Shaun Newman Podcast - #308 - Ted Ryce

Episode Date: August 29, 2022

Ted's been a personal trainer for 23+ years & has worked with celebs along the way such as Robert Downey Jr. & Richard Branson. We discuss his early years losing a brother who was kidnapped and eventually killed, his thoughts behind training clients to live a healthier life & a few key ideas that have helped him along the way. SNP Presents: QDM & 2's. Get your tickets here: snp.ticketleap.com/snp-presents-qdm--222-minutes/ Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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This is Ted Rice and welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Ted Rice. So first off, Ted. Thanks for hopping on. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Excited to talk today. Well, I was just giving you kind of my personal story on how I stumbled into you.

You know, the last couple of years up here in the north has been difficult. This last winter was really difficult. And as a guy who likes being active and understands the importance of a morning routine and that type of thing, as a lot of those things fell apart, I just got into, you know, some darker places that I never thought I'd experience. And then, you know, you work your way out of it. And I stumbled upon your Twitter feed and started, you know, following along with some of the things you were saying.

And I was like, oh, man, yeah, I get a lot of this. But that's me. A ton of my audience is never going to heard of Ted Rice. And so I want to throw it over to you because for the average listener, who's just following along with me, I'd like you to introduce yourself and any of your backstory you want to go. There's no, you can go for as long as you want. and we'll start from there.

Cool. Well, a lot of people know me from the internet and from my days in Miami Beach. I was a personal trainer in Miami Beach for over 20 years, worked with Robert Downey Jr. Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, other celebrities, a lot of local entrepreneurs, restaurant tours, club owners. And I, but the way that. that I got into health and fitness, a lot of people don't know about. And it started when I was 19. I was in college. I wanted to study neuroscience and do something with the brain.

I wasn't quite sure at 19, but I was fascinated by neuroscience. And my brother disappeared. And we would later find out a few months later that he was kidnapped that day he went missing. He was murdered. And it became like a big story that could take up the entire podcast. But the point that I'm making by or I'd like to share with you by talking about that is that's how I got it into fitness. I bounced around from odd job to odd job. then finally ended up in Miami Beach somehow after going up and down Florida, met some people in the gym in the building that I was working in,

and they were helping people get in shape. And I was in there blowing off steam from a job that I really didn't like. I was collecting. I was working in receiverships and bankruptcies. I don't know quite. I don't know the details of it in the States, but I'm not sure how it works in Canada with properties and receivership and bankruptcy or if there's another name for it. But I was, I really didn't like my job. My boss was not nice. And I was like,

I got to get out of this. And I would go to the gym every day and lift weights to blow off steam. And I saw these guys in there. I never even heard of a personal trainer before. This is like 1999. And they were going to work in their tank top and warm up pants and the woman, there were two trainers. One was an Australian guy. The other was, I believe she was Colombian. And they went to work. They seemed like they were having a good time. And then I found out they made like $75 an hour.

And I was like, oh my gosh, I got a like, I can't stand what I do right now. And it's stressing me out. And I could be in the gym all day and help people get in better. And that's how I got started in this business. And now I've been in it for 23 years. I have a podcast. I don't do personal training anymore. Although I do some in-person retreats.

And yeah, I've never been more passionate about what I do. And I think there's never been more of a need for help around health because we have an obesity epidemic. And even with all the gyms, all the diet books, all the workouts, all the apps, all the podcasts, I got a podcast too, but people aren't taking action. And that's where I really focus. Like, how do you get a person not just the right strategies, but help them create the habits to make it so that they're not one of the statistics of, well, yeah, I lost 20 pounds. But then I gained it back. Okay, that was a lot.

And I want to focus on fitness, but before we get there, you bring up losing a brother. And I just want to, I don't know what, my audience probably just went, what? Anyways, I also went what when I first heard that? I got three older brothers. I got an older sister. And I just go, I'm just curious if you're open to talking about it, Ted. I look at it and I go, man, that must have been. To lose a brother or a sibling at any point in time in your life, whether it's from a car crash to cancer to whatever, to have them kidnapped and murdered is, well, it's tough even coming out of my mouth.

I assume that was a dark time in life. How the hell didn't you just fall off the rails? And I mean, maybe it was a sport. Well, I did fall off the rails. Oh, well. you know yeah and and listen right i know and i know and i get it and i want to i want to set the context here because i just made a joke and about something that you know most people would feel very uncomfortable joking about and the the thing is this what i didn't share in that little

sound bite when i dropped that bomb if you will uh about my brother's murder i was in my at the time. It became national news for in America. It was everyone in Miami knows about it. The person, the man who kidnapped my brother and murdered him, he was a sexual offender. It wasn't a registered one, but he, he raped my brother and murdered him while he was trying to escape. And was that a dark period of my life? I mean, again, I could take up the whole podcast talking about it. I was interviewed as a suspect when I was a 19 year old kid before they ended up finding this guy. You mean the police? You mean the police thought you did it? Well, they were trying to do what police do. They were trying to go through the process. And this was the

FBI. This wasn't like actually Metro Dade police were the ones who cracked the case. FBI didn't. They just caused me and my family and my friend who was involved. He was babysitting Jimmy that day. And like me and my friend were like the prime suspects, I guess. And it was just exhausting to deal with the FBI. And it was an extremely stressful time. I took lie detector tests. And yeah, eventually the FBI went away.

They weren't able to figure it out. It was super crazy. We had psychics calling in, giving like we were just open to whatever to find him and then um finally uh some of the police officers the metro day police officers in the homicide department they got a lead and this guy was living on someone's property and the woman's the woman tary shine house she had a gun in some jewelry miss And I don't want to go into this. I mean, there's, there's a, I can give you a video, a true crime story, FBI true crime story on YouTube that they even have someone playing me.

I didn't even know it existed. But just to finish the story to let you know how it happened, they went into, she went into the trailer that this man lived in on her property, searching for that gun and the missing jewelry. They ended up finding my brother's backpack in his closet. And my brother's backpack also had one of the missing children's posters that we posted everywhere in Miami. And so that led to his arrest and to his confession, to finding the body. And yeah, he was on death row for 20 years. He was executed. I attended that execution.

and I believe it was 2013. And so I never had the choice whether to talk about it. Because a lot of people, they may not feel comfortable talking about it. And that's cool. I never had the choice. I had cameras shoved in my face. I had to give a deposition. I had to give statements.

The guy tried to get out of it. But they ended up, I mean, it was just there's no way out of it. It's like, he had the backpack. led them to the body. I mean, they tried to do various things. But to make it, so I'll kind of stop there if you want to ask anything. But yeah, it was an extremely dark. 20, 20 years. I'm just, I guess I don't fully understand how the justice system totally works, but 20 years seems like a long ass time, isn't it? To be on death row. Yeah, I mean, it's, look, my dad's, my dad's, my. My dad passed away in 2020, but he was an attorney. So was my stepmom.

They could tell you about the justice system and my dad was an excellent attorney, although he was, what do you call it, labor attorney, not a criminal attorney or, you know, would deal with cases like that. But, yeah, man, I mean, you know, it's a complicated situation. some people don't believe in the death penalties, some people do. I feel better, I'll just say this, I feel better with having that guy gone. So I sleep well at night and I don't stress about that decision at all and I don't think I ever will. Yeah, fair. Well, I appreciate you sharing a bit more. Certainly you're probably a tired of talking about it, but two, you know, like it's,

it's not the easiest subject to to to delve into as you as you kind of mentioned there um i just you know for myself and the listener you talk about i'm like holy moly like that you know i obviously it's it's a dumb question on my part was it a dark time obviously it was a dark time more so i just um every person's life has these these moments you know uh good bad you know kind of just plain jane whatever and that's that's a moment Like that is beyond a moment. And I guess I find it like very curious about it because lots of people would never recover from that, Ted.

And you've done more than that, right? Like you've put it behind you. I don't know if that's the right way to say it. But you've moved on and you've created an incredible career for yourself. And I just am like, wow, that's like a life-defining moment in a very dark, bad way. And I don't mean to put it in any other. you know, position than just that. Yeah, well, I think you're, look, no apologies needed. It's a, it's a complicated story. And to be honest, when I was growing up, when I was like 10, 12,

there was another case that was very famous. I don't know if you or your listeners know, but John Walsh and Adam Walsh. John Walsh went on to start the America's Most Wanted series on television. If you remember that. And I grew up hearing about Adam Walsh and it was horrifying the story. But I was like, man, sucks for you guys. That's not my life. That's like not anything that could ever happen in my world or my family. And something very similar happened. So it's, it, I have been that person who was just, you know, I didn't make jokes about Adam Walsh, but I'm just trying to say like, you hear about it. And it's like, you can't relate. And you're not supposed to.

And I hope you never do. And nobody listening ever has to go through anything like that. But if I can make it relevant instead of just talking about a, I mean, I'm open to talking more about it if you want. But what I learn from that situation that I think everyone can learn from is this. and shit happens to us in life. Best case scenario, your life is amazing, but you will live long enough to see your parents die. Best case scenario. And it's supposed to be that way.

And more likely than not, you're also going to go through some tough things before that happens. Divorce, bankruptcy, COVID, whatever it is, right? And what I learned was this, we all have the ability to get stuck when those moments happen. And that one bad day can turn into a bad month, can turn into a bad year, can turn into a bad life. And that's probably where most people end up. And what I try to give people is another option. It's like you can move on from anything that's happened to you, the loss of a child,

the loss of, you know, cancer in the family, whatever it is. And there are, I think there's steps to it. There's steps that I did, but even more important, there's underlying principles that work for every person because we're all human beings. If you take someone and get them to do an hour cardio three or four or five times a week, that person is going to have repeatable results. Just like I could take you, I could take me. We're going to have maybe somewhat different results, but we're all going to have the same results. We're all going to get in better shape. Our circulatory is going to get stronger. Our heart's going to get stronger, right? And so what I've learned from that

dark period is like, number one, when those things happen, we could sum it up with one word, stress. Now, stress is sometimes stresses, hey, I had a really stressful day at work, but I got a lot done. Or it could be my brother was kidnapped and murdered and I lost complete faith in the world and didn't know what to do with my life when I was 19, which was my story. But it's stress. And the way we approach, the way we first become aware of the level of stress we're under, and then what we do to handle that stress is the key to having great relationships in your life, to succeeding in your life.

career and to certainly being in the best shape that you can be in. That's, um, I like how you put it there if, you know, one bad day can turn into a bad week and turn into a bad year. I can certainly attest for a lot of people, including myself, you know, I mentioned to before we started, the last two years up here has been tough. But I don't want to sit here and act like it's been, you know, uh, the, you know, um, the end of the world because the world is moving along, but it was stressful to use your word. But one of the things that, uh, that happened specifically to me is I got stuck in this,

this loop of like, I just couldn't break out of it, you know, and over and over and over. And then I read one of your posts, uh, probably two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I can't remember, you know, time frame. And it was the never missed twice rule. And I read it and it says, never missed two work. in a row, never eat two unhealthy meals in a row, never go to bed, late two nights in a row. Why? Because you start to build a habit of it. It's harder to break a habit than build it. And I read that and I went, oh, wait, that's, that's really good. And on top of that, it can work the opposite way. Now, it might

not work as quick, but if you start working out or it doesn't even have to be that, going for walks, like, I mean, you can make this as easy as hard as you want, but you start doing the opposite, which is implementing healthy little things into your life, and you start doing it where you don't, you know, and I don't know what the equation is, but you don't go two days without doing it, you know, to use the two day rule or the two never miss twice rule,

all of a sudden it'll start to, you know, it's like a train or something, you know, it takes a little while to get it fired up, but then you start moving. And once you start moving, geez, oh man. And then the positivity just snaps back in and away you go.

And that was something I took directly from, you implemented it immediately into my life, like immediately. I thought that was like super cool. Amazing to hear. Thanks so much. Like I put stuff out there. I'm like, I don't know if that is that helping anybody. But yeah, I really like that one.

And it's for the reason that you mentioned. People don't realize. People think, oh, I need to build an exercise habit. And for sure, you need to do that. but what you're really doing is you already have a habit. Maybe it, because it's not just a habit of like, oh, I brush my teeth. That's a habit. I twiddle my thumbs.

That's a habit when I'm nervous. No, habits are thought patterns as well. Right. So you can have a habit of when you step on the scale and it doesn't show you the number that you want, you get really upset. Or if you see something on social media, you can be having a good day. you see something on social media that you don't like on Twitter because I'm, you know, like you,

I'm on Twitter all the time. And you get really, you get stuck on it and start leaving comments and, and just the end result is you spend a lot of time doing something that doesn't really have any ROI for you. It doesn't have a, it doesn't help you make more money, improve your health or have a better relationship with your wife or husband or with

your kids or with your friends. It doesn't do anything positive for you. But yet we get stuck in these. And I say that I get stuck in this stuff too. I'm better now right now than I have been in a long time. But, you know, we all get stuck in these patterns. And it's this interesting dichotomy with like, oh, I'm Ted, you're Sean. Oh, let's talk about complex ideas.

And we can have these conversations that are very high level. and then if you look at our behavior, we're just like, you know, saying nasty stuff online. Well, hopefully that's not me and that's not you. I,

you know, but like we find ourselves getting stuck with these, these silly patterns of behavior that we know aren't the best for us, but yet it's so easy for it to happen. Yeah, you bring up brushing teeth.

And I've, I was, I wrote this the other day. This is, once again a couple weeks ago, but I wrote, how do you implement healthy things into your life like brushing teeth? Because I don't know about yourself, but your teeth aren't falling out.

So I assume you're like me. If you miss a day of brushing your teeth, you feel it. It's like, oh, like I just need a tooth. You will drive across town to grab a toothbrush, a thing of toothpaste,

just to brush your teeth. And the feeling is like unbelievable. I think anyone listening to this, for the most part, can just like visualize that, almost feel it, right? could almost taste that, like sensation of like, oh, man, my teeth feel so much better, right? And I know when you get, you know, when I was playing college hockey, I used to run every day. And if you missed

a day, you felt that. That was kind of like the brushing teeth effect. But if you've never felt that or you're so far away from that, how do you build back up to that effect? Is that a time frame is that I don't know amount of effort. I actually don't know. Yeah. It's a fantastic question. I love this, this analogy. And a couple things here. Number one, how do we all start brushing our teeth or our parents, in most cases that I know, at least. Our parents did it. It encouraged us to not even encourage us. They told us to do it. Go brush your teeth. No, but I don't want to. Cool. Do it anyway. It's a unacceptable for you not to brush your teeth and have some stank breath.

Nobody wants to breathe that in when they're talking to you, right? So we end up doing it. And it just becomes a thing. And so most of our parents didn't teach us how to exercise. So they taught us how to dress, how to shower, how to, you know, do our homework. You know, they stayed on us with those things, how to ride a bike. But exercise was something that most parents, at least in the stories that I've heard, didn't encourage or, you know, like, like enforce.

Or maybe even feel comfortable teaching. Or maybe even feel comfortable teaching. And to be honest, they didn't have to. Obesity is a new, it's a new problem. There's always been obesity from what the record show, but it's really a recent thing. So our parents didn't have to do it. People in the nine like my dad was born in 1942 or 43. He it wasn't a problem then.

Right. And even my grandparents, my my granddad lived to 92 and my grand mother lived to nine to 84. I mean, they were never overweight. Well, I mean, you know, maybe their body fat percentage wasn't the best. But they weren't like what people are now. So it's a new problem. So we're all growing up in a time where this shift has happened.

Our parents didn't teach us. We took, at least in the States, we took exercise out at school because it wasn't as important. Whole other, you know, conversation there. But the important part is the results that happened. And we're all, we're, it's an interesting period of time. It's a good time to be in the business that I'm in, to be honest. But in the future, it may not be so good because people get this. you know,

we'll be like dentists where you just go and get checkups instead of like needing someone every single week to help you build these habits. Now to go on to like to answer your question about how do we retrain ourselves or build a habit in the first place if we never built it initially. You have you played hockey. Me too. I've been in sports. I did fall out of the rhythm.

when I started growing my business because I didn't know how to balance the two. But something really important. And these are two nerdy concepts. I'm just going to throw them at you first. And we can talk about how they're important. But positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement. And what that positive reinforcement is, if you do something, it feels good. You do it again.

And negative reinforcement is if you do something, it feels bad. You don't do it again. And you gave a great example. of like, you know, when your teeth feel all nasty and filmy because you haven't brushed them in a while, then you brush them. You're like, oh, right? You're not worried about how your breath is. You feel cleaner in your teeth.

And so that's an example, positive reinforcement. Or if you're feeling bad and you go to the gym and let's say do a workout and a workout that's appropriate, and we can come back to that when we talk about the negative reinforcement. so it's appropriate for you, you end up feeling better walking out of the gym than when you walked in. And one of the problems is a lot of people have this all or nothing approach. So again, with the negative reinforcement thing, it's like, okay, I'm putting on weight, but it's not a problem. It's okay. I don't like what I'm seeing in the mirror.

I'm kind of disgusted by it, but it's not a problem. And then something happens. There's a moment where it's the negative reinforcement kicks in. It's just too painful and they've got to do something about it. And so what do they do? They go on a strict diet, start up exercise seven days a week, twice a day to get back in shape. The short game, the race. I think we've all been guilty of it.

We want, you know, you put on an extra 20. It doesn't matter. Whatever the number is for each individual person. or you fall out of, you know, whatever you were previously doing in life. Everybody wants to just snap a finger. They want instant results. We live in a world of instant gratification, right? And so when it comes to weight loss in particular, you want to snap your fingers and be

wherever you want to be. So people go to the diets because you can get really good results if you go to the extreme. The problem, at least I've found with the extremes, is for my lifestyle, having three young kids, having a wife, uh, wanting to, you know, do different things, eat different things, um, the extreme is only doable for a short period of time. And when you fall off an extreme, the opposite thing, you don't stay down there. You, you, like, rebound like a ricochet and you were just gone the opposite way because, you know, like, I don't know, but that's my personality.

And I found a lot of people are very similar. They just, you know, you want to get to where you want to go the fastest. Even you look at it. I like Fitbit. I love the 10,000 step concept. It was a good way of just showing me when I went before this life when I was working in the off field, how little I moved because I drove a lot. And I was like, oh, wow.

Okay. So you just start doing the 10,000 steps and that type of thing. And what does Fitbit have? Fitbit has the ability to be like, well, you want to lose weight? Okay. How hard do you? you want it to be. You want to be extreme? Okay, this is how many calories you got to put in your body. This is how far you got to walk, blah, blah, blah. Well, everybody goes for that. And then you

realize how tough it is to maintain that balance for the rest of your life. Because I think, and I hope I'm not, you know, I don't want to ramble too long, Ted, but one of the problems that I've had personally is instead of trying to go, okay, can I do this for five years, ten years, whatever the list is, but not like five days, you know, like can I maintain this? Because balance of life is happiness, right? Like finding a way to do something that creates that positivity, the reinforcement of that every single day, every single week. Now you start to look forward to it instead of like, I got to go to the gym, or I can't eat whatever, or whatever, you know, restrictions or whatever your lifestyle choice is.

If you don't enjoy it, then it's negatively reinforcing anyways. Yeah, and great. And I love hearing stories of like people and then, like what you shared and great use of like the idea right away. It's the pain of, the pain of being where you are and being out of shape, let's say, gets to be too much.

and then you start to exercise and you approach it extremely. And then that gets to be too painful so you quit. And you have to like what you do, right? If we can throw out the terms, although I really like talking about them so people understand them, it's like you have to positively reinforce what you do. I used to lift weights in a way that my muscles would feel good, but my joints felt really beat up. and I was I was like you know what I everyone tells me I look great and like I have the perfect body

and man when I sit down to to have a seat on the couch my knees feel like they're 90 like how am I going to keep this up and I got scared about it and I ended up having and what most people do when they have a situation like that they were just like well I've got to back off and you you you don't have to back off, but you have to change strategies. It can't be a strategy that beat you up and makes you feel bad. It's anything that makes you feel bad. It's not sustainable. Now, I want to put a little bit of context here because some of us, we might say, well, you know,

going for a walk makes me feel bad. But sitting on this couch and streaming some, you know, Apple TV or Disney Plus, or Netflix, that makes me feel good. And I would argue that, um, you know, that's kind of being stuck in your comfort zone. That's not really feeling bad doing we and I would say this, I don't want to do exercise. I want to. I'm not one of those fitness people who, you know, I think a lot of when, maybe when I was in my 20s, it's like, no, exercise is awesome. It's so great. It's, you know, it's like, no, I'd rather be building my business or sitting on my butt watching something fun or going to a restaurant, stuff in my face.

It's what I'd rather be doing. But we have to realize just like, you know, there's consequences to that. And not just consequences health-wise when you get too much body fat and end up with diabetes, or cancer or heart disease. But it costs you in terms of how you feel every day. day. And so, so the idea is you got to push yourself outside your comfort zone. But if you push too hard, like you were talking with the Fitbit and the 50,000 steps a day or whatever is telling you to do in the 1,000 calorie, 1,200 calorie diet, it's like it can't be that. There's got to be some Goldilocks

middle place. Well, I think for a lot of people, and now once again, I'll always come back to me, because I don't want to talk for anyone else. But for me, it wasn't an overnight gain 20 pounds or fall out of fitness or whatever. It was like, all I can think of is death by a thousand cuts, right? Like, it's just like over the course of two years, you're a product of, you know, what you put in, essentially. So do I want it to take two years to get back to where I was before? No, I got to be honest. I don't.

But podcasting has really, really taught me a valuable lesson about consistency. and how important it is. I started this over three years ago now. And three years ago, it was kind of like, you're going to do what? And people laughed at you. But they tuned in just to kind of see what it was. And then, you know, three years later,

it's full time. And you're like, oh, well, geez, if I just continue to put in and progress and get a little better and a little better and a little better, you know, you can have death by a thousand cuts, but I don't know what the opposite is. I just know that you're the product of what you put in. And the sum of that is it can be really good, but it takes time.

It takes the ability to, to enjoy what you're doing along the way. Because if you really enjoy something, whether we're talking work or what you're putting in and out of your body, I just feel like that is the way to progress to where you're really happy in life, I think. I don't know, Ted. Does that make sense? I'm with you on that. Yeah.

And first of all, congrats on your success. That's an amazing story. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. And people don't see it, right? They don't, same thing happens in fitness too. It's like if you tell people, hey, I'm going to do this routine or I'm going to work with this coach Ted, right?

People are like, oh, that's probably pretty dumb. That's not going to work. And the truth is everything kind of works. but the one thing that stops everyone from getting what they want is quitting. So you have to find a way not to quit. And why are people, you know, you mentioned,

I'm going to do this. I'm going to try something new. You know, and you mentioned working with Ted. And then you said, and people say, that's pretty dumb. Why are people so harsh to people when they're trying to better themselves?

I think there's a, it's a great question. I think there's a lot of nuance here. And I think it depends on who it's coming from. Like I have clients who get told that, oh, don't get too skinny. And it's like everybody's obese. And my client just lost 20 pounds. And they're like telling them not to get too skinny.

So I asked this question on social media because I was seriously interested in the answer. And even one person said like, Well, my mom told me that before. And so I think some people like your mom, I'm assuming the relationship is good. I don't really know the person, but let's assume that the relationship is good and that the mom really cares. Right. And people don't want to see you hurt. People don't want to see you fail and see you suffer as a result because probably they've done something in their lives where they tried and they ended up quitting.

And it was extremely painful for them. I think the other thing is that people don't want to, some people don't want to see you change because it threatens, it makes them acutely aware of how they could be doing better and how they've settled. And I think there's also a cultural thing. Like I sell coaching. It's one of the, like I'm very grateful and I'm happy to do what I do and we get great results. but it's not if I wanted to make money, I would sell a product and probably if in the health and fitness space, it would probably be supplements because people buy them. A lot of people don't buy them and realize, oh shit, you know what? Not only is exercise a habit, but spending $500

on supplements and then taking them regularly is also a habit. And so a lot of people end up with a cabinet full of supplements that they don't even take because they don't have the habit. Just a little tangent there. But the point is, like, you know, I believe that there's like cultural norms. For example, paying for coaching or signing up for coaching only like the most forward thinking or maybe, you know, whatever you call it, successful people or, you know, success-minded people end up doing that. And or at least that comes naturally to, let's say.

Like for me, I never, I ended up hiring a business coach, but I didn't want to do it. Right. I've eventually got to the point where like, okay, I got over this story that I was telling myself like, hey, I could do this on my own. But look, I've been at this because I started my podcast seven years ago. And it took me until four years ago, until I did it full. punt, right? Maybe you're just smarter than me when it comes to that.

No, or, well, congrats on that. Did you hire a coach as well? No, I didn't. But as I hear you talk, I go, you know, one, don't compete against other people. Compete against yourself. It's a very good lesson, I think I've learned. Like, don't measure yourself against what Ted Rice is doing, I guess,

is what I'm trying to say. Because like, I mean, as I hear that, I go, seven years like so if you just start today Ted's already got you know how many years of fitness training and then how many years of podcast and all these things you have to start you know you got to be better than yourself yesterday and if you you know I know it sounds even for myself it sounds like so like what's the word I'm looking for here you know like just like cliche or something

you know like oh just you know even if you stumble get back up and keep going like I hear lots of people say that. But the one thing is I don't try to compare myself to anyone because it's Sean versus Sean. It's a tough lesson to learn. The other thing is, and this is the hardest thing. I'm 36, Ted. I don't know how old you are, but it's taken a long time for me to be comfortable with my thoughts so that I'm not worried about what everybody else thinks of me. So when you talk about getting a coach, I've had different coaches. And one of the things I think is great is to have some outside perspective of, kind of dissect some of your thoughts and how you think and everything else. But it's not a, it's not a, like a publicly accepted thing that you get help from anyone or that

you go, you know, talk to somebody about your problems. That is not a, like, you're not supposed to do that. And that's an interesting, like for people that people need to just, don't worry about that. Go do what you need to do for yourself. Because if you get better, everyone around you gets better. Yeah, great points. And I would say also to that it's not even that it's not acceptable to have coaching. It's in sports, there's not one athlete, one at least high performing winning athlete without a coach.

There's no winning sports teams without a coach. I mean, it's totally acceptable in that format. But it's like, you know, that's why I start to tell. I love the analogy of like, we're all athletes. That's a great point. That's a great point. Sorry, you finished. But that's a great point.

I hadn't thought about it like that, right? Connor McDavid, greatest NHL hockey player going right now, doesn't only have a coach of the team. He probably has a business coach, a social media coach, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, he can afford a lot of that

because he's making big bucks. But anyways, carry on with your point. That's a great point. Yeah, and if you think back to a time, like I haven't played hockey. I'm from Miami. It took me a long time before I even saw snow, right? but but I've been in sports and I ended up finding my way into Brazilian jiu-jitsu the way I

sucked when I first did it I had these I was a strong guy I was 28 years old I was in fitness for a long time lifting weights I deadlifted you know over 300 pounds for reps and I was getting these little skinny 16 year old kids you know tapping me out with with these moves and I was like what the hell is going on here? Like I'm stronger than these guys. Like I should be able to crush these guys. And I went in. I learned the techniques and I still wasn't getting good.

And then what I did was, all right, I'm doing okay. As a personal trainer, let me hire my instructor for private lessons. And I started doing private lessons with him. And as a result, I started getting really good.

And I ended up winning a Florida state championship. I've won a bunch of other tournaments in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at different belt levels. And just a brown belt, haven't hit my black belt yet. But even after all these years, because it's starting and stopping from going too hard and injuries anyway. But like that taught me, oh, I get the shortcut. The best shortcut is getting mentorship. And I think we all know this if we've been to college. I study biology in college and a lot of the classes I took aren't aren't helping me right now from going through them. And now, like after receiving some mentorship and having my podcast even, you don't necessarily

have to hire a coach, although, you know, a lot of people aren't going to just help you for free. I don't, right? I'm not a trust fund baby. But I think the lesson here, no matter whether you're at a place and just starting out or maybe financially stretched or whether you're just someone who's like, hey, listen, I'm successful. I just, I want to know how to get to that next level. Who do I hire? The point is this, like, you've got to be mindful of the inputs that are coming in your head and who's telling you what's possible, who's telling you the strategies to use. and who's guiding you through that process, whether it's through listening to your podcast, Sean, or my podcast,

or if you're actually working with someone. And that goes with anything, no matter if it's, you know, relationship counseling or business coaching or what I do, body transformation coaching. Yeah, it's, I just think if you want to be the best damn plumber in the world. you know uh a getting good at at your your your craft your art of you know making sure everybody's crap goes down the drain and and running lines and all that that jazz but then the next step is well you're one person are you going to hire a bunch people and do you have the ability to

manage that and then let's say you take it even one step further now you branch into different cities and now you man anyways i just look at it and i go it doesn't matter what profession you're in you're right when We praise athletes who have the one-on-one coach who works on this and that and everything, but we never take what they do and implement it into the common man's life, the common person's life, right? And I hear that and I go, huh, that's an interesting thought. Because whether we're talking about just personal fitness or your career, putting some value on that is motivating, right?

For a lot of people, if they put a little bit of money into something, it's going to motivate them to go do it because we are all, so much of our lives are dictated by, by the ever mighty dollar. That's a really great point about the money thing. It tells you, now, I want to say this to like, we're really talking about like excelling in the area that you really want to. to excel in. We're talking about hitting a high level of success in that area. If you're just, if you're not someone with that type of drive, there's no problem with that. Keep doing your thing. Just don't complain about the results you're getting. Right. Just be, you know, but so we're talking about that and we're talking about excelling in that area. Like, for example, I don't have a relationship coach, let's say, right now. My main focus is my business.

I'm working. I signed up for your business coach. And certainly what you're saying is true. Like when you, here's the truth about human behavior, especially with regards to fitness, personal fitness, like how much money you're willing to spend to solve a problem really tells you where it sits in terms of the priority. For example, I'll try not to use too extreme of an example, but if someone, you know, I can say this because I've actually experienced it. But if someone, let's say that someone took one of your kidnapped one of your kids and let's,

you know, get the violence out of it. But just say, hey, you're not going to see them again. They'll be okay. But you're never going to see them again unless you come up with 50,000 bucks or 100,000 bucks. Like what would you do? What were the, what are the links that you would go to to make that happen? I don't know about you.

I'm not a father yet. You are. But I would think like, hey, I'm going to ask my friends. I'm going to put this on social media. I'm going to start a, I'll do whatever it takes to make it happen. Any parents can do whatever it takes.

Right. But when it comes to ourself and maybe, you know, getting out of the hostage situation that we hold ourselves in with our health, right? It's like, ah, yeah, I don't really want to 30 bucks. I saw someone the other. day who said 30 bucks for a book on health was too much. And it's like, hmm, interesting. Well, I, yeah, I've been having it rolling my brain here, Ted, since we started talking,

because one of the books I purchased was one of the ones you recommended, the hungry brain, which has been a really, I haven't got through it all, but it's been a fantastic, interesting read, especially, I always come back to rats, whether it was Jordan Peterson talking about a study done on rats and how you get them addicted to cocaine. You put them in solitary confinement when they're alone. Then they're more apt drugs. And I found in the hungry brain they talk about how do you make a rat obese? Because they don't overeat.

You give them the cafeteria diet, which is, you know, well, the one that stuck out to me was fruit loops and, you know, like all the things that human beings are subject to. It's our diet. And all of a sudden you get obese rats. One of the things you said there, though, was, uh, you know, how we are in our self, like our mentality on ourselves. And one of the, I've been, I'm too new into the, where my head's at right now. So, you know, I should probably wait to just like parade around saying, I've got it figured because I know I don't. And every time I think I do,

I don't. But one of the cool things that I did in the last three weeks is in my mentality, I didn't realize it. But for some reason, I just felt guilty for making time for yourself. And, and like really being like, okay, I'm going to block this out. And during that time, I'm going to go, you know, for me, noon hour hockey. I love playing hockey. And at nighttime with kids, it's just difficult. But there's noon hour. Or I'm going to get up these mornings and it's blocked so I can go lift some weights.

And as soon as I did that, as soon as I was just like, and the funny thing was, is in like the first three days of me doing it, people tried inner, you know, like, oh, you want to meet at this time? And I had that gut check moment of like, I really want to meet with them. But I said I wasn't going to do, you know, and I'm like, you know, the listener can't see, but I'm like squeezing my hands here because I'm like, oh, no, here's gut check time. And I went, uh, no, I got to work out at that time. Oh, good for you.

And all of a sudden, all the stress that I had because people I thought were going to be like, well, no, that's the only time I can meet. They went, oh, can we meet it this time? Yeah. And I prioritize something that is very good for myself. And my thought patterns or just, you know, and I'm so new into this. you know like i mean god ask me again in a year listeners how i'm doing with it but i i don't want to appreciate it because i have no idea right i'm just my mentality went from being low to being like

not sky high just like very good positivity place and all i did was put a little emphasis on this times worked into my schedule i'm going to make sure i don't fuck with because i want to do things that make me healthier because if i'm healthier not only does my family benefit from it my kids I benefit from it, probably my business will benefit from it, which extends into my community. And you get the point. And that just comes from making, this is my time. Yeah. Right. And I would just ask you, what's the story you were telling yourself when you were saying? Sure. So when I worked full time, I had to do this podcast early in the mornings, like 5 a.m. to like 7 go to work. and then I get home and it'd be 4 p.m. to anywhere, you know, as late as midnight, I recorded.

Because I'm like, you know, if I want to make this work, I got a, and so podcasting for me was my, my time I scheduled. As soon as I started podcasting full time, now I'm almost on call 24-7. Because I'm like, well, if Ted wants to record it, and so now I have no, I've scheduled nothing for me. And it's almost like the podcast had taken over life. in a good way, but, you know, just like there's no time to get away for some, you know, recharge of my end. And so by just like approaching it, so I felt guilty about telling Ted, we can't do it. You know, let's say Ted, the only time you could do the interview is 5am. Normally I'd be like, yeah, let's do it.

Or if I get, you know, whoever you want, Joe Rogan says I can only do it five. Now, maybe Joe I'll make an exception for you get the point. I put everybody on that pedestal. I don't put just Joe. I put everybody when it came to the podcast. And so I felt really guilty for being like, these are the only times I can podcast. But as soon as I did that,

I found out that, wait, Ted can actually work around my schedule. And that by doing things for myself, I feel way better. Like, I just feel way better. Yeah, I think there are two things there.

Number one is like boundaries are the key. And a lot of people, I don't want to get to, you know, back into childhood stuff. but we didn't learn how to set healthy boundaries. We saw dad work too much and then come home and not want to talk to you because he was working on the all day or, you know, that was kind of my case at least.

Love my dad dearly, but, you know, he worked a lot and commuted to an hour to work than an hour back. And same thing with my stepmom. They didn't, they wanted some time alone. So when you start putting in boundaries, when you start learning how to take, you. control of this situation in a positive way, right? And set boundaries, you start to realize it's better for you. And when you're better, like you said, everything else gets better. And one of the things that I see with my clients is one of the things that we coach them on setting these boundaries,

right? Like, who do you need to talk to? Who do you need to ask for support? Who do you need to say no to? right? And yeah, it's not that big of a deal. It just feels like it is. And I think part of it is just, you know, the way we grew up, but also it feels uncomfortable to do something different. And why that's super important? Because I'm actually, you know, I love talking about, we haven't talked about, you know, diets and strength training that much. I'm passionate about that stuff. but I'm more passionate about transformation, transformation of identity. And what you're experiencing, I would say from our conversation and the limited amount that you shared with me, limited amount of info there, you start to become so indifferent.

You start to become a better version of yourself. And that is the key to long term maintenance of anything, whether we're talking about your podcast or whether we're talking about, you know, six-pack apps, you've got to, you've got to change as a person. It's one of the harshest truths about fat loss because people are asking themselves the question, hey, listen, I'm this person who, you know, how do I, how do I, I'm this person. And I'm Ted. I'm, you know, when I was 24% body fat, like, what are the things that I need to do to, lose some weight real quick. And like, I just need to change some of the things I'm doing.

But what you really need to change is what's going on at a much deeper level. And when that happens, you never go back. Again, coming back to the positive reinforcement because it feels so good, like kind of what you said, feels really good. And also, you're not hurting anybody by confining the times you're not doing anything negative of to anybody. They just got to pick a time that works within that time frame. It's not a big deal. Yeah. Well, this has been a fun little hour. I'm watching time here, Ted. We're closing in on time. I don't want to keep you, I hate time limits because then I focus a little bit on time. And as you've seen, I had a, as my listeners on, I have this like game plan of some things I want to get through. And then the conversation goes where they,

conversation is going to go. And that's what I love about podcasting. Do I have you for a couple minutes or is it a hard? Yeah, sure. Okay. I have a call coming up with my team, but we can go a few more minutes. Sure. Let's say another, you know, I don't want to give you another time limit that you're going to focus on. Sure. Sure. Well, I guess one of the things I wonder about a guy who spent as much time as yourself helping different people focus on their body is what's one of the, I don't know, is it flaws, not flaws, one of the biggest hurdles that people face. You know, you mentioned people aren't taking action. Is that the biggest hurdle that people face in trying to progress in life? I don't know if that's the right way to say it, but you know, you've got a lot

of time spent literally in, in this area. What's one of the biggest things you've seen or challenges that people face? Yeah. And it comes down to like what people say and their misconceptions about where they are. For example, a lot of people say, well, I'm not motivated to work out. And it's like, well, you're motivated, you have motivation to do other things. So it's not a motivation issue, right? Because if you're motivated to do other things, then it's not a motivation issue. It's just in this area. Why aren't you motivated in this area? And what I find, it like, they're motivated to go to work on time because they'll get fired if they don't, right? For example, motivated to pay their internet bill so they can, you know what I mean? So we all, we all are motivated to do things. The person who really

has no motivation is probably clinically depressed and they're not doing anything, like literally not doing anything. So what I would say to that is if you're having problem, getting motivated to take care of your health, it's probably a stress issue. And here's what I mean by that as soon as people start making some money, what's the big thing that happens? Oh my gosh. I was, it, it was so hard to pay the bills, but now I can pay the bills. And oh my gosh, wait a minute, I'm fat. And I don't want to look this. Like my clients, you know, I'm very happy to put out free information, but, you know, I work with high performing clients, right? Entrepreneurs, executives, attorneys, et cetera. And what we see is people, once they get to a certain point,

especially age range as well. Most of my clients are in their 40s, 50s and sometimes 60s. And it's like health becomes that thing where once the stress of the financial rush of our 20, you know, trying to make a career in our 20s and 30s goes away. You look around, you're like, oh my gosh, I've got to do something about this. So it's like, so that's one thing. The, I would say also the absolute commitment to get it done is another. I mean, I can even relate to this personally. I was, I was having some challenges in my business earlier this year.

And I just said, you know what? I just don't give a shit what the problems are anymore. I'm just going to, I'm going to commit to doing my work no matter what. Because a lot of us, we try to find a way out of our taking care of the three big areas of our life or health or wealth or relationships. And, you know, with health, in particular, also I would say people don't realize how it affects your relationships and your ability to generate wealth. What do you mean by that? Yeah. So in relationships, there's a great, there's a great TED talk called The Science of Love by John Gottman.

And what he found is that when people are together, he could predict who is going to stay together and who wasn't, not by listening to their words because he realized that people, we talk a lot, but a lot of it's just not getting down to the truth, right? We make up, oh, there's reasons and rationalizations and It's complicated, multi-ploid, you know. And what he did is he put people in a room.

He measured their heart rate. He measured their blood pressure. And he measured something called galvanic skin response. In other words, if you ever been really stressed, you start sweating on your skin. In fact, it's super sensitive. So one of the best measurements for a stress response. And what he found was that couples who were with each other and who got super triggered, they didn't make it.

But couples who were with each other and could, calm themselves down had a higher likelihood of, you know, staying together, right? And what I, when I saw that, I was like, man, that's so true. And here's the thing. If you're overweight, you're stressed. That's, you know, you're, you're stress eating. You're, um, you know, you're not exercising. As you get older, you start to lose fitness. It becomes harder just to go through your day. A lot of people work all day and they wonder, man, I wasn't this. tired when I was in my 30s working a full day. It's like, well, you lose fitness over time. And going back to what we were talking about earlier, I love using the analogy of an athlete. You're an

athlete. You might not be a hockey athlete anymore, but you're a parent athlete. You're a business owner athlete. You're an attorney athlete. You're an accountant athlete. And it takes energy to show up and do your sport, whatever that is, right? And just like athletes get in shape to do their sport, they don't do their sport to get in shape. You need to get in shape and be in shape for life. And whether that's, you know, the game you're playing is, I want to be married and live and have an amazing relationship with this woman

or this man in my life. You've got to be in shape for it or else you run into those situations where all of a sudden because, you know, your physiognized, isn't working so well, your brain doesn't work so well. And I think that is the simplest way to do it. If you're not in shape, your brain doesn't work well. You're more triggered. You're more sensitive emotionally. You don't feel as good. And so that affects you in relationships. And it affects you in your ability to work as well. And the more, I would even say, it is even more important if you're in a a situation like you or me where we actually deal with people.

If I show up on this podcast, hey, Sean, yeah, you know, I'm into fitness. Yeah. I help people get in shape. Oh, God, you know. You know, if I come up with that, if I show up with that sort of attitude, even if it's not as explicit as what I just made it, if it's coming through, you're going to be like, well, this guy doesn't really have his stuff together. And so if you're in sales, if you're, you know, closing deals with clients or that type of thing,

it's like it's going to affect your energy. You're going to be more triggered in a sales situation. You're going to be more triggered if you're going to court and you're an attorney, right, having to deal with this draft. So, okay, sure, you can you can do it because you've been doing it and you have this skill and the habit of, you know, going to court and going through the motions, but you're not going to be your best. And so no matter what it is, it's like our health is our foundation for that. Yeah, I could keep going on that for a long time.

Yeah, it's the secondary benefits of getting yourself in a good spot is a lot. And you hit a couple of big ones. I think how you handle stress when you're in a, you know, in a good spot in your life is, I mean, is pretty evident. I think that it's just easier to withstand some of the stresses of life when you put yourself in the best possible condition. You know, I'm reading a book though. I'm reading multiple books obviously, but I've been this summer, I picked one up on Winston Churchill. And he bucks everything we just talked about to the ninth degree. It's not even funny how like overweight he was, how much alcohol he consumed, how much, you know, he basically lived the cigar in his mouth. And when I read what he was thinking at the times of the war and everything

else, I'm like, this guy has a sharp mind, like an absolute sharp mind. And I would say he has to be the exception of the rule, because for the most of us, I don't think we're going to operate the way Winston Churchill did, but he does. Like I sit here and I listen and then, of course, I'm reading the hungry brain and I'm like, and then there's Winston Churchill. Like, how does he factor in all of this. I love that question. And I have, I have a client who's like a Winston Churchill. Not exactly, but she's, she's 52. She's a partner in an accounting firm, a public accounting firm. She's an auditor. And she is a machine. She stays up at night, multiple nights during tax season and crushes. She's like one of the highest producers.

bring in a ton of money for this accounting firm, right? And so it eventually catches up to you. She had some episodes of AFib and she went to the hospital. Her husband, now this is different, but had a heart attack while we were working together, right? And I really, and I supported her through it and it was really crazy. the first time it's ever happened. And what I would tell you is this. I mean,

what I would say is this. Some people are genetically blessed. Because she, when she started working with me, she was obese. Well, she's still obese, but she was, she's lost 30 pounds now. She's crushing it. And so like, when I hear about Winston Churchill and I think about my client, I think about like, those are people. who learn how to push their health aside to accomplish something. It's just that, number one,

she is, she's lost 30 pounds. She feels better. And she feels like she's doing a better job, even than what she was doing before. She also feels better with, she's like the person, like I just mentioned, if you're a client, if you actually deal with clients, you know, she had some stuff going on in her head about her image, the way she looked. Now, that is less. And I would argue that, yeah, it's amazing if you have that capacity, if you're blessed with that capacity. I think all of us can just ask the question instead of like, like, oh, but what about Winston Churchill, which is a good question? It's like we can all answer that question for ourselves, right? How do you feel when you're taking care of yourself? And what's going to

going on in your life? You know, as a hockey, when you don't. As a hockey player, we have, uh, it's called playing guilty.

You go out the night before, a big game. You have too many social. You have too many sociables. You stay up too late and you can play a game. I played some of my best games that way. Uh, it's,

it's almost, um, it gets you out of your head almost because you, you got to feel your body and how crappy it feels and you, you feel guilty because you should have been in bed and, and you play a great hockey game. But I also, think you can only pull that tactic off once or twice. You can't do it seven days in a row. And if

you can, you're superhuman because most of us can't function that way. And then I also go, but can you imagine how much like better like Winston Churchill in particular if he wasn't obese? Like I wonder how differently he would have thought about certain things. Maybe he would have reacted to certain different things in a different way, have more energy. I have no idea. I mean, the guy is, well, a legend of his time, right? I mean, uh, absolutely. You just, yeah, I bring up Winston because I'm literally reading it right now. Anyways, it's a side note, Ted.

Um, before I kick you out of here, uh, not kick you out of here, but before I allow you to get on and I appreciate you giving us a few extra minutes. Um, the final question I always do is, uh, is the crude master final question. They've been, uh, sponsored to the podcast since, uh, the very beginning. And it's he's words. He said, if you're going to stand behind a, cause that you think is right, then stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing Ted stands behind? I would say the importance of family. I would say the importance of leading by example. I would say the importance of striving to be better always. Regardless.

the family thing is something really resonates with me. I've always, I don't know if I said this so loud to my listeners or not, maybe they have, maybe I haven't. So maybe you're hearing something new. I have no idea. But like if the podcast went to the moon and back, and for podcasters, I think Joe Rogan is probably the easy fruit. Like if you could be where Joe Rogan is, but I lose my family by doing it, I don't want it. Like the only way I want to go anywhere near that is if that foundation is solid.

And so that's how I guide a lot of the choices I make in life because I don't want to lose that. And so the family thing I think is really important for people to hear. I don't know. From your side of things, do you think that's something that's been lost in society? Lost in society. I'm in Brazil right now. I lived in Thailand. I lived in Malaysia. I lived in Vietnam. I've lived in Colombia and Mexico and in the United States. And I'll tell you, I can't speak. I haven't lived in Canada. So I can't speak for that. But one thing that I've noticed in like big cities in the United States and especially Miami where I grew up is. Yeah, there's too much. And I can only speak for American life. I can't speak for how Canada is. I think you guys are. more family oriented. In the states, in the big cities, I think we say we're family oriented.

But again, it just, you know, it's the talk. Everything I do, I do for my family. It's like, then why haven't you seen them? Why do you work a hundred hour weeks? And, you know, you come home and drink alcohol watching TV at night. You know what I mean? So what they really need from you is you as a parent. And I almost say that as a son, thinking back to how my dad had a very good relationship with my dad towards the end of his life. We spent a lot of time together, had a lot of amazing conversations. And he was a big fan of Winston Churchill, too, a very intelligent man. I learned a lot from him. But like, you know, when what I really needed more of was him to be around, was him to be a positive role model, which he kind of wasn't. He wasn't around that much.

He drank too much alcohol. And, you know, he later, you know, admitted to that and realized it. He didn't know it at the time, though. And I say that not to, you know, talk bad about my dad, but to say he didn't have the Sean Newman podcast to listen to or my podcast, a legendary life podcast. And one of the most important things that we can do right now, people like us, it's like to start to make people aware of the choices they make. And what you said was beautiful.

It's like if I could be as successful as Joe Rogan, but I would have to sacrifice my family to do it, is that really worth it to me? And for you, it's a hard no. And I think a lot of people are doing that right now. And they don't realize that's what they're doing. They think they're doing it for their family.

Kobe Bryant, I just watched, uh, just watched, before we started. I, it came across on. one of my feeds. It was Kobe Bryant being interviewed, obviously, before he passed away.

And he was talking, the question basically was, how does he balance family life with how hard he attacks basketball in his career and everything? And the last 50 seconds, he says something along the lines about balance and that a kid doesn't get you, you can lead by example by working your tail off because you're trying to provide a better life for them. what you're trying to do. And certainly with Kobe Bryant, he's trying to win championships and be successful. I think we all want success. But he said something really interesting. And I failed at this at times and sometimes I've been successful. And that is when you come home, you don't have the option of being tired and laying on the coach and not interacting with your

kids because they don't understand. They understand that you're working hard. But when you come home if you're just like I've been working too hard I don't have time for you and you crack a beer and watch show and don't interact with them that's way different than coming home and being like you know what I'm tired but I got to suck it up because I only get so many days so many hours in a day with these children and then pretty soon they're going to want to be around you and etc etc anyways it's Kobe Bryant and I was just like yeah that that is that is bang on you come home after working as hard as you can go to push what you're trying to do to the next level. You have to take that mentality into interacting with your children, hanging out with them.

If they want to go to the swimming pool, I'm tired and I don't really want to go. But if that's what they want to do, I want them to have these memories and experience things around me as well, other than just me going to work and working my bag off. I love that. And I would even ask you, like, after going to the swimming pool with them, how do you feel? Do you still feel exhausted? And the answer will be no. Because in the middle of COVID, I was coaching my U7, uh, uh, U7 hockey.

I never wanted to be a coach, Ted. But I thought after being on the ice with a bunch of grade one and kindergarten kids, the entire world is if they experienced just a sliver of that being around those kids, like the world would be a better place. Like the kids have such a, well, it's youthful exuberance, right? Like just a way of looking at the world and trying things and falling a thousand. thousand times, but still getting back up, having a smile on their face, and just, and they, like,

it's intoxicating to be around. So to your point, the answer is, no, you can't go hang out with kids. I mean, I'm sure you can if you've had a really rough day. Like, I mean, sure, there will be the, the instances. But for the most part, no, like, you go hang out with some kids, your kids specifically and interact with them and something where they get to be themselves. And you don't have to tell them no a thousand times. No, I don't see how you can come out of that and not smile. I hear you. I'm not a dad yet, but yeah, I'd even say like the thing that I'm the most proud of is all my clients, or at least, yeah, I think all my clients right now, obviously I work with people who don't have kids, but all my clients right now are parents. And I love asking. them, hey, okay, you're down 30 pounds in four months. That's fantastic. But what is this doing for your life at home for you? Like, what is this doing for how you're showing up for your family,

right? What are some of the things that have happened that you would have never guessed that taking care of your health would lead to these other results? And one of my clients said, well, you know, I'm going for run with my daughter. She's like running cross country. Now I'm running with her. And you start to see people spending more time with their children as they get healthier. And I would even say like physical health, certainly mental health too, but I really believe, you know, physical health is the foundation for mental health. It's like it's the found.

It's also the foundation for healthier families. And the more unhealthy you are physically, the more unhealthy that your family is going to be. All you got to do is see someone, you know, people who have massive health issues and see what that does to the family. Even if there's a lot of love there, it, what it does is it creates, it goes back to that word that I said before that we talked about in the beginning. It creates a lot of stress. And stress breaks people down.

And the more intense it is, the more, it is. the more it breaks you down. The longer it goes on, the more it breaks you down. And, you know, getting into the best shape that we can, right? Of course, going back to what we talked about, creating those habits, that's the way to make yourself unbreakable, right? To make yourself resilient. I've really enjoyed this, Ted.

It's been a quick, you know, you get in the rhythm of podcasting. and it's been a quick hour, over an hour. If people want to find Ted Rice, where can they do that? You mentioned your podcast, the legendary life podcast, where are other ways they can find you if what you've said along the way has resonated with them and they can look you up? Well, I'm on Twitter, along with you, right? And that's at Ted underscore Rice, and that's TED underscore RYCE.

And if you're specifically interested in, you know, what I offer in terms of fat loss and coaching and that type of thing and want to learn a little bit more, my masterclass is the place to go for that. So you go to legendary lifepodcast.com slash free. And that would be the place to go to get an idea of the tactics I use, the strategies I use for fat loss. Well, cool. Well, appreciate you giving me some of your time this. morning, Ted. And while...

It's a lot of fun. Yeah, well, I appreciate. I'm glad. I'm glad I can make an experience that puts a smile on your face. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks so much, Sean. You bet.