Shaun Newman Podcast - #251 - Brothers Roundtable 8

Episode Date: April 8, 2022

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all born and raised in Hillmont, Saskatchewan, all die-hard Euler fans who are far from experts. But no worries, we're going to argue like we are. The Golden Child, the Birdman, the engineer, and the big man. Another Newman Brothers roundtable. So buckle up. Here we go. Hey, welcome to Sean Newman podcast.

It's been a while, fellas. Jay's going to cop in the intro. Of course he is. Well, yeah, it's been an interesting year. and I don't know it's kind of good to get back in the studio and maybe talk a little sports we'll see where the day takes us

the afternoon takes us but what are you guys' thoughts on the Oilers and I don't know let's just start with the Oilers I can see Dustin he's just whining up he's probably been chopping at the bed

so I got two things one I was right about the Oilers oilers goal attending is crap and I knew it about a year ago and they should have fixed it and they didn't ran with with an old guy and a guy who's an okay backup and they ran with it the second thing i'll

say is i probably hold hauling a little bit more credit than what i gave him because i was hard on him on a couple moves and he's been right on a couple of them for sure that's the most humble i've ever heard dust in my last i'm kidding you know here's here's my i was right about the gold but here's not that you not that any of us were saying that you were wrong but the problem is to this day is nobody's really other than i'm going to give shan low credit because he said Mark Andre Fleury, and I think if it would have been done right, maybe they could have got Flurry back in the day like Sean talked about, right, from Vegas. But they're really, who would you have brought in? I tell you what. Who's out there that somebody, you know, Varlamoff

they said wouldn't have come. So who's you bringing in? No, no, no, but the last, okay, you don't go with the trade deadline. You got to go back to the last offsys. Well, I don't know. There's lots of goalies out there. Who? I don't know. Exactly. You don't know. There's a bunch of goalies that you could have went after. You know, we can sit here and talk about everything we don't like about the world. Who's got the worst? Whoa, whoa. Who's got the worst goaltending in the league? I don't know who does. It's got to be the Oilers, isn't it?

You don't even know the answer to that? You're just sort of shit? Don't they? Anyways. I can't believe I said the first. Okay, no, no, no, no. That's where I'm out already what does. Where's the... There's the... I'm on a two minutes about goalties. Don't have a solution. You don't have a solution from last year? This is what I'd say is

I look around at any other team and I look at the oilers goal tening situation. They had the worst gold-tening duo in the league. And the reason why they have is Mike Smith they were seventh overall yes and this year they're it doesn't even matter if they're last or not because Mike Smith is like 39 years old they got him for an extra year which is completely insane and you got Koskin and who's done at the end of the year where you're like do you bring him back to play with Mike Smith next year like it makes a good first pass it was a great pass last that was some hockey IQ there the one thing the one thing that the one thing that eminton has that

going against him right now is, and it has nothing to do with Holland, but Sherelli signed Koskin into that deal. And I think that that really- Signed by Holland to two years as a 39-year-old. No, I agreed, agreed. But he's going at it where he's under a cap restriction. You're limited to the amount of goalies that you're out, right? So then because that was the deal that Smith would only take, right?

So he wouldn't do a one-year deal. You don't get Smith the option. Who do you think swooping into? to pick Smith up. If Smith doesn't want the deal, you let him walk. The thing about it is, though, is he's taking the devil that he knows than the one that he doesn't, right? And so at least you know who you're getting the everybody, even now to this day, right, even with Smith being out, and when Smith came back after being gone for over the month there, a lot of guys still talk about how when he walks in the room, everybody notices. He is a good guy. Can he play the position or not?

That's all I care about. Literally. He won the most. He won the moment. He won the room. He won the room. He was, he the game last night whether you want to tell him about one game here is he taking him to the finals or not you've got the two best players and the hl understand though welcome says two best forwards in the n hl and you're sitting there going can we even make it okay okay so then goaltending no but at the same time too though you're not trying to overpay for a goaltender and if you're coming from a position of weakness which the oilers constantly have been in is a position of weakness where people are going yeah i'm not going to give him this because I know that they're they need this guy and so they're going to have to give me a first they're going to have to give me some of their top prospects well now you're

coming in where you're not in a position of weakness anymore and you can actually make a decent deal that's the one thing that I do like about Holland is yeah no maybe it's not the long term fix that he's we're looking for but it's kind of like the Evander Kane thing I love the Evander Kane thing because whether or not he's good for you long term or not they got him at a steel for next to nothing and you're getting a proven 30 goals score. Right. The one thing I'll say about the goaltending is what Sean had brought up about a month ago. And this is the, so I'm going to compromise here.

I'm going to go, you know what, I didn't feel like last summer there was a better goalie than what they were. There just wasn't out there to sign. But I remember us talking about a month, month and a half ago, Skinner had come in. He's still sporting over a 9-10% percentage. It's the best goalie in the HL. and you could have ran with him two out of three games for like three, four weeks before the trade deadline and see what you had. Absolutely.

And now you're still sitting here. You still don't know what you have. He might be the best goalie to come out of the American Hockey League, or should you be trying for a play for a guy like Knight out of Florida or Carhart or somebody else? But you don't know because you didn't do that. The only thing in regards to that, though, too, is they're a little bit of hamstrung with Smith because they can't send him down. No, they can send Smith down. I'm sure they can send Smith down. They can't send Toskin.

He's got to go through waivers. Who's picking Smith up on an extra deal? Oh, no, there's lots of teams, right, Arles? No, I wasn't saying that at all. Well, that's why he could get the second years because that's what Smith wanted. I agree with someone scooping him. Probably this year, nobody's picking up Smith because he's got that second year. So here's the thing about the thing about the scanner too is this, is that if you don't do that now, what do you do this offseason?

Well, you got to assume that he's going to be one of your two guys, no? Yeah. But is he? We don't know. So you're letting Kosten him walk. putting in Skinner when you haven't played Skinner that much and you're going to go Skinner and Smith going into next year. Isn't that a little bit scary too? Well, that's why we like the idea of playing him there for two or three weeks to see if he could

run with the ball, right? The only thing with... John still thinks, I bet you're right now if you ask Sean, he still thinks you could plug them in and he could run with that ball right now. Well, I just, to me, I'm like, why not? Now, you know, now like last night, Smith plays good, right? So now you're like, well, why mess with it for the L.A. Kings, right? It's like, okay, so you put Smith in, and then he lets in seven and you lose the game. The only thing, but who knows?

Because we, once again, this is, we're doing this before that game, right? They should have, they should have started Skinner earlier on in the season and got him some games and allowed him to play more into that. 100% agree there. The, out of the 12 games that Skinner played, only one of the games that he played in was against a team that is in the playoffs currently right now as we sit. So the other 11 games were against week or half teams, and he went six and six. Now, is that a goalie that you're going to want? Not at the time when they were playing him. To go into the later part of the season and continue to play him, I don't know if that

was necessarily the right time. They should have been playing him earlier on, and the only reason why they didn't do that was because the COVID and then Smith getting hurt was later on. I think I've said this about 100 bazillion times on here, but if he's ready, you play him, And if he starts to struggle, you send him down. This is not complicated. If he's one of your best two goalies, you play him. And at this point, he's one of your two best goalies, so you play him.

The only thing going into. All the other stuff. Do you guys honestly, though, so sitting here right now, after watching the last, I mean, they've won five in a row. Do you feel like their problem is goaltending? Going to the playoffs, yes. Or do you think their number one problem is still not a strong enough defensive back? Defense isn't helping them.

Like, do you think, if you, if you, if you, if you, So let me ask you this way, Dust. If you added, let's not go with the top top goalie, let's say it had Darcy Kumpur there right now. Sure. Are they a team going to the Stanley Cup final because you play Smith with Comper? Or would they be a bet,

or would you feel more like they have a chance to get into the final if they picked up a guy like, who's the number 1D, like Peter Angelo was there? I tell you what I mean. I tell you what, their biggest weakness is goaltending, and goaltending can win and lose you a series, which means I go if they had a better goalie, you have a shot.

Now, do I think they're going to the final? No, I don't think they're quite a well-nough, rounded team to beat some of the teams that are stronger. I don't know if they can beat Colorado in a seven-game series. I don't know if they can beat Calgary in a seven-game series. Having said that, if their goal-tending was a little better, you have a shot. Right now, I don't think their goal-tending is good enough,

which means I don't think they can make the fun. I was listening to Woodley talking there yesterday on Stoffer show, and he was talking about before, when their old coach was in there, they were the worst team for high percentage chances given up in their own end. The worst. The Oilers were.

Since then, they have corrected that and they're back down into like number seven, but they have now transitioned into where they're giving the most odd man rushes against their D period since he's come back or since they've switched coaches, right? So now you're giving up one side of thing, and this kind of goes to what Jay's talking about, right?

So you've given up and you've tightened in your own end, so you're not giving up those high quality chances, but you're giving away two-on-one's breakways a lot more now. So, you know, what are you really trading up? And so then, you know, how much is that affecting your goalies as a combination at the same time, right? So then is it the goalies or is it the defensive play? Is it the defense itself?

How is that factoring into all? Are you really saying the goaltending is not an issue here? No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's not. I am saying that. I am saying how many games you guys watch lately where even the Oilers win and they're up by two or three and they give up their two or three goal advantage. It's not like stuff's going in from the blue line and guys are just beating guys clean. Like to me, the defense, you go, do you have a pair out there?

I mean, did you see Nurse cough up the puck? You're in a one-one game with three minutes left and he's fiddled Barton with it in front of his own net. He's supposed to be your number one D. Kind of reminds me the guy who tried to saucer pass across the blue line with a middle line. Which is why I'm not, today at Noon Air Hockey. Which is why I'm not paid $9 million a year. It's supposed to be a team's number one D though. You know, like I just, I wonder, let's say you had Peter Angelo and Char in there versus Duncan Keith and Cody Sisi.

What, would you see a difference there? I go back to could their defense use improvement? Sure. But their goaltending still their biggest goal. You know what's how you're not talking about their depth of Ford zone? You feel like, you know what? I feel like 1 through 12 if they stay healthy, they could compete probably against most teams in league.

Feel like their defense has got a couple holes. Yes. Feel like their goaltending is aging, and you'd like to see an upgrade there. But I feel like in a one-time run through the playoffs, if the defense was better, they'd have a shot. You think their goal-tending could get through four rounds? I think because they both are,

neither of them are true starters like a Vazelowski, but neither of them are true backups. So you could run with both of them at different times. You don't think Mike Smith's a backup at this point? No, they've been running with him. They're a playoff team. They're beating teams like the Kings. They're beating teams like St. Louis.

They're running with Mike Smith. And not every goalie. Even Andre Vasiliske there, they got beat 6-2 there the other night, led in six goals. There's no goalie in the league that lets one goal in every game. No, I get that, Jay, but on the whole, the Oilers are run. The goalies on the oilers have been running with Mike Smith and winning games. And if I see when the other team. They keep winning games like seven.

and six. Well, they just won... You can't go off last night's game where they won two one. Okay, that's one game. It's one game. So what did they beat the Kings by? 3-2? There was 2 or sounds 8-3-2 or something?

No, they beat Samans. Oh, Anaheim was 5 or 6-1, so they only let him one there. I think... Shall I get in here. I'm just enjoying this, fellas. Should we go through the last five? I tell you what. One of the things I was going to comment on about Holland was like he gets a pass with me for a lot of things.

I'm pretty lenient on Oilers' GMs. The thing that really irritated me was the Mike Smith two years. One year, I'm like, oh, that's fine. That's fine. Even $2 million. That's fine. Mike Smith had a great year last year and probably deserved a one-year contract. I'll give you that.

Two years, bug me. But as soon as you sign him for two years, everybody and their dog, all Euler fans were like, why would we sign him for two years? who's coming in and stealing Mike Smith from us at two-year deal. I'll tell you, nobody. Everybody looked at that deal in the NHL and went, that was a bad deal. You know what happens with all the stars when they get later in their careers too? Joe Thornton, what do you do? One-year deals every year.

Even though he'd been there at the same team forever and still could play, it was a one-year deal every year. I agree, but now we're down to one versus two years. We're talking about how it is now. Three of the last five games, the Oilers have allowed one goal. Great. They beat the Kings four to three in overtime. And yes, they had where they had a little bit of a higher scoring game, six, five.

So three of the last five games are gone. Woodcroft, what it counted the most. Woodcroft has head coach for 27 games. They've had three five game winning streaks. He is 18, seven, and two with a 703 winning percentage. I think for the time being- coaching or goalies? If you would, hey, here, here.

Woodcroft, if you're Ken Holland, do you sign him back? Yes, 100%. You know what? I was a I fought you guys on this. I'm like, it's not going to make that big of a deal. I've been impressed with Woodcroft, so I'm good with it. Oh, did I? Did I, did I? Dust is agreeing?

I'm not opposed to saying that I'm wrong. Okay. Hey, you heard that, listeners. If your Woodcroft, do you sign back? Yes. Why wouldn't he? Sure. I can't see why you wouldn't.

Signed a three-year deal. No, wait, years. As a, as a, as a, he's got the two best forwards in the NHL. Why, what was the big thing for Tippett coming in? You've got two of the best. best forwards in the entire NHL who wouldn't want to coach that are they the two best forwards in the NHL yes got to be right up okay so how is the best player in league oh 100% so whenever I talk about this because the guys are like okay well who's better

blah blah blah all I can do is go if I'm a GM am I trading McDavid for anyone else in the league and you go no right correct now if you have dry settle on one team and McDavid on the other would you take dry subtle if you had McDavid probably not. No. But if you had dry saddle, you could trade him and get back with David. Would you take McDavid? Yeah, I'm a McDavid guy. Sure. Okay. So then you go, is Drycel the second best player in the league? If you got one team with Drysidal and another team with Austin Matthews, are you trading Drysiddle for Austin Matthews and vice versa? I probably wouldn't just because, unless I was unhappy with the guy, they're both very, very similar players. Yes. Right. And I don't

think there's one advantage over the other guy. I think they're right there's pretty close, right? And to be honest, I would take both them guys over McKinnon. McKinnon, when healthy, is probably closer to McDavid, but he gets injured one more. He has a lot of problems with injuries. He goes so hard. Yeah. So here's the thing. Bill Simmons used to do this for a

basketball back in the day, essentially, or football, one of the two. Football maybe. But I think that's the way to do it. And then you start grouping your players together where you're like, these players are so close that either way. Right. But you got McDavid up here, and then you got a group that has dry

title and Matthews in there and then just below that you probably have Marner and and McKinnon and whoever else okay so let's do with your defense then who who would who's the best player in that defense you wouldn't trade for any of the defense one yours is darnel nurse your number one guy or is it Evan Bouchard is it Cody C C C C I don't know who's your guy it's getting funny but Tyson Barry like who's your guy probably Bouchard I think is so Bouchard you would not so if you were offered Darnel nurse trade across for Bouchard forget about money right now the problem

The problem right now is Bouchard needs some time, right? No doubt. He's making... But as a GM, you take that into account, don't you? See what I mean? No, it's pretty hard because you're going, I could take a lot of defensemen. Who's the best D-Man in the NHL right now, then? Well, I'm a big Victor Hedman guy. Yeah?

Right? Well, I mean, he's offensive, shut down, one cups. I don't know. Where's Yosey and all this? Yosey's got to be... Top five? Yeah, Yosey's probably top 10 there. The thing I love about Headman is you get...

It's the same thing that we talk about. Shut down D is complete. The worry, the thing I worry about Emmerton. And the thing you love about Headman, the thing you loved about Chris Pronger, yeah, guys like that, is they could put up 50 points or 60 points,

but they still could shut down the other team's top line. If it's a rough game, they're going to get in your face. You're going to go after headman? Whereas Romanoes, he's a really nice, really good hockey player. Can he lead Nashville to the cup?

So what reminds me of his pronger and Char was the same way in his prime, was when they were on the ice, you're screw. Right. Lidstrom, Hadman. Those guys, to me, they're all in the same. They just control the ice. That's what a great defenseman does. Yeah. And yeah, Lidstrom was like that, right? And there's just, there's so few of them, right? You have, Drew Dowdy was like that in his prime, right? King's one cups. What's actually funny at the defenseman right now is I think there's almost a little bit of a lull. You can talk Victor Hadman and I agree because he's still in his prime. But some of the best defensemen are, you know,

like Duncan Keith and Drew Doughty and some of those guys. are starting to get over the hill and there's kind of a lull in the middle. But isn't Kail McCar taking over for a Duncan Keith kind of? Yeah. You got Adam Fox there. Yeah. Right with the Rangers? Fair enough.

But I still, if I had to, if I have to draft a D, I'm still taking an Aaron Eckblad type over an Adam Fox type. Now, maybe I don't know Adam very well and maybe he's a bigger enough player that, you know, and that's what the playoffs will show. Maybe he's a true legit shutdown guy and still put up 70. Well, who's that guy off Dallas that it was so good. A hiskin? Yeah. man, he's dynamite too. I remember watching him in the playoffs a few years ago and I was like, who is this guy?

The thing with all this is, so we're talking about defensemen, you know, somebody overachieving that a team might want to try and take that, you know, and everybody's probably going to laugh right off the start rate, but Pliarvi right now, he's plus 21 and tied with McDavid and Driesiddle for best, you know, and you go as Pliarvey. Yeah, but, you know, that's, you know, that. That might be a bigger trading chip that, you know, maybe not big. But, you know, at some point, you're going to have to start getting rid of some of these guys and being able to bring in some of your stuff that you're lacking, right?

Defense is somewhere where they're locking. You throw him in, you throw in a Bouchard and can you get, you know, somebody a bit better? Here's my problem with that. And this is, and I understand at some point, but to me, people, players that are, start on that original team, that's their team. So you take Polly Irving, McDavid, Yamamoto, Bouchard, nurse. They've never played for anybody else.

And they bleed oilers. And it seems like sometimes in the league, as guys start to get traded, they realize it's just a job, and they'll still play hard and stuff, but they don't have that intangible. Not as personal. And if you look at Tampa Bay winning cups,

you look at the Kings and the Blackhawks and the Penguins, I'm not saying you still got to bring in the ringer at the end, but even look at the border kings back in the day. When they were winning the Allen Cup to begin with, I mean, how many local guys? And then, yeah, you go out and grab them two or three ringers. Just to put you over the top. Right? So what you're saying, Harles, is I like keeping all them guys.

And then when you're ready, can you take your first round pick maybe and you go pick up Brett Hall? Or, you know, whoever's at the time. Yeah, he's retired. Brett Hall-esque. Brett Hall-Hull-esque. Holland's best deal he ever made was not trading Pooley-RVee. Right. That was his best deal.

picking up keen but but Pooley Rvey everybody it kind of reminds you Zach Heimonsine kind of reminds you No no it was good The thing about Pooley RV is you would have got nothing for him

If you traded him away And you go well he's still not the greatest player now There's a top top top top top two line I don't mind them at all maybe on a championship team Is a third line wear Is that fair? Yeah But he does some things

But you got it's good You got them back in the fold right Like you didn't let an asset walk away He's a top 10 pick, right? Like, you had a top five pick. I mean... I've been watching how he back checks.

I'm trying to emulate his game. I'm sure you are. Ways to go there. You still got to cross the blue line, though, right? Yeah, I'm working on blocking shots. You see cowboy blocking shots today down on one knee? I know. Hey?

Drysettle scores 50. Here's a trivia question. Before Leon, because I know Todd pointed this out to me. I meant before Leon. But before Leon, who was the last? 50 goal score the Oilers had. Craig Simpson? No.

Bill Garrett? Ooh. I forgot about him. Did Garan get 50? Did McDavid get 50? No, it's not McDavid. There is one... Wasn't it Craig Simpson?

Back in the early 90s? That was a long time ago. One, early 90s? Two, three, four, five Oilers other than Leon to score 50. Okay. Now there's been multiple Csonsonson. So that's Curry, Grexie, Messier. Yes.

Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson. Glenn Anderson. Craig Simpson. Craig Simpson's got to be the last guy. So Simpson's the last guy. Craig Simpson scored 54 goals in the 86-87 season. Oh no, so he wasn't the last guy. And Grexki scored 62 goals in the 86-87 season.

That's the last season. So Gregski is the last one. Well, that's Messier scored 50 in 81-82. Anderson 54 and 8586 Curry 54 and 86 87 Unless this is old

So Curry then would be the last one Curry and Grexky in the same season Curry Grexky and Craig Simpson 8687 There was three of them 50 goals scores Oh no Craig Simpson's 87 88 87 88 2 and 26 87 87 87 87 87 87

It was right Craig Simpson is right Is that hard to believe It is for me. No, 50 goals scores are hard to come by. Hard to come by. Well, look, Matthews is going to beat Rick Vibe all time with the Leafs. They've been around over 100 years.

How many is he got to get? He's tied right now. He's 54. 54, and Rick Vibe holds the all-time leaf total of 54. Rick Vibe was a beauty, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Before my time.

You know, we bring this up, I'm just trying to find it here quick. But I feel like we've brought this up before, but I'm going to bring it up again. and nobody wants to talk about Ovechkin because he's Russian or whatever. I don't get it. I mean, I do get it, but I don't get it in the sense that I don't think Ovechkin is the guy over in the Ukraine. But he's chasing Gretzky down for most goals. Is he going to get there? Because he is like, barring a major injury, I'm saying yes.

I think he is. And he should go down as the greatest goal score ever played the game. I still think Mike Bossy's the greatest ever. What Ovechkin did in a hockey game that was. that defensive is incredible. Sure, but Gretchen also did a lot of that on the power play. Sure. Right?

To me, Mike Bossy, 950 goal seasons and then retired. Like, think about that. Is that what it was? Yeah. He retired because of knee injuries. Kind of had the bobby your problem, right? But I mean, he, like, he showed up, scored 50 every year, and then retired. But isn't that what makes, isn't that what makes a Vetchkin so damn,

impressive is like the longevity and missing out and lockout seasons and everything else how many 50 goals seasons is a match can have that's a good question how many 40 like he must have 40 goals in pretty much every season he's been in the league hasn't he yeah i can remember one year he had 33 or 30 something like that and he might have missed 51 year how old is he now he's about 36 i'm going to say 30 30 36 he's putting up over 40 at 36 turns 37 in september he could put a 50 this year yeah i think I think the only thing holding him, though, is, well, it could be a couple things, too. I mean, he's playing on still a pretty good hockey team. So if you...

I think Mike Bossies, New York Islanders won cup four years ago. No, but I'm not comparing him like that. I mean, chasing Gretzky's record. So if you put a vetchkin right now on the Arizona Coyotes, can he score 40, 40 to 50 goals with the county? Okay. Eight, eight, 50 goal seasons. Eight 50 goals season. And he had one where he hit 46, 47.

Like that is just retarded. Oh, no, wait. it. Sorry. Like he's that old still putting, like he's what, top five and goals this year again? Yeah, he's up there. Turn in 37. It's kind of like. Matthews, dry sidel. Yeah, no, Chris Fryder. When you're talking about some of these guys, though, right? It's kind of like going into the hockey Hall of Fame, right? It's great that you had a great career, but because it's shortened, does that affect you as far as trying to get into the Hall of Fame, right? And so when you're talking about some of these, is it not just as impressive that Ovechkin has done it for

so long. Oh, 100% of it. And so you're talking just about bossy, right? I understand, you know, that he did that and it was only eight seasons, but it was only eight seasons. So then, you know, greatest goal score, I'm kind of am, I guess, going towards... Who's the best defenseman ever? They save Bobby Orr. Right.

And he only played about nine or ten seasons because of bad knees. It's true. Yeah. What did you find? Well, I was you going to say on a Vetchkin, eight, 50 goal seasons, he had three in the 40s, like 46, four. 48 and a 49, I believe. And this year he's at 40 some again.

He's at 42. Yeah. Yeah, that's not a clue. This will be his fourth. Like the guy, and you remember when they were saying, Ovechkins lost it when he had his 30 goal season? Yeah.

And I was like, oh, yeah, he's falling off the map. He didn't fall off the map, right? Like, not even remote. It's incredible what he's done. And to actually break Gretzky's record, that's incredible. That would be something that nobody ever seen come. But I think it doesn't win in the cup

kind of rejuvenate a person to get your love for the game, back right and all of a sudden you it adds a little extra swagger in your step and now you it does actually harles because i know when we went to the dusty man here we uh winning that uh championship uh you know really put an extra pep in my step for sure especially after i was uh dropped down in favor of some guy named d'ersensky mm-hmm it was a good trade for us uh Nate gets props on that yeah yeah um but but only did you guys did make it to sunday finally so it did you did manage get there you know maybe got it fine tune again next year to try and get over the hump win that championship.

I don't think we're training you back. No, I'm just telling you, though, it did put a little extra pep in my step. Good call, Hals. You know, 20 years from now, I'll look back on this and I'll go, Jay had to find a way to get the never sweats in here, the dusty man, and him winning. Somehow, he's the superstar of the show. Troy Terry, Jay Beagle. That was a big, that was a big, I don't know.

What were your thoughts on Jay Beagle laying waste to Troy Terry? five minutes left in a five nothing game and you're going in and touching the goalie like to me that's like oh man you're just asking for it now did he cross the line with thrown like i don't know it didn't last that long and did he take a bad punch 100% and but i mean at the same time too you got to understand what you're going into right like i mean hot dog in it a little bit, right? Like, I don't know. You can see it happen at noon hour hockey.

Never mind at the pro level, right? If the one team gets up by quite a bit versus the other else, then the sticks get a little more active and everybody's a little more, right? Because it happens. I loved what Louis DeBras said. And I'll apologize to Louis right now because I'm paraphrasing him. But he said, understand when he first started, he was told by one of the old veteran tough guys.

somebody goes in and wraps their hands around you like that's your job and he said j beagle's only ever fought eight or nine times in his career this isn't something that j beagle's known for but he went in there they're getting beat five nothing by some kids that are hot dog in it so he gives him a shot and Troy terry's going to come in and wrap him up and the guy told louis you wraps him up you you you make sure you do what you do and so j beagle had enough and he turned around and got in a fight with them and I think Terry just didn't realize what was coming and what Louis said is probably a very good lesson for them young guys they're young guys right they're going to learn a lesson it's not the end of the world they're going to come back okay you're up five nothing boys maybe we're

just you know a little bit backed off understand if you're going to go and wrap somebody up you better be ready lots of times they won't but you better be ready if he turns around that you're going right so I thought that was interesting what Louis said there I got no comment go ahead really Dustin's never wrapped up anybody in his life I just I just I like I just I like I liked how... They're wrapped up once or twice. I like how they all freaked out, right? Like the ducks were calling for Beagle's head and the, you know,

and a bunch of the guys that, you know, that I fall on in hockey were always a terrible move by Beagle. And it's just such a, like... I saw highlights from back in the Colorado, Detroit days, one of the fights they had. And I was like, yeah. Everybody saw it. Now, one of my favorite stories comes from Sean when he's playing junior. and the second last game of the season, before they play the team,

they know they're going to play in the playoffs. Scriber. It was four games before the end. We had four games plus. Tell the story. Well, four games before we play Scriber in the first round, and they were a good team. Larry sends out, I was out at the time with his shoulder injury. It was one of the few times I got injured.

You still wouldn't have been on that starting last. I wouldn't have been on start, but it didn't matter. Like eight guys fought that, like by the end of the game. Anyways. But how to start? So Larry tells the boys that we're going to send them a message for playoffs. the last time we planned before playoffs.

So I'm sitting there videotaping the game, and they drop the puck, and the puck does not move. And you can tell scribers, like, what the heck's going on? Their top line started are a goon line. But boys were ready. Anyway, so the puck doesn't move. You can just see it. Anyway, so five guys brawl, and a couple guys chase a couple guys down.

Down it goes. And Larry gets booted. He gets suspended for the rest of the season until playoff. all of our guys get suspended, whatever. We end up winning the game, and we walked Scriber in the first round four games to none. And Dale Logel, wherever you're at, he fought, he was my size, and he fought a guy in the second period who was like six foot four and worked him over. Like we just, Larry's team was built tough.

And it's one of the reasons I'm doing. So how did you get on the team? Well, Sean is the toughest. Hey, I tell you what, the first year I went down to Ontario, I fought. probably four or five times. I had no problem, Larry. Was mum in the stands for those? Yeah, she flew down the one time to... There's another story there.

She was disappointed in, Sean. She flew down to T-Bay. We were playing the... Whoever, who cares? We're playing whoever in Thunder Bay. She flies down the first game I get ejected in the first period for fighting. And the next game, I get ejected again

in the first period for fighting. So, yes, I did do my fair share... She flew down and seen less than a period of hockey. Pretty much. So the truth of the matter is, I'm not a great fighter, back then to prove that that's the way hockey was back then if if you wanted to get on the team especially larry's teams you had to you had to be willing to drop the mitts you had to be able

to stick up for your teammates and so when you know like you know we joke about noon hour but like when you're getting throttled literally that's my first thought my head it's like I should just stick somebody and be over with us like let's just go and yeah sure I won't win it but I mean half the time you take one punch you throw one punch and you both fall over and that's what it is But it's just like, enough's enough. And with Anaheim and Jay Beagle and everything, it's like, everybody can bleed a heart for tri-tery. But like at the end of the day, you got to know who's on the ice. And you got to know what you're walking into.

And sometimes, you know, like the NHL can want to portray it that we're not this type of league, but that's what hockey is. I think that's a lot of different sports and different things that people want to act like intimidation doesn't matter. But it matters. And it's there. And you can talk all you want that we're going to push it out of our sport. And I don't care if it's basketball or football or anything where people are coming together. I don't care if it's men's or women's. I don't care if it's kids.

You can act like it doesn't matter. It matters. And it's there. And the people in the stands may not understand it. And the people that are sitting there commentating on it. But I've seen it at house girls hockey. And I've seen it at junior hockey. And you see it in the pros.

And it doesn't matter. It's there. New Zealand, the Haka for rugby, right? I mean, that was part of their lore back through their heydays

of rugby. It's still cool to watch. People still watch it, right? I came back to when they actually fought wars back in the day. It was to intimidate the other army or whatever. But it really worked well for me

when everybody was young. Intimidation is... Kind of lost that factor. Well, did you see, speaking on the NHL and strange things, the Patrick Maroon, Wayne Simmons thing? I didn't see that.

No, I didn't. They both got, I don't know, sportsman likes for... And booted out of the game, right? No, just, I don't think they got booted. It was right at the start of the game. They got a sportsman likes for beaking or whatever, right? For just trash talking on the bench. And you're like, that's been the NHL for 100 years.

Like, that's the new number hockey league. That's what you do. I mean... Sammy wouldn't be able to play anymore. You probably get booted out of the world. because he wouldn't be quite in the stands either. What do you think of? Switch into a couple of different things around the sporting world.

Men's soccer, qualifying for World Cup. First time ever? No, first time since 1986. Six, yeah. It's a great story, right? And you think with the immigration we've had into Canada and the youth, I mean, there's a lot of soccer fans. And it's got to be great for everybody to have, I mean, it's only 32 teams.

make that tournament across the world. It's biggest sport in the world. It's a pretty big feat for the boys. Do they win some games? Oh, I was listening to an expert on that. He says it's going to be tough. But you know what? They've also come in.

I think that they could win one. Maybe they tie another one, and that might be enough. That might be enough to get them into pass around around. Yeah, I think so. I think. Well, because it's too much not until this fall. Davies?

Oh, yeah. It's what? It's a way. I think that hits back in November, because he's one of the best players in the world. That's in the Middle East, so it gets too hot out, so they couldn't hold it in the summer, so it's in the fall. True story. They hosted it in the desert. So they're with Belgium, Morocco.

Imagine being on that Canadian team. Like, that is being an underdog. Yeah, well, yeah. Like, but you're on, I mean, you already said it. I think in the world, soccer is the biggest sport, like, whether I, you know, for all of us in here, we, you know, the NHL, the playoffs, Olympics, you know, the world juniors, that type of thing. ranks right up there, but the World Cup of Soccer is worldwide, and you are a team that is expected, you know, you're lower than the lowest ranking in March Madness, I would say, of where people think you're going to go. How about their coach? He took the women's national

team all the way to the finals, comes, brings a men's team that hasn't made it since the 86 and now taking them in, right? Coaches make a difference, hey, Dust? It's true. Pretty sure that him on ahead and won a champion. championship in 30-some years before I got coaching. Jay's got to bring up the NeverSwitz. Dust has got to bring up the Saskalto. Harles, you want to bring up something? Can you remember that championship?

No, because the problem is, was Harley there? That's the only question I got. Take a look at the picture right behind you, Jase. Tell me, am I in that picture? Are you in this one? No, I'm not. I think a slew foot took him out of that one. Hardest hit I ever seen Arly throw, though, was the shift after the slu foot.

He doesn't remember. You know, a good coach. A good coach. I would have realized that he was in La La Land and wouldn't put them back out there. So what you're saying, this is all your fault. It's true. My one question for you, Sean is, so if it was the, let's say it was the guys in the Olympics, we would be going to, like, you know, one of the local pubs and having a beer and watching the game.

I bet you that that team, them games, will be, there'll be more people in Canada to watch that than the Canadian Olympic team. Maybe I'm a little far off on that, but I bet you there's a lot. Are you going to go watch it? Yeah, yeah. Sit around and drink beer and watch a game, sure. It doesn't matter the sport. If it's playoffs, it's good.

Like when something's on the line, you want to watch it. And so for Canada, we don't have, you know, like this doesn't happen all the time. World Cup isn't, you know, like years away, right? And so A and then B, I mean, we're never there. So, yeah, you're going to watch it. You're probably going to get together. It's going to be no different than, you know, soccer and basketball fans will laugh at me. But, like, when the Raptors were in the playoffs and Kobe somewhere is chuckling because we brought up the Raptors.

And I, like, they clinched the playoffs. It's like a token Mike Croft. I know, right? Like, fuck. Anyways, they're in the top, they're in the top six and Colby's going to go, man, if they had one superstar, they'd have a shot. But they don't have the superstar. So whatever. But when they're in the, when they're in meaningful games, it's fun to watch the Raptors.

It's fun to watch Blue Jays because in Canada, we don't have, you know, you know, you know, But doesn't Canada have kind of an up-and-coming superstore on the team? Yeah, Davies, right? He was the best in the world. Well, he was the MVP of the... But you catch my point. You're asking him to watch. Well, when the Raptors make the playoffs, yeah, I'm going to watch.

When the Blue Jays are in the playoffs, yeah, you're going to watch. The thing about the World Cup, too, is it doesn't happen every year, right? That's right. So, yeah, I think it'll be fun. The thing about a short tournament like that, too, is all you need to do is get on a roll, have a hot goalie? Where you go? You know, my question speaking of which is, does Mike,

Crawford, now, he wins the draft. Like he won two things this year, right? Well, and he won two things. Like, does he ever win again? Or did he blow all his wad in one year? So for the listeners, we've been doing the, the Dawn's Cup hockey draft, a family draft for since I think 2006, right? Something like that.

And Mike Crawford is the but of all. Well, he's a legend. Until he won last year. Yeah. But I'm just curious to see if that's a one-off or if it actually. The sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while. always. Well, as me and Kobe keeps saying, well, I guess now I've got to take it seriously again, right?

Like, you know, until Crawford one, I was like, yeah, whatever, I'll just roll it and, you know, right? Make our picks, hey? No big deal. Crawford will for a second if it does well. Anyone's surprising here, Tom Brady's coming back. Yeah, I am actually. Because I go, and I guess I just don't understand that side of the world very well. What was the point then?

So what happened? Like, was it because he's injured or is this just a publicity stunt? Is he hoping to make another billion dollars from home with his wife and went, you know, maybe I should just play football. Actually, it's funny. I was walking through the store today. And Tom and Giselle having marital problems is on one of the front pages. So I don't know, maybe that's going to say it. But that's what I mean.

Like, look at the, is it a publicity thing or is it literally he went home and went, I'm actually not ready to sit upstairs and be a assistant VP or whatever he would turn into, right? Yes. I have no idea. Like, I was surprised because I thought, hey, this is a guy. that this isn't a 35-year-old guy. This guy's, what, going to be 45 this year or something? I thought when he came out and, okay, he's going on. I get it.

Well, in one of these years it's going to happen where he's not going to be able to perform anymore. Like, it's coming and it's getting closer and you don't know when that time's going to happen. And if he left now, he still went out on top. So do you sign him to a two-year deal? Nothing? No? Okay.

Who would you, out of the brothers, if you could appoint one guy to be, be the Oilers GM. Who would you want to see? Me. I know Dustin would pat himself on the back. I would say actually not Dustin. And the reason I say that is he's the one out of the four of us that sit here and come up with all the problems, but he's got no solutions.

We got to get rid of the goaltending. Well, who are you going to get? I don't know, but we got to get rid of him. Like, it would be just an absolute crap show with him running the team. He'd blow out all his picks. We'd have nothing going on. Great team. He'd have the wrong coach in place.

Like, it would just be unbelievable. I think J'd be a good GM. I really would. I think Sean's too hot and I don't think he's methodical enough so I don't think he'd be a good Sean would be a good coach probably and Harley would be a good stick boy

I think it'd be a terrible coach I don't know I think if I was looking I think if we had the four of us here we'd have Dustin coaching I think you could have Sean in charge of all of your media and all of your sales and everything you know what I had Harley maybe out there scouting

no You know what I want to do? I don't want to do anything. I don't want to meet you. Maybe player development show? I want, I want, I want alumni. That's what I want.

There you go. I want to bring in the old boys. I think you'd be good at that. I think that'd be fantastic. You want to drive around with Mark or Marty McSorley and just hear stories all the time. Yep. Well, if I'm ever the GM, Sean, I'm hiring you for alumni. All right.

Let's move into predictions. Predictions. Playoff predictions. I want your two teams out of the east and the west. Two? Yeah, they're making the conference finals That's right And by the way, if you have none

Then you're buying the bottle And if all of us have none We'll have four bottles here This is this is Because someone forgot to bring on Someone sitting here with water and coffee Want of four to make the finals? No, no

We're going to pick four teams And you're going to make the semi-final The semi-final conference finals The person who gets none Or the lowest amount Bies the bottle for the next round If someone picks three teams out of the east I'm going to lose my mind

Harley Here's what's sitting in the west Okay Colorado, obviously, in first, well, we'll go with the Central. Colorado, Minnesota, St. Louis, and you got Calgary, Eminton's sitting in number two right now,

Los Angeles, and then in the wild cards, you got Nashville, Dallas. On the other side, the eight are pretty much locked, are they not? You got Carolina, New York, Rangers, Pittsburgh, Florida, Toronto, Tampa Bay, Boston, and Washington. Hmm.

You want me to go, or? Go ahead, Dust. You want me to do all four? Just go to the east first. I'll go to these first. Sure. I'll go Carolina and Boston. Just because?

Like jersey colors? You know what? I've been on Carolina's bandwagon for about four or five years now, and I like their team. So this is one of them things live or die. No, for sure. Like you're just going to Carolina until they get there. No, no. Well, it's kind of like one day I'm going to be right.

It's kind of like Sean picking the Oilers. What's funny about Carolina is I've actually done well in some hockey drafts because they always go far. They haven't made it to the finals yet. Yeah. So that's the challenge with them. and I think they're awfully close. And the Bruins, I look at their forward lineup, I think they're fantastic.

D is just a little bit weaker, but still good. I like the Bruins. Carl's? I'm going to go Tampa Pittsburgh. Oh, guy. You guys think of a say about that? Obviously, Tampa Bay is good all the way around. All the way around.

And it's kind of like, I look at it, kind of like a Chicago, right? until they're not good, you can't ever count them out, right? I don't care whether, as long as they're making playoffs, it's hard to count a team like that out. I still look at them from top to bottom.

Is there a bullpenny as good at the Oilers, though? Pretty close, I think. I'm going to go Toronto in Pittsburgh. Toronto? Well, I just feel like Toronto's one of them teams. I was thinking Tampa Bay, but the thing I like about sometimes, about a team like Toronto is it's people start to go

wow they're not ever going to do it but they're San Jose went right and they had they've had some years now that have been disappointing for them and if you look at their lineup you can't name as many guys on there but that's not necessarily a bad thing they got a good team still right yeah and so I don't know that's where I'm going I'm going tougher's toughest division in the league I look you know you you might be right with Carolina dust because they've kind of been a little bit

like that too Pittsburgh maybe just one more last last last gasp to maybe get all of a sudden a little farther than you think. You know, Carolina's still young. Rangers still young. Could use a lesson. Wow, the Rangers. Think about Carolinas. They've actually been there a couple times.

Rangers are young because they haven't been there for at all. Speaking of teams in the last row, this might be one of Pittsburgh's. Like, they're starting to get up there, right? Florida. Florida. And the New York Rangers. Oh, that's good. You know why?

Because Sean's bringing the bottle next time. Good pick, Sean. is our, you wait until my West picks. So, you know, Florida's 104 points. Yeah, Florida's an interesting, interesting team. Florida's 104 points are missing her number 1D. They still haven't got their goaltending figured out, but they're a juggernaut.

That just feels ripe to have someone beat them. In the West. And before anyone starts, I'm going to go Colorado and the Emmett's Noilers. There you go. Oh, you get to go first this time. Yeah, I do. Colorado and the Emmerton Oilers, eh? You know, I'm going to side with Darrell Sutter.

I think the goaltending is great there. I think you got a great coach there. And, geez, I hate, you know, you hate going number one. Someday I'm going to be proven right with the Emmington Oilers. I don't know. You know, I just think Fleury's got something to prove. I think Mike Smith is going to take him to the promise land.

I'm going to go Calgary, Minnesota. Or maybe Smith and Koskin and both get hurt, and Skinner comes in and just steals the show. You know what the best thing the others could do is have nurses. walk in and just blast one at like i don't know the grain of mike smith or something or the head just knock him out have skinner walk in guys do you guys do realize that the guys like smith no no they like playing for you know what's funny about smith is i actually really like smith when we had owen on the bench for the oilers during war on him up the one guy we came and talked to him mike smith well you sure wouldn't

know it by how you talk about it just i don't care about i wonder what you say about me when i'm not or out can he play net that's all he care about dust go ahead no go ahead head okay well uh i'll go flames and predators uh i think the pacific the oilers aren't quite there yet goal-tending is a big issue and uh i like the preds well i kind of am a partial to colorado i meant to myself but i'll go call Colorado Calgary because i think uh they're going to be why i was tough one eight halls uh Calgary's in first Colorado's in first that's yep yep who'd you go to Toronto in Pittsburgh or Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh at least them two third place teams oh well

Consistent. I was going to go Colorado, Eminton, and Sean picked them. I didn't want to be the same. He's got that Calgary team going. You know, it's interesting. So between the four of us, we're all saying Calgary or Emmetons. So we haven't done this one in a while, and I'm kind of taken over. What would that be a while, day?

Sean's show. That could be a second round, man. The second round. Yeah. Wouldn't that be fun? That'd be the funnest thing to happen in Canada in a long time. Who's the, we did this once in a time. I'm going to add this to this show, even though it's not my show, is just taking over

Sean, show for him. The DNP. So who's the next Canadian team to win the cup? I think the last time we did this. Yeah, I think I picked a win a pick. I think you did. Holy man, that Jets are crashing. I think I picked Toronto.

And I think Sean went Emmetton. Oh, yeah. I think Harley went Eminton. Is everyone still sticking with their team, Jay? Well, for sure. Shevoldeos is going to have a good offseason here. We're going to make some moves. I'll stay with Toronto.

Yeah, well, I mean, it would be awesome for me to change my pick, but you know what? You've got to have long-term faith. 2036. Is this going to be like a Carolina? I'm surprised you didn't pick Winnipeg to make playoffs here, Jay. Do you realize the last, when was the last time the Canadian team won the cup? Do you know? There's the Montreal.

The 1993, Montreal Canadian. Your team missing the playoffs for one year does not mean that it's the end of the world. It's the end of the world. Like, how many years ago is that? That's 30 years. Although I am picking. Although I am, I shouldn't be telling you guys this. because this is draft secrets, or am I playing you guys?

But I am thinking Toronto could, has a real good shot at making the finals this year. It's been 29 years since a Canadian team won. Can you imagine if the Toronto Maple Leafs make the finals? This country will explode. One way or another, there will be civil war at all the Leafs fans. You imagine if it was honestly if it was either Toronto, Colorado, or Toronto, Eminton? What kind of final that would be? No, wild.

Even Calgary. No, but yeah, I guess. But I mean, McDaniel. Harley, Sean, you guys stick him with Eminton? Yeah, yeah, no, I'm... What are they going to do? I've been tooting the horn of the Emmonson Oilers now for three straight years on this bloody thing. They have let me down every single year, so maybe I should start cheering for Calgary just so the Oilers can go win something.

But, no, I'm going to stick with the Oilers. I don't know. At some point, you can't have all this talent, and I know there's holes. God knows there's holes. But I just feel like, you know, there's got to be a way they, you know, they catch a living in a bottle. But you're not wrong, especially going to the finals. How many teams have you seen in the past? where nobody ever thought Montreal Canaan's last year.

Kerry Price finds his old self. Shea Weber is the captain of the ground. The only thing we're missing is we're missing Shea Weber. Like, I mean, I'd feel a little better if we had a headman sitting there juggernodding 30-some minutes of the game. Playoffs are funny things. It is, isn't it? The team gets on a roll and all of a sudden, boom, they're in the final. And injury is nothing else.

How does, if Colorado, the game one of the playoffs, McKinnon goes down, right? Because he's been injury prone. Landisog's been injured somewhat this year. does that change your opinion about Colorado? You know what I mean? No, they still got cadre. Yeah, but he'll be booted out game three. It's just, it's interesting.

Well, what happened to the dry-sadles injuries bigger than you think? Does it change your opinion about the Oilers if they go into game two of the playoffs and dry-sidels out again? Because they were mostly healthy before that. Well, hey, this goes across everything. It doesn't matter if we're talking about the NHL or not. If you aren't healthy, I mean, guys are going to have Knicks and Burr. roses and everything, especially in the NHL, because that's the way it is. But if you lose players along the way, even depth players, that can hurt your chances of winning

a cup. 100%. That can hurt your chance. Like, look at when the Raptors win their championship. Hence the reason. What's his pick goes down after he comes back? And if he, what's the tall, what's the guy? What's the tall guy on the Raptors?

No, you just asked? No, playing for Golden State. Basketball player, tall guy? Golden State. Now he's Brooklyn. He's born in the best players all time. When the Raptors won the championship. Oh, and he was playing for Golden State at the time.

And he came back, right? And then he got hurt. Kobe's losing his mind right now. Durant. Durant, thank you. If Durant stays playing the Rafters, do the Rafters? I don't know. Remember he went down and the Rafts fans cheered?

Just classy. We won our championship, right? Absolutely. But I'm just saying, like, if you stay healthy and all sudden Colorado loses Macar and McKinnon, that's a big difference. Do you remember the time of call? The only team in the last little bit that's been able, well, no, I shouldn't say that. But Tampa Bay was a good.

Right, Stamcoast. Stamcoast. Stamcoast wasn't there. And he played like one shift, scores a goal and then leaves again. And you're like, oh my God. Tampa Bay's got to be a tough out.

Do you remember, oh yeah? Do you remember back in the 90s when Colorado had the juggernaut and Forzburg was out and they still kept winning in the playoffs without them? That's when you know you've got a great team. Yeah. And I might just change my pick to Tampa Bay because of that. Because you're right,

Stamcoast was out and they won. That's because they're like. That's because they're that good. Yeah, they're good. Yeah, they're good. And the old saying is, is nobody else, you know, you got to knock them off before you can.

You can talk about Toronto or anybody else all you want. So this is what I go back to. All Tampa Bay is done. They're the champs. This is what I go back to a GM. They didn't sign Mike Smith the two years. Fair enough. Coaching still plays a part, though, doesn't it?

Sure does. Sure helps when you get some good players, though. Mm. Yeah. Okay. So the final segment here is the final five brought to you by Crudmaster. Now, what we used to do is you do five questions. We go around, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's five minutes. Five minutes timer goes off. Five minutes for us? Like we're going to get through one question? I don't know. Jason's going to talk for four and a half minutes. Well, I'll start the timer and we'll see where it goes. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald for support of the podcast since the very beginning.

Now, the question I want to start with, it's a shameless plug, but Prophet River is having their soft opening tomorrow, Saturday, April 9th. Anyways. Great, great new location. Great new location, yes. I was wondering if we were rolling in to grab a gun to go shoot some gophers, what gun are you picking up? I just bought one from there. Did you?

I just bought a Ruger 1022, open sites. Wow. Ten shot clip. It sounds impressive. Like, I don't even know what it is, but it sounds good. It looks like a freaking... Can't go wrong with the Ruger 1022. All I'm going to say is Dost made a mistake, though, going with the iron sights and not

scoping it up. You know what? I went with the open sites because I'm teaching. my son how to shoot gophers? You go scope? 100%. Oh, I don't like the scope. I'm an open set.

Unless you're six feet away from that gopher. You know what? I want to teach my son how to shoot open sites and then eventually get him into a scope. Plus, I mean, open sites was like World War I sniper stuff, eh? Yes. Like, it's really cool. Both action, 10 clip. 100%.

Like, I'm old school guy with that. Prophet River is great. I don't hit a lot of golfers, so maybe I could get better open sites. The only thing better than shooting a gopher is running it over. For sure on the road. If you can like veer off and catch it before it runs in the ditch. Does that say something about his mental? Oh, that's great.

Great. Animal cruelty. Anyways. Are you, uh, oh man, I'm like losing it right now. Uh, bolt action, whole way. Thank you. You're bolt action. Thank you. I'm like doing the emotion.

I can't spit it out. Pump? Yeah. No, I'm a bolt action. Bolt. Bolt. Bolt action, 22, open sites. I'm surprised nobody said shotgun and I just want to roll.

up and just blow them a shotgun for a gopher? Remember the time that our cousin Carey's over? Miles will bring it 270 and go shooting. This is a great story. Does anyone remember the time that Carrie was at her grandma and grandpa's and there was a rabbit in the front yard and grandma and grandpa didn't want rabbits in the front yard and grandpa

brought out the shotgun and shot the rabbit and Kerry lost her mind. Well, Bugs Bunny. And there was nothing left of the rabbit because he shot it from like 20 feet away of the shotgun. He was just demolished. My girl says, we shoot deer, we don't shoot bunnies. So dust should be pretty upset to be hearing that story right now. What are you guys paying attention to right now?

We got a little bit of time. Two minutes, 30 seconds. I mean, obviously you go away from sports, you've got Ukraine, Russia, and all that stuff. But it could be sports, it could be everything. I mean, the L.A. Kings is, by the time this air, they'll play. That's a big game for the Oilers. but is there other things going on that you're paying attention to, you know, a bunch of business owners sitting here,

is there something in life that is catching your eye? Oil prices. Nothing but good, baby. I just get worried with the oil prices, though, because it's the same old thing. If we could hold them between 80 and 110 for the next five years, that'd be great. But, you know, they go so high and then, you know,

there's a lot of struggles going on in the world right now. Worry about the supply chain side of things, right? being business owner, just even getting parts in, right? Not even to do with the oil side or nothing like that, right? I was in factory sports the other day, and they had a sock tape shortage. You couldn't get a roll of sock tape. Like, weird. Yeah.

It's everything. It doesn't matter where you go. Then we got to the rank of John wanted to use my sock tape, and I'm like, no. There's a shortage. Have you heard there's a shortage? Screw you. Give me some sock tape.

Me and Dust almost didn't go to the rain. We almost didn't leave together after that. You know, it reminds me. Speaking of which, that's telling me I'm not sent besides Sean at the 12-hour hockey team. No, no. You know what that tells me is we're going to go back to old school. Remember the old school guys had the little straps they put around? Velcro straps.

That's what's going to be the next in thing. Yeah. Speaking of which, with all the gas prices, everything skyrocketing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's one of the things is going to come back in to, to like use. You know, like people talk with natural gas propane

you get the wood fire that way you don't have to worry about heating costs stuff like that. What's going to come back? The rappers from the mandarin oranges is his toilet paper?

Hopefully we do not get back to that. That used to be, what did they say? The old timers used to love Mandarin oranges because they could use it as toilet paper because back then they didn't have it.

You got 30 seconds. Is there anything you think will come back? That makes sense. Manner and orange toilet paper doesn't make sense. Although they did talk about that. Yes, true.

Bernard and Mona Payne. They talked about it. Oh, and you should have subtwinkle in their eye when they were talking about it. It was awesome. Does canned fruit come back with all the shipping problems? Dad talked about when he was young that the stores would actually run out of fresh fruit for a couple months in the winter. Frozen vegetables, maybe? Well, you got frozen fruit, frozen vegetables.

Yeah. Can't have a cellar again. Yeah, I could see a cellar coming back. Not for anybody obviously in town, but outside. well boys that marks the end appreciate you all hopping in and doing this again it's been a lot of fun hopefully the oilers don't sewer me this year I'd really you know whatever if I got a bug the ball

love you love you Mike Smith yeah Mike Smith's gonna be he's gonna be dynamite who starts in the net for the Oilers when playoffs Mike Smith unless he's hurt Mike Smith's the guy Mike Smith's the guy Mike Smith's the guy yeah Skinner Skinner hopefully

all right boys thanks again hey guys thanks for tuning in today make sure you like and subscribe hopefully you leave a review believe me it does help if you want to support the podcast i do have a patreon account i mentioned at the start you can tell me to fly a kite either way it doesn't really matter i do appreciate all the support you guys have given me along the way uh you can find the patreon account in the show notes i'm working on uh an SMP presents. Obviously, I did that back here in March. I'm looking at doing another one. I'm lining up some guests to speak. And as soon as I have details on that, I'll be releasing that as well, so everybody can pay attention. I know it was greatly received the first time around,

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