Shaun Newman Podcast - #334 - Randy Schiller

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

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Talking about Randy Schiller. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Randy Schiller, and we're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today, I'm joined by Randy Schiller. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Thank you for inviting me.

now um i don't know maybe uh i assume in uh you know on the one side of the border here in lloyd minster obviously we we sit right on the the edge of alberta and saskatchewan i assume there's a lot of Saskatchewanites that know all about randy schiller but maybe maybe uh for the listenership randy we could do a little bit of a background on you and we'll start from there and and we'll see where it goes okay thank you well uh hopefully my background will have some interest for your viewers and not cause them to fall asleep. But I believe it lends for the need for the freedom of information

and how deep the fraud runs. I live in Wavering, Saskatchewan, been here for quite a few years. I'll go back to my youth. I held little interest in politics during my teenage years, but I always knew I was conservative. Around the age of 14, I noticed the aspects of socialism

that the conservatives ignored. I found that the conservatives would have the leftists on the run but would consistently fall into traps and not use that same leftist methods to their advantage. Basically, they would just end up chasing their own tails. When I was 26,

I worked for a provincial crown. My union was telling me how to vote. It was against my principles. They were always telling you. to devote NDP. If I was to counter their arguments, I needed to be the smartest in the room. So that thus spawned my need and educating for education for politics. It was not until I was 50s when I understood and discovered Saul Olinsky and as rules for

radicals. I don't know. Have you heard of that at all show? I actually have. I've literally got about a chapter into it though, so I haven't read the entire thing yet. That's good. It's a very worthwhile read. What about it, Randy,

sticks out to you about that specific book? Oh, geez. There's only 13 chapters, and every one is so, I want to say the word succinct for the leftist and how to manipulate people. Basically, they can, oh, I don't even want to go there

because I, no, that would take me away I'm not about to speak on. Well, that's all right. I can bring you back. We can hope. We got plenty of time. So don't worry about time. We got plenty of time.

This Rules for Radical's book in the first chapter, that's pretty much what it's laying out, is basically how over the course of time you can essentially twist and turn things to work for the left side of the argument. Yeah. Yeah. And is that what the rest of the book then is about? Basically, yeah, and how to do it, and how to manipulate the people.

So when you saw that, then you're like, well, we got to find something for the opposite side, because the opposite can be true then as well? Yeah, yeah, because I thought, well, geez, why doesn't somebody conservative write something to counter that? And for, you know, for 40 years, I found nothing. I end up writing my own book, a naked leftist, which I self-published in 2018. But that's a topic for a different time. On a personal note, I was raised in a PFRA community pasture, so I consider myself grassroots. I've worked various jobs around the province of Saskatchewan and even in Alberta, the provost, Lloydminster area.

most of which my jobs are in the oil and gas industry. By trade, I'm an interprovincial mill right. And last fall, I earned my life license and my Canadian investment funds, so I can sell life insurance and mutual funds. I've been married 35 years, which I'm very proud of. Well, congratulations on that. That's a big accomplishment. Yeah.

Also, I was active in my community, in church community, until they told me I couldn't come to church, maskless, of course. And my hobbies are a little bit eclectic. I have a black belt and karate. And I enjoy powerlifting. I started lifting weights when I was 14 and I just haven't stopped. And I'm three times provincial powerlifting champion. And I'm also a 2020 Canadian national power lifting champion.

I'm also an aspiring screenwriter and I'm an author like I mentioned earlier. when you talk about being eclectic, that is an interesting mix there. Yes. A couple things. I'm going to start with marriage, 35 years. What have you learned over the course of 35 years of being married to the same woman and having a healthy relationship? I assume I think anyone that can go to the distance like that, you got to have a little give and take and probably some a little bit of luck and a couple other things in there as well. but what is it

you know I'm always curious I've been married now eight years and certainly we've had just probably like everybody else you have your bumps on the road and everything else but wouldn't change it for the world

and hopefully I think I got it right like I feel pretty good about it but I look at somebody who's married 35 years and I go I wonder what wisdom you have to pass along to maybe somebody's starting out communication is key also you just mentioned it earlier

give and take you have to give and take a little bit but you also need some spare free time from each other as well so you know do things like you myself weight lifting of karate but also my wife ends up end up doing the same thing so she's a brown belt

going for a black belt and she's actually better at karate than I am the truth but she would have stuck with it you would have been black belt before I was. Where else do I go with that? Well, and then the other thing I was curious about is go back to, you were talking about your union days and how they wanted you to vote a certain way,

and it kind of went against your principles. So you had to, you know, learn back then. Well, if I'm going to defend myself, I need to be informed. I need to do some research. I probably need to have some facts that they don't, you know. And that's a, I think, Well, honestly, I think COVID's taught that to a lot of people, right? It's one thing to just be like something seems off.

But if you can't articulate what's off or you can't explain why or you can't, you know, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, your argument is pretty mute. Nobody is really going to listen to it because you're not really saying anything. When you go back to that young age and learning that lesson, A, that's a pretty powerful lesson to learn early on. Did it work? Did it start to change anything in the union or was it just beneficial for yourself? It was beneficial for myself.

There's no way you can change the union, even though you might find a few like-minded people within your ranks. But, yeah, no, it's hard to change that union, that mentality is just really ingrained for the, you know, leftist, the socialist ideals. You know, I got to stop saying this, and I've had people tell me I should relate. But, you know, like in the political world, I am a newbie, right? I've only been paying attention for a few years now, certainly in Alberta with the rise of Daniel Smith and having her on the show and different things like that.

I've really understood that there's an opportunity or like the next big thing happening in Alberta is like, geez, they're literally going to have 100,000 people vote on who the new premier is, right? So like, let's talk about that. But when you talk about unions voting a certain way and wanting you to vote a certain way and things like that, I'm like, huh, it's just, it's those things. that a newbie stepping into it, you don't understand how the game kind of works. You know, like how the different factions play out into a given election and where all the

votes are coming from. And it's very interesting to slowly wait or maybe I'm jumping in the pool. I don't know what I'm doing. But to hear that, Randy, is interesting to me. Yeah. And I can add to that. educating yourself has been interesting me as well. I've got to meet some very influential people over my time,

you know, in the last 30 or 40 years since I started educating myself. And because I was educating myself, I started to get involved in politics of all things, which I held no interest, because I wanted to make sure that we maintain our conservative values and our freedoms. Unfortunately, they were starting, you know, being eroded. I know it's that way back in the 80s.

it just continues and it's gone so far the pendulum has swung so far to the left now i can't see it ever coming back without a major coup you really you can't you can't see it coming back at all unfortunately i i don't i think it's gone without it's going to have to be a total collapse coup is not a good word uh collapse is probably a better better fitting word you know you look at where we're sitting right now. And you look at where we're sitting right now and you wonder how much further left it can really go. Like I mean,

at this point, it's, it's like we're on the brink of collapse at times, I would say. Would you not? Yes. But anybody, I'm sure your listeners are aware of the World Economic Forum.

Oh, yes. Yeah. Woffers out there, like, you know, what they want to achieve is just, uh, it's so close right now.

If the masses don't wake up, I think we're, we're too far gone. Really? Yeah. What, what, how close, when you say we're real close, what, what, what, why do you say that? Why do you say, why do you say, why not think that we're further away than, just expand on that thought for me for a second.

Okay. Just from what, some of my political history is involved in there, too, I can expand more on that too later on here. But, what Trudeau's accomplished in his time in parliament and what's happened with the states, the states have verified that they can actually steal elections right or wrong whether you like Trump or not it was essentially two in that same as Obama he won he won that one by fraud as well

when you have some of the precincts in like say Ohio for example we get 110% of the vote and they're all voting Democrat you know there was fraud there was experimenting all along and I asked and unless the upcoming elections in the states or the midterms, I actually don't think the Republicans will take the House or retain the Senate.

I think the fraud is going to be so prevalent that the Democrats are going to win. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it. Well, I, uh, you know, I, so for the listener, Randy has your study list and I actually started reading through this it's on one of your posts and it's a study list of probably

I'm going to say 40 different topics somewhere in there from everywhere from Black Rock Club of Rome to WF you get it like a lot of these the listeners are going to know all about and I guess I'm a little more

I hope I'm a little more on the the cup is a little Fuller side of things because I look at, I actually look at Daniel Smith. I was told that wouldn't happen because of some of the things you just said, right? Corruption, the corporation or the whatever, the industry, the machine, they don't want that. And yet, Alberta has it. And although narrowly did get across the finish line. And now you get to see what she's saying and how she's conducting business.

And I wonder if things like that can't happen and start to happen. more so across North America. No? I hope so. I'm actually a perennial optimist. I always look into good things. But I also have a realist as well. Fair enough.

Well, you know, you got put on to my, put on to my radar because of all the freedom of information and protection of privacy act. Geez, I want to say FOIP. And then I'm like,

I actually have it sitting right in here in front of me. you did a bunch of foyps here in Saskatchewan. And I guess I'm just, what did you learn? Like, did you, did you know about foyps in the beginning? Or is this something you had to self,

kind of teach yourself through, through COVID? You can start wherever you want, Randy, because I think we all had our journey into COVID. And, and, and,

you know, I certainly heard about foyps along the way, but I never was one to go and do that. And yet, here's a guy, Randy, who says here and started doing it. I'm curious what you uncovered,

how you got there. Give us a story. Okay. I don't know if I should actually go back to my political history at all, involvement with the South Party and the conservative party, because it leads into part of the, in the process. So I'm going to start off,

this is a little bit boring, I'm like, I'm saying, but in 1996, 97, I was living in the Kinder's Day, and I became involved with the PC party, for the Saskatchewan, which became the SASS party. Around 2000, I ended up moving to Estabant, and I joined Doreen Eagles' team for the Sass Party. I worked myself up as a director to vice president before I left. In 2005, I moved back to Waver.

And I wanted to join the Sass Party Association there. But they were in transition. Brenda Bakken was retiring, and they didn't have anybody representing the riding yet. But after Dustin Duncan won, I can't remember the exact year. I went from a director to vice president to president. And for 15 years, I was also a provincial director. So I was on a first name basis with a lot of the MLAs in Saskatchewan.

I've actually had dinner with the premier a couple of times, former premier should say. Dustin Duncan, who I once considered to be a friend, at least twice asked me to be his campaign manager. So in order for him to do that, he has a little bit of trust in me, correct? Because of CDA and no aspects of thing. But now I have no respect for that man whatsoever. When COVID hit, I asked him along with the Premier and the Minister of Health

a bunch of questions concerning COVID. Because to me, what was happening just wasn't logical. anything that comes out of China isn't a leak, it's a plan flush. They have an objective in releasing their information. So to say that they had a pneumonia pandemic, I questioned it, what's it going to do to me financially, how is it going to affect me politically, and how is it going to affect my health? Financially, as an active stock trader, I had a really good solid plan,

so I wasn't worried there. my health as a power lifter I'm always looking after myself so I'm going to put that in God's hands politically that's where I had the largest questions what was China trying to achieve at that time I didn't I had no idea who the the WEF were the World Economic Forum but I had all these questions and then when Scott Moe come out without even a little bit of pandemic in Saskatchewan to say that we're going to lock down and flatten the curve. That concerning me deeply. There wasn't one hint of the hysteria or the stuff that was happening in China,

and all of a sudden we lost our freedoms, and there's nothing we could do about it. You were basically deemed non-essential in state at home. Again, I go back to the questions I asked through Dustin Duncan and the Premier, they would not answer those questions. These are questions that the mainstream media should have been asking are politicians and they weren't. Just, you know, simple little questions.

I didn't get an answer back from them and I told Dustin okay, I can't be part of this fascism. I'm no longer going to be part of the you know, the EDA, or not the DDA, the directory or the constituency association. I took him a month

to respond and basically his answer and I'm paraphrasing was I didn't know what to say. But to me, you know, honesty was the thing that should have been, should have been it. So, because when I have questions,

the first thing I want to do is I research and I verify. I don't trust, I basically verify the facts that are out there. And one of the first things that, you know, when the masking came out, I, I knew what the effectiveness of an N95 mask was.

Basically, it's like the ping pong bowl going through a chain link fence. Is the best analogy I can come up with? But I also knew when they came out with the masking stuff from work, if I wore a mask, that instantaneously my sinuses plug up. And I have a medical history of bad sinuses, and that can be verified. So I went to a doctor to get a mass exemption. This is where you're going to find interesting. The first doctor told me my personal health did not matter.

It was the benefit of the public good. The second doctor I went to said, I can give you a mask exemption for medical reasons, but I can no longer practice medicine in Saskatchewan. To me, that was very telling. Continuing on with that. So just second. The second doctor said if he gave you a medical exemption for a mask,

he would no longer be able to practice medicine, correct? I give him credit because he was honest with doing it. Yeah. It's stories like that, Randy, that should have perked everyone on. Yes. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but yeah. You're not the only one. just the amount of fear back then was,

was, you know, paralyzing. And, um, but carry on. I, that just blows me away that a doctor would say that out loud.

And, you know, that wouldn't raise warning bells everywhere. Certainly for you, it did. But, uh, even to the doctors saying it,

like that, that had to have been like, holy crap. I can't give a guy a medical exemption on a mask. Anyways. Yeah. Anyways, uh,

I'm going to say January 20, 21, I'm going to back up here a little bit. I met a local freedom group. But, no, to me, it's the hand of God direct meeting and direction. They just, they had a secret meeting. I was invited. I showed up.

And I liked what they had to say because they were into educating people. There wasn't a fight or, you know, subversive action. It was educating the masses. Over time, their trust of me allowed me to come into the court group. And by October, we were, by October of 2021, we were starting to coalesce and we wanted to actually, we organized ourselves in order to fight back. So we bet, and soon after we began with the notice of liabilities. So this is where my story was leading to, we noticed the liabilities and leading to the freedom of information. our goal for the notice of liabilities was to intimidate politicians and the public trustees to return our rights.

And if memory serves me correctly, within six weeks, our small group had done 3,000 lotus of liabilities. So we were pretty aggressive. But understanding politics and my past history within it, I knew the NOLs weren't going to get much of an action. They were just going to be ignored. So we needed a backup plan. So a couple of us within the group started to study the Canada criminal code. And I immediately read this book here. Everybody can read that.

Yeah, it's 2022 Martin's. What was the under Martin's annual criminal code? Yeah. Student edition. Yeah. So our intent was to use criminal code of Canada section 504, 505. And that essentially allows a private individual to lay information and to be filed in front of the justice of the peace and bypass, you know, the corrupt justice system. Because frankly, it surprised me that not one lawyer or one judge had challenged the provincial and the federal politicians on, you know, our loss of freedoms. It just blows me away that not one of them had.

So it means our system was corrupt right to the core, right to the, right, yeah, right deep to the core. Now, in order to lay information and delay charges, you need evidence. So last, you have to go and your charges go where the evidence leads. So that's where the freedom of information request born from was that idea, taking these people to court under the private 504, 505. How hard was it to do a freedom of information? Like, is it something that just every, you know, John Smith could just pick up and do tomorrow? Like, is it that easy or did you have to do a little bit of research?

But how easy is it? It's very, very, very easy. It can be a little intimidating and daunting, but yeah, it's very easy. And then freedom information. Act is rules under which people can apply for and receive access to public body records, correct? Yes. Yeah. So if it's ruled, if it's a government institution, you can do a Freedom of Information Act on them or to them.

Yeah. And also to your local authority. In Saskatchewan, I'm not too sure about the other jurisdictions in Canada, but that's Saskatchew, you have your freedom information. And then it's the most of the government. then you have your local authority, not your school boards, your municipality, like your mayor, also your,

excuse me, a big frog of my throat, which is surprising the SHA, Saskatchewan Health Authority, that is a local authority. So the rules are a little bit different than they are from a government institution. Now,

my goal was for going to court was to start small. I wanted to, if we had some losses, along the way you learn from them. So I started my first freedom information request with my Holy Family School Board. This was a school board that at one time I sat as a trustee. I helped write their mission and current mission and vision statements. So I sent my request into them and I'm seeking information.

At the same time, before the end of the day, I also sent the same request to the Ministry of health and to the Ministry of Education. And if you like, I'm going to read off what I wrote. Sure, sure. For my very first one. It's a little bit already, but my first request was all communication with respect to SARS COVID-19. I've listed off all the, you know, because I know how they're going to play with words.

So listed off all the names for COVID-19 and other related terminology such as Wuhan virus and all other and all related variants between Holy Family, school division, and its representatives, and the Minister of Education and its representatives. I did a similar one to the Ministry of Health as well. So that's where I started. That was my very first point. And how was it received, Randy?

Like, was it immediate? Did they know exactly what to do? Is this something where somebody just emailed back here? Here's the dump and carry on with life. Or was that a learning lesson in itself? That was learning lesson itself because immediately when I was, I actually hand delivered it when I walked in

because the school board is just not just three blocks for me but it took them off guard you can see the whiteness the color in their face disappear

and then I guess like who's on who's on the hook to make sure you get the information from the FOIP even with the school board is that the president's school board is like is that

whose job is it to make sure that you get it? Like, is there law stiff? Like, obviously there's a law stipulate, but can they just look at that and just tear it up and throw it in the garbage and say, sorry, Randy, see you later. theoretically, they possibly could because when I was going to discuss this later on, there actually isn't much repercussions for ignoring a FOIP. It's basically just a slap on the wrist.

Unfortunately, the way the laws read, which is very disheartening for people, normal people, But, yeah, even though it's legislation, there's not much for repercussions. So you walk this foype in, you give it to them. And they're like, okay, oh boy, here we go. Did it take a week, a month, six months? How long did it take for your information to come back to you? That's an interesting story. So within two weeks, I had sent the first one was December 20th of 2021.

Two weeks later, I gave them two more. foypes. Now, during this time, I was also fighting with the Saskatchewan Health Authority. I had my e-health records and my panorama records blocked. So maybe I'll go to that story later on because I think it's going to digress to my. But anyways, about a month after, I was continuing out with my foips, about a month into this, I could, I could tell that they didn't want to answer because I was getting letters, communication from the director of education, which is basically the head of the school board,

and she reports to the trustees, the board of trustees who were elected or supposed to be elected. But anyways, you can tell if she was stolen. I had two conversations with her on the phone. For 45 minutes, she wanted me to narrow down the scope and the time frame. You could tell if she didn't want to do the search for the records. But during that, I made sure I had a friend with me listening to the conversation so that I had, because I was eventually going to take these people to court. So I was looking for evidence.

But I also recorded my conversation, thankfully, and I did that because that proved beneficial later on. To continue with my story, but the end of January, all of a sudden I get a letter from the Office of the Information Privacy Committee. Commissioner, saying that the Holy Family wished to disregard my records request because they called it dexatious. And I was on a witch hunt and a bunch of other stuff. So I immediately responded to the Privacy Commissioner and rebutted what they had to say. And it's quite interesting to self. This is a Catholic institution that basically insinuated that I was nexatious. And basically, to defame my character is what they actually did.

Where am I going on with this story? Anyways, I replied to the Privacy Commission with my arguments, and about six to eight weeks later, I won the case. The Holy Family could not prove their allegations against me, but it was because of the recordings I did and my arguments that won for me. So they had to give me the information that was requested, free of charge because they failed to comply with legislation. So the legislation can work with you.

So when you get this, I don't know, is it a, is it a file? Like is it, what did you receive? Is it an email with just a whole bunch of communication? Well, what was it? Yeah. I wanted anything that was related to COVID, COVID related. COVID related. And I want to say the first request was,

something like 1,500 pages. The other one was 2,700 pages of documents. So when you're reading through this 1,500, Randy, the first one, let's stick just strictly on the school board for a second here. In the first 1,500 documents, you're reading through and I assume some of it, you know, is just trivial, meaningless junk. What was the nugget or the diamond or whatever, the gold that you found in the 1,500? that you're like, this is what I was looking for. Like when you read it, you're like, holy crap. Well, no, I can't say holy crap, but it was, was informative because they were having meetings

with the SHA and their local public health. And this is the second part. Once I get things going here, I want to have another review with the privacy commissioner, because I want all these records with these meetings that were happening. I want the minutes because it didn't provide me. me the minutes. But the one question that came, this is from our own director of education within the Holy Family.

And I'm just paraphrasing because I can't say, remember the exact quote. Are we to be agents of the SHA? I found that one very odd that they slipped that, uh, slipped that comment in. To me, that was very profound. That was, okay. I knew they were agents of the SHA, but they actually had the dirt. director of education, education questioning that. That's the information I was exactly looking for.

So they were having meetings, the school board was having private meetings with the South SASC health authority at the beginning and probably through the good part of COVID? Yeah. A lot of the information I was looking for was I wanted to find out the advice of what they were getting from these SHA officials and public health officials, you know, because they went above and beyond what was being recommended at the time for some of these things. Like, I know that when,

when, when Moe come out and, or I guess I should say the government come out and said, they recommend that, you know, the school, school closures. To me,

the recommend means recommend. But a lot of times it doesn't mean recommend. It's basically saying, you're closing doors in a nice, nice, gentle way. Yeah, it's all,

it's all how you interpret the words. right? Yeah, yeah. So I know they were interpreting some of these words a lot going above and beyond than what needed to be done. So after you have your first success, you got your first boypin, you actually get, you know, like, I mean, that must have been lack of a better term, exciting to be like, wow, I won and I got 1,500 documents.

You search through, you see, wow, they've been having some meetings that people aren't privy to, school board, SHA, you start to go, okay. You do a second FOI. How many FOIPS have you done up to this point? I'm going to say off the top of my head. I think it's 21. 21. 21.

And I've got about three more going on that I want to, that I've got planned to do for sure. Okay. So at a 21, how many, how many of you've got information back from? I'm waiting for the last one right now. I've got all information back from all of them. So you've got, at a 21, you've had 20. dumps of documents. There's a little bit of caveat to that because there was a couple of those

FOIPS. I'll just read off or we'll see. I had asked for the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Health and the Premier's office if they did a cost benefit analysis. And hopefully you're familiar with that term. Well, yeah.

So actually one of the ones I highlighted Randy was, and I'm going to quote you here, I also initiated foives that asked for cost-benefit analysis documents. Neither the Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, nor the Premier's office conducted cost-benefit analysis before or after initiating the restrictive shutdowns that removed our rights and freedoms. We witnessed a drug with little to no efficacy in preventing COVID being forced-courced and extorted upon us by our governments.

So that was, you did a FOIP on that, and then they all had to come back saying, no, we didn't do any cost-benefit. Yeah, but that's very interesting. I'll go back to that. I'm going to the Premier's office. I sent it to the Premier's office. The next day, this was late January, I was on the phone with somebody from his office for 45 minutes

explaining what a cost-benefit analysis was. At the end of the phone call, she assured me she knew what a cost-benefit analysis was. Three weeks later, I get an estimate back, $388,812 in some cents. and I'm looking through this estimate, you know, to how many pages it is. And there's not one mention of cost-benefit analysis. They were trying to overwhelm me with that 388,000 cost. What do you mean 388,000? When you do a FOIP, within the first 30 days, they're supposed to give you a response back.

And typically that response back is an estimate. estimate to how many or how many pages that there are and the cost involved. Now, in order for you to proceed with those FOIPS after you're getting that estimate, you have to do a down payment of half that amount. So they were saying it was going to cost you $38,000 to figure out if they'd done a cost-benefit analysis. Yes, yeah. And looking through the letter that she provided me, there was not one mention of cost-benefit analysis. So I challenged the Premier's office on that.

And that two weeks later they came back with no records existed. To me, that wasn't a refusal. And they didn't quote legislation because they can say this is, you know, privy to the government. You can't have it. It actually came back. No records existed. It's pretty crazy. It seems pretty crazy to me.

Or heavy-handed or maybe both. that when you're digging and they don't like you digging, they slap an exorbitant cost like that onto something as simple as check your records for this. Like I guess I didn't realize there was a, I guess I should have realized, but like what, you know, out of the 21 poips you've done, Randy, is there an average cost? You're kind of like, ah, I go in knowing it's going to be a thousand bucks. I assume $38,000.

You're not doing that every time. No, there is a charge and it's actually laid out. the legislation to the prices per page and whether you want paper or electronic. And incidentally, electronic costs is the same amount as the paper for whatever reason is what they want to charge you. And what do they charge? What then do they charge per page? Oh, I'd have to bring that up.

But I want to say it's 25 cents off the top of head. I could be wrong. Okay, okay. Yeah, just so people have ideas or an idea because there will be people who listen to this and go, oh, it's easy. Oh, I just got to do this. oh, and there's a cost associated. You know, it's good for people to hear all these different things,

even including myself, right? Like, it's not just like you get to do a foyp and it's all free and you get, you know, it's a bit of a process. So I appreciate you, it should be. It should be. But there's also a time, a fee for time, $15 an hour. I'll have to talk in my head again. For them to find it.

Yeah. Yeah. The amount of time, yeah. And that's why the cost was so big for the 388,000 to dig through the Premier's office, the $15 an hour and then the amount of pages I think it was 280,000 pages

is what they were going to provide me. I could be wrong in that I'm going to bring up my spreadsheet here because after a while I was starting to lose track of everything that I was doing. So I had to well I didn't mark it down

in my spreadsheet I'd have to dig through but how many pages it was. I want to say it was something like 280,000 pages of documents. I could be wrong in that. But anyway, just to keep track, I ended up developing my own spreadsheet. Just, you know, with all the big.

Yeah, just to keep on top of everything you're doing. Yes, because it is it. You go back to your question earlier, the comment that I wanted to make, and I forgot what it was, but it is a concerted effort when you send in a FOIP. They're supposed to have 30 days to respond. and, you know, to either provide the records or give you a cost estimate. And then once you get that, there's a flow, once you get the cost estimate, the clock stops.

So that 30 days no longer kind of stops. So from there, you have to reply as quick as possible or, and if you don't respond within 30 days, the freedom of information is done. It's null and void. So I was always very quick. when I responded, I responded back to them within a day. And I know they had my check within five days because it was cashed.

So now on the clock is restarted again. Now they're supposed to be started getting, that's where, again, they're supposed to get the information gathered. But they will also do a thing, but they don't give you an estimate right off the bat. They will do what they call a 30-day extension. And they're only supposed to do that once when it's how I know. interpret the legislation. So that's another way that they can stop you.

But also, if they have questions, that stops the clock too, because they want to get you to narrow down your scope, narrow down the time frame, be more tight with your description. What are you specifically looking at? I tried to be as tight as possible in my requests. So there wasn't much giving on that. and I know Holy Family really tried hard, tried hard pressing me to change my request.

I could pitch it a bit just to show that I was trying to work with them. So I knew things were going to get little sour later on. Well, sitting on where you sit now, when you look back at all your foips, and I mean, obviously you're still working through it. You know, you've had different, I don't know, not revelations, but you found different things out of the law. along the way.

What's some of the things you've stumbled across that you, you know, you think the average everyday person needs to, to know absolutely about, you know, like the fact they were having meetings. Yeah, I would say a lot of parents would want to know that.

You know, when you talk about the cost benefit analysis, I remember, I remember reading this. So I assume it was your work that somebody had, um, not parroted, but probably asked permission to use or something along that lines.

Um, but reading that and going, which is just crazy to me because you just go like you would think you would want to weigh the pros and cons before you started enacting things that was going to affect everyone. But that's just me. What else have you uncovered in Saskatchewan, Randy,

that's really been shocking or eye-opening to you? Okay, I'm going to start off with small here. Sure. Go back to my e-health and panorama records. Now, for some of your listeners out there, they might not know what panorama records. or that's where your public health basically records

all the vaccinations and stuff like that and that's the aspect where COVID you had COVID was public health that was coming out to you and contacting you all that records were in your panorama records and my understanding panorama is actually universal across Canada when you say panorama records

it doesn't matter what province you're in the term is used used that way so. But anyways, back in 2020, spring of 2021, my co-worker, and I had COVID.

Saturday afternoon, and I get a phone call saying my coworker tested positive, and I had to go test. And basically, before the end of the conversation was done, it was a coercion. They basically threatened me to get testing done as soon as possible.

So I got tested. But during, During my question, the public health, they were interviewing me, they were asking questions of what my health was like, and I said, I've got allergies right now. They recorded that down as COVID, COVID symptoms later on I discovered. But also, the way that you can tell they're going off a script. But they're also trying to manipulate me. I don't want my, the one lady that I talked to said, I don't want my son to get sick and die.

She immediately lost my, you know, up and then I wasn't, I was cooperative. Up until that, and after that I wasn't cooperative. I ended up hanging up on them. And about 10 minutes later, my wife comes into the room, the police, the Wavering City Police contacted her to talk to me, which I found very interesting. The Wavering City Police contacted my wife to talk to me. about not being cooperative with

Yeah, partially and understanding that I couldn't go to work as well For 14, you know, because for the COVID testing. Yeah. You couldn't go to work. And I was basically locked down in my home. Did I understand? Later on, I wish I said I didn't basically, I wish to hung up on them. Not answered this question.

As soon as I answered, yes, that I understood. I accepted the basic legal responsibilities. But that's a different story. But anyways, continuing on with my story, because I did a float to SHA for my personal health records, I found some what I believe to be fraudulent entries in my panorama records. So again, it goes towards me taking these people to court for the fraud that they're perpetrating. Now, I make sure I get my facts straight here.

Yeah, because my intent was to take them to court with those records. So that was the one nugget that I thought was very profound, that I had fraudulent entries in my health records saying that I had COVID and all the symptoms and such. And all these dates that were just in there that were just made up. Now, the next one that was profound, it wasn't really an official foype, but it goes back to talking with the Minister of Health and the Premier's office and Dustin Duncan. I also reached out to SHA with my questions that I asked

them. And I wanted to know the accuracy of the PCR testing because frankly, when you read it's the gold standard, that means bullshit. To put it bluntly. Because what does gold standard actually mean, right? Yeah. I question what was the

accuracy? Give me a percentage. I want to know. Because I'm reading up doing my own research and you're finding that sometimes the cycle thresholds because the way they're set so high, it's only 10% accuracy. And also Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR, I can't really say test because he claims it's not a test

because the PCR, what he invented was when you do it, it's only giving what you look, what you're looking for. So just about everybody is going to have that RNA or DNA is what they're looking for, example. And I'm actually not looking for this. the virus itself, looking for a genetic sequence in your DNA, which I'm going to, I should also help your viewers, listeners, hopefully they're aware of the DNA Act.

The DNA Act? Yes. What is the DNA Act? Okay, I'm just going to bring that up. Bill S201 is an act to prohibit and prevent genetic discrimination. this is how this is how it relates to PCR testing when you're getting your PCR testing they're taking your DNA

they're not searching you for a virus they're going through your DNA and I didn't realize this until after I had PCR I had my PCR testing so that was another nugget that I discovered not through the FOIP Citi sorry so them taking your DNA Randy are you

saying they're stockpiling the records of it then? That is part of my question. And my latest point that I'm still waiting that was supposed to be fulfilled back in late August, I'm still waiting for that information. They're promising they give it to me Friday, this Friday, but I'm not holding my breath. That's part of the question I have. Besides being the accuracy of the PCR test, what are they doing with your DNA material? because it goes back to inform

consent. And I want to say that's part of my argument, the SHA, when I take the, hopefully I can take them to court under the private because I don't,

but the only way I can afford it because I can't afford a lawyer, but unless I win the lottery sometime next week. Well, it'd be interesting to see what, what you find out on that one, on, you know, because I don't think any,

you know, you think of over the course of two years, how many times people got a PCR test, like a lot. You just, I don't know, I just assume it went in the garbage and you carried on with life. Yeah, but most people don't know that. And because I was reading some others, they said some jurisdictions are taking that DNA and they're further testing it to a third party labs outside.

To do what with it? That's just it. What are they doing with it? It does go outside to a third party lab for further testing. But what are they testing? Also, are they stockpiling, like you said earlier, are they stockpiling your DNA with your name on it for a national database,

your digital registry? It goes back to the digital ID. Am I a conspiracy theorist or is the critical thinking that I'm doing right now at the moment? Well, when it comes to conspiracy theories, certainly on this program, we've learned that you can say a lot of things and it don't take long and they start to unfold themselves. So like I have a hard time calling anything conspiracy at this point. It's like, you know, once again, I go back to Theo. I think I just literally said this.

Theo on the last interview is on lean back in his chair and said, nothing surprises me anymore. And I kind of have to reiterate that, you know, like nothing really says. surprise me anymore. Like I just, you know, I want everything to be on the up and up and up. And you keep finding out more and more that isn't that whatsoever. Yeah. None whatsoever.

Now, to go back to your question about the most profound one, the best point that I did was for adverse reactions to the SHA and to the Ministry of Health. The SHA, I'm going to read off verbatim what they told me here. Trying to find that. Okay. Because I set the same point to the Ministry of Health and to the SHA. The SHAE is not refusing to provide this information. We are not holders of this information.

I thought that statement was pretty profound. We are not holders of this information. Now, that was another long, ongoing battle, six months, just to get this information. But H.E.123-22G, which came back from the Ministry of Health, was to with respect to adverse reactions. I'm going to read off my question for the Ministry of Health for Adverse Reactions. With respect to COVID-19 and other related terminology, including variants, known and unknown, comprehensive details of all adverse reactions, including and not limited to suspected

and or verified adverse reactions from any and all vaccines, used to prevent COVID-19 and patients treated for COVID-19. Details should include and not limited to vaccine name, vaccine manufacturer, vaccine lot number, vaccination date, type of reaction, health region, patients age, patient sex, and number of doses received. That was a six month, that FOIP was first sent out January 24th, On January, on June, June 27th, I finally got the information. 122 pages that involved over 1,200 people.

There was at least seven deaths in those adverse reactions, but was also profound. 300 people had severe adverse reactions and basically were almost died. But the doctor told them to get a lot of. a second shot. Now, isn't that telling? Well, I just know on this show, I know five now that are decent friends, acquaintances, like, I shouldn't say that, teammates, you know, I played hockey with them over my career that all had adverse reactions and they were all told to get the second shot. And a lot of them were told to go to the hospital, get the second shot. So if anything went wrong, they'd be, you know, like, you get the point.

Like they're sitting there so they can. And then I go back to the paramedic Kate King. Listeners will remember Kate King. She's paramedic in North Amiton. And she had a coworker that had the risk of anaphylaxis shock. And they were still telling them to get the shot. And they're like, but if I get this, I pretty much die, right? Like, it can't be worth that.

And so that. You know, I guess that doesn't surprise me near as much as probably other people. It's great to hear. I think that it's like cemented in that that's in the records. For me, I've heard, you know, we heard about this all along the way and it made zero sense. That's maybe one of the most confusing things I've ever heard other than people were no longer thinking anymore. And this was no longer about health if it ever was about health. Because when you hear things like that, you're like, what in the F is going?

down. The troubling thing is they could see the numbers growing then of people having adverse reactions, dying, et cetera, and there was nothing. There was media blackout on it. I think that's maybe the most troubling thing that I think a lot of us have known for a long time, Randy, but hearing it again is just, it's really troubling, right? That you know people are dying. you know people are getting really bad adverse reactions and I question those numbers to be honest

like I wonder how much higher it is because how many people had something severe happen that never followed up with it or never got put in the reports etc etc because that's the next thing they talk about is how many of them uh you know just moved on with life or you know like it's within the first whatever week two weeks they pass away and it doesn't get counted as the vaccine, right? And stuff like that is probably more troubling. But overall is really troubling that public officials were seeing this in real time and not doing anything about it, or at least not opening up the dialogue on informed consent and everything else.

Just to go back to your comment there, I have four friends that I firmly believe they died of adverse reactions. not right away, but over, you know, within a month, they died of adverse reactions. Also have a couple friends that had severe adverse reactions that believed all but the garbage that was coming out of the SHA and stuff like that. Boy, are they on board now because right away they started to do their own research and are they pissed, you know, for being lied to. Now, I'll go back to the other comment, my understanding for an adverse reaction to be considered an adverse reaction.

You have to have three doctors to verify it. Now, I don't know if that's true, but this is what's been told to me by a couple nurses within the system. Even if it's more, even if it's more than one. Yeah. I mean, it could be 10. If it's more than one, that's insane. Yeah.

But I go back to, oh, man, I'm going to space on his name, and he's not going to like that. Jamie. Jamie Sinclair, military vet that I had on back in 2010 or 11. And I apologize to Jamie already because I'm a butcher the story a bit. But his son got the, I believe it's H1N1 vaccine and then lost all of his platelets. So he was like, you know, can quagulate, you know, bleeding from different spots on himself. So they rush from the hospital.

And he's like, well, could it be the vaccine? because, I mean, he literally just had it. And they're like, oh, no, no, it can never be that. Can never be that. So that's, I mean, that's 11 years ago, 10, you know, over a decade ago, where it's so evident and yet everybody swipes it away as well. So this isn't new in the medical system. It's just new on such a large scale and the rules that came into place and how the policies

and the politics, everything just clamped down on everybody, said, you're going to do this. And we're going to media blackout, anything that's, comes bad at this. Yeah. And I want to say one other thing, too, the biggest caveat to that adverse reactions, it's voluntary. So how many people did not, you know, knew they had an adverse reaction,

but they didn't want to, you know, they're too ashamed to admit it. Well, and the thing is, is it probably if it happens in the first 15 minutes, it gets caught. But if it happens two weeks later, they go, oh, well, that can't be. That's, I mean, that's just coincidence. Well, it's like most of us would write it down as coincidence, except for when it starts happening all the time. And you're like, okay, it's time to write coincidence off here and start paying attention what's actually going on.

Yeah. So I want to go back to that story about the adverse reactions too because I have to do a plug here. Back in this spring, I met two lovely ladies, beautiful, in every way, intelligence and their moxie. Christy Rogers and Dana LaDrew from Southalliance. There are two teachers that wanted to challenge the government and the SHA for informed consent. They too also did an adverse reaction, FOIP, but theirs was close to 30 pages long,

and the government come back with $2 million price tag for their estimate. So understanding that, and what I got back was very profound. And because when I first met those two ladies in Saskatoon, immediately I wanted to volunteer and help them. My political involvement was done. I wanted to get involved. And I thought these two women were best thing for Saskatchewan to be going forward and educating the masses and making some of these people accountable.

As far as I'm concerned, Scott Mowell and Shabob, they should be behind bars. But anyway, so immediately after getting my adverse reactions, I forwarded on to them because I knew they had some high-profile doctors and some other high-profile health practitioners under their wing that were volunteering in the background. And so they looked at my information for about a month and a half. and if you go to the Saskalance website, you'll see what they've got back from a certain doctor that's well noted in Canada. I won't mention his name, but they disseminated that information as well and circulated out.

Now, unfortunately, because of the death in Saskatoon, I believe her name was Carol Pierce, I could be wrong on that one, but coinciding with the release of... of Sask Alliance releasing that document, that adverse reaction went international. I happened to be listening. Somebody sent me an information that there was a podcast in the States and with yours that discussed the same thing in my adverse reactions.

And incidentally, I subscribed to an email called Conservative Videos. And again, they mentioned it as well. I thought that was profound. One of the things you helped uncover, Randy, is information that was like concrete, you know, that come from a government entity that shows what they were talking about, shows what they're doing, shows some of the hard numbers, shows that it was there all along. And that's really important for people. And it shows that it went around and different people talked about it because, you know, a lot of people, for a lot of people, the anecdotal, like, proof was sitting right in front of us all. But to see the numbers and hear that, you know,

that the agencies knew about it or what have you is really, well, helps confirm what they were seeing, essentially. Yeah. And incidentally, because of that death in Saskatoon, C-K-O-M did an article saying that nobody died from adverse reactions in

Saskatchewan. I don't know if you've seen that article, but so immediately when I got that discovered that, this is where okay I'm pissed now I'm no longer in the shadows as much as I was not trying to be in the shadows

but I couldn't get any traction okay I got to counter this narrative and I'm willing to get my face forward you know forefront because people need to start associating people that are behind like yourself and myself

and some of these other freedom fighters like Tamara Litch and Chris Barber you know, all these people, you have to have something you can associate with. The more of us that are coming forefront and speaking out, I think others will start speaking out. But anyways, going back to my comment there with the CKOM, I challenged him on that. I gave him my adverse reaction.

I gave him the original FOIP. And this is Sarah Mills's comment back. Bring that up. Hopefully I can find it. Oh, I'm not going to find it. But unfortunately, her comment was, I'm paraphrasing here, basically a brush off. If you have any,

oh, what's the term? Autopsy reports, I'd be glad to see them. Basically, that was it. She disregarded the entire 122 pages and said, provide me the autopsy reports. That was it. But she did edit her article a little bit, but still, still claims that there was nobody died in Saskatchewan from adverse reactions. It's just tough, you know, like, when you give someone compelling evidence to basically

contradict exactly what they wrote, you'd hope they'd look at it. You'd certainly hope they'd make maybe a bit of a public like, ooh, this has been brought to my attention and I didn't realize, but we've seen that time and time again, but that's not the case. Yeah. I'll just go back to right beginning of our podcast here. You asked me what I had learned, and that was one of the things I learned way back when I started doing,

you could prevent somebody like a socialist or leftist. I call them leftists now because it encompasses liberals, communist, socialists. You can present them the facts. It doesn't matter. It's all about feelings to them and what they believe. You can give concrete evidence, but just totally disregard it.

Well, Randy, as we close in on, we've been going now for a little bit, and I can't hold you here all morning. I know you got other things going on today. Is there anything that we've missed that you want to make sure people know about? Yes. Basically, I was going to give you some of my successes here, just to show that it does, as we've already discussed. So I've had two reviews with the Privacy Commissioner.

I've won them both. I've got one more in the system, and I plan on doing one more, a fourth review for the commissioner as soon as the third one is done. And I hope, I want everybody to be aware of SOSC Alliance, and I'm hoping that you'll actually invite them on your podcast one time,

because they do need some credit. Yeah, well, you're making a strong case for, who did you say, Christy Rogers and... Yeah, and Dene LaDrew. We'll maybe hook that up after we, after we get off this. But yeah, absolutely. Yeah, hopefully they're not,

they don't mind me saying their name. So we may want to edit that out later on. But yeah, Sasklands definitely for sure. They need to get some traction and get some, because the fight in the courts, you're going to need money. And unfortunately,

we're just tight on that. Kate, more successes. To me, every point that I've done is success, whether they provide information, or not because I'm learning. It's just the experience. I mentioned out the 123-122G. That is the big one. I guess now it's probably down to the process for the details here.

Because there is a little bit to know about this. I touched on it earlier. There's two different FOIPs. There's the LA, local authority FOIP and the regular freedom of information and privacy requests. The two different entities. So you need to understand and read the legislation for either one of those. And they do list the entities that, like, you know, at the back of the legislation to where they're going to. Yeah, within the appendix of the FOIP and LA FOIP regulations list Act applicable entities, it also has forms to initiate your requests.

So that's probably the biggest thing is, you know, is the paperwork, what is acceptable. And the forms are available. You can also find all these forms on the, what was formerly known as the Queen's printer, but now it's renamed the Publication Center. And that's on the Saskatchewan website. I'm sure Alberta would have something similar. And I touched earlier too about the process.

You know, you're supposed to have 30 days. Yep. Oh, I also wanted to mention too. And it seems like because I had so many foips going on at the same time, it seemed like even though they're spread out within, you know, a week here or a couple days. It seemed like when the responses came back, they were coordinated. It's almost like they sat together in the same office and were in the same cubicle and said,

okay, let's inundate them with, you know, with what we need responses. Because it seemed like every, it was always Friday, after 5 o'clock Friday evening, I would get multiple requests or responses from all these individual entities. didn't matter. It was the Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, SHA. It all came back the same day

on a Friday after 5 p.m. I don't think that should surprise anyone. I mean, if we're going to agree that some shady things went down and they knew about things, it doesn't surprise me one iota that they would do things

that are, you know, not on the up and up. I mean, all this stuff is condemning to the government and everything else, right? So it's, to sit there and think

they were, you know, trying to put it out, a certain time and everything else. I mean, no, that doesn't surprise me one bad. Yeah, I can see it happening once, but three times is when, you know, there's a pattern.

Okay, moving on. Okay, things you should know. I'm going to read off a little bit of verbatim here, right from the legislation. Right of access, right of access. Section 5 states, subject to this act and the regulations, every person has a right to and an application made in accordance with this part shall be permitted access to records that are in the possession

or under the control of government institution. I was reading off the right of access. Basically, I want to finish my story there that shall be permitted access to records that are in the possession or under the control of government institution. So you have a legal right to request this information. information. I also want to read off but in section 8 of the act, severability, because this is another argument where they come back back to you with and they start redacting records. Where a record contains information to which an applicant is refused to access, the heads shall give access to as such of the record as can reasonably be severed without disclosing the information of which the applicant has refused to access. Right now, I'm preparing a review to the commissioner, privacy commissioner, because

exactly that. The Ministry of Education didn't redact, they just withheld pages. I want the entire document. Because originally they quoted me something like 7,000 pages, and I ended up getting five. So leads to the secrecy there. And on note, Dustin Duncan, who I once considered to be a friend, is the minister of education. Just a little bit of note.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's a little bit ironic there. Well, I've, I was, you know, we, for the listener, Randy had his power go out. So we kind of had a little bit of, you know, certainly when they hear it, it'll be cut so they don't realize that. But it kind of broke up the conversation into where we were heading. And we were just going through some extra information that you've been,

you've been working on. You know, Randy, I'm, I guess I'm grateful that there's people such as yourself that get into the fine details. You know, I always say, uh, you know, like every, you can only do so much, right? Like one person can only do so much. It doesn't mean that it can't be influential in your own, you know, not in your own lane, but it kind of like wherever you're pulling. And, uh, I admire what you're doing.

And I, I go, uh, and sitting here, I'm, I'm just happy that I can, you know, talk about it with you, give you a little bit of a spotlight, because I literally just got off the phone with a lady going, oh, I got to learn more about FIF's. And I'm like, well, I'm literally talking to a guy who's, has been doing it. So it's super cool to start to maybe, even if it's just basic learning of how you did it,

some of the things that people should remember. And then some of the information you help expose in Saskatchew, I think for a lot of people, that's going to be extremely beneficial. And it'll be interesting to see where it goes. But before we, end the sit down. We always end with the Crude Master final question,

which is, you know, shuttle teeth and Tracy McDonnell, Crudmaster, they've been supporters of the podcast since the very beginning. But it's He's words, if you're going to stand behind a cause and stand behind it absolutely, what's one thing Randy stands behind?

Freedom. Strong conservative values. Well, I appreciate you coming on and doing this. The old power outage kind of broke it up a little bit right towards but we had a good solid hour in before anything really truly got off the rails. Not that it really got off the rails. But I appreciate you coming and doing this, Randy,

and sitting down with me this morning and look forward if, you know, if more things come up in your Forbes as you move along. You mentioned you got one outstanding and then a few more in the works. Please, you got my contact info now. Let's stay in touch and we'll see where it goes. Okay. Before we fully concluded,

I just wanted to, one other point I wanted to mention was that it may be daunting for some people to do a FOIP, but by all means you just have to be persistent and patient. There is a process. Also, even though I've done 21, I've also helped three other people, or I should say, do three other flights for other people. And I also co-wrote for another group as well. I won't mention their name. But if anybody has any questions regarding foips, by all means, I am receptive into having them reach out to me. And my email is quite simple. W.W.

So it's like Randy at Randyshiller.ca. And I should mention my web address is www. www.randyshiller.ca. So you can reach out to me. I do want to plug my book as well, The Naked Left, Leftus. You can read more about it on my website.

That's it. Don't be afraid. Go after them. The more information we get, I think the faster will return our freedoms. I appreciate it, Randy, and certainly I think a lot of people will appreciate the plug of being able to reach out to you if they have questions,

because that's, when you're starting out anything new, having somebody that kind of understands the process will be a huge benefit. So appreciate that. And like I say, let's stay in touch and we'll see what happens here in the coming months. Thank you.

And God bless.