Shaun Newman Podcast - #388 - Chris Barber

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Big Red, leader of the West Convoy hops on to discuss life a year after the Freedom Convoy. SNP Presents: Legacy Media featuring: Kid Carson, Wayne Peters, Byron Christopher & Kris Sims March 18th in Edmonton Tickets here: https://www.showpass.com/snp/ Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

This is Brian Gitt. This is Ed Latimore. This is Danielle Smith. This is Kristen Nagel. This is Aaron Gunn. This is Vance Crow. This is Quick Dick McDick and you are listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the podcast, folks.

Happy Wednesday. Hope everybody's week is cruising along. Hump Day. We got a great one on tap for you today. Before we get there, a couple of things. SMP presents March 18th in Eminton, featuring the likes of Kid Carson, Wayne Peters, Byron Christopher and Chris Sims.

Tickets now on sale. Just look in the show notes. Pay attention on social media. Text me if you're having troubles. And that's going to be in Emmington, March 18th. So that's going to be an exciting, well, exciting for multiple reasons. Change of venue. So we'll see how that goes.

Change of scenery. We'll see how that goes. But another SMP presents with the full cast that I think is going to be electric. Today's sponsors, Guardian, plumbing and heating, Blaine and Joey, Stefan. We all know what makes them different for multiple reasons. I'm chuckling at my last conversation with Blaine and Joey on our Monday roundtable. Anyways, you know, very principled men, and they showed that all through COVID. I think when they talk about looking for workers, one of the things you can hang your hat on,

or they can hang their hat on is they stood by their employees. and didn't, you know, course, force, et cetera, them to do anything. And I don't care what work shift, you know, they offer. And don't get me wrong, I'm going to get to that. What makes them stand out amongst a whole bunch of other businesses is the fact they stood firm in their beliefs. And they say what makes, now, their words, what makes this different is their service team work seven days on, seven days off schedule, 12-hour shifts, no night shift, no on-call. So basically, you work half the time, or half the month. but get paid for the whole thing.

We also offer a traditional five and two schedule for installers, great benefits, awesome wages, great team, and they're looking for plumbers, HVAC, techs, installers,

and apprentices. All you got to do is go to Guardianplumbing.com, where you can schedule your next appointment at any time. Deer and steer butchery, the old Norman and Kathy James family built,

uh, Wednesday, folks, here we go. The old Norman and Kathy James family built butcher shop. I mean, if we're not having fun on this side, what are we doing, right? Got to find the joy in life here somewhere. And tongue twisters that seem to get Sean going in the old morning sit-down monologue. I haven't even taken a sip of my coffee yet. Maybe that's

the problem, folks. Maybe that is the problem. We'll see if that wets the whistle at all. The old Norman and Kathy, no, I mean, fuck me. This is just going to be how it's going to be. It's the old the butcher shop Highway 16 range road 25 it's been there since 95 it's had a facelift and it's been used by local hunters and and beef cattle buys in for custom cutting

and wrapping from around the area and you know I I've been talking a lot about it here lately as the ice box slowly gets thinner and thinner it's it feels like it's kind of getting to the time where Sean's going to go help you know carve up some meat again because that's one of the cool things

about going there is the experience you can have in doing it. I mean, honestly, that's, I mean, what can I say? That was an eye-opening experience. Maybe a lot of you do this for all the time. Tron certainly did not. So if you want to, you know, get your hands on, your meat and see how it's processed and everything else.

Pretty cool experience. You can do that through the deer and steer. Give them a call 780870-8700, or you could just give them, you know, your animal and they'll take care of that as well. management their Lloyd Mr. Bays company specialize in all types of rental properties to help meet your needs whether you're looking for a small office or a 6,000 square foot commercial space give Wade Gartner a call today 780808 5025 and you know I've been I've been wrestling with this I mentioned it last week I had a few people text so I'm going to continue

to explore my thoughts on this oh you know Sean Sean's having a day folks ah my goodness if my head wasn't attached this morning I don't know what I'd be doing. Okay, here's a couple things. One, if you're a business out there and you want to get involved, the Tuesday mashup as we were talking yesterday, there's only a couple of months left on it. Like, it's been filling up real fast, which has been really cool to see.

There is open spots on the podcast, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I would throw on Thursdays, but my plan isn't to do five shows a week the rest of the year until, unless, like, the text line just absolutely blows up. But I think I'm kind of, you know, looking at it, Like after I take holidays, I got family holidays coming up here next week. So we got some stuff in the hopper that's going to come out, which there's some great content coming up. Don't worry. But once I come back from that, it's going to be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Fridays.

And there's some open opportunities for businesses to get involved on those days. Of course, as well, the Tuesday mashup, I don't know where I'm going. I'm like, you know, I don't know what's wrong with me this morning. Just, I know, dear, I'm goofy or something. So there's that, if you're a business, there's opportunities there. And then people always ask if I got Patreon. I got Patreon, but I've been saying this over and over again. Like, you know, like I've heard different stories.

Everybody knows the PayPal thing, you know, where if you talk a certain way, you slowly get removed from that. Well, Patreon's no different. And so although I do have Patreon. on. Vance Crow had passed along the idea, and actually that's a lie. Vance Crow and one other, and I'm forgetting your name right now, that's terrible of me too, but it's called Fountain. Fountain, you can essentially, by listening to the podcast, it automatically is giving Satoshi, which is the lowest form of Bitcoin.

So if you love the podcast, you're listening to every episode, you should look into Fusion, Fusion. F-U-S-I-O-N, or not fusion. Fountain, Fountain. I don't know what. Like, Sean should just put us play already. Oh, my goodness. Fountain. Oh, boy.

Not fusion, Fountain. You should look into Fountain. It's an app. Essentially, it pulls across any podcast you're listening on Wi-Fi. And then by listening to your favorite podcast, essentially you're donating to, by listening to it, it's giving Satoshi to the podcast creator. Anyways, I've claimed my show on there. I've started. I've had mild success so far on it.

And me and Vance are, or when I get back from holidays, you're going to do a follow-up on it, because I kind of want to understand it. I want to let you guys in on it, because obviously if I'm worried about, you know, all these different things and, and I don't know, listen, I don't know what I'm saying anymore. It's a Wednesday Sean is He's having a time on this side All right

So I'm just going to do this I hope wherever you're at You're enjoying what you're hearing If you are Share, subscribe, leave a review For your business Let's hook up If you got good guest suggestions

Text the text line And we'll go from there Now let's get on that tail of tape Brought to you by Hancock Petroleum For the past 80 years They've been an industry leader In bulk fuels, Lubricans, Methadone, and Chemicals delivering to your farm commercial or oil field location for more information visit them at

Hancock, petroleum.com. He's a truck driver, business owner, and one of the organizers of the Freedom Convoy. I'm talking about Chris Barber. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Chris Barber, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joining, while we've been sitting here talking for an hour, I just figured it was time we

may be flicked on the mics. Chris Barber. Thanks for hopping in here. Thanks for having me, Sean. Appreciate it. You know, we've been talking a lot about community and different things. I don't know what, you know, you asked me last night, you're like, what are we going to talk about? I'm like, whatever you want to talk about.

Because I'm like, you know, what is there to talk about at this point? But I got to introduce you to my wife last night. That was super cool. It was awesome. Yeah, for me. And obviously being here in Lloyd and people coming out and listening with, you know, you and Jamie and Theo on stage. I don't know. How have things been?

They've been busy. That was an awesome event last night. I was walking around the backside of the studios there and seeing the Wall of Fame, you know, and all these celebrities and people that have played on the stage. And I thought, you know, my name's on this ticket, you know, for a pass with Jamie Slandthe O'Ferre. How surreal is that?

Pretty humbling. My wife saved the copy so I can go home and put it in my little curio glass display case in the basement for all the stuff that I've accomplished in the last 12 months. So that just adds to it. Yeah, it's, my wife doesn't know who you. are right like she's just like okay so who we going to see you know and I'm like you know I hate to pump your tires too much but I'm like you know just a a very

important person you know you're one of many that you know like I'm like you know the reason we're sitting here and not having to show a pass or have a mask I'm like da da da da da I'm like well there's a group of people you know they went to Ottawa and did this thing and this was the guy in Big Red you know it's like you know it's um For me, it's super cool to see you on stage last night. You know, I can't imagine. Did I look nervous? I laughed at the dog being on stage.

I chuckle, I'm like, well, that's an interesting choice, you know? He's kind of an intricate part of this whole thing, you know. He was with us on the ground. Zippy's been right there, you know, on my lap rolling into Ottawa 12 months ago. And he continues to be that guy social media friendly. And so it was just fitting that he rolls out on the stage and then starts coughing and hooking. Every time Trudeau. Joe's name get brought up, but he starts choking on his own fur ball.

I thought he was going to die. Yeah, it's, you know, it's funny. When it comes to getting people on the podcast, in the studio, whatever it is, sometimes it's just like things just come together and it's like almost meant to be. And other times it's like it's been kept apart. I laugh about it. How many times did I try and get you to hop on a podcast in Ottawa? Probably once a day?

I would imagine. I don't think I did it, but I know you were one of the first people that, interviewed me, I was scared shitless. I was in Grand Forks, North Dakota, in Big Red, and I took this call and went on this live podcast, and that is the first time. I'll have just been a big mouth on social media for so many years, and all of a sudden I'm actually doing an interview, so I was nervous as can be, and that was the first for me, and then it just kind of continued from there, so.

Well, I chuckle, A, it was about as harm, I say this all the time, it's about as harmless an interview I've ever done. Of course, everybody knows it got me yanked off YouTube. And in Ottawa, what we were planning on doing was having yourself and your son on to sit down because he drove part of the convoy. I mean, you got talking about him. I'd be interesting, right? And for whatever reason, you know, it just never, never happened. So I laugh about it.

It has been a year now. And I finally get you to sit down and do an actual physical live podcast. This should have happened a year ago. And for whatever reason, whatever, you know, forces at play, it just didn't come together. I truck about that because I'm like, I'm here we sit. And it's kind of cool that this is the first. time I've done a live podcast and it's you and the year ago you were the first one I did a podcast with so hey there's two first here for me so I'm sitting in

studio you know um you got uh they talked about it last night and I I was wondering this like how hard is the last year been because well actually let's let's start this what are the stipulations on what you can and cannot talk about so I was arrested and charged six indictable offenses Tamara and I are both charged with the exact same thing. So it's anywhere from mischief, counseling to commit mischief, obstruction of a police officer, or intimidation of a police officer, and then going against a court order. Max penalty two to ten years in federal prison. Our court dates are scheduled for September 5th. So in my bail, I'm not allowed to support the convoy remaining in the city of Ottawa or

moving anywhere else for protesting purposes, which is the convoy's done. It's not coming back. There is no intention of going, you know, the only reason I'm going to go back to Ottawa now is for court. That is not a priority of mine. I'm just, I'm working hard. I've got a lot of stuff going on right now. So just adhering to the rules that I'm on. And it's nice to sit down and talk about some of the experiences.

The inquiry was in November. It was an awesome experience to sit down and actually tell her story. We weren't allowed to do that before. Tamara, she's pretty handicapped right now with her conditions. She's got, they're quite, they're quite rough as well as a few others. We're just working through them day by day and trying to do our best to keep the message going. Well, I was going to, I guess I was like, I wonder how hard it's been to have to like control or regulate what you talk about, you know, because like one of the things that, uh, it being my name on the wall is anything that comes out of my mouth, I got to stand beside. You know what I mean? Like I don't get to hide. We were talking about this first start. I don't get to go on the social media and hide behind a fake name or not show my face. It's like, well, even if I want it, it's literally my name's right there. You're getting it. So, I don't get it. So, I don't get to. So. But one of the blessings of that is I literally get to say what's on my mind.

And nobody, I'm not losing, you know, sleep at night over it because, you know, how hard has it been to, like, no, you can't talk about certain things? Because if you do, the repercussions are pretty heavy. It is true. And, I mean, it's like, but in the last year, it's like one of the things everybody probably wants you to talk about, you know, and you're like, why, I just can't. How frustrating has that been? Very frustrating. It's hard to believe that we're living in in the free country like Canada. You know, these people come to you all the time on the other side of the fence and they're like, well, what freedoms have you lost? Well, I could list. Do you have time for an hour or two?

Full discussion here? Because there's a lot of things. You know, there's people in this country right now that Tamara has people on her conditions list that she's not allowed to communicate with that she's never met. And so Keith's biggest fear is one of these people that we don't know who that person is comes up to and Tamara and says, hey, can I get a pitcher? Tamara's first instinct is to always oblige. Keith's first instinct now was to run and get in the photo so that there's a lawyer present. You know, and that's like said, like last night at the show, there was Keith and Avedroo from Edmonton just so they could take part in it, not to control or to monitor me, but to be there for us. And that's pretty, it's a pretty awesome thing.

There's been some serious, awesome relationships built in the last 12 months. Yeah, I look for, I was saying, I chuckled to, because I saw Keith there last night. I walked up, shook his hand, and I'm like, you know, if you're coming to my hometown, you could have just told me, and we could have done the podcast here. It took him a second to realize who I was, and then he's like, oh, my God, I thought you were Eminton. I'm like, no, Lloyd Minster, you know, like, you're in my hometown.

I'm chocolate because I saw them both walk in. I've interviewed Eva, and I got, spoiler alert, I got Keith coming on here in a couple weeks. Nice. And I look forward to those chats, you know, like their view on all this will be just as interesting as anything. And it's strange times when you have to have lawyers. Like I think at Tamara, the first time I saw Tamara was at an APP event in Eminton. And they were in every single picture.

I can't imagine living under that pressure that somebody unknown could, like, man, that's an insidious idea. To put a name on there you've never met, to instill the fear that they might be around the corner. The boogeyman's around the corner. And if they get in a picture with you, back to jail, you'd go because you broke your... Evidences right there in Toronto back in what was it May when she was in a three-second photo with somebody and the lawyers were standing off the camera.

You know, when she went back to jail for a breach and then still has to face that breach charge, losing her bail. Yeah, this is Canada we're living in right now, unfortunately. There's some certain things that are a little questionable. And where do you go from it? What, you know, people, you would think people would open their eyes a little bit more and say, that's not right. You know, we need to, you know, bring this back to reality a bit, but people still continue. And I see it all the time on the, on the messages on my social media on from the, from the trolls, I guess, that I like to play with on a regular basis. They're, they're very

vocal. It's almost like I live rent-free in their head. It's funny, uh, you know, well, actually, one is you shouldn't let anyone live rent-free in your head. It doesn't matter if you're for or against what they do, you know, when you have that problem, you probably just need to shut it down for a bit and you know they don't they don't live in my head no no no I'm I'm actually speaking to the person that rules yeah whoever it is right like uh sometimes just shutting down whatever you're on and realize them where your feet are and just enjoying that moment is uh it's quite healthy you know there's there's people on uh on social media last night that we're monitoring that that live broadcast from the show last night in praying that I would

breach and I would be back in jail and on my way to Ottawa in handcuffs that's that's that's a that's a that's a society we live in because I've I fought or what I stand for is something that they don't. So instead of saying, hey, I agree to disagree with you, I'm going to go my way over here and you can go your way. No, they're in your face saying, no, I don't like you and I don't want to be part of you, but I'm right in your face and I'm not going to go away. I see a lot of people on a regular basis that I don't agree with, but I'm not going to be in their face telling them that I don't agree with them. You go your way, I go my way. It's, it's kind of something that people should pick up.

I wonder if, I wonder what that podcast would be like, you know, and have one of them hop on and see, you know, I hate to open that can of worms, but at the same time, yeah,

I think it'd be interesting for, because like, I hear that. And, you know, I think of Jeremy McKenzie. Good example. He talks,

every time he comes on, he brings up the anti-hate network or anti-hate, whatever the hell it is. And he's like, oh, yeah, they're monitoring this. They monitor absolutely everything I do.

And you're like, Oh, okay. And it's like, I can't imagine having a job or taking it upon myself to monitor someone in this world's every waking movement. And funded by the liberal, you know, the government. Yeah. That's the scary part. They're paid by the government, you know. I don't really have much to do with them.

There's a lot of people out there. I tune all that negative out. I'll pick the people online with the horrible comments and then I'll call them out on them and try and, you know, like, come on, really? You make a comment like that and you don't expect something. somebody to call you out on it. That's kind of my intention behind it. I try to make humor of what they say and point out the obvious and then I don't leave them set and then the other people on TikTok will come in and keep that conversation going. We never win those. You know, those are conversations that you know you're going to lose. They've got their opinion. They're not

going to change their insights. Yeah. I don't know. When you stare at the future, you know, are you a positive? Are you just like this is what it is? What do you think? I mean, you got to have a front row seat to one of the biggest events in the world. You were there from day one. You got to experience the convoy. You know, people talk about Ottawa.

And I say, you know, my memory for the rest of time will be the, when we caught you guys and the road from essentially dried in Ontario to Ottawa. That experience in itself was. Oh, it was. You had this seat, and I know, I know you can't talk about certain things. So instead of talking about that, I'm curious, you know, when you look at the future and seeing what humanity is capable of, are you positive? Are you like, you know, not the doomsday, but certain people are just like, listen,

the storm clouds are sitting there. It's going to rain. And so I can either walk inside and prepare and put a shelter over myself and you kind of get the analogy. or I can act like maybe I can do a voodoo dance and it goes away, but chances are that's not the case. Which way do you look at it? I'm here for the storm. I've always been here for the storm.

I see it coming. I'm extremely proud that I was a part of something so unique and mind-changing. And like I've said to many people before, if there's anybody that has learned anything or grown anymore, it's me in the last 12 months. Finding a direction for my voice and certain things that I have issues with in the world. Um, so that's been a positive, 100% positive on it. Uh, and I know there's a lot of people watching you know, Keith Wilson and often says,

you're in the land of consequence, Chris, now everything you do and everything you don't do has a consequence to it. And that's kind of in the back of my mind, reined myself in a little bit because I'm still that guy that, you know, somebody calls me a name. I'm going to call you a name right back, probably twice as bad. I've had to tone that rhetoric down a lot. I wonder if we all aren't in the land of consequence. I think so.

I don't know if I've ever heard that before, so I'm going to have to bug Keith about it when he comes on. Keith's got a really good, you know, you listen to the stuff that Keith can tell you. He's got a lot of beautiful analogies. Another one is, you know, you're flying right over the target when, you know, you're flying right over the target when the shitstorm's hitting you. I can't remember how he words it you'll have to do, you know.

You're picking up the most amount of criticism when you're on on target. On target. Yeah. Yeah, when you invite Chris Barber on and the next day, well, not the next day, but like a couple days, later your YouTube channel just disappears overnight. Well, maybe you're a little close to the sun, you know? And over what?

That was one of the mildest conversations. I think that, well, it was the first conversation, but I know it was one of the mildest conversations I've ever had. YouTube. On this podcast, on the level of extreme I've had, it was a zero. I mean, it was just on a subject that they deemed was they didn't want to talk about. But that's the world we're living in right now. I lose videos on TikTok on a regular basis that are completely perfect.

You know, there's nothing, there's no demeaning, there's no anger, there's no nothing. And then somebody will report them for bullying harassment or, and you'll appeal it. And then I sit back and I wait. I think there's two people at TikTok that manage my accounts. And the one person's a little on the left side, the other person's a little on the right, but I don't know their schedules on when they work. Because when I appeal the video, I'll lose the silliest videos. And then the next time I'll win the weirdest one.

And then I go, just for fun, I'll report somebody else's comments that are absolutely horrendous. and the no violation will come back. So it's a biased we're dealing with, whether it's social media, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Facebook, TikTok. They're all playing that narrative, right? They want to silence us and shut us down because we're a threat to what, you know, they deem. And it's interesting. I've boiled down, I don't know if I'm right,

but I've boiled down a lot of where we've gotten to in society to, to, I think, a simple idea. And the idea is you're either pro-human, anti-human. And it sounds like, well, it can't be that simple. But it's like, well, you either think we're overpopulating the Earth and we're about to destroy it, or you think that human ingenuity can task whatever comes at us.

And we can be better together and any, whatever it is, whether it's mouths to feed or people, to house or, you know, pulling people out of poverty, disease, et cetera. If we tackle that, we can improve the Earth. Or you think that we're a ticking time bomb and we're about to head over a cliff. Maybe we already are over the cliff. And when you boil it down to that and start thinking that way, to me, that's just, that's where we're at. It's, that's what one side is arguing. That's, they're literally saying we're killing the planet, whether it's, you know, through climate change, whether it's through. Who's feeding that narrative?

Hmm. You know, that's the one thing that I think a lot of people forget is the person, the people feeding that narrative, the climate change, the division, the dissent, you know, we should hate everybody because we don't agree with each other. You know, government, 120 million percent right there. They've been fueling it for years. Like I've said before. But here's a question for you. Who's fueling the government? That's the bigger question.

That might be the bigger question. Right? a lot of people stare at the Bill Gates, the W.E.F. W.E.F. Klaus Schwab. All these different things. And that's maybe the, because, like, you know, I watch a lot of arguments are going on. And I'm like, they paint it as if you aren't going like, we are going to die tomorrow, you don't care about the planet. It's like, what the hell are you talking about? I care about the planet. I care about my community and everything else. But if I don't get in line with where you're going, which I was just saying to that, you know, like people who probably just listen to Chris Sims, the Canadian Taxpayer Federation lady, if you haven't listened to, go back and listen. Just listen to how carbon tax is going to continue to ramp up until it's like at this point. It's like, well, do I got to be broke to save the world? It's where we're headed, right? I was going to tell you the story in our last hour of conversation off Mike. I watched our fuel bills on the semis in the last two years go from $7,000.

a bill a month for fuel in one truck to 23,000 per month. And tell me this, how does that affect then your rates and everything else? I have to put that fuel tax or that car that surcharge on my customers in order to equal that out. And I feel, I felt horrible. I mean, for quite a while. And some of the invoices I would say off, I would, I would type in fuel surcharge and then I would put the Trudeau tax because that's pretty much what it is.

Pretty much is. You've found a way to tax the air we breathe successfully. and people are standing in line to pay that. But then when they go to the grocery store and they say, holy crap, you know, a jug of milk is now $9. I wonder why. You know, inflation and all this sort of stuff, I see it, you know, watching the fuel bill go up like that.

It's hard to take. You have to be making that money in where you're going to sink. And you sink, then what do you do? You become more government dependent? Well, that's the scary thought, honestly. You know, I sit here and I go, okay. the storm is coming. You can see the clouds.

And it's like, we all sit back and hope that one person, and I'm going to talk about Pierre Poliyev or Daniel Smith, those two seem to be the two politicians right now that everybody thinks they're going to walk in and save the world. And it's like, I've been saying this before, they're just two human beings. If the group of human beings underneath them don't want what they're selling, good or bad,

This doesn't change, right? The entire world is going towards 2030, 2035, and 2050. And what is 2050 away? 27 years now. 27 years, I will still be on this planet, God willing, and I won't be that old. But, like, you think about what they're trying to push. Like, in our world, just in bills, you know, the carbon tax is going to triple here in Alberta by 2030. That's just 2030.

That ain't 2050. They're trying to phase out all gas vehicles by 2035, I believe. No more production. No more production, right? And you go, okay. But all the experts, all the people that are staring at this are going like, well, our grid can't handle it. We don't have enough this. We don't have enough of that.

How are we ever going to get here? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And yet they continue to push. And it's like, as a person sitting here, I'm like, okay. So how do you? Do we get maximum amount of people to just stand up and be like, enough? Enough. We tried that, you know, a little while ago and look at what they did, you know, to squash

it. That went completely against the establishment and completely against the narrative that they're trying to push in. And they used everything, the force of the media. You look at what we talked about last night on the Theo Flore or Jamie Slay Show. You know, the crime prosecutor basically handed my 4,220 pages of my cell phone evidence. over to the courts. Talk about that a bit. I didn't, when you said that on stage last night, it's like, holy, din. So we've got a charter application in for a charter violation. The court's going to hear it

on March 23rd, 24th. I have to fly back to Ottawa and take part of that in the court. So they confiscated my cell phone when I was arrested, and they used, they were interested in finding cryptocurrency is the reasoning why they broke into it. I have no idea about cryptocurrency. I'm not that kind of guy. But they broke into it and they pretty much downloaded 4,220 pages off of my cell phone and then released it to the courts on a Friday afternoon without knowledge. So I see TV news, I believe, is who I got the article from, telling us, said, oh my gosh, Chris Barber was in contact with Premier Brad Wall all the way to Ottawa.

You would think that would be something where people would say, holy crap, that should legitimify this. You know, they were consulting and people in high power positions were consulting to make sure things were done properly. Instead, they turned that narrative and tried to say, oh, you know, I've known Bradwell for a number of years. He is probably the most honorable man I could ever be around. He's one of the best premiers in Canada's history other than Peckford. This guy's a stand-up guy, and they tried to crucify him because he was in contact with me. It should tell you that, you know, the meaning, the demeanor of these people. So they released private conversations with my wife, my ex-wife, my children,

customers. I've seen business customers, email addresses in the disclosure. I've seen text messages that have nothing, absolutely no relevance to, you know, last year's events. As well as conversations with my lawyers, Keith Wilson and Evichipiac. It's right there in plain sight. These are my lawyers. That's client solicitor privilege right there. And dumped out on the courts and on the media on a Friday afternoon.

It was Monday morning before my criminal lawyer could get into court to have a squash, a stay put on it. And here we are, you know, 12 months later dealing with it. So we're going to go to court, fight it out, see who was in the wrong. We need to start calling these people on this misconduct because it was. Could you imagine what would happen if it was a, you know, not a conservative, not a freedom fighter that the government did that too? Could you imagine the outcry? Holy mackerel.

And it's not like they found anything. That's the, you know, Keith Wilson, this is a funny thing that Keith foamed me here back a while ago and he said, Chris, I went through all 4,200 pages. And, you know, you'd think, you know, for somebody having their full cell phone thrown out on the table for everybody to see, did your Google, your internet browsing searches would be a little more interesting, but no, he says,

apparently you like World War II history. You searched, you know, where was the battleship sunk and what was this fight about? And, you know, there was nothing on there on the internet searches that were damning or, you know, truck driver, right? So it was a pretty good piece of puzzle to put together.

I, like, did, I don't even know. What's the, like, when you see that come down, is it frustration is it terror is it anger is it all the above it anger it uh it caused a little bit distress you know we had people talking about my personal conversations with my wife I'd be lying if I said that it didn't cause her a lot of stress I can deal with it it's it's something that really just what I couldn't believe and I still can't believe they do that but I think it's all gotten into you know trying to embarrass somebody more than anything and you know me I'm an open book I usually will tell you what on my

mind regardless of it's good or bad but I don't need my personal conversations with my ex-wife or my children you know that's there's some things in this world that should be kept private and you know I've got a 16-year-old daughter at that time that that text me things that the people don't it's another business and there it is on you know Glenn McGregor's desk reading through it you know eagerly like he's a yeah believe it at that well it's you know it's something even on where I sit, you know, it's like you want to get a person's thoughts, invite him on the show.

You know, you want to have Chris Barber on, you know, and see if he's actually made anything. The best way to do it would be to have him on a show, to talk to him. And, you know, I was having this conversation a couple days ago. I've been getting reached out to more by people wanting to edit, do things on the podcast, you know, like from a background standpoint. And one of them said, you know, we want to take out the ums, the awes, the, you know, like, if you get an embarrassing moment, take that. And I'm like, so you want to basically filter what I do on the podcast.

I'm like, you're missing the point. I don't do that. I literally leave in almost everything, you know, a P break. Okay, folks, we cut it out, right? I don't think we need a dead air for a couple of seconds. But other than that, like in the course of, I don't even know what episode we're on, 3, 87 or 8 or somewhere in there. I've had two people ask for two words to be removed.

Really? Where they were like, you know, I just, and I chuckle at it because I'm like, you do an hour and a half. If people hold on to one word you said after the hour and a half that you've talked for, I'm like, they're probably not here for the right reasons, right? Like you can say some pretty damning things on this thing, but if they listen to you for an hour and a half, they get a good feel for you. My audience is, I mean, some days their ability.

to cut through the bullshit is way faster than I am. And their feelings on people, whether they say all the right things or don't, they cut through right to the bottom of it. And I go back, a long tie rate, is if you want to have attack Chris, the best way to do it would be to have them on a show and see what you're made of, right? See where your brain is and actually ask some questions and actually get to the bottom of something. But from my standpoint, I'll give you my thought on it. the same could be said about the other side.

And it's very, very, very uncomfortable. It's something we've lost in society. It is, yeah. To sit down with somebody you disagree with, or they just, they look at problems strangely. Like, you're just like, but in saying that, we need more of it. If we're ever going to get out of where we're heading,

we need to find a way to get the middleman out of the way. And to me, that's like legacy media, maybe even politicians. They're sitting there and they're creating this divide. And if I've learned from anything from the military guys that have been in here, Chuck Prodnick and James Sinclair, they always talk about the worst atrocities in human history always start with a little bit of divide.

Well, folks, we've got a big divide going on. Oh, huge. So, like, let's not, like, discount that. So the way to get, hopefully mend, pull things back together is take that media, fucking throw it in the garbage, take that politician, kind of throw him off to the side or her, and start talking to the counterparts and it's going to be uncomfortable.

Believe me, I'll stick the hand up. I've had a few people come through here and it's like, this is hurting my, like, I want to scream, but I need to hear it. One of the best things about last night's show with Jamie and Theo was,

and we did this off the cuff, this wasn't expected. We threw questions out to the audience. And other than trying to hear a couple of the people that were asking the questions, what question did I avoid or not answer last night? I don't believe I did, you know, I'll answer any question to the best of my ability. If you want somebody that's, you know, if I've done wrong in the past, I'll own it.

What do you think about this? This is an off-the-cuff idea. Here we go. What do you think of this idea? Chris Barber does a tour where we hit larger centers. Maybe you have a bodyguard. I don't know. You see me?

kind of a bodyguard myself. Yeah. And allow the craziness to happen to talk to it. And I say that as just an off-the-cuff idea because one of the things, quick dick, McDick, right? We both know quick. He's a good dude. Had him in the show, geez, what was that, folks? Like three weeks ago.

Anyways, it was a great thing. And last night, you're right. You didn't avoid any questions. But I would also say the audience. that was there last night, believes in Chris. Which means the hard conversations didn't happen last night. The hard conversation is the one that I don't want to have. I don't even want to go.

I'm like, but I did an open EGM with Shane Getson. Once again, his audience. But we opened it up and some of the questions were hard to dance for a politician. It was interesting to watch. And me being who I am, I get to talk directly to it. A politician, and I'm not throwing shade at anyone. I think Shane very highly of them and his ability to talk to issues.

But some of the questions from a conservative audience was interesting. And I'm like, hmm, so I go back, quick dick and me and we're talking about it. And I said something about Toronto. I'd never go to Toronto. I said, well, why not? Maybe that's exactly where we need to go.

It's downtown Toronto. And 15 people show up and they fucking attacked a shit out of quick dick. And let's see what happens. Because, you know, like one of the things about the SMP presents that I'm doing is solutions for the future, right? It's like, let's start a problem.

Let's have a group of people talk about it. Let's see what comes out of it. And yet, if the audience is always the same side of the coin, some of the conversation never gets had. So one of the things that a listener said is maybe we just did the rural urban divide. And they said, maybe you need to go do the urban rural divide. So go to Eminton and have city folk on your panel

and talk about what they're concerned about and add them to the conversation. Anyways, I don't know. I'm spitballing here. It's a good idea. You say, you know, one of the hardest conversations, I guess that I've had to have, it's happened at the inquiry. I was on the stage for every hard question there was to ask.

And they, you know, it was, there's a funny backstory to that that I don't know many people know of. Maybe you'll be the first to talk about it here. Uh, the, the, the guy that interviewed me, John Mathis, you know, he, he, he called me in the night before, quiet little meeting. Come on in. Let's talk about what's going to go on. tomorrow and he came in and he said look it it's going to be some some heart aiding questions tomorrow and I want you to be prepared for it and so we talked

about the different things and of course there's lawyers there and I'm not allowed to really say much but I could listen so I went back to the hotel room and I lied there all night and didn't get a wink a damn sleep like just you know I was scared shitless of course it was you're gonna be on national broadcast across the entire world if you want yep every eye watching you know and there's people watching waiting and I don't believe I dodged any questions if I've done any wrong in the past which I have I've owned it and let's move on with it everybody's got you know something to hide mine has been pretty well wide open to the world so I said my social media history years ago was I told you that before

I would post a meme on on Facebook and I'd post it publicly so I could fight with people I wanted to engage with the other side I wanted to draw them in and have a have a battle and the one thing I've learned in the last 12 months is that I don't have to do that anymore. I've found a voice or found a way to push the voice or, you know, channel that energy that needs to be channeled into a positive light. And I've found a way to do that. So I've grown myself. I don't think I've grown. I've probably been the most, the best one that's grown in the last 12 months. So you know, speaking about the emergency act for a second, I thought and I'm curious of your perspective on it, um, Rollo?

Yeah, Justice Rollo. Rulo. The interaction you guys had on stage, for everybody saying he's a liberal chill and he's, you know, what it, blah, blah, blah. The interaction he had with you and Ashley Tamara. When I watched, I was like, well, that's a guy who knows what Chris is, like, because they, some of the tough questions was about your background and about a flag and about, you know, and trying to unearth if you were actually a white. supremacist you know and here's justice rollo uh going asking a few questions of you towards the end i'm like well that's a guy that isn't he he isn't just paid and bought for at least in my eyes i but maybe you can we we kind of felt sitting in the front row of the of the audience you

know watching the proceedings i was there for you know three four or five days beforehand before i took the stand so i was able to watch his body language and kind of get a feel for the kind of guy he possibly was and he was interested in us you could see He was monitoring Tamara and I sitting in that front row. You'd commonly catch him staring at us and kind of getting a feel for us. So to have him ask the questions to us personally afterwards, showed that he was actually vested. He was actually interested in both sides of the story,

which I found was very helpful. I know what hotel or what apartment building he was staying is. There was a couple mornings I walked through there to go to Keith Wilson's apartment, and the elevator door would open and Justice Relo would walk out. And so good morning, Mr. Rolo, and he would always polite, always a good guy. I believe he's, he's probably one of the best, so. It'll be interesting to see. What date does all the, 20th, 20th of February?

20th or 28th? 20th. 20th. 20th. Oh, so that's like. It's coming up here next Monday, I believe, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's not far off at all.

So we've got a busy week here this week. So what's today, Friday? Friday. So I've got a podcast with Mr. John Carpe to do tomorrow. on Saturday. Clyde do something. I'm going to do his podcast or is a YouTube channel

I believe it is on Thursday. But Thursday Friday, Tamara and I both have particular emotions in court in Ottawa. So we physically have to go, we sit in a computer. The judges allowed it. So that'll be court for

Thursday Friday. And then Saturday we get to go to Calgary and see Christine Anderson. I'm super excited. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's on her tour here. Excuse me. Yeah, that'll be, you know, I was on a Zoom call here back a while ago and I looked down on my phone and all the different people that on there and I'm like, that's Christine Anderson in the bottom corner.

So cool. Yeah, well, I mean, if people don't remember her having her speech yet, you know, she's said some, she's spoken openly about some of the, well, the damning things that are going on in the world essentially, right? I mean, and, and, you know, I, to me, there's no white night. It's a collective. You need more people pulling on the rope to pull it back or to pull it forward or whatever, which way you want to talk about it. And she's just another one in the another piece of the puzzle, if you will. She is.

I can't wait to see her. There's another one. There's, you know, Preston Manning is now involved with this citizen's inquiry. It's not just good enough with the government inquiry. We're trying to push forward on the citizens inquiry. So the people can actually have a say in what their thoughts were in the last 12 months with this. And that's something that they're working on inquiries. behind the scenes right now, hopefully come to light.

I thought Preston Manning isn't a part of that anymore. He's been a part of it. And if you have to find somebody that should be a part of it, I would say he's the perfect candidate. He's well, you know, respected across this country. He's been a very good politician for so many years. That's quite the person. Hmm.

I, yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I'll be interested to see where that one goes. Yes, be curious. You know, I don't know. I'm curious, you know, like the emergencies, the inquiry, I was curious how that would go.

And honestly, if I was saying, I said this once in a time, I wish I could like literally invest eight hours a day to just sit there and watch it. It was some of the best television Canada's had in a long time, right? But you needed eight hours a day to pay attention to it. And for most people, that's an impossible task. In saying that, I went back, you know, I had Jeremy McKenzie back on, I don't know, folks, so it was that a couple weeks ago. And I went and watched his, like, Skype.

I'm like, because I'm like, that was crazy. He's literally sitting in shackles in a jail cell doing the inquiry. And you're like, if people, you can go back and watch, folks, you can literally go to the website and watch any day you want and watch anyone's testimony and see exactly what went on there. Honestly, at some point, well, not at some point. You wonder some school will adopt it as like, you know what? For Canadian history, we're going to, we're going to dig through about eight key interviews there and see what actually went on. Because that was, you know, if you go and listen to it all, which I have not done, I don't want to sit here.

Like I've listened to what, like me and Eva had a conversation. And so there's key days in there where big things get on earthed. And if you go back and listen, it's like, oh, and that should probably be, you know, taught in school somewhere. The biggest takeaway from that was, you know, Keith, Keith brought us up here a little while ago conversation is we, the protest in Ottawa was never deemed to be illegal by any justice. By anyone. Anyone. And the fact that they're still calling it illegal, the media, the government, occupation, blah, blah, blah. Come on, guys.

I got to find somebody, Chris. that is, listeners help me find this, is, can get behind the psychology of words because there is something there, right?

They call it illegal, even though they know it wasn't illegal. And everybody said it, but they say that. They use the word occupation, even though it wasn't an occupation. They try and frame it as Canada's January 6th,

even though it wasn't. They try and put all these things out, and we see it over and over and over again. There's psychology in that. There is. Very, very powerful. And somewhere, there's somebody sitting there going, yeah, I can talk to this.

So if you know that person, throw them my way. Well, we go back to Kathy. Is it Catherine McKenna? Remember the old environment minister? Yeah, Catherine McKenna? Catherine, she did this. She explained it in a bar on a camera. Do you remember that interview?

Oh, yeah. We just, we pick a narrative and you keep pushing that merit. I forgot about that video. We learned through the inquiry, the Liberal Party of Canada came out with a playbook when the trucks were rolling east. We're going to call them. We're going to call them misogynist. We're going to attack them instead of saying Holy crap guys, we've got a certain part of society that's unhappy right now and they're willing to voice an opinion Should we listen to them? No, we're going to attack them and we're going to divide the country even further and that's exactly the plan they had and the plan they stuck with and the plan they still continue to go with to this day

It's a it's a very unnerving thing to see a government do that. Yeah, I'm a history buff. I I love World War II, the Pacific. I'm kind of a battleship kind of guy. But my YouTube channel is constantly, or not my YouTube channel, but when I'm watching YouTube on the TV and the living, and my wife gets a little angry because it's always World War II documentaries. And the psychology that they used in World War II in Germany is pretty similar to some of the psychology they're using right now with people, aren't they?

I got something to show you after. For the listener, they know that I sat down with a 97-year-old man from Holland. last week. This week, geez, my days are getting all. And it'll come out for the listener. It's coming out. It's coming out. I'm going on holidays with the family coming up on family day, weekend, week.

So I'm going to have a couple of these, I don't know if I'm calling them archives still, but they're people's life history kind of thing. Anyways, I got to ask to co-talk to a 97-year-old man in town because he was from Holland. And he had, you know, as a 15-year-old kid, his family had, helped people escape and I'm still trying to process what he said and I think it's only 45 minutes. I think it's it's very brief. It's but what he says in those 45 minutes is probably more impactful than any blip in the interview I've ever done in my life. Like it's just like they should be teaching that in school.

They're not. You know, instead of teaching kids the basic necessities like even removing the Bible and God out of schools they've brought in all this nonsense that they're trying ideologies. Yeah, the ideologies. They're indoctrinating our children's. This is where we're going right now. We've been kind of learned. What's the basic rule of history? If you don't know it, you're going to repeat it. So when you watch World War II stuff, what's one of the things that really sticks out to you that mirrors what's happening

right now? Well, I guess in Germany, in the 30s and the 40s, they built up to this, you know the narrative they they turned a certain segregation of society against others and made them able to be horrible people when they weren't not and and then they're doing the same thing right now just a little bit differently I you know you look at the sacrifices that these men and women gave for their countries and for our freedom so you and I can sit here right now and discuss this sort of stuff and then it pains me to see that a certain side of a part of society has forgotten that we're continuing on to forget about that.

And that's where it brings you back to the veterans. You know, there's a certain part of our society, our culture, our veterans that have been forgotten about the sacrifices that they've made and then the stuff, and it pains me. And I raise my children right now. Like I'm hard on my son. I would have to say in a good way, I push them on a regular basis. You know, you say something stupid. Hey, did you, did you shouldn't say that.

Wake up a little bit. it's time to get out of bed and go to work, you know. I think it's time for a lot of us to get out of bed and go to work. Right? Honestly. Yep. You know, I mean, here for the people who have the bet going on is Sean's plug on the book club. But to me, I got listeners that laugh at me how long it takes for Sean to talk about men's groups right now.

And I chuckle at that. It's just such, it's lodged in my brain. I can't seem to get away from it because I'm like, you know, Jordan Peterson, you know, love them or hate it. folks, says some things that just make absolute sense. And that is, before you go saving the world, clean up your room. Work on yourself. And if you can work on yourself and get you to where you should be, maybe then you can impact your family.

If you can impact your family, chances are you can impact your community. And we all started doing that, you know, we paint this bleak picture of where we're heading. And yet I'm like, but if we all just started cleaning up our room tomorrow, today, as you're sitting in this, just sit and start to do things that make you a better human moment. which I don't know what that is. I can't tell you for everyone. But certainly for myself, I was just, you know, like, slow down on the drinking.

Maybe get involved in your community, whatever that means. Start to pay attention to your family and be, you know, get off the phone. It can be little easy things. It sounds really stupid. Joe Rogan just had a video that I thought was brilliant. He's like, go for a walk every single day. He goes, that sounds really stupid, but he's like, you'll see how hard it actually is because you're going to, your body's going to, your mind's going to tell you,

I'm not really interested today or whatever. But if you break out of that hat and you just force yourself to do that little net positive, it will start to spur things on. It's like if we all start doing that tomorrow, you know, we sit here and complain about the world. I'm hard on myself because I like to point out some obvious like, well, this is bad. Well, this is bad. It's like, well, do you want things to change? Okay. We want things to change.

Start doing little things, right? I live in a part of the country where you can watch your dog walk away or run away for about three days approximately. So one of the things that my wife and I commonly do in the summertime when the weather is nice is we go for a walk. We have a gravel road. We can't see any, you know, my parents are a mile away from me. We're out in the middle of nowhere. But we've got the beautiful scenery around us. So my wife and I will go jump on a gravel road and we will walk for, we've got a power pole we go to.

It's about a mile. So by the time we get down to the mile and then we come back a mile and zippy, the little dog that travels around with me, he makes it about a quarter mile and then sits in the middle of gravel road and waits first to come back. We have a conversation every time we walk. It's bonding. Our cell phones are at home on the counter where they should be some days. And you get back to the basics and the, that's where it should be, right? Go visit with your partner or your children.

My son and I spend a lot of time together. One of the things that I got into with my son, you know, he's in high school and, you know, drugs are pretty prominent nowadays. And my son kind of, I could see him going down that road as well as his mother would question, you know, he's into a little bit of the weed. And so let's try and get him back into something positive and busy. And the one thing that we did that we had common ground and was antique farm

equipment. So my son and I started collecting old tractors and we bring a tractor home and we painstakingly tear this thing apart. Or, you know, Jonathan, he's extremely smart with online. If there's something that he doesn't know or I don't know, he will research it, YouTube, but you pretty much how to learn how to floss your teeth on, on YouTube, anything you need to know. So we would learn on these old tractors,

stuff that I've never done, tear them apart, repaint them, get them running, and the satisfaction of doing that in the year and then going to tractor shows and that sort of stuff. And we have a yard full of old antique tractors now. I think that's like, you know, if people take anything out of this entire damn sit down, talking to your partner,

really good thing. Spend time with your kids. spend time with your kids. Really good thing. You want things to change. You have to invest energy in it. To me, I take comfort in knowing I don't know a whole lot. And that as I get older, I'm just going to continue to learn lessons.

I tell this story from time to time that, you know, at 18, I thought I had the world by the nuts, which you kind of do. And I thought I knew everything. And then at 25, you go, no, for sure I know everything. And at 30, you're like, man, I think I got. got a case and then I hit 35 and I went I know Jack all and there's comfort in that it means you get to you know do you know what you do at 48 when you do at 48 you start looking at your legacy you start looking at your children my daughter Sierra is the most vibrant and beautiful person that I could possibly other than my wife I'm so proud of her you know and watching her

spirit and she's down to her if she goes to a Bible study every week she goes to church religiously on Sundays she has a boyfriend possibly a boyfriend that is just asked permission to date her who does that in this era now you know and he's a good kid from a ranching background that I would be absolutely proud to have to date my daughter I haven't been home long enough to get this question asked but apparently I coming home to it so he's already asked my ex wife and and so I got the I got the word up on that and I said I don't really know if that's a good idea and then I shocked the hell out of her she almost called me to yell at me but I was kidding so it's still out there we just have to find it and we have to model it yes people I if there's not

no good in the world to model you model what the kids model what they see right like one of the things that I'm so like gung-ho about is how healthy, get healthy, healthy relationships so that your kids can visualize what it is. Because in society, I mean, we just had the flipping Grammys. And listen, there's been people that 50 years ago were upset when, you know, or maybe it's more than that, less than that, when Elvis got on the stage and started shaking his legs, right? Like, this isn't new. It's a new variation of it.

But it is becoming more and more prominent where we don't have healthy families being mirrored on. Right. Right? Like that's what Look at what we have on society now. Yeah.

You know, and this is what we would expect our children to look at. I don't watch the Grammys. It's something that I, you know, Hollywood is. I didn't watch it either.

No. I didn't even, but my social media blew up. My, my inbox just blew up. You just did you. And it's like, all right,

I'll take a, and you're like, holy dinah. This is a society we're living in nowadays. Welcome. It's, it's disgusting to say the least.

And you wonder why we're having troubles right now. In society. You've taken religion out of every building. You mentioned religion and that type of thing. As the last year were you a religious man before the last year? Or is the last year... Beliefs.

I've definitely been there. My first wife was very spiritual and I'd become part of the church then. My grandmother raised us. My grandmother Barber was kind of a fire and brimstone kind of a person. God bless her soul. She scared the living show. scared the living shit out of us a lot, to be honest with you. If we, uh, if we did something wrong, we were going to hell and we were, you know,

but that being said, she at least gave us the values and took us to church every Sunday and in the little community that was born and raised in. And so the values have been there since day one. And like every Christian, you falter and you, you come back, you leave, you know, there's, there's no perfect one out there. That's by any means and I'm never saying I am close to perfect, but the values are there. I look at my daughter right now who's very, very active in the church and very level-headed and spiritual. And I could be proud of that because I had something to do with that.

Her and I picked her up back here a couple months ago and we went to Tim Hortons at like 10 o'clock at night, something like that. And we talked about revelations and how she was so scared of that book or that chapter. And I actually said to her, I said, I'm actually very interested in it. And then she was shocked. So we had, I bet you we sat in the corner of Tim Hortons and chatted for probably an hour. On a school night at like 11 o'clock at night, of course. But the fact that you can have a conversation like that with your daughter, your 17-year-old daughter, is amazing. And our cell phones were off, and we just talked.

If people got back to that sort of thing, I think the world would be a lot better place. And I think people are getting back to it. Slowly, yeah. Slowly. I, uh, for two years of my life, maybe a little less than that, maybe a little more than that. I don't know. I let fear really control. my life.

I know more. A lot of people do though, don't they? They turn on that propaganda news in the morning and they fed their daily dose of misinformation and they believe it and then they turn on their politicians and they see more of it. Or they turn on their favorite social media whichever side of the coin is and they push fear.

Non-stop. No-stop. It's just no more. Whether you're a godly man or a non-godly man, if you lived your lives based on the Ten Commandments, this world would be a better place. No question. No question at all.

But they've been removed out of schools, courtrooms, you name it, right? But that doesn't take the onus, you know, when it's been removed out of a school, folks, the onus is still on the parents. It is, yeah. The parenting is lacking nowadays, I feel. I don't know. I see some kids out there that they're craving for attention.

And the attention they need is the, is the, Is their parents? Is they nurturing from their parents, right? Yes. So. I'm a younger than you. I'm a relative. Some kids think I'm the oldest guy and then, you know, you get anyways.

I mean, in the middle of my life. And one of the hardest things coming from a young man to having three kids was I had this, and I'm going to use the word wanderlust, you know, like I just love traveling. I love, you know, for a good chunk of my life. I got to just move across the country, go to the States, go to Finland, go all over the place, and I just loved it, and I miss it. And that was a hard thing to give up in saying that the best part of my life is right now with my young kids and everything, right?

Like it's hilarious little conversation that me and my inner monologue have about like, but wouldn't it be fun to go to it out, wherever, it doesn't matter. Croatia, Thailand, New Zealand, somebody had, you know, like Costa Rica, I don't care. Maybe it's Rome, you know, for me, I'm a history guy as well. I'd love to go see somewhere, you know, the Coliseum and different things like that. Except it's like, you know, it'll come. It'll come. Eventually.

Yeah, it'll come. And now I'm like, wouldn't it be amazing to experience it with my kids? Because, well, there's part of me in each one of them, right? Which means they're going to eventually have my brain. And which is going to come with its pluses and its negatives. But I'm going to actually get to interact. with that. Yes.

And they're going to be, well, they already are. They already boss me around, right? But like, how old are your kids? Six, five, and three. So you're at the perfect ages there. So I'm at the different end of the spectrum now where I'm almost, we're empty nesting. We come home and the children are gone. My son still kind of lives in the basement.

Thinking about getting an apartment, he's, you know, we're working on him slowly, but it's just going to be my wife and I in this big house on a farm. And it's, it's different. Now, you know, even in the last number of years, we've been slowly getting to this place where we can travel again. We've, we jump in the car and we'll just drive somewhere for a weekend. That's what we used to do up until, you know, the last 12 months have been a little on the hectic side. And I can't see it getting any easier for the next little while at least. But the travel time comes.

So you're at that time and with your children right now where they need you and that nurturing. You'll get past that where it'll be just you and your wife and you're kind of standing around going, holy crap, what just happened? It goes fast. huge fast. I hear that. In some days I can totally get it. And some days they're rangatangs and you're just like,

what is going on? Yeah. Yeah. I did come home to a, I think it was about six months ago, something like that. We came home from a weekend away and come home to a beer cans all over the house. And when,

uh, when we're gone, please don't have a party. Okay. It's funny. And yet all of us kids have done. that we've all done that haven't we all like I mean I can just I feel like I can visualize everybody driving wherever they are today and nodding their head like yep I was that

moron that through a party at the house that created a mess or um etc etc I you know and then you get older you're like oh that was stupid oh my parents I they had to be the most patient people on this planet to deal with me when I was a teenager it was it was probably quite the event. Well, I, I, uh, we, we, you know, I, I could keep you here for five hours. We could go back and forth. And I certainly would, but I know your wife sitting at the hotel and I know you gotta drive places and everything else.

Uh, any final thoughts for the, uh, for the audience, um, you know, um, anything you want them to know, what have you, Chris? Freedom Corp is, uh, is around where, we're, we're almost at the point where we have a website now. So Freedom Corp is the end. of. Tamara and I are quite prominent. We're still, you know, doing what we can right now with our limited conditions. So Christine Anderson next weekend in Calgary will both be there for that. We're in constant communication through the lawyers, of course. That's what we do. We're moving

forward with quite a bit of different things. So we're going to get into starting to fight back a little bit. There's a lot of stuff going on right now. A lot of our legal fees are covered. Thankfully, through the JCCF. Democracy Fund is in there helping Tamara with some stuff too. there is court costs that are going to start costing us some money here eventually. So we are going to be moving forward with hopefully with a little bit of a line of merchandise that we can sell to try and generate some funds. It was been uncomfortable with asking for money. If anybody goes back, you know, 12 months, the GoFund me that was brought in.

I wasn't in support of that. I'd said to Tamara like, ah, no, I think if any trucker wants to go anywhere, they're going to do it on their own dime. And it was solely rained in that, no, actually, we need something like that. So we'd like to start selling a few things, see if we can build up a little bit of money in an account for that fight. And then going forward from there, when we win our legal challenges and we have that money that's in that bank account for the intended purposes, which was to go to the truckers. And once the truckers are paid off, we still have all the receipts, all the documentation of who had what and when. fulfill those obligations and then move forward with that and our intentions right from the start

we're to help out veteran societies so with talking with the board of directors and tamara invest the whatever's left over and then use the interest to go to veteran societies is our goal that's been our goal right from day one met a lot of amazing people in the last 12 months a lot of good veterans out there i can tell stories for for years and i'm very proud of what we've accomplished I'm interested to see what the next or 2023 brings for you. I think the audience knows this and you certainly know it because I've said it multiple times, but I really appreciate what you've done and what you stood for and just how you talk, honestly. Like it's so just balanced, you know?

Like, I mean, I've watched some of your TikTok videos and things like that, right? Like, I mean, if you follow the online, Chris, it's kind of, you can have days with a whole man, he is, he's wound up today, but like anytime I've interacted with you like this, it's always been so great little discussion. Have I ever asked you the Crude Master final question?

I should probably do that. I don't know if I've ever done it. And now I'm like sitting here and I'm kind of lost my thought. I do it for everyone and I almost missed it, folks. Here's the final question. Crude Master, he's a long-time truck driver

here in town. And he came on the podcast. Jesus, is that a couple years ago now? Maybe it is. He said a line that is, you know, kind of stuck with me. So I added it into the end. And it's, you know, if you're going to stand behind a cause, stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing Chris stands behind?

I guess my country, country family. I've always been somebody now. And even if in the last little while here, that Canadian flag, you know, one thing that I've always admired about the U.S., and I've said this before, I'll say it again, is the people in the United States when you're driving in the States That American flag is prominent. It's high and it's everywhere.

And I always felt a little jip that Canada wasn't quite as proud of that flag as what the Americans were. And in the last 12 months, you see that Canadian flag everywhere. And it is something that I am so proud to see everywhere. Yeah, I could agree with that. Well, I appreciate you giving me some time this morning. This has been, well, I mean, I don't know. Over the course of a year, I've got to bump into a lot of different people. And certainly I hold you in high regard.

And cool to see you in town. and people come out and support and everything else, and then have you in the studio, you know, when we, you know. My first live podcast. Like, this is nice. Well, thanks again for making some time. Yeah. To the, to the listener, if you enjoy,

I had the suggestion from one of the listeners that I cut things off really abruptly. So here, here's what we're going to try and do as we slowly move forward. I won't be perfect on this. But if you enjoy what you're hearing, the way you can certainly help the podcast is share, like, comment, rate and review, that certainly would help out immensely, you know. One of the things I probably don't talk about enough, but like I've spent in four years of podcasting, I've spent, I think it's $150 on advertising.

That's it. So it's come from the audience. You have enjoyed it and you've shared and continue to share. And I appreciate that. And if you want to help the podcast grow, continue to do it, like, leave a review. And, you know, I do this crazy thing where I have a phone line that is, on every episode show notes. And people think I'm insane for that,

except I get to interact with the audience, and they are brilliant. So if you've got ideas, you have thoughts, you liked or hated Chris, let me know because I love to hear from you guys. So with that being said, we're going to sign off and appreciate Chris sitting down again this morning and all of you tuning in.

So we'll catch you next time. Thanks again.