Shaun Newman Podcast - #358 - The Pleb

Episode Date: December 16, 2022

Truck driver, internet troll and now independent journalist. We discuss drag shows, pronouns & the clown world.  Let me know what you think Text me 587- 217-8500

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And you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. All right, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by the Pleb, the Pleb reporter. You've become another man in this world of podcasting Twitter universe that goes by a handle. Either way, the Pleb, P, I'm going to have to figure a way to get this figured out. Either way, I should have been thinking about it before I had you on. Thanks for hopping on. Hey, no problem, man.

Thanks for having me on your show. It's funny that you're having people like me on your show. when I've seen some of the guests you've had on here before who are serious people in this world and now you're having the Pleb on. Well, it's funny, though. You know, it's funny. I think a lot of people look at the world

and they call it the clown world or whatever. And at times, you've got to have some people that can breed a little humor back into the world and some of your stuff is just like spot on. And I find when I watch some of your videos, I'm like, it seems relatively balanced to me. I don't know. Maybe I'm the crazy one.

Who knows? Either way, I've enjoyed. And I think certainly there are some names on the list that are pretty high profile. At the end of the day, it's about trying to showcase some of what's going on in Canada. I mean, you're doing that. Absolutely, man, for sure. And you never know. Maybe I was joking with you, Quick Dick, McDick, and I'm going to laugh about this.

When I had Quick Dick McDick on the first time, and I actually had 222 minutes on the first time, anytime they did a podcast. And I just look at what you're doing. I'm like, ah, this is going to work. Like, this is going to, I don't know where it's going, but it's going to work. And so I'm like, well, I want to find the story and hear about it so I can follow along and you just never know where it leads. That all being said, man, you got to tell me who the heck, how this starts, what brought

this on? Because I think a lot of people, A, maybe aren't on Twitter, so they have an idea. You know, I got a huge chunk of the following on the podcast that don't follow Twitter, so they're going to have no idea who you are. And then there's going to be a bunch of people that fall on Twitter and we're like, where did this guy come from? And I'm just curious. I'm literally curious in the,

the story. I mean, it all started, um, I started getting red pilled during the pandemic, to be honest with you. I've always been like a pretty center kind of dude, pretty socially liberal, fiscally conservative kind of guy. Um, so I considered myself down the middle, but the pandemic truly red pilled me, to be honest. And I went to Ottawa for the convoy for those three weeks. I, I wasn't there the whole three weeks, but I was there multiple times during the three weeks. and what I saw being done to those truckers in the media versus what I saw on the ground lit a fire in me like you would not believe. That was truly when my fight against, you know,

clown world and the establishment started was when I left the convoy. So ever since then, you know, I'm someone who's who's been, you know, I used to make troll videos, entertaining videos on Facebook. I always like trolling around making people. laugh. But I said this time I would try to use that energy for something good and to take on the establishment. And this is kind of what I'm doing with the Pleb, man. I'm taking on clown world. I'm taking on the corrupt

media. I'm taking on the government with my humor. You know, not trying to push it to extreme limits or anything ridiculous. I'm staying within the rules, trying to keep things humorous and trying to expose to Twitter, especially like just how ridiculous this world is. So that's kind of me. Exposing the clown world. Well, I think, you know, I'll be the, well, probably not the first say it, but it's

cool to see what you're doing because I just, you know, you go back a year. Nobody was doing anything. Like, not nobody was doing anything. Certainly there's some shows, but like there, you think about it, like, the amount of changes that has happened since the convoy till now, how many voices are speaking up, you know, Elon Musk buying Twitter, you know, you can think he's the sayer, you can think he's the opposite, but Twitter has changed immensely since he took over. Like it's, well, speaking of Elon Musk, like, there was something in the convoy, I think,

that made Elon switch as well. Like, when he came out and said, uh, Canadian truckers rule, yeah, he was like pro convoy. I think that convoy redpilled a lot of people, man. It truly did. And, um, yeah, he's one of them. I truly believe like the pandemic and the convoy, like, sent him into the red pill, the extreme red pill territory. And I'm kind of the same way. man, truly. I think this woke up a lot of people. Well, I got to, we caught up to the convoy in Ontario.

And I couldn't believe that and certainly there's some independent guys that went along for the convoy and have been doing, making some documentaries and that type of thing. But, you know, if you're a news media in Canada, like major outlet,

you should have been riding along, you should have been filming that entire thing. You had, you could have done a 24-7, like, just even had at midnight the camera live stream and oh the trucks are just parked idling and you would have people watching because it was that Ottawa was something I'll never forget the ride to Ottawa is something that is just like insane the videos from the overpasses with all the families on the overpasses the signs people on the side of the highway because the overpasses were so jam packed that people were like standing on the side of the highway cheering people on

it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life, to be honest. That was the greatest three weeks in our country's history. And it's funny how is there such a contrast between the right and the left of this being the most beautiful, most Canadian Canada at its best versus the other side trying to sell it as an insurrection as a hateful thing, a hateful protest. And it's wild how the media was able to spin that. But I will tell you this, Sean, we are so blessed that there was YouTubers on site with live streaming cameras to basically expose the government for the lies that they were

pulling on the news and kind of showing people like unedited footage of that convoy. They saved our ass, Sean. Well, I tell you, what saved our ass, that on top of everybody having a camera. Like everybody could just hold up, like you had thousands of people just live stream. This is wild. And, you know, when you talk about red pillen, I remember the first night there, after you'd seen everything and I'm sure you at some point did this as well

because you only did once, you didn't need to do it after that. You're watching and you're walking around and you're like, wow, this is, this is something. And then I turned on the CBC that night and listened to them talk about it and I was like, what is going on? Like, what is going on?

Yeah. This is insane. Like they need to go down. You know, I've met so many people, all they needed to do was just get out of their house, drive down, whatever, just to go see it for themselves. And tons of people talked about how nervous they were.

Like they, you know, they kind of let the filter of like it's dangerous, that type of thing. And then they got there and there's some pretty funny recounts of like where they're walking. And like this isn't anything like what they said. And then pretty soon they're high fiving and they're, you know, they're doing everything. And I assume you probably know similar people. I'm assuming there's certain things about that week or three weeks. I should say, that are just emblazed in your mind. What sticks out to you a photo?

The thing that friggin pissed me off the hardest was that like my brother-in-law, okay, who's like a do-gooder, normie type of dude. He's a total normie, right? Like, you know, the type of dude during the pandemic that posted pictures of him getting his vaccine shots, you know, to be a good Canadian, that kind of guy. He went out on Facebook after and wrote a post after the first weekend. After like the first weekend, yeah. It's like, oh, if you're supporting this convoy, you're supporting racism and the desecration of statues and this and that.

Like the images that the CBC like ingrained into that guy's head. I feel bad because like I don't, it's hard to be mad at him totally because he's a normie. He's not really awake. But like the manipulation that the media was able to do on these people to make them feel like the convoy was truly an evil thing. That is the fire that's lit inside of me, Sean. That's why I'm fighting these people. This is why I'm using everything I can to make the administration and the media look like clowns. Because they are clowns and they're liars.

And, you know, with this whole Bill C-11 coming in right now, I really think that, you know, coming back to like the live streaming, the mainstream media, the TV and the radio, they're like losing influence. It's mostly boomers who listen to this. And like those people are going to die. So now the internet, like the government, like really wants. to put their hands into censoring social media, censoring YouTube. I think it really came down to the convoy, man.

These live streamers that were on the ground showing people an alternative view of the convoy, freak the government out because it discredited their narrative. And ever since then, they're doing everything they can to control social media. And this is why I really think it comes down to those live streamers during those three weeks that really, really discredited their narrative. I don't know what you think about that. Well, I've talked to and interviewed, you know, over the course of the podcast, a few different investigative journalists or journalists, that type of thing.

And Byron Christopher sticks out to me because he really implanted on me. And Byron's this older, investigated journalist. He lives in Eminton now. And been all over the world, exposed things. And he once told me he felt safer in a pretty, because he interviewed inmates, then he did it around media. And I remember him telling me that and being like, what the hell are you talking about?

This is well before the, heck, this was probably, pandemic had just started, and I was just like, what do you mean? Like I don't get, and now you kind of start to understand. But another thing that came out of that was just how long it's been going on. You know, first it was the printing press, right? And then they controlled that.

because that was the way the public digested. You know, and then radio, you know, I've talked a lot about Roosevelt doing fireside chats. He, um, from 1933 to 1945, he wasn't sure. And, you know, I might be butchering this a smidge to the listener, but he wasn't sure that his message would get portrayed the way he wanted it in the papers. So he went and did fireside chats on radio. And then, you know, over time, radio kind of gets, you know, captured, whatever you. And then you get the TV and then well, TV is kind of, and well, it is what it is. And now you have this iteration.

And it does not surprise me that the government does not like what's going on here because they're getting bashed, left, right, and center. People are looking for what the hell is actually going on. And the thing is, you can find it very, very easy. You just got to, you just, you just, wonder they've got to pick up your phone and look for a couple things. And all of a sudden it's just like the information is unbelievable. And so them trying to constrict it doesn't surprise me. government was a I hear an argument on the internet saying oh you know the news back in the day you can trust the news I think that's probably pretty bullshit right Sean if you think about it like they were controlling narratives back in the 30s 20s 50s it's always been like this right we just have more access to exposing it I guess now through social media

do you in your opinion as a journalist do you think like the news has always been biased well I think it's it's certainly always been biased even this is bias right you're by like I I what my biases the only thing that's different about well I think that I'm different I openly acknowledge it people are like oh you're conservative this that and it's like yeah well yeah that's way I think like I I would like the Green Party to stand up and and show some of my values but they don't like they just don't so you know like what am I gonna do I'm gonna push and try and open up dialogue around the things that concern me and everybody's got their own perspectives and I think that's what's interesting

about all the different independent journalists starting to poke up their heads and starting to just talk about things. That's what we're doing. We're literally talking. Yeah, absolutely. But I would say it probably comes in different, there had to have been a time where when it was a local TV station, a local newspaper, where it wasn't nearly as what it is today. because you know like when it is say decentralized and everybody's got their little nodes everywhere you know and they're reporting on their community I don't know sure was it was it a little bit controlled in that community yeah I'm sure they didn't want to you know just report the gossip of the day but at the same time is very focused on

your community now everything so centralized like you know like I just had Eric Payne and and dr. William Macas two doctors at Alberta talking about how they want to centralize all the doctors colleges out of Ottawa. So there's just one place where they can just, and you're like, that's the opposite way to go. We don't need to do that. Like we need to focus on our little areas making them better. If all them get better,

then I think the country gets better. No one entity can see what's going on in Newfoundland to BC to little. This is how these people think, though. They're globalists. They're, I agree. They want one government. They want everything centralized.

They think one solution can, solve all the problems. And we just went through two years where we understand unequivocally. It is the wrong mindset. Of course. Of course. Because now we have bodies outside of our government making health decisions for us, like the WHO making decisions for all these countries. I didn't vote on my representatives at the WHO.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It's messed up. This is where they want to go, truly. I don't know if you want to get too much of the conspiracies. I mean, I like conspiracy. I don't dwell in them too much on Twitter. But I do believe in them. I believe that if you're someone on Twitter who's talking about conspiracy is 24-7,

you're doing yourself a disservice. People are not going to listen to you as a serious person. But I do believe in the globalism and I do believe that these people are definitely evil working together to enslave us, for sure. Well, I was just actually having this discussion. I don't get your thought on it. To me, it boils down to a simple mindset of either pro-human or anti-human. think that human beings are a plague on the earth and we are slowly choking it and

killing it and the only way to get to survival of the human race is to basically reduce the population and we control it yeah and the other side of that coin is like no human beings are pretty smart we have our we're just like anything we have our problems but if we use human ingenuity and we think you know and we try and help the environment we do the right things and we try and blah blah blah, with humanity in general, we can do things

that are really, really good. And if you're on the side of like, we're killing the planet, whatever, ever, almost all ends justify the means.

Or the end always justifies the means. They're using this fear to put more taxes on us, though. This is like the real thing. They want to put carbon taxes. Next thing you know, we're going to have,

um, did you see, did you see the COVID passports and we're going to have like a mission, um, limits per human, you know, they're going to, climate lockdowns are coming, man. I don't trust a single thing these people say just due to their track record, you know.

So if they say climate change is real, I naturally don't believe it because I don't believe anything they say. I really don't. I believe that pollution is a problem. I see the oceans. You know, I see the middle of the Pacific. There's a garbage pile there, the size of Texas. I get it.

Pollution. But I also look at, you know, I talk to people who are a little bit smarter than me on this climate change stuff. And I'm hearing things like natural. cycles of the universe like we used to be in an ice age and you start asking yourself you know and i looked at like the last 50 uh years and how many of them were um how many of them had as christmases when no snow like green christmases and like there was a bunch of them in the 50s the 60s the 70s the 80s it's a trend that goes decade over decade over decade we're not heading and

i'm not i'm not like super super super informed on on this stuff but when the government starts blaming hurricanes on climate change and stuff like that, then I start having a problem with it, man. They're just, I see the agenda. I interviewed Patrick Moore. He was a former president of Greenpeace way back when, right? And he's left and we all know, well, both of us know about made here in Canada, right, medically assisted. And when I look at him, I come back to Patrick Moore and Greenpeace. When they initially started, he was on the founding board, I believe if memory serves me correct and they had an agenda and it was to stop you know killing of whales and so what they do that's what they pushed and pushed and they have all these

wild stories and they eventually got to I'm not sitting here saying all the whales are you know alive and well but they got to a point where they got regulations put in on countries and everything else but he said but now you're you're you're an organization you have money coming in and so then you have to get to a new issue okay what do we solve the next and then you solve that one what do you next and it just keeps going and going and going and going and going and now it's so far from what it originally was you get to where we are made's the same thing made started in 1980 I believe I believe it's 1980 it's somewhere in that time frame the lobbying for it right from you know let's give people dignity at

the end of their life so we all know Justin Trudeau gets elected in the first year of him made gets brought in and most of us are rational people I think we go, if you got stage four cancer, you're in your 70s, heck, if you're in your 60s, I don't know what the age is. And I'm going to have some listeners go, hey, I'm 60 and I don't want that. I agree. I'm just saying at some point in your life, you know, your situation looks pretty dire. And if you want to have that way out, I think most of us are like, sure, sure.

Yeah. But now it's- Why are you offering it to people who are depressed? Why are you offering it to veterans who are like having a hard time in life right now? Offering them suicideism. This is like diabolical. Because it's become the. people pushing for it have become an organization. They're now making millions of dollars.

And so now they have to keep pushing the envelope. Oh, there's a lady who's 22 and she's got these problems. Well, we should give her the option. And military vets. And now they're talking about mature minors and the mentally ill. And you're like, why are they doing this? And I just come back to Patrick Moore. They've been fighting for it for so long. They finally get it. Instead of just being like, okay, hands done. It's opened the door. It's become a slippery slope. And now it just keeps coming worse and worse. And I honestly, I'll ask you, how do you put that back in the box? How do you slow it down? How do you stop it? How do you make sure mature minors isn't on that bill? Like, I can't imagine anyone in this country. We keep mocking it on social media, man. We keep

making a mockery of it because as it deserves, offering people with depression, the option to kill themselves because they're depressed is ridiculous. It's a joke that writes itself, a sad joke that writes itself. Man, there's nothing funny about it. That is the darkness of our government right now. Yeah. These are, these are not good people that are running us, Sean.

Truly not the best. No, not a big fan of the suicides. No, it, well, you know, shit,

I, if someone has stage four cancer and they don't want to suffer the last week of their life for two weeks of their life and they're like in physical pain and there's like no way out for them, sure, right?

But someone's depressed, the teenager's depressed, you know? Same thing with the teenagers who are depressed, like, who were giving like, puberty blockers and stuff like that like stay away from the kids with these things man seriously well that's that's something that i'm curious about you you went to uh like you've been

following the kids drag show uh movement show i don't know a little bit here and there yeah yeah what it like you've been kind of on the front lines of of going to a boston pizza i saw recently it wasn't me that was karima though i was just resharing her content oh were you just resharing Yeah, it was, I linked the content onto my page. I just liked your breakdown. I thought it was very, you watched my breakdown. Okay, so that was like a video that clearly is not going to be very popular with my base, okay, where I posted these videos.

I'm seeing a lot of people coming out and just saying like horrific things towards the drag queens and like barf emojis and like pedophile. And I'm like, okay, that's not me. I don't think these people are all pedophiles. I don't think they're disgusting. I don't really have hatred for them. I really have hatred for the parents who are bringing their kids to these things. They're the real assholes in this whole story.

I just wanted my audience to know like kind of where I stood with that. I have no problem with. I like gay people, man. Zerr never had a problem with gay people. Never had a real problem with drag queens. I don't know. I would never bring my kid to that type of thing because I think there's better things you can bring your kids to like the park or the mall or a movie or something like do kid things. involving kids in the culture war is something I find absolutely disgusting, you know.

You're bringing your kids to places where there's cops in the parking lot and people are fighting on the outside screaming at each other. Is that really an environment you want to bring your kids to? That's really the point of my video. And Boston Pizza as well for like implementing their woke ideology on us. And yeah, and the university teachers and all these people who are like implementing the woke mind virus. I'm less mad at the at the drag queens than I am at the people who are trying to push the narrative. I think that the drag queens are probably being used by people way above them to push this woke mind virus in my honest opinion. So I thought they hate towards the the drag queens was a little unfair.

Yeah, I just think drag queens are silly. I don't think. And also people like who think that, you know, a kid seeing a drag queen is going to turn them gay or give them any ideas. I think that's pretty silly too. So I wanted to make a video just kind of explain my stance on that whole issue. And you know what? with my base and my followers, that's not a, that's not an opinion that would be popular. But, you know, sometimes I got to make unpopular opinions and shoot it.

I try to shoot it down the middle or at least like, reasonable. I don't try to be too, too partisan on every single issue, you know. I like to look at it from both sides because I think this country is badly divided right now, man, and we need kind of voices to kind of look at things on both sides and trying to find some, some, uh, some, uh, happy middles, you know, and like some compromising because, uh, this is a very polarized country right now. thanks to Justin Trudeau and man you know anything I could do to to bring the country back together a little bit and at least try to find common ground between both sides I'll be glad to do it well it's a it's a difficult subject to talk about openly the problem we've had I think the problem we've had for

you know I don't know the time frame on it certainly the last five maybe 10 years maybe longer than that's probably longer than that we haven't been able to like if we talk about a trans anything everybody just oh man you know you can't do that you can't and and even myself I find it a very difficult subject to talk about some people can just like no this is wrong blah blah blah or something it's right blah blah blah and what I enjoyed about your breakdown is I'm like I agree with pretty much everything you said I think the thing I've been wrestling with with having young kids is I really really really really do not like implementing sexualization of anything at a young age.

It makes zero sense to me. Let kids be kids. Here's the thing, though, that drag queen at the Boston pizza wasn't really a sexual represent. I put other videos from Lips of TikTok. Where it was really bad. Dudes in a thong in front of kids with their junk out and bulges and stuff. Like, that's real sexualization.

That lady, you know, wearing a dress is just goofy. That's just like comedy. And I don't think it's appropriate to bring kids to this event at all, at all. And it's really the parents who are assholes in this thing. And what's sad about this whole issue is that I think the liberals are doing this to piss us off. They know how much it pisses off the conservatives when they do these drag shows. So they're just going to continue doing them, continue doing them, continue doing them. And the sad part is like something serious might happen.

Like there might be a parent who shows up there and like does something violent or does something absolutely crazy. So these liberal parents need to stop involving your kids in the culture war, man. And just keep your kids away from that. You know, like the, and I feel the same way about the parents who brought their kids to the blockade, the border and all that stuff. You know, like, I'm not trying to be a hypocrite on this. Like, keep your kids out of the culture war. Be parents. Leave, leave the culture warring to the adults.

It's true. You know, I would say for a lot of the parents who brought their kids to the blockades, Ottawa, et cetera, they're like, this is a moment in history for our kids to see. something very beautiful. I get it. I get it. But, uh, I, it's funny. I, I, I really struggle.

And I appreciate you, you know, that what I appreciate about a podcast. Yeah. Is the ability to hopefully talk through something that is, uh, a very difficult subject and the kids trans shows. They have the kid that like in it, you know, like I, see I'm, this is what I'm doing the pleb here, right? Yeah. We're figuring.

We're figuring this out right on there right now. I got to figure out a nickname for you, you know, because I can't figure out if it's the Pleb, Pleb. Just call me Pleb. Anyways. I love it. All right, Pleb. I'm a common man. It's like, I'm a commoner.

When they target kids with sexualization of, you know, it just bothers me. Of course. Do you consider the Boston Pizza drag queen to be sexualization, like putting on makeup and wearing? That, that's a good. That's a good question. Is that sexualization? Because we have to define sexualization. Maybe that's it.

I don't agree with these shows for the record, but I also don't agree that that is like disgusting and sexual or anything like that. I think it's just silly and stupid and the parents are responsible for bringing them there. I don't know if I'd consider that sexual. Okay. So here's the definition. We'll start there. Sexualization is to make something sexual and character equality or to become aware of sexuality,

especially in relation to men and women. Okay. So like putting on makeup? I mean, making yourself look pretty with these sexualization? If you go to Jordan Peterson, I mean, yeah, you can, you can probably extrapolate that pretty far. Sexualization in the workplace he's talked about, right? Okay. And then they totally ripped him on that one because he took it to basically the basic sense.

He wasn't saying don't do it. He's just saying it's implemented there. So I'm against these things, man. I think they're terrible. Like I had, and I understand where my followers are coming from, like hating it. Like I put out a poll asking them. like is this appropriate inappropriate or unsure and I think like thousands of votes and like not over 90% said inappropriate right so it's very clear that like people are not against

this even if there was no nudity or that drives the parents crazy you know and what I'm trying to figure out is like what drives the parents is it like the parents are rational fear that the kid might get become gay if they see things like that or get ideas you know like where is the fear truly coming from well let's let's do this because I I I was just saying to one of my brothers that when I have a difficult subject, I use myself. Because I think, think a lot like a lot of the common population. Through COVID, even though I started talking to doctors, I was going, well, maybe, you know, like maybe. And I drug my feet.

And so like when I look at different people who got vaccinated or think the government is, like to get us or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I can actually see that mindset. It's in the back of my brain. It's been conditioned, whatever it is, because I get a lot of it. So when it comes to taking kids to it, I'm like, I want to model to my kids what men and women in my brain are supposed to do. And now that means being a good human being. It means, I don't know, the rights, good, right, wrong, everything else.

And I think a trans show brings up a really difficult conversation, one that I don't know if you should have to have a. with your kid until, you know, they pisses me off is you know, like, parents are bragging that they brought their kids there, like, well, I know, because it's like, it's like a new,

one of these social, the new achievement unlocked. That's right. Yeah, yeah, another badge to put on. Yeah, yeah, people who are virtual signaling that they have trans kids inside their

bios on Twitter and like, clown world. So, like, to me, yeah, to me, it's like, uh,

these woke parents, this is a trophy to them, you know, it's an accomplished. It's a woke accomplishment to take their kids to a drag show. I'm like, man, there's better ways to teach your kids about like alternative lifestyles or homosexuality you know why don't you be like my parents to say hey hey pleb sometimes uh a boy likes a boy i almost dropped it almost dropped it i almost fucking dropped it sometimes a boy likes a boy a girl likes a girl you know my parents didn't make a big deal out of it you know they had a gay friend he came over once in a while like you know oh they have them a right earrings on the right ear little things you notice but like you didn't make it out to be like uh their they're

less than normal. They told me to treat them like they're normal and that like Because they are. I mean like exactly. Like what it was this is it. It's like it's all about the government splitting us up on sexuality. Gender's all this kind of stuff where they play the division game.

And trying to impose it early, early, early. I mean like, man. I didn't grow up going to drag shows and I'm like a pretty tolerant dude. And I'm also pretty concerned. Like I don't know. It's just it's just we're starting to see it everywhere, you know, not the drag show. I shouldn't say that. I see in culture, everybody wants to be, the big push is to be accepting of everything, right?

You say you're, you're, uh, I was gonna say a donkey. Anyways, you say you're a jackass. Anyways, that's a side. You say you're a cat or you rep, you know, or this is your pronoun. We're supposed to be accepting of everything. Right. Right. Yeah.

But that's like. man that's that's a really tough thing and then we're supposed to tell kids about that and then it's like things they're supposed to wrestle they're arrogant they're like this is the way these are these are pronouns you have to accept it or else or else it's our way or the highway you know they have no acceptance for people thinking differently than them for like the the party of tolerance and acceptance like they have no tolerance for people who don't believe what they believe and that's like the true hypocrisy in these people that's really annoying Yeah, it's, you know, I just, I think I said this to Eric Payne. Like, just when I think things are starting to get on the straight and narrow, you know, maybe we're going back to normal. There's just stuff that continually keeps popping up, and I just scratch my head about it. And I wonder, you know, have you ever asked your parents, like, what was it back then that you were, like, really worried for your kids to have to wrestle with? Like, I'm assuming. I wonder.

I wonder what the idea is. because I'm sure that it's there. Parents always worry about their children. I hope my kids can afford a house one day. Well, not anymore, but 20 years, 30 years ago, that would have been a realistic goal. But yeah, people are priced out of homes now. Kids are living in their parents' basement.

I don't know if you out where you're currently at, but whereabouts in relativity are you? I'm close to Montreal. So we bought a house, bought a house out. here. I left Ottawa last June and I was going to buy a house in the Ottawa area but like things are just so insanely expensive. I had to move to like the outskirts

I don't know where to find something. It's wild. The market, the housing market's wild man. People can't afford homes. And the thing is like people sell their homes for a ransom, right? Like, what's your plan? You have to buy another house or leave the country I guess, you know, because you're going to

buy another house is going to be just as inflated. Yeah, man, the liberals really screwed up this economy badly. really badly and it's like there's so much pain right now like people are feeling pain and like people are still like yeah freaking stand with just and trude i don't get it i don't get it like what is it going to take to wake you people up man absolute pain like being homeless on the streets like what is it going to take for you guys to wake up that these people are like literally destroyed our economy it's a good question feeling it what is it going to take i don't know you

you got to tell me because i mean oh west i think the you live in alberta right you live in like it's very different. Like I came from the Ottawa area. It's not at all like Alberta, man. These people wear masks outdoors still and like it's clown. It's full clown world in Ottawa. Probably downtown Toronto, same thing. You know, like what is it truly going to take for them to wake them up?

I feel bad because these are progressives, you know, and they're they want to care about others. They want to be nice people. We're caring. And the liberals go and like sell this agenda of, yeah, we're progressive. We're progressive. But underneath those people. progressive values is so much evil, you know, that these people don't see, but they only vote on

progressive stuff. That's all that matters to them. But what they're doing is voting on the destruction of their country, the destruction of their own savings account, their portfolio. They're basically voting to destroy themselves because they want to, you know, appear that they support things like gay rights and all these things that are less and trivial. They're not even really an issue in Canada. Like, I don't know, man. Like, do we have any oppressed minorities here in Canada? Like, is gay marriage ever going to become a legal? I don't think so. Are we going to get rid of abortions? No, that's like boogeymen's for these people. I don't think we're getting rid of the abortions. I don't think our abortion laws are ever going to change. They think we're

going to get rid of abortions. They think we're going to get rid of gay marriage. Like, that's ingrained into their heads and they vote based on that. And it's sad. It is, you brought up a lot there. I'm curious. You know, Oat West, a lot of people talk about Ottawa as an evil place. like they're not wrong but how so like do you mean like evil as in there's just a lot of corruption there do you mean evil as in like um like there's more i don't know the wokeness the institutions people in ottawa are making decisions for people out west and i think that pisses you guys off more than anything um the more i see it man you guys have a a case for for you know independence if they don't want to like start pumping oil man they they

better separate Alberta man I went through the Quebec referendum in 1995 you know I was a little kid I remember coming home and it was pretty close you know um I think Alberta has a much better case than Quebec did in 1995 to to um to separate right now and uh wouldn't wouldn't bother me seeing them do it I would probably move there if that happened to be honest you'd move to Alberta you'd move to Alberta if we separated you wouldn't move right now with Danielle Smith at the I love Daniel Smith. I mean, I'm close.

I'm close to Colorado, but at the same time, it's like, fuck, I want to be home. I want to be close to Ottawa.

I want to be close to Montreal. I want to be like where the action is. I don't think like, someone like the Pleb does much better in clown world places than he does in like base Republican, you know,

conservative type places. I thrive under insanity and I need to be close to the insanity and that's Ottawa. What's some of the insanity going on in Ottawa right now that you're keeping tabs on? Um, what's going on in Ottawa right now that I'm keeping tabs on? It's winter, so Parliament's over.

I was at the Emergency Act a couple of days. I don't know if you saw my videos with my Purple Herd Queen, went out there, you know, just talk to the people. I like being around freedom people. It brings back good memories from January and February. There's a mojo with that group of people.

There's some real hardcore. Like the people who are still going to the Emergencies Act inquiries for you. Those are the most hardcore of the hardcore. I find it fascinating, you know, and there's the hard cores of the hard cores of the other side, like Dana, you know, DNA, you know, DNA, you know, counter-protesting, calling them terrorists, you know, these are the hard cores of the hard cores and the far left, the far right, you know, this is where the real entertaining is. There's no entertainment in the middle. Those are boring. You got to go, you got to go to the polar opposite ends to get good entertainment and good. So what you're saying is I should have brought, I should have brought, what's this pick from Twitter on that you ran the counterpool, or while you retweeted as.

poll and the conservatives took off. Kobe. Okay. So Kobe comes out yesterday with a poll. This is still going on. We still have four hours left in the poll, but like I see his frigging poll, right? Like Kobe is a lives in his liberal ecochembourg. He has a bunch of NPC, Ukraine's masks, you know, the, the total, you know, the people I hate, I don't hate, I don't hate, hates a strong word.

But the people who are like, you know, clown world's, clown world followers. They got Trudeau up to 80% with 4,000 votes. 4,000 votes, Trudeau has 80% of the vote over who you would rather have a beer with, Pierre or Trudeau. It has nothing to do with these political candidates. I do not care. I just, I wanted to own the, I wanted to own the libs. You know, they, they wanted to, Kobe put that poll out to make Pierre look stupid, to make Trudeau look good.

I derailed it. We got this, we actually flipped the poll now. Now we're up to like 15,000 votes. The poll went viral. There's big accounts retweeting it. Now, I think it's at 45% Trudeau now. So we took him from 80 to 45%. As it sits right now, 56.9% for Pierre.

And that's almost 17,000 votes. It's funny, man, because I'm like, hey, Theo Flurry, can you retweet this? And he's like, oh, man, I hate both these people. You know, I get it, but it has nothing to do. It's just to own Kobe. You know, we've got to make Kobe look stupid with this poll, but it's hilarious, man. These are things I like doing.

There's a there's um I always talk about this with uh you know what I mentioned some of the names but I mean uh the world in Twitter is an interesting world because you get some you get some very interesting people uh interacting on there and it's it's fun to watch there there are some really brilliant institution because I don't think Twitter represents the rest of the country whatsoever whatsoever at all no no no no no I think it's like the most insane people in society go on to Twitter and just start fighting and bickering. and then the loudest ones. You think that's the way Canadians are. You want to know what, Sean, I'm going to give you like a good example of this of Twitter not being real life. I'm sure you followed the Ottawa election with Catherine McKinney. I could have sworn, I could have sworn that Ottawa, it was going to be a McKinney landslide according to Twitter, right?

Nope. Dosa reality, Sutcliffe 1. If you had read Twitter, you would have never guessed that. You would have said McKinney's got this. It's the biggest lock of your lifetime. And, yeah, sometimes you get like a sober reality checks. I think a lot of us, I think a lot of us thought she was going to win. Like I followed relatively that run.

And then she didn't win. You're like, oh, my God, what happened there? So I think even if you weren't read Twitter, if you were on the other side, you thought she was going to win. Like, I just assumed she was winning. You know, like, but Twitter is, as much as it might be an insane asylum, I still think you find these characters that are just unreal to talk to. Right? Like I've had some just absolutely... It's an asylum, but it's also the best thought leaders as well. Thank you. Best thought leaders.

The best thought leaders are on Twitter as well. Twitter, and the reason I love Twitter, and I tell this to people, is because, man, you got politicians on there. You got the journalists. You got everyone's on Twitter, right? So if you want to go tell someone off, you could do it on Twitter. Like, if there's a journalist that pissed you off, a politician, you can literally go interact with these people on Twitter. You can't do that shit on Facebook.

You can't do that stuff on the other Instagrams or stuff. Well, you kind of can, but it's not set up to do that, right? Like, you can go and bash them on Facebook, but it's not really set up for, like, Twitter. It's specifically so you can call people out. You can interact. You can say thoughts. You can whatever else and go back and forth. Yeah.

I love Twitter, man. Twitter's wild. Twitter is absolutely wild because I get to combat the propagandists like Rachel Gilmore and my other friends here on Twitter who I put some regular ratios on. you know that's what that's the me i'm the pleb you know i'm the man of the people i'm representing the plebs the plebeians you know all the little people i represent them you know i'm the voice of the people that's that's what i'm doing all the people that they hate who propagandize against them i will fight on your behalf and i will try to embarrass them my best i can on social media

to give you a little enjoyment do you think anyone who isn't on twitter knows who rachel gilmore is probably not man that's a great that's a great question and uh the answer is probably no and people who are not on Twitter don't know who I am either. Well, that's fair. Actually, that's really fair. That's, you know, I come back to, I got a lot of, I certainly got lots of people who follow me on Twitter that listen to the show, I mean. But I would say vast majority, well, not vast majority.

I shouldn't say that either. I would say a huge chunk, which is a vast majority, of people who listen to me, I'm not sure they're on social media at all. Like, really? Interesting. What's the age demographic of your audience? Um, it's somewhere between late 20s to, uh, about 55, I would say is the, is the, is the, is the, is the majority of it. But I have a ton of and I, I, I said this once and I ate my words when I said, oh, you're old at 58, man, did I fucking hear about that?

So you're not old at 58. You are, you are a prime, prime person in the top peak of their life and you're kicking ass and taking names. Hell yeah. It's interesting. That is the group of people that tune in. And like, I'll put it to you this way. I don't have a great social media following on any of the platforms. And I consider great like, I don't know, 20,000, 50,000, 100,000, whatever it is. I don't, but I don't really attack it that way.

And yet somewhere along the way, I hit a million downloads on the podcast, and I laugh about it a little bit because I'm like, it's super cool. But literally it's from people sharing it. via phone to phone to whatever because I'm like I don't I don't really try in I'm trying more but like it was a complete underground thing where people if they like what you're doing they shared it with their friends and family and they kept doing that and doing that now you got people all over the country listening which is really interesting followers don't matter on social media I'll give you a it's all about engagement that's what it comes down to and so like someone like me as I was growing my engagement was out of this world because I know how to

push the right buttons. I know what to put out. I know what people like to talk about. It's all about engagement. You'll see accounts with like 100,000 followers and they'll get 20 likes on a tweet or something and it's a graveyard, you know, you got to put out engaging content, interesting content. You got to keep it fresh. You got to keep it fun. That's what I like. I like to mix the news with my audience. I like to troll lives. Well, then I guess that's why they like the podcast. Other influencers on the other side, you know, it's all types of things with the Fleb on Twitter, man. It's nothing but fun on Twitter. Man, I love Twitter. Well, that's, that's an interesting point because I bring up twos all the time,

because he does it extremely well, you know, like very interactive on Twitter, tons of engagement, that type of thing. It's funny. The way I engage with my audience is I leave my phone number on every episode, which, I mean, is dangerous to say in the airwaves. I'm waiting for that crazy person, but they come from time to time. But I love talking the audience. I just don't love doing it via social media all the time. They want to get a hold of me? They can get a hold of me. They literally call your phone?

Because I remember I listened to a couple episodes before I came on here just to get an overall vibe of your show. And I remember, yeah, you put in your phone number out there at the end. I thought that was like for sponsors and stuff like that. But no, it's for fan mail. That's wild. Well, I think to me, if I want to get a feel for, you know, well, I'll take you case and point. people are either going to text or they're not. And if they're not, I take it as a sign of,

maybe it wasn't that good. Because when you hit, people will text you. Let's say, man, that was good. You need to have them back. Or that guy is a fucking idiot. Please ask him about this next time. Because usually it's an idiot, but they want them back on so that you push him a little harder.

And I love that interaction. I can't find that anywhere else. And certainly, I guess if I stayed on Twitter or Instagram or something all day long, I could find that. I just, I like being disneyed. I get the feedback on Twitter from the comments section. So I'll put out a video and I'll read the comments, the quote tweets, like the engagement of my video will probably also give me a general idea of what if people enjoy the video or not.

So like take example, like the child drag show video I did is like a low producing like count on that video and retweets compared to my regular videos. But, you know, that's probably because I did not trash, you know, the drag queens in there. I was like a little less than popular of opinion than my, the rest of my audience, you know? So there's ways to see how you did, you know, through engagement and comments, all that stuff. And reading the comments, too. I love reading the comments.

Something better than going viral and just reading love comments from, you know, like the video, did you see the video I put out on Rachel Gilmore's crying video, like the debunking of her crying video? Yes. Go read the comment. There's no better dopamine supply than reading, than putting out a video like that and just the,

the, the, over 99.9% love. I reached out to Rachel Gilmore. I would love to have her on. You should. I would love to have her on spaces. I, you know, I could keep it civil. Well, to me, I just want to hear her what she has to say.

I just do. You know, I had on Jeremy McKenzie, you know, and I've had him on multiple times. And, you know, obviously he was in an absolute fight before he went to jail for, you know, what was it, 50-some days, I think. Yeah. But him and Rachel Gilmer just going back. and forth. I'm like, all right, let's just get you two on the same show and let's talk. Like, you know, it's pretty simple to me, you know, but maybe not.

And she never responded, obviously. I mean, that would be an uncomfortable situation. It would have been great airtime though. Can you imagine? Jeremy got zapped off Twitter. Um, he's been trying to reopen accounts from what I'm seeing his girlfriend's like retweeting. He keeps trying to open accounts and they keep zapping. They might have them like IP locked and they know what his internet provider IP address is. So he's like instaband. But I try to keep it within the rules, right? Like, I don't like pushing the buttons too, too far.

I like playing within the rules. I don't like, I never incite violence. I never insult people personally. I keep things within the rules, because I know if I keep things within the rules, and I keep going, I keep ratioing people. I'm winning. As long as I'm not getting banned, I'm winning.

So that's why I try to keep it within the community guidelines, because nothing will drive them crazier than them not being able to ban me and just keep driving them nuts. Are you, are you, are you full time? Are you working a job? What do you do? I'm a truck driver right now. Okay. Yeah, I'm a truck driver. I'm off right now for a little bit for like a couple weeks and I'll be definitely going back to work probably after Christmas as soon as. But I'm like on like a two, three week, a little break. Oh, okay. I got you. Yeah, I've done blue collar jobs. I'm like a blue collar dude. Before I moved here, I was a garbage man in Ottawa for a couple of like three years. It's like my favorite job I've ever had. Really? Oh man, the best job I've ever had by a mile. And it sucks, like having a hard time finding like a garbage man job like too close to like where we moved in the boonies. But what was it about being the garbage man that you enjoyed? You know, I feel like.

Man, it's, it's waking up in the morning. It's beating your body. It's like, so I was a driver. And the place I worked at in Ottawa is driver, driver, so you go out with two drivers on the truck. You do a half an hour, an hour each behind the truck. And then you go drive the truck. And then the other driver goes in the back and load. it up. I lost weight. I stayed active and it's just great because I get to listen to podcasts all day and

stay in shape and feel like I'm actually contributing to society and and helping out my fellow neighbor by doing a job like that and I feel like a scummy. It's it. It's, you know, honking the horn at kids as you're driving by like, there's nothing better than that, man. I loved it. And I love talking shit with the blue collar jacks in the yard in the morning, you know, kind of getting their their sense of things politically and all that. And I'll tell you one thing, man, not black, white, you know, because I was a garbage man. So I work with minorities too, right?

Like I work with a lot of minorities, you know, and they don't like Trudeau either, man. There's a lot of anti-trudeau, anti-carbon tax. Like these people are not very, they don't, none of these people in the yard use pronouns. Like there's nobody woke where I work. Nobody woke. And it's amazing because like, I wonder where this woke, this wokeness has to coming from like the laptop class because from what I'm seeing like from working blue collar

jobs man is like those are not trudeau supporters at all at all you know one of the underappreciated jobs in any city country has to be the garbage man yeah I mean look I have my CDL I have my full class one like I could drive big rigs on the highway I have all my permits but I chose to be a garbage man because I love it I love it is it's something I enjoy doing That's, that's, you know, I had, I've had a, uh, a few different guys on talking about how as a country we need to basically change the viewpoint on blue collar jobs. Make them cool again. Because without blue collar jobs, your society doesn't function. We're talking. Of course. We're talking everything from the plumber to the garbage band to, you know, you get the point. Truck driver in general. Construction guy, yeah, everything. Yeah. And when I hear you say things like that, I think that's pretty cool because, you know,

a garbage man is just something that would never have crossed my mind. But, I mean, I don't mean I don't appreciate what they do. I just never even would have thought of it. You know, we, and yet I stare at plumbers all the time. I'm like, man, if there's an occupation you want to get into where you always have work, it's dealing with people's plumbing because when that goes... Well, garbage too, right? Like, think about garbage too.

Yeah, absolutely. The supply never stops. It's a job like, you know, as I was younger, I felt bad for people working on a garbage truck like oh my god man look at his life must be terrible right now he's working on a garbage truck but you won't work in this business and you find out that people really like their job like they either love it or they hate it and quit you know the people that stay love it and their lifers you know so it's interesting then uh i learned a lot from being a blue collar guy and that's kind of why i call myself the pleb i am a pleb i'm just like the rest of you guys you know working nine to five trying to make a paycheck pay my bills you know

that's where I come from and that's kind of the heart of the character. Yeah, the PLEB. I'm one of you and I represent you. I got to know, I guess I don't know, well, which is a good question, I guess. But let's say you're not on Twitter. Is there any other ways they can follow all your work? I have a YouTube channel. I barely upload my videos there.

I said, okay, Facebook like nuked my account that I had since like... Facebook has nuked a lot of accounts. Facebook, 2007 I had an account like with old pictures. and all that. And they, they nuke me for no reason. You know, they didn't even send me like a you broke this community guideline. They just like nuked my account. And I think what it truly was was because I kept like saying, I kept being like a Donald Trump top fan.

You know, you get that top fan badge beside your name there if you're like a top commenter. So I was like a Donald Trump top fan. And I was just always, you know, hell yeah, Trump, go Trump, go Trump. You know, I was like a super Trump fan. And I think they literally just zap my account for that reason. So never again, man. And then Elon, there was rumors of Elon. Twitter that I'm like okay all right I'm all in let's do Twitter man and I noticed I never

really got banned that often on Twitter and I said I'm going to commit to this and you know what Elon also said he wants to make Twitter a couple of months after I had made that decision he's come out oh we're going to make Twitter a content creator's paradise you know we're going to monetize content and I'm like okay so my investment in Twitter a few months prior saying I'm going all in is going to pay off so this is why I'm trying to put out videos I'd love to be able to do Twitter and commentary full time, you know, but we're not at that point yet, but hopefully in the future. Well, here's what I'll tell you on that then. Um, and this is why, I don't know, maybe I'm a good judge of character. Maybe not, folks. Who knows? Who knows? But I, I reach out because I'm like,

I see where you're going and I'm like, oh, I like that. Like, to me, I watch what you do. And it's something very unique to Canada. Uh, certainly there's others that do similar things to you, but they're mostly south of the border. If memory serves me correct. I don't know of another, the PLEB sitting out there in Canada. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But my journey was, is I started in 2019, February 2019. And it took until this year and I got to go full time in April. And it has been, I didn't realize you could have this much fun.

I got like, I pumped my audiences tires way too much, but I got like a fantastic audience. I got fantastic businesses who support what I'm doing. And then you got a world like Canada that just will not stop doing things that you have to talk about. So, you know, you talk about keeping it interesting and keeping it light and then serious and all over the place. Canada is literally doing that on a daily basis. Like, I mean, some of the stuff going on in this country is not happening everywhere in the world. It is, it is, it is clown world headquarters for sure. Yeah.

So I guess where I'm going is, is like, you keep doing what you're doing and you stay consistent with it. I don't know. The sky's the limit. I don't plan to go anywhere. You know, I started, I started, I don't know you were following me back in the day, but I started my account as a satire account. Like I had like 500 followers. I started as a satire.

I was like a super woke. I had like a Ukraine flag in my name. I had a 4x jabbed. I have my pronouns. You know, I started as a satire account. I remember seeing like two people that inspired me, to be honest, was like one was Alex Stuner. when he would go to

school board meetings, man. That inspired me. I saw him like completely mocked these people. I'm like, holy shit, this is amazing. This is something I could totally do. And it's something I've already done in the past,

just maybe not at that level. So that inspired me. And then I've seen COVID parent, petrified COVID parent. Do you follow that Twitter account? So I follow him and I'm watching like the satire. I'm like, holy shit,

it's brilliant. I could do this too. So I started doing satire. I launched my account from like 500 followers, like 7, thousand relatively quickly maybe like a month a month and a half just doing satire going in the comments section typing the stupidest shit i could possibly come up with the most woke comment and watching myself get ratioed you know just get there and then people you know sometimes i get

big retweets from like a viva fry or a jack posebic they'll retweet my dumbness and then all of their millions of followers are just coming in and attack me and call me the biggest dumbass and i'm just sitting they're laughing. I'm like, holy shit, man. They really think I'm this stupid. This is great. I love it. Please keep roasting me. But eventually what happened with that account with the Pleb Satire Edition was

people started, I started getting famous a little more famous. People started recognizing my name and my gimmick didn't work as hard anymore. So less people were taking the bait. So it's a lot less fun doing satire. I was doing satire to literally get roasted and then more and more people knew who I was.

So instead of actually like replying to me and putting a hateful comment in. They'd start liking my comments, you know, so I'm no longer getting ratioed. I'm getting loved and it became less fun to me when that started happening. That's, you know, that's a, that really,

I'll explain where the transition was. Like, around that time, Rachel Gilmore is becoming more and more popular. I thought she heard journalism was a, you know, not fair, a joke.

I said, okay, I'm going to transition to a journalist. I'm going to show, my followers what a joke journalism is and the fact that anyone could do it because these people are speaking about journalism like you need to go to school you have to be some elite to do it so the whole point of this pleb journalist reporter character is literally to mock them and um we're not stopping until we pass rachel gilmore on twitter and followers we're about halfway to her now we're outgrowing her at a faster pace but i will pass rachel gilmore maybe i'll get to another gimmick but i'm not stopping until i pass her because she called me a cosplay journalist and i'm going to get her back You said something that I find fascinating because most people want to be loved. They want a thousand likes or whatever the hell it is. It feels good or you get the point.

I personally am not, I understand if I was more divisive or at least put my thoughts down on Twitter, I'd probably grow faster, right? just let the content do it's work I'm you know I I'm working on learning and becoming better and everything else I don't need to at times I don't want to do that on social media I want to do it this way I this is what I love doing sure and and so by releasing episodes you know four times a week I mean shit people get a good feel for who I am and if they really want to attack me they got to listen and then and then come talk to me and I'm good with it like I'm I'm really good I mean shit at this point there's over 400 plus episodes where people can get it

my thoughts. But you said I was beginning to get more loved and I needed to change. But I'm doing satire. I'm pretending to be a woke guy. I'm purposely trying to sound stupid. I'm purposely trying to sound ignorant. So when people shit on me and they roast me, that's the result I want. That's winning. That's what I'm going for. I'm not going for saying, oh, I love Ukraine and vaccines and all eating bugs and all types of nonsense like that. And for people to say, you know what? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You know, I want people to say you're an idiot. What an absolute dumbass. I'm trying to shine light on the most extreme side of the left. So that's, that's where the satire started. I had a lot of fun doing satire, but I became more popular. People knew who I was. And then

but is that something from like, is that something that was a learn skill or have you always enjoyed that? I've always been a good troll. I've always been like a pretty good troll. I've always been good at pushing buttons. I've always been a very sarcastic person. Where, but, uh, do you remember when you first started on the internet doing that trolling? Like where, where, where you first started and you're like, this is what I started doing. And I was, Facebook, Facebook groups. I would go in and, uh, um, I started, uh, started on the Joe Rogan podcast group about 2015. Um, I would go on Tinder and then I would, oh man, I don't even know if I could say this story.

It's so ridiculous. I would go on Tinder. I would post DMs that I would receive and I would. take people like on adventures like giving them updates and stuff do threads give them updates on like what's going on and um i kind of built the following off that just ridiculous like online dating stories and all that stuff uh man should i even say the second story so in the jo rogan in the jo rogan podcast group um i met a chick she came over she's like i told her i was in the group uh she's like i'll do anything uh let's

let's let's stream a a sex show from your your dad's basement so we literally i wasn't doing sex or actually we were on paris you remember what periscope was on twitter yeah so we we had like 20,000 people watching which was like her like showing her boobs and all types of craziness um in the basement and uh yeah i kind of built the following because they literally banned me from that group for like uh my escapades and then uh the people from that jo rogan group kind of followed me after that. There was like a mass exodus of a following based on what I was doing that group. And that's when I started my own Facebook group that grew really, you know, almost tens and

tens and tens of thousands of people. We post, you know, videos of ourselves. We make content. We troll around. We make Photoshop. So that's kind of like really where I cut my cloth was during the, during the Facebook group days. and yeah man we I definitely had some wild stories man

I don't know how many of them are appropriate but yeah man I'm I've always had it in me to uh to be an entertainer to entertain people I love entertaining people um I was a class clown a little bit in high school because I was like a fat kid so I had to you know figure out because I would get beat up you know like first couple weeks in like seventh grade you know like I'd get like thrown in the

like bigger kids would like toss me in the snowbank as we're walking home from the bus and you know I'd get bullied a little bit it. So then I had to learn right away, you know, like, okay, well, I'm probably going to continue to get them bullied, or I could be smart about this, and I could get them to like me. And it all started with that as like humor, you know, oh shit, okay, so if I could turn myself a bit into a clown, make people laugh, then the bullying stopped. Then I became, you know, the class clown and everything kind of worked out from there. That's kind of where it started. The Pleb class clown. Would you have guessed? Well, I don't know. I, I, um,

I just, I, I, I've never had that bone in my body, so to speak, I guess, right? Of like, uh, trolling. I just, I get, I don't think I get anything. If I would have been a good looking jock, I probably would have went down that path. You know, if I was like a good looking athletic, confident dude and high school, I probably would have went down a different. I'll take that compliment. I feel like that's a compliment.

Yeah. So like if, if you go down that path, that's fine. It probably would have done, but I had to do something different, you know, I had to, put on my feet and adapt and uh you know one of the cool things i was uh you know you know Jeremy McKenzie's uh rape comment really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way including myself we can talk about it let's go about it i've i that's one thing with jeremy man uh i think he's a funny dude man but that rape comment was like it was over the one you have you have like rachel gilmore watching you like a hawk you know watching your telegram channel watching your

streams. Then you just get drunk and start talking about raping politicians wives as a joke. I get it's a joke and it's like edge lord humor, you know, but man, it's like, man, Jeremy, you're really smart. Like I consider you someone who's like high IQ, right? When you talk, you're very articulate and intelligent. And to me, what disappointed me the most in that whole thing was not as much as a joke. It's just like the slip up. Like you know that there's people that want to bury you and you're doing things like that. It's like, man, you're smarter than this. That's really what bothered me in that whole situation.

Obviously, the rape joke was inappropriate, but it's like, come on, dude, you're smarter than this. If he's really smart, which I think we both agree on. Yeah, he is smart. Every time I've had a conversation with him, he has always impressed me. Yeah. Is it possible he was trolling because he knew that they were watching that hard and he knew that would set them off?

Possible. Possible. But did he not realize the repercussion of using the word? rape. It's like, not the most brilliant choice of words. I don't know.

I'm still disappointed a little bit in Jeremy for that. Just the, it's a mishap. Like, man, you're a smart dude. You're a good troll. You know,

you know how to push buttons. But man, you just like, fuck, man, you have warrants for your rest. You have the media watching you.

They're watching everything you do and you just go out and say things like that. Kind of dumb. Kind of dumb. It's disappointing. It's, I've had a lot of controversy

on the podcast. Well, I mean, for some people, it's been controversy on the podcast. Why for having him as a guest? Actually, I had him on the podcast. The week, the warrant went out, and it was like five days before he said the rape comment. And it is one of like three episodes where I got texts saying you should probably take that down. I'm like, well, go listen to it. And then tell me what you think afterwards, right?

The name shouldn't trigger that much, you know, I think of... Jeremy's got his own place in Canadian media, I'm going to call it, right? He is Alex Jones. Like, he is that kind of style. He pushes buttons. He's very articulate. He's very smart. And he steps across the line over and over and over again.

Just kind of seeing what everybody thinks about the line. The problem was, is he stepped over my line with the word rape. Because, I mean, there are a few things that are... or several things that really bother me. And that was one of them. And I hope I get him back on, because I would love to talk to him about it. But hey, man, he's not.

Is he allowed to do podcast appearances now and all that? Why don't you get him on? To the listener, I've reached out, me and him have chatted, and he just said he had to get a couple things sort it out. So I assume in January, or maybe, hopefully, maybe over the Christmas season, maybe he will make an appearance.

Look, man, I like pushing people's buttons. I like pushing politicians' buttons, journalists, stuff like this. I will never say, make a joke saying, I want to rape your wife or anything like that. To me, that's like, I don't know, man. You're asking for, it's not, it's not funny. First of all, it's like, you're a lot

smarter than that. So using, resorting to shock humor to me is a, is a, it's lazy, intellectually lazy type of humor. And when you are a highly intelligent person, it offends me that you would be intellectually or comedically lazy like that. So,

yeah. That's where I stand with that whole issue, man. It's just like, man, you knew what people were watching you. You're very intelligent. I respect your intelligence. And you fucked up, man. You probably shouldn't be drinking on streams either, man. You know, like people are watching you.

You're drinking on stream. Not the best idea, man. I don't do that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're beating a dead horse at this point. Yeah, we're just beating a dead horse on this. I wonder what's going to happen with him going forward.

Like, what's next for Mr. McKenzie? I don't know. That's a good question. Honestly, that is a really good question because I'm curious about it as well. I think a lot of people are curious about it. You know, the day I left for the convoy, I interviewed him for the first time. And he fascinated me. And he fascinated a ton of people across country, no different than probably you're doing right now, no different than probably I'm doing.

He's a lot more intelligent than I am. He's a lot more intelligent than a lot of people. He has a sharp tack. And he's got a great perspective. of being military and everything else. Who's a guy or girl that you're staring at that you don't think a lot of Canadians know about? Because I got a list growing in my head

that I think have entered the show space that I've had on the podcast that I think are doing really interesting things and trying to be independent media or content creators trying to show light, that type of thing. Who's somebody the PLEB follows that you don't think a lot of people know about? Like what do you mean?

Like a lot of people, like a lot of people on Twitter or like normies in the real world? I'm saying I'm saying not the normies. I'm saying, I'm saying, um, there's so many accounts on Twitter that are like undiscovered or like on their way up, you know,

I guess I'm, there's a lot of people that are anonymous as well, right? Yeah, I would say like look at someone like golden pup, you know, like who's done, who's been a hero of the pandemic who's completely anonymous. There's a lot of these people that are remained to stay anonymous. so people will never know them.

They'll just know their personas. Well, then I'll phrase it a different way. Who's somebody you think that I should be sitting down with to showcase what they're doing that would come on? COVID parent. But the thing is, him too, he's anonymous. So a lot of these people are just, they're not, they have jobs to protect. You know, there's intelligent people with good jobs and like, you know, they have to protect their identity. You know, fighting the culture war is probably not advantageous to them.

Someone like me who's like a truck driver, blue collar. guy who gives a shit. I could go, I could go find a job, you know, I have a CDL, I can walk up into any yard, I have zero demerit points, I have a clean driving record, I'm employable anywhere, but some of these other people are like in specialized fields and all this, like there's more for them on the line to speak out. So I completely understand why some of them want to stay anonymous. Yeah, that's fair. Some of those anon accounts are quite, quite, quite fascinating. And a face reveal will be awesome. But yeah, you probably never see them. reveal himself they can find a way to talk on the podcast probably out showing their face

um i would say covid parent i've done a lot of spaces with him very very well-spoken dude very very funny um who else in the annons uh you should bring on coby man why don't you bring on cobi's a goofball like just bring him on he's uh he's actually a troll man like he's not really like a trudo lover or anything like that he's just a guy who likes kicking the hornets nest and watching people fight in the comments. You know, there are a lot of people like that. Just like watch the world burn, you know. Well, it's an interesting talent because it's good at it.

Well, there's a, there's several of you that are very good at it, right? Uh, that love kicking the hornets nest and love the, the chaos, as you would say, that ensues. Yeah. Like when I was retweeting all those videos from Boston pizza, all the comments, all the, all the quote tweets, yeah, that was me kicking the hornets nest a little bit. I'm not going to lie. trying to get the conversation moving,

trying to get the people going crazy a little bit. Yeah, it makes for a better discussion. And then I kind of bring it all back with like the video I put out, trying to bring everyone back to earth and put some perspective on the whole issue, you know? You think social media is a plus for society

or a negative? Shit. Okay. That's a loaded question. Probably both. But I think, that social media has done more good than bad especially like people able to like organize their communities organized protests stuff like this organize themselves it's a it's a tool that

empowers us it's also a tool that contributes to a lot of mental health problems so i mean so i'd love to see the stats of suicides and depression and stuff due to social media that's not good um i think there's no way of getting rid of it now this is how we're going to live going forward and I don't want the government regulating it. It's an interesting debate because, like, the government wants to get their hands on the social media algorithms, the YouTube algorithms. They want to control what you see when you're scrolling down that timeline.

You know, the question is, do we want the government controlling that, or do we want publicly traded companies, you know, being in control, like Google and Facebook, meta, all these people, like, who do we want to have that control? I personally believe that it was probably better in the hands of these publicly traded companies because if they start fucking up, their share price goes down. You know, there's negative consequences to them overstepping. With the government, there's no negative consequence for them.

You know, they're just the mafia. Just do whatever they want. So anytime the government's controlling situations like that over public, I'll always take a business over government for sure. Yeah. Yeah, well, I don't, I don't trust the government as far as I can throw them. That's literally I can't throw them. They're everywhere.

So, like, no, I do not want them. I don't, I think it's like either way you go, it's not a great situation, right? Like, I mean, I got my entire YouTube, I mean, I don't, I'll bring it up to you because, I mean, the audience doesn't need to hear it anymore. But I interviewed Chris Barber, right? Leader, one of the leaders of Western Commonwealth. Yeah, I met him. met uh interviewed him about a week before they left we talked about like zero like i don't you know it was such an early stage interview before you know anything really happened and youtube removed me

the entire channel everything just like wow and i was like one thing that i that i i think you're right on when it becomes public traded companies that type of thing is when that starts happening you're going to have alternatives start to pop up it's just if they can create something as good as YouTube, right? We're seeing it with rumble and bit shoot and there's a whole bunch of them, right? And there's a lot of- Parallel economy they're calling it, right?

That's right. And so that's what's great about it. I agree. You have a government-controlled thing and you get what you have with, well, I mean, media right now in Canada. And like, it's, they don't even have to put out good journalism because, I mean, they're not fine.

I don't want to say act like they're fine, but like they're, the government's protecting them. and they're they need to get moving. Otherwise, we're not going to have any, you know, we're going to, somebody's going to step in at some point, I think, right, I think at some point there's going to be a company that rises up in Canada. They're going to be a whatever privately owned media company. And, and they're going to be doing the journalism that everybody wants.

The world's going to heal when we stop funding the damn media, man. That's truly where the rotten core of this problem is in our society is that, you know, are uh i know i'm going to take it off topic a little bit here but like um man the government funding the media is the biggest issue this is what they do in china north korea these other countries uh i don't see how the liberals are okay with this you know like let these businesses fail if they fail they fail um you are literally using these media people as um your agenda pushers um you are literally making journalists lie on your behalf of to push the agenda.

And this is where I honestly get concerned. It's like, yeah, I do believe some of those threats that Rachel Gilmore and some of these journalists get are real for sure. But you're literally, you're literally gaslighting the Canadian people

on a daily basis on behalf of the government. Like the government pulling the strings above you is what's truly evil in this situation. You know, obviously you have a part in it, but I truly believe that people are giving those orders at the top are the true evil ones. Yeah.

I don't know where you want to go. with this but well yeah yeah what do you think about this whole journalism hate issue like rachel gilmore on the stage of carleton university you saw that video what do you think of that whole situation well what i struggle with with politicians is they don't for the most part they're guided by public opinion and so as much as i want to sit there and go like the public still wants them at this point maybe it's changed but at one point they wanted them to fund media at one point they wanted them to whatever you know I had uh Shane Getson comes to mind as he said politics politicians do what the public want and public opinion opinions formed by media

so when you talk about media being the problem absolutely yeah but media is feeding into public opinion and I go how do we change public opinion so that they don't want the liberals in or they don't want the CBC to be funded or they don't want you know because public opinions also completely corrupt as well because they go CTV like for example if you looked at the poll they ran um is it the masking or it was one of those polls that did not go the emergencies act right so they get like 18,000 votes on their website 78. percent said no no 20 22 percent said yes it was it was necessary yeah so then these scumbags go to polling companies like greasy nick nanos and they're like okay we need you to call

a thousand landlines here and and and keep calling until you get the answer you want and then they finally let's say they run like 50 100 polls and then they finally get one that's positive they manufacture consent so they go to c tv look okay we have a report we have a poll here it's it's science, right? Because it's the right amount of people were called, whatever they determine that is science. Complete joke. They go to CTV. Then CTV says, hey, two and three Canadians agree that the emergencies act was completely necessary. And then they roll with the story. So, you say it's formed by public opinion, but I think that there's, well, now the agenda setters are forming the public opinion. They're manufacturing concern. Well, the problem we have, you're right.

and I would say it's more complex now because the narrative they're doing whatever they can to stick to the narrative even if it isn't what the public I mean just look at Elon Musk right

so we have the Twitter files that drop in the like the last week week and a half and Rachel Gilmore is on on Twitter talking about like dogs in the Neurrelink tests you know that died she's talking about like people

sleeping at Twitter headquarters, but no, we just have like the largest document dump since Watergate and you're talking about like things that don't matter. So this is like the whole point of the agenda, right? The agenda for them is Elon Muskbat. You know, we cannot make him look good. Elon must bad. Whatever we got to do to put. What did you think at Elon at Chappelle, uh, getting booed? I mean, I saw only one clip. I saw the clip where Viva Fry posted and I did not hear booing, but I am hearing from other people on Twitter that there are like his alternative videos where there was a little bit of booing. So I watched several.

One was about five minutes long. It was pretty much the end of Chappelle's show. And it was pretty, it was a lot of booing. I'm not sitting here saying it was the entire thing, but it was enough to derail the end of the show for Chappelle, I think. Was it everybody booing? No. But Chappelle had to address it like three times.

And eventually just said, hey, thanks for coming out. And he's smoking it. You know, and to me, it derailed it. That's my eyes on it. Now, where was this show? Was this in San Francisco? Shit, that's a good question. I think it was in San Francisco.

You have a bunch of fired Twitter employees who are mad at Elon. Probably going to see that show. Can you imagine? I wonder if that would have happened in Texas. I wonder if that would have happened anywhere other than San Francisco or... Fair enough. You go... I was thinking, can you imagine?

Like, who would you want to see on stage right now? Dave Chappelle is the greatest comedian of all time. Yeah, he is the goal. Yeah. And then you stroll out Elon Musk. The only other guy I would be like, well, you might as just bring Joe Rogan out and have them do a round. Like, what a roundtable that I'd been. Yeah.

And they boo them so much that Elon doesn't even get to say anything else other than, you know, and you're like, this is like, if I had a ticket, I'd be fucking pissed. I'm like, let these two guys talk. Like Chappelle even has some wise cracks through the booing or just through the uproar, right? It's just wild how they went from Trump derangement to Elon derangement now. It's like they don't even care about Trump anymore. It's like Elon, Elon, Elon. It's like they put the brain chip. They took the brain ship out of the NPC.

Then they put the Elon chip in their head. And now it's, oh my God, I'm focused. We hate Elon. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. It's just like a, exactly, the snap of a finger, you know. So yeah, when they have the memes of like the WoJack and putting the brain chip inside their head,

like this is not a joke. That's like pretty accurate, actually, to what the reality is in that situation. They turn on a dime so quick. They can, they forget. they're not even worried about like the vaccines not even being tested for transmission. They don't even care about these things. They don't even give a shit. All they care about is a new thing that they have to fight against.

They don't care about the past. They don't care about critical thinking. It's Elon bad. This is the new thing. We're focused on it, you know? Ukraine. Eventually they'll forget about Ukraine. We're not too far away from them forgetting about Ukraine.

I feel like most people have forgotten about Ukraine. I could be wrong on that. And I don't mean that they've, they've, like, completely forgotten that it's going on. Just that there was a month where that was the push.

Yeah. Hard as you could go. And I feel like that's kind of dissipated. It's because they debunked it, man. Like, they're seeing like Zelensky's, like,

a lot of things got debunked. Like, you saw Zelensky's green screen room. You ever see that picture with the green screen and all that? It's like, um, there's so many weird things with that war.

And like, it seems like any, they're putting out funding, people are still pissed off. You go read the comments on Twitter. Anytime there's a funding round that comes out from Mr. Zalinski, Twitter definitely lets them know how much they hate that. And that's the hypocrisy about Pierre Pollyov.

I'll just, sorry to cut you off. This is really the hypocrisy. One of the things I don't like about, people are like, you're a Pierre Paulyev, shill, you're a CPC, shill. I hear this from the PPS, the far right PPC bros. I think I'm shilling for Pierre and all this. And there's a lot of things I don't

like about Pierre and Ukraine is one of man like if you're going to come out and talk about record food bank usage in this country as being a huge issue that people are relying on food banks then you're talking about your unavowed support for ukraine this is like where we kind of have issues man i'm like a canada first kind of guy you know uh can i canadians come first and uh international come second and that's how i'll always think and so that and people on the the left will call me like uh they'll call that racism because i remember like uh i was at like the dutch farmers protest okay and someone had like a Canada first sign, you know, like a protest sign.

And I remember like one of these ladies in a mask who was like a counterprose, like that sign is racist, racist language. It said Canada first on it. So like caring about your country is racist like that to these people. They're fucking everything. Frigan nuts, man. They're nuts. These people are frigging nuts.

Was this protest in Ottawa? Yeah, it was, uh, I've been, that's why I miss about, you know, Ottawa was always in the action. But yeah, it was, uh, uh, Early, it was in June. Yeah. The Dutch farmers protests, yeah. How was that?

That was awesome. That was awesome. It was freedom convoy people with Dutch flags and Canada flags combined. It was a good time. It's funny. People would associate caring about farmers with, you know, far right propaganda and stuff like that. But these dummies, you know, they don't even realize where the food and their grocery stores come from. Why is that?

They're so amazingly ignorant. But why is that? You know, like I've been having this discussion for a long time about rural, urban divide and different things like that. The laptop class. Yeah. Yeah, versus regular working class people, yeah? I don't know, man, Sean. I really think these universities are poisoning their head, man.

I truly am. Are you hitting your vape, Sean? When you put me at full screen, are you like a little vape pole or something? I'm literally battling a cold. You can kind of hear it from time, time. Oh, you've literally had to, I literally had to go cough and turn my mic off because I'm like, if all I do is cough every two minutes, people are going to be like, Sean, next time, could you, could you turn your mic off? Yes, yes, I can. I can do that.

So, sorry, what was, I derailed that, but what point was I going off of right there? The working, or the laptop class versus the working class on the divide. That's what you think. I hate them. I hate them because their lies, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm. anyone who, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're at home. They don't have to drive to work anymore. They get paid an amazing, they have paid the same salary to stay home, then going to the

office. Um, of course, they don't want that gravy train to go. And I feel like they were holding back society and like, let's go more lockdowns, mandates, vaccines, all this so that they can keep this gravy train rolling and being able to watch Netflix while they're working, you know, or, you know, for, you know, you know, work half as hard. You know, you're, you're not going to convince me

that people will stay home, work as hard as people who go to the office. There's no chance. I don't care what study you come up with. If you're at home, you're going to find ways to fuck around 100%.

Pardon my language. I don't know if this is a swearing show. Sorry. And it doesn't matter. This is, no, it's all good. That's an,

that's an interesting thought. It's the gravy train for them. It was a gravy train for them. And they got to stay home. They got to, you know, Of course, they don't want to give that up. They don't want to give that.

Who wants to sit in traffic 45 minutes, an hour each day, driving to work each way, you know? Spending an hour and a half of your day inside your car, driving to work. Who wants to do that? That's fair, but I mean, like, at the same time, you can still, can't you still think critically about, like, energy, uh, where food comes from?

You know, I'd had, I'd had a listener and I really got, what I need to do is I need to, like, take a picture of it so I can read it off. Because what he was talking about, he comes from or he's living in Toronto showed out to TJ and he was talking about adversity he thinks it's he's like there's people in the city think exactly like I do or the Pleb does or what you get the point yeah and he's like to me it becomes whether they've seen adversity or not and he was talking about you know like what is a what does somebody out in rural Canada do if their car breaks down or the heat goes out or whatever they have to

rely on themselves to figure the problem out like you don't have you know you got your neighbors you certainly got a community but you got to figure your problem He goes, you live in a city and you grab the, you know, the sea train or whatever train, you know, runs and everything is kind of provided for you. You want to go to grocery stores right there. You do this, you do that, you know. You get a foot of snow and they come along with plows and they plow you out and whatever else. And out on the, you know, the further you get away from the big centers, the less and less than less and less that's there. You got to rely more and more on yourself. And I was like, hmm, that's an interesting thought, actually. I'd always put it up to the closer you are to the farm and the more generations that move away from it, the more likely you are to forget. The universities are rotting their heads, Sean. It's really what it comes down to, man. It truly, truly, truly comes down. And you saw that on display like at the journalism's against online hate thing where they're doing land acknowledgments before they get on stage and apologizing for being white and all this. This is where it's all coming from.

It's literally frying their brains. They're teaching these kids and universities that, that words are violence, you know, like a word is like a real problem instead of, you know, having no food or growing or like they don't have any struggles in their lives. They have no struggle. They have the easiest life. That's the people in third world countries aren't, aren't worried about the things that these elites here are worried about. They're worried about feeding their family and survival. And people here have it so good. They truly have it so good that they, they get bored and they invent problems in their heads. This is where the culture was.

So, so yeah, it's a, it's a problem of where we're at in society. Yeah. Free time, you know, I interviewed a bunch of, you know, I did 49 archive interviews, I think it was, about people's lives, right? And they were anywhere between 65 and 90, let's say. Actually, one of them was 98. And you go back 100 years, you didn't have time to, certainly had time to talk politics and certainly had time to do a thing. But you were so worried about surviving out in this. country or part of the country at least.

Of course. You didn't have time to worry about pronouns or you know, and don't get me wrong was there's shit that went on back then. There certainly was. But most people had to worry about how they were going to provide a roof over the head, how they were going to get the day's meal,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was work. You were constantly working. I mean, I talked to black people and I say, you know, what are you worried about right now? Are you worried about racist? These people are not worried about racism, man. These people were worried about gas prices and like the cost of living and the cost of their groceries like normal people that's what the thing that pisses me

off about these woke people they make our world seem like this uh hate filled dark place and it's really not man like i'm from the blue collar world i was a garbage man work with a lot of black people minorities i speak to especially the working class minorities right and a lot of i'm one of them not a minority i'm you know i'm one of the working class i'm working class pleb you know i talk to them and that racism isn't even an issue and like it's all these like uh white collar you know elites that come up with these problems. Of course racism exists, of course. It's nowhere near as bad as it was, you know,

50 years ago, 60 years ago, obviously. We're heading in the right direction. And like these journalists and Rachel and Erica are coming out and pretending like racism is like the real epidemic of Canada. And it's such a problem. We need to regulate it and fix it. There is no friggin problem, man. These are problems that you guys are inventing in your own heads.

I do not get it. I truly don't. Yeah, I don't know. obviously maybe that's an unpopular opinion. Yeah, but I feel like things are pretty good, man. I talk to minorities. They don't tell me that, you know, they receive racism all the time. That's not, no, I don't feel like we live in a racist country here in Canada

and they want to portray it as some kind of racist country. And if they can't portray it, you know, with the truckers, they tried to portray them as racist too, you know, create a problem out of nothing. Yeah. There was black truckers. There was Arabs. There was Russians. There was like Eastern Block guys.

Indians. There was all kinds of like, every representation, you know, was there at the convoy. It's the first time I've ever seen what, if you want to talk about utopia, the humanity that was shown on a daily basis, well, that convoy was going on. Yeah.

As close as you'll ever get to utopia. Yeah. Because, once again, out West were taught to hate Quebec or not taught to. You just, you got a natural dislike, right? I hear it on Twitter, of course. And, man, the Quebec. guys were just as fun as anyone else

and everybody just showed up, had their flags and everything like, you know, you mentioned any culture you're from, any background in Canada showed up and it was it was cool. I saw a picture of a guy with an Alberta flag and a guy with a Quebec flag like taking pictures together. You know, selfies like, hey, Quebec and Alberta are getting along

like this is more important, you know? And those beautiful to see, man, it was the best the best three weeks ever in this country's history and how the evil, evil, evil machine tried to make it look like it was less than that. No kidding. That's where the fire lays inside me.

So until we take these people down, it's not over for the PLEB, man. I'll be fighting the establishment because... Well, here's one final question for the PLEB then before I let you go. And that is the Crude Master final question we do at the end of every show. Go ahead. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald for supporting this side. It's Heathswords. He said, if you're going to stand behind a cause, then stand behind it, absolutely.

What's one thing? the pleb stands behind. I stand behind freedom of speech and anti-censorship, you know, one thing, right? I guess freedom of speech, yeah. Freedom of speech? Yeah, freedom of speech.

There's nothing wrong with that. An honest media. I'd love to live in that world. But yeah, freedom of speech, I guess, would be my number one. I got asked today by a lady out east, who's going to be coming on the podcast, why do I do what I do? And I was like, oh, that's an interesting question.

And I'm like, because the day that asking questions and being curious about, you know, finding some answers and just seeing what's going on is treated like taboo, we're in a bad place. And I feel like for at least, wow, it just continues to be an interesting world where we have to make sure that doesn't go the way of the dodo bird asking questions and freedom of speech and being able to have people on and say what they want. In the pandemic, like people were, You could not question the science, but isn't like science all about questions. Questioning. Questioning is science, right?

That is literally the definition. So yeah, I'm just here to combat clown world, Sean, man. Anything I could do, my influence I used to combat these clowns. I will do it and I will represent the people, the plebs. Well, man, appreciate you hopping on and give me some time this more. It's been cool to actually put a face, well, not a face to you, but to actually meet face to face to face and have a conversation of it. And I think, you know, in the background in my head, because I assume Tuesday

mashup, we're going to have to get you on one of those because you'll have a lot of fun with the headlines. And I feel like you'll be perfect for it in 2020. Let's go ahead and do an episode. So what? You're just going to throw random topics and we just kind of riff off them? I'd love to do that. So we schedule a little bit beforehand. We have a list of 10 headlines or 10 topics that we're going to talk about. And then we go on it. And I think you'd be perfect for it. So let's get me on. I'd love to come back. So yeah, we got the whole Who is the Pleb episode?

Now we'll head to the next. Sweet. Well, either way, thanks for hopping on. And, well, look forward to the next time you hop back on. Everyone follow me on Twitter. At Truck Driver Pleb. Definitely follow me on Twitter. Everyone installed Twitter, first of all.

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but look out for the Pleb on Twitter. Follow me. You will be entertained. I look forward to hearing from you, especially if you were on this podcast, if you actually told me, if you come in in in my comments, say you, I'd love to hear.

Hey, I heard from you on Sean Newman's podcast. This is me replying to you. I love that. I'll retweet that shit. Have a good way. Thanks, Pleb. Take care.