Shaun Newman Podcast - #393 - Dallas Alexander
Episode Date: February 27, 2023Veteran of the Canadian Military. He served 16+ years which included time with the JTF2 (Joint Task Force 2) which is considered among the world's elite special operations units. He was a part of the ...team who hold the record for the longest sniper kill which happened in Mosul, Iraq in 2017 at 3.54 kilometres. Now retired from the military he is a country music singer. SNP Presents: Legacy Media featuring: Kid Carson, Wayne Peters, Byron Christopher & Kris Sims March 18th in Edmonton Tickets here: https://www.showpass.com/snp/ Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500
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He was a part of the Canadian military for 16 plus years. He was in the Joint Task Force 2,
considered among the world's elite special operations units.
He was a part of the team that set the world record sniper kill in Missou, Iraq, in 2017,
and now he's turned a country music singer.
I'm talking about Dallas Alexander.
So buckle up.
Here we go.
This is Dallas Alexander, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast.
Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.
Today, I'm joined by Dallas Alexander.
So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on.
Thank you for having me.
It's weird.
I'm on family vacation.
It looks like you're on family vacation.
This is a family vacation podcast.
That's right.
Just took a little break, stepped away.
First off, thanks for making some time.
Obviously, you've been all over the headlines recently, and people blew up my phone,
and it sounds like they contacted you too, and somehow here we sit.
So I want to get to a lot of different things.
With an hour is the time frame, the first thing I got to know is you're from Fishing Lake, Métis settlement.
Are we talking like North Onion Lake, like back in that country, or am I thinking somewhere else?
No, that's precisely where it is, right along the Alberta, Saskatchewan border.
It's northeast of anything.
Well, you know, shit, next time you're back home, you should just come and visit because I'm from Lloyd Minster.
That's where this is all out of.
No way.
Yeah, man.
That was the big city we would go to every now and again.
Where's city?
It's funny.
In my working career in the oil field, I used to go to fishing lake every,
every week or every couple
days, honestly. I had
oil wells in that area that I had to
check up on. So it makes sense.
Anyways, I mean, I heard that
and I'm like, is he talking the fishing
lake that I'm thinking? Anyways.
I don't know. You've got to give
a little bit of people are like, what is
Sean doing here? Anyways, I saw
that and I'm like, we got to bring it up.
Anyways, I want to give you the opportunity
to tell the listeners who you are.
And we'll see where we go from
from there. Sounds good.
My name is Dallas Alexander.
And right now I play and write country music songs.
Like you said, I'm from Fishing Lake Métis settlement.
I was born and raised in Alberta.
And if you know where that is, it's really the middle of nowhere.
I was in the military for just about 17 years and just recently retired in order to play some country music.
I'll use in a couple things.
Do you wish the headlines were about your country music then?
Not necessarily.
Eventually I wanted to get there.
But I think the experience that the headlines are about,
I think it's important for people to know just how crazy it was.
I've got a lot of messages for people that felt like they were alone
through all of these last few years in their experience.
and they find it very inspiring or helpful to know that they were not alone
and that it happens all over the place, but in the CAF and within even like, you know, elite units in the CAF.
So I think Ivy specifically told the story about what happened to me, leaving the Canadian Armed Forces,
because I wanted to share that with people that felt like maybe they were, you know, alone in their thoughts,
views or experiences for the last couple years.
Would you mind, I don't know.
I've had multiple different military guys on the podcast over the course of, you know,
four years, I guess now.
And I'm always curious, like, what drew you from middle of nowhere, Alberta to, you know,
the military?
Like, was it something you always wanted to do?
Or was this something that just kind of fell upon your lap?
How did you make the jump from a small town kid to, you know, like, I mean, for the people that don't realize, like, you were one of the, on the team that has the record for the longest kill ever, right?
3.5, 4 kilometers, which hurts my brain to even think about.
But, I mean, how do you go from one spot to the next?
For me, I always wanted to play hockey.
It's the only thing I ever wanted to do my whole life.
and I was working in the oil field actually, an off-season,
and a guy was working with told me about our counterterrorism unit JTF2.
And at first I didn't really believe him,
and I did some research on the old dial-up internet.
Why didn't you believe him?
You didn't think Canada had any?
No, the only thing, so I did not track the military at all before I got in.
And the only thing I ever heard was, you know,
we had to do some peacekeeping here and there.
and there was a little bit more starting to come out because the guys were in Afghanistan,
so I was seeing it a little bit more in the news.
It really still wasn't tracking.
I was like focused on going to play hockey and that's all I wanted to do.
But when he told me about this unit and then I looked into it,
he found out that he wasn't lying to me.
I was instantly pushed.
I was like, that is what I want to do.
Like, immediately.
You know, it's pretty wild.
You know, you've been to the States an awful lot, obviously.
I'm married to an American and to see how they portray their military.
Obviously, it is a big industrial complex.
Like, it is a huge thing.
And then to have different military guys come on here and talk about their time in Canada's military.
And some of the stories they tell, I'm like, I've never heard this before.
Like, why is it that we never hear anything about how, like, I'm going to use the word good,
but like how talented maybe some of the military men and women we have in.
can or we never hear anything about it all we hear about is exactly what you said we do
some peacekeeping i think like yeah we do yeah um i don't know the actual reason i think the u.s has
um just a a different spirit of patriotism i think than we do uh in a lot of ways and especially
through their use of media to talk about and spread that stuff and i think for them it's a big
recruiting tool as well like you know they have a lot of people and they have a gigantic
military and they rely on stories of inspiration or you know stories of different heroes that
have done things or movies you know to recruit and continue that cycle of getting good people
into their forces and I don't think we do the same thing well we definitely don't do the same thing
the why behind it I have no idea who uh when you when you say you were playing junior hockey
who you got the hockey player on this side
Who are you suiting up for?
I played all over the place.
So I played my minor hockey in Elf Point, Alberta.
Okay.
And then after that, junior, I went and played the MJHL.
Okay.
And then I went and played Junior B in Alberta in Slave Lake.
Definitely gotten a lot of tilts.
And then I played a little bit in right at the end in Traverse City, Michigan.
Okay.
What took you?
Called the enforcers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you're, I played, come from a small little Saskatchewan town, which, you know, is tiny.
It's a village, Helmont, which is just northeast of Lloyd.
And so I ended up out in Ontario in the sigil, the Superior International.
So we got a ton of guys from the MJ that came and played out our way.
So I played in Dryden, which would have been three hours east of Winnipeg.
Anyways, people are going to think I have you.
to talk hockey, but it's, it's cool to talk to somebody.
He's like, yeah, man, I want to be a hockey player.
It's like, no shit, I want to be a hockey player too.
Isn't that the Canadian story?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, let's talk about the Sean Ryan episode.
Did you, I don't even know what to say about it.
I'm just kind of want to hear what your thoughts are on it, to have the, you know,
basically a cease and desist letter sent to him saying like you're exposing a whole bunch of things
and everything else.
I mean,
I thought it was wild.
Again,
and I told Sean this,
I think it was to try and stop
slash sensor part two from coming out
where I spoke about
my exit of Canadian non-forces.
And the reason I think that is because
nothing that I shared
was anything that, you know,
wasn't already open source
or known in some way other than like some details of the story but nothing was you know giving away
a capability or anything that I deemed as you know could be a concern of operational security
for guys still working and I consulted with a ton of guys who are still in the unit
still in JTF2 and guys that are recently retired long retired like a whole a whole gamut of people
lower ranking to higher ranking.
And we talked about, because I knew the reach and the audience that Sean has was big.
So I didn't want to give up something that could be deemed, not even deemed,
but could be in reality a concern of operational security, you know, that would harm future.
Yeah, well, you got friends and everything else still operationally going, right?
So that makes sense.
So I thought it was wild.
I mean, that's really the only.
angle they could take in my opinion.
They couldn't say, don't play part two because it makes us look bad.
So they say, get this cans off, whatever, public affairs officer to send a season to
assist and get it all picking down.
Well, lead us through, you know, for the audience members who haven't listened to Part
two, you know, that your story is a story, although military, is something that we've heard
on this podcast an awful lot, sitting here in Alberta.
Canada. I think one of the things Americans have a hard time understanding is some of the stuff that went down in Canada over a course of two years. It's almost like if you just start writing it down, it's like, how the hell do we get there? Right? Like this is wild. But for the listener who doesn't know your story, Dallas, could you lead us through the last little bit? I hate to, you know, I hate to like just run over the same course of events. But in saying that, I think it's useful for people to hear.
hear, you know, exactly what happened. I mean, you're 17 years in the military, 14 with
J2F? Yeah, JTF2. So just under. So it was like 16 and a half in the military and like
13 and a half or so at JTF2. Okay. Well, lead us through it, if you don't mind.
Okay, so for the most part, I had a fantastic career. I really enjoyed it. I got to work with
the best soldiers I've ever met. A lot of them are friends and brothers who will be for life.
It just towards the tail end under a certain government, it started changing a lot and it was becoming not a place for me.
Like there's like a, if you're using the word, it describes it the best, but there's like a wokeism that is creeping in to the military.
I didn't think it was going to happen at our unit, but it did because we still get direction from the government.
So it was just starting to become a place that wasn't for me.
And then when, so the military ended up mandating the COVID-19 vaccine,
which I found strange.
I was just looking from like a health perspective, demographic, all these different things.
What is the risk to me right now?
I'm like, feel like I'm going to be fine.
So I was like, I don't want to get it.
And I do the same thing with the flu shot.
I'm like, okay, as I grow, as I learn, I assess all of the, really as much as I can.
And it's all based on health.
Like, what cleaning products do we use?
What, like, what do we consume in food and water and all these different things?
If I'm doing that in all of my life, for sure I'm going to do it with something that's injected into my body.
There was concerns coming out about, you know, with Johnson and Johnson shot not being great.
Asterzana because these things are like, oh, maybe don't take that.
Oh, maybe take this.
And it was changing.
Don't mix a match.
Oh, wait, you can mix a match.
Yeah, so it was literally changing like weekly or every third day.
And I'm like, okay, well, I'm just going to wait.
So I was ordered to go to an appointment to get this shot.
Or to go to the appointment.
Went to the appointment.
I said, I'm just going to wait.
That was on a Friday.
I told my chain of command that I passed on it.
I'm going to wait.
And by Monday, I was being threatened to be fired, posted out of our unit,
posted out of our troop that I was in.
and I'd never seen a response like this to anything ever.
And like, I've seen some fucked up shit happen.
Oh, sorry, I don't know if I could swear on this.
You can certainly swear on here.
I've seen some really messed up things happen.
And no one was ever treated like this.
So that was another alarming thing.
This is very strange.
So when that happened, it was because it ended up being mandated
that the Canadian armed forces would have to take the strong.
in order to continue to work and if not then you're going to be released and on like an expedited
process when this happened i started my own military or uh medical release process um
i had i can't get me down don't know how many concussions and it was it was time anyway the
silver lining out of all of this is that i will have no more kind of brain impact from from
that job it's very physically demanding a day-to-day kind of
job so I started in the medical release process and medically released in the end but what happened
is as all this was going on they were there's a big masking charade I don't know if you've seen like
masks on masks off or stand up sit down put it on pick it off I think Alberta didn't have as
much of it but it was still out there and in our at our camp it would be like I would be having a
chat with somebody or two people or five people no one's wearing a mask
But if like one person was coming,
everybody puts on the mask on because this person does this and I'm I was just I'm like I'm not playing this game guys.
I'm not doing this straight thing.
That's not who you selected.
So everywhere I started getting in like administrative trouble like oh you didn't have a mask on here's a write up.
Okay.
Throw it in garbage.
And it led to me.
I don't know.
It's just like in the military that's like you get in trouble and then it goes up a level.
then you get in trouble.
That started happening for the first time in my career
just because I'm like, I'm not playing this game.
I'm not doing it.
And I was not taking shots, so I was going to be released.
I was trying to chase up a medical release anyway.
And I was just, I had zero fucks to give, as they say.
So I was called to a meeting.
They were going to explain to me why they were turning down my requests for exemptions.
and again I was told to put a mask on
I said I wasn't going to do it
and had a confrontation with our RSM
kicked me out
and that was the last day
my past ever worked at our unit camp
so that was how I got kicked out
like for not putting on
a fucking mask
you know if you were on
wind the clock and you go back to
it's hard now right
like because we're so far past it
kind of right?
I mean, we are, but at times, you know.
Yeah, it's being forgotten rapidly.
Yeah, isn't it?
But if you rewind the clock to that day when you're like,
has everybody lost a fucking mind?
Well, this is what I asked.
So I said, okay, calmly, is everyone in the meeting going to be wearing a mask?
And he said, absolutely.
Then I said, you're all safe if they work.
And if they don't work, then why are you requesting that I put one on?
and he fucking lost it.
Yeah, like to me that that's what was,
that's what's curious about that whole entire time is it.
They didn't want you to ask questions.
More questions he got asked,
more like everyone's tail feathers came out.
You're like,
but all I'm doing is asking questions.
I just want to ask questions.
That's it.
I just want to have people on.
You know,
like we all have our angles that we took at this.
And we all have these moments of people absolutely,
absolutely losing their top on us.
Yeah.
For what?
Yeah.
And I don't mind.
I really,
I truly believe in free.
So like,
I'm not saying,
don't go get back to me.
I'm not saying,
don't wear a mask.
Do your assessment
and then do what's right for you.
In every sense,
look,
just don't force your opinions
or your conclusions
on the things you look at on me.
That's it.
And that was the only,
stance I really took.
I just want to be free
to decide what I'm going to do and especially
what I'm going to put in my body
via a syringe.
Like, you know, like,
like, it doesn't seem like too much to ask
but apparently it was too
much to ask. Well,
you, you, you, you, you,
you went to battle with the mine virus
and the mine virus infected
and still infects a lot of people.
It's just, and
you stare at it and, like, I'm,
I'm sitting here hand up because I've tried and I've sat and then I've just kind of walk back a little bit because it's like I don't know like I'm I don't feel like I'm being that insane.
I don't like I feel like I'm being that forceful.
And the line you just used, I don't know how many people have walked into this podcast and said the exact same thing.
And I'm like, yeah, I get that.
I don't understand why they don't get that.
But that's fear.
That's a mind virus.
Just taking hold of somebody and not allowing them to think anymore.
At least that's where I'm at.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Yeah.
It is.
But it's, there, everyone is battling,
um,
a very tricky thing.
So like,
if you only watch,
let's say the news for your news and you only listen to your doctor,
or health advice,
you are going to be on prescription medications.
You're going to be scared of something all the time,
whether it's a virus or a new war,
or, you know, the heating up of our planet,
just every single thing,
and it moves from one thing to the next,
they're saying, here's something to be afraid of.
So if you tune into that all the time,
I don't even blame people for being afraid.
They're just like, they're scared over here,
and then the solution is prescription drugs.
And, like, it just, that's where you get your health advice and your news.
There's almost nowhere else that you can go,
except for being afraid and medicated.
sounds exhausting
it sounds so tiring
you know
when you were talking with
Sean Ryan
you mentioned talking to an elder
and I found that very interesting
that's definitely
an outside perspective
it was what comes to mind
and I don't know if that's the right way
but to me I'm like
oh I'm really curious what the elder
had to say because here's somebody
that's got a very interesting perspective
on what's going on I assume
when you can
consulted? What was you were you, you were consulting about whether or not to take the vaccine or what were you?
It was, yeah, it was around the vaccine. And the conversation was, it was like the belief system in place that we were talking about is like one of, of being natural and looking to nature and all these different things.
Now, it's not to say, and I'm not going to say their opinion, but I'm sure they're not.
against all medicine in modern medicine.
That's not, I think, what the conversation point was.
But it was like the belief system that there's a natural way
to almost be healthier than a way that is pharmacologically made up,
if that's even the right word.
Sure.
And in so many examples in my life and this person's life, it's proven to be true.
Like, I try to live very naturally.
And it's an interesting word because on a planet that is nature,
so everything that happens is planet can be natural, maybe one way or another.
But in looking to actual nature and food and all these different things to address or prevent health problems,
And it goes back a long, long, long ways and all kinds of, not just like indigenous beliefs,
but like every continent has some form of health care that is caring for your health via the plants and animals and food and nature that is around.
And that's all the discussion really was.
But because these beliefs like in an indigenous community, let's say, are not deemed a religion,
the religious exemption I asked for was declined by like the Padre of the Cap or whatever.
A person who'd never spoken to me.
Just like, no, we don't recognize that.
Scratch it off.
It's interesting for all the in society today,
all the push for making First Nations or indigenous peoples like, I don't know, equal or what have you, Dallas.
You probably can say it better than I can.
I always bungle this.
But when you go talk to,
one of the things that I found really interesting through COVID was how many people
tried to get a religious exemption because it goes against their faith,
which I'm very starting,
which I'm starting to realize is like a deep part of a person.
A guy who can sit here and say he's had his own spiritual journey over the last couple
years. When I hear you, I go, man, it's the same thing when it came to Christians, Catholics,
it doesn't matter. They all had their same thing where it was denied. And I go, in our world today,
we're being taught a lot of different things. We're trying to make things equal or representative or
whatever the word is. And here again, it's another version of where they just shut it down. It didn't
matter. It didn't matter. It doesn't matter what your belief system is. It doesn't matter if it was
indigenous or if it was Catholic or if it was anything. It was like, it doesn't matter.
Shut up and get the shot. Yeah. Yeah. And someone is in a position to say, no, that belief
doesn't stand up to what I think it is or should be. Isn't that a wild thought? You don't get your
exemption on your belief. That's a wild thought. It's crazy. When in another instance, we can say we will
honor whatever gender you think you are at any point in time.
Yeah.
Regardless of any other factor.
That's a.
Yeah.
That's really,
really interesting.
You don't,
Hmm.
It's a while.
It's an interesting place to be.
It's,
uh,
I mean,
just like in the world,
in society and like how to navigate that appropriately.
Or appropriately for yourself,
because that's all you can do,
I believe.
Um,
Yeah, it's interesting.
You know, in searching you out, I don't know why this comes to mind.
But it's funny how many times I interview people,
and then they become, you know, you learn along the way they've read
or followers of Jordan Peterson.
And, you know, creeping, doing a little creeping,
on your Facebook page and your Instagram, whatever,
I came across Jordan Peterson quote about,
you should be a monster.
And I think a lot of people really understand that.
But I laugh.
I'm like, here's just another thing on the old checkbox of why Dallas stood up and didn't everything.
He read some Jordan Peterson at some point and another check on the old box of like,
oh, here we go.
Another Alberta boy, I might add.
You know, I think one of the reasons you get thrown at me is I try to do,
as much Canadian content as I can, because I think Canadians don't realize what Canadians are doing,
you know, all of our stuff, as you know, to get exposed to a bigger or larger audience, what'd you do?
Sean Ryan, why? Because he's got a massive audience and they let them talk and they don't try
and censor everything at least yet what they're doing. And then you, you know, then people listen
to it and they go, you got to go on Sean. He's doing the same thing in Alberta, but it's a little
different, you know, it's, uh, I was chuckling. I was, I was watching his YouTube channel and
I'm like, yeah, Sean's YouTube channel got removed for talking about the Freedom
Convoy.
It's as simple as that, just like a nuke on it.
And that's the difference between Canada and the United States, in media, and everything
else.
Anyways, I don't know how Jordan Peterson got me to censorship, but I...
I'm...
I'm...
I'm not a thing of the Trucker Convo that I couldn't believe.
I'm just going to put this out there because this was another example that I thought was
so wild.
So I was there and...
In Ottawa?
In Ottawa.
I live in Ottawa.
I got in trouble for going there.
But anyway...
Wait, wait, wait.
You live in Ottawa?
Just outside of Ottawa.
That's where our unit is.
No kidding.
Okay.
Well, then I got to see...
I caught the convoy in Drieden.
Actually, where I played junior is where I caught it.
So then I followed it in.
I wish I would have filmed more is essentially the way...
because that'll be ingrained in my life for the rest of the time,
riding in the convoy,
getting to experience different parts,
et cetera,
et cetera.
You're sitting in Ottawa,
you've got to tell me about before the convoy gets there.
Just like,
were you paying attention,
where you're like,
holy shit,
what's going on?
Yeah,
we're paying attention and we're getting worried
that there's like a lot of people
coming to protest
what was happening in Canada,
these mandates that everybody thought were ridiculous.
Or,
at the very least,
unfair.
and so we're tracking it
I went down to the like
arrival of everything
and I really stuck around
most days go back
back and forth I was just outside of all the way
but the craziest thing to me
and now even just you say trucker convoy
you say freedom convoy and people immediately
label like oh okay that's another
crazy far right anti-vactor
and if you're listening to the prime
industry your misogynist race
whatever it is.
It's just, to me, it's insane.
And I understand, again,
if you just watch the news,
the perspective is so skewed
because I was on the ground
watching.
And, like, I would look at the news
and it would be like, you know,
Nazi flags, white supremacists,
all these things.
And I'm all on the ground.
I'm a trained sniper.
So, like, all I did is look at shit
for 15 years.
I am scouring place
for, like, signs of racism,
Nazi flags, anything like that, nothing.
It was the friendliest environment I have ever seen
with that larger collection of people ever in my life.
That includes Canada today.
That includes concerts where you're all there to watch the same band that you like.
I could not believe how friendly it was.
The news made it seem like it was like insanity down there.
You go down and it was so friendly.
So I'm like looking at the news, looking at the ground.
and it's so much fear mongering and lying going on
and so much like just people dancing
there would be something that would happen to a homeless person in Ottawa
they're like oh it's the trucker convoy's fault the next day they're giving out food to
everyone like it was the nicest collection I've ever seen of that many people
like the environment was incredible but it just really showed like
the news is straight up lying or nitp people
picking things that are happening in a city,
like these one-offs,
and missing all of this.
I couldn't believe it.
And now even still,
if you say truck convoy,
freedom convoy,
it's like you'll be labeled a meeting with it.
It's some crazy right-wing extremist or whatever.
You got to move back,
you got to move back to Alberta.
I'm working on it.
You've got to come back to the land of the free.
Hopefully Daniel Smith has no issue
getting elected again.
And it'll be.
become where you can just move your feet to because, yeah, man, I got a lot of different stories
from Ottawa and the amount of hugs and people crying and high fives and feeding the homeless.
The first time I've ever done that.
But I can't remember any, you know, you're just like, let's go feed some homeless today, shall we?
Oh, really?
Oh, okay.
You know, I talked to, I've told this story a few different times, but it was day one.
of being there and I talked to a 20-year vet
of the Ottawa Police Force. He was standing out
in Parliament Hill anyways. Me and him sitting having
a chat and he was like, yeah.
Now this is, you know, you guys
will be gone in another, you know, Ottawa sees
protests all the time. This is no big deal, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like,
yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not so sure.
Yeah, and he goes, finally at the end of he goes,
you know, although in my 20 years on the force, I've been covering
a lot of things here and I've never seen protesters
clean up after themselves. And I knew the guys
doing that. They were going there at one in the morning.
and cleaning everything up.
Every day.
By day, like, four or five,
they didn't have to clean up anymore.
Because everybody was cleaned up during the day
because everybody understood the microscope
on which everyone was being watched was insane.
And there was that many people and people cleaning
and going all these, like, going an extra month.
And it was cold as fuck.
Like, how Canadian is that?
Well, I, you know, I've joked that the new candidate
shouldn't be July 1st.
It should be, you know, take your pick between January 1.
Between, one, 20.
What's more Canadian than standing around a bonfire,
dressed in a scadoo suit, and drinking beer?
I don't think anything.
And I think we'd all be like, you know what?
I could get behind that and away you go.
Yeah, let's do it.
Or at least make sure we celebrate it every year.
True, true.
So we're then, you know, rewind the clock here.
I keep bouncing you all over the place, Ottawa.
Was Ottawa, did Ottawa understand what was coming?
Like, were you sitting there going like, oh man, this, honey, better get the camera.
This is going to be interesting.
Or was everybody kind of like, oh, yeah, there's some protest coming again?
I can't speak for everyone in Ottawa.
I know that myself, my family and friend group, I think we started to get an appreciation for what was coming.
We're tracking to kind of come across Canada.
I think this is going to be big.
I think this is going to make a difference.
How about then the Sean Ryan podcast?
I'm going to bring it back up again.
You talk about, you know, and we haven't actually even brought it up yet,
but, you know, you talk about being in the military,
you talk about all these different things.
I don't even know the word.
Like, you know, you go on anything.
And you know, you never know what's going to light the match.
It's going to explode everything.
And you're like, holy shit.
What did it happen?
But I mean, like, you know, I've listened to it.
I don't, I don't know.
I, I'm a civilian.
So, you know, pardon me because I don't know all the intricacies.
And certainly if you had a military guy on, they could probably like, well, this is where you went wrong and everything else.
But in saying all that, I've listened to it.
I went, yeah, I don't know.
Like your story is, is exceptionally interesting because of the placement you held.
Certainly being a part of the world record is an interesting touch, right?
I just mean it's no different than Dan Bulford.
Dan Bulford being part of the group that protected the prime minister, right?
When he came out and then that exploded.
I don't know if you've ever met Dan.
I was connected on social media.
Dan's beauty.
And he just moved back to Albert.
know like you guys are just high profile for your you know your career yeah and saying all that
when you wake up the next morning and Sean Ryan's got a cease and desist and the world is on fire
what are you thinking what's going on well I was actually in Montana and that happened because I was
I went and did cleared hot podcasts with Andy Stump shortly after but I
So I didn't expect the response, one of the Canadian courses.
I didn't expect it to be in so many different news articles either,
but I knew there would be some type of response that they wouldn't be happy,
or a response showing that they're not happy.
I don't know. I didn't, I knew something could come out of it.
I didn't know what.
I didn't know that it would be like that.
But I also didn't really care.
I cared about prior going in and representing the guys that still work there or have in the right way.
And I have had a shitload of messages from guys in support of part one and part two of that podcast,
saying that I represented them in the unit very well, and they're super proud of it.
So that means the world with me.
And the rest is just white noise.
Yeah, I can't please everyone.
I just, I just, I knew those things I was going to talk about because I do want to be able to share inspiring stories from like the career that I've been lucky enough to have because it was inspiration and other stories and things in that realm that got me to join in the first place.
So I knew I wanted to share that.
And then I knew I wanted to tell the truth about how my career ended.
And I know that the people, a lot of people felt very lonely in the last couple of years with their opinions.
I don't want to know that they're not.
They were not alone.
And that was part of why I wanted to make sure that that was told.
You know, for me at least, and maybe I'm a little bit, I don't know.
I don't even know, worn to the, you know, the loan part, because we've been talking about it for so long.
Like, I mean, we're damn year after the Freedom Convoy at this point, right?
Like, everything's, you know, in saying that, I totally get it, totally get it.
I'm curious, you know, when it comes to our military in particular, because, you know, I've started, we just did the first one.
And I've had multiple military guys on.
So it's a military roundtable, if you will.
you know, led by a civilian and they just let the boys talk and just see where it goes.
And there's been some crazy, uh, stories about Canadian military and the Princess Patricia's and
and just like all these different things. And I'm like, I had no idea about this. You know,
it's, it's, it's kind of crazy how little we talk. And I know I mentioned this off the hop,
but I'm like, you know, our military guys need a voice. Like we really need to give them an opportunity
to tell some stories.
And we got some badasses.
Isn't that the truth?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Now I'm curious.
Who's a badass in Dallas's mind from the Canadian military?
Oh, man.
Just like most of my experiences from the unit I was in,
but I can just keep going and going.
Unfortunately, I can't say any of their names right now.
But, like, just so many guys.
They're still getting after it, even in the midst of all of this.
They're trying to just make it happen kind of thing.
And the stories that are not out there, the operations and the experience that have not been talked about outside of, like, a table of just guys from that workplace, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
I wish that more could be told or that even the government would take them more.
just an approach to try and get some of it
even through the lens that they want to
angle things in terms of Opsack
so it might be a little bit washed down
but any of those stories getting out
would be so phenomenal for the Canadian Armed Forces
people of Canada
and just building that kind of patriotic feeling towards
forces because there's
I'm telling me there's so many
godasses
I'm going to send you Jamie Sinclair and Chuck Prodnick, two guys I had on together.
And you don't have to listen to the entire thing, but they tell different stories about World War II and some badass chick who was a sniper.
And they just go on and on and on.
I'm like, where are all these stories?
Yeah.
What is this, right?
This is unreal.
And you think it's all, you know, once again, I always, you know, one of the difficult things.
as Canadians is we're, you know, so closely aligned with the states, right?
All the talent goes to the states.
It's not even, look at your career.
And, you know, we should talk a little bit about country music before I let you off.
Because, I mean, obviously, that's what you're trying to do.
I've been listening to a little bit of it.
I like the twang.
I like what you're doing.
But, you know, you know this as well as anyone.
If you're going to make it big or, you know, if you are one of the talented Canadians,
you don't stick around Canada.
You go down to the giant cities of the United States.
I mean, their population speaks for itself.
You know, you got for the country music, you got Nashville, for movies, television,
you got Hollywood, you know, the list goes on and on and on.
And so so much of our talent flocks to the United States.
And yet, you know, then we sit here in Canada and we don't even know half of our damn stories
because the Canadian content laws and all this different things.
because, you know, Dallas Alexander makes it giant, you know, and all of a sudden has, you know,
is recording out of Nashville and a bunch of different things.
I'm curious, you know, how that'll play out on radio stations, everything else.
You know, we can't get into all that jazz, but it's just, it's strange here, you know.
It's supposed to keep Canadian content on our shelves.
Instead, it really impacts where the Canadian content goes because, as we both know, you know,
you already mentioned Nashville.
So let's talk about, let's talk about country music here before I let you out of here.
Music.
Where, you know, is this something you, you know, as you're sitting beside the sniper rifle,
you just pull out the guitar and decide to just, you know, throw off a ballad to the boys?
Yeah, that's right.
You got it.
No, I've always loved music.
And where I grew up was really in the middle of nowhere.
And if we had one station, it might have been from Boyd Minister, actually, that we could get.
That was a country organization.
and just what my parents listened to
and finding my own way in school.
This music had always been such a big part of my life.
I just couldn't really play.
I ended up getting a guitar when I was,
I think I was 18 or 19,
learning just enough chords
to be able to play a couple songs at the campfire,
and that's all I wanted to do
is when there was a campfire and people were singing,
I could play a couple.
And it kind of,
didn't really for so from 18 until I really started giving her in music like three four years ago
it was nothing more than I could play a couple of campfire songs I started writing and really
diving into it after like I had a loss in my life so my brother passed away at 39 which was now
about four years ago and he used to record songs in his like he had a basement studio we talked about
like maybe writing or recording a song
someday and I just never
play, I never practice enough and
didn't write so we never got to do it.
When he passed away
it's like, the fuck did I wait so long
for? And then it was just like
one, I found it extremely
therapeutic to write songs.
Just
whether I played them for somebody or not
the process of writing and getting it
out, I found very valuable
for me going through that
that hard time.
and I
it just kind of
ignited a fire
that I was like
okay I need to learn
practice and play
because this is what I want to do
next kind of thing
in my life
mask
did like
was it a sudden death
like was it like
no so he was scrapping with cancer
for a little while
and it was like going good
going bad
going good going bad
and it was lost
yeah that's
well
my condolences
even though it's four years past
I got three older brothers and older sister and knock on wood.
We've been very fortunate, but the loss of a sibling, I would assume is not, well, I know.
I can't imagine.
There is something, you know, there is something about the writing process, though, getting thoughts out of one's head and putting it to paper that is very therapeutic would be the right word, gratifying.
Has it been hard to transition that into getting.
it to fit a lyric and a song to spit out on stage?
Yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes you write a song and it's absolute garbage.
It might be therapeutic, but you throw it away.
It's like learning anything I find.
It's like you're talking about going down to Nashville,
so I've been down to write songs there,
and I'm going to go back soon or kind of write for a studio album right now,
but it's something that it really takes practice,
and it takes, you're just kind of always learning,
and evolving and you know I'm on vacation here but I plan to write songs every day still
and I'm thinking about it all the time but like again it's like that one's good that one's garbage
that one's good that one's good but like going down to Nashville and there's there's great musicians
in Canada but the concentration of talent in country music and songwriting is like nowhere else in
the world like it is in Nashville so just like when I was in the military,
and kind of anything I do.
If I could be surrounded by people that are way better than me at that particular thing,
it just forces you to get better and better.
You're out of your comfort zone.
And like, the first co-write I sat in, I was like, holy shit,
these guys are professional songwriters.
I'm sitting here writing a song with them and trying to throw ideas in.
And I'm still learning the guitar.
So I'm not like, I can't shred like some other people.
And it's like, it's uncomfortable.
But at the end, just like, wow, you learn so much.
So I just want to keep doing that and keep doing that.
But yeah, back to your question.
Sometimes they're junk.
And sometimes they're okay.
Well, you know, a little pump me up for you is while you're sitting in that meeting,
they're probably staring at you going, this guy has got a career that very few have.
You've got a hairstyle that I'm just like, how the hell does your hair go like that?
Like what is this guy?
Putting gel in it two in the morning?
I don't get it.
You know, it's hilarious.
And I'll tell you, you know what I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I'll tell you.
what I do with my hair.
I haven't told anyone because it's crazy and my wife thinks it's hilarious.
But back to like the natural thing, products, all this stuff.
So I wash my hair once a week and I wash it with two egg yolks.
I swear to God.
Other than that, it ends up like this.
No one has ever gotten that out of me.
And it's funny, I get messages on Instagram.
Oh my God, what kind of hair products?
What do you use?
Two egg yolks.
I don't even want to say it.
Do you, do you just like, do you know, like are you scrambling them up?
Do you use the whisk and then throw it in or you just crack them on your head and away
to go?
Crack them, egg yolks and the hair.
What the heck?
Where did you find that?
Rins it up.
It was actually, it was a while ago.
There was, so like my fiance's big into product ingredients.
So like she'll like take shampoo and we're like, oh, this has this in it.
We're not getting it.
This has this.
Okay.
And I saw it come up somewhere online or something talking about, it was like, God, what was it?
Oh, it's an Instagram page I follow.
Its name is, I'm not going to get it right.
But it's like a primal kind of page or whatever.
They're talking about how good egg yolks are just like for your hair.
And some people do it as like a hair mask or whatever.
Well, that seems really fucking simple.
And I like simple.
Like if I just could do it.
But I tried it, and it was like, best my hair has ever been.
And I can't believe that we just talked about hair for like two minutes.
I kind of can.
This is where we go on a podcast.
All I want to know is, does your hair stink then?
No, or it doesn't seem to.
And Sarah would tell me, trust me, if it did.
You have to rinse it well.
Like, you don't leave.
It's not, like, if your hairstyle is just slick back,
I wouldn't recommend slicking me back with a joke.
But if you can massage it in your scalp, let it sit, and then rinse it all out.
Dallas two yoke, Alexander.
Yes, this has been an interesting little go here.
You know, as, as, I got you to the top of the hour, I assume.
So about 13 minutes, roughly?
Okay.
I got to, we should bring you back.
You know, I apologize, folks.
This is Sean on vacation.
Sean has had, I got, the day we're supposed to record by the grace of God or whatever,
you're like, we can't do this damn traveling.
And I got food poisoning just like,
wrapped around the toilet all day.
So I wasn't doing anything anyways.
You know, it's funny how those things work out.
So then, you know, I got three young kids and the wife and the family is all anyways,
and they're off doing things.
And my brain is like completely scrambled, you know?
And so I'm laughing at myself today because normally I'm like, but today I'm all over the place.
Can we talk about, can we talk about, um, uh, I don't know how to pronounce it.
Is it, Mosul, Mozal, Iraq, 2017.
like 3.54 kilometers
while you guys are sitting in this hotel room
right and you're and you're staring at whatever you're staring at
for however many days you're staring at it
does anybody think that's even remotely fucking possible
or yeah
because like what was the record before that it was like 2.7 kilometers
wasn't it? It was around 2,400 I think
so what if you were going to stand back
and not even just whitewash that day for a second.
If you're going to be in a room,
what do you think the maximum you could do this?
Like what would be the ultimate record
with the military hardware you have right now and a gun?
How far do you think somebody could do it?
I mean, three and a half is pretty fucking close.
But like probably, I think in the industry,
there's people starting to hit targets around 4K.
4K.
Yeah.
now
now to have that
translate to a battlefield I don't know if that will happen
or when it will
but for us
and it's funny knowing like
do you think it's possible
we train down in Texas
at a place called Accuracy First
before going over and we do this
a lot this the guy who runs the program
down there taught is
unbelievable
a huge part
a huge part of why we even
why we could
shoot that far.
Anyway, we were down there training before going
overseas, and I told
my sergeant major who was there with us, we're shooting,
shooting, we're getting further and further, and I looked
at him and I was like, I promise
on this tour we're going to break the world record.
He laughed at me,
but we did it.
And he's like, I cannot believe
that you said that at Texas, and then
you guys did it. But it was just because
I'd been there. I've been to
Iraq, and it's kind of seen
the battlefield and then I saw what we were doing and what we were not capable of
down in Texas. It's like, feeling like this is the one.
You got to, I'll use the term again, a civilian, you got to like, I think of,
geez, and I can't think of the movie right now. The one in Russia where the two
snipers are going at each other. Oh, yeah. I can't think of that.
Enemy in the gates. Thank you. I think of that. I think of like a, a
dude running around with a sniper rifle,
getting perched, shooting a couple,
and then rolling around and running.
Like this is,
and once again,
I don't know how much you can divulge,
I don't know any of that.
I just, to a civilian,
I'm like,
there's a team.
Do you want to get a season?
Is this last?
At this point, folks,
I mean,
we've been,
you know,
yeah,
I'm on somebody's radar anyway,
so what's the big deal?
To me,
I just,
I look at it and I'm like,
okay,
how many people go with a sniper now?
And then what is the roles you're all, like, are you all checking, like, and they're just licking your finger and checking the wind speed?
Like, to get 3.5, 4 kilometers, like, you've got to be taking a ton of factors in a account.
And I don't even know.
I don't even know where to begin.
Yeah.
So there's a bunch of different roles you do or have, I guess, responsibilities you have as a sniper.
And most of it is just watching.
Most of it is, like, 95%.
was just observing and reporting or building kind of an intelligence package.
And so in Mosul, for example, we were there for 50, there was like 52 or 54 days total in that hotel.
We'd go in for a week or so and go back in.
But in total, we were there just watching for like 50-some days.
And the actual sniper engagement, so the one that was 3.5K and then the fight kind of came a little bit closer to us.
so the ranges got a little bit less.
That was only five or six days out of all of that,
and that was right at the end.
So like a majority of that time was observation
and kind of reporting hours and hours all day, all night.
And we ran the four-man sniper team,
and then we also had part of a squadron with us
to kind of, because we're watching, like I said,
all day and all night,
and we'd be watching different points in the hotel
different angles and arcs and almost all of it was watching and then when it came time to we
are supporting an Iraqi push so they were trying to push ISIS out of Mosul and we were perpendicular
to it and it just so happened to be three and a half kilometers away and then got a little bit closer
to us so like it's it was a big team of guys watching and everything and then the shooting started
there's just four of us.
I was, like, for that particular shot, I was one of the spotters.
There's another spotter and two shooters.
And we actually took a simultaneous shot,
not even really on purpose.
Because the bullet at that range is a 10-second flight time,
or just under 10 seconds.
There was a fighter coming out of, like, a second-story window,
and lowered his equipment, lowered his AK.
And at that point, I knew where he was coming down,
so I got my shooter.
on target.
I gave him his elevation
and wind call.
He sent it.
He shot and then
simultaneously said that the team beside us
maybe eight feet away
did the same thing.
So two rounds went down.
One of them hit the guy
and killed him.
One of them missed by,
it was probably about a quarter
to half a nil.
We don't know
which shooter it was.
We know that our team got them.
But it's crazy.
Okay.
Two spotters, two shooters, yes?
Yeah.
Are you always the spotter?
No.
No, so for that, well, all the time, we rotate.
Everyone's trained to do both.
So like after that day, we would switch in the next day or even an hour later,
depending on how much rounds you're shooting, because this is a big, this is a 50 cow.
If you've ever shot that gun, it kicks like a motherfucker.
Never shot that gun.
But you're making me want to try.
Oh, man, I don't want to shoot it anymore.
but if he shoot enough rounds of it,
you're like, okay, time to switch.
So we were just switching back to forth
for that whole week.
But for that shot, I was spotting.
Probably last dumb question on this subject,
but I'm curious.
As a spotter or the shooter?
And I know we're talking something grave here, folks,
about killing a human being on the other end, okay?
But the excitement level in the video
that everybody's excited that you just
I don't know, hits a target that far away.
Does it matter if you're the spotter or the shooter,
or this is a team thing,
no matter who's pulling the trigger?
Yeah, it's very much a team.
I look at it as a team thing.
I think every sniper does.
Everyone has their own opinion.
But if you work in sniping,
whether you shot for you or the spotter,
you know how much goes into
the training together,
you slip together.
The spotter has to make an elevation,
and win call.
It has to give the information.
The shooter has to be stable.
He has to keep all the principles down.
He has control his breathing.
Like, it's really, it's a team game.
But it's good if you're a spotter and you have a fucking world-class shooter on the gun, that's for sure.
I can say that with confidence.
Well, before I appreciate you giving me some time today, Dallas.
And, you know, on holidays, nonetheless, and I'm sitting here on holidays myself.
So this is why I'm not going to beg you for another half an hour.
This is why we're not going to go for two hours because we're both sitting somewhere.
And I go knowing that you're Canadian and that you're an Alberta boy.
And at some point in time, you were going to cross my neck of the woods.
I'm just going to hold you to when you're in Alberta.
We're going to meet up and do an additional one in person because I think that'd be, as we both know,
you've been doing them in person.
It's way better in person than no matter if you got the sun on your face or not.
it's always better in person than through the screen.
Before I let you know, one final question, it's the crude master final question.
It's if you're going to stand behind a cause, then stand behind it absolutely.
What's one cause?
Dallas stands behind.
Freedom.
Nice and simple.
I want people to be able to choose how they live their lives,
the provider doesn't harm anybody else.
And I think it's super important.
And I think people are getting conditioned.
to give up a little bit at a time,
freedoms as a trade for security.
I don't think it's a good deal
because for the most part,
you just don't have to live afraid.
So don't give up your freedoms for it.
And I just really believe that you need to hold ground
instead of giving that freedom.
for people wanting to find your music
I assume it's very simple
but you know
that being where your career
where your intentions are heading
give them where they can find you
all that good stuff so they can search it out
I can toss a link in the show notes as well
so people want to support you they can
on Spotify and Apple music
Amazon YouTube that stuff is Dallas Alexander
Instagram is I am Dallas Alexander
Facebook's Dallas, Alexander music.
Oh, Dallas, Alleghenant.
I've got a website that is Dallas,
alexandana.com.
You can have a chuckle if you go to dot com.
I don't own that one, fortunately.
But dot CA.
I'm Canadian anyway.
So, yeah, that's where you can find you,
and if you enjoy the music, I appreciate it.
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much for giving me some time today.
Nice to meet you,
and I hope the next time is in person.
We get to shake hands, all that good stuff.
Let's do it in person.
Thank you.
