Shaun Newman Podcast - #259 - Joseph Bourgault & Theo Fleury

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

Joseph Bourgault is an official candidate for the leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada & Theo Fleury a Stanley Cup winner, olympic gold medalist & mental health advocate. We discuss Josephs decision to run, Theo's decision to support and the competition Joseph will face across Canada in the leadership race.  Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500 Support here:⁠ https://www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast

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and now an official candidate in the leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada. The other, a Stanley Cup winner, Olympic gold medalist, and a strong advocate for mental well-being. I'm talking about Joseph Borgoe and Theo Fleury. So buckle up, here we go. Hello, this is Joseph Borgo

and welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Joseph Borgow and Theo Flurry And first off, I just want to say thank you for hopping in the studio and coming to do this It's a treat to sit in the same room instead of virtually with so many people that's been a lot of our life for the last two years So I guess first thanks for coming in for the listener They know Theo you've grace the podcast multiple times I don't think we need too much of an introduction

But Joseph this is your first time on the podcast So I thought maybe we'd start with a little bit about your background, just a little bit of who you are, so they get a feel for who they're listening to. Okay, well, thanks for having us, Sean. Really appreciate it. And thanks also for what you did in Ottawa

and all that you've been doing over the last two and a half years to stand up for freedom and interview all the people that you've interviewed, all the great people that you've had here, standing up for freedom for our country, standing up for truth. And so I want to,

to thank you for all of that. Well, I appreciate that. That comes with a lot of support from the listeners, from people such as yourselves, you know, it wasn't, I think for all of us, we can agree that over the last two years, if you didn't surround yourself with some pretty strong people that had your best interest at heart, it was a rough two years. It was a rough two years even with those people around you. Yeah. So I appreciate the kind words, but I mean, now you're taking on a daunting task, one which I didn't even realize, you know, I was joking about this on the ad reads a week or two ago because obviously Borgo Chilligan Tools is sponsoring the podcast. And I had to remind the listeners, I'm like, I want to be very clear.

I had no idea Joseph was going to run for federal conservative leadership. I had zero idea, but here you sit. But before we get to that, let's give the listener a little bit about Joseph Borgo. Okay. Well, I'm like Flurry, I'm a small town prairie guy. I just the only thing that's unlike I did unlike Theo I didn't become a superstar in hockey but grew up with the same work ethic grew up in St. Bruce Saskatchewan the home of well the home of Borgo Tillage Tools F.P. Borgo Tillage Tools and Borgo Industries

dry air free-form plastics assy industries so it grew up up in that town and it was a fantastic community to grow up in. It was basically a Roman Catholic community. So and but there were many predominantly French, French Canadian, or Canadian French, but also many other nationalities in the community. So it was a mixing pot already. And now it's really a melting pot. We've got people from all over the world because of all the jobs there. we've got people from all over the world all over the world there uh i was blessed i grew up with frank francois pierre borgbe frang philoborgos uh frank p borgue is my father and terese coquet bogot trace borgle as my mother and they were just fantastic role models i if i could

ask god anything different in my parents uh there would have been nothing you know i had my dad was like God on earth in terms of being just a such a solid role model for me. Always honest, brilliant, you know, always in pursuit of truth, always standing up for what was right, you know. He was a big guy, six foot two, great sense of humor, but he was, boy, there was, if you were picking on little guys around Frank Borgle, a big mistake. And, and mother was like that as well. Both leaders in the community, you know, they were in their leisure time. They were dad, worked on building our first covered skating rink. I was telling Theo, I grew up.

I was five years old on an outdoor rink, learned with white women's skates, how to skate. And dad, in 64, 65, worked with everybody in the community to build our first covered rank. And I could go on and on about the amount of effort dad put in. But dad love, mom and dad both loved our community. So Jerry, Rita, Claude, and I, my siblings, we grew up around that, and we gained the love of community ourselves as well. And so, I mean, if you look at St. Brew, what it is today, one of the highest per capita income communities in all of Canada for the past 20 years or more, you know, with next to zero unemployment, next to zero crime. And, you know, nobody on no welfare there. You know, everybody's employed.

If you just happen to drive by the community and you're unemployed, it's like a vacuum cleaner. You're sucked into the workforce there, you know. So, yeah, so that's kind of in a nutshell, the environment I grew up in. Yeah, one of the, you know, fast forwarding a little bit, I think of how many times we've bumped into each other over a course of, I don't know what it's been, maybe two years. It feels like two years, maybe it's a little less than that, but you kind of get the idea. One of the things that really, really impressed me about yourself and your team over at Borgo, Tilligan Tools, was your approach to COVID-19. It was the first time I went, gee, that just, it just, like, take all the fear out of it and give the work,

because the fear was just raging rampant. But I'll let you tell the story a little bit about how you guys approached it, because I thought, well, I think we all think now, like that's what was missing from all of society, not just, not Canada, like from everywhere. It was fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. And that had its effects, and we saw them firsthand. But here's this company in St. Bruce, Saskatchewan doing it a little different. And the first time I heard that story and then witnessed it while I was down there.

I was like, gee, this is interesting. Like, where was this? Why wasn't anyone taking notice of this? Well, thank you for that, Sean. I appreciate, you know, your insight on that, that you recognize that. Ryan and I, Ryan Olson, the general manager, who's also the campaign manager, we knew that according to our vision, mission, core values and principles in our company,

we knew that it was important to gather the factual, we set the goal of truth in January of 2020, and we were gathering the facts, and we started doing newsletters about in March to report every day the facts, as we understood it, so that we could put into perspective, because what the media was doing, they were putting the fear of, you know, of death, basically, not the fear of God, the fear of death into everybody.

You know, they were exaggerating the deaths and, you know, that if you just breathe this thing in, you're going to die, you know. And so we were observing that there was panic in our company. I'd never seen that in my lifetime, people panicking like that. It's almost like there's a fire raging, and people are trying to get out of the theater, you know. And we had people wanting to try to shut our own employees, wanting to shut our company down,

because if we were together somehow, you know, that everybody was going to die. It just didn't make any sense. It wasn't rational. And, you know, with leadership skill, one of the things you learned from 40 plus years of executive leadership skill is the number one rule in a crisis situation is to stay calm and cool. and really to set the goal of truth

and with an open mind to gather the facts as impartially as accurately as you can. And you report that to people, the good, the bad, and the ugly. And so we started providing people with daily statistics, you know, to put it into clear perspective what your risk of death was.

So that's one really important thing. We could see that under 70 years of age, your risk of death if you got this virus was, you know, really, effectively zero. And especially if you had, because of my history, having recovered from a life threatening illness and having studied natural health and healing for 30 years, owned a health food store from 1995 that I opened the Lifewise Health Center in St. Brew up until 2015. And then I gave my share to one of my former partners. And so we had the solutions. Right away, we knew how to prevent

and treat COVID-19. We had immunophase and bronco-phase on the shelves that had prevented and treated the H-1N-1 virus. And we also, by April, thanks to Dr. Joseph Marcola, he published a really important article on April 27th about quercetin. And so I invite people to go to that, go and dig up that article that he wrote,

explaining that quercetin does the same thing as ivermectin. it acts as an ionifer to shuttle the zinc into your cells. You take it with zinc, about 30 milligrams of zinc a day. When you have it, it would be twice a day. If you had COVID to prevent it even once or twice a week, taking quercetin and zinc and vitamin D. And with that, you can prevent viral infection because what the zinc does is it interferes with our polymerase enzymes,

which viruses require to replicate. So we were sharing that information with our staff. But as a principled organization, we also understood that it's not for us to judge or to condemn in any way what people, how people choose to protect their health. One of the highest laws of life is the law of free will. God has given everybody a free will to choose, to make their own decisions. And so it's not for us to ever interfere with that. And so, you know, we're very mindful of the Canadian Charter Rights and Freedoms, whereas Canada was founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law.

So we have all of us as Canadians and anybody in the world that believes that God gives us free will, we have no right to interfere with other people's free will unless they are doing something that would be harmful to others, like a violation, like we see happening. we have a right to interfere with what our federal government is doing because they're violating people's rights and freedoms. So we have a duty to stand up for what is true and to interfere what these federal governments, what the federal government has been doing to violate,

you know, really even in violation of criminal law, you know, Section 3461 extortion, forcing people to make medical decisions that can kill them or injure them. So, yeah. You just go back to Dr. Francis Christian, you know, informed consent, things like that. I mean, at what point, you know, Theo, I got bumped into Joseph relatively early. I mean, you were literally in Lloyd.

That was the first time I ever met you. That was, geez, I can't remember how long ago that was now. It feels like two years, maybe it was only a year. When did you stumble across Joseph? Was it when he announces or is it before that? It was before, yeah. He was on his way to Ottawa. and, you know, Josh suggested to Joe that maybe Joe should give me a call.

And so we started the conversation, and then Joe asked if I would join him on the campaign trail. And, you know, after listening to his ideas and his policies and all that, I was like, you know what, this guy aligns with me, you know, pretty closely in what we're doing here. and I knew that I could help Joe on social media. You know, my Twitter account, you know, I think two days ago, past 200,000 followers. So, you know, we've done a really good job of, you know, showcasing Joe as much as we can on my social media. And it's really worked.

And a lot of people, you know, know who Joe is now. But, you know, like I said earlier, you know, Joe is a very principled guy. He's a very honest guy. He's a God-first guy. And, you know, I know from my own experience that if I didn't find something greater than myself that could restore me to sanity, you know, I probably wouldn't be here. And throughout this whole, you know, planemic, they've tried really, really hard to take God out of the conversation in school

and, you know, in everybody's life. And I just know how important my relationship with God has been, you know, in this comeback in life. And so I think when you believe nothing is impossible, you know, and as you can see, you know, we are stepping into an incredible opportunity now that we've raised the money, we've gotten the signatures. You know, now we're really stepping into the race. And, you know, I feel my competitive.

of juices flowing again, which is, you know, which is, which is awesome because, you know, it gives me a reason to get out of bed every morning, gives me a reason to, you know, rub my feet on the ground, connect to Mother Earth, and I really have a new purpose. And that's to get this country back to where, to where, you know, we should be. You know, we've underachieved so poorly in the life. last seven years that I see a real opportunity to not only get out of this, but probably become the greatest country on the planet if we can do what Joe thinks he can do or he's going to do. I'm excited about that.

And to be a part of that would be probably the greatest accomplishment of my life would be to be a part of, you know, getting our country back on track and, you know, creating a very healthy and wealthy Canada again because I think, you know, there's so much potential in this country. There's, and we have to get back to, you know, I say this all the time, you know, when I was going through a slump in hockey, what did I do? I went back to the basics, right? Well, this is the same thing. We got to get back to the basics. What is, what does it mean to be Canadian? Well, it means hard work. Well, God first, then hard work. Then, you know, loving and caring for thy neighbor and respect, you know, all of these things that, you know, every time I put that

jersey on and represented Canada, you know, I was representing guys like you, right? And, and, and representing those morals, right? And, you know, the one thing that, and the reason why we had so much success in hockey is, is, you know, we played the game with heart, right? And that's what gave us an advantage over all the other European countries that were playing hockey as good as we were, is that we brought this heart and work ethic to the arena

that, you know, that they couldn't match, right? And so Canada needs to get its heart back and how do we get our heart back? It's through going back to the basics and the fundamentals of what it is to be a Canadian. You mentioned underdog. And, you know, I used to tell myself this story that I didn't make the NHL because I'm 5'6 or 5'6 in a bit. And then Theo Fleury walks in last night and we're standing side by side and I'm like, man, the guy's got an Olympic goal. he's my size, he scored 50 plus in a season. I'm like, nah, that, that lie is gone, right? Like that's, that's gone. You know, Joseph, for you having a couple of sports guys sitting

here, you know, as you look around the room and you get a feel for who I am, I'm sure that having a guy like that in your corner can put, at times, some things in perspective for you because he's been, I mean, one of the smallest men to ever play in the best hockey league on the planet, win Stanley Cups, go to the Olympics, go to the Olympics, win Olympics and you get a feel for for some of the background and pressure cooker situations you've been put in I wonder though you know like what you know we've talked several times I don't you know I'm trying to rack my brain if this ever came up when was the moment that you were like you know what I'm gonna run because you had to have known that even with

your success in life, you're going against guys who've been doing politics all their life and are just more on that stage, I would say. I don't know any better way to put it. No, no, and then tack on to that. You don't have like four years to build the Joseph Borgo brand. You have like this little tiny window. That's pretty much the definition of an underdog I would think in politics. So rewind that for me and go, what was the moment you're like, I think I'm running? Well, Thanks for that, John. All good insight there. And thank you, Theo, for what you said there as well.

You inspire me greatly. I love listening to your presentations. You know, everyone inspire me as well. We inspire one another. Absolutely. That's how it works. Yeah, that's how it works. So, you know, I have to say it was in my mid-20s when Pierre Trudeau was, this was a process for me.

I mean, I grew up in a family that was very political at dinner, supper. We would always be debating what's going on in the world. We were kind of always, dad always watched the news and what was going on around the world. So I kind of grew up in a household. We were very political discussing politics, the best leaders. I studied really all my adult life. I studied the best leaders, both in business and in politics. and political politicians really.

My dad was my hero, but also studying, you know, I loved President Ronald Reagan and studied his, studied him closely. That period, when he was in power from 80 to 81, that was a magical period. Ronald Reagan, what he exuded was love of God, you know, love of truth.

He was a man of tremendous integrity. And he inspired the Americans to be, we, you know, to aspire to that shining city on the hill. Margaret Thatcher did that for the, you know, got Great Britain out of trouble in the 1970s and 80s. So I've had a very politically oriented, other than working, my family and working, politics was always a huge part of my life. And so I kind of grew up with that.

As it led up to what I researched and wrote a book in 9899 titled Why Lower Taxes for All of Canadians, and that was based on insights that I had, having recovered from a life-threatening illness, owning a health food store, seeing, I wanted to see people be healthy. I'd been to hell and back. You know, Theo and I can relate. We've both been to hell and back. And that's partly what connects both of us on our mission to help Canada to be a healthy, happy, prosperous. country. And so I wouldn't wish that on anyone what I've been through, you know. And so I'm

passionate about helping Canadians to get back on the right track. So that's all of that is kind of, you know, Canadians for truth, freedom and justice helped the last two and a half years, the freedom convoy having spent there. And so I feel like I was preparing long. I have often, you know, it was in my mid-20s when I had really, really, the first desire to be the prime minister of the country. And I didn't like it because I did not want to be ever become an egotistical prime minister. So I kept giving those desires to God and to take them away from me because I did not want to do anything that would, you know, that was really for egotistical purposes.

That's just not what drives me, you know. And so when with all of what I've seen happening over the last seven years, the way, you know, Trudeau and his people have been managing this country, driving it into an iceberg and over the cliff in every way, destroying the unity in our country, the pride in our country. You know, after Ottawa, when I got back, I prayed on it for three weeks, and I was encouraged by others to run

and made that decision in early March and declared on March 10th to run to become the prime minister of the country. country. You know, part of what you've just said makes me feel better. And that is, it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction. When you go back to your 20s, I'm like, oh, okay, so this has been a thought you've had in your head for some time. You know, I want to be the GM of a hockey team, right? That's, you know, and lots of fans get the old knee-jerk reaction of like, I can do it better. Theo's laughing because he probably heard about it a lot. And when you first announced, I was like, gee, I wonder what happened in Ottawa specifically is what I thought I'm like geez you might like I wonder what you know but

hearing that kind of gives a little bit of clarity to like this has been thought about for a long time you're in a position now that probably makes it more at not advantageous but more accessible you know where you're at in life I would think that it's actually a possibility then have an O'Toole hosted it's like well here's the opportunity you either take or you don't I think one of the things you got to hang your hat on at least for the day is you had a You know, I was saying to Theo before we started, you had to make $300,000, was the number to even get put on the docket for the leadership race. And I was watching videos from like 12 days ago, and you're 175 grand short.

Now, for the listener, this isn't like, you know, Sean Newman is a billionaire and he walks in and cuts a check of, and it's all good. Like, this is small donations that have to come in from a whole plethora of people to get 175 grand. And you've hit your number. Yeah, I was just talking to Ryan Olson, our campaign manager and Eric Light. We've been chatting in the last,

well, every day we're getting updates. And we're over the 300, between 350, we're actually around the 380 right now. So it's, yeah. Like, I don't, hey, I'm about as green. as it is to this stuff. To me, that seems impressive.

No, Theo? Like, it's incredibly impressive because it's one person at a time, right?

So obviously, Joe's message is resonating with people. And when the message resonates with people and then you do the ask, they want to jump on board, right?

And, you know, the marketing stuff that we've done, you know, we all show up in Team Canada jerseys, you know,

this is the Team Canada campaign, you know, We've done a great job of marketing Joe and Joe's message and what Joe's all about. And so people are resonating with that. And now it's game on, right? It's game on. We're excited about, you know, the next step in the process.

And, you know, Joe's the kind of guy who's very level-headed. And, yeah, so I can see. I can see a movement building. And, you know, I'm excited to where this is all going to end up and play out with Joe, you know, winning the leadership race. Well, all right. Well, let's fast forward to the leadership race. This is where I really wanted to see where this goes because, you know, like, I mean, it wasn't only like two days ago. You weren't sure if you're going to be there.

Now it's like, nope, he's going to be there. So you're going to be on the docket with Pierre, pull you. Jean-Sheret, Leslyn Lewis, Patrick Brown, and Roman Babber. Now, the question is, as I look at it and I go, out of the list there, Pierre Pouillev has been walking across the country. Pretty much like a rock star for the last, like, month, two weeks, something like that. I'm sure you're looking at that going and you've got a plan in your head and everything else. What is Joseph going to do, or I don't know, how do you stand different?

You know, like there's then all these different people that are going to try and take the leadership. Well, let's start with this. I have been walking the talk and funding the talk of freedom for decades, not just talking the talk. I walked the talk. So let's start with that. I was in Ottawa on the ground, helping to organize their truckers, supporting them, acting as a liaison to help them build their relationships, you know, to organize that whole peaceful protest so that they would be working so that they could work with the police and work with the city of Ottawa to keep it a legal peaceful protest.

We tried to get in touch with the politicians when we were there. Ryan had put together a fantastic, excellent PowerPoint presentation of what the truckers wanted. The truckers were involved in preparing that. And we called Pierre. and he never returned my phone calls. So, I mean, it's fine to be a freedom lover when it's fashionable, but, you know, there was some hard work to be done, and the truckers did that hard work.

Pierre was nowhere to be found. He came out for a few photo ops, I understand, but I did not see Pierre out there standing up for truth, freedom, and justice these last two and a half years. I was in the trenches. I found it, I and others found. Canadians for Truth, Freedom, and Justice, when the face masks, we knew the occupational health and safety regulations were being violated on the face masks. The governments were violating

their own occupational health and safety regulations. Those things are suffocation devices that were actually increasing the amount of COVID-19, not decreasing it. You know, you don't put a screen door with openings three times bigger than mosquitoes. That's not going to keep the mosquitoes out. And that's what those face masks are at. And it was reducing restricting oxygen and and dramatically increasing carbon dioxide. All we are doing is weakening people's immune systems. So I was in there in the fight, putting out this information to all Canadians on our website, Canadians for Truth, publishing brochures. I was out there putting out information on quercetin, zinc, vitamin D, standing up for the doctors to be able to

prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. I was out there standing up, protecting children that did not want to take the experimental gene therapy. You know, Pierre was nowhere's to be found in that whole period. So now that it's fashionable, he's going to make Canada the freest country in the world. I don't think so. Theo was laughing on the side. You got some thoughts, I assume. Yeah.

Well, when a guy like Klaus Schwab publicly states that 50% of the cabinet members who are in Ottawa are owned by the World Economic Forum, you know right away that when you have a career politician, such as Pierre Pauliev, and I would say most of the people in Ottawa, you know, haven't really accomplished anything other than being a politician in their whole entire life. So they know how to play the game, right?

They know what to say, they know what to do. And, you know, Pierre Polyev is the Trojan, horse in this thing, right? Because Trudeau's numbers in the polls are dropping. Like, like, we don't even have a leader in the Conservative Party of Canada. And if there was an election today, they would win. We don't even have a leader. And we would win, right? So, um, the, the corruption in Ottawa is thick. It goes deep. And, and Pierre is part of that group. Right. No matter what he says, no matter what he comes out with, he is one of those guys. Because he allowed all of this stuff to happen. And most of the politician in Ottawa let all of this happen to the point where, you know, people are using words like communism and globalism and all that.

People are starting to use those words. And in Canada, for 150 years, we've been a democracy, a free. country and now we're talking about communism 150 years later that democracy does not work anymore and pierre is part of that group you know pierre is part of that group because he did nothing he did nothing and so the truckers became the official opposition party of canada when they went across the country why because they raised almost 20 million dollars and that's scared the living crap out of those career politicians. And who was the guy that was leading the truckers in Ottawa? This gentleman right to my left.

So, this is the guy. This guy's the real deal. This guy is going to get us out of this mess. And that's what people need to know right now. The people are going to listen to this podcast, Joe has your back. Pierre Palliev does not have your back. He's a career politician. He is corrupt as the day is long.

And as we go along, we are going to prove that to the Canadian people. Because he is the chosen one. They know that Trudeau's popularity and everything has run. He's on his way out. He's on his way out. Right? So Klaus Schwab and the boys in Davos go, oh, let's insert this Polyev guy. Right?

And if Pollyev gets in and becomes a prime minister, all the stuff he's talking about is not going to happen. Guaranteed it's not going to happen. But if you elect Joe, oh my God, it's going to be a great country. It's going to be a great place to live. It's going to be a great place to raise your family, all of these things. Because we're going to, all those laws that came in during this, they're all going away. No carbon tax, no digital IDs, no forced anything. We're getting rid of all of that.

We're getting back to the basics of Canadian values, hard work, love of community, you know, all those things. That's what Joe wants to do. And that's why I'm here because I believe in the same stuff that Joe does. Well, then I'm curious, Joe, because, you know, one of the things that's really, I've really struggled with politicians is they love to take something so simple and make it so complex. And what Theo just did was made it like, what do Canadians want across the board? I want this life back.

Just give his life back. It's all we want. I don't want to fight my neighbor. I don't want to argue about what you do with yourself. You want to go, you know, drink too many beers on a Friday night. It doesn't hurt me any. But don't tell me what I can and cannot do. You know, don't tell me I can't fly across my country.

Oh, wait, that's still in. And so I go to a politician. I go, so how simple is this going to be if Joseph Borgo gets in? Is it that simple? You walk in? I mean, I'm assuming you're going to find that it's not a, it's a little bit of a title wave in the old political world trying to go against you. Because if you go down the path of Theo's painting, this isn't as simple as walking through

a door and everything just becomes rosy. But can Joseph just walk in and speak plain truth and make it that simple? Because I haven't seen it a politician yet, not one. Well, you know, my father had a vision. for St. Brew and for his customers. And he made that dream come true. And he's helped farmers all over the world to prosper and to have a better, easier time of farming.

And I've learned the power of a vision. And the vision that I have, I believe it's a vision that really all Canadians have. It's a vision of people want to be healthy and I know how to do that. They want to be happy. And I've learned how to be healthy. and I've learned how to become happy again with what I've been through,

having been to hell and back, and I can see Theo's achieve that as well. We want to create a healthy, happy, and prosperous country, and I know how to create prosperity. I've been involved, and I'm not going to just say, I know. I'm involved. I was involved in a community where my father, my brothers, and all the people who work in our companies. and of course the farmers who supported us enabled us to prosper.

And so I feel like I've been a part of that, and I know how to, I know how to govern in a way. You know, essentially it was governing a country in a way. And over the last 40 plus years, I've been in leadership since I was 18 years old, in executive leadership positions since 1985, when my father appointed me to general manager or the Borgo Colivator vision. And I've learned from studying the best leaders in the world, there's a very predictable way to get Canada to be one of the best countries in the world.

And that is that if we have leadership, that honesty and at the very beginning is honesty and integrity, because when you always tell people the truth, then you build trust. The reason that there's so much skepticism towards politicians and even total outright distrust is because we've had, seven years of politicians lying to us. And when people lie to you, you know, imagine, look at it like

this, right? If you got a friend and your friend is, you know he's lying to you, what happens to that friendship? It's gone. It's gone. And that's what we have right now. And not only that, you stop listening. And that's the scary part of a government is we've stopped a good portion of the population is stop listening, which means you don't even pay attention where we're going. I speak very much for myself with a lot of other people, I'm sure. But you're not even listening anymore because it's like, well, you don't even trust, I mean, when we were sitting in Ottawa and Justin Trudeau had his press conference, his first one, I'm like, this is unbelievable. Like he won't even, he won't even address it. Like they're sitting on his doorstep. They won't address it. And so what do you do? You turn

it off. And then what do they do? They slide things through. And then we all wake up in a year and go, what the heck is going on? Yeah, really good insight. I think more people are paying attention, though. I really do. It's just in today's world of social media and how quickly things evolved. Geez, I mean like I just look at you, Joseph, two months ago

this wasn't even a thing, or at least in my brain it wasn't. Now, it is a thing. You're going to be on the stage. You're going to be sitting there. I'm going to be paying attention. But let me tell you straight. I will be like, I've never been this excited for a conservative. Just to see you go there will be interesting, right?

I can't even remember if I've ever watched a conservative federal leadership race, right? I mean that, like truthfully, but I will be watching this year. This is going to be interesting. And you kind of feel like, you know, that guy who comes at a right field, you have no idea he's coming, how can you possibly prepare? Everyone says the, you know, there's the conspiracy theory that the truckers was like, oh, they planned on that.

Nobody planned on that. Nobody had a clue. The truckers didn't have a clue that was coming. And then for a stint there, as long as it did, and them have to do as much as they had to do to get them. out of there and it's still not turned violent. Nobody could have predicted that. And so now if you're sitting there and you're any one of these candidates, they're going, who? Who's coming on? I don't mean that as an offense. I just mean that as your name coming in late, as late as it is, because April

29th, correct me if I'm wrong, was the date for the money had to be in, otherwise you weren't on, right? As we said, folks, it's April 28th. This episode is going to be released on April 29th. Like, that's about as right field as you can get. Like, oh, and, and, and, and, and, you know, and, and, we have a late addition. It's Rocky Belboa coming in and better saddle up because here we go. Well, and just wait. Just wait. Can you see the amount of money we're going to raise? And it's going to be big number. It's going to be a big number. Because I sat in the truck with Josh yesterday. We had, we made 40 phone calls. And everybody's like, yep, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. What can I do to help? How can I help? We love Joe. We love Joe's message. We love what he's doing. So, you know, Joe is just picking up off of the momentum that the truckers created.

We have all the truckers. They've been following us around. Well, and I can speak to that last night. There was truckers there, right? So it's like, just wait. Now that we're in the game, now that we're officially in the game, it's going to get fun. And I think we can all agree. I think I could be wrong on this, but I think one of the biggest uphill battles you face is, you know, when you look at Pierre Poliév, I'll stick with him,

because out of all the names, I know, I respect Leslie and Lewis, and then the rest I just don't know enough about. Is Pierre Poulyev, all through the pandemic, have been, he's been very like social media, social media, social media, every video has been, so he's very recognizable. And I don't know the background of politics, but I can certainly say if you go to the ballot list and you go,

well, I know that guy. That's who I'm going to vote for, right? One of the uphill battles you face is what Theo alluded to right at the start, is getting your name out in front and letting people know who you are. And the truckers had about, I don't know, tens of thousands of cameras doing that on the daily and the world know who they were. And so if you get the same type of support as you move along, Joseph, I don't think you're going to have any issue with people understanding who you are.

But that is an uphill battle you will face. Yeah, and I think Elon Musk buying Twitter has opened the marketplace up so that Joe is going to have a big platform on that, on that social media. What an interesting change Twitter has been in about three, four days. Yeah, like I've gained 10,000 followers in two days. So they've been suppressing me for two and a half years. And I just think of myself,

I've been following Theo. I haven't seen anything for me in a while. And it's not like I actively go, where's Theo and search you out? I just go, I don't remember, you know, whatever. And all of a sudden, like three, it's very strange to me that how, three, four days ago, now I'm getting different feeds on my Twitter.

So you're right. The message will spread. Absolutely. And we have to use social media because CBC, CTV and Global don't, they don't want Joe in the race. They don't want him anywhere near this race. They won't even admit there was truckers in Ottawa, let alone anything else. And the simple fact that CBC and CTV and global haven't full out went on a attack of Pierre Pauliev tells you absolutely everything you need to know about Pierre Polyev. He is the chosen one,

the Trojan horse that's coming in, you know, the career politician, you know, he's accomplished nothing in his life other than spewing lies and bullshit his whole entire life. You know what be fun? Having Pierre Poliev sit across the table from you, Theo, I'd like to see you two dance. It wouldn't even be a fair fight. It wouldn't be a fair fight. You know? Like I can't wait to see him at the debates and, you know, just kind of walk by him and say, you know what, Pierre, I know what you're doing. I know you're corrupt as a day is long.

Have a good debate. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy yourself lying to Canadians on the podium. He's a, you know, he's an interesting candidate because he's got, I don't know, I don't know, what's the words that politicians look for when you got an ideal candidate. candidate, young, relatively attractive. I'm no woman, but I'm just, you know. Yeah, he's a good looking guy. Yeah. Pretty wife, you know, and has been on the attack,

seem to just have the right words at the right time for Ottawa, that type of thing. I just keep, I always come back to him because when I look at the list, Joseph, I go, that's, you know, if it's David Goliath, that's Goliath. That's. And that's exactly where we want to be. That's exactly where we want to be. It's the perfect scenario for us. So what Pierre doesn't have going firm, Pierre was really good, you know, in going after Justin.

You know, we've got to give him credit for that. You know, he was good at holding Justin's feet to the fire, and that's his claim to fame. But when it comes to, he's never built an organization in his life. He's never led a large group of people and built unity around a vision. a mission. He's a young guy, so he doesn't have that experience. He's never managed crisis situations in his life, as I have had to in business, managing crisis situations. And on that very note, with the COVID-19 situation, as far as I can tell, you know, Pierre drank the Kool-Aid. He's still wearing a mask at times.

As far as I'm aware, he's gone with the experimental gene therapy and survived it unlike thousands of Canadians who didn't and maybe even thousands that died from it. And so

Pierre would have gone along with the World Health Organization in locking, Theresa Tam, in locking down the population and everything else. Yeah, locking down our country. So he would have added the same amount, maybe rather than $400 billion,

he would have added $200 billion to our national debt. Nothing has come out of Pierre's mouth, that that crisis situation that we've had over the last two and a half years, that he would have managed it really any differently. He would have gone along with the status quo. Had I been prime minister, that's what had never happened. I would have had immediately a Canadian, made group of scientists, honest, truth-seeking, principled scientists and doctors would have

formed a commission to review all the peer-reviewed science on the therapeutics that were available, and they would have made sure that all the doctors across the country could have been doctors, that they could have done their job to prevent and treat COVID-19. And there would have never been the lockdowns. In a million years, I would have never locked this country down. That ain't coming back here again. If I'm elected Prime Minister and there's another virus, we're going to do it with therapeutics and a healthy diet and lifestyle, letting Canadians be able to afford a healthy diet and lifestyle. Because if you've got a strong immune system, you don't have to worry about viruses.

I know I've been eating 100% organic food diet since 1992, and I never get sick, you know, and I saw it with my family as well. So I know how to help the Canadians financially empower them, and let's talk about that at some point. I have a tax plan that Pierre doesn't, he doesn't understand why we have to reform the tax system. I'm going to tell you why we have to reform the tax system. And, you know, why do we have to reform the tax system? Okay, so the reason we have to reform the tax system is because we don't tax businesses before they're profitable. So why are we taxing our citizens before they're profitable.

The true poverty line in this country, I calculate the average, and it would vary throughout the country, but I'll say the average, is $50,000 per Canadian. And yet federally, we've been taxing Canadians. We tax Canadians,

once they earn $11,800 federally, every dollar above that, they pay 15% federal tax, and provincially, depending the province you're in, you can be paying 10 to 15% to 20% tax. So here we are. We don't tax a business before they're profitable, but we're taxing our citizens before they're profitable. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And when we do that, when we tax people before they're profitable, what we're doing is we're taking away their ability to afford a healthy diet and lifestyle. We're taking away their ability to afford to have children. We're taking away their ability to have their financial neurons meet so they can balance their budget.

We're taking away their health, their happiness, their ability to afford to live. And so I want to reform the tax system. I want to increase the basic personal exemption level federally from 12,000 to 50,000 over four years. And I want to allow income splitting for married couples up to 100,000. Same thing over four years. And I want to allow every child that's born, once you have a child born, you'll have an immediate. a $20,000 deduction because we have to grow our population in this country. And that's how we're going to create a pro-life culture, a pro-health culture, a pro-life culture,

and we're going to grow our population from within the country. In 1950 per thousand population, we had a birth rate of 27 children per thousand population. Today it's 10 and declining. Why? Because it's expensive to have kids. Correct. And, I mean, people are having kids later in life, I would assume, is part of it. But, like, to have a kid and have that responsibility and try and make ends meet is becoming more and more difficult. We're seeing that with the price of everything right now.

Like, as time marches on here and, you know, our deficit government, I don't need to be a rocket scientist and know that my kids' kids' kids are at this point. You're going to be paying off what we've done here even just in the past two years. Yeah, you're exactly. right on that show. Well, I don't want to, I know you guys, I believe you have humbled coming up today. And I know I can sit here and do this all day, as Theo knows. Is there something, you know, I go all over the map and I try, you know,

as hopefully the listeners have come to enjoy. I kind of take it where it wants to go. But in saying that, if there's something we've missed out, Joseph or Theo, for that matter, is there something that you want to make sure the listeners know about the upcoming weeks, anything like that, if they want to follow you, or if there's just a topic on your brain that you want to make sure gets talked about. Theo?

No, I just think that, you know, Joe is on all social media platforms, so, you know, go to Joe Siburgo on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. He has accounts set up now. We're pumping out a lot of content, so please check us out on those platforms. Obviously, follow me as well. And, you know, the team that we've built has been an organic organization where people just kind of show up and they bring certain values, morals, and characteristics that just sort of fit in the right place.

And so as we move forward, you know, obviously our group's going to get bigger and we're building this amazing team. And so, you know, if you want to get involved with our campaign, go to josephborgot.ca and, you know, send us an email and, you know, somebody will get in touch with you. We're going to need representatives all over the country from Newfoundland all the way to BC. and so if you want to get involved in this movement, Team Canada, if you want to be a part of Team Canada, you know, go to Joseph's website and get involved. You know, I think, you know, we got fat and lazy as a country because things were so great, right?

You know, we have the greatest resources. We have the most beautiful country in the world, and we got a little bit complacent, right? So, you know, what we're doing at our events is we're asking people to stand up and be accounted and be counted. Stand up and be counted. But you don't have to do it alone anymore because you have a place to go. If you were scared throughout the whole pandemic, join us. We're not scared anymore. We know the truth, right? We're truth seekers and we know the truth. The truth is that This whole thing was orchestrated, planned, the whole nine yards. We're coming in to clean it all up, to give you back your freedom and your rights and your health, prosperity. You know, that's what we're all about. We're all about igniting this movement in the country that's so badly needed.

And so, yeah, join us. We want you. Like, we need you. And I don't think there's a better guy in the whole entire country who has faced his own adversity, has been very, very successful. You know, how many people do you know in Canada who built a billion dollar company from a population of 700 people? Like one, Joe Burgo, right? So, you know, when he's talking about taxes, he's talking about health and wealth and all those things. He's actually experienced those things where a guy like Pierre Pauliev hasn't experienced one thing.

He's been silver spoon fed his whole entire life. He has not faced adversity. He doesn't know how Theo Flurry feels 18 years ago with a gun in his mouth, ready to pull the trigger and end his life. Well, there's a lot of people out there right now that we're meeting at events who are going down that road right now because they don't see any hope. They don't see any hope. But with Joe, there's hope, right? And we're selling hope, right? We're selling hope and we're selling a new way of doing things.

Because what's the definition of insanity? Justin Trudeau. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. We've, you know, we've spent over a trillion dollars. We have absolutely nothing to show for it. So think about that. Where is all that money? Where is all that money?

My life's not better. Is your life better? No. I can tell you the podcast didn't get any of that trillion. Exactly. you know and so um yeah just be a part of our team man we we're going places we're doing things that we're going to we're going to improve the quality of your life and as leaders that's your job is to inspire to provide hope to provide inspiration that's us right it almost feels

picture perfect that the nchel playoffs are just around the corner i feel like you're gearing up with the galley flames to face off against nashville yeah you said a couple of things in the media. The media is all over you and you're just gearing up to run somebody through the boards on the other side from Nashville or whoever Calgary faces. But that'll be an interesting teammate to have for you, Joseph, a guy who's gone to war at this time of year. This is, you know, this is where hockey legends are born, you know, is in this time era. And I'll just say one more thing till I pass it over to Joe, but whether you realize it or not, you chose to be here. here at this time to be in this fight. You chose it before you even came to this earth. You chose to be

here at this time. Right. And, you know, the Bible predicted this. The Bible predicted this, that there was going to be one last battle of good versus evil while we're here. This is it. This is it. And there's no better guy that I want to go into that war with than the guy that's sitting to my left. right how can I not follow that up with a question I I hear that and I go I have found over the last four months five months you put your time frame on it you get the the point if you went back two years nobody talked about God the Bible it was almost kind of I'll even take myself on it it was almost kind of like taboo and over the last four or five months has become a very very open topic and I find more people open to it. I don't mean that they go what Theo just said

is bang on but they go hmm. Do you know how many times I was drunk and high in a hotel room somewhere in North America and I'm going praying to God because I was desperate and I didn't have anywhere else to go well this is it. That's why people are are reaching out to God is because it's because the last two years is no way to live life. No. And that wasn't Theo Fleury. That was the entire population pretty much of the entire world. Yeah.

And so, you know, this document right here, Canadian Charter Rights and Freedoms has the word God in it several times. So why did we take it out? Well, that's that's the globalist way of, you know, leadership, is divisiveness and taking God out of the equation. Well, you know, I'm living proof that if you reach out to God with a pure heart and a pure intention, he will answer your prayer, right? So that's where we're at, right?

That's where we're at. So you got anything to add there, big boy? No, well, well said. The only thing I'll say is the guy that built the billion dollar company, is my brother Jerry. Yes. Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

You were there too. Yeah, I, I, it takes a team to build something like that. Exactly. Exactly. So I just want to make sure if Jerry hears the podcast that I'm not taking credit. Well, I'm going to see Jerry tomorrow. Yeah.

I'll apologize in advance. Yeah, yeah, right on, Theo. Thank you. So the next podcast got to be the Borgo brothers around a table arguing. Now, that'd be something. Yeah, well, there's probably a little bit of argument left in us. So, yeah, Jerry deserves a lot of credit for what he did with Borgoy Industries to take it to the level he did. But we did start out together with our father, with Frank Borgle, Jerry Claude, myself, and all the talented, incredibly talented people that we have in our companies that help to build our companies.

And again, we know who buttered our bread. It was the farmers in Canada and around the world. the United States and around the world. We've done our best to serve them, to provide them with the best quality, most innovative, best quality products to give them value. And so, and that's what I want to do for the, for Canadians. I believe that if I'm elected to serve as leader of the Conservative Party and someday the Prime Minister of Canada, I'm going to be 100% in it to serve the Canadian people to help better their lives, as Theo was speaking to, my goal. is to help every Canadian to live above the true poverty line,

to help every Canadian to be healthy, to help every Canadian to be happy, to help every Canadian to fulfill, to be given the opportunity to fulfill their own dreams, the dreams that God puts in their hearts, like what you're doing here is you do a fantastic job, Sean. I'm so glad to be here. You know, this is the, we've got to do this again.

You've just done a fantastic job, and you do a great job of this. And this is a dream for you. And I can see why. You know, you're really great as acting as a host and asking great questions and your insights. And so that's what we want to do for all Canadians and help all Canadians to be able to fulfill their dreams. And working together, building Team Canada, you know, I mean, we've got a guy that's been there 10 times on Team Canada, you know, one to gold medals. And we're going to, I want to attract all the honest truth-seeking principles.

fiscal and social conservatives, and that includes building a big tent. I want to see our PPC brothers. You know, if we can get our PPC brothers in the Conservative Party, you know, let's not fight one another. That's egotistical. Let's go ahead, John. Well, I was just going to say that I've said this, and this may shock people. I would vote liberal tomorrow if a leader would just stand up where you're like, oh, I like

that. And I'm tongue in cheek on liberals. but I think there's just people across the board. It doesn't matter if they voted liberal, green, NDP, conservative, are looking for, and we've been looking for it. I mean, I think most Canadians, I'm not saying every Canadian, can agree on one thing. The last couple of years under Justin Trudeau,

we all just want them gone. I think going to Ottawa, the F. Trudeau flags, I think we all, by the end of it, could agree, yeah, that probably wasn't, you can't rally behind hatred. And I would say a lot of people, one of the things that was misunderstood by mainstream media, as they focused on that. But all the people there were like, nah, honestly, I just like them to come acknowledge we exist and have a conversation and change some things.

They wouldn't do that because that's not him. And so right now, I think the Canadian population, maybe I'm wrong on this a little bit. But to me it feels like we're just, we just want somebody. Somebody who's going to allow us to be who we are. We're diverse. That's what makes us great. but we're over the top kind. We're over the top like, you know, it's minus 30 outside.

You don't have a jacket on. I'll take mine off kind of mentality. We come from a group of people out west here at least that traveled across the world to come bear out and minus 40 and live in tents and create little communities that looked out for one another. And that's been all stripped of us over the course of a lifetime. And I think a lot of people just want somebody, stand up, tell it the way it is, speak plainly. and if you lose on that,

then we do have a big problem because I look at it and I go, can you fix every problem of every person the 38 million or so that are in Canada? That's a tough ask. But for most of us, we just want to be able to live life again. And if you can pull that off,

I mean, I think whether you're in Newfoundland, BC, anywhere in between, up north, that message will resonate, in my opinion. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. And I've been asked by almost every candidate to be a part of what they're doing. Okay. So I've been mentored by the greatest leaders in my sport.

Okay. Gretzky, Lemieux, Sackick, Eiserman, you name it, right? And I could have picked any guy to be. I'm very, I consider myself a very intelligent guy. I can read people in a millisecond. and think to yourself, why is Steele Flurry, loaning his name, his reputation, everything he's built, his whole entire brand to be with Joseph.

Because Joseph reminds me of those guys that I played hockey with and had success with Lanny, you know, all those guys. And so, you know, you know, you know, You know, it's, and I'm, and for selfish reasons, you know, there's some really great mentorship that I'm picking up here along the way, right, from Joe. Just hanging around Joe, observing Joe, being around Joe. That's mentorship, right? Because in my life, I'm always looking to be better today than I was yesterday. And so I need to hang around with solid people in my life who are going to call me out on my bullshit.

and keep me on the straight and narrow. And, you know, Joe, Joe's one of those guys, right? So, yeah, I'm here to support Joe, but from the selfish perspective, I'm here for some mentorship, too, right? And that's important because I've been coached my whole entire life. And I need coaching for the rest of my life. So, you know, I want to be around people like that, right? And that's why I'm here is for all those reasons.

Well, thank you for that deal. Really appreciate that. But vice versa as well. For sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you guys coming in and doing this. I know as the campaign trail picks up pace, it won't be slowing down.

Your time becomes very valuable. So giving me a trunk of it, I do appreciate that. You stop it in here doing it in a person to, you know, cherry on the top, so to speak. So safe travels and best of luck in your campaign. I'm sure a lot of people are going to be watching and seeing how this progresses and everything else. So thanks again, guys. Oh, thank you, Sean. It's a pleasure to be here, honor to be here, and happy to be part of your success.

You know, you've built a really great audience by having some tough conversations, and that's what we need in this country is to have the tough conversation that people don't want to have. And we want to have those conversations because we have a solution, right? We have a solution to all this insanity that, you know, that's happened over the last couple of years, right? You know, and when you bring God into the equation, the insanity gets less and less and less, right? That's been my own experience in life, and I know that that's been Joe's experience as well, is when you have faith, it eliminates fear, right? and the only thing that's kept me saying through this whole entire process is my faith, right? Because when I have faith, I don't go into fear as much as I used to, right?

Because I live my whole life in fear. I suffer from anxiety. What is anxiety? Fear, right? You know, and every day that I get closer and build this new relationship with, you know, with this higher power, you know, God all abutah, Jehovah, you know, tree in my backyard, whatever the hell you want to call it, as long as I continue to build that relationship with God, you know, my life gets better and I have less fear and I have more hope. And when I have more hope, then I can inspire more people.

And that's, you know, that's what this is all about, you know, and knowing that, knowing that Joe, has this incredible faith. I think that's the mentorship part of the relationship that I needed at this time in my life and that's why I chose to be here. Well, thanks guys. Thanks for tuning in today, guys. I hope you enjoyed it. Please, if you haven't liked, subscribed, left a comment, shared. If you want to check the show notes, you can donate to the channel through my Patreon account. I appreciate all of you guys and give me some of your time again. Always the hard-earned time. I know how precious the time is.

So I enjoy that you've listened this far. And wherever you're at, go have a great weekend. Hopefully the sun shines. I'm going to go to a hockey draft. We're on a little bit of a road trip with the family this weekend. And I'm looking forward to just maxing and relaxing, so to speak. We'll catch up to you guys Monday. Thank you.