Shaun Newman Podcast - #332 - Jess Moskaluke

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

Three time CCMA Female Artist of the Year hopped on to discuss her journey into the music industry and her first time headlining a tour across Canada.  Tickets to see Jess at the Vic Juba on November 12th: https://tickets.vicjubatheatre.ca/ November 5th SNP Presents: QDM & 2's.   Get your tickets here: https://snp.ticketleap.com/snp-presents-qdm--222-minutes Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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I hope everybody's weekend was good. I recorded this before I left for the Dusty Man tournament. We had her first game Thursday night, and we have our second tonight. It's Friday. So I recorded this because I'm like, you know, I don't know what happens at the Dusty Man. And I hope I, well, I hope we enjoy ourselves. I hope everybody has fun. But certainly I'm like, I don't want to leave this up to Sunday night in case, you know, festivities go long, if you will.

But either way, we got a big weekend here. And I hope wherever you're at, you had a great weekend. I know in my hometown of home on, the tournament is something you mark on your calendar every year. And I'm sure everybody can relate to having a couple different events that they have like that. You know, this interview today with Jess is a way of trying to help out the Vic Chuba Theater. They obviously here in Lloyd Minster, they have a bunch of acts come through and trying to work with them a little bit and trying to support and promote what they do there because it's a beautiful facility here in Lloyd Minster. So this is kind of off the beaten path for me a little bit. You kind of hear that in the interview.

I got nervous before this one, which is just, you know, you guys, I remember all these people about, like, controversial topics, and then I have one that's not controversial whatsoever, and I'm nervous for it. I, like, laugh at myself. I'm like, this is the most ridiculous thing in the world. But, hey, I mean, that's what gets me out of the bed, gets me out of bed in the morning. So I certainly enjoyed sitting and having a chat. It was, you know, way different than what I've done here in the last, you know, recent past.

Like, geez, I haven't done something similar to this in a while. I mean, obviously, Paul Brands been on the show multiple times, but super cool to have her sit down with me, a good old-fashioned small-town SaaS girl. So we have a lot of fun, you know, for the short time she's on the show. Either way, let's get to the episode sponsors today. Canadians for Truth of our nonprofit organization consisting of Canadians who believe in honesty, integrity, and principal leadership in government,

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for more information, visit them at Hancock, Petroleum, dat, CA. She's a small town Saskatchewan country music star with a platinum single, cheap wine, and cigarettes. In 2017, she won the Juno for Country Album of the Year. In 2018, the CCMA album of the year and a three-time CCMA female artist of the year. I'm talking about Jess Moskuluk. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Jess Moskaluk, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast.

Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Jess Moskaloog. So first off, ma'am, thanks for hopping on with me. My pleasure. Bright and early. I'm more impressed with you than I am with myself. I don't know. I got three young kids.

And so besides, I was saying to you before we start, we started the Dusty Man Memorial Hockey tournament this weekend in Hillmont. So besides that, normally, I'm, you know, to get out of the house, it's my wife who's not upset, but it's like I'm sneaking out on some early morning duties, if you will. So this, for me, you throw a coffee in me in a way we go. This is kind of standard operation, you know? That's not too bad then. Okay. Well, that makes me feel better. Now, what we do here, you know, I'd love to sit here and say that I'm a giant country music, or even that's what the show is. But Jess, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to throw it to you. I want you to tell the listeners,

because probably everybody knows who you are, but I'm going to assume that there's going to be a few that don't. And I'm curious, who is Jess Moskuluk? And what would you like to say to that? I don't care how far you go back or how short you keep. Sounds good. Well, the short of it is that Jess Moskuluk is a small town Saskatchewan. I grew up in Langenberg. I currently reside in Rokenville, Saskatchewan, and I make and write and record and perform country music for a living. here's the question small town sask girl were you always going to be a country music star because your rise has been it's been interesting to watch or cool to watch like it's been you know kind of like a rocket ship if you will um was this always the plan or did you have something else uh cooked up when

you were younger i always knew that music would be a part of my life in some way um but my parents and i appreciate this about them were very realistic so when i was going to to high school. I loved singing. I had won a ton of different competitions and things were going really well. So we all kind of knew that I like was decent at singing. But we didn't really expect it to be a career path until it just started becoming that. I went to university for two years. I was studying criminal justice essentially. I wanted to be in the parole or probation's profession, I suppose. Jess Moskalo. the parole loss. Exactly. Yeah. It rolls right off your tongue. Really. But I ended up actually

getting an artist development deal as well as my first publishing deal in Nashville. An artist development deal is exactly what it sounds like. A publishing deal is a deal for songwriters, which I was not. So I learned how to songwrite. That was kind of the point of this specific publishing deal, which is very unique. That's not necessarily a common thing. But all that to say, I was in university and these opportunities were coming up that may never come up again. So my family and I had a chat and I was like, would you hate me if I took a university break? Because I don't know if this is ever going to happen again.

So I am still on that university break. What was that feeling like? You know, you sit there and you got not at all mapped out, but I mean, you kind of got an idea. You're sitting in university. You're like, okay, I'm going to be a parole officer here in a few years. And that sounds pretty cool and unique and whatever. And I'm sure there's a bit of a backstory on why you chose that profession. But, you know, then the door opens up of like, well, there's an opportunity here to go full time or at least explore that option.

And I may only get one crack at this. That must have been exciting, but also maybe terrifying at the same time to like really break from where you were headed you know what it was both of those things for sure but if i can be honest it was also a relief um because i was also doing you talked about my rise and it's a little bit wonky it's it was quick and then over here and then it went over here i was also doing youtube at the time so i was doing a lot of youtube covers and i was working on that with a group of my musical friends that lived in LA. So I was spending a week out of every month in LA to make music to garner a fan base. And then after that, I was spending an additional week every month in Nashville

to craft songs to work on writing. So I was not I was not doing good in school because I was in, I was gone for two weeks out of every month. And I just tried to schedule it around when there were exams so I wouldn't miss exams. And so it was a huge relief to be like, okay, this is working. You can take a break from the thing that most people work their butts off. I had to put university on the back burner because this other thing was happening. So it was exciting. It was scary while I was doing all of it, but it was a huge relief when I finally was able to be like, this is your focus. This is your priority now. That is a cool story. I didn't realize both. So you were going to L.A. to film music videos, covers, to put on YouTube?

Yeah, mostly covers. It just was that we had kind of found a system that we thought really worked with the algorithm. And it was releasing a video every 7 to 14 days. And I didn't have the time or the skill to write new material, record new material, and release a brand new original music video every 7 to 14 days. So I would go once a week, batch, bunch of content we would do like I think it was five videos every time I went and then we would schedule them for like release so that there was constantly music coming out what year was that

like how long ago was that um I guess it would have been in in about I want to say like 2009 to 2000 maybe the the reason the reason I bring it up is you know today 22 that seems like a really like, I'm sure like everybody's trying to do that, right? Like put out things on YouTube because YouTube is this ginormous platform. And even back then it was a big platform, but not quite the same. It was on like maybe early stages, if you will. It was. Yeah. That's a really, I guess I'm just like, that must have been a little, not like a hairbrain idea. Maybe that's like standard operation. Even back then, was a standard operation back then? It became that, but not for everybody. You've YouTube almost became its own genre.

And I know that sounds a little bit crazy, but there really was a scene, which people are like, why did you have to go to L.A.? And I always respond because that's where my friends were that were doing this. That's where that community was. And so I went there and it just worked.

But now back then, you know, I didn't just have this beautiful camera or I didn't have, you know, my phone that has, three cameras on the front. Like it just was different. I didn't have, you didn't, you couldn't necessarily do that in your home. And I didn't have the skills at the time to do anything like that in terms of the technical

side of it. So now, you know, with the rise of TikTok, people can do just like a verse and a chorus of a song and they can record it on their phone and it looks maybe not just as good. And it maybe doesn't sound just as good, but it can get pretty close. So it sounds crazy to those, you know, generally. Z that can just do it at home now. Yeah, it's crazy to think how far we've come. Because in 2006, we biked across Canada and Twitter was, you know, maybe Twitter was a thing.

I can't remember now, but like I didn't have a cell phone, right? Yeah. I was literally going into like libraries and coffee shops where they had Wi-Fi so we could send emails to update people. Like, think about that. That's crazy. That's wild. Yeah, so like.

I can't imagine. So to hear you talk about being, you know, not one of the first people to use YouTube. but to like really take a strategy like that, it's really been a strategic way to get into the music industry then, which is pretty cool to be honest. It's really cool now as well because we had a challenge for a little while

and maybe this is more industry talk than your listeners care to hear, but we had a hard time translating that to what I wanted to do and that was to write and record and release my own music. And, you know, I wanted to release that to radio in Canada, but the demographics were so different. I had a massive following in Germany of all places from YouTube because YouTube doesn't necessarily have a, you know, geographical hindrance. It reaches everywhere.

So that was a little bit of a challenge. You're talking to a podcaster. Literally, I got some weird spots that mainly, mainly Canada, right, because they talk to a lot of Canadian people, but it has no borders. So you get things following. Why is that? You talk about massive falling in Germany. Have you gone and performed there then? That's the thing.

I still haven't. And over these past few years, I'm finally just getting to meet some of those fans that I made, gosh, plenty of years ago. We finally have been able to perform in, you know, in the UK and in Australia.

And that's been crazy because people are like, I've been following you since whatever cover they've liked. And I just, it's so. wild that it's taken us this long and it's taken such a roundabout way it took me writing and releasing and recording my own songs and having success here in Canada then to finally get around to those fans that have been here since before a lot of the Canadian fans. It is a pretty crazy thought when you think about it. You start YouTube videos and then you have your progression and to go to pretty much

the other side of the world in Australia or even the UK for that matter. That's not, I mean, obviously it's close, but it's not not close. And to have like, you know, a show and people just losing their mind for you, it must be a surreal experience? Totally. Yeah. And I think just to see what, like to think about what they fell in love with. And it was mostly covers.

We did have a few originals that they really related to, which was cool. But just the thought of me having this whole entire career before I got to get out there was crazy. Like they fell in love with the covers. That's how they met me. And they stayed for all these songs that I wrote about my life and things that I've experienced. And they were really there throughout the whole learning process for me. It's just, there's so many crazy things about it when you really dig in.

You know, one of the, one of the cool things I thought I've seen from you. Like I really enjoyed MapDod. I think, you know, a lot of people did, especially coming from. small town, Saskatchewan, you know, it kind of resonates. But I think it was, if memory serves me correct, it was the behind the scenes of that video where you said something along the lines of, you don't have to live in a big city to be successful because you don't, you know, country music, you know, and I've had Paul Brandt on the show multiple times and we've talked about Nashville a lot, right? Like the push to be in Nashville and you need to be in Nashville. And

certainly Paul Brandt has done it his own way. Um, I see. see you doing something similar because like you said you you you I think you said you live in rokenville uh which I mean is about as far off the beaten path as you're going to get um what's uh what has it been about being out in the small town instead of being in the glam and the big city and everything else it's a lot of things but for me the biggest thing is um is logistical which sounds so silly but I travel for a lot of living. Like I just said, I spend, I'm used to spending a week in LA, a week in Nashville, two weeks in Australia, maybe a month in the UK. And that's before I even talk about Canada. We're just about to get ready on a six-week tour where I won't be home at all. And like, I spend a lot of time away from home. So it didn't ever really make sense to me to move away from home to then make it one more trip that when I want to go home for Christmas or when I want to spend, the day with my mom that I have to like travel again and you know there's not one aside from

Nashville I guess there's not one city that I frequent more than any other really so I thought well what would be the goal of moving what would be the point um you know especially with zoom now you and I are not in the same city right now and it feels like we're at least able to get a little bit of face time in which is lovely but it just never made sense to me to move further away from all the people that I want to be closest to. I guess that makes actually kind of perfect sense. You know, I guess I looked at it. I was like, why Rokenville?

You know, like, you talk about logistics. The first day, I'm like, logistics. Like, think of going home to minus 40 in the cold winter and having to drive those roads, you know, like. Yeah, that's not fun. I won't lie. All of us Saskatchewan folk can agree that, yeah, I think I would take somewhere to the south, except then again,

And I mean, Canadian winter is Canadian winter. And when you grow up in it, you almost, you know, not long for it. But, I mean, at the same time, it's a special breed of people. It is. And you know what? That does suck. I'm not going to lie and pretend that I love winters, especially in Saskatchew and of all places. But in the road, like, I'm two and a half hours from the airport.

That's the worst part. I actually enjoy the drive to the airport that I make what feels like 100 times a week. But the drive back is not fun when you just want to be home with your husband and your dogs and you don't want to be traveling anymore. You just want to land and be home. I always envy those people that have someone waiting for them at the airport to drive like two minutes home. But other than that, it's, I don't know, it's worth the price, I guess. You mentioned husband. You've been married now, I think, four years.

Yeah. Close. All right. Cool. Good research. How difficult or does he come on the road? I don't know. Or how difficult is that?

Or has that just been your relationship since the get-go? It really, it kind of has. We started dating when I was kind of, I was just making the decision. I was just on the fence of whether I was going to take the development deal that we chatted about or quit university or come home. So that's where we started. So that was just the beginning, really.

So we're both used to me traveling. He knows that my band and my label and my crew are all my family, and he treats them like his family as well. Is it difficult to be away? Yeah, for sure, still, especially after the pandemic where we got to be together for the longest we had ever been in 10 years. It's difficult. He doesn't come on the road.

It doesn't make sense to us because it seems silly that he would take five or six weeks off of his job to come and join me while I do mine. We'd rather take a week or too often go to Hawaii and both not work. So it's difficult. It's not without its challenges, but we do work well this way. Thank God. I can understand. I've been married now. Geez, John, you're on the spot. Eight years. And I think every relationship has its ways that you know, obviously we don't spend that much time away from each other, but you have your ways that you find structure and work. Does he have a tour spot, though, when you're like,

I'm heading to wherever, where he's like, anytime you go on there, though, I want to go and I want to come and enjoy it and see the sights and sounds and, you know, everything else. I think that it's different every time, but it is funny you should say that because the one thing the pandemic did, and I don't love talking about the pandemic, but it did bring some good things out of it.

the one thing was that he kind of realized, man, I have missed a lot of shows. Like, I wish that I could come and experience some of these things and spend more time seeing what you do. So after that, like this past summer, he really did spend more time on the road. And the one place that he really wanted to come to because he hadn't yet been was Prince Edward Island. So we had a show in Cavendish, Cavendish Beach Music Festival. And it's one of my favorite festivals ever. And so we we spent the whole weekend there. We actually got stuck there an extra day. It was perfect because of the flights.

So that was one place that he was like, yep, I will come anytime you have a show here. You know, PEI is a beautiful little spot, that little tiny island. Like, I mean, geez, you can almost walk across it. I'm being a little bit facetious, but you get the point. What, you know, you mentioned that for him.

And I, I'm sure every spot you go and sing is, is a fun spot. You know, I got to see you live. me and my brother were just literally talking about this like two years ago maybe you came to kid scotty alberto which is just on the outskirts of lloyd minster and um i don't go see a ton of live music not because i don't enjoy it just because i feel like you know somehow i don't have the time which sounds really silly but then again i think it's no doesn't and you're just but but you uh you were fantastic that night i was like holy man like uh oh thank you that was really that was really good um and anytime time you can get a group of people, you know, in a, I don't know, in a situation where it's,

you know, tables and things up dancing. Does that make sense, right? Like, it's not really, you know you're doing something right. Or at least I think you're doing something right. But do you have a spot where you're like, man, you know, I can't wait to go back here. You talk about Cavendish. Is that the spot or is there like, you know, is it closer to your hometown? Is it somewhere in Saskatchew? I don't know. Because I'm sure there's like vibes like, you know, hockey player. You go into certain barns or arenas and you just like, there's a vibe there. It's like super cool to suit up and go play. Is the same thing getting on stage? I assume you have like a place you're like, oh yeah, let's let's go. Yeah. I mean, I since we were just talking about the East Coast,

every time we play Halifax, I feel that way. They bring it. It's almost like they know that it's a little bit harder for artists to get out to the East Coast for whatever reason. Again, logistically, it's sometimes not that easy. And they party. Stampede is always so much fun. Calgary's a great country music city. And I do love playing at home. That's always really cool and it's sentimental and it really does kind of put things into perspective. Once again, like how far you've come because we're always looking forward and we rarely get the chance to look back, but that's always a good way to do it is to play at home. But it's really stressful to play at home because you have everybody in their dog asking for tickets, asking what time the show starts asking us, asking that. And I'm just like, it's, I mean,

it seems like it shouldn't be a big deal and it should be easier. But there's always, there's always added complications and people who want favors when you're playing in your hometown. So sometimes it's nice to play a place like Halifax, where I don't really know a lot of people. Um, it just, it, the people there treat you like you live there. How about this? Uh, before I start, uh, I get, I get like pregame jitters before every interview. I never thought I'd find something like that. That was something in hockey, you know, before a big game, you get the pregame jitters. Before interviews, I was laughing at myself. I'm like, why am I nervous this morning? Jeez, anyways, it could have been the coffee for all I know. And I was just, you know, here we go. But I have my little pregame ritual, which people always laugh about. And sometimes I forget. And it, it's, uh, it comes on at the start.

of when somebody hops on, but I listen to a little acedasy, a little, uh, uh, for those about to rock. Anyways, people probably see in the line, but, but it just, I don't know. I, I, I feel like I should be listening to meditation and calm myself down, but I always like to get amped up. Before you go on for a show, do you got a little, uh, you got a little like pregame ritual? Yeah, there's a few things that we do. Um, of course, warming up is crucial vocally. Um, I also, there's a few new things that we've done. A new, vocal routine kind of thing that I've been doing that's been really helpful. I have a, it's called the vocal mister. It's literally like a, it's a, you humidify your vocal cords with a saline

solution. So I do that for four minutes. It looks like I'm vaping. I look ridiculous. Um, and then we completely counteract that with a shot of whiskey. The band all does a cheers and we do just the tiniest little shot of whiskey before the show. And we all, um, we all, I don't know why, why this started, but we all, like, hit elbows. I don't know why, but that's been a thing that we do every single time just to say, have a good show. And there's a playlist that we've all created together as a band of, like, songs that pump us up, whether it's just a song from like my childhood that makes me get excited or whether it's a country,

is it country music you're listening to before or is it like rock? Sometimes. It's a whole mishmash. Does that get you fired up? What's your song? What's your song? What's you fired up? It depends on the day.

Right now, I would say it's Kane Brown. Like, I love country music. I love that song. But there's so many different ones. Like, there's a lot of Arkells on that playlist. Gosh, I would have to open it up because there's so many songs that I don't even really know. I got to host my first, not my first, one of my live, my most recent live show in Calgary. And people were laughing because I had ACBC just, I was like, I got to get in the mode here, right?

Like, this is. Yeah. I'm ready to go. And so I'm always curious if I'm the only nut who does that, but it's cool. You don't have like, I wear the same socks every time, you know, kind of thing because that, you know, I got the ritual. You're not, you're not that crazy. You're not like that. Like, it's got to happen this way.

No. And there have been times where we're like, oh, no, we forgot to do elbows or we didn't do our shot. And like, nothing happens. It just feels better. It just kind of like puts us all in the same place and the same mindset at the same time. It just feels warm and fuzzy to just do that thing. that only we do. Yeah, it's something that goes across not only hockey and sports,

but anytime you're on the stage or, you know, something that, you know, I should, I should ask it to more people. But I feel like anytime you're doing something that's going to take you out of your comfort zone, I feel like getting on a stage, even though that's your jam and that's your arena, that's where you want to be. Yeah. At the same time, it's, you know, you got to step up your game and perform and everything else.

Yeah. you got a busy couple months coming up here you know you got the the the mad dot tour which begins November 1st in Ottawa you're coming here to Lloydminster November 12th which I think people are excited for at the Vic Juba um how exciting is it to be going back on tour after you know I know you don't like talk about COVID but I mean for a musician who loves getting out in front of people, it's been kind of like a hiatus on a grand, like everyone has been. So how excited are you to get back on tour to go across Canada to be performing? And, you know, I don't know how many different places, Jess, but quite a few. How excited are you for that? I'm so excited. For all of

the reasons that you just listed. But on top of that, this is actually my first headline tour. So I've always been the support act. Yeah, I've toured with that guy you were talking about. before Paul Brand, I've toured with him a trillion times. And that's amazing. And I've learned so much. And it's been such an incredible experience. But there's something to be said for having my fans here. They're just mine. And that's really special. So I am so over the moon excited. It's been cool to, like, craft everything from the VIP experience, like the meet and greets, to the set list, to how much time I want to be on stage, to who I want to bring on the road with me. me and who we want to use for a bus and who we want to use for a, you know, a production company, everything.

All those decisions are mine and that's a lot of work. But it's also really cool to choose who you want to support and who you want to give business to. And it's all of it. Every single aspect of it has been incredible and a learning experience and really just so great. I can't wait to actually physically now, after all of that, get on the road and just do the thing that I've been wanting to do for since 2008.

Yeah, that's, that's, uh, uh, you know, um, uh, people think, uh, success happens overnight, right? Yeah, like, and when you think about it, 2008 to now to your first time headlining, that's been, uh, you know, like, that's put, that's putting in the work, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a goal of mine to do for so long. And of course, the pandemic put us back at least two years.

But, you know, it's just, I think the timing does feel right now. I don't know if two years ago would have been the right time. Maybe it would have. Maybe it wouldn't have. It's impossible to say. But I'm glad we waited. I'm glad that now we can go out there with a set that, you know, we feel like there's lots of songs that people know,

not just like one or two that people know in love. It's not just cheap wine and cigarettes anymore, you know. So it's kind of cool of that. We'll probably play it. I feel I don't need to even bring this up, but I will anyways, because if there's, there's somewhere you want to guide people to, certainly, you know, in today's world, if I want to get tickets to your show, like literally put that into Google, and I'm sure it's going to throw me to eight different sites that just give you the opportunity.

But with your upcoming tour, Ottawa, November 1st, and then a whole list, if people want to follow along or want to see where you're going to or things like that. Where would you direct it? Honestly, we've got it set up so well on my website. I would just say go to jess moscaloop.com and if you hit the events tab, it's got everything that I'm performing at for the rest of this year. And you can buy tickets pretty well right on there. There's a link to any show you want to go. It'll take you to the right venue to buy the tickets. Okay, final. Then your final question before I let you out of here. Is it we always end with the crewmaster final question. a crewmaster. They've been a sponsor the podcast since the very beginning. If you're going to

stand behind something, then stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing Jess stands behind? Ooh, I don't know why this is the first thing that pops into my mind, but rescuing animals. Probably because I'm looking at my dogs right now. I feel like there's just so many good animals out there that don't have homes. Where did you, where did you rescue your animal? We rescued our oldest fur baby, Nala, from Spirit of Hope in Winnipeg. And Blue, we risk, our youngest fur baby, we rescued from paws and claws in Yorkton, Saskatchewan. Blue is that's a sweet name. We, our dog that is our rescue, Larange, Forest Fires up up north in Saskatchewan.

I got them North Battleford. So I can relate. There's dogs. I get it. Do they come on the road with you? No, I really did consider it this time. I like sometimes we travel, well, most of the time we travel by plane, but this time it makes more sense that we can travel by tour bus,

which is so much nicer. So I was like, do we need a bus dog maybe? But it feels so mean to take them off of a 20-acre farm and put them on this tiny little bus with 11 other guys. Yeah. So I probably won't. Well, I appreciate you giving me a little bit of time this morning. I hope I'm getting you out on time.

And like I say, for anyone here in Lloyd Minster, November 12th at the Vic Juba Theater, certainly got it marked in the calendar because I'll probably try and bring the wife out for a date. And we don't get a whole lot of those and try and make an evening of it. Either way, I appreciate you hopping on and doing this with me and look forward to, you know, where are, I never know where the roads go, but somehow along the way, I'm sure we'll cross pass again. You know, Saskatchewan is a strange animal because it's so unique compared to, I think, the rest of the world. I just think of, I agree. I just think of the stretch of highway you're on.

You got quick dick, like not that far away and tough. And then yourself coming out of there. And I think, I don't know what's on the horizon for not only, you but him and everybody else that comes out of this little province of ours. But it's cool to watch and follow along. Well, I appreciate that very much. What a fun interview. Thanks for hanging with me this morning. You bet.