Shaun Newman Podcast - #261 - Dr. Francis Christian

Episode Date: May 4, 2022

Francis has been a surgeon for more than 20 years. He was the director of quality improvement and patient safety in the department of surgery, with the University of Saskatchewan. We discuss censorship, Soviet Russia & Ghandi.  Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500 Support here:⁠ https://www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast

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He's the former director of quality improvement in patient. safety in the Department of Surgery with the University of Saskatchewan and with the SHA. He also served as editor of the Journal of the Surgical Humanities. I'm talking about Dr. Francis Christian. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Shaw Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Dr. Francis Christian.

So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on board. Well, thanks. I'm happy to be here. Now, for the listener who doesn't know who Francis Christian is, maybe just a quick overview of your background, Francis, and anything that you would like to add in? I just want to say that I'm happy to be here, Sean, and I'm a surgeon, and I worked in Saskatchewan since 2007. I was in Edmonton before that. I did trauma surgery, cancer surgery, that sort of thing. On the first of March this year, I retired from Pratt.

practice in Saskatchewan after more than 30 years of practicing surgery. In Saskatchewan, I was professor of surgery. I was director of the Quality and Patient Safety Department within the Department of Surgery. I started several programs for the Quality and Safety Department. There was an app that I developed together with the computer department here, the morbidity and mortality app for surgeons, which is being used all over the province of Saskatchewan. I was director of the surgical humanities program, which is a unique program. There's no similar program, I believe, in pretty much anywhere I know. and I co-founded the department and founded the Journal of the Surgical Humanities,

which has a worldwide circulation. I was the editor-in-chief of the journal. So for the dummy sitting on this side, you're a highly decorated surgeon. and in my brief discussions with you, I know you're a poet as well, a man who's got a deep mind and one that I'm, well, I'm eager to pick your brain. You know, one of the things that has plagued, and maybe it's been longer than I like to care to admit, but censorship has been an interesting thing to watch. It's scary, but interesting nonetheless to see how this is playing out and to see how the Canadian government itself is censoring discussion and topics. I'm curious,

Francis, on your thoughts on what you've been seeing over the last. Well, it's certainly been in the past two years, but I'm sure it goes longer than that. Yeah, you see censorship and controlling the media are what totalitarian and dictatorial tyrannical regimes of the past have used in a very effective way to control the narrative. So if you look at the Soviet Union, which is only about just over a hundred years ago, in 1917 after the communist revolution, Lenin, Vladimir Lenin, passed a decree for the press, which said that only what the Communist Party decreed as allowable news would be allowed to be broadcast or to be printed in newspapers for the public. Lenin also said that that decree of the press would be a temporary measure, but as we know, it lasted for more than 70 years. Now, if you look at the censorship that is going on as we speak and started, I would argue much before COVID, but sort of came to focus during the COVID era, that censorship essentially

is very similar to the totalitarian censorship of the past. If you look at the Nazi government and their control of media, the propaganda against the Jews, for example, again, that's very similar to what we're going through now. Only what is permitted by the authorities is approved, alternate narratives are not approved. Alternate views are, because the journalist's job is not to be an arm of the government. The journalist's job is to vet the truth, follow the truth, wherever it leads.

In order to do that, you have to admit opposite opinions, alternative opinions, opposite opinions, other views. As you would do, for example, in a political debate, you wouldn't have only the liberals speaking for one and a half or two hours. You would have the conservatives, you would have the Greens, you would have the NDP, maybe the next one, you'll have the PPC, and everybody's given airtime. And similarly, in following the news, whether it's scientific news, vaccination news, or all these other news, a journalist is supposed to vet all sides and to present a fair argument and a fair reporting of the news so that the public can make up its mind. In totalitarian regimes, the opposite happens. The government decides what the public can hear. The government decides what is news, essentially. If you look at the novel 1984 by George Orwell, there's a so-called Ministry of Truth.

The Ministry of Truth controls the media. Governments control the media to the extent that the media becomes an arm of government. And that's exactly what's happened in Canada and much of the Western world. So if you look at Canada, what Trudeau and the Trudeau government or in Saskatchewan Mall and the Moor government decide can be published, will be published. If not, nobody will know anything about it. For example, things like vaccine safety, whether in fact children need to be vaccinated. So these are, there is by no means.

consensus on these topics among experts, however you define the word expert, because by definition, there is a large body of opinion, maybe a minority opinion, but a lot of experts from Harvard and Yale and Oxford, Cambridge, who don't agree with the narrative, with the accepted narrative. So that's one aspect of it. The other aspect of it is that the Trudeau government is actually giving money to the media. Millions of dollars, including, and Canadians may not know this, a lot of the local newspapers you see are actually owned by one media group. It's called Post Media.

So you may think that Post Media owns only National Post, but you would be wrong. Post media also owns the Regina Leader Post. Post media also owns Saston Star Phoenix. Calgary Sun. Edmonton Journal. They're all owned by the same group. They all take money from Trudeau.

The Globe and Mail. CBC. Of course, CBC is subsidized by the government and in addition probably gets extra money too. But all these organizations do absolutely do accept money from Trudeau. There are only very few who don't. I think True North news doesn't. The Western standard, which is probably the only viable newspaper in terms of honest news in the country. And there are a handful that don't accept money from the Trudeau

government. But if you accept money from the government, you've become the government's servant or the government's steward. You become an arm of government, and that's exactly what's been happening. So the COVID thing, for example, people are not being able to get the narrative on both sides. So, for example, children who are manifold times, magnitude of times less at risk than older people. There is absolutely no discussion in the media about the gradation of risk. COVID can be, not always, but can be, a deadly disease for the elderly, the infirm, those over 18, for example.

But for those less than 17, it's of, it's like, it's actually less of a problem than, than some years of the annual flu. So the fact that in young people, the risk of death from COVID is vanishingly small, what we call statistically zero, is not accepted as a viable topic for discussion in the media, because the government tells them what to say and how to say it. And so these are some of the problems

it censorship. And Canadians should wake up to the fact that censorship is in fact a sign of totalitarian rule. You may not see it now. And totalitarian governments don't take away all your freedoms at the same time in one fell sweep. It usually is a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time until it becomes too late. Well, I mean, I can certainly attest to censorship. I mean, I had my entire channel gone from YouTube, right? So like just overnight, boom, done. And so it's become very evident to me what's going on.

You know, when you say piece by piece by piece, you know, little by little until it's too late. Not that you know when it's too late, but do you feel like it's too late? Or do you think we're in the early stages of the ballgame, so to speak? Well, it's, it's, you know, it's never too late. The human spirit cannot be crushed forever and no tyranny lasts forever. So the fact is, the resistance against tyranny is not something we can give up. We have to keep resisting the We have to keep resisting, in this case, the censorship, the tyrannical rule, all these, you know, unscientific COVID measures which have caused so much harm, so much death, despair, destruction. We must resist it peacefully and legally.

But of course, we must resist it. And I wouldn't say that there is a point where it's too late. even during the dark, deep times of the communist era, there was a resistance. I'll give you an example. There is a word, it's a Russian word, it's called Samizdat. And Canadians who are interested in literature may know that although Canada and Russia share a similar climate, a similar landscape, a similar sort of forest scape. We have similar, you know, boreal areas, conifers everywhere,

you know, 30, 40 below temperatures in the winter. But if you look at the literary output of the two countries, Russia has produced world-class writers, poets, musicians. And, you know, it is a said nobody loves poetry like a Russian. So during the deep dark censorship era of the Soviet tyranny, people must distinguish Soviet Union from Russia because Soviet Union was a communist ideology. It didn't represent the common Russian people. The common Russian people hated the Soviet tyranny, which was thrust upon them. the communist authorities and their henchmen, essentially. And so there's a word called Samizdath.

Remember that if you are caught with opposing views in the Soviet Union, you could be sent to the Gulag, which is a concentration camp in northern Siberia, and you could be killed there by hard labor. You could disappear in one of the prison systems, or you could be just shot. So during that grim era, there was a underground press that was called the Samizdat. And in dimly lit apartment buildings, in manual typewriters, during the night, Samizdat, honest people, including journalists, would be typing out pages from the Bible. which was banned in Russia, pages from the great works of literature,

Pasternak, Bulgakov, and so on. And in the early hours of the morning, they would be smuggled into the streets of Leningrad and Moscow and so on, and people would start reading it. So your podcast itself is resistance, and you are part of the Samizad. So allow me to compliment you for that. Well, I appreciate that, Francis.

Some days I don't feel like any of that, right? Like, I've definitely, we have mutual friends. And so Soljinnitson has really, that's a book that was easy and hard to read at the same time, if that makes sense. I don't know if that makes sense. but learning about Russia and Soviet Union and some of the atrocities that happened there for, like you say, holding opposing views is, you know, kind of the temperature of a lot of the world right now.

But Canada is the forefront of that. We saw that with the convoy and everything else. Like one of the hardest things to kind of get, my brain around is our national media and their viewpoint on certain arguments. And I have to sit here and go, have I become extreme? Like, am I like, and I actually have to chew on that. And that is pretty wild. And I like that you bring up the Western standard because I think they do a very good job of trying to remain balanced and ask good questions and kind of give you both sides and really try and give you something that, you know, you trust your population is going to sit there and try and

figure things out for themselves. And they don't take money from Trudeau. Yeah. And yet, I've gotten into a lot of discussions lately that say everybody's fallen for the conspiracy theories. The population can't figure out what truth is and things like that. And I'm like, I think maybe that's dangerous. Well, maybe one of the most dangerous things I've ever heard is the idea that I know what's best for you or that Francis Christian knows what's best for me. I would like to talk about some things. And then let the listener do what they always do. They're going to listen to

you. They're going to listen to me. They're going to say what they like. They're going to say what they don't like, they're going to have their own thoughts, and that's good for them. Because for too long, I probably didn't realize how much I was being censored or how much conversation was. But that's been happening across the board. And that is, I don't know, that hurts a population like big time. And you don't realize it until you get into what I'm doing right now. And I feel uncomfortable all the time talking about different things. But if I feel uncomfortable, how many other people feel uncomfortable, just broaching subjects that have been deemed taboo or whatever the government or media is going to portray it as?

Yeah, I mean, the fact is in the COVID era, there is a, there's a narrative that the majority of people believe. it's a sort of a crutch for the population who want something to believe in uncertain times. It's also a classic propaganda technique. And if you look at the propaganda techniques of the communist Soviet era and the Nazi regime, the first thing is to induce fear, fear in the public. fear in the population so that everybody is fearful and waiting, waiting for a solution. And that solution may include censorship, the loss of your freedoms, lockdowns, which by the way

have been shown to have absolutely no effect in controlling COVID. That solution could be a vaccine which we now know is neither safe nor effective. and people grasp those solutions because they're grasping for something. They can be in conditioned by fear. And that happened in 2020. Remember, I told you in these totalitarian times, media become the arms of government. And they were doing the government's behest and dictated.

of inducing fear in the population by essentially reporting things in a sensational way without any context, okay, and not giving any chance for the opposing view to be heard. For example, back in 2020, there were experts from Oxford, from Harvard, Martin Kool- Dhrush, Sunitra Gupta was from Harvard. Then you had Jay Badacharya from Stanford. By the way, that great Barrington declaration is still up on the internet and has been endorsed by literally tens of thousands of physicians and scientists around the world. So if tens of thousands of physicians and scientists around the world are endorsing a particular scientific and social view, shouldn't the public be told about it. Shouldn't you invite these experts from Harvard, from Oxford, from Stanford, from

Yale, onto your shows to debate this guy Fauci who basically is contradicting himself every week. About Fauci, everybody should read the book by Robert F. Kennedy. It's called the real Anthony, the real Anthony Falci. Every statement there is referenced. And it shows what a fraud. Anthony Fauci is. But people don't know that because the opposing view is censored. You don't have people from Oxford and Yale and Harvard and Stanford who oppose Fauci's view on your shows because then you would be interfering with the government narrative. So remember, the government's aim and they admitted, in fact, in UK, in UK, there are even some documents out about how the government conditioned the public by a fear campaign. And I'm sure that was done here too.

And the fear makes people think that all these things are actually important. Lockdowns which cause misery to old people, young people, you know, mass in schools for children who have zero risk. and mass don't work in that way anyway. And then you have social distancing, which for teenagers, for example, it's like being put in jail. And if you tell children and young people, you can't touch each other, hug each other,

shake hands with each other, it's punishing people with absolutely no signs or evidence behind it. But of course, the people won't know because these experts from various leading institutions of the world, Oxford and Cambridge and Yale and Harvard and Stanford are not given airtime. Instead, they give airtime only to this fraud, according to Robert F. Kennedy's book, if you look at every statement he makes,

Robert of Kennedy in that book, the real Anthony Fauci, this fraudulent character who makes fraudulent claims in the COVID era has got enormous airtime. Theresa Tam has got enormous airtime. But interestingly, it's the politicians who tell us what the science is and the public health guys. The public health guys have done a terrible job during this pandemic. terrible. And if you have public health guys from say Saskatchewan, you should allow a debate between them and people from Oxford and Yale and Harvard and Stanford. But of course, media doesn't allow it. All you hear about is fear. And then once you're conditioned by fear,

you want a solution. Even if that solution scientifically doesn't make sense, and you don't know it because they don't tell you anything about the science. They tell you only one story and one narrative. And the conditioned public grasp for it. It's like you're waterboarded, and then you're grasping for air. And during the time you're seeing, you know, vaccine, lockdown, social distancing, mass, and you grasp it. not knowing that those are parts of the tyranny. It's just different phases of the same tyranny.

Do you think the longer they hold on to that narrative, the quicker the crumble will be for mainstream media, even if they are pumping tons of millions of dollars into it, the transition of people searching out, you know, Western Standard five years ago, maybe could have been a newspaper, maybe. But in today's world, it's like desperately sought out. Shows like myself are desperately sought out now

because people want to hear more than just what's being pushed on the mainstream TV shows, narratives, everything. And I wonder, of course they're going to get the funding, Francis. Like, I'm not going to, you know, even, if there's no strings attached. The fact is no government's coming to give Sean Newman any money, right? Like they, I've been had a few different words used about the show I do, which I always find interesting, but that's a side note. I just wonder if, you know, they function off of viewership, even though they're going to get money on top of money on top of money. Isn't that just going to

race more people to the lifeboats, so to speak, to get away from what they're being told about? like, I don't know, or am I wrong on that? I think you're partly right. One of the problems, I think, which the other narrative, including the scientific narrative from these experts in Harvard and Yale and Senator Gupta and Martin Kulorf and Peter McCullough and Jay Batacharya, Stanford. and I can go on. There are dozens of leading scientists around the world

who have a different view. Or some scientists agree in some things and differ in other things, but everybody should get airtime. Now, we're coming back to your question. Is the public actively seeking out alternative sources of view since the legacy media, TV, CBC,

post media, SAS Dunstah, Phoenix, Regina, Leader Post. They're all... I just look at it. They're all captured by by the government and they're essentially

arms of the government, arms of the government tyranny. Are people looking at other sources of news, other areas where they can go on the internet, your program, for example. I think more and more people are doing that. I think, for example, the fact that the vaccine is, if you look at the Ontario data, for example, the data from Ontario is, you know, Saskatchian stopped doing this

some several weeks ago, but Ontario, if you look on the internet, you can still see week on week the number of cases. And if you see that if you're boosted with three or more doses of vaccine, you're more at risk of getting COVID than if you're unvaccinated. Okay. So that's what the Ontario data shows. People are getting COVID much more commonly who are, you know, boosted. So when people look at that, hopefully they're going, this is not what the government told. us, the government told us the vaccines are the way out of the pandemic. Remember, remember, you know, Scott Moore saying that? Remember Shabab saying that in Saskatchewan? Remember Teresa Tam and Trudeau saying it? Vaccines are the way out of the pandemic. I haven't

heard that term now for the last three or four months, which is a good thing. But when people know that the vaccines are not effective, they hopefully are looking at shows like yours. or, you know, just for the alternative view. The view that, for example, which we have known for more than two years now, that this is, this virus can be deadly, but not to all age groups. It differs depending on which age group you come under. How many people know that? The government just says that this is a terrible disease.

Everybody, whether you're five-year-old or 85-year-old. needs the vaccine. But the risk for an 85 year old of dying of COVID, the infection fatality rate is about 5,000 times more than a 5 to 11 year old. So these are some of the things that the public should go after. Yeah. Well, the most influential thing I did was I can listen to you talk about it, you know, and others talk about it. And you know, yeah, I kind of understand, whatever. But the thing is in today's world, you mentioned Ontario, but Alberta kept and continues to keep relatively good stats. They got people that are on top of it, even from the Twitterverse, making sure they don't, you know, change fully vaccinated to unvaccinated when the time comes

that they haven't had their booster and things like that. But in the beginning, they really, like, if you wanted to go on and see updated stats, you just go out to the Alberta health website. And, watch it. And the thing that's probably more people need to do, and I would argue a lot of the people who listen to the show have done, is go do the numbers for yourself. You can listen to Sean or Dr. Francis Christian and hear about the numbers and hear about how young people, but just pull it up. Go through the states, go through Sweden, go through, pull up as, you can go search it all out. It's all sitting there. And you do the math and all of a sudden you're like, holy mac. And that's something, Francis, you cannot unsee. Once you've seen that, you're like,

that doesn't even make sense. So why did they keep going on it? You know, you mentioned Scott Moe. I'm curious your thoughts. You know, we can talk about all of Canada, but what are your thoughts on maybe you're in Saskatchewan? Saskatchewan's been a beaming light of success in the COVID world when all of Canada talks about it

because they didn't lock everything right down for the longest time and everything else. You're a man who lived through it. What are your thoughts on how the Saskatchewanagan's, government handled the last two years? Well, I don't agree with you, Sean, that this is a beaming late of whatever you called it. You know, it is true that Scott Moore would pull back many of the mandates in early February, but only after the truckers got to Ottawa. So when the truckers got to Ottawa, a lot of people, a lot of politicians realized, hey,

These guys have more support than we thought they had. There are vast swades of our population, including in rural Saskatchewan. It was a cynical political realization that politicians came to, including Scott Moe, that if they didn't move quickly, they will lose the next election. They will lose their seats. So I don't agree that just because Cotmo reversed some of the mandates three or four weeks before, let's say, Alberta did, they are somehow better than other provinces. In fact, when you look at 2021, all the same tyrannical lockdown things. happened in Saskatchewan too. People lost their jobs. Businesses went under. Numerous small

businesses in Saskatchewan have closed. The suicide rate is more than double what it was before the pandemic. We know that all these mental health issues have skyrocketed, depression, anxiety, which often leads to suicide and so on. So if you look at Scott Moore's record, it's been horrible, just horrible. He has refused to listen to the other side. He has done exactly what other politicians have done in the Western world. In fact, he sought actively to demonize those who are vaccine-free or unvaccinated. He said in the summer of 2021 that he was losing patients with the vaccine free. He said he wanted to make life as difficult as possible for the vaccine free.

And these won't be forgotten by the people of Saskatchewan. His government was intent on building quarantine camps to harass people in Saskatchewan. The public health guys under Moe, they said that they would be creating a police force of retired police officers to haul people off to these quarantine camps. So no, if, on the scale of 1 to 10,

to Scott Moore, I would give zero. If it would be minus, I would give him minus 10. Well, I should have, I know better than to choose my words loosely. I didn't mean that he did a smashing job of success other than people sitting in Calgary who have been locked down or Toronto or take some of the major centers. Look at Saskatchewan what you got, you had restaurants partially open. And to that, they're like, wow, you guys are living life. Meanwhile, we're all stuck in the same cage, so to speak, is all the meaning.

I almost meant it tongue and cheek. Yeah, no, no, I realize that, Sean. I don't think you're a fan of Moe at all. But I have to say, you know, this is an analogy that I give to many people. The behavior of Scott Moe is very much like just, you know, Trudeau or, you know, Kenny. It's like a really abusive boyfriend who, occasionally brings his girlfriend flowers.

And when his girlfriend gets those flowers, they think everything is going to change, but no, it doesn't change. And come the next pandemic, or even come a surge of flu cases or COVID cases in the winter, which, you know, all these viruses naturally circulate in the winter, that's nothing unusual. They are poised, all these politicians,

and pseudo leaders to bring back the tyranny. So don't be fooled and hold these people's feet to the fire. And the fact is, you know, we have to have parallel systems. We have to have a different way of looking at things. Well, I have faith after witnessing the convoy and everything else, that when or if they try again to lock down everybody to implement everything they did, I have faith in my common man and woman that that's not going to happen, or it's not going to happen nearly as easy as the first time around.

I'm pretty, like I just, I look at myself, Francis. When I came back from Ottawa, I was a guy previously going to Ottawa. I listened to all this, I did all this, but I just didn't, I just don't want to, I don't want to ruffle feathers, right? Like, I don't want to get into it with somebody at whatever, a kid's hockey game or in the rink or whatever. It doesn't matter. I just being the nice Canadian or something.

And coming back from Ottawa, I went, you can be nice, but stand for what you believe. And I think that has spread off of what they did. And maybe I'm wrong. I mean, here I could be sitting in four months and eating my words, but I, I look at it and I just go, I think that spread. As quickly as what they did spread, I think everybody heard the bell that went off when when everybody got down to Ottawa saw what was going on. The fact that remained peaceful, the fact that you can be firm in your beliefs and still

put a smile on your face, handshake, hugs, help the disabled, the elderly, the homeless, feed people. Like everything I saw there, I'm like, that needs to come back to everywhere amongst Canada, let alone the rest of the world. And to me, I see what, like, politicians better to have taken note of that because if they haven't, I think they're in for a rude awakening. Now, I hope you got to walk the talk, obviously, but like, I don't know how you unsee what was what happened there.

That's my personal thought on it. And that's positive, I know. And sometimes I might be eternally optimistic. But I look at what's going on and I go, I think for the first time, in my lifetime, I understand what the majority means. Like, wow, there's people. And when they move together, nobody can stand in their way. And I don't know.

I never thought I would ever witness that because I'd talked to Brian Peckford. I'd seen what he had talked about with the Charter of Rights and freedoms and things. And I was like, yeah, I'm not seeing it. And then you're seeing it. Once you see it, it's like, oh, there's no coming back from that. At least that's my brief thought on it. Yeah, civil disobedience. as Gandhi defined it is peaceful and non-violent,

no violence, peaceful, but it does move and shake governments. And it shook the then most powerful nation in the world, Britain. And by a completely non-violent movement, Gandhi was able to defeat the colonial power. So civil disobedience means actually making life difficult for the tyranny. So I think that's what you alluded to. Peaceful, non-violent, but look what the truckers have already achieved. They changed the conservative leader.

they made provincial premiers reverse the mandates. Nobody would have moved in the way they did had the truckers not got to Ottawa and the people had seen that they have massive support. I don't think it's majority support. I think it's still a minority, but it's a growing minority. And then bodies like these world economic bodies that seek, to control governments like the World Economic Forum. Most people hadn't heard about things like the WEF.

And now people, if they have not heard about it, they should have because it was even mentioned in Parliament. So and then Trudeau by, you know, freezing accounts and so on of people, showed Canadians that nobody's money is safe from the government. So all these things were achieved because of the truckers. So, you know, the fact is the tyranny has to be resisted. It has to be done nonviolently, peacefully.

But resistance is not an option. It has to go on. Well, before I let you go, I have a line I'd written from Gandhi. It really helped me make sense of some things that I saw in Ottawa. and certainly experienced myself. And it was the best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others. And I was like, hmm, there's a lot of power in those words

if you can begin to understand them. And I saw a lot of that from a lot of different people there when I was in and amongst the crowd. And once again, I think that has spread across our country. I don't think it's going away. I think you can't unsee that. But you're right in a sense that, the government has shown its hand now it's whether we i certainly don't think they're going to

let off the gas pedal so to speak they don't seem to want to do that um and it'll be interesting to see what comes over the the coming days weeks months years even but i appreciate you coming on francis giving me some of your time and uh and talk about this well thank you sean it's a great pleasure to be here god bless you and god bless your resistance Hey, thanks for tuning in today, guys. Hope you enjoyed it. If you just stumbled on the show, make sure to like, subscribe, leave some thoughts. Hit me up on social media.

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