Shaun Newman Podcast - #307 - Jeremy MacKenzie

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

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Dissident show. I'm talking about Jeremy McKenzie. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Jeremy McKenzie, The Raging Dissident.com, and you are listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today.

I'm joined by Jeremy McKenzie, aka the Raging Dissident, and I just keep shortening it. So you're just the rage to me. But thanks, sir, for giving me some of your time. Jeremy works fine. Thanks. Jeremy works too.

You wouldn't know it from listening to the media or anybody else, but I am actually a human being with a name and a family and so on. I'm not actually a boogeyman from a Marvel comic book. This is true. How things been, Bigfellow? The last time I talked to you was January 26, 210 days ago, if you can believe that. I mean, we've exchanged texts here and there, but it was last time you're on the show. It was right before a convoy.

Yeah. I was literally getting off. this, hopping in a vehicle and driving cross-country. Yeah. Driving somewhere, I think, as well. What day was, do you remember what? Well, that would have been January sometime. Well, January, I tell you what, we have the power.

I tell you what, it was. Yeah, it's not important. I get it. It was, yeah, it would have been January. I'm pretty sure it was a Monday. And then I released it on the, oh, no, sorry, it was a Tuesday, and I released it on the Wednesday, January 26. So January 25th is when we actually talked.

Yeah, okay. It's a long time ago. It's a lot of crazy nonsense has taken place since then. How are you doing, Big Cat? Like, I put it to you this way. I don't, I'd love to sit here and say I know you extremely well. I don't. But in saying that our paths have crossed, certainly a lot of my audience falls along very

closely with that you do. And I've been kept up to speed on a lot of what's went on. But Ottawa happened. Ottawa unraveled, didn't unravel, whatever happened there. And then everybody, you know, is kind of come back from there. And I've kind of been doing my thing. And then I just, everywhere I go, all I see is Viva Frey, Jeremy McKenzie and Rachel Gilmore.

And I'm like, all right, it's time. It's time that I've waited long enough. Let's bring the, let's bring McKenzie back on. Yeah. We all, I mean, some people, it's, you know, there's like sharks in the ocean, right? There's small or is really tiny. They're basically parasitic fish. And what they'll do is attach themselves to the side of the shark.

And then they use that as protection. And they get a free ride from A to B. And they're just going to eat the bacteria off the shark to sustain themselves. That's essentially what people like Rachel Gilmore are in a nutshell. They can't really contribute or do much of anything except to, you know, try to attach themselves to something else that people are interested in and trying to insert themselves for attention. And it's a pretty classic narcissist move.

And that's what happens when you hire people as journalists that previously, work experience was a, you know, a failed TikTok or Instagram model. Well, I certainly, knowing, knowing you from before all this came about and certainly seeing a bunch of the stuff you did while in Ottawa and everything else, I have a different view. Well, exactly. I have a different view of your background.

But in saying that, I'm like, you know what? let's talk a bit about some of it and try and, well, I don't know, let you say your piece, everything else. Because I listen to the Viva Frey interview and I've obviously listened to a bunch of your stuff before. But I think a lot of people diagonal and all that if they know they know and if they don't know, they don't know. And maybe they're listening to the show and they just have no idea. And then I don't know, Jeremy. I feel like it's an opportunity to clear up a few things, at least if nothing else. I mean, all people really have to do, as we both know.

is do a couple of Google searches and they can get to the bottom of it real quick. But, you know, say you're here. Well, I mean, I would just tell people to go to the source. You know, for a second, I'd send them one of the video or at least recently. Like, people love to talk about me, but very few of them will talk to me and find out for themselves. I'd rather just copy and paste and, you know, do whatever they think the current thing is. It's just what, you know, whatever it is. If it's, we're going to invade a country and kill millions of people.

We don't know why, but TV man said so. It's the same thing with this. You know, TV man says, you know, I'm, I'm X, Y, Z, so that must be true. They're just, you know, it's an indictment of our society that it's that, that's that bad. And it's not even something that's, like, hidden from them. You know, we can, you can find this out very, very quickly how ridiculous this is, as Viva did. It was very thankful for him to do that. You know, all it would take.

And I've been saying this since, you know, the Ottawa stuff happened and be honest, all it's going to take is somebody that knows or somebody that has a brain works in their head, just an unbiased, honest, you know, person that's able to, you know, look at a situation and just kind of filter through like what's actually happening. And it'll be very readily apparent to anybody what this really is. So that's kind of why that's like where the confidence I've had has come from the whole time is like, I know where this is going to end. Like this can't be, you can't, you know, you can't put lipstick on a pig, you know what I mean? But you can't make it something that it's not. And it is what it is. And the more attention that we get from it is only going

to make it more obvious, which was the entire intent, you know, this latest media cycle, it was the entire intent for doing that. I just wanted to go, well, there's two reasons. You know, the guy, you know, Pierre was in town and I wanted to hear what he had to say, he's probably he's going to be the next prime minister. You know, it thought it would be an interesting chance to, you know, shake hands of the guy and look him in the eye and ask him a question and see what he's like in person. You know, why not?

I was in everything going on. It was, you know, fairly, fairly short drive. So why not? And but more importantly, I knew what the media would do. I knew what his opponents would do and people would jump all over. over it and we would get a ton of exposure and they would, you know, be forced to contend with this lie that they've been building forever. And it's just going to reopen the old wound of the humiliation of what it was what they did in Ottawa. And then they tried to bury it and cover it up.

And now like Viva accurately explained, they're just, it's like the okay hand sign from 4chan. Like you, you bought the lie and now you look ridiculous. So now you have to make it, you make people believe it or you're going to have to swallow the fact that you're a humiliating imbecile. So I don't, I don't know. They're going to try and do both, but I'm, you know, if they want to play a game of who can convince people the best, I'm welcome, I welcome that challenge because I'm, I'm pretty, I feel pretty good where I stand in reality with the truth. And they can play with fairy tales as much as they want. Well, and if people don't know what you're talking about, Jeremy, it was a simple picture of you and Pierre Poli of shaking hands and a pretty

vague description. I mean, if there needs to be, you know, like. Intentionally, yes. Yeah, yeah. And, and people lost their absolute shit about it. Like, it was, I was sitting there and like, this is, this is, this is quite wild, right? Like, this is, I knew they would. That's why I did it. I knew they would just to, because it exposes them for who they are. Like, why would you be like, so what? That's the adult thing to go. It was so what. Like he meets, you know, let's think about this for two seconds. A guy probably meets 400 people at every, like, every stop he goes, shakes hands with, there's hundreds of people in there. He shook hands with and talk to for a minute or two each, you know, and that's what he does.

It's his job, right? So, but I'm like, but they'll make a special issue to this. Like some of the, I guarantee statistically some of the people he's shaking hands with and spoken to were probably pedophiles and murderers and thieves. And, you know, he's probably done this 50,000 times. And like, I'm, I guarantee there is way, there is way worse people in those lines. But, you know, there's no media points in it for them. And that's what this is about.

It's not about the truth. It's about power. It's about political power. And they saw an opportunity to try and attack him and attack me. and, you know, I knew they would. So that's why I did it. And they, you know, again, continually, they just, they always buy it. You know, that's why I do things, you know, it's intentional like trolling.

I guess, you know, they call it. I, like the photo they love to use of me and the guys with like the masks on and the flag and some goes, oh, they're terrorists. Well, they were calling us terrorists before this. So I said, well, terrorists need to have a terrorist photo. So we make, it's the only photo that exists like that, by the way, because I took the photo and I edited it and I put it on my social media. And then the media took it and tried to use it as evidence.

and didn't refer to, oh, by the way, we took it from his Instagram page where he had a sarcastic caption about what it is. You know, so it's, and they do it every time. And they just, they keep going and go on. My intent was to humiliate them and to kind of, because they are liars at the end of the day. That's what kind of started this whole crusade years ago for me was that I don't like being lied to. I like being told things that are, you know, made to believe a false reality. And then I end up fighting a war somewhere for reasons that I don't understand for, which

turned out to be, you know, false anyway. and it's a complete waste of time and I get hurt and friends of mine are killed and all this kind of stuff so I really don't appreciate this so that's what started it so whenever I see an opportunity

to really make them, you know, shoot themselves in the foot or embarrass themselves, I take it. Are you at all, like you've become, I don't know,

is the most notorious man in Canada? I think so. I think. And I'm like, like, don't get me wrong. I don't know who's worse. I was thinking this yesterday. I was like,

lie about me. I was like, I think I might be, I just stated it because it's kind of like the Trump effect. It's like, you just start saying things and people just to believe it. I think I might be the most lied about man in Canada in the country. I don't think anybody lies about anyone more than they do about me. I mean, every article, everything out there. I'm like, not true, not true. made up, complete fabrication, extreme exaggeration, also not true. Conjecture, opinion piece. Like, it's crazy. It's like, oh, well, we can we can do this to this guy because I'm a, you know, heterosexual white guy with a family that was in the army and I'm, you know, a conservative-minded person. And, you know, I'm the ultimate, I'm perfect for them to attack. That's everything they hate, you know, everything about me. And if I can add one more thing, your show isn't rated PG, right? No. When you get going, I mean, I'd love to sit with Rachel Gilmore. I just would because I've, well, I somehow stumble. Well, who am I kidding? It gets force fed to you all the time. So all I see are these.

little clips of you and your rants. And I'm like, if you watch the show, that's just, that's just part of your stick. Like, that's what you do. Now, you make easy target,

though, because they literally come in, snip it out, post it. And nobody does any digging past that. Right. But it's an investment. Like long term,

that's how I play games to win long term. Like a, you know, you can score a punch today and win now, but what's it going to cost you, you know, in long term. Like you can spend a ton of money today,

but are you going to be broke next year? You're going to lose it. You don't I mean? Like I've learned at a young age to think, you know, ahead. And, you know, my dad taught me to play chess when I was like seven years old, six or nine, you know, did the same for my son. It's a good skill to have, you know, always think two moves ahead and they don't seem to think two minutes ahead.

You know, they just do things. And I'm like, well, on the body of work, everything I've done has been public. Everything I've ever done is on the internet. It's, you know, hours and endless. I had it up. It's about 45 straight days of, so if anybody wants to go watch everything I've ever done, book a book your calendar and you're going to need 45 straight days, a lot of red bulls. to just straight through and sit through it all.

And some of the, some of the fans and supporters of stuff have watched all of it. They've seen it all, which is, isn't that wild? It is. It's crazy to me. Like,

I hate listening to myself when I go back and, you know, I think I talk way too fast. I say like way too much. I just, I hear all the things I don't like about myself. So I just, I hate it.

So it's bizarre to me that anybody would, would sit and, but, you know, it, they like it. So, you know,

I guess, and it, you know, pays the bills and keeps the lights on and pays for the lawyers and so on. But, you know, like I said, it's, it's all there. And, you know, if you tell 10 people, you know, nine of them might condemn you, but one of them might go, wait a minute.

And if you got 100, then you got 10. If you got 1,000, you got 100. And eventually the scales will start to tip the other way because they're just in today to be outraged and gone tomorrow. But the people that care are going to do the work and they do. And now they're piling up to big numbers. And that's why they're really, they have to silence me because I'm talking about things they don't want people to hear about or know about.

Instead, they'd rather go, look at mean internet guys. He's mean. He's mean to poor Rachel. Don't listen to any other things he's talking about, you know, the military corruption or the attrition crisis or the health care crisis or the or the or the RCP cover up and Porta Peak or don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's bad. Don't listen to him. You know, that's, that's what's really going on here.

And as far as she's concerned, I had no idea who this woman was in my life until she started attacking me and lying about me and then emailed me a bunch of questions for a story. I said, okay, well, I'll, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. And I sat and I took about 90 minutes out of my day to craft her a very respectful response. I published it. So no one can, you know, it's, I'm all about transparency. And she chose to ignore that entirely, not publish the story, whatever it was she was working on. And then went right back to lying about me and my friends anyway. So she's not an innocent person.

She's not a good faith actor. She's a liar. It's not, it's different if someone just like, I'm sorry, I had the wrong impression. I added the wrong information. But when someone gives you the information and then you just decide you don't like it, so you're going to pretend it doesn't exist. That makes you, now you're a liar.

Now you're complicit. You've engaged in this, you're participating in a deliberate character assassination campaign of myself. And when I don't, I try not to attack, you know, innocent people like, like,

like, random people, like someone says something, you know, I, that's fine. I'll criticize public officials and stuff, because that's,

you know, that's, you know, what I'm doing. But if you, I have no problem to anybody, but if you start something with me, if you come and attack me, I'm coming for your eyes.

That's just, that's just how it is because you have to or otherwise people will just do it to you. But unfortunately, I think it, you know, people like to, it's, it's turned into a lot of quite the size of a war, but I've got a lot of patience and I've got a lot of energy to do this. So I'm fighting with 20 or 30 people at any given time. And I mean, you know, news anchors and journalists and other, you know, alternative personalities and their fans and their stalkers.

And I've got people taking pictures of our house and threatening our families and calling our homes and vandalizing our property and following us around and trying to find out where my, you know, relatives work and where they live and if they can get them fired and, you know, calling the cops and sending, you know, cops to our house and saying there's, you know, people in danger here and, you know, all this. And none of it's true. But this is just what we deal with on a daily basis as a result of, you know, me talking. That's never the story. It's a mean internet man, shook hands with mean conservative man and Nazis are taking over. It's so childish and asinine that like I just, this is all I know how to do to try and get it into people's, you know,

at least they're talking about it now. And even if 80% of them stick to the mainstream narrative of nonsense, that's 20% of them. That's a lot of new people that had no idea. And now they do. And we're just going to keep building this over time until it's just self-evident. And I've had, you know, the daglund.org website explains everything, explains the whole thing. And they're open. They call, oh, you're white supremacists and they're neo-Nazis.

Tons of people in the community are not white. Tons of them. Most of the people, most if not, not all of them, but the overwhelming majority of the people I have the biggest problems with are white people. All right. Like the prime minister is, is not a black man. You know what I mean?

The people running the RCMP are not Sikh Indians. They're not, this is nothing to do with that. This is just their what they, what they try to do to deter people from listening to you, but they've done it to everybody. Who have they not called it, you know,

some kind of racist or fascist or, you know, it's lost all meaning now, which is, you know, sad. It's, uh,

meat words don't seem to mean anything anymore. It's just, emotional fighting back and forth. I was curious about, you know, I got to meet a lot of people in Ottawa. One of them was not you. That was, that was, you know. Yeah, we never, we never did connect there, didn't we? We never, we never did connect.

It was so crazy. It was like, I was watching this documentary. It's real popular. The Woodstock one, but not Woodstock 99, a big disaster. I was just watching that. And I was like, it was, well, it was better than Woodstock because it wasn't as horrible. And it was the state that ruined it in the end. But it was like freedom stock.

It was like everybody who was involved, everyone was there. It was a great vibe. Everyone was having a great time. It was super positive. It was super healing and, and patriotic and wonderful. And it was all just Canadian flags. It was just,

it was the best representation of the Canadian culture and spirit that I could imagine. It was, it was life changing for most people that went there and like the people would talk about Woodstock. It's like, you don't get it from seeing it on TV. Like you had to be there to understand how important, how crazy it really was and how,

you know, impactful it really was and it was the same kind of thing and there was just so much going on. I mean, there was no time to, I don't think I sat still for three weeks. It was crazy. I was going to, you know, you talk about the Canadian flags. The flags were super cool. You know, they picked out the one Nazi flag or whatever and made a big story about it. I thought it was super cool was out here in the West. We have a view of Quebec. And I was there the bright and early morning and they came rolling in at like one hour. am and all the Quebec truckers and and then the preceding days with the, you know, the Florida Lee

flying everywhere and a bunch of different First Nation flags and then, of course, Canada and then, of course, every province. I've never seen Canada that United. I've, you know, coming from a hockey background, the only thing I have to relate to it, because a lot of people bring up Woodstock, but from a hockey standpoint is like Sidney Crosby scoring the goal and the goal. That's what it was. When it felt like we were all on the same team, finally, you know,

Like you look around like everybody here is on the same. We're all a family and we'll all take care of each other. And it's like the community. That's what national pride. Like that's the feeling that everyone should carry with them all the time. You should be able to walk down the street of a Canadian city anywhere and feel at home and feel welcome. And, you know, everybody's where did that go? We used to have something like that and it's turned into something else now because these

maniacs in power and these people like Gilmore and these other ones are more interested in, they don't make people feel good. They make them feel afraid and anxious and bad. and angry and like that's your only purpose in the world is to foment uh negative negative things like you're really we don't need people like that like everything you do is is is detrimental you're not informing people you're a propagandist like you have no value the thing and it's like uh you know it's it's a lot of the people there if they just watch you know mainstream news it's it's worse than knowing nothing because the things you know aren't even true it's i would rather

them have absolutely no idea what's going on rather than have to deprogram all of these lies and this craziness. So they're at like, you know, they're at a disadvantage of starting in a negative. And, and the same people, they took what was,

like you said, it was a great, amazing Canadian moment and a cultural, like watershed like, you know, second wind of a nation with what that was. And they, and they,

you know, shit all over it and tried to call it, you know, an occupation of terrorists and white supremacists and all this stuff. And the, and the guy with the Nazi flag, I found the story on this guy. I don't want to say too much,

because I don't want him to get, you know, fucked around. The guy, his intention was trying to say that the government is, this is a Nazi country now. Yeah. Like, I understand his intent.

Obviously, it was bad optics and he should have known. Like someone should have said, I get what you're coming. I get what you're trying to say. This is a terrible idea. What you should have done was gotten a maybe a liberal party flag and painted a swastika on it.

You know, that could have got the point across, but they all get real sensitive about the message is, I feel as though these people are becoming an authoritarian, tyrannical regime, which is true. And they proved it in Ottawa when they, They stole bank accounts.

They, you know, beat people, you know, indiscriminately trampled them with horses, did all these, you know, crazy things and shut down businesses. I think they seized 24% of the trucks or something like, seized their businesses, took their licenses, took all like that. These are tyrannical measures that dictators and things do to crush dissent. So he would have, you know, you're right to think that. If you think this is a tyrannical government, you're, you're completely correct. But, you know, it's just it's people aren't politically.

educated, I guess, or aware. Just the optics, right? Yeah. Yeah, they don't think that how that's going to look or how that's going to be into it or how the media. You take one picture and you say that's the entire what's happening there. And then, you know, if you're not really paying attention, all you see is saying, oh, God, what are they doing there? The crazy thing, you know, I keep saying is along the way to Ottawa.

And then in Ottawa, I just didn't see. CBC anywhere. And the amount of people standing out minus 30 weather waving a Canadian flag. I've to this day never seen anything quite like that. They showed their face. You know, I've been saying that for years. Like you have to, when you're dealing with, you know, tyrants and bullies and people like that, you have to force them to act, you know, take the mask off and be who they are. Because that way everyone will see them for what they are. And any, any sense of like all CBC is just trying to, you know, play the middle or that's all gone. they intentionally ignored all that stuff and they would do things like they have 5,000 people over here and, you know, maybe a dozen or two stragglers over here.

They'd set the camera up facing that way and infer that that is that is what's happening downtown. There's a couple dozen people. There's not 5,000 people. There's not 25,000 people. There's not 50 or 100,000 people as big as it got in Ottawa. They would go to the very end of it and edge of it and try and frame it as though it was, you know, nothing. They're lying on purpose. And when the fifth estate called me for an interview, I laughed in their face.

I made fun of Gillian Finley on the phone for about an hour because I knew. what she was, I could tell immediately by the line of questioning that she's just bad faith actor. She's just trying to make us look bad. And she did, she did that very well with Pat King, who, who released the full interview after he got out of jail, which was much different than the one that was on TV. Not surprising. You know, I felt really bad for the guy that he, that he didn't, he fell for the trap, essentially. He should have just did what I didn't, told him to, you know, F off. I'm not participating.

And all that she got out of that whole thing was a clip of me saying, I don't respect you as a media organization. You're a propagandist. And I'm not talking to you. Like, you know, why would I do that? They use the footage of which they don't even, you know, admit happened of, of the event where the police, you know, cavalry unit. These are Clydesdale horses that are bred for warfare. That's where they come from for war to trample people to death. That's their purpose.

Ran over a bunch of people. And they cut it right before the horse made contact with anyone and ran over that elderly indigenous woman in the, in the mobility school or whatever she had. They cut it right then. The editor was like, that's good right there. So Jillian Finley knows. she's doing. And also on top of that, I'm the guy that released the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the group chat, uh, photos of the screenshot of the RCP members, not only confirming that it happened,

oh, yeah, there was never any CBC coverage of that either. The RC and P, very quietly said, oh, yeah, we're going to look into it. Uh, yeah. That was leaked to me by another police officer. And I said, you know, I'm going to That was the end of that. You've got the state police force openly, happily bragging about, you know, harming their own citizens and I can't wait to do more of it. And they're up there drinking in the Chateau Loria, eating gourmet meals on the taxpayers dime while they're beating citizens.

That's the story, Jillian. The story is not mean internet man says mean words. The story is the state is beating its citizens for peacefully protesting on their money. And you're lying for them. That's the story. You're a liar. So, you know,

these people, they see out of context clips of me, you know, you know, doing whatever. I do that on purpose. It's not what I'm like all the time. But sometimes,

you know, it's kind of like, you know, I don't want to say it's an art, but it's like I try to like ride the waves of certain kind of emotional, like once I feel like I've got it, I'm going for it because it gets a message across to people that otherwise wouldn't resonate.

If I just sat here calmly and was like, oh, you know, it's kind of bad, you guys. Like no one, you know, it doesn't go anywhere.

The reason it's resonating is because like, whoa, you know, this guy's losing his mind, you know? I'm like, well, yes, because you should. You should have like a righteous anger about these kinds of things. And it validates how a lot of other people are feeling when they see this kind of stuff

happen. And no one speaks for them. And they don't understand why these people are crazy. They're not crazy. They're just ignored them. And I'm saying what they're all thinking and saying. And we're all agreeing it. They may not like the way that I do it.

But a lot of people agree with what I'm saying. And they refuse to cover for them or they refuse to cover any of this stuff. And they cover them and protect these people. And people are getting hurt and killed. you know, they're committing suicide and having their lives ruined and all because of this bad information, the gas lighting and so on. So I don't feel bad, you know, uh, she was taking clips going, he said that, uh, he said, what I can't remember just a bunch of mean stuff about journalists and they don't deserve

empathy and they, you know, they, you know, we're better off without them all of stuff. And I said, yes and yes, that is what I said. And you think you got like, I put it out, this wasn't a secret recording. You're not Project Veritas like this is for public consumption. And a lot of people agree with that because you. you're the cause. I like to say that, sorry,

I'm just talking like a hundred miles an hour right now. But like if it's a, like, if it's a, like, if you're, or something like that, if you're the boss and you're like, I,

you know, I want this guy dead. So somebody goes over there and shoots him. Who's more responsible? Is it the, is it the trigger man or is it the mafia boss? Like, who goes to jail? Well,

it's the trigger man because if he doesn't pull the trigger, the guy's still alive. And it just remains a wish or a thought of the guy that, you know, ordered it because he didn't go do it himself. So if it wasn't for the media to gaslight and light all these people and do and cover these crimes of the RCMP and cover for the crimes of federal government and cover for all these other, you know, international everything that's going on, people would know.

If they'd done their job, we would all be much better informed and we wouldn't be in these situations. We wouldn't be fighting with each other nearly as much as we are. There wouldn't be all this political division and partisan fighting and none of this would be happening. So how did it happen? You know, the state instructed and, you know, this is what we're doing and the media just did it without their consent and participation, none of it was possible. So to me, they're the

mob trigger man. They just did it for their paycheck to get paid and please their boss and off they go. And then when the tables are turned, they go, wasn't me. He told me to do it. I'm innocent. You're not innocent. You're in fact, primarily guilty. You're most guilty. Yeah, the, the complicity, complicity, complicity. They're complicit. You're, you are complicitcy. We are all complicit. I don't know if there's a complicitation. Complicit. You know, I had Kit Carson on last week.

And he's the morning show host out in Vancouver or was. And him talking about it, just, you know, him talking about making fun of wearing a mask that he doesn't want to to an afternoon softball game and him getting shit on for that. And then from that point on, he's not allowed to talk about anything. Just hearing that. You're like, so everybody knows. I mean, at this point, if you're in the media industry, you know. They should. They should know.

Yeah, because, I mean, you don't have to be a rocket scientist by this point in time to, you're either just putting your head in the sand or you're completely ignoring it and turning away from it. And a lot of the, even the cops, the medical professionals, like, I talk to people all the time and they're like, it's really rapidly turning around. Like, people are getting pretty feeling pretty like, we got, we got screwed around. pretty bad here. So I mean, like I said, investing.

Like I know what's true and I know what isn't true. And there's no, it's like, you know, taking a chance on a company early. It's like you won't get rich right away, but maybe in the end,

you know, like people will, people want to play it safe and they'll, they'll get involved now like, you know, and again, Viva thing, like he was one of the first real big name,

you know, people are there to, to give me the opportunity to talk for myself. But people will wait until it seems as though it's safe to do so. They're not going to get burned down by it. And then they will flood in. Well, look at all the politicians that came out after the combo, right? And started talking openly and jumped on.

Yeah. That's a big criticism of Pierre and the CPC because it's like, and it is. It's a moral criticism and an ethical thing, but because they're playing politics and not playing leadership, it's a different game. They're like, even if they agree with it, they go, well, we're going to see where this lands first. We'll see, we'll see where the public is with it. And then it's like surfing, right?

They want to get on top of the wave as it's going. coming in and make sure that they're going in the way they want to go. It's like, okay, public sentiment is this. We've done the polling. People are behind it. Oh, okay. Yeah, we support it. Yeah, we support it now.

They're not going to come out early, you know, like somebody like Max Bernier, who is right away going, I don't care if it's popular or not. This is what's right. So that's what we're doing. Like, those are the people I trust. I trust somebody like that who's going to, who's going to take a chance on what he believes in because it's the right thing to do. And if it has negative consequences for him, then who cares.

That's, that's the lead. That's what leaders do, in my opinion. and that's somebody that's worth respecting. And then to a lesser degree, you know, the conservatives are like, well, we'll take your side, but only when it's safe to do so, you know, kind of a thing. And that's one of the reasons, it's one of the reasons, I don't know if she's going to win or not, but I mean, I'm watching here in Alberta, right? Obviously, Jason Kenny's stepping down.

We got a leadership raise happening. And Daniel Smith is one that has been on the show multiple, multiple times through all of COVID, talking about, you know, like they're going down a dark path. They should not do this. They should not do this. And so it'll be interesting to see because, you know, Maxime Bernier, certainly with the PPCs, he's really been outspoken from the very beginning in front of everything like do not do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, going across the country when it was you can't have gatherings of a certain size. He was having gatherings of a certain size. He bucked everything they said pretty much. Here in Alberta, Daniel Smith has been similar, obviously not the same. But it'll be interesting to see. if she wins or whoever wins in Alberta, if they continue that trend or if they go revert,

you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's people are fickle, you know, and they, well, people want what they want and it's difficult, you know, it's not as easy as it sounds, you know, especially like, so I have, I have some sympathy for, for the politicians because I understand what they have to do,

like what the job is and how it works. You can't just, uh, it's hard. It's hard to mesh like doing the right thing. And you know, you can't get anything done if you don't get elected, right? Which is the whole game. And if you're not elected, then nothing happens. And if you're going to, you know, lose to some evil person who tells everyone what they want to hear all the time. That's the lovely thing about Daniel Smith.

She was a radio host, right? She was an in politics at the time. So she got the criticism. She's the one that tried to save that kid from the bull or something. Was that her? No, that's a here. Leila here. Daniel Smith was a leader of the wild rose across the floor back.

in 2015. That's why a lot of rural Albertans distrust her right now. But through COVID and everything else, she lost her job or quit her job, I shouldn't say lost her job, for basically not towing the line. And she walked away from her radio gig and then when

all this stuff started to happen with Jason Kenny, she made it publicly known that she would run again if it came available. And so she's running right now, but wasn't in politics for the last, you know, last about seven years. But she does have a history in politics, you know, early on. And she's a fantastic orator is what she does well. You get her up on a debate stage. She does well at that. And she doesn't have the baggage as the last two years. She just, she doesn't have to, you know, I wasn't there. Actually, what I was doing was advocating a whole bunch of different things. I was talking to the Peter McCulles and the whoever else, you know,

advocating for some of what they were saying. And we should have been doing this. And so she gets to attack it from a light. that most politicians, if they're running, like, I mean, Pierre doesn't get to say that. He was, he was in government for the last two years as everything went down. A long time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's, that's the, that's what he's trying to avoid like from, I'm just speculating. I don't know the guy. I mean, I've just literally how, as much time as I know is on camera. Like, that's how much I've ever spent in a room with the guy. But I think they're trying to court the, you know, the, the, the protest vote, the PPC of like basically a million people. voted for them and they're all their platform on this election or in in in in pierres is very similar. They've they've they've lifted a lot of the same kind of points and in phrases and in target emotional cues the people they're appealing to they're trying to appeal to now is not just goes

beyond the regular kind of milk toast vanilla conservatives because that was never going to win. I don't know what they were thinking with the last couple of guys. Um, wow, there's theories, but um, this, this is their problem. I mean, it's going to be a landslide. Um, so I mean, there's people accused. me of trying to sabotage the guy. And I was like, he's brought in, like, I'm not even a conservative party member, right? I'm not going to vote in their leadership. Like, I don't really, you know, the guy's going to be the prime minister, in my opinion.

I don't think that's even stoppable at this point. I think he's probably unstoppable unless barring some kind of insane scandal or he dies suddenly of a heart attack as has been known to happen to people in now in the future and the new normal we live in where people that are young and healthy seemingly just drop dead. Beyond outside of that happening, he, he's 318,000 vote or a membership. New memberships he brought in. just by himself, right? So that's, I mean, that's, that's insane.

That's crazy. That's every other, every other contender combined doesn't even, I don't think, half of that or something, right? So, and he's going to take that easily. And he'll, I mean, put him up against anyone else. The other side has, just no, it's a massacre. Like, it's terrible. Like, I would almost just concede.

I would just give him the election for them at this point. Like, I don't even want to, I mean, think of the damage you could do with, of all the things they're sitting. on of all the, like, oh, well, didn't you take this? Mr. Polia, Mr. Polliam, didn't you take a picture with this outright extremists? We've got a photo of him, Mr. Polia. Well, it appears to me, the prime minister has taken photographs with several convicted pedophiles and terrorists.

And here he is pictured in a, in blackface, spending billions of dollars. Like, it's a mess. Like, there's nothing they can throw at him that he's not going to turn around and counterpunch the living hell out of them with. So I'm like, I don't know. I'm not worried about it. you know, we'll see what happens. Hopefully he sticks to, you know, what his claims are. And what I asked him, what I was curious about, because again, my opinion, I think that the problem, we have these problems is because

the media has lied to people. And everyone's got a very distorted, not everyone, but a lot of people have very distorted view of reality and what's going on and who's a good person, who's a bad person. It's all a mess because of these people. And if that was the down, the disadvantage they have in Canada is also their advantage. They've got all the state taxpayer funded money. They don't have that in the US. Like CNN doesn't get paid by the taxpayer. So, you know, they have all this money. They've got all this is the big mainstream media, but they're on life support of the Canadian taxpayer. And if they just pull the plug, it's over. And I was like, that's what he mentioned he was looking at doing. So I asked him, I looked him in the eye like, is it, we doing this? Is that

what you're going to do? So that's the plan. You know, they talk about wielding power. And once you have it, you don't, you know, it's tough to do. Well, that's right. If you become in power and then you have the power of the CBC at your fingertips, are you going to, are you let it go? Well, like I know, I know what Jeremy's going to do. I certainly know what Sean's going to do, but is Pierre Poliev after fighting that beast to get in? Is he going to take that away? I think that he would be crazy not to. It's such a huge PR win and it's like his entire base wants this to so to not do it would be very hypocritical and, you know, it wouldn't be good. And it would ruin any kind of trust that he's, you know, trying to build and that kind of thing. And really,

they've done nothing but attack him the whole time anyway. Yeah, but it's like they're forced into this position because the public is so much more educated than they were two years ago. This probably wouldn't have been a topic two years ago, but now so many people have been affected by what they've known to see as a complete lie by not just CBC, by global news, by CTV, by a post millennial, by the national post, by everybody that's taken the daddy government money has just done nothing but lie their face off and obfuscate and suppress things. And everybody knows it.

So now he's in a position where it's like we're all, it's like we're all standing around. Okay. It's it's execution time in the electric chair. And you're like, yeah, I just don't feel like pulling it anymore. Like, oh, no, you're like, this is happening. All right. One way or another. Like we all, this all needs to.

We all know it has to happen. So he's kind of forced to. I want to, I want to ask about a different news source because I can't remember, I can't remember if it was on your, your recent show or if it was on Viva. So you have to remind me. I can't remember where I heard it, but I wrote it down. And it was about Rebel News, taking your entire story and then never publishing it. And I found, I found that like shocking.

I was like, really? And then it goes back to Ottawa. That, that's, you mind shedding a little light on that? Well, it's the guilt by association game. They like to play that one a lot. So they didn't want to, they didn't want to publish what you talked about because of who you are. I think so. I think there's a lot of, they don't want to draw any attention because I'm not, I'm not helping any of them.

I'm not helping anyone, really, any of the establishment. Like, I'm not, if I was like super hardline conservative and like palatable and marketable to, you know what I mean? Like they would probably, I would have had a, you know, I would have been picked up and recruited a long time ago by one by some of these people. But I have a tendency to just swing in anything I think is is not, is not good. And, you know, they're, they're scared. So there's even something like that.

Like, uh, I've, I've, notice that. So like Rebel News, for example, I did a, for almost two weeks after this all, all this stuff happened, they found, you know, the coots patches and all that, which were like homemade by some guy who I don't even know has nothing to do with me at all. They found, and then they, then they learned of the whole, the whole, the whole daygalon story, the emergency act, the whole, and he was, blew his mind. He didn't see any of these clips. I said about the senators in the House of Commons and the TSS report and all of the things, what the safety minister's saying on the news and all of the stuff blew his mind.

And we worked on this for 10, 12 days. And then the day before the interview, we're supposed to have a whole hour segment. He was going to do a whole thing. They went, oh, you know, something came up. We can't do it. Sorry. Never heard from them again. And then just recently they ran with the headline like, oh, Pierre has shaken hands with who.

And thousands of people piled into their live stream to hear what they had to say about it. And they didn't mention it once. It was clickbait. And they banned anyone from their live stream that mentioned me or said the word daigalon or anything. Ban them all. Censor them all. Who the hell did I ask about? I thought I asked about Rebel News.

Isn't that what I asked? maybe is that what i don't know that's what does it that rate there is like troubling isn't it yes yes it is like why why wouldn't they so they're you know there's a reason like he doesn't like me really yeah yeah he does he does uh he does what's good for him i think i think their main market is is right wing outrage so they they'll deliberate i've noticed them do this like uh so when uh james top was in ottawa and they had the uh um you know the thing there back in was it july I have the time of suffered, whenever that was recently over the summer. And the end of June.

End of June is when he arrived. And they had, uh, there was some arrests that were made. And they took some footage of the last 20 seconds of it or 30 seconds of some guy screaming like a big baby on the ground. You know, there's cops like, hold them. And they're like, oh, they're Trudeau's thugs are attacking people. And like that's not what happened. Like, again, like, if it's true, it's true. Like that stuff I published on the WhatsApp, like those cops were pieces of shit.

These guys were doing their job. These, the people they were arresting were. antagonizing people and assaulting people and acting. And then eventually it was like, okay, that's enough. And then they tried to grab hold of this woman who was doing these things and was just mouthing off to be all day, deliberately trying to start fights. They grab her and then the boyfriend gets involved in another guy and it just becomes a scuffle. And, you know, and it's like you're getting arrested.

Get her. I've been arrested twice now. Just get arrested. Just say, okay, put your hands behind your back. Follow the instructions. Get the car. You decided to start throwing punches and pushing people. You made this into a circus, right?

cops don't just attack you. I mean, maybe they would sometimes, but I mean, you're not making any better for yourself. But that was the full video was out there. They know that. But they know that they know that conservative Canadians want that. Yeah, you know, the thugs, you know, the prime minister's thugs. And send us money. You can donate to Rebel News here at the bottom.

You can send us $50 and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's, you know, it's disingenuous and it's like deliberately misrepresenting the situation so you can make money. I mean, I've noticed them do that way more than once and that they won't even talk about this and they totally passed up and I tried to talk to them about it. I tried to, I messaged a whole ton of people and nobody wanted to touch it. And now, well, the first, you know, person that of any, you know, consequence it would was Viva Fry. So thanks to him for doing that. At least he stuck his neck out. And I was like, you're going to, you're going to a lot of hate for this. But he's like, that's fine. I don't care. Well, and Sean Newman now,

I guess. How you? Yeah, you're going to go down next. As soon as you published this, or CIS is going to be at your house. Tell us where he told you where he hid the bombs, you know, like that's another and that's been going on like I'm I I'm just kind of like I was just made this way in the military where you just don't complain you try not to complain like I know I complain a lot but about things that are really bothered you just not supposed to because it just brings everybody else down and it you know what I mean but at some point um it's it's it's getting to the point now where I think people shouldn't understand what's happening like I have uh CIS has been investigating me for maybe a year the air

I've been a person of interest in Saskatchewan for a year before I was even arrested for no no one knows why. And the Saskatoon Police and the York Regional Police Organized Crime Division, I've never even been there. They're all colluding to, you know, on me, because I'm a terrorist apparently, despite there's no evidence. There's nothing to suggest that that's true. But that's what's going on. And you've got CIS agents interviewing nearly 100 people that I'm aware of that just that I've been told it, like 80, 90 people, different people have said, yeah, CIS is at my house. about you because I listened to your podcast or I've sent you money or I, you know, appeared on, you know, there's like little kind of after party shows they call it like like this where there's

like five or six people can just try and show up and talk and say their peace and hang out kind of stuff and ceases is showing up at their house, wanting to know what they're up to, digging into their lives and, you know, kind of intimidating is like, well, your wife could lose her job, you know, saying stuff like this and showing up with their work unannounced, you know, multiple times harassing them, calling them and it's going to go, well, you better talk to us or else. I'm sorry. What is this for? I just say things on the internet and you've decided that I'm Osama bin Laden.

And from what I can tell from the legal documents that my lawyers and I have, you've spent tens of millions of dollars investigating me for political reasons. That's a big story. That's a big problem. Not just because it's me. If that happened to anyone in this country, that would be insane. And it is happening to me. And it is happening to the people around me.

And worse than that, we only have a limited amount of these people of these, you know, supposedly these experts in counterterrorism and security, keeping us, you know, safe from foreign infiltration, subversion terrorism, you know, criminal gangs, organizations, the Yakuza, the triad mafia, all this kinds of stuff. This is what they're supposed to be looking at. And they're not because they're running around chasing this. They're looking for, you know, the vice emperor of Diagallon, which is a goat figurine with a, you know, who time travels and, you know, all of it. Like, it's readily apparent that this is, you know, they don't care because it's politically motivated. So they're willing to put the entire nation in danger to serve a

political agenda. So are there Chinese and Russian agents? So there was a report from somebody in CESA saying China has infiltrated our government at every level, provincial, federal, provincial and municipal. That's, we're not, we're not going to report or talk about that because internet man. Like people like what's going to happen next? What happens, you know, somebody gets killed or or something, something takes place. Like, you weren't doing your job.

You were asleep at the wheel. You were chasing me and my meme country around when you should have been watching the ship. And instead you crash it into, crash it into the iceberg. And you're mad at me. I'm not, I didn't,

sorry, it's not my job to do these kinds of things. My job is to sit here and, you know, shoot my mouth off and, you know, entertain people and give them my two cents. If they don't like it,

they can turn it off. If they do like it, they can turn it on. And if they want to help me, they can send me $10. It's free. It's always been free. That's all that's

going on here, but because evidently it's so effective that needs to be, needs to be silenced and dealt with like they're doing to basically everybody else around the world right now where it's just going around, you know, knocking down nails. Well, I think I've said this story once before, but Roosevelt back in the 30s did fireside chats. And I didn't quite catch the term when it was first brought up to me a couple of years ago, but somehow I stumbled back on it. And I read up on it and he did that because they were going through, you know, banking collapse, throat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he found that the papers were corrupt and they wouldn't spread his message if he tried.

And so he went to what would have been a newer age format in the radio and sat down and has these, you know, monologues where he talks to the American people about what's actually. happening. And one of the things that podcasts or, you know, live streams, that type of thing do is it gives it right to the people to hear firsthand. And I keep saying this, people aren't dumb. Like, it doesn't matter what class you're in, they're pretty in tune with what's going on. And they can watch several different shows. They can go watch Jeremy on his home base. They can go watch them on Now Viva Frey or wherever else,

you know, Drew Weatherheads, a buddy of mine. the social disorder, right? They can go find out for multiple sources. I mix you guys up. When you text me, I try to text you back and I text it. It's like, I don't know why. I think probably met you guys both run the same time. So I'm like in my head, I'm like, which, okay, which one?

Yeah, I don't know. Well, and you just go, people aren't dumb. We get treated like we're dumb. We get treated like we can't listen to something wild and go, yeah, that's completely bullshit. Or I like that one point and move on. And so what they're trying to do. is, you know, they're trying to, here's the narrative.

This is what we want said. And nobody can listen to anything else, except what they don't realize is everybody's listening to everything else. Yeah. Yeah. I like to say we're being managed. Like, they're not, they're not informing you. They're not leading you.

They're not helping you. They're just managing you. They're managing your emotions and your opinions and your information so you act accordingly, like like cattle or something. Like you're there, your property. That's another reason why I'm angry. And it's like, I'm angry on behalf of not just myself, but so many other people. that you've treated us like idiots and talk to us like children.

Like we can't figure things out for ourselves and we, you know, we're incapable of, you know, seeing that you're lying to us. Like, that's really insulting to me when someone, um,

is like at least put the effort in. Like if you're going to lie and try to pull the wall over my eyes, at least make it fun, at least make it really tricky. Like, oh, we almost got me there. It's just bald face straight up complete nonsense.

Like you're not even, you don't even respect me enough to even try anymore. They're just, you know, out in the open nakedly just making stuff up. out of nothing with very low effort, very little effort. So it's like you don't even have the same kind of respect that you would, you would give to an enemy to at least, you know, which is a huge mistake.

It was a huge mistake. And now it's backfiring on them. Like you said, everybody knows. It's not a popular, you know, CBC's reach is what? Like I don't know where I'm at really, but another year or two. I don't know where the numbers are. I mean, Jillian family was giving me. He's like, well, I have a lot more, you know, a lot big more reach.

your Facebook page. I was like, I've been banned off of Facebook, Jillian, and actually, according to this, I've got a few

million views over the last year or so. So I don't know how many you have, but I don't know if that's true, actually, Jillian. And that's just me. And there's dozens of people doing the same thing that I'm doing.

So you're losing really badly. No one trusts you. No one believes you. And everything you do just makes it worse. And so hopefully I would like to see that. If hopefully, you know, Pierre gets in and does that.

That would be a death blow, it'd be the end of them. So they've only got two options. Well, they have two options. They stick to it and they sink. Or maybe they get propped up by a little bit or they have to change the tune because they become a private organization again that has to, I don't know, do journalism. It has to be competitive.

And how do you compete? Like, well, where's the money going? Where's the market going? It's like, well, people want to hear real things. They don't want to hear lies. They don't want to hear, you know, political agenda. They want to hear, you know, what's going on and how people are really thinking and feeling about things.

So they're going to have to either get in the game and compete with that. because it's evolved now. It's a different world. And people, you know, it's, it's a whole other battlefield now. Like, it's not the 80s and 90s and too. Like, I figured that out a few years ago. I was sitting around watching, you know, kind of stuff like this. And it dawned on me that, you know, Paul Watson is.

Paul Joseph Watson. No, I can't say I do. Imagine my shock. He's got the map behind them and he's always doing these short, you know, video. I'm sure you've seen him. But I was looking at his numbers and stuff. I was like, this guy is bigger than CNN. His reach, this guy in his loft with his mask.

map is bigger than CNN. It's like we've invented a weapon that, you know, disables everything they have. It's like the invention of the Roman, you know, short sword. It's like, well, that's it. You know, we can't fight this, you know, because even a hundred of these guys, that's like a hundred enemy CNNs.

Like you can't, you know, what are we supposed to do to this? We can't fight that. So it's like, yeah, you're going to have to either tell the truth or die. Like, that's all you flat. So, or come on. up with a way more, I don't know what are they going to hold guns to people's heads. Like that's not feasible either because you're going to rule by force. You need, I mean, in America, you need an army of a billion soldiers all the time to make sure

everybody's doing what they're supposed to do. And that would, I mean, that would be war and the attrition rate. It forcing people to do it is not possible. That's why they do it this way. Why they, why it's so. That's where the war is. If they marched, I've said this for a long time, if they marched an army into Alberta, let's just say, it would snap how many people out of it, like, immediately.

It'd be so, like, shocking. Oh, yeah. They'd be like that. It'd be the worst thing they could do. Instantaneously. So by I continue to try to play this game, you know, their thought is nobody's catching on. Meanwhile, the ship is, you know, I just, you, I think of the meme with the dog in the house, it's fine.

It's fine. It's the entire thing's on fire. That's, that's where, that to me is where a lot of, uh, the corporate media is at. That's, that's pretty much where it's at. Yeah. Everything is burning. It's good. they're in complete denial.

I watched Brian Stelter's departure from CNN with, I mean, you see that? He was talking about how we have to tell the truth and make sure that people don't. It was the most, you know, the lack of self-awareness was painful to watch. It was, it was insane.

I'm like, does he really believe? And I think he does. I think they really do. They're so wrapped up in the ideas of themselves that they think that, uh, you know, winning is the priority.

Like it's not about telling the truth or, or, you know, doing what's right. It's about winning and, power and whatever that takes, that's fine. You can, the rest of it's really secondary to that. So like, we're not the same, you know, like, we're not the, these kinds of people are, you know,

I don't know how this happened. We'll probably slowly a little bit over time, over decades and stuff. It didn't just, you know, we didn't go from like a generally respectable. You could, you could generally, you know, pretty much trust whatever was being said to be pretty, pretty close as accurate as, you know, you could have expected to be. But now it, it didn't go from that to this overnight. It happened over, you know, many, many steps of people not, not stopping and checking for ID, if you know what I mean.

Like, we just fell asleep at the wheel and they just ran away with it, ran away at the shopping cart. And now it's going to have to, it has to be like this, right? That's why there's not, you know, I get criticism for that too. And it's like, oh, he's always swearing some that. Like the days of respectful discourse are over. You've treated us like idiots. You've stepped all over everything I care about. And I believe in.

You've tarnished the legacy of our soldiers. You've, I mean, what haven't you done? Like, it's, it's, you're lucky. That's, that's all it is. Like, this is just me talking. Like, you think, and if you can't handle this, you can't handle an angry guy, uh, expressing himself as discontent for the things, the very real horrible things that you've done.

You can't handle that. You need to, you need to get out of the way and sit down because this is, this is literally minimum use of force. This is the, this is step one, you know, and they, they're already, you know, basically begging for submission. And that's, this is where the war is now. They can't, they can't do it physically because, you know, for reasons we said, there's just too many, it's impossible.

You can't physically force all these people to live away. They don't want to. So they have to, they have to win, get them in here. They have to win the minds of everybody and convince them that, you know, this horrible stuff they want to do is for their own good. It's for their own safety. It's for whatever. And if they lose that, it's over.

Like, there's nowhere to go. Once they lose people, it's, it's, they're tough. What are they going to do? Well, you said on your last show. I think this is your last show, the mine virus. And I've got it. that down. I'm like, well, that's good. Because what you do and what a lot of people are doing, you know, whether it's on this side

or or pick your, pick your poison, it doesn't matter which way you go, whoever you listen to, they start exposing you into different ideas. It's hard to, well, you can't. You can't unsee that. Yep. Like you just can't. Yeah. So there's no. That's what Ottawa did for, for not only the people that were there. I just, I go, everybody knew somebody who went to Ottawa. and then watched a TV. I only watched one CBC thing. It fucked with my head so bad. I was just like,

this is, this is wild. Yeah, it wasn't a little off. It was way off. Yeah, it wasn't even close. Deliberately.

It's impossible to imagine they did it innocent. And when you, that's why I point to people's specific examples of how I know they're lying like that. Like, oh, the protesters attacked the cops and they was like, you have footage of them brutalizing people and you chose not to show it

on purpose. And you know that these group chat messages, of the cops admitting it, laughing about it, selling and writing it, you know, and hoping they get to do it again. You have it too. Well,

now they have, I send it to them. Now you have the, now you have the, you know, the court documents talking about, you know, how,

how did the emergencies act could put in and all that? And you have, you have, you have, you have, like, you could just see it.

Like, you don't even have to read it all. You just smells. You're like, this smells. You can feel it. You can feel it really turning. And everybody's kind of worried about,

I'm, I'm like, manifesting reality is a real thing. And I don't know, it's difficult to describe, but I've just kind of been like, I refuse to accept that this is how it's going to be. And I'm just like, I'm just going to fight you like a demon right to the end.

And try to inspire more people to do the same and believe that, you know, we can win and we are going to win and we will win. Like that is, that is the outcome. And if enough people buy into that and believe it and act accordingly and then start behaving in that manner and inspire it. And then it just runs away with itself.

And now you're seeing, you know, now we're here. So they try and pull this stuff. It was like, oh, they're going to lock us down in the fall. They're going to, like, let them try that. I don't think they're going to like what happens. They try, they're going to, you're going to have riots. You try this stuff. Everybody's, everybody's hip to this now.

Like, what are you going to do? You're going to have another. Is there going to be a new variance? Like all this stuff has gone away in the last six months. It was kind of like clockwork. There was running up, rolling out this plan they were doing. And then the trucker convoy happened through a wrench in the wheels of the whole machine, ground to a halt.

Now they're dealing with this. And they told everybody. there's terrorists everywhere. The Daigelon militia has taken over. Where are the arrests? Where's the raids? Where are the terrorists? Where is any?

It doesn't exist. They stop talking about it. And every other reason that was cited by the public safety minister's office for the Emergency Act was the rape threats, the arsons, the guns in the trucks. All of it was fake. Every single thing was proven to be inaccurate or completely untrue, except for one, which was me and the diagonal thing. So I'm like, and the public inquiry is next month, it's in three weeks.

And I may be testifying at that. And I can't wait. I would love to. They asked me if I wanted. I'm like, absolutely. And, you know, my lawyer is like, well, aren't you worried about, I was like, I didn't do anything. I didn't give anyone money.

I didn't take any money. I didn't organize anything. I wasn't in contact with anyone. I literally, you know, camped out at a spot with my buddies, went into the town, talked to people, took video, hung out, networked, you know, go to some parties and stuff here and there at nighttime, go home. And we did that for three weeks. Like there was nothing criminal.

Like there's nothing to find. And some cops would call on me when they're investigating. And like, you know, like so if we go through your phone, we're not going to find the messages between you and, you know, Pat King. And I'm like, I don't even know the guy. You know, no, you won't.

Go ahead. Go right ahead. Like, I'm fully aware of they're monitoring everything. I mean, CIS is basically, you know, that's supposed to be the CIA of Canada. Like, they have all kinds of crazy tools and things you can, like they're, they can watch anything they want.

again still not in jail still not you know nothing's they're going to have there's going to have to be a time where it's put up or shut up time and there's going to be a judge in a courtroom is like okay show us show us the evidence and what are they going to do I think it's I think they're in full-blown panic right now um which is scary because that you know desperate people do crazy things so I don't know um what's going to happen but again like you're seeing you're seeing doctors stepped down. A lot of them have disappeared. A lot of these people, a lot of these figureheads and personalities we've grown accustomed to in the last two years that are always on TV. Where'd they go? Where are they now? Oh, they've fled the country and stepped down and they're

not even living here anymore. That's interesting. The police chief, somebody mentioned the other day, slowly who took over and then quit after a week because probably they were like, yeah, this is what we're going to do. The only answer I can imagine is he looked at that plan and said, absolutely not. I'm not going to be the guy that held, was holding the keys when this went down. You, nope. So good on him and good for him and any of those other cops that pushed back against that because it was the right call. Because he was smart enough to know that like in two years from now, because it doesn't happen overnight in a year or two when these inquiries come out and these commissions come out and these investigations into what went on, I'm going to be guilty of something. I'm not, I'm not, nope, I'm not doing it.

So that's that's where we're at now. They got what they wanted immediately. But I kind of compared it to like the government had a stomach ache. So it shot itself in the belly. like how do you feel now? Like now you're going to bleed out, you know, you might make it, you might crawl to the wood line,

but you're just going to die in the woods. Like, what have you done? Um, you might have solved, you know, well, take that.

Like, okay, but now you have a much bigger problem and you have no means of solving it because you reacted emotionally because it appears as much as I wouldn't want to believe this, but again, they're chasing my meme country around the world. So who knows who's even mature or in charge of the brain anymore.

It appears that they just reacted emotionally. and was like, I don't care, just do it. And without any regard to the future consequences or how they were going to get away with this. It seems like because, I mean, where is the, it's been months of this now. And it's just going nowhere. So I think they're just going to hide the Homer Simpson approach where it's like,

I'm just going to hide under some coats and hope that somehow everything works out. So he was going to college with the nerds and like, but Simpson, the exam's tomorrow. What are you going to do, Mr. Simpson? He's like, during the exam. I'm going to hide under some coats and somehow hope that everything works out. Ah, man, I appreciate you hopping on.

I, uh, I truly do. I don't want to, I know you got things going on. I always end with, uh, I always end with, uh, the crude master final question. Heath McDonald's words. He said, if you're going to stand behind a cause that you think is right, then stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing? Jeremy stands behind.

Hmm. The truth, I guess, because that's what got us here. Because people weren't telling the truth. And they didn't have the, because it's not easy to do. It's not like an easy thing to face and accept. Like I had to kind of come to terms of this, things I thought about myself and my career and what I was doing. And like the world I built in my head was not correct.

And some of these, some of these realizations were difficult. and painful to accept, but they were true. And I could see them. You know, I could taste them. It was like, that, that is shit. So now I've got a, I've got a decision to make. Do I just ignore this and just kind of swallow it and pretend I didn't see or hear these things or do I, you know, act accordingly?

And if every, if we, if we were able to do that, we'd be in a much better place. Like, like, like, and that's why I have such a problem with the media and in the government and so on. Like people can't make good decisions about their life. They can't make well informed, you know, know, people are going to do what they're going to do. But if they make decisions that end up tragically or horribly or things go sideways because they, you know, your intelligence that you got from, from the media or from the state

was wildly inaccurate, you know, it's like telling a guy, telling guys in a, you know, in a combat deployment, like, oh, yeah, you can go this way. The route's clear. It's totally fine. And, you know, it's a massive ambush. Well, that was a huge mistake. Had we known that it was heavily populated with enemy forces, we wouldn't have gone in there. Oh, well, you know.

And it wasn't just once or twice. They've made this mistake repeatedly. So the consequences for what they what they've done has had, you know, hugely negative effects. So I think it's incredibly important to be, to be honest and try to get to the, to the root of what's going on.

Because otherwise, we're just, we're just playing games because you can't, it's like gravity or, you know, the science is settled. What about the science of the truth? Like there is no, you know, it depends on how you look at it.

No. It's on video, you know what I mean? Or we have it. There's that horse stepped on that woman. That happened. That is true. That is what happened. We saw it on video from five different angles.

You can't say it didn't happen. And that's where we get into the weeds with this, with this crazy, you know, partisan fighting and people haven't fake. I mean, it's just this Gilmore now. This just happened in the time of it on this, on this interview. Someone on Twitter is calling me a neo-Nazi. And my neo-Nazi wife shouldn't be allowed to, to food shop without. feeling uncomfortable. At no point should these people be allowed to exist as they do. Me, she names me, is an unsafe man. His wife is an unsafe woman. And blah, blah, blah,

it takes a pretty frail man to attack a woman in her family. And me and my friends are nothing but a bunch of frail neo-Nazis with mental illnesses. We should be committed and blah, blah, blah. And in response to Rachel Gilmore saying that someone who owns guns directed or directly threatened and harassed her family. So because of the lies she's been telling about me and the constantly talking about me, people now in the world think that that's, that's who has threatened her family. And they're just going to take it upon themselves to act accordingly because she doesn't tell the, do you see how your lies create more problems, Rachel? Do you see what happens when you just lie for your own convenience and you don't just, you know, say, whoops, I was wrong, my bad,

you know, you see what happens when you're a child and, you know, you choose yourself over others, bad things happen. You know, I had to learn that the hard way. So, yeah, there's anything, that anything that's, uh, I can stand behind as beneficial as that. Because if we don't, if we don't know what's going on around us, we can't fix anything. You know, we're walking around blind in the dark with a blindfold on and, you know, upside down and, you know, we're screwed. Well, on the other, the other lady that, uh, um, called out, uh, Rachel was Rupa, and I can't say her last name. Uh, super mania. Yeah. Thank you. Because I know, I've spoken to her. She's cool. Yeah. And following that story, you're like,

yeah. She literally. She literally. breaks that basically the mandate for vaccines on planes they didn't you know like there wasn't the health official going yeah we need this they want to space they want a distance and mass and I mean just wanted to punish people yeah straight up straight up and proved it and she was like I can't believe this isn't a bigger story and it's like I'm like now you see what I see what I'm saying Rupa you know how is this Dagon thing not a bigger story the entire the national security apparatus of Canada chased a meme around it and imposed martial law over my imagination.

That's an international embarrassment. That's caused for the CIA and MI6 and other countries to go, we can't take the Canadian seriously. Like they don't know what they're doing. Like that's a huge problem, right? And they're really mad at me. So I mean, we could have worked this out at any,

at the entire time. I was like, I'll talk to anybody anytime. CES just wants to come to my house that they never once tried to speak to me. Neither has anyone from the RCMP about this. No one. Not once. Not an email,

not a phone call, not a text message. They didn't even drive by my house and wave. Nothing. They know exactly where I am. then I'm exactly going to get a hold of me, but they'd rather intimidate and harass my friends and family because they're not trying to find the truth.

They're trying to find a way to put me in a cage and get my head on the wall as a trophy because that's what they're incentivized to do. So they're, you know, it's, it's crazy. Well, I appreciate you giving me some time, Jeremy. It's, uh, wow. I fall along. Well, I mean, what can I say?

Right. I'm just, I look at it like, I mean, Sean Newman is just Sean Newman. human, right? Like, I'm just one guy. Until you take the wrong picture with somebody, then you're... Well, sure. Tell you make the wrong jokes, then you're a terrorist or something, right? Well, who knows? Maybe by having, you know, this was the thing we talked about last time.

You know, you were mentioning last time on the show that, you know, now you're being listened to because you've had me, you know? And it's funny. I had Chris Barber on and that got my entire YouTube channel removed, like, instantly. Like, the email that came from that. And I was like, I literally had... Chris Barber on before the convoy left. And he's sitting on the roadside. And all my listeners have heard this way too many times.

But he's literally on the roadside talking about things. And I was like, this seems, hmm, okay. I'm like, where's all the money going? Because in my brain, I was like, I don't know. And then he was like, well, isn't that the truth? But at the time, he's like, actually, it's going to go to fuel and a couple of other things. And any extra is going to the veterans.

And I was like, wow, you guys have at least thought this out. Yeah. Okay. I think the government ended up seizing it. I don't know anybody knows where any of that money went in the end because they didn't get it. You know, the go fund me was seized or delete, you know what I mean?

I don't think it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, refunds. And then they raised the other one that gives and go and that like was even bigger than the original one shortly after it after the government shut that down. So then they're like, well,

we'll just steal your bank accounts. Like, I mean, that's, that's a big problem I have with, with the left and with their, because it's, you know,

what they perceive to be their guys doing it. And like, you fools. Like, they're not on anyone's team. They're on their own team. And it's us today. Something maybe will happen tomorrow.

We're down the road that you don't disagree with. And then your bank account will be seized. Do you want that? Do you want to live in a country where the government can just take your bank accounts and, you know, step on you with horses and bury evidence. Is this where you want to live? Like I don't care.

Well, they're doing it to the conservatives. No, no, no. They shouldn't be doing it to anyone ever. And that and we're allowing it. So that right there, your lack of ability to recognize how egregious and offense this is to our core beliefs of this Democratic nation proves. that you have absolutely nothing in this game at all except yourself and your ego and me, me, me. You're not, you know, you're not an adult. You're not a mature, you know, team player on

team Canada. You're on, you're on team ideological. You're on team, you know, global communism or whatever it is you want to call it. You're more loyal to that than the people that live here. These are your neighbors and, you know, community members and family members and, you know, and you're just sitting there watching this happen to them. And you're like, good, because the TV said they were Nazis. So the hell of them. How horrible. And the media did that. So I mean, yeah, I have no, I'm never going to apologize for anything I've said about the media ever. I think I would say a lot has come in complacency. A lot of people just, you know, sleep at the wheel, whatever you want to call it.

You know, and as time goes on and more people are affected, they start to pay attention. And as you start to pay attention, then you see it. And I mean, with you, uh, certainly cross and pass early on, and while just before leaving Ottawa and then since, it's certainly been on the radar and watching just how bizarre it continues to get. I mean, it's, it's, I don't know anymore. I don't know. I don't have the words to.

It's like a car crash, but it's the part of the car crash where it's like spinning through the air and bouncing on the road. Like it's going to get crazy. And before it finally comes to a rest in the side of a hill or something, you know, before this finally is finished, like it's, we're still smashing through the air and doors and windows are flying off from his glass smash and everywhere.

And that's, that's what we're going through right now. It seems like. I meant to ask, you know, one of the, uh, one of the last days you're in Ottawa,

I think, I've got to retrace my, my steps on my thoughts on this. It was, uh, bury me in, in my boots episode. A lot of people were,

were concerned for you, uh, whether you're, you know, where you were at. When you go, if you rewind the clock to where you were at that time, what was,

I don't know. What was going on? So that was the title of the stream. I remember that. And there was a song that my friend had made, Greg Arcade from Winnipeg had published to bury me with my boots on. And the message of the song and the message that I was trying to deliver that is like, this is what we believe in.

And this is what, you know, there's no force on earth that is going to dissuade us from this because this is what we believe in. This is what's right and that's what's wrong. And if you're like going to go all the way and say, well, we'll put you guys in jail. if we got to start killing you guys. Well, then, well, then so be it. Because that doesn't dissuade me. That reaffirms that we're, who would do that?

You know, who's using force on unarmed innocent civilians, except, you know, evil people who would do such a thing? So, and this is, oh, you know what, you guys are right. I'm wrong. Never mind. You're not tyrannical maniacs. You're really just misunderstood. I'm the bad guy.

Please trample my mother next. Then we'll all understand, you know, maybe you can shoot another female journalist to point blank range with. the tear gas grenade. I don't know. Maybe why not? Um, no, it's, it's like you have to, like you say, if you're going to stand behind something, stand behind it. And, you know, it's, uh, I for a long time suspected who these people were and then was very, very confident. And then Ottawa was like, you know, uh, you know, might as well branded it on a tombstone or something like that is who, this is who they are, you know, so if you're going to oppose anybody, it's, it's people that do

things like that. And there's, there's nothing they can do that's going to, like, I'm not, I'm not going to give up. Like, this isn't going to stop until I'm dead. If it's tomorrow. or if it's in 50 years, you know, hopefully, God willing, I'm an old man somewhere sitting on a whatever's left after the government's taking everything from me on a milk crate under a bridge. I'll still be, you know, laughing and making fun of them. There's no way to, there's no way out. Like I'm doing this to the end and a lot of us are. And it's like, if you want to, you want to prove us right and go all the way and act crazy,

then that's on you. You know, we aren't the ones, we aren't the ones hitting people with guns and trampling them with horses and closing bank accounts and intimidating people. And that's you. That's you guys doing that. So if you're going to fight something, you know, if you're going to fight it, fight, go all the way because it's not like, you can't just quit and go home. It's not a road. It's not a hockey game where you're like, ah, what's the big deal if you lose?

If we lose, you lose everything. Then we live like this. We live in a place where these people who can just control your life and dictate. And not just you. I think of, you know, my children, my oldest son is only eight years old. You know, what kind of world is he going to be in in 10 years? He's an adult in one decade. Look, where are we 10 years ago, 2012 to now?

What's 2032 going to look? like do I and what am I going to say to him if it's horrifying you know and it's like you're 18 now you got to get all these booster shots and you got to go through government mandated screening testing to find out what kind of job they're going to force you to have like in communist china because that's that's where we're at now here have your cricket sandwich and you know all these crazy ideas they have for us and you know why didn't you do it I can't I'm not going to be able to sit there and go wow I just kind of played video games the whole time yeah I wasn't really paying attention it was like I don't know what else I could have I did everything I could you know what I mean

I'll at least give them that. I'll at least give my boys and my daughter that that I didn't just sit here and let this happen without anybody saying anything about it. So if, you know, whatever it takes. Well, I appreciate you coming on and doing this. And while hopefully it sheds some light on for some people if they've never heard of you or if they have heard of you or if they've seen your name on, you know, everywhere. If they've heard of me statistically, it's likely negative. It's a very bad for now. Except, you know, it's funny when I put it out on Instagram that you were coming back on,

I had a whole bunch of messages saying I found Jeremy because of the first time he came on. So I don't know. I trust my audience. My audience is full of people. I say this and I'll continue to say it that are smarter than me, that do more research than me that are on the ball. They help me at time. Like my, I mean, I need anything.

It's done. I'm like anybody like you know they've got kind of like you know there's all their good little community boards and group chats and stuff and I was like do you know where this is and they'll send me things and like instantly I don't it's like it's cool it is very cool and they you know find things for me and fix things for me and help me with it it's it's like a whole you know team of people that are helping me all the time so I mean I wouldn't be here without them either you know it takes it takes the village you know to do anything and the only reason I've made it this far and gotten as much done as I have is because of their they're you know tireless support um So I have to say thank you to them for that and not, you know, abandoning ship when things got weird. You know, some people, you know, gets a little sketchy. They take off. No, most of them didn't. Most of them stuck by me and most of them supported me no matter what the news said, no matter what these, you know, crazy stalkers and crazy, you know, people plant in fake story. Like, they were just like, well, you know, I don't believe it.

Like, thank you. You know what I mean? That's, I don't know what else to say. Like, I don't know what else I can do. So I can't quit, you know, like for these people alone, like for them to give me that much trust and support. I mean, I owe them alone. Well, I appreciate once again you hopping on and doing this. And I'm sure at some point here, we'll have you back on.

You know, it's long overdue at this point, but I appreciate you coming back on. Of course. Thanks a lot. Thanks for having me.