Shaun Newman Podcast - #364 - Joshua Bigger

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

He is the owner of Bigger Roofing out in Ontario, but he's probably better known as Mr. Freedom or The Best Damn Roofer.  January 22nd SNP Presents: Rural Urban Divide featuring: Vance Crowe, QDM & Stephen Barbour.   Get your tickets here: snp.ticketleap.com/ruralurbandivide/ Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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I want to get to something real quick, because I had a couple listeners text me to it, and I assume that I did something wrong on this side. But the link I put in the show notes sent you to the old S&P Presents, QDM and twos and of course January 22nd we have it's a Sunday night and if you're wondering why a Sunday because I've been asked that as well it worked out that Vance is in Emmington the following day and Quick Dick is in Vermillion the previous evening so we scheduled for Sunday we're gonna have a rural urban divide night we got Stephen Barber hopping in with them so you get Stephen Barber from you know the Bitcoin world upstream data you got

Vance Crow, and of course you got Quick Dick McDick, talking about the rural urban divide at the Gold Horse Casino, Sunday, January 22nd. The new link in the show notes will take you to that one. I don't know why. It didn't work the first time, but I'm appreciative that some listeners reached out and said they couldn't get there. I hope to see a whole bunch of you there

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Big time. Welcome to Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Joshua Bigger. You may know him as the best damn roofer. You may know him as Mr. Freedom. I'll let people decide what they want to know you as. Either way, excited to have you on. I went down.

I didn't realize, I guess I didn't. Well, first, hey, man, thanks for hopping on it. It took a little bit of time this morning, but we figured it up. You know, it's funny. I feel like I might be a little inept because I've watched your best damn roofer videos. And I've chuckled myself and I watched a bunch of them again this morning. And I've, you know, anyone who can elicit laughter out of a little short videos. I mean, that's, that's a talent.

I guess I didn't realize you were Mr. Freedom all at the same time. We're in the same damn group chat when it was talking about the emergencies act. And I was like, oh, like that's anyways. I just had like an epiphoning in this morning, like a light bulb moment where I'm like, oh, yeah, anyways, a small circle. Two different people, two different guys. One guy's a comedian, one guy's a patriot, right? that's right that's right well you you got to tell me a little bit about yourself i feel like a ton you know

i get i've had you suggested for the podcast um quite a lot actually over the last probably six months something like that and um i i you know it's it's like one of those things when i start off a new year i'm all right let's put them all down on the list and let's start to pick them off here and your name's been on there multiple times so you know you just kind of you space out and then you finally reach out either way you can kind of get where my brain's at um but i'm going to assume a lot of people have never heard you. But I would love to hear a bit about your background. You know, I stumbled on to a video last night of you at a roofing conference, I'm assuming with your and your wife, talking about how, and this is before COVID, this is before anything. I was like, oh, wow, this is, this is fascinating.

But either way, I'll let you take it where you want. We'll see where we get to. Well, I've been doing influencing for a while in the industry, doing comedy. So the roofing industry is a multi-billion dollar market in the U.S. And so I started making these comedy skits that people really enjoyed. And then eventually these people saw me in the States. They do these big events. They started paying me to go there.

And then I've got everyone in the roofing industry knows me, right? It's the lord of the roofing industry. So, I mean, that got me into just playing and performing these silly songs that I've written and wrote for the roofing industry that I'd go to a trade show. They'd bring in beer and all these roofers would come to see me play, right? It was something

unique, something totally different, something abstract for the industry. The industry was very behind in social media marketing. And as me as a musician and I always enjoyed making videos and content, kind of just fell into this character where I make people in the industry laugh. And the industry is prone to drug addiction and alcohol abuse and, of course, a bad reputation. So the character and the idea of the comedy all falls off that topics of being drunks and high and And so it also helps people laugh at themselves or, you know, heal themselves from when they used to be addicts. We make fun of addiction and everything else.

And I'm always telling people the only way you can get past something is if you can laugh at it, right? So if you have a problem in your life and you can get over, you can laugh at it. It's situation it's done now. So I've always fought with the side of comedy, right? And I've been doing it for almost 10 years now. And I had a pretty big platform. I had several pages deleted. they've, I've been canceled for the, you know, five or six times over the last decade.

And so when I went to Ottawa for the convoy, of course, it's the roofer there. I was afraid they're going to kill. They already did cancel me when I went there with my first live. I got shadow ban. They deleted my one TikTok with 450,000 followers. And so that's when I decided to dress up with the fur coat on the red paint and give the media what they wanted. And they actually shadow banned me on all my platforms, but they put my face in every media across the world, claiming that I was this, you know, criminal guy.

But a lot of people knew exactly what I was doing. I was just bringing awareness to the situation in Ottawa. So that's kind of how the developed of the comedian to the Patriot. And I was just standing up for our fundamental rights as Canadians. And I just kind of fell into it. We made a couple songs with the music that weren't about roofing. It was rather about freedom. And we, you know, marched around, waved our flag peacefully and stood up for our beliefs.

And there is a nutshell. You know, it's funny. A couple of thoughts. Jump out at me right away. But one is, you know, it's funny. When you watch your videos, especially the videos where, you know, you're talking about the left and everything else, that some people don't catch that humor. You know, they assume that you're like, I don't know, maybe the most inappropriate roofer on the planet who's hammered drunk on the roof doing lines of cocaine and whatever else. and, you know, like, I'm like, man, like, even if you're like, you think that, maybe you should

just watch a few more videos to just see exactly what you're doing. It's, it's a talent. Actually, I just have a guy from Twitter on the pleb. I don't know if you know that name. He's another guy from out to out east. And he, that's what he does. He trolls people, right? He just like, And it's a skill. I don't have that skill. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, this is, this is talent. Like, it's, it's,

it's, it's very cool, uh, to watch and then to watch people like, absolutely lose their shit, which is wild because I mean, like, what you do is,

is, is comedy. It's, it's, it's, it's rather clever. Well, thank you. I mean,

we got the left pretty upset this year with the post that I charge more, um, do your, um, your voting status. So if you vote liberal, And we made a video. It was called Fuck Yourself, if I can swear on here.

And it was about telling people, if they don't like your high price, you know, fuck off. So we started shooting this video in January, February, and then finished it in March. And we were trolling the left so they would bite. So they'd take it. They'd take this bait. So I was, you know, we're taxing them more. So as soon as they took this bait and went viral, I was, CBC was reaching out to me, talk show hosts in the state's big names on podcast about how this conservative asshole they think

it's all real was overtaxing the liberals so within a week of that video going viral then we released the justin or the josh bigger version of the jesusn biver version of go love yourself but obviously uh in that tune but it was go fuck yourself so we did this massive production to tell everyone to fuck off you know pretty much and some people got got the humor of it and a lot of people were upset about it, but that's the freedom of speech in comedy, the power of comedy. We used to really play on political sides, you know, back in the 80s, back at the 70s, Saturday Night Live, right? That's kind of what I was raised on. So I really enjoy political humor. I mean, if you, if you don't, just, if you don't like it, just change the channel, right? So it's setting me death threats and trying to

close my business. You strike me as you talk, as a guy who is very, very, you planning things out because you talk about how, you know, we started filming and we knew this and then boom. I remember Jeremy McKenzie doing similar things where he would put things out knowing the response that would come and then having the response laid out. So let me,

let me ask you last night, actually, I was sitting down with two guys on the podcast, one from St. Louis and then a guy out in Saskatchew. I don't know if you know the name Quick Dick, McDick, he, you know, he's a stupid guy. comedy, whatever. We were talking about the ways to bring people together. We were talking about

the rural, urban, divided, just how different groups of people are different. I've been talking a lot about this. And it was Daryl Sutter who had said there's three ways to bring people together. One was music, church, and sports. And then we added into it last night, comedy, because you know, exactly what you're doing, exactly what Quick Dick does. There's a lot of different things where it just brings everybody together. We went down this road of like, you know, pretty deep conversation to be honest Josh like it it um just how do you bring such a different groups of people uh together and i listen to what you just said and i'm like huh you're a guy who can see what the response is going to be and then continue on if you were to plan out is there a way

to bring people together or do you think it's um you know not not a lost cause but you know maybe an impossible task. It's not an impossible task. Like laughter is like there's always that old saying. Laughter is the best medicine. Now we could have two opposing views, but if we both laugh at something, we shared a positive feeling,

you know, vibration, one might say. And that really breaks the barrier right there. So you dropped all your, all your different opinions for that one second of laughter. And it felt amazing, right?

So, I mean, take this into thought. I don't know like the idea of drag queens for kids. There's been videos and evidence of what they're doing in Texas and all of North America where there's concerns that this might not be a healthy thing to subject children to. So, of course, I'm going to protest outside the vegan restaurant that's doing this, drag queen for kids in our local area.

So instead of going down there and, you know, being assertive like some people might be, and same with the pride people, they're pride dagger, they're being very, you know, aggressive. I went down there and served up free hospital. hot dogs, right? So knowing what the reaction was going to be already, I went down there, 70 hot dogs boiled already, I got condiments and buns, and serving this up, I knew the newspaper I was already to call me a hateful hate crime. They have my picture and says hate was here in Niagara, it's my picture, he had no free hot dogs. And so really, you know, you know what the outcome is, but you already have your ammo to fight back with what you're saying. You have hours

of live videos of me laughing and smiling. And even the people that were my enemies, still making them chuckle and laugh. So we were down there. There might have been a difference of opinion, but the media wanted to portray hate, but I was already, you know, I was already ready for what they were about to do and just showed them in my live videos

getting hundreds of thousands of views on our videos during this free hot dog giveaway at the vegan shop. And then watching the tabloids at Toronto Sun and the standard give their perspective of being totally wrong after hundreds of thousands people have already seen the live commentary and everything else that we put on there that day. So then if I,

If I look at like, A, it's clever. Very, very clever, right? I think everybody saw that damn video. Like, that was, that was clever. Thank you. Do you look at it and go to the long game then? If we're playing the long game is just to get like the CVC, the Toronto Star, all these different mainstream outlets are going to try and slant it one way.

But the ability, like you say, to have hundreds of thousands of views basically discredit some over and over and over and over and over again. Because when you have a little bit of forethought and certainly what you're talking about, you can see it plainly, that's exactly what it's doing. It's slowly just tearing down the old guard, I guess, is my thought. Well, this is one of the reasons why I started doing the Freedom Movement because I wanted to show people what we're really about, like your awareness. So anytime I'm doing something, that's my main goal.

It always has been either will it be comedy. I'm always got a, you know, something that I'm going to, you know, something that I'm talking about. Like even in the old Best Damn Ruper videos, I was telling everyone that the Queen Elizabeth is a demonic lizard,

right? Everyone, it's funny, but then when you see that her sons been guilty of pedophilia and their family's been behind some evil things over their lineage, you start to say,

okay, there's a point to all this. Just open your eyes a little bit in a different perspective. Just look at it from a different angle, right? Don't always take the given narrative, right? It's not always the true. They don't spoon feed you, you know, things to make you think.

They spoon feed you. things to make you shut up and go on with your day, you know? So that's kind of always been my goal, is just causing awareness, whether it be, you know, drug awareness and BDR or act like a drug addict makes you have a terrible existence and you're a terrible human being kind of thing. Like, although it's not, you know, DDR becomes this gigantic piece of shit who will rip off his clients all they're young to benefit himself because his drug habit, right? So you can see the moral behind it all.

Like, yeah, don't be that person. You can live a better life. If you can laugh at it, you can move past it, right? even if you've done it. When, you know, when was your moment when you started to, maybe it's super young, maybe it was COVID, I don't know, it sounds like it was quite some time ago. You talk about trying to get people just to like maybe change your mind a little bit

on some of the things that government or the media is saying. When you look back, you know, at what point, you know, you got five kids, right? Five kids, yeah. Five kids. Man, that's, I got three on this side. So I, God bless you. I appreciate a guy with kids that's looking out for the future. When you look back, was there a moment?

Was there something you watched? I mean, you've had an interesting career. I'll let you go. 9-11 is actually going to open up my eyes. So the television was telling me that these towers dropped on live TV 9-11. It's almost like a number scripted, right? It was emergency. It was also seen on TV 9 a.m.

We watched this. And just like everybody else that was watching this, within 24 hours, we had an enemy to hate to attack. And they made me feel like I wanted to kill these people, these terrorists that I had no idea and the stories that were developing. And boom, boom, boom. And I'm like, I took a second back. Like, why do I want to go, I'm telling people like,

I let's go kill these fucking people. And I'm like, how the hell did I, you know, how the hell did I get here? And I started to look into things a little bit deeper. And I found a video called Lose Change. And someone made me watch it. They're like, don't be so angry. the stuff you're seeing. Check out maybe there's a different enemy rather than these people they're telling you to hate, right? And then all of a sudden you look at it. Like maybe it's the

dirty old white people that are running the country like the George Bushes and the Clintons and all this. And he started looking into these groups that have infiltrated the churches, your schools, your way of life. And that whole era, I mean, people to call you a conspiracy theory to believe that, you know, rich elites destroyed their own buildings to cause war to make more money. They're like, that's impossible, you know, but once I broke it down in 2001, and after then I never really believed anything the media was saying. Like, they, they know you so well. They know you even more now because of your cell phones and how they can trace and watch your interactions, how to pull on your emotions, either fear or love. And they used fear during 9-11 to turn a person like me

was happy to want to kill people, just like that within 24 hours. And I sat back, digested all the information and realize that they're using this media as an evil tool to control people and to force you to feel things to benefit them. If that makes any sense, that's kind of where I fell into the, you know, we got to wake a lot of people up and make things aware of what's going on around us and not just believe the push narrative, right? Well, I can't, it makes perfect sense to me. It shocks me when I hear 9-11. It shocks me for a couple things. You know, I remember being in school when they rolled out the old television and we were basically told to shut up and I talk right and we sat and we watched and I was grade well that would have been grade 10 geez that's a long time ago now

uh and it took like I hear that and I'm like man that's a long time to have your because you know you just think how many people including myself were just like glued to not not only the television but just the narrative right and then you know in the middle of COVID for myself um I had a point where I interviewed a series of vote. I don't know what it was. You know, like I remember Peter McCullough coming on, but I remember before that,

uh, uh, there was just a local doctor who was terrified, like absolutely shaking. And I don't think he said anything remotely. He was talking about medical ethics. It was just, it was,

um, almost a nothing interview, except his reaction of even talking about it. You know, he was just like, he was just like literally shaking for saying it. And then the longer you stuck where you wouldn't leave asking questions alone, the more you started to realize, oh, man, this is like there is way more to this. And I mean, you were in Ottawa.

I got to go to Ottawa. I got to see the convoy on the way to Ottawa. Amazing. Words cannot describe, right? And once you've seen all that, like, there's just no going back. It's like, at this point, it's like, what else? You know, and that's, that's a, it's a slippery slope in a good and bad way. You know, like I don't want to look at everything and think it's all completely fabricated,

but there's enough out there that, you know, you're just like, fuck me. Oh, I know. I mean, and some of the things, I put some crazy stuff out there and people get upset. I get personal messages like I made a comment about the Pope just dying this week. And I just put good riddance, you know. just to see people's reactions. But I have a lot of older people watching my content. And they're like, how could you say something about this person?

I'm like, well, just look into it. These groups have been behind some evil things over the years. And if you're part of that group, how do you know he did anything evil? Being part of it is evil. Like there's been so proof of pedophilia throughout that community. I mean, the religion idea is great, but these leaders that are monks that are evil. Like it's the serpent that gets involved with everything that you know, that you know, your school. It's even in your money.

It even shows you the little symbol, the snake and the money, right? You go to your health care. Has a snake on it, right? You look at your Apple phone. Has the apple to bite out of it. Don't take a bite out of the apple. Hey, the serpent's going to get you. So there's this whole religion that's based around worshipping the snake.

And it totally goes against religion. And you're trying to explain people that this is a demonic and like an evil religion that's, it's stretched out through the Western civilization between the elites and our parliaments, even laced with it, with their Gothic revival architecture right inside their monuments. You can see it. And everyone's just turning a blind eye to it. But once, like you said, once you see it, once you see the evilness, you have no choice but to, you know, try to help humanity and, you know, at least do your part to fight against the evilness. And I mean, that's where I coming from. I found an energy in Ottawa when we all were together on Parliament Hill and that energy that you felt,

and that how we came to a community with nothing. We didn't have any government. We just fell together and we worked under this amazing structure. It felt like some people call God. Some people call it, you know, this beautiful aura. But it was definitely something there and it wasn't evil that we felt when we came together. And that's why Ottawa changed the world. I got to, okay.

The Apple phone, do you think that was premeditated then? Obviously. Yeah? Yeah, I was a symbolism is massive. It's been done through all through all through. So. Yeah. I guess I, you know, sometimes you probably know this better than anyone else.

Some days you're interested and you go down like a YouTube rabbit hole too. You're like, oh my God, I did not realize this or I did not pay attention and blah, blah, blah, blah. And some days you're like, you know what? The brain today, I'm going to close it off. We're going to enjoy some family time. We're going to go do some things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. certainly money certainly health care certainly and you know the one that's sitting right in front of me that I've never even paid attention I'm like I've just I've never even you know you talk about

it's like sitting right there but you never even yeah you just like stare at and you carry on with life and you don't think anything I'm like oh oh okay shit well it's welcome to 2023 Sean symbolism is everywhere it always has been up It's in architecture, the designs, the degrees of the ways certain things are shaped, you know, even going down to the basic structure of the pyramids and what angles they're built on. And there's a whole, there's architecture is a beautiful thing. I mean, that's why we adore the, you know, you believe in God because we adore this creation we live on, right? So these architects that are, you know, of man, they keep their symbolism right inside their architecture.

You can see it in our parliament. You can see it in Toronto. You can see it in Wales. You can see it in the parliaments in Britain and London all through Western civilization. And it's a Gothic revival architecture. I mean, they hide their, they hide their information in plain sight. That's why they get away with it for so long. It's just a castle.

It's just a design, right? It's more than that. So their design is evil, dark. Can we use one of those words? Sure. Would that work? So is there also? design then, you know, because I mean,

if there's dark, there's light, right? If there's good, there's... Young and Yan, right there. So then is, so then is their architecture that's the opposite way that's just, you know, nobody knows, but like, have you found that? Is there such a thing? It's like the frequencies and sound and the shapes they make, like,

it's a huge topic to go into, but like sound waves themselves or like snowflakes, like the architectural design of these beautiful, you know, us, ourselves. Like, that's, that's the architecture that would be the most divine, right? right? And just like yin and yan, I don't think the one exists with the other, right? It's like sun and moon, right? Day and night. So the sad thing is that evil has to exist, I think,

in order for us to exist. But it's up to us to reveal it and to live a positive life. So when you, when you, you know, you talk about a big topic. I guess here that's, I'm all for it because I'm listening and I'm like, hmm, that's interesting. I, so much gets pointed out about, uh,

the dark, you know, the, the, the evil side of the world. I'm like, can we talk a little bit about the good side then? Cause I mean,

like Ottawa was, was beautiful. But, you know, like it happened, you know, geez, it's now 10 months ago,

right? Like, it's, it's a while back. Uh, I'm curious if there's, if there's things you, you've seen along your travels that you're like,

ooh, people should, know about this. Well, like I pointed out when I was in Ottawa, like some of the symbolism, like Ottawa's new symbol on the police car and on their parking meters is a VO with the three flares, which very looks, it looks like a six. And they put it, they put it six, six, six, six, six, all over the town. I mean, some of the, like, I mean, I pointed it out on TikTok and they deleted my $450,000, $450,000 following account. So, oh, this guy's telling the truth about Ottawa's symbolism, fucking shut them down. Right. So it's, it's a real thing. I see it. I see it

firsthand. They're literally, do you think people up at the top? I don't know how, I don't know how to say this about it sounds so, so, such a fucking moron. Because like the world economic has the,

has the same, uh, little branch when you, when you highlight, you're like, oh, that's like, that can't be by fucking chance.

That has to be. So that means if, if you're going to go down this rabbit hole, it means that there is a group of people that are extremely influential. intellectual world economic forum that at the top of their their power structure because if you felt the good in Ottawa, which I think everybody who went there felt and you're like, wow, my immediate thought was after I came out of there was if there's good like that, there's got to be the opposite,

which means it's got to feel just as enticing. And what you're talking about with symbolism and everything else is it somewhere at the top, they know that. They know that very much so, yeah. And they're so worried about it. If we get together like we do in Ottawa, they get so scared they call the fucking army in, right? That's how nervous that made them when they had people actually unifying under no government structure, but under the divine creator and just feeling that energy, they're like, fucking bring out the army, man. You get people unifying like this.

It's scary for a government that their goal is to basically lock you down and take your rights away. and your guns and your family values, right? And your health. Yeah, I've read a bunch on, you know, communism or Marxists and some of the things they try and take away so you become more dependent on the government. And like, I mean, look at what COVID did, right? Like, it attacked the fact.

I've never had more friends family, well, no, friends, sorry, with issues in their family where people were just, you know, and like before COVID, you're going to have your, you know, everybody's family feuds. That's right. But COVID, like, put a steroid on it, broke up. So many families aren't talking, aren't going. And I think over time here, it's starting to heal.

But, like, there was a time there. Like, it was, it was ugly. You know, here in. And you know how they did it, though? They did that with the cell phone. Everybody has a cell phone that divided them up. That's why that this device is designed. They knew exactly what they could do.

Once they get a cell phone in your hand, they can split up an entire family with just, an idea of medicine, fighting over medicine that hasn't been thoroughly tested. That's what they broke up families with. That's how weak we've become, right? That's the truth of it all, right? They simply did that with these devices. They did it very, they planned this out years in advance. They're going to watch how you behave on these devices, how your eye patterns look,

how many times you scroll, what you press, how you argue. They're literally watching everything you do, and they're using these tools to work against you, directly work against you and your family. Because if you don't have a family, you're not a strong unity and you can't fight anything. Yeah, it's, it's, well, it's probably why then I hold the family unit as the most important thing. I mean, certainly I lean on what Jordan Peterson has written about in that you have to, you know, you got to work on yourself because you're no good to anyone if you're unhealthy.

After that, it's the family unit, the immediate family unit. That's the building block of society. That falls apart. We're all in a world of hurt. And, you know, I, we had a, we had a, we have, I don't know why I keep saying we have, anyways, we have a book club. It started in 2018. I've talked a lot about this on here.

Every listener has heard it a thousand times now. But without that book club, group of men, you know, the idea being better husbands, better fathers to try and like hold each other accountable and work, you know, nobody can, you know, you got five kids. Did anybody walk you through? You know, this is what it's going to be like and this is what kids are going to be like or, you know, or in that, like being married to someone for a long time. Anyone ever just, you know, this is how it's going to mean. No, there's no, there's books that are written, but nobody can write down your life and the things that are going to be thrown at you, right?

And so we formed this book club to do exactly that, to talk through some, you know, just to give an opening. Without that, I wouldn't have. Like, I mean, I just, I wouldn't have. And I didn't think I was a, I didn't think I'd be susceptible to like depression or like dark thoughts or any of that. And COVID pushed us all to the brink. Yeah. And so the family unit holding those values very, very high, it's, it's, that's something I think all communities across Canada can start working on like immediately. And they probably already are, Josh, you know, they probably already are.

well you know they are and like a lot of communities were broken up like churches even during the uh yeah the last three years they didn't allow you to go to church which really threw me off and nobody fought for that there's only a few pastors uh throughout a canada fighting to keep their churches open um and i just couldn't believe that uh people would wouldn't stand up for their like you go to walmart there's 10 10 million people going through walmart north america today but not one's going to their church today. You know what I mean? Like it just they just disintegrate everything so quickly and it was all done with these phones. And I tell people this all the time, turn your phones off at night, take a break from your phones, go outside, get some fresh air, get some sunlight. And, you know, these phones are

really, I mean, we use them to spread the word, but it's almost like a double-edged sword. Do you know what I mean? Like you can get lost in these phones, like you said, on both sides of the coin. You know, You know, you can find yourself praising medicine or you can find yourself scared to take any medicine at this point, right? So this device really throws you either left or right. There's really no middle traction to this. And you have to find yourself in the middle of that and take what, take what it's worth on either side of the coin, you know?

Yeah, you got to find, like, it's a tool, you know. It's certainly put a lot of good in the world, but to not acknowledge. some of the bad that has come with it is being blind, right? Yes. And I think more and more people are starting to realize that, I think, I hope. It doesn't mean that they're using it, you know, a ton less or what have you. Probably, you know, I'm fortunate enough with the kids and everything. You know, on New Year's Eve, we do a kid-friendly New Year's Eve, right?

So we have a nine o'clock ball drop for like a group of like, I forget, what was? there are maybe 10, 12 kids that are like six and under. And that right there, that's, that's what life's about, you know. Yeah, I always joke about you seven hockey, you know, five and six year olds,

kindergartner and grade oneers on the ice. That right there is what life's about. Go do that. Like inject some of that in your life. You'll forget about a lot of the bag because that's the, that's the healthy portion of life that we all need. And once upon a time in the middle of COVID, that was all gone,

you know, like none of that was there. That's why it was orchestrated. You know, they knew what to take. wait for me to break you. They know your cycles, they know your habits and they took everything away. And hopefully people now understand what their goals were, their goals weren't for your safety just to save one life, you know. Do you think, you know, on the, on the,

maybe on the optimistic side, there's more and more people that, uh, that see what's going on, then, you know, that are pushing back, uh, or talking openly about it, you know, I don't, I certainly don't have all the answers. I, I don't, but I, I want to talk about it. You know, the day we have where we can't ask questions and talk about things, as difficult as they may be. And certainly, you broached a bunch of those subjects. And at the time here on the podcast, we've talked about just about anything. Just to ask questions, the day that goes away, we're in a dark place. And so I wonder, is there enough now that's pushing the other way, you know, did they predict that?

You know, like, I'm always like, how smart were they? You know, how they would have been? Do you think they're ready for this? Well, I think what they, this is my honest opinion, that there's always a hierarchy that we don't get to know who they are, like society-wise. And they make everything really bad. And it's going to seem like the, you know,

we've gotten rid of all these bad people. Say they remove people from office and they charge medical experts for, you know, being a function research and all that stuff. And then it just goes away. And oh, the good guys won. We got all the bad guys. And then it just kind of like after World War II, but they sent all the German Nazis over here to run national.

to run their aerospace engineer programs and all these medical programs are involved with. And it just kind of dissolves. We think we won. But in turn, they just did what they wanted. They did a whole worldwide experiment with an MRNA vaccine. And everyone did it or nearly everybody did it. So they got what they wanted. And it's all, it's, I mean, that's one theory I always come up with it.

You know, there's always that one entity that always gets its way. And we just think we won and we really didn't, much like after both the World Wars, right? And you can consider this to be World War III. So shit will get kind of normal, but never back to normal. But we'll think, you know, this, there's a reset happening, whether it be the good or bad or whatever side we think these people may fall on. I think it just, it was already planned out. It's another few years left to go in this bullshit, unfortunately. It's not over yet.

No, I mean, when it just comes to the 2030 agenda, 2035, no, what is it, no, there are not. not allowing any gas powered vehicles to be sold, all these different, you know, targets and agendas and everybody's moving blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, oh, man, like this is, like you say, it's not going to get better, you know, I remember talking to Julie Panessi. I assume you know who Julie Panessi is. So I was talking to her and, oh, this is like, this is like a two week period after she got let go from Western or step down from Western. And I remember asking her, and I must have looked like a child to her. I remember asking, you know, like,

how long is this going to last? You know, like three months, four months? And her look on her face was just like, no. And I'm like, no, like, six months. You know, and when you, when you look at, oh, hell, even COVID, honestly, it's been pretty much been three years now. Like, I mean, it's closing on three years.

And we don't like, somehow we like, carpent, carpent, I can't even say the damn word. Carb. Anyways, we, like, Google it. Fucking can't say it. Isn't that terrible? Somebody's screaming at the radio right now.

Yeah. We put it in boxes anyways and we just kind of store it away, right? Like we just, and somebody, I'm going to get a fucking, a million texts now, Josh on this. I can't spit out the word. Anyways, in my head, I can say it. But in, in my, anyways, the tongue doesn't want to work, folks. But it's crazy that three years can go like that. Honestly, kind of like that is much pain and sorrow.

and everything else. We've been stuck in this for three years and there are still people pushing and for, you know, like it just came out that, you know, like people arriving from China are going to get COVID tested again.

You're like, but we already know that doesn't work. Like we know that doesn't work. We know all these things that you did before don't work. Why would we put that all back in? And here we are, three years ago and they're fighting over, you know,

that cases are on the rise and Justin Trudeau's going on TV saying, you know, get vaccinated. It's still going. good and that was a fringe minority and they and you're like how the hell do we get out of this well uh non-compliance um unify you say no right um i mean that was one of them my brothers are fall firefighters in the area here and that was one of the thing they were three of uh six

people out of a couple hundred that said no so everyone just did to do what they say trust them stop trusting the government and trusting in yourself and um we need um what's the I'm looking for politicians to be liable or, you know, responsible for their decisions. We need medical companies to be responsible for their medicines. And we just, we had to say no. Before the, we used to have FDA approval take 10 years. Oh, this one's better. We tested it for six months, put in your body.

Keep doing it. Keep doing it. And no one's fighting back and people are getting sick. So this is our time just to fight back before it's too late. because this is just the first step to what they want to do. So this could continue on for 20 more years. Every year we take 40 fucking needles that we don't need to know what's in them just because it needs to get done in emergency. So we just had to say, fuck off.

Take your mask through over the garbage and got to do it in groups. You know, if the grocery store says don't wear a mask, go down there with 50 fucking people, go masks on and all shop together, come together, right? There'll be one guy that let you in your store without your mask on. I guarantee it. He wants to get paid, right? So money talks and the word I was searching for folks because I'm going to get this right compartmentalized dear God. I don't know why that's I don't know.

I don't know why that was so so difficult. You know, it's it's you know, it's you know, it's I read, I've been reading some different stories and then of course I've interviewed some different First Nations people who talk about. it was like the 18, I'm going to get the year wrong and I apologize, but it's like, I don't know, 1880 or 1890 somewhere in there where the Canadian government wouldn't allow them to get together to do ceremonies or any of their traditions and talk, bands weren't allowed to talk, right? So they were doing it in secret. And that lasted until I believe roughly World War I, because, well, then, you know, a lot of things happened, right? And I mean, you think about First Nations. People have their thoughts, good, bad,

different, whatever. But when you take that group of people and what they've been through, it's been over 100 years now of being, uh, well, and it's different now today,

but, you know, we, uh, we talk about three years of not being able to talk. And I think of Val here in Alberta, like at Christmas, geez,

what was that? Two years ago where they had the snitch line and people were calling this, you know, if you had people over your house and like, you got to remind people of that time, right? Yeah. If you go back to the,

the 1890s, with First Nations where they weren't allowed to meet. They weren't allowed to have powwows and things like that. They had to do it all in secrecy. That lasted like 20-some years. So you go here with where we're at. It's like don't think for a second that all of a sudden it's all kumbaya and we're walking out like 20 years.

Same royal family that's been in charge, buddy. Same fucking people. So they don't give a shit what they do to anybody. They only care about that 1%, which is their own family. And I always tell people, what are the 9%? Just everyone stand up and we unify. Put your differences aside and stand against these people. But it's hard to do that with big cities.

They all think alike in the big cities, right? They're like herded sheep. They just go where they're told, right? Well, so then I come back to this rural urban divide. You know, one of the things that unnerved me so much, this is probably like three, four years ago is I looked it up because, you know, one of the most, it's funny. They say, you can't, oh, you do your own research, right?

They try and poke fun at you like you can't figure things out, right? And like just find things because one of the most important things is doing, I'm not saying watch a 30 second clip and believe it as truth and whatever else. I'm like spend some time go look at some things. But one of the things, because you can never forget that. It's like that's one of the most powerful tools. Anyways, I found out this is, you know, three, four years ago that the population in Cannes, 83.3% lives in cities. And it's a certain size. I can't remember, you know, if Lloyd's considered a city. I assume it is. I forget what the definition of a city is. But you get the point, 83.3% are living in,

um, urban centers. And I'm like, I come from a background of, like, rural living, you know, being on the country and farming and that type of thing. And, and, and you go back to the dirty 30s. It was, it was almost like a 50, 50 split. It was just a little higher rural. And so, the cities what they did when it got bad when food supply got bad they gave everybody a garden plot in saskatoon right so everybody had to go so like the values of rural impacted urban and where we sit today is the complete and utter opposite and so i look at it and i go okay so we we can agree that chances are things aren't just going to be jim dandy for the next 10 years right there's going to be some hurdles there's going to be some things and you're going to have to rely on

your community. But your community is literally a giant wedge between the two thought processes. So how do you bring people together? How do you bring the people together knowing that music, religion, sports, and comedy will bring them together? How do we create something that that's, that brings the population together? Because I agree with it. 99 over 1%. It should, you know, that's what mobs have. But when you get a mob, mob, you know, as Vance Crow would say, that's like the scariest thing humans can do because they're no longer, you know, like look at some of the worst atrocities in the entire world have happened when people get mob mentality and go kill neighbors and everything else. And it goes like down a very, very dark road. They don't care anymore. They just want blood. I guess the question is, how do you bring people together? Well, we got our five points, right? But how does it happen? I mean, I think it's, It's going to be a lot of, there's always war before there's peace at this time.

And that's the, I mean, that's what I think's going to happen. I think we're going to have, there's going to be a world war that's going to be more physical than anything. I mean, is it inevitable? It feels like it is. It feels like that's what the people are pushing for. I hope there isn't. But maybe that's just the same process. If you look back through history, that's always what happens, right?

There's war. And there's peace for a period of time. And then there's war and there's peace again until there's war again. it's just a cycle, much like day and night, good and evil. It's just that continuous fight and that's why we're here, right? That's what gives us the, uh, gives us that, uh, reason to be here, I guess, right? You fight for one side and fight for the other. There's, we never have an explanation for what we do, right?

Right. I don't know. I, what are you doing it? You know, here as 2020 starts, what are you hoping to accomplish? I mean, in 2023. Okay. Well, is that a work goal? I got to do a lot of roofs, first of all.

The work got to get that. One of the first things I could be, I got to pay for all the kids I made. But, you know, this year I decided because my character's always been so like abstract and drunk. I'm actually quit drinking on the 28th on the Holy Innocence Day. So this is a sixth day I have had a drink. So I'm kind of pushing that to kind of help people a little bit more this year. You know, if it's such a dark place, what can I do to make it back? matter. Maybe I think my dark humor might be a little too much. So I've tried to,

on Mr. Freedom's page, I want vocal about going sober, um, doing January to start one, start with, but the goal is to go to April or even longer. Um, so that's kind of one of the things I've tried to do is maybe change my perspective a little bit and see if, you know, helping people on a larger scale rather than just doing comedy, um, maybe doing some type of, um, like, you know, doing a sobriety thing where people know that you're doing it with them. and that can lead them into a better person, right? That's a very honorable thing to do. And I love beer too.

Well, that's the thing. I'm like, you know, I've done, I think the longest we did was like three months maybe. I forget what it was now. You know, because I remember a time, I go back to the book club where I suggest, let's do a month, no drinking. Like a month, we're not going to be. And what you don't understand is how good you feel. You will eventually get to a point where you're going to bed and you feel great, you sleep great, you wake up, you're happy. And you're just like, okay, so why do I do this?

And the crazy thing is, I still enjoy having a beer or with the brothers having a scotch, right? Like, I still enjoy that, right? Like, I love the social aspect of it. But it's funny, I'll be interested to hear after, you know, when you say April, so four months, how you're feeling. And if you're like, you know what, I'm going to go back to having a couple here and there or if you're going to be like, man, this is.

I've done three and a half years, a little over three and a half years without any, really, any alcohol. Yeah, that was so, that was about 12, I was, yeah, 12 years ago, I started the nine years ago.

When my dad retired, I took him fishing in a flying fishing resort up north. And he was a truck driver, so he never smoked pot. And I had a medical license at the time. So I was like, well, you smoke a joint with me, Dad? He was like, yeah, I will. We're in the middle of a lake in the middle of Northern Canada alone.

As long as you have a beer with me. So I cracked a beer and had a beer with my dad after he retired, working for his family for 40, 50 years, every put in. And I kind of got back into it then. And then I took a couple breaks here and there. But that was my longest. And I enjoy taking breaks from stuff. Like, it's just, you know, I love beer. So I could drink like a six pack a day.

right but i mean it's like drinking thousand calories a day like so i just go by groulsh 0.0 right now and i still have a couple beers a day i still drink beer just with an alcohol in it so why why the three and a half years where you stopped was there a purpose there where you have an issue or i don't mean to pry too much no you can ask any question you want and i don't i don't have anything i have an older my oldest daughter was for previous so there's a custody dispute um and i just figured the best way to uh be a better father, especially she was really young when Chloe was really young and I was really young. So I just figured it would have been a good way.

If you're going to claim, you're going to be taking care of a child part time or more to say that you don't drink at all. Right. So it was just something. Then I got out of it. And just the way you felt, felt good. I was a really good shape. No body fat. You're working out.

And then, of course, when you get back into the swing and drinking after work, you have five or six beers and you just go to bed. You don't do the workout. You know, so this year I try to, I'm 40 now. That's kind of why I want to get back into it. I want to promote positive living rather than just fighting for freedom on my page. Maybe I can, like I said, bring some people in and give some depth to the viewership, you know, like so you can be involved with what we're doing. And that's how you build people together.

That's how you bring people together, unity. So if you're doing positive things, you can change the world, I guess. Well, I mean, as I hear you talk, I go, if I go back on what I said, You've got to work on yourself first. And sobriety is certainly going to make you, like, this doesn't mean having beer or anything's bad. But overindulgence in anything where it controls your life is bad. And so if you go sober, chances are you're going to become a better person for it, which means you can become better for your family and your community and things.

So that's honestly what you're talking about is not that simple of a way. But I mean, because I mean there's work to be done in that. But it's a way in which communities can become better. Because, you know, like I guess I'm always searching for new different ideas on, you know, how to protect one's community. Because I say this lots. Like where you live, I can watch the videos. I can talk to the people. I can certainly hear about different stories.

You can do that anywhere in the world. But when it comes to your community, it's you and the people who live there that are responsible for that. So how do you best prepare for when the bad times come? You know, like a farmer would say, you know, you have to prepare when the, you know, in the good days for when the inevitable is going to come. No rain, you know, fire. I mean, like there's a whole bunch of, you know, disease. Like there's just all these different things when it comes to animals and grain and all, you know. And so, you know, a community is very similar, you know, like you're going to have days in the future, whether it's by the World Economic Forum or whether it's just by. you know, where you live and everything else. I think of, you know, we, both of us live in, in Canada. And I was joking the other day, it's like eight months of the year is like inhabitable. And yet we've found a way, you know, like, we got so much snow here.

And it actually got up to like minus six the other day. And I was like, oh my God. I was walking on a sign a T-shirt. I was like, this is just amazing. And I'm sure somebody elsewhere would be like, you're freaking nuts. I'm like, try living in minus 40 for like three weeks. And then you come down to five. You're like, this is the best.

but I come back. I'm like finding ways to build up your community instead of tear it apart. And sobriety would be, well, my hat's off to you because I think the more people that do that, they're going to naturally become, I would think, better people and especially the ones that are really struggling. Well, like you said, there's bad days in everyone's future. And if you're drinking heavily and you're making a lot of those bad days, you're making those obstacles yourself. Some people can't have five years after. work and say that's it. They're going to have 12 or 15. It's going to enable them the next day to do what they want to be a good dad to get to work on time. And that's where depression falls into. A lot of people don't know that actually alcohol is a depressant by name. Like that's what it is.

Marijuana is elucidogenic. You know, like alcohol is a depressant. And it does it by nature. You drink it the next day. You might feel happy for that moment in time. But the next day, if you're a heavy drinker, you're falling into depression on a regular basis. So, a lot of people can't enjoy alcohol. A lot of people can, but there's a lot of people that need help realizing that maybe you should take a break. So, you know, that's one, one less thing you got to worry about. Hangovers are terrible, right?

So I find this New Year's is a good, people are like, why did you start, stop drinking two days before fucking New Year's? I'm like, well, if you're going to quit, might as well, I went to a New Year's party, watch everyone else get drunk and act like idiots. I'm like, but I'm not drinking. It's almost like therapy, right? Hey, like, I feel normal. This is what I look like.

I'm done, right? I mean, you know, everyone's having good time dancing and, you know, being over-emotional and spilling drinks and stuff, right? But I always find it's if you're going to do it, just do it. And that's why I quit on the 28th to go do the party sober. And if there's people there that are thinking about going sober, they already get to see you live doing it already, living that, right? I brought my two kids, six and seven.

They were DJing with me. and we played some music and it was a wonderful evening. So we got to drive home, right? Yeah, I think anytime you start to go, you know, I'll do it after this one because I really want to, you can do that, you can do that for the next year. Like you're going to have big days. You're going to have big days. And when you stop something, you're going to have to realize you can still have a fun at

those big days, but it's just going to be different. But those days are coming whether you want or not. Every time I seem to do it, it's in the middle of summer. People always give me, why are you doing it in summer? I'm like, I don't know, does it matter? Like, does it matter if it's lake season or if it's middle of winter and you're just sitting inside? Like, I mean, at the end of the day, there's always going to be days that you're, you know,

that would be fun to have a couple sociables at. It doesn't matter the time of year. See, I like to take a break in the summer too. Like, we've got a lot of work. I got six weeks of work. I had last day I was in a beer and he slowed me down, right? I only got, you know, so many hours of daylight and so many shingles you got to put on before the end of the month.

And then I'll go up north with my brothers and my dad and we'll, crack cold ones on the beach, right? No worries, no, no work, no nothing, no cell phone. Just, you know, really. And so, you know, I mean, I'll probably quit till summer if I, if I make it through and I'll be up with my brothers, probably have a couple beers in the beach, but well deserved, right? But you never know.

I might say, fuck it. Might be a whole year. Might be two years. If I turn into five, you know, it's right. Depends how many people I help. But if I notice I'm helping people, I might say, fuck it, right? If it's benefiting more than myself, I might find a reason to keep going with it, you know? Yeah, no, that's.

That's, that's, uh, that's really cool. You know, I, I like, uh, I like, um, they're, their, their, their, their goals that are, that are, uh, I think that can benefit people is kind of the way I look at what you're talking about, you know, it's, uh, here in, here in Lloyd, we, we, we, I'm actually going to talk with Sean Zimmer this week. Uh, I'm excited about it because he's got, you know, in Manitoba, I believe, men's groups, uh, men's group, uh, men's group forming, right? And I know the, like, I've been doing a bunch of reading on, on, um, you know, um, you know, Even AA, and I'll be interested because I got to have the discussion with a guy about it because he, he isn't for AA. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I'm kind of curious, right? But when I do the brief reading I've done on it, it's the power of bond, like human bond, right? And that allows you to help break bad habits is groups of people coming together.

And so, you know, not that AA is the idea behind the Monday men. group that we've kind of half formed here in town. But it's just I understand what the book club did for me through one of the most atrocious times in my opinion. Well, in my life, right? COVID was bad. And it allowed me to have a support group that just allowed me to work through some thoughts that were pretty tough.

And so I'm like, man, imagine if every, and I think of men, imagine if every man could have a group of people that held each other and talked and whatever. It's a very lofty idea. and I don't know if it'll work. I might blow up in my face. But I'm like, I'm like, I need to learn more about this because it is very, you know, in Ottawa you got to feel like, and along the road to Ottawa, you got to feel like, wow, wow, when people come together and that energy and emotion and everything else, you're like,

wow, that's something. But I mean, I don't think you need to go to Ottawa to find it. I think people need to stand firm on what they believe and talk and have, you know, and be good human beings and all these different things. I'm like, and how do you do that? And my brain always goes back to bringing a group of people together and having like very difficult conversations in a safe atmosphere. I hope that's my 30 second elevator pitch because I think that'll make us all better because there's so much that we don't talk about anymore because we're worried about, you know, I'm always worried about. about conflict. Like it's going to be.

Yeah, that's what happens online. Like we try to tell here, some people will try to tell them people how they feel and it becomes conflict online. So someone shares their personal feelings and online attacks you, right? So online was supposed to become this place where you could get information and share information, but you can't open up there, right?

And that's a terrible thing. And the human beings, we just argue. Canada used to be one of the nicest places in the world and known for their friendly people. And now most Canadians argue on Facebook. That's 80% of someone's day. Do you know what I mean? So this group that you're talking about is an amazing idea

because we have these groups online, but they don't bring anything of that value that you're talking about, you know? Well, there's online, which is great. I think it's a great way to explore ideas and everything. But there's something, I hate to use of this word, almost magical about getting together with And for me, it's a group of men.

I like discussing things with other fathers, right? And married men that are struggling with things. And it doesn't mean there can't be single guys there and everything else. Probably can. But when you get in person with somebody and have to look them in the eyes and say, I disagree with you. And this is why. And then they go back and forth and you hear perspectives and you hear different thoughts.

Like it's just, I feel like it's a lost art form almost. Well, it is because we're so like if we go back to be on the phone, we're just, oh, you say something, you're a fat fucking idiot. And someone will tell you something they never say to your face, but they'll call you, it's they'll call you all these names. That doesn't occur in society when me and you're having a debate. I don't, just because we have a different opinion, that's not how society works for my whole life.

We would just have a, you know, you'd have a debate or an argument, and you would kind of go your own way. Or it might, you know, in the worst case, it turned into a fist fight, but that didn't happen every day. Now every day people are trying to express themselves online and they're being, they're being confronted. with anger and like basically like it's like online attacks right and it's just very odd that and that's why it feels so good to do it because that's what human beings naturally do that's how we know

we're designed to talk about things you know especially like you said talking about other men and other fathers to you know to help you get through your life it's basically like uh you know guidance you can find guidance other people because they're going through the same thing right um but that's been broken down in society with these fucking cell phones. Yeah. Well, and I mean, there's just, you know, I, I have no preconceived notion that what we're going through isn't something experienced in, in generations past. And I don't mean today's issues, just that they had big issues back then, too, right?

Like, I mean, there would have been. Religion. Religion was huge growing up. Like, you know, you had families moved from Europe. And one was an Orthodox Christian and the other one was a Catholic. And dinner time meant grandpa was going to try to stab Oma. or whatever, you know what I mean? The shit always happened, right?

But I think it's just more than ever on these fucking phones now, right? One, and issues can spread so fast. I remember listening to Joe Rogan. This is probably four or five years ago talking about a couple of different things, you know, like, shit, like the social credit score was certainly one of them. Serb was, it wasn't Serb, it was basic living or basic income. and things like that. I was like, wow, that's, that's really an idea. I remember thinking we're in the Midwest, right? Like, we're in the middle of nowhere. This will never get here. And you,

you see how quickly, uh, things spread now. Like, they spread fast. Oh, yeah. There's no acting like you're in the middle of the bush, although you could literally go live in the middle of the bush, I guess. But for most of us, uh, there's no acting like those issues aren't going to present themselves at some point in time to your community as a whole. hole and you know you got to you got to be able to articulate why you're why you feel the way you do and if you don't talk in my opinion there are very few people who can think through and then speak it most of us need to you know iron sharpens iron i guess right need to have it out and go oh that was a stupid thought why was that a stupid thought okay and then talk about it again and again and again and when

you do that i feel like you're you're better equipped to handle when the next issue presents itself which it surely, surely will. Okay, exactly, it will. And that's why isolation is so bad for the human psyche because they know that you break you down. You need conversation. You need that, right? And they've literally took that away from us for,

they attempted off and on for three years. And the only sense of communication we had was arguing on Facebook. So, you know, it's a crazy world that it's become in the last few years. And, you know, like that's one thing to use these devices. and these cell phones to do creative and positive things is the way to do it. And then, you know, build these communities where you can meet in person, you know, have a Facebook group, but you guys meet on Tuesdays and Thursdays to discuss real-life problems and be there for each other, you know.

And that's what you can do to make these devices worthwhile rather than just use them to argue a point of view that's probably not something you care about, but you feel rather just getting this angry energy out on somebody you don't know because you feel protected from that argument. You'll say whatever you want and what. whatever you shouldn't. You know, I, people always laugh at me when I bring up rat studies, but it, it was Peterson who talked about how you get a rat addicted to cocaine.

And so if you put a pile of cocaine in with a group of rats, none of them touch it. But if you isolate a rat, they'll start doing cocaine. And I, you hear that and you go, you know, like there's been, you know, some of the things that have, you know, some of the ramifications of walkdowns and, making us all terrified of our own shadow, you know, have become very dark and yet, you know, to act like nobody knew that was possible, that's a lie. Like that's, I mean, you isolate, you isolate a human being and it'll do a drug that's never done before.

Do you know what I mean? You just told me exactly what that, what that experiment did. I mean, let's see if it works for these people. And it did. A lot of people took an experimental, um, vaccination. And if you would have told people in 2018, hey, Would you give your babies and kids an experimental MNRA vaccine that could change their DNA and have health repercussions that you don't know about for the next 10 years?

Would you join that experiment? No, no way. Give a year of media warfare and attack on your psyche and you'll jab you, your kids, and everybody else just so you can get back to normal because you've been isolated, right? So, and essentially, we were rats, right? that that that was that's one of the things I remember very vividly was the they went from two weeks and we all laugh about it now right but they went from two weeks to what three years you know you kind of get the point but the is it attrition of war

I don't know if I'm saying that right but just the longevity of it the longer it went you could see people starting to buckle under the pressure and the pressure and the temperature just got turned up and up and up and more and more people that were not I'm not doing that when did it anyways because they just they just wanted life to move on they want to see their mom in a funeral hall are they want to go to see there before she was gone to want to want to want to go for supper wanted to go to a hockey game one to you know like there was very I mean towards the end there with uh in Alberta what if what did they call that what did they call that folks shit it was the um something exemptions plan so if you didn't have to have a

vaccine requirement to get into a hockey rink. But if you didn't have it, you can only have, you know, a third capacity. If you had it, then you could have full capacity or whatever. You're like, so now you're going to watch your kids hockey game and people are, you know, and in certain communities, like, I honestly, I don't remember it in Lloyd. And now I'm going to, I'm probably going to have somebody text me saying, oh, no, it was here. And I was in the rink enough. I don't recall it.

But I know in communities that are close enough where they did have it. And they did have somebody checking things and, you know, you're like, you know, like that. And I always go back, you, I don't know if you would remember this video. It was Ocean Wiseblatt. And I, he was a kid on a pond in Calgary and he got tackled. No, he didn't want to. And they arrested him and whatever else. And I remember thinking, like, oh, that'll never come to here.

And then we had a lady hauled out of the local swimming, the pool. and picking her kids up or what have you and, you know, tackled and everything else. And it's like because of, you know, just like, oh, man, it's everywhere right now. You know, it's tough. Anyways, I'm going down a dark little rabbit hole here. Well, I think anyone that's watching is going to do the same thing after they're done anyway.

I know, like, I'm like, I swear I have these, some older ladies. on my channel that are going down the rabbit hole. They're like, they never looked at it. They never had someone. Just take a look at your surroundings. Just take a look at everything.

And once you see it, you can't unsee it. Put it that way, right? It doesn't matter what you do. It's, it's been, that's been an interesting trend across a lot of people's platforms

is how many women are like on it. Like they're on it, you know? Mama bear. Mama bears, you know. Instincts kicking in, 100%.

You know, before I let you out of here, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind, you know, I started doing my little bit of digging on you and everything else. You used to play in a band. Like that's basically where you get all your acumen for songs and creativity and all that stuff. Yeah, I used to like play music when I was younger. Right at a high school, I was in a punk rock band. So we did pretty well. We were on the war tour for a few years. We had some major opening.

We opened up for some major bands, Blink 1-A2, Sun 41, the U's taking back Sunday, the transplants, ill scarlet. We were just, I was just a kid with a Mohawk, and we had a couple cool tunes, and we had one song that made the Christmas album for the Taste of Chaos album, and it was on much music, so it got hundreds of spins for her Christmas, and we had a little taste of fame in our community. This is going back to 22. years ago. Well, when you rattle off

all those bands, I can't know who that is, and that is. You haven't hit, yeah, anyways. So that's kind of, yeah, that was my little taste of you know, being in the limelight and speaking to people. And a lot of my stage presence when I was younger was

funny. I would usually wear a thong or a speedo and run around with a bow tie on. Like I was, you know, your typical 2000s punk band, you know, running around like an idiot, basically. It's before cell phone, so I wasn't recording myself that much. But I mean, people know me on the Warp Tour.

I had a pretty good presence in the punk scene for the 90s and 2000s. And kind of dissipated once we had kids. And I just kind of, that's why I started doing the music again with the roofing community because I kind of like a weird Al Yankovic make fun of the community with roofing songs. And that's how the best damn roofie got started. But yeah, I've always been into music and love performing and art and everything else that falls under that category. Yeah, well, it's, I go back to when I watch the video of you and your wife at the roofing conference.

And you just said you have to, you know, you were talking about social media and how you separate yourself and leaning on your past experiences. Yeah, because like it's you got a very creative, you've somehow found a way to link music, comedy. And then people are calling you kind of like the new trailer park boys, you know, and it's kind of funny when I watch. I'm like, yeah, that actually isn't that far off, you know. And if you're in the world that loved the trailer park boys, you know, that was a real niche world, you know? Like, I mean, yeah, oh, yeah, loved it. When you, when you finally hung it up, was that a tough choice on the music tour scene? I mean, like, you get a taste of that.

Did you think, man, did you stick with it? Yeah, like, I mean, I dropped out earlier. The band kept going, but I think I was. I had a child on the way. It was kind of something you're not going to sit there and try to be in bars and play music and do that. You got a responsibility. It was being a dad. So it wasn't really hung up on it.

It was like just what you do. The way I was raised, like you're not going to go play punk music when you got a fucking kid. Dad would have a size 12 work boot up your ass. You know, you got a job to do boy. That's how I was raised. You know, that's still cool to hear though because I mean, there's a lot of people that probably still keep playing. Oh, I still close just so I got someone's coming in the front door. Oh, my dad's here.

The maker's here. Well, I appreciate you giving me some time. Here's one final one before I let you go so you can hang out with your dad. It's a crewmaster final question. If you're going to stand behind a cause, then stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing, the best damn room for stands behind? Going to work every day. Get to work.

That's what he says. Maybe you're hungover, you're broke, your wife's cheating on you, whatever it may be. Get the fuck out of bed and get an honest day's work because then you get an honest sleep. Thanks for giving me some time this morning, Josh. Appreciate it. And, well, I'm not sure where our paths cross again, but if I've learned anything from this podcast, chances are they will. Awesome, buddy. God bless you.

It was a pleasure. Thanks for having me on.