Shaun Newman Podcast - #374 - Tish Conlin

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

She is a business owner, author, a registered holistic nutritionist and host of the Tish Talk podcast.  Tish also is the first woman in Canada to get her black belt in Shoot Wrestling and was the PPC Candidate for Durham in the 2021 federal election.  Sylvan Lake February 4th Tickets/More info here: https://intentionallivingwithmeg.com/sovereignty Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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com.com. She's a business owner, author, speaker, registered, holistic nutritionist, and the host of the Tish Talk podcast. I'm talking about Tish Conlon. So buckle up. Here we go.

This is Tish Conlin, and you are listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Tish Conlon. So first off, Tish, thanks for hopping on. Yeah, my pleasure. Happy to be here. Well, it's been, for the listener on this side,

we've done it with Drew Weatherhead, and certainly here in 2023, they're going to start to see this happen a few more times. I don't know how many times we'll do it here on the podcast, but it's the doubleheader. So me and Tish just had a little bit of a conversation on her side. And then, of course, bring her back on this side. There's a whole bunch of different content creators or podcasters, independent journalists here in Canada

that are doing things across the country that, you know, I didn't know who Tish was until Tish reaches out, right? And so you kind of just see where it goes. I've been open to it for a long time. So if somebody, if that catches somebody, you know, and you're like, oh, this person's in Canada, by all means, you've got the text line, shoot me a text. Either way, Tish, it's great to have you back on this side now. For the listener, I don't know where you want to start. I don't know how far you want to go back. But tell them a little bit about yourself and we'll jump in from there.

Yeah, no, thanks your thing, Sean. Yeah, so for people who don't know me, like Sean, I started a podcast, Tish Talk. and before that, you know, I spent a long career. I had a recruitment firm and talent solution agency, so I was to leadership development, over 20 years in the recruitment sector internationally, and then I became a keynote speaker on topics of health. For me, health is everything a driver.

So that's how I got involved in this whole, I guess you call it freedom movement, was my passion for human health. So I'm a registered holistic nutritionist. I'm a resilience coach. I wrote a book in 2015 on food and health and the connection to stress called ABCs of food, boost your energy confidence and success with the power of nutrition. And I guess even before that, I've always been a fighter for people and having to fight myself. I'm only five foot two.

But I was the first woman in Canada at my black belt in shoot wrestling. So I've always been feisty and a grappler of lots of stories throughout my life. and, you know, just called into fighting and standing up when I saw the government overreach and I decided to run the election. So I ran for PPC back in 2020, was it? 21 and 21. And, yeah, and I'm still the PPC candidate for Durham. So, I mean, for me, getting the message out and having conversations one at a time through podcasting is richly rewarding.

and I speak regularly at events and I do have a small detox clinic. And two wonderful teenage boys that I'm happy to have at home and with many, many debates on a regular basis. So that's my intro. Why a black belt and shoot, like it isn't like you got, you know, you just went for a class or two and enjoyed it. Like a black belt, I would assume, required some dedication, sticking with it, getting good at it, etc.

What was it about, like, I don't know, I assume it's a martial art. Yes, yeah. So what was it that attracted you? And then on top of that kept you going with it. What made you come back and go all the way to get a black belt? Yeah, I guess, I mean, it's maybe my personality, that sort of a driver in me, that, but I was a competitive gymnast growing up, so I was used to, you know, heavy training, hours of competing and, you know, like 20 hours at the gym.

So I'm used to really being disciplined about athletics. And then when I transitioned out of gymnastics and got into other sports, I was naturally acrobatic and naturally strong. And someone suggested I try out martial arts and I'd watched all the Bruce Lee movies and he was a big inspiration. I'm like, yeah, I want to do that. So the grappling component always came naturally to me. I don't know why.

I've always kind of been a wrestler and fighting, mostly boys when I was growing up. But yeah, I just took to it, and it did take 10 years. It's a very, it's comprehensive. You know, you learn all the systems. You learn kickboxing. You learn boxing as well as all the judo holds and then the juditsu. So the ground locks and holds, you know, like arm bars and headlocks and all that. So I learned the whole system, and I was the first woman in that discipline and loved it.

I don't train anymore, so it's something at some point I'd love to go back to. I've gotten into fat biking and mountain biking and a number of other things and cottaging and taking my kids to soccer. I still play soccer, but I love martial arts. And it also helps train your mind on the way of the warrior, right? I do consider myself kind of like the peaceful warrior in a way. You know, that's, that's, it's interesting because, you know, like, jujitsu in particular has become like a very popular thing, you know,

the rise of the UFC and everything that's entailed there. And then I just think, you know, even the show, you know, listeners are we called Drew Weatherhead. He's got his black belt and jujitsu and the multiple people who've come on that have started it and just rave about it. It's been a growing sport, you know, over the past decade, maybe longer. I, you know, somebody knows better than me. It's just, it's interesting.

And it, there's a ton of women getting involved in it too, which is also very interesting, right? Like a grappling, well, martial art. And, no, it's fascinating. When it comes to the body, you know, and the health and, you know, your background in that, What is some of the things you think most people don't understand, I guess, that overlook when it comes to our bodies and health? Oh, that's like a five-hour topic. I'll try to condense it down a few minutes. But when it comes to our health, I've taken, like, I always was interested.

And if you look in my house, I have hundreds of books. And since sort of 2020, when they're rolling out this pandemic, this whole. this whole thing and I started to really look at things and I I do acknowledge something was out there that harmed a lot of people so I'm not like a denier of things that happen my own cousin was a nurse in Flint Michigan and with the first wave of whatever was happening in 2020 he succumbed he passed away and he was only sick a few days and it got really bad and by the time he went to the hospital they did the things that don't work they probably gave him remdismere and put him on the ventilator and then that took his life. So there are things out there that can affect your health.

Is it, you know, is it through, we don't know exactly what it is, but your health is in your own hands is what I've really learned because what's outside can impact what's inside if what's inside is not harmonious. So if you have a really bad diet plus you're under stress, plus you don't sleep, all the factors, plus you're overweight, you're going to express. some sort of disease, some sort of problem physically. The other thing is your thoughts and emotions can really impact your physical being. And people are starting to see that conclusively, scientifically. So we're an integrated being. So we are holistic. So I do believe in holistic health. When someone comes to me and they have a problem, we usually talk about what's going on their life

emotionally too. Because emotional crap manifests physically, right? And it's all connected. So, you know, I have lots of tips for people. I go around talking about the great threats. So we've got stuff in our air, whether you want to call it chem trails or just, it's just happening naturally. We got terrible things in our soil like glyphosate and coming into our food. That's probably the biggest problem. The water is compromised. Some places still use fluoride, which is a neurotoxin affects your IQ as well, and was used for rat poisoning in the past. So we, you know, we've got all these systems plus we're being fed junk food. And on every corner of every small town in Canada, we're both Canadian,

you see vaping stores, you've got marijuana stores, you've got, you know, L-CBO, but you don't have a lot of vegetable stands. So the temptations are huge, you know, sugar mountain donuts, but we don't have the healthy choices. So if we take our health in our own hands, the biggest message to your audience is dramatic results can happen, even as short as weeks. And there is, it's not, there's a way to go about it that's incredibly powerful.

And I do talk about it a lot. I interviewed a lot of people on my podcast about different things that you can do to get the toxins of your body. The most important word I could tell your audience is detox. That's the critical thing. We got to, because there's so much shit in the air, maybe we might be in peak toxicity for humanity right now. Again, how do I know? Who knows what happened 100,000 years ago? But I think lots of toxins, but as, we're, we're.

We both said we have an incredible, miraculous body. So if you've got a lot of garbage coming in, as long as you can keep processing the garbage out, you're going to be fine. And so that's what we're wearing people down is we're getting these overloaded garbage cans, right? Just too much crap in it. And we haven't taken the garbage out. So you get in the habit of detoxing daily. And there are simple ways you can do that.

You know, I could go into a few things. Sure. No, yeah, absolutely. Don't worry about going long-winded. I'll interject if they say. Okay, good. Yeah, I get on tangents. If you like, I'll try to keep it short.

So simple things because people do get overloaded. If you're at ground zero and you're like, you know what? I've got no energy. I'm listening to the Sean Newman show. I want to change my life, but you don't know where to start. Get a bag of lemons. Limons are incredible power foods. So you half a lemon a day in Philadelphia.

Water. Tip number two, change your water. I mean, don't drink the tap water. The municipal water, and I think everywhere, is compromised. Between the drugs and if it's still fluoride, all that stuff's bad for you. Glyphosate, all these chemicals, get filtered water. If you invest in nothing else this month for your health, filtered water, so half a lemon and filtered water is already great. Sorry, Tish. Go ahead. What is it about lemons? Lemons. Okay, great question. So I had Dr. Robert O. Young on my podcast.

I was thrilled. He's the author of the Ph. Miracle series. And he's a holistic doctor. He's also got number of PhDs and does live cell microscopy as well. I always sort of talk to him. But he talks about how our systems need to be alkaline. When we have a more alkaline system, we can fight almost any disease. And so he has all these ways of doing it.

And lemons, an interesting point, are alkaline. So you think of fruits as being acidic. But lemons and grape fruits, particularly lemons are one of the only fruits that are actually, they burn alkaline in your body. So they help to keep our system stable. And with our sad diet, and it is truly sad, standard American diet, We have all these acid forming foods, and acid is inflammatory and it creates disease. So it's almost like if you change your diet and have a more alkaline diet,

you can eliminate things like diabetes. He shows this in all his case studies. And a lot of these chronic conditions, even change your gut floor and your gut bacteria, so you get more of the good guys. So a lot of the diseases, you've probably heard this, they're manifested in their inflammatory conditions. And the other thing is our bodies right now, they have so many harmful chemicals, and they're leaking in through our gut, through something called leaky gut syndrome. We all have it because this particularly glyphosate,

and I'm going to really attack that because we've got to get rid of it in agriculture. People might know it as round up, and a lot of people are savvy as to how harmful it is, but they spray it on the wheat and the corn under the guise. I don't even know why, but after they harvest it. So it's going in, creating wheat for us, and it's loaded with these toxins. So a lot of people myself, I don't eat, I'm gluten-free. And they say a lot of people in North America had gut issues, not so much in Europe because the regulations are different there.

They are much stricter. So, for example, I used to go to Paris, and I could eat as much bread as I wanted there. You go back here and you start getting wrenching gut pain. A lot of people believe it's from the glyphosate. So once you get leaky gut caused by whatever chemicals, but I think largely due to glyphosate, a lot of other things sneak in. And your stomach is your frontline defense against a lot of these pathogens,

whether they're bacterial or fungal or parasitic. So lemons are amazing for our systems. So, I mean, my tips are, you know, Alkaline foods. Another amazing power food are avocados. Alkaline full of great oils for people. If you can eat a whole bunch of those, at least one a day. And then exercise.

So shift your diet, get moving, and then detox. And detox, things like I have a little detox clinic, so infrared saunas helps to get all that crap out. we're loaded with heavy metals from childhood shots from from the air i mean sprayed in the air all different things so you need something that can bond can bind with these heavy metals and a great natural substance that binds with heavy metals is cilantro so um you know you could start you know using cilantro and foods they sell them as supplements as well but if you cover making your diet better, exercising and detoxing, you're going to feel so much better. That combined with sleeping, I mean, a lot of people have chronic insomnia as well. Well, you know, you bring up sleeping.

Once again, I apologize to all my listeners. I rehashed this story all the time, Tish. But I stumble, I threw it out to Kristen Nagel, and I'll throw it out to you as well. I need a bee person. I need somebody who deals with honey because I would love to have an hour. discussion on bees and I saw Joe Rogan had somebody on talking about it and for whatever reason I haven't gone and listened to it which maybe that's my bee person right there maybe I need to go after him anyways I was a light sleeper and at times I still am from time to time and then I bought some honey off of a guy I know who has a little bee farm and anyways put it in my tea one

night thought and I remember thinking this thinking this is a stupid idea I'm I'm giving myself sugar before bed. What a terrible idea. And then I slept so hard that night. I drooled all myself. Wow, that's amazing. And I woke up and I'm like, oh, I must have been really tired. I didn't think anything of it.

And the next night I did it again. And I drooled all over myself for a second straight now. And then I started digging into honey and its effects on the brain and how it's converted into melatonin and different things like that. And then you go down this rabbit hole of honey. and you realize that it's quite the, you know, I think you called Lemon Superfood, I think, or maybe somebody else told me.

Yeah, yes. And I've heard that honey is very similar. And then you get talking to all the old timers, the farmers, and they talk about all the different things that used to do with honey, and then the old ladies would always go, but nobody listens to us anymore with a big smile. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm seeing it, right? Yeah.

And so, you know, when you talk about sleep, certainly some of it's self-imposed by you know staring at your phone or lots of different things where you know or maybe you got a TV in the bedroom I mean these you know these little things add up to uh to lack of sleep right um we have lots of distractions but there are things that uh you don't need a sleeping pill in my opinion go take a get a get some tea and put a little a little bit of honey in it oh yeah and not the store-bought junk no i'm talking like the actual honey that is just that yeah and anyways uh well to me that's something i stumbled upon i rave about it all the time i have no idea if anyone's ever used that yeah and there's you know what

that's just one like gem and um you know two two things one to do with sleep and then just the history of natural remedies but first was sleep um going back to gut health did you know that like a huge number um i don't know the percentage um of neurotransmitters are created in our gut They're not created in our brain. People don't believe that. So those feel-good happy hormones, you know, like serotonin, dopamine, they're created in your gut. And when your gut is not functioning properly,

you actually are, a lot of people can't sleep because serotonin is a precursor to melatonin. So you see how the body is connected. And the amazing brilliance of our body, so heal your gut, heal your brain, heal your sleep. And yeah, I mean, people who are working on their gut but still not sleeping can take a melatonin. I take melatonin myself. I've, you know, I also recommend before bed taking a high-quality magnesium because magnesium really helps with sleep.

And it's a natural, you know, mineral. Minerals are calming in general. She should take them at night. Take your vitamins in the morning is a tip. Don't take them at night. All those B vitamins are energizing. So you take magnesium at night. It's responsible for over 200 biochemical functions in your body, and it helps you sleep.

It's just amazingly good for you. Most people are deficient because not only is there not enough magnesium in our vegetables and our foods, you know, transport over long distances. There's not enough nutrients in the soil, et cetera, et cetera. You don't eat enough. So those two things alone, combined with a little bit of honey in your drink, you should do wonders for slave. And look it, when you're cramines,

When you haven't had enough sleep, it's hard to manage everything. It's hard to be happy. You know, get cranky, right? So sleep is hugely significant for our health. And plus things in your body get repaired while you're sleeping. So all of the cellular breakdown and everything, and all detoxification occurs at night. So you really have to get a good sleep. They say seven to nine hours is critical.

And anyone who's deceiving themselves, oh, I can get by and four. five or six, look at these great people throughout history. A lot of them got dementia because your body just can't handle lack of sleep over years and years. So you've got to get sleep. What was when, you know, on your journey, you mentioned being a gymnast and then, you know, and kind of going through the sporting world that way. But what point did you stumble into or maybe just step right into?

nutrition and health and and starting to look at like natural ways. Was there something that just like snapped in your brain like a little quick snap? Or was it something that your parents instilled in you? How did you, how did you venture into this? Oh, man. Well, I mean, I was, you know, because I was a fit as a gymnast, I always, but I started experiencing food allergies in high school. And I think that's when they started spraying the wheat quite honestly.

and I just debilitating pains and brain fog and all this these classic signs. I used to keep a food journal and I was fascinated by food, even though I didn't eat that well. You know, it was back in the day and I'm dating myself. You know, Eminem muffins would be my lunch with white bun with processed cheese, you know. But I already knew something was off and I did get a scholarship to become a food scientist. So I thought I'd go into that. Luckily, I didn't. I end up getting an arts degree, but that's another story.

the passion of mine for communication. But as I went through life, I started reading more and more about how broken the system was. And it wasn't until I got married and my husband got really ill. He developed rheumatoid arthritis. And he and I started going down different paths because he went down the allopathic path with more drugs and more drugs. And he was getting sicker and sicker. And I started researching more and more about natural treatment. and I noticed when I'd give him natural things like barley grass, he would do better.

But we had this gap and I was so frustrated that I decided to go back to school. And that's when I'd had a university degree, but I went back and went to college to become a holistic nutritionist. And I was so passionate because he was frustrating me. He wasn't listening that I wrote my book very quick. It took me two years, but I really wanted to reach people and it became kind of like a life mission. And so I started speaking at recruitment events in my industry about health, and I became like the health expert for high-performing recruiters. That was a little niche of mine.

And I just got more and more involved in the food movement and from an agricultural standpoint and the toxic chemicals and GMO foods and how the lie behind them that they don't have higher yields and they actually are quite toxic to humans and very, very bad for the farmers trying to grow them, particularly in places like Africa, when they have seed patents and things like that. So I just went progressively more in that direction. And I've gone even further since COVID began in 2020,

learning about the upside of all these natural remedies, how effective they can be. Plus, some of these technologies that aren't mainstream because they've been repressed deliberately. the Rockefeller system has slandered a lot of these natural treatments. So it started, you know, it's been over 100 years this has been happening. They kind of hijacked mainstream medical education. And doctors today, they don't take a Hippocratic Oath anymore, and they don't learn about nutrition.

I think it's like one hour course or, you know, a few sessions on it. So they aren't learning integrated medicine anymore. more and more people are breaking with that system, and I interviewed Sarah from Canadian frontline nurses. Oh, Sarah, your last name, I can't pronounce it, Shoo, Shudurin, something like that. Anyways, a Kristen Nagel's partner, wonderful lady. Right, right. And I actually did some training with the front, with them. I did a webinar on some of these new technologies.

So, I mean, the message is actually quite exciting for people, is that when we take personal responsibility for health, when we start to realize what they say and the reality is very different. Safe and effective isn't necessarily true. But some of these so-called quack things like honey are actually incredibly good for our bodies. And when we go back to a system where we use mostly natural remedies, and there is a place for integrated medicine and allopathic care as well, I believe that. We are going to be so much healthier and happier, collectively, every single person.

You know, we have an obesity epidemic. We have people who are so depressed that instead of putting nutrients in their body, they turn to alcohol or drugs. You know, we got drug addiction, fentanyl issues, you know, so many issues because people become hopeless when they aren't healthy as well. So the mind and the body are connected. When your physical body is unhealthy, you know, you're going to have mental, emotional issues as well. They're connected.

If you don't nourish your body properly, you're going to be low. You're going to be depressed. So, I mean, it is a holistic system, and that's what we're coming to. And we're realizing beyond ourselves, the frequency or the energy of other people affect us, too. And then we're looking at things like the technologies affect us. So being in close proximity to EMF, we are electromagnetic beams. So this is sort of the next phase of where people, people are learning that we are truly, you know, we're spiritual people, but we're electromagnetic.

And that means, you know, you can go into a room and have a gut feel. That's you sense other people's frequency. So you resonate your own frequency. You're affected by everything. And food has a frequency. And isn't, sorry, that right there is interesting to me. Because I think we've all, like, I don't know where other people's heads go, but I think we've all walked into a room.

Mm-hmm. And then had a gut sensation of like, oh, this is where, yeah, I'm supposed to, and I'm, you know, and we've all walked into the opposite room where you're like, I don't know if I want to be here. Mm-hmm. I think that's such a distinct experience everybody's had before, where you walk in and you're like, yeah, I'm in the right spot or not. The complete opposite. I just, to me, that sticks out. I've, I've had both those experiences before. I don't know if I've really ever sat and contemplated both of them before.

Yeah, and it's a brilliant comment because when you think of it, we take this for granted. It's sort of unconscious to us, but we are constantly either sending out messages that attract or repulse, others even, just our movement. You know, you just walk into a room. You know, you can walk over to a party, look someone in the eye and know that you want to talk to that person

or know that you don't want to talk to that person. So, I mean, but this is the future of medicine. I'm part of certain groups here in my community. We talk about some of these new frequency healing. There's Dr. Rife. And if your audience doesn't know his story, he was a man in turn of the century, like I think 1920, just, you know, in the round there.

He found a technology, found that every pathogen has a certain frequency. And then he developed this tool that could attack just that pathogen and nothing else. And he went and he in and he cured like terminally ill cancer patients. And that was like in the 1920s, late 20s or early 30s. And in the beginning, people were like, wow. And they wanted to get it into hospitals. But then the American Medical Association came in and shut them down. Because when you think of it, they make a lot of money off of drug treatments.

and, you know, things like chemotherapy. But the downside of chemotherapy, there's huge downsides, but it kills a lot of cells. So, you know, some people die from that. It's radiation. But with this technology, Dr. Rife was going in and just taking out the pathogen. So just think he was threatened and slandered and ended up kind of penniless, but he never gave up his patents.

And it's become an underground movement. And people still today, it's becoming. more widely accepted, I believe things like Rife and other frequency healing devices will become mainstream in the future. That's my prediction. You know, in every home. You know, even Jason Shurka,

who wrote the book about energy, he's promoting some of these precursors to what he calls a medbed, these energy healing cubes and scalar technology. These new types of energy and frequency healing are very real. And I've seen some

them myself. I've seen what they can do. So, you know, even Rife can can totally treat someone with Lyme disease. I've had people come to me with debilitating symptoms. And so a lot of these things that build up in your body, like a viral load, like you can say you can actually analyze how much you have in your body and then using something like frequency healing, you can attack that, that sort of build up and knock it back down so it doesn't express, you know, epigenetically. So, I mean, I think the future is very exciting for health. People are waking up that you can't just hand over your health sovereignty to governments or big pharma. They want to make a profit.

Now, do they want you to be healthy? Is that going to be good for their cash flow and their profits? Better to have a sick customer. So take control of your own health. You know, use natural remedies. Try to get yourself off the drugs as much as possible. The prescription drugs, some of them are needed. So I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to say that.

But there are incredible things you can do to maximize your health. Like here, I'm not a spring chicken, but generally I'm out, you know, constantly working out. I mean, I might spend an hour on my fat bike, and then that's not enough for me. So I'll go cross-country skiing right after, you know, because I love to get a really great workout, preferably in nature. And, you know, just the healing aspects of being outside in nature in the forest are huge. You know, it's interesting to me. I agree with so much what you said, and yet I'm laughing at myself because when you talk about these frequencies and how you can heal and things like that, I must be a guy

who's a bit skeptical because I sit and I go, but in saying that. No, that's fine. I love it. Well, I sit and I go, I laugh at myself as I say that because I was like, yeah, but, you know, one of the best things ever did was, and I'm. by no means perfect at this. But I, you know, I had issues with my body probably, like, you know, geez, what was that?

Probably five years ago, four years ago. So I did a, I did a food journal just to see what I was putting in. And then you start to realize, and I, oh, and then if you start to just twist and turn that a little bit, you can literally physically feel the changes, right? Some of its appearance or some is just how you feel. Like, I mean, that's the whole point of it. And then I talk my story with honey in particular. and I know that experience is something like I just you know I will never forget like it was just it was just wild to me so I'm a huge purport of that and then you start talking frequencies and it's probably just something I've never experienced so I hear it and I'm like that seems a little out there it seems like almost too good to be true you know yeah and yet and yet I say all that tish and I go and yet we've all lived through what we've lived through and you go like hmm

you know like what else have i missed and so i'm curious about it well what i've learned in the last years a lot of the the solutions we're all getting complicated and has to be oh and then you're like a lot of it it's simple it's simple we're electromagnetic beings and we are um all you know our hearts actually have more neurotransmitters than our brain like we we we are magnets you know and you can draw things in with your food, with your thoughts, with your feelings, your physically. They have measured the human energy field. It's a real thing too. So, I mean, when you think of yourself as an energetic being, I mean, this is, of course, we can become spiritual. I am a Christian, right, that we're souls having a human experience.

But even if you're an atheist or an egg, whatever, we don't have to, we don't have to, like, divide because I'm trying to unite, but we're all, like, energetic beings. and it's empowering really that you can enhance your energy, you know. You know, when you say your household with two boys has an interesting conversations, I'm like, I can just imagine now. Oh, yeah, yeah. When you talk about being magnets, okay, so I'm envisioning that I can attract what I want. I hope I'm getting this right.

So I can attract what I want if I put my mind in the right place, I assume. have you have you been able to accomplish that have you have you had those experiences where you're you're wanting to attract i don't know i i guess i maybe i should just ask you to explain this to me yeah you know what and i'm happy to i mean because i've done a lot of research into this because i started okay i started down the path of nutrition to help my husband and he did pass away uh so you know he's uh that i think of him as an angel now with my kids and he has an incredible man he was He had a genius IQ, but he was also like the funniest man. Like he could have been on your podcast.

He had a photographic memory so he could pull up trivia and he had a beautiful singing voice. So, you know, I think of him now as an angel. I lost him. He never bought into believing that his body could heal. So it does start with your belief systems. And Joe Dispenza has done some incredible work in one of his books. called You Are the Placebo. He did all of these things where they would give people a fake pill, for example, but they told them this is going to heal you from cancer. And just the studies on

human beings, if we believe something powerfully, unbelievable things happen. So they would get, they would get cured, even with like a sugar pill. And then there's also the work by Jose Silva. And he wrote about the ultra, I forget the system, you the healer, it was his book, but he talked about how if you can get yourself into this meditative state, so you get rid of the anxiety, calm your mind, and then you can visualize what you want in a certain visualization pattern. He did incredible work on making things happen, changing people's performance, IQ, healing them. And he was a radio engineer, not some like flaky, you know, astrological person. He was a radio engineer, so he did it scientifically.

But what Joe has done, you need to get yourself in this theta state so you can't be in beta. You can't be panicked. You got to be really relaxed. You send yourself what he calls mind movies. And he does this in workshops around the world. You practice these mind movies, what your destination is, how you're going to feel. So you have to reinforce the feeling. So what it is, you want success, you want a million dollars, you want the love of your life.

You practice visualizing, hopefully in a meditated. state over time, like 20 minutes a day, and people are achieving all these mind movies. So I did practice this for, I still practice it today. I do at night, I do a meditative 20-minute app on my phone. It's free. All to do visualizing what I'd like in the future. So I've seen it work incredibly in my life. Well, I know from an athlete's background, you know, all growing up playing hockey,

They always really pushed on visualization. Yes. You know, if you believe you're going to win or how you're going to do it, break it down into, you know, the game, then each shift, period, etc. And certain people have had really good experiences with that. Others, maybe not so much. Yeah. I find it interesting, you know, like one of the things I do at the start of a year,

and I learned this from the first, well, maybe it was his idea. I can't remember now. Anyways, Ken was the first podcast guest, and in the book club we talked about, you know, should just write down your goals for a year. You should just write them down. At least they're physically there. Yes. Even if you forget about them, you should come back at the end and take a look at what they

were. And so I was like, all right, sir. So, you know, if I go back to when I first started the podcast, my goal was to be full time five years in and I got there in three years or three in three in change. There's a list of guests that I would love to have that's just sitting there. And slowly, some of them are like, you know, don't get me wrong. Maybe they're maybe they'll take a decade to achieve, you know, I never know. But I'm not going to say I can't because I'm not putting that that out there.

but you know even even i got a list on my phone um from uh from get uh sorry from listeners suggesting and it's i put a little green check mark every time i get one of them one of them was premier daniel smith that was that was yeah it's huge coup i'd love to have her on my show that's amazing and and so you just kind of you anyways for me writing down goals and putting that oh there cementing it you don't have to it's not like some people say you got to stare at it all the time Maybe you do. For me, it hasn't been that experience. For me, it's like you write it down and that thought process of putting pen to paper and being like, this is what I want. I've thought about it. I've done it with my wife. Me and Mel have done it when it comes to goals for

not just our careers, our kids, but also like, I'm forgetting the word we used. I'm going to say love life, but that's not what it was. Relationship. Relationship. Thank you. Yes. Yes. You know, and it's funny how often now when it comes to our anniversaries, we had put things down on a car trip to Eminton. I can remember exactly when we did it. And now when we talk about our 10 year anniversary, which is coming in a couple of years, we know what we're supposed to be doing. Yes. And it's hard to, it's hard to talk around that when we know what we're supposed to be doing. You know, it's interesting.

Yeah, you bring up, like, it's so important to get your thoughts out of your head. So, I mean, and even just to quote Joe De Silva again, because he said, you can, like, you say your life is crap right now, right? Say you're listening and maybe you lost your job or, I don't know, maybe you broke up with someone, you know, things aren't going well. You can shift out of all of that. So what the formula is you can change your personality too. So he says that your personality, and people think this is fixed, that's not true, you know, I'm a different person than I was a few years ago. But your personality is just your personal reality and your personal worldviews. And we've seen that more than anything the last years.

And that's made up of your thoughts, your feelings, and your actions. So when you practice meditation or journaling or your goal writing, you're changing your thoughts. You're getting the negative mindset like, I'll never make it. You know, I'm never going to get a job. All that crap. And when you start consistently working on it and you replace those toxic negative, never, I'll never make it thoughts with maybe I can, maybe I can do it, or I'm going to try, here's what I want, it changes your emotions and then you start taking the action steps over a period

of time, you know, and anything can happen, amazing things. And it's not going to be without its hurdles, anything that you want to accomplish will always have setbacks and challenges and can take longer and you think, but you keep at it, you can get there. So putting it on paper is one of the powerful ways to do that. And it's amazing how many people don't write things down. I've always been a huge goal person and writing things down. And when I was coaching people, performance coaching for recruiters and other people, write it down. And it's amazing. Write it down weekly, monthly, and annually. And then track it. Track it. Track how you're doing. And if you're doing well, give yourself like a pat in the back. And if you're not doing well, do a like, hey, why didn't I

get there this month? You can say, you know what? I got caught up in this. negative mindset for a while or you know I had to do this or just analyze it and coach yourself and it's it's incredible and it's powerful really simple things work simple dietary things work simple things like just getting out there and moving you know walking around the block one i'd say if you walk around the block for like 35 40 minutes a day you can lower your chance of heart disease by like 68 percent i mean just powerful stuff like that it does It doesn't have to be rocket science. Yeah.

It's, it's, I talk about, um, on my side of things, I think of a lot of things is confidence. You know, when I first started the podcast, I would have told you, I don't have, I don't think I'm ready for, uh, at that time, it would have been Don Cherry. I'm not ready for Don Cherry. I'm just, I just started. I just want to get my feet wet. Give me a couple easy conversations or whatever, you know, I said back then. And, uh, so.

for me, um, it's all about building confidence. Just little piece by little piece by little piece. And if you fixate on it, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll,

you'll, you probably destroy some of your confidence because you think, uh, it was only that little bit and I wish it was this much. I wish I had that much confidence. But if you just start to like piece together your confidence, piece by piece by piece, at some point you're going to look back and go,

holy crap, how did I get way up here? Uh, I mean, I'm still shooting for the stars, but like, And then that starts to build, and then you can build higher and faster because you set the foundation in order. And what I'm alluding to on my end was, you know, listeners got to hear in 2022, I hit a million downloads on the podcast.

So that's Spotify, that's Apple, that is not social media. That is strictly people searching out the podcast and downloading it. And lots of people wonder. And I don't know what you do on your side, Tish, but I don't stare at the numbers like ever. I find I get, it stresses me out if the numbers aren't constantly rocketing to the moon. I'm like, am I doing something wrong? Am I doing it?

So what I do is, you know, usually I have a check-in once a month just to see where I'm at. Okay. And I don't hang my worth on the number. I just, I mentally check in and I go, oh, okay. I have the phone line connected. That way I have a feel for what the other. audience is talking about and everything else they kind of direct part of the ship that is the Sean Newman podcast right their suggestions constantly coming in and I

allow them to you know kind of guide where this is journey is gone and saying that this past November I hit a million and it was one of those moments I don't do this very often you know in my life it's there's multiple times I've done it where you kind of just step step back and look and go, holy crap, I think we better enjoy this one moment here for a few minutes. Oh, yeah. Because your head's down and you're grinding and you're working and you're trying to get things better and you're learning about your body and you're, you know, all these different things

that people do and including myself. And you need to be consistent in both those things. But every once in a while, you've got to take a step back. For some people that in the beginning, maybe that's every week, month. I remember when I checked my numbers weekly, then monthly, and I'm going to, you know, I eventually am going to get to a point in time. I'm sure where I'm like, I'm just going to check it every year. You know, like, to me, and some analytical guy is going to say I'm a moron,

and maybe I just need to hire an like a guy that loves focusing on that, but to me, I don't like it. And it's done my mental health, my confidence, a world of good. And saying all that, I'm long-winded here. I just, I think, yeah, going back to all of that, I've come almost full circle and talking over myself. No, yeah. No, congratulations. That's phenomenal.

I mean, I just started podcasting. I can't, like, like less than, I don't know, like eight months ago or seven. I don't know. Sometimes maybe April. I can't remember March, April of last year, just kind of half-heartedly. And then I started gaining steam in the fall. I wasn't sure if there was going to be another election. So it was like, well, how can I reach people?

have deep dialogues because I'm more of a deep dialogue person, long dialogues. I have a hard time doing a five minute video. It's like, ah, I have so much to say. So I really like the long format. Plus I've met amazing people. So yeah, for me, it just kind of got going in the fall. And I love it. Yeah, I intend to do, for me, two podcasts a week.

Maxine Bernier is coming on my show, hopefully this Thursday. That's exciting. Yeah, push talk. I'm on, yeah, so I'm Spotify and Apple as well. Rumble and Bitchute. Rumble is Thrive with Tish, Bitschutes Tish talk. Maxime will be a fun conversation. Let me ask you this, Tish.

Who would you, if Tish was the, I don't know, the Joe Rogan of the world. Yeah, that was my inspiration to be the Joe Rogan of Canada. There you go. You and he both. Who would you, who's the person you want to sit down with? Like, who's, like, I would, you know, like. Yeah, I actually had it, like, originally, when I said, I just kind of have to start a podcast. In my mind, I always wanted to sit down with Joe Rogan, because, like, he's the pinnacle, right? I mean, I wanted to be on his show, where not on mine, I'd be on his show. But I enjoy, he's a martial artist. We have that in common. And I see how he tries to unify the left and the right, which I like to do. You know, people put me in a box, which wasn't true. Like, okay, you join the people. PPC, you're a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

Okay, you're a holistic nutrition. You're a left-wing nut job, right? Oh, you're a business owner. You're a capitalist, you know? I mean, I reject all these labels. So I like Joe and I like some of his formats. So probably, probably Joe Rogan. If I could get on his show, I'd feel like, hey, that'd be amazing.

That would be a huge accomplishment. So you would like to be on his show. Yes. Joe, I'd like to be on your show. Yeah, exactly. In the pinnacle of success, from hosting side, though, is Joe your, is Joe your jewel? Yeah. No, actually not.

I mean, I don't. Because those are two, in my opinion, very different questions. Yeah, you know what? That's an amazing question. And who would I want on my show? I'm not sure. It depends where things go politically in the next little while. I'm going to have to think about that because I always knew I wanted to be on Joe's show, but who would I want on my show? Yeah, who would you want? Who would be the pinnacle for you? Well, I have multiple different pinnacles, right? Where I think, like, they're crown jewels, you know, where I'm like, man, like, wow. Once upon a time, Don Cherry was, was like top 10. I never thought I'd get them. And then, you know, I got Don. My background's hockey.

I would love to have my favorite player of all time, Stevie Y, Steve Eisman on, because of the way he continues to conduct himself. His story is like there's qualities there in a story that I think would just be like fascinating to listen to. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Bobby Orr is a friend of the family. I mean, not my side, but my late husband's side. And I just have to tell a hockey story because since I didn't realize you're such a hockey guy, I should have realized with the shirts there. But when my husband and I, we got married, his family's really big in GM.

Bobby Orr was one of their big guys. And when we got married, it was really fortunate. My husband and I bought the dealership in our local town. And so we had the grand opening, and Bobby Orr showed up in our little town. It was such a huge event. He was going to stay for like two hours, I think at the most, and this was already generous and kind.

There was a lineup that went down one of the main streets for like miles. He ended up staying there, I think it was eight hours. Like it ended up being until like late at night. And that guy, he signed everybody's whatever it was they had. And he had a kind word for everyone. He never rushed anyone. I was like, you truly are a great, classy guy. And I said, you know what?

he were always my number one, Bobby. He loved that, you know, the war between Gretzky. But what a classy guy, you know. It just goes down that in memory of him. Well, I mean, Bobby Orr, certainly Kail McCar, you know, geez, it's been a while since I talked a little sports on here, folks. Cail McCar, in my eyes, maybe one of the best defensemen of all time. I mean, he just, you know, he won the Norris and everything else.

He's fantastic to watch. But the stories, I've interviewed all these old-timers who played against him, played with them, everything. And they just said he was in a completely different league. They talked about Bobby just being able to do things on the ice that no man has ever been able to recreate. Now, that's a different era, blah, blah, blah. You kind of get the point. But Bobby would be a fun conversation as well. I mean, the stories that man would have.

You know, I want to make sure I put this out to the universe yet again. Because one of the two goals I had in 2022, and this is why my mind now has changed. You set more than two goals. One was to go full-time check. My second is probably the crown jewel. I'd love to have. He's the reason I started the podcast was Jordan Peterson. Oh, yes.

I'd love to interview him as well. Yeah. Absolutely. To me, there's a lot of different people I'd love to have on here. I've always said, I don't want to be Joe. I want to be Sean. I just want the ability to, when I reach out to whoever. it is, they want to come on because they understand the value and, and who knows, maybe

the way my brain works or whatever it is, the reach, everything else. But that takes time, you know, like, Joe has been going out at a long time. I mean, look at how many episodes he's up to. And the cast of characters he's assembled on there, that's, that's a lot of hard work, dedication, time, et cetera, et cetera, some breaks, a little bit of luck mixed in there, you know yeah and uh certainly that's where i i eventually folks hopefully eventually we keep working at it maybe we'll get there yeah no i'd love to interview jordan pears and i realize that when i i've always been kind of i'd ready to talk to anyone i mean i interviewed for a living for

decades right so i'm comfortable interviewing and conversing and i grew up in a family that debated i actually encouraged debates because it's more fun for the audience you know one of my um one of the guys who came on a show, he's adamantly against Trump. And I'm not like Q and on, but I thought I read the list of the things he's accomplished. He's done a lot for the country. I'm kind of pro-Trump. So we had a debate and they love that too. So, yeah, I mean, I learned that when, you know, you approach someone, you don't have enough subscribers,

that that's a certain marker. Like, oh, how many subscribers do you have? So, yeah, you have to chip away at it. And over time, I think organically it builds. I was at an event the other night and then someone came up to me. This was the first time he said, oh, you're a tish talk. So I'm like, yeah, that felt really good. So that was my own little milestone after a few months.

And they said, I loved what you do and I love your guess. So that, you know, that's the reason you do. It makes you feel great. And, you know, these longer conversations, it's what people are thinking and they don't feel alone. You know, we talked on my show about relationships and how a lot of them have broken down. and you know that's a sad sad thing that's going on and a lot of people are struggling with that so when you have an open dialogue people don't feel so alone in their own struggles

when they know some other people are struggling too with loneliness and sadness and you know the uncertainty of partnership and then you know and then it brings up the topic you said about every partnership needs to be nourished it doesn't matter if you know if even when you're in one you can't take it for granted it. So I love these conversations. Yeah. And I mean, I know Theo Fleury is a hockey player. I don't know if you've had him on your show because he's in the freedom movement. Yeah, I've certainly had Theo on a few times. I've been on stage with Theo when they unveiled their Canaan's for Truth.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's, they're actually, um, I, yeah, I've interviewed, I've interviewed, yeah, I've interviewed them. a really great group, you know. Well, once again, there's a whole cast of characters. I call those characters across Canada, you know, as they keep stumbling into them, that are in the independent media movement, you know, some bigger than others, some just starting out,

some further along, some, you know, and you just keep trying to dust them off. That's, you know, when you reached out, Tish, I was like, here's a you know like I get so caught up in trying to pay attention to you know everything going on in Canada and then I'm trying to put out episodes and stuff you kind of lose track of who's who's who and everything else so it's it's fun when listeners pass along different ideas sometimes you can get to them sometimes you forget all about them and and then come all the way full circle

down down the down the line but either way it's it's it's been cool to I to I to I don't know, stumble into all of you. Because once again, like in the middle of COVID, I think we all thought we were going insane for a bit. You know, like what is going on? Oh, yeah. And certainly different shows help different people at different times. And as we start to collide, it's starting to bring together these groups of little islands

that thought they were kind of all alone, you know, and realizing, you know, like Ottawa was that. It was all these different people melding together going, holy crap. didn't realize you were sitting there all this time, right? Because we get stuck in our worlds and don't realize. Well, and I mean, the news ain't talking about it. Like, the news is talking about a whole lot of other things. You know, as you were saying this, I was just sort of trying to like haphazardly glance at my phone

because I interviewed and I just have this like you. My brain has just forgotten his name with Canadians for truth. It's driving me not so. Joseph Bordeaux. Joseph Bordeaux. So, Bordeaux, what a great guy. And we had an amazing conversation on my podcast. And that's like another gift is meeting people.

And having this forum where you can have a long, deep conversation without all the distractions. You know, you're at a party. You can really only get five or ten minutes. And it's like, oh, okay, we'll see you later. But, you know, to exchange, to meet, not only meet people, you wouldn't have met before, but then having the chance to really converse, I think this is healing for us. like really talk about things. And I really enjoyed Joseph.

He's got a lot of great ideas for the country too. Another great Canadian, for sure. Yeah, well, he first, thanks for reminding me. Sorry, Joseph. I was just having that brain freeze. And the more you're talking, I'm going, oh, it's going to bug me.

I don't want to ask you. I was trying to look it up discreetly. I'm like, you know, I'm just going to ask. Joseph was on the show with Theo when he was running for a conservative leadership. Obviously, people will recall that, you know, they disqualified them for, you know, not enough signatures or whatever.

I can't, honestly. Ridiculous. It's a long time ago now. Yeah. You know, it's, uh, uh, I'm actually kind of interested now maybe to go listen to your guys' conversation because the first time I met Joseph was in,

I want to say the summer of 2020, maybe, or maybe it was the summer 2021. I can't remember now. Um, but he was talking about, his struggles with health and the mercury poisoning. Oh, yeah. You know, like there's all these things sitting out there around us that, you know,

at times you pay attention to. And other times, you know, it's almost like you don't realize it's happening, right? Because you're so busy. Our society is just go, go, go. And I've kind of created it for myself on the podcast with having as many as I, do is it's constantly go go go and when you get those opportunities to to slow down and sit and have a conversation and certainly the podcast is exactly that although we both can agree if this was in person over a cup of coffee or what have you the uh it would be that much better and if you can

and if you can do that in your community um and sometimes it comes to you other times you got to go search it out yeah you have those conversations like for me some people you know they it's draining and really need to recharge after something like that for me it's like putting putting a battery man let's go let's get to work let's let's move right and uh for for you know COVID what was taken from all of us at least for my side of it right all these conversations um they did start happening but they had to they had to happen closed doors and secretive and all the things that take all the fun out of it. Yeah, exactly.

I thought one person I'd love to have on my podcast is Robert Kennedy Jr. And I had the opportunity to meet him. And I had a couple of chats with him. I got a picture of him on some of my social media. I felt overwhelmingly like I had to meet him. And so I drove to Tennessee with a couple of girlfriends for their children's health defense conference. conference they were having. And one of his stories,

you mentioned Mercury with Robert Burgos because we talked about that too, mercury poisoning. Did you, I got to ask, did I hate to cut people off? That's okay. Did you, when you drove there,

were you doing the podcast? I should have, but you see, it would have been a great thing because we got across the board. How would you have turned you down? I literally just drove here. Would you come on for 20 minutes?

I didn't even ask him because this was like I just started. It's that confidence. And I kick myself. I should have to start. I'm going to ask him. Here's a story for you, Tish, okay? I'm curious your thoughts on this.

And then we're going to go back to Robert Kennedy Jr. I apologize. No, no, I love it. You believe me, I used, like I have a way of conversing, you know, sometimes just like, oh, oh, oh, oh. So it's okay to jump in. It shows we're interested. I don't mind at all. I flew with my family.

This is 2019, beginning of 2020. I think it was like January 2020. It was well before lockdowns or just before lockdowns to say well before. Paul Bissanette, he's on spitting chicklets. He's like larger than life in the hockey world, right? And in podcasts and everything else. So we fly to Arizona. And listeners like, you should get Paul Bissonette on.

And I was like, yeah, I should get Paul Bissanet on, right? Like, I'm like, this is episode, I think he was on episode 64. So I'm at like episode 62 at the time. No confidence to approach anyone. Yeah. Anyways. So one of the kids that plays for ASU down there is from Lloyd. So reached out to him, got us to the game.

Great, going to go watch a hockey game with my brother-in-law. And, you know, I'm just, I'm not thinking about Paul Bissinet. Or if I am, I'm like, in the back of my head, I'm like, he may frequent the game. That's what I've been told. So I'm sitting there with my brother-in-law in the family section because we got tickets from a guy who's on the team in a place that we should never be. Sit beside this old guy who's there because his daughter goes to the college or university and somehow he's a hockey fan and his daughter gets him a ticket from one of the guys on the team. So there's three of us that should not be there. And we're sitting there and him watch Paul Bissinette.

And I'm like a little I'm like a little fan boy. and he walks in and comes and sits right in front of me. Oh my God. Okay? Now, now, I don't talk to him because I can't, I don't even know what to say. I'm like a giddy, like a kid just saw Santa Claus. So he gets up and walks away. And then I start telling these two because the two of them don't know who he is, who he is.

And the old guy's like, well, you got to go talk to him. Just go talk to him. I'm like, oh yeah, just go talk to Paul Bissonette at a hockey game. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's so easy when it is actually that easy. Anyways, so I sit there and we're having a beer or two, and I'm trying to, I'm trying to work my courage to finally go talk to him. So now goes past the first period, then goes past the second period. The third period's coming up, okay?

Yeah. And we're sitting there, and I'm like, finally, I'm like, okay, I'm going to get up, and I'm going to go walk out. I'm going to go try and find him. All right, fair. I'm getting the courage, and out walks Paul Bissonette, and he walks back down, up and sits right in front of me again. And the old boy

slaps him on the shoulder as fast as he could go and goes, this guy wants to be on your podcast. And I burst out laughing because his podcast is the number one sports podcast in the world right now. This isn't Sean wanting to go on his. This is him, I want him to come on mine. And so I burst out laughing.

We start talking. And Paul was very, very friendly, but you could tell he was uncomfortable and, no, I'm not really. really that and I just said I said no I want you to come on mine he said I don't really go on I said that's fair you know it's not a big deal and he's like you know what screw it and it gave me his number and we did it that night oh my god what a great story but I'm like what do you make of that story right like I I wasn't

trying to wheel that in to be or anything I was so nervous when you talk about driving to Jeff or to Robert Kennedy Jr. I'm like all you had to do is ask sometimes yeah anyways I don't know where I was going. I just like, you're going to drive all that way? I'm like, freaking ask the question. It brings up so much because it's funny how themes get developed in podcasts unintentionally. It seems like, you know, this whole thing about, and people might not even believe it in themselves, about courage and then this looked like attracting things.

Like you really put it out there. You want to build your podcast. And like it's almost like magic. This guy just showed up. And then, wow, you had the guts. And you do need to have guts. Like the courage, you know, doesn't matter. You got to just go for it.

And what's the worst case scenario? He would have said no. And he did say no. And he did say no. But he changed his mind because he was so good about it. That's the other thing. Handle rejection well and it often can get turned around. Not always, but wow, that's a great story.

But yeah, with, you know what, I am going to reach out to Robert Kennedy Jr.'s team Because he's such a busy man too because he's literally fighting so much. legally but here's the thing we both with here's the thing we both know about him he understands the importance of what he's doing yeah he understands that time is not running out but that if he could add extra time to the day he would and that if he can reach probably five more people through tish i know i'm speaking for him maybe he's not what i've seen maybe he's a complete nutter asshole and wants nothing to do with it. No, no.

But a man who conducts himself the way he has, I don't think so. I'll tell you a story, and then you've inspired me to take action. You can stay tuned to how it goes. So we went to this conference. We risk getting across the border. We put a little fake mask on the windshield, you know, just get through without questions. We get down to this conference I met, doctors and freedom fighters. Yeah, that was good.

It's like, so we got there. We had a blast. It was a long ride. But then here I am outside with a glass of wine. Who comes out on the patio? I'm basically completely alone, but Robert Kennedy Jr. with his bodyguards.

And in my mind, I'm going, I think I'm thinking. I'd love him on my podcast, but what do I do? Nothing. And we have this little conversation. He said, how are you enjoying it?

And then I said, oh, you know, it's amazing. And then he left to go to his hotel. So it's like opportunity missed because I didn't think my, My podcast was big enough. It was just a little tiny thing, but I'm going to follow up. But think of the, but here's something else that I'll-

We made the connection and he really liked me. Like he came up to me. He goes, oh, yeah, like I remember you. How are you, Tish? And I'm like, he remembered me. Here's the thing that I'll leave you with some positive vibes because I really believe this. Maybe, maybe, maybe if you'd asked, it would have been the wrong time and maybe and all this thing. You know, I think of the Chinese proverb or the Chinese, you know, the Chinese,

he's, the farmer, you know, his, what is it? His horse runs away and the townspeople all come running in and they go, oh, isn't that bad? And he goes, oh, maybe. And the next day, the horse comes back with seven wild ones. And they all go, oh, isn't that the greatest thing? He goes, maybe. And then his horse, you know, his son's training the horses and breaks his leg and they all come in.

And, you know, and then, and they, you know, and so maybe. Maybe. if I've learned anything and I'm a slow learner and I'm still learning and everything else is you know sometimes it's there and it's just you know I hear that story and I go man I think if you would have approached it there's a good possibility and saying that for all you knew he'd been asked 15 times and that's why he was leaving he was just tired of I just can't do anymore Maybe that was what it was that day. When I think the Paul Bissinette story in Arizona, I have no idea because I'm trying to act like I facilitated that when I completely was like against it.

I didn't have the confidence for it. Hell, I said, I don't worry about it. My reaction to him saying no was almost like relief that I don't have to sit down across from a guy that is going to expose me for being a shitty podcast host. Like, think about that. That's where I was at in that mentality. Now I'm like, I, well, once again, I'll say it again. I had Daniel Smith on Monday live. And I was terrified of the interview, but I embraced that.

I embrace that emotion. And that's close to, well, that's over 400 podcasts, right, between the 370 I've released and everything else. So I encourage you. I think that would be exceptional if you got to. Okay, I'm going to do it. Yeah. You know what I am? I'm going to polish up my format, but yeah, I'll give it a shot.

It's like you can't score if you don't shoot at the net, right? Let's keep the hockey out now. Wayne Brexky. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Yeah, exactly. It's like that with everything, and it might take five shots to get that goal or 10 or 50. Well, Keith Morrison, Dateline. I tell this story lots too for listeners who have been along for the wreck.

Dateline Keith Morrison, the voice. He has ties to Lloydminster. His father was a pastor here, I believe, is what it was. And that took me six months of correspondence of email after email, after getting close to getting denied, to getting close, to getting denied, blah, blah, you get the point. And that's my, to me, with Jordan Peterson, it's probably been 100 emails. and my biggest frustration is zero replies back. I haven't been able to break anyone

to where they're like, this is what you need to do. You need, because if I could just, in my brain, if they would just say, listen, you need to have a million followers, you need to appear on this,

you need to X, I don't even know what the ramifications. I don't, if they just give me the parameters, then at least you can work towards something. Yes. When you don't know, you just don't know.

And my frustration, you know, and if I use the same theory of, you know, if you watch how things play out, sometimes you can see the opportunity. If I watch how things play out in Jordan Peterson, I get to the point where I'm just like, I'm going to keep putting it out there, but I don't think it's the right time. And I don't know why that is. And I'll tell you a little other story. Geez, I don't know. It's story mode today. Listeners bought me a VIP ticket to see Jordan Peterson this past year in Regina. Okay, to physically shake his hand.

Oh, I saw him too. But your listeners thought that for you. That's really nice. And then you know what happened the week before he was supposed to be in Regina? He canceled the show. Oh, no. Like what other sign do I need? This ain't going to happen this year, right?

I'm just like, I don't know what's going on. Like, this man I want to meet, he helped change my life in a very positive way. Oh, did you read his books? The 12 Rules of Life. Well, we started a book club in 2018, four of us, five of us. Better husbands, better fathers. Just trying to challenge, listen, blah, blah, blah. And one of the first books we read was Jordan Peterson.

So we saw him well before he was ever polished in a hotel in Eminton. He was fantastic. Saw him again live in one of the theaters in Eminton. And I've been a follower, you know, like listening and wrestling with some his thoughts now for five years. And certainly people have been following him for a lot longer than that. I just, to me, his brain is fascinating. Yeah.

I saw him live at the Rebel News event. And I'm lucky. There's a number of them here in North GTA. So I'm going to see Christine Anderson. And I'm going to ask her to be on my show. For sure, she's coming to Canada. She's the MMP. equivalent in Europe, standing up, gutsy.

And I want to ask Pastor Poslowski as well. I don't know if he's been on your show, but I think he's an amazing guy in Alberta speaking out about things. You're talking Arter Poslowski in jailed. He's got amazing stories. I met him at an event. It's interesting. You know, I can, I think I can help you there.

Oh, really? You know who I'd love to have on my show because we share passion. for kids mental health is Theo Fleury. Oh, we can hook that up too, too, too. I would love that. I don't, I'm learning. I'm a slow learner. So I'm going to say this aloud in 2023.

One of the things I'm hoping to do better is, is, is help people, you know. Me and Nicole Murphy, and Nicole Murphy comes up right after you, and I'm sure we're going to talk about it. I get stuck in this scarcity mindset. You know, like, I can only be, not that I can be the only one to ever have whoever on, just that in the business we are where I'm doing this full time, you worry that if your guest list appears everywhere, then you become irrelevant. And yet, that's not exactly true whatsoever, because Joe Rogan's guests, for instance,

appear everywhere. Yeah. And yet you go to Joe because you like Joe's style. or maybe you like Tish's style, or maybe you like Trish Wood's style, you know, all these different people. And some people just like Sean's style, and that's put me where I'm at.

And to help others along, I'm a slow learner. I'll say that again. Feels like it should be something that just comes natural. And at times when you're an entrepreneur and you're trying to facilitate a full-time status where you're supporting a family, I can get in my own head.

And so, no, let's get you, let's get you Theo. I think that's an easy thing to do. One other thing you should do while I think they're coming, I'll text you this or I'll email you this. I think Kig Carson and his group are coming to Toronto as well. That'd be a group for you to meet up with because Kig Carson is from Vancouver. He does a show that's very popular and he has a whole bunch of different people that are speaking at his event. I've never been to it, so I can't vouch for it.

Yeah, no, I'd love to. And I just wanted to say, because I speak about this, and I, you know, my whole corporate training on leadership training, I have years in this facilitation is moving from this scarcity mindset to this abundance mindset. And when you think of even the way nature is, right, if we go back to the template of nature, one seed, you know, like one plant has like hundreds and hundreds of seeds. There's no reason for people to be starving. You look at, you know, when you do micro farming, it's the same with everything.

So when you think of podcasters, so you have your expertise, like, you know, you've this angle that I can't know everything. So I bring you on and that really appeals. It adds value to my podcast. You know, I'm deep into holistic health and, you know, certain other avenues and resilience. That sort of gives more to your podcast. So we help each other grow bigger. And this whole mindset, if we all move to this above,

this growth mindset where there's just more and more that the more we help each other the more successful we all are it's that way everywhere we even when you go back to and and this is maybe for another day but i've been really going back to the beginning that you know darwin's theory of evolution and all built on the fact that the fastest and the smartest evolved and you know so it makes It makes you kind of compete and feel you need to compete for scarcity because there's only so much out there. But when you shift your mind to like, wow, there's so much for everyone and we're all uniquely created and we can add value to everybody. So instead of competing, you're collaborating, literally you shift into abundance and you grow bigger and bigger. And it happens all over the place.

So you brought up a great point for another day and I've been really, you know, debating. this and it's more philosophical, but it's a huge thing to move your mind at a scarcity. And all of those inevitable human fears come up. Like, you know, if I give away a little piece of my pie, does that mean I'll have less, right? And it's a normal feeling. But if we grapple with more and more collaboration instead of hard competition, we make everyone's work better. So I think that's, you know, and anything I can do to help your podcast as well, I think we just help each other. You know, I never know where this will go. When you talk about it, it makes so much sense.

But in one's mind, it's an interesting thing to wrestle with. Oh, absolutely. And we all both, I was a competitive athlete, right? And I'm a, you know, it's all performance, competing against the other guy and winning. And there is a place for competing. And now I think the person who's trained the hardest should win, right? It shouldn't be a prize for everyone, something like that. But when you come to work and educating and building a community and, you know, changing the world, that's a collaborative effort.

And so it's a different mindset. It needs a different mindset for that. Well, I've enjoyed our chat today. We've been, you know, for the listener on this side, we've been going for, you know, I don't know, two and a half hour or something like that. It's been a full spectrum. And I'm finding out a really, I'm going to put this out to my side of things. You know, I'm finding these double headers, as Drew coined it. You know, like they're really fascinating because, you know, when you're constantly the interviewer,

people always are on me that I never talk about myself. And I'm like, well, I want to pull out of the guests some knowledge for you. And then having the flip happen really rounds out a podcaster and the guest and the guest and flip-flop, it really melds together two sides of a conversation because obviously you guide one, I guide one. And I'm looking forward to trying to track down, and I'm sure my listeners will hammer me off some texts as soon as this airs, but essentially doing this more with a few different people to highlight their shows as well. Because I think one of the things in Canada, we've got to figure out is where is all these different shows and who are they so that people know they're there. because I think we're all sitting there doing our thing,

unbeknownst to the other islands sitting in, you know, Alberta, Ontario. I know of Manitoba, certainly out in B.C., you get the point. There's all these different avenues. And to kind of, like to use your word, collaborate and everything else, I think would be very beneficial to not only my audience, but probably to others' audiences as well. Absolutely. Well, it's been my pleasure to be on your show today, Sean.

It was great chatting with you for the last couple hours. Thanks a lot, Tish. I appreciate it. All right. My pleasure. Bye, now.