Shaun Newman Podcast - #344 - Dr. Peter McCullough

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

Peter is back. He is facing lawsuits & having his medical credentials stripped, but nothing seems to slow him down. The decorated doctor has recently published a book with John Leake & continues to push back against the growing censorship of the medical profession.  Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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I'm talking about Dr. Peter McCullough. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Dr. Peter McCullough. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Mr. Dr. Peter McCullough. So, sir, thanks for coming back on.

It feels like it's been a while, but it hasn't been that long. But, I mean, it's been a bit of a break. How have you been? You've been a stalwart. I have to tell you that Canadian podcasters I love these guys. You guys have been slugging it out, particularly in the kind of the Midwest, northern provinces. I was on with someone the other day.

I think it was the whistle stop cafe, and they already had snow. It was like 30 degrees below zero. And I got to tell you what, you guys have been beacons of freedom. And down here in Texas, it's been sunny, reasonable. We're having a good football season. I have not paid attention to hockey, but hopefully you've got good news. a report on the Canadian teams. Well, I tell you what, we've had our ups and downs with the Oilers, but we won't go into that.

I'm glad to hear you doing well. Yes, we had our string of minus 30, and I think we were all going, oh, man, this is going to be a winner. It's warmed up briefly. I actually don't know what the temperature is today, probably about minus 10, but, I mean, what are you going to do? That's what life up here. Do you have snow on the ground, Sean?

Oh, yeah, close to probably a foot, I would say at least. Golly. Yeah, I got to come for a hot holiday down towards you, Peter. You have to. You know, it's a lone star state. The only state in the union where we are our own country for 10 years, the Republic of Texas. In fact, I'm a graduate of Baylor University. It was the only university founded during the time of the Republic, oldest university in Texas. But it's a great place that Texas symbolizes the great American West of freedom. Half the people here drive pickup trucks, including myself, it is a great state. And when it comes

at COVID-19, we've done reasonably well. We have had a reasonable approach to treating the illness. We essentially did not lock down. People in Texas like to go out and have barbecue and steaks and drink beer. They've been out doing that the entire time. We've only had four small universities mandate the vaccines. Rice University incarnate Word. Paul Quinn College, another one I can't remember, but all the big, well-known Texas universities had no vaccine mandate. So we've gotten through things pretty well. Well, it helps when you have leaders step it up and speaking openly about certainly what you've testified for and everything else.

And here in Alberta now with Premier Daniel Smith, you know, it's been an interesting little turn of events because she got elected in, geez, what was that, October, early October. And so it's been a little over a month of, having somebody who's not only apologized, but started to really shake the tree, if you will, of trying to get us out of this mindset of we're going to go back into boosting and mass and lockdowns and all these craziness. So it's been interesting on this side to have somebody speaking openly about it. And I mean, Texas is one of those states that pretty much had that

from the beginning, Peter. It's true, although our government, our governor has been, he's kind of a mixed report on him. He had executive orders, you know, banning vaccine mandates and vaccine discrimination. Did pretty well there. But it's been a mixed review. To my disappointment, he keeps extending the COVID-19 emergency. And so this declaration of a health emergency is fairly key for flows of money, what's called COVID countermeasure funding. And, and, and, unlimited powers. And I think what's happened is our leaders have become drunk on power, where now they can just make broad sweeping decisions. You haven't heard a single meeting about the budget or the deficit in the United States at all, none, as if the budgets don't

exist right now. Spending has gone wild with it's Democrat or Republican. We've spent 10% of our GDP on COVID countermeasures. And that's thrown us into an inflation. spiral, things seem to be unmoored in terms of fiscal responsibility. I was curious, you know, before we, you know, before like when we decided on this time and everything, I was like, you know, I wonder how Peter's actually been because, I mean, and you have been in the thick of it now for what feels like, I don't know, is it two years? Is it less? Is it more? It's going on three.

Going on three years when I, you know, basically. turned to face the illness, oriented my entire research team, changed all my scholarship, and my approach clinically. You know, I have a book that you featured Courage to face COVID-19. And so, you know, three years is a significant period of time. Well, it's a huge amount of time. Yeah. And now you got, you got the American Board of Internal Medicine, I believe, trying to take away your credentials. You got, like, you're getting, you're getting sued. You're getting all these crazy things. I'm like, you know, like, if I go back to the first time I had you on, Peter, you said something along the lines of, you know, these vaccines aren't going to work that we're

going to have breakthrough cases, you know, we're going to probably be able to, and I remember that being like, talk of the town, people were, you, you ruffled some feathers, so to speak, but here we sit, and everything you said back then is come to fruition. And yet the attacks continue, I guess I just asked you again. Like, how have you been? Like, just a personal straight. I'm holding up, but, you know, at least I can be credited with, with, you know, being very clear on this in the Hill, which is a Washington journalist, why they read nationally. In August of 2020, I published an op-ed.

I said the great gamble of the COVID-19 vaccine program. I said, it's a gamble. We've never had a shot in the arm ever start and stop an infection in the sinus. never. It would be a miracle if it worked. I mean, it was such a moon shot. There was no track record. Messenger RNA had never successfully been used as a vaccine vehicle before. And let alone no vaccine is in the arm has ever stopped anything in the sinus. It wasn't a nasal mist vaccine or anything like this. I mean, it literally had no chances from the start. And boy, has it been a snowball going down a a Calgary mountain at this point in time, you know, it's just, what can I say? I mean, every single

piece of information has come out on the vaccine since the release has been bad, 100% bad. And yet, our fearless leader says, you know, in order to protect yourself and others get vaccinated, get boosted. And the song and dance continues, you know, and I mean, I don't know about you, but at this point, I'm like, I just don't get it anymore. Like, at some point, the curtain has to just drop away and we've got to realize this doesn't work. Or is it a little more nefarious than that, Peter? It's hard to know. I mean, I take our leaders at face value.

Trudeau has been vaccinated, had COVID. Rochelle Lewinsky, our CDC director, President Biden. Virtually every public figure we know has been vaccinated, has gotten COVID. And it hasn't dawned on them that the vaccine's. may not work if they're getting the illness that the vaccines are supposed to prevent. You know, the FDA has claims that they put in the consent form, FAQ. The only claim the FDA thinks the vaccines have is that they prevent COVID-19. That's the only thing that exists in the consent form.

The most updated consent form is from the end of August 2022. I looked at it carefully. The FDA does not claim they stop transmission, that they reduce hospitalization and death, or reduce severity because they don't. And this whole issue of do they stop COVID-19? Well, you know, you have to ask the people who keep getting it over and over again in their vaccine status. It's obviously they don't.

You know, I noticed that Trudeau and Biden were wearing the same type of Asian flag jacket over at the G20. Sean, what was that? I mean, I tell you, for Trudeau, that's his ammo, you know? everywhere he goes, he dresses up. We all laugh about it, we chuckle about it, but it honestly makes me uncomfortable having him as our leader. I'm just like, that is what's representing us on the global stage. It is scary. Well, they're getting close to Klaus Schwab, the head of the World Economic Forum, wearing that breastplate. It looks like something right out of Darth Vader.

And with that kind of Swiss German accent, he reminds me of Ernst Stavos Blofeld, the chief villain in the Bond series, the older Blofeld. And I mentioned this on Laura Ingram one night. It was a Friday. We were working with the producers. We needed a good laugh. It was a tough week. And so the producers, you know, after my comment, which they knew was coming, they put up a picture of Klaus Schwab. Blofeld from the old Bond series side by side.

And Laura Ingram almost fell out of her chair. She was laughing so hard. She wasn't expecting that to come. And I said, boy, now, listen, they're suing me. They're trying to decertify me. But now I'm going to have Klaus Schwab and all the Davos police on me because of this wise crack about Blofeld and the similarity. You know, my co-author, John Leake, true crime author, he takes a different

different view. He thinks the World Economic Forum and Trudeau and these guys, they actually like this. That Schwab, he says they probably watch Bond movies. They probably do, you know, have a dream of being like the villain in Bond. That's an interesting thought. I know, you know, certainly enjoyed Mr. Lake last time he was on with you. I thought he had some very interesting thoughts to share with the audience and certainly got my brain going. You know, I always think they don't even pay attention, the world leaders. I just think they care less, you know, what us peasants think and by us peasants, I certainly mean myself, folks. Like, I just don't think they care.

Like, I just think they've got their own agenda and they're pushing on with it. You know, you bring up G20. This is what I wrote down. I had it in my notes. It's a digital health certificate using WHO standards. And then, and what they said was we support efforts to strengthen prevention and response to future pandemics that should capitalize and build on the success of the existing standards and digital COVID-19 certificates. That was the G20 Leaders Declaration. And I don't know

about you, Peter, that scares the shit out of me. I tell you, and all the G20 leaders signed off on it, just to give you some context, you know, the G20 ought to be addressing worldwide issues like inflation, economic disparities, conflict in different regions, trade agreements. Uh, You know, they're not outfitted to deal with complex health problems. And, you know, the health minister from Indonesia, he seemed to be the one most enthusiastic about this. He's not even a doctor. And when he was proposing on stage that in the next pandemic that there'll be vaccine certificates and testing and all be digital, he almost looked like he was salivating with power and control.

You could see him lathered up with this idea. It probably never occurred to him that the vaccines may not work, or it may not occur to him that the vaccines may not be safe, or the fact that tests are not reliable or shouldn't be done in people who, you know, don't have the illness. So, you know, there are people now who are just not considering the possibility that the vaccines won't work. I mean, this is extraordinary. I have a substact, Sean, just to point this out, it's called Courageous Discourse. So I'll preview what's going to come out tomorrow. There's a paper in 2021 by first author Kuzinski, Kuzinski. And he's in the division of bioethics at Loyola in Chicago. And he publishes a paper where he concludes that it is ethical.

It is completely ethical to give COVID-19 transplant candidates, the COVID-19 vaccine, organ transplant candidates, mandatorily, that it is prudent ethics to give these vulnerable people who are literally at the end of heart failure or lung failure or kidney failure to give them a COVID-19 vaccine. And, you know, he outlines it. They make official statements. This paper is so pious that they're convinced that this is ethical. And nowhere in the paper does Kuzinski of the authors consider that the vaccines may not work,

or they may not be safe, or they may damage organ transplant outcomes. It's not even considered in the paper. It's not even part of the balance of making this decision. And now we have papers come in, one by El Senad, within the last month, or so, sure enough, COVID-19 vaccines damaged lung transplant patients and put them into respiratory failure. Every antibody mediated rejection episode in lung transplant is a step towards death. There's a paper that vaccines ruin corneal transplant outcomes because the spike proteins installed and causes inflammation, immune system dysregulation. I mean, one could have seen this a mile away.

The last group we'd ever exposed to a genetic experimental immune system modifying vaccine would be transplant patients. But yet Kuzinski and the Indonesian health minister never consider that the vaccines may not be safe or may not work. That's the problem. They're completely blind to both safety and efficacy. What keeps you up at night? I mean, when I hear that, I'm like, it terrifies me that world leaders, people with a lot of influence, power, whatever we're going to call it, just don't even for a second think that maybe there's something that, I don't know, right? Like, maybe we should halt this and, like, maybe take a little bit of a deeper dive. What keeps Peter up? And, like,

what are you staring at here coming down the pipe going, that doesn't look good? And, like, we get a scream at the top of our lungs to make sure this doesn't happen. I tell you, the top of my list is sudden adult death syndrome. Top of my list. I mean, so we've had in the last month, Sean, some bombshell studies, bombshell. When Pfizer-Maderna in the United States received their letters for their biological licensing agreements, which said they could be approved if they followed these steps. One of the steps that they had to follow was do a prospective cohort study of vaccine-induced myocarditis, meaning they'd have to do a study where everybody, had baseline blood tests for heart damage like Chopin, EKG, Echo, at baseline, then take the vaccine

and go through the same battery tests afterwards. That's called prospective cohort state. That's the only way to know who's actually really getting damage. So none of the companies did the studies, Harvard and Duke and all the U.S. institutions. No, nobody would do the study. So Mansugian and colleagues from Thailand do a state-of-the-art study, state-of-the-art use roachsh Sheponin blood testing, which is what we use in hospitals today, state of the art, GE, ecocardiography, EKG, they do a great job. And they measure it in the second shot of Pfizer ages 13 to 18. What do they find? 2.3% of the kids get myocarditis. Two kids end up getting hospitalized. I mean, this is a disaster, 2.3%. And then the second paper came from Lepessek and colleagues

in the author group, Christian Mueller's very well-respected cardiologists. I know them personally, Basel, Switzerland, they do the same thing now with Chaponin in 777 health care workers. What do they find? 2.8% are getting heart damage. This is an astronomical number. About half of people don't even feel it. So this is what's happening, Chuck. People are getting heart damage for sure with the vaccines. A lot of them don't feel it. A scar is formed in the heart. And then an unlucky person, as the electrical conduction system goes down, it goes around the scar and forms an abnormal rhythm called ventricular tachycardia, which can start to make people pass out. It degenerates the ventricular fibrillation.

They're on the ground. It's CPR. It's ballgame. So the myocarditis leads to sudden death. It's a well-established relationship. Flavio Kadajiani, physician investigator. Brazilia, Brazil, has a publication out suggesting that catacolamines or adrenaline are the trigger for this sudden death. And it really is tractable. It's one of the reasons why when

there's myocarditis, even before COVID, we tell people they can't play sports. Very important. And there are two patterns in normal life where there's a surge of adrenaline or catacolone's. One is between three and six in the morning as part of the normal waking process. And the other, is during sports. And those are the two times where we're seeing record numbers of sudden deaths in young people, dying in their sleep and dying during sports or physical activity. And we see report after report after report. And so what I've said in separately, a really famous UK cardiologist is seen Malhotra. We've said it independently. They made a movie out of it now, the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation. It says until proven otherwise. That's the

the title of the documentary, meaning the next young person who dies, let's say playing hockey, you guys play a lot of hockey up there. They die playing hockey. And there's no prior antecedent illness. There's no motor vehicle accident, no suicide, no drug overdose. They die. It's the COVID-19 vaccine that's caused it until the parents come out and tell us, no, they didn't take the vaccine. So if the family comes clean and they say, nope, they didn't take the vaccine, it's. It's a lot. They It is the vaccine until proven otherwise. And in case after case after case, the families are silent. And so we know it's the vaccine that's causing it.

How long after somebody takes a vaccine can this sudden death adult syndrome form myocarditis? Like how are we talking, you know, once upon a time, I'd heard different doctors talk about, you know, within a week, two weeks, a couple months, you know, and then they, they started extending it longer because, I mean, obviously we have a little. more runtime and we start to see, oh, maybe this can be the longer out, right? Like, which is terrifying to think of, right? Like, I think just absolutely, you know, nobody wants to live in constant fear. But what have you been seeing, Peter? What have you guys been talking about when it comes to things like this? Well, let's take a VAERS, a vaccine, averse event reporting system.

Most of the action there is within 96 hours, but it does tail off for many months afterwards. That's for death and all-cause reports. In the fatal cases by Patone, Verma, Gil, Choi, a reasonable boundary is 30 days. That would be a regulatory boundary. If anything happens within 30 days, it's due to the vaccine. No questions. It's not even a debatable thing.

It's due to the vaccine. That's be according to data safety monitoring. But we know how this scar forms over time. So, you know, I have a suspicion that there's a tale of risk that's going to last for months afterwards now, months afterwards. And, you know, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, former coach Bruce Ariens in 2021 is in the press saying everyone's got to take the vaccine. It's the only way to return to normal.

He comes out and says in the fall of 2021, I guarantee every single coach and assistant and player on the bucks has taken the vaccine. Okay. Sure enough, October 22, Bruce Ariens is in the hospital. hospital four days, myocarditis, myocarditis. So I have to tell you, I'm concerned right now in the United States, we only have 10% of people taking vaccines. 10%. CDC says that's the rate right now. So any of the myocarditis we're seeing now is not from a fresh vaccine. It's probably from a tail of people who've had it in the last year or two. I feel like I'm going to answer my own question.

ridiculously right like like this has never happened before like there's never been a vaccine where you've seen like or I mean or is it nobody ever paid attention like this like to imagine that you've taken a vaccine a year ago and now we're going to have issues with your heart and everything else when you're talking about 10% and I think you know in Canada here I think it's even lower than that like we got a low uptake like I feel like it's a low uptake on on but I could be wrong on that. I've been wrong before. I just, you know, to me at times, I think, you know, the people who are pushing as hard as they can go, Peter, are going to push and push and push. But for a lot of people, they're just done with it. They moved on with life. They're,

you know, now that the lockdowns are relatively done, I mean, Canadians can't travel into the United States if they're unvaccinated, which is, you know, I got my own thoughts on that. But for a lot of people, they've kind of moved on for it. So if something happens a year later, And it's even myocarditis. I don't think they're drawing any line to that because they assume it's way too far gone. Right, right. You know, just a couple of points. This is such an interesting story.

You know, myocarditis, the FDA says the vaccines cause myocarditis. So us talking about it, we're not we're not conjecturing. This is a completely acknowledged problem. Do you know in 1992, Ralph Barrett at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill was experimenting with, with beta coronaviruses. And he showed in a large enough dose when you really infect him hard that you can cause myocarditis in rabbits as well as primate models. So coronaviruses are cardiotropic. And it was known since the 1990s. And so when SARS COVID-2 was, you know, was engineered by Ralph Barrett's group, the spike protein was engineered in work done by Barda, the funded by

Barta, the research arm of the military and by the NIH and then DARPA research armor the military, that indeed, you know, the process was there that known that coronaviruses could cause myocarditis. And no surprise. Do you know when COVID hit almost instantly our U.S. military had a screening program for myocarditis, almost immediately. And so did the NCAA Big Ten. They actually had a screening program for myocarditis. Every athlete who got COVID could actually get an MRI and cardiac troponins.

I mean, this was a big deal. Every military officer, they could barely find any myocarditis. It was possible, but no hospitalizations and deaths. And so, you know, everyone folded screening for myocarditis. And then the vaccines come out and they give a mega dose of the spike protein. And there's thousands of cases of myocarditis and nobody's got their screening programs open anymore. I mean, this is an astonishing blunder. Listen to these data. This is American data only. We are up to 9,148 cases of confirmed myopacarditis by the CDC in the open bear system. 9,000 cases. This could be underreported 30-fold. 30-fold. I mean, this is extraordinary. We could have 100,000. people with myocarditis out there. Do you know how many people before COVID ever got myocarditis

in the United States? About 400 to 800. That's it. Yeah, this is a massive. So every cardiologist is seeing this. I see people in my clinic with this, all different permutations, heart rhythms, chest pain, fluid around the heart, atrial fibrillation, blood clots. I mean, it's a disaster. It's a disaster. You know, I'm curious your thoughts on Anthony Fauci. You know, he, I had a lady on, Trish Wood, she does a podcast on the east side of Canada out in Ontario. She used to work for Fifth Estate and, you know, investigative journalist, very, very smart woman. And she talks about, talked about Fauci back around AIDS.

And the AIDS scare and everything else that came with it back in, I believe, early 90s, or maybe late 80s, you'd probably be able to adjust my timeline on that. But what she was talking about was, is they'd found different drugs, early treatments or preventative treatments, and Fauci wanted nothing to do with it. He kept pushing for the vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. So to her, what's gone on, especially with Fauci being a huge proponent of what's happened in the United States, she looked at it and just is like, well, this was happening, you know, 30 years prior just with a different scare.

And it was the same man, the same mentality, the same not looking at early treatments or, you know, different things that we've talked extensively about. Have you had the same thought process or what are your thoughts, Peter? Well, you know, I assisted Robert F. Kennedy in the editing of his book and I'm the most discussed doctor in the book, the real Anthony Fauci. And the middle part of the book does drag down on Anthony Fauci. But, you know, I was in practice at the time. I was a resident and then practicing doctor during the AIDS epidemic. And you know what? I tend to disagree.

He didn't have that much control over AIDS. The pharmaceutical company was in there. We were prescribing any drug we wanted to. There was no government control over anything in AIDS. So I just tend to disagree because I was there. I was practicing. I prescribed drugs for AIDS patients. He just didn't play a role.

And I think he's been assumed to have too much power and control during that era. Whereas correctly, I think he's had far too much power and control in the COVID-19 outbreak. You know, he's only a division chief at the NIH. And it's not a big division. The cardiology and cancer divisions kind of blow away his division. So he's not a large person in the NIH. And so for him to be elevated to this role is remarkable. You know, he's leaving in a few weeks, so he's stepping down.

And I looked at his departure notice on the NIH, where he's trying to chronicle his accomplishments in his career. There's no mention of COVID, as if the last three years of his life didn't occur. I thought it was the oddest, oddest departure notice ever. He talks about other things in his career. Yeah, you think for a man who says, you know, basically claims he's science. and the one thing he has not claimed, he's never claimed that he's ever faced a COVID patient. He's ever treated a COVID patient.

He's ever faced a vaccine injury. He's never claimed that. Neither has a surgeon general Murphy or coronavirus coordinator, Ja. In fact, Jao faced me in the historic November 19th, 2020 Senate hearings. And he was asked under oath by Senator Johnson, And Dr. Ja, have you ever seen a COVID patient? You ever treated a patient?

I mean, here we are talking about treatment brought in Dr. McCullough and other experts. And Jaa very sheepishly says, no, I've never seen or treated a COVID patient. And, you know, that guy has no role advising America on COVID. And social media blew up and people were furious. We've seen that with Deborah Birx, who was on the White House Task Force. You know, she's come out publicly and said, oh, we knew. these vaccines weren't going to work. We know people in the hospital, you know, have been fully vaccinated. You know, and people are saying, what? We took the vaccines and now you say that. You know, Scott Atlas,

who I recently had dinner with, I saw him a week or two ago in Des Moines. Scott's come out with his book and he believes incompetence plays a large role. In his book, he's very honest about it. He says, Fauci is incompetent. He's never seen a patient. He's clinically not competent. Scott points out that he can't pronounce certain medical words. I mean, so people give Fauci maybe a lot more credit than it deserves. According to Scott Atlas, who work with him, point blank, Scott says he's just frankly incompetent. He just doesn't understand complex issues in medicine or in a pandemic. Yeah, I tell you what, I wouldn't argue with them parts about the incompetence, except for when

you start to see how things have rolled out and how things can, there's almost a little too much strategy for it to be all incompetence. You know, like the latest one, and I used to laugh at this, and I should probably stop, but the latest one is Bill Gates again. I've been catching headlines for his death panels. You know, and he's talking about the last three months of a person's life, basically costing a fortune to keep them alive, and, you know, essentially, eventually that leads to death panels and whether or not you should keep, you know, and I'm paraphrasing, and certainly listeners,

go look at it for yourself. But here's another character in this weird story that we've been living that two years ago I would have given zero time a day and said, ah, he's just a rich billionaire. What does it matter? And then, you know, you mentioned close Schwab. And, you know, and then we bring up Fauci and now I'm going to bring up Bill Gates because it seems like these cast of characters have a little more influence than just incompetence. And Bill Gates, once again, you know, you got the G20s talking about. or the G20 talking about digital health certificates, whatever we're going to call them.

And now you've got Bill Gates talking about death panels. And I tell you what, Peter, I would laugh about it, except here in Canada we have this program called Made, medically assisted suicide. And that one is starting to catch a lot of headlines because of what it's doing, you know. And who can actually get it, you know, who can basically, basically, be medically assisted suicide and at different stages of life. Like this isn't just like you're 80 and you got stage four cancer and you're just like just the way you go. Like there's been stories coming out that like this is not good.

So I see death panels. I understand what can is going on. I'm going, oh boy. What do you see from your end when you think of Bill Gates and the things he's been, you know, saying over the course of a year? You know, in our book, Courage to face COVID-19, we do focus on Gates.

John Leake, an investigative true crime author. And, you know, Gates really had monopolistic tendency, antitrust tendencies from the very beginning. And, you know, that's the reason why he ultimately was, you know, Microsoft, you know, got in big trouble. And you had to do with the browsers. And he took all that entrepreneurial, you know, monopolistic tendencies to his foundation. And his public utterances are notable in the UK on one occasion, you know, he said that mass vaccination could be used to reduce world population. Yeah. It was on the front front of a UK newspaper. You know, why would he say that?

He said that, you know, it'll be the decade of the vaccines and he's had a 20 to one return on vaccines. These public utterances, Claude Schwab has said that. It's the fourth industrial revolution. In his book, COVID-19, The Great Reset, he said it's going to be a limited period of time, limited window to reset a new world order. And the fourth industrial revolution is changing the human body. I mean, these are public utterances of people. And look about, what I look about agencies.

I mean, the CDC website is a treasure trove. And you know, around 2012 or so, they had a vignette on the CDC website. website. People still, you know, have resurrected it from their prior downloads and screen captures. And it was called the zombie apocalypse. It was going to be a zombie illness that turn human beings into zombies. And in this scenario, human beings are supposed to wait in fear and then be saved by a vaccine so they wouldn't be turned into a zombie. You know, why does the CDC have that on their website? Why in the world did they have this on their website? when you think about it. You know, the CDC has had on their website that the COVID-19 vaccines

don't have any nanoparticles in them or any nanotrackers, nanotechnology. Why is that on the CDC website? These things are remarkable. You can't make this up. I mean, this is an agency that should have very scientific and very responsible things on there that doctors should rely on. You know, Gates, the Gates Foundation with the world economic forum did form CEPI in 2017. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation really funded this organization as a vaccine incubator. And CEPI put out a business plan. And their business plan in 2017 said there will be a series of worldwide pandemics. And there will be a response to each one.

And it's going to be mass vaccination, period. No treatment, nothing else. Why would they do these things? Why would they publish these things out there? You know, it goes deeper, and it's on my substack and on America Out Loud Talk Radio. Do you know DARPA, the research organization of the U.S. military in 2012? It's on their website. You can go check it out today.

They started a program called Adept P3, pandemic preparedness and protection. Adept P3 in 2012 said the military will use messaging. RNA to end pandemics within 60 days. It's on the U.S. website. I mean, the military website. You know, it looked like this was real. This was a funded program. We know now through lots of information revealed.

Again, it's on all the websites, and it's all, you know, very easily to locate, that AstraZeneca, and Johnson Johnson, the vaccines are largely made by emergent biosolutions, which is a U.S. defense biological contractor located in Bayview outside of Baltimore. That Moderna is made by national resilience. They've got 750,000 square feet national resilience does in Boston and Mississauga, Mississauga, Ontario. They acquired a company called Ologi, Bio, which had floor space in Florida, California, and Maryland.

I mean, these are extraordinary operations. Pfizer uses the Brovac Institute in South Africa and Euroforma laboratories in Brazil. Largely, it's the bio-entech that actually really owns the vaccine, not Pfizer. There is so much collaboration in the biodefacist area and the origin. of messenger RNA being the U.S. military, it does make one wonder, is this really a military operation? And military operations aren't subject to rules like FDA or other things. And is that the reason why this has gone on as long as it is? Because it's a military operation. When the vaccines were initially introduced by Alex Azar, HHS of the U.S., it was the Department of Defense that

offered him. And, you know, under emergency use authorization, previously that was strictly for the defense. It has never been used in the public. We've never used emergency use authorization for anything in the public. It's always been anthrax or something like this. It looks like worldwide, if you ask me, mass vaccination looks like a military operation, not a health operation, but a military operation. You know, when you start pulling at different strings, Peter, and you start like, oh man, that's sitting right there in front of Plainview, in plain view, where do you,

where does your mind go with all that? Like, I mean, you mentioned a military operation, okay, but, but I'm just like, but what,

what is that all about? It's really, Sean, it's going to be up to investigative journalists, podcasts like yourself. You know, a book that should be mandatory reading

is COVID-19 and the global predators. We are the prey by Peter and Ginger Breggen. I mean, they really lay this out. out. You know, there was 36 pandemic preparedness planning events, including the DARPA research that I mentioned. Twenty-five of them generated documents. You just go on the website and take a look

at them. Six of them were filmed. If you don't believe that, just watch the video from Event 201 where there's U.S. leaders, people in these different response units, the head of the Chinese CDC. They come to America and they do a scenario of a COVID-19 pandemic. I mean, John, it's all right in front of us. This looks like it was planned. It looks like it's a military operation. It's being conducted simultaneously in countries all over the world. It's resulting in terrible outcomes for the population, but it's in the open. Yeah, I hear all that. I'm like, I'm almost tongue-tied because I'm like, this is tough. You sit there, you listen to all that. Like, you're a doctor who had to fight his way through all this.

Deal with everything that's happened, Peter. And on top of that, be attacked every step of the way. I'm curious, you know, and I'm trying to think right now in myself, in any of these plants, do they talk about the psychology of a population and how they will literally attack their own, you know, I was going to say their own cells, but you kind of get the idea I'm trying to portray here. Like, anyone who stood up and just said, Listen, we could go about this a different way.

I'm not saying it ain't real. I'm just saying we could do this a different way. Their heads almost got blown off and worse. You know, like it's been, while I just stare at your last little stretch. And I don't admire the situation you're sitting in. I admire you for having the courage to continue to trudge on. But, I mean, every step of the way, I think, well, they can't, I mean, it's got to be over now, right? And then every step of the way, they just throw one more layer on.

You know, I just come back to it, though. Did any of them predict what the populations of the world have done over the course of the last three years? You know, things are starting to open up. You're starting to see more certainly. I think me and you can agree on this. When you talk about Canada, how many more people are reaching out to you now, Peter, that weren't there even a year ago, I swear. Like, you know, like, so the message is spreading and it's getting bigger and everything else. But I go back to it. Did you read anything on the psychology of like, you do this, you do this, you know, one plus one equals two. And we're going to have a just a fun time here as COVID rages on and nobody's going to be any of the wiser. You know, an important book. The books are very important, Sean, because most people know now that the electronic forms of information are corrupted. You know, there's censorship on YouTube and Twitter and all the social media. The search engines are all.

corrupted and you type something in. So you can't trust the electronics. The books you can hold, they're printed, you can hold them in their hand, they have citation. So I mentioned courage to face COVID-19 by myself and John League, mandatory. It's actually college reading now in some colleges. Hey, that's pretty cool. Where's that, Peter? In Boston. Yeah. In Boston, right on. Yeah. So COVID-19, the global prayers by Peter Breggam, cloud over the White House by Scott Atlas. I would say COVID operation by Pam Popper, how two doctors treated 6,000 patients by George Fried and Brian Tyson with their monograph of all their data.

I would say right now these are mandatory reading. There's several other kind of answerly books. Joel Hirschwein has one. But the books are important. But getting to your question, this psychology, why would the CDC on their website have this zombie apocalypse where people turn against each other and eat each other's flesh and stuff? You know, there's been movies made on this. You know, that's one thing to think of, you know. The book to read on the psychology of this is called

the psychology of totalitarianism by Matthias Desmond. Psychology professor in Ghent, Belgium. I don't think you have to explain who that is because I think he's, you know, his work is fantastic. everyone who's listened to him is brilliant. Anyways, apologies to stick out off. I read his book and I do subscribe to the idea that he's right, that there's some type of sciop going on, a psychological operation by people in power. But what spreads contagiously from person to person is mass formation,

that they're in a trance. These people with their kids die of myocarditis and they don't say anything about it. They're in a trance. They're in some type of mass formation where their minds are numb. This doctor who wrote the paper about transplant patients all getting the vaccine, but he doesn't consider that the vaccines may not work or be harmful. He's in this trance. It's a form of mass formation. The human mind isn't thinking correctly right now. You can see blatant evidence of it. Parents should be appalled when their kids drop dead. Their precious children drop dead,

but yet there doesn't seem to be any outrage. This is a sign of mass. formation. Yeah, it's almost, you know, I'll even use myself, you know, and not that I've had a kid die and I don't mean to put it that way. Just, we've all seen the montages of all these different athletes or people, heck, I mean, just he didn't, I believe he did not, actually, I'm positive he did not die. I think I am. Anyways, here in, here in, uh, Ken, we got the, uh, emergency commission going on, right, on the emergency act. And did you see the lawyer pass out while he's interviewing one of the guys on stage. And I, you know everyone's going.

We all know what this is, right? Except, you know, for some reason, we just chalked up as, oh, he must have had an underlying health condition, except we've seen like the same thing happen over and over and over and over again. I know, but it's a mix, you know, I want to be fair. I studied that video. I'm a cardiologist, you know, so passing out is kind of in my wheelhouse.

He looked a little pale. He knew something was going on and he reached for some water. and that's when he keels over. To me, that looks like vasovagal syncope or neurocogenic synchapy, which is a different reflex that can happen when a man is urinating or standing at attention for a long time or in the sight of blood. It's a fainting episode. And based on what I saw, I bet he survived.

If he didn't survive, I'd want to know about it. But I think you're right. Any collapse where there's CPR and patients are taken to the hospital, it's myocarditis until proven otherwise. And we've seen so many notable figures. The U.S. Olympic Committee keeps track of these athletes worldwide. And there's tens of thousands of athletes, especially in the Soccer League, South America, Europe. The number of sudden deaths that happen on the field, it can happen, but it's pretty rare, 29 per year.

Last I saw, they're counting. They're at 1376. 1376. Yeah. And so you'll see montages of soccer player after soccer player. and you'll just see people passing out on stage, referees passing out. I mean, it's just front office personnel. It just keeps going and going.

Oh, bless you. Yeah. Right there, that stat alone, you know, for a sports guy, is, I don't know, insane. Like, I can't think of the word right now. You've done this to a couple times of me a day. And I just go, the numbers are off. Like, you know, I've got no point. And maybe the listener has felt this, Peter.

Certainly, them coming after you again brought you right back on my radar because it was like, what the heck is going on now? Yeah, it's endless. Just a quick update. Yeah. Remember, I was the first doctor to publish that we can treat COVID-19. I got big grants. I helped the White House, testified in the Senate, developed a lot of attention.

I was fired essentially for that. That was before the vaccines. I worked for a big medical group for the health system. I changed my practice to a private practice. Went for two years, saw innumerable numbers of patients, great metrics all the way around. The American Board of Internal Medicine after an inquisition has decided to recommend decertification of my residency,

my fellowship, taking away six years of my life, basically for political reasons. My clinical track record is fine. Now I've been fired from the second job temporally associated with that. And I'm facing decertification. I have over a million dollar lawsuit over my head from the first job that I can't seem to shake. And the attacks come in from every angle. And what I do, just like I do in this interview, is I'm just straight with the facts. I cite the data. I'm very careful. I'm actually being most criticized for my testimony under oath, which I take very seriously. I take that just as seriously as I see patients.

I'm very honest. I'm not going to misrepresent the information. But this is such a scandal. Listen to this. The PR marketing firm for Pfizer-Moderna is Weber Shandwick, largest PR firm in the world. It turns out that they have an embedded unit in the CDC. vaccine office, an embedded unit within the CDC promoting Pfizer-Mirderna vaccines to the CDC, and that the CDC is actually paying them $53 million. So Senator Rand Paul at the end of October

writes a letter to Wielensky at the CDC and said, you can't have the marketing firm for Pfizer-Moderna in your office and be paying them as well. It turns out that this marketing firm, Weber Shandrick, is working with the American Board of Internal Medicine. They're actually presenting at a conference with Richard Barron, the CEO of the American Board of Internal Medicine, along with an AI company called Blackbird AI at the South by Southwest Conference in Austin, and the title of their panel is when doctors prescribe misinformation. So to summarize, I'm going to be the first doctor in history, modern history, to be stripped of my credentials by the American Board of Internal Medicine, who's colluding with the marketing

firm for Pfizer-Moderna. How do you say that with a straight face? Like, I mean, everything in the charter says you will not be influenced by industry. You'll be fair. You'll put science first. I mean, it's wide open. The corruption is wide open. Everything we've talked about, Sean, is in the open.

Everybody can search on the internet every little fact that I do. I know, but I mean, it still keeps the shit just keeps falling on you. And I sit there and I go like, one of these days I'm going to have Peter on. and all those lovely little things hanging on your wall. I can't think of it. Certificates. Thank you. They're just going to be,

you're going to have taken a baseball bat to a mall. You're going to have one of those moments where you're like, I just can't do it anymore. I got to release some rage. Like, how do you get the stress out in a day? Are you an athlete? Do you run? What do you do?

Yeah, I've got to go run. I've got to go work out. You know, I'm still a pretty strong runner. You know, a lot of your fans don't know that I've actually run a marathon in every state in the United States in the past. I've run a Toronto marathon. I've run Europe and Asia. I don't run marathons anymore, but I'm still a strong runner. You know what that's interesting is it's obvious that there's attempts to silence me, right? So, you know, take away my job, take away my second job, sue me, take away my boards. The ironic thing is it's just generating more

press, more interviews, and I'm getting louder. So it's actually backfiring every step of the way. And this is what I think is happening is I think that they're trying to hold me up as an example to the rest of the whole million doctors in the United States and say, listen, if we can do this to Peter McCullough, don't you dare step out of line? So I think I'm the, I am basically the example that everyone's following right now in the country. I think you should be an example. Most people should follow. That's just my thoughts on it.

Before I let you out of here, we got to do the Crude Master final question. It's Heath's words. And I'm pretty sure I haven't given you this one. I should have checked on the, I know you and Mr. Leak, we certainly didn't do it. But heck, I don't know, some days my memory's on top of things. Other days it's here there either way. It's heat's words. If you're going to stand behind a cause, then stand behind it absolutely.

What's one thing Peter McCullough stands behind? I stand by integrity of the scientific data, and I strongly support free and fair scientific discourse. That's the reason why we titled our substact, courageous discourse. It takes courage to discuss things right now. And we are being dissuaded. Sean, we're being dissuaded for you and I are being dissuaded from having this conversation. And other doctors are and other people are. and employers and athletes and coaches.

It takes courage to do this. Courageous discourse, my new substack. Well, hey, that's one way to wait. And I appreciate you giving me some time here today, Peter. And, well, you know, I don't know where our two paths will cross again. I'm sure they will. All the best here in the coming months until we do cross. And thanks for giving me some of your time again.

Okay, be good. Stay warm. Thanks, Peter.