Shaun Newman Podcast - #353 - Shadoe Davis

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

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Hi, this is Shadow Davis from the Shadow at Night Live stream, and you are listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Let's begin. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Sir Shadow Davis, the radio voice. You know, there's a bunch of different guys out here that got just fantastic voice. Sir, you have one of them. Thanks for hopping on.

Well, thank you, Sean. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm not used to being on this side of the screen, so I'll do my best to adjust to it. It's like being in a fun house or something. 100% I know the feeling you're talking about You know we were talking I certainly want to get your backstory But before we hopped there

You know we sat and we chat for 20 minutes You should just hit record shadow when I first hopped on with you We were talking about you know climate Lockdowns and all these different things And what's the straw that's going to eventually break everyone's back Is there a straw that breaks everyone's back Where they just like wake up and they have no choice but to be like Okay, there's some funky shit going down.

I think when they can't eat anymore, they can't afford to eat anymore. We're talking about an average Canadian family, let's just say upper middle class, who've got a $450,000 house, which is quite valuable out here on the prairies, as opposed to being a shack in the Toronto area or the Vancouver area. 450,000 can still get you a decent place out here in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and maybe even certain parts of Alberta. But I think when a family like that, with two cars, eight TVs going in the house,

all of the luxuries of life can no longer afford to feed their family, or maybe they have to make a decision as to what they're going to do this month, are they going to buy this food, this medication, or are they going to have to sell one of their cars? that may get people interested in what we have to say. Because so far it seems like it's been a slow grind, Sean. I mean, it's been a difficult, difficult grind getting people to buy in. I've been called conspiracy theorist and worst names for the last three years.

And even though some people have woken up, they have seen the light. I think it's going to take a monumental event for most of us to suddenly wake up. And I don't know what it's going to be because the globalists are very smart about this. They don't make any drastic moves. Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, you say it's, you know, it's like, well, at one point, we weren't, we weren't supposed to go visit our parents, right? You know, like, I don't know about you sitting over in Manitoba, but here in Alberta,

Saskatch when, you know, we had snitch lines. we talked about openly having quarantine centers. And, you know, you can start with the most, oh, they were just there or they were talking about them because they wanted to give people a safe place to blah, blah, blah. And it's like, sure. But Sean, we had a deadly pandemic happening. We had to do those things.

We had to. I'm scared. And I'm scared for my elderly parents and my children. I'm still scared. I still wear two masks when I go out to Superstore. Right? Right. That's the attitude, and it hasn't changed in two years.

So when we talk about climate, you know, they're modeling all these different things, right? They're modeling, when you talk about the globalist being smart, yeah, they're prepared for a lot of different things. They're looking into the future going, these are the problems we're going to face, so we better get ready to adjust to, you know, these different circumstances. I was just reading you the article of Switzerland, and if the listener hasn't listened to this week's Tuesday, day mashup, go listen to us talk, me and two's talk about Swizzling, because, you know, they're talking about, you know, if it gets bad enough with power, you know, shortages, they're just going to basically have a power lockdown, right? Like, essentially, they're just going to, you know,

make certain businesses closed because they're not going to be, they don't deem it essential. And, you know, if you got an electric vehicle, you're only going to be let out for, you know, essential drives, right? Like, I mean, so. So what would the average person say about that, first of all. And I think they'd go, ah, that's over in Switzerland. Like, who cares what they're doing in Switzerland? What are they going to be doing in Canada? If you want to get back to the crust of what we were talking about earlier, which is waking people up, right? The globalists, again, very cagey with what they're doing. They do something in Australia that's completely different from what they're doing in Canada, that's completely different from what they're doing

in Switzerland or England or any other of the countries that they have under their thumb. And we don't pay attention to it because we've got our own problems going on and the distractions that they're providing us with the with the uh drag queen story hours and uh you know the election frauds and and the just and trudeau get your get vaccinated um that's it's going to save you uh you know watching that commission in the last two months you know people were yelling and screaming it's just a distraction and i say yeah Yeah, of course it was just a distraction, but it's an entertaining one. So if they're doing that, if they have this systematic rollout, this global systematic rollout,

how can we possibly get ourselves altogether enough when one big thing happens? It's not like the Nazis in 1940s Germany, the Nazis, you know, they rolled it out slowly as well there. I mean, a lot of people don't realize how the Nazis came to power and how they finally got to the point, they had concentration camps. It was a slow role. But that was one country confined to that one area. And here we're talking about a globe, you know, 8 billion people.

And we can't keep track of it all. And the other thing, too, is the media comes into play here because we only know what they tell us or what the governments deem that we should know. And that's a problem, Because if they want us to know something, then that's probably something we shouldn't know. And unless we have friends in these countries, Ukraine, for example, there's a good one. I know a lot of people who have got friends over in Ukraine and they say,

I really haven't noticed much of a difference in anything that's going on here, to be honest with you. Now, there could be the fact that they live in a different region of Ukraine that hasn't been under shelling. or maybe, just maybe, there hasn't been any. There really hasn't been as much shelling and destruction as the left-wing corporate media and governments want us to believe. And then there's the distraction of who's a white hat and who's a black hat if you follow the QAnon theory. If you're thinking about what does Biden have in store if China does this or

what is Putin going to do if Ukraine does that, if NATO does this, and it's just, it's one big mishmash of distractions. So if we're looking for one thing that's going to happen, I think it's going to be hunger. The people who have been conditioned to think that they've done so well in life that they never have to worry about money again, and then they have to make that, that hard decision between feeding your family and paying your mortgage. It's $10. for a head of lettuce right now, Sean, in a grocery store, if you can find one. So, and gas is, is going to be ridiculous again as Christmas approaches. They don't want us traveling. So I believe that gas is, and I've talked to a bunch of people out east, I believe that gas is going to be going up 25 cents a liter

again in the not too distant, in the next couple of weeks in the not too distant future. So I think there's all kinds of things. The question is, what's it going to take? It's going to take hunger. And I mean real hunger and darkness, which is something we've been predicting this going to happen this winter for quite some time. Well, you have a lot of things going through my brain right now. So one of the things, I know I said a lot of stuff there. I'm sorry. Well, you know, I interviewed a guy, Tanner, Applegate, from here in town. And, him and Ken Rutherford were on. This is a long time ago now.

Well, not that long ago. But we talked, and Tanner basically said, you know, there's a tsunami wave coming. You can see it. And all you can do is prepare. And I was certainly of the mindset of, no, you can get ahead of this. That is a doomsday prediction, whatever.

And longer this goes on, the less I stress about what the globalists are doing, and that may sound a little bit funny. because I obviously pay attention. I'm not saying I don't look at it. I just realized that Sean Newman has been trying to interview everyone under the sun to, you know, key together and kind of lay down some tea leaves, if you would, and try to, you know, put the puzzle again.

What are they trying? And, you know, when I look back over COVID, I don't think we all realized how much power the little communities really had. We just needed some backbone. We just needed to say, no, we're not going to do that, right? I pointed out, Lucrete in Alberta was one of those communities, and certainly here in Northwest School Division, the school board there, I think, was the last school board

to implement vaccine recommendations, requirements, you know, and they held out. And I think at the end it was only beat like 5'4, and I hope I'm not speaking at a turn on that. But you go, okay, so let's take a step back and realize that as much as they want to do a bunch of things, and certainly the government will and can make life difficult. These little committees, municipal powers, there's a lot of, like, there's a lot that can be said from those positions. And I look at that and I go, okay, so how do we figure out to put the right people in there and protect our communities?

I guess is kind of the way I look at it. And once you get good communities protecting one another, I feel like that idea can spur shadow. I don't know. Is that too of a naive idea? No, it's not. This is something we've been talking about for a long time now. It's grassroots.

It's got to be from the bottom and the change anyway. It's got to come from the bottom, and it's got to work itself to the top. It's not going to be a top-down movement. So, you know, we just had civic elections here in Manitoba, and I think most of the provinces outside of Alberta and Quebec probably had theirs this past fall. So every town, every municipality, every city has got some new-looking council. Maybe they've got new school trustees in place, new mayors, new Reeves.

And a lot of people from the freedom communities were running specifically for school trustees this past election. A couple of them won, which is good news. Not many of them did, but I know a few that did. And so they're going to see how these things operate from inside, from these meetings. What's going on in our schools right now? This intersectionality, this CRT they're teaching, this equity that they're teaching our kids. What's going on in the public libraries? A lot of these city counselors and town counselors are going to find out who is pulling the strings to get these

let's call them mature books in the hands of little kids. I mean, when you see a book that is blatantly about sexuality on a lower shelf in a library, kids section even, you got a four or five year old who can reach out and grab this book that shows full-on frontal nudity, that shows men trying to become women and women trying to become man or something in between. I would say that that is a confusing thing for a young child. And it's also illegal in Canada, according to the Criminal Code of Canada. You cannot, it's aggravated sexual assault on a child.

At least it could be construed or argued that way. And so, you know, this is one of the many distractions that we've got going on, that we need to address head-on, I think. And I think what we need to do more than that, than anything is to tell people and to illustrate in some way that all of these things, the gun grab, the drag queen story time, the equity, diversity, all of this stuff, which is the basis of it actually, is all tied together in the same globalist movement. People are looking at it as though it's all kinds of little problems, you know, that they're completely independent of

each other, but they're not. It's all part of the same thing. And these little problems, well, they may be distractions are in fact problems and they need to be addressed. What I think is happening really, and it's growing on our side of things is that there are so many people who are fighting these different battles along the way. Like I'll look at a situation with with the books in the libraries or the drag queen story time. And I see a group of concerned parents in Winkler, Manitoba, or Estevan, Saskatchewan, going to these school boards and demanding these books be taken out

and demanding that these drag queen story hours be canceled and whatnot. And so I go, okay, good, that front is covered. Then we can talk about the gun grab, and we can talk about lawful gun owners, hunters, people who have had these guns for many, many years, and Justin Trudeau is now trying to take them away. First of all, I think the question should be, why exactly is he trying to do this?

And not to the gun owners, they already know the answer to that, but to the people who live in the bigger cities, the Toronto's and Vancouver's of Canada, who think, yeah, that's a great idea. Take all the guns. Well, what's going to happen then? How are we going to fight back against government

with sticks and stones? Literally, that's what they're doing. They're trying to disarm their own people so we're easier to roll over, which is probably one of the next things. But you try and tell that to somebody the way I just framed it, and they roll their eyes and they call you a conspiracy theorist. I'm more into asking questions, Sean. I will ask them, why does Trudeau want these guns? These guns that have been safe in the hands of legal gun owners, hunters, farmers for the past hundred years. why?

You wonder if it isn't and this sounds once again, geez, I'm sounding a little depressing on this side, but you wonder if it isn't an inevitability of, and this is what has separated the United States from anything that's come before.

We have a population that, you know, is now 83% in the cities. Which means you know, even if we give ourselves a few extra percent understand what's going on we're the minority and the minority and as as you know a country grows and prospers more and more people

gradually move to the cities right meaning they control what a country does which means inevitably you eventually get to where you have massive problems and when massive problems come it sparks revolution protests blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and then the cycle probably starts all over again except for in the united states where they've had their things go out they they protect the you know like when it comes to different things in their constitution you know when it comes to speech being the i think the number one thing that that in guns and and number two being guns we don't we don't have that in canada we don't have those protections in our constitution

and Charter of Rights and Freedoms. And even if we did, I would doubt that the large percentage of Canadians would even know that. I mean, on Twitter lately, I have been having discussions with just random Canadian people. And they say that what Danielle Smith is doing in Alberta is unconstitutional. With her, you know, her sovereign Alberta Act within a United States. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And that's only because they heard those words come out of the mouth of Rachel Notley,

who they have 100% faith in. And Notley is lying. And they're trying to create this whole campaign that Danielle Smith is some sort of dictatorial tyrant. She's not. All you have to do is go listen to her. It's pretty simple. Or go read the 11-page document that they put out, which says a whole lot of nothing other than we're going to abide by the Constitution,

except when the Constitution attacks your pretty much your individual rights. Sean, I haven't got time to read 11 pages. Are you kidding me? I know, 11 pages. I mean, it's, it's, um, you know, it's, it's one of the things with the podcast shadow is, you know, when you talk about asking questions, that's all I continue to do is just ask questions. Because anytime I think I start to understand something, you know, I have a thought. And I might as just ask a few more questions, right? And what questions do is it lead you to more answers.

It forces you go look at a few different things and you move on. on. And part of our population just, you know, is busy, doesn't have time for, kids working. Like, I give them all the time in the world, except we're getting closer and closer to things that really don't make sense. And COVID should have been a giant wake-up call. It was to a lot of people. You know, like, there was a lot of people get shaken out of their cobwebs and like, holy crap, what is going on? And we need more of that. And the only way to get more of that is more insane. Getting more of that. That's right.

is going to be more insanity, you know? Like the gun grab, you know, like, yeah, that's, hunters and gun owners have seen this probably for a long time. But it's getting to an extreme level. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. And you mentioned, you brought it up earlier. We've got a divide in the country.

And I'm not sure if your percentage is bang on. I'd say you're pretty close. We've got 83% of people in Canada living in. urban centers and the other 17% live in rural areas. You take somebody from middle of Saskatchewan, let's just say Melville. And same kind of a person, let's say a 28-year-old male, and you take that person and you put that person next to a 28-year-old male who lives in the heart of Toronto, lives and works in the heart of Toronto. They're both Canadians. But if you hear them both speak on social issues and what it means to be a Canadian, you will end up with

wildly different answers. And this is more than just an urban and rural divide. I believe this is a regional divide. I was going to say West versus East, but it's not that easy. And for years we've been hearing that the West needs to separate. Okay, that's fine. That's a pretty basic thing. I think that Alberta and Saskatchewan, who seem to be the only two provinces, I think the Yukon and Manitoba have also said they're not going to be enforcing this gun grab that Trudeau wants to do too. But that's one thing. I mean, Trudeau has got Manitoba by the Short and Curlies when it comes to claiming any sort of independent Manitoba within a United Canada, you know, in the legislature. Because Manitoba is a have-nod province.

And so if Manitoba tries to stand up against the federal government, they will just say, we're taking your transfer payments away and some of your medical payments. What do you think of that? Go ahead and survive now. But Alberta and Saskatchewan, they don't have those worries. I think it might be time for this country, and I hate to say it, because I am a very proud Canadian, or at least I was. And I hadn't been for a few years up until the Freedom Convoy came around earlier this year.

And that made me proud again. I mean, when they rolled through Winnipeg, we went to meet them. It was minus 35 that day. And I was crying ice cubes. I mean, seriously, it was a pretty emotional day. And I was very proud to be a Canadian that day. And for the weeks that followed. But is it time for our country to divide itself?

Because it seems as though, take those two 28-year-old guys, they may as well be from different worlds. They do not see eye to eye on anything. And I'm not just talking about political. I'm talking about life experience. What's it like to live on a farm in Saskatchewan, never mind in a town. What's it like to live on a farm in Manitoba or Alberta?

Or even British Columbia, the interior of British Columbia, what's it like on an apple orchard there, as compared to taking the go train to where, work every day in Toronto on the subway and hanging out with your suited friends in some bar next to the Skydome or whatever they call it now. I want to see the Raptors tonight. It's night and day. And those guys don't care.

And this is the thing that's always been. Those guys out in a select few. I don't want to paint everybody with one brush. And I know that a lot of people watch this show and my show from all areas of country. and I don't ever like to insult one area of the country, but the prevailing attitude in a place like Toronto is, you mean Canada continues after Mississauga? What?

I didn't know that. And they have no idea what life is like out here. So is it time for this country to divide itself? And, you know, and if that happens, then one part of it goes directly into the globalist jaws and the other part maybe tries to fight to stay out of that. But would that part of the country remaining, the West, be too weak to avoid that?

Because this is not a national problem, as I pointed out before. This has to do with the International Monetary Fund and ESG scores. And Larry Fink from BlackRock and all of these guys who say, if you don't play ball, we will waste you financially. You will be financial roadkill. And that's a quote. All right, from Larry Fink himself.

That's all he talks about, apparently, whenever he does a meeting with anybody, whether it's Klaus Schwab, his mouthpiece, or any national leader, this guy runs a huge hedge fund worldwide, $10 trillion. So even some of our money is probably with Black Rock in some way, shape, or form.

And he calls the shots. And he's the one who has been screaming for the ESG scores. Now, some states in the United States are fighting back against it. So far, nothing in Canada. I think Danielle Smith is probably going to try, but she might get eaten alive by the left-wing corporate media and by all of the leftists and Marxists in that province and the Rachel Notley's because they're really going hard on her, as you've noticed.

And I don't know if what's left of Canada would be strong enough to fight into that title wave unless we teamed up with Russia, who's got the number one economy in the world right now. Go figure. So there's all kinds of craziness going on. Well, let's go back then shadow to your initial question, I think. You know, I think there was a few in there. One is talking about the two 28-year-olds.

they don't agree on anything. And I go, I would have agreed with that and tell the freedom combo. I think that's a lie we've been sold. I'm not saying we don't disagree on a lot because, you know, you're talking about a problem that's honestly as old as time. You go back in history, there's been city people, there's been farming people. I just don't know if, you know, I don't know what the divide in Rome's time was. But, I mean, in Canada's time, you go back to the dirty 30s, it was.

almost a 50-50 split. And so over time, as, you know, if things have changed, everything else, we're just, we're at a, you know, an inflection point, I guess, of like, it's interesting because of where we're at. But what the Freedom Convoy taught me is there's just certain things we all value.

I just don't think it's a hard problem to articulate. And part of that has been almost by design, weirdly enough, I think. And that is, here in Canada, we for too long haven't put value on open discussion and trying to talk about the things that matter. Which means when the things that matter come up, and I will be the guy who jumps on this grenade, whether we're talking about anything you've mentioned. My first instinct is to be like, yeah, but it can't be that bad. or yeah, and so I'm already an epitome of a good chunk of the population here in Canada where I just don't want to argue.

And yet, what we need to all be doing is drawing a line in the sand and arguing about things. And respectfully, I'm all good for respect. I think, you know, it just called down the other person's character and everything else isn't good. I mean, respectfully. And what that does is it'll make us better at getting our thoughts out. For too long, we've just been kind of cattle just grazing and things are great and just moving along and nothing, you know. But like we're, we got some serious issues going on here. The problem we have is, and we both know this, is they don't want us talking.

And when we do talk, then you get, you know, I've been removed off YouTube. You were talking earlier that you don't even talk on YouTube. Well, what's one of the biggest media platforms out there? YouTube. Like it's, you know, when you strike a chord, I'll go back to Eric Payne. Eric Payne, the first time I ever had him on, he was saying, don't get your kids vaccinated. Remove from YouTube. Chris Barber is the last one that got me removed from YouTube.

I don't even think we said anything offensive. He's vaccinated for fuck sakes. He was just driving to Ottawa. It was before we got to Ottawa. You're done. Just the name Chris Barber is enough, right? No more. No more.

And yet, if you flip the other side, get vaccinated. It's good. It's healthy, protective. You get promoted out to Wadsuit. So we are fighting an uphill battle here. here. It's like taking on the, you know, hamburger hill or something, you know, like we're getting mowed down and they're in a position just to take us. But here's the thing, I go back to it. What Ottawa taught me is the two 20-year-olds definitely agree on some fundamental

things. Certainly their life story, their perspective is different. But I think there's a way to, we just got to get people talking. The problem we have is people are so cemented in their beliefs, it's uncomfortable. You know, I just, I literally just experienced this on the weekend. The comedian I had it, he was fantastic for this Christmas show, but he's from Emmington, and me and him started talking about some things, and he brought up Justin Trudeau and how people, you know, you know, and he was about to say something along the lines of not everything he's done is bad. And I said, if you're going to try and tell me that Trudeau is good, we just, it's a non-starter. I got so many things on a list right now where he is,

not even remotely good. So don't try and tell me. But there I am. I'm cemented in my corner. And I think a lot of people would be cemented right along with me. Oh, yeah. But we got to find, we got to find

ways to open up and be able to discuss things. But it's in part, right now with being censored, like the free speech thing in Canada is fucking wild. And so the longer it goes on, the harder the 28-year-olds are of,

they believe they don't agree. But I just disagree with that thought. I think there's fundamental things we agree on. But the media is framing it the opposite way. I don't know. I guess what's your thoughts on that? Let me run something past you. I want to talk about the media because I was a member of that group for a long,

long time. But we are a product of our environment, right? In most cases. So you were talking about a guy from Edmonton, this comedian that you just had on. And you look at Alberta as a whole. And Alberta is generally a blue conservative province, except for Redmondton.

For some reason, it seems as though Edmonton votes in a liberal MP. They'll vote in NDP, MLAs. And I wonder how in this bastion of conservatism, Alberta, including Calgary, that Edmonton somehow is orange and red. Can you explain that? Yeah, I think we see it in the states too.

You go look at the states and see where they vote Democratic blue. It's all in the cities. And what do you have in the cities? You got, you know, government workers. We don't, you don't have a government worker sitting out on the farm. Okay, you're right. You just answered the question. Edmonton is the capital city of Alberta. And because of that, they've got government, union, you got all these things. And, you know, I actually. got into it with a buddy of mine who's a firefighter Calgary voted and I was so taken it back and he goes well listen the UCP wants to come in and

cut a whole bunch of things firefighter ish and I was just like and I say ish because I gonna be honest folks I my brain kind of shut off I was just like what and but what is he doing he's voting for what impacts him and so like Remington no I think it makes a lot of sense the one thing I'm learning those shadow about politics is we think, you know, what's Emmington and I, forgive me, is it a million people, something around there? If you include Sherwood Park and all that, yeah, that's about a million. We think a million people voted NDP, and that is so not even remotely close.

Right. The problem we have is engagement. And I just literally saw this with the UCP. How many people voted for Danielle Smith to become the new premier of Alberta? You mean in my election? Yeah. I think she got her. Yeah, she had over 50% of the vote, didn't she?

She did. But it was 120,000 people bought UCP memberships to vote on that. Oh, you mean like, okay, you're talking, right, you're talking about the leadership thing. Yeah, okay, so that was a very close race. It was. But anyone in Alberta, four million people, I mean, obviously knock off for kids and whatever else, but a huge over million, you know, two million whatever plus people could have voted. All you had to do is buy a $10 membership and people just didn't care.

And I'm like, this is literally going to be the next premier for at least eight months. This is going to decide a lot. And, you know, people didn't care. So it's engagement too. I'm not saying that you can go in and win Emmington. Certainly you have your uphill battle there as well, just as if you were trying to come out and win in the countryside, right? You're going to have your uphill battle there. But not everybody in the cities wants Rachel Notley.

I mean, obviously the majority do. But I think there's a lot of people not engaged there as well. Politics, I'm finding out over and over again, is a murky, murky world. And I understand why people stick clear of it. Except it dictates life. Like these people from the top all the way down to municipal decide what goes on in all of our lives.

and we've got to put so far down on the totem pole, like, ah, let's talk about, you know, and I bring up the Oilers all the time, because I love hockey. I think it's great. I just wish more of the, you know, and Kerry Price was the guy this week coming out and talking about the guns. What are you saying? I'm not a criminal.

Yeah. I am not a criminal. I loved it. I think it's great. A guy with that stature in this country would say something like that, knowing that he might actually be giving up his reputation. Think about that. Think about how an established NHL superstar,

long time, Montreal Canadians, probably the most iconic hockey franchise outside of the Toronto Maple Leafs in this country. And I'm not sure which of the two is the bigger draw. But this guy has been one of the top goaltenders in the league for over a decade, plays for an iconic franchise is beloved by the liberal people of Montreal and Quebec, for that matter. And he comes out and he says that, which way is it going to go?

What do you think it's like, what kind of reverberates is that going to have? Is it going to turn people to his way of thinking? Or are they going to start calling them a conspiracy theorist and a conservative extreme right-wing knuckle-drager. I wish we could what I was saying was, I wish we could have a podcast called the Time Travel Podcast and go back to historical events and see what they said.

You know, athletes speaking out, although rare, isn't new. I mean, look at the greatest boxer of all time, Muhammad Ali. And look at what he went through. And honest to God, I don't know. Did all sudden a cascade of of athletes come out after him?

I actually don't know. did a whole bunch of, you know, like that was a tumultuous time when he was talking about the Vietnam War and, you know, on all that. The civil rights movement and whatnot. Sure. Yes, absolutely a cavalcade of not just athletes, but rock stars, pop stars. They all started singing and writing about it, you know, like I think the most iconic song of that era, anti-war song and civil rights song would have been for what it's worth by Buffalo Springfield. hey, what's that sound? Everybody, look, what's going down? Right? Well, there you go. So I answer my own question.

With Kerry Price, Carrie Price is hurt right now, right? So he's out the entire season. So you go, and he's, and he's closing in on the end of his career. He's been probably the greatest goalie in the NHL for his duration. Not all time. He's certainly in the conversation, but like, I mean, Kerry Price was unbelievable. Almost single-handly won the Montreal Canadiens a Cup. unreal goaltender. But right now he's sitting out on the sidelines, speaks up. Does it cause a cascade of people to come out? I hope so. Like, I really hope so, but I don't know. Do you think it would make a difference if he was playing? Yeah, absolutely. And I also think it would make a difference

if he was probably like four or five years younger. Not 20, but the goalie going to the Stanley Cup finals. You know, like, I think all that matters. It does help that he's a Montreal Canadian. That's one of the most iconic franchises on the planet for any sport, right? Let me, let me ask you, because I alluded to this in my previous. Montreal or Toronto, the Canadians or the Leafs, which is the more iconic of the two franchises? I, man, that's hot water. I don't know.

I don't know. You're going to have Montreal Canadian fans just screaming then it's Montreal, but you're going to have Toronto fans doing the same thing. I mean, the two of them together, their history is unbelievable. I hate saying that because I'm not an either fan, right? I hate how they come to the Oilers games and they pretty much outnumber Oilers fans. I'm like, how is that even remotely possible? The same in Winnipeg, yeah.

But they do that everywhere. Anywhere you go, that's what they are. But they've been around so long. They have such great history. I don't know. Canadians. Canadians. It's the Canadians.

And the reason for that, I think, is because of their longstanding rivalries with other original six teams. The Leafs don't seem to carry that, except for with Montreal. But you look at Montreal's rivalry with Boston still. Not to mention the fact that they've got so many Stanley Cup victories, even if the last one was in 1993, they've got so many Stanley Cups, whereas the Leafs don't. And even if they are, yeah. And even if they are, you know, the number one money-making franchise in the, I think they're pretty close to the top in the NHL, but definitely in Canada.

That doesn't matter, right? What matters is wins, prestige, I think your culture, your current status too, right? You know, I mean, the Leafs are a good team. They haven't been an overwhelming powerhouse. They're a good team. Montreal's an okay team, right? They're not an overwhelming powerhouse this year, but they're an okay team. And I think that all of that combined gives you the status, the all-time status of what a franchise is.

And I think that Montreal wins that one. I'm not saying it's a landslide. It's very close, but I think it's in Montreal for sure. I've heard lots of different players talk about playing in Montreal as it being, you know, the atmosphere and the culture they've they've instilled there right and and there's something to be said there for sure i just when you when you think about historically both those franchises are iconic i mean it's it's it's you know it's one a one b i mean it might even be just wins bad wins wins stanley cups wins i mean like you say 1967 man that's what i put over the calgary flames all the time

all the flames fans oh that's too bad guys hey one cup that's pretty You know, when you go back to Kerry Price speaking out, though, I mean, Theo Flurry's been speaking out nonstop. What's the difference? Have you had Theo on your show? Oh, yeah, multiple times. Yeah. I like Theo, and I like what he's been saying. But I think he goes too far.

And he doesn't watch what he posts on Twitter or Instagram. He doesn't fact check. And I love what he and Jamie and Joseph Forgo were doing with, their new organization and I wish the well. But the problem is that that Jamie is not a journalist, Theo is not a journalist. They're both draws. I mean, they're both big Canadian names. I mean, everybody knows Theo Flurry and I'm not going to say everybody knows Jamie Saleh until

you say figure skating. They go, oh, yeah. And then they know her. But both of them have been posting things. and this is something I warn people against all the time. You know, when I'm when I'm doing the show, I say, look, guys, before we post anything, whether it's a meme or an article or whatever, please make sure it is factual. Because if we're posting stuff that is wild, like completely crazy and not based in fact at all,

then we are exactly what they say we are. We're just a bunch of wild-eyed conspiracy theories and you're giving them all the ammunition they need and they don't need much. So fact check yourself and I don't mean fact checkers The kind that Zuckerberg uses or any of the other social media platforms. I'm talking about Going and looking yourself. Okay, so I found this article in Zero Hedge and it's all about this this town in England, Oxfordshire that's going to be doing these climate lockdowns. So, and this is an exercise I put myself through yesterday. I do it pretty much every day on more than one story.

So you go, all right, so I'm going to look for this. I don't use Google, I try, well, I will use Google. I'm not going to lie about that, but I do use other search engines as well. So I can't get a fair readout back to me of different stories that are out there. So I found that that particular story had been run, several different ways by several different publications. So I read a few of them to make sure it wasn't just one story repeated the same in different papers.

And it wasn't. It was actually written locally by at least 10 publications, probably more. I didn't go any further than that. And so that's what it takes, right, to go ahead and absolutely be able to stand behind everything you say. When we talk about the vaccines not working or not stopping transmission or being dangerous even in some cases, we have to be able to back that up with evidence. We have to have people who have done trials on this stuff to be able to talk about that. We can't just spill that and go, ha ha.

You know, we have to be able to prove that stuff. And so Theo doesn't do that. he just puts stuff out there randomly, and a lot of it is wrong. And when he does that, and I love the guy's passion, and the same with Jamie, I love it.

But when they do that, I just go, oh, man, Theo, what are you doing? And is he going to wind up on Fox News talking to Tucker Carlson about this stuff that's completely wrong? Because he's been on Tucker a few times. And we can't have that.

He needs to be able to talk about the things that are real, not fake and go from there. And I encourage everybody, everybody else in the freedom movement to go ahead and check themselves to make sure that what they're putting up there is right. Every little thing matters. But let me ask you one favor.

Don't send it to me and ask me to fact check it for you. Do it yourself. I get enough of that. Well, you're hitting on one of the things I tell my listeners all the time. I actually haven't said this in a long time. I used to say it right at the start, you know, when I first interviewed Andrew Liebenberg and, and then all the rest of the doctors and everything else was like, don't take my word for it. Don't take his word for it.

Like, you know, we're, even today's shadow, me and you were going back and forth about a bunch of different things. And if it pequews your interest, go take a look, right? Do your own little dig. I know they say doing your own research. Oh, don't do that. That's, you know, whatever else. It's like, no, that, like honestly, go do that. I don't know about

I've been Heaven forbid you should read anything Sean ever Please don't read You know it's interesting You know when you get these arguments from authority on social media Well how who are you to say any of this

I can read Thank you Right Anyway you were saying Well it's just It's good for listeners to hear Like I I You know like I can say things that are wrong

I just I hope I'm big enough or whatever to come back on and be like, ooh, I got that one wrong, right? Or, you know, like one of the things I had to remind myself is no matter who comes on here, what they say isn't my beliefs, I'm trying to explore that. You know, that's like I ask questions.

I know that's something, you know, you know, it's funny, Shadow, we've been talking for, only recording, not quite for an hour, but we've been talking for an hour. And normally the way I start this is I want to dig into your background and hear a little about yourself, and allow the listener to get a feel for you. I had written down, I feel like I heard you say this,

so correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe I read it somewhere, is you said you've been fired too many times for asking questions. Am I right on that? Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Well, maybe I'm going to just kind of give you a bit of a, not a curveball, but steer the conversation towards a little bit of who's shadow is. Because, you know, I've listened to some of your work.

I can't sit here and say I've listened to it all. I think we can both agree that when you get doing as many shows as you are and trying to keep up to date on the amount of emails, texts, you know, the thing that's killing me right now is I've been sent like six documentaries that are like two hours apiece and they're good. But trying to get through them is like, is tough. Anyway, so I go, maybe I can dig into whose shadow is because I'm always curious about different people and how they've got to this point.

You know, everybody's had their little journey. Curious. Okay, so you just said curious, and that's what I am. That's what made me who I am. I'm constantly asking questions. You know, it's funny, I don't usually go back and watch any of the shows that I've done unless somebody points out that I may have said something wrong. So I went back earlier this morning when I first woke up.

and somebody said that I had misquoted somebody or got something wrong from a couple of weeks ago. So I sat and I watched this one particular piece I was doing. And I was telling this story about how I was a curious kid. And I kept getting kicked out of classes in school for asking too many questions. The teachers just couldn't stand it. They didn't have the answers, right? So instead of looking for the answer and not finding it in a textbook

and then actually having to go and find the answer in the library, Instead of that, they would just kick me out of the class. And so I went down and found the answers myself. So I've always been very curious, fiercely independent. And when I got into radio, I went along with the pack for the first few years until I found who I was, what I wanted to be on the air. Everybody develops their own personality on the air. Not everybody. some people do.

And you just work through that. You work getting to get your personality to come out in the short little time allotted that they give you to speak on music radio. And I got very good at that. It was the internal stuff that was happening in radio. And especially in the last, I'm going to say 10, 12 years that I was in it, there was a lot of group think happening. and you would sit in a meeting, let's just say. And somebody, usually a manager, would come up with this horrible idea for a promotion or something, whatever it was. A countdown, let's just say.

And one person would, because there's 12 of you in the room, one person would go, that's a great idea. Then everybody would go along with it. So now we've got group think. And I'm sitting there going, So you want to give away and the promotion itself, and I can't think of any one specific one, the promotion itself was the stupidest idea that I could ever, ever think of. And I would step up and I would say it, right? Of course, I'm not the most tactful guy.

I'm not the guy that can smooth. My girlfriend is better at that than I am. I'm just like, could you think of a more stupid idea, right? And, well, I don't think it's stupid. And so then you get this reputation as a rebel rouser as a troublemaker and you ask too many questions. You're difficult. And so that's who I was in radio. On radio, different, inside the building just couldn't get along with the group think.

And then I started seeing signs of corruption, you know, where a boss would get, A general manager in order to get a client to come on the radio station would give a news story away. Now, I'd never seen this happening up until about 10 years ago, and I was blown away that they were selling news stories. A company could actually buy a news story. News is supposed to be Sankrosanct. News is news. It's supposed to be. truthful, factual. It is supposed to be timely. But these people were now allowed to buy news stories or to spike a story that may have been disadvantageous to their business.

Let's say they were caught polluting in Lake Ontario. Or let's say they were putting PCBs into the ground in rural Manitoba, right? I once saw a guy break a story and get reprimanded for it by the general manager because the party listed in the story was a client and the client didn't like it and the client was a $50,000 a year client. And so he had to not only spike that story, which was a lot of legwork, right, to get all the information, make sure everything was factual and correct. Not only did he have to spike that story, but then he had to go to the client's office and grovel for forgiveness.

And when I saw that kind of stuff happening, I just became so disenchanted with the business. Because I'm a guy, I cannot see an injustice without speaking up. And I don't know, maybe it's a character flaw. I just can't allow it to happen without speaking up. and trying to make somebody understand that what they've done is wrong. Like I said, I'm not the most tactful guy. And sometimes I will say things that I regret later, but it's always with good intentions in mind.

And when you see stuff like that going on, it's like, wow, man. So I am a fierce supporter of somebody who has been stomped on by the man. I am a fierce believer in truth. I don't suffer fools. Well, I have a difficult time going out anywhere and still to this day seeing people wearing masks, in some cases double masks, or is our friend Chris Schaefer out of Edmonton calls them, breathing barriers because that's what they are.

And I want to walk up to that person with a number of things in mind. The first thing I say is, why on earth are you still wearing that rag, a filthy rag on your face? Or maybe I want to walk up to them and say, you know, I'm not. I'm not sure if you heard, but I heard on the radio this morning that they have now made masks illegal, and anybody caught wearing a mask is going to get a $208 fine because they're covering their faces in public. Just some stupid meandering bullshit to scare them, because who knows, they might believe it. So that's the kind of person that I am. And everything that I am, I brought to the radio until they couldn't take it anymore.

The last radio show I did was with a chorus news talk information station in Winnipeg. And it was gaslighting. Gaslighting 101, basic, right? I'm sitting there in the newsroom and you've got a bunch of young energetic reporters slash journalists waiting to get out there, chomping at the bit, wanting to cover provincial politics or maybe civic politics or the police. and you could see the left in their eyes, the Marxism in their eyes. And one of them somehow got promoted to be the, I'm going to say news director. It wasn't really news director.

It was kind of a step down from that, but she was basically in charge of all of the radio functions. So she's maybe 28 years old with limited experience. And she's going to try and tell a slate of high. highly experienced news, talk, radio personalities, what to do, what to talk about, and how to talk about it. And I laughed. Now, this had nothing to do with her gender. It had everything to do with the fact that she doesn't have the life experience or the experience in general to be able to make those calls.

and there was one morning I was talking about what was it it was a LGBTQ plus thing we had a big panel come in one person was gay one person was gender fluid another person was trans and there's like six of them I couldn't keep track of everything and my goal even though I didn't tell anybody this my goal was to get them all four fighting, right? Just to prove they're not one big happy family. And guess what? In the 12-minute segment, it worked. And they were furious. My managers were furious at me because their goal was to

make it seem as though everybody's one big, happy Marxist family. I got hauled into the boss's office after that and told, you know what? We really like what you do. We really like your presentation. We like your humor. We like the fact that you're folksy and down to earth and people like you, but your right wing attitude is going to... And I said, excuse me? What?

It's this right wing. And I said, what right wing? The only right wing thing about me is the fact that I'm trying to uncover truth and I want balanced budget so our taxes don't go through the roof. That's it. I am not a religious zealot.

I am a common sense, probably the most common sense person that you'll ever meet in your life. And I don't suffer fools. Well, as I said before. And so that started a ruckus between the boss and I got me fired after about a year and a half. And there's much more to that story than that. But that is where I come from.

And so after finishing that, I kind of floated around for a while, started doing a podcast on mental health. It was actually fairly good. I think it got a lot of really positive messages out to people. Some of those episodes are still up on my YouTube channel. And then I just started live streaming on social media, never thinking that there was going to be censorship, developed a Facebook page that I think has got somewhere 40,000 followers now,

which is great, starting to build up a Rumble channel and Twitter and Instagram, whatever. And I now have the freedom to be. be able to say the things I believe in, without fear of repercussion, unless you want to talk about censorship being that repercussion, and it is. But for the most part, I don't have to sit in anybody's office and grovel if I did something wrong in their eyes. And that's where I am right now. All about freedom, all about calling out injustices. And I think, Sean, in the last two and a half for three years since this whole nightmare began.

I may have become more right-wing. It's either that or the other side has become increasingly more left-wing. I think the Overton window in Canada has shifted so far to the left that anybody who used to be in the middle, a centrist, is now far right. So I don't know if you're looking at a political spectrum exactly where I sit, but basically I'm a fiscal conservative open to a lot of ideas. I don't have to accept or like all of the ideas, but I will sit and listen to them.

And I will have gracious conversations with some people, and other people I'll have vile arguments with. I just had a couple of interesting, you know, it's one thing I noticed in my time in radio, is that TV people, and this was, you know, 40 years that I worked in radio almost, and TV people always seemed to feel as though they were a little bit above us, radio folk. And I think they still do.

I got into a Twitter thing with Rachel, what's your name from Global and the Consumer Affairs guy? I can't remember his name. Something to do with her posting a lie again, because that's what they've been doing, which is so dismaying to me. And he got up and he stood up and he started defending her. And so I got into this thing with them and I went, Careful what you post. You know, you got to worry.

You're going to have to go kiss Troy Reeb's ass in his office later on. There is a certain code of conduct that that chorus is going to hold you to. Watch out, right? And they shut up after that. And they knew they had to shut up or else they were going to be hauled into the boss's office. I don't have to worry about that stuff. But it's dismaying to see these reporters these days, not ask the questions, not ask why, why this, why that.

They're just not. They're going along. with the narrative, which is troubling. And all of them are. And I don't know. I think it's maybe a combination of these things. And I'm sorry I'm going on so long with this, but. No, no, it's all good.

I, I don't know if it's the fact that Trudeau has paid these outlets money. And I know that electronic media has not received any of the $550 or $600 million. That was for print publications like the Toronto. Red Star and the Globe and Mail and whatnot. The Winnipeg Free Press was a big a big catalyst for that that whole funding the media thing. And Global is asking for taxpayer dollars now.

They want the federal government to pay 25% of their salaries nationwide in the form of tax subsidies, which I found laughable. Any media source that is funded by the government in any way, is obviously going to be slanted towards that government's ideology. It's you don't bite the hand that feeds you. And that's what Trudeau is doing.

And yet there is still so many people who buy what's on television from some cub reporter who's been out of school for two years, seriously, as opposed to a veteran who just happened to step outside of the left-wing corporate media structure and is now doing his or her own thing on independent media. But let me digress for a second. I think that the left-wing corporate media, their bias is largely based upon that funding. It's the corporate inside, as I spoke about earlier, that group think.

It was palpable. You could actually feel it in the newsroom when I was working at that chorus radio station in Winnipeg. You could feel that left-wing ideology. And if I had a thought or a question, it was like, how, dare you ask a question like that? All from these young 20-something reporters who hadn't really had the life experience to have an attitude like that in the first place,

which I found kind of galling. But I think much of it has to do with the fact that, as you pointed out, these people live in large urban centers, and so their attitudes are painted by their environment. Right? So the national media, largely based in, Toronto and Ottawa.

And Ottawa is the worst. Toronto, definitely there is a bubble there. But Ottawa, you've got the parliamentary press gallery, that bubble. And I was talking about this on my show last night. There's 25 people in this bubble. Black Locks reported they're trying to throw them out now. I think that's the best news publication in this entire country. And they're trying to throw them out of the parliamentary press gallery for being disruptive,

which is laughable. But these people, 25 or so reporters, Globe and Mail, Toronto Star yet again, CTV, many from CBC and whatnot, they color the attitude of the entire country, 25 of them. And there's that group think again. These people all get together. They all go for drinks on a Tuesday and Thursday night at the Capitol Hill Bar on Spark Street in Ottawa. And occasionally they'll rub shoulders with politicians. and they become this tight unit. Have you ever noticed that a lot of these publications or networks will broadcast the same story the same way on the same night?

Well, that's because they're all sitting having drinks the night before that story comes out and they're commiserating about how they're going to present this story. And so naturally, the person in charge of the story at CTV was just talking with the person in charge of the story at CBC and Global. about how they're going to present it. And sure, they'll put their own little slants on it, but ultimately it will be the same story, written in the same way, presented in the same way. And that is going out to the entire nation.

And people are still buying that nonsense. 25 of them. That's it. So Pierre Pollyov, when asked by Andrew Lottin of TNC.News True North, about why he doesn't do these parlius, parliamentary press conferences, he said, because I don't want these 25 Laurentian elites deciding what I've said. I don't need them parsing out what I've said. I would rather it go to the

horse's mouth or to the people. So he's doing more independent media than I think any political leader in Canadian history, which is a good thing. And seeing as how Trudeau has paid for all of those people, that parliamentary press gallery anyway, you know that anything that Pollyev says is going to be painted in a negative light. And the same goes for Maxim Bernier. So he is subverting that particular press gallery and he's moving to a more direct way of speaking to Canadians. And I happen to praise him for that. I don't know exactly what percentage. I was having a conversation with Wayne Peters from What's Up Canada about this. Like how much has the independent media media, and I'm not even going to talk about Bill C-11 yet, but how much is the independent

media got in terms of market share? News market share in this country is compared to all of the big networks. What do you think about that, Sean? Have we made any kind of inroads in the last couple of years? Have we made any inroads? Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay, so in a percentage way, like like you show is like yours, mine, Wayne's, then you've got the bigger online digital operations like TNC Rebel News, West Western standard. Western standard. All of the, you know, the people that post Greg Wycliffe, folks like that, do we have

a market share? I mean, I would love it if we could all get together and say, what are your numbers, right? Yeah, that's interesting. We have to, you know, when, look at Danielle Smith. When she ran to become premier, certainly she did some of the mainstream stuff, but what did she lean on. I mean, I'm not sitting here. My listeners will have their own thoughts, but she came on my show. She went on a few different podcasts. They got her in some hot water, right? Because of, you know, on a podcast, you have to talk and say things. Gee, what a novel

idea. And she leaned on that a lot. I wish she would lean back on it again, to be honest, you know, but she's got, now she gets to stand on a podium and they got her, you know, it's the premier. She isn't just some crazy woman. You know, I wish that she would take some lessons from Ron DeSantis in Florida. He handles them so well. Anyway, I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I just, when you talk about market share, we have to. You know, like I worked with Western Standard for nine episodes.

And I just walked in and said, hey, I want to, this is what I want to do. And I don't think they really knew who I was. And they put me on and they wanted my content. And that just doesn't happen if you. you have nothing there, shadow. Right? Like, it just doesn't. And it was my choice not to go back.

And that's no knock on the Western standard. I just parted ways mutually and said, man, I just, I think I'm going to stick to my own for the time being. I like, you know, a lot of what you've said is like, I want to be able to say what I want, when I want, with whoever I want, and know that I get, I'm the guy I got to report to. So as far as market share goes, You know, when it comes to certain areas, you know, if we're talking sports, I think we're at zero, you know.

I think spitting chicklets, though, like where do people go for their stories and everything else? They're, you know, like Joe Rogan, like where is his market share? Well, I think we all see the numbers. Look, man, Joe Rogan is probably the number one show on the planet. Yes, he is. You know, he's got more listeners slash viewers combined than all of the late night talk show. shows combined, something like that. 11 million, 12 million viewers slash, and I say viewers slash listeners because he puts his

stuff up video as well like you do. He's got, he has got so many people who download his stuff. And it's phenomenal. But why? Because he asks good questions. And he's a personable dude, right? And guest list. And the fact that there's no sense, right?

They can, they can, you know, like, do I want to? see a guy get high and talk to somebody, I don't know, but some people want to, right? You know, everybody thinks, everybody thinks you want three minutes and get out, and I'm the complete opposite. And I think we're learning a lot about her population that, actually, there's quite a few of us that enjoy hearing, just giving the story, and let's talk about it, let's hear about it. Joe Rogan perfected it. And so there's a lot of people trying to do that. And here in Canada, we don't have Joe Rogan. You know, people joke that I'm the Joe Rogan of the Western Canada, and I laugh at that because I'm like, listen, folks, I'm learning.

I'm like this little person who's, you know, slowly getting better. I don't have shadows experience. I ask a lot of questions because at times I'm like, I am inept for the situation I am in. So I'm just going to keep asking questions and keep trying to get good guests on. But what we are starting to see in Canada is this little ecosystem of interesting, shows starting to pop up you know a couple of names that I think of is Kidd Carson out in Vancouver another radio guy who got and now was he started he started to show you got a couple in in Alberta now two or three you got the social disorder that's Drew Weatherhead he's been on

the show multiple times he takes his entire family down to Texas for six months every year and well this will be the second year he's done it because he doesn't like the way Canada's going lost his business his sister got a giant that sounds terrible Is he the without papers pizza guy, Drew? Is he the without papers pizza guy? No, I don't think so. I thought that was his big. He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu and had a gym and lost it through COVID.

And then his sister got the vaccine, got a really bad injury. And so he goes down to the states. You know, like he's a fantastic story. What I'm getting at. And then Shadow, of course, you and now Wayne in Manitoba. Like you have all these things. Trish Wood starting to do what she's doing out in Ontario. like you have all these what Canada's been missing at least in my eyes for so long is

like opposition yeah and somebody to talk about what's really going on we we stare at Joe Rogan and think he's talking for what Canada's going on hell I stare at Jordan Peterson but neither of them are living it like as much as I love both those guys Joe Rogan is in like one of the freest states in the entire world with millions of dollars so he never has He never has to live any of what we're going through. And Jordan Peterson, man, I got nothing but time. And I'll throw it out one more time here in the world that I would love to have him on the show. So would I.

Let's see who gets him first. Absolutely. A race. But I mean, he's living in Florida. And once again, you got DeSantis as you're like, don't get me wrong. We got Daniel Smith here in Alberta. And I am pushing, you know, when I see some of the things Nautly saying, man, I want nothing but her to get reelected. But I mean, the two, we, us Canadians for so long have turned to the United States to give us our entertainment, our news, our everything.

And that's a disservice because the United States has no idea what the fuck is going on up here. That's why they're, they're searching out, you know, I just saw on Rebel News, not Rebel News, sorry, Fox had Sheila Gunreen. on to talk about made because they're going what is going on up there yeah well we got to start talking about amongst ourselves can't turn to Fox and Tucker Carlson to tell us what's going on in Canada he doesn't fucking live here like figure it out like we we got we got to get people talking about what's going on in Canada figure our shit out because we can't turn to other people to tell us how to live our lives that have different rules different laws different fucking leaders fuck sakes

partner with all the F-bombs, but I mean, like, holy crap. And I think the hope is, is it starting to happen because enough people such as yourself, and I always point to Kidd Carson out on the West Coast, and Trish Wood certainly, you know, and just had Viva Frey on. And, like, it's happening. It's just taking time to get to where it is. Do we have enough time is my question? Well, that's, you know, to me, that's where I go back.

you know, if I flip back to part of the conversation and talking about, you know, building your communities and figuring out how they work and everything else, that's where I'm at. I'm like, the game is in motion. It's been in motion for longer than my lifetime. And that's no conspiracy theory.

That is just life. The chess board has been set and people have been playing it through different iterations, different lifetimes, whatever else. Okay, let me ask. See, that's an interesting analogy, Sean, that you just used. And this is something that I have been trying to explain to people, because people are so big into picking their favorites and choosing sides,

even within the freedom community. You just said the chess board has been set, and it's been set for a long time, and the pieces are in motion. Who's playing? Well, we all get to play. No, no, no. We're the pieces on the board, brother. We don't get to move the pieces unless we're moved by them.

But who's playing? Who's white? Who's black on that chess? sport. Well, now, how high up are you going, Shadow? I'm going right to the tip top. So you're, you're going biblical then? Not necessarily biblical. I'm not going down that rabbit hole. Let's just talk, let's just talk oligarchs. Who's playing that game? And it's not even one person per side, right? So when we hear about Elon Musk and what he's doing with Twitter, I mean, I think it's absolutely wonderful that we have free speech again on at least one social media platform. I think it's great.

I think, now there's people who think he's a good guy and there's people who think he's a bad guy. And there's the reason people think he's a bad guy is because, well, electric cars and now he's got neuralink and he's going to start doing experiments in the human brain and making cyborgs and whatnot. Okay, that's fair. What's the other side doing? The other side is walking in lockstep, trying to put down facial recognition, bring us into a matrix that we'll never be able to get out of with the digital currencies, programmable digital currencies they want to bring in in the next couple of years. And by 2030, we're all going to be slaves inside of an open air cage.

So who's the good guy? Who's the bad guy here? Maybe it's not that one is a good guy or a bad guy. Maybe they're both bad guys. And they're fighting for control. Doesn't it just come back to control power and different ideologies? Sure, sure. But one thing must catch.

One group truly believes that if the population continues to grow, we are going to all die. Yes. That is what motivates them. At least that's what it looks like to me, Shadow. So that is the Bill Gates, that is the George Soros, that is the Clouche-Wive. You're right, the Larry Fakes, yes. They look at it and they go. If we continue on our trajectory, we're all dead.

So what we have to do is slowly implement things that are going to, sure, kill some people, but we're all going to die anyways. So we're going to push these things. We're going to eliminate these things. It's going to make the world better for everyone long term because we all can survive, or at least a chunk of the population will be able. The human species will survive this way. And then you have the other side that is like human ingenuity and the human spirit and everything else.

find ways and we will and we're not as bad to the earth is what they try and make us out to be. And we just don't, this side doesn't have a controlling share in a lot of things right now because we don't have a, you know, media has been on this, this, this side of the world is ending because it sells. People fear sells, fear is like terrifying and be terrifying to think that, you know, and, and And in fairness, part of what they sell is like easy for the population to ingest. You know, it makes sense that, you know, all these people are, we're destroying the planet. And then they show you a couple images of what we're doing.

And you're like, oh, yeah, that's right. Dude, they got the marketing down. They got the marketing down. They've had the marketing down for years, those guys, right? So who's on the other side of the board, though? So we all know who's sitting on that side of the board. it seems like it's Musk.

Musk is, Elon Musk has said, okay, all of these technologies are coming, you can't stop them. You cannot stop Neurilink. You cannot stop the Tesla. He's going to take SpaceX out to Mars.

You can't stop it. The technology is there already. What we know of technology is very limited to compared to what actually exists. This is something I have learned from several people who used to be with CIS

who will remain namely. publicly forever, at least by me. These people say the technologies that are just coming out now, they have been around for years, new to you, very old to the people that created them in the first place. So what's really out there, Musk said that the technology can be used for good or the technology can be used for evil. And we need to make sure the good guys are going to be using it. So I think that Musk, and I don't believe he's alone in all of this either.

I think that there's still some players yet to be named who are going to start making their presence known. Now, I'm not sitting here saying, QAnon, white hats, black hats. I am just talking about, in general, what is going on out there. You can't tell me that all of these billionaire technocrat oligarchs agree on everything. There is absolutely no way. imagine the egos involved in a room like that. Like if you've got 150 of these people sitting around a table, right,

do you think they're honestly all going to get along and agree on everything that Larry thinks says? No, of course they're not. There's going to be opposing viewpoints. And the egos on these people, Sean, I'm not sure if you've ever met anybody with a massive ego or what we think is a massive ego. This guy thinks his shit doesn't stink. You can't do wrong at all ever.

These guys, multiply that by a thousand and then put them in charge of the planet. Right? These people think that we are insects. And that's the only thing I think a room full of people like that would agree on when it comes to the planet. But I think that that whole thing, that whole globalist thing, has no chance of success because of just what I said, just now. they are never going to agree on everything all the time. The governments, they're mid-players, they're mid-management in this whole thing.

Trudeau, he's just a mouthpiece, he's nothing, he's a puppet. Same with Biden, same with all of the other world leaders, so-called world leaders. Klaus Schwab is a puppet, but he was given a speech at the G20 a couple of weeks ago. Why was he there? People don't even get that? What's Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum

doing, giving a speech to the 20 most economically powerful nations on the planet. People don't put these things together. But ultimately, it's going to come down to a war between billionaires, I think. And it's Elon Musk and his mysterious army, and I think they're probably mysterious for a reason, versus the already established lockstep of the Soros, Klaus Schwab, Larry Fink, globalist crowd. That's what I think is going on right now. So there's a lot of, you know, know, pieces being moved on the chess board, as you say. We are spectators at best. Well, then, then we're a chess board. We're a chess board within a chess board. Yes, yes. We're

probably the board that the pieces are on. You ever see that meme where, you know, once we get up, because we're the ones who are holding the board that they're playing up on our backs, right? Once we get up, all the pieces fly and that's it. It's over. We, at, As people, you know, we think we can't fight back. There's no way we can ever fight back. We can't. Of course we can't. We've seen it happen.

Like I said, it's happening all over the world earlier on in our conversation. Brazil. The Netherlands. We've seen it in Australia. We've seen it in Italy. We've seen it in France. We've seen it in Canada. We've seen it in the United States.

People are not willing to accept the nonsense. and I believe our side is going to become larger and louder as time goes on. And when we reach critical mass, that's when the game is over for these people. I think they've already lost personally. But the way we get them more than anything else is we hit them in the wallets. And so what I've been saying is take your money away from them and invest in something that's,

long time tried and true like gold like silver it's always been there right not crypto something else i got into with boyd anderson i got into a conversation with about crypto and he says now in in boyd's mind everything is bad right everybody is evil there is no good guy i mean it's it's inevitable that we're all going to wind up dad or uh slaves and he says Elon Musk wrote the code for cryptocurrency. He and a couple of other guys. And maybe that's true, not all cryptocurrency, but definitely Bitcoin. And for me, you know, I'm thinking, okay, that maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but why would I invest thousands of my hard-earned dollars into something that I don't know where it came from? Who made this? What is it exactly, right? How do I forage for it

online. What is it? Well, obviously it was put out by somebody for a reason, but who? Them. They want us to put our money into something that they can get a hold of. And people say, well, it's impenetrable. Nobody can steal your cryptocurrency. You've got it in a crypto wallet and it's encrypted. No, it's not. We have heard there have been huge Bitcoin thefts. It's, at different times across the world. Or they can control what the value of cryptocurrency is Bitcoin or what if some of the other ones, Ethereum. Yeah, they can control whether it goes up and down by releasing the crackin.

Boy told me. And I went, what? Because it's a program they put out. If they want the currency to crash or go up, they just release the crackin. And within 10 seconds, it will go up and then come back down or vice versa. They control that. So why on earth would I want to invest in something? that is so sketchy as cryptocurrency.

When the governments are developing their own centralized, digital, programmable cryptocurrency, I'm going to put my money in gold, thank you very much, because gold, gold is always going to be there. But that's a whole other discussion. That's for the parallel economy discussion. I think that we have a chance here, but it's got to be hitting them in the wallet. That's the only thing they understand. It's not going to be riots in the streets. We've been trying that.

And I do believe those riots in the streets, sorry, protests in the streets will get louder and louder and louder as time goes on. But I do believe the only way to get to them is through a good old-fashioned bank run. Then they're going to start feeling it. Listen, as far as money in the banks go, sure. I just come back to if you use your thought a chess board but we're just whatever, then we play on a deal. different chess board as well because I just come back to what you can do in your own communities by figuring out levers of power what actually you know is it the school board is it city council is it the you know RMs is it whatever it is because there's insulation that is

provided there if you have the right people on it shadow and different different different same fight but different it's the same war on the same battle not on this not in the same scale right I go back to Tom Longo geez the Tom and Alex have been popular men on the show. And he talks about, you know, the giants are going to fight and us, and it's just got to make sure we don't get stepped on. And it's like, yeah, I agree. But meanwhile, while you're not getting stepped on, the world doesn't just stop and you just sit and wait it out, it's like the world's still going on. So you can still get involved in your communities, figure out where the key and the big decisions come from. Because I just assumed, you know,

the government decides something. Boom. just across the board. Well, we found out that is not the case. What they did was, is they pushed it down to the companies, to each individual RM or whatever you have, to each school board to enact all these policies. It's like, so we could have said no? Yeah.

What? Like, what? Like, what do we? Okay. Well, if that's the case, then while we're letting the big boys duke it out, because obviously Shadow and myself aren't, you know, in that fight, we can still do things that makes life better or, you know,

I mean, talks about these things, allows for people to prepare in different ways, or maybe just get people thinking about things that they never would have, in their wildest dreams, thought about. Well, that's the difficult thing, right? You know, I say to my audience every single night, I say you guys are responsible for spreading the word. You guys are responsible for bringing one extra viewer to tomorrow night show. You guys are responsible for continuing to try,

even though it may feel like you're beating your head against the wall. You are responsible for continuing to try to talk sense into the folks who are calling you conspiracy theorist and tinfoil hat. It's on you. And whichever way you feel, best to do that. You should do that. I offer suggestions, right? And they range from how did any of these regulations make any sense whatsoever? And how do they still make sense? You have to wear a mask in a hospital. But when you come outside the hospital and go to the Tim Hortons across the street, no, no mask required.

Explain to me why a virus, whichever virus it happens to be, is more lethal and more communicable in a but not at Tim Hortons. And also, why would a guy like Justin Trudeau, when faced with a question from a reporter just as recent as yesterday, reporter says, well, RSV, influenza and COVID, all three, triple threat. Hospitals are bulging at the seams. What are we going to do? We all must get vaccinated. For what, Justin? Are we going to get vaccinated for the flu for COVID and for RSV? Because there is no vaccine for that yet. I hear they're working on it, but they don't have one yet. So you're suggesting we get vaccinated for this and that?

Like, what exactly? Or maybe there's another respiratory virus out there that we don't have a vaccine for. But everything that this guy says, the answer is, get vaccinated. That's the answer, right? Canada lost at the World Cup. Why? It's those damn unvaccinated. I mean, seriously, there were jokes and memes flying around.

about that for a couple of years, right? Trudeau slipping on the ice and blaming the unvaccinated for hurting his back. I mean, that kind of thing. So how does that make any sense? And I say to the viewers every single night, you guys take this and ask why. Don't just jam it down their throats. Ask why. Why does this make sense to you? Or does it? Or are you just doing what you're told? what is it exactly that's motivating you to do this, meaning following the regulations, or not wanting to listen at all? Because I'll tell you that the man who wants to be left alone,

when he finally wakes up, he's pissed. He's pissed. And he wants heads. And he's waking up. people ask me too you know most of my viewership Sean is female for some reason I don't know why and I look at that and I go hmm 70 30 percentage wise and I go is it because women are more more motivated is it because of the mother instinct women are more motivated to protect their kids from all of the monstrosities that are happening now happened in the past just past couple of years

and may happen in the future is it because men are disinterested is it just me? I don't know. And I'm trying to figure out where all the men are because I know that once these guys, once these alpha dudes wake up, it's game over for the other side. And we've seen some of that,

but we need to see more of it. Because once those guys come around, there's going to be problems. For the other guys, not for us. I mean, it's going to be a good thing for us. I think a lot of people share your thoughts on a lot of women being awake or at least following along very closely. Zubi, one of the, you know, the British rapper with over a million followers.

He talked about that like six months ago and I certainly noticed that a ton of women follow the podcast as well. And so like, well, why is that? And, you know, I can't put my finger on here's the reason, but, But it is an interesting point that a lot of people are pointing out. You know, one final question here for you, Shadow, and then I'll let you get on with your day. It's been an enjoyable, you know, feel like we could do this for four hours, and I'm sure there's some people at the radio just carry on then.

Well, the Crude Master, well, and we'll see where you go with this. It's the Crude Master final question. It's Heath and, shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald. They've been supporters of the podcast for, well, pretty much. since the beginning. And it's he's words. He said, if you're going to stand behind a cause, then stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing Shadow stands behind? Truth. The truth. I've got a lifelong problem with lies. I don't like liars. I don't suffer liars well. And I've got a bullshit detector that is pretty close to 100%. So clearly, I don't do well

with politicians of any stripe because they're liars. The worst, the lie, the worst I deal with it. I almost said freedom there, Sean, when you said, what does one thing, Shadow stand behind? Yeah, I stand behind freedom, but I look at it as truth and freedom. Wasn't that a Superman thing? Freedom, truth in the American way? I don't know, but it's the truth. I hated in radio closed door meetings because you always knew something bad was going to happen, right? Oh, look, Ross is in a meeting. The door is closed. Gee, I wonder who's getting fired tomorrow.

That's how it went. You could smell it. You could smell the bullshit through the hallways. And I couldn't stand it. And what I would say to these guys is, look at, just be honest, man. I mean, I can take it. I'm a grown up here. I mean, I've been around here.

I'll probably get another job in the next few days. But I'm not interested in being played along. I'm not interested in being a sap. I don't like people, you know, I'm in a personal relationship, whether it's romantic, friendship, whatever it is. Don't lie to me, man. You know, don't think you're protecting me by lying to me about something or other. Just be honest. Tell me the truth.

I will tell you the truth. I'm the guy that will walk up to you at a party and say, you know what, man? You got snot dripping out your nose. and that probably not looking good for you. So maybe go to the can, wipe your nose off, come back. Things will be better after that, right? I'm the guy that would say to, look, like I said, I'm not the most tactful person in the world,

but I am honest. And I've said to many young people who were just trying to start out in the radio industry because they loved it so much, but they just didn't have the talent to be on-air performers. They didn't have a great voice or a great presentation or they weren't able to really put three sentences together that made a lot of sense, whatever it was.

There's that certain something, right? People just did not have it. And I would try to coach them along. I'd take a couple of months because I always, you know, my thing is giving back. I got a lot of support when I first came into the business from people. I respect immensely who were still in it today or have retired, but they're amazing people and they took the time to have.

help me and coach me along, get me my first job and whatever. And so I tried to do that with young people as I was in the industry. And after a couple or three months, you can pretty much tell sooner than that. You can pretty much tell this person is not cut out to be on the air. So I would say, I would take this person aside for a coffee or a drink or whatever it was. And I would say, look, have you always been interested in being on the air? Because there's many other things that you can do in radio besides being all. being on the air. There's music, there's production, there's writing, there's sales, there's

engineering, there's all manner of things. And you're still in radio. You're just not on, why am I not good enough? Say, you know what? I don't know. I mean, if you try to get on the air, you may just get on the air. But I don't know if you're going to go anywhere and do anything, unless you've got some kind of amazing fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth gear that you're going to pull out of your ass and all of a sudden this talent starts to show. But I've been around long enough to know it doesn't usually happen like that. So maybe you should think about doing something else. I have always been about the truth. So if there's one thing and, you know what, I don't like hurting people's feelings and I don't like letting them down. But sometimes you just have to be

honest so somebody can get on with their life or somebody can see the truth because they need to see the truth. I'm not the arbiter of truth, but I believe in people being told the truth, the truth. This is what the truth is. This is how we need to approach it. That's my thing.

Yeah, my grandmother, who's you know, has been passed for some time, she come from a generation that that's what they dealt it. They just gave you the truth. It didn't feel good, but you knew they did it out of not like hate, just out of like, you know, I care for you and this is what the truth is.

Well, dude, you know what? And it doesn't feel good for about five seconds. And then after that, you can carry on, you know, as you say, get on with your life. I will say this, that if somebody tells you the truth, that means they care about you. Somebody who doesn't tell you the truth will lie to you. And, sorry, somebody who doesn't tell you the truth doesn't really care so much about you. The truth tellers are the ones that do care. They care because they're going to sit down and take the time to help you with that.

Liars will just lie to you and walk by. Hey, that's great. Good news. Good. Awesome. And keep walking. Right. The truth teller is going to go, this is rough.

Because think about it. Like how much does it take? How much time and effort does it take to sit somebody down and say, I don't think you're going to be good. enough here, right? And it's not out of malice that anybody, at least I've experienced in my life, would ever say that to somebody. It's not because, ha, ha, you know, I'm really, I get a chance to deliver a truth bomb on somebody today. That's not how I personally ever looked at it. I don't know anybody, I'm sure there's people out there who have, but I just look at it as like,

oh, that's a, it's a, it's a sad thing to have to do that, you know, it's, it's a, it's a sad thing to have to do that. You know, it does not feel good for anybody, but at the same time, I think it needs to happen. Or else the person's just going to keep, you know, walking through life and eventually go nowhere after 20 years. What then? I've wasted 20 years of my life. Move on to something you're really good at, man. And so, yeah, truth. Truth is the way.

The truth shall set you free. well shadow i've uh it's uh it's it's nice to finally you know um i'm saying this to wayne peters obviously uh you brought him up and uh listeners i remember i finally had wayne on after like i don't know like a year and a half of talking to him and obviously now with his um lgm looking glass media dot news lgm dot news uh if you're looking to see what wayne's uh newest project is you can take a look there either way it shadow when it comes to you it's it's cool to finally get to sit across from you have a conversation because I've you know it's it's almost been in like we're in the same world I hear

about you all the time but we've just never connected and now to finally sit down and have a conversation and how easy it is geez to just fall in and away we go it's been a lot of fun I'm sure it won't be the last time we we sit and have a conversation. Either way, though, I do appreciate you, you know, rubbing your eyes this morning, getting up for me and doing this. Not my natural time. Sean, thank you for having me on. We're going to return the favor and get you on my show one of these nights very soon, too. But I know you've got the three little ones and you're a busy dude and my show is live every night. So we're going to have to pick a night where you're not going to have the three kids

screaming and yelling in the background. We can find some quiet time, at least an hour, maybe an hour and a half, and we can just have a good talk one night live. Oh, absolutely. Well, that's why you can't see it, but I have an actual studio that's away from the house. That way, there's no interruptions. Oh, cool, man. I'm going to have to do that too. I'm in my dining room here. Don't tell anybody. I have, you know, a little 12 by 12 room in an office building because, well, if I tried doing it at home, it would be mayhem. I don't know how I'd do it. obviously recording right now isn't a big deal but certainly you know um uh nights or you know even afternoons at times could be really really difficult so no either way i'd love to love to shadow um i've really enjoyed this conversation and and obviously look forward to the next one cool man

thanks a lot and i will talk to you soon shot