Shaun Newman Podcast - #314 - Marc Morano

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

He currently serves as executive editor & chief correspondent for ClimateDepot.com, he is the author of the 2022 book The Great Reset: Global Elites & the Permanent Lockdown and is a frequent ...guest on radio and television talk shows including CNN, Fox News & the BBC. Link to a copy of Marc's book: https://amzn.to/3L0dO9Q November 5th SNP Presents: QDM & 2's.   Get your tickets here: https://snp.ticketleap.com/snp-presents-qdm--222-minutes Let me know what you think   Text me 587-217-8500

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, guys, it's Kid Carson. This is Alexandra Kitty. This is Danielle Smith. Hey, everybody. This is Paul Brandt. Jeremy McKenzie, Ragingdissident.com. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the podcast, folks.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Happy Monday. I hope everybody's weekend was a good one. I tell you what, what did you think of the five podcasts in one week, folks? I tell you what, I don't know if I could have predicted that I'd be doing that in my wildest dreams. but I'm having a lot of fun on this side. So I hope, you know, I got a ton of techs in from all of you, all across the map, enjoying the different variations. So I hope you're enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 If you miss Thursday's roundtable with the Western Standard, we're going to be doing a few of these pilot episodes here as we move forward in the month of September, seeing the temperature for them, seeing if there's any want or not for them. So keep an eye on those Thursday nights, 7 o'clock. They'll be released on the podcast and on the Western Standard just to kind of keep everybody in the loop. As you went from one three and a half years ago, now to five. So just to keep you kind of in the loop. If you're looking for tickets, SMP Presents, Quick Dick, McDick, and 222 minutes, go in the show notes.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And you can find the link for tickets. That's November 5th. And certainly with my first sponsor of today's episode, Canadian, for truth. Uh, here September 24th, I'm going to be on stage with Theo Fleury, Joseph Borgo and Jamie Saleh introducing or I don't know if it's introducing. I tell you what, I'm just as interested as the rest of you in what they're, what they're doing with this media, uh, corporation, media company. I don't know what to call it yet. Um, but Canadians for truth, they are the first sponsor today and I'm looking forward to September 24th to being on stage with them and seeing
Starting point is 00:01:54 exactly how this goes. I'm curious, you know, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm kind of interested to see where it goes. Anyways, that's a side note. Let's get to today's guest. Before we get there, today's guest, blah, as I spitball here, I told you guys a couple episodes ago, I've been trying really hard not to stop and re-record and blah, blah, blah, blah. While this is the problem with that, I start rambling.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Anyways, Canadians for truth, their nonprofit organization consisting of Canadians who believe in honesty, integrity, and principal leadership, and government, as well as the Canadian Bill of Rights, charter of rights and freedoms, and the rule of just laws. And like I said, multiple times there. Theo, they've teamed up with Theo Flurry, Jamie Saleh, and Joseph Borgo. Those three are going to have different shows coming out. They're forming a media corporation company.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I don't know what we're going to call this. You heard about with Ryan Olson last week. And so we'll have to keep our eyes open for that. That's Canadians for Truth.ca. Or go on their Facebook and see what they're doing there. Either way, we're going to find out here awfully quick what Canadian for Truth is all about. I'm certainly excited to hear more about it. Man, sorry, I got something right in the old throat.
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Starting point is 00:05:51 Now, let's get on in that tail of the tape, brought to you by Hancock Petroleum. For the past 80 years, they've been an industry leader in bulkfields, lubricants, methanol, and chemicals delivering to your farm commercial or oil field locations. For more information, visit them at Hancockpetroleum.ca. He currently serves as executive editor and chief correspondent for climate depot.com. He is the author of the 2022 book, The Great Reset, Global Elites, and the permanent lockdown, and is a frequent guest on radio and television talk shows, including CNN, Fox News, and, the BBC. I'm talking about Mark Morano. So buckle up. Here we go. Hi, this is Mark Morano. This is Mark Morano, author of the Great Re- Hey, cease, desist. Okay. Hi, this is Mark Morano, author of the Great Reset. Hi, this is Mark Morano, author of the Great Reset. You're listening to the Sean Newman Show and a chorus of dogs barking. Enjoy. Welcome to Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Mark Morano. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Thank you very much. Happy to be here today. Looking forward to it. Now, I have no idea. My listeners are well versed. And saying that, there's going to be few or maybe many who have never heard of you. So I want to start with who is Mark, long or short as you want to go with that, Mark, but just some background information so people can get a feel for who we're listening to. I'm an investigative journalist by background. And I started my career actually in politics, which a lot of us do as a campaign manager for local races. And then I worked as Rush Limbaugh's. This wasn't the investigative part, but I was Rush Limbaugh's man in Washington for his TV show,
Starting point is 00:07:48 which was politics and media and entertainment. I had a blast for four years from 1992 to 1996. I was his man in Washington wore a hat, trench coat, went to all the fundraisers, Capitol Hill events, went to Arkansas. during Clinton's transition, not his transition as it means today, but during the transition from the Bush presidency to Clinton administration in 1992. And I had a great time in Limbaugh. I had my camera stolen at the White House, I had escorted out by police from Democratic
Starting point is 00:08:17 fundraisers, just had a great time working with that show. It really gave me a hints of politics and entertainment. So then I went and worked for a show called American Investigator, which was like a low-budget, 60 minutes and I did a whole series of environmental stories on endangered species, wetlands, and I did a big documentary on the Amazon rainforest, how the claims about it were way overblown. And actually, since I did that, and that came out in year 2000, Amazon is now, you know, even the New York Times amidst for every acre of rainforest being cut, 50 year regenerating, all the people who they were worried about with slash and burn agriculture, they've moved to
Starting point is 00:08:54 big urban areas and cities. And the jungle is actually not as threatened as they're. once thought, and that's according to the New York Times now. But I did a documentary on that. And then I worked for Cybercast News Service for years, started attending all these UN climate events. And then I went to work in the United States Senate Environment and Public Works Committee for Senator James Inhoff when he was a ranking member and then chairman in the U.S. Senate and got presided over as a senior Senate staffer, Al Gore's testimony, all the scientists. I wrote a thousand dissenting scientist report in the U.S. Senate started with 400.
Starting point is 00:09:29 and the numbers kept growing. We called up scientists from around the world that's caulked us. Anyway, started Climate Depot in 2009. And since then, I've been covering climate energy news daily. And that is all now morphing into this great reset. So I wrote a book, Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change a few years ago. Last year, I released Green Fraud about the Green New Deal. And this year is the great reset book.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Okay, that was a lot. Well, I want to start here. You talked about being investigative journalists. what did you stumble upon? Did you go in thinking one thing and it changed your mind or did you go in thinking this is what I think and you found that? I'm curious. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Initially, like we're talking about like the Amazon, one of the things I always said I was a Republican except when it came to environmental issues. So initially it wasn't until the Rio Earth Summit in 1992 that I reconsidered my environmental views because I essentially I was watching all these documentaries, National Geographic. I loved all the nature stuff and how the rainforest was disappearing. The species were all going extinct. And it was after it was Dixie Lee Ray, who was a nuclear physicist who went to the Rio Earth Summit and attended it when George H.W. Bush went.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And she was reporting back on all this. You know, the Amazon is not in danger, don't believe all this. So I started my own investigation on that very skeptically at first. And I was actually shocked and culminating years later with this Amazon Rainforest documentary. But that's one example of where I learned. So by the time climate came along, I was very skeptical. And I would actually say my skepticism only grew as I investigated it because I realized it was so many parts politics and very few parts science.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It was a campaign cause narrative. So for the last 20 years, and I'm not saying this is exaggeration, I probably attended 16 or 17 out of the last 21 United Nations conference all around the world. So I've been to Bali. I've been to South America. I've been to Africa multiple times. I'm going to Egypt this November. I was in Scotland last year.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I was in Madrid before that. Wherever they have these summits, and I spend over a week there talking to people. I've debated the head of the UN IPCC, former head, Regenda, Pachari. I debated Bill Nye, the science guy. I'm not a scientist, I like to say, but I play one on TV. But, no, I come in as an investigative journalist, so I don't pretend to be a scientist.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But I study, I talk to all the scientists, and I report on what the scientists say. and I actually, the more important part when it comes to climate change is studying how they put the face of the climate consensus together and how the UN Climate Panel operates. When you have the former chairman of the UN Climate Panel say, global warming is my religion and we are at the beck and call of governments, if they want a different product, we'll produce a different product. In other words, politics demands a climate crisis and the UN Climate Panel is more than willing to produce it, especially when the head of it believes global warming is his religion. So you're saying that politics directs the climate emergency. Politics directs the climate emergency. Politics directed the COVID solutions.
Starting point is 00:12:32 The science, as we've heard with a capital T, is literally done in support of policies already made. In this new book, I have The Great Reset, I devoted entire chapter to the corruptionist scientists. Going back to Dwight David Eisenhower's inaugural, not inaugural, but his farewell address from the presidency in 1961 warning about how a government grant is going to be a substitute for real science. In other words, it doesn't matter what the facts are. If you're funded to show a climate emergency, if you're funded to show, you know, that COVID's going to run amok unless we have lockdowns, your study is going to show that because that's what you are funded for. And if you go against it, you run into cancel culture, you run into defunding,
Starting point is 00:13:12 you run into being a profile in the book, Nobel Prize winning epidemiologist, who was uninvited from scientific conferences because he didn't support lockdowns during COVID. This is how they create the illusion of consensus. All scientists agree, but if you disagree, you're deplatform, cancel, defunded, and uninvited. So suddenly, you don't exist anymore. So guess what? All the remaining scientists still agree because they don't have the courage to stand up to the science. Well, I tell you what, to just have a little bit of fun last night, I watched a David Attenborough documentary on the world driving off.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He can be very good, but then he gets very wacky and political. Well, but what you- cinematography, the narration, the, it's a great, it's a great filmmaker. It's just that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:59 he goes off, off the reservation many times, but go ahead. But, well, what I was going to say is, uh, I think for my audience,
Starting point is 00:14:06 in particular, you know, uh, we, for the audience, I've never met Mark before. So this is the first, uh,
Starting point is 00:14:11 first go around, which is, which is fun to always meet new people. But, uh, for my audience, you know, I would say,
Starting point is 00:14:16 I watched all the documentaries and I love the planet and, and, you know, I get all this. And then COVID hit. And then I started asking questions. And the further you went down, the more questions you had. And I mean, you don't have to talk about people being canceled and doctors being thrown out.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And I've interviewed half of them, right? And the audience has got to hear half of them. And you're like, oh. And as soon as you go, oh, you start to look at everything and go, so what else aren't they telling us? And so when you when you talk, I want to believe what you're talking about. But it's, but at the same time, I don't want the planet to fall apart, right? It's a funny little position I'm in, right? You're one of the first people I've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I hope to do plenty on this as I move forward because it's being thrown at us over and over and over again. And if people aren't educated to talk about some different things and here are some different people speak, then what gets to carry on is the narrative. Yes. And in fact, if you look at the climate and when I give a presentation or you can look at my books, I start out with how we've radically improved the environment. environment. So being a climate change skeptic or being against the Green New Deal or being against the UN-Paris climate agreement does not mean you hate the earth. It does not mean you you want to see pollution everywhere and you're just, you're a big industry-funded denier. I'm not. They've always accused me if you're an Exxon, you're an oil spokesman. Oil companies wouldn't give me a sense.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And the bottom line is Exxon Mobil gave to conservative groups years ago, but they stopped in 2006, but it wasn't for climate denial. They just gave to all groups, but then they got shamed into not doing it. And ExxonMobil and all these big oil companies support the Paris Agreement. They support carbon taxes. They support all the government mandates and regulations because they're big conglomerates and it crushes the smaller competitors. They can buy them up. They want nothing to do with people like me. So that's one of the things you'll hear. Oh, he's an oil lobbyist. I've never been a lobbyist in my life. Almost all my money comes from just individual donations at our organization. We're a think tank in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So here's the bottom line. We've radically improved air and water quality since the first Earth Day in 1970. And we've done it to the point where now the World Health Organization recognizes the United States as one of the cleanest air quality and environments in the world. We're better than most of Europe, Germany, Austria, I mean, the list. And because of that, the climate activists had to do something in order to keep this sort of regulatory state going, data. And I have mainstream journalists in my book saying, we've largely solved the problem of pollution. That's been solved. You know, clean air, clean water. There's a few bad spots. Flint, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:16:56 with lead. I think it's Memphis, I want to say, Tennessee right now that has a horrible infrastructure situation. You can't even drink the water. But that's manmade failure. And that's not from, that's bad political decision making and city planning. But essentially, we've done all this through at the same time, we've cleaned all the air up. We've done it through huge wealth creation, population increases and also sensible regulations. You know, and the idea is the regulations don't do as much as you think because once the public focus of the first Earth Day was on the filthy rivers of the Northeast and their smog and air quality, businesses got the message.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They were shamed, if nothing else. And technology came online and we were able to clean all that up. So if you look back, it's some of the cases 80, 90 percent improvements in all of these pollutants in our air quality from the first Earth Day. Sorry about that. There's dogs over here fighting. All good. Dog tumble down the steps.
Starting point is 00:17:54 He's okay. Okay. So when you look at that, we've solved that problem. So what they've done in Al Gore is a big champion, they've calling carbon dioxide a pollutant in order to justify, you know, a lot of their draconia measures. Now, humans inhale oxygen. We exhale carbon dioxide.
Starting point is 00:18:11 They're claiming that what we exhale is a pollutant. There's one UK-funded government report that actually says we need. to regulate carbon dioxide as the same way we do asbestos, which causes mesothemiosa and horrible cancers. Well, that's a first, even for me. This was a 2019 or 20 report that the UK government paid for. Imagine human breath is regulated as asbestos. The Obama administration, Biden administration, tried to regulate CO2 as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act. That's what this big Supreme Court case was. This was a major blow to their efforts because if you can declare human breath a pollutant, you can pretty much regulate any aspect of human society you want.
Starting point is 00:18:49 And that also goes to the overpopulation agenda. So anyway, make a long story short, being for the environment has nothing to do with climate. So then the longest, even shorter, really short, we are not an unprecedented climate conditions. Even the first UN report showed the medieval warm period, about 1,500 AD, much warmer than today. And then they said, oh, we have to get rid of the medieval warm period. Literally, we had a scientist testified before our committee. he heard from his colleagues that that was ruining the climate change narrative. So a few years after that chart that showed the medieval warm period up here,
Starting point is 00:19:21 current temperatures here, the UN erased it, came up with a new chart that showed temperatures the last thousand years flat, and then the 20th century of big Skype, big spike and temperature. And they claimed that they had to make adjustments and new analysis, and that's how they came up with. Very convenient for their narrative. Same thing right now is happening.
Starting point is 00:19:40 We have 1930s. Biden's EPA, which I include in all my talk. talks and it's on my website. The 1930s heat waves were 10 times higher than today, maybe more. Like if you look at the state, then 75% of heat records were set before 1950. The 1930s were hot. It was the era of the dust bowl, grapes of wrath, you know, all of the droughts. But what's happening now? A Texas A&M professor has publicly announced, we got to get rid of these charts and he wants to redo the temperature analysis from the 1930s and radically cool it
Starting point is 00:20:11 so that we can show current temperatures higher than then. This is the kind of things when I say, I don't need a climate technological degree to investigate these kind of things that happen in the climate community. And this is what we're dealing with. So the short bottom line and the long and short of it is, climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, tilt to the earth's axis, water vapor, methane, clouds, ocean cycles,
Starting point is 00:20:33 solar, solar inputs, and carbon dioxide, methane, other gases, although methane is considered an irrelevant greenhouse gas, because it disappears in the atmosphere. But essentially, this is the idea that they've done is politically selected carbon dioxide as some kind of control knob and they want to reorder a radical transformation in their own words,
Starting point is 00:20:53 society in order to fight this menace of CO2, ignoring all the other factors. If they're going to call us climate deniers, I'm going to call them natural climate change deniers or climate cause deniers. They're ignoring all the natural factors that have changed climate. And one last point,
Starting point is 00:21:10 90% of Earth's history has had, higher CO2 levels than today and higher temperatures than today. 90% of Earth's history was too warm for ice at either pool. We're at either pole. We're in the 10% coldest, geologically speaking. We're in the lowest level, geologically speaking, of Earth's history with carbon dioxide. You mentioned 1970 was the first Earth day. Did I catch that date, right?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Yes, that's right. Okay. Where along the way does it go from shaming companies into doing what's right? Because I assume at that point, and maybe for 20 years, 30 years, whatever the number is. people need to get their act together. And I assume moving in the future, you're not against innovation and making things better. I think that's what has been great about North America where we all live, is innovation and development and new technologies, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But since 1970, the first Earth Day, where does it go off the rails then, where it becomes the science is settled, which is a scary thought, debate is shunned people who talk against it thrown over here. Let's rewrite the book so it makes it people understand. Where along the lines does it go off the rails? Well, first of all, the first Earth Day had 19, was featured manmade global cooling. So before fossil fuels caused global warming, fossil fuels caused global cooling. And I have a whole chapter on this in my previous book, Green Fraud.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Literally, the CIA did a report warning of manmade global cooling saying it's going to national security threat. There were reports and scientists claiming that bad weather events, floods and droughts were caused by man-made global cooling. It was so bad, they wanted to drop soot on the Arctic so it would absorb sun so we'd keep the ice from growing too much on the poles. That morphed because that was a cold period. That it warmed up. And by the time the 80s come around, everyone's on board with global warming. Al Gore starts having hearings. First of a NASA scientist, 1981, too, starts warning. Al Gore has his first hearing, I think, 1984. But you asked me when it goes off the rails.
Starting point is 00:23:06 One year in particular. 1984. That's the year. The year. The United Nations said, we're going to form a climate panel and we're going to look into this causes a climate change and see if carbon dioxide is really a problem. Now, as a bonus, not only did the UN get to appoint itself in charge of looking at whether CO2 was causing a climate crisis, it got to be in charge of any solution if it was in fact causing a climate crisis, hence all these UN climate summits and all the Hollywood celebrities and all the money and the $100 billion climate fund. So guess what? Once you started a self-perpetuating lobbying organization, like the UN climate panel, they had no incentive to ever say, you know what, carbon dioxide
Starting point is 00:23:45 isn't driving a climate crisis. If they did, they would no longer be able to meet in places like Bali and Cancun and all over South America and all these exotic resorts. And then they also wouldn't be in charge of the solution. So that was the red letter year, so to speak, 1988. It was also the year that a NASA scientist went and testified before the Senate that the earth, you know, we're facing a dangerous global warming. And this is a catalyptych. a catastrophe coming. And that guy's name was James Hansen, who later got, he was NASA's lead global warming scientist, later got arrested half a dozen times, protesting global warming, taken away in handcuffs. And he actually endorsed a book, suggesting that we get rid of industrial
Starting point is 00:24:26 civilization and even bomb our cities back. This is the kind of unabomber style thinking we had as the head of NASA. So that year is important. In 1988, UN Climate Panel starts and NASA goes off the rails. Once that happens, the media backs it up, the money starts flowing, academia gets it, and that's when dissent became impossible. Because in 1970s, I actually featured in my book actual vigorous debates between scientists worried about rising CO2 and those saying that it's global cooling. So yeah, the global warming scientists versus the global cooling scientists. You were actually allowed to have debate. The New York Times featured some scientists believe this, others believe that. But later, that kind of reporting went out the window and it became all science.
Starting point is 00:25:09 scientists agree. And if you don't, we saw what happened with the COVID scientists. Same thing. I knew all was happening at COVID because I had seen it all decades before in the climate movement. Well, yeah, I, it's interesting that New York Times and different, you having a different peer preview than myself, me being younger and just not, you know, I go, where's all the debate? Like, why can't I watch? You know, I watched you and Bill Nye and I watched you and another guy on CNN. I can't think of it. name or there's two of them. And I was like, man, wouldn't that be a fantastic podcast, you know, and sit you down around the table? We'd love finding someone. There's actually a couple now that are willing to debate. Very few, though. There's, you know, one name is Andrew Dessler who's willing to debate on the climate activist side. And another is Gerald Cutney, but he's not only a scientist. I think he's an author. But there's been a couple debates, shocking, but we went like a decade with no debates, almost a decade with no debates allowed. Because what happened was, and I write
Starting point is 00:26:08 about this. 2007, they had a big debate in New York City with NASA scientists and head of environmental groups and other big, big scientists, three against three. Michael Crichton was on the skeptical side, a UK scientist and Richard Linson from MIT. They polled the audience of hundreds of New Yorkers before. Is climate a crisis? They overwhelmingly voted yes. 90-minute debate, same audience. They polled again. Flipped. Overwhelmingly voted climate is not a crisis. Gavin Schmidt, who's now the head of NASA's climate science division, he was the junior guy back then, 2007, announced to the world. And this is an important point. He said, we were terrible in this debate. These debates aren't worth having. We were out debated. We can no longer agree to
Starting point is 00:26:51 these debates. And that sent a message out that even two years later, Scott Pelly, CBS News anchor, said, I won't feature a climate denier on CBS News for the same reason I won't feature a Holocaust denier. So then that whole demonization and there was no way they were going to allow this. This is also right after Al Gore wins his Nobel Prize. They figured they didn't want any more debates because they own the media. They owned academia. They own the funding. They own the international organizations. And they were intimidating anyone who disagreed as being anti-science, a denier. Same way you saw with anyone who challenged a COVID mask mandate or COVID-Bax or a COVID lockdown. You were immediately against the interests of the state and you had to be destroyed, defined. canceled. And that's what they were doing decades ago in the climate movement. The only difference maybe then, and I don't know if you'll agree with me or not, but the pushback immediately on a lot of the COVID. And for some, it was right away. For others, it took some time. But with COVID in particular, the pushback seen by not a small fringe, as our prime minister would say, but a good solid chunk of the population pushed back immediately. Or in the first
Starting point is 00:28:01 two years. You know, when you talk about 1988, I go, holy crap, that's pretty much my lifetime. Born in 86. I've never known. I've just never known anything but watching the documentaries, hearing different things. And yet when I come from the farm
Starting point is 00:28:17 growing up, we went through the 90s, which was probably the worst drought that we've had here in my lifetime. You know, like where all the sluze, waters, dugouts, everything was dry. It was just a struggle. They were just dead birds everywhere. And now that's very anecdotal evidence. But I mean, now it's the complete opposite,
Starting point is 00:28:36 right? Everything's full and we've had more water over the course of the past probably two decades than we did growing up. But I just look at the dates and I go, man, like what changes in a lifetime is, is the messaging and the fact that I've never seen people actively debate, not only climate, just a whole plethora of issues. And now we're starting to snowball into this, you know, where, like we joke up here um you know when it comes to energy like we have eight months a winter where like you know the wind solar debate up here is almost laughable because it's like well we'll all freeze like I mean at the end of the day we will literally all freeze that like we have minus 40 for like three straight weeks in the middle of of uh of winter and winter isn't this short
Starting point is 00:29:26 little stint it is a huge chunk of living in the great white north and so to to have more debate and try and get the right answer seems sensible, but that isn't what the mainstream narrative pushes. No, it's not. In fact, there's a whole weird narrative happening now. Kathy Hochel from saying, the governor in New York actually is telling Trump supporters, this is a bizarre example,
Starting point is 00:29:50 to leave the state. We don't want you here, go to Florida, take your radical ideology with you. Charlie Chris running against Ron DeSantis in Florida, openly just announced last week, He doesn't want votes of anyone who would like Donald Trump or Ronda Sanders. He doesn't want your vote. Don't vote for him.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And Disney, NBA, NFL, they have the same attitude. We don't care if the fans don't like what we're doing. We're going to inject politics. We're going to inject critical race theory. We're going to do wokeness and all of this. And we don't care what business we lose, all the corporations. It's a new trend where it's like, this is what we decided. We are morally right.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So you guys are basically immoral, evil, and you are going to be marginal. This is what China does with a social credit system. This is how the West is imitating China. And it's the exact same concept. In other words, they don't want to persuade you. So that's why they don't care about debate. They want to marginalize you until you comply. They could care less whether you agree, whether they could persuade you.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They're not interested. Look at Greta Thunberg. Her famous expression was, I want you to panic and I want you to be afraid. This is her phrase. Why? because if you're panicked and afraid, you're willing to accept solutions that you wouldn't otherwise have.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And there's also no time for reason, debate and thought or analysis. This is why COVID is leading to a great reset because they did a climate, they did a COVID emergency declaration in March of 2020, sadly signed by President Trump. Greatest mistake of his presidency.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It cost him his presidency. I write about that in the book. It ended the economy and it caused all the voting changes, allowed all the mail-in for COVID safety. And anyway, he signed his own election loss when he signed that in March of 2020. But what it did was it granted executive and unelected bureaucrats Chinese one party authority, one party rule overnight. So any mayor or governor could issue stay at home orders, lockdowns, mask mandates,
Starting point is 00:31:49 Vask mandates, curfews, cancel weddings, funerals, closed churches, closed gyms by executive order. No need for messiness. this is why politicians from Justin Trudeau to the UN climate chief to Obama administration to New York Times comments have praised China's one party rule for decades. I show this in the book, have their actual quotes. Justin Trudeau is like, I have great admiration for China. Yeah, I think every Canadian knows that, right? Like, it's scary.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So that's the whole point. So now COVID and the lockdowns and the emergency powers gave them Chinese one party rule. They didn't have to have a vote of Congress, Parliament, city council, town hall. All out the window. You could just do what was right. You were morally, you were saving lives. And now, to tie this all together, this is part of the Great Reset, Associated Press reported last month in July, I guess it's two months ago now, that Joe Biden was set to declare a national
Starting point is 00:32:42 climate emergency, giving him 130 executive powers, but not just Joe Biden, governors, mayors, who now want to be able to say we can control thermostats, we can control your vehicle, we can ban gas powered cars, we can close gas stations, we can do scorn. car-free cities. We're going to ban cars from going in because we had to control. We had to save the climate. No vote of Congress for any of that. No vote of town council. No vote of House of State representatives. It's all because it's an emergency. And you say, oh, well, the courts won't allow. Well, it took two years for one Donald Trump appointed federal judge to stop mask mandates on airplanes and buses and trains. So they can get a lot of damage done before any judge, federal
Starting point is 00:33:25 judge catches up or Supreme Court's even longer to catch up, at least here in America. So this is what we're facing is rule by emergency decree. And that's what my book's about. And I go through the origins. I have two chapters devoted to the COVID climate connection and how they want to morph, 230 medical journals, Harvard Medical School, Journal Nature, in unison saying, we need to have COVID-style lockdowns for the climate on energy lockdowns using the same template we did for COVID. And that same template is what we're going to see. Emergency powers.
Starting point is 00:33:59 The whole point is the chinification of the once free West. Bypass democracy. This is a moral imperative. It's an emergency. We don't have time to borrow ourselves with the process of democracy. We've got to do this. This is where we are. And that's why a long roundabout way of answering your question, they don't give a bleep about debate. It's not necessary. They're morally superior to us. So that's what you see coming here in the near future is the COVID crisis is going to morph into what we're seeing. I mean, there's been enough talk about it, but a climate, COVID lockdowns into a climate lockdown essentially is what you're seeing. Yeah, well, that's what they're advocating for. And actually what we're seeing is we're seeing the Great Reset inaction since March of 2020.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Now, let me explain. If we were having this conversation in 1993 or something on George W. George H. W. Bush, and he was president, he left in 93. He had called for a new world order. And there was a lot of shadowy conspiracy theory. Oh, there's a new world order. This is, you know, the Bilderbergs. This is all these different groups.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The council on foreign relations. But it was shadowy and it didn't really affect your life. Fast forward. Everyone's life has been affected. Everyone's life is being affected. Here's the tenants, the Great Reit. It comes from the World Economic Forum, but it's a collusion between the United Nations,
Starting point is 00:35:24 world health, all of the Fortune 500 companies that go, all the world leaders, the cabinets. They go through a training program. The head of it has bragged that half of the cabinets in countries like Canada are World Economic Forum graduates. We penetrate the cabinets, is what Klaus Schwab says. But here's where we're actually seeing the Great Rees.
Starting point is 00:35:44 This isn't a theoretical thing. We're living to it. They're collapsing our energy supply, forcing shortages. And we're seeing this globally. We're seeing it particularly in Europe, particularly in the U.S. I haven't followed Canada as much. Are you guys facing massive blackouts this winter, but we sure are here, especially in places like California, even Texas.
Starting point is 00:36:04 How's Canada? I got to be honest. I think we're doing okay, but I live in Alberta where, like, there's just energy glory and I think it's going to be expensive at times, but I haven't seen anything on shortages. You know, I guess it's because of what you previously said. They couldn't do the solar and wind mandates there because it just would have been so absurd.
Starting point is 00:36:25 As you mentioned, you know, weeks of below 40 degrees, negative 40. So it's not as bad. But here's the thing. Okay, they're creating now energy shortages across the world, including Canada. They're going after high yield agriculture. The Netherlands farms are trying to shut down over 11,000 Netherlands farmers, chiefly small independent family run,
Starting point is 00:36:44 generational owned farms, not the ones that are owned Bill Gates, America's largest farmland owner, China gobbling up farmland equity asset firms. They're not going to, those aren't the ones that are going to close. It's the ones that are going to be against the woke agenda that aren't going to go along with the net zero agenda. They're shutting it down because they say the climate can't handle the agriculture because of the nitrous oxide emissions in the atmosphere, creating more warming. So this is, in the Netherlands, it's the number one meat exporter in Europe. They're shutting down the agriculture. Australia just started the same thing going after high-yield agriculture, decimate farming. They're going to artificially create expensive and potentially food shortages.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Down there we have California announcing the end of the internal gas powered car. 14 states set to follow. Biden administration loves it. World Bank has announced they're going to stop funding or they need to stop funding money for gas powered cars at the automaker level. Australian banks are going to stop giving car loans if you choose to buy a gas powered car because it's it's bad for the earth. And then the final thing is First Amendment. You know, this is government in the United States here, we have an amendment that says you can't violate free speech. Well, so what the Biden administration has done and under the Great Reset, you have a corporate government collusion. So it's not really the government per se. It's this private company. And aren't you a free
Starting point is 00:38:00 marketer? You can't be against a private company. They can do what they want. Meanwhile, we're finding just this week, Freedom Information Act, Biden administration gave lists of individuals to remove from social media and the internet. Social media was companies got it. Yes, we're on it. Delete it. Here's a website. Get rid of this. We're on it. We're on it. We delete it. So this corporate government collusion. Just remember, big tech censorship is government censorship. So this is what we're witnessing. Collapse of food, transportation, energy, and your ability to, for free speech. Those are all tenants, the Great Reset. Those are all accelerated post-COVID lockdowns. That is where the Great Reset comes. It's called a
Starting point is 00:38:38 narrow, rare opportunity by which we can reset the global order. And that's exactly what they're doing. They're collapsing current systems to rebuild back up in their vision of a sustainable society. Well, you told me off the start of this. We're going to aim to talk about some positives. Right now you've painted me a very bleak picture mark. I was going to give you 10 seconds of positive. Like, we need to fight, blah, blah, blah. And then go gouge your eyes out. It's over. Good night. Good night. Where is the positive here? You know, like, where is the positive? The positive is the Netherlands Farm Rebellion.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They are taking over the capital. The farmers aren't taking it. The freedom fighters, the convoy in Canada was a huge positive. All the protests throughout Europe and England and France and Germany against the Vax mandates, all the protests in New Zealand and Australia, not always covered by the media. The respite is there. But what we need is we need the ability to start changing the narrative as well. And where it comes is I know your conservative party in Canada or I guess the against big government because I don't want to give confusing terms.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's always different. The liberal party can be conservative. But anyway, they are very weak from everything I've seen. And I can't remember you have the lady who's your minority spokesman against Trudeau and the parliament. What's her name? she's maybe mid-50s blonde hair. Anyway, I follow Canadian politics. She's like the spokesman for the minority in Canada.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Jeez, Louise, I feel like a complete moron right now, Mark. I can't think of her name. Anyway, I'm drawing blanks on her thinking. I watch her, I could look it up, but your listeners might know. But I watched her extensively during the Freedom Convoy. And the problem is they're just, they're not, nowhere near as strong. If we're going to have leaders opposing this, we need to change the narrative. They can't be intimidated by being called a COVID denier, a COVID lockdown denier, or a climate denier.
Starting point is 00:40:39 We need to change the narrative. And in the book, I go through the example of the school board, the localest smallest level, people couldn't have foreseen it. Angry parents showing up at school boards in the United States. I profile a few key places, one of them being Virginia, which literally changed national politics. Angry parents showed up arguing against a critical race theory, against transgender ideology, against COVID theater, masking kids against the social distancing and lockdowns, putting their kids in plastic bubbles or playing a saxophone with a mask on and a slit to put the, I mean, it's insane stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:15 They were arrested, dragged out, meetings got ugly. The U.S. Department of Justice declared that many of these parents were, you know, considered domestic terrorists because they were fighting the school boards. This toppled a Democratic state of Virginia and it went to a Republican state. for the first time, shocked the country, shocked the Democrats. New Jersey, almost the same thing happened without as much rebellion, and that shocked them. So the Democratic Party did focus groups, and I write about this in the last chapter. As reported by the New York Times, they found that their own base wanted to return to normal. Once these elections happened, the Democratic Party announced
Starting point is 00:41:52 the mayors, the science had changed, and now that, you know, that we can remove the lockdowns and the VASC mandates in the United States and all the major cities. So the science had changed. The political science had changed. So because of these elections, because of these angry parents spurring a collapse of the political order, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Washington dropped the Vax mandates almost immediately after these. And this is, I conclude this in, just to show you the power of protests at the localist level of government.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah, the power of the power. the people. That's what we saw here in Canada when you come back to the Freedom Convoy. You know, like everybody said, oh, no, they were going to drop the mandates. They're going to drop the mandates. I'm like, I don't think you should fool yourself that way because as soon as that started to happen and there was a leg to stand on, maybe they wanted to, maybe they didn't. I have no idea. But as soon as they saw how much the population was in favor of what was going on with the truckers, I mean, here in Alberta, Saskatchewan, things started to be. to drop very quickly, like rapidly.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like they almost overnight started to open things up. And you go, oh, right? And I think the population started to understand that, that not only just protesting, but like a focused protest that the population is on board with is very, very, very impactful. Absolutely. And you know, you can't always predict what's going to work, what's not. I give the example of the Berlin Wall in the book in the last chapter. the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, live on CNN, not because the East German government said,
Starting point is 00:43:35 you know, 40 years of Soviet oppression in Eastern Europe, let's end it, let's tear down the wall. It ended because the people of East Germany in a million different ways expressed that they were no longer willing to tolerate or live under tyranny. And the writing was on the wall and they'd had enough and it was a spontaneous moment in human history. This is the kind of thing we need to do. But we need to focus and we need to understand the narratives. We need to understand what's coming at us. And just to be clear, because I don't think I actually laid out, the great reset, which I write about in the book, began in June of 2020, the narrow, narrow, narrow window of opportunity to reset the world from the world economic form.
Starting point is 00:44:11 But their goals are very simple. You'll own nothing and it'll be happy. He'll have no privacy. Life will never be better. You won't be eating any more meat. Climate change will be the number one priority. And the U.S. will no longer be a superpower. These are their goals and priorities.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And if you look at it from that lens, you know, they're going after everything. They're going after when they bankrupt the economy and you have the largest transfer wealth from poor and middle class to the wealthy during a lockdown. And everyone loves a lockdown. And climate activists then pile on and say, if we can do this for a virus, we can do it for climate because climate activists had called for planned recessions to fight global warming for years as part of a economic degrowth movement. So what they do is that's where equity asset firms come in.
Starting point is 00:44:54 That's where China comes in. That's where Bill Gates spying up farmland. what's going to happen in the Netherlands. When these poor family generational owned farms collapse, they're either going to be converted to something else or equity asset firms are going to come in. So it's this shift not only of money to fewer people, concentration of wealth. I sound like Bernie Sanders now, but it's also decisions and of all the decisions of your life is all going to concentrated to fewer and fewer hands. In other words, people didn't vote to have energy shortages and fossil fuels ban. We didn't vote to ban the gas power car. California was an executive order than an unelected, a bureaucratic board decided it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 We didn't vote to have stop eating meat, but that's their goal. That's what they're going to take us. We didn't vote to end car ownership. But the World Economics Forum is pushing that. The UK Transportation Secretary actually said earlier this year that owning a car is outdated 20th century thinking. They're going for freedom of movement here and a climate emergency on top of the continuing COVID emergency. I don't know about Canada, but we're still living under the COVID emergency. Joe Biden's extended it every possible chance he gets. Well, I mean, as it, if you're Canadian and you're unvaccinated, you can't come into the United States, right?
Starting point is 00:46:06 So you leave the country. They let you leave the Canada? You can go to a few different places that are allowing it now. But, you know, our biggest border crossing is the United States. And if you're not, don't have the COVID shot. That's a U.S. rule. And on the way back. And that's important to mention.
Starting point is 00:46:24 What's the guy's name, the tennis player who was going to play in the U.S. U.S. Open. Djokovic. Djokovic. The Biden administration was asked about that, and their answer was chilling. Well, we have no saying that. You know, that's a CDC guideline. You know, what can we do about it?
Starting point is 00:46:38 You know, we have no say in that. Yeah, we'd love the guy to come play, but we can't control it. This is where it comes. This is the great reset in action. Elected officials either in reality or in practice claim they have no authority because this deep state, administrative state behind the scenes, has all the power. In other words, we'd love the guy. to come. But what are we going to do? The sentence for disease control, that's their guidelines.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You know, take it up with them. They're an unelected bureaucracy. How do you take it up with them? They have no accountability to anyone. So this is what we're dealing with. And that's where they want a WHO pandemic treaty. That's the other scary thing in the book. I detail if they get this. And Biden administration was pushing hard for it. I'm sure Justin Trudeau would be all for it. A Bill Gates funded scientist at the WHO could declare a pandemic emergency and you'd have global lockdowns. Global internet. Global internet shut. down. Yeah, global travel ban, global vaccine mandates. That's their ultimate goal because just like climate, we can't have national sovereignty. This is a global problem. We've got to all,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and all they mean when they say global globalization, it means fewer and fewer people deciding what's best for the rest of us. It means we have less choice and less freedom, less democracy. It's that simple. That's the great reset. That's what my book's about. No reason to buy it. Don't buy it. I just told you everything. I'm kidding. I tell you what. As a listener, if they wanted to find your book. Where do they go to find it? One, I'm sure it's pretty easy. But two, what's the name of it? Yada, yada, yada. It's, you can buy it on Amazon. And I've gotten a lot of pushback people on Twitter and other places saying, you trash Amazon on the book and you talk about, you know, how they profited and, you know, all the other business is closed. And here you are, you know, now you're
Starting point is 00:48:15 selling your book on Amazon. Well, if Amazon's willing to sell a great reset book and climate denial books, you can't, you can't necessarily fight that. But, you know, you can buy it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Walmart. You can also go to climate depot.com, which will take you probably to Amazon. But the book is called The Great Reset, Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. That's the title of the book. And I sometimes feel like I guess there was Donald Trump on David Letterman
Starting point is 00:48:39 when he was railing about China. And then he was pushing his new tie line. And David Letterman goes, and where was your ties made? And Donald Trump looks just like, oh, made in China. It's like, oh, do boo-o-o-bang, you know, rim shot. I'll put a I'll put a link in the in the show notes for people. Make it nice and easy. That way they can just click and it takes them right to them.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Here, before I let you go, Mark, let's do the final question brought to you by Crew Master Transport. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald's supporters of the podcast since the very beginning. It's his words. He says you're going to stand behind something. If you're going to stand behind something, then stand behind it. What's one thing Mark stands behind?
Starting point is 00:49:14 I have a feeling that I'm going to have to ask this question first. I keep saying this because after, an hour, while not quite an hour, I know kind of exactly where you're standing. But what's one thing Mark stands behind? I stand on, I'm probably the most at this point against globalization and for as local control as possible. That's sort of my guiding principle. If you read the book, you realize that the more you can have local control, even of your dogs barking, but the where you can have local control of your political economic decisions, the better off society is the more you give it to further and further away, the more tyranny you're going to be
Starting point is 00:49:53 on their post. So that's the biggest thing is local control, decentralization in terms of my guiding political principle. Well, I appreciate you giving me some time. I hope I can entice you to come back on here in the future. Either way, yeah, it's been an enjoyable, you know, 45 minutes-ish, and I appreciate you giving me some time this morning. Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it.

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