and lots of guys have been taken in it,
lots of guys haven't been taken in it,
all of them have gone on to do really well in their careers so far.
what's your guys's thoughts on the Bannam draft?
I mean, I think you were all taken in it, correct?
Yeah, yeah.
We'll start with Zane.
What round were you taking in?
I was taken like this closer to the end of the second round.
By left bridge?
By left bridge, yeah.
And what were you doing that day?
Do you remember, like, was it a big deal?
Or was it, were you sitting on pins and needles?
Did you know you were going to go?
I remember what he did.
Yeah, I was, I stayed home from school.
What else?
What are you got to say?
No, that's all.
I was waiting to see what you were going to say.
Yeah, I stayed home with school.
I don't know.
Like, it was like a mix of emotions.
I don't know.
It was good.
I am happy I ended up going to Lethbridge, so it worked all good now.
I was like, I don't know if I was upset because I thought I was going to go higher,
but I just, you know, just didn't work out as I thought was going to.
So that, but now looking back on it, it was awesome.
It worked out great.
But at the time, you wish you would have went higher.
Yeah, I think everybody wishes.
they can go as high as possible.
But it just kind of, yeah, it just kind of how it worked out.
I'm sure Dallas wants to say something about that.
No.
No.
I was just waiting to see what you said.
That's how you didn't show up to school and you might have been a little upset.
I was just waiting to see Zaneer.
I'm not mad of you.
Oh, you doubt.
I went in the fifth round to Kootenie.
I wasn't supposed to go in the fifth round.
I was ranked 150th.
And then I didn't even know.
I was drafted to Kootenie and I thought that was the name of the town.
but it was Cranbrook.
And yeah, I was just excited to go.
I didn't care where I went.
I just wanted to get drafted.
That was kind of opposite of Zane.
Agent called with the night before saying, like, yeah,
sounds like third round of Seattle.
So, yeah, I was at school.
Got a call.
I went in the first round to Edmonton.
Not a big deal.
But, yeah.
What pick in the first round?
20th.
20th?
Right before Cody Glass.
Yeah, I was waiting for it.
Before Cody Glass.
We ended up playing Portland, like, this is a regular season this year,
and we were talking about Kobe's all in the room saying,
not a big deal, I went before Cody Glass.
I was like, oh, I dare you to tell him that, Kobe.
I dare you to say it.
I went before you're in the draft.
So we said we get out there.
Like, did you say it?
He's like, no, I can't do it.
What's you going to say?
I went 10th over all the Vegas or whatever.
So I guess whatever.
Yeah, Cody Glass might have been a little bit better pick at 20,
but who knows?
You got another year?
No, for sure.
It's a long time ago, so.
What did you boys do?
A lot of people want to know, like,
what did you sacrifice in order to get to that level?
Like, or was it, or did you have to give up much?
Was it just working your butt off?
I think the biggest thing is just like the weekends when you got hockey games
and your other buddies from school or going to party or do whatever,
you're just, you're wanting to be there,
but at the same time you can.
and the longer and it does pay off.
Yeah, that is pretty much it.
You sacrifice some time and a little bit of social life,
but it is.
It's the weekends when you're 16 or 17,
first year away from home and all your buddies are still there.
Like that Tulles Cup team,
like that would have been Colby's and I's team to play on two
when we weren't there and they were winning
and both our teams weren't great.
And they were going out and our friends were going out
and you're just sitting there like,
oh like come on just lost 14 in a row but it just all pays off in the end got to put your time in
yeah i think that's honestly the same i think everybody wishes they had a little more time to hang out
but in the same sense uh you know i think a lot of those guys wish they could be in your position
oh guaranteed so if you look at look at that way it kind of puts into perspective but yeah
it's hard not to kind of feel like you're missing out on you know some memories and stuff so
yeah but you guys you're crazy you're crazy
in your own, right? Like, I mean, you're going to look back fondly on your time in it, right?
Like, I mean, and then if you go to school, like, you're talking Dallas, right? Like,
every year you're playing in the dub, you're going to get comp that, right? Yeah.
Like, that's a pretty sweet deal.
Yeah, it's a two-way street for sure. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely got a lot of upside.
I'm sure you're going to make lots of memories in school.
How was dealing with going to school in a new place, like at that age, transferring everything over?
We're like, I know I've talked to a few of the boys.
Not good for it.
It didn't go well for me, to be honest.
But I got my Xbox taken away by my general manager, actually.
I had a low-grade in biology.
It was almost failing.
And there's three guys.
He took their Xboxes away.
And our assistant coach would drive to my billet house
and check on me to make sure I was studying.
I ended up doing good on the exam and passed the course.
But I definitely struggled a little bit moving away from home
and not have my parents checking on me to make sure I got my homework done?
Yeah, not that bad.
I tried a hundred done that.
But I think just the amount of school you missed, like on road trips and stuff,
especially with like math or like something you've got to be there to like know what they're talking about.
You know, you come back from like two weeks off and you're like, what's going on here?
Like, yeah, I mean, you try to get as much help as you can, but like, you know,
it's hard to do good,
especially when you're not, like, a genius.
So I struggle a little bit with those things,
like missing all that's cool,
but, I mean, at least I tried, so.
Yeah, just touching off Zaner,
all the time you put in with a tutor,
just to catch up, you do miss a lot,
a lot more than you would think.
And, yeah, just a lot of time out of the classroom
and when you're not committed to doing your homework on the bus,
which, I mean, if you tell me,
a guy is, I'll show you a liar.
Yeah, not a chance.
Yeah, it's just the grind of catching up all the time.
What is your longest road trip?
Like you said two weeks. Do you do a two week stint?
Yeah, like, so this past year, we went on like a week road trip to the States.
We played like five games in seven days.
So which is that, that's crazy in itself.
And then we, right after that, we went on, like, a week road trip to the States.
I went to Victoria for two games.
So right from like Seattle, we drove to Victoria,
then Victoria up to Prince George for another two games,
and then Prince George home.
So it ended up being like 12 days.
So, yeah.
Yeah, pretty much two weeks.
But yeah, luckily I wasn't in school.
So I just got to like, I don't know, do nothing, I guess, for the most part.
But I feel bad if the kids who are in school, you know,
I don't really feel that bad, but.
No.
We've all been like to smell.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it depends on the division too.
Like in the central division, it's longer when you go to the states
because you've got to get all the teams in.
And like next year we got to go to Brandon and all the Saskatchewan teams.
Winnipeg now too.
So that'll be a long one.
But again, we're not in school, so.
What's Winnipeg's team called?
Winnipeg Ice.
Cooteney moved there.
Cooteney moved there?
Yeah, the owners bought it.
The owners bought it two years ago, so when I would have been 19.
And then bought a, I signed a three-year contract with Cranbrook and then left after year two.
There's no fans in Cranbrook.
It's not a great place to play, to be honest.
I love the city, but it's not a great place for a hockey team.
I never really thought about it before, I guess.
I hear a funny story.
Dallas's team, when he played there, was the first team to miss out in playoffs for like 20 years.
18.
So it's, they, the first ever team was the 1998 Coutney Ice, and they made it every year until my first year.
And then we were the worst team in the CHL my first year.
Worst team in the WHL my second year.
We're almost in the playoffs, my third.
And then my fourth, we were struggling again.
And then that's why I asked to get traded.
I just couldn't rebuild for four straight years.
How is life on the road, boys?
I was wondering about shoe checks.
There's got to be, I haven't brought up with anybody yet.
Do you want to tell the...
No, I don't know that any good enough.
Okay, so...
Wait a second.
First, before you tell it, we should preface this.
Tell the listeners what a shoe check is
because a lot of people probably don't know what the heck we're talking about.
Okay, go ahead then.
So when you go up for dinner, you get like ketchup or something,
and you get it on a spoonful, you crawl under the table,
get it on a guy's shoe without being noticed, hopefully.
You get back to your seat and everybody taps their glass
and then that's the key for a shoe check.
And, yeah, what happens when the...
When, if you do get caught, you have to either propose to a waitress or sing a song.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or if you get caught, if you catch him, you can dump a pitcher of water on his head.
That's right.
Kind of depends a situation.
This year, we had an 18-year-old go up to a 20-year-old, and he got caught shoe-checking him.
First thing, the chair went back straight into his skull, and then the pitcher of water all over him all in his dress clothes.
It was pretty, yeah.
It was pretty.
I've never seen a picture of water in person, but.
I could not imagine the shock you'd get in your dress clothes.
Yeah, I would have heard tea me all night before our game, and this stuff's going on.
It was pretty funny.
We had, in college, went to college in upstate Wisconsin, Northland College, Division III,
and it was like one of our first meals, and there was a guy from, I want to say Czechoslovak.
And if Yuri ever listens to this, I'll apologize to him because I can't remember where he's from.
and it's, I can't remember.
But anyway, Uri is from over, over, and he doesn't know a whole lot of English, right?
And he's wearing these bright, white, like, snake skin shoes.
Like, I mean, perfect for shoe check, right?
And he got shoe checked with ketchup, and he lost his absolute mind and walked out of the restaurant.
I mean, it was hilarious.
I mean, people listen to those are like, you guys are freaking retard, right?
Like, what do you guys do it?
But, I mean, that's just kind of like a little bit of the hockey culture.
I remember the proposing part
Or trying to get a kiss from the waitress
I mean there's different variations to the game of being shoe checked
You gotta do something though
You never get off
Yeah
You want to tell the brooch story
Okay
Well there's a guy on our team
I don't really know this whole story
I wasn't I think I was gone somewhere
But I came back to catch the end of it
So like did he get
I don't know what happens
Do you get caught?
Yeah he got caught shoe check in someone
He got caught shoe checking
And he's like one of like the
better looking guys on it like he is he's one of a very looking guys our team it's not weird to say that
who is it i don't know we don't want to say it all right well i mean i would have waited
a good looking male all right i'm not sure what the podcast was
so i'll just keep the name of it but he he got caught like so we said you have to propose
i guess i didn't know these rules this is all new to me at the time like so what's going on
like what is happening so he gets down on one he the wait just doesn't know clue what's
not a clue so he says like you're so beautiful when you marry me and she i don't she said yes yeah
so she said yes which is cool good for him yeah that's awesome so we're leaving the
leaving the dinner and i don't know how this happened she did she give him his number yeah yeah
she gave him her number and said text me or whatever text me whatever and our coaches were 10
feet behind him.
And I don't know what they do.
They just laughed, I guess.
Our trainer who's like a really cool dude, like beauty,
was this hysterically laughing.
That was the best thing in the world.
So like, I mean, like I said, good-looking dude.
Pretty tall.
So I was like, oh, I can't ask her really?
Oh.
You bring up trainers.
Here's a question I'm curious about.
In the dub, when you guys go on the road,
Do you have to haul on your gear and set it all up,
or is that something that's done for you?
In Vancouver, we didn't, but Cranbrook or Coutney, we did.
Vancouver, if we showed up at 8 or 9, we would do it,
but if we rolled in late from a road trip,
we would go right to the hotel and our trainer, equipment manager,
would unload everyone's gear.
That's a soft team, you know.
Team that made it to the championship, though.
I feel like if that happened to me, I'd be like, I made it.
Like I'm in the show right now
Yeah, I haven't been a part of one of those teams yet
I was shocked
I'd been doing that for three and a half years
And then I was walking my bag in
And the trainer looked at me like I was an idiot
And there was a van waiting for my bag
And I just threw it off there in the next morning
It was all hung up in my stall
Yeah, but they're different too
Because Vancouver, like they
Why don't you live 45 minutes away from your arena
And so we have two different facilities
Yeah, so like they're different
They would, they'll take it from a arena at arena for them
That's the reason like they do that
No, we do it on road trips.
So why do you get two different facilities?
Because most of the guys live in Tawson.
So it's right beside Ladner, and that's where our practice facility is.
And then we play at a Langley, which is 45 minutes from Ladner.
So you haul your gear all the way over to one side, practice there,
and then they haul all your gear over to the home facility, and you play out of there.
Yeah, so usually we would practice, you'd practice Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
at Ladner, they'd take your gear over,
you would practice Thursday and Langley,
play Friday, Saturday, or whatever,
and it usually ended up that you'd have a road trip
the next couple of games, so you'd pack up,
and you'd go to wherever, and then you'd come back
and unload in Ladner, practice for a day or two,
back to Langley, and they just transferred it for you.
That's pretty sweet.
Yep, it was pretty nice.
But they have, like, four or five minutes to get to their game
where, like, Kobe and I, like...
Two minutes.
five minutes
we all live pretty close
that is the
that was the one thing that was not awesome about Vancouver
you couldn't hang out with the guys is easy
because everyone's so far away
yeah yeah
I want to go back before
the dub because I was
all you guys were talking about the software
all you played for
or somewhere around
the Alberta Cup
Team Alberta both
not me not both for me
just Alberta Cup
you played Alberta Cup
Yeah.
Which is different than playing for Team Alberta then, obviously.
It's like the tryout, kind of.
Yeah.
That's like a tryout tournament, and then they pick the top 20, 25.
So you guys, Colby and Zane went to...
Well, when I was our year...
What is that, under 17?
No, 16, maybe?
You 16?
You 16?
You 15?
Something like that, yeah.
How'd you guys do?
Well, we lost in the finals.
But from Colby and I's year, it was like,
different. So every four years, they do like a mini, like, I don't what you want to call it, like, Olympics.
Mini Olympics. But just for Canada. So, like, instead of just, like, all the Western provinces going to this Albury Cup, or whatever, I don't know what you want to call it. What did it call it a Burger Cup, I guess, for us. But it's, like, it's called Winter Olympics.
Winter Games. Yeah. And so me and Kobe were lucky enough to go to make this team, and we lost to the finals to, like, Ontario, I think. So that was pretty cool for us. But that only happens, like, every, it just happened, like, this last winter.
And every four years.
Yep.
Because every other year it's just BC, it's just the Western League, right?
Like Manitoba, BC, Saskatchewan, Alberta.
Yeah, kind of leading up to the draft.
And the draft is like a little bit after that.
Yeah, a couple weeks, I think.
How about what I like giving a shout-out to the billet families
because the billet families are usually pretty awesome.
You guys got some billets you've lived with for the last little bit?
Or have you been painful on them?
I'm seeing some smiles every which way.
so yeah, Kobe told.
Okay, I'll start.
I actually have great billets.
Like the coolest, I think.
I don't.
Kobe's been there quite a bit, so he knows him too.
But, yeah, I guess my billet dad, you can say, is a brain surgeon.
A brain surgeon?
Yep.
Lots of cash flow coming in and out of that house.
Yep, and then, even cooler, my bill of mom is like,
I tell people she's like a CSI investigator
But I don't know what the real
She's like a homicide investigator in Calgary
So she'll fly to camp to Calgary like
So she's a cop?
Like a detective?
Like a homicide detective?
She works with the detectives and stuff
But like she's got to see if it's like like foul play like
Or it's just like a drug overdose
Or was it just a suit like it?
Was it a murder? Was it not a murder?
Did he actually jump off this building kind of thing?
I don't know really
But sometimes I like asking
like hearing about all these stories but yeah that's pretty cool it's always like interesting to ask
you know she comes home with that stories and then he has stories where you know i just removed a tumor
from this guy's brain not a big deal i don't know it's pretty cool so they're awesome and i live in like a
really street part of town like on the hill and camloops like really good view um closer rent like honestly
it's that's the best i guess it's the best yeah now Kobe
yeah i have i also have really good bill it's
right now. The billet dad works in a gold mine. He's gone every day out there, but a really good cook.
Billet mom, she works from home most of time, so she's always there to cook us food and look after us.
And yeah, we're on another nice hill in Kamloops and really close to their rank. And yeah,
there's no really complaints about it. Got a sweet hot tub, sweet view. It's good.
Yeah, all the billets I've had.
The two in Vancouver, they're a little bit different.
The first one was the single mom.
And it was kind of like I was a little bit of a bachelor.
So that was awesome when I was younger.
And then she moved away and I moved in with more of a family setting.
And it was nice to get back to that too.
And then I moved in with Davis Kosh, who lived in White Rock,
who played on Vancouver with me and moved in with his mom.
And she was unbelievable.
It was like having my mom there.
Anything I needed, every meal, like anything, it was awesome.
awesome and they have some money too so it's a pretty nice house now i'm sitting here and i'm
listening to this and i'm thinking to myself you guys are all talking about the current team you're on
and yes i'm seeing the big grand zanes get on because i'm sure you got a story if you got a story
you fire away before i don't feel you get away for me no i'm not sure i've watched stories
we don't know the podcast or else yeah i'll just pick the time of place so i just get a story for
every situation really well i'd love to hear your stories as i'm sure everybody else would
This time they're probably giggling.
Come on, Zane, what are you got for us?
Oh, you're putting him on the spot now.
Just like come to me.
Like, got to go with the flow here.
This is my first podcast.
I don't really know what to do.
Well, there's pretty much no regulation on anything you want to say.
So you fire away, big fella.
No, not until I come up with a good one.
Next topic.
Yeah, pass.
He's flustered.
I pass.
I don't know.
Take a mulligan?
Yeah.
I don't really have a good, well, I don't really have a good story for you talking about Billets, really, but I've had a couple that got passed over that I'll think of, I'll get some more.
Okay, well, let's go to this route.
I'm looking around all three you guys played for teams for several years and then were traded.
I thought maybe we could talk about the trade experience because, I mean, from a young age, you get drafted by a team, you play for them, but it sounds bit, I mean, you joke around Kobe about being part of a rebuild, but I'm, but it sounds about you have a, but it sounds about you have.
no like oh will or you know it wasn't like it sucked being in emminton right it sounds like all
three you guys talk about the places you went fairly highly and then you get traded and i thought
that's a unique thing for most guys they don't get traded i did not get traded in my career right
i went and played out in ontario for three years not dub junior a but i went and played for the
same team for three years wore the same jersey played with some of the same guys every year but
you guys have a different uh take on that because i mean you got almost you got almost
almost became part of the business, right?
That's the business side of the dub.
Also, the trade deadline looms,
and you're off to different places,
or maybe it was the start of the season,
so maybe we could talk a little bit about that.
Yeah, my, well, I guess Kobe,
Kobe and me were traded, like, in the same summer to the Canloops.
But he got traded before me.
So, but I, I kind of like getting traded.
Like, I mean, nothing against Cammoves, or Lethbridge,
but they had really good teams when I was there,
and I kind of just didn't get, like,
as much opportunity as I thought I
there was as much opportunities I wanted so
going to Camloops like I love just going to camp
like loved getting the opportunity
um
you had a good season this year too didn't you
point point per game yeah yeah so
not a big deal not a big deal
there it is
but yeah I really I really enjoyed it
my conversation
when I got traded
he's like oh how's the summer
I'm like good
and then he's like, yeah, we trade you to Camloops.
I'm like, oh, okay, I guess.
He's like, the GM's going to call you in a couple minutes.
I'm like, he's like, have a good summer.
I'm like, okay, thanks, bye.
Click my phone, 49 seconds.
I'm like, okay, on to the next.
On to the next.
Yeah, mine's pretty funny.
I had a best buddy that I played it for three years in Edmonton.
He sent me a text like, hey, Randy, like our GM's name, just sent me this text.
I'm off to Kootenie.
I was like, oh, whatever, we went to that spiel.
And then I get this exact same text.
Word for word, I'm like, oh, here we go.
Like, where am I going?
Get on the phone.
Yeah, we're treating you to Camloops.
Thanks for everything, blah, blah, blah.
Camloops calls me.
It's the coach.
He's like, yeah, I don't really know who you are much about you.
We'll talk when you get here, I guess.
I was like, okay.
GM calls me, same kind of thing, same spiel.
And then, I don't know, maybe a week or two later.
both GMs on both sides got fired.
So like new management completely on both themes
right after my trade.
So it was like...
Probably got fired for that.
Yeah, like it was just...
You traded who?
It was mayhem all at once.
Mine was...
Mine was pretty funny.
I had asked for a trade a month before I got traded
and kept going to my GM
and he said it's probably going to happen close to the deadline,
so be patient.
And we had just got back from Christmas break.
and we were heading to Med Hat for a day trip
and we did body fat two days before
so I got back from Christmas break
I might have been a little too heavy
I also brought my portable Xbox for a day trip
so I wasn't very focused for the game
so I was sitting in the back of the...
What is, I got a back up here, what is body fat?
Well, I understand what you can...
Like what your body fat percentage is?
Yeah.
How much weight you put on over Christmas?
How much weight you put on over the Christmas break?
Okay.
The liquid died.
Like they would have weighed him before?
They weighed me before I left, and then they...
So what happens if you weigh in...
I don't know?
They just make you ride the bike or something.
They just...
So what's the worst somebody's come back?
I'm with a guy in Leathbridge.
I swear to God, it came back 20 pounds in two...
20 pounds heavier than like a week and a half.
Yeah, I've seen like...
And I sure that's possible.
Like 15 pounds is the most I've seen.
So what do they...
So they go, holy crap, 15 pounds?
Really, Billy?
And then what do they do?
You just ride the bike?
After skis?
before skates, after practices, after games, you just, you don't eat the same meals on the road.
You just, you ride the bike.
Because they want you back in tip-top shape?
Game shape.
Yeah.
It's all water weights.
It is water weight.
Just liquid diet for a couple days.
Carbon up.
Okay, sorry, I cut you off.
No, no, no worries.
But no, so I'm sitting in my boxers playing Xbox a little bit heavier than I should be at the back of the bus.
And our head coach stands up and starts walking back.
So I'm pissing my pants.
I don't know what's going to happen.
He's got several things to be mad at me for.
So I shut my Xbox.
I put a shirt on quick.
And he leans over the seat and all my teammates are sleeping because they're getting
focused for the game.
And he says, you've been traded.
And I was like, oh, all right.
And he said to Vancouver.
And I had wanted to go to Vancouver before.
And I tried my best not to smile and act happy.
But I was like, oh, okay.
Like, what are we doing?
And he's like, yeah, you're playing for them tonight in Lethbridge.
So I went and ate with Kootenie.
Where were you guys heading?
Met Hat.
It's like an hour drive.
Yeah, yeah, not bad at all.
So I ate with Kootenie, got dropped off, met the guy that got traded for me, walking into the hotel.
I gave him a quick wave, and I wanted to say good luck, but it was going to Kootenie.
And then I saw the coach.
I met one player.
I walked into my room.
My roommate was sleeping, and he had those things you put over your eyes.
So he was out like a light
And so I showered
I put on my suit and stuff
And he woke up and looked over and said
What the fuck
Because his roommate had just got traded
Yeah
We introduced ourselves
I didn't say another word
And then on the bus to the game
I said
Well boys I'm either going to go dash three
Or getting a goal in an assist
And I went dash three that game
And that was it
And then the next day
You next game
Oh then the next game
So my second game in Vancouver
I played in Kootenie
And he scored
And we beat him six and nine
Nothing.
That must have felt bad.
It was a nice switch, yeah.
That's good.
I laughed at that.
Yeah, that was a...
Yeah, it was a fun.
You guys keep tabs on each other while you're playing?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think, yeah, we're all pretty connected.
We all, like...
So, Kyle Tap, like, all follows us on Twitter,
and he...
Anytime we do, like, one thing good, it's all over turn, like, oh, like...
Yeah, if you're not keeping up with the boys,
tap or I'll send a tweet out of it.
one of them does something good and you can watch.
Yeah, so that's probably the reason I know that they'll score or something.
All you boys work with Tapper?
Yep.
Yeah, but most part of you.
Tapper's got to love this.
Every time I get you boys on, we sit and have a five-minute segment on Tapper.
I should be getting them pay royalties for this.
Well, he's had all of us for...
How long?
Since I was in Bantam.
Since I started taking it serious, I've been with Tapper.
With Tapper, eh?
Yeah, me and Kobe got, met him, like, I don't know how...
year before peevy, spring hockey, he coached us.
That was kind of his first year in Lloyd and first year in the hockey world.
And, yeah, he took off ever since there.
Did he teach you anything?
Well, we should say yes.
We're all in the dub, so he must have.
Absolutely.
Well, he's got a pretty legit resume boys.
Yeah, I know he's been big part of us, I think.
Double taps and, yeah, everything.
They're not always the fun of skates, but.
I mean, they're good.
Yeah, no, he is.
Well, I mean, you're on the ice that much.
I don't know how anyone can, they can't all be fun skates.
I remember hating, like, growing up, I had to power skate.
You guys do power skating when you're growing up?
Yep.
I still do power skating.
I don't know what to be able to.
Had to power skate my whole life, but hasn't got better.
Yeah, well, that's because power skating isn't fun.
I watch kids do it now, and I'm like, man, power skating sucks.
But power skating teaches you a lot about on your edges, your stride,
everything, right? Oh, yeah.
And you don't see it until you're after you're done it.
Like, probably in years from now, you guys will go back, or you'll be still skating.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's, yeah, that's still there.
I actually, like, I just started going to Emmett into Power Skates with some people there.
And I actually really know it's a big difference from, like, to my second year to my third year.
So, like, it does make a difference if you, I mean.
Oh, yeah.
I don't even know if I'd play in the West.
league if I didn't work on my skating.
If you could tell kids, I don't know if any kids will ever listen to this, but if they do,
if you could tell kids one thing to focus on or that you think helped you, what would be
one of the things that you did off-season during the season that really helped solidify your game?
Well, so obviously I didn't work on skating enough because I'm not very good skater.
But I remember taking like hundreds of shots like daily.
And I think that is huge, especially because.
you know, especially growing up, like Bantam and whatever,
if you have a good wrist shot, like, you can beat a lot of goalies.
And that's get you notice, right?
Like, if you have 40 goals in a year, like somebody's old kid can score.
So I think I worked on my shot a lot, and that helped me the most.
And then, nah, I'm still figuring out this game part.
So, I mean, maybe it's a good mixture.
But I think working on you're just your shot,
because you can do it just at home in your basement.
I mean, really just put up a piece of plywood and shouldn't break anything.
I think most kids now are focused on the gym side, and don't get me wrong,
the gym's a big part, but you can't score goals from the gym.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
That is true.
Yeah, the gym is a big thing, but, like, practicing every, like, game situation
and a whole bunch of on-night, different on-ice things,
like always just having the puck on-your stick.
It's going to make you a way better player, just building that confidence all summer long.
Yeah, I would just say when you go to those skates with whoever it is, Tapper,
anybody, just don't just go through the motions.
Make sure you're paying attention and actually working.
Because if you do, you'll get better and you'll notice it every year.
But you can't just go there and float around.
Yeah, it's hard when you're in the middle of it doing it, like, to keep your motivation up
because power skating wears on people.
I still have vivid memories of power skating wearing on me,
but that translates over, right?
I bet you a lot of the stuff that Tapper worked with you boys having you on ice,
just with handle on the puck and everything else over time,
doing those little skills, builds.
Well, when he tweets them out, like, they're legitimate things that he's taught us.
When we score or make the plays, it's things that he's shown us what to do.
Yeah.
And we've worked on it a lot.
Yeah, like, honestly.
I remember my very first summer with, like, Tapper.
and at the time I was like not a good skater
so I remember and like I hated this
for the first month of the summer double tap
yes double tap double tap
and me too Chase Stevenson who was awesome dude
I remember for so long just step
looking at each you're just doing double tap
for half an hour what is double tap
it's it's hard to explain it's the worst skating
thing ever cross over crossover
but you can't do it slow because then
Tapers leaning over your shoulder, faster, faster, faster.
Yeah, and then, so that kind of made me hate Tapper for a winter.
For a year maybe.
I can remember.
But I'm never coming back to this fucking place.
And here I was the next year.
Like, God damn, when do I go?
Honestly, I can remember going to skill sessions, and I would be like Zainer.
I wasn't a great skater.
So I'd be doing double tap for an hour, and Kale Kleg would be at the Blue Line taking
slap shots.
And I would ask Tapper, I'd be like, why?
I work on my slap shot.
And he'd be like,
you'd need to learn how to do this first.
You learn to skate before you can do that.
And I double tap for a whole summer,
damn near.
And I just had to sit there and watch Kail Kleg, take slap shots.
I just want to score goals.
I just had to, but I had to power skate.
And we still do skate.
And I still power skate,
and I'm graduated.
I'm going to be doing it again this summer.
I was wondering you guys talk a little bit about it,
and I was curious if you all had agents or not.
Do you guys, have you had agents?
Do you still have an agent?
What age did he get an agent at?
Kobe, I see you nod in your head.
We don't need to worry about ages if you don't want, but you have an agent?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I had one, then got a new one maybe last year, last year, two years ago.
It's good.
It's just another lifeline you got, just someone to keep in touch with and talk about hockey your life or whatever.
It's just another out that you got all the time.
Now, is that something you searched out or they searched you?
No, no, they contact you.
I think they would have contacted these guys too, but yeah, they usually reach out when you're fairly young.
Not too young, but once you get close to junior and, yeah, they just kind of help you find your way and put your name out there to teams and stuff like that.
Yeah, I think maybe, I forget, it was either my first year bantam or second year bantam.
Like I got some guys from Saskatoon reached out, and I'm still with them, and yeah, we have a great relationship.
it's not just about hockey, just about life, honestly, if you have problems.
It's just, yeah, like Kobe said, just another person you can talk to.
But, yeah, my guy has been great.
He texts me.
They weren't in contact through the summer, like this summer.
So he's been awesome.
Yeah, I got one when I was 19, I believe, maybe 18.
And I've been with him since.
And, yeah, he's been awesome.
He's the guy that looks for pro tryouts and stuff like that.
And he's been good through all the summers.
been with him.
You're the first guys to come on.
I'm surprised it's taking this long to be Snapchatting out.
I assume that's what Zane are you doing.
I had to send a video of these two morons.
I'm not even mad about it.
If you want to blow up the podcast, you blow up a podcast, man.
Yep, I already put it out there.
This is your boys' episode, so when this comes out, I expect big things now.
Oh, yeah.
She'll go viral.
Yeah, guaranteed.
I'm a social influencer.
How about, uh,
How about your guys' playoffs?
I was curious, does the playoffs ramp up?
I mean, I'm sure it does.
Are the fans just, like, insane?
Is it anything and everything,
or have you had enough taste of it yet?
Okay, well, in Leatheridge.
Yeah, you made the semis twice, right?
Back to back years?
Yeah, like I said, we had pretty good teams.
My first year, first year, we were, like,
one of the top teams all year,
so it was like really cool that was awesome
but my second year like we were like
kind of around 500 all year
and just got hot at the right time like
and that's almost made it sweeter because
we made it to the semis which is really sweet
I think the city even got behind it even more
and then last year like
we were like not gonna make it
like even up to like the last four games
and then
I don't even know how it worked though
but we ended up playing like a tiebreaker
and I know Kobe's going to talk about this.
I 100% know Kobe's going to talk about this.
But Kobe, I guess,
won us to, like, scored the winning goal,
so he'll probably talk about it right now.
But yeah, playoffs are awesome.
I love playoffs.
Well, now you've got to talk about it, Covey.
Yeah, I know.
Three on two, I was looking back door for Zane,
but obviously they're taking the threat away.
So I throw a muffin on net,
and it goes in and had a pretty sweet Sally,
and yeah, it was really hype
and loudest I've ever heard a rink in my,
while I've been on the ice,
and yeah, just my second taste of playoffs,
and I've never seen a city come together
like Camloops did this year.
It was great, like all the stores on the streets
were blue and orange, and like we sold out the rink every night.
Like, it was pretty cool to be a part of.
Which is big for you guys,
because Camloops was empty during the regular season.
Yeah, like regular season.
It'd be lucky to.
They said 3,000 every night, but I don't think we did.
Now, and how many does that barn hold?
Probably six.
At least six.
Yeah, six, seven probably.
So half capacity kind of thing.
And once we got our ticket in, it was sold out every night, standing room only.
Yeah, that was cool.
How about before we hopped to Dallas going to the finals this year?
How about Emmington when you're playing there?
Like, I mean, I'm sure playing in that rink was unreal.
No, it was not.
It was not.
It was not.
Like playoffs or regular?
No, just in general.
No, it was pretty not great actually.
Like weekends were obviously good, but weeknights, it was like bad because the ring so big.
Yeah.
Like even if he got 5,000 people, it was still empty and quiet because it's so big.
Yeah, it was easy for opposing teams to come in and beat us.
Like, there's not much whole nice advantage there.
Yeah.
No such thing as momentum except against us.
And yeah, once he got down and.
games was tough to come back for sure.
Okay, but it was either like they would have no momentum or like we would go in there
and just make a snooose fest.
Yeah.
Oh, crap, it's two nothing for Eminton all the sudden because we didn't even, we were
playing sewer ball until 10 minutes before the game.
Yeah.
This weren't ready to go play in like an empty building and it's like, oh God.
It's hard to get up on both sides for that.
Yeah, for sure.
Even Kootenie would sneak out the odd win in Eminton.
That's how bad it was there.
I won't go into the finals this year.
It was awesome.
I mean, obviously it was my first taste of playoffs.
But it was stressful at the start because we were ranked so high.
And the first series against Seattle was our toughest series besides Prince Albert.
And we weren't sure if we were going to win.
And our fans weren't great, to be honest.
The first game we had at home, we had 4,500 people.
And how many does your building seat?
5,000 with a bunch of standing room.
It's set up weird.
Okay.
There's a huge concourse.
Okay.
But then after that, like, we just started rolling.
I mean, we beat...
Sorry, you said there was 4,500 people and it wasn't that great.
So that's almost capacity.
What was so bad about it?
No, they weren't loud at all.
Oh, you mean they were quiet?
So, like, the Seattle fans that came out cheered the Vancouver fans in Vancouver.
And there would have been 100 Seattle fans.
Like, it was bad.
But then obviously every round it got better
And we rolled through Victoria and four
And that was good
And then we beat Spokane and five
So everything was just going right
And then PA was a different beast
Rolling into Prince Albert for games one and two
Like there was police standing outside the bus
Yeah it looked like quite the atmosphere
When you got to the airport
There was people
Waiting for the you to leave
And there was people saying goodbye to Prince Albert
When we flew back to Vancouver
Like you couldn't hear
You literally couldn't hear
hear your centerman call plays you'd have to read their lips it was so loud in there
your the coaches would be trying to say stuff on the bench you couldn't hear anything
yeah but like pa only fits like 3,000 people like no yeah that's why it's because the ring's so
small yeah that doesn't fit that many people but they were bringing so every game you would get there
and you'd be sitting on the bench around six is six is sorry and then people would run in with
milk cartons to stand so they had standing room and they literally sold milk carton tickets where you
It would stand in a milk carton so you could see over the person in front of you.
And at 6 o'clock, they'd open the doors, and people would sprint around the arena to get standing room.
It was nuts.
It's like the civic with the beams, like almost ice level.
Almost ice level.
Yeah, it's like small town, wooden roof.
You'd skate around.
The whole arena was just covered in signs, and you'd skate to the corner, and it would just, people would just be banging on the glass.
Like, it was nuts.
Very intense.
You may never experience something like that again, or you may go somewhere and experience the same thing.
But small town, I mean, not that Prince Albert's tiny, but for the dub, what you boys are talking about, that's small town.
And when they, well, I mean, that's the finals of the dub, right?
No, yeah.
The videos of it were absolutely cool.
It was just, like, even flying on the planes and stuff.
Like, you get on the plane to fly to PA for game one and two, and it's a charter flight.
You're the only ones on the plane.
It was pretty awesome.
You don't normally do that.
No.
Only for the finals.
Only for the finals.
You roll up to the airport.
There's no security.
You just walk on the plane.
it was pretty neat experience
I kind of had an experience like that
when I my second year in
Lethbridge
My second year in
Lethbridge
We played Swift Courant
And it's kind of the same thing like a small town
Maybe a little bit bigger than PA
But yeah they
They sold out the rink and it's
It's a hard building to play on them
when it's more on top of you.
Because that's what Swiftcrant is.
Like the arena's built like the fans are almost like on top of you more.
So it's super loud, like super intimidating.
So it was a pretty good experience to play in them.
Just any time in a rink like that that the home team scores,
the momentum instantly shifts.
Like we were up, we were up by two and they scored one late in game one, I believe.
And to be honest, I thought they were going to come back.
Because when the fans got behind them, like it was just.
They were all over us for the last six minutes.
I wasn't on the ice, thank God, but they were all over us.
You can imagine they talk about Raptors fans being, well, everybody saw Drake yelling at the opposing team,
but they talk about Toronto's fans being crazy and helping a team out.
You can see it almost get under Golden State Skin.
I can just imagine being where you were at and having all a PA, I'm sure saying a few kind words.
Yeah, no, before we flew out, our coaches said, like, when you get there, it's straight to the bus, straight into the room, like, don't talk to people, block everything out, and then you try your best, but then when you're going out for game one and everyone's waving towels and it's black and they're doing their light show, like, it's kind of hard not to be a little overwhelmed.
That's cool.
I was thinking, what is something that most people don't know about the dub?
you guys all played in it for years
is there something that you
when you first left home
and then you know is it
I have no idea
the way in after Christmas
makes sense to me but I find it kind of funny
but is there something else
like the small things like that
that right at the start of the season
there's something they put you through
is there something through the summer
they keep tabs on you I don't know
heck I'm just throwing darts
and maybe there's something I'll hit on.
Well, I knew we had fitness, my first year,
and I knew we had fitness testing and whatever,
and I thought I was ready.
I don't know.
I was 16, you know, thought I was going to do good.
And they had us running laps around the arena,
and I said, I don't know if this is for me.
I don't think the W.HL is for me anymore.
And so, unfortunately, I didn't make it ever to 16.
And so I went home and I was like,
I need to learn how to run better, too.
So I worked on my skating and worked on my running.
And, I mean, it wasn't great coming back, but at least I was a little bit better.
But, yeah, I just took him by surprise how good, like, everybody was, like, just in shape, you know, ready to play.
Like, really intense, even the training campsite I was, I was in.
It was just super intense.
So that part kind of took me by surprise.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's pretty straightforward.
It is what you expect it to be.
We're on the ice pretty much every day of the year, maybe once a week or not.
other than that
practice, workout
pretty much every day you don't play
if you're not doing that, you're on the bus
for a road game somewhere
or in school.
Some guys go to college.
Yeah, whatever you can keep busy with.
You know, yeah, it's a grind
for sure. And obviously,
I mean, I had said it multiple
times through my career where I'd be like this is
like I just want to go home, like this is
whether it's after a bag skater you roll in at 5 a.m. in the morning and then play at 4 o'clock the next day.
Like it was a lot, but it was always, there was always more fun than there was.
Yeah.
More good times and bad times.
That was one thing, I guess, that now that I'm graduated, I'll talk about it.
But that surprised me is when you have lots of time to have fun.
Like when Cootney was bad.
So we might have done it more than other teams, but we always found time to have fun.
Not Camelps.
Always work.
Vancouver was always work too.
So the weak teams found ways that fun.
So the first three years I had a lot of fun.
Oh, volunteering boys.
Did your teams do anything in the community?
I'm sure they did.
But any highlights of that stuff
of what you guys would have been doing?
I think it's different for every team.
But I think we did pretty good amount of volunteering.
it was either like skating with kids
the edge
yeah that was pretty cool
what's the edge oh yeah okay this is a good
story um so at the start of the year
like before the regular season I even started
me and Kobe
four of the guys um went to
East Hastings Street
which is like downtown
like the biggest homeless street in the world or whatever
where's this at
downtown Vancouver
oh okay yeah yeah
So, like, we got sent there to, like, just see what it is like, like, talk to these people who are, like, addicted to drugs and, like, it's a crazy world.
We're with undercover cops.
Like, we're protected.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was insane.
Looking back on it, like, it was pretty crazy.
But, yeah, so we did that.
And then throughout the year, we would go talk to, like, grade five classes maybe.
I think it was grade five with another cop.
And we just talked about what we've seen and what we've seen.
and what we witnessed kind of like what the smells were.
It was insane.
The street.
Yeah.
Oh,
it was.
It's not.
So we still describe it to me because I honestly, until you said it, I guess I'd never
knew anything about it.
It's like, picture a road that's always gloomy because it's always raining there.
Yeah.
People sleeping everywhere.
You almost can't walk.
There's so many people you can't walk.
Lots of needles.
I think you kind of just have to like search it up on Google to like really.
Because us describing it as nothing, like, it really is.
Like, it is the craziest place I've ever seen in my life.
It's when I went, so we did the same thing.
When I went, like, it's so crazy down there that the cops asked a guy to shoot up heroin so we could see it.
So a guy just shot up heroin into his arm in front of the cops.
And was, like, he was literate before.
He was, seemed intelligent, like, could hold a conversation, like a smart guy, shot up the heroin.
and I kid you not, 30 seconds later was shaking and couldn't speak English and was like having a seizure on the ground.
Like it was ridiculous watching it.
One guy was shitting himself standing up.
There was, like they said, needles everywhere.
It was, you were just uncomfortable the whole time because you just felt bad.
Because they would tell you their stories and it was just one wrong thing.
and they just went down a terrible path
and just,
it was good to go there and learn,
but it wasn't fun.
Like, I didn't enjoy being there.
It was so gloomy and so blah.
Yeah.
One thing, though, they always said, like,
this is my story, like,
you know, they always, like,
like, Dallas said they always had, like,
a reason for, like, why they were there.
But they always said, like,
I don't, we don't want you guys to end up like this.
So they would tell it.
They'd be open about their stories.
Like they would say what happened and, you know, it's crazy hearing some of the stuff.
Me and Kobe talked to a guy who was like two years older than us there.
Who'd went to college.
It was going to university and then just got addicted and he was now living in the streets.
Like it's crazy.
Like stuff you can imagine is like, you can't even imagine it really.
You honestly just have to go there.
It's like movie stuff, but it's right in front.
Is it?
It's not like real life.
Like if we're, when we're from.
out here so it's so much different than Vancouver and it is I was dumbfounded when I saw it
like you were just in shock how it was so open about the drugs and so there were so many people
and it was just gross there was like they had the where you could literally go in to get clean
needles there's so much drugs and so many people doing them they'd rather them they'd rather than
have clean needles then try to stop it because they can't
So they've got them all in that area, or most of them, they try, and they, like, we'd want
you guys to have clean needles because this is, we're just trying to help any way we can.
Like, it was, it was awful.
The craziest part about it is, though, like, Rogers Center, where the Vancouver Canucks play,
is a block away.
Yeah, like you can see it.
Yeah, so it goes east Hasing Street, and then a block over it, you would not even guess that
that was out there.
No.
They don't leave that street, like ever.
Yeah, like downtown Vancouver, like where all the clubs are, whatever, and all like the nice restaurants would, yeah, block or two away from it.
And it's downtown Vancouver is packed at night.
And you don't ever see that there.
You just never hear it.
Well, I shouldn't say that because I'm sure if you look for it, it's there.
But if you're not looking for it, you never hear about it.
No.
Oh, that's a really interesting story.
Thanks for sharing boys.
Because, I mean, that's something I've never heard of teams doing before, right?
I was actually just literally having this conversation with the best friend
We got young kids I got young kids again a three-year-old and
Soon-to-be two-year-old and a third on the way
And we were talking about
This would go a little deep for you
But what you guys are talking about is a little deep
We were talking about how you keep your kids away from drugs when they get older
Because that scares the crap out of us
Something like that I guarantee would probably make you think twice about they were doing drugs
Oh 100%
Yeah
And lots of their stories
is where all I started with weed.
Yeah.
And then just gatewayed.
Like it was just little things where you're like, well,
I mean, I know people that smoke or whatever it is.
Well, it's illegal drug.
Yeah, exactly.
And then it's just, it's eye-opening.
You're just like, holy shit.
Just like, yeah, I don't even know.
Words can't even describe it.
When I left that place, it was,
it was, I don't know if it was life-changing,
but it was, you definitely thought about it.
You definitely are going to stay away from that kind of stuff
because that did not like that.
I want to end up there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I was thinking volunteering as...
But yeah, back to the volunteer.
Yeah, so on hire, no.
I mean, we used to read the kids.
So, no, you guys took that story,
don't want to talk to kids about it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
Schools, I guess Cammoops is big.
You probably just went in Cammoops, right?
So we went to like all over the cootneys kind of.
Yeah.
And talked about your story of going there and...
Yeah, I just told them, like, what they said and what it's...
Make these choices.
Don't make these ones.
Yeah, and kind of how...
This is where this leads to.
Yeah.
This is what you'll be like, stuff like that.
That's pretty cool, guys.
I mean, it's sad that, I mean, like, the actual going to the place and seeing it, like, that's got to be a, well, it would be a tough experience, but getting to share that, even with me, like, that's...
I've never heard that before, so appreciate that.
Yep.
Don't do drugs.
Oh, I don't do drugs.
All right, well, we're well over an hour now.
So I got three, yeah, three I think I'll leave us off with.
And they're nice, easy ones for you, Zayner.
Thank God.
I'm sweating over here.
So if you had a time machine, it could go anywhere in time to any event,
we'll say sporting or anything.
Where would you go and why?
Oh, that is an easy one, hey?
Well, that's an easy one.
There's no pressure.
You can pick whatever you want.
Christ on a cracker.
Holy smokes at.
Where would I go?
One of you guys got to answer first here.
Yeah.
Can we come back to this?
Go to a different one.
You want another one?
You want to save that?
You want your brain thinking about this?
That's how tough it is?
Yeah, I think we're going to take a mulligan on this one.
You can't take a mulligan.
No, we'll come back to it.
Okay.
I'm like a...
You want me to circle back for out?
I think I got my answer.
I think I'd go to the 06 game and Rexal
Stanley Cup finals.
I think that's where I'd like to go back to.
Like at my age now or older,
not as a kid,
what I would have been.
Yeah.
But yeah,
I think that would have been
hectic to experience.
If you could go to game six when they beat them
four nothing?
I don't remember the score.
That white app was bumping that night.
Yeah, it was.
That would be fun.
That would be something I would like to have experienced,
for sure.
I was sitting in,
I can't remember where I was sitting.
I was old enough to go then.
Were you there?
No, no, heck no.
I was 13 years ago, right?
So 06 and 13 years ago, I was 20,
so I was just finishing up my junior career.
I was probably sitting out in Ontario somewhere.
Or I might have just come back, like I was, yeah.
I'm kind of torn because I am like a huge Dallas Stars fan.
Oh, yeah, Dallas Stars.
Wait a second.
Dallas, Eminton, Eminton?
Yeah.
Dallas Stars.
And funny story about this, Dallas Science, that person, is the reason I'm a Dell star friend.
Because me and Dallas are cousins, so we hung out, and then, oh, DEL Star is that a team in the H.L.
Sure, I'll start here for you guys.
It's the same name as my cousin.
And then they were pretty good.
Like, I don't, they were good.
Obviously, they just come off a cup.
So, back to the story, I'm torn between either going to the Stanley Cup final game when they want it.
or when the Raptors won that game seven on the buzzer beater.
Where the ball just hangs there.
That would have been nasty, too.
And I know that's not that far back, but that would be the coolest thing.
I remember watching that game, like, at home and I jumped, like,
that doesn't be my highest burger club ever.
Somebody should have been watching me.
I couldn't play an NBA if I jumped that high all the time.
But, yeah, it's either those two, because those are, like, kind of iconic moments.
Mine is
I'm a little torn too
Because game 6
06 would be
On the party after
Awesome right now
But another Dallas Star's memory is
I don't know if I'd want to go back to it
For any reason besides to see Zane crying
But when Dallas Stars
We're playing the Oilers
Miss the puck
And I can't think of the player
I did
Stefan
Yeah Stefan had the empty net
Are you kidding me?
me the game the Oilers come back,
or tie and then lose it in a shootout?
Shootout. We were there. We were there.
You were there? So we're at that game. Zainer and I
with the Marwan. You were at that game?
Marwain Minor Hockey's at that game.
Zainer's a huge Dallas Stars fan.
They're up. He misses the net.
Berser, our stole,
picks it up, rips it up to Ryan Smith,
who skates down, passes it over
to Hemsky. Hemsky scores,
and Zainer is bawling in the stands.
No, we're young.
We would have been novice or Adam.
We're young.
And he's younger than me, but I just, he was bawling.
And I just remember being, like, so fired up that the orders came back.
Just the video of it would be hilarious.
I think you were wearing a Dallas Stars jersey.
Yeah, like McGrath.
But the Dallas did.
They did win.
I remember that day and like that.
Yeah, like I remember it like yesterday.
I had Jackson and Bryce on here.
That was my first guys I did from the dub.
And Jackson's where he'd take the title.
machine was to that game.
Really?
What a loser.
Honestly.
I'm like, that is a sad day for Oilers fans.
We picked a game where we just make it into overtime and lose to Dallas.
I was hoping.
None of you guys were old enough to remember Todd Mershant scoring the goal.
When Kujo makes a save on the goal line, you're too young for that.
Yep.
You want to talk about now to all the older guys that are listening right now.
They're getting chills thinking back to when Kujo makes the goal.
Like the goal line saves.
if you're all staring at me.
This is crazy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that one, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I remember now.
Oilers back in the, that would have been like late 90s were a blue-collar team, right?
Like, they had no business being in the playoffs.
They played the Dallas stars every year.
Dallas was the perennial favorite powerhouse.
They had the Madanos and everybody else, Joe Nguyen Dyke.
They had, I think Andy Mogan net at that time.
And Kujo, in overtime, makes this save where the guy has an open net, and he shoots it.
and he puts his paddle down and stops it like right on the goal line.
And then the next shift, or shift after,
Todd Marshak goes down, flying down the right wing
and rips it by Moog and they win.
Look that up, boys.
Come on, this is your oil.
Guys, I know this.
I remember watching on, like, I don't know, NHL channel,
they would do, like, those...
The classic games?
Yeah, and they, like, would always...
I remember seeing that, yeah.
Don't know who was scored or anything, but I know Dallas lost.
I was pissed about it.
I was like 10 years old.
God damn it always won.
No, I can't even picture that goal.
A little bit before my time.
Oh, look it up.
Do yourself a favor.
It's probably like, not an ESPN 30 for 30,
but something along that lines on YouTube,
and they'll go through it and break it down,
and it's a fantastic goal.
Like, fantastic.
It's going to have to.
Well, I didn't eat my pick,
but every time I hear it's an oiler's thing,
I'm thinking, is it going to be that night?
Because that night was pretty incredible.
But no, that is my pick, I don't know what I'd go back to.
Actually, I've done the question I've never really come around on what I'd go back to.
Probably Sidney Crosby scoring to win Olympics in Vancouver.
That's a good one.
Right, against the States.
I would have been in college at that point in time, surrounded by Americans,
and there was a group of us Canadians and, you know, how it is.
We start, you know, bantering who's going to win, right?
And then you win it like that, and it's Crosby?
That would be pretty cool to be in the building.
Yeah, I remember where I was there, too, of watching it.
So that's pretty...
It's like one of those moments you just never forget.
Vancouver at that time, this age would be a lot of fun.
It'd be more fun than the 06 one, I think.
I think I want to change my answer.
To you, not to that.
I'm thinking about, like, huge moments, like, just crazy moments.
I'd go back to watch Bautista hit the home run.
like the bath flip yeah that's lock it
that's my final answer
final answer that is
I remember watching that too
I remember watching that too
and that is the coolest moment I think ever
you want to know where I was at that point in time
it's working for champion
north of Talby Lake listening to it on serious
satellite because I was still outworking
so I was listening to the game
and I almost swirving hit the ditch when they did the bad
I didn't get to see the bad flip but the
commentators were that good
yeah that's insane I can remember it too
I was laying in bed in Cranbrook, and it happened, and I shot out of bed.
That was exciting.
Yeah, it's as long as moments.
Oh, iconic sports moments, right?
It's too bad they wouldn't have went on to win it all.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
All right.
If you could pick, well, we'll go for the forwards.
I got obviously Mr. Heinz, your D-Man, but we're going to do, if you could pick your linemates
or your defense partner can be anyone.
Who would it be?
I got money on your answer, Zane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, let's hear it.
Okay.
For sure, one,
Jamie Bandel stars.
Of course,
pretty much the same player,
so it would be good.
And then,
I don't know.
I need somebody pass me a puck.
Probably like Sega,
I guess.
Two for two.
Or Mado, maybe.
going back.
It's something of my stars.
I don't know.
Either is one of those three.
Medano, Sagan, or Jane Ben.
Yeah.
Those are my two.
Okay, I'm going to say Medano and Ben.
Those are my two then.
Narrated it down for you guys.
Yeah, what do you think, Kobe?
Bertuzi and Marchand.
And Marchand?
Yeah.
Brad.
Yeah.
Oh, so you're Twit.
Bertuzi and Marchand.
That's your two?
Three similar players.
No, no, I'm not like them.
No.
Why are those two?
It really emulates his play style.
Some might say that, yeah.
No, just they play the game hard and right, so.
Bradmore churnit licks people, so the right way.
Who would you pick Dallas for your...
Damn, Funf.
No, I used to love Funf.
I've got pictures of Funf in my room, but I pick...
There's rumors out there, not rumors, I shouldn't say,
that there's been articles written on why the Oilers should pick him up
because he just got bought out by LA.
He did, just got bought out.
He did.
I'm not saying the owner should go pick him up.
I'm just saying what the rumors are.
I'd probably get a fun enough of a jersey to be honest.
No, my pick.
I probably give it to you.
Would be Al McKinnis.
Al McKinnis?
Because he wore number two.
I watched a lot of Rockham sockham growing up.
A die of an oilers fan and you're going to pick Al McKinney.
And he had an absolute rocket of a slap shot.
He did.
Put it through the boards hard.
Yes, this is true.
I will give you that.
He has an absolute rocket.
He was a flame, but I'm going to go with it.
Al McKinness.
I think that's probably the worst answer you've ever got.
It's the first time I've ever done this question,
so we'll wait and see what happens.
Hey, I'm sticking to my guns.
Al McKinness, I didn't think he'd come up.
I could have put money.
I was going to be Dion.
The Prime Dion.
Prime Dion up back in.
He was Calgary, too, though.
Yeah, his best days were in Calgary for sure
Yeah
Right after that he becomes a tire fire
I mean
Not to rag on Dioffing up
But I mean
Where to go with Toronto
Ottawa, L.A., bought out
And now he's
I forgot he was in Ottawa
Yeah, he went to Ottawa for a couple of seasons
I want to say
Yeah
Guy makes a lot of money though
So
He does
He did
Yeah
Yeah
I'd take his life for sure
Yeah
Give it to me
Yeah
All right.
You boys wrote this on the questionnaire I sent out.
Who is the best player you've played with or against?
Or actually, both of them, played with and against.
I'll go first because I said okay.
Best player I played with, that's kind of biased.
But Jordi Bellary with Lesbridge, him and I were roommates.
so I kind of have to go with him
because he is such a good dude and a good hockey player
so I have to go with him
and then Best Player play against Dallas knows him
Bowen Byram
he's sick
He's good hockey
Yeah
And I made on the top 10 once
Because I got lit up by Bowen Byron
So there's my five minutes of fame
Yeah the best player I've played with and against
Is Bowen Byram
I've never
I've never seen a player at 17
dominate the Western League like that.
He set the record for overtime goals this year,
and I think three of them or two of them were against you guys,
and he would pick up the puck,
float around in the neutral zone,
wait for someone to be a step off,
and then he would just beat him wide with speed and score every time.
Like he was dominant.
In the playoffs, he led the playoffs in scoring,
like he was just dominant.
And a great dude.
Best player I played with, probably Trey Fix Wollansky.
Trey, and who's he with?
He's with Edmonton.
Okay.
He just got drafted to Columbus.
Okay.
Two years ago, I think we had 12 wins maybe.
He still had like 80, 90 points.
Oh, yeah.
Pretty much got us all 12 with those wins.
Hopefully he doesn't listen to this.
And played against probably Matt Barzell.
Yeah, Barzell.
He's come up a couple times.
He did what he does now in junior times like three.
And his linemates were gross, too.
Colzar and Grop
And they would just dominate
A whole team, those three
It wasn't fun playing against them
No, and they were big and scary
And anyone of them could score
Like it was just not fun
Not a fun time to play Seattle
Man, Barzow, I would watch Barzal from the bench
And just, and be like, on the ice even too
Like on the ice, he burnt me wide a couple times
So I must have been watching
But no, just the way he would move
And pass the puck, he would put
Like, he's literally still doing it now in the NHL.
Imagine him in junior with 16, 17-year-olds just staring at him.
He's doing it against top-line defenseman in the NHL,
and he was doing it against me two years ago.
So that's a good contrast.
We got the NHL draft coming up on Friday, fellas.
Who's going to be first overall?
I haven't really seen the other.
I think the finish guy, Capo Cackle, because he's big.
That's a bad take.
You think Jack Hughes?
Yeah.
can't take a I can't take him first well I mean you can there's nothing saying
you can't what who's going first like who's drafting first
Jersey is it New Jersey it is New Jersey New Jersey is drafting first yeah yeah
yeah I don't know they picked they picked he sure's European first overall
a couple years ago and he's been good hey Taylor Hall is made a free agent yeah
he's coming back to Emerton yeah he is he bleeds blue
Goyle.
Goil.
Who's going to be the highest guy to go out of the dub?
Byram.
Buy him.
What do you think he's going top five?
Third.
I think he's going third?
To Chicago, right?
Chicago's fourth, I think.
I don't know.
It'll be whatever team needs a D-Man,
because he'll be the first D-Men to go.
He's just that good.
He's that good.
All right, fantasy owners.
That's the guy you got to watch you up for, I guess.
I think I'm, like, probably like, one of the...
I could be, like, six,
I'm a sick gym and NHL, like on my Xbox.
Me too, when the salary cap's off?
I sign good teams with no salary cap.
You know what?
I want to do one more.
We're going to do the buyout trade sign game
because I got two other fans,
I got a Dallas Star fan.
I always like this.
So instead of date, marry,
whatever the other part of the game,
kill.
Oh, yeah, I know the other part of the game.
Yeah, or something.
Kill Marion.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay.
Let's play that game.
So Dallas Stars,
you got to buy one out,
you got to trade one,
you got to sign one.
I'll give you Radulov, Ben, and Sagan.
Okay.
Okay.
Forget what I have to do.
Buy out someone?
Yeah, buy out one.
Sign one, long term.
And trade one.
Signed, Ben.
Okay, buying out, Radulov.
Gone, Russian. Bad.
Just kidding.
I don't know.
Honestly.
It's tough, guys.
It's tough.
I'm going to sign Jamie Ben.
Yeah, got to.
That's an easy one.
Well, it's tough.
It's tough.
I got to sign Jamie Ben.
It's easy.
I think of it really.
I take my stick like him too, so I got to.
I got to sign him, then I'll do whatever with Sagan.
I forget the question again.
Trade him.
Trade him.
Trade him.
That's good trade, B.
I'll get something good in return.
Yep.
All right, Kobe.
We'll go Oilers.
Cassie and Luchich and G.
J.
care
care.
Hey, I fought
Carr's brother.
It's pretty big guy.
Oh my God.
A little quick take there.
Actually, I do like Cassian.
For sure, I'm going to sign him long term.
I got a Cassian jersey in my room.
That's true, true fact.
Then Luchich and Kara, and I got to trade one and
what?
It's not that easy.
Trade and buy one out.
So you got either buyout.
Yeah, yeah.
buyer to trade.
You're getting more on the trade market for Loochich or G.Jara,
Kara, for sure.
Yeah?
So you're buying out Luchich, which half of Amitin right now would be happy about that?
Yeah, I'll give the people what they want.
You want to give people what they want?
Yeah, all right, fair enough.
I'm a guy's guy.
Finally, Mr. Hines, I got Evan Bouchard, Ethan Bear, Darnel Nurse.
Oh.
That's a good one.
Oh.
Ethan Bear was also on that Seattle team.
Yeah, and I'm pretty as if he's good, but Bouchard,
was a high pick. I would trade
nurse. Probably got the most value.
Okay, well, that's
I would argue, but sure.
I would
buy out bear
and sign Bouchard.
Sign Bouchard, trade nurse.
Bouchard would be better than nurse.
You think so?
I think so.
And Bear's good, but
he was up in NHL and he's back in A.
So that's my GM take.
Hot take.
Hot take of the year.
Well, thanks for coming on, boys.
I appreciate having you, you fellas in.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Yeah, this is awesome.
It was a lot of fun.
I'll get my days again.
Sign me up.
I tell you what, if the fans want it, we'll have you back on.
Oh, yeah.
I'm in.
Sounds good, guys.
Thanks for being on.
Thanks.
Hey, guys.
I hope you enjoyed those three.
We had a pretty good time here in the studio.
Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
Worth some good chuckles anyways.
Next week on the podcast, I have Kyler Hope.
He's born and raised in Lashburn, Saskatchewan.
He played his minor hockey in Lashburn.
He even got to play a little bit with a mixed team that saw him playing out of Hillmon for one season.
The Midwest Red Wings, Fort Battle for Prince Albert,
and he made his way out to West Cologne and Junior A club out there.
and he came back to Lloyd in his final year, Junior A,
and won the Royal Bank Cup here on Home Ice when Lloyd Minster hosted.
And he got to have a party out at the farm after with all of his buddies,
and it's a pretty cool story.
He's now playing Division I up in Alaska Fairbanks.
And so I look forward to having them in, and until then, thanks, guys.
